Roderick on the Line

Ep. 129: "Museo De Garbagemen"


00:00:00   hello ipod hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:09   early in the morning Charlie was merely [TS]

00:00:18   things are good i made the mistake this [TS]

00:00:20   morning of getting a quad americano and [TS]

00:00:25   thanks for expressions with water [TS]

00:00:27   um yeah and it's too much it's too much [TS]

00:00:30   it you start the day you start the day [TS]

00:00:33   just on a on a jeep ride down a Costa [TS]

00:00:37   Rican mountain road John Roderick for [TS]

00:00:41   quantum Aeronautics and never have a [TS]

00:00:44   feeling like you really need to reach [TS]

00:00:45   your destination so I'm sitting here and [TS]

00:00:48   I'm you know I'm simultaneously agitated [TS]

00:00:52   and excited yeah but also you [TS]

00:00:56   oh yes cramping and you know one foot is [TS]

00:01:02   going through and if you're still eating [TS]

00:01:04   the glutens how much worse that would be [TS]

00:01:06   it's a lot to ask your body did [TS]

00:01:08   it's a deal with write it right away and [TS]

00:01:10   last night the last thing I ate before I [TS]

00:01:12   went to bed with it was a bunch of [TS]

00:01:14   indian food so I have so much to say [TS]

00:01:20   about this [TS]

00:01:21   yeah that's that's funny you should say [TS]

00:01:23   that this is a terrific topic [TS]

00:01:25   um yeah I woke up and I you know I had a [TS]

00:01:31   good night's sleep i got up and my part [TS]

00:01:35   too if you like is that I had two small [TS]

00:01:38   cups of espresso they were not large but [TS]

00:01:41   they were pretty intense demitasse yeah [TS]

00:01:43   and actually one of things I want to [TS]

00:01:45   talk to you about is a new workflow that [TS]

00:01:47   I've been doing that's really a bad idea [TS]

00:01:50   oh yeah but I love what you're about bad [TS]

00:01:54   new workflow yeah well it's about time [TS]

00:01:56   lifehack i am well first I have [TS]

00:01:59   something on my list i want to share [TS]

00:02:00   with you which is that i have discovered [TS]

00:02:03   a brand of canned chili that I like wait [TS]

00:02:07   a minute hold the presses [TS]

00:02:09   yeah lay it on me well the problem is i [TS]

00:02:13   want [TS]

00:02:13   it suggests should we should we as men [TS]

00:02:15   responsible for podcast yes up and I the [TS]

00:02:18   problem is my workflow I don't know how [TS]

00:02:20   this happens but i have had my first [TS]

00:02:22   dinner at night and with my family and [TS]

00:02:25   then nigga you know they go off to sleep [TS]

00:02:26   and I'm sitting there you send them off [TS]

00:02:28   to send them off site thanks thanks for [TS]

00:02:30   your time [TS]

00:02:31   huh well we'll circle back in the [TS]

00:02:33   morning and then I go and I watch you [TS]

00:02:35   know whatever is on TV on my version of [TS]

00:02:37   TV so I'm sitting there and watching [TS]

00:02:39   homeland and say hmm you know it's 1024 [TS]

00:02:43   long time since my last dinner at his [TS]

00:02:46   first dinner and then I think I think [TS]

00:02:48   you know it's a way to myself I should [TS]

00:02:50   have a little snack and I this is part [TS]

00:02:52   of the workflow the part of the workflow [TS]

00:02:53   is deceiving myself into thinking maybe [TS]

00:02:56   I'll have a piece that maybe have half a [TS]

00:02:57   piece of fruit [TS]

00:02:58   aight or maybe you know maybe I could I [TS]

00:03:01   could have something that we very simple [TS]

00:03:02   it wouldn't make dishes i think one [TS]

00:03:04   slice of frozen bacon and then I see the [TS]

00:03:08   collection of wolf brand can chili [TS]

00:03:11   staring me in the face [TS]

00:03:12   wolf brand apart into a bowl and about a [TS]

00:03:15   hundred and eighteen seconds later i'm [TS]

00:03:17   literally eating a can of chili at [TS]

00:03:19   ten-twenty of name and I can eat the [TS]

00:03:21   whole thing if there's leftover rice [TS]

00:03:22   leftover noodles leftover anything i'll [TS]

00:03:25   put it over leftover chili I don't [TS]

00:03:26   fucking care of course I'm sitting there [TS]

00:03:28   I'm sitting there watching watching [TS]

00:03:30   television in Chile 1020 right now that [TS]

00:03:34   that's the part 1 because the part two [TS]

00:03:35   is gonna get up in the morning and i [TS]

00:03:37   have two espressos sure so you're still [TS]

00:03:39   our there's a lot to talk about here for [TS]

00:03:41   sure your powered by yesterday's chili [TS]

00:03:44   and then you put some you put like [TS]

00:03:46   high-octane fuel right on top of that [TS]

00:03:48   but I mean like if it's almost like a [TS]

00:03:50   little kid science class we first make [TS]

00:03:52   the baking soda volcanoes you know what [TS]

00:03:54   I mean it's like baking soda before bed [TS]

00:03:56   a nice nice nice big cup of vinegar in [TS]

00:03:58   the more ya outside of Krakatoa I at a [TS]

00:04:02   certain point in the in the you know in [TS]

00:04:06   the in the pump chili years I got very [TS]

00:04:10   suspicious of what was in canned chili [TS]

00:04:13   such that even though in the course of [TS]

00:04:17   the typical day in modern life there are [TS]

00:04:20   25 different things you put in your body [TS]

00:04:23   where you cannot possibly know what [TS]

00:04:25   has gone on yeah and the more convenient [TS]

00:04:29   that food is the smaller the ingredients [TS]

00:04:32   are on the label and the lesson of care [TS]

00:04:33   right now you just need to get to the [TS]

00:04:35   next thing so yeah that's something on [TS]

00:04:36   your face [TS]

00:04:37   ok I'll eat this and you know it was [TS]

00:04:39   that it's probably its I mean definitely [TS]

00:04:40   some portion of this has been extruded [TS]

00:04:43   from an extruder but I'm gonna eat it [TS]

00:04:47   but chilly just just started to like [TS]

00:04:50   that I would stand in the grocery store [TS]

00:04:53   chili oil and I would look at these cans [TS]

00:04:56   of chili and it's been reading the back [TS]

00:04:58   i'm searching the label for clues and I [TS]

00:05:01   just started to feel like this [TS]

00:05:03   particular product it's too easy to [TS]

00:05:06   sneak 20-percent rodent hair all right [TS]

00:05:11   into this product it's just too easy as [TS]

00:05:15   they're cooking up this chilly for [TS]

00:05:16   everything to be in it and i got i can't [TS]

00:05:20   really stay get scared and it was it was [TS]

00:05:22   just like freaked out about it at you [TS]

00:05:26   know you get those little I don't have [TS]

00:05:27   to tell you you get a little thing on [TS]

00:05:29   the horizon you get a little point on a [TS]

00:05:31   little little spot on the vanishing [TS]

00:05:32   point who the just it's like somebody [TS]

00:05:34   standing there with a mirror in the hot [TS]

00:05:37   Sun you're like what is that / ah and so [TS]

00:05:41   I started going to the hippie store and [TS]

00:05:45   buying vegan chili which is taking its [TS]

00:05:51   healthy it's got to be there's got to be [TS]

00:05:53   good stuff in here right it's terrible [TS]

00:05:54   it's that it's it's awful but it is you [TS]

00:05:58   know i have discussed this i think [TS]

00:06:00   before it's a chilly base and then it's [TS]

00:06:03   got the beans got vegetables and it's [TS]

00:06:05   got some kind of fake meat in the form [TS]

00:06:08   of of soy a textured vegetable protein [TS]

00:06:12   can write yeah and then you know that I [TS]

00:06:15   throw a couple pounds of hamburger that [TS]

00:06:16   I have sourced and I feel like a beta i [TS]

00:06:20   feel like i made a kind of like workable [TS]

00:06:22   compromise but it means that chili is [TS]

00:06:25   now an involved process for me I can't [TS]

00:06:28   just go get because it can of this vegan [TS]

00:06:30   stuff we just pop it open at ten twenty [TS]

00:06:33   at night [TS]

00:06:34   throw it over some leftover rice your [TS]

00:06:37   spear really sad [TS]

00:06:39   Oh me I mean it completely changes the [TS]

00:06:41   equation because you might as well go [TS]

00:06:43   make a beef wellington [TS]

00:06:44   yes now now first of all you're making [TS]

00:06:46   dishes I don't like making dishes nope [TS]

00:06:47   and not a 10 out of 10 20 at night but I [TS]

00:06:50   hundred percent agree [TS]

00:06:51   I you know you got me into the idea of [TS]

00:06:53   canned chili a few years ago and i've [TS]

00:06:55   been i've been exploring it quietly on [TS]

00:06:57   my own and based on what's easy to get [TS]

00:06:59   because i don't want to go anything too [TS]

00:07:01   complicated obviously personally I don't [TS]

00:07:02   wanna go down the vegan chili right i [TS]

00:07:04   don't know browning meat it's 930 at [TS]

00:07:06   night [TS]

00:07:06   nope you know and you know what is [TS]

00:07:08   around that you could bring on that and [TS]

00:07:09   having your freezer sure but the thing [TS]

00:07:11   about wolf brand chili [TS]

00:07:13   mhm I I like it I like it in concept [TS]

00:07:17   there's a there's a little bit like wolf [TS]

00:07:19   brand it's a little bit on the nose [TS]

00:07:22   well but I feel like it if you are [TS]

00:07:25   endorsing wolf brand chili and you feel [TS]

00:07:27   like they're feel like they're high [TS]

00:07:29   quality of ingredients and I'm and a [TS]

00:07:31   minimum like a workable percentage of [TS]

00:07:35   like mice and rats that have fallen into [TS]

00:07:38   the machines [TS]

00:07:39   uh-huh then yes I mean stress probably a [TS]

00:07:42   Texas rounding error i don't think they [TS]

00:07:44   deliberately put a lot in but wash on [TS]

00:07:46   there just so this is a perfect topic so [TS]

00:07:48   many angles on this guy i was just [TS]

00:07:50   reading about different kinds of kin [TS]

00:07:52   chilies and i learned that i could get [TS]

00:07:53   the wolf chili which is one of those [TS]

00:07:54   like how like a fake cult food it's one [TS]

00:07:56   of those things like course kind of [TS]

00:07:58   thing where you can get outside [TS]

00:08:00   ah of course you were reading up on [TS]

00:08:04   canned chili that you never occurred to [TS]

00:08:06   me to do well yeah but let's let's take [TS]

00:08:08   a step back side can be there guys [TS]

00:08:10   bootleg wolf chili [TS]

00:08:12   well now i think i think Smokey and the [TS]

00:08:14   Bandit blue doors open and now you know [TS]

00:08:16   because of distribution improvements in [TS]

00:08:17   the internet you can get wolf chili [TS]

00:08:19   places now places like California but i [TS]

00:08:22   want to buy something you said which is [TS]

00:08:23   really true and I don't want to you know [TS]

00:08:24   go too far back into the pump chili [TS]

00:08:25   thing but it's worth repeating for new [TS]

00:08:27   people is that is if you think about the [TS]

00:08:29   18 not it's not food chain it's not a [TS]

00:08:31   pyramid but if you think about the idea [TS]

00:08:33   of like up here you got the couch and [TS]

00:08:35   grass that's kind of the canonical cow [TS]

00:08:37   and then at some point that cow gets [TS]

00:08:39   made up into different images muscles [TS]

00:08:40   get sliced up into different kinds of [TS]

00:08:42   cuts into oh well this is a fillet this [TS]

00:08:45   is a flat iron steak like this probably [TS]

00:08:47   not [TS]

00:08:48   surpassing number of sewing needles and [TS]

00:08:50   rat poop in this exotic meats yes [TS]

00:08:52   yeah but then it gets you further and [TS]

00:08:54   further down the line it's been sluice [TS]

00:08:56   more and more ways [TS]

00:08:57   pretty soon you got stuff like chicken [TS]

00:08:58   nuggets which are made out of all the [TS]

00:09:00   parts of chicken that we couldn't just [TS]

00:09:02   serve as a piece of chicken but we don't [TS]

00:09:03   throw it away right there's a guy in [TS]

00:09:05   knee-high boots [TS]

00:09:07   yep with a hose chicken boots with a [TS]

00:09:10   hose and he's spraying the chicken [TS]

00:09:13   nuggets parts into a hole in the floor [TS]

00:09:16   haha and then underneath that whole [TS]

00:09:19   floor there's some machine that's making [TS]

00:09:21   chicken nuggets [TS]

00:09:22   yes we're friends call that role the [TS]

00:09:24   hoser [TS]

00:09:25   I draw the line at that guy alright and [TS]

00:09:28   then on the other if you want to sit [TS]

00:09:30   down a different branch you've got [TS]

00:09:31   variety meats you've got all the [TS]

00:09:33   different pieces like when you go to go [TS]

00:09:35   to the grocery store you'll see like you [TS]

00:09:36   know not prominently displayed because [TS]

00:09:38   you know you can get the hood of the pig [TS]

00:09:40   you can get the snout of the pig was a [TS]

00:09:42   lot of folks in my neighborhood are [TS]

00:09:43   making that into food for the family [TS]

00:09:44   that's like a totally that's like a [TS]

00:09:45   normal thing but you know you're right [TS]

00:09:47   though the thing with chili is chili is [TS]

00:09:49   like the result of a board meeting [TS]

00:09:51   chilis like somebody said we got all of [TS]

00:09:54   this like Grady meet we're not sure what [TS]

00:09:58   to do with how could we use not too much [TS]

00:10:00   of that plus flavors to put stuff in a [TS]

00:10:02   can [TS]

00:10:03   yeah so I mean if you start from the [TS]

00:10:05   concept as Chile not as this great [TS]

00:10:07   country frontier food you know with [TS]

00:10:09   farm-to-table beef you start kind of [TS]

00:10:11   reverse engineer your chili you're going [TS]

00:10:12   to realize there's a lot of stuff in [TS]

00:10:14   there that's based on like financial [TS]

00:10:16   expediency [TS]

00:10:17   well it's true but I had a very [TS]

00:10:19   interesting conversation about a school [TS]

00:10:21   year and a half ago with my good friend [TS]

00:10:24   Kurt timber meister I've ever introduce [TS]

00:10:27   you to Curt timber meister I don't think [TS]

00:10:28   I know Curt Curt timber meister a is a [TS]

00:10:31   is a man of certain age and he used to [TS]

00:10:35   own a cafe in seattle called the cafe [TS]

00:10:38   city M which was kind of French food but [TS]

00:10:42   done in the style of the early nineties [TS]

00:10:45   which is to say you know he had chili [TS]

00:10:47   key lays on his menu it wasn't like it [TS]

00:10:50   wasn't authentically French it was [TS]

00:10:53   French ish [TS]

00:10:54   dude who and that was a cafe that i [TS]

00:10:57   spent sometimes five days a week in I [TS]

00:11:00   would just go I'd sit the sit at a table [TS]

00:11:02   it was you know back when you could [TS]

00:11:04   smoke in a cafe so I would sit in the [TS]

00:11:06   back and I would smoke and drink coffee [TS]

00:11:07   and then I would have food and people [TS]

00:11:09   would come visit with me my friends were [TS]

00:11:11   there i would sometimes get mail there [TS]

00:11:13   it was like what my little home pad [TS]

00:11:16   thank you like a little like a Pacific [TS]

00:11:17   Northwest Hemingway yeah what he was [TS]

00:11:20   able to court [TS]

00:11:21   there was no drinking there's no alcohol [TS]

00:11:22   drinking it was post alcohol times but [TS]

00:11:26   um but it wasn't yet all day long you [TS]

00:11:29   could sit in there and been and and that [TS]

00:11:31   the constituency would turn over a [TS]

00:11:34   couple of times in the morning you have [TS]

00:11:35   your morning friends and then the [TS]

00:11:37   afternoon friends would come in and then [TS]

00:11:39   you could even take it into the evening [TS]

00:11:40   friends just in this one place anyway at [TS]

00:11:43   a certain point at the end of the [TS]

00:11:44   nineties curtain burmeister decided that [TS]

00:11:47   he had was fed up with running a cafe [TS]

00:11:50   fed up with Broadway and he took his he [TS]

00:11:53   sold his business he took the money he [TS]

00:11:55   took the ferry boat over to Vashon [TS]

00:11:57   Island which is the hippie island off [TS]

00:12:00   the off the coast of Seattle here and he [TS]

00:12:03   bought himself fifty or a hundred acres [TS]

00:12:05   of farm and there was a little old cabin [TS]

00:12:09   on it and he started to he got a couple [TS]

00:12:13   of cows you got a couple of pigs got [TS]

00:12:15   some chickens and he started to be a [TS]

00:12:17   gentleman farmer and a certain point he [TS]

00:12:21   started having a dinner at his house [TS]

00:12:24   where the premise was he he invited the [TS]

00:12:28   first group of people to the dinner and [TS]

00:12:30   then the subsequent dinner you had to be [TS]

00:12:33   either a member of that first group or [TS]

00:12:36   recommended by somebody in the first [TS]

00:12:38   group who write it became a kind of like [TS]

00:12:41   pyramid scheme of guests where you had [TS]

00:12:44   to be somehow connected to somebody who [TS]

00:12:48   already been at the dinner [TS]

00:12:50   IDK yet actually come with them i think [TS]

00:12:52   you have to be their guest and [TS]

00:12:55   everything at the dinner [TS]

00:12:57   Curt grew on his own property [TS]

00:13:00   Wow except for the coffee the sugar the [TS]

00:13:04   salt and the wheat and [TS]

00:13:07   think and he tried to source those [TS]

00:13:09   things from within 30 miles of Vashon [TS]

00:13:13   Island anyway it became a very early one [TS]

00:13:18   of these it was like one of the first of [TS]

00:13:20   these events where everything that were [TS]

00:13:23   eating at the table is y unos communal [TS]

00:13:26   style meal everything it was made here [TS]

00:13:29   like actually grazed here on this farm [TS]

00:13:31   so we know exactly know everything that [TS]

00:13:34   these cows have ever eaten and then the [TS]

00:13:36   milk and the cheese we made from you [TS]

00:13:39   know that it's all from that these same [TS]

00:13:40   cows and considerate center like and it [TS]

00:13:43   was it was a it became as you can [TS]

00:13:46   imagine a really understand it must be a [TS]

00:13:49   hot ticket [TS]

00:13:49   it was a hot ticket and and so at a [TS]

00:13:52   certain point it got out of control and [TS]

00:13:54   Kurt started making people write essays [TS]

00:13:56   to see if they can you know like it [TS]

00:13:58   because because he would announce a [TS]

00:13:59   dinner there were hundreds or 50 seats [TS]

00:14:02   at the table and their be 5,000 people [TS]

00:14:04   wanting to go a lot of work [TS]

00:14:06   yeah so it became it became a lot of [TS]

00:14:08   work and eventually he stopped doing [TS]

00:14:09   that now he does now he's just making [TS]

00:14:14   artisanal cheeses and selling them in [TS]

00:14:17   any edges he's opening a little store [TS]

00:14:19   here in Seattle where he just sells his [TS]

00:14:20   artisanal cheese but I what the heck was [TS]

00:14:27   i have the the provenance of chili [TS]

00:14:30   alright so I'm on a radio program at one [TS]

00:14:33   point about a year and a half ago and [TS]

00:14:36   we're talking about the gray that gray [TS]

00:14:41   beef that was on the cause celeb a year [TS]

00:14:45   or two ago [TS]

00:14:46   you know what i'm talking about the OPA [TS]

00:14:49   think pink slime pink slime time I shall [TS]

00:14:53   gosh am talking about pink slime on the [TS]

00:14:55   radio and the its public radio so the [TS]

00:14:58   public radio of this Luke no it's not [TS]

00:15:01   Luke Luke is hardly public radio this is [TS]

00:15:03   like actual like Public Radio so that is [TS]

00:15:06   what is that where the public has a [TS]

00:15:09   component in it it's not just look [TS]

00:15:11   burbank talking [TS]

00:15:13   and the host says what pink slime am i [TS]

00:15:19   right am i right [TS]

00:15:21   nobody likes pink slime the worst let's [TS]

00:15:24   go to let's go to euchre temper meister [TS]

00:15:26   a gentleman farmer legendary sort of [TS]

00:15:29   epicurean and you know natural food [TS]

00:15:33   advocate how do you feel about pink [TS]

00:15:35   slime pretty bad right and kurta my [TS]

00:15:38   stream and I respect greatly said [TS]

00:15:41   actually if i had the technology to [TS]

00:15:44   create pink slime we're on our farm i [TS]

00:15:49   would do it in a second and you could [TS]

00:15:52   hear across the attal the collective [TS]

00:15:54   gasp of all the people who were like [TS]

00:15:58   what our hero curtain burmeister pink [TS]

00:16:01   slime and he said listen there's nothing [TS]

00:16:03   about pink slime that you're not eating [TS]

00:16:06   already it's just all the parts of the [TS]

00:16:09   cow that you can't scrape off [TS]

00:16:14   I mean you know if I could sit with an [TS]

00:16:15   exacto knife and scrape all the little [TS]

00:16:17   bits of beef out of all the little [TS]

00:16:19   corners it's just saying it's just the [TS]

00:16:23   beef that was right next to the beef [TS]

00:16:25   that we cut off like a natural result of [TS]

00:16:28   peak beef like you can't afford to waste [TS]

00:16:30   any of this week we could use this for [TS]

00:16:32   something [TS]

00:16:33   yeah right look look look at photos here [TS]

00:16:35   of it and it looks it is pink and [TS]

00:16:38   extruded and it looks kind of like so [TS]

00:16:41   it's all those pieces they did where the [TS]

00:16:42   slurry it all together and then it comes [TS]

00:16:44   out like soft-serve I guess they boil [TS]

00:16:46   the boil the cow or somehow they get [TS]

00:16:49   that look those little bits out whom [TS]

00:16:51   they much it all together and it becomes [TS]

00:16:53   a kind of toothpaste of liking of beef [TS]

00:16:57   but Kurt a guy that you know that i [TS]

00:17:01   would expect if he had if he had real [TS]

00:17:03   issues with pink slime he would you know [TS]

00:17:07   he'd be all over it was it wasn't it was [TS]

00:17:09   a softball pitch to him and he was like [TS]

00:17:12   listen as a farmer as somebody who like [TS]

00:17:14   routinely butchers a cow and feels [TS]

00:17:18   pretty bad about all of the stuff that [TS]

00:17:21   just goes into dog food [TS]

00:17:24   like if I could scrape all that stuff [TS]

00:17:26   off and put in Chile I would do it and [TS]

00:17:28   it's not bad for you and it's not you [TS]

00:17:30   know it's it's not i think i think it [TS]

00:17:32   gets bad when you start bleaching it and [TS]

00:17:35   colouring it and yeah i mean if the the [TS]

00:17:38   i would say the main beef if you like [TS]

00:17:39   with pink slime would be that you're not [TS]

00:17:41   sure what parts came it came from wells [TS]

00:17:43   in there and you get into the Mad Cow [TS]

00:17:44   thing where if you've got a whole bunch [TS]

00:17:45   of different cows from different places [TS]

00:17:47   imagine to make pink slime with [TS]

00:17:49   economies of scale you're gonna have to [TS]

00:17:51   have counter is there's going to be [TS]

00:17:53   brains in there there's going to be [TS]

00:17:54   eyelashes I mean that's not stuff that I [TS]

00:17:56   want [TS]

00:17:56   ok but it's very hard for me living in [TS]

00:17:59   an industrial society to know where to [TS]

00:18:02   draw the line [TS]

00:18:03   oh yeah because you know you go to [TS]

00:18:05   places like for instance up here in the [TS]

00:18:07   northwest we have a thing called taco [TS]

00:18:08   time which is a chain but it's a night [TS]

00:18:12   it's a nice chain i said i said i [TS]

00:18:15   described taco time as fast food to my [TS]

00:18:18   mom the other day and she was offended [TS]

00:18:20   she was like taco times not fast food is [TS]

00:18:22   it like an in-and-out burger thing [TS]

00:18:24   yeah yes it's precisely that it's a it's [TS]

00:18:27   a higher cut of a fast-food mhm but [TS]

00:18:32   they've got 25 locations or something [TS]

00:18:35   like that they are not they are not [TS]

00:18:37   petting and cooing to their cows and [TS]

00:18:40   calling them by name as they lead them [TS]

00:18:42   into into like a lavender scented [TS]

00:18:45   abattoir they're buying beef on the [TS]

00:18:49   market you know and you're and you are [TS]

00:18:51   dependent on somebody up the up the food [TS]

00:18:54   chain that you didn't that you never met [TS]

00:18:55   that guy in the boots with the hose was [TS]

00:18:59   like well you know do we throw do we do [TS]

00:19:02   we throw the eyelashes away or do we put [TS]

00:19:04   them in the pan burger [TS]

00:19:06   uh-huh well I've tried to in my [TS]

00:19:10   experimenting with the different chilies [TS]

00:19:11   i am a little bit of a label reader [TS]

00:19:14   mhm and I mean just on the face of it [TS]

00:19:16   was the other one the other brand that [TS]

00:19:18   I've been getting that's like okay good [TS]

00:19:20   well first of all I mean let's be honest [TS]

00:19:22   like on the face of it you look at [TS]

00:19:23   canned chili and i haven't had a dog and [TS]

00:19:26   a pretty long time but you know I think [TS]

00:19:28   if you dumped out a thing of dogs you [TS]

00:19:30   know i'm thinking the seventies dog food [TS]

00:19:31   so i might already be on the wrong page [TS]

00:19:33   but I mean if you dumped out what I [TS]

00:19:34   remember canned dog food [TS]

00:19:36   me like you dumped that out and then [TS]

00:19:38   dumped out you know even premium canned [TS]

00:19:40   chili next to it I i wonder how [TS]

00:19:42   different they look [TS]

00:19:43   yeah yeah they're not even adult food [TS]

00:19:45   that's true that's true then might be [TS]

00:19:48   eyelashes but like with this I mean like [TS]

00:19:49   for example was the other brand I've [TS]

00:19:51   been getting 12 beginning for a while [TS]

00:19:53   that's really easy to get is checking my [TS]

00:19:58   online grocery shopping list here [TS]

00:20:00   stags a stag yes which is you know which [TS]

00:20:04   is fine but you know the first [TS]

00:20:05   ingredient is water [TS]

00:20:07   you know I think the second ingredient [TS]

00:20:09   is you know the thing is the meat [TS]

00:20:11   doesn't show up for her blanket but you [TS]

00:20:16   know the first the first ingredient on [TS]

00:20:18   the on the on the wolf chili is you know [TS]

00:20:21   meat is that right yeah that crazy i [TS]

00:20:23   don't see how that's even possible but [TS]

00:20:25   it's got chunks and it's got ground and [TS]

00:20:27   you know I'm sure I'm sure the process [TS]

00:20:28   of making that is is horrific but uh but [TS]

00:20:31   but I enjoy it [TS]

00:20:32   I i think it's i think it's good i mean [TS]

00:20:34   it's canned chili we expect you know you [TS]

00:20:36   know a lot of our listeners a lot of our [TS]

00:20:38   listeners to this program are in foreign [TS]

00:20:41   countries like Australia New Zealand [TS]

00:20:43   just that right [TS]

00:20:44   the United Kingdom and although our [TS]

00:20:48   neighbors to the north in Canada listen [TS]

00:20:50   to the program we share a culture with [TS]

00:20:52   them [TS]

00:20:53   the Canadians are Canadians have great [TS]

00:20:56   plains they have cowboys they have chili [TS]

00:20:59   but I'm i wonder if Chile particularly [TS]

00:21:05   canned chili is the thing that they have [TS]

00:21:07   in Germany or the united kingdom [TS]

00:21:11   that's a good question people may be [TS]

00:21:12   listening to this program and scratching [TS]

00:21:14   their heads and going we've been talking [TS]

00:21:15   about Chilean awful lot because you know [TS]

00:21:18   I remember the first time I went to the [TS]

00:21:20   United Kingdom and i ordered a root beer [TS]

00:21:22   this is a long time ago and nobody knew [TS]

00:21:27   what i was talking about and finally [TS]

00:21:28   some guy leaned over and he was like [TS]

00:21:30   listen mate he said in an English accent [TS]

00:21:34   said listen root beer is another North [TS]

00:21:37   American thing we don't have it here we [TS]

00:21:40   make it tastes gross it tastes like [TS]

00:21:42   medicine who was like tastes like [TS]

00:21:44   medicine [TS]

00:21:45   nothing to talk to somebody from the UK [TS]

00:21:47   that root beer is amazing are you [TS]

00:21:49   kidding me with you people don't know [TS]

00:21:50   what this is back when you couldn't even [TS]

00:21:52   get a you couldn't find a taco in all of [TS]

00:21:54   Europe but I was like root beer you [TS]

00:21:57   gotta get hip to repair their like now [TS]

00:21:58   we've had it with you know it [TS]

00:22:00   there are places that are like you've [TS]

00:22:02   got a drink American root beer and it's [TS]

00:22:04   a whole thing it's kind of like you know [TS]

00:22:05   fish and chips or whatever inc you know [TS]

00:22:08   like that the weird export and no one in [TS]

00:22:12   the United Kingdom liked it so then [TS]

00:22:14   accept fast forward several years I was [TS]

00:22:16   there on to her and I was staying I'm [TS]

00:22:21   staying with the weather a good friend [TS]

00:22:23   who lives there and he said as we're [TS]

00:22:24   driving back to his house he was like [TS]

00:22:25   listen mate I've got some I got a big [TS]

00:22:29   surprise for you and I was like really [TS]

00:22:30   tell me more and he said I got you some [TS]

00:22:33   root beer I know how much you like it [TS]

00:22:35   and i actually was excited when I got [TS]

00:22:39   back to his place and there and he had [TS]

00:22:41   root beer and it was honestly called [TS]

00:22:43   something like American root beer USA [TS]

00:22:46   style American root beer and I drank it [TS]

00:22:50   and it tasted like medicine it was [TS]

00:22:51   terrible [TS]

00:22:52   it tastes like cough syrup interesting [TS]

00:22:54   but they haven't haven't gotten the good [TS]

00:22:56   stuff because like what is the matter [TS]

00:22:57   with you guys you don't like oh you come [TS]

00:23:00   over to America I know English people [TS]

00:23:03   have been to America you surely have had [TS]

00:23:05   a hires root beer [TS]

00:23:07   it's just a simple canned like we can [TS]

00:23:09   ship it to you if if if you're too [TS]

00:23:12   confused I've never had a decent root [TS]

00:23:15   beer in in Europe in the in all the [TS]

00:23:19   years that's weird [TS]

00:23:21   and when I talk about it together now [TS]

00:23:22   maybe that's changed in the last four [TS]

00:23:24   years and maybe there's been a root beer [TS]

00:23:26   revolution and everybody that's [TS]

00:23:27   listening to this podcast that's 25 [TS]

00:23:29   years old is like what are you talking [TS]

00:23:30   about mate love an American rape ya [TS]

00:23:32   route Barry kidding me that we've always [TS]

00:23:34   had it but the truth is no they have no [TS]

00:23:37   roof you're there and I can be I don't [TS]

00:23:39   even I can't even imagine what's going [TS]

00:23:41   on in Australia there they probably [TS]

00:23:43   flavor it with scorpions for something [TS]

00:23:45   we're in New Zealand man that changed [TS]

00:23:47   the way I think about bacon you know [TS]

00:23:49   we're over here they they call what [TS]

00:23:51   we've got here streaky bacon continue [TS]

00:23:53   their beacons like ham and it's good [TS]

00:23:55   it's real good i like Irish bacon too [TS]

00:23:57   but the the bacon I got in New Zealand I [TS]

00:23:59   be [TS]

00:24:00   you know what I wasn't eating at [TS]

00:24:01   McDonald's where they have the best [TS]

00:24:02   mcdonalds in the world i was seriously a [TS]

00:24:04   cut above the mcdonalds is a streaky [TS]

00:24:06   bacon my college class turkey bacon this [TS]

00:24:08   is the junk we here and like I don't [TS]

00:24:09   want you know when i try to buy like a [TS]

00:24:10   halfway decent bacon and it's just a big [TS]

00:24:12   piece of fat [TS]

00:24:13   yes it's a mean like that as that that [TS]

00:24:15   much higher up the food chain than a [TS]

00:24:16   wolf chili when I will have in Romania [TS]

00:24:19   when you get bacon it's just fast it's [TS]

00:24:24   just the rind and they eat it kind of [TS]

00:24:28   like raw ish we not not really cooked [TS]

00:24:34   down because you know if you cook though [TS]

00:24:36   if you cook the ride down it just you [TS]

00:24:38   cook it down the stairs so you'll show [TS]

00:24:41   up at somebody's house and they'll be [TS]

00:24:42   like you know they'll give you a little [TS]

00:24:43   appetizer or you or you go into a [TS]

00:24:45   restaurant and bacon is on the menu and [TS]

00:24:48   you order it and it's just the fatty [TS]

00:24:49   ride that you're meant to kind of sit [TS]

00:24:51   and chew on our-our-our this for fatty [TS]

00:24:55   right at one point I was talking to a [TS]

00:24:57   guy and I said hey what's the deal [TS]

00:24:58   what's the deal with your bacon like if [TS]

00:25:01   you could you just move the knife over a [TS]

00:25:04   little bit you'll get nice to get some [TS]

00:25:07   meat on there and he thought about it [TS]

00:25:10   for a little while and he said the [TS]

00:25:14   American pigs have have meat on their [TS]

00:25:19   bacon but romanian pigs don't i don't [TS]

00:25:24   have any like a life of leisure they [TS]

00:25:26   don't have me on the record no and then [TS]

00:25:27   I got developed it was the opposite he [TS]

00:25:29   felt he felt it was it was clear to me [TS]

00:25:32   that this guy was a butcher at was a a [TS]

00:25:34   poet and not a butcher and did not [TS]

00:25:36   understand that you know that yes [TS]

00:25:38   romanian pigs also had meat it was he [TS]

00:25:41   was expressing he was expressing a sort [TS]

00:25:43   of collective inferiority complex of his [TS]

00:25:46   nation that he was sure that the bet [TS]

00:25:49   that the answer to my question was that [TS]

00:25:51   Romanian pigs didn't have as much meat [TS]

00:25:53   because they were they were you know [TS]

00:25:56   lesser lesser pigs how bet that chili I [TS]

00:26:00   mean chili definitely seems like a what [TS]

00:26:03   Southwestern regional version but look [TS]

00:26:05   of a certain kind of food like a goulash [TS]

00:26:07   kind of food that you can get lots of [TS]

00:26:09   places maybe it's a kind of goulash when [TS]

00:26:11   you say [TS]

00:26:11   I would have would the the addition of [TS]

00:26:14   beans is is the thing like if you put [TS]

00:26:18   beans in goulash in Hungary they would [TS]

00:26:23   be I think upset they would be mad [TS]

00:26:26   that's not canonical I don't know I'm [TS]

00:26:28   it's going to be interesting to hear i'm [TS]

00:26:29   sure we're going to get lots of the [TS]

00:26:31   replies from our help people reply to us [TS]

00:26:34   we don't have an email address you know [TS]

00:26:36   I suggested to you the the other day [TS]

00:26:37   that we do a reader mail but then we [TS]

00:26:40   have to we have to have email you know [TS]

00:26:42   what here's what I'll do I'll go in and [TS]

00:26:44   I'll go into the content management [TS]

00:26:45   system and i will make it very easy for [TS]

00:26:47   people to contact you [TS]

00:26:49   haha can you imagine that the reader [TS]

00:26:52   mail that we would get I think people [TS]

00:26:55   will find a way to contact you no matter [TS]

00:26:57   what [TS]

00:26:57   yeah when you ask them to contact you [TS]

00:26:59   they will stay will surely contact you [TS]

00:27:01   I have so many things to ask of our [TS]

00:27:04   listeners but i never do I never depart [TS]

00:27:06   partly it's because because I feel like [TS]

00:27:08   a university we could do the opposite of [TS]

00:27:11   our listeners male we should just we [TS]

00:27:14   should just get send them little male a [TS]

00:27:16   grown-up you should individual just ask [TS]

00:27:18   rhetorical questions in an aha ok i [TS]

00:27:21   pulled up just quickly close this thread [TS]

00:27:22   excited yeah I gotta get the ingredients [TS]

00:27:25   first a guy got the ingredients for wolf [TS]

00:27:27   and they're young they're both pretty [TS]

00:27:29   good [TS]

00:27:30   the wolf so and as we know here in the [TS]

00:27:33   states the ingredients go in the order [TS]

00:27:35   of how would you describe it what [TS]

00:27:37   there's the most of in it sure is not [TS]

00:27:39   for eating green one that's a good thing [TS]

00:27:40   I'm they're probably people who don't [TS]

00:27:42   know that that that's the first [TS]

00:27:43   ingredient you see is what there is the [TS]

00:27:44   most of by I guess mass right and a lot [TS]

00:27:48   of times that is sugar or water water [TS]

00:27:51   and sugar [TS]

00:27:52   yea high fructose corn syrup know so so [TS]

00:27:56   so for the stagg chili number one [TS]

00:27:58   ingredient water now number two beef [TS]

00:28:00   number three tomatoes for beans number 5 [TS]

00:28:04   kidney beans so I guess those are [TS]

00:28:06   technically beans [TS]

00:28:07   I don't know tomato paste hydrated [TS]

00:28:08   onions not too bad all the way down the [TS]

00:28:10   line you end up with bell peppers and [TS]

00:28:11   spices wolf chili number one ingredient [TS]

00:28:14   meet ingredients / n beef comma pork [TS]

00:28:17   number two [TS]

00:28:18   diced tomatoes in juice number three [TS]

00:28:20   prepared pink beans b-stock green bell [TS]

00:28:24   peppers tomato puree onions [TS]

00:28:25   I'm pretty certain they get less than [TS]

00:28:27   you go down to the less than 2% of you [TS]

00:28:29   got soy flour salt flavor and sugar [TS]

00:28:32   right but you know first ingredient meet [TS]

00:28:35   that's pretty good [TS]

00:28:36   that is good and uh he didn't say [TS]

00:28:40   eyelashes anywhere on there that might [TS]

00:28:41   be the two percent but you know the [TS]

00:28:43   thing is what I was a you know I was [TS]

00:28:45   waiting for you to finish your job your [TS]

00:28:47   activities earlier i was reading up arm [TS]

00:28:50   look at wikipedia and learning about [TS]

00:28:51   wolf chili they used to have a Model T [TS]

00:28:53   you can look this up is a wonderful [TS]

00:28:56   hilarious silly wikipedia entry they had [TS]

00:29:00   a Model T that where they made it like a [TS]

00:29:02   fake and it looks like like like the [TS]

00:29:03   wienermobile before going over there we [TS]

00:29:05   have a big can of chili and right behind [TS]

00:29:07   the big can get a wolf in a cage and [TS]

00:29:10   then we drive around a Model T with fake [TS]

00:29:12   and chili and a wolf while it on the [TS]

00:29:15   nose but pretty amusing that is amusing [TS]

00:29:17   but that would knock them dead at a [TS]

00:29:19   County Fair imagine to take them on the [TS]

00:29:21   road how complicated that would be you [TS]

00:29:23   have to like get gas like maintain the [TS]

00:29:24   model t make sure the can was up to [TS]

00:29:26   snuff and owned by the way to deal with [TS]

00:29:27   a wolf [TS]

00:29:28   you know the thing about a wolf is [TS]

00:29:33   speaking as somebody who's been [TS]

00:29:35   proximate to some wolves even wolves in [TS]

00:29:39   cages even wolves that are changed to a [TS]

00:29:42   cement floor when we really you are [TS]

00:29:48   I would play the DNG module of your life [TS]

00:29:50   at something when you are standing next [TS]

00:29:53   to a wall even a wolf chained to a [TS]

00:29:56   cement floor in a Cal Worthington for [TS]

00:29:58   auto dealership [TS]

00:30:02   the wolf is terrifying and and the you [TS]

00:30:07   are at energies are being communicated [TS]

00:30:10   to you and your body that are [TS]

00:30:12   prehistoric and you know in your in your [TS]

00:30:17   adult mind that the wolf cannot get you [TS]

00:30:19   but you are never ever ever so a aware [TS]

00:30:25   of of of being prey it was going to say [TS]

00:30:30   it's what what really that it is like [TS]

00:30:32   the canonical predator there's nothing [TS]

00:30:34   about a wolf that isn't predatory yeah [TS]

00:30:36   and and if you're if you're standing it [TS]

00:30:39   near a a bear of like a a wild bear i [TS]

00:30:45   even change a concrete floor and even if [TS]

00:30:48   it's changing economy forever if a [TS]

00:30:50   bear's change or concrete floor and he [TS]

00:30:51   could escape his chains all of a sudden [TS]

00:30:54   he would he would plow through some [TS]

00:30:57   people but his main goal would be like [TS]

00:31:00   get out right and if you're and I've [TS]

00:31:03   encountered quite a few bears in nature [TS]

00:31:06   and the bear unless the bear has no [TS]

00:31:10   other option really they just turn and [TS]

00:31:13   run like they don't even big bears they [TS]

00:31:17   just turn and run and those bears you [TS]

00:31:19   know the Bears that attack people in [TS]

00:31:20   Alaska it's almost always a case where [TS]

00:31:23   somebody is down at a salmon choked [TS]

00:31:27   fishing stream and they're plowing [TS]

00:31:29   through head high brush and they you [TS]

00:31:33   know they come in between a bear and [TS]

00:31:36   something else and it's just like he [TS]

00:31:39   even people who are aware of all the [TS]

00:31:42   dangerous you know they kind of like oh [TS]

00:31:44   shit i forgot my tool kit back in the [TS]

00:31:47   truck I'll be right back and they they [TS]

00:31:49   forget their precautions they don't make [TS]

00:31:51   enough noise they don't ring a bell or [TS]

00:31:53   whatever and I've run into bears like on [TS]

00:31:57   a trail where it's like here comes a [TS]

00:31:58   bear and here comes me and uh porcupine [TS]

00:32:03   in that situation will stand its ground [TS]

00:32:05   and and force you to move off the trail [TS]

00:32:10   as the while the porcupine walks along [TS]

00:32:13   right like a porcupine will face you [TS]

00:32:15   down but a bear will turn and split [TS]

00:32:18   right [TS]

00:32:19   nope but a wolf roof like a wolf in a [TS]

00:32:23   place like that with it broke its chains [TS]

00:32:26   it just gives you the feeling that it [TS]

00:32:28   would go around and personally shred [TS]

00:32:31   each person in the place on his way to [TS]

00:32:33   the door like clothes feel like that [TS]

00:32:35   like that like it like a imagine if like [TS]

00:32:37   you had like an arnold schwarzenegger [TS]

00:32:38   like a terminator but like in a group [TS]

00:32:41   that could communicate like wolves seem [TS]

00:32:43   to always have a plan for like Maximum [TS]

00:32:45   Destruction yeah yeah they're interested [TS]

00:32:48   you're trying to get away then [TS]

00:32:50   the that's what's amazing is like one [TS]

00:32:52   glancing blow from a bear could like [TS]

00:32:54   knock your car over there stood the [TS]

00:32:56   heads on those things are enormous [TS]

00:32:58   they're so strong but he's going to get [TS]

00:33:00   on with their thing they want to get out [TS]

00:33:01   of count Worthington's ford dealership [TS]

00:33:02   and just go back to their honey bunny or [TS]

00:33:03   whatever [TS]

00:33:04   Yeah Yeah Yeah right there not a wolf [TS]

00:33:06   the wolf is going to take out as many [TS]

00:33:07   people as you can [TS]

00:33:08   he's like a CIA agent I just yeah I feel [TS]

00:33:10   like I feel like driving around in a [TS]

00:33:12   Model T that's shaped like a can of [TS]

00:33:14   chili pulling a wolf in a cage you you [TS]

00:33:17   are every time you you pull over to get [TS]

00:33:20   gas [TS]

00:33:21   you're going to sit in the cabin that [TS]

00:33:22   car and you're gonna be like okay I'm [TS]

00:33:27   getting out now right and i'm gonna go [TS]

00:33:29   back and put gas in the car and the wolf [TS]

00:33:31   is going to be right there and he's [TS]

00:33:33   gonna be staring at him he's had [TS]

00:33:34   Johnny's had a lot of time to think he's [TS]

00:33:36   had a lot of time to work the angles did [TS]

00:33:38   you have to test the tensile strength of [TS]

00:33:40   the cage to look at that farcical lock [TS]

00:33:42   you have like with the bread ty holding [TS]

00:33:44   on [TS]

00:33:44   yeah he's sitting there and he's just [TS]

00:33:47   you know he's just staring at you while [TS]

00:33:48   you're pumping gas is just breathing [TS]

00:33:50   like oh just breathing fumes and he and [TS]

00:33:54   he's just thinking to himself like one [TS]

00:33:56   day motherfucker [TS]

00:33:57   one day one day you're gonna forget to [TS]

00:33:59   put that lock back on one day you're [TS]

00:34:02   gonna read in a region it's like it's [TS]

00:34:04   like how did Hannibal Lecter do it [TS]

00:34:06   diverged in for the keys or whatever and [TS]

00:34:08   all of a sudden he's played and hanging [TS]

00:34:10   up in the inside the cage and Hannibal [TS]

00:34:12   Lecter is wearing his skin and it's just [TS]

00:34:15   exactly what was thinking that exact [TS]

00:34:17   same shit just like he might drive [TS]

00:34:18   around like he's got a really long game [TS]

00:34:20   where he would actually learn to drive [TS]

00:34:22   from here to observe he would later the [TS]

00:34:24   skin of the wolf truck driver and go [TS]

00:34:27   around and just quietly slowly cause a [TS]

00:34:30   huge amount of very confusing [TS]

00:34:31   destruction [TS]

00:34:32   listen this is historically based think [TS]

00:34:34   about the wolves that that literally [TS]

00:34:37   where sheep's clothing they don't [TS]

00:34:40   literally bursting yeah the what you [TS]

00:34:42   think that's just some added shut that [TS]

00:34:44   was an analogy didn't you ever see the [TS]

00:34:45   clip the Bugs Bunny cartoon I'm sorry [TS]

00:34:50   you know it's we did we watch them on [TS]

00:34:52   the first chronicles of narnia movie [TS]

00:34:54   last night and it rejuvenated my my [TS]

00:34:56   extreme fear of wolves [TS]

00:34:58   yeah they're they're really scary and [TS]

00:35:01   this lab we should get the Coyotes you [TS]

00:35:02   get like this coyotes in Golden Gate [TS]

00:35:04   Park as coyotes in my neighborhood I see [TS]

00:35:06   them all the time like now what you [TS]

00:35:08   doing a wolf or coyote well a lot of [TS]

00:35:11   difference between a coyote looks like a [TS]

00:35:13   looks like a kind of wild dog face box [TS]

00:35:18   yeah like a big box like a like whenever [TS]

00:35:20   you see a coyote there's always like a [TS]

00:35:22   double-take triple take thing where [TS]

00:35:24   you're like that's weird dog that can be [TS]

00:35:26   like an Australian sheepdog or something [TS]

00:35:28   well yeah you know the thing about dogs [TS]

00:35:31   as i understand it is that we've bred [TS]

00:35:33   them into all these breeds for our [TS]

00:35:36   particular needs and for our friendship [TS]

00:35:39   and whatever other myths were telling [TS]

00:35:41   ourselves about dogs but if you take if [TS]

00:35:45   you take some dogs of everybody let's [TS]

00:35:48   say you take a like a miniature bulldog [TS]

00:35:51   and a shar-pei and a great day and a and [TS]

00:35:53   a husky and you let him run free and [TS]

00:35:58   they made with each other that first [TS]

00:36:00   generation of dogs will be pretty [TS]

00:36:02   weird-looking and then the second [TS]

00:36:04   generation of dogs will start to look [TS]

00:36:07   like all the same kind of like general [TS]

00:36:11   serve dog and then by the third [TS]

00:36:13   generation they will all have reverted [TS]

00:36:16   immediately reverted to that kind of [TS]

00:36:20   East African dog if you go online and [TS]

00:36:24   you look new google like one of those [TS]

00:36:26   like prototypical fucking dogs yeah [TS]

00:36:28   google ethiopian dog or something and [TS]

00:36:31   you're going to get this check sort of [TS]

00:36:33   yellow a dog with big ears that's got [TS]

00:36:38   like kind of long legs God and it just [TS]

00:36:41   looks like a just like it you heard dog [TS]

00:36:43   and if you leave dogs alone and just let [TS]

00:36:47   him meet with each other and don't [TS]

00:36:48   monkey with them it's only a few [TS]

00:36:52   generations before all that specialized [TS]

00:36:55   breeding is just wiped out and they're [TS]

00:36:57   back to her dog so a coyote is kind of a [TS]

00:37:01   like to me at least a variation on the [TS]

00:37:04   her dog and I think even maybe a little [TS]

00:37:06   bit smaller than ethiopian [TS]

00:37:08   her dog i found an infographic [TS]

00:37:10   discussing the differences between the [TS]

00:37:13   wolf and the coyote and it's pretty [TS]

00:37:15   clear the coyote looks like a big dog [TS]

00:37:17   yeah it's got the small nose pad narrow [TS]

00:37:18   snout long years with pointed tips the [TS]

00:37:20   wolf you got a large nose pad which is [TS]

00:37:22   super cute rod snout and the short years [TS]

00:37:26   with rounded tips and incredible [TS]

00:37:28   intelligence behind the eyes that is [TS]

00:37:31   coyote looks as they would say wiley but [TS]

00:37:34   the wolf looks fucking tough very tough [TS]

00:37:37   and very much bent on planning your [TS]

00:37:43   instruction Plata County was being kind [TS]

00:37:45   of in the mind of a jackal [TS]

00:37:47   yeah right yeah that's that that's close [TS]

00:37:49   to her dog and when I see coyotes in my [TS]

00:37:52   own neighborhood i am always like you [TS]

00:37:53   know you do catch your breath and go [TS]

00:37:55   like oh wow look at that anything was [TS]

00:37:57   just wild animals move give us [TS]

00:37:59   yes something really like the thing is [TS]

00:38:02   there's a dog out there the doctor just [TS]

00:38:03   be acting like a fucking dog and running [TS]

00:38:05   around being stupid right you'll see it [TS]

00:38:07   when you see like a coyote or even a [TS]

00:38:08   raccoon for that matter and they freeze [TS]

00:38:10   and they look at you and the way they [TS]

00:38:12   scurry away is is so chilling so chilly [TS]

00:38:16   yeah the the cut the coyote when he runs [TS]

00:38:18   he has that kind of loped that like cup [TS]

00:38:20   up top where they just have a confidence [TS]

00:38:24   they have a confidence that is that is [TS]

00:38:27   inspiring and when I go out for late [TS]

00:38:30   night walks in my neighborhood was late [TS]

00:38:34   night walks where I expect to be [TS]

00:38:35   covering some ground so I'd and so I [TS]

00:38:38   don't bring a seminar I do have my my [TS]

00:38:41   staff [TS]

00:38:42   let's call it my walking staff and I am [TS]

00:38:48   mindful uh because I that I'm much more [TS]

00:38:53   I'm much more worried that someone's [TS]

00:38:55   some asshole Rottweilers going to get [TS]

00:38:58   out [TS]

00:38:59   not the Rottweilers an asshole but some [TS]

00:39:02   assholes with Rottweiler anime [TS]

00:39:04   Rottweilers are very susceptible lets [TS]

00:39:07   the pickle problem I mean you know [TS]

00:39:08   proximity to assholes his dad for some [TS]

00:39:10   yards right and so i'll be walking [TS]

00:39:12   through this neighborhood and it's just [TS]

00:39:13   like and I know that there are some [TS]

00:39:15   assholes in this neighborhood and I know [TS]

00:39:17   that they have Rottweilers are pit bulls [TS]

00:39:18   and if I have one of them gets out and [TS]

00:39:20   this is and we just have one of these [TS]

00:39:21   encounters i need to be prepared to use [TS]

00:39:24   a combination of my staff and my wits [TS]

00:39:27   who and my SAS dagger roof to smoke [TS]

00:39:34   bombs you can throw and help you [TS]

00:39:35   disappear like that man i do to dispatch [TS]

00:39:39   this dog but when when I think about a [TS]

00:39:41   coyote [TS]

00:39:42   I'm I'm a hundred percent sure that no [TS]

00:39:44   coyote whatever attack me but I but you [TS]

00:39:48   know I I want to be prepared for like [TS]

00:39:50   what if you twist an ankle and fall down [TS]

00:39:52   a slope [TS]

00:39:53   oh and he brings a friend yeah and then [TS]

00:39:55   there's coyotes around and they're like [TS]

00:39:57   you know all the same your late-night [TS]

00:39:58   chili yeah you can't hear you [TS]

00:40:00   they can't hear you up on the highway [TS]

00:40:02   because the cars are two out and you're [TS]

00:40:03   down there and your senior staff is out [TS]

00:40:05   of reach that the role of Shaving throw [TS]

00:40:08   what the hell that's right what the hell [TS]

00:40:09   are you gonna do you know you need to be [TS]

00:40:11   prepared but that's what did I put that [TS]

00:40:14   cat I told you about this deny the cat [TS]

00:40:15   that we had in our backyard [TS]

00:40:17   I like an American cat well I i have to [TS]

00:40:20   say i'm pretty well kind of i'm kind of [TS]

00:40:22   fascinated by a semi domestic animals [TS]

00:40:25   that really probably are kind of a bad [TS]

00:40:28   idea to have around the obviously [TS]

00:40:30   someone's this tragic it's really tragic [TS]

00:40:31   what can happen when you when you get [TS]

00:40:33   the wrong kind of dog around the wrong [TS]

00:40:34   kind of people think for example about [TS]

00:40:36   how I guess with my daughter [TS]

00:40:38   we're like big dogs are not freaked out [TS]

00:40:41   by a child little dogs are very freaked [TS]

00:40:44   out by a child [TS]

00:40:45   yeah haven't you ever seen this but the [TS]

00:40:46   little dogs are very intimidated by [TS]

00:40:49   something that's kind of their size and [TS]

00:40:51   that's that's when you get bitten stop [TS]

00:40:52   big dogs could give a fucking good [TS]

00:40:53   writing they don't care but but now i [TS]

00:40:55   know we had a think it was about this we [TS]

00:40:57   had this weird situation worth suddenly [TS]

00:40:59   there was this huge we've been having a [TS]

00:41:02   lot of crows lately and I'm really [TS]

00:41:03   trying to keep my cool about it trying [TS]

00:41:05   to stay inside keep my face where they [TS]

00:41:08   can't see I'm kind of worried that [TS]

00:41:10   they're building a nest in our chimney [TS]

00:41:11   and my daughter has now started to she [TS]

00:41:13   knows how freaked out i am by crows and [TS]

00:41:15   she's been provoking me she's saying [TS]

00:41:16   look that one recognizes you [TS]

00:41:18   I'm like that's not even funny like [TS]

00:41:19   don't even joke like this is like a [TS]

00:41:21   phobia for me so women are you telling [TS]

00:41:22   me you don't go out and routinely say [TS]

00:41:24   ICU crow ICU [TS]

00:41:27   I mean I feel like I think the problem [TS]

00:41:30   is I don't know how much they've seen of [TS]

00:41:31   me that I'm not even aware [TS]

00:41:32   I don't want to seem to place citrus so [TS]

00:41:34   I don't want to be I don't want to be [TS]

00:41:36   like like paul reiser and aliens kind of [TS]

00:41:38   guy where they see me as having you know [TS]

00:41:40   the cross called a two-faced somebody on [TS]

00:41:42   the one hand like is not this is is [TS]

00:41:44   respectful at other times is not [TS]

00:41:46   respectful to our cruise I try to always [TS]

00:41:47   be respectful mainly I stay out of their [TS]

00:41:49   way to the first there's no crows and [TS]

00:41:52   then suddenly there's lots of crows [TS]

00:41:53   there's been eating like a member went [TS]

00:41:56   out it [TS]

00:41:56   yes I woke up this morning opened my [TS]

00:41:59   open my curtains looked out the window [TS]

00:42:02   at the two crows that were having a [TS]

00:42:03   conversation on the on the wire out [TS]

00:42:05   front of my window they both turned [TS]

00:42:07   their attention to me and I said to each [TS]

00:42:11   of them in turn ICU crow ICU crow and [TS]

00:42:16   they saw me and we like we understand [TS]

00:42:20   each other like like like respectful [TS]

00:42:23   mature predators do you guys have an [TS]

00:42:25   understanding [TS]

00:42:26   I think you have to do that over and [TS]

00:42:27   over again because yeah the memo does go [TS]

00:42:29   out and they are they know a lot more [TS]

00:42:31   about you than then you would be [TS]

00:42:32   comfortable John their science about [TS]

00:42:34   this is how there's actual science i [TS]

00:42:36   think it's probably true the raccoons as [TS]

00:42:38   well but anyhow I've been you know I [TS]

00:42:40   don't like to talk about it because you [TS]

00:42:42   never know I don't want people running [TS]

00:42:44   around trying to cross scare me but you [TS]

00:42:46   know there's been a lot of crows at our [TS]

00:42:48   house and we come home and walk my [TS]

00:42:50   daughter home from school and there will [TS]

00:42:51   be six crows just sitting on top of our [TS]

00:42:54   house where they can very easily and now [TS]

00:42:57   stop oh yeah yeah um as long as i'm at [TS]

00:43:00   this you know i might as well just get [TS]

00:43:01   it all out about four or five saturday [TS]

00:43:03   mornings ago I remember very [TS]

00:43:04   specifically I woke up I heard keep it [TS]

00:43:07   open and there's a kind of sound where [TS]

00:43:10   you go [TS]

00:43:11   that could be far away or close any kind [TS]

00:43:13   of sound where you go oh I'm hearing [TS]

00:43:16   that signal exactly without that's been [TS]

00:43:19   the wall then I'm here yep and I'm [TS]

00:43:21   hearing like the the plate reverb [TS]

00:43:23   version of that comeback outside it's [TS]

00:43:25   close its that the trip is coming from [TS]

00:43:27   inside the house [TS]

00:43:28   yeah and then some slain in bed thinking [TS]

00:43:30   okay no big deal no big deal temper [TS]

00:43:32   temper [TS]

00:43:33   jupiter mater apple and I'm like and [TS]

00:43:36   then Hatcher true trip and I as God is [TS]

00:43:40   my witness I was positive that there was [TS]

00:43:42   a bird that had gone through our chimney [TS]

00:43:44   landed in like where the fire goes part [TS]

00:43:46   of the chimney but in two weeks to have [TS]

00:43:49   the guts to go look and yes there was a [TS]

00:43:51   dead bird that had come down our chimney [TS]

00:43:54   Wow and had died in your fireplace [TS]

00:43:57   it looked yeah yeah yeah ooo yeah I [TS]

00:44:01   think it was injured or something it [TS]

00:44:02   might have been i look at its ok i just [TS]

00:44:04   swept into a bag and ran outside [TS]

00:44:06   screaming it was the worst idea on the [TS]

00:44:08   surface of saying that we have been [TS]

00:44:09   menaced by crows for a while and I've [TS]

00:44:11   known to keep my distance [TS]

00:44:12   it's a long story short I was at the [TS]

00:44:13   office and this happened while you are [TS]

00:44:15   recording a podcast actually a few weeks [TS]

00:44:16   ago but nobody but that dead bird in the [TS]

00:44:18   fireplace was not a crow I i don't think [TS]

00:44:21   that was really little I think was a [TS]

00:44:22   baby so I hope it didn't fall out of a [TS]

00:44:24   nest up there [TS]

00:44:25   ok but like our archenemy just goes [TS]

00:44:27   straight up I mean it's like a Santa [TS]

00:44:29   type situation it's in there is not [TS]

00:44:30   anything in between [TS]

00:44:32   so anyway I get it I get a photo from my [TS]

00:44:34   wife and she's like wow there's a lot of [TS]

00:44:36   crows outside this is well we're [TS]

00:44:38   podcasting remember are the few couples [TS]

00:44:40   guys kind of distracted and I told you [TS]

00:44:41   afterward this is why and they were like [TS]

00:44:43   literally like over a dozen crows [TS]

00:44:46   swarming in our backyard [TS]

00:44:48   I mean it was it was something like from [TS]

00:44:50   the Old Testament there was a fuck ton [TS]

00:44:52   of crows and they were squawkin and they [TS]

00:44:54   were mad someone special like that's [TS]

00:44:57   crazy and went great you know trigger [TS]

00:44:58   warning [TS]

00:44:59   hello can you just not send me a bunch [TS]

00:45:01   of crows in the backyard because i know [TS]

00:45:02   i'm going to come home and there's gonna [TS]

00:45:03   be problems and then she sent me another [TS]

00:45:05   photo she's like do you see a cat in the [TS]

00:45:08   tree and I was like what what and I went [TS]

00:45:11   and I look I'm talking to you I'm trying [TS]

00:45:12   to have a conversation like a grown-up [TS]

00:45:13   with you but I go and look and i zoom in [TS]

00:45:15   my hand to God there is a cat a really [TS]

00:45:17   super funky looking cat in the tree in [TS]

00:45:20   our backyard that is being menaced by [TS]

00:45:22   the crows [TS]

00:45:23   mmm i get another message that cat [TS]

00:45:26   apparently just went fucking hammer and [TS]

00:45:28   tongs on a nest full of baby crows it [TS]

00:45:30   has kro guts on its face its Licking [TS]

00:45:32   itself and the crows are losing it [TS]

00:45:35   Wow now flash forward a little bit I i [TS]

00:45:39   shared this with the internet I said can [TS]

00:45:40   you hear some photos could you tell me a [TS]

00:45:42   little bit about this cat and I found [TS]

00:45:43   out it's one of these monster cats its [TS]

00:45:46   habits a cross between a wildcat and a [TS]

00:45:48   domestic cat right what kind was it [TS]

00:45:51   called a Savannah cat yes I know the [TS]

00:45:53   savannah cats better be around Savannah [TS]

00:45:55   can I have I had a friend that had one [TS]

00:45:57   they're very freaky cats they're super [TS]

00:45:59   freaky and I got kind of a little bit [TS]

00:46:01   obsessed with the perfect all cats [TS]

00:46:03   because the first thing the freaking out [TS]

00:46:04   about it was that it climbed up a tree [TS]

00:46:06   even before you climb the tree and was [TS]

00:46:09   pretty calm about it it was just ok [TS]

00:46:10   being in a tree and being photographed [TS]

00:46:11   and then ate some crows and you noted [TS]

00:46:14   but it went down the tree it didn't a [TS]

00:46:15   fireman [TS]

00:46:16   it was fine it's like a fucking jungle [TS]

00:46:18   cat climb down the tree you have a wild [TS]

00:46:21   Savannah cat in your backyard who is [TS]

00:46:22   eating birds let's just what it feels [TS]

00:46:25   like it yeah and so I just went out and [TS]

00:46:27   you know is the internet about this and [TS]

00:46:28   we got it narrowed down to either a [TS]

00:46:30   bangle bangle your hat or a Savannah cat [TS]

00:46:33   or possibly this other kind but I'm [TS]

00:46:34   pretty positive it's the Savannah cat [TS]

00:46:36   which is like a cross between how do you [TS]

00:46:38   say the servile yeah servile a servile [TS]

00:46:40   and like a domestic cat and are you [TS]

00:46:42   ready for this you know what they cost [TS]

00:46:43   to 238 thousand dollars yeah yeah I know [TS]

00:46:46   there are big surprise there like there [TS]

00:46:49   are conjugate Kanye pipeline a pet and [TS]

00:46:52   here's another thing as I got more [TS]

00:46:53   obsessed and kept looking at this and [TS]

00:46:54   now i think this is a worthy adversary [TS]

00:46:55   for the crows because here's the thing [TS]

00:46:57   about 38,000 dollar house cat and it [TS]

00:47:00   will it knows its name [TS]

00:47:02   come on it is called and turns out you [TS]

00:47:05   can walk in on a leash [TS]

00:47:07   yeah yeah yeah no I know these I know [TS]

00:47:10   these cats you know the first time I was [TS]

00:47:12   in Telluride Colorado there was a woman [TS]

00:47:13   there just calmly could be walking down [TS]

00:47:16   the street with a mountain lion on a [TS]

00:47:18   leash telluride and that was a real [TS]

00:47:22   eye-opener how big he was didn't really [TS]

00:47:25   read as a fucking mountain lion it's as [TS]

00:47:27   big as a pittsburgh as a golden [TS]

00:47:28   retriever domestic can you make him not [TS]

00:47:31   at all i can't imagine it was [TS]

00:47:32   domesticated but this was one of these [TS]

00:47:34   women that was wearing like a navajo [TS]

00:47:36   coat and a and a wide brim like outback [TS]

00:47:41   style hat with a with a bunch of buckles [TS]

00:47:43   on it and so she had obviously a pretty [TS]

00:47:47   high opinion of herself and she had a [TS]

00:47:50   mountain lion on a leash and I just I [TS]

00:47:51   cross to the other side of the street I [TS]

00:47:53   was like as you do [TS]

00:47:55   the sidewalks are yours and she was kind [TS]

00:47:57   of a legendary character i guess in [TS]

00:47:59   Telluride for a while but yeah these [TS]

00:48:01   cats sometimes extremely colorful John [TS]

00:48:03   like it this tell you what [TS]

00:48:06   but these can you know they're like as [TS]

00:48:08   you as you move higher up the cat ladder [TS]

00:48:11   you get some smartass cats who but I [TS]

00:48:16   wouldn't trust a kamiak at those long [TS]

00:48:19   legged cats like the first word that I [TS]

00:48:20   did not want to use in describing a cat [TS]

00:48:22   is tall [TS]

00:48:24   I don't want to hear about at all cat I [TS]

00:48:27   don't want to see a tall cat and those [TS]

00:48:28   cats you know they can they walk in and [TS]

00:48:29   they've got coyote legs [TS]

00:48:31   oh they did that thing is these are [TS]

00:48:33   these animals lightly it's like we're [TS]

00:48:35   describing with the crows of the records [TS]

00:48:37   or whatever you can tell when an animal [TS]

00:48:38   is a domestic animal [TS]

00:48:39   yeah because it looks stupid yeah and it [TS]

00:48:42   looks like it wants to make you happy [TS]

00:48:43   for no particular reason or it looks low [TS]

00:48:45   key you can see because Candice dole [TS]

00:48:48   witness and you pull out the laser [TS]

00:48:50   pointer or you're playing little mouse [TS]

00:48:52   on our magic wand to make it entertain [TS]

00:48:54   you for a while [TS]

00:48:55   here's here's the thing that I [TS]

00:48:56   understand this is everything I know [TS]

00:48:57   about cats it basically in a sense is [TS]

00:48:59   that the way that we have cats in our [TS]

00:49:01   house that don't kill us the first [TS]

00:49:02   chance to get is that we keep them in [TS]

00:49:04   finalized you keep a cat kitten if you [TS]

00:49:07   never let a kitten get beyond kitten [TS]

00:49:09   this it will mostly be okay and not kill [TS]

00:49:11   you in your sleep [TS]

00:49:12   yeah and if you don't outdoor cat can [TS]

00:49:14   burn off a lot of that wild animal [TS]

00:49:15   energy and then again it brings homer [TS]

00:49:17   and stuff like that but mostly that's [TS]

00:49:19   that's with cats and dogs it's a [TS]

00:49:21   combination of breeding and then [TS]

00:49:22   continuing to treat them like somebody [TS]

00:49:24   who always knows where their next meal [TS]

00:49:26   is coming from and never has any [TS]

00:49:27   challenges like that [TS]

00:49:28   yeah although this fat of this fat go [TS]

00:49:32   like golden cat that has been living in [TS]

00:49:35   my backyard for the last couple of years [TS]

00:49:37   has a has a kind of outdoor cat savvy [TS]

00:49:41   and I told you about the possum that's [TS]

00:49:44   living under my house now have an eye [TS]

00:49:47   I was advising not gonna bring it up by [TS]

00:49:49   you saw you mentioned on twitter and I [TS]

00:49:51   was immediately terrified for everyone [TS]

00:49:53   involved [TS]

00:49:53   there's a possum living under my house [TS]

00:49:55   and i'm not a hundred percent thrilled [TS]

00:49:56   about it and the other day I was lying [TS]

00:49:58   in bed and I heard the possum in the [TS]

00:49:59   wall [TS]

00:50:01   I was like okay all right we gotta get [TS]

00:50:03   you found a way in [TS]

00:50:05   he did it and I'm like we got to get you [TS]

00:50:07   out of here and I and I want to I so I [TS]

00:50:08   went online and I looked in there are [TS]

00:50:10   all kinds of like possum protection [TS]

00:50:11   societies who say things like don't hurt [TS]

00:50:15   the possum or skerritt or even trap it [TS]

00:50:17   or anything you just want to lead the [TS]

00:50:19   possum out you want to win you want to [TS]

00:50:21   wait until the possum comes out which it [TS]

00:50:23   will surely do at night and then in the [TS]

00:50:26   middle in the middle of the night you [TS]

00:50:28   should go out and seal up all the [TS]

00:50:30   entrances to your house under the house [TS]

00:50:32   where the possum gets in and then the [TS]

00:50:34   possible just find somewhere else to be [TS]

00:50:35   shuts that sounds to me like somebody [TS]

00:50:37   who came up with that has never actually [TS]

00:50:39   tried it [TS]

00:50:40   that's the theory and the theory but [TS]

00:50:42   what I discovered was that cats outdoor [TS]

00:50:46   cats that have some natural savvy and [TS]

00:50:49   possums have a kind of professional [TS]

00:50:52   courtesy for one another and they will [TS]

00:50:55   eat out of the same bowl at the same [TS]

00:50:57   time and it when they encounter each [TS]

00:51:01   other in the wild or in the backyard the [TS]

00:51:03   wild of my backyard they just like tip [TS]

00:51:06   their hats to one another and say [TS]

00:51:07   counselor counselor like spooks right so [TS]

00:51:11   i like-like-like operatives operatives [TS]

00:51:14   right now they need to they need to not [TS]

00:51:15   you know cause dust-up and have been mix [TS]

00:51:18   them up out here in the yard we need to [TS]

00:51:19   keep things mellow yeah they got [TS]

00:51:20   projects actually courtesy the cat is [TS]

00:51:23   trying to eat [TS]

00:51:24   uh maybe let's say moles and throughs [TS]

00:51:28   and the possum is trying to crickets and [TS]

00:51:32   slugs and maybe also shrews I mean you [TS]

00:51:35   know I think there's a little bit of [TS]

00:51:36   overlap but anyway so I so when I [TS]

00:51:40   realized the possum was going in and out [TS]

00:51:42   of this hole in my house [TS]

00:51:44   I of course turned off all the lights [TS]

00:51:46   and sat in a chair just staff in your [TS]

00:51:50   lap facing the whole wasn't just someone [TS]

00:51:54   who's night goggles because i wanted to [TS]

00:51:56   know I let my eyes accustomed to the [TS]

00:51:59   dark [TS]

00:51:59   we outside you like sit on the porch [TS]

00:52:02   well the first night I SAT where I could [TS]

00:52:05   look through a glass door at the hole [TS]

00:52:07   and then the second night I opened the [TS]

00:52:10   door so that I had a clear view i was [TS]

00:52:13   still sitting inside but I was sitting [TS]

00:52:15   in the dark facing the hole through the [TS]

00:52:18   open door until uh until a friend came [TS]

00:52:22   and they were like are you just trying [TS]

00:52:23   to get the possum to come in the house I [TS]

00:52:26   was like no I feel I feel like if the [TS]

00:52:28   possum like entered the house I would [TS]

00:52:29   stand up and make it aware of me but [TS]

00:52:32   anyway so I'm sitting I'm watching the [TS]

00:52:33   hole and then so I'm being quiet [TS]

00:52:37   along comes the fat cat that lives in my [TS]

00:52:40   backyard the cat sets up station sitting [TS]

00:52:46   on a like a sitting on a on a picnic [TS]

00:52:49   bench outside and the cat sits down on [TS]

00:52:52   the picnic bench and is staring at the [TS]

00:52:53   whole too and I'm like so we sit there [TS]

00:52:57   in silence the cat is not aware that i'm [TS]

00:53:00   there i SAT there for like 10 minutes [TS]

00:53:02   and I'm staring at this cat the cat is [TS]

00:53:04   staring at the possum hall and we're [TS]

00:53:06   waiting we're waiting for the freaking [TS]

00:53:09   thing to arrive and I feel like I I was [TS]

00:53:15   offended because like i've been i've [TS]

00:53:18   been a generous host to this cat have [TS]

00:53:20   allowed him to set in my backyard I've [TS]

00:53:22   never once gotten the wrist rocket out [TS]

00:53:24   and sent a marble up his butt and and [TS]

00:53:29   now here is he's just waiting for his [TS]

00:53:31   friend to show up and they're gonna [TS]

00:53:33   being perfidious he should be more [TS]

00:53:34   loyalty do you think he's in league with [TS]

00:53:36   the possum [TS]

00:53:37   I feel like the cat should like have [TS]

00:53:39   kept the possum from living always looks [TS]

00:53:41   like he should just casually Menace the [TS]

00:53:43   possum enough to make it inconvenient to [TS]

00:53:46   live under your house [TS]

00:53:47   yeah because I we fucking are going [TS]

00:53:49   through the nest or something going [TS]

00:53:50   maybe turning stuff up and down teehee [TS]

00:53:52   the possums chili or something like that [TS]

00:53:53   so you mess with a little bit exactly [TS]

00:53:55   like i have i've been host to this cat [TS]

00:53:57   eye every time I see him in the yard iku [TS]

00:53:59   to him and I say cats originally John [TS]

00:54:02   rising it like this time we got them [TS]

00:54:03   when i first bought the house the people [TS]

00:54:06   that lived in the house before me had [TS]

00:54:08   allowed rap [TS]

00:54:09   to invade the whole my roof and so when [TS]

00:54:14   I first bought the house one of the [TS]

00:54:15   first things I had to do was put on a [TS]

00:54:17   hazmat suit and go up into the attic [TS]

00:54:20   with a shop vac the loudest thing that [TS]

00:54:23   man has ever invented a shopback is [TS]

00:54:25   louder than an f15 and i'm in a hot and [TS]

00:54:29   sweaty crawlspace with us with a with a [TS]

00:54:32   hazmat suit on a shot back and I am shop [TS]

00:54:35   backing up all of the rap to try to us [TS]

00:54:39   and i got like 25 bags of insulation out [TS]

00:54:48   of the roof of my house that I felt had [TS]

00:54:52   been contaminated by rats by their [TS]

00:54:54   pellets [TS]

00:54:55   yeah and their rat urine and there r & [TS]

00:54:57   eyelashes [TS]

00:54:58   oh and they don't have to trim their [TS]

00:55:00   nails up there all that stuff that ends [TS]

00:55:02   up in Chile in other countries [TS]

00:55:03   insulation 25 bags of insulation and [TS]

00:55:09   brat junk that I put out by the curb and [TS]

00:55:13   this is your word to the wise the [TS]

00:55:15   garbage man came by I'm standing there [TS]

00:55:16   next to the stuff the garbage man shows [TS]

00:55:18   up and I was like hey guy i got like a [TS]

00:55:22   little bit over the over the one can one [TS]

00:55:26   bag limit here at 25 bags full of this [TS]

00:55:29   garbage [TS]

00:55:30   what we gotta do how do we work this out [TS]

00:55:33   the garbage man said he had twenty bucks [TS]

00:55:38   sounds like I got I got twenty bucks [TS]

00:55:39   that's a really good deal [TS]

00:55:42   he was an amazing deal and I gave him 20 [TS]

00:55:43   bucks and he didn't even want me to hold [TS]

00:55:46   uh-huh come in the he was like I got it [TS]

00:55:48   and then the garbage went away so this [TS]

00:55:52   whole business now if you if you go and [TS]

00:55:53   you read the manual it says like every [TS]

00:55:56   extra bag over your one bag is twenty [TS]

00:55:58   dollars or something like that [TS]

00:55:59   this was i was looking at i was looking [TS]

00:56:01   at six hundred dollars what all was said [TS]

00:56:03   and done to take this stuff to the dump [TS]

00:56:05   or without many people by the way [TS]

00:56:06   there's hazmat stuff here and this is [TS]

00:56:08   totally gross stuff don't but I mean [TS]

00:56:10   he's garbage man he's like yeah it's all [TS]

00:56:11   gross stuff I don't want to look at [TS]

00:56:13   anybody's garbage [TS]

00:56:14   except if it's full of like vintage [TS]

00:56:16   Barry Bonds [TS]

00:56:18   vintage bearer bonds or I had a friend [TS]

00:56:20   who was a garbage man actually for a [TS]

00:56:22   while and he said that the old garbage [TS]

00:56:25   men like the guys that have been doing [TS]

00:56:27   it for a long time they all had photo [TS]

00:56:30   albums full of homemade porn and it's a [TS]

00:56:35   garbage man thing you're looking for [TS]

00:56:38   Polaroids of people who used to at least [TS]

00:56:43   be looking for Polaroids of people in [TS]

00:56:45   there altogether having doing you know [TS]

00:56:48   doing weird things because before [TS]

00:56:50   digital before digital cameras huh [TS]

00:56:53   the only way you could do it did you [TS]

00:56:55   wouldn't have it processed would have to [TS]

00:56:57   have a process you could make and so all [TS]

00:56:59   these guys one of the things that all of [TS]

00:57:01   us really secretly deeply fear in our [TS]

00:57:02   hearts is actually worse than we thought [TS]

00:57:04   haha people people do what your amateur [TS]

00:57:07   porn and the garbage man who go through [TS]

00:57:09   garbage to getting home and being and [TS]

00:57:11   the thing is out there somewhere there [TS]

00:57:12   are all these sixty-five-year-old [TS]

00:57:14   garbageman and they all have somewhere [TS]

00:57:17   in there crawl space multiple photo [TS]

00:57:21   albums full of what is essentially the [TS]

00:57:23   history of Polaroid porn the history of [TS]

00:57:27   home it it should be in the library of [TS]

00:57:29   fucking Congress the stuff where the ken [TS]

00:57:31   burns for Polaroid porn [TS]

00:57:33   yeah but no one has ever no one is even [TS]

00:57:35   aware that it exists that no one has [TS]

00:57:36   gone around and surveyed all the old [TS]

00:57:38   garbage men around the country and said [TS]

00:57:39   listen we know you've got some freaky [TS]

00:57:41   shit we'd like it would like it all in [TS]

00:57:45   one place at the Museum at the museo de [TS]

00:57:47   garbageman and come on come out of the [TS]

00:57:51   woodwork like what's let's have you do [TS]

00:57:53   one of those public radio kind of things [TS]

00:57:54   we're always trying to say hey if you're [TS]

00:57:56   done with your car if you're about to [TS]

00:57:57   die [TS]

00:57:58   leave us some stuff the vintage Polaroid [TS]

00:58:01   museo could just say anonymously [TS]

00:58:04   listen we don't care we don't care who [TS]

00:58:05   it came from we just want to get code [TS]

00:58:06   and we want the port [TS]

00:58:08   yeah they would come in the wait a [TS]

00:58:09   minute value-added they will clean the [TS]

00:58:11   porn out after you die [TS]

00:58:13   so when you die your family will not [TS]

00:58:15   have to see all your horrible your your [TS]

00:58:17   family will never know your family [TS]

00:58:19   doesn't need to know there's no no she [TS]

00:58:20   should die an honorable man and in this [TS]

00:58:23   case it's a service where you get you [TS]

00:58:25   get a dedicated maybe a bonding agent [TS]

00:58:27   somebody who you can trust to get all of [TS]

00:58:30   you know what here's the value-add if [TS]

00:58:31   you've got if you've got retail German [TS]

00:58:33   dungeon porn [TS]

00:58:34   we will take care of that too but the [TS]

00:58:35   thing is it's got to be it's gotta be [TS]

00:58:37   annotated like with like the point have [TS]

00:58:39   the annotated rights right and then so [TS]

00:58:42   what we need an army of interns but of [TS]

00:58:44   course the intern laws have changed so [TS]

00:58:46   we have to we have to get a grant of [TS]

00:58:48   some kind to pay for them but they need [TS]

00:58:51   to they need to be cataloging and [TS]

00:58:53   scanning this in think of the resource [TS]

00:58:56   that a website with all of guard all the [TS]

00:59:00   garbage man porn from around the world [TS]

00:59:02   wait a minute think about the porn that [TS]

00:59:04   German garbage men have it literally [TS]

00:59:07   covered with shit think about that think [TS]

00:59:09   about the photo albums that gardens just [TS]

00:59:13   from stuff in the background just from [TS]

00:59:15   stuff like you know my eye I'm not super [TS]

00:59:17   into porn but i do love looking at the [TS]

00:59:18   backgrounds and I think you could learn [TS]

00:59:20   so much about the history of a society [TS]

00:59:22   from we're naked people SAT still for a [TS]

00:59:24   while yeah their shoes the televisions [TS]

00:59:27   in the background all the I mean you [TS]

00:59:29   know like out the window you see the [TS]

00:59:31   Berlin Wall coming down like there's a [TS]

00:59:33   lot of there's a lot of history there's [TS]

00:59:38   a lot of history that's just being [TS]

00:59:39   that's just being wasted squandered [TS]

00:59:43   those guys are dying their wives are [TS]

00:59:44   finding that stuff they're going through [TS]

00:59:46   gross and they're throwing them into the [TS]

00:59:47   garbage but modern garbage men are [TS]

00:59:49   probably not searching the garbage for [TS]

00:59:53   corn like governor of the terrible [TS]

00:59:55   independent film in this somewhere but [TS]

00:59:57   you know what is going on in the things [TS]

00:59:59   you want to give these people [TS]

00:59:59   you want to give these people [TS]

01:00:00   their anonymity you want to give them [TS]

01:00:01   maybe a code name but it would be nice [TS]

01:00:03   to know [TS]

01:00:03   see this is the trouble with big data is [TS]

01:00:05   you probably will be eventually be able [TS]

01:00:07   to figure out that you always Karl that [TS]

01:00:10   will analyze these photos right it has [TS]

01:00:13   too bad they have to start dying and i [TS]

01:00:15   think the garbageman probably a lot of [TS]

01:00:17   them die young because they're like [TS]

01:00:19   sucking on rap dumb of full lives hard [TS]

01:00:23   work [TS]

01:00:24   oh my gosh that's miserable um so I'm [TS]

01:00:27   gonna I've captured that here that we [TS]

01:00:28   need to have some kind of a museum for [TS]

01:00:30   that so you went up into your wearing [TS]

01:00:32   hazmat suit and you gotta shop back [TS]

01:00:34   alright so i cleaned out a house all of [TS]

01:00:36   that and so nice and I feel like so i [TS]

01:00:39   made the house wrap proof for the most [TS]

01:00:43   part at the time that resistant [TS]

01:00:45   resistant and i added to the mix a [TS]

01:00:49   couple of cats my dad's cat puppy was [TS]

01:00:54   living with me at the time and puppy was [TS]

01:00:56   a white a long haired white cat who [TS]

01:00:59   actually was a ferocious Raptor and then [TS]

01:01:03   I had my young cat Lewis who was [TS]

01:01:06   learning how to wrap from puppy and you [TS]

01:01:10   know we clean out all the rat stuff but [TS]

01:01:12   then there were some rats that still [TS]

01:01:14   thought that this was their turf or [TS]

01:01:15   whatever and so the two cats then really [TS]

01:01:20   cleaned up Dodge City and there were no [TS]

01:01:23   rats around [TS]

01:01:24   I mean I ever for a row about six months [TS]

01:01:27   there seven years ago I would see some [TS]

01:01:30   dead rats out in the street and I think [TS]

01:01:33   that puppy didn't even allow rats to die [TS]

01:01:35   on my property puppy-like was Japanese [TS]

01:01:41   done until the rats off the property [TS]

01:01:42   that's right so then no rent no rats for [TS]

01:01:48   four years and years and years and puppy [TS]

01:01:50   is gone and Lewis is gone but this red [TS]

01:01:54   cat I feel like has the has inherited [TS]

01:01:57   the responsibility and then I saw this [TS]

01:02:00   hole under the house and it had been a [TS]

01:02:03   hole before and that I had filled [TS]

01:02:06   thought it wasn't it was a it's a it's [TS]

01:02:10   it's a new hole and it was a big hole [TS]

01:02:12   bigger than a rat and I thought that the [TS]

01:02:18   redcat was using the whole and i [TS]

01:02:20   actually saw the redcat go in the hole [TS]

01:02:22   one time so I was like okay this is a [TS]

01:02:24   cat hole and he's making a famous famous [TS]

01:02:27   back at whole like the kind of place [TS]

01:02:29   where in a min inch and young children's [TS]

01:02:32   fiction where a cat might go to have [TS]

01:02:34   kittens [TS]

01:02:34   yeah the cats under the house the cat is [TS]

01:02:36   taking care of it if there's mean I [TS]

01:02:39   don't mind Academy of the houses as long [TS]

01:02:40   as it's you know not climbing the walls [TS]

01:02:43   are peeing on everything [TS]

01:02:44   now it turns out it's a possum hole and [TS]

01:02:47   the cat is sitting out in the backyard [TS]

01:02:49   watching the possum hall with me and [TS]

01:02:52   eventually before the possum arrived [TS]

01:02:55   this particular night I couldn't keep it [TS]

01:02:57   inside anymore and I said hey and the [TS]

01:03:00   cap you know startled looks over at me [TS]

01:03:03   and I'm like what the fuck [TS]

01:03:05   like seriously what are you doing [TS]

01:03:08   I I put a lot of trust in you and the [TS]

01:03:11   cat is like really eyeballing me now [TS]

01:03:13   because he will freak out cats don't [TS]

01:03:15   like that when you just like being [TS]

01:03:17   confronted like that [TS]

01:03:18   yeah when you're sitting staring a hole [TS]

01:03:20   with them for 15 minutes and they're not [TS]

01:03:21   aware you're there and uh and so i [TS]

01:03:26   thought i gave him a good talking to [TS]

01:03:27   like you know I I i entrust you to keep [TS]

01:03:31   uh I could to keep marsupials out of the [TS]

01:03:35   basement and and now you're just sitting [TS]

01:03:39   here like waiting from to show up and [TS]

01:03:40   you guys going to get a milkshake or [TS]

01:03:41   something and eventually the cat-like [TS]

01:03:44   couldn't take it couldn't take the heat [TS]

01:03:46   uh-huh and and split and i never did see [TS]

01:03:50   the possum that night so it's really [TS]

01:03:52   seems like he might be working with him [TS]

01:03:54   i mean i don't i don't wanna say cuz [TS]

01:03:56   that's not that's not unkind thing to [TS]

01:03:57   say about it [TS]

01:03:58   the yard cat but it kind of feels like [TS]

01:04:00   he might have been like like think maybe [TS]

01:04:02   that possums the boss now I'm a little [TS]

01:04:04   bit worried about that i'm a little bit [TS]

01:04:06   worried about exactly that and I don't [TS]

01:04:08   want like like top dog in my backyard is [TS]

01:04:12   not a possum cat [TS]

01:04:14   well not Academy more cats been demoted [TS]

01:04:17   so wrong i suggested the Savannah eat [TS]

01:04:19   the Savannah cat I'm sorry I misspoke [TS]

01:04:21   it's up to 20 1822 thousand dollars is [TS]

01:04:25   what it costs and here's the thing is [TS]

01:04:28   you can stop options and they are rated [TS]

01:04:30   f1 f2 f3 through f5 depending on what [TS]

01:04:34   percentage of servile they have are they [TS]

01:04:37   like tornadoes where f5 is the best or [TS]

01:04:39   they like like know everything that [TS]

01:04:42   everyone is just like Deftones I see ya [TS]

01:04:44   everybody gets it backwards if you get [TS]

01:04:45   an f1 you get yourself an f1 and like a [TS]

01:04:48   light of this is this is not gonna be [TS]

01:04:49   cheap you get yourself an f1 and you're [TS]

01:04:51   guaranteed a Savannah cat is over fifty [TS]

01:04:54   three percent survival you can just read [TS]

01:04:57   it's a breeder right you're not going to [TS]

01:04:58   pay twenty two thousand dollars for [TS]

01:04:59   catholic and i think he wants and papers [TS]

01:05:01   and provenance to know what you're [TS]

01:05:03   looking at you're looking at a cat that [TS]

01:05:04   might be around 30 pounds its long leg [TS]

01:05:06   it's adapted you can get along with [TS]

01:05:08   children [TS]

01:05:09   mike is 30 pounds wow [TS]

01:05:13   but you can walk around on a leash well [TS]

01:05:15   here's what you're looking at you're [TS]

01:05:16   looking at and it seems like quite a [TS]

01:05:17   spread i'm at the a1 Savannah's calm [TS]

01:05:19   here so I don't have invented these [TS]

01:05:21   numbers we are at for f1 male you're [TS]

01:05:23   looking at twelve to twenty two thousand [TS]

01:05:24   dollars for every one female you're [TS]

01:05:27   looking at twelve to thirty five [TS]

01:05:29   thousand dollars because I guess you [TS]

01:05:31   could breed them but i think i could I [TS]

01:05:33   just want to say I i think that picture [TS]

01:05:36   changes if you're walking around at [TS]

01:05:37   night with a half wild animal while [TS]

01:05:40   you're carrying a staff I think I think [TS]

01:05:42   there's gonna be some changes in the way [TS]

01:05:43   those animals look at you gonna say [TS]

01:05:45   you're serious [TS]

01:05:46   their first of all that you've [TS]

01:05:47   demonstrated you can get along with with [TS]

01:05:49   a half wild animal already and get it on [TS]

01:05:51   a leash [TS]

01:05:52   yeah the thing is it in my neighborhood [TS]

01:05:53   if I start walking around with a long [TS]

01:05:55   legged cat you basically at all cat on a [TS]

01:05:58   leash [TS]

01:05:58   yeah I had better also be wearing a fur [TS]

01:06:01   homburg right like I'm not I'm not gonna [TS]

01:06:06   just walk around Yusei be culturally [TS]

01:06:08   insensitive Vivian and I'm a white a [TS]

01:06:11   white any rock guy walking with the cat [TS]

01:06:13   I'm not gonna have a tall cat on a leash [TS]

01:06:15   and just be wearing some filson jacket [TS]

01:06:17   right because you gotta digits [TS]

01:06:20   yeah you gonna be ripping a certain [TS]

01:06:21   lifestyle and in Jennifer home burgers [TS]

01:06:24   that is the minimum of like how much how [TS]

01:06:28   fly you would have to be to be pulling [TS]

01:06:30   off at all cat [TS]

01:06:32   ok here's the other thing is like let's [TS]

01:06:33   let's for a moment set aside the price [TS]

01:06:35   of getting an f1 savannah cat and I [TS]

01:06:37   think this changes completely if you [TS]

01:06:39   have two of them if let go in San [TS]

01:06:41   Francisco [TS]

01:06:42   what if you had to what you had to [TS]

01:06:44   savannah cats on leashes walking around [TS]

01:06:46   you [TS]

01:06:47   oh my god it would be worth the 50000 [TS]

01:06:49   dollars because you would be legendary [TS]

01:06:53   I mean I'll you incredibly weird [TS]

01:06:55   expensive cats that act like dogs [TS]

01:06:58   I would need an ankle length fur coat [TS]

01:07:00   fur hopper to savannah cats on a leash [TS]

01:07:04   and like a diamond-tipped walking stick [TS]

01:07:08   sword cane you would be you would be [TS]

01:07:11   like a magic user that would be a good [TS]

01:07:13   look [TS]

01:07:14   are you kidding me that would be [TS]

01:07:15   dynamite Seattle would not be big enough [TS]

01:07:16   for two hold me problems you couldn't [TS]

01:07:20   really couldn't be could rock that look [TS]

01:07:22   in a place like Los Angeles you would [TS]

01:07:25   have to move to a like jackson hole [TS]

01:07:29   wyoming yeah if you're going to if [TS]

01:07:31   you're gonna wear full of an [TS]

01:07:33   ankle-length for code and have to [TS]

01:07:35   savannah cats on a leash [TS]

01:07:37   you're gonna need to live in in a resort [TS]

01:07:40   town telluride Jackson Hole you know [TS]

01:07:45   like that at the outside thing i guess [TS]

01:07:48   so i guess i'm thinking i'm thinking [TS]

01:07:49   comics I think of things in common like [TS]

01:07:51   soccer or the watchman there's there's a [TS]

01:07:53   great tradition of scary dudes with [TS]

01:07:56   giant fucking cats you know like like [TS]

01:07:59   what's-his-name in the watching he's got [TS]

01:08:01   a giant a giant giant cat III think [TS]

01:08:03   that's like a lap cat write it like he [TS]

01:08:06   doesn't know his cat it's like it it's [TS]

01:08:08   really really really big it's an [TS]

01:08:09   artificially I'm here's what I'm saying [TS]

01:08:11   John I'm not saying you should become a [TS]

01:08:13   supervillain I think either [TS]

01:08:15   you should be perceived as a [TS]

01:08:16   supervillain but I think you're gonna [TS]

01:08:18   get a lot of respect from other [TS]

01:08:20   reprobates if you if you have to [TS]

01:08:23   describe costume into very large cats i [TS]

01:08:26   think so too but I mean I really i'm i'm [TS]

01:08:28   increasingly concerned about like like [TS]

01:08:32   this is the thing sometimes sometimes in [TS]

01:08:35   my neighborhood I will go by somebody's [TS]

01:08:37   house and they will have a really [TS]

01:08:39   expensive car who and the house is yeah [TS]

01:08:43   nothing [TS]

01:08:44   yeah and you go like right okay so when [TS]

01:08:46   you're in the car and you're rolling [TS]

01:08:49   around you're repping a certain high [TS]

01:08:52   style [TS]

01:08:53   yeah but you better not ever bring [TS]

01:08:55   anybody home [TS]

01:08:56   it's like it's it you you put all your [TS]

01:08:59   you put all your ducks in one car basket [TS]

01:09:02   in one car basket [TS]

01:09:04   um and I you know I feel like everything [TS]

01:09:10   that you rep at every level has to be co [TS]

01:09:13   measure it with all the other things [TS]

01:09:15   they rapin you can't you can't just rep [TS]

01:09:18   you can't you can't be off the scale in [TS]

01:09:21   one department and then let everything [TS]

01:09:23   slack that makes sense it's a kind of [TS]

01:09:25   bizarre personality compartmentalization [TS]

01:09:29   like you don't want to have to have this [TS]

01:09:31   one thing you hope everybody looks at [TS]

01:09:32   and then oh by the way don't look at all [TS]

01:09:34   this over here right now so sense if you [TS]

01:09:37   come into my house and you're like this [TS]

01:09:39   guy's kind of a weird a collector of [TS]

01:09:43   things and sort of it's not you know [TS]

01:09:45   he's not all the way to like if you go [TS]

01:09:46   into a man's house like going up the [TS]

01:09:50   stairs there are 25 Santa Claus dolls [TS]

01:09:57   from that 19th century that are all made [TS]

01:10:01   of bone china and super creepy who and [TS]

01:10:05   it's like right i'm in Michael Penn and [TS]

01:10:07   aimee mann's house of course there are [TS]

01:10:09   creepy Santa's everywhere and if you say [TS]

01:10:13   something like I just happened and you [TS]

01:10:15   know in the kitchen there are a bunch of [TS]

01:10:16   paintings of US presidents and if you [TS]

01:10:20   comment on them you realize that oh amy [TS]

01:10:22   has painted [TS]

01:10:24   all of those Wow and she's very good and [TS]

01:10:28   she just picks a president and paints [TS]

01:10:30   paints the President and then it goes up [TS]

01:10:32   on the kitchen wall it's like right [TS]

01:10:34   these people are living a very very high [TS]

01:10:37   level of meeting expectations like I'm [TS]

01:10:41   going to aimee mann cells and Michael [TS]

01:10:42   pens house what's it going to be like I [TS]

01:10:44   hope it's not a tract house out in [TS]

01:10:47   pasadena right and then you realize that [TS]

01:10:50   no it is a tutor home and it is full of [TS]

01:10:52   I said to them at one point I was like [TS]

01:10:54   you know the only thing that this house [TS]

01:10:56   is missing are some like Napoleon hats [TS]

01:10:59   like you need some feathered Napoleon [TS]

01:11:02   hats and Michael pen stands up grabs my [TS]

01:11:05   hand leads me into the next room and [TS]

01:11:08   points up to the top of the bookshelf [TS]

01:11:10   where there are 10 feathered Napoleon [TS]

01:11:12   and I was just like well okay then I'll [TS]

01:11:17   see myself [TS]

01:11:18   James set match right like they are [TS]

01:11:20   living to measure it with your [TS]

01:11:22   expectations that they do not disappoint [TS]

01:11:24   and if you come into my house and you [TS]

01:11:27   look around you know there are no there [TS]

01:11:30   there [TS]

01:11:30   I have just not lived long enough for [TS]

01:11:33   vibrantly enough to have 10 Napoleon [TS]

01:11:35   hats but they're they're definitely like [TS]

01:11:39   if you if you see the things that are in [TS]

01:11:42   my house and then you think to yourself [TS]

01:11:43   I hope that the person that owns these [TS]

01:11:46   things has some opinions about things I [TS]

01:11:50   would hate it if this guy would just [TS]

01:11:52   have no opinions about anything right [TS]

01:11:53   then you will find that I the the [TS]

01:11:55   opinions i have about things match the [TS]

01:11:58   number of kooky cookie globes that are [TS]

01:12:02   under my piece not so different from [TS]

01:12:04   going back if you have says good going [TS]

01:12:05   back to the guy who puts all the meat [TS]

01:12:06   stickers in is in his diary like you [TS]

01:12:09   don't want to become you don't become [TS]

01:12:10   like an intellectual fetishist or a [TS]

01:12:12   cultural fetishes you don't become just [TS]

01:12:14   the one person who like is covered with [TS]

01:12:16   tattoos like it's not that interesting [TS]

01:12:18   right now you don't become the one [TS]

01:12:20   person who just has a room in their [TS]

01:12:21   house dedicated to Elvis like that [TS]

01:12:23   doesn't seem well rounded it doesn't [TS]

01:12:25   seem actually all that interesting [TS]

01:12:26   artistic a bunch of out like salt [TS]

01:12:29   shakers that look like owls for instance [TS]

01:12:31   well I mean it'd be nice to have but you [TS]

01:12:33   think we should be a leveling [TS]

01:12:34   among all your quirkiness that supports [TS]

01:12:36   a larger personality well you remember [TS]

01:12:38   you remember the story I told about the [TS]

01:12:39   guy that had a bunch of tattoos and then [TS]

01:12:41   we went we were going on a beer run and [TS]

01:12:42   we went out to his car and it was a [TS]

01:12:44   two-wheel drive toyota pickup and I was [TS]

01:12:47   like you're ready you're repping a whole [TS]

01:12:51   thing here that he had that the absolute [TS]

01:12:53   minimum car i was expecting you to drive [TS]

01:12:55   would be a 72 el camino i right ok but I [TS]

01:12:58   was I really expected a 65 GTO is it [TS]

01:13:02   anything your dad would give you when [TS]

01:13:03   you go to college [TS]

01:13:04   yeah you're telling me this is a [TS]

01:13:05   two-wheel drive toyota king cab pickup [TS]

01:13:07   like no sir no sir [TS]

01:13:09   shame shame shame so yeah I don't feel [TS]

01:13:13   like if you if you have if you have [TS]

01:13:15   crossed checkered flags on a on a circle [TS]

01:13:18   of fire tattoo on forearm don't drive a [TS]

01:13:22   toyota of any kind [TS]

01:13:24   it's just it just doesn't it just [TS]

01:13:27   doesn't square and I feel like I feel [TS]

01:13:29   like we each of us have to we have to [TS]

01:13:31   like measure the degree of commitment [TS]

01:13:35   that we have to who we are and then make [TS]

01:13:38   sure that everything lines up right [TS]

01:13:40   yeah sure also you know you have to [TS]

01:13:43   wonder about you know any solution or [TS]

01:13:45   perceived solution to a problem that [TS]

01:13:47   involves adding more animals because i [TS]

01:13:50   think i think that doesn't always end [TS]

01:13:52   well [TS]

01:13:53   no no no everyone thing to say like you [TS]

01:13:55   could borrow like a litter of vicious [TS]

01:13:57   cats for a little while but you don't [TS]

01:13:59   have to be taking care of those cats [TS]

01:14:00   because then the dander gets into your [TS]

01:14:02   system and pretty soon you're not [TS]

01:14:03   thinking straight [TS]

01:14:04   and this is where I feel like the chin [TS]

01:14:07   chilla is the real hack listening the [TS]

01:14:12   chinchilla is the super happy because a [TS]

01:14:15   chinchilla is hypoallergenic look at [TS]

01:14:19   that little face a chinchilla does not [TS]

01:14:21   have dander it's not it's not an elk [TS]

01:14:24   allergic animal it's like it looks like [TS]

01:14:27   kind of like a small rabbit that's [TS]

01:14:29   actually a mouse right it's a small [TS]

01:14:31   around if it's actually a mouse that's [TS]

01:14:33   exactly right and very fuzzy it's [TS]

01:14:34   because he's got short manageable hair [TS]

01:14:36   it's so soft because what is the what is [TS]

01:14:40   the nicest for jacket you can buy it's a [TS]

01:14:42   chinchilla and this is a live one of [TS]

01:14:45   those [TS]

01:14:47   they are incredibly chill little dudes [TS]

01:14:50   easy to own naughty not expensive to own [TS]

01:14:54   easy to care for and yet it's a [TS]

01:14:57   chinchilla it's not like a guinea pig or [TS]

01:15:00   a mouse or something so it wraps a lot [TS]

01:15:04   it fights all up at a much higher weight [TS]

01:15:08   because it's technically an exotic thing [TS]

01:15:11   so you can be a kook only chinchilla but [TS]

01:15:16   the chinchilla itself is like a very [TS]

01:15:19   manageable the word is that the word is [TS]

01:15:21   it out on Csilla ownership I think maybe [TS]

01:15:24   these are amazing I mean especially if [TS]

01:15:25   you get a really big one we kind of need [TS]

01:15:27   if you'd probably like that you would [TS]

01:15:29   get a lot of people going what is that [TS]

01:15:30   what the fuck is good and forever kind [TS]

01:15:32   of looks like a rat it kinda looks like [TS]

01:15:34   a guinea pig [TS]

01:15:35   it kind of looks like a bunny it kind of [TS]

01:15:38   looks like a mouse and then you really [TS]

01:15:40   and probably big that could really that [TS]

01:15:43   would be super fun things then you put [TS]

01:15:44   in your arms and it has that softness [TS]

01:15:47   where it's like improbably soft like you [TS]

01:15:52   cannot maintain a bad mood while you're [TS]

01:15:55   holding a chinchilla and you're never [TS]

01:15:58   going to sneeze either like it's that [TS]

01:16:00   it's the best of all possible worlds i [TS]

01:16:02   feel like the tension out imagine [TS]

01:16:04   walking down the street with a couple of [TS]

01:16:06   big chinchillas on a leash like to look [TS]

01:16:08   at that pretty pretty small legs they do [TS]

01:16:11   I mean you wouldn't it wouldn't be a [TS]

01:16:12   long walk like they did you just [TS]

01:16:14   carrying it though like again like a [TS]

01:16:15   superplex just gently putting your chin [TS]

01:16:18   chilla in a white suit but you're gonna [TS]

01:16:20   want an extra hand for your staff is the [TS]

01:16:22   problem i know i feel like i feel like [TS]

01:16:25   if you had a chinchilla what you would [TS]

01:16:27   be doing as you'd be sitting in a baby [TS]

01:16:28   sitting in a bind the desk in a big [TS]

01:16:31   chair in a darkened room and you just be [TS]

01:16:34   putting in June chilla and people would [TS]

01:16:36   be coming and asking you for favors on [TS]

01:16:38   the day of your daughter's what [TS]

01:16:40   initialization disrespect [TS]