Roderick on the Line

Ep. 138: "MSG Denier"


00:00:00   this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

00:00:01   sponsored by cards against humanity this [TS]

00:00:04   month they asked Molly Lewis to help me [TS]

00:00:06   say hi John [TS]

00:00:08   hello [TS]

00:00:16   I John time rollin how are you oh I'm [TS]

00:00:22   fun [TS]

00:00:23   yeah i'm full of sushi full of sushi you [TS]

00:00:26   are you went up for a big lunch a bit [TS]

00:00:29   blown shoot for her [TS]

00:00:30   it's a little bit you know it's a little [TS]

00:00:31   rainy misty in Seattle and I i I've been [TS]

00:00:34   trying to walk a little bit more used to [TS]

00:00:37   be used to be a somebody walked all over [TS]

00:00:39   your famous for walking i was bout mr. [TS]

00:00:42   walk everywhere guy that used to call me [TS]

00:00:43   hard to fit on a shirt right and and now [TS]

00:00:47   i don't and i feel i feel like it's [TS]

00:00:49   having a profound effect on my life to [TS]

00:00:51   go this many years without walking [TS]

00:00:54   everywhere so I'm trying to walk [TS]

00:00:56   everywhere again and it's interesting [TS]

00:00:57   how many encounters i have with other [TS]

00:01:00   human beings walking around you telling [TS]

00:01:02   me that when you leave an area where [TS]

00:01:03   you're seated and not walking you will [TS]

00:01:05   not only see you will experience and you [TS]

00:01:09   and often interact with other people [TS]

00:01:10   that's absolutely right i am interacting [TS]

00:01:13   with people and they're they're saying [TS]

00:01:15   this to me and I'm saying things back to [TS]

00:01:17   them and people are because i live in [TS]

00:01:20   the city people shaking their cups full [TS]

00:01:22   of pennies at me and i'm having [TS]

00:01:24   encounters with them down in my I'm you [TS]

00:01:27   know I'm tipping match people bumping [TS]

00:01:29   into people in the street I'm gonna see [TS]

00:01:31   old friends [TS]

00:01:33   it's a it's it's a really great i bumped [TS]

00:01:35   into a guy the other night he was coming [TS]

00:01:38   out coming out of target and I I caught [TS]

00:01:40   a glimpse in his bag and I started [TS]

00:01:41   commenting on the things that he bought [TS]

00:01:43   in the middle of the night and that said [TS]

00:01:45   that's not a thing you're going to get [TS]

00:01:46   when you're sitting at home just [TS]

00:01:47   commenting on people's facebook page [TS]

00:01:49   that's something you definitely not [TS]

00:01:51   lonely right unless the guy huh [TS]

00:01:53   that's the guy hey you got exotic dancer [TS]

00:01:55   was looking stuff if he takes a picture [TS]

00:01:57   of what's in his target bag and puts it [TS]

00:01:59   on his facebook page then yeah sure your [TS]

00:02:01   comment on a pending about daily daily [TS]

00:02:02   carry i was doing that right in the room [TS]

00:02:05   i would write in the world I was like I [TS]

00:02:06   wasn't in a room that's the crazy thing [TS]

00:02:08   when it was like out on the streets like [TS]

00:02:09   real life [TS]

00:02:10   comments are enabled that's right i was [TS]

00:02:12   like hey looks like you gotta you gotta [TS]

00:02:14   like a fiber one bar there you got some [TS]

00:02:16   some toothpaste from your shopping for [TS]

00:02:19   these things that at one o'clock in the [TS]

00:02:20   morning he was like well I was downtown [TS]

00:02:22   it was open it was great it was amazing [TS]

00:02:24   just like the old days [TS]

00:02:27   oh god you remember the old days but you [TS]

00:02:29   know what you know what there wasn't a [TS]

00:02:30   target downtown in the old days [TS]

00:02:31   no sir no nope so something you gotta [TS]

00:02:34   take the good with the bad you can't [TS]

00:02:35   throw the the baby out with the [TS]

00:02:37   bathwater [TS]

00:02:37   no sir i love target do i do i do i like [TS]

00:02:41   target I mean the mall is hard on me i'm [TS]

00:02:44   not good with the mall but I i enjoy [TS]

00:02:46   target and there's a target in this big [TS]

00:02:50   downtown supercenter where my daughter [TS]

00:02:51   and I go to the movies a lot so going on [TS]

00:02:53   mr. big supercenter called the metreon [TS]

00:02:55   and that's kind of part of our journey [TS]

00:02:57   is that we always stop by target that [TS]

00:02:59   whoshere you get their food they have [TS]

00:03:01   Christmas supplies that chocolate bars [TS]

00:03:04   super get shirts spatula there a spatula [TS]

00:03:08   you can [TS]

00:03:09   yeah and we have a bar candy for the [TS]

00:03:11   movies they don't tell anybody [TS]

00:03:12   here's the oh that's a little bit of a [TS]

00:03:14   life hack that's a huge lifehack here's [TS]

00:03:16   my problem with target though all the [TS]

00:03:18   little boy clothes pretty cute and cool [TS]

00:03:21   motorcycles who crossbones minecraft [TS]

00:03:25   then you go over to the little girl [TS]

00:03:27   clothes and it's there just that's just [TS]

00:03:30   waitress outfits from the pantyhose [TS]

00:03:33   junction very very under verse there are [TS]

00:03:37   not many options there's a lot of like [TS]

00:03:39   you know it is i think it's a place to [TS]

00:03:41   go and shop for a nice you don't really [TS]

00:03:43   like I see [TS]

00:03:45   yes I buy my daughter a lot of boys [TS]

00:03:47   clothes their they got cool superhero [TS]

00:03:48   shirts and stuff but like all she likes [TS]

00:03:51   there's not that much that she finds [TS]

00:03:52   attractive there they have more like [TS]

00:03:53   dress-up princess close to an actual [TS]

00:03:55   little girl clothes [TS]

00:03:56   yeah right dress up princess close [TS]

00:03:57   that's exactly what I'm talking about [TS]

00:03:59   I think that we've got we've reached we [TS]

00:04:02   reached peak princess in this culture [TS]

00:04:05   uh-huh and I am ready to follow all the [TS]

00:04:08   princess that could be easily gotten out [TS]

00:04:09   of the ground we've reached that point [TS]

00:04:11   more than fifty percent if the customer [TS]

00:04:13   says from now on it's only going to be [TS]

00:04:15   like in shale readied princess fracking [TS]

00:04:17   that's right and I feel like you can you [TS]

00:04:19   take any more princess out of the ground [TS]

00:04:21   and we're gonna start having cavin so [TS]

00:04:22   we're gonna start getting sinkholes [TS]

00:04:24   president colts you know and thatthat's [TS]

00:04:27   damaging to the whole economy because [TS]

00:04:29   people lose faith they lose faith and [TS]

00:04:30   solid assault solidity of the ground [TS]

00:04:32   yeah you know if you don't have that [TS]

00:04:34   there's no point are you saying you [TS]

00:04:35   think you think it's as popular as it's [TS]

00:04:37   gonna get you think we have truly like [TS]

00:04:39   we're not going to see it bigger [TS]

00:04:41   this is what I don't know I don't know [TS]

00:04:43   because i cannot like I I've talked [TS]

00:04:47   about this on the program before I have [TS]

00:04:49   a little girl she likes pink princess [TS]

00:04:51   crap and i understand that disney has [TS]

00:04:54   figured it out they have figured out [TS]

00:04:57   just the right the right amount to [TS]

00:05:01   inflate the eyeball so that it looks [TS]

00:05:05   somewhere between a baby doll and a grey [TS]

00:05:09   / right like the eyeball is too big if [TS]

00:05:13   real human being said I balls that big [TS]

00:05:15   they would be horrifying but on these [TS]

00:05:18   little princess very vulnerable it have [TS]

00:05:20   their face with the eyeballs [TS]

00:05:21   yeah right that's exactly right you may [TS]

00:05:23   not want to go into battle that we don't [TS]

00:05:25   have they don't have the kind of brow [TS]

00:05:26   structure that would protect them from [TS]

00:05:28   like a playground ball or something [TS]

00:05:29   right for loads like alia caviar just a [TS]

00:05:32   raindrop that's right the surface [TS]

00:05:34   tension alone on those eyeballs is [TS]

00:05:35   unsustainable but so i appreciate like [TS]

00:05:40   why it's happening like there's no part [TS]

00:05:42   of me that feels like that it's part of [TS]

00:05:44   a grander conspiracy i think it's one of [TS]

00:05:46   those small level conspiracies where [TS]

00:05:48   people are making money off of it and [TS]

00:05:50   they're they're tapping this this [TS]

00:05:52   pent-up desire which is just which is [TS]

00:05:55   just crazy [TS]

00:05:56   this desire for a pink poofy frilly [TS]

00:05:58   stuff which is which just seemed to be [TS]

00:06:01   in my daughter from the day she was born [TS]

00:06:04   and yet i don't think there's room for [TS]

00:06:07   any more princesses in the world like at [TS]

00:06:10   first of all groan i do not think that a [TS]

00:06:12   princess would make a very good driver [TS]

00:06:15   um she's not just she's not dressed for [TS]

00:06:18   it tell me why you think that what would [TS]

00:06:20   you like to be behind a princess on her [TS]

00:06:21   on highway huh [TS]

00:06:23   I mean she's a true princess first she [TS]

00:06:25   was wearing the shoes [TS]

00:06:27   well probably yeah yeah and she's not [TS]

00:06:29   she's definitely not thinking about [TS]

00:06:31   other drivers just thinking about her [TS]

00:06:34   Princess shit her high level like she's [TS]

00:06:36   got balls to have and slippers to lose [TS]

00:06:39   and pumpkins to get in and stuff i mean [TS]

00:06:42   i don't know what all that new [TS]

00:06:43   princesses are doing i think that i [TS]

00:06:45   think it's it's there's a tradition also [TS]

00:06:47   got a tiara [TS]

00:06:48   I think any time you wear any kind of a [TS]

00:06:49   tall hot in the car it's going to be [TS]

00:06:50   distracting so you don't so princesses [TS]

00:06:53   are going to be very good drivers there [TS]

00:06:55   probably wouldn't want to be behind a [TS]

00:06:56   princess in line at a store or in a [TS]

00:06:58   restaurant [TS]

00:06:59   yeah I wouldn't want to be I wouldn't [TS]

00:07:01   want to have a princess be my server [TS]

00:07:04   error or get on an airplane and there's [TS]

00:07:06   a princess there I wouldn't want to be [TS]

00:07:08   on an airplane with the principal stop [TS]

00:07:09   so what I'm saying is as we get more and [TS]

00:07:11   more princesses there are fewer and [TS]

00:07:14   fewer public spaces that I would want to [TS]

00:07:16   share with the princess and so we're all [TS]

00:07:20   these princesses gonna go my way yeah [TS]

00:07:23   yeah I guess you could I mean you know I [TS]

00:07:26   haven't met that many princesses one [TS]

00:07:28   thing that's interesting is a that seems [TS]

00:07:31   unsustainable but is interesting and [TS]

00:07:33   weird is that for so long like when well [TS]

00:07:36   when we were kids and even before that [TS]

00:07:38   the whole narrative of princesses was [TS]

00:07:40   about being rescued mind by a dude and [TS]

00:07:43   that's still like maybe a subtext but I [TS]

00:07:45   definitely nearly as prominent a story [TS]

00:07:47   as it used to be [TS]

00:07:48   it is a lot more about just wearing pink [TS]

00:07:50   and purple well and also like magic [TS]

00:07:53   right magic happens two princesses I [TS]

00:07:55   think magic happens two princesses me [TS]

00:07:57   yeah so there's magic you're not being [TS]

00:07:59   rescued anymore but even if you're an [TS]

00:08:00   empowered princess [TS]

00:08:02   it's not like princesses are laboring at [TS]

00:08:05   the wheel well that's the trouble still [TS]

00:08:07   skin [TS]

00:08:08   oh right well she shipped is laboring a [TS]

00:08:11   wheel of memory so she was she was right [TS]

00:08:13   but I mean what she been since I don't [TS]

00:08:16   remember the original here with letters [TS]

00:08:18   daughter or a cobbler's wife or [TS]

00:08:21   something and it's not a wife she wasn't [TS]

00:08:23   a wife she wants to see jump around and [TS]

00:08:25   in turn inside out [TS]

00:08:27   Rumplestiltskin yeah I don't you doesn't [TS]

00:08:30   do a little happy dance and then turn [TS]

00:08:32   inside out for no particular reason he [TS]

00:08:34   does have a damn so we split himself do [TS]

00:08:36   that's it right there ze splits is often [TS]

00:08:39   too gross i'm pretty sure me to look [TS]

00:08:41   this up run wire so there are two [TS]

00:08:44   Rumplestiltskin's are there too it's a [TS]

00:08:45   terrible terrible fairytale it's not [TS]

00:08:48   even like a good cautionary tale [TS]

00:08:50   it's got all of the worst habits of [TS]

00:08:52   fairy tales in one like it's really long [TS]

00:08:54   it takes a long time to tell really [TS]

00:08:55   fucking obvious story and then at the [TS]

00:08:57   end there's an unexpected twist that [TS]

00:08:59   makes no sense and as [TS]

00:09:00   nothing to do with the rest of the story [TS]

00:09:01   and he split himself in half again for [TS]

00:09:03   himself and I think that's right i don't [TS]

00:09:04   have to look that up and i like that [TS]

00:09:07   that's a little bit like a it's a little [TS]

00:09:09   bit of cut the baby into one of my [TS]

00:09:12   favorite joke Bernie songs got to be [TS]

00:09:14   yeah that guy's great you like that guy [TS]

00:09:16   Heinze get to within one point I did I [TS]

00:09:19   did I did a lot of touring with The [TS]

00:09:21   Apprentice brother instrument he did and [TS]

00:09:24   they would do a hell of a pops on my god [TS]

00:09:26   let me tell you the prettiest brother's [TS]

00:09:28   crew [TS]

00:09:29   oh they had a couple records there and I [TS]

00:09:31   guess the early two thousands that were [TS]

00:09:32   pretty great bulletproof pop songs in [TS]

00:09:37   the UH in the boy guitar singer vain [TS]

00:09:41   yeah and I can't remember any of them [TS]

00:09:43   here's a couple baby into those pretty [TS]

00:09:45   late before that they had that involved [TS]

00:09:47   in working girls don't think you have to [TS]

00:09:53   work in girls a little bit of a British [TS]

00:09:55   accent yep yep yep yep matter and I saw [TS]

00:09:58   them live and they were good there a [TS]

00:09:59   little bit [TS]

00:10:00   photo of what was it Jackie sexual what [TS]

00:10:03   we call it number number Jackie although [TS]

00:10:05   proper little lumbersexual yeah i think [TS]

00:10:07   i think that's one of the reasons that I [TS]

00:10:08   always account for a you know Joe pretty [TS]

00:10:11   should have been a lot more famous who I [TS]

00:10:13   accept it look like Bob via and so was [TS]

00:10:17   suddenly he did elvis costello honest at [TS]

00:10:18   first I remember seeing pictures of him [TS]

00:10:20   as enhancing Slenderman and then all the [TS]

00:10:22   sudden he didn't Elvis Costello and he [TS]

00:10:24   had a peculiar beard and gain some [TS]

00:10:25   weight [TS]

00:10:26   yeah and just sort of looked like he was [TS]

00:10:27   here too he was here to to put a new [TS]

00:10:29   porch on the on the back of the house [TS]

00:10:31   and then he gets up any singing these [TS]

00:10:34   beautiful pop songs but his philosophy [TS]

00:10:37   he had a whole philosophy of rock music [TS]

00:10:40   which was that rock music get that it [TS]

00:10:41   was a working-class it was working class [TS]

00:10:44   hero and he was making pop music for the [TS]

00:10:46   people and he was intended to get big [TS]

00:10:48   and famous he was just doing it in the [TS]

00:10:50   old style you know like he would do [TS]

00:10:53   these tours was just like schenectady [TS]

00:10:55   tipsy of awfully funny but funny words [TS]

00:11:00   wakey wakey wakey six towns in [TS]

00:11:03   Pennsylvania that like maybe you heard [TS]

00:11:06   of because the name was on the bottom of [TS]

00:11:07   an oil can like like not uptown you've [TS]

00:11:11   ever not a time you would ever think to [TS]

00:11:12   get like like allentown was the big town [TS]

00:11:15   next to the this little consolation of [TS]

00:11:18   towns where they did they made the they [TS]

00:11:21   made the little castle you go quicker [TS]

00:11:22   quicker quicker quicker to put on your [TS]

00:11:24   back with your state [TS]

00:11:26   yeah that's right so little towns like [TS]

00:11:27   that and i would say that you know I'd [TS]

00:11:29   be like why are we play like what about [TS]

00:11:32   what about like Philadelphia it was like [TS]

00:11:36   well sure we could play Philadelphia but [TS]

00:11:38   wouldn't you rather play when you were [TS]

00:11:41   rather play six shows in little towns [TS]

00:11:42   where the church is boarded up you know [TS]

00:11:45   when they start boarding up the church [TS]

00:11:47   in a town its kind of it that's the [TS]

00:11:49   that's the end of the season if you [TS]

00:11:52   reach peak town you know [TS]

00:11:54   yeah but this piece princess business [TS]

00:11:56   Merlin I'm serious significant John [TS]

00:11:59   excuse me Rumpelstiltskin in his rage [TS]

00:12:01   drove his right foot so far into the [TS]

00:12:03   ground that it sank in up to his waist [TS]

00:12:06   that's angry then in a passion he sees [TS]

00:12:08   the left foot with both hands to the [TS]

00:12:10   floor itself in sick outside you now [TS]

00:12:14   wait a minute that sounds like you I've [TS]

00:12:16   tried that exact move it can't be done [TS]

00:12:19   imagine putting in your foot up to the [TS]

00:12:21   waist and then like you know what at [TS]

00:12:23   that makes me so mad [TS]

00:12:25   go grab my other foot and just turn [TS]

00:12:28   myself right into a horrible what a [TS]

00:12:30   horrible way to end of story [TS]

00:12:32   yeah they just they ran out of ideas and [TS]

00:12:36   a Grimm brothers it's gotta be right [TS]

00:12:38   yeah the Grimm brothers huh yeah joe [TS]

00:12:41   prince was good [TS]

00:12:43   I'm sorry i I'm really sorry i'm so full [TS]

00:12:46   of msg i had about a pound of chow mein [TS]

00:12:49   and fried fish for lunch [TS]

00:12:52   am i under my understanding was that you [TS]

00:12:54   were in msg denier oh yeah I you know I [TS]

00:12:58   go back to fourth I've got the skeptics [TS]

00:13:00   bored sometimes but describe your [TS]

00:13:02   feelings right now [TS]

00:13:03   yeah and then tell me do you attribute [TS]

00:13:05   those feelings to msg or do not okay [TS]

00:13:08   right now I think my feeling has to do [TS]

00:13:09   with grease and wheat which is one of [TS]

00:13:11   the great one of the great cat stevens [TS]

00:13:13   records you can group that Joni Mitchell [TS]

00:13:15   I can never remember Teresa when you [TS]

00:13:18   that's what this whole country is [TS]

00:13:20   founded upon the Quakers brought the [TS]

00:13:22   wheat and then the the pilgrims brought [TS]

00:13:25   the grease almost at schoolhouse rock [TS]

00:13:27   III had a lot of that and then some [TS]

00:13:31   coffee and so like a conversation we've [TS]

00:13:33   had before [TS]

00:13:34   I'm kind of on the bubble a little bit [TS]

00:13:35   about the msg thing I think your dirt [TS]

00:13:38   your teeth talking to my teeth my teeth [TS]

00:13:40   chatter inside loose comes and I can I [TS]

00:13:42   can smell colors I don't know why some [TS]

00:13:45   people complaining they feel msg [TS]

00:13:48   strongly suddenly and in a way that that [TS]

00:13:51   they can only describe as I can msg [TS]

00:13:53   headache [TS]

00:13:54   more like I think those things too like [TS]

00:13:56   your sinuses sometimes people have like [TS]

00:13:58   an allergy kind of thing so I I don't [TS]

00:14:00   get that I feel like I have like I still [TS]

00:14:02   have food in my mouth sometimes they're [TS]

00:14:04   still taste thereafter there's no food [TS]

00:14:05   there [TS]

00:14:06   what do you is because i'm giving [TS]

00:14:07   believe you yet you have an msg sixth [TS]

00:14:10   sense you ever [TS]

00:14:12   when you were when you were younger guy [TS]

00:14:13   and everyone smile you have to wear a [TS]

00:14:15   tie and maybe you'd wear thi like to a [TS]

00:14:17   show or something and you'd sweat in my [TS]

00:14:20   shirt and then you and they get home at [TS]

00:14:22   night and you try to take the tie off [TS]

00:14:24   but because the time i got wet it kind [TS]

00:14:26   of just like it as you try to pull the [TS]

00:14:29   time off it just sort of titans on [TS]

00:14:30   itself [TS]

00:14:31   oh yeah i got like a prank where you're [TS]

00:14:33   swimming in somebody at times your pants [TS]

00:14:35   and not [TS]

00:14:36   hey yeah you're swimming in pants and [TS]

00:14:38   somebody time in that same thing [TS]

00:14:40   yeah so I didn't you try to get the time [TS]

00:14:42   off and you can get it on a little bit [TS]

00:14:44   but it's like the time and becomes a [TS]

00:14:46   news [TS]

00:14:46   so then you try and pull it over your [TS]

00:14:47   head and it gets like over your nose but [TS]

00:14:50   now i can't go past your nose so it's [TS]

00:14:52   like pulling your nose up and then you [TS]

00:14:55   like get it out you know and then when [TS]

00:14:56   you're in the tie the wet [TS]

00:14:59   ty is basically tied around its tight [TS]

00:15:02   it's like it's like it's like a binding [TS]

00:15:06   your nose to the front of your face [TS]

00:15:09   well that's my intent and have [TS]

00:15:11   interrogation and it almost is and then [TS]

00:15:13   you're wandering around here like now [TS]

00:15:14   now i might have to cut this tie off [TS]

00:15:16   like you don't like that is the feeling [TS]

00:15:19   of msg for me like it like there's a wet [TS]

00:15:21   ty that's around the front of my face [TS]

00:15:24   Wow and it's cutting off the blood to my [TS]

00:15:27   scalp so do you try to avoid it if you [TS]

00:15:29   can [TS]

00:15:30   what can you do i learned that i live in [TS]

00:15:32   the Pacific Rim and beyond people just [TS]

00:15:35   flatly lie about it [TS]

00:15:37   do you know you're welcome you're like [TS]

00:15:38   the mysterious food and the guy is these [TS]

00:15:40   bees using a yardstick to smooth the msg [TS]

00:15:44   off the top one of those four up if you [TS]

00:15:47   know one of those four right [TS]

00:15:49   measuring cups and he's like no msg what [TS]

00:15:51   are you talking about [TS]

00:15:52   and just in that is just poor oh just [TS]

00:15:55   pours that msg into everything they're [TS]

00:15:57   cooking because they don't believe that [TS]

00:15:59   we the the msg users do not believe that [TS]

00:16:02   we msg sufferers are our have real [TS]

00:16:06   problems so you're saying if i [TS]

00:16:07   understand it most msg users are on the [TS]

00:16:10   face of it [TS]

00:16:11   msg deniers i would say i would say you [TS]

00:16:15   can't be an msg user and an msg suffer [TS]

00:16:19   you have to be an msg tonight because it [TS]

00:16:22   seems like to get back to the fairy [TS]

00:16:23   tales little bit of Princess and the pea [TS]

00:16:24   like there's no [TS]

00:16:25   way since this doesn't actually do [TS]

00:16:27   anything there's no way anybody could [TS]

00:16:29   ever tell that I just before cups of [TS]

00:16:30   this into the food you provide exactly [TS]

00:16:32   but it's like it's like trying to talk [TS]

00:16:33   to somebody who has chronic fatigue [TS]

00:16:35   syndrome or chronic pain [TS]

00:16:37   yeah and you're saying you're talking to [TS]

00:16:38   them in their I i suffer from this [TS]

00:16:41   syndrome and it is impossible for you to [TS]

00:16:44   get inside them and know what they're [TS]

00:16:46   experiencing irritable bowel syndrome [TS]

00:16:49   mm which i think you know a thing or two [TS]

00:16:51   about I i thought i had that but I don't [TS]

00:16:53   have a different thing that's hard to [TS]

00:16:55   diagnose but I BS it's the harness [TS]

00:16:57   crankiness ok let's put myself into [TS]

00:17:02   oh no what the ids is the worst because [TS]

00:17:04   you say oh my gosh I'm i feel really [TS]

00:17:06   Crimea I don't know this is not what i [TS]

00:17:08   have but people go une you really feel [TS]

00:17:10   better what's wrong [TS]

00:17:11   oh my god i have i have diarrhea but [TS]

00:17:14   yesterday I had constipation and there's [TS]

00:17:17   no way to prove that i have it so you're [TS]

00:17:18   crazy person [TS]

00:17:19   it's one of those unknown etiology [TS]

00:17:20   unknown anything things [TS]

00:17:23   sure come to the bathroom with me for a [TS]

00:17:25   week and you will feel a lot of sympathy [TS]

00:17:27   for me but nobody wants to do that let [TS]

00:17:30   me have the showtime series i don't want [TS]

00:17:32   to watch [TS]

00:17:33   I had a lot of fatigue a couple years [TS]

00:17:35   ago not anything close to what i would I [TS]

00:17:38   imagine chronic fatigue syndrome seems [TS]

00:17:40   like but even a small amount of constant [TS]

00:17:43   fatigue and depression is a tremendous [TS]

00:17:45   burden now imagine having something that [TS]

00:17:47   you would even that you would even [TS]

00:17:49   bother to characterize as chronic [TS]

00:17:51   fatigue syndrome right like what it [TS]

00:17:53   sounds like a total nightmare and I [TS]

00:17:55   think the biggest night at the biggest [TS]

00:17:56   part of the nightmare for those people [TS]

00:17:58   is that everywhere they go people like [TS]

00:17:59   what you just lazy have a mountain dew [TS]

00:18:03   uh-huh and you're like no I seriously [TS]

00:18:05   like chronic fatigue syndrome that why [TS]

00:18:07   would I make that up [TS]

00:18:08   I mean you know it's not it's not a very [TS]

00:18:10   thing you want to announce like with [TS]

00:18:13   pride but it also things I wonder how [TS]

00:18:16   you do a differential diagnosis from [TS]

00:18:18   from like a million other things that's [TS]

00:18:21   what about the last thing a doctor was [TS]

00:18:22   to come up with because then that kind [TS]

00:18:23   of means they're out of ideas [TS]

00:18:25   yeah it was like depression right i mean [TS]

00:18:26   so they're going to be so many things [TS]

00:18:28   you have to rule out to get to that [TS]

00:18:30   yeah well it's like we've talked about [TS]

00:18:31   before the the fact that there is no way [TS]

00:18:33   to measure pain except what this like on [TS]

00:18:38   a scale one [TS]

00:18:39   254 have made her sad face to a happy [TS]

00:18:41   face [TS]

00:18:42   you know I've started doing that with my [TS]

00:18:44   daughter though I'm like because she'll [TS]

00:18:45   be like wow and I said what is the [TS]

00:18:48   matter she's like I want a candy cane am [TS]

00:18:51   I on a scale of one to five how big of [TS]

00:18:55   an issue is this for you emotionally and [TS]

00:18:58   invariably she said 01 like right [TS]

00:19:03   exactly so we take a minute to really [TS]

00:19:06   step away from it reflect for a minute [TS]

00:19:08   about that how big of a deal is this and [TS]

00:19:11   then the other day the other day she was [TS]

00:19:13   she was doing her new routine which is [TS]

00:19:15   like I like everybody except daddy [TS]

00:19:17   mm and I was like em on a scale of one [TS]

00:19:20   to five how much do you not like Daddy [TS]

00:19:22   she thought about it she was like three [TS]

00:19:25   and that was the top scorer of anything [TS]

00:19:29   she's ever she's never gotten to a three [TS]

00:19:31   on any scale patients had account and i [TS]

00:19:34   was like wow okay of three you know you [TS]

00:19:37   guys really don't like Daddy moving [TS]

00:19:39   getting there [TS]

00:19:40   I can handle that sixty percent not [TS]

00:19:42   liking daddy it's so nice my daughter [TS]

00:19:44   being able to right now it's so nice to [TS]

00:19:45   wake up in the morning and she'll come [TS]

00:19:47   in and feel like leaving envelope like [TS]

00:19:50   at night to leave an envelope so you can [TS]

00:19:51   open this until the morning till morning [TS]

00:19:54   yeah I said it's really sweet you know I [TS]

00:19:56   you for years I get a little messages [TS]

00:19:57   like a little heart drawing or something [TS]

00:19:59   I open one of the other day and it said [TS]

00:20:00   I in in in broken English you are going [TS]

00:20:03   to die haha oh thanks honey [TS]

00:20:08   thanks sweetie it's not a three climb [TS]

00:20:11   inside your stone [TS]

00:20:13   yeah feeling good about it i'm at my [TS]

00:20:16   office and I'm looking out at our people [TS]

00:20:19   and the you know it's kind of cloudy [TS]

00:20:21   windy day and I just feel very good [TS]

00:20:23   right now I don't have chronic for till [TS]

00:20:25   fatigue syndrome i had four have a belly [TS]

00:20:28   full of sushi syndrome [TS]

00:20:29   oh that's a nice afternoon it's much [TS]

00:20:31   better i was looking at is a site that [TS]

00:20:35   my daughter I referred to simply as our [TS]

00:20:36   favorite website which is just a tumblr [TS]

00:20:39   there's nothing but pictures of cute [TS]

00:20:40   animals people scraped off of read it so [TS]

00:20:42   i looked at that and I read most of a [TS]

00:20:44   very long article about outrage on the [TS]

00:20:45   internet from slate good [TS]

00:20:48   uh-huh is the is the witch one of those [TS]

00:20:50   two articles [TS]

00:20:51   is the one where you found the picture [TS]

00:20:53   of the rat eating the cookie i'm talking [TS]

00:20:55   about crime challenge the donuts yes [TS]

00:20:59   lady had a feature on a 2014 in outrage [TS]

00:21:02   and they went through each day of the [TS]

00:21:04   year and have all they have a whole [TS]

00:21:05   giant calendar to show you what people [TS]

00:21:07   were most outraged about on any given [TS]

00:21:10   day i think i would actually find that [TS]

00:21:11   pretty interesting and for you find a [TS]

00:21:13   very calming [TS]

00:21:14   yeah right I you know I I one of my good [TS]

00:21:17   friends on the on the Twitter made a [TS]

00:21:20   thing called the social justice kittens [TS]

00:21:23   calendar [TS]

00:21:24   oh yeah that's a liar town that's my [TS]

00:21:25   time that's right and I got last sounds [TS]

00:21:27   funny [TS]

00:21:28   he's very funny he sent me a copy of the [TS]

00:21:29   social justice kittens calendar so I've [TS]

00:21:32   been looking at that every every day and [TS]

00:21:34   just taking taking a little bit of peace [TS]

00:21:37   I think I think people I link to that on [TS]

00:21:39   the tumblr and a lot of people got mad [TS]

00:21:41   and I'm I i think it's a shame that they [TS]

00:21:44   don't didn't get why it's funny because [TS]

00:21:47   it's your money for like five different [TS]

00:21:48   reasons [TS]

00:21:49   you can if you can't find something to [TS]

00:21:51   laugh at when looking at that calendar [TS]

00:21:53   you just that there is an actual joke [TS]

00:21:55   there there's no one being harmed their [TS]

00:21:57   that is pictures of kittens saying [TS]

00:21:59   exactly the kind of asinine things that [TS]

00:22:02   people with internet access say about [TS]

00:22:04   how beleaguered they are and exhibits a [TS]

00:22:06   cat saying it's really fucking fun it is [TS]

00:22:09   funny it's funny but you know not being [TS]

00:22:12   able to get the joke is kind of the [TS]

00:22:14   character of the people that are being [TS]

00:22:15   mocked in the lobby that that is my new [TS]

00:22:19   theme song not [TS]

00:22:26   [Music] [TS]

00:22:27   love is wandering in Starflight his [TS]

00:22:30   words to that [TS]

00:22:31   no yeah really i think because beyond [TS]

00:22:35   the rim of the Starlight something like [TS]

00:22:37   that my love is always connect our [TS]

00:22:39   flight it's it's pretty bad [TS]

00:22:43   now you are pretty pretty pretty big [TS]

00:22:45   star trek fan as a kid right [TS]

00:22:48   ah well if you had said which are you a [TS]

00:22:52   bigger fan of Star Trek or the twilight [TS]

00:22:55   zone [TS]

00:22:55   I would have absolutely said the [TS]

00:22:57   twilight zone hmm um and this i'm [TS]

00:23:01   talking about at a time when there were [TS]

00:23:03   three channels on TV and then public [TS]

00:23:05   television and late at night on one of [TS]

00:23:09   the channels you sometimes would see [TS]

00:23:11   Star Trek reruns or twilight zone reruns [TS]

00:23:15   or both [TS]

00:23:16   that's interesting we would I feel like [TS]

00:23:18   we very consistently got star trek [TS]

00:23:20   solidly at five to six pm [TS]

00:23:23   oh and when I discovered right after [TS]

00:23:25   Gilligan's Island and when I discovered [TS]

00:23:28   twilight zone it was squarely at like 11 [TS]

00:23:31   on 11 a.m. [TS]

00:23:32   yeah and for whatever reason in seattle [TS]

00:23:35   we had gilligan's island of course and [TS]

00:23:39   then we had tokens heroes without any [TS]

00:23:42   funny and then we add then we had the [TS]

00:23:46   monsters and then we had leave it to [TS]

00:23:49   beaver alright and that was what went [TS]

00:23:52   into the afternoon between like two and [TS]

00:23:55   five star trek was I think for Western [TS]

00:24:01   Washington audience is considered more [TS]

00:24:02   sophisticated and it was later on at [TS]

00:24:04   night I remember 1030pm we had cross [TS]

00:24:08   wits never get across with the game show [TS]

00:24:11   with crossword puzzles in funny funny [TS]

00:24:13   celebrities no are you kidding me people [TS]

00:24:16   here we're at 1030pm they were busy [TS]

00:24:18   sharpening their whittling tools no time [TS]

00:24:22   for crossword puzzle based so I shows up [TS]

00:24:27   and sharpness you grew up in Leeds I [TS]

00:24:29   mean that doesn't even make any sense to [TS]

00:24:31   me now around ten o'clock we started [TS]

00:24:33   putting coal our faces for the next day [TS]

00:24:35   Gene Roddenberry at one point I forget [TS]

00:24:38   the reason why but he had someone was [TS]

00:24:40   called upon us to say what the lyrics to [TS]

00:24:41   the song where I will not sing them i [TS]

00:24:43   will read them into four lines via it's [TS]

00:24:47   beyond the rim of the Starlight my love [TS]

00:24:50   is wandering in Starflight I know he'll [TS]

00:24:53   find in Star clustered reaches love [TS]

00:24:56   Strangelove a star woman teaches wow it [TS]

00:25:02   kinda doesn't even match the song know [TS]

00:25:05   and it feels a little bit like you know [TS]

00:25:07   gene roddenberry's coming out of that [TS]

00:25:08   fifties and sixties science fiction [TS]

00:25:10   author all icons science fiction [TS]

00:25:13   yeah like Harlan Ellison land where [TS]

00:25:16   there where unreasonable [TS]

00:25:17   well and ultimately it's like they are [TS]

00:25:20   picturing the cover of heavy metal [TS]

00:25:22   magazine over an original sure you know [TS]

00:25:24   where Conan is standing there with a [TS]

00:25:26   sword and the and the and the girl in [TS]

00:25:28   the ripped bikini so I think I mean [TS]

00:25:32   there's a lot of that in Star Trek and I [TS]

00:25:34   think that song is is like the poetry [TS]

00:25:36   that maybe that maybe you would if you [TS]

00:25:40   were on a different planet [TS]

00:25:41   maybe it sounds better on it it [TS]

00:25:43   translated from its original language [TS]

00:25:45   Strangelove a star woman teaches you're [TS]

00:25:50   gonna go out past the star clusters and [TS]

00:25:52   what I say and i'm not going to raise [TS]

00:25:54   lanes woman a woman is going to teach [TS]

00:25:56   you strange love my love don't give me [TS]

00:26:00   prisons [TS]

00:26:01   oh I think that that's a big part of [TS]

00:26:05   that early science fiction is that a lot [TS]

00:26:07   of teenage boys were not getting earth [TS]

00:26:09   love and they were looking for a strange [TS]

00:26:12   love that Karen love they were getting [TS]

00:26:15   some of that that you know they wanted [TS]

00:26:16   some of the strange if you know time [TS]

00:26:18   soon [TS]

00:26:19   makeup coming from like mars mars women [TS]

00:26:22   can wear the green lady who glides the [TS]

00:26:25   green glider wasn't there green gliding [TS]

00:26:27   lady another green lady but there's a [TS]

00:26:29   lady like you didn't hear walk she just [TS]

00:26:31   kind of floated oh yeah oh yeah yeah i [TS]

00:26:33   just see i'm still super into that shit [TS]

00:26:35   fuck you me both [TS]

00:26:37   if I better green waited but just glided [TS]

00:26:38   forget it [TS]

00:26:40   org lid as we say if you just get from [TS]

00:26:42   place to place you got her star cluster [TS]

00:26:45   reaches soul the UM so I feel like Star [TS]

00:26:50   Trek there's a cup the street come and [TS]

00:26:57   hear he was a little bit older than I [TS]

00:26:58   was and his last name was Klingon oh [TS]

00:27:04   that's rough Klingon but he was he was [TS]

00:27:07   the oldest kid in the neighborhood so he [TS]

00:27:10   was actually really cool polish not [TS]

00:27:14   cleaning it might be anything like an [TS]

00:27:16   American ization of something from [TS]

00:27:17   Europe maybe a German person but who [TS]

00:27:20   lived in gdansk ok sorry I'm not gonna [TS]

00:27:23   dance cross that prog like a pasta the [TS]

00:27:27   the Germantown of that now we call [TS]

00:27:31   gdansk it's the the singer from that [TS]

00:27:34   band from the misfits [TS]

00:27:37   Oh God dancing Danzig right [TS]

00:27:40   Danzig is what we call gdansk now is [TS]

00:27:43   that right yeah used to be dancing it [TS]

00:27:45   was all germantown all Germans but in [TS]

00:27:49   what we think of now as Poland well the [TS]

00:27:52   pair of hands and I think maybe they had [TS]

00:27:56   names like calling all right there [TS]

00:27:57   that's a tough name to grow up with [TS]

00:27:59   except so he had one of those [TS]

00:28:02   oh this was the option of them i'm i'm [TS]

00:28:04   having like a six will reactivate I'm [TS]

00:28:06   different I'm tripping because he had [TS]

00:28:08   one of those giant models of the [TS]

00:28:12   starship enterprise and Israel like one [TS]

00:28:15   that you could take the top off and see [TS]

00:28:16   inside the the bridge and everything and [TS]

00:28:21   and his bedroom was kind of like oh so [TS]

00:28:24   my neighborhood was all one story houses [TS]

00:28:27   except the Clintons his name was Gary [TS]

00:28:30   Klien that's horrible it sounds like [TS]

00:28:32   he's mispronouncing Klingon yeah it does [TS]

00:28:36   and and even at the time now is removing [TS]

00:28:39   hehe their house was the only house in [TS]

00:28:45   the neighborhood and this is crazy to [TS]

00:28:46   say they were you know there were 200 [TS]

00:28:49   houses in my neighborhood [TS]

00:28:50   his was the only one with a second story [TS]

00:28:52   and his bedroom is on the second floor [TS]

00:28:55   so that was already pretty amazing even [TS]

00:28:57   without the stairs in this guy's house [TS]

00:28:58   it was just like wow stairs in a house [TS]

00:29:01   and then he had this starship enterprise [TS]

00:29:04   in his room and it was just like I'm I [TS]

00:29:06   mean I didn't go in his room a lot he [TS]

00:29:07   was older than I was this was like a [TS]

00:29:10   lucky treat when you could get to go in [TS]

00:29:12   to his room and see this spaceship [TS]

00:29:15   pretty hot stuff and then you know he [TS]

00:29:20   grew up and got a car and drive away and [TS]

00:29:21   I never saw him again but uh but Star [TS]

00:29:25   Trek I mean I can't say that Star Trek [TS]

00:29:26   was not very prominent on my on my [TS]

00:29:30   landscape particularly in the years [TS]

00:29:31   before Star Wars oh yeah right because [TS]

00:29:35   we were nine 9 ten years old Star Wars [TS]

00:29:37   came out right let's see i was ten yeah [TS]

00:29:39   yeah so I i would have been 9i guess and [TS]

00:29:42   you know from the age of four I was [TS]

00:29:45   pretty invested in startrack even just [TS]

00:29:50   not not watching the show but just like [TS]

00:29:52   the toys and there and how the animated [TS]

00:29:55   show on saturday mornings [TS]

00:29:56   mmhmm yeah r us are you sorry because [TS]

00:30:00   you're afraid of talking about Star Trek [TS]

00:30:03   no no no i'm not i'm thinking about it I [TS]

00:30:06   i never got into it and it's it's it's [TS]

00:30:09   one of those things that that you know [TS]

00:30:12   there are some things that I [TS]

00:30:13   accidentally came across one or two [TS]

00:30:15   times and its really fell in love with [TS]

00:30:16   and star trek really seem stiff to me [TS]

00:30:20   when I was a kid and you know I some of [TS]

00:30:23   my nerdy your friends really liked it [TS]

00:30:25   Star Wars everybody everybody I knew [TS]

00:30:27   like Star Wars and if they did my star [TS]

00:30:29   wars I didn't want to know that was that [TS]

00:30:32   was huge for me Star Wars was like on [TS]

00:30:34   you know it took over my life for two [TS]

00:30:35   years [TS]

00:30:36   did you have a friend that had the trash [TS]

00:30:38   compactor place that I [TS]

00:30:40   did I got it I got it for all your [TS]

00:30:42   kidding it was pretty was pretty crappy [TS]

00:30:44   well yeah it was gonna pantheon only in [TS]

00:30:47   the pantheon of Star Wars toys it is not [TS]

00:30:49   high up it was might have been crappy to [TS]

00:30:51   own but it was the only star wars toy [TS]

00:30:53   that I knew anybody but the tab was the [TS]

00:30:56   only one I ever had access to a very [TS]

00:30:59   limited and restricted access to it [TS]

00:31:01   because it was over at my friends house [TS]

00:31:03   and I could only play with it [TS]

00:31:05   occasionally and boy did I think it was [TS]

00:31:07   pretty impressive had a little garbage [TS]

00:31:09   compactor with the new therefore yeah [TS]

00:31:11   and the little monster when I was a very [TS]

00:31:14   but that was a a scene that really made [TS]

00:31:17   an impression of course [TS]

00:31:19   well I think if I could pick one and [TS]

00:31:21   still have today even with a really [TS]

00:31:23   cherry one even then was Hans blaster [TS]

00:31:25   that Becca will the light blaster the [TS]

00:31:28   batteries that was kind of heavy and [TS]

00:31:30   like you know felt really solid that was [TS]

00:31:32   awesome i had an x-wing fighter with [TS]

00:31:35   little are you push the r2d2 and make [TS]

00:31:37   some noise [TS]

00:31:38   yeah I think i mighta know the weight i [TS]

00:31:39   think of anyone care to d2 the wings go [TS]

00:31:41   out doesn't seem very plausible but that [TS]

00:31:44   was a great toy but just a the trash [TS]

00:31:46   compactor didn't have great build [TS]

00:31:48   quality [TS]

00:31:49   yeah yeah you're all the figures i had [TS]

00:31:51   them all you know what might you did i'm [TS]

00:31:54   sorry that you don't no idea i still [TS]

00:31:57   have my game my daughter wrestling [TS]

00:31:58   oh that's right and she chewed off the [TS]

00:32:00   lights and no doubt have they came off [TS]

00:32:02   and they can 78 told you that story [TS]

00:32:04   right yeah you did you have mailed off [TS]

00:32:06   to the the counter people and one day in [TS]

00:32:09   the mail for Star Wars characters [TS]

00:32:12   arrived incredible greatest and my life [TS]

00:32:13   almost as great as the day that I got [TS]

00:32:15   this kiss albums for free [TS]

00:32:16   incredible my daughter is John a lot of [TS]

00:32:19   memories my number-one playset was the [TS]

00:32:22   Guns of Navarone playset did you inherit [TS]

00:32:25   that from somebody help the Guns of [TS]

00:32:27   Navarone plates that was a mid seventies [TS]

00:32:30   a playset not based on the i think it [TS]

00:32:33   was based on the original Guns of [TS]

00:32:35   Navarone film but what what caused it to [TS]

00:32:40   be put into production was be4 Sten from [TS]

00:32:44   Navarone now sheriff it's gonna never [TS]

00:32:47   based on something else is it based on [TS]

00:32:49   what am I thinking of [TS]

00:32:51   also the the kind of thing that's best [TS]

00:32:53   seven samurai nevermind i don't think [TS]

00:32:56   this is based on something else [TS]

00:32:57   Guns of Navarone was like a strange a [TS]

00:33:00   retelling of like the battle for Crete [TS]

00:33:03   all right again yes yes yes I'm sorry of [TS]

00:33:06   course of course David Niven was in it [TS]

00:33:09   and you love David did i do love i love [TS]

00:33:12   David Niven is that whereas the bomb guy [TS]

00:33:14   oh he's the British bomb guy [TS]

00:33:17   more like Miller that's right he never [TS]

00:33:19   got he never got promoted [TS]

00:33:21   uh but he was very aristocratic but you [TS]

00:33:25   know he's a risk credit guy playing a [TS]

00:33:27   playing like a you know just a man of [TS]

00:33:30   the people but very upset and anthony [TS]

00:33:34   quinn is an air attack it looks like [TS]

00:33:36   Gregory pack is an amazing film and and [TS]

00:33:43   then so then force 10 from navarone [TS]

00:33:45   that's the was Robert Shaw at Harrison [TS]

00:33:49   for + barbara bach look at that right [TS]

00:33:51   that's right and so that movie came out [TS]

00:33:53   it had nothing to do with the tower with [TS]

00:33:56   the with the mountain forced to her guns [TS]

00:33:58   of navarone is about a mountain force 10 [TS]

00:34:01   from navarone is about a damn and [TS]

00:34:03   somehow force 10 from navarone came out [TS]

00:34:06   in the seventies but they but but hasbro [TS]

00:34:08   or whatever some toy company made the [TS]

00:34:11   Guns of Navarone playset because [TS]

00:34:15   presumably everything that they had [TS]

00:34:16   rights to every eight-year-old kid in [TS]

00:34:19   America the time had watched that movie [TS]

00:34:21   that was then 20 years old [TS]

00:34:22   black-and-white with their dad at night [TS]

00:34:24   on The Late movie you know it anywhere [TS]

00:34:28   get back in here that's right come on [TS]

00:34:30   come on you gotta want this late movie I [TS]

00:34:31   mean I said I saw the longest day 42 [TS]

00:34:33   times because my dad never never turned [TS]

00:34:36   off at the late movie and it was always [TS]

00:34:38   a war two movie and I mean that's how I [TS]

00:34:41   learned about the world just like here [TS]

00:34:44   we go for 10 from navarone so this was a [TS]

00:34:48   giant playset it had two cannons it had [TS]

00:34:52   an elevator it had like multiple tiers [TS]

00:34:57   and you could sit at a you could assault [TS]

00:35:02   this that's for [TS]

00:35:04   is this mountain fortress I mean I'm not [TS]

00:35:07   saying you could let one could assault [TS]

00:35:10   this mountain fortress with your little [TS]

00:35:11   green army men every day for a thousand [TS]

00:35:14   years and never get bored sounds I see [TS]

00:35:16   if I still had it i think i would still [TS]

00:35:19   play with this the forst forst are not [TS]

00:35:22   for I'm sorry [TS]

00:35:23   don't mess around guns of navarone [TS]

00:35:25   playset that's right [TS]

00:35:27   some of my favorite toys for ones that i [TS]

00:35:29   had reason I'm asking you is inherited [TS]

00:35:31   was some of my favorite I like toys that [TS]

00:35:35   actually held up and more fun for a long [TS]

00:35:37   time where the ways that i got from [TS]

00:35:39   other kids from like the 60 mm mm mm you [TS]

00:35:43   know like I like the Tarzan or like I'll [TS]

00:35:47   shoebox full of original batman cards [TS]

00:35:49   from 1966 like a remote control car [TS]

00:35:53   there's like 10 years old and still [TS]

00:35:54   worked [TS]

00:35:55   I can't even imagine that shit my [TS]

00:35:57   daughter gets today I can't even imagine [TS]

00:35:59   that stuff but even so would still work [TS]

00:36:00   after 10 years I the the toy that I [TS]

00:36:03   remember inheriting from an older cousin [TS]

00:36:05   was the james bond db5 aston martin a [TS]

00:36:10   little Corgi the corgi diecast wow those [TS]

00:36:13   were amazing my friends collected those [TS]

00:36:15   they were so cool and they had all the [TS]

00:36:19   like the license plate flipped the [TS]

00:36:21   passenger seat was an ejector seat there [TS]

00:36:24   was a little uh resettling detailed a [TS]

00:36:27   metal shield that sprung up that was [TS]

00:36:29   bulletproof in the back window think the [TS]

00:36:31   headlights were guns like all these [TS]

00:36:33   things and they all worked and these are [TS]

00:36:38   my cousin's bought that toy in 1964 and [TS]

00:36:41   used it and then I inherited in 74 and [TS]

00:36:44   it all still worked [TS]

00:36:46   I wish I still had that I feel like I'm [TS]

00:36:48   gonna spend all night on ebay tonight [TS]

00:36:50   looking at diecast corgi cars from the [TS]

00:36:52   signal before you do that you're going [TS]

00:36:54   to want to go to youtube and watch a [TS]

00:36:55   really poorly shot video in some guys [TS]

00:36:57   basement showing off his famous world [TS]

00:37:01   war two battle of Navarone giant playset [TS]

00:37:04   because it was [TS]

00:37:05   doesn't have a beachhead they're like [TS]

00:37:08   and like and the infamous vehicles up [TS]

00:37:10   your mountain with ladders on it [TS]

00:37:12   what am I googling oh my christ our [TS]

00:37:14   sanity in the dingus [TS]

00:37:15   oh yeah it's got ladders and it's got [TS]

00:37:17   almost everything it's like army man [TS]

00:37:19   like to the 10th power like the army men [TS]

00:37:21   but they're they're cool-looking army [TS]

00:37:22   men they got infiniti vehicles in a raft [TS]

00:37:25   and a flag with them so there's a great [TS]

00:37:27   there's a good there the great army men [TS]

00:37:29   who are the Nazis and the green army men [TS]

00:37:31   are the Americans the yanks and the [TS]

00:37:33   British to lesser extent let's be honest [TS]

00:37:36   to a lesser extent the Allies the AL ice [TS]

00:37:39   that's right the Americans and then the [TS]

00:37:40   allies who are being a motley group both [TS]

00:37:43   of explosives experts a ragtag a ragtag [TS]

00:37:47   group of Greeks and you know but come [TS]

00:37:51   food people you know people that you [TS]

00:37:54   need to do we need to win four people [TS]

00:37:57   become food people the Greeks the Brits [TS]

00:37:59   you gotta have those people on your side [TS]

00:38:01   to win a war but it's the Americans [TS]

00:38:02   front-and-center get pregnant middle [TS]

00:38:04   Gregory god damn pack [TS]

00:38:06   yes yeah making the call ultimately [TS]

00:38:09   making the call [TS]

00:38:10   somebody's got to make the call and it's [TS]

00:38:12   got to be sure you don't yank there are [TS]

00:38:14   you gonna want to get for that this guy [TS]

00:38:16   also has something in his basement it's [TS]

00:38:18   a thought technology that i still find [TS]

00:38:20   kind of fascinating it's what I can [TS]

00:38:22   clearly identify as something I believe [TS]

00:38:23   it's called a video game chair [TS]

00:38:24   uh-huh you wear an aeron chair [TS]

00:38:28   nope you wear videogame chairs [TS]

00:38:30   apparently I'm not as scary by to play [TS]

00:38:32   video games in does it have a cup holder [TS]

00:38:35   now this one has a pillow on it for [TS]

00:38:36   extra comfort looks like go on the [TS]

00:38:38   bottom of that video game chair you get [TS]

00:38:41   a chance to play video games in it it's [TS]

00:38:43   kind of like like a shitty little [TS]

00:38:45   footless rocking chair and sit there you [TS]

00:38:48   sit there on the floor is that way you [TS]

00:38:49   can sit on the floor without sitting on [TS]

00:38:51   the floor [TS]

00:38:52   ok get like sex beanbag kind of except [TS]

00:38:56   for video games and you're alone [TS]

00:38:58   hi aisi I can't want to use a real cell [TS]

00:39:00   in pairs [TS]

00:39:01   I can't watch that youtube video because [TS]

00:39:03   uh because my operating system is sold [TS]

00:39:06   that it's blocked plugins all please [TS]

00:39:08   watch to watch but oh I'm looking at the [TS]

00:39:10   video game chair and let me tell you [TS]

00:39:13   I feel like how how many fraternity guys [TS]

00:39:19   do you think die every year going [TS]

00:39:22   downstairs in a video game chair [TS]

00:39:25   oh because if i had that the first thing [TS]

00:39:28   i would do back when I was drinking when [TS]

00:39:30   I was a good person I would take that to [TS]

00:39:31   the top of the biggest flight of stairs [TS]

00:39:33   and it seems like such a natural fit [TS]

00:39:35   John I got to tell you I have not just [TS]

00:39:37   another link i think you should be able [TS]

00:39:39   to see this 1i I had never actually [TS]

00:39:41   spent that much time looking in to be [TS]

00:39:43   get chairs month but the first of all [TS]

00:39:45   the first he goes wow this is a really [TS]

00:39:48   high-tech and the second thing is they [TS]

00:39:50   look a lot like children's seats you put [TS]

00:39:52   in a car [TS]

00:39:53   yeah exactly like ah yeah except there's [TS]

00:39:59   a guy holding a controller in his hand [TS]

00:40:02   and look at him go [TS]

00:40:04   and he's got your glasses on he's got [TS]

00:40:05   short hair some of these actually look a [TS]

00:40:08   little bit like Captain Kirk's chair [TS]

00:40:10   why did somebody not design a video game [TS]

00:40:13   chair that is an exact replica of the [TS]

00:40:15   cup I you know what that sounds like [TS]

00:40:18   something that is probably out there i [TS]

00:40:20   think that you if you bought that if you [TS]

00:40:23   if you put that for sale it would be a [TS]

00:40:25   big hit because people apparently are [TS]

00:40:27   buying enough of these things that there [TS]

00:40:28   are literally this is a little little [TS]

00:40:33   bit almost like a love doll like it [TS]

00:40:35   would take so much self knowledge to [TS]

00:40:38   spend a lot of money on one of these you [TS]

00:40:41   know you really have to be okay with who [TS]

00:40:42   you are to have something like this is [TS]

00:40:45   you scroll down a little bit there's [TS]

00:40:46   something almost like a dentist's chair [TS]

00:40:47   with you like Soloflex arm overhead to [TS]

00:40:50   have your screens on i mean i don't want [TS]

00:40:52   to say that these are built just for [TS]

00:40:54   jacket [TS]

00:40:55   no but what they did not know my gosh [TS]

00:40:59   they might as well call the masturbation [TS]

00:41:01   chairs they don't look comfortable in [TS]

00:41:03   the lower back area like that they [TS]

00:41:05   they're curved in a very like like a [TS]

00:41:09   sloppy sort of supine that's not how you [TS]

00:41:12   would sit well better if you say if your [TS]

00:41:15   car seat was anything like ours i mean i [TS]

00:41:17   always felt I have a terrible [TS]

00:41:20   relationship with car seats [TS]

00:41:22   I hate them I hate putting them in i [TS]

00:41:23   hate taking them out [TS]

00:41:24   I hate trying to make the secure and I [TS]

00:41:26   somehow end up cutting my hand when I [TS]

00:41:28   have to like do anything seriously gonna [TS]

00:41:30   rent a car like this one really invasive [TS]

00:41:31   stuff with it [TS]

00:41:32   I've got a I've got a bad scar on my [TS]

00:41:34   hand from the freaking car seats i got [TS]

00:41:36   I'd literally there was blood on our [TS]

00:41:38   stairs from the disease cut i got from [TS]

00:41:40   the kids car seat like a graco car seat [TS]

00:41:42   but but to think that the really [TS]

00:41:45   distinguish quality and I don't need to [TS]

00:41:47   be the apple guy here the most amazing [TS]

00:41:48   thing about my kids car seat is there [TS]

00:41:50   was no way it was almost like something [TS]

00:41:53   they can experiment MIT there's no way [TS]

00:41:55   to put my kids car seat down that it [TS]

00:41:57   didn't fall over [TS]

00:41:59   click the button down but no matter what [TS]

00:42:01   and that's what he stands up on its own [TS]

00:42:03   your site no no no and thats hanging [TS]

00:42:05   with these some of them look there's a [TS]

00:42:07   place to put our you can have a remote [TS]

00:42:08   control [TS]

00:42:09   you certainly have a drink holder my [TS]

00:42:12   goodness [TS]

00:42:13   would you have one of I mean this is the [TS]

00:42:15   thing like I remember remember a little [TS]

00:42:17   TV show called friends i do and remember [TS]

00:42:21   Joey and Chandler had the two chairs [TS]

00:42:27   oh yeah Joey and Chandler had like old [TS]

00:42:29   beat-up chairs that they loved it was [TS]

00:42:30   their chairs [TS]

00:42:31   oh I'm not sure that right think I think [TS]

00:42:34   you're remembering a different think [TS]

00:42:35   you're remembering all of the things I [TS]

00:42:36   don't know if I've ever seen a whole [TS]

00:42:37   episode of friends so my understanding [TS]

00:42:39   is that Joey and Chandler at a certain [TS]

00:42:41   point somewhere in the series which ran [TS]

00:42:43   from I was like massage chairs at it [TS]

00:42:46   something like they got Joey I think [TS]

00:42:49   probably did it may be Chandler which [TS]

00:42:51   Joey Chandler was nicer and she was [TS]

00:42:54   Chandler was that could you be more [TS]

00:42:56   something yeah he would be but he would [TS]

00:42:59   do nicely and chandler and they got lazy [TS]

00:43:01   boys it looks like they got some ways I [TS]

00:43:03   think it's lazy boys they got that were [TS]

00:43:05   like their TV watching chairs yeah and [TS]

00:43:07   it was a big moment in the show when [TS]

00:43:10   these two guys it was part of their male [TS]

00:43:11   friendship and they just said like we [TS]

00:43:14   are we got these chairs and we're [TS]

00:43:16   watching TV and I think all across [TS]

00:43:18   America there was a collective sigh of [TS]

00:43:20   relief from men between the ages of [TS]

00:43:23   probably 15 and 50 because these guys [TS]

00:43:26   had validated the idea [TS]

00:43:28   at getting a getting a chair for the [TS]

00:43:31   sole purpose of sitting and watching TV [TS]

00:43:33   was like not just a not just a valid [TS]

00:43:36   life choice but like it was it was a [TS]

00:43:39   progressive and that is like bonding is [TS]

00:43:42   really arrived we got these chair we [TS]

00:43:44   have arrived [TS]

00:43:45   like what else do you need we've got a [TS]

00:43:47   TV and we've got these chairs for for [TS]

00:43:50   watching TV and at the extension of that [TS]

00:43:53   now that that of that thinking now to [TS]

00:43:57   this world of of a thousand lampreys as [TS]

00:44:02   a good friend grant sure I knew not [TS]

00:44:06   Remora a brad lastly is I did say eels [TS]

00:44:12   yeah these these lampreys and I think [TS]

00:44:14   the Fed and i think that the the video [TS]

00:44:16   game chair is you know it's just a form [TS]

00:44:19   of like that maybe it maybe what it is [TS]

00:44:23   it's a way of saying ma I'm never [TS]

00:44:25   leaving over like this chance this is my [TS]

00:44:29   flag i'm planting the flag or or [TS]

00:44:31   conversely i just made I just made four [TS]

00:44:35   hundred million dollars in my initial [TS]

00:44:36   public offering and i own an 11,000 [TS]

00:44:40   square foot house space sixty dollars on [TS]

00:44:42   a masturbation seat 11 square thousand [TS]

00:44:45   square foot house in Palo Alto and the [TS]

00:44:47   only furnishing is to to jackoff chairs [TS]

00:44:51   and my and my and my a-level in my [TS]

00:44:56   station 12 or whatever i ate person [TS]

00:44:58   jacuzzi tub is empty and full of dirty [TS]

00:45:01   laundry [TS]

00:45:03   that would be so set it's like and [TS]

00:45:06   there's one lamborghini poster like on [TS]

00:45:09   my bedroom wall to give me something to [TS]

00:45:10   look at as I go to sleep at night [TS]

00:45:12   Oh Nick you paint quite a picture [TS]

00:45:15   well you know it's not been around yeah [TS]

00:45:17   travel I've traveled I've seen a little [TS]

00:45:19   bit of the world [TS]

00:45:20   well you know even just just because [TS]

00:45:22   you're not on a lot of boards of [TS]

00:45:25   directors right now doesn't mean you [TS]

00:45:26   haven't been asked I'm sure [TS]

00:45:28   well I haven't been asked enough [TS]

00:45:32   yeah i mean i really do so I really do [TS]

00:45:34   feel at some point Merlin that there is [TS]

00:45:36   going to be someone some listener of our [TS]

00:45:38   program who who has us tremendous good [TS]

00:45:42   fortune but professional good fortune or [TS]

00:45:45   political confusion and when he really [TS]

00:45:47   here she when they really search their [TS]

00:45:50   feelings they're going to say everything [TS]

00:45:53   that i know i learned from John Merlin [TS]

00:45:57   and when that happens they're gonna send [TS]

00:46:00   a white hummer limo to your house and [TS]

00:46:03   mine and we're going to open the door [TS]

00:46:06   standing there in our bathrobes now [TS]

00:46:08   y'all pours the bitcoins you're probably [TS]

00:46:10   going to be holdings like a half-eaten [TS]

00:46:12   hot dog [TS]

00:46:14   I'm gonna be holding a sword maybe I [TS]

00:46:16   won't even be wearing a bathrobe and [TS]

00:46:19   there's gonna be a driver and he's going [TS]

00:46:21   to say mr. man or conversely mr. [TS]

00:46:24   Roderick we're gonna go yes and then [TS]

00:46:27   yeah that's right it's gonna he's gonna [TS]

00:46:29   be like here is a giant filson bag full [TS]

00:46:32   of bitcoins foo and an engraved [TS]

00:46:35   invitation to be on the board of [TS]

00:46:36   directors of the most famous gun company [TS]

00:46:39   in the world something you brought up [TS]

00:46:42   numerous times that at first I wasn't [TS]

00:46:44   sure about and i'm very interested in is [TS]

00:46:46   I like that you're very forthcoming [TS]

00:46:47   about saying to people [TS]

00:46:49   yeah that's all well and good we do [TS]

00:46:50   stuff in the future I want to know how [TS]

00:46:51   to make money off of something that [TS]

00:46:53   you've already made money off of i like [TS]

00:46:55   the idea that you seem to be socializing [TS]

00:46:57   an idea that you might be excellent as [TS]

00:47:00   like a retroactive co-founder like [TS]

00:47:03   retcon leader retroactive continuity [TS]

00:47:04   going to change some of the original [TS]

00:47:06   papers [TS]

00:47:06   John will in retrospect have been [TS]

00:47:09   profound her right eye because I feel [TS]

00:47:13   like what what ends up happening is that [TS]

00:47:14   people found a thing based on lock it up [TS]

00:47:17   they found a thing based on like that [TS]

00:47:19   that their arrogance in the moment and [TS]

00:47:22   they run it into the ground and a [TS]

00:47:24   certain point they have a reckoning they [TS]

00:47:26   have a they have a come-to-jesus moment [TS]

00:47:28   they're walking out in the forest snow [TS]

00:47:30   is coming down to like what is wrong [TS]

00:47:32   with me God and then they think how did [TS]

00:47:36   I get here [TS]

00:47:37   oh shit and then [TS]

00:47:38   and it goes to view flip yeah that's [TS]

00:47:40   right and then I'm like I appear in the [TS]

00:47:42   snow [TS]

00:47:43   yep I'm and I'm basically lemmiwinks no [TS]

00:47:46   I'm not let me winks I'm the Frog Prince [TS]

00:47:48   and I go Lambie Winx laughing Winx I [TS]

00:47:52   don't have it [TS]

00:47:53   let's sing a little song when i tell you [TS]

00:47:55   about the journey you're about to go on [TS]

00:47:56   and then you realize shit he is a [TS]

00:47:59   co-founder his doctor never realized [TS]

00:48:02   that his part technologies got me here [TS]

00:48:04   and yet I ran yet turning my back on him [TS]

00:48:07   i have doubt been deposited into this [TS]

00:48:10   hell into the snowy hellscape 44 and i [TS]

00:48:14   needed i need to walk back down the path [TS]

00:48:16   and and again as you say retro actively [TS]

00:48:21   acknowledged i guess the contribution [TS]

00:48:25   and then start receiving direct input [TS]

00:48:28   yes tap into the direct input of the now [TS]

00:48:31   it's not it would not be that [TS]

00:48:33   complicated to give you undiluted shares [TS]

00:48:36   that basically make you the equivalent [TS]

00:48:38   of a co-founder money-wise I think you [TS]

00:48:39   ask for something more [TS]

00:48:41   it sounds like you're asking that they [TS]

00:48:42   go in and actually literally change the [TS]

00:48:44   founding records to make you have been [TS]

00:48:46   that person for years before and I think [TS]

00:48:48   maybe give you an apology [TS]

00:48:50   there's a fixer sort of as a sort of us [TS]

00:48:53   that character from pulp fiction of the [TS]

00:48:56   wolf the wolf comes in never actually [TS]

00:48:59   touches anything stands there a tuxedo [TS]

00:49:02   with his accurate and excess pointing [TS]

00:49:05   nsx the driver asked show up order [TS]

00:49:08   people around and point [TS]

00:49:10   yeah and just say like you clean up the [TS]

00:49:12   brains you throw your closing in a in a [TS]

00:49:16   bag and and then john cusack's brother [TS]

00:49:21   or sister I was Joan Cusack in that [TS]

00:49:24   movie wasn't it [TS]

00:49:25   oh it's um I'll see now you're going to [TS]

00:49:27   make me look this up that john cusack is [TS]

00:49:29   going to essentially Sweeney no Julia [TS]

00:49:32   Sweeney it's going to take and take this [TS]

00:49:33   take your take this conflict there [TS]

00:49:36   Julius wings and pulp fiction that's so [TS]

00:49:37   weird [TS]

00:49:38   he's gonna take this carpet dead bodies [TS]

00:49:40   gonna take it to her father's junkyard [TS]

00:49:42   and that's where it's going to disappear [TS]

00:49:43   and for this problem solving [TS]

00:49:46   I get paid an astronomical sum [TS]

00:49:48   it seems like a lot to John Travolta but [TS]

00:49:50   you needed the wolf you need somebody [TS]

00:49:51   calling their meeting somebody who knows [TS]

00:49:54   what's what can keep your head in a [TS]

00:49:55   situation like that and I feel like [TS]

00:49:57   that's me in corporate America and I and [TS]

00:50:00   I don't think the old guard the old [TS]

00:50:02   guard isn't ever going to relinquish [TS]

00:50:03   that that authority to somebody like me [TS]

00:50:07   who comes from a from an outsider [TS]

00:50:09   perspective really like the young people [TS]

00:50:12   particularly young people listen to our [TS]

00:50:13   program the young people who were spread [TS]

00:50:15   collar shirts the and who have [TS]

00:50:18   potentially videogame chairs they're [TS]

00:50:21   going to say at a certain point I am [TS]

00:50:23   over my head here i'm surrounded by [TS]

00:50:26   former google vice presidents who have [TS]

00:50:29   degrees in finance who are telling me [TS]

00:50:31   what I should do I don't trust any of [TS]

00:50:33   them [TS]

00:50:34   you smell that gamma ring you know [TS]

00:50:36   here's the thing John everybody here's [TS]

00:50:39   the problem [TS]

00:50:39   ok so here's my pitch for you you're an [TS]

00:50:41   early stage on disruptor so here's what [TS]

00:50:44   i mean by that first of all what is what [TS]

00:50:46   does every company got way too many [TS]

00:50:47   people fucking disrupting too many [TS]

00:50:49   things are just making a big mess right [TS]

00:50:51   and then right around to it still it's [TS]

00:50:52   too late i think you come in there or [TS]

00:50:54   what I said early stage maybe an angel [TS]

00:50:56   round on disruptor you come in you say [TS]

00:50:58   sit the fuck down [TS]

00:50:59   let's everybody let's everybody just [TS]

00:51:01   calm down if you don't stop disrupting [TS]

00:51:05   things moving right but I smirk off your [TS]

00:51:08   face [TS]

00:51:09   that's right get up out of that video [TS]

00:51:10   game chair and go surrounding a [TS]

00:51:12   gentleman at the table that's right and [TS]

00:51:14   whatever you're drinking throw it in the [TS]

00:51:15   garbage we're drinking coffee here [TS]

00:51:17   drinking straight coffee out his silence [TS]

00:51:19   oil out of coffee cups that paper cups [TS]

00:51:22   coffee cups and if one person says core [TS]

00:51:25   competency well I'm in the room and kick [TS]

00:51:27   in the balls now make sure you get into [TS]

00:51:32   this scroll now let's get down to brass [TS]

00:51:35   tacks and the thing is there's gonna be [TS]

00:51:37   I'm not saying that they're going to be [TS]

00:51:39   50 people who listen to this program who [TS]

00:51:41   find themselves in this situation we [TS]

00:51:42   don't need 50 Johnny 20 like 33 people [TS]

00:51:46   over the course of the next 25 years yet [TS]

00:51:48   wake up one day and say holy shit i'm [TS]

00:51:51   over my head Jason really ready to be [TS]

00:51:53   undisrupted that's right i have more [TS]

00:51:55   resources that i know what to do with [TS]

00:51:57   I'm surrounded by sharks [TS]

00:51:59   and by a by people i do not like or [TS]

00:52:02   trust i'm surrounded by 22 year old man [TS]

00:52:05   i can't trust and fifty year old man i [TS]

00:52:07   can't trust all those people get point [TS]

00:52:09   but you know when you open up a window [TS]

00:52:11   back up a catalog now there's always one [TS]

00:52:13   gray beard guy in there who who's [TS]

00:52:17   wearing a like two skinny jeans and a [TS]

00:52:21   and a and a and two shirts over a [TS]

00:52:23   sweater and all this weird shit yes but [TS]

00:52:25   relaxed serious but relax and he is [TS]

00:52:27   there to he's there as the kind of like [TS]

00:52:29   oh that's the guy he runs my company or [TS]

00:52:32   whatever the young CEO is only 55 you're [TS]

00:52:35   surrounded by those guys and you say [TS]

00:52:37   there's none of these people have what I [TS]

00:52:38   need I need a sim attar refer need some [TS]

00:52:43   I need somebody who's gonna come in here [TS]

00:52:45   and tell us what we can drink first [TS]

00:52:47   first off before we go another step [TS]

00:52:51   because all these guys that all these [TS]

00:52:52   guys that went to thunderbird business [TS]

00:52:54   college they roll in there and they see [TS]

00:52:57   it they see a meeting table strewn with [TS]

00:52:59   Starbucks cups and they don't see shit [TS]

00:53:01   about it because they're not thinking [TS]

00:53:03   about the you know they're not thinking [TS]

00:53:05   at the micro-level night like this this [TS]

00:53:08   board of directors is not going to be [TS]

00:53:10   able to make a single worthwhile [TS]

00:53:12   decision if we are all sitting here [TS]

00:53:14   drinking starbucks out of paper cups [TS]

00:53:17   that's not how business gets done I'm [TS]

00:53:20   done I'm here to tell you about the race [TS]

00:53:22   and you start with some of the little [TS]

00:53:23   sex that's right I'm afraid to tell you [TS]

00:53:25   and you and you and you sit up in your [TS]

00:53:27   chair god damn it and put your shoes [TS]

00:53:30   back on [TS]

00:53:31   look at you know I'm yeah that's right i [TS]

00:53:34   just put your shoes back up [TS]

00:53:36   I'm the old guy being worried about that [TS]

00:53:39   you have to come in itself but the [TS]

00:53:41   shoots put your shoes on there in office [TS]

00:53:45   the first thing we're going to do in [TS]

00:53:47   this office is built some goddamn walls [TS]

00:53:49   between people's desks and the ping-pong [TS]

00:53:54   table goes I'm sorry I'm sorry I'll guy [TS]

00:53:59   everybody shinee the rich guy [TS]

00:54:00   no i think that's that's your forecast [TS]

00:54:05   right the balls [TS]