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00:00:24 ◼ ► hello I John I'm Merlin how's it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/24">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► oh it's going well how are you going I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/29">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► doing extremely well happy anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/32">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► yeah every year and there was this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► three years ago we started doing this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/42">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► don't really have anything special to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/45">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► say about that i just wanna make sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► wow I don't know if you three years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/48">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► thought that we would still be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/51">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► this three years from now i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► what I thought three years ago i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/54">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► I'm not gonna like the ocean just ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► wasn't at the Clinton administration I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► yeah yeah you have some listeners that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► weren't even born during the Clinton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► administration that's not true is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► true true i don't know i do this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► just drop a decade sometimes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/77">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► yeah we're all going I can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► it's 20 years since ronald reagan was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► I just should be as I was coming down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/90">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► here i just did the thing where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► driving along and I just drove in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/95">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► wrong direction or I don't go down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/99">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► wrong way towards your office studio or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/103">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► no no the wrong the wrong way toward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► where I was going I was just thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/110">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► you know what I was thinking about I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/111">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► thinking about young black Republicans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► and that haha the subject classic Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/114">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► grown through that i only got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► thinking it returned and I did instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► of right yeah I went I went the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► way and then I was like where am I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► know I got to an intersection was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/128">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► interactive and teaching what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► well it might be it might be true that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► should specifically not think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/139">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► young black Republicans because it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/140">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► because it's kind of like ass like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/143">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► smoke fog that's not the log cabin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► no those are the young gay Republicans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/148">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► lot of them have matured into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► middle-aged gay Republican but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/154">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► must be some young gay black Republicans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/155">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► imagine you could get more tail than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/157">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► Sinatra i know for a fact there are I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/158">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► investigate the culture of young black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► Republicans and I was fairly amazed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/166">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► what I found really yeah haha you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/168">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► the most expressive voice it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► like having an expressive face but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► can communicate such subtlety with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► hole with only a couple of syllables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► haha i'm gonna cover that and so I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/187">TS</a>]
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00:03:18 ◼ ► seattle seahawks football-playing team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/198">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► i'll go hawks and they are going to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► the green bay packers and so everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► very excited that follows that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/208">TS</a>]
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00:03:35 ◼ ► there's a guy standing with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► with an orange flag in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► parking lot where i normally park and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► has a sign that says parking fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/223">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► wow just parking parking fifty dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► and the game doesn't start for seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► Wow and he's out there already selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► parking for fifty dollars and so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► got into my parking lot so I just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► drove by man waved and he was like uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/242">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► was like yeah yeah I've got a parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/244">TS</a>]
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00:04:20 ◼ ► however many at eight spots and the bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/260">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► is full of canadians who are who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/264">TS</a>]
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00:04:31 ◼ ► in there drinking already it's ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/271">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► harbinger of of the day to come here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► we've had a big dust up here because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/281">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► our football team is called the 49ers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/286">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► yeah I know I know it's it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/290">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► now i know right what about the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/296">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► became in 54 in 48 yeah right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► their parade was their stadium i'll tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► you where the stadium is used to be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/302">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► Candlestick Park which is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► already kind of on the the rim of San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► Francisco they built a new state in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► levi's stadium has been built in santa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/309">TS</a>]
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00:05:15 ◼ ► everything you stand for something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/315">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► the peninsula so you don't need to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► track but basically long story short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► ar-ar-ar towns football organization now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/320">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► has the distinction of having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/324">TS</a>]
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00:05:29 ◼ ► town of anybody in the NFL really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/329">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► yeah right i mean i'm not a football is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/335">TS</a>]
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00:05:43 ◼ ► that crazy and still the San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/343">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► 49ers they built a whole big stadium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► it's crazy i read a rundown I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► got you go to sports gaming things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► sometimes some you know it's gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► pretty costly you might you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/352">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► football you might spend like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/353">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► hundred dollars on a ticket yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/355">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► well yeah because you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► whole game of professional sports right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► uh aside from the game of actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/364">TS</a>]
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00:06:32 ◼ ► having the sports team that injects a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/392">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► and it is somehow it's a public good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► right having it having a good sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► team is like a promotes the city in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/403">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► these you know these confusing ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/407">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► can't really be quantified and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► then you set aside whole levels of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/413">TS</a>]
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00:07:00 ◼ ► private boxes and with a baseball team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/420">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► my understanding of how this works the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► baseball team place 200k play 650 games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/429">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► here 651 dave was not including the suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/432">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► the the superbowl I think it has five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/436">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► yeah exactly standing amortize it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/440">TS</a>]
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00:07:24 ◼ ► gotta charge big big big dollar so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/444">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► conservatively 6,000 Mariners games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► understand these are just step on um but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► I have been a sense they tore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► kingdom down and built the and built the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/459">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► but the steel taco that replaced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► I have been 20 Seahawks games because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► you know who's gonna I mean I'll throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/471">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► ten dollars and mariners game go sit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► the stands get a hot dog yeah cares but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/474">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► two hundred dollars to go to go sit in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/478">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► yeah you know it's I don't have a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/481">TS</a>]
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00:08:07 ◼ ► learn about this but i dunno it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/487">TS</a>]
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00:08:12 ◼ ► part of town where there are uh matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► like a lot of like quick working-class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► people who lived in San Francisco a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► time and you know they'll wear the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/499">TS</a>]
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00:08:26 ◼ ► and the 49ers jacket and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► socks 49er Sox yeah but it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► same little needy when you see people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/510">TS</a>]
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00:08:41 ◼ ► hunger never seemed weird I which 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/521">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► haha i know a guy and hungry who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/525">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► in and he was one of these guys that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► you ask him a question the answer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► the Ramones and it didn't matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► did matter what the question always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/537">TS</a>]
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00:16:22 ◼ ► anything else that they they found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► one thing that they could you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► because it was safety orange or whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/987">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► you just feel like the guy was like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► you're a fan patient you're a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► patriots you were like red white and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► blue right is that right right when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► hold my in-laws my family they vary in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/997">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► distinctive yellow around my high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► we had green we had bright green and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► bright yellow and was incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► unflattering my high school was powder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► blue red white and blue but the blue was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► powder blue and it's still kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► haunts me that is how flattering because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► our main opponents were black and orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► and they just looked so badass black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► orange just like yeah Halloween colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► and we were we were red white and packed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► powder blue and our and our mascot was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► the Thunderbird which isn't even really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► a thing you know when you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► that though because we might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► bring religion into the mix I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► you talked about how recently about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► that letter is a positive feeling or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► negative feeling Presbyterian meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► something to you like an Episcopalian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► meant something to you were you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► irish-catholic wearing an Italian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► Catholic they're all these gradations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► that even if you weren't like a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► observant person those meant the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► kinds of stuff to average American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► people that never was like us today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► associated with certain colleges oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► want to brown or you want to know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► there's that certain kind of anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► else would go likewise that wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1077">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► joke on the simpsons talking about brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► like that doesn't make any sense but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► other thing that's interesting is first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► of all like I think it's a think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► interesting to look at the way religion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► changed through the 60 seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► eighties when you got more into this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► know but promise on my ass but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► combination of like people become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► diffuse people's like total acceptance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► of whatever was said by their clergy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► person I think tend to get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► more dissolute overtime but also you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► any more like they call i first started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► buffet Catholicism the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► would accept these things and not those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► things and you know you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► incredibly Arden partly Catholic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► these things and not those but you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► that now today in all these million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► other things doctor who like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► doctor who fan community is it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► just like Doctor Who lots of people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► Doctor Who you Napoli really how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► incredibly specific people get that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► true of anything when I listen to NPR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► recognizing your bands on NPR and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► about new pornographers yesterday hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1138">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► like I got 100 we're just talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► these guys with beards I don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► they are but like there's so much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► realize instrument punk-rock apps think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► about all the flavors of punk rock but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► you know you know I mentioned with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► Doctor Who because it is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► I enjoy that I'm a small fan of compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► to the mega fans but I've never seen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► much diversity in a community that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► aware of that there were people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► along but at the same time there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► some people who really hate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► particular doctor they really love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► particular duck like the doctor to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► like an alien like that like the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► be like a human they hate this companion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► love this campaign but like it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► endless the number of combinations in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► fandom and you might love the companion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► in this episode you know short stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► like Star Wars I mean it's just weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► because that's something that's popped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► as a fan thing especially the last five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► years there's always been like sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► fans but like it's this huge thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► true and comics but like it gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► that satisfaction of being part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► community while still being incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► passionate about something and on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► you're not just some nerd who likes nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► stuff you're a very specific kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► nerd and you're remembering sec you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► in it you're in a tribe but you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► really get to pick where you get to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► interesting and can potentially be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► little divisive because things start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► seem real but but i mean i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► you you don't have the same institutions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► that she used to and now that we all get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► I think she interesting stuff coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► of that it's definitely gonna make very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► interesting brand base to stick fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► oh now with a be sponsors or is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► people you follow on twitter like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► a best buy like people follow best buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► on Twitter and write out a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► all of the doctor who fans are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► sit on one side of the stadium against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► all of the Star Trek fans in the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► doctor who star trek fans stick fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► tournaments this is like England in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► in the late thirties you gotta pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1258">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► side right but at a certain point when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► the doctor who fans go back to the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► know the area around santa clara where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► they have made their homeland and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► started their settlements yeah the Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► Trek fans go down to Santa Barbara where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► they have made their home wins that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► the the regional stick fighting is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► going to happen between the sexes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► you're going to have to qualify for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► Star Trek team by fight you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► you're like you're Kirk cause player and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► you're gonna have to fight against a DNI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► cause player in order to get that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► at the end Troy deanna troi that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► I know that name I've read that name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► yeah and so he's an empath i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► standing out in front of packs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► videogame conference the other day it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► was some people I know and like and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► we had reason we had reason to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► for a moment and so everybody pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► their phones out and i looked around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► i was the only one with an iphone how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► that's super interesting let android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► android they all had android phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► I was and the thing is they didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► mention of it and I was like oh whoa do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► you guys all have android phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► they all looked up and kinda had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► doesn't everyone have an android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► mind a lot of setup you guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► yeah right like they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► wonder why would you need to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► what are you talking about whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► you'd 0 is there another kind of phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► other than android phone and some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► felt a little bit like practiced but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► also times have changed just in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► couple years when you wear now that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► not only viable but like to some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► always great greatly preferable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► yeah right and so and they just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► back to like people poop and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► sudden I felt like I was on enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► territory and I was like oh I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► care about like I'm not a person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► brand identifies but I'm used to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► everybody's got an iphone and the and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► you never have to think about what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► everybody's got an iphone and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► just assume that that's the only kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► phone and those questions are removed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► mmm yeah but what happens when somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► texts you and it's a green bubble utd's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► do you think you think you can teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► anything like a steer might what usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► goes through my mind is oh now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► features working again or now it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► again is the bigger level of blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► bubbles mean it's somebody you know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► but I text my text my mom all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► and sometimes it's in a green bubble and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► sometimes in a blue bubble and it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► she has a just like mine and so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► like that is that is another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► it's things that like wouldn't that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► interesting if it worked well you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► like they're gonna make bigger phones so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► that's going to be good for you that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► gonna be getting really really big fun i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► have to say this is the thing I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► loath to say because it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► product promotion but Apple issued that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► recall all right get the battery thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► and I went in and my phone my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► qualified and they gave me a new phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► is it and did you get you five we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► gonna give you five s uh it's a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► they have a they have an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► requirement that it be exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► as the phone color you had before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► that's cool still I mean but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► brand-new is a refurbished phoner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1498">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► Angelus brand new phone that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► going off the shelf and now i don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► the battery problems anymore i go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► day long and my phone doesn't die and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► and it felt for it felt you know like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► example of I mean the my phones two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► years old at this point and it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► through a couple of different rainstorms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► it went through the washing machine one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► I yeah I i used it as a shuttlecock in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► the in well as I was taking a carpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► knitting class the phone was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► badly damaged get what I'm back to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► I took AI took am I took like a berber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► carpet weaving class and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► he is if he used the phone as a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► ah but the but the company made good on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► eventually yeah yeah they had they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► did a terrible thing they made a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► phone Steve Jobs died and no one was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► charge anymore that's right and they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► a bad thing out into the world and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► two years later they made it right and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► am i i'm i'm pleased as well now you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► more battery time to give you more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► to be frustrated with the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► well not reach our church except i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► gradually I am gradually taking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► oops off I i put your app threes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► there before but i am taking other apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► off good-for-you everyday i take some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► apps off and every day my I walk a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► little lighter and and and I I feel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► little stronger you know you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► always get him back but you know get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► them off there is a very freeing feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► did you ever get that other facebook app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► that you needed so I took facebook off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► wow it's gone you're kidding gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► that must have been hard well I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► what it was i sat down and I said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► because because the logic i was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► was when i get a lot of work through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► facebook people contact me on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► and they give me that offers two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► and if I don't have facebook on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► I'm missing out on all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► these booking agents who are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► communicating through facebook anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► but the more I thought about it i sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► down and I ran like well let's name the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► top 10 gigs you've gotten from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► contacting you on facebook i was like mm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► mm right it's mostly garbage you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► it's mostly a I do get a lot of i do end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► up doing a lot of things but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► hey will you to be in it can i interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► you for my high school paper or I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► you know frankly I couldn't remember a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► single thing and and I felt like if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► Facebook the danger is that my facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► page is still out there and so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► are going to send me messages on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► then wonder why I didn't reply right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► I I can't hold it all that guilt I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► took it off i just took it off and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► stopped thinking about it that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► know that's the end of the story cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► turkey and and it's a it's it's already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► a delightful to not have that but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► really I'm its I'm just I'm narrowing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► I'm thinking about it you know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► evaluating what twitter is for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► I'm and I'm I'm coming close to coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► close to making a decision to having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► I keep thinking I keep thinking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► there's Benny's legitimately bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► everybody feels bad about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► generally these bad things everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► doesn't like and I keep thinking okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► well I guess that that's good that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► getting maybe this progress on that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► know on some kind of an issue you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► this is the same way that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► turned their icons green for Iran so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► can save them and then they change them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► back and I keep thinking you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► we've reached peak outrage and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► like it can't be 18 hours before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► somebody a bunch of people are suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► mad about a new thing and it really i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► not trying to be cynical because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► understand everybody has their reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► but it really it's really i'm reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► when I start getting frustrated about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► because it becomes not as fun to use if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► it's like you know you're never gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► not outraged there's always gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► another thing that you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► blind righteous outrage about and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► bar seems to be getting impossibly low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► for that it's solo that's exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► and at least one thing i want to clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► this because I i can hear these words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► coming out of my mouth and I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► it sounds like i'm not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► anybody's particular beef and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► talking about anybody's particular right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► right exactly as a writer about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1797">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► right to feel how they want about stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► but sometimes when I look at the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► listings i don't see any movies I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► to go to and more and more that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► make me not like movies or hate people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► who make movies but it does make me have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► three or four weeks go by were like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► everything is I'm the reason I'm having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► this experience is that i'm at that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► it's very personal right like i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► always been interested in what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► on and I've always been interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► engaging in the culture as it is now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► but i have never been someone who's felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► a special outraged about anything and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► find myself being consumed on a daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► basis with you know that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► tightening in the chest and that knot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► the stomach where it's not a response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► the events that are being debated it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► response to the debate her and and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► aunt and my feeling like I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► engage in the debate and I need to be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► united we need to be in there throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► elbows and like making sure that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► point is heard and all the stuffin you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► know I did a series of events at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► oh yeah I want to hear how that went and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► it was you know I was sort of moderating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► discussions everyday and early on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► year we can depict various topics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► felt really of the moment and we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► these panel discussions where a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► of different people who were nominally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► experts on the topic got up and gave 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► minute presentations and then we sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► together and discussed the ways in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► those ideas overlapped one another and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► then we took questions from the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► and you know it was like a like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► hour-long sort of words and ideas a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► panel and two of the days went off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► really really well they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► the first day was why beards why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► twerking why now and it was you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► was a little bit of a culture clash I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► had my friend Elon who is a producer of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► The Bachelor come up and talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► beards because he has a kind of famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► he's a guy on the plane with diane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► seven alright and then I i had one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► the dancers for Big Freedia get up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► talk about twerking on the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► well it's a it was a real cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► exchange because this dancer is is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► from New Orleans and came up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► bounce music scene and through his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► twerking skills and his bounce dancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► skills he's now seen the world right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► was a guy that probably would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► had you know a New Orleans resident his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► whole life and never been outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► city and through bounce and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► cultural through because the world has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► gotten excited about and has now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► appropriated his regional culture he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► gets an opportunity to go to Paris and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► and dance on television and talk for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► money work for money so talking to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► about about the world and how it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► that his culture is so popular now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► his awareness that it's a it's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► a moment in the Sun but but then he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► talking about how bounce is 20 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► already and will and it will live in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► you know he was very sanguine about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► interesting conversation and like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► you wouldn't think those two things went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► together but that is exactly the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► program we were trying to do and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► nice i mean you get a gloss on this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► it's nice to hear somebody who's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► super defensive about it and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► glad to see people enjoying it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► yeah and I felt like he has some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► ownership on where he you know wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► get his percentage from it right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► and to his credit and I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► opportunity to talk two dancers about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► culture you get a different perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► you know and he's a he he is primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► interacting with the world with his body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► and like he wants to talk about he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► to dance primarily and then he's willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► to talk about it and that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► and exciting and then the the next day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► had a brownie and a juggalo come out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► describe their cultures that devil you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► and really yeah and the the the brownie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► was a guy you may have seen on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► internet called the world's manliest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► he's a he's a a guy that works at a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► the parts dept of a harley-davidson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► dealership in michigan and he's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► brownie he's six foot five and 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► pounds and he's got like a walrus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► mustache walrus mustache that guy and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► had a real pattern about he'd been on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► couple of documentary films about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► bronies and he was you he already was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► sort of the thought of himself as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► celebrity and I and as a worldwide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► advocate for bronies but the juggalo was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► just a guy from Arizona name at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► dragon spell TR AG a.m. and Matt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► dragon was just a kid who was juggalo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► and had made a had made a film about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► juggalos and he had never given a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► presentation before and he got up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► started talking about juggalo lyfe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► this on the audience that I that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► for this event you know just 250 or 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► Seattle liberals and they really wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► to confront this guy and I had I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► question-and-answer and like and so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► woman said i was like i'm gonna read use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► of insane clown posse lyrics now at Lana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► and I want you to defend because he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► know he was saying like juggalos a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► community and we are we're good for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► she was like I want you to defend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► and he very gracefully and a and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► he's just in the life right he he he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► not he wasn't thinking he wasn't he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► wasn't prepared to be confronted but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► handled her question the following way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► he said well you know the violence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► all the like a clownish language that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► they use is well first of all they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► clowns we are all clowns and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► because we feel like we're the clouds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► society so a lot of it is pretend we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► but but that violence and and misogyny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► and all that stuff attracts violent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► young men to juggle ilysm and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► they're in the community we tame them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► and and show them that we are a family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and that we and that they finally have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► family and it was like you could hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► a hush descends on the room and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► think a lot of people didn't agree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► they that hear this guy was defending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► his life and uh and I it was it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► truly an example of a roomful of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► who left their with something to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► about who you know like there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► violent young guys out there that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► have fathers and if they end up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► I mean this guy's point was there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► lot worse things that could happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► juggalo is a is a place for them to land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► right on you know that's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► high fives all around ok so the last day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► approaching out i was thinking back nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► months ago when I was when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► throwing ideas around and we settled on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► our ideas and I was just slapping my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► what were we thinking but the last day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► why bullying why now and in trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► put this panel together it turned out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► know the manager of grumpy cat he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► personal friend and he's and that's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► job he manages grumpy cat and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► it's the grumpy cat huh he's his manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► I think he also manages that little some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► sort of 8-bit graphic the cat with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► rainbow and the triangle eyes he manages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► that cat and he manages a one other cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► professional internet cat manager so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► know I'm gonna regret laughing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► minute i think that's that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► oh yeah and in fact he's in vancouver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► right now I hope I don't give too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► away but he's making a grumpy cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► well yeah but uh the bullying topic i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► tried to get dan Savage to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► panel and he wrote me a very thoughtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► email where he said I will be on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► panel you ever ask me to be except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► bullying I do not ever want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► what because he's talked about a line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► yeah well he's the he's the he's the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► is the it gets better' guy he's the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► let's get back in there gets better guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► ok it was great except he has come under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► tremendous fire as everyone in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► does now who says anything off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► reservation out in the world and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► even know why he has come under fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► from inside that community people yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► on the goddamn bowling topic I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► know why I don't I don't I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► research it enough to know why he feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► burned but he's like I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► talk about anymore and I tried to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► couple of different people and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► would talk about it and as as we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► closer to bumbershoot I was like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► understand why no one wants to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► and I'm wondering why I thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► good idea to have this on the have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► is a topic and the more I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► it was like oh i remember why i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► it was interesting because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► interesting it would be it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► interesting topic it's a kid why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► fascinating to us at this moment in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► it is occupying a huge place in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► culture talking about bullying and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► is bullying and what does it represent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► and I mean it's a fascinating topic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► I remember why I chose it because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► really really thought it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► interesting but as it got closer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► tried to get a panelist to represent it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► and all I got back was like no thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► i mean i would love to work with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► anytime but please know i'm feeling I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► feeling down here John is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► talking about trying to stop bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► makes you a target for being bullied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► well let me let me tell you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► happened so we got a woman who is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► stand-up comedian from Portland who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► agreed to talk about bullying and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► she got up and her presentation was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► kind of polemical she cheat true on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► the received wisdom that you would find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► on twitter about you know like we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► agree that we live in a patriarchal rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► culture where etc etc etc you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► the all the sort of like we all agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► statements and what follows from that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► uh is this you know is the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► bullying is endemic in our culture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► that it is that it creates all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► terrible outcomes and that it is a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► it's even further evidence that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► that that are I guess that our culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► is unsustainably broken and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► audience started and I i preface the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► whole event by saying like we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► about these ideas in their contemporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► context so we're not just going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► up here and define bullying and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► argue about it it's what's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► about this is like why now why is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► happening now and how does this relate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► you know cats are very popular on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► cats are a perennial topic they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► always cats have been around for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► why are they so contemporary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► bullying to has always existed why now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► well so this woman gets up and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► does give just a definition of what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► imagines the definitely she sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► she unlike the others maybe she opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► it says she opened up by reminding you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► that we all agree on what describes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► problem didn't just open up that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► that was her entire presentation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► just yet fully like you said polemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► yeah was just was describing her not her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► take on it because there was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► imaginative about it but basically just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► reading hashtag bullying presumptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► and then the audience started raising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► their hands to ask questions and i felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► like i was at a fucking chemtrails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► conference every person stood up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► gave a five-minute long speech about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► what they thought about boolean no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► questions that were not even that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► wasn't even the slightest hint of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► question thread into these statements i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► was like being at a tea party town hall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► meeting and I'm sitting on stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► that this hasn't happened at any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► panel that I've moderated and I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► to you know I'm like okay that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► well you know trying to interrupt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► say like is there a question in this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► do you have something at it and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► were shouting talking over me sound so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► weird and then all of a sudden there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► there's like an invisible divide that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► down the middle of the room where think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► the cat guy is kind of setting up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► like okay dokey well and he leans in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► says you know I mean it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► a lot of these bullying a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► stuff we're um people don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► the rules are a lot of that used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► solved in the old days by a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► democracy right if you were a bully you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► got Smackdown by somebody else and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► a little bit of bullying is what keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► people in line and all of a sudden half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► the room was like yeah and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► half of the room could not have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► more appalled and they were like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► know who and I was like whoa whoa that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2753">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► conversation it's not like we are no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► put your Spears down everybody and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► and I was as the moderator sitting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► stage just hoping that the hour would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► it's at that point you know I feel after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► after 75 minutes at that point you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► like I don't know there's a way out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► this there and I was just I was I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► you know anything you say is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► again this is not a value thing but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► you start once one starts feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► pressure you realize that anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► there's nothing you can do or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► gonna sound dismissive of people you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► gonna you're gonna sound like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► taking one side more seriously than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► other and even in deciding like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► there's obviously two sides here you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► going to give a lot of weight to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► side just by acknowledging that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► exists that's right you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► it's like the whole network TV thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► I've always trying to find the two sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► to every issue it's just somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► agreeing that there could be a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► controversial yeah and-and-and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► woman had set up the setup fill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► whole structure of it like well we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► agree that we live in a patriarchal rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► culture even matter people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► well but the thing is like it to at just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► to illustrate what you're saying if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► say well there are two sides to that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► the only other side to that is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► do live in a patriarchal rape culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► like that's the only like you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► actually I don't accept the terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► your argument i want to argue with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► but we're not going to start with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► yeah and as the moderator it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► presentation and by the time she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► done like I couldn't I thought my job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► was not to debate or my job was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► physical facilitate the conversation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► so it's like right okay I mean yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► like we all agree on cheez-its except we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► don't all agree on cheese but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► don't you know if you if you don't agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► with cheese in within the context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► that argument you are basically a cop in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► Ferguson um and so anyway it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► an example of when I walked out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► panel i felt very emotionally raw and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► it had transported me back to the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► on the internet that I least wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► be and I felt for a couple of hours like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► this totally new sensation which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► maybe i am not i can maybe I maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► culture is moving in a direction that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► can't go you know I felt for a for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► brief moment like it was 1969 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► somebody was standing somebody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► confronting me on the street and saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► don't trust anyone over 30 and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► like wait a minute I'm 45 and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► trustworthy and the and the response was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► counter-revolutionary yeah right having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► counterrevolutionary you're over 30 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► that's where we've drawn the line and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► and and and it you know as as history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► has shown don't trust anyone over 30 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► I mean it was it fulfilled the purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► of it but as a rallying cry it can seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► very sensible especially if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► a lot of illegal activities like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► time doing the felony of smoking pot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► probably don't want to trust that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► people over 30 but as a view of life it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► does not have longevity right if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► lucky that it's a moment it's a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► in 1968 i'm sure it made a ton of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► but yeah if you hold on to that as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► you're gonna be really sad on your 30th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► birthday and it's anything amazing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► few subtleties you you'll find things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► that began as things people shouted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► right and then i have this moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► I felt like oh maybe this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► contemporary version of that it is meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/2996">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► you're either on one side of the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► whole like constellation of issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► if you're if you're on the one side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► it then you're uh then you are on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► right side of history and if you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► any other side any one of 50 other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► potential viewpoints are all rejected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► because there's only one but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► only one way of linking all these ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► together and well that's a shame though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► I mean I I can only go by what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► but it's a shame that it was presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► in that way because of all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► you're talking about that seems like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► that could potentially people could find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► I'll get having made a slight difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► agreements but there's the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► most people kind of agree on which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► something that's something we'd rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► not have why is that interesting today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► in a way that it wasn't 30 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► and why is that challenging today and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► was the way it wasn't 30 years ago which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► is of a much more nuanced question it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► it's a fascinating topic icons my excuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► for what it's worth at my kids school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► she's in first grade now and that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► year and this year there's like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► two like real big tentpole things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► are school both of which i think pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► what is this thing called restorative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► practices which sounds really fruity but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► it's basically just this idea of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► to learn to settle agreements by talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► about what actually happened instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► like yelling at people and its really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► neat it's actually ever need any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► one is bullying and you can tell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► every third-grader that place has made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► poster that's on the walls about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► it's just everywhere really advise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► this is a little I don't know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► all that useful just saying no to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► bullying sure that really solves it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► the thing is they want the school once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► you understand the bullying is not okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► I don't know with the net result of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► is but I'm telling you this is a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► I think that the I think that the net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► result is that a lot of kids that are 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► if you said have you you know is they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► bullying in your school they would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► would go what know something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► and-and-and in it in a way considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► how much bullying there was that when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► you know that's I think a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► except except what you know the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► side of that is like like our art I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► are they prosecuting kids like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► adults hyper-vigilant over them me in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► way that one piece of that one piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► it is the basic educational process of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► saying something over and over often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► enough and having different people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► that the same way off enough over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► over that it does start to see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► conventional wisdom so God willing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► that's not gonna have a huge effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► some of his father's beating them up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► home and want to come into school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► find somebody shrimpy to hit that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► much more complicated problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► doesn't come down to as easy as stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► bullying but but somebody somebody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► middle school high school college for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► chance somebody out there started that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► bullying some time for some reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► didn't that the just didn't probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► come out of you know spontaneous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► generation so I mean I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► trying to you know put down the seeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► and I don't think I don't see it like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► used to you know you don't see just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► because the way kids are supervised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► today it's different but I mean yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► mean who knows who knows the the dread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► you have is a little kid know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► walk around this corner i'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► facing this thing and that happens every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► day right probably have you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► wherewhere kid is gonna throw rocks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► you or or or put your head in the toilet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► or whatever Oscars next to their lockers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► lockers never not gonna be next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► locker they're always going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► three or four friends there and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► always gonna have a little relaxation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► time by treating you like less than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► person and that's writing that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► every day and we thought we I mean much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► I've had that Shirin and so have I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► guess I guess the the part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► conversation that's interesting to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► like throughout the whole second half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► the 20th century we have had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► that we that we introduced into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► school's right we're trying to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► we're trying to solve problems in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► adulthood by going not back to our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► childhoods but into the schools of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► kids now and saying like okay well there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► are a lot of racial problems in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► and so we're going to put kids on buses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► and send them all the way across town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► and we're going to we're going to enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► we're going to forcibly integrate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► schools and in so doing we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► solve the racial problems in America and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► it's an example of adults not knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► how to solve that problem in the adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► world and not being willing to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► those changes in their own lives but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► instead deciding that what we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► to do is go into the schools and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► going to we're going to force the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► to resolve the issue by this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► social engineer I exactly was gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► it's a kind of benevolent benevolent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► like you're trying to do so but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► yeah and it's a beautiful it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► beautiful idea the kids you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► thing that's so hard for me to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► somebody likes to think of himself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► trying to do the right thing and being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► principled is I know that if I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► something to someone not just my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► that anybody if I say that something is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► important or I say that I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► something I could see that hundreds even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► seriously hundreds of times i could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► brush your teeth before bed but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► what if I don't brush my teeth every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► night before bed and have them see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► that's cognitive dissonance and yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► importantly show you that's not how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► so like when I was in in Tallahassee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► know this is nothing its people Florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► please relax but I don't think I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► think of a single person i interacted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► with who would have thought themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► on the face of it as a racist and yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► can tell you including me when I moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► to san francisco i think i told you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► but it was maybe two months before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► something that was a weird niggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► thing on the honors kind of the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► of my consciousness became very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► there are so many not white people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► positions of power here everyday a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► that grows up in our town sees asian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► people who are in power they see black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► people who are in power you have a black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► boss and I'm just here to tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► that was not something you saw every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► in places where i lived in ohio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► florida you see it but it wouldn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► would seem weird enough that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► make you change your vision of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► but i did not see the point of the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► I'm going on about is that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► stuff will not seem real until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► actually see it when people just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► telling you that that's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► should happen over and over like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► petri dish of an elementary school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► it's really different from spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► noticing what people are pulling each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► I'm finding a different way to work this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► out i have a black boss and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► whatever what you see everyday is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► I'm saying at the those projects i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► like integration was a culture wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► project we were trying we were trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► two hundred different things you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► affirmative action and and a bra and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► well and busing and affirmative action i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► think was a very positive like had very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► positive results i'm not sure about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► busting and and primarily it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► inconvenience to something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► already inconvenient which is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► your kid up and going to school busing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► was bussing nothing was an unsuccessful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► hack because it is successful hack right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► within encoding is something that takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► an annoying problem and solves it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► potentially in elegant way that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► very in elegant solution that basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► made it clearer than ever will be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► you're going to be fucking super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► inconvenience by this but may that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► is a basic inequality that we can't fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► and so we have to reset where the pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► on the board and have you agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► even they are fixing your basic problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► and and so that the I mean it in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► the long term we have so much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► bullying now in the culture than we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► even when we lose internet stuff done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► you sure about that i mean the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► about the admin internet bullying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► that the internet is just a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► bullying cesspool I mean I'm a 45 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► old man i would go on the internet every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► day and feel in one way or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► bullied and a lot of the bullying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► themselves as primarily as victims you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► know like it's the it's the oldest trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► in the book to get on the internet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► say I am a victim of this oppressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► culture and so I am so mad that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► going to be that i'm going to be hateful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► to everybody i encounter today at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► that is and that is and that's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► the argument against that is that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► you miss Andres now I mean are you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► that the the idea that the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► this woman presented which is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► had a perceived imbalance of power is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► equal to an actual imbalance of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► and so a person can be a person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► perceived themselves to be in a position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► it might as well be that that person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► in a position of less power and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► like listening to a presentation I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► like no that is in that is exactly wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► like just to perceive yourself to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► less power is not anything just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► you feel it doesn't mean it's real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► in the words of Radiohead and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► think the internet is full of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► are like I perceive myself to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► victim of everything and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► every time I go on the internet I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► I'm on a daily crusade to lecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► everybody hey I have an encounter with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► place to place just pedantically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► schooling fools right and left and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► spreading you are spreading evil but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► like people are going to remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► lesson you were meant to be teaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► they're going to remember that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► yeah and so the internet is a giant is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► just a giant Hudson that's an ugly place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► now it's not a place I want to be but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► think ultimately is there less bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► yes is there less bullying is there less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► bullying in seattle than there is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► oklahoma city probably is there less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► bullying in oklahoma city than there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► in lagos yes in almost certainly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► his bullying still rife in in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► outskirts neighborhoods in Shanghai yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► i bet it is because I i guess this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► one of the this is one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► questions of of like secularism is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► if we establish that we are members of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► the animal kingdom which the secular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► half of the of the world you know has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► been a lot of time trying to say like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► are part of the system we are animals we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► are not God beings we are not separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► from our environment we are not we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► we are not significantly different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► animals that we can afford to rule over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► the world without consequence but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► flip side of that is nowhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► animal kingdom is anything fair and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► simultaneously members of this of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► natural system and also imposing upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► technologies and that is if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► fascinating and wonderful because a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► of those thought technologies that take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► us out of the animal kingdom have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► improved our lot in life and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► improving the world but now but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► suggest never presume that any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► things are real or that any of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► things reflect reality they are they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► experiments they are attempts and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► like when you talk about it like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► wanting to try on and I idea like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► jacket yeah so we're we're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► eliminate bullying even though bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► is in the animal kingdom in the natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► bullying is one of the foundational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► methods like every single animal family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► uses precisely bullying as a way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► organizing itself bigger animals squash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► little animals the two you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► litter of kittens establishes their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► their their dominance chain like pigs do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► chickens do it it's a pecking order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► I mean everything we all of our language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► for that stuff comes from watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► animals do it and every animal doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► so if our end game is to eliminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► bullying what is it mean it isn't just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► small little inconvenience that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► that we should be ashamed of and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► that that should that we should continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► to be outraged and appalled by we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► be able to look at it and say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► one of the fundamental principles of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► animal life and we are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► dispense with it we are trying to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► and evolve so that bullying is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► but it is absolutely in everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► so to change it is not just a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► of like go into the schools and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► posters on the walls and indoctrinated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:24 ◼ ► the kids so that they don't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► bullying anymore it's not a small thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► the book kids are seeing bullying in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► every walk of life and in every in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► aspect of human culture and so if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► I just wish that we could talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► in this bigger sense of like okay if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► we're gonna if we're going to evolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► into the Grays like like I'm all for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► let's go but if you're but what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► going to replace bullying with because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► if you go into the offices of Vogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► magazine i guarantee you there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► bullying at every desk if you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► the west wing of the White House [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► bullying is everywhere and it's encoded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► and the more white collar you make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► the more the the subtler it gets but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► subtle bullying is fucking bullying so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► so it just it feels a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► the the posters on the walls of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► schools and the and the attention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► were paying two kids to eradicate what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► we think is this you know this bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► is another to me and in a way up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► potential busing idea which is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► we're going to go into the schools and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► we we can't fix this problem in our own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► we're not even capable of seeing it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► what it is but we don't but we all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► painful memories of being bullied as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► kid and so we're going to go down into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► the schools and create a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► fahrenheit 451 scenario where at where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3954">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► no one is able to say what things are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► one is able to acknowledge reality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► kids are going to be 19 years old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► they're going to come out of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► schools and be like bullying is bad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► have never bullied anyone nor have I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► but it's all you know it's all just a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► like a soup of lives mi i think i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► get what you're saying but I just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► one angle on it though which is that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► reminded of the times I've gone and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► to companies and I always have an easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► laugh when I talk about the signs the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► people leave by the coffee machine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► know where the signs I have your mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► doesn't work here and how there's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► think they have to affect those have are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► pretty consistent i am I don't wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► argue whether bullying is snatching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► animal thing maybe it is i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► might be using that word a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► differently but what I will say is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► when you put up a sign in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► kitchen arm to no one in particular a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► shame song is Yeah right right where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► like you're an asshole because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► not doing this thing that I'm telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► you we all agreed we should do which may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► or may not be true you know the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► if you worry about the cleanliness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► the kitchen it means a lot to you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► keep it clean you know what fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► percentile of people who clean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► kitchen i'll even give you that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► the problem is when you put that sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► the the effects that you have that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► think i mighta shown and not talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► some other shows but I never showed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► a lot of dogs poop in a park near our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► house and at one point somebody had gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► up and put signs around the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► perimeter of the reservoir with noting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► how many piles of poop they had counted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► in the last month the people had left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► their it's sort of like this workplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► yeah but think about that for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► and I just as I is my mind at my age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► goes through what the actual effect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► happening and i think this is related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► there's on the one hand there's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► be a whole bunch of people like a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► people who don't have dogs who could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► like what a stupid sign what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► I don't like poop either but what a dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► sign this is gonna be a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► with dogs who pick up their dogs poop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► we're going hey why are you yelling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► me i'm already doing that if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► that's gonna make them less you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► they're not you that this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► reinforcement that's gonna make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► probably more likely to not want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► because they don't feel applauded for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► doing what's been done they feel yelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► at by this by this warrior who's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► tell them that that's what they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► be doing and you know what the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► importantly arguably i will bet you x 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► that's that 11 out of 13 people who do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► let their dog shit anywhere are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► going to change a single thing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► result of seeing that side it will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► that arrow will have fallen very far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► away from its target that the sign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► you put in the kitchen that ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► yelling at ninety percent of the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► is not going to change the one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► people who are doing that thing so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► i think is part of the problems when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► start out and I you know again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► everything works in different ways with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► different people but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► important to remember that when you set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4138">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► something up with anybody set something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► up as an adversarial relationship i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► understand why we do that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► natural especially if you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► you've been aggrieved by something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► you know something's happening you very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► understanding to to come out of the box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► mad about that the thing I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► important to remember to take bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► for example there's going to be three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► maybe three large amounts 33 mainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► three kinds of kids there's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► kids that are not bullying anybody on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► any conceivable level there are the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► of kids who are unrepentant fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► bullies that hope for home assign is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► going to change absolutely nothing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► but the one that those signs might reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► the people that i'm most interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► this very very quiet little percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► of people who didn't know that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► something they might think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► differently and maybe despite being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► fucking yelled at every turn about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► to act they discovered there's a way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► could change my behavior a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► they would make the world a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► better and it doesn't make me less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► strong to do that that's the people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► admire and that's why i always think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► you go into something yelling you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► going to have a smaller and smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► amount of that super interesting third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► influential people but if you come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► of box like yelling at everybody and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► having a system having a program in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► and basically explain to everybody what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► the problem is before they had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► opportunity to understand it you always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► lose the chance of the subtle people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► might have changed what they do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► now they feel like they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► victimized by being yelled at or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► know what i mean i think that when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► think about although it doesn't lead to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► anything getting that much better it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► just leads to us becoming more callous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► about thinking who else is wrong about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► yeah this is what I'm saying how think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► about all the much more interesting ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► of reaching that subtle group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► science in the kitchen yeah basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► Stalinist signs all around instructing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► everyone on how to live and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:45 ◼ ► guess I guess what it boils down to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4245">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► me is that the endgame for for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► for any school of thought if you ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► somebody to to describe their plan like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► why do they have a certain school of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► thought they will give you a utopian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► answer right the endgame is someday in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► the future when everyone realizes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► truth of this premise and if everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► realizes the truth of this premise then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► we will be living in a world of peace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► and harmony and done it often comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► to one phrase on both either any of 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► different sides you can almost always in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► America today boil it down to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► statement which is I want people to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► free and it's amazing how often that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► line could be subsumed in the rhetoric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► of pretty much anybody and it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► makes sense but there's nobody there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► no George Lincoln Rockwell there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► that many people out there that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► want America to be fascist even people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► you know the people who are saying i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► don't want to spend money for more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► highways and defense or whatever like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► you're also a hardcore libertarian boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► principal zero of that is I want people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► I want me to be free right and the panel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► scholarships for people they want people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► to be free because they're saying in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► past this is not worked out these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► have not even had a chance to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► the table that's gonna help them be free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► but there's nobody there almost nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► out there who thinks that what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► doing is making people less free and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► and the and so the so the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► that every one of those scenarios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► involves wanting everybody to be free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► and all we have to do to accomplish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► is just that everyone not be free in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► this one small way which is that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► and and if everybody would just get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► line about this one thing that we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► all be free and ultimately that is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► every single ideology is true because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► we all agreed on anything then yes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► would be in we would be able to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► libertarian free-market paradise or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► you know uh a white homeland and I De [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► Niro it gets so narrow it's like a no-no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► engineer would take somebody seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► if they said we want to this jet will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► fly super far as long as it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► yeah right exactly know how we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► re-engineer these other points of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► is not going to change one factor about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► anything without changing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► else about the entire project so with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► bullying the premise seems to be we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► to eradicate bullying when really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► question is how do you make a good world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► where there's always going to be two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► percent bullies like yes you could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► a perfect world if you eliminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► bullies but there are always going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► two percent bullies and so how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► minimize the creation of bullies and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► yeah and and at what happens with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► bullying is that it is that there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► bully is the bad guy right but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► the five friends that maybe would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► maybe would be off making projects with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► construction paper but somehow if when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► bullying is ok those five friends jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► on the bandwagon every and die exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► it's what you're talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► wanted you want to get those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► friends that maybe follow the guy if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► he's bullying but also would follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► somebody if they were dancing and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► want to say like don't follow the below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► fully follow the dancer like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► that's the culture that we're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► create what is that culture created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► putting posters up in the in the coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► no it's not apple seeds i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► people almost ever see themselves in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► those things make it basically selfish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► the American thing part of our the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► American experiment that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► no we see otherwise the other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► are rightly or wrongly being accused of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► yeah if the sign said if the sign said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► it has been four days since someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► named Merlin smoked a cigar in this park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► you would look at that sign and you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► like huh that's interesting i wonder how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► many Merlin's there are smoking cigars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► in this part of hazardous get your dicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► those dicks as you let up a cigar in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► no we never see ourselves in science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► because that's not that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► challenge of creating a world of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► beings is to not think about a utopia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► the challenge is to is to treat every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► situation individually and to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► difficult work of you know if if we if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► everybody practice no child left behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► the schools would be producing geniuses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► but the problem is it's a utopian idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► it doesn't work because you can't apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► it you can't have one textbook that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► works in every school in the country you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► can't have one premise about bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► every single kid is different and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► is impossible it's impossibly hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► create a uniform culture and this I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► attempt to impose like a super structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► and say everybody is the same we are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► the end this is true of us all in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► pursuit of a utopia a utopian end where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► if we can we can eradicate this then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► will all be living in the light and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► just it's it's the it's the way in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► every ideology is exactly the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► every other one and they all are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► know they all crash on the rocks as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► as they encounter one person who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► want to go to doesn't want to go along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► I do not want to go and I and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► yeah or or I'm you know or I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► definitely curate the topics of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► public discussion i have a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► better so that I am exist your farewell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► to the Troops so that I am dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► exclusively with caps and twerking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► sympathetic fellow and not at all with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► that you know with whatever the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► hot-button issues are right now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► people are trying to you know work bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► where social engineering where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► engineering is is etching its groove in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► our in our cultural moment you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► don't believe that it works unless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► super train in which case it absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► traditional third anniversary gift is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► leather series so I was thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► getting some chaps I'm a gun belt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► might look good with a gun belt several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► times i have been in a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► there have been chaps available to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► really yeah classic and at whole havin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► ass exposing chaps they're one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► great moments for me and a thrift store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► was in this in the little cowboy town of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► Monroe Washington I was dating a girl at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► the time who was very like a she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► well she was a Firedancer that was her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► job a a naked Firedancer to be specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► Wow and she had a lot of tattoos and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► was very exotic and beautiful girl and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► was dating her at the time and I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► monroe and i found in a thrift store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► they're a pair of white fringed chaps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► a petite size so brother and I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► and they were spectacular oh my any fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► if they fit her perfect she wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► wear them and she did want to wear them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► oh my god and we want to honor my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► I really did and I you know I won't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► anymore about it except that it was a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► was a great man how many of those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► there even in the world and that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► should find them and that they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► fit and that she would like them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► so kinky Cinderella yeah it really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► relationship and so after that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► like well maybe I should have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► chance haha and I I think you hit a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► journey vika I and I am and I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► several chaps come my way and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENrQ77I/4777">TS</a>]