Roderick on the Line

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00:00:25 ◼   ► hello hey John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► good is moon and man i think i might [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► have them accidentally just alert you to [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► one of my great life hacks as i call it [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► oh you you little bit of a life hack [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► yeah you could I figured out you could [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► figure it out yeah yeah okay all right [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► which is why wait until the person is on [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► the skype and ready to go and that's [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► when I go pee right because that gives [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► you the longest possible amount of time [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► over to podcast between peas [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► yes yes and I I just feel like I don't [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► want my biology such as it is to get in [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► the way of your helping people by [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► biology did you do [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► yeah well the thing about having to go [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► to pee all the time is that you don't [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► want to get you don't want to like start [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► i Meanwell women now I was about to say [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► you didn't want to do this but the more [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► I think about it I feel like maybe you [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► do want to start doing this which is you [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► need to start thinking about yourself as [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► an astronaut [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► oh you mean like training myself to for [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► opportunities [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► no i mean like like you know like like [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► sr-71 pilots right they they were on [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► long missions strapped into their chair [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► they had to devise a system by which [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► they could believe themselves in cockpit [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► ever you know what I'm saying so you're [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► sitting there in your podcasting cockpit [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► you need to get one of those pilots [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► friends pilot helper [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► oh yeah and just like rig it up to say [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► you know you're right you're right here [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► get into your pressure suit get rigged [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► up free podcast and then you know what [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► whatever happens you don't you're not [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► going to take your eyes off the prize [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► for sometimes when your podcast you're [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► going Mach 3 you're going Mach 3.5 [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► in podcast mock yeah and then it seems [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► to me that you know you learn from day [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► one in the training it's really it's all [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► about the mission [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► that's right right yeah well I'm halfway [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► I don't have a pressurized suit that i'm [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► going to share but I still livin on a [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► prayer [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► yeah halfway was pretty good thanks [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► and that's what that's almost a Merlin [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► Mann is before you want me know when [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► you're doing the glutens you couldn't [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► pull that fast now I couldn't I was I [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► would you know at one at one point 2 g's [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► I was out of the game but now i'm [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► pulling sixties sometimes sixties your [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► mock turtle I'm a market uh oh man [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► that's been troubling me iie here's the [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► thing you know human dignity [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► I've let so much stuff go just because I [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► know I'll never have to me but there's [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► something about the panic of realizing [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► that there's some very hot helpful [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► sharing going on and knowing that you [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► know I could just reach down and grab [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► something like I say a bottle [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► mm I don't like to do it but I've done [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► favorite bottle get rid but sure we'll [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► call gatorade yeah but something [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► something where you could you know what [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► about you [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► I'm telling you this is more there's [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► there this is systematized if you go [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► down to a pilot supply store and you and [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► you uh you-you-you strike up a [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► conversation with the guy behind the [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► counter now he's going to be initially [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► suspicious of you because he's going to [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► recognize you don't you're not a pilot [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► he's gonna be like what are you doing in [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► here he's gonna smell it on yeah but you [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► strike up a rapport with them and then [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► you say so you know you're what you're [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► what you're trying to get to is like [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► what he's got under the counter the [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► pilot friend the pilots help her pilot's [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► friend sure there's gonna be stuff like [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► sweatshirts and duffel bags right to say [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► NASA that any sucker tourists can come [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► in and buy exactly what a legitimate [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► like Neil Armstrong piddle pad you're [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► gonna have to know a guy you have to [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► know guy or net the more i think about [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► it you could probably just find it on [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► the internet [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► yeah i would go to a pilot supply store [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► you would probably just find it on the [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► internet is probably something like [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► supplements where you want to make sure [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► you're getting that the best version of [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► it you want to hear you want the bet you [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► want to add the neil armstrong [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► autographed form-fitted oh yes Cynthia [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► plaster caster who [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► pilots friend pilots and crew seems like [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► and I mean most of what I know about [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► space travel is from an episode of the [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► simpsons but and and mythology about the [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► space pen but you know I I know you [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► don't want stuff floating around [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► shouldn't be floating around I've seen [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► gravity is on the theater and I know you [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► don't want stuff floating around that [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► velocity is going to be problematic [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► the same is true in your podcasting [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► capsule yes and you don't want you don't [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► want little orbs of of like a pearl jam [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► em floatin around the room you think [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► through you know I understand you about [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► to get where you're going to ask if I [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► think masturbate yeah yeah i mean i have [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► to be something it seems to me that like [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► I remember like reading something about [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► i think was Sally Ride where they're [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► like well you know you're gonna have [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► your lady time up in space would need [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► like a hundred pads like how many like [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► they were so manifestly includable about [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► how lady bottom works my eyes and and [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► I'm going to do what did they end up [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► they just made a hole they made a suit [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► out of pads she said just give me a [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► couple of those don't worry about i'll [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► be fine [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► uh-huh but you know I I guess I you know [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► probably this is true anytime you're in [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► the armed services but especially if [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► you're an astronaut training you've got [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► to look past a lot of the things that [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► you'd rather not talk to people about i [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► think they need to know obviously if [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► you're going to get diseases they need [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► to know if you get claustrophobia and [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► can't stare at a wall 6 inches from your [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► face they need to know all of that and [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► you know but if you're going to the [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► Space Center the space but it's called [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► the ISS what's called a second second [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► space second space going to second space [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► whether your rescue a real American at [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► some point you're gonna you're gonna [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► need to spend a penny you know what I [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► mean [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► well or do I you know or will you just [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► hold it [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► well I think I think give me that I [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► think that might be one of the things [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► that they try to reduce they just hold [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► I mean think about it well wait a minute [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► right i mean if it buzz buzz aldrin can [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► take a holy communion on the moon and [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► nobody finds out about it [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► well they gave the given space communion [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► no he gave himself space communion [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► license you have you have to contact a [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► lot of people at the Vatican to to make [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► that official [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► anything but you didn't hear that story [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► because then that would mean if I [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► understand transubstantiation which I [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► probably don't [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► that means that Christ was literally on [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► the moon Christ was for his body his [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► body and his blood his body and his [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► blood around the moon don't numbers [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► sometimes you know what confuses me is [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► like you can't use your you can't like [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► put something in your mouth because your [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► hands have clubs on them right so that [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► so the the the wafer would have to be [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► kind of like in your it have to be in [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► your helmet in such a way that you could [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► lean down and stick your tongue out and [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► grab it when they put a tube I don't [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► think I don't think they did anything [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► about think but this was buzzed off the [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► reservation here he a rogue space [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► communion operation going he had he had [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► rogue space Communion and we and we [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► didn't find out about it too many years [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► later and now he expresses regret he [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► says he said hes regretful about having [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► taken space communion because he feels [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► like going to the moon was on behalf of [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► all humans and he at the time sort of [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► did like a you know made it made it just [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► for Christians he was there for [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► Christians and and that's how he thought [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► of at the time like I think he's being [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► awfully hard on himself [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► well you know I mean that I think that's [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► part of the astronaut training you've [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► got to be hard on yourself and smart and [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► his number one is you know Petey much I [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► more tears enough for other stuff you [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► gotta be hard on yourself again and I [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► think part of that is you don't pull one [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► off in space [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► yes because they're because just I mean [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► even if you had it all nailed down even [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► if you were like even if you had space [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► communion levels of secrecy [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► what happens if one little you know one [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► little something about mary glob gets [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► away [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► yeah and it's flying around the space [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► station that's some sensitive equipment [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► John you know you do not want that in [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► your Lander that's right that that you [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► know what that will that will arc its [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► introducing viscosity is going to some [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► awkward as expensive phone calls to make [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► sure you know and here comes your [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► Russian space friend he's coming through [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► the tube or she's coming through the [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► tube and you're like chasing your little [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► glob the other direction and then [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► oh no look out so you sayin well are you [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► saying we should keep Catholics out of [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► space because it seems to me it could be [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► could be kind of a mixed blessing on the [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► one hand they might try to sneak in some [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► this communion but on the other hand am [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► I feel super guilty about space [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► masturbation I think that it the that [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► that the ship has sailed the rocket has [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► launched on Catholics in space [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► I think it's too late to keep Catholics [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► on space I think they're there and now [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► we just have to make the best of this [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► sea of tranquility under the bridge now [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► what about Jews have been used on the [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► moon i think by this point in time there [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► have not been well maybe not on the moon [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► let's see let's see what the internet [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► says about Jews on stage she was on the [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► moon choose on the moon [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► Google doesn't come up with anything [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► wait Jews on the moon is that there's a [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► book called Jews on the moon she's on [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► the moon [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► oh and don't forget wikipedia provides a [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► list of Jewish astronauts there it is [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► I just on the moon is a series of books [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► so all the first Jew in space was a [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► cosmonaut Thank You Soviet Union Boris [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► slowly enough [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► Rowley enough for ya and then the first [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► American a Jewish person was a woman [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► Judith Resnik and she died in the [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► Challenger disaster so oh my god she [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► looks like your type John she's very [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► very pretty [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► Judith Resnik yeah I'm just saying now [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► that set that's a John profile right [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► there look at that she's a space lady [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► she's got that look that you like she's [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► really a very pretty because your hand [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► in that hair look at that I'm sorry that [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► she is gone you know from the world you [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► know my you know my chemistry teacher [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► was like a runner-up for that I told you [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► that right yeah yeah she's standing out [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► there standing out there is like a year [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► after i graduated it's a really big deal [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► she been in there that'll just million [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► times but he just imagine standing there [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► and watching that happen standing there [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► golf comprehensive high school and [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► watching that thing and then you got [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► talk to the media no good [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► hello you know there was a there was an [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► Israeli astronaut on the Columbia I knew [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► that we knew that already other than [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► that one Israeli astronaut and the first [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► cosmonaut the first Jewish cosmonaut [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► every other Jewish person to go into [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► space has been an American check your [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► privilege and there's good are quite a [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► few quite a few i would say not not as [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► many let's try Catholics on the moon [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► I'm glad we did this because I'm really [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► feel like I'm learning i decided that i [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► did not know this [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► I'd I had no idea do you think there [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► might be an optimal faith for someone [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► who's going to the moon [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► I think just like if you want to be [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► President of the United States your [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► chances are better if you are from [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► Virginia Ohio offer i think if you are [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► trying to go to space your chances are [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► better just just statistically if you [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► are a Christian I bet you more [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► Christians than other Protestant [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► Protestant Christian Protestant [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► Christian after I think that's probably [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► just those are the people who join the [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► airforce and those are the people who [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► join the airforce have a better chance [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► of going to the moon [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► ya hear that of course Catholics on the [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► moon the first thing we get is Eucharist [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► on the moon ? ? on the Catholic Answers [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► forum and that is probably talking about [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► buzz aldrin and that they're probably [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► debating it there probably are probably [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► getting mad there's that I mean there's [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► a lot of rules for how the communion [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► works i went to a at i went to a [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► Catholic wedding over the summer and I [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► think it's probably still going on [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► somebody to do a candid wedding I like a [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► full mass yeah it's it's it's like a guy [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► got as a marathon [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► yeah well there-there God is the old God [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► right they they have the old gods they [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► keep the old gods although not the guy i [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► have been not to a Orthodox Christian [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► wedding but I've been to an Orthodox [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► Christian mass and that stuff but you [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► really feel like you're in the presence [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► of the old gods there it gets a great [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► seats amazing suits their swing in that [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► that sensor the Indian testing it [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► doesn't matter it [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► incest around yeah they are switching [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► the full body experience I mean you [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► really you get it all [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► you get it all in there and there's a [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► lot at least the Catholic one there's a [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► lot of kneeling [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► and I i find it confusing i have been a [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► person of Christian faith not a Catholic [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► but for my poor six-year-old daughter [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► was super confusing about when you're [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► supposed to get on a little railing and [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► stuff you know you Neil sometimes you [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► stand sometimes you see it sometimes but [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► I get it I get I think I can totally [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► understand wanting to go to church and [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► have the the full-body Christian [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► experience I think totally makes sense [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► now listen to this [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► Kevin astronaut Kevin children shared [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► the body of Christ with Sid gutierrez [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► and Bob Cabana as we floated weightless [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► on the flight deck grateful for this [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► moment of comradeship and communion with [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► Christ that's nice so they're out there [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► uh they're out there having having the [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► Eucharist in space all the time now this [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► isn't like job [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► this isn't a thing that they have to [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► sneak anymore it's a thing that's just [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► going down it's not a shameful thing [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► they probably have a kit they probably [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► have a chaplain who is empowered to to [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► transubstantiated the kit [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► well now let's say I became an astronaut [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► and I wanted to take P otay as part of [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► my tradition of American heritage [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► yeah my native heritage I wanted to have [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► a p.o Traore like am I I'd like maybe an [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► eye on ayahuasca ceremony in space and I [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► made the argument that was but that was [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► part of my part of my faith now what [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► what is NASA going to say they're not [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► gonna let that they're going to see [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► here's your short sleeve shirt black tie [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► up and you get your smokey smoke in [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► front of this monitor your weaker [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► running you're running the space toilet [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► was actually you know i would say you [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► know I my kid I've seen slicing space [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► movies seems like there's a huge amount [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► of sacrifice goes into that stuff you [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► know [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► yes I'm window when do we stopped we [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► stopped in the end what like the [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► mid-seventies what going to the moon [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's that was all that was [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► all done all done by the Carter [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► Administration I think and it makes me [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► sad it makes me sad you know they're you [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► know you know about the the space [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► elevators right [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► there's just a solitary cell adage that [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► says that anyone must thing i'm not sure [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► Elon's actually got his worry about this [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► it this is a new technology [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► yeah the the idea being that you are you [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► here we go up in space you put a [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► counterweight up in space and they need [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► lower a carbon-fiber ribbon down you [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► know you lower it slowly down through [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► the atmosphere you got colonial window [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► gotta wait that goes up and down like a [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► later time a like a double-double how [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► long window [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► yeah yeah something like that you lower [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► the thing down and then you attach it to [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► the earth and then the counterweight is [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► in geosynchronous orbit so it just flies [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► straight above this spot on the ground [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► and the and the little ribbon is just [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► connected from the earth all the way up [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► into space and then you can start [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► sending stuff up the ribbon on little uh [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► in a little crawlers like a little [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► rascals thing he said something up in a [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► basket you send out a puppy yeah that's [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► right and then the more stuff you sent [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► up into space you add it to the you add [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► it to the counterweight and then the [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► bigger the counterweight is the more [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► stuff you can send up into space so I [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► think you attach a little teeny ribbon [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► at first and then you start sending [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► puppies up and you add the puppies to [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► the counterweight and then of course in [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► your hopefully the puppies are also [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► breeding up there [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► yeah not willing and then when you get a [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► big enough when you get it big enough [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► ribbon to start sending buckets a dirt [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► up there you just start sending dirt and [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► you build a planetoid up in space so [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► it's a little like The Great Escape [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► yeah yeah but a little bit it's just a [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► little bit of dirt in your pockets [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► that's right little at a time and I [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► think what ends up happening is you [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► start building a second earth and little [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► by little you take all the dirt from [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► Earth and send it up the ribbon to [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► Second Earth you remake earth maybe like [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► four miles away from instantly someday [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► boom where the counterweight with that [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► mm sighs that's right then you're the [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► counter [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► oh man that's good haha and then I [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► that's right the people left on earth [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► are all crowded around the counterweight [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► sending puppies back [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► so and then so the so the smart idea of [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► course is then you make another space [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► elevator from space to the moon and then [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► you can send stuff back and forth in [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► space between the two counterweights and [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► you can start mining the moon [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► oh wow that's right your mind the moon [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► for the moon rocks moved us and that's a [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► big project and but the thing is you're [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► going back and forth between the two [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► space elevators that doesn't take any [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► fuel right now all you have to do is you [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► get a super squirter and you know two [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► guys super squirt out the back of one [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► space shuttle and it that's all the [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► power you need to get to the other space [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► elevator it's a vacuum and then [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► everything else is done on elevator so [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► you get so no more [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► you don't need Rockets anymore point [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► that seems pretty possible you just you [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► just need the will to to start the [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► little tiny thread that's right and if [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► you can build the interstate highway [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► system why can't you build space [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► elevators from here from your mouth to [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► buzz aldrin is God's here much my god [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► and then and then of course then it's [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► easy to build a big space station not [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► one of these like crappy little space [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► stations where you have to get where [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► you're dodging is basically crazy not to [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► at that point [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► sure you build a space station like in [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► 2001 a Space Odyssey variable the space [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► station like in that neighborhood in any [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► night [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► yeah that hard to watch a movie with the [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► with the with the little hunting in your [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► book know that was hard to watch but [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► that other hard to watch one where he [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► was a space commando mm and Jodie Foster [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► was the president of have bad space [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► station many people as a contact first [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► contact star trek with you know I think [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► the movie was called like check your [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► privilege it really is like all the [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► people on earth were all like like a [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► Benetton ad and all the people that were [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► up in space were just these the worst of [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► the whites I like those birthday parties [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► on the Brady Bunch word is very [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► carefully a segmented with minority [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► groups [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► well that idea i think i think it was it [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► was a case it was basically if Charles [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► midday wrote a space movie it was it yet [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► was a thing where everybody that was [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► left on earth was poor [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► mmm [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► and have like what you're talking about [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► dad and sad and bad and they were gonna [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► be good will hunting check your [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► privilege [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► yes yes because this night don't know [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► it's hard to watch I think I wanted on [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► an airplane and I was like oh my god [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► this must have sounded so good in a [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► committee in a in a conference call but [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► there it is [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► yeah elysium ok so and there but there [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► was a very nice rendition of a orbiting [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► space station in Elysium that was like [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► you know it looked like a garden space [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► station right not like the 2001 space [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► station kinda look like a like a hamster [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► exercise wheel who still pretty nice [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► yeah but there were no like hanging [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► gardens there were no fountains by [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► adding these beautiful I feel like [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► making of I feel like the space station [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► that we want to make has got to have [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► some fountains it's got to have places [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► where you can masturbate in private [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► yes it's gonna be it's gotta be a nice [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► place that you want to go to an American [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► project it needs to encompass all of our [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► dreams and aspirations [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► that's right it's an American project [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► should be able to victory garden and [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► anime be an alcove where you could space [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► masturbate [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► yeah and i think i think it should be [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► built in the shape of a giant american [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► eagle like an eagle clutching some [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► arrows and one claw talent we just set [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► them up one area at a time on the space [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► elevator space elevator [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► I I mean and the problem is this is the [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► first inkling of a thing where I feel [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► like oh man I was born I've always felt [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► like I was born too late i should've [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► been born in in 1820 or whatever but now [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► this is the first thing where I felt [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► like all right the future is just a [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► little bit ahead here of me and I'm [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► gonna be an old man and they're going to [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► start to work on this garden space [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► station in the shape of a giant american [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► eagle [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► yeah it's gonna be called freedom [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► station homeland freedom station and I'm [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► gonna be too old to to dig it [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► no i mean like i wish i was i was born [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► right now maybe I'd be the right age to [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► be like space station Johnny over [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► and the thing is you think about how [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► many things happen we always see this [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► all the time now where somebody comes up [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► with something everybody thinks is a [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► squirrely idea or like you know a [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► dangerous idea and they stick with it [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► and they make it you know could be [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► something like the Wright brothers it [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► could be something like an iphone app [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► but you come up with something that [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► everybody thinks is implausible suddenly [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► it's plausible at some point it goes [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► from plausible to like this is kind of a [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► good idea to like wow [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► most of the heavy lifting for something [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► potentially cool is already done and [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► that's what all those jackals dive on it [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► they want to take it over so the space [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► elevator by the time they have a viable [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► ribbon going up into space [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► you're gonna have a lot of these jackals [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► jumping on that and want to take it over [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► and corporatize it you you put up an ad [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► in app purchases and then that changes [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► the whole the whole tenor of the project [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► but what I worry about you cannot but [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► you could be an ombudsman for the space [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► elevator button or the space free to [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► meet my I'm worried of course is that [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► once you get a space elevator going and [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► everybody sees oh wow ok that works then [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► there it's gonna it's not that hard to [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► put one up there right so they're gonna [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► be space elevators everywhere everywhere [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► you look and then the earth is gonna [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► start looking like a hairy ball because [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► its space elevators you know it's good [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► it's going to look like it has [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► dreadlocks space elevators are going to [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► be popping up everywhere everyone and [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► Harry's gonna throw a space elevator up [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► from their house [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► yeah and we like minecraft is gonna be a [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► thing we get on your phone and you send [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► more stuff to space try to build up the [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► counterweight right keep your eyes [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► supporting maybe you work with other [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► people and then you know this guy over [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► here's got a big counterweight that guy [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► over there it's got a little [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► counterweight what's going to happen you [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► think that you think the big [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► counterweight guys just going to sit [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► there while the little guy builds up his [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► counterweight know there's he's gonna [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► like preemptively attack the little guy [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► his next-door neighbor he's going to cut [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► the ribbon whatever skills counterweight [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► there's going to be a lot that's right [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► once that stuff's up in space it's where [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► it's got a lot of value because you're [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► gonna see and numerous instances of [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► weight checking right you're gonna [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► there's going to be weighed jacking [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► there's going to be a ribbon cutting [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► room it's gonna be a whole new dimension [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► of competition and and war and how are [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► you going to regulate that you can have [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► terrorists trying to cut people's [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► ribbons [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► for espionage ribbon cutters and and [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► wait jackers the thing is if somebody [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► cut the ribbon right then the weight [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► then then they're counterweight is what [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► like public domain first guy to get to [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► the to the unattached counterweight gets [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► to glom that counter weight onto his [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► company like a weight pirate eat some [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► space guys to go ahead and collect the [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► counterweights see now there's a job [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► that I could do wait pirate he'd be [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► created that right you have your own [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► like Lenny and fucking type thing and [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► just just jammin around jacket people's [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► weights and like selling the weights to [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► the highest bidder kilometer on wait [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► let's see that like pounding like bounty [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► hunters you have cable shows about the [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► guys here wait jacking or or ribbon [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► snatching and at that and I think [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► probably so anyway then the next thing [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► you want to do is start jacking [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► meteorites you wanna be startin [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► meteorite jacket because I think a lot [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► of those meteorites have water on them [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► right frozen water okay in the in [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► meteorites and comets and stuff yeah so [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► then once you graduate from like [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► counterweight jacking turn into a [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► meteorite am i right [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► you can read our babies get a rock [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► meteor and that's like a trip to the [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► bodega now you don't have to make you [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► can get the water from that and the [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► resources and stuff that you could use [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► for your yeah so you jump on a meteorite [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► i think a meteorite is something hit the [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► earth I think it's a meat-eor ok so you [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► jump on a meteor and you saddle up [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► saddle it up somehow you put some [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► rockets on that little rockets like like [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► like like super soakers for food and [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► then years then then then you'd [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► basically harness it and then you're [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► you're jammin around on this meteorite [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► given people you know selling water [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► water also being of course rocket fuel [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► and space fuel they put your super [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► soaker [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► well not only that but hydrogen oxygen [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► right you can burn the shit out of this [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► crap both oh yeah [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► ceiling fan this is way more exciting [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► than the library [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► now Jesus Christ John there's so many [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► cockamamie ideas that have been that [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► have been sprocket up over the years [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► because they were either interesting or [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► had some money in them [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► I can't believe the space program has [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► not been allowed to get super freaky [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► it's a real bummer [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► it's such a bummer and it'sit's again [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► it's another example of the fact that [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► the people that are running things are [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► the dummies dummies are running things [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► and now thank God we got Elon Musk who [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► was like you know what I'm not a dummy [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► i'm making me i'm making invisible cars [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► i'm gonna build space elevators like [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► Elon Musk who knows what that guy is [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► thinking right now he is basically he's [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► basically the emory Lola gasps of a lots [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► of space cars to get it says bang ya is [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► the bank is like bang you know what I [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► mean he's got like ideas he's nice he's [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► putting some seasoning on there banging [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► huh that is Elon Musk e is the he's the [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► he's the chef [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► he's the Louisiana chef of getting [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► things exciting happening [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► it's amazing how close it is to like a [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► supergenius supervillain though like you [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► really you want somebody who's thinking [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► two or three steps ahead you don't want [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► some guy who goes out well i'll make a [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► green car that doesn't need to be [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► recharged we've got that you know we [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► want something started way way way ahead [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► of this [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► thanks mr. behind the curve guess what [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► guess what do you want musk is doing [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► right now something way more far out and [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► freaky spine a lot of space ribbon right [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► now here's a question for you is Elon [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► Musk a pan man I isn't European well [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► he's got a weird own south african south [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► african south african-born [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► canadian-american business magnate it [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► says here [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► God so he was born in Pretoria is he a [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► pan man i don't think he's a pan man I [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► think Richard Branson is much closer to [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► a powers right he's pretty panties panty [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► he gets figured photos of himself on jet [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► skis with ladies but i'm looking at elon [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► musk and i'm picturing a chin beard [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► and it's not hard to picture you know [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► what I'm saying like like he might be [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► Abby might be a shaved pan man I think I [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► don't want to upset anybody John but i [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► gotta tell you i think you know German [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► accent still reads a certain way to [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► Americans and I think it'd be much more [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► evil sounding accent to me is the Dutch [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► accent em before the Dutch accent as as [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► transmogrified through the South African [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► oh yeah [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► yes when you hear those guys talk man [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► did you see that Dad that the movie with [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► the giant bugs for South Africa was [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► called this district nine is that what i [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► did i did see it and it was an example [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► of a movie that I i really liked the [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► writing i like the premise I like [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► everything about it except the design of [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► the space bugs was to me [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► biologically him implausible / [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► impossible that the products the [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► products that cross like this get the [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► skeletal structure of them seemed to [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► have been designed by a videogame comic [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► book artist and not by somebody that had [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► a grounding in biology and so it was [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► like I did not feel from the moment they [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► came on-screen that anything would [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► actually evolve in that shape it felt [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► like a thing that was designed by a [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► teenager to look cool [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► rather than designed by somebody who [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► primarily was thinking how would a thing [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► evolve if a prawn was going to become [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► bipedal how would how would that look [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► and it would I did I did not feel like [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► it would look like that and so the whole [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► movie which I otherwise enjoyed every [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► time those things came on-screen I was [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► like you know what [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► no no we're getting a little baby was [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► kid I Ron you know cute baby prawns not [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► that's not what I go to movies [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► yeah you know when when when the alien [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► came on the screen in the particular [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► alien particular alien in the film alien [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► like maybe not maybe not anymore [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► plausible but but at least believable [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► realistic right you look at it you're [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► like it yes I could see this is kind of [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► like a cockroach lizard dinosaur dragon [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► HR giger dragon [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► yeah but they're very other-worldly [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► other-worldly scary but also like the [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► things about it that were scary where [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► like where we're meaningfully scary it [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► was slimy and had it had teeth and then [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► more teeth like you know it it felt like [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► a thing that that that but that could [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► live [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► yeah but the prawns and district nine [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► felt like not a then felt like a cgi [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► fake monster [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► yeah and you know a lot of people talk [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► about this especially with regard to [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► things like alien and jaws but one thing [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► that makes those kinds of monsters so [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► successful is that they don't get that [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► much screen time you don't get that much [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► time to see them in the baking hot Sun [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► of johannesburg for 15 minutes at a time [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► there's something much more i mean so [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► much scarier in some ways that you so I [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► mean that's what I think there's that [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► one scene at the end where she's in her [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► underwear where you can kind of see what [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► the thing looks like a kind of looks [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► like a guy in a suit your talk about [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► alien alien yeah yeah yeah well I mean [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► you know that there there's nothing [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► about the jaws shark that looks like a [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► shark when you look at it right it looks [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► like a it looks like a donation bath toy [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► yeah and and yet that's a scary movie [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► yes very may have lots of technical [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► problems with the various sharks [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► yeah thing I've read the IMDb have you [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► frustrating it you know my problem with [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► the district nine guy is not his face [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► it's not his it wasn't the personality [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► of the guy [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► it wasn't the little lobster claws it [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► was the joint between the backbone and [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► my hip bones right that kind of like [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► exaggerated a you know where the pelvis [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► the pelvic bone into the inn [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► to the hips it just looked like it [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► looked like they had designed to thing [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► and then try to make it cooler by [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► cantilever ringing it's it's be hips and [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► hands it's like you know what that was [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► not necessary and it's that and I don't [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► like it believable I like the angle of [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► the guy getting the hand though I [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► thought that was pretty cool [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► yeah that was good yeah okay I see what [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► you're saying you know what I mean like [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► it just feels like a little bit like uh [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► huh yeah okay I get it I get it [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► robot robot a fetishist river [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► well you know justjust say you're ready [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► when your daughter is old enough and the [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► ants in a bug's life have four limbs the [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► ants have four limbs [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► yeah well that's like it's like a Jerry [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► Seinfeld and right it's like a cross [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► it's a it's a crossbred crossbreed what [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► half Jerry Seinfeld half and I you might [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► be confusing it with ants with a Z which [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► i think the Woody Allen version of bugs [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► life so there's but there's bugs lives [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► and there's and I think there's a you [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► know this happens very Seinfeld and I [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► think this definitely pretty definitely [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► not a bug's life that you got you got [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► your Kevin Spacey's you got your day [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► fully oh you know you guys got Elaine [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► from Seinfeld us in it [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► oh she's the the princess aunt bug's [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► life is pretty great [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► it's pretty great movie but like you [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► know even though I I like to think of [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► myself as not being that guy I I still [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► kinda wish they had you know six legs [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► OIC I thought you were going to say you [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► wish they had Jerry Seinfeld better i [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► wish she wasn't exactly anatomically [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► correct Elaine Benes okay yeah i I don't [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► I don't I cannot I can't watch movies [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► yeah because they're so disappointing [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► showing 1-1 with lots of buzz or just in [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► general just I mean the other day I went [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► to see a movie I want to see the movie [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► the guardians of the galaxy [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► boy they're not say bad words oh no oh [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► no you didn't like it I thought it was [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► oh my god i love you i want to watch it [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► again the second it was over it was [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► really really great [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► india thesaurus it was an example of a [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► movie that was great because it was it [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► was great at every level and the writing [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► was just good it was just good and the [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► casting was good and when I see a movie [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► like that where and that I know [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► everybody has the same experience when [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► you see a movie like that he go [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► why is it if you can do that then why is [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► it every fucking movie like that now [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► there are tens of thousands of people in [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► Hollywood making movies is it really [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► true that only like four of them are [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► smart or or what [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► like all you have to do is see a movie [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► like that and go okay well that that's [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► what we should be doing that's what all [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► movies should be like right so go for it [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► everybody that's your standard if your [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► script isn't as funny at least as [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► guardians of the galaxy then throw it in [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► the garbage can and don't make the movie [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► but it but but you get what you get one [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► guardians of the galaxy every five years [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► ten years you know i'm a big marvel fan [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► and I'm our family has seen all of the [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► mini Marvel movies many many times we've [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► seen that you know that the x-men movies [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► the spider-man movies not the spider my [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► brother lives in spider and once we've [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► seen all the x-men movies numerous times [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► using all the Iron Man movies i love the [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► the captain america movie but it's weird [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► how like the movies i think are most [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► successful of the Marvel movies are the [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► more slight ones like the first Thor [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► movie which some people really hate I i [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► thought was hilarious because they take [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► the mickey out of Thor you know he's not [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► even like just pretentious when he's [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► pretentious it's funny or like you know [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► obviously the first Iron Man movies [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► really great but like you know the [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► Avengers is still it's really really [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► good but it's really fucking long and [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► it's kind of three movies it's long and [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► it's it's very self serious [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► the whole middle part that could for a [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► long time we don't do this much now so [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► don't watch as much but we're watching a [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► lot we would watch basically up to the [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► point where they start arguments to each [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► other and skip the entire Middle like [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► our and then go straight to the Chitauri [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► attacking because that's what the you [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► know where the fun is [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► well except that I felt like that was [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► the first in a long series of movies [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► where hundreds of thousands if not [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► millions of people died in collateral [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► damage and current little attention was [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► paid to them [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► well you [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► Hawkeye and BlackWidow were on the [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► ground trying to help but you know it's [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► funny is if you some weak-ass characters [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► on the ground running around trying to [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► save me seat x two or three babies [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► anything on that bus window for you [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► while whole wall well-built whole [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► building full of people are probably a [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► lot of people's beef with the Superman [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► you know I couldn't even watch that [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► one's outlook that was so terrible [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► terrible movie get but the 1i want to [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► contrast guardians of the galaxy with is [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► that pretty terrible hitchhiker's guide [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► to the galaxy movie which had if you do [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► as I was watching guardians of the [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► galaxy I was like this is exactly the [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► tone can ! information is going into [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► this but you get that that those are [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► super peripheral characters historically [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► we're how familiar were you with the [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► characters in the general mojo of Thanos [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► and all that hopefully where you with [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► that part of the Marvel mythology [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► let me put it to you this way Marlon [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► what's nice for me about the Marvel [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► Comics universe is that they are all [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► peripheral characters to me this episode [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► of Roderick on the line is sponsored by [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► our very good friends at Squarespace [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► they are the only one platform that [TS]

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00:39:34 ◼   ► to squarespace for supporting Roderick [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► on the line we could not do without us [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► ok when I was really putting Wilberforce [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► when I went to see The Avengers I was [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► like where's the stretchy guy [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► what is the stretchy got command a [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► Silver Surfer why isn't the Silver [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► Surfer here like I like peripheral comic [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► characters are everybody that's not [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► spider-man and Batman to me like even [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► green lantern seems he's super fertile [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► or whatever I mean like I like totally [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► tell [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► and the thing is like Hodgman spends a [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► lot of time trying to school me on the [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► different engr darkside don't see and [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► are asked dark side versus danos don't [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► get him started [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► yeah and I'm like which one has which [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► one is the Julia set comics in it [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► because I don't give a fuck [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► so when I want to see the matter if it's [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► different when I want to see the [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► adventures I was like okay all these [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► people are in the same world all right [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► and there's a flying aircraft carrier [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► and then the guy from pulp fiction's in [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► this one and uh there's a lot of like [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► this guy's from the this guy's from [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► world war two and discuss from another [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► he's a God on another planet like wow [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► you guys will really watch anything so [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► when guardians of the galaxy came out [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► and I was reading all the all the stuff [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► in there like these are some really [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► peripheral characters i was like oh my [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► good if you know and when I saw the [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► raccoon I was like if why isn't this [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► raccoon the star of all media why is [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► every movie not about this raccoon and n [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► again n via and the dude the group the [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► not well not good no group was [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► interesting i like right there was never [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► a problem with the Duke the star-lord [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► star-lord like the casting of this guy [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► when he first appeared on screen I was [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► like oh here's a biz pretty boy actor [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► that guy from that thing he's 28 years [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► old he was here and then I realized he [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► was at the guy [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► zero dark thirty which is a movie that I [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► really haha wow you're right he played [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► the Navy ceilings are zero dark thirty i [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► think it is amazing the doofy Guy from [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► Parks and Rec well see i have never [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► watched that show except I've seen it on [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► an airplane if he plays a doofy Guy well [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► but in in zero dark thirty he played he [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► was the gig was the guy that gave me the [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► real insight into Navy SEAL culture that [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► i did not have before that that great [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► line that she says when they're like [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► they're there they're looking at the [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► Black Hawk helicopter at area 51 and [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► they're like what's the plan and she and [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► then the CIA lady says you know what I [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► didn't even want to use you guys with [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► your dip and yours velcro and your [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► students if straps and their the hell [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► kind of look at each other like she's [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► she's slamming the Navy SEALs as being a [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► bunch of redneck dip weeds and i was i [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► was so excited by that scene in the [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► movie I was like yeah the CIA gal is [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► Colin the Navy SEALs a bunch of dip [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► weeds little bit and then they really [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► played and this guy in particular played [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► that character of like he is he is the [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► he's America's like the tease the tip of [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► the spear but he's also a redneck dip [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► weed and that makes so much sense to me [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► that the tip of our spear is a are a [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► bunch of deep weeds [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► I really appreciate that they're all [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► they're all really smart at dealing with [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► the implementation but you wouldn't want [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► to ask him a lot of super high level [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► strategy stuff [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► yeah they're great at like working the [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► gears of the of the gizmos that they've [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► been given their basically exactly the [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► people that I imagined populating the [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► world of cobra in the GI Joe universe [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► back when i was fighting little wars [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► between GI joe cobra in my bathtub long [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► past the point where i should have [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► stopped playing with those toys [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► in the early eighties anyway long way of [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► saying that that that that particular [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► actor cast in that role he had all of [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► the kind of like swagger like don't like [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► kind of dumb swagger of Han Solo but he [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► was just he was just like.he was [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► charmingly dumb but then he also liked [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► was good good fighter and a good he's [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► funny actor I just thought that movie [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► was wonderful i love zero dark thirty [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► that one but also guardians of the [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► galaxy right right and and so I and I [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► felt like like part of the part of my [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► problem with our culture is this [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► insistence on all these fantasy [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► universes that feel kind of charmless [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► and even gormless like if this is really [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► a this is a world you want to live in [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► this is Right there--see way over [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► thought way over engineered and but I [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► mean with guardians of the galaxy I mean [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► it's you know I was really looking [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► forward to it i like the comic i like [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► this the characters are very fun to me [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► my daughter loves them but you know it [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► was such an improbable like when you [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► slog through something like iron man 3 [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► or whatever it's like you know it's good [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► i mean Robert Downey jr. has redefined [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► that character he's quick he's so you [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► don't you seen any of those with the [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► first ones like particularly really good [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► but you know really well done but like [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► that this improbable combination of [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► characters even comic fans may not be [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► familiar with with this totally [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► wackadoodle you know a far-out cosmic [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► story that's kind of hard to follow the [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► casting this script the script which had [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► if it had been a little bit more clever [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► would have been too clever too clever [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► that's right like I know what if ever [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► there was never a moment in the film [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► because I'm always watching ya up for [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► the moment we're in order to make [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► something happen in the script they [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► violate some core laws of gravity [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► looking people actually communicate [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► things like that right and and and and [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► at no point in the script did anybody [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► have to violate any universal laws at [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► all just seemed like sure of course like [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► there's some fantastical stuff happening [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► but I [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► am I believe in gravity still I believe [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► in I believe that light goes fast [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► yeah but i also there's some people like [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► I think about people like John Woo orbit [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► what's his headgear mal del Toro there's [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► a certain kinds of directors that make [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► these movies that are on the face of a [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► completely implausible but i buy into it [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► because they pull it off they pull off [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► what they intend to pull off which is [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► this crazy adventure and like in this [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► movie even through a young last maybe [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► the end of the second act gets a little [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► bit of a slog with the friendship and [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► friendship but you know what i buy it is [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► like Roger reviews where people are [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► walking on top of trees [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► yes you like karate movies where people [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► jump up in the air and are a capable of [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► flipping around six times I when they're [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► well done if you want something like [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► nothing just crushing tire with [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► something like it man or something like [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► yeah I do I like the specimens when [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► they're done well it's yeah it's a where [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► there's one called shiro you're seeing [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► hero even I think I recommended that to [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► that's one that I think really stands [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► out with you what's your feeling on this [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► wire when it comes wire-walking wire [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► training well you know the that when I [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► saw crouching tiger hidden dragon that [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► was the first time I ever saw somebody [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► like it and saw it as a plot point that [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► using the ancient chinese secrets you [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► could conceivably like walk out like a [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► sashay across all like in tangible [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► objects to to the top of a 40-foot like [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► thing of bamboo and just stand up on the [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► top of it on top of a leaf and I was [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► like whoa okay I if you know if I'm [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► gonna watch a movie with wizards in it [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► that isn't any greater of a suspension [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► of disbelief than this so i am well I'm [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► along for the ride like absolutely i [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► like that movie a lot and I was along [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► for the ride but what it did was it [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► opened the floodgates for every action [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► movie to have just normal people were no [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► supernatural skills involved like we [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► were because you're angry enough and [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► Karen if you can suddenly when a bar [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► fight with five guys [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► or you can jump 60 feet from one [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► building to the next or you can run up a [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► wall and flip over kick two guys in the [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► middle of the air fire your guns and you [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► know and land on land then land on a [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► piece of bamboo and all you are is bruce [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► willis and it's like me [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► no no that is that is that has that [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► crossing dragger could Crouch and [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► dragger hidden dragon introduced into in [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► the same way that the matrix did [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► introduced into the world of filmmaking [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► technology that was immediately adopted [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► by people with no imaginations right and [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► and it just turned that whole genre into [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► kid garbage kid garbage that were [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► feeding kids that are turning them into [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► garbage adults kid garbage what I [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► believe people believe things to believe [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► things are real they're not real fine i [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► think of a little since before I think [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► of a little bit like a Joni Mitchell [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► problem we're like you know man I i if [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► you can't get into jenny mitchell album [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► blue like I can't help you because i [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► think it's just about perfect but for [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► the love of Christ think about how many [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► dozens and dozens of people like or [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► buffy sainte-marie or whoever somebody [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► with that trilling like folk style [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► picked it up and you just please stop [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► doing that please [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► it's the in somebody's done done very [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► well you can learn from that but please [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► stop doing that please stop doing that [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► don't you think [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► well I have this problem a lot because [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► i'm i'm often asked to consult with [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► young songwriters right people say hey [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► I've got this young songwriter and i [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► would love you to listen to their demo [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► and talk to them and the number one my [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► number one thing that I that I have when [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► listening to demos is and and oftentimes [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► i will be i'll be very pleasantly [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► surprised 20 year old singer who has [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► great songs interesting lyrics really [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► good song structure the number one thing [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► I say is please stop singing like that [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► why are you singing like that like an [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► affected style and and every young [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► vocalist now is singing in an affected [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► style either really pressing [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► e or whole way back in the back of your [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► throat or low like with the trails or Oh [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► kind of you know it's 60 spoke or what [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► or I like none of them can just sing in [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► their voice because no contemporary [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► singer singing their voice over here is [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► the people that they're trying to affect [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► we're seeing in some version of their [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► voice you know I mean some somebody who [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► is doing that trying to just strict like [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► straight-up ape Jim Morrison you know [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► wouldn't count on you've got you've got [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► to have your own take on right but that [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► is no longer true like like music now [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► his is such a jigsaw puzzle of [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► influences and the end and I'm fine with [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► that in the songwriting and I'm fine [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► with that in the production of albums [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► but but I'm astonished that singer after [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► singer after singer i come to me with [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► these voices that are just like you are [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► just pretending to sing like somebody [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► and they will look at me very earnestly [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► and say like what that's my style what [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► are you talking about like that's the [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► key to my whole style and they really do [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► feel like that of all the things that [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► they were hoping that I would tell them [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► to change of all the things that they [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► are willing to change their vocal [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► affectation is the is what they think is [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► their style and you know and for myself [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► when I think back to my early days of [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► singing like sometimes i wish i had [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► affected my book voice a little bit more [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► because I here guys all the time my age [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► I'm saying with the little bit more [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► gravel in the board and I go yeah if I [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► had a little bit more of that maybe I [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► would be more [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► maybe i would be part of a tougher [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► tradition which is something I kind of I [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► can't think of anybody that you're [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► singing of reminds me of when people [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► compare the long winters other bands are [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► frequent frequently flummoxed because I [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► just don't I don't hear it either in the [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► songs or installer is that somebody who [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► maybe was a terrible Allmusic reviewer [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► million years ago was singing sound a [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► lot like REM and I can hear some REM in [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► like sum REM in instrumentation but i [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► don't hear it all in the songwriting for [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► the proponents and you know and michael [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► stipe is an example of a guy who's [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► singing like himself [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► I mean you know that these things he [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► sounds like him right [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► I don't know I think bono had a big [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► influence i think there's still a lot of [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► people today that are I mean it just [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► seems like there's so many people today [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► that really are selling they're still [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► doing a version of bono circa wore em I [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► mean that's like you know Coldplay or [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► like the killers or like somewhere [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► between like Bono and maybe a little bit [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► of morrissey there is a certain kind of [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► plaintiff style that is way above the [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► caliber of the music lyrics in terms of [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► its effect [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► yeah yeah well that's you know and [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► that's like what people hear is the [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► sound of stadium rock but the the one [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► that confuses me [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► i think is the confusing me the most is [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► the joni mitchell voice or I mean I [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► understand the christina aguilera voice [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► because that is a kind of that's a [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► version of stadium Rock I guess you know [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► like like that where it feels like the [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► song is a very interesting so let's put [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► in a lot more note with acrobatics and [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► sizzle yeah let's go from one note to [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► the next Mariah Carey really really [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► helped pioneer that [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► yeah she was the she was the shoes the [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► original war criminal [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► but uh but they but the the weird folk [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► like the joni mitchell voice the like [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► super in your head voice the way way [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► back in the back of your throat voice [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► their the up in your nasal cavity voices [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► these are the ones where it just feels [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► like why what are you afraid of [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► why don't you just sing like in your [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► voice and I mean time and time again I'm [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► just looked at what these blank faces [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► until I kind of am inhibited now to even [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► say something when I hear somebody [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► singing in fake voice it feels like one [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► of those things where I'm the guy from [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► old-fashioned town was like why are you [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► saying you're fake voice that they were [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► expecting you sit down pencil and paper [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► and talk about couplets and minor chords [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► yeah look at the song how the song could [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► be stronger better bridge that kind of [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► thing and I definitely do that type of [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► thing but the but the thing that any [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► thing that keeps me out of the of their [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► music more often than not it's just that [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► they're doing it in this style and I [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► mean and I guess if you were if you were [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► a young metal singer in 1980 and you [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► came out and when like that was the [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► style of the music you were making and [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► you perceived that to be necessary to [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► the music you were trying to do and so [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► it was in the style that you you thought [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► you belonged maybe not how you would [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► have some if you had come up in a [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► perfect vacuum but but these weird folk [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► voices and weird head voices that people [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► sing in now i don't i guess maybe it's [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► either that I don't perceive I don't see [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► a musical vein or a tradition that other [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► that that maybe they see maybe they see [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► themselves as descendants of of joni [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► mitchell in a way that I is like [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► incomprehensible to me i'm not sure but [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► this is this intrude more often than not [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► and and back in the indie rock days it [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► was just that everybody was whispering [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► all that all the boys singers were [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► singing quiet and faith i think yeah [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► like you think about the stuff that came [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► along and again I'm followed me to close [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► in awhile but in the two thousands of [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► thinking of like an [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► iron and wine kicking it off kind of you [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► know real whispery or even but you know [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► but then you also get stuff like you get [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► the mark I'd souls and you get the the [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► we know the red house painters and that [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► kind of stuff which was much more like [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► plaintiff but that kind of became a [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► thing when you were first putting out [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► records was the whole whispery bearded [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► guy [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► yeah it did it is kind of a thing right [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► yeah i was now I was not ever really I i [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► obviously I loved some of that music but [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► I did not feel akin to it because it [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► felt like why are you doing that was [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► pretty gimmicky yeah right and and it at [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► it it has i mean it's not as bad as the [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► Eddie Vetter voice but it just feels [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► like what it is this song would this [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► song if you just saying it straight but [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► it still be an emotional song right if [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► not then singing it you know like you [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► are whispering it through the through [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► the electrical outlets in your prison [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► cell here to the guy in the prison cell [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► next door like I'm I it's just it's just [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► it's a song about fucking nothing in the [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► first place so so whispering it to make [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► it seem intense is pretty lame and [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► they're probably very grateful for your [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► input that right the young people [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► everybody wants to hear what I think [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► thank you guys thank you for help [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► the number one thing that young people [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► want to hear is the advice of a guy [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► whose band they've never heard of who is [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► old and who does not phrase things very [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► nicely thats what young people want you [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► can always go to chris wallace anecdotes [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► nobody knows who he is anymore [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► oh snap like anymore uh the the young [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► people a you-know-what fast John it's [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► moving really fast and had this [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► conversation before they only listen to [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► electronic dance music now they do not [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► care about rock [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► yeah care about guitars Merlin yeah [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► the guitar is the clarinet of 2025 i was [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► watching a BBC documentary on let me do [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► its bit its kind of it [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► what about 1962 it's kind of about the [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► MIT leading up to you in the making of [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► and release of let me do then they were [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► reading back some of the projections [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► that Brian got from the labels I'm sure [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► you seen her but you know the Beatles [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► deals will never succeed in pop music [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► guitar music is on the way out you know [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► they're wrong that once that I'm you [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► know that but it now get a powerbook and [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► show up you take your shirt off and [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► dance around a little bit there was a [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► time when the violin was the number one [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► instrument [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► hmm and not anymore there was a time [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► when it was the clarinet and not anymore [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► and young people look at guitars and [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► they're like yeah I can make every [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► single sound of the guitar can make on [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► my ipad with the 25 programs i have and [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► i don't even like the sound guitar makes [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► so why would I do it [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► here's what I want to hear but the [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► bathroom dsr bills [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► sorry I'm working on it organized the [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► essence when you go back and [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► retroactively lead es other times as [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► fast as I don't even know what that [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► sounds like a more i know i've been [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► bewildered and bewildered want to put on [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► the radio sometimes sometimes I get it [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► sometimes i get it i enjoy it i learned [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► about music now mostly from trailers to [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► movies because we're going with my [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► daughter go see a movie every kid's [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► movie now in the trailer you hear some [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► kind of hit song at you [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► kind of hit song at you [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► often involving someone called pitbull [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► and and you your beer pitbull Katy Perry [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► Katy produced by bit by Pitbull she [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► seems like she's got some chops Katy [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► Perry she looks pretty heavily processed [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► em go [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► she's got some have you got any jobs mhm [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► mhm [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► you can watch the movie which one [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► hi it's got her into heavy cha heavy [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► chops yeah i'm ron jeremy [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► yeah you can be Perry is one of those [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► people that empirically takes a lot of [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► boxes for me if you look at somebody and [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► we're like does she have darker no [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► problem katy perry i gotta tell you i [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► got a lot of people have big eyes big [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► bazooms good dancer [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► yeah funny funny videos yeah but i do [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► not but but I just I feel like she's not [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► a she's not a hundred percent of a real [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► person or something I don't know [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► yeah yeah did you remember that show [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► everybody likes Raymond yes sure you [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► know wife in that show [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► yes exactly a the Thompson no no [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► it'sit's Scientologist lady right Yoshi [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► Scientology double-check sorry I should [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► do you know what I got all this out you [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► know what but that maybe it will maybe [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► what I'm talking about because she's an [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► example of a TV start but i would look [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► at I would watch that show and I would [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► look at her and I would say em I [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► attracted to you i want they can invite [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► the clicking of a king of queens maybe [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► oh I'm very attracted to her she's a [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► Scientologist for sure she's the one [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► that tried to find trying to find out [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► what's going on with David Miscavige is [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► a white friends right [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► that's and that bouncer out of [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► Scientology because they were some they [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► were so mad that she they were so mad at [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► her that it changed her religion because [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► Wow right but even they let you stay in [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► you gotta let go go live in a mobile [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► home and scrub toilets and stuff do you [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► write that book right [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► yeah you notice how often that happens [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► though that somebody will leave a [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► religion only after the people in that [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► religion get super mad at them [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► it's yes it's crazy that like you could [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► be such a true believer for so long in [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► something that is so we're you know it's [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► way beyond all your family going oh my [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► god what happened to you were like your [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► even when you become just a little bit [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► of an insider just what you would know [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► about that shit and still be hanging [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► onto it it must take it takes a lot to [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► get somebody to want to leave that alone [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► don't you think it's pretty clear it it [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► doesn't have the thing is the reason [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► that I'm interested in is I'm trying to [TS]