Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► this episode of Roderick on the line is [TS]

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00:00:04 ◼   ► people working on the cards against [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► humanity holiday puzzle they want me to [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► ask who are you and what do you do for [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► the rest of you hey just enjoy the show [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► hello hi John hi Merlin has gone [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► uh pretty good pretty good pretty good [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► pretty good pretty pretty good fair to [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► Midland pretty pretty pretty pretty good [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► pretty sound good sounds like you're on [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► the mend cloud target it's really hard [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► to say you know what some I woke up this [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► morning I don't know now [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► yeah and I was sunny to brush my teeth [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► are now and then I had a couldn't tell [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► whether i was sick or not and now no now [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► we're so uh so that's where i met yeah [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► i'm having i'm having some coffee i'm [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► numb coming alive [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► yeah I've been talking to friends and I [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► mentioned this already been talking to a [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► lot of friends they all get a seven [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► o'clock in the morning she doesn't [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► matter of course that's when they get up [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► they just seven o'clock in the morning [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► they and they talk about it like you [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► know I but so I've been pulling people [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► in informal poll [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► yeah what time you get up in the morning [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► seven o'clock oh yeah I know I'm asking [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► you now what time you get up [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► uh I i wake from sleep whether I like it [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► or not at six or a little before my [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► daughter wakes up my well my wife [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► blessedly lets me sleep a little later [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► most days unless it's my drop off day [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► but left to my own devices i think i [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► would wake up at seven or 730 see see [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► people talk about this like this is [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► normal behavior got even are you also as [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► you're pulling them regarding their [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► they're going to bed time [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► yeah i mean everybody seems to go to bed [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► at eleven um I i was in a cafe today and [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► there was there were a couple of people [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► sitting across the table from one [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► another was a there's a guy sort of [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► indeterminate age probably 50 and a [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► woman about 35 baby and they both had [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► their day planners out and she was [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► saying well what about what about it you [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► know like 330 we get the ball rolling [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► and he's like great that's perfect that [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► works for me and he writes it down in [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► his day planner and she writes it down [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► under a platter and I was like [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► how yes people are fucking getting shit [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► done having efficient meetings and [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► they're deciding to accomplish things [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► look at three-thirty they're going to [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► get the ball rolling on a date in their [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► character and I bet you both of them got [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► up at seven o'clock in the morning some [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► kind of thing people get up at seven in [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► the morning to you is right now and a [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► timer [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► mhm so for me at nine-fifteen hitting [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► the snooze button again here's how i get [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► out of bed who might i wait for this for [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► yeah I wake up I throw the covers off i [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► set up [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► I recognize that the day is there and [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► then I grab the covers back and I pull [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► them back over my head and I die I go [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► back under the big burrow under the [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► pillows and hope that some through some [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► magic time will stop [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► uh-huh i could sleep forever and then [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► wake up finally fully refreshed and [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► ready to begin what will be the ultimate [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► day which is the after forever [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► ok after forever then there will be an [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► ultimate day [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► oh and that's and that's I start every [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► single day like this very masculine [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► belle and sebastian saw it does not it [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► does not happen at seven in the morning [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► uh-huh but i was i was riding in a cab [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► the other day around seven o'clock in [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► the morning and all the people are out [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► there people running I was in New York [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► there were people fishing people fishing [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► at seven in the morning they didn't get [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► up at seven okay we gotta put six or [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► five gonna have your equipment ready to [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► get your night crawlers yeah so that's [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► how i'm doing i'm thinking a lot about [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► seven o'clock in the morning right now [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► and I'm thinking about it like it's a [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► it's a it's a brand-new thought [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► technology is just it's burning it's [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► searing its brand into the haunches of [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► my mind 7am you know what i like about [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► you John Roderick is your interest in [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► infrastructure it seems to me that a lot [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► of your about technologies involve many [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► levels of infrastructure personal public [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► social municipal you're very interested [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► in how this stuff should operate my [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► wrong [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► no that's absolutely true i mean you're [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► not you're not you're very efficient in [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► a certain way which is that you're not [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► looking for the onesie twosie solutions [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► you're looking for the big ideas and [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► you're saying that this is not going to [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► change unless we change the way this [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► whole operation works okay well have [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► will have good days and bad days [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► no no we gotta figure out a much larger [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► scale and that that is it to me you're [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► interested in if you like engineering [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► and infrastructure [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► oh you're wrong no that's true that's [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► true yeah yeah this uh i've been i've [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► been toying with a new version of an old [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► thought technology be small bag em been [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► thinking a lot about the small bag and [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► with the small bag represents oh my gosh [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► thats there's a lot to the small bag [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► there's a lot of the small bag and you [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► know part of my trying to stay organized [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► and trying to keep my life together [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► involves a process of trying to figure [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► out what I need to eliminate right you [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► look around here like I got you know [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► yeah most people out there thinking how [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► do I a get a bigger bag so that i can be [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► add more stuff to it you're saying know [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► how do I make this smaller how do I make [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► this the perfect the ultimate small bag [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► right but I'm starting to think about [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► holistically across my entire life the [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► question is not what do i get rid of to [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► fit into a small bag the question is [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► what do I absolutely need and everything [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► else is just in the bin [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► uh-huh and I think if you can start [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► answering that question a lot of the [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► rest of your life starts making a lot [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► more sense but but the the problem is [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► where is my belt buckle collection fit [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► into that [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► mm that's violent that's a really has a [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► really good question right i found a big [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► tray a big wooden tray that we had [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► dividers and it would probably been used [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► as a as a typesetters tray on ice and [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► the bend the little dividers were [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► perfectly sized for belt buckles [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► and I realized i have 30 belt buckles [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► and I don't always wear a belt with a [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► buckle and when I do I kind of generally [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► stick to the old classics the Indian [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► Arrowhead the check the cover art from [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► appetite for destruction [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► then there's the one that says John I [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► left [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► that's nice if you wish to see him when [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► you become a character in a comic book I [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► i would like to see really large buckle [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► belt buckle that just says big brass [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► belt buckle justice john i have that 1i [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► have a big bear brass belt buckle it [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► just says John and I where who [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► but you know I also have a couple of [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► scrimshaw belt buckles huh i have more [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► formal affairs and I have belt buckles [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► that are enamel I have it I have an [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► Indian Head enameled belt buckle that is [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► the size of a rodeo winners belt buckle [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► but it's like enameled in six Little [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► Indians with ahead guys [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► yeah it looks like looks like an Indian [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► looks like a cigar store Indian except [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► it's it's the size of a pie plate and [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► it's a belt buckle [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► I don't know people used to live a [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► different life huh i actually have a [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► radio around a rodeo style you know tex [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► econo belt buckle polished silver plated [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► belt buckle with a giant are on it [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► let's be clear and there was a time when [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► if you want a rodeo you got a belt [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► buckle [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► oh yeah but not right like I just wanna [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► clarify for Alicia's not everybody is [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► steeped in the western addition as you [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► are or bad about what buckle is the way [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► that you you wear your trophy if you are [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► rodeo Victor and one time oh and don't [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► give you one if you please [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► yeah well maybe you get a third-place [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► belt buckle [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► you know you're different looks like [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► shit doesn't work very well you where [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► the you wear the ribbon that you that [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► you earn right you if you if you if you [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► earn a white ribbon you wear the white [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► ribbon [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► yes so I was in a i was in a bar one [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► time in the southwest and the waiter [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► was this kid who was who had a giant [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► rodeo belt buckle and I started talking [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► to me was like oh yeah I'm you know [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► rodeo champ and it i have this black [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► flash of realization that just like [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► being kind of a rock-and-roll star being [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► a rodeo champ doesn't mean that you [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► don't also sometimes have to work as a [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► waiter and he he was wearing these [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► Wranglers this was the I've gone back [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► and forth with Wranglers over the years [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► and by back and forth i mean in five [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► times in my life i have purchased it at [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► some somehow have acquired a pair of [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► Wranglers and I thought I'm gonna you [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► know I'm gonna wear wranglers regulars [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► are going to be my new thing and then I [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► put Wranglers on and they don't they're [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► just made for somebody else but it's [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► it's not a hundred percent sure i [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► thinkyeah language for me are kind of [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► like going vegan where it's not to say [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► it has never crossed my mind but as soon [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► as I spent any time with that I realize [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► it's not for me and jonathan richman has [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► a whole song about about jeans and how [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► they fit differently YG they are Ryan [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► and their lead people simply jeans right [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► yeah they do [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► absolutely i mean i don't know there's a [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► brand awareness that they used to have [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► but but there are different body types [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► and I think ladies are very aware of [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► this men we don't care how they fit they [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► just put them on unless you're you know [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► artists alike we are [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► but but now I think makes a huge [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► difference now that the Wranglers and [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► they write a little higher the other [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► high rise and I feel like Lee jeans are [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► what you wear if you are a long-distance [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► truck driver [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► ok but wrangler jeans I don't know you [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► have to be made out of you have to be [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► made out of like sticks to wear [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► wranglers but this kid this rodeo guy [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► was wearing wrangler jeans and he was [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► just like made to wear wrangler jeans [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► and he he looks so fantastic in these [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► regular jeans with this giant rodeo belt [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► buckle that i actually went out and [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► bought another this was the last time I [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► tried Wranglers I went out and bought [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► another pair of Wranglers just in homage [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► to this guy [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► uh-huh and then I put them on and i just [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► am i just looked like somebody had [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► somebody had tried to cover a crime [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► scene in denim [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► ya see I'm I feel like you're posing [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► deliberately posing a little bit your [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► question to me because I am i [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► understanding of the small bag this is [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► not purely a super train thing it's a go [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► bag for any situation think about what's [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► in think about what's in the the lockbox [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► in Switzerland right for us for Matt [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► Damon got that kind of go back stuff [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► right right right one that you can think [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► about in terms of passports and and [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► weapons and money there's the other kind [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► of go bag which is you know like if you [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► have a hurricane [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► if you have a a natural disaster do you [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► have a bag packed that you that is ready [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► and up to date that you can grab and [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► without even having to look in and I [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► think this is very important to the [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► small bag know that everything you we [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► will not everything you'll need just the [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► most essential stuff you'll need that it [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► here's the last part you've got to be [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► able to carry it [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► it's not a small bag if you can't carry [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► for what 10 miles who I mean if it's if [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► it's so it's a roller bag sorry you [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► don't know you might be in a desert and [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► need that small bag [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► well but here are the things they're [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► here are some of the factors right you [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► don't want to put everything in the bag [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► like I say this to people all the time [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► you know what they sell shampoo in [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► Europe so you don't have to bring right [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► they they have toilet paper where you're [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► going you don't have the packet unless [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► you're going someplace where they don't [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► have toilet paper makes a difference a [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► different small back everybody small bag [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► is different you should know you should [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► know and frankly I always carry toilet [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► paper [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► yeah but you know that's an experience I [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► don't want to give too much away [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► oh yeah it's dustin imodium into that [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► empty space use again with a small bag [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► as always attacking use all the [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► available space put things into the [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► whole of the tube that's right that put [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► things into the whole the tube that's [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► exactly right but also do you do you [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► bring what you need or do you bring the [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► tools to acquire what you need when you [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► get there right like in a lot of ways [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► the smallest bag is an American Express [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► black card unless the grids down unless [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► the grid is down exactly and in that [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► case can't wear you can't wear one of [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► those in that case the smallest bag [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► egg is a buck knife right like there are [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► small bags that have a buck knife in [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► them and their small bags that do not [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► what about like a leather man [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► well you know what I don't know me not [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► only the gentleman castro I mean some [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► kind of a multi-tool like a of a [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► lightweight multi-tool I go back and [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► forth on multi tools because in a way it [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► seems like jack of all trades master of [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► none [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► you got a leather man there and it's not [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► we can't really not really not actually [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► useful it's gonna be heavy [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► yeah you don't other ones are mostly [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► like a cute thing you keep in your [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► briefcase so now you got a bottle opener [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► that's what i have i have a couple [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► couple or three full-size like fancy [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► leather man knives and your tools and [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► they're the real heavy [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► i mean i-i don't notice when there's an [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► ipad in my backpack but I notice when [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► there's another man in my backpack [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► yeah I have a Swiss Army knife that was [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► made a long time ago that has in [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► addition to all the things that would [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► that you would say we're on a Swiss Army [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► knife to make somebody laugh yeah it [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► also has a magnifying glass a [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► fire-starting kit an airplane signaler a [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► wedding a mirror [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► well a mirror with the hole in the [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► middle of it so you can you can look [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► across the great distance tonight with [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► you can also hack that into a pinhole [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► camera right or you could start a fire [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► with it was another camera obscura I [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► mean get me every way to be entertained [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► later on so i have one of these things [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► but you know it's the size of a of us [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► like a like a 16 ounce can of beer and [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► and you know ultimately yeah i guess if [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► I fell out of an airplane and that thing [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► was in my coat [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► I could make it back to civilization [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► with the tools at my disposal but i'm [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► not sure that that would be the first [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► that would be my go-to kit [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► yeah I think that's heavy and bulky for [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► what you get i have like an executive [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► sighs this army knife that has a pen [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► built into it helped him it's got four [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► executives it's an executive knife [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► yeah but now I think you're absolutely [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► right i mean so I think there has to be [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► some some clothing lightweight warm [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► clothing probably for most people don't [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► you think [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► lightweight clearly that you can wash [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► out in the sink but but i'm talking [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► about something I'm talking about a [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► larger philosophical and more profound [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► small bag a more profound small bag [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► that's right which is to say like I have [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► the small bag that I grab when the [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► electromagnetic pulse turns off all the [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► microwaves [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► yeah but there's another small bag a [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► small bag that i want to but I want to [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► inhabit a small bag where instead of [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► five white shirts that all are a half [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► size too small in the neck [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► I have one white shirt that is the [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► correct size m and that is 0 quality to [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► talk about the ligand an essential [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► here's the thing this goes back to me I [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► told you about our stupid hurricane [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► earthquake kit because one year ever [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► tell you this like we got Seattle this [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► we got smart one year we're finally like [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► it takes an earthquake to make you go [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► okay we really need to get an earthquake [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► kit anything and we went totally balls [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► out we bought a really nice like like a [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► really nice garbage can start with a [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► nice garbage can because the thing is [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► with the earthquake kit don't have in [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► your house because you know what happens [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► your house falls down now you don't [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► quite get wow you have to write [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► waterproof a very like raccoon proof it [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► is much as there can be such a thing and [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► you put in there enough for sophistry [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► you put it up in a tree right right and [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► you can have a tree this earthquake [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► proof to right it's a complicated [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► maneuver you but you get eat obviously [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► you get enough [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► the basic idea is to have enough stuff [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► for however many people are in your [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► family to be able to be completely off [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► the grid and screwed for three days [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► well sounds like you need a lake house [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► that would be nice [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► yeah it's a nice learning about little [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► some lakes near here anyway do you fill [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► this with water you put in like energy [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► bars basically all the shit you would [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► never want to eat when you're at home [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► you know the stuff you donate to charity [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► you end up putting into this thing [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► here's the thing you put in there we did [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► this and we forgot about it right [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► yeah hey we're settled and then of [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► course you go out and look at it and [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► maybe that lid got off a little bit and [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► it's kind of moldy inside now [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► representations raccoons and you know [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► all the water expires because you know [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► what John water expires lecture goes you [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► know and and so you [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► that's the thing about that what I'm [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► trying to bring to this it as much as I [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► can [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► is that you don't pack a small bag once [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► you're constantly packing a small bag [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► even if it's just in your head [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► yes don't you think that's part of the [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► catalyst optical component you can sit [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► around and say like oh I'm gonna put the [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► silverware in the pistol in here but [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► like now but like what do you need now [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► yeah you're cycling a a small bag is it [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► isn't a live thing [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► yes small bag is is a is not a static [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► animal it is a it's an evolving yes [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► right a creature of friends because like [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► you think about like well okay in that [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► case in that one you know we had been [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► there a bunch of extremely tiny diapers [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► and by the time was moldy our kid didn't [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► wear diapers diapers anymore so i have [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► not kept we had not kept up if it had [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► happened in the interregnum we would [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► have a kid with some really super tiny [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► diapers right we didn't treat it like a [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► living thing [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► well and yes and you know honestly I [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► people you know people have these like [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► our organization strategies like well [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► you know turn it backwards on the hanger [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► and put a put a pin in the neck and if [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► you don't wear it in six months in six [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► months you go through and you take all [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► the things on backwards hangers out and [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► those people have day planners and get [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► up at seven in the morning or or or [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► earlier [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► yeah I try to touch every single thing [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► in my house at least once in the course [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► of a day and a half including the guests [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► i just i go through and they just number [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► put my fingers on everything all the [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► time just Pauly everything [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► are you still here are you still here [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► are you still here or where I left you [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► that's right you done good book are you [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► okay are you okay [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► like shoes are you all right are you [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► okay the shoes I'm wearing today my [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► sister gave me as a gift in 1997 [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► christmas present it was probably a big [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► investment for her and they are [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► shoes of their time right they are 1997 [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► shoes and in the in-between times [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► between now and 1997 there have been a [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► lot of shoe fashions come and go [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► pointy shoes for guys little shoes right [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► flat shoes little-little it's not shoot [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► little shoes we went through a phase [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► there were little shoes where all the [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► way now we're in a place where everybody [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► comically small yeah just like like woe [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► cometh their toes shoes for running [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► shoes club rockers we're in a phase now [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► where every single guy is wearing some [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► kind of suede wingtip in a non-canonical [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► color with a blue Sol or a yellow soul [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► tried love to see them walk in the rain [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► in this think it's very fancy time we're [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► living in right now [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► true if i had seen any one of those [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► shoes 25 years ago i would have [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► seriously flipped out but now you know I [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► get there the shoes of the time right [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► and in 10 years from now 15 years from [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► now you walk around a pair of blue wing [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► tips with yellow souls people can be [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► like other shoes from 2014 [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► she's an unsuccessful clown it's like [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► it's like the architecture that that is [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► flying up all around right now you look [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► at that you look at the the new 10-story [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► condo buildings that are going up and [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► it's just like oh that's alright already [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► looks like 2013 when it was designed [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► it's really not like the idea of comic [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► books they haven't read a lot of comic [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► books you have an idea of know they have [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► an idea of the future but it's not [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► particularly well thought-out are [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► tasteful women are there people that [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► like the idea of comic books but haven't [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► read comical cautious [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► it seems like the idea of comic books is [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► to read comic books [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► yeah well you're you're you're vibrating [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► on a different level and a lot of people [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► in any case these shoes are very much of [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► their time which is what they look like [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► John well Merlin they are black leather [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► they have very chunky souls right this [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► was the this with the chocolate soul [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► time [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► oh yes this is still the wallet chain [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► years wallet chain years chill [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► be so lucky souls tall heal but in the [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► front there kind of pale almost look [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► like Clark's right there kind of a of a [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► chunky style or like a desert boot smile [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► yeah but they're made out of like like [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► pretty thick leather almost to a sort of [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► horsehide but but the thing that sets [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► them apart is this business big chunky [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► black soul and honestly if I'm sure that [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► there are people who are of the moment [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► people out there right now walking [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► around with Macklemore haircuts and [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► handlebar mustaches who would look at [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► these chunky shoes I don't know what I [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► don't know whether they would say like [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► cool because those are retro because [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► there are from when I was five years old [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► or whether they're like so so out there [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► out but here they are and I looked at [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► him this morning and I was like well you [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► know I haven't touched you guys in a in [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► a little while right it's been a couple [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► of weeks since i put my hands on these [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► shoes and said are you are you still [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► here are you okay [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► and I put them on i'm wearing them today [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► if they feel great I feel great in them [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► but they are there in the they're kinda [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► there on the bench [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► let's say they're in there they're in [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► reserve [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► well like second string cheese yeah I'd [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► say these were third-stringers right [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► because I wore them a lot [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► all right back in the day and now [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► they're just kind of you know they put [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► that there [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► they're all the way they're not quite [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► mothballed but there but they're in the [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► they're not the definite regular [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► rotation right there in the garage yeah [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► but um but I got it I got to bring them [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► out and touch them and say you know [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► are you with me still and then we're um [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► I'm gonna spend a day or two in these [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► shoes we're gonna have a great time [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► together but ultimately the trajectory [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► of these shoes is that they are they're [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► making their way to pasture but it's [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► been spending the weekend with a [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► middle-aged child from her first [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► marriage [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► yeah I like right it's just checking in [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► and look around hey how many of these [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► weekends are we gonna have together [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► right yeah how you doing how you doing [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► right doing still did I do a good job [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► did I do a good job with you and I mean [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► from 97 96 97 to 2002 boy these shoes [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► and I had some times together but i [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► wasn't able in 2002 to say like fly be [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► free shoes off to the off to the [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► goodwill with you because you're my [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► sister gave him to me but they're not [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► eternity shoes right there not like my [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► life hat that I'm gonna have for my life [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► right you have a life hat right to I i [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► assume everybody's gotta gotta life hat [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► i was gonna let go by I don't know what [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► a life hat is or whether i have one [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► well it's a hat that when you you know [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► over time you always go to this hat when [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► it's cold [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► ok it's your it's your number one cold [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► hat and then after a while you got your [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► number one cold hat and and it starts to [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► be like well you know you start to feel [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► like what if I lose this cold had what [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► if I lose this hat i'm gonna miss it [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► this kind of has been with me for a long [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► time and then he starts to kind of put [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► the hat away a little bit like I don't [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► need to wear this at this is my good hat [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► well ya know I think I know what you [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► mean but wait then you come back you [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► come back after a little while and you [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► say because that's my hat that's my hat [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► what am i saving it for its for wearing [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► and then you bring the cold hat back at [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► you that you that you put into like [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► sentimental retirement and once you [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► bring it back you realize oh shit this [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► is my life hat [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► I'm gonna wear this hat until I'm gonna [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► wear this hat until I can no longer wear [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► this hat because i had is not a mean [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that's a happen the cold that is not a [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► 30 your life that is not a thing that [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► you're going to accidentally leave in a [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► cab right because you're cold as your [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► life hat it's your life that's right [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► when you get up to get out of a cab your [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► your your last thought is to have my [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► life huh [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► each Center leave your phone that's [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► right because you don't have a life [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► phone not your phone is just that your [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► phone is just a temporary friend and [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► it's not even that good [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► of a friend yeah it's like somebody [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► something college yeah with somebody in [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► college this like that's pretty hot that [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► maybe is a little bit little bit cooler [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► than you and you feel kind of lucky to [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► be its friend but you also resent it a [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► little bit and you don't like it you [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► don't like that friend very much [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► yeah but-but-but that friend gives you [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► an opportunity that's good for each [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► other in different ways [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► mm whoo anyway so here i am i'm in my [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► clunky shoes I got my life and I'm [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► looking at it sitting right here in [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► front of me [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► what else do I need really uh-huh [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► I mean I'm halfway to a small bag right [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► now yeah is that it is very [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► philosophical because I mean the thing [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► is here's the thing and I'm gonna make [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► this a little bit turns out i think most [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► of the stuff if you had people go and [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► especially people who don't travel a lot [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► let's say four people who don't do a [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► carry-on and you ask them to put [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► together their small bag i think by the [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► time they pack that bag for a fifth time [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► they're gonna be surprised what went in [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► the first time the first time somebody [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► that doesn't travel very much some of [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► the first time somebody starts to pack a [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► small bag first thing they put in their [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► shampoo right they start packing it with [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► a bunch of with a bunch of shit [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► a you know they're combing their [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► toothbrush in there all this stuff is [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► usually good way to put it with stuff [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► that you're likely to find in other [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► places [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► yeah stuff that you can boost from any [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► drugstore but there were a zombie like [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► my wife watches the walking dead show so [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► i end up having to watch it freaks me [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► out but I end up watching it I think you [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► can learn a lot from that show they get [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► by fine with one shirt one shirt yeah I [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► mean it's the thing is like you know how [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► many should what you're not trying to [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► recreate civilization yet [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► first you need to stay alive right right [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► well the the concept of the small bag [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► for me began in 1989 in a town called [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► every old France solar pond to having [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► you very familiar with it an adults-only [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► Donaldson I don't know that particular [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► shots on I i know there was a pope there [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► and because of paint suckers from there [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► that's right there was there was a there [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► was a panic i am I [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► refer to myself as the the X of avenue [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► and all the time and nobody ever left a [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► Christmas heart [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► its part number two or pump number one [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► depending on who you're talking to [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► I'm sure but surely you know [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► surely no soul upon daven your own a [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► Donahoe named ansa that is a song about [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► the bridge of having me on [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► ok on which we all danced which is you [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► know it's a bit since the Pope's on [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► let's be honest it's a it's about it's [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► about the pump but I like there's so [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► many secret pop songs i'm gonna write [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► that down and what a fine let's be [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► honest it's about the Pope you could do [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► you know what you could make a hell of a [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► mixtape of secret Pope some blood so [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► late one night I was on I was on a train [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► and and I i arrived in avenue old and I [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► didn't have money for a hotel I but I [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► had a backpack and the backpack had in [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► addition to you know a couple of pairs [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► of jeans and then some shirts and and a [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► tie in case I got asked to a nice dinner [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► it had a carton of camel lights it had a [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► Walkman and a banana and some cassette [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► tapes including traveling wilburys vol.2 [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► and Tom Petty's first solo album like I [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► like to think I know you and it had it [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► had a like a rain jacket made by the [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► spider skiwear company and it had some [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► picture of courtney cox it had some nike [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► lava dome boots tied to the outside of [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► it and it had a it had a hitchhiking [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► sign look at that I'd written on a piece [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► of cardboard that said anywhere you know [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► it was like this is my bag right and in [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► addition to that it had a patch sewn on [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► the back of this of the of the bag [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► this is this was my small bag concept at [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► the time and a patch on the outside [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► from from the Minnesota outward-bound [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► the voyagers outward bound and [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► underneath the patch there were three [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► 100-dollar bills in a plastic little [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► haha dammit that's smart em all that's [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► late john just sewed on the patch so [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► that worse comes to worse yet music [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► stops hatch rip up the patch you got 300 [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► bucks it had a pair of yeah it had a [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► pair of sunglasses in there [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► what else did I have you know obviously [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► socks and underwear journal camera you [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► know it had this was a small bag that i [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► was living out of it had been living at [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► up for a oh well for years and the bag [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► but the backpack itself was made by the [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► company mountainsmith like I had [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► everything in this bag that a person [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► could possibly need to go around europe [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► and america and just be kind of dirty [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► all the time and shower and gas stations [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► and yet be ready for anything right and [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► and by and large hard work but didn't [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► know how to work out for you [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► it was incredible for months and months [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► and months i lived out of this bag i had [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► i bought a switchblade in Italy so I had [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► my you know a switchblade to in addition [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► to probably like the multi-tool that I [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► came with can you must really like [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► yourself then that sounds like a fun [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► time when I was I was a hot hot hot hot [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► tamale and so I get off the train avenue [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► and i'm walking around it's dark it's [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► kinda late at night I don't have money [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► for a hotel and I walk over and there's [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► this kind of park over by the you know a [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► little ways away from the train station [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► kind of over by the by the freeway [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► interchange [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► and they're like six or seven guys [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► sleeping in this park already they've [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► got their small bags are using their [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► small bags as a pillow [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► they're sleeping out in the park and I'm [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► like out here here are my people I'm [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► gonna I'm gonna pull up a piece of grass [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► in this park and catch some z's and in [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► the morning i'm gonna go figure out my [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► next move on zee palsy we so I i lay it [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► all out i gotta go I gotta have a [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► sleeping bag in the in the back and pull [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► the sleeping bag out my climb into it [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► now a lot of the guys that are sleeping [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► rough in this Park do not have sleeping [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► bags i would say them the vast majority [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► of them they're just curled up in with [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► all their clothes on and their bag as [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► their pillow but i have a sleeping bag [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► putting me in in the rare you know the [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► one percent of people sleeping in this [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► avion park my passports around my neck [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► in a little cotton a passport bag around [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► the just bag the size of my passport [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► that's around my neck and I wake up [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► about an hour later and there's a guy [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► standing over me in the dark and my bag [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► which I had been snuggling with is gone [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► oh my god and this guy's he's actually [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► straddling me one foot on either side of [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► me and he's bending over his face is [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► very close to mine [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► I think that's what woke me up the face [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► vibration many yeah you know you know [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► and there's a face nearby face [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► vibrations [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► yeah I wake up and here's this face kids [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► and I can't really see him because it's [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► very dark i'm in a park and he is [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► looking he's trying to find a way to get [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► that passport from around my neck [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► oh my gosh he is prepared to reach into [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► into my shirt and he knows that when he [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► goes for it then it's better that than [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► the fights gonna be on but he's like [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► setting himself up for this grab right [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► he's got this is and i think i think [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► what he's gonna do is he's going to cut [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► he has a knife he's going to cut the [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► wire [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► the strap and grab this thing and then [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► I'm gonna wake up and maybe I'm gonna be [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► serious because you're in a sleeping bag [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► and he's already running through a venue [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► right that's the strategy that's the [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► strategy well so i wake up [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► he's there he sees my eyes open [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► we look at each other in the dark and [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► then she starts to run and I am nothing [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► if not able to eject from a sleeping bag [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► in like a like a crossbow bolt like I [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► come out of that bag in my bare feet [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► already running at 15 miles an hour and [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► I'm right on his heels and he is he is a [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► thin guy and he's moving fast and i'm [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► right behind him and I am so I'm cursing [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► him and I chased him and chased and [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► chased him over hedges and roads and [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► streets and I'm right on his heels and [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► my feet are shredded but i'm not i don't [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► care and I feel very close to don't [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► think I'm gonna wear him down i think [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► i'm actually out of pure fury gonna [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► going to accelerate that last little bit [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► to actually take him down and he leaps [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► over a a metal railing on to the [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► actually onto the highway and I'm right [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► on his heels and my toe catches on the [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► top of the metal railing and now and it [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► sends me right down onto my face and [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► then he's and then he he he goes off [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► down the road at it at a kind of a trot [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► now he's looking over your shoulder and [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► just sort of like just a cool-down trot [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► uh-huh as I lay there just splattered on [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► that on the pavement and i limp back to [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► my campsite and everything is gone [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► oh my god because in the in the chase [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► his friend or friends chaotic as [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► accomplice his accomplice came and got [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► the sleeping bag and the [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► shoes and everything what dicks well you [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► know what's on the game it's all in the [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► game that's right and they are they by [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► you know by the e at using my powers of [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► perception and a guesstimate i would say [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► that they were Algerians and that they [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► were here in France and that they and [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► that this was part of the this was part [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► of the nature of colonialism really want [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► to get down to it this is one of I was [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► one of the victims other ones cozy and [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► his sleeping bag that's right gets his [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► comeuppance how much you lost 300 box [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► oh yes in addition to a fucking carton [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► of camel lights when even then when the [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► Cardinals won a camel and join our [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► reporter yeah that's a lot of money [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► anyway I spent a couple i spent the next [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► few days I mean the first thing I did [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► was limp over to a hotel like a like a [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► cheap blue mama mamas on Pensione type [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► of place and I said listen I don't have [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► any money and I'm covered with blood and [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► mud but I'm an American [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► how do you do nice to meet you i am able [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► to get money because I'm an American [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► well once will you let me stay in your [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► hotel tonight and i will pay you later [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► and the power at the time of being an [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► American maybe its power still exists [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► I don't think maybe it exists less now [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► but at the time that the little uh madam [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► who ran this Pensione was like yeah that [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► seems reason she got the sense that [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► you're good for it right [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► so it wasn't scared of you she respected [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► you well we're a little bit of maybe a [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► little bit of both but a little bit of [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► like right you are an American and you [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► can go down to the American Express [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► office it has American right in the [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► title and express it will be fast [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► that's right go down there and say hey [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► somebody in America send me some money [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► and that's what I did I went down to the [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► American Express office and I said send [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► me the money that i can get [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► it's been so i can pay this lady for the [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► hotel and then i spent about a week [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► scouring the garbage cans of having home [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► because I was missing my journals I [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► didn't care about the bag and care about [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► the the lava domes I didn't care about [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► the spyder jacket and I knew the carton [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► of cigarettes was gone and I never [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► expected to find anything but I thought [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► maybe that they would toss those [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► journals in a garbage can and I wanted [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► those journals and i never found them [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► but in the course of this week of [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► walking around and you know and I by got [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► some shoes [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► Adam at some you know little place [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► this was back when the dollar was strong [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► against the Frank uh-huh so I had my [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► shoes i had my shirt that i've been [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► wearing i had my pants that i've been [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► wearing and I went to one of those [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► street markets and i bought a Greek [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► fisherman sweater you know one of those [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► like Saturday markets and i think at the [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► time in Europe every saturday market had [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► a had someone sitting there selling [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► Greek sweaters because Greece was a was [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► still a poor country and knitting [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► sweaters was was that was one of the [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► things that they did for export so i [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► bought a Greek sweater and walking [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► around the town looking for my stuff [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► when I would get tired i would just kind [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► of sit down on a park bench and doze off [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► and then when i woke up i would just [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► wake up and stand up and start walking [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► and the men and the tragedy of losing [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► the bag started to fade as I realized [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► that I hadn't needed any of that stuff [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► and prior to that i thought that i was [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► at the barest minimum i thought i [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► thought i had just the minimum of what [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► you needed but now I had none of it [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► just the just these clothes and if i was [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► invited to a fancy dinner i did not have [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► a time but I was not going to get [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► invited to a fancy dinner and the [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► condition I was in but I felt for the [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► first time a kind of Liberty I had never [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► I didn't even know existed which was the [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► liberty of total possession lessness and [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► I left a me own sometime in let's say [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► August this would have been 1989 left me [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► on in august of 89 and i continued to [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► bitch I can travel and and sleep around [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► and eat and live until christmas and i [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► never replaced the bag [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► Wow or bought another item and you get [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► by okay i was i I was as free as a as a [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► man could be i would wash my clothes [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► sometimes you know in in a sink or [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► whatever and hang them up to dry that [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► got harder and harder as the winter came [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► on in the you know in the summer you [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► wash your clothes you put them on and [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► they dry as you walk around but that was [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► that was less easy to do not into the [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► safe you know you just you develop [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► calluses in the right places and you [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► develop those them inner thigh calluses [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► that all true great travelers have yeah [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► but but I've ever since them and I mean [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► honestly I must have smelled to high [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► heaven [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► I mean this is the thing you can't [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► you're not you're not doing it for other [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► you're not trying to like make a good [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► impression but I've been trying to to [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► replicate that feeling of complete [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► Liberty ever since and and the first [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► thing you add to that you know the first [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► time you're like well if I had a little [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► bag maybe it would help you know i have [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► i have a bag for my life hat change [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► socks you need these are the true [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► essentials but still in that bag is an [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► attractive nuisance you get put stuff in [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► it now [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► well and when you wake up you know like [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► you're on a train you open your eyes you [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► look out the window [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► oh shit you're in the town that you [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► meant to go to like you have arrived and [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► then the train starts to move and you [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► realize you you slept through your stop [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► if you don't have anything you just [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► stand up run down the corridor open the [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► door and step onto the station platform [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► and the train takes off and you're like [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► that uh I did not miss my stop [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► but if you have a bag em you gotta turn [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► around and get that bag and that few [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► seconds hesitation particularly if you [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► opened the bag and it's true in your [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► stuff around and you gotta throw your [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► stuff back in the bag and then the [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► trains moving too fast to get off and [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► then you're going to the next town and [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► then your destiny has changed huh [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► I am so far from that Liberty right now [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► if you're thinking about a bag for your [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► belt buckles you're probably not quite [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► there yet [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► I got a rack for the belt buckles uh-huh [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► so that if on the if one day I'm sitting [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► in my living room and somebody is there [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► and they're like I really like your [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► candlesticks I'm like your globes [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► will you show me your other collections [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► i can stand up and say where would you [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► like to begin [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► I suggest we start with the belt buckles [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► and i can bring the rack and belt [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► buckles it out [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► they're all there yeah i mean any good [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► tour guide will open by saying have you [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► been here before and how much time do [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► you have [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► that's right i think when you say I'm [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► gonna give you an appropriate fee if you [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► look at six or seven hours [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► let's start with the belt buckles yeah [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► the place to start is not not out in the [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► barn looking at the collection of five [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► horsepower motors place to start is [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► right here on a comfortable couch would [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► you like to see some tea would you like [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► some tea and then I'll of what I think [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► the part of the place to start is with [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► the lapel pins from various secret [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► societies but then we move to the belt [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► buckles what about the what about the [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► backstage passes for shows that you were [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► not playing at that's not contain oh [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► that's a cigar box ser box right I've [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► got about 20 cigar boxes and they all [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► have different like there's movie [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► tickets from movies from the eighties [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► there's four sports events i went to [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► with my dad backstage passes for [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► concerts that i was there fully as a [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► guest arranged by level of access [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► yeah and I can and we can sit all [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► afternoon sheriff wants more tea [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► I mean you know I'm i basically had a [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► kid just so i could have somebody that I [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► could force to sit in and get this tour [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► once right [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► the entire to her when she's about 11 [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► years old gonna be like okay time to get [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► to know daddy [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► I'm not a operating anywhere near your [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► level but something I picked up when I [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► was traveling more often is first of all [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► just a basic realization i think my hype [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► action was a kid I think about how I [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► packed even through college and even [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► through college it was farcical how much [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► stuff i would bring with me that I never [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► even touched and that was a big thing in [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► my head it's gotten a little bit better [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► slowly over time but finally got to a [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► point where I realized you know I wear [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► the same thing every day [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► basically i need what I wear every day I [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► need clothes for the the event that I'm [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► there for which is like if i'm going to [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► talk or something i have some clean [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► clothes and I need something to sit [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► around in right and everything else is [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► as extras last two times i'm with you [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► the last two places I went I've stayed i [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► asked them for toothpaste and shaving [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► cream I didn't bring that with me and [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► they bring it w man bring up some pretty [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► nice toothpaste sure they will have been [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► nice to you [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► this is what I call the the you know the [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► freedom of david bazan right Dave [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► Davidson something i don't know on the [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► freedom of tapers on a certain point [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► they've realized that what he likes to [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► wear was a black t-shirt a red hoodie [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► with a white zipper and some jeans and [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► get you can get that stuff you get it [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► and you got it you're done you can get [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► it anywhere and he just decided like he [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► did like clothes just didn't he didn't [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► want to use even the small part of his [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► brain that it would have required to [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► really like worry about close let alone [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► the big part of your brain if you're [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► really gonna worry I like this stuff has [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► to match and contrast to be interesting [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► just like a band and you Klingon you [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► look at yourself in the mirror you go is [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► that means this me [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► Oh boys had a rathole you take it off [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► and you put on another reason for a [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► better man than that i am ok that but so [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► dave was just like eliminate all of this [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► from my from my existence and I'm just [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► going with this [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► this thing this is going to be me and he [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► he doesn't he doesn't and it is his it [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► you know if UC Davis on in a collared [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► shirt he might as well be wearing a fake [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► mustache you wouldn't even right on top [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► of his regular must eat cisco who's that [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► guy kind of looks like they've been [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► somebody's in a college [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► hurt so so he's freed himself he is [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► liberated himself from all these free [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► nage bezane that's right all the free [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► all these small tyranny 'he's of like [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► does this thing fit right and once they [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► won't stick to him [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► hey they're ineligible this those [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► problems right [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► he's just he's got a he has basically [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► like his superhero costume and it's so [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► it's a red hoodie [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► here's my other thing though and this [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► has actually been really helpful and [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► this is ally fact but the time that I [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► think about what i really need for a [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► trip the best time for me to think about [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► what i need for a trip is when i'm in in [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► my case like a hotel room i'm already in [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► a hotel room and I'm thinking about what [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► i really need so i started this text [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► file a couple years ago of like when i [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► write think of something I really want [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► my small bag for packing now has gotten [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► very simple it's basically what i just [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► described to you right [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► I don't bring all the entertainment [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► equipment anymore really you know you [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► got an iphone or ipad for the kid or [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► whatever but in my case you know what I [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► like I like a large cup to drink water [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► out of my drink a lot of water i want a [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► large cup bring a large cup its small [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► you can stuff stuff in it things like [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► that we're in a large cup [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► well it's like my brother towel right [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► okay all right here's what I'm trying to [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► say is that like when you're sitting [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► there and you're stressed out and [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► thinking about packing stress to me is [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► what makes people jam way too much stuff [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► into any kind of bag is thinking there's [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► innumerable things [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► the thing is what happens if I get [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► invited to a nice party I better I'd [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► better put how to stuff like you're [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► invited to three nice parties [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► yeah right and and so but then you end [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► up doing its kind of similar problems of [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► like the way people deal with backup [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► which if they're constantly kind of [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► blindly backing stuff up here and there [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► it's not that useful because they would [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► know where to get it if they needed it [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► so in my case I try to really dumb all [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► that way down to like what's the most [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► essential stuff i need you know pretty [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► much almost anywhere I go I'm your mall [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► so if I shit myself I can't are over to [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► the mall and get another pair of pants I [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► don't like the word pairs of pants [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► that's not gonna be a nice trip over to [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► the mall but hey you know you can't plan [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► for everything is an evony own at the [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► depth at the w hotel you can send you [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► can call down to the front desk and say [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► hi I'm smelling up in room 1404 I just [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► shit myself can you get somebody to run [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► little and we're fucked [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► yeah I just a giant shit my benefits [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► could you bring me up some 3430 anything [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► happen but hey i got my shoeshine the [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► other day and the shoes are gonna give [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► me give me a shout out there for that [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► idea the idea is this is very very high [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► level but if you end up traveling a lot [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► and what I'm trying to give you a [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► freebie here for working on the small [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► bag idea because the problem is on the [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► one hand yes let's take it as read [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► let's say it because it needs to be said [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► you need to be fucking thinking about [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► your small bag a little more than you [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► think but you don't be acting on the [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► small bag also more often than you think [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► so the thing is thinking about thinking [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► in when you're in your house all that [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► junk in your belt buckles that's not the [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► greatest time to think about a small bag [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► no no force yourself into some probation [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► and figure out what you really need the [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► best small kine 89% the best small bag [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► the best go bag is the bag you're [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► already living out of em but it's not [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► small [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► well it has to be small and it's small [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► it's a small bag and concept is the [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► concept of the small bag or the go bag [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► and then there's the idea of the always [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► Reddy back so you're saying like you're [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► already probably got most of what you [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► need like a backpack [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► I feel like most people small bag is [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► actually their car [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► yep they already have a small bag and [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► it's their car and they have everything [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► their office their desk i was i I got my [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► shoes shined at the airport and the [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► shoeshine guy was telling me this story [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► about how he was a twin of fraternal [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► twin but his sister was like she was 9 [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► pounds when they were born he was four [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► pounds he was he was trying to tell me [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► that he was the runt but a and it was a [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► pretty involved story interesting and [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► unusual thing to bring up when you're [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► Shannon somebody's shoes [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► well you know I mean you got to talk [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► about something teaches that but at a [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► certain point he must have recognized [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► something in me and he looked up at me [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► and he said you carry up to carry a fork [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► and spoon with you and I was like huh [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► no I don't he was like you gotta carry a [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► fork and spoon and I said [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► how am I going to get on an airplane [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► with a fork and spoon and he said oh I [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► mean it can be plastic it can be would [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► but he said I don't go and do you [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► traveling constantly the wooden for said [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► I don't join like that looking at him [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► and I was like there was a time when I [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► did carry a fortune spoons and now I [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► mess kit [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► yeah now i somehow i think i'm too good [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► to carry a fork and spoon [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► I'm not too good to carry a fork and [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► spoon was a wake-up call wake-up call it [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► was I was like I should fucking have a [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► fork and spoon [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► well a few hours later I'm on the subway [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► in New York City and I'm looking around [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► you remember the story about the guy [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► with the with the nice boots on the [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► subway in New York City [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► yes of course the guy with dignity [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► that's right well I'm looking around the [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► subway in New York City and everybody [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► set somehow either everybody in New [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► York's been listening to our podcast or [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► times have changed but everybody on the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► subway had some like really expensive [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► pretty cool boots like the era of small [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► shoes / we are in the area of like [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► written as episode 60 written his boots [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► written his boots right we are in the [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► area now of like it ya like it as the [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► small just imagining like almost like [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► foot-binding people in like in like park [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► slope that's what specialist that's what [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► it looked like to me fucking small shoes [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► was it like forced perspective but now [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► now everybody's wearing these work boots [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► then do not actually a like comport with [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► the jobs that they do [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► yeah it's the f-150 with no scratches in [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► the bed yeah and I'm looking around on [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► the subway and I'm like wow everybody's [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► got really cool boots in new york and [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► i'm wearing my travel shoes clarks my [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► travel shoes are actually a pair of like [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► you know they're like pull on boots just [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► like these Australian yeah that's that's [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► why didn't you get out you know you like [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► it there [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► the purpose but I went from thinking I [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► should have a wooden fork that I carry [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► with me everywhere in case somebody [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► offers me some stew like if somebody's [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► like you want a little bit you want to [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► get in on this too and you and you're [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► like yeah and they go get your fork [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► Oh me and around footwork [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► I don't have a fork and then the answer [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► is going to be like sorry [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► the offer was for students to present [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► you with a full yeah what did you want [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► me to do like set you want to carry that [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► works for everybody [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► I'm going into my meeting with works i [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► opened the can and put it all over a [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► fire if you want since to get your fork [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► if you don't if you don't have a fork [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► then you must not need to stick once you [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► know you can get your fork [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► yeah and so I went from that and just a [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► few hours later I'm sitting on the [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► subway and I'm like shit I'm I'm not rep [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► I'm not ripping any boots here like I [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► got boots on but they're not i mean it's [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► like red wing redwing redwing redway [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► whites boots and and chippewa boots I [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► mean there's the subway was just it was [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► like a boot store and I've got some [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► boots but in order to be in order to be [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► reppin those boots on that new york city [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► subway i would have had to pack an [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► entirely different small back i think he [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► made the right decision [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► I think so too but you know it's funny [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► where your mind can go [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► uh-huh half of my mind is thinking you [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► can you just need to do you need to get [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► on that plane with a fork and that's it [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► you're going to New York bring for what [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► am I i might be thinking like what could [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► have been different for me like how many [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► things with words it was my perception [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► way off because I knew in my heart I did [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► not have a wooden fork with me yeah [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► right you don't even walk over and say [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► means two spells good oh my gosh so many [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► doors that won't even walk up to because [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► you're like shit i don't have a fork I'm [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► like you know just turn around just walk [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► away and then a few hours later I'm [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► thinking I should have brought a bigger [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► bag so that I could have some boots to [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► be part of this boot party here on the f [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► train and it's just like no no no quiet [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► down quiet down chorus of of [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► haberdashers ok needle you need a fork [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► that you can take through security and [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► everything else is gravy [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► mhm [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► you know I never would have thought of [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► that I never would have thought of [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► having a wooden fork [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► I've got some silicon silicon silicon on [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► bowls that I got from like a camping [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► store and you get this package that one [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► big ball one little Bowl and if you [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► imagine something that looks like the [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► size of a grapefruit with the top cut [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► off [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► it's made out of very thin black [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► silicone so the job is collapsible right [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► and that's actually surprisingly handy [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► to have in situations [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► well it's true but it takes up no space [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► in no way in my experience of eating a [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► campfire stew you can you can always eat [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► out of the pot [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► yep you're going to pot is already pot [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► there which gotta have a fork and in the [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► absence of fork honestly you can use a [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► sharpened stick but you're not going to [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► get that through security [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► I you know what I i feel like when i [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► leave here today I'm gonna go buy a [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► wooden fork and spoon [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► yeah I don't plan on it not a giant one [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► sign of the game is on a small like a [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► little cap kit [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► yep but you can get you can get onto an [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► airplane John this is the entire point [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► this is the entire point it was not the [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► entire point but it's a point it's a [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► point that that's the thing you never [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► would have thought of if you hadn't had [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► that little kismet serendipity [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► experience with the crazy shoeshine guy [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► you would have thought about colory now [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► you're rethinking got a whole new [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► thought technology for the small bag you [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► want to pack he's helping me by asking [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► me the right question right like he he [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► looked at me and was like what is this [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► guy need to know today man and you know [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► and he interrupted himself because he [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► really was in the middle of this story [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► about how his his big sister got all the [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► milk she weigh twice as much as it hurt [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► yeah but he looked up he looked up and [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► he was like I don't he stopped his story [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► was like you you caring for containing [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► he just tell and I was like you know and [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► I was sitting there like I'm getting my [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► shoeshine I'm big-time big wheel [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► I'm looking around hey everybody how's [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► it going checking out an airplane [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► anytime now hey right but my my flights [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► just a few minutes but I get my shoe [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► shop [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► shop [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and then immediately I'm be reset like [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► fuck you fuck you prepare yourself for [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► that you never know in this moment [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► you're gonna come along but it's right [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► he was right and it's and that is the [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► right that's the right knowledge so [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► where are you two as you stand here [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► today where do you stand with the small [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► bag because I because it seems to me [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► like you're not really talking about the [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► canonical John Roderick small bag you're [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► talking about like this secondary small [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► bags the like I mean like in my case [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► like we don't even have all of our [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► yearbooks in the same place like if we [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► wanted to save like family photos there [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► in like five places in the house that's [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► the kind of thing that with the belt [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► buckle that's what i get with the belt [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► buckle is like if I had if this place is [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► on fire and I can grab like three things [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► what would I grabbed the kind of what [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► you're saying well and the thing about [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► your books that I let's get ready to get [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► your daughter and your wooden fork and [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► your boots right it's like what's next [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► you got it you got to train your [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► daughter to the egress the building on [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► her own you know like you gotta say [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► listen when the house is on fire when I [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► yell what I yell it out sorry fire house [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► on fire hit the bricks [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► you've got to you gotta handle that you [TS]

01:01:05 ◼   ► gotta have that angle because I'm gonna [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► be grabbing your books and stuff yeah [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► everybody knows their job but what I [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► discovered about your books is you can [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► get any yearbook on on the internet [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► there you go to let your yearbooks burn [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► what are you somebody wrote on their [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► Merlin stay sweet see you next year's my [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► hopefully less fat and biology class [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► yeah not me like a sis here got it but [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► shadow photos family photos you gotta [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► get they only have to be in one network [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► grab back but uh I think about this [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► every once in a while like the whole [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► house burns down everything is gone [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► yeah what is freedom what's the one [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► thing that you that you would be like oh [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► shit [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► and um I can tell you I couldn't tell [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► you one thing I couldn't tell you either [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► this is the i think of something else be [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► fine i would personally I'm sad to say [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► be fine with almost nothing [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► well and that's a mat is illustrative [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► right now it's sad it's sad i mean like [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► we are we did a big perch a few years [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► ago before I was before we moved we did [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► one of these when i read this book about [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► about getting rid of clutter in your [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► life and we had a really big impact on [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► me [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► the basic pieces of the book is don't [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► have anything in your life that's not [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► going to be closer to the life you want [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► which means systematically ruthlessly [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► getting rid of everything that cleaves [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► you to a life you never had or no longer [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► half what you think about it goes for [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► almost everything and that's where you [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► get into like all these clothes that [TS]

01:02:33 ◼   ► don't fit anymore and stuff like that [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► and I was ruthless I mean I really work [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► the system and i went in the two things [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► are you this is gonna sound down but two [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► things I regret [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► there there were some actually not [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► wholly not disgusting rock-and-roll [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► t-shirts i kinda wish I can't like a [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► couple of them i throw every t-shirt i [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► had bought a rock show or been given [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► like we had a convention or whatever I [TS]

01:02:55 ◼   ► throughout pretty much all those bags [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► and bags and bags of shitty t-shirts so [TS]

01:03:00 ◼   ► i kind of miss some of those the other [TS]

01:03:02 ◼   ► one is by accident we had very [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► systematically taken all of our many [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► different bags like Timbuktu bags cool [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► backpacks and put them all in one [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► contractor bag which accidentally got [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► thrown away [TS]

01:03:14 ◼   ► oh I wish I hadn't thrown away like [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► eight bags all the bags and you know how [TS]

01:03:19 ◼   ► I am with bags [TS]

01:03:20 ◼   ► yea yea though I do i do know so that I [TS]

01:03:22 ◼   ► regret but you know it comes up once a [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► month or so I think boy that was a [TS]

01:03:25 ◼   ► really cool you know that good that [TS]

01:03:27 ◼   ► microsoft event in seattle where they [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► put up the W and they gave me that cool [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► messenger bag going gone [TS]

01:03:33 ◼   ► that was a nice messenger back as a [TS]

01:03:35 ◼   ► messenger bag felt like a briefcase and [TS]

01:03:37 ◼   ► now I'm gonna cry I promised myself I [TS]

01:03:38 ◼   ► wouldn't cry [TS]

01:03:39 ◼   ► I don't know what would be that I [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► grabbed you know ever since I started [TS]

01:03:43 ◼   ► calling this half my life had yeah i [TS]

01:03:45 ◼   ► would i would grab it now I didn't see I [TS]

01:03:48 ◼   ► I gotta go over this with my daughter [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► though because first of all I have to [TS]

01:03:50 ◼   ► convince my daughter first of all honey [TS]

01:03:52 ◼   ► you say you're gonna carry this we're [TS]

01:03:53 ◼   ► going to ride scooters well first of all [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► you do not need to bring a stuffed [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► animal to ride a scooter or do you want [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► to bring a stuffed animal to ride a [TS]

01:03:59 ◼   ► scooter you need to put in a backpack [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► that goes on your back correct does not [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► mean mommy's tiny purse that you put on [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► your wrist that was not count because [TS]

01:04:07 ◼   ► let me explain everything you think [TS]

01:04:09 ◼   ► you're going to carry for even 10 [TS]

01:04:11 ◼   ► minutes I am going to end up carrying [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► everyone writes and I got to be that guy [TS]

01:04:16 ◼   ► when we get there and we but we're not [TS]

01:04:18 ◼   ► even up to the point where we start [TS]

01:04:19 ◼   ► shooting she goes could get you a whole [TS]

01:04:21 ◼   ► rabbit friend [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► okay you know what I love rabbit friend [TS]