Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► sponsored by cards against humanity they [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► asked us not to read an ad [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► hey just enjoy the show [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin was going there [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► you gotta get a little vocal fry at this [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► at the top there fri little fried [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► voiceover artist lady voiceover artist [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► yeah that you Chad you know I witness [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► haha idea i was i was never aware of [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► vocal fry except as the subtle feeling [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► of uncomfortableness us until one time I [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► was standing out in front of a bar in [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► Brooklyn and this young woman woman was [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► talking to me and I was like I I'd known [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► her for a while I was like what is the [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► what is the matter with her [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► I'm thinking to myself you know she's [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► talking to me and I'm like what if [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► something's changed living in Brooklyn [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► is no good for this person and then [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► another friend walked up as she as she [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► moved on in conversation to someone else [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► another friend walked up and said in my [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► ear got a vocal fry huh [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► because an adaptation like a little [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► strapon she had adopted this vocal fry [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► as a as an affectation trying to try to [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► make it in the big city and i had had an [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► untucked an unconscious not an [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► unconscious but I had an identity and [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► visceral reaction to it but I didn't [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► know what I was reacting to and as soon [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► as he said vocal fry i did i'd never [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► heard the term before but I understood [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► immediately what it was and I was like [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► oh that's right she was speaking like [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► her voice was a little frying pan [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► she was just sitting there free you know [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► like frying some bacon and like [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► vocal fried that is a that it's a new [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► concept and then all of a sudden I heard [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► it everywhere and i was like i'm doing [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► it's everywhere [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► yeah well I'm but hey I this may be on [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► the netflix on like Bell made a movie [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► called in a world in a world in a world [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► that's about voiceover people into I've [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► been meaning to have been meaning to to [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► watch this movie I heard many good [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► things about it it's great it's about a [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► young woman trying to break into the to [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► the overwhelmingly male voiceover world [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► who her dad is like the OS the guys [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► named Don what's-his-name she hit anyway [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► her father in the movie is like the king [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► of voice overs and she's really good she [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► I think she might teach accents to [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► people or something she wants to get it [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► exactly as you described it though and [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► will arnett is in it which of course [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► makes the triple funny [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► yes it was great she was on on the fresh [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► air [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► she and the actor who plays her father [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► were both interviewed on fresh air and [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► she went through the great thing about [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► voice person as they can you illustrate [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► everything that they want to describe to [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► you and she said she talked through all [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► of the annoying things that female voice [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► artists are you going to be able to [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► including the frak [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► fry baby voice and all the baby voice [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► the baby's voice I hear it a lot you [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► know because i like it really only when [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► you turn on the radio you know you here [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► in commercials especially I think I feel [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► like I hear a lot of time so we're [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► listening to radio you hear all of this [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► horrible affectations what's funny [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► because you and I on this program and [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► again i know that some of our listeners [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► are are are opposed to me breaking the [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► fourth wall or even the third wall [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► listeners talking about the anonymous [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► letter but you and I are voice artists [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► right okay well maybe not [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► yes we paint and obscenities Hitler and [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► snot although fortunately fortunately [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► for us [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► hmm we have never had to we've never had [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► to describe our art as ever [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► exploring the intersections between [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► anything [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► that's not that's one of the things that [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► I'm really immediately allanon you like [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► it when people explore intersections [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► John I just I feel like whenever i see [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► an artist say that their work explores [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► the intersections between I'm just like [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► I put the brochure down i turn away from [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► the gallery wall and i say i do not want [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► to i did not want to explore [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► intersections with you [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► artist and I as an artist have been [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► fortunate never tapped to explore an [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► intersection hand that I don't and I [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► don't want us to do it on this program [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► it's it's funny if you think about like [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► you know reading interviews with [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► musicians you like or filmmakers you [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► like you know they'll sometimes talk a [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► little bit about technique [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► certainly but I mean let's talk about [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► him really practical terms but it seems [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► like today especially in the internet [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► related trades it's not uncommon at all [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► to talk a whole lot about your [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► philosophy before you've ever actually [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► yeah I'm talking about like what you're [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► what you think you will eventually [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► produce is going to be the intersection [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► of these two things that's right that's [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► right well i hope i hope that we put [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► into some small role in that in [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► encouraging young people to to really [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► put forth a philosophy before they've [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► ever really made anything [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► yeah every we lot of work lots of [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► persuasive theory as well as some would [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► say you know your work is interesting [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► but lacks a persuasive theory but it's [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► so early it's really early [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► oh you know I i received my first spam [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► text this morning how welcome you did [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► you get on your phony phone or I got [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► Michael I get them well I get on google [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► voice forwarded to my phone a lot but [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► was it wait where you placed in a carry [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► cast in the movie [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► no no no I this was this was even [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► grosser I so I'm embarrassed to say I'm [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► so embarrassed [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► the intersection of embarrassment and [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► texts but lately i have I don't know [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► what has happened to me [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► ice I i tried to put a little bit of a [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► of a moratorium on thrifting just [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► because it just seems like it just need [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► to just chill it out for a little while [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► if you want to lose weight [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► stop buying potato chips if you want [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► less stuff that requires classification [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► that's right because our store i'm going [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► to the thrift store right about the time [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► that i found a whole series of tiles [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► that had that all had their then they [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► were old and each one of them had a [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► different crest of a different province [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► in the check in Czechoslovakia i was [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► like i have asked that I have to own [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► these things like look at that you know [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► it's the it's the dough that the [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► checkerboard Griffin of moravia and then [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► I got them home and I was just like what [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► is going on you mean you-you-you [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► decorated your house like a bier stube [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► and uh you don't even drink beer so I [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► was like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► through stores anymore and then all the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► sudden three o'clock in the morning I'm [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► lying in bed and I'm scanning ebay on my [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► fucking phone and I'm I'm like on ebay [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► and I'm them searching searching [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► searching and I can you know what I [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► don't have hits any I don't have any [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► Italian climbing boots you know what [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► else I don't have I don't have silk [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► pajamas and unless that seems like an [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► obvious one [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► alright so pajamas I have a lot of [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► cotton pajamas I don't wear pajamas but [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► i have cotton pajamas because I feel [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► like they may be archived something a [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► gentleman needs and anyway at some point [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► so that i'm on ebay and then i'm getting [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► at that i get i could i get all uh I get [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► all excited about like Oh what you know [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► you know what I the problem the problem [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► is that i don't have any Italian [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► climbing boots [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► it's that I don't know enough about [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► Italian climbing boots [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► so that i'm researching Italian climbing [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► boots on the internet which leads me to [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► all of those sites where men are talking [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► to one another about their clothes and [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► their fashion and there's a whole world [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► and i know you don't know anything about [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► how would you know that because you tuck [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► your dad jeans into your socks [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► well because it keeps like easy to keep [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► to yourself write it keeps the skeeters [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► out but but i'm on and so then I'm [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► father i'm reading message boards where [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► guys are like I bought a pair of Italian [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► climbing boots and i found that an 11.5 [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► is actually closer to 12 or whatever it [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► is I mean that people just talk [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► I don't have to tell you people [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► everything is it whatever it is whether [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► it's the seduction community or the [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► Italian boot community you you get [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► deeply into jargon technology insider [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► information you know who knows more [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► who's more legit right Agnes that's I [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► think that's common to pretty much every [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► community eventually especially if it [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► involves men [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► that's right that's absolutely right [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► about their boots planners and I'm then [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► I'm getting boots plane to buy a [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► thousand guys and I have no way of [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► telling whether these guys are 65 year [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► old former mountain climbers whether [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► they are 22 year-old a people who was on [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► interest it and eventually then that and [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► the things my judgment my judgment is [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► impaired at four o'clock in the morning [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► and I'm you know and right next to me on [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► the bed stand i have an ipad but i'm not [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► doing it on the ipad i'm looking i'm [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► using my phone and I'm you know I'm [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► scanning these little message boards [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► researching some esoterica and then [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► invariably somebody says well you know j [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► crew has a really good set of reissue [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► dammit Italian [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► mountain climbing boots and even even [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► though it's against everything that I [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► stand for [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► I went and was trying to look at [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► something on the j.crew website and they [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► wanted me to login and I I was uh I was [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► alone I was vulnerable i heerd I was a [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► little impaired i was little sad I was [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► longing for these was longing for [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► information and i entered my information [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► into the j.crew website then i was [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► logged in now I had an account was [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► logged in i realized that that the the [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► website was a there was that it was just [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► a it's just an elaborate shell game [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► no you weren't on the jquery site no I [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► was oh but but all Internet commerce is [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► a is some kind of a shell game right I [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► got there I found the thing that I was [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► trying to find and then I clicked all [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► the way through to the to the end game [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► and they were like oh I'm so sorry sold [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► out would you like to see another thing [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► that doesn't it isn't anything like it [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► she could also i think it's one of those [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► companies were a lot of times you get to [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► a page and they say when it be easier if [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► you called us doing that with my [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► daughter yeah which I'm trying to order [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► backpack for my daughter like the real [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► specific and like well to get these [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► certain features what'd you just call us [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► that yeah certainly have to call they [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► really i think what you call [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► well anyway I'd like you're stuck in a [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► shell game you're vulnerable vulnerable [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► in the shell game and I'm like God why [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► did I do this get you know this is [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► garbage get me out of here and I log off [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► and I try and I go and I wash my hands [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► some scrubbing really hard and just like [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► that was a bad experience and I wake up [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► the next day and their spam in my email [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► from some clothing company and I'm like [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► fucking j.crew that fast [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► you sold my stuff you sold me down the [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► river that fast and then now it's two [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► days later I got a freaking text from [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► somebody that's like are you and you [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► know Mike [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► Korres is having a huge set you think I [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► sold your information long Underpants I [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► didn't even put my I didn't put my phone [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► number in mr. Hagel think thats related [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► how could it not be have never received [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► this only weighs disturbing sad ways [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► that things cannot be related [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► michael kors tell you this update or [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► saturday i said by my daughter every [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► every year at the game school year we [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► get our daughter a new backpack and we [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► ordered the special special backpack [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► with the purple backpack with the owls [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► and her going to put our initials on it [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► so we call them sets that sets of that [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► sets up a really weird really weird [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► president for her was gonna show me 42 [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► years old she's me like it's fucking [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► September I need a new backpack on mid [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► to late august i still want to do a tank [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► folders i have no need for them that's [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► what I create my class regularly name in [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► my room number in subject the top of [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► everyone so okay here's what i will tell [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► you and nothing against j.crew and I'm [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► pretty positive it was j.crew that we [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► got this from systemic a nice backpack [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► and it was funny because I remember like [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► I guess I I feel like they probably [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► maybe sign up for a new account because [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► my like didn't my old password or [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► long story short i think i got at least [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► eight emails from them having bought [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► what exactly one item some of them with [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► things saying we received your order [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► other things that you're others on the [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► way but then I started getting like [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► daily emails from them and that and it's [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► like you know I the thing is there are [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► their argument just say there are good [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► mailing lists in the world that are [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► worth signing up for and people will [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► send you something informative every day [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► and that that's a good thing i have [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► never to my knowledge at least in the in [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► the in the contemporary Internet age [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► like in the last 10 years I have never [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► intentionally asked a vendor to email me [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► about anything everything back in fact [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► kind of stuff about computers i scan the [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► page for the place where i can click the [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► dingus to say i don't want to get the [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► ensure you have to go if the dig down [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► through several layers to find the place [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► where you say please don't ever email me [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► right but even still like if you buy [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► stuff from third parties on amazon they [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► sent him your information so something [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► that i bought like three years ago i [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► still get stuff about that and so [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► finally I had to just you know mash on [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► the the spam button a bunch of times to [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► get you know the decreased us know [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► anyway [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► I think so what was the nature what was [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► the nature of your texts [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► well I deleted it but it first of all it [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► had a lot of a it had a lot of emojis [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► emojis [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► uh-huh little star emojis and happy face [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► emojis and snowflake emojis it was a a [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► very long text and it was telling me [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► that there were special offers for me [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► about michael kors products and i'm [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► assuming a question about the Great the [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► the great American designer met course [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► i'm assuming that he is a clothes [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► designer fashion design a project runway [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► yeah he has stores he designs things and [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► he looks like an oompa loompa [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► I i'm not familiar with him with his [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► work and and it is not the type of thing [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► I mean generally when I see things like [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► that that I don't want to see a name of [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► a fashion designer [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► yeah i-i-i a large it somewhere in the [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► back of my head as a as a thing to you [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► can make a joke about sometimes has it [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► that well as the thing i mean i-i not [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► sure [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► karl lagerfeld I put about half of it in [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► in a play in a place in my brain where I [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► where I catalog names of things to hate [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► and then half of it in the other part of [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► my brain which is like what if i'm at a [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► cocktail party and I meet this guy I'd [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► better you know I'd better like have [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► some connection i bet the familiarity of [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► like this guy is a fashion designer so I [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► don't walk up to her and say I loved [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► your show all the great haha [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► Oh what shall i ah you know what you [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► what you can watch for the one that down [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► everybody gets at some point arm [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► watch out for a text involving [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► discounted prices on premium brand [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► sunglasses [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► yo that's what everybody's been getting [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► for like the last year come I i have [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► noticed I've noticed that the thrift [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► stores now almost universally recognized [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► the value of their vintage sunglasses [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► all interesting used to be i would find [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► I would find ray bans by the bucketload [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► for ninety-nine cents at Goodwill's and [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► they didn't they were oblivious to them [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► and I [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► what walked into a good will the other [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► day and they had a pair of raybans up [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► under the glass which was a bad sign and [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► then I was like how much do you want for [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► those because you know I've converted to [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► a new the new way of thinking I'm going [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► to pay a little bit of money i see i [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► understand tough for you to accept it [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► but it's like I guess it's ok it's very [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► hard for me to accept these things are [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► worth money I knew it before you seem to [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► know what they're outrageous and John [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► you've been to the goodwill by our house [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► that with the family now fancy goodwill [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► with no shirts and there's no way that [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► that ten-year-old shirt cost that much [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► when they put it out [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► well that's ridiculous that's exactly [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► right and i said to the woman like how [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► much is the how much you want for those [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► and she said $99 and eyes at $99 that [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► seems like a lot of knowledge for you [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► son [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► they're not that much more new with a [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► case and she's like she shrugged was [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► like I know what can i say like oh man [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► $99 not respond to some of this text [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► here in some that I've gotten about [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► every week or two I get a similar text [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► message the most here's one recently [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► Merlin to the name you have been matched [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► with TV show starring Denis Leary [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► auditions approaching soon [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► what ya pays 842 dollars a day it's a [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► very specific number [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► Merlin you have been matched the TV show [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► directed by mark wahlberg auditions this [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► week and they're all las vegas telephone [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► numbers they're all from 702 phone [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► numbers are Robert De Niro I could work [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► with Robert De Niro I could work on the [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► hit TV series sirens I could be a fall [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► modeling shoot for something called on [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► tight blue now now how does this mean [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► this seems very specific on the the in [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► the sense that they have to know that [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► you are somebody who like this feels [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► like it's coming from inside your brain [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► as a house now right well yeah i mean [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► what you don't know how much your stuff [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► is already out there but it's it's now [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► they know my you know my name and they [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► know my google voice number and they [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► text it so yeah you would [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► but that you might that you might like [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► seriously be considering i mean for me [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► write a text like that I would [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► how would I be like you when it's [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► healthy more that's finally dinero has [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► finally asked for me by name [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► yeah yeah you know the thing about a [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► scam is it's been years now incense a [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► scam look like the scam you thought it [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► was [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► and the problem is to date the scams are [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► so complex that i mean i think it's i [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► think sometimes when with things like [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► this i wonder if some of these are just [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► a way of verifying the most important [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► thing in a scam which is that you will [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► respond right so there's something on [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► the end of the on the other end of the [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► line [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► oh yeah here's the thing and he's always [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► have a pattern to these are basically [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► just spit out by some kind of an [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► algorithm so it's got it says Merlin you [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► have been matched with something and [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► then it'll say where it's accepting [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► submissions for something the name of a [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► celebrity something about editions a [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► phone number and it always ends with [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► reply stop to stop because you know in [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► SMS you're supposed to be able to i [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► think maybe legally you're supposed to [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► be able to type the four letters sto p [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► and never contact you again [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► of course it doesn't work it's the same [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► way people used to reply to spammable [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► please could you I could you please put [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► me on your do not mail list because i [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► don't like to receive unsolicited email [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► and all that does is prove the treatment [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► works when you respond to spam it just [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► shows that your email account works and [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► be you respond to things and here's what [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► every salesperson nose is there are [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► people out there who think they don't [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► respond to salespeople but as long as [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► you're talking they're still closing [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► when you're talking to a spammer but why [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► are you talking to them like where you [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► usually yell at a wall but know that now [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► they know that your account works so [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► many years without one that get you [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► something else [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► ten years ago my wife replied to some [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► send in some card from a magazine and I [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► print plant Bayou salespeople ever since [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► oh let me see let me say grace grace up [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► any ten thousand dollars in cash and the [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► american express card but grace [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► oh I really I really want to get into [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► that old could've gotten last time I'll [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► Gil really love this one [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► you know I I know you don't find my work [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► but did you know how much i adore that [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► it's a very good it's a very good movie [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► and the guy in that scene is we're [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► talking about [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► glengarry glen ross and the course [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► Jaclyn is purely can there be can there [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► be anybody who listens to this program [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► who isn't who hasn't watched glengarry [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► glen ross a hundred times there's always [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► something to surprise us jon was always [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► something that is a private eye I think [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► it's safe to say probably have not watch [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► it as many times as I have watched it [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► for example right now and film addition [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► to film you can watch in 90 minutes [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► there are young people out there are [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► your classic 22 year olds you know who [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► it's very hard to know what they've seen [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► and what they haven't seen that makes to [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► what the Fox said but they've never seen [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► Hitchcock film murder my god i suddenly [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► hate myself so much its back [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► I saw the juicy the rhubarb rhubarb [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► everybody you know entirely unacceptable [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► did you see this road warrior reboot [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► hell no I saw all this talk on the [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► internet about a road warrior trailer [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► right firstly easy joke and I said what [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► oh that's right easy joke that just that [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► just set off a bot in you all right you [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► joke is I'm just I'm just sitting there [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► in the peanut gallery watching other [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► people who hate their life way to make [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► the easy joke about anything anybody [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► says [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► wow black pressure high priority from [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► prepare all paper ready or more likely [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► bubble bobble it seems like you and like [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► guys just got a glimpse behind the [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► current might have been hacked the that [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► Ronald Reagan more like huh 450,000 [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► different scripts that are running you [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► all the time [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► am i right he jumped so people are [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► talking about the blade runner gernot [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► blade runner the growth of the road [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► warrior trailer on Twitter and I'm like [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► why why suddenly are half a dozen people [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► i follow going back and watching a movie [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► trailer from 1981 [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► and then I was sitting around the house [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► and I was made aware of the fact that [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► they have are making a new road warrior [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► movie and you know road warrior uh was [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► it was very important to me i would say [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► one of the real foundational artworks [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► everything my camera you know you can't [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► be serious [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► you can't be serious twenty-two-year-old [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► you hate like the app class [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► what were you doing in 1981 that the [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► road warrior did not appeal to you [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► masturbating and throwing saving throws [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► at separate times some gentleman and you [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► know my dad took me to see it he was [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► like I was so I was so into it of course [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► i couldn't he isn t it was rated R and I [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► was well was an identity one where you [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► were yesterday / 13 so well yeah is that [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► right yeah I guess that's right are 68 [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► right yeah okay and I know I think I was [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► probably 12 because mm my birthday's in [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► September I think the movie came out [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► matter in the summer but anyway I went [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► with the one of my dad and the movie was [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► you know obviously graphically violent [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► and there's all every kind of violence [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► but as a pyromaniac there were there's a [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► lot of fire in that movie that was very [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► exciting to me and at you know that was [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► at an age when any appearance of fire on [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► the screen fire was always the star of [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► any film but it had all the ingredients [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► it had all that it had all the Red Dawn [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► a post-apocalyptic lawlessness cool [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► outfits big guns you are people with [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► need hair [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► yeah people with need here people are [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► lots of quotable lines foreign accents [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► it just seemed that and federal like [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► yeah like fast driving and dangerous [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► behavior [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► number one dangerous behavior movie so [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► anyway this thing this this movie [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► resonated with me [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► I've seen it 1,000 times did you seek [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► out the CGC count the new version of the [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► trailer for the new one [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► well so this was the thing so I heard I [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► heard about it I was like oh god I have [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► to go now and watch this thing I don't [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► want to and I and I think it decide what [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► part of this is gonna make me make that [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► I've justice i'm so mad already [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► and-and-and-and interestingly when I [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► found out that charlize theron was in [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► the film e that did not turn me against [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► it right away [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► oh I was that turn you against it [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► well this is the thing it there were [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► there were 400 actresses that could have [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► been cast in that movie and 390 of them [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► would have turned me against it [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► immediately [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► oh ok right you're thinking you're [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► thinking no guarantee but she could pull [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► it off but I but of all the actresses [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► charlize theron is has been a very small [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► group of people where I'm like me okay I [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► believe it's still like it could even be [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► good with her disaster on the face of it [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► because she is an actress who's willing [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► to make herself ugly in order to yes [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► she's teaching me that she's also she's [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► got a hilarious sense of humor very much [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► already self-effacing percerin that [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► between two ferns no no that that shows [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► a little close to home for me but a 28 [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► people in your in your basic she has she [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► has a real physicality you know she has [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► there's a lot of there's a lot of things [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► in which I could see her sort of like be [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► of the proto humongous and and take over [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► the film so I'm like okay I'm into it [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► you know and i go and i click and i [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► watch this trailer and it's one of these [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► movies where a car gets into an accident [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► and then the tire comes off the car and [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► instead of bouncing across the desert it [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► comes straight at the camera boy and [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► then you see the tire treads on it as it [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► goes by and bad cut [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► it it right and there's you know all [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► super slo-mo and people things blowing [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► up the implausible car wrecks very high [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► flames [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► yeah where cars are are tumbling upset [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► you know like there's the that they're [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► in a recommendation and they roll 40 [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► times and in the space of that somebody [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► slides out the window manages to me and [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► walk across the ground pick up the car [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► keys and get back in the rolling car in [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► time solution behind without turning [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► around [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► yeah right and they open the glove box [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► and the car is still rolling it's just [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► like fuck you a thousand million times [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► yeah so a people are really excited [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► about they're really excited about Star [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► Wars i don't i don't care i just think [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► you may have just turns I'm kind of [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► important public corner in old man [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► that's so I but i watch that watch the [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► watch the online advertisement for the [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► film and was an alternately [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► disappointing possible that some people [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► like Star Wars I didn't get the boots [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► that it if you picture me in a giant [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► shawl collar cardigan sweater angrily [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► slamming a book it's basically the for [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► the the the French father in Munich and [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► you know chopping chopping up some [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► shallots like you could have been my son [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► onp our dad um snow boots for you know [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► our mmm i did I actually did get some [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► boots [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► ok good baby it will work they weren't [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► talking climbing boots you know there's [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► no no because we're kind of on the [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► record publicly the UI I think you are [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► it sounded like you were really heavily [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► weighing toward soon as you hit the [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► skype button you're going to walk [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► outside and by a wooden fork and spoon [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► well so here's what happened someone on [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► Twitter yes I saw ya right info then I [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► made us aware of a talk about technology [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► that we've been missed [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► they did they were like what the what [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► are you doing giggling why don't you get [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► chopsticks and I was like oh boy haha [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► what the hell have I been doing [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► why am i not carrying chopsticks all the [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► time because chopsticks you can use for [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► about the thousand applications you know [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► points points the clever Twitter guy who [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► shall take yeah great [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► uh-huh next time you are around a fire [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► where people are eating stew pull out [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► some chopsticks and so kind of response [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► you get [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► good point good point wait a minute you [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► bring a fork now but I have these [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► chopsticks turn into a pen [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► good point okay but you're repping right [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► partner yeah whatever wish and you [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► wanted to be like an audible wish that [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► you're pulling out your Claymore and you [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► go here and you got a fork classic scene [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► in the road warrior also where where [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► where the road warrior himself Mad Max [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► particular red wire that's right opens a [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► can of dog food [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► he has a dog yeah right he's got like an [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► Australian Shepherd candidates right a [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► little australian shepherd dog he opens [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► a can of dog food and you as the viewer [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► in 1981 as a thirteen-year-old boy 1981 [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► you're like oh he's gonna feed his dog [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► and then he pulls out a fork from inside [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► his leather costume and starts eating [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► the dog food which was maybe as shocking [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► thing as any of the death or [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► dismemberment that you see in the film [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► on first viewing like to see the dog [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► food and then we've seen so much growth [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► stuff in the 30 years since then that [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► you forget that there was a time with [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► something like that would really got cut [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► off your lunch just like whoa but then I [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► think Kevin Costner drinking is P very [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► heavily influenced i'm not sure i saw [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► that movie that would be the water felt [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► waterworld no didn't see that movie [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► didn't see water world because I because [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► I follow the adage of a whichever [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► director it was who said don't never [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► make it never direct a film on water [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► forgetting that was that's a quote [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► that's a wikiquote that's sounds like [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► Wallace Shawn in princess bride i think [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► it was before final and land war in Asia [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► never direct a film never direct a film [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► on open water never go up against a [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► sicilian when death is on the line cut [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► some in Saturday's it is still so funny [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► the way said that kind of second sanity [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► any man under the giant but wait the [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► other there's more sorry for a civilian [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► fork is more to this dog food story ok [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► so he's getting the dog food but of [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► course there that's the moment when the [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► film blows up in your mind's mascot [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► because because you're like it's not [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► just that they're driving around in the [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► desert and the than that [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► there don't appear to be any police it [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► truly is the end times it's a great [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► example show don't tell a cannibal today [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► you would get a crawl like four [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► paragraph crawl with a voiceover and [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► some sprite news bits [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► that's what they do today they do that [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► Planet of the Apes movie they doing all [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► these movies now swimming these people [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► leaving dog 30 Mike yet but in that you [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► just all you do you show that you show [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► that seem like oh shit got real right [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► now I understand the entire you the [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► entire world of the film [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► yeah but as he's eating the can of dog [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► food the dog is watching him licking his [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► lips but also the gyro captain is [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► watching him and he was a Greek rest [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► that not the euro captain the gyro cabin [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► I gotta look this up i'm sorry i'm doing [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► out in this match the road where you're [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► talking this is the road warrior the [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► gyro captain's watching him and the gyro [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► captain reaches into his gyro captain [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► costume and pulls out a wooden mixing [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► spoon that is like heavily used [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► and then they then again show don't tell [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► the world [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► double triple explodes because you [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► realize every single person in this [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► world is carrying an eating utensil in [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► his coat and the gyro captain has chosen [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► a wooden make wooden mixing spoon not [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► because that's the best tool but it's [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► because the it's the tool that he found [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► who [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► and you're just like get this film is [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► owning me owning me as a [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► thirteen-year-old and I think that was [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► that is the beginning [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► uh-huh that's the beginning of this [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► feeling that I should always have an [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► eating utensil and then the question is [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► are you a road warrior who has a fucking [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► fork or are you a gyro captain is [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► carrying around a mixing spoon a [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► smartass and Twitter that is chocolate [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► is me [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► actually you don't have a lot of the [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► similar factors by having chopsticks [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► which is an ancient tool that you can [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► use its not feel like you don't want to [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► show especially by having your house [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► right now and it should have a you have [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► a little leather toolkit that i unroll [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► it has a spring for jobs [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► that's all you got your daily carry what [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► they call it the sushi sites where [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► people show what they put their pockets [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► oh I have seen those it really carry [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► it's a thing it's a whole genre it's [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► like let me take you on an excruciating [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► tour of the various kinds of costly [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► knives i keeping this letter back [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► oh my daily carry as you gotta you gotta [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► show for costly wristwatch expensive pen [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► some kind of of a fancy knife and then [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► there's gotta be usually some kind of a [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► dingus that's extra super 22 clever [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► oh it's like some time dependent a [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► lighter or something appendix a lighter [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► yeah mine a did the music for metals to [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► all right don't have to tell me [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► wow I love that guy and the music is [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► very evocative [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► there's a lot of that I have yeah I had [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► my Clarice inside the Highlands for him [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► oh there had his hot licks I are you [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► talking about the the how to you by the [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► hot lets you forget that it's a it's a [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► VHS tape right mines Cosette the king [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► was a little booklet [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► oh and it was amazing because it's only [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► was all just recorded in one take [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► everything is broken away from Queen you [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► know how your mother down and they play [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► the original and then he slowly plays it [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► for you and you learn that I learn to [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► play bohemian rhapsody was really [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► fantastic i was fantastic [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► no I never the one time I was watching [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► MTV and for some reason [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► oh yeah this is office is even more [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► embarrassing i was going to tell you [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► what my daily carriers but now i'm not [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► going to hear both I want to circle back [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► around to it up switching gears and [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► carry can't forget it i'm watching MTV [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► early days has to be about nineteen [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► eighty one two and they're interviewing [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► eric clapton and this was before I had [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► the before I had the realization that [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► that there was something dead inside of [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► eric clapton and it was nothing before [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► his like second big comeback [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► it was before they went after midnight [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► no no that nose for what's the one it's [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► just no way that you use it was brother [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► that one right and and and and there was [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► a there was a good song on that record [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► like a man who's better too bad but i [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► forget what i look like i went but there [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► were there were there was some good some [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► friends of mine actually want to see him [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► on that to her i didn't i didn't go you [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► know that was the arrow that was the era [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► when sixties rock stars were appearing [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► onstage and like dusters [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► oh absolutely there has been a long [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► coming back out of it [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► yeah they're all coming out of the [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► woodwork there in their forties coming [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► out of the woodwork with something you [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► know more palatable version of something [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► that they did kind of done in the [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► sixties and seventies yeah but they but [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► they had a mullet [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► I think he did have a leather duster I [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► think you're right leather duster and a [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► moment and and and you know and it's I'm [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► sad to say because now I'm in my forties [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► like like oh it could it be that these [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► guys were still feeling pretty relevant [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► oh I've been more successful when I was [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► young like it's like they did it exactly [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► forever man [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► already my own she's waiting she was [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► things you wanna you wanna have a [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► forever woman because that's a nice [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► pairing with the forever man [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► registered earlier bergere anyway this [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► is always the amount of time it said to [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► say those words to write them was before [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► I understood there was something [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► permanently dead inside and he was on [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► MTV and you know and I was like oh [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► Clapton Clapton yeah and he's talking [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► about his guitar playing and he's got a [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► guitar in his hand and so like I reach [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► over and I push record on the Betamax [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► player that we had that I kept that I [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► kept in there to record all the UH the [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► bikini running scenes at the end of [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► Benny Hill House so like if i ZZ Top it [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► came on you just run over hit record and [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► you're good i can catch it right get a [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► burner in there and so he so clapping [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► journeys like you know Margot teleport [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► so you know the really simple man I mean [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► it's not like that's not a very good [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► Clapton accent but and he said putting [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► students you know one of the things I do [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► that I'm kind of doing George Harrison [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► ringo starr accent right i don't think [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► it's a little bit Liverpool he says you [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► know I play a other one of these licks [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► and he goes for about that battle power [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► and i was like he just showed me how to [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► play guitar lick and I I rewound the [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► tape a hundred times and I learned [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► this guitar lick that's a pretty good [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► lick and I was like wow [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► let me do that again and basically that [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► one quitarle Suzie that's the only [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► guitar like I ever learned and it's the [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► foundation of every single guitar solo [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► I've ever played wow and I don't like [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► like when I was staying at your house [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► one of the first times we ever met [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► no not one of the first time and we've [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► been friends for a while but you sort of [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► our first probably one of our first [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► high-level meetings [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► yeah you showed me that's a pretty good [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► one that's that is super hand and I was [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► like that's a killer guitar riff that [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► was the 2nd r if I'd ever ever notice [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► season 206 you ever need a reasonably [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► everything in G that's it /a do you know [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► the you know also know the the rocks off [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► one right which one is rocks our l just [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► want to go like I I my guitars all [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► fucked up the can get some Chinese right [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► now but you know what to write all you [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► need to know a way that i know i know [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► one more [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► that's good little walk down there so [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► those are those of the guitar licks that [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► I know and that one that I learned from [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► Clapton from my from my beta tape of him [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► sitting at in an mtv studio telling [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► Martha Quinn that he'd that all of his [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► guitar parts were actually really simple [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► and and I felt like after I learned that [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► one guitar part i was good i was covered [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► right i have you can extrapolate a lot [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► from this simple things [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► yeah right and so then you know so that [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► i did that every day every time i got a [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► chance and a little by little I think [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► maybe then off of a cassette tape I [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► learned the solo for bad moon rising [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► that's a good one this one this is what [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► I was talking about with this one you [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► can find always find a good place for [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► this i'm not sure i'm not sure i do this [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► kind of a little Keith Richards see for [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► the bear [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► yeah that's a nice one I should be [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► working with you when we're in a little [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► box somebody shows you the little box em [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► right you know talking about probably [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► the little box somebody drew me the [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► little box on a piece of on a piece of [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► it or permanently it's it's one of those [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► things it's like cab and who's the who's [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► the guy who's the psychologist that low [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► yet no oh yes I care of it [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► doctor doctor doctor here for cereals [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► you know who I'm gonna be the guy that's [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► not fried the other guy but can't take [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► art can I do anymore right now haha it's [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► like a union thing for me o.o you I I [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► see little bomb was nothing but you're [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► bombarded by the pentatonic I could see [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► that on our fretboard like in my brain [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► all the time i see it to either the [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► funniest thing whatever I tune the [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► guitar tech cart [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► whatever I'd tune the guitar and [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► recognizing that you bend the fifth I [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► think about the intersection [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► of northern lights are you doing [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► intersection and been some i am a victim [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► of the intersection of but i'm actually [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► thinking of B intersection of two [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► streets in Anchorage way and for [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► whatever reason it's imprinted in a day [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► cartoon fashion the Cartesian fashion [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► occasion pyramid it takes to love that [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► show like the Cartesian water that makes [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► our beer so delicious haha the mail and [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► cheese for whatever reason this and i'm [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► sure i well I hope other people have [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► this experience where certain like a [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► certain completely unrelated memories [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► get attached 20 actions that you have [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► that you do frequently that you've been [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► doing for forever and and you know every [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► time you brush your teeth you think [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► about the march of dimes or yeah it's [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► time I everytime i tune my guitar I [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► think about this particular intersection [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► in Anchorage I'm just marched and [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► marched dogs you know when you think [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► about that that's kind of a funny and [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► something every dollars made a dog [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► that's what ones and cheese and now from [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► now on I will think of the march of [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► dimes every time I brush my teeth and I [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► don't know why one of those one of the [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► low after i graduated from high school I [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► was at the mall with a good friend of [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► mine and he was moving away and we were [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► walking around the mall and we stopped [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► at a drinking fountain and he said you [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► know he took a drink and then i'm taking [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► a drink and as i'm taking a drink he [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► said I want you every time you see the [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► little drain at the bottom of a drinking [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► fountain [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► I want you to think of me oh whoa [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► and I was like I said whoa he was trying [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► to colonize my brain [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► he was trying to put himself he was he [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► just didn't know I've never met him and [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► now i'm gonna do that [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► yeah he did not that he did not want to [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► be forgotten and she was walking around [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► the mall and he was like how do i make [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► sure that I'm not forgotten [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► it's like everytime you every time you [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► bend over to take a drink of water [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► the drinking fountain I want you and you [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► see that little that little drained i [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► want you to think of me pretty [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► and did it work well no because nobody's [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► drinking fountains that much [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► well above or it was it's just a thing [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► of like I'm not gonna be I'm not so [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► easily colonized but i do remember that [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► moment and I thought about it many times [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► as a kind of example of human frailty [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► man I'm cool I'm from the opposite that [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► but I'm the opposite of that I i can [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► still tell you specifically i remember i [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► mean there's so much dumb shit where you [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► could get into my brain so easily it's [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► appalling it so now I got some for tooth [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► brushing and then i won't remember this [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► conversation and now on the podcast six [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► months from now that you know what's [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► funny is everything which particular [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► markedly I don't remember what I've ever [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► told you the story that's pretty crazy [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► but I am but I remember one time my mom [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► stopped at at a like fate manifested [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► like a 7-eleven type places they've got [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► it can get film for the camera and I [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► said okay she's good just going to get [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► this you gotta get the Kodak film kodak [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► 1 1020 exposure [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► okay what is it kodak 1 1020 exposure [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► 2110 exposure one-tenth exposure 1 1020 [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► exposure that's when I was like ten and [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► i still have 1 1020 exposure how my [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► brain and I don't have to come up with [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► an antidote [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► oh yeah 30 38 years ago my mom said 120 [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► closer to me and i still can think of it [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► very very easily i'll never forget one [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► tenth exposure look for bread quarter [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► milk stick of butter and a loaf of bread [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► quart of milk stick of butter much and [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► I've I have to think that my brain is [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► full of those things too and they come [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► out they come out all the time and you [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► wonder when you get one of those flash [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► memories where it just seems like you're [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► here you're filling up your brain with [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► something else and all of a sudden it's [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► like well we gotta get we gotta push [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► this thing out and you're just [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► transported to to some memory that you [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► have never had access to its like [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► teleportation for me and [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► and I think for me probably the music [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► the musicality of like the way the way [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► somebody said something there's a [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► certain musicality that really made it [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► stick in my head maybe it made me laugh [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► and made an emotional impact as well but [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► there are there's probably dozens of [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► things like that [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► the doorman outside of a bar as far as [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► I'm concerned all you knew waivers are [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► in purgatory [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► I'll never forget that line haha [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► outside outside of but it was New Wave [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► night at a gay bar leg as well as far as [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► I'm concerned all you new waiver in [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► purgatory and that line it's just a tune [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► in my head forever [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► sure murmurs good record if you like [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► keyboard oriented music the phrase [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► keyboard oriented music it's just stuck [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► in my head [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► why would you say that while i was like [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► 50 different ways why would you ever [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► seen murrs a good record if you like [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► keyboard oriented music keyboard [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► oriented music and I don't think about [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► your keyboards on my camera yet camera [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► got some piano on it and that's pretty [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► much it [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► keyboard oriented new keyboard oriented [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► music said the guy at vinyl fever in [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► tampa florida in 1983 my god Shawn [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► Nelson is full of great quotes like that [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► the most famous bacon it it's not a [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► friend [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► no not another jumper the most famous [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► one is oh well god I can't I can't I [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► can't lose it now [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► oh no I never seen anyone so God all [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► stupid as you put oil on the radiator is [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► that a quote that's a quote the [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► Shondells put oil in his car ready [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► his car was overheating or something was [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► like oh shit me when you screw the cap [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► was like uh I guess you put oil in here [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► and put fucking corn oil and Israelis [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► are you kidding [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► take it to a mechanic somewhere in [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► Virginia the never seen it oh no I'm [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► sorry never seen anyone as shit all [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► stupid [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► that's it better as shit all stupid as [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► you put oil in the radiator one-tenth [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► exposure women but the the the memories [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► that poor out of my head and the problem [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► is one night when that happens I seized [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► on them and I say please don't let this [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► be the last time I remember this please [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► brain do not be discouraging this memory [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► and now i'm experiencing at this last [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► I'm i think about that too and then it's [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► long and never know if that was the last [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► time you wouldn't know right you're not [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► going to recall it and so I grab these [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► memories by the ankle and I'm like [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► please don't go don't go and i and i [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► reinforce them desperately trying to [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► hold on to this feeling of like that [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► just met just degrades it I I think of [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► like knowing your little kit and like [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► use number 44 silly putty was you can [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► make it flat put it on the sunday [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► funnies and then peel it off and you get [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► a reverse image of the sunday funnies on [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► why would you want why you wanna do that [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► I don't know but of course you do that [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► you get really bloody you make a little [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► pancake you put it on your dagwon [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► blondie and you pull it off [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► exactly how to do its dagwon body is [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► where you put it to it's not like I'm [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► going to get certificates blondie but [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► you are you look at it then and so [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► here's you got two things now on the one [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► hand you kind of fucked up your silly [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► putty a little bit with this wasn't a [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► trauma know about you know what happened [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► you removed a lot of the image from the [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► page and the paper i do it again takes a [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► little bit more the image off and to me [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► that's how memories are I worry that [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► each time at first I'm just removing a [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► little bit of the clarity then I'm [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► removing some of the color and [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► eventually i'm actually destroying the [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► linework m120 exposure attack ships [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► burning off the shoulder of Orion here's [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► in rain [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► ah LTI I don't want you know if the [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► things I've seen Merlin doll yeah sure [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► you get the sea beams think the thing [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► that that's it that's right CBS [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► glittering off the 10 how's our gate [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► every that that's going to go there [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► uh-uh-uh-uh thing is that the seventies [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► live so so vividly in my memory haha I [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► indelible energy shiny secret huh i miss [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► them every intonation of every [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► commercial on the sole survivor [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► I still have every note of that music in [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► my head by bologna has a first date but [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► listen this isn't working so it'll hurt [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► i'm not just talking about the Museum of [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► television industry are like dear [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► remember when you pull into a gas [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► station and there was a man up there was [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► a person that came over and not wiped [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► his hands on a rag and said I'll take [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► you 1 further than the other up i'll [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► take you 1 further than that I heard a [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► sound last week and I i flipped out and [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► my daughter my daughter obviously [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► already thinks I'm not so I was like [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► that sounds that sounds I was like [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► that's the sound you used to hear when [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► you pull into a gas station you know the [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► same way [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► ding ding because you drive over the [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► thing and it goes to drive over the [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► thing that goes ding ding when was the [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► last time you drove everything with 20 [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► years it's got to be honest 20 years and [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► it used to be used rover thing that went [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► ding ding every freaking day all the [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► time and remember your web but the thing [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► is I don't know where it was my bencao a [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► ringtone or something something on the [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► radio but I heard something that sounded [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► enough like the ding ding it's that tone [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► ding ding and I heard that and I was [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► instantly transported back to like the [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► early oh now now I want one of those [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► that would be so handy if you had one [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► just like got bored here [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► well just the problem is as you remember [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► from the seventies [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► yeah just could not you could not make [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► the ding with your shoes [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► nope i should try stand out there and [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► jump on that hose and couldn't make it [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► go ding so yeah it's not useful [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► I want it unless you unless you own a [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► garage or unless you are a car rental [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► agency or some other thing where you [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► want to be signaled that customers [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► arriving by car [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► I didn't mean to derail you but that had [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► to mention that just because it was like [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► less than a week ago that that sound had [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► hurting years and was instantly like it [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► was a sound that I heard every day still [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► got instantly transported me back I feel [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► like our young listeners right now are [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► rolling their eyes so hard in their [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► heads that they're going to have to go [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► see a doctor because we are having an [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► old man podcast now we're talking about [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► things which Hiram I remember the oil [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► embargo [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► it's not it's not i said that to it [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► there was a time when you couldn't buy [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► ice cream everywhere people don't know [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► yet now instead of america by cigarettes [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► in a pharmacy like a gentleman [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► what we doing we were waiting in line i [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► was waiting in line with the guy that I [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► could tell was 30 probably and I said to [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► him by way of trying to like break the [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► conversational ice better too young to [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► remember the oil embargo and he looked [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► at me he looked at me like i said uh you [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► know like I had said something to the [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► effect of work with it [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► did you ever visit Prussia like your [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► women that junior you're too young to [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► remember the oil embargo I said by way [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► of trying to commiserate with this guy [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► that we were waiting in line at a coffee [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► shop sounds like an awesome terrible [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► pick-up line is going i was going to [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► cancel out here that you too young to [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► remember the oil embargo say how much do [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► you know about the carter administration [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► because I know a lot of members in ski [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► every goal is to turn our thermostats [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► number that is crazy man that helicopter [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► and desert only a few years too old for [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► sure you're altering the only got my god [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► the first never voted for President was [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► Ida caucus me too [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► oh yeah really yeah but you were your [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► age then to caucus and Benson my house a [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► killer lineup [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► it sure was sure was boy and and we lost [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► we lost big time because you run around [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► in that tank with that will fill fitting [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► helmet all that's it turns out story i [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► think i think that was a jamup you know [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► he came to Spokane and I this was one of [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► my first moments of sure like pure crowd [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► work at the Dukakis was coming to speak [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► at the at the big student sports [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► pavilion at Gonzaga and they have down [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► here we have yeah right it's called it's [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► called father sitter dome [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► and the sports arena SATs what let's say [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► eight thousand people and twenty [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► thousand people showed up to see Dukakis [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► in spokane in 1988 and then no one was [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► prepared for it and he was supposed to [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► be there at eight pm and he and the [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► sports stadium was full of people and [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► then there was another in other words [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► each just thousands of people outside [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► who couldn't get in but didn't want to [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► leave without getting a glimpse of the [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► caucus and the police were there and [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► they strung up ropes but they were [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► completely outmatched and so the young [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► democrats were trying to do crowd [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► control and the audience was kind of [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► that this huge crowd outside the stadium [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► is kind of surging against this this [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► rope line that they had and Dukakis [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► didn't come it wasn't that it was 90 are [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► you kidding that it was 930 and and [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► people kept walking the line you know [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► like with that the the a guy from the [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► National Democratic Party would walk the [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► line and say he's on his way everyone [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► wear sarees just he's on his way it'll [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► be a little bit longer and the crowd is [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► is really a lot of people and pushing [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► against this this rope line that's just [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► being held by some undergraduates and [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► they have this look of like total fear [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► in their eyes and I'm in the crowd not [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► involved with the young democrats not a [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► part of the scene at all just came to [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► see the caucus and once i got into the [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► mob scene that I was just there to see [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► the mob and it's kind of cold out the [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► crowd is getting really Restless this [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► guy's been by five or six times saying [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► hey nobody knows it the will be here in [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► a little while and people are starting [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► to not believe them and they're starting [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► to shout back at him and the crowd is [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► pressing forward so that the the the [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► young democrats in their little blue [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► suits and their little blues like skirt [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► then jacket combos are starting to get [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► afraid like they're trying to get [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► panicky they're getting pushed against [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► this wall and there's not there's no [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► room for them to to maneuver and there [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► you know there's something so horrible [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► way to die right because rushed atom.d [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► caucus Dukakis rally that he didn't show [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► up for and there squeaking at the crowd [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► like can you please can't please [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► everybody just take one step back [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► everybody just take my step back and [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► nobody hears them and nobody cares and [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► you know the crowd is starting robble [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► robble robble robble robble and a [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► certain point this this gal that's right [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► in front of me and she's exactly exactly [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► my age she's probably 20 years old and [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► she's just like please please everyone [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► please David she starts to get that the [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► sound of her voice and i'm watching this [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► all go down and I was you know I was [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► just thrilled to be in a in a crowd [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► right but I I see it and I start to and [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► I just have this like flash of of like [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► oh no this this is actually a bad scene [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► it hasn't gotten to be a bad scene yet [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► but it is we are we're at the threat [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► but it is we are we're at the threat [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► old wear it once we cross it it's just a [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► bad team like there's a point where it [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► goes from old boy I hope this doesn't [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► get worse too [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► it's a matter of time until something [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► terrible happens yeah and and kind of [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► can you really can't pull back from that [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► once it starts what had happened was no [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► one was respecting anybody anymore and [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► it was just a question of if to caucus [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► that showed up at that moment it would [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► have been you know would have just been [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► chaos and so for whatever reason I [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► ducked my head under the rope and this [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► girl looked at me with like total panic [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► like here it comes [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► I ducked my head under the Rope I turned [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► around face the crowd and I was like [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► hello everybody can you can I get your [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► attention please [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► and I went into David Lee Roth mode and [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► all of a sudden you know the 400 people [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► that were closest to me had something to [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► look at right all of a sudden there's a [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► guy big guy who's talking in a voice [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► that is audible right everyone all these [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► all these the these undergraduates [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► really pleased everybody's to pack and [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► then all of a sudden there's like hello [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► people and so everybody looks at me and [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► I'm like I want i wanna i want to try [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► something right now can I get everybody [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► to just dosey doe back two steps and [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► everybody steps back takes two steps and [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► I was like very good all right now let's [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► take it you know this is you know this [TS]

01:01:30 ◼   ► secret wish to just do it like you're [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► David Lee ro yeah I'm gonna get up and [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► everybody takes another two steps back [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► and then I was like tonight is going to [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► be one of the greatest nights of our [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► lives because we are gonna see mike [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► dukakis and everybody kind of cheers but [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► they also know that I'm that I'm mocking [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► so that so they're like laughing and [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► cheering and I just you know the the the [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► top of my head's caught on fire and I [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► was just like so all of a sudden now [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► there's 1,500 people listening to me and [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► laughing [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► and I did 45 minutes 0 top of my voice [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► stand-up comedy based on mike dukakis [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► not having arrived yet and it was that I [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► mean one of the first times that that [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► that I never had that experience where [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► it was just like oh I know what I'm put [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► here on earth to do I am put here on [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► earth to do this whatever this is and [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► you know the young democrats were like [TS]

01:02:38 ◼   ► all rallying behind me like they I I was [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► their hero and they were like you know [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► oh my god you've got you know please [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► join the young democrats and always kind [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► of crazy stuff and with my and then I [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► had a team i had 10 people who were [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► willing to work with me and for me to [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► move this crowd and to get them to do [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► things and I was like I want everybody [TS]

01:02:59 ◼   ► to say on the count of three I want [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► everybody say hey whoa you really found [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► your instrument he found my instrument i [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► did it was when you had the the monk [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► down put a high was I was I was just [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► sheepherder I was made to do this you [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► know i had my i have my crook [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► I had my I had my robe [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► I am i canna dog food and my wooden [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► spoon and I was like I will go I will [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► follow this crowd now the crowd and I [TS]

01:03:26 ◼   ► are together and we are one and then [TS]

01:03:28 ◼   ► Dukakis arrived and i have I was [TS]

01:03:32 ◼   ► whipping this crowd into a frenzy just [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► like he's here [TS]

01:03:36 ◼   ► the man himself mon Dieu God does the [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► crowds like haha and Dukakis arrives his [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► car drives over in through a in through [TS]

01:03:46 ◼   ► like a garage door [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► we never see him what he gives a gives a [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► 45-minute speech in the stadium to the [TS]

01:03:57 ◼   ► 8,000 people that are in there and then [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► that the whole time I'm out there like [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► he's gonna come out you know making [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► promises on behalf of mike dukakis no [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► one has authorized me to do this but I'm [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► like he's going to he's going to stand [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► on that stare and he is going to tell us [TS]

01:04:12 ◼   ► his plan for America [TS]

01:04:15 ◼   ► I'm i turned into al pacino [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► and and then at the end of the thing at [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► the end of the rally and this is where [TS]

01:04:25 ◼   ► this is where i lost my faith in the [TS]

01:04:27 ◼   ► Democratic Party because they were [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► national Democrats who were there and [TS]

01:04:32 ◼   ► who were very happy about what I was [TS]

01:04:35 ◼   ► doing very proud of me and and I was [TS]

01:04:38 ◼   ► like he's gonna come and stand on that [TS]

01:04:40 ◼   ► stare right there thousands of people [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► out here we've been waiting for hours [TS]

01:04:44 ◼   ► and they were like oh yeah they're [TS]

01:04:46 ◼   ► talking into their little headset [TS]

01:04:47 ◼   ► microphones and when mike dukakis was [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► done he got in his car and he drove away [TS]

01:04:52 ◼   ► and never appeared before this massive [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► crowd that had that had that was [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► standing at the basically the foot of [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► the staircase that he could have walked [TS]

01:05:02 ◼   ► out the door been like wave blow a kiss [TS]

01:05:06 ◼   ► we all would have voted for him instead [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► his his handlers probably didn't even [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► tell him that crowd was out there or [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► whatever but it wasn't it was a moment [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► where when that crowd dispersed in [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► feeling of disappointment like I stood [TS]

01:05:22 ◼   ► there and shake hands with people I was [TS]

01:05:26 ◼   ► like you know we went through this [TS]

01:05:28 ◼   ► together this was this was us you and me [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► and and i felt i was i was i was born [TS]

01:05:34 ◼   ► again born again in the light and put [TS]

01:05:39 ◼   ► like that could that could have been if [TS]

01:05:41 ◼   ► you know if he had five or ten more [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► moments like that around the country [TS]

01:05:45 ◼   ► could maybe a little bit different [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► although the I feel like I feel like it [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► was I saw a glimpse behind the curtain [TS]

01:05:51 ◼   ► of how not to run a political campaign [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► it just because it really really seem to [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► find buy that kind of a lack of energy [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► and enthusiasm [TS]

01:05:59 ◼   ► yeah and it was i I have to imagine I [TS]

01:06:02 ◼   ► mean if some guy if some like balding [TS]

01:06:04 ◼   ► guy in a in a in a light blue suit [TS]

01:06:07 ◼   ► walked up to him after his speech and [TS]

01:06:10 ◼   ► whispered in his ear a governor they're [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► like 8,000 people out side here and [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► there's we can just walk you up and like [TS]

01:06:18 ◼   ► walk out the door and wave to them just [TS]

01:06:19 ◼   ► making parents yeah okay [TS]

01:06:21 ◼   ► i I don't I don't believe that he that [TS]

01:06:27 ◼   ► he never received that information [TS]

01:06:28 ◼   ► because no politician of any kind even a [TS]

01:06:31 ◼   ► lackadaisical one would say now I kinda [TS]

01:06:35 ◼   ► want to get to the hotel gonna catch [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► Carson you know so what it was was a [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► failure of the guy the balding guy in [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► the blue suit [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► whoo-hoo was concerned with timetables [TS]

01:06:46 ◼   ► Oh governor we're already late [TS]

01:06:49 ◼   ► we need to get back to the you know this [TS]

01:06:50 ◼   ► is the thing that never would have [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► happened with Bill Clinton right bill [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► clinton always stood he went he would go [TS]

01:06:56 ◼   ► out and shake that those people's hands [TS]

01:06:58 ◼   ► until two o'clock in the morning but [TS]

01:07:00 ◼   ► somebody you know the person whose job [TS]

01:07:03 ◼   ► it was and that was that was what was so [TS]

01:07:05 ◼   ► interesting about it because what stood [TS]

01:07:07 ◼   ► out to me was there is somebody whose [TS]

01:07:09 ◼   ► job this is but that person doesn't [TS]

01:07:12 ◼   ► recognize that this is their job they've [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► been given a job description they are [TS]

01:07:18 ◼   ► they are following that job description [TS]

01:07:21 ◼   ► that they are missing the fact that this [TS]

01:07:23 ◼   ► is their job actually [TS]

01:07:25 ◼   ► and so there is a there is this concept [TS]

01:07:29 ◼   ► of a job description which is um which [TS]

01:07:34 ◼   ► is solve problems as they arise or you [TS]