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Ep. 122: "Parliament of the Moment"

 

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00:00:24   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/24">TS</a>]

00:00:29   hello hey John hi Merlin has it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/29">TS</a>]

00:00:33   good how are you going I'm going it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   early it's pretty early is early pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/36">TS</a>]

00:00:40   early but uh but you know I I'm living a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43   new way got a new whole new life so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/43">TS</a>]

00:00:46   i feel like this isn't even early for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   wow I just can't talk about just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   come on bring it you know really tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   I'm tired of being on the wrong side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/56">TS</a>]

00:00:56   oh just like up and going and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00   living and you're achieving ah yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/60">TS</a>]

00:01:07   yeah he just dodging bullets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   yeah no I'm no I'm definitely not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   putting out fires i am living in the now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   and in the past and in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/75">TS</a>]

00:01:19   oh wow yeah why is that it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/79">TS</a>]

00:01:23   anything in particular this it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   this change is just your schedule gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   busy no it's just you know what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   it was just that i decided i decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/89">TS</a>]

00:01:33   that every single book and pamphlet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/93">TS</a>]

00:01:38   website link i had ever been given to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/98">TS</a>]

00:01:44   life improvement style a philosophy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/104">TS</a>]

00:01:52   was just going to let him sit down over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   the course of a weekend I was just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   to digest it all on implement it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   the best way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   yeah yeah you're gonna let that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   piled up its like the old like old new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   york times or something just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   really sit down and just really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/125">TS</a>]

00:02:05   yeah well the thing is a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   words of the same roof between uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   between philosophy so i was able to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   of go through and you know kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/131">TS</a>]

00:02:14   when you originally learn to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16   fractions you know you kind of cross off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   these these sort of similar words like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/138">TS</a>]

00:02:24   when you're doing long division [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/144">TS</a>]

00:02:25   you know I still do stuff on doing long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26   division that I learned in third grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   and I probably don't need to but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   like I'm doing better division if I show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   my work I feel that way too well with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35   lot of stuff although times tables i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   very proud of having memorized my times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   tables a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/159">TS</a>]

00:02:40   and so you know I you'll never catch me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/160">TS</a>]

00:02:44   rolling my eyes up to to remember my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/164">TS</a>]

00:02:48   time stable system 7 I was 6 times 7 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/168">TS</a>]

00:02:52   Wow hi I'm AKA you know like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/172">TS</a>]

00:02:56   and actually 67 was a very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/176">TS</a>]

00:03:00   equation if you think those what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/180">TS</a>]

00:03:04   that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05   I want to be the one hundred different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   multiplication problems that create the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   times tables right so angry so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   figure you get you know if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   like 1 x 2 into x 2 and those are at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   very far left end of the curve six times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   seven there was a very long tail seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   times eight and six times seven both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   took me this is like the last two that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   learned i found them incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/206">TS</a>]

00:03:27   difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   well and so this is what y 6 times 7 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   so important to me because six times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33   seven was the first one I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   oh because I because 42 is such a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/215">TS</a>]

00:03:40   number who and six times seven seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/220">TS</a>]

00:03:45   be a dick you know six times seven just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   seems to produce nothing right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   it's just like six is there but seven is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   a weird number we just wanna multiply in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/231">TS</a>]

00:03:54   that way like seven half dozen of eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   it seems pretty random yeah but that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   know that happens like okay well how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   many are in a bushel of six of them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   right so how many do we have seven of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04   them you know the guy i find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   doing that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   sure but six times seven was a such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11   ungainly and awkward equation produce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/251">TS</a>]

00:04:15   such a beautiful number 42 that it stood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/255">TS</a>]

00:04:18   out in my head and so it was like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/258">TS</a>]

00:04:22   the linchpin it was the capstone of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/262">TS</a>]

00:04:27   whole well that's the wrong way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   getting should be a capstone 0 gateway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/271">TS</a>]

00:04:31   capstone is the first one you put it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   the last one you can keep not a keystone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   then you know it's not a keystone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   guess it would be a cornerstone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   I would then I could work i came over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   for a rock i could work either direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   from from 40 to write it because I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/283">TS</a>]

00:04:47   six times seven so if you say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   seven times eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/289">TS</a>]

00:04:50   I know like I can work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   42 went from 42 in either direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56   it helped me and help me you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   memorize that it was an errand medical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   stake in the ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/301">TS</a>]

00:05:02   yeah that's right that's good 67 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   did you had all this stuff some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   was electronic i'm guessing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   those things you printed out probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   since the early 2000s think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   leadership and see Iration so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   print stuff out for me people people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17   don't i don't typically print stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   even when i'm asked to print stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   yeah education considering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   well yeah and I also just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   printers really factors God sleep are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/326">TS</a>]

00:05:30   still I remember when printers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   described as being on the way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   currently obsolete in what was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/335">TS</a>]

00:05:39   1999b yeah because the laser rider when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   the laser came out with the mac and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   could have like a mac ac30 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   laserwriter and you could make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   production-quality publication that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   life-changing but it wasn't long before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/352">TS</a>]

00:05:53   cooking you know maybe we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/353">TS</a>]

00:05:54   this production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/354">TS</a>]

00:05:55   yeah seems like we make a lot of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   remember that you've ever worked in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   office where you would just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00   everybody in the office got the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   like 30 sheets of paper every day I used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   to work currency at piper jaffray which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   was a investment company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   yeah i'm gonna head like a hole full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   paper detectable floors they had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   and anything that they their office was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   in a building in downtown Seattle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   was designed by the same guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   designed the world trade center and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25   was like a proto World Trade Center this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   building was built in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/388">TS</a>]

00:06:29   mid-sixties and it's a much smaller sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/389">TS</a>]

00:06:33   of you know like archetype of that style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/393">TS</a>]

00:06:37   of concrete construction and if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   at it knowing that it was designed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   the same guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/402">TS</a>]

00:06:42   it kind of takes your breath away you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   like oh my god it is sort of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   little world trade center and the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/406">TS</a>]

00:06:50   three floors of this building which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   should be the most expensive offices in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   it and could be some of the nicest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   offices in downtown Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   are like the windows are papered over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   and it's just full of boxes of papers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/422">TS</a>]

00:07:07   long-ago business transactions but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/427">TS</a>]

00:07:11   like the whole the whole reason we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/431">TS</a>]

00:07:15   encouraged to start using computers was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   that they were going to do away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   paper and now i get i get five emails a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/439">TS</a>]

00:07:24   week from people saying well print this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25   out fill it out then fax at Brown my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   John like God I go die I would rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/448">TS</a>]

00:07:31   not do the job I would rather not do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   would not rather not get paid the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   well whatever it is it's how anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   there's a relationship that will involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   money you're gonna have to send almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/460">TS</a>]

00:07:43   always especially with large large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   Institute's institutions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   organizations you almost always have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   send them like three pieces of paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   always but you know what's weird though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53   is if I think back to that time and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   was working in office i was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/475">TS</a>]

00:07:56   mostly about the time I was well admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/476">TS</a>]

00:07:59   early mid nineties i was making a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   courtroom exhibits that we would print [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   out sometimes on a very costly color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04   printer but but the truth was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/484">TS</a>]

00:08:07   nothing felt real like nobody could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   relax until it had printed out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   multiple copies you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   really yet it had it wasn't a thing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   didn't matter that we're doing it setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   you know automated backups and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   like that didn't matter it didn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   until it was something you could put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   a fedex envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23   well as you know i mean it's a cliche to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   say but well as I was going through my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   dad's papers probably a refrigerator box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/507">TS</a>]

00:08:31   full of paper that what without you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/511">TS</a>]

00:08:35   had a receipt receipt school photo at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   the top at the girl that sure but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   at the top you know the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   gibberish that that that used to be at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/521">TS</a>]

00:08:45   the top of every email you printed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   and then it would be like hi honey how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   are you I've just been thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52   you okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   write me when you can and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   printing out emails not just the emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   that he receives but like also printing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   out is part of the email like and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   know emails he get back like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   everything's good dad talk to you soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   just like wow you're printing these out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   and partly it's he's putting it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/552">TS</a>]

00:09:12   I he wants to have a record but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/552">TS</a>]

00:09:17   a big part of it was it wasn't real it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   wasn't real until I mean look at it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   the computer screen maybe like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   yeah i mean that's put too fine a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23   on it but I think for a lot of people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24   was working 2.com I told you the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27   about our CTO there who thought that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   should invent email attachments because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31   that we need idea that he was completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   backward you nothing he didn't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/573">TS</a>]

00:09:34   scroll wheel on his mouth confused him i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   told you about this guy and he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   i think his work flow was a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   workflow in the late nineties which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   the same way that today we would read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   email and you might flag it or you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   if you're me you turn that into like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/587">TS</a>]

00:09:48   action somewhere else that's it that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   tip anything you printed out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   something that you either had to read or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/593">TS</a>]

00:09:54   you have to do something about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/594">TS</a>]

00:09:55   that's the way you did your email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   anytime you got to ask for old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   when you got to an email you actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   something about you printed out put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/600">TS</a>]

00:10:01   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   otherwise it wasn't real right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   you post a thing any post a might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   misremembering this but did you post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   something with your dad's letter to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   car dealership about his last payment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/613">TS</a>]

00:10:13   oh I don't think that was me and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   you know I think that might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   maybe I was Dan Benjamin could be i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   when mi like when people put those kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   of things i love that ephemera but now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   have a lot of that stuff but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   know I think a lot of my dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   correspondence is still protected under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   some sort of lawyer-client privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   foundation under various transit laws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   intelligence but i'm telling you i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   decided to adopt all principles of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   self-improvement i'm so excited to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   about this yeah and one of them is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/647">TS</a>]

00:10:48   like I just woke up at the crack of dawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   this morning i made a blender of raw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/650">TS</a>]

00:10:54   eggs and I'm gonna get that Iran regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/654">TS</a>]

00:11:00   wash that museum in Philadelphia put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03   fist in the air and then I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   immediately writing the best work of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/665">TS</a>]

00:11:09   life and I just that one weekend of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   reviewing this materials and now here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   am at a time that formerly would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   been pretty daunting to me i've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19   done so much today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   wow yeah I'm fine and you know i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   here i'm getting married haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   there's a lot I mean you know I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   just thinking about it but I'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   over the hump on it feel like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   anybody in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34   I you know I read a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   stuff that said that married people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   happier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   yes and so you live longer John if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   made me so you'll take fewer risks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   seemed like a thing that had you know up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   until just a just a little while ago I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/705">TS</a>]

00:11:49   was pretty anti-marriage but now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   re-evaluating this is evaluated a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/711">TS</a>]

00:11:55   ever I i would love to hear about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/715">TS</a>]

00:11:56   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57   seeing all of that at one time in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   place that's a lot of that deep data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   really sink in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   yeah whereas if you're eating you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/722">TS</a>]

00:12:03   piecemeal throughout the month just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   little nibble here in newtonville there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   but you you really set down your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   information transformant you sat down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   and said love rain over me tell me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   should I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   that's right i went into the tank went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   into the tank and and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   formaldehyde of self-knowledge is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/738">TS</a>]

00:12:21   permeated all my cells ask you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   getting up early you might get married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   you're gonna hear is your problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   here's the problem a lot of these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32   lead me to the inescapable conclusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   that i need to log off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/755">TS</a>]

00:12:38   oh you mean the internet I need to log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/758">TS</a>]

00:12:42   off the internet because of productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   well because of productivity and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   of spiritual the cleanliness you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/767">TS</a>]

00:12:52   it's not just enough to not read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   comments section because the Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   has become a comment section the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   internet and so to avoid the comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/778">TS</a>]

00:13:04   page you have to avoid everything I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/784">TS</a>]

00:13:08   I remember just it was not a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   years ago that I felt like a genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   because I was getting my news from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   Twitter then it was a thousand times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   better than getting my news from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   news but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   twitter is the news yeah it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   news and you feel the same bad way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   yet you're it's like it's like the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   it's like like have reverted all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   back to that era when people couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   take their eyes off of CNN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   oh yeah and it's like everyone headline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/813">TS</a>]

00:13:37   news i remember i was living with my on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38   my horrible stepfather when headline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   news got popular and he would just leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   he would sit there in a chair and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   the 30-minute somebody with Michael and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   cycle day long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   yeah and every every every half hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   they would add one little new not even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/832">TS</a>]

00:13:56   new bit but like sometimes just a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   to the scroll that one word would change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   like instead of pending it would say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/840">TS</a>]

00:14:04   know it would say something else you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/844">TS</a>]

00:14:08   know like that not that away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   it's a pretty long time ago also now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   you bet you're right and I'm and now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   you still see that today you get to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   airport it's just want to all CNN to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   anything that's for I really don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   who that's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   well but unfortunately now twitter has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   become this like whatever that whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   the news it is that twitter has decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27   is the important news which sometimes is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   Twitter still is very proud of itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/869">TS</a>]

00:14:30   when what it decides the news is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/870">TS</a>]

00:14:33   same as what CNN decides the news-times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   does a pretty good job and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   amazing job especially at first except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   now it's doing an amazing job and i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   back as a person watching the freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   news which is not a person I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   I don't want to follow the news closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   following the news closely does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/889">TS</a>]

00:14:52   produce happiness or productivity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/892">TS</a>]

00:14:55   was reading your papers John the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   you ready sure wasn't some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   things predate twitter but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   telling me stuff about the news that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/902">TS</a>]

00:15:03   reflect and realize that it applies now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   the the the the the magnetism of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/906">TS</a>]

00:15:10   constant news updates seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/910">TS</a>]

00:15:16   inescapable for for anything you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   remember like oh there was such promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   on the internet got it had such promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   yeah it's gonna be analysis and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/924">TS</a>]

00:15:27   you know that's still twitter is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   because you get a you get a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   voices and you can put together an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/931">TS</a>]

00:15:34   analysis that but but still the cult is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/934">TS</a>]

00:15:37   chase the news change the updates and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/937">TS</a>]

00:15:42   didn't it just it's just not good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   it's not good for person it's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   for one I can't tell how serious your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   being so I'm gonna act like you're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   a little bit serious i I'm i used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   have a habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/952">TS</a>]

00:15:53   this is a terrific example of life hacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   gone awry one of things that I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   probably starting in the early two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   thousands whenever whatever the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   was that you could have tabs i had a tab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/961">TS</a>]

00:16:05   set where with one like command-click it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/965">TS</a>]

00:16:09   would open like six different news sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   in a window and then I just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   scroll through each one and look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   of them but it's so strange how that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   all it took to create six tabs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   information was me hitting the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   you know spot key and clicking and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/982">TS</a>]

00:16:26   could have 35 minutes of sadness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   your resolution in my life but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31   would only be slaked by going back a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   minutes later and doing exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/993">TS</a>]

00:16:34   thing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   yeah not unlike my email inbox but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   that's a different show I feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   if all the news I God was delivered once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/999">TS</a>]

00:16:44   a month in a brown package wrapped with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   white string along with some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:51   staples like eggs and milk some eggs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   milk some lard got a lot sir it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:58   eggs milk large salt grass here at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   office of doing that is resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   rebrand as staples staples within you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   absolutely the basic shit you need once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   look that should just staple should just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   start calling themselves staples and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   actually sell staples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   not in there and say what's up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   news and it's actually not that much new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:18   just get back to work you know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   can do they could wrap the lard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   sugar and bacon and coffee in the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   you read the rapper yet as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   she'll get there you open up your beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   put your stuff in your in your like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   dugout cooler underneath your cabin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   then you're like a look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   holy cow the Japanese bombed Pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   Harbor and that is about as current as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   you you need to be you know every two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   weeks every month if you just gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   round up of the news and you'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   oh alright well it seems like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   is just about the same i mean anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   and is there any news out of gaza in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   last three months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   that couldn't have come out of gaza in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   1972 like yeah i could just be reading I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:01   could be reading the newspapers from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   Nixon administration's you want to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   your anger fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   I so don't know what I want my anger to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:10   be so stale I wanted to be the stainless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   thing in my cupboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14   oh man had its ups talking at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   time and not only am I stoking the anger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19   but I'm stoking like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   I'm you know I'm smoking like confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   emotions in me right where where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:29   like oh there's so many opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32   it's not healthy to see that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   opinions i guess is what it is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   we we like to think oh the more opinions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   you get the more you know the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   well-rounded your eventual take on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:44   things will be but in fact like the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:48   polemical opinions you read the more it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:51   feels like well all opinions are equally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   all opinions are equally unfounded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   maybe on partly also they're ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:01   somewhat recently updated it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   not opinion of five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   alright it's an opinion on this one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09   two degree change in something hopeless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   not hopeless but it's something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   really awful that i can personally do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   very much about today but me getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   that you know it also has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   self-selecting bias of making more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   more even I think unconsciously seek out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   the little sub tunnel that goes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   stuff that you agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   what makes you feel angry in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   that makes you happy well under this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   the thing I mean how do you feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   killing babies what the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   deserve it or the the wetlands see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   he go that's what you've just opened up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42   a can of worms that I I thought I set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   their own purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   yeah that and I and I had a mechanical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   arm said Merlin do not open and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   opened it immediately I did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   what I can't even read the label which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   babies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55   ah i mean good babies back babies but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:59   that but they put the whole but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   concept of killing babies is such like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   universal galvanizing flaming sword and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:07   it fits into a tweet so well killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   babies bad send and you know I look out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:13   the window and look out the window and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   scan across the city and I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   all the dead babies through history so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:21   many dead babies really like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:25   pallets of God and you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   is that really the thing that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   that I that i'm going to like permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   have motivate me and it in a day like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:37   prevent it to think about it at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   i'm not just about to say that to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   thinking about is good but just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44   yeah I think I'm gonna get you off dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:48   babies four seconds thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   I I remember feeling this feeling when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   had been away and on my own and fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   for a while and then you go spend some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   time with your relatives with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   friends we know and you get to you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   and you read read books and you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03   Harpers and stuff and think you got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04   going on I just right you know it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   whenever I would go back home and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   don't mean to make people sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   provincial and I'm fancy but it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   really struck me how much and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:15   this is so not part of my universe but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   think it's a lot of people's universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   like watching the local news at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   it's something like all old people did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   when I was a kid it was something my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23   family did you always watch the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:24   news and you watch the national news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   here and now today like I kind of can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   even fathom having been out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   particular palette of babies for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   going back to it and just seeing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35   how how awful on every level the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   reporting is not only awful in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   the subject matter but also how its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:42   and how narrowly is presented and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   basically if you got your impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   about life from watching your own local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   news you would understand that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   fifty percent chance of rain societies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   falling apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   yeah every night all you get is this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   thing about like the you get a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   cloud idea of how often given thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   happens and yeah if you could keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   seeing the same mugshot of black guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   supposedly stab somebody or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   over and over i got a young person in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:09   in a in a park standing in a dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   parking lot with a microphone telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   you about an apartment fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   we're like for grandmothers and a cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   died and it's like that is not essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   information it it just Stokes a thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:23   me it is it is meant to stoke thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   us that that you know that where we feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:30   on the verge of catastrophe at all times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   yes I do not want to know about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35   latest apartment fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   I just don't need to and and as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:42   empathetic person I need to I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:46   make sure that the empathy is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   channeled in the right direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   you know what I mean like that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52   what that is doing is its its opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:55   the spigot are on my on my empathy maple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1375">TS</a>]

00:23:00   man is letting the empathy syrup drip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   drip drip drip drip onto the forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   floor and we're not nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06   I'm not collecting it in a bucket and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   I'm not making and I'm not putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   over delicious pancakes just ripping my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   empathy syrup on the forest floor it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   not it's not what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   anyway so I am worried very worried but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:22   i'm worried that all of the all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   self-help manuals that I have digested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   in the last weekend point to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:30   inescapable conclusion that maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:35   best thing the best practices are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:39   for someone like me at it it's to log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:44   off over and if I were someone who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   not given to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   abuse of substances maybe I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:54   someone who did not abuse the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   substance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:57   oh yeah but I am a substance abuser and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:01   the internet is another thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04   can't you know because I've been lately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:07   I've been asking myself the question I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   sitting there I'm staring at my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   the world is going by my you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   child is growing up but the water is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   boiling over on the stove and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   staring at my phone and there's a voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   in my head that's conscious of it and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   saying look at you look at you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   sitting here staring at your phone you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   know things are going awry and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   the other voice the recording voice says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36   well what would you have me do not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   at my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   that seems irresponsible and right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42   and I don't have an answer for like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   you are if if I'm living in this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   world where I am a where I'm a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   social media where I where I perceive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:56   that that's important to my career or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   important to mine self-expression or my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   sense of involvement belonging then yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:05   what would you have me do not look at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   phone and I kit that's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   and so I had to go i had to go step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   and say like well what has Facebook done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   for me lately and that I didn't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:19   answer Marilyn uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   what is facebook done for you lately you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   don't even go on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:24   i deactivated my account years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   so what so what do you think you tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   when you think would happen to me if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   stopped going on Twitter just stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:34   I mean it'sit's as we record this it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   monday i know you've had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   knowledge to match your last night you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   really are you really up for this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42   weekend long been reading reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   reading and my brain is open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   yeah I synapses are open I want some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:50   that patented hotdogs lady's computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:55   thinkI yes yes for Kennedy culture think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   you wisdom that's that's what I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   I know I'm relish these talks uh well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:07   got a couple of thoughts you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:08   know the only taught used to work at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   newsstand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11   I heard interesting interview you worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   there for three years did you say maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15   longer it was the longest my newsstand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   job is the longest job I ever had but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   you know back in those days or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   today you pick up a copy of The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:21   Economist I used to subscribe to The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   Economist now I'm not here now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   understand even mentioning the name of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   magazine we're going to get into bios or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   whatever but you know whatever people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   you know preach or advise at me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:35   the importance of staying informed via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   you know forcing a fire hose into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   mouth for 18 hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   I'm always tempted to say you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   one in the past 12 when I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   wanted to stay informed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   I one of the best things i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   person can do this is not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   for you but this help me is to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   exactly what you're saying which is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   spend less time seeking out new sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   that are basically about what's changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   in the last 12 hours the arm and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:04   know i think he is really old guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   thinking I guess but gets find a source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   that you like one reason i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   economist is that you can go through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   you can read we've probably talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   this you do and read those first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   whatever half dozen pages which has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   a paragraph or two about what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   happening all over the world and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:23   should i think what you might want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   person environment the economist is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   Tory but they're very Pro capital but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   with that said it's I mean you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   thing is you could also pick out which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   of like they do read five different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36   encyclopedias well no you read an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   encyclopedia enough to know what to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   at next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   so whatever one's given sources the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:42   reason i like that though is it is a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   of going in and saying wow I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   the name of this country in africa and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   they're having a problem down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   that's something i didn't hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   with the firehose I had jammed in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:52   well right that's and that and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:55   the economist is great for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:56   they treat like they do talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   world but the reason I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   quickly the only reason i mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   though is that I and I'll take out my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04   Long Knives the people who are ok with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   unintentionally or unconsciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   spending three to six hours a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   consuming what's changed in news and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14   last few minutes or hours i wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   they could find the time to sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   once a week and read all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   even just that digest the information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24   because that that's the real test if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   really care that much about what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   on in the world why don't you sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   like a gentleman and find out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   actually going on in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   yeah um and and that's not the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   thing to do but i think that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   place to start because now if you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37   follow all of that stuff that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   that's what smart people do is they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   at different sources but they also try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   to get at least a gloss on what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:45   happening all over the place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   yeah that's what smart people did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   look at a you know look at that even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   Clemenza Clemenza a new Hitler was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   problem years before anybody else did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   you know what Clemenza had you know club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   listen if you're going to need to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   sauce who for a bunch of guys we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:03   going to do you get a little meatball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   yeah you know some Tomatoes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   what stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   no one's paying attention yeah i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   know i mean i struggle with because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:11   got back and forth with you know in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   location and my personal stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   starting with what you're saying there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   a school of thought it's all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   unplugging the router which I think can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   be useful if you've got a deadline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   you just need to make words on a page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   that Grady a good short-term thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   in some ways it's a little similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   cold turkey with the substance but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32   the end I think it's about sort of read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   read digging the road you know I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:39   think about wagons of wagon wheels ruts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   in the road and how hard it is to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   out of any kind of habit like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   think you kind of have to learn to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46   mindful on your own that you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   that you know my my problem is more just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:52   more than just the regular consumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   of news you know that this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   problem we've talked about before it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   problem that's you know kind of been it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   was true even in in the daily newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   days if you got the daily newspaper you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   would be reading the same period that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06   leave watching evening news like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   said but what's happening what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   different about the internet is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   there is this semiotic discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:15   happening simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   yeah you know and so you're you're it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   not just that you're reading the Daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   News it's that you're reading the Daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   News and then every single editorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:26   call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:26   come in the country including the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:30   including a UH a wide number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   editorial columns from like a the nation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:37   of islam and editorial columns from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   Socialist Workers paper and editorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   columns from like five or six written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   high school students and you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   mean like like I i'm having semiotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   overload i do not want any more analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   I'm not getting anything out of it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   don't feel like the the ball is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59   advanced culturally by every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02   person having their anger there every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:06   single person expressing their doubts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   and confusion in the form of a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   know what they imagine is the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   solution right an announcement and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   write their dead here are my doubts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   couched in a in a in the in the form of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20   a program is anything like a monograph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   for me out right and so that seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:26   the thing I cannot avoid I i turn on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   mean i follow a really wide swath of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   people and thinkers I try to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35   really wide ranging sort of balanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   group of people that i'm following and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:43   so what that produces is a twitter feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:44   that's like the the Israelis are them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   are the most evil people who ever lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   on the word on the face of the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   there just like Hitler so you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   the worst most argumentative party ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   yeah and then absolutely the next tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   is like the Palestinians are using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   children as shields and then the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:01   one is like did you ever notice about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   did you ever notice that the Ukrainian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   government is you know is infiltrated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   russian spies and then the next as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   literally the next week is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   Russia has a right to maintain the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   integrity of our own borders and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   it's just like i'm i'm i'm reading all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   of the propaganda from every sect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   there's no it ends up almost being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   you're almost find yourself getting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   information from amateur press releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   and and then and then and every 15th one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34   will be a professional press release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   that just seems to be like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   sit in comparison like incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   mealy-mouthed than and non-committal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   it's just like oh my god I I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47   to be I do not want to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   parliament of of the moment you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:54   yeah I will I want to be in I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   read the historical record I find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   interesting and I want to sit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   Algonquin Hotel with a bunch of smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   people and listen to their like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   witticisms about things but I'm what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   listening to is the Minister of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   Information of 1,000,000 sex most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:16   them are a sect of one or a sect of four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   or sect of 40 and a and I feel like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:25   then on and then over on facebook of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   course it's it's um it's all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   ministers of information for a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   different families i don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   you know and so anyway I guess it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:39   two different baby problems you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   pallets of babies on Twitter and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   you got literally thousands of photos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   fresh babies present raises fresh happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   babies either kind of the the linchpin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   hear ya babies babies which are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   you know like you are you're being shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   that they are being swaddled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   privilege which you already know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:01   going to have to really confront later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   like I look over on facebook and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   like look at all these baby swaddled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07   privilege and then I go over to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   and they're like all these baby swans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   and a privilege and it's like hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:15   don't want to be a part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   conversation is not interesting to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   anymore and I thought it was that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   what's great and what can you add to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   that you know anyone and what can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   derive from it you know and then this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   this is why i feel like i need to lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   off because I sit down and I try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   write my own thing and I go this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   and I'm just another person i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   another person I don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35   another person i have never been another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   person that's not good i I'm this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   I am dog person not a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:43   it happens mainly on your phone right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:47   happens mainly on my phone and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:48   the great things i was i moved my eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:52   desktop from my house to my office so at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:58   three o'clock in the morning i am no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   longer sitting at my desk in my home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   reading about firing pins or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:04   right there yeah exactly following you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   know like I I it's not as fun to sit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   your phone and like read the biography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:14   of Wellington and so that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17   moving my my computer down in my office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   has been a has been very healthy and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:23   might be a thing where i go back to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   know what I originally was on Twitter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   only did it from my desktop computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   I didn't have because I didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   smartphone i just had a flip phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   you know it might be one of those stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:38   but you know what that feels like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   feels like I only drink brown liquor or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   I only drink beer on wednesdays are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:45   know it feels like I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:46   yeah no I get that no reason i say it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:49   a i mean i think one first line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:53   defense if you haven't already is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   turn off as many notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   I don't have any notification alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   well I i find out every day how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   people have notifications for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03   like at responses that kind of blows me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:05   yeah those people either and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   they had you know that you know who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   are because they replied you instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   know yet another thing you can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   is a very low level room high-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:16   silly my fact which is that you can the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19   apps that you find yourself most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20   attracted to you might want to move that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   way off the front page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   it's not that much harder to get to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   if there's something that's what lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   call an attractive nuisance I i find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   even something as simple as for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   definitely taking out of the dock and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   little shelf at the bottom and further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   to that taking it off of the homepage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   further to that take it to a faraway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39   page and putting it all in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   folder I can still just as easily search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   for it but it's still more work than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   turning on my phone and hitting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   button which is I maybe you're not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   this but for me I'm like a little monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   when I when I hit that scene at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   screen it's i am like a little what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   almost like a logo on our band that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   can see my little cylinders flipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   around trying to figure which one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   these distractions I should click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   first I very rarely click on the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   let me write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   i'm more likely going to hit something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   like email or tweet pot or Twitter you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:09   know in my case like that that can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   um here's what I here's what I click on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   my phone ok but and this is you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   I'm I've always been embarrassed about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   this I'm kind of embarrassed to share it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:19   but I go to turn on my phone I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:23   my email and generally i have a feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   of dread this has the emails loading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   then I go to Twitter and I generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:33   have a kind of a mild feeling of dread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   as x @ replies load like which person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:39   going to yell at me for something that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   wrote uh two weeks ago right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:46   that feeling of dread goes away when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47   read a bunch of like the replies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:51   are trying to enlist me in some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   hijinks you know but it's that it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   it's that like oh god don't let this be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   bad and then it's like oh this is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   this was full of praise and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   great i have that like up and down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05   then I go over and I i click on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   and almost half the time that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:12   interface the app is slow to load or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:16   facebook at some you know Facebook right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   now anytime to unconsciously hold your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   breath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:20   yeah and and right now they want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   download their messenger a pirate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   refused to do it so i have like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   this backlog of messages that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   have sent me in facebook that i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   read oh my god because facebook what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   insists that I download their thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   can't read it and so I haven't read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   and maybe some of those people are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   time-sensitive help but you have crabs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:46   so sorry shouldn't have tried to contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   me on facebook and then I then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:51   fourth thing I do on my phone as I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52   play solitaire I'll and that's why I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:55   don't spoil the image on my suggestion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   is he more video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58   I don't see that's the thing i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59   have enough video games and I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   serious you need to get yourself i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   gonna suggest a game called threes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   means you would really like lives is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   that does that is that like is it titled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   by its by like age appropriateness yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   now configure breeds that thing is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   just telling you whenever I find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17   you know and antithetical to lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   things but when i find myself going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   her and I go to read this dumb news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24   article I don't want to read and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25   loads slowly and then there's a pop-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   that I have to dismiss and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   a slideshow to find out you know 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   important celebrity boobs and like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   what am i doing i close and open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   threes and this little song goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   done done done and then Anna but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   bump and move little cards little tiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   around and I find it incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   centering and I might be there in 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:45   minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:46   so can and it's a better it's a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   thing it's a waste of time but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   solitary a political non-emotional waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:54   of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   C&I you know and I i play this fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   solitaire game I used to play a mahjongg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   and for that I think that played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03   mahjongg like around the first idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   about how to play mahjong i would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06   along so much better in my neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   if I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:08   oh yeah I loved by I had to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   mahjongg off my phone because I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14   exclusive of almost everything else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17   before that of course it was Tetris I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   um and I find that if you know I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   know i'm not alone and all right of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   course we've talked about before tetris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   it was minesweeper but if you could get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:29   paid to play minesweeper I would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:31   richest man in the world over because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   it's all i want to do really but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:37   think i think the the revelation without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:41   question when i first started really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:45   participating on the internet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   you remember when wet when i was at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:50   height of my music career I was actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:53   discouraged by a lot of people from even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:56   going on the internet to comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   things or participate because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   initially the idea was you're a rockstar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04   keep that mr. mythology keep the mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   about yourself you don't wanna be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   accessible you don't want your fans to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   feel like you're just a regular person i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   mean i got this council from all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:16   of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   we wanted when I met you you had a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   strongly held opinion on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21   yeah right well because I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   thought about it a lot and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   listen I don't want to just be on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   just like a regular because you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   diminish and this goes straight back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30   again to this interview have my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   and protector the other day when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:33   were talking about your impression you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   said this numerous times your impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36   of being of arriving in rock and up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:39   through the late nineties was I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42   you can get a private jet with the so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   symbol on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   yeah yeah and then and you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   not the kind of people who respond you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:50   know you don't sit on your jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:50   responding to comments like Robert Plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53   never wrote a letter back to a kid they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   just slap in the face with his dick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   yeah you just say to send like so he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   send you a fish in the mail like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   know that is the jet not only had soso [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   written on the side that had a sunken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   living room in it and the carpeting John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09   Sheppard so at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:13   yeah you know at in 2007 or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   abandoned that and I went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   internet i remember when i first joined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:20   twitter I tiptoed in and I was doing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:24   was sending tweets out that were that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   were intentionally kind of like just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   different side of myself kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   funny little surreal little tweets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   I never ever referred to even music let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:37   alone my own music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   I was just talking about the mundane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   stuff around my house and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   enjoyed it i really enjoyed the response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   in a different world i mean you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   coming to 2008-2009 2007-2008 yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:52   it was a different it was a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   time but but I don't want to be all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   sentimental about it but then there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   a then there was a very definite time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   the sort of middle part where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   absolutely felt like being a participant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:08   in the internet was furthering my it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:13   advancing my personal brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:18   it was advancing my career in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   people knew me now differently the it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:25   wasn't reliant on that small handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:29   music magazines that were writing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   me I wasn't reliant on them to get my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   message out or I didn't have to i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   have to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   I wasn't creating mystery about myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   because I was in I I didn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   create it because I was intrinsically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   mysterious enough to be interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50   end and so people started asking me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   do things i started to get work i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   able to maintain a career even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   absence of releasing new records you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   know it for the internet felt like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   great and and I was having arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   with people in rock-and-roll who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:09   some of the mad that i was wasting time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12   on the internet some of them jealous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   that I was able can watch you not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   what they were expecting you to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   yeah and there were a lot of you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   lot of my fellow musicians were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   envious of the kind of other life i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:26   able to have on the internet because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   they would go on Twitter or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   they didn't know what to say and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   were grateful for the fact that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   message had been masked that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:41   they were grateful that they only had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   give five interviews a year they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:45   they felt like going on the internet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   like giving an interview every day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   that was their worst nightmare also is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   not only distraction but it was so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:55   looking for watering down their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   messaging well yeah and also it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   revealing about them something that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03   feared which was that their music was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   the most interesting thing about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   and the music was the message and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:11   took away that then they just that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   didn't have anything to say they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   have an interesting viewpoint right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   was the the music was there interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   viewpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23   and so there was a lot you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:24   was there were and I still meet people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   all the time that are like well you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   can do that because you seem to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   things to say but like I don't I I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   fail at it and that those are all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   Twitter accounts for bands that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:36   like your upcoming shows ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   yeah but at a certain point I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:43   inescapable to me that the that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:48   world has changed and i have changed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   now I do not feel any more like i am i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:55   certainly not unique among entertainers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   who have found a separate voice on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   internet that's very common and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:03   group think and the reciprocal echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:07   chamber e nature of all of the places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   that exists right now i'm not i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:13   feel not only do I not feel special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   there but i don't feel like i'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   anything out of it and maybe I need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:20   maybe I need to go live on a mountain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:23   top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:24   yeah i mean you know i would still talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   to you from mountaintop thank you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:30   would talk to you on my shortwave radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   but you know mountaintop maybe what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:37   you think back to the mountaintop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   because i don't want to know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   think when i wrote pretend to fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   prefer i was living in an apartment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   oh yes when you're in new york city new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   york city i was living in an apartment a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   hundred 18th Lexington the first long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52   winters record had not come out yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   i was convinced that I was like at 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57   years old was like completely over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   hill my whatever relevance i had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   going to be a kind of quaint relevance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:06   and i was living in this apartment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   neighborhood where nobody would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   recognized me as anything other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:15   that guy that vaguely looks like a cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   who comes in every day and gets to don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   neatly in Harlem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20   yeah i donated elections in Spanish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   Harlem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:23   so so a lot of the people you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:26   the people at the copy shop at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   corner where I got my coffee and donut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29   every morning didn't speak English at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   all and in that in that place of total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:34   anonymity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   I did not feel alone i did not feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:37   disconnected i went home every day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40   and wrote I wrote all the songs for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43   next album and i have not really had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   that feeling of love you know complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:51   sort of um the the freedom of no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:56   expectations i haven't had that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2876">TS</a>]

00:48:00   since then because it because the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   that you know the moment that next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:03   record came out then I heard them are my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   first record came out then I imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   that there were people who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   expectations of me and then there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   people there were people who did but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:16   gave that you know I give those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   way more weight than they deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   and ever since then I've been writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   you know I've been writing for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   audience I guess as opposed to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27   writing for me now I that's a really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:32   think that's pretty and participation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   because I I've always felt like I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   you because like when i was writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   writing something everyday and putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   it up online i developed one good one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:46   think very good habit which was I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   that was my job to put some words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   together and make it go somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   that's a good habit that's good habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53   but when i accidentally picked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   several less good habits and the less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   good habits have been much more durable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   for me unless good habits are after i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   posted that series of words regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   of how well edited and thought through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   it was I would immediately go and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   how well it was doing haha so and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   got google analytics on my site boy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   was a real oh you could see in you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:15   see every aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   yeah and I mean this i'm not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   beat myself up here but i think that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   probably not the first person in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   world who would spend 10 minutes writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   something and then x 3 minutes looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   at how well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   like now for you that's that we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   about we talked about this in our early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:32   interviews you know when your record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:33   comes out that first week you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   want to ride on the scout soundscan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   staff to see how things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   that's one week out of two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   years right you may still not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   this night i'm not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43   oversimplify it but the trouble is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   it does it doesn't take very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   it really doesn't take very much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   terms of hits on your own ego or feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   of ability self-esteem adjustability it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54   doesn't take very much to go pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55   quickly to like I can't wait to go see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   how this thing did way more than I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   going to be okay with it not nobody even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   knowing what i'm doing for a month and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   you can't even imagine that today nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:05   even knowing that you're working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   something that feels unheard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   that's what I'm trying to picture i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   sitting here trying to let myself make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   John deck or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   sounds like some sort of some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   crazed you know person out in the woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   yeah his know who sitting there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   this toy piano and is real quick yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:24   well what would happen to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   psychologically if no one gave me any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29   praise for a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   that wasn't standing right in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   me oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   oh that's a thought technology you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   and what would happen if you're up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   the next month i worked on something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   saw things with my own eyes and shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   them with I don't know one so not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   would you not create stuff with the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   that you congratulated on it like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   only would you not happen upon those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:54   things you go out of your way to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   even notice what somebody thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   you from what if I saw a duck carrying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:01   a ok like carrying a banana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:06   I would not take a picture of it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   photo i would not talk about it i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:12   not come up with a third funny thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   say about a duck carrying a banana and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   it's got good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   hey let me get a job they wanted and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   you know I would just see it then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:26   would go huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   just like I used to and it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   fucking deck with a minute that's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32   how many by a dollar and then i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:36   get on with my fucking light that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   funny to know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   I don't know and you know and the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   is right now if I saw a duck with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   banana out the window and I didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   picture of it I would be like oh fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   rightful my whole week is ruined that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   was like ah ha i have all right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:55   yeah it was me i had the phone pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   at it and then my fucking iphone shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3117">TS</a>]

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00:53:09   on the line we could not do it without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   like respect always supposed to live how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:17   do we supposed to live I am I went to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:23   went to my daughter is a halloween day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   at her school and I village officials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   crossing share this great captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   america costume all her friends looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   adorable and ice I took lots of videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   lots of videos lots of videos and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   didn't realize until I taken like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   or four these really good like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   minute videos that i was doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40   thing that I always do which is I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   realize that i hadn't turned the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   hadn't started shooting and then i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   get pics pictures the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50   no not even that no it's like I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   imagine me holding it up to the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   these adorable five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   your old dressed up in costumes so I hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   the button i'm shooting for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   minutes and then I hit the button to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   stop only realizing in that exact you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   talk about this is some fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   jean-paul Sartre shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   the second you hit that button it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07   up and starts recording and you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   that you weren't recording for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   minutes and that's such a feeling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:13   that and that's a pretty good hard one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   like i really wish i had more videos of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16   my daughter and her friends but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   like man there goes there goes a fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   talk with a banana and i'm sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   with my phone in my hand pointed at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   it was right there and I just didn't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   my thumb on the setup right I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   Sun behind me I know what I'm doing her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   a semi-professional I know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   doing PS god dammit so so this house I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   got something a project you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   about well you know i just i have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   that that the reason this intruded upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:45   me so so profoundly was that I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:51   I have always had for the last 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:54   let's say the last two now let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   last yeah let's say well let's let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   limited to 10 years for the last ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   years I have had five outstanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   projects all of which you know sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:10   the sometimes a project gets completed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   right in that time I made three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   full-length record albums and a an EP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   and in that time I have produced some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:21   number of podcast with you and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   written some newspaper articles but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:29   for that entire 10 years i have i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:33   had on the wall post it note that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   graduate from college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   what an asshole and I look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   posted i look at the edges are curled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   it's all yellow the ink is faded it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:46   fancy script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:47   yeah but it says graduate from college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   and I look at it and I go it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   very easy for me to graduate from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   college I have all the credits necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   i just need to fill out the forms hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:59   in you know one paper on Karl Marx that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   I copy out of Wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   and submit you know my-my ungainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:12   thesis to them which is written but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:16   which I which i withhold from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   because I don't feel that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   earned it and so I look at that and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   well I yeah I should absolutely you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26   what there's a new quarter coming up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   should absolutely go down there this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   quarter and I should figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   graduate from college and I have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   down to the University at the start of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34   the quarter eight times in the last 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:39   years and said to the said to my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:42   down there hey I really want to graduate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   from college this quarter and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   oh well you gotta hand in that paper for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   about marks and I go got-dammit and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52   home in it and I do nothing and and uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55   in that time the people at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:59   University have changed right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   the Maya my original advisor passed away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:07   than the chairman of the department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:09   handled me for a long time and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   retired and then the guys that had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   ph sees when i started now we're running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   the department and then now they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:19   retiring the next generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:23   professors are starting to retire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26   i'm still going down there with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   problem so there's that there's my you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:32   know my book uh my book about my walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   there is the the long winters album the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:39   4th 4th full-length long winters album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   which is completely recorded except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   vocals and has been for four years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   and then there are the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:50   various like other projects that are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:54   that i could sit and described to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   but that are fully formed in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   just have never liked no boots on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   ground right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   and now you know there's this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   concept of like why don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   television show someone somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   everybody at people i meet in an airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   and talk to 45 minutes or like why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   you have a television show ever given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   away for a while and I'm like fuck why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   don't have a television show anyway but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   on a post-it note C right next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   graduate from college so I so I I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23   the things i did not have a post-it note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:24   that said have a kid but I went ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27   and did that I got that done and I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:31   I'm thinking about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:32   so what is the what is keeping me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   finishing these things and honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   right now it's insecurity more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:39   anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:39   look I know it you know i look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   thing and I'm like oh god oh god I'd if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   I finish that and it's bad that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   right there with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:48   yeah and so why do I want where's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   insecurity comment coming from and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   just I feel like like the inn at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   very least the internet is not helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   you through the internet is not helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   me feel less insecure and I'm not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:03   know insecurity that's not my bugbear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   you know I'm a I'm a UH I was I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:10   important to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   I meant to be here for your legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:16   I'm a legacy my dad was important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   totally important he was very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   man i'm here to fulfill his dreams he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:24   let me know that multiple times when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   was a kid has as the years went by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29   disappointed he realizes that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30   working out like a while you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   see and that's that that's number five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:34   on my list be a u.s. senator which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:38   you know i have not abandoned that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   yeah being a u.s. senator is still it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   still very real to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44   yeah but I mean there's so many parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   all those things as big as the project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   is or as small as the project is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   promising as it is as overdue or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:53   know incomplete as it is there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   some part of every one of those that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   feel like the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   feel like the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   handle that helps you grab that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   you can feel just slightly out of reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   and the fact that it's just slightly out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06   of reach ends up being much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:09   damaging than the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   completely out of reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12   we're completely out of reach you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   with black which i'm not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:14   that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:15   I'm not become a jockey I'm too tall to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   be a jockey handle on that it can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   my pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   yeah I won't fit in the plane yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:24   yeah but these things are your right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   there is some of them seem tantalizingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   close but just far enough away i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:34   you gotta look at video games you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   saying that video games are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   but they are the there the talcum it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   not a panacea unless you end up writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   an iOS app called panacea but guide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   essential link in the robot you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   look at 3i think you should download it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   today and remove those off your page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   you know maybe yeah yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   maybe because posted notes are helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:54   but you feel like it will be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:55   indictment if you took down the post it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   well what am i getting up so this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   so let me let me just the college thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   for instance i feel like i have gotten a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:06   lot of satisfaction and never having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07   graduated from college I feel I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   that there are lots and lots of cocktail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   parties where everyone is comparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   their smart college that they that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   graduated from and then it comes to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   and i get i am the only one that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:22   only one in the room that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:23   graduated from college and that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:24   a that's a little reverse snobbery a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   little point of pride but do I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:30   go to my grave not having graduated from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   college or do I want to graduate from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   college just to just so that my father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:37   and my uncle and his uncle before him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   can all rest in their graves and say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:46   know like it's the it is anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:49   the middle class it's it's it's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:53   kind of like lay that you get when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   get off the airplane in Honolulu of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   middle and substantial Hawaii right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:02   you just should have it writer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   should and especially having done all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   the work that people ask questions you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   know they're so like move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:09   wonder why it's getting kind of odd he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   seems like he should be one of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   yeah and so if i am going to do it if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:17   if I'm not gonna take that post-it note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   down if I intend to do it then why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:23   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   like why would I would I let another 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   years go by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   that's a question I can't answer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   a question I can't even answer somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:33   asked me the other day how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:34   picture the narrative in your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:39   they were saying the days that the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:42   that they have they see go by like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   ticker-tape like us like a scroll on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:49   CNN that the the thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52   yeah they're thought timeline and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:55   I see like my oh my aware mind as a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3775">TS</a>]

01:03:02   of foggy more and there are phases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:08   coming out of the fog and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:11   are very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   the fog is extremely thick some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   faces are close enough that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:17   discern their features and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   speaking the loudest and then their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   faces that are a little further away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   they're less distinct and I can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25   their voices to and then there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   phases that are then i can just make out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   sort of the basics of their features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32   then their faces that are just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33   outline just a shadow and then in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   distance voices I can hear where I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:38   see the faces but I can still hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:41   know their voices are still audible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   though and the faces that approximate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   keep changing like the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   closest to me then back away into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   fog and other ones come step forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:53   it is a disc sort of like whack-a-mole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   on a foggy more of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3836">TS</a>]

01:04:02   different people saying different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   and what will ever like and I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:12   of those voices is one of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15   just lives in the more and every once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   awhile walk forward and goes college and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:23   then steps back and turned his face away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   you can't see who it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   yeah he might have other jobs you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   walk forward every once in awhile and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   say marriage retirement think he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:33   he might have like seven things he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   but he's like how am I ever gonna quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39   yeah hand him a diploma he's well he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   Welsh will step forward one day college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   and I go here and implemented but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47   like oh shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:49   thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:54   that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEMqDee0/3894">TS</a>]