Roderick on the Line

Ep. 121: "Homeland Freedom Station"


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00:00:25   hello hey John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:30   good is moon and man i think i might [TS]

00:00:40   have them accidentally just alert you to [TS]

00:00:43   one of my great life hacks as i call it [TS]

00:00:46   oh you you little bit of a life hack [TS]

00:00:48   yeah you could I figured out you could [TS]

00:00:50   figure it out yeah yeah okay all right [TS]

00:00:52   which is why wait until the person is on [TS]

00:00:54   the skype and ready to go and that's [TS]

00:00:55   when I go pee right because that gives [TS]

00:00:58   you the longest possible amount of time [TS]

00:01:00   over to podcast between peas [TS]

00:01:05   yes yes and I I just feel like I don't [TS]

00:01:08   want my biology such as it is to get in [TS]

00:01:11   the way of your helping people by [TS]

00:01:13   biology did you do [TS]

00:01:16   yeah well the thing about having to go [TS]

00:01:20   to pee all the time is that you don't [TS]

00:01:24   want to get you don't want to like start [TS]

00:01:26   i Meanwell women now I was about to say [TS]

00:01:28   you didn't want to do this but the more [TS]

00:01:30   I think about it I feel like maybe you [TS]

00:01:32   do want to start doing this which is you [TS]

00:01:36   need to start thinking about yourself as [TS]

00:01:37   an astronaut [TS]

00:01:38   oh you mean like training myself to for [TS]

00:01:41   opportunities [TS]

00:01:42   no i mean like like you know like like [TS]

00:01:46   sr-71 pilots right they they were on [TS]

00:01:49   long missions strapped into their chair [TS]

00:01:53   they had to devise a system by which [TS]

00:01:58   they could believe themselves in cockpit [TS]

00:02:02   ever you know what I'm saying so you're [TS]

00:02:05   sitting there in your podcasting cockpit [TS]

00:02:07   you need to get one of those pilots [TS]

00:02:10   friends pilot helper [TS]

00:02:12   oh yeah and just like rig it up to say [TS]

00:02:16   you know you're right you're right here [TS]

00:02:17   get into your pressure suit get rigged [TS]

00:02:20   up free podcast and then you know what [TS]

00:02:23   whatever happens you don't you're not [TS]

00:02:25   going to take your eyes off the prize [TS]

00:02:27   for sometimes when your podcast you're [TS]

00:02:29   going Mach 3 you're going Mach 3.5 [TS]

00:02:33   in podcast mock yeah and then it seems [TS]

00:02:36   to me that you know you learn from day [TS]

00:02:38   one in the training it's really it's all [TS]

00:02:39   about the mission [TS]

00:02:40   that's right right yeah well I'm halfway [TS]

00:02:43   there [TS]

00:02:43   I don't have a pressurized suit that i'm [TS]

00:02:45   going to share but I still livin on a [TS]

00:02:48   prayer [TS]

00:02:48   yeah halfway was pretty good thanks [TS]

00:02:52   and that's what that's almost a Merlin [TS]

00:02:54   Mann is before you want me know when [TS]

00:02:55   you're doing the glutens you couldn't [TS]

00:02:57   pull that fast now I couldn't I was I [TS]

00:02:59   would you know at one at one point 2 g's [TS]

00:03:02   I was out of the game but now i'm [TS]

00:03:04   pulling sixties sometimes sixties your [TS]

00:03:07   mock turtle I'm a market uh oh man [TS]

00:03:11   that's been troubling me iie here's the [TS]

00:03:14   thing you know human dignity [TS]

00:03:15   I've let so much stuff go just because I [TS]

00:03:17   know I'll never have to me but there's [TS]

00:03:20   something about the panic of realizing [TS]

00:03:22   that there's some very hot helpful [TS]

00:03:23   sharing going on and knowing that you [TS]

00:03:26   know I could just reach down and grab [TS]

00:03:28   something like I say a bottle [TS]

00:03:31   mm I don't like to do it but I've done [TS]

00:03:33   favorite bottle get rid but sure we'll [TS]

00:03:34   call gatorade yeah but something [TS]

00:03:37   something where you could you know what [TS]

00:03:39   about you [TS]

00:03:40   I'm telling you this is more there's [TS]

00:03:41   there this is systematized if you go [TS]

00:03:43   down to a pilot supply store and you and [TS]

00:03:47   you uh you-you-you strike up a [TS]

00:03:49   conversation with the guy behind the [TS]

00:03:51   counter now he's going to be initially [TS]

00:03:52   suspicious of you because he's going to [TS]

00:03:53   recognize you don't you're not a pilot [TS]

00:03:55   he's gonna be like what are you doing in [TS]

00:03:57   here he's gonna smell it on yeah but you [TS]

00:04:00   strike up a rapport with them and then [TS]

00:04:02   you say so you know you're what you're [TS]

00:04:04   what you're trying to get to is like [TS]

00:04:05   what he's got under the counter the [TS]

00:04:06   pilot friend the pilots help her pilot's [TS]

00:04:08   friend sure there's gonna be stuff like [TS]

00:04:10   sweatshirts and duffel bags right to say [TS]

00:04:12   NASA that any sucker tourists can come [TS]

00:04:14   in and buy exactly what a legitimate [TS]

00:04:16   like Neil Armstrong piddle pad you're [TS]

00:04:18   gonna have to know a guy you have to [TS]

00:04:19   know guy or net the more i think about [TS]

00:04:21   it you could probably just find it on [TS]

00:04:24   the internet [TS]

00:04:24   yeah i would go to a pilot supply store [TS]

00:04:27   you would probably just find it on the [TS]

00:04:29   internet is probably something like [TS]

00:04:31   supplements where you want to make sure [TS]

00:04:32   you're getting that the best version of [TS]

00:04:34   it you want to hear you want the bet you [TS]

00:04:35   want to add the neil armstrong [TS]

00:04:37   autographed form-fitted oh yes Cynthia [TS]

00:04:43   plaster caster who [TS]

00:04:46   pilots friend pilots and crew seems like [TS]

00:04:49   and I mean most of what I know about [TS]

00:04:51   space travel is from an episode of the [TS]

00:04:54   simpsons but and and mythology about the [TS]

00:04:57   space pen but you know I I know you [TS]

00:05:00   don't want stuff floating around [TS]

00:05:01   shouldn't be floating around I've seen [TS]

00:05:02   gravity is on the theater and I know you [TS]

00:05:04   don't want stuff floating around that [TS]

00:05:05   velocity is going to be problematic [TS]

00:05:07   the same is true in your podcasting [TS]

00:05:09   capsule yes and you don't want you don't [TS]

00:05:11   want little orbs of of like a pearl jam [TS]

00:05:16   em floatin around the room you think [TS]

00:05:19   through you know I understand you about [TS]

00:05:22   to get where you're going to ask if I [TS]

00:05:23   think masturbate yeah yeah i mean i have [TS]

00:05:27   to be something it seems to me that like [TS]

00:05:28   I remember like reading something about [TS]

00:05:30   i think was Sally Ride where they're [TS]

00:05:32   like well you know you're gonna have [TS]

00:05:33   your lady time up in space would need [TS]

00:05:36   like a hundred pads like how many like [TS]

00:05:38   they were so manifestly includable about [TS]

00:05:40   how lady bottom works my eyes and and [TS]

00:05:44   I'm going to do what did they end up [TS]

00:05:45   they just made a hole they made a suit [TS]

00:05:47   out of pads she said just give me a [TS]

00:05:48   couple of those don't worry about i'll [TS]

00:05:49   be fine [TS]

00:05:50   uh-huh but you know I I guess I you know [TS]

00:05:54   probably this is true anytime you're in [TS]

00:05:55   the armed services but especially if [TS]

00:05:57   you're an astronaut training you've got [TS]

00:05:59   to look past a lot of the things that [TS]

00:06:01   you'd rather not talk to people about i [TS]

00:06:04   think they need to know obviously if [TS]

00:06:05   you're going to get diseases they need [TS]

00:06:07   to know if you get claustrophobia and [TS]

00:06:08   can't stare at a wall 6 inches from your [TS]

00:06:10   face they need to know all of that and [TS]

00:06:12   you know but if you're going to the [TS]

00:06:13   Space Center the space but it's called [TS]

00:06:15   the ISS what's called a second second [TS]

00:06:17   space second space going to second space [TS]

00:06:20   whether your rescue a real American at [TS]

00:06:23   some point you're gonna you're gonna [TS]

00:06:24   need to spend a penny you know what I [TS]

00:06:25   mean [TS]

00:06:26   well or do I you know or will you just [TS]

00:06:30   hold it [TS]

00:06:31   well I think I think give me that I [TS]

00:06:33   think that might be one of the things [TS]

00:06:34   that they try to reduce they just hold [TS]

00:06:35   it [TS]

00:06:36   I mean think about it well wait a minute [TS]

00:06:38   right i mean if it buzz buzz aldrin can [TS]

00:06:44   take a holy communion on the moon and [TS]

00:06:47   nobody finds out about it [TS]

00:06:49   well they gave the given space communion [TS]

00:06:52   no he gave himself space communion [TS]

00:06:54   license you have you have to contact a [TS]

00:06:57   lot of people at the Vatican to to make [TS]

00:06:58   that official [TS]

00:06:59   anything but you didn't hear that story [TS]

00:07:01   because then that would mean if I [TS]

00:07:02   understand transubstantiation which I [TS]

00:07:04   probably don't [TS]

00:07:05   that means that Christ was literally on [TS]

00:07:06   the moon Christ was for his body his [TS]

00:07:08   body and his blood his body and his [TS]

00:07:09   blood around the moon don't numbers [TS]

00:07:11   sometimes you know what confuses me is [TS]

00:07:13   like you can't use your you can't like [TS]

00:07:17   put something in your mouth because your [TS]

00:07:18   hands have clubs on them right so that [TS]

00:07:21   so the the the wafer would have to be [TS]

00:07:25   kind of like in your it have to be in [TS]

00:07:27   your helmet in such a way that you could [TS]

00:07:29   lean down and stick your tongue out and [TS]

00:07:31   grab it when they put a tube I don't [TS]

00:07:34   think I don't think they did anything [TS]

00:07:36   about think but this was buzzed off the [TS]

00:07:38   reservation here he a rogue space [TS]

00:07:39   communion operation going he had he had [TS]

00:07:41   rogue space Communion and we and we [TS]

00:07:43   didn't find out about it too many years [TS]

00:07:44   later and now he expresses regret he [TS]

00:07:47   says he said hes regretful about having [TS]

00:07:50   taken space communion because he feels [TS]

00:07:51   like going to the moon was on behalf of [TS]

00:07:53   all humans and he at the time sort of [TS]

00:07:57   did like a you know made it made it just [TS]

00:08:00   for Christians he was there for [TS]

00:08:02   Christians and and that's how he thought [TS]

00:08:04   of at the time like I think he's being [TS]

00:08:06   awfully hard on himself [TS]

00:08:07   well you know I mean that I think that's [TS]

00:08:09   part of the astronaut training you've [TS]

00:08:10   got to be hard on yourself and smart and [TS]

00:08:12   his number one is you know Petey much I [TS]

00:08:14   more tears enough for other stuff you [TS]

00:08:17   gotta be hard on yourself again and I [TS]

00:08:18   think part of that is you don't pull one [TS]

00:08:20   off in space [TS]

00:08:21   yes because they're because just I mean [TS]

00:08:24   even if you had it all nailed down even [TS]

00:08:27   if you were like even if you had space [TS]

00:08:30   communion levels of secrecy [TS]

00:08:32   what happens if one little you know one [TS]

00:08:36   little something about mary glob gets [TS]

00:08:38   away [TS]

00:08:39   yeah and it's flying around the space [TS]

00:08:41   station that's some sensitive equipment [TS]

00:08:43   John you know you do not want that in [TS]

00:08:44   your Lander that's right that that you [TS]

00:08:47   know what that will that will arc its [TS]

00:08:49   introducing viscosity is going to some [TS]

00:08:51   awkward as expensive phone calls to make [TS]

00:08:53   sure you know and here comes your [TS]

00:08:55   Russian space friend he's coming through [TS]

00:08:58   the tube or she's coming through the [TS]

00:08:59   tube and you're like chasing your little [TS]

00:09:01   glob the other direction and then [TS]

00:09:03   oh no look out so you sayin well are you [TS]

00:09:07   saying we should keep Catholics out of [TS]

00:09:08   space because it seems to me it could be [TS]

00:09:09   could be kind of a mixed blessing on the [TS]

00:09:11   one hand they might try to sneak in some [TS]

00:09:13   this communion but on the other hand am [TS]

00:09:14   I feel super guilty about space [TS]

00:09:16   masturbation I think that it the that [TS]

00:09:18   that the ship has sailed the rocket has [TS]

00:09:21   launched on Catholics in space [TS]

00:09:23   I think it's too late to keep Catholics [TS]

00:09:25   on space I think they're there and now [TS]

00:09:28   we just have to make the best of this [TS]

00:09:29   sea of tranquility under the bridge now [TS]

00:09:33   what about Jews have been used on the [TS]

00:09:35   moon i think by this point in time there [TS]

00:09:37   have not been well maybe not on the moon [TS]

00:09:40   let's see let's see what the internet [TS]

00:09:42   says about Jews on stage she was on the [TS]

00:09:46   moon choose on the moon [TS]

00:09:49   Google doesn't come up with anything [TS]

00:09:52   wait Jews on the moon is that there's a [TS]

00:09:54   book called Jews on the moon she's on [TS]

00:09:56   the moon [TS]

00:09:56   oh and don't forget wikipedia provides a [TS]

00:09:59   list of Jewish astronauts there it is [TS]

00:10:02   I just on the moon is a series of books [TS]

00:10:05   so all the first Jew in space was a [TS]

00:10:09   cosmonaut Thank You Soviet Union Boris [TS]

00:10:12   slowly enough [TS]

00:10:14   Rowley enough for ya and then the first [TS]

00:10:17   American a Jewish person was a woman [TS]

00:10:20   Judith Resnik and she died in the [TS]

00:10:22   Challenger disaster so oh my god she [TS]

00:10:25   looks like your type John she's very [TS]

00:10:28   very pretty [TS]

00:10:29   Judith Resnik yeah I'm just saying now [TS]

00:10:31   that set that's a John profile right [TS]

00:10:33   there look at that she's a space lady [TS]

00:10:35   she's got that look that you like she's [TS]

00:10:39   really a very pretty because your hand [TS]

00:10:41   in that hair look at that I'm sorry that [TS]

00:10:43   she is gone you know from the world you [TS]

00:10:46   know my you know my chemistry teacher [TS]

00:10:47   was like a runner-up for that I told you [TS]

00:10:48   that right yeah yeah she's standing out [TS]

00:10:51   there standing out there is like a year [TS]

00:10:53   after i graduated it's a really big deal [TS]

00:10:55   she been in there that'll just million [TS]

00:10:56   times but he just imagine standing there [TS]

00:10:58   and watching that happen standing there [TS]

00:11:00   golf comprehensive high school and [TS]

00:11:01   watching that thing and then you got [TS]

00:11:04   talk to the media no good [TS]

00:11:06   hello you know there was a there was an [TS]

00:11:08   Israeli astronaut on the Columbia I knew [TS]

00:11:11   that we knew that already other than [TS]

00:11:13   that one Israeli astronaut and the first [TS]

00:11:16   cosmonaut the first Jewish cosmonaut [TS]

00:11:18   every other Jewish person to go into [TS]

00:11:21   space has been an American check your [TS]

00:11:22   privilege and there's good are quite a [TS]

00:11:24   few quite a few i would say not not as [TS]

00:11:26   many let's try Catholics on the moon [TS]

00:11:28   I'm glad we did this because I'm really [TS]

00:11:30   feel like I'm learning i decided that i [TS]

00:11:31   did not know this [TS]

00:11:32   I'd I had no idea do you think there [TS]

00:11:35   might be an optimal faith for someone [TS]

00:11:37   who's going to the moon [TS]

00:11:38   I think just like if you want to be [TS]

00:11:41   President of the United States your [TS]

00:11:43   chances are better if you are from [TS]

00:11:45   Virginia Ohio offer i think if you are [TS]

00:11:49   trying to go to space your chances are [TS]

00:11:50   better just just statistically if you [TS]

00:11:53   are a Christian I bet you more [TS]

00:11:56   Christians than other Protestant [TS]

00:11:58   Protestant Christian Protestant [TS]

00:11:59   Christian after I think that's probably [TS]

00:12:02   just those are the people who join the [TS]

00:12:04   airforce and those are the people who [TS]

00:12:08   join the airforce have a better chance [TS]

00:12:09   of going to the moon [TS]

00:12:11   ya hear that of course Catholics on the [TS]

00:12:13   moon the first thing we get is Eucharist [TS]

00:12:15   on the moon ? ? on the Catholic Answers [TS]

00:12:18   forum and that is probably talking about [TS]

00:12:22   buzz aldrin and that they're probably [TS]

00:12:24   debating it there probably are probably [TS]

00:12:27   getting mad there's that I mean there's [TS]

00:12:29   a lot of rules for how the communion [TS]

00:12:31   works i went to a at i went to a [TS]

00:12:35   Catholic wedding over the summer and I [TS]

00:12:37   think it's probably still going on [TS]

00:12:38   somebody to do a candid wedding I like a [TS]

00:12:40   full mass yeah it's it's it's like a guy [TS]

00:12:44   got as a marathon [TS]

00:12:45   yeah well there-there God is the old God [TS]

00:12:48   right they they have the old gods they [TS]

00:12:54   keep the old gods although not the guy i [TS]

00:12:56   have been not to a Orthodox Christian [TS]

00:12:59   wedding but I've been to an Orthodox [TS]

00:13:01   Christian mass and that stuff but you [TS]

00:13:04   really feel like you're in the presence [TS]

00:13:06   of the old gods there it gets a great [TS]

00:13:07   seats amazing suits their swing in that [TS]

00:13:11   that sensor the Indian testing it [TS]

00:13:15   doesn't matter it [TS]

00:13:16   incest around yeah they are switching [TS]

00:13:18   the full body experience I mean you [TS]

00:13:20   really you get it all [TS]

00:13:21   you get it all in there and there's a [TS]

00:13:22   lot at least the Catholic one there's a [TS]

00:13:23   lot of kneeling [TS]

00:13:25   and I i find it confusing i have been a [TS]

00:13:28   person of Christian faith not a Catholic [TS]

00:13:30   but for my poor six-year-old daughter [TS]

00:13:32   was super confusing about when you're [TS]

00:13:34   supposed to get on a little railing and [TS]

00:13:35   stuff you know you Neil sometimes you [TS]

00:13:38   stand sometimes you see it sometimes but [TS]

00:13:41   I get it I get I think I can totally [TS]

00:13:42   understand wanting to go to church and [TS]

00:13:44   have the the full-body Christian [TS]

00:13:46   experience I think totally makes sense [TS]

00:13:47   now listen to this [TS]

00:13:50   Kevin astronaut Kevin children shared [TS]

00:13:55   the body of Christ with Sid gutierrez [TS]

00:13:58   and Bob Cabana as we floated weightless [TS]

00:14:02   on the flight deck grateful for this [TS]

00:14:04   moment of comradeship and communion with [TS]

00:14:06   Christ that's nice so they're out there [TS]

00:14:09   uh they're out there having having the [TS]

00:14:11   Eucharist in space all the time now this [TS]

00:14:14   isn't like job [TS]

00:14:15   this isn't a thing that they have to [TS]

00:14:16   sneak anymore it's a thing that's just [TS]

00:14:18   going down it's not a shameful thing [TS]

00:14:19   they probably have a kit they probably [TS]

00:14:21   have a chaplain who is empowered to to [TS]

00:14:24   transubstantiated the kit [TS]

00:14:26   well now let's say I became an astronaut [TS]

00:14:28   and I wanted to take P otay as part of [TS]

00:14:31   my tradition of American heritage [TS]

00:14:34   yeah my native heritage I wanted to have [TS]

00:14:36   a p.o Traore like am I I'd like maybe an [TS]

00:14:41   eye on ayahuasca ceremony in space and I [TS]

00:14:45   made the argument that was but that was [TS]

00:14:47   part of my part of my faith now what [TS]

00:14:50   what is NASA going to say they're not [TS]

00:14:51   gonna let that they're going to see [TS]

00:14:52   here's your short sleeve shirt black tie [TS]

00:14:54   up and you get your smokey smoke in [TS]

00:14:57   front of this monitor your weaker [TS]

00:14:59   running you're running the space toilet [TS]

00:15:01   was actually you know i would say you [TS]

00:15:06   know I my kid I've seen slicing space [TS]

00:15:09   movies seems like there's a huge amount [TS]

00:15:10   of sacrifice goes into that stuff you [TS]

00:15:14   know [TS]

00:15:14   yes I'm window when do we stopped we [TS]

00:15:16   stopped in the end what like the [TS]

00:15:18   mid-seventies what going to the moon [TS]

00:15:20   yeah yeah that's that was all that was [TS]

00:15:22   all done all done by the Carter [TS]

00:15:24   Administration I think and it makes me [TS]

00:15:26   sad it makes me sad you know they're you [TS]

00:15:28   know you know about the the space [TS]

00:15:31   elevators right [TS]

00:15:33   there's just a solitary cell adage that [TS]

00:15:35   says that anyone must thing i'm not sure [TS]

00:15:38   Elon's actually got his worry about this [TS]

00:15:40   it this is a new technology [TS]

00:15:42   yeah the the idea being that you are you [TS]

00:15:45   here we go up in space you put a [TS]

00:15:47   counterweight up in space and they need [TS]

00:15:49   lower a carbon-fiber ribbon down you [TS]

00:15:55   know you lower it slowly down through [TS]

00:15:57   the atmosphere you got colonial window [TS]

00:15:59   gotta wait that goes up and down like a [TS]

00:16:02   later time a like a double-double how [TS]

00:16:05   long window [TS]

00:16:06   yeah yeah something like that you lower [TS]

00:16:08   the thing down and then you attach it to [TS]

00:16:10   the earth and then the counterweight is [TS]

00:16:12   in geosynchronous orbit so it just flies [TS]

00:16:15   straight above this spot on the ground [TS]

00:16:17   and the and the little ribbon is just [TS]

00:16:19   connected from the earth all the way up [TS]

00:16:21   into space and then you can start [TS]

00:16:23   sending stuff up the ribbon on little uh [TS]

00:16:26   in a little crawlers like a little [TS]

00:16:29   rascals thing he said something up in a [TS]

00:16:30   basket you send out a puppy yeah that's [TS]

00:16:32   right and then the more stuff you sent [TS]

00:16:34   up into space you add it to the you add [TS]

00:16:38   it to the counterweight and then the [TS]

00:16:41   bigger the counterweight is the more [TS]

00:16:43   stuff you can send up into space so I [TS]

00:16:45   think you attach a little teeny ribbon [TS]

00:16:47   at first and then you start sending [TS]

00:16:49   puppies up and you add the puppies to [TS]

00:16:52   the counterweight and then of course in [TS]

00:16:55   your hopefully the puppies are also [TS]

00:16:56   breeding up there [TS]

00:16:58   yeah not willing and then when you get a [TS]

00:17:00   big enough when you get it big enough [TS]

00:17:02   ribbon to start sending buckets a dirt [TS]

00:17:04   up there you just start sending dirt and [TS]

00:17:05   you build a planetoid up in space so [TS]

00:17:09   it's a little like The Great Escape [TS]

00:17:11   yeah yeah but a little bit it's just a [TS]

00:17:14   little bit of dirt in your pockets [TS]

00:17:16   that's right little at a time and I [TS]

00:17:17   think what ends up happening is you [TS]

00:17:19   start building a second earth and little [TS]

00:17:22   by little you take all the dirt from [TS]

00:17:23   Earth and send it up the ribbon to [TS]

00:17:25   Second Earth you remake earth maybe like [TS]

00:17:30   four miles away from instantly someday [TS]

00:17:32   boom where the counterweight with that [TS]

00:17:34   mm sighs that's right then you're the [TS]

00:17:36   counter [TS]

00:17:37   oh man that's good haha and then I [TS]

00:17:39   that's right the people left on earth [TS]

00:17:41   are all crowded around the counterweight [TS]

00:17:43   sending puppies back [TS]

00:17:44   so and then so the so the smart idea of [TS]

00:17:48   course is then you make another space [TS]

00:17:50   elevator from space to the moon and then [TS]

00:17:54   you can send stuff back and forth in [TS]

00:17:58   space between the two counterweights and [TS]

00:18:00   you can start mining the moon [TS]

00:18:02   oh wow that's right your mind the moon [TS]

00:18:04   for the moon rocks moved us and that's a [TS]

00:18:07   big project and but the thing is you're [TS]

00:18:10   going back and forth between the two [TS]

00:18:11   space elevators that doesn't take any [TS]

00:18:13   fuel right now all you have to do is you [TS]

00:18:14   get a super squirter and you know two [TS]

00:18:17   guys super squirt out the back of one [TS]

00:18:19   space shuttle and it that's all the [TS]

00:18:21   power you need to get to the other space [TS]

00:18:22   elevator it's a vacuum and then [TS]

00:18:24   everything else is done on elevator so [TS]

00:18:26   you get so no more [TS]

00:18:27   you don't need Rockets anymore point [TS]

00:18:29   that seems pretty possible you just you [TS]

00:18:31   just need the will to to start the [TS]

00:18:34   little tiny thread that's right and if [TS]

00:18:36   you can build the interstate highway [TS]

00:18:37   system why can't you build space [TS]

00:18:39   elevators from here from your mouth to [TS]

00:18:40   buzz aldrin is God's here much my god [TS]

00:18:43   and then and then of course then it's [TS]

00:18:45   easy to build a big space station not [TS]

00:18:47   one of these like crappy little space [TS]

00:18:49   stations where you have to get where [TS]

00:18:50   you're dodging is basically crazy not to [TS]

00:18:52   at that point [TS]

00:18:52   sure you build a space station like in [TS]

00:18:54   2001 a Space Odyssey variable the space [TS]

00:18:56   station like in that neighborhood in any [TS]

00:18:58   night [TS]

00:18:59   yeah that hard to watch a movie with the [TS]

00:19:01   with the with the little hunting in your [TS]

00:19:05   book know that was hard to watch but [TS]

00:19:07   that other hard to watch one where he [TS]

00:19:08   was a space commando mm and Jodie Foster [TS]

00:19:13   was the president of have bad space [TS]

00:19:17   station many people as a contact first [TS]

00:19:19   contact star trek with you know I think [TS]

00:19:21   the movie was called like check your [TS]

00:19:22   privilege it really is like all the [TS]

00:19:25   people on earth were all like like a [TS]

00:19:28   Benetton ad and all the people that were [TS]

00:19:30   up in space were just these the worst of [TS]

00:19:32   the whites I like those birthday parties [TS]

00:19:35   on the Brady Bunch word is very [TS]

00:19:37   carefully a segmented with minority [TS]

00:19:39   groups [TS]

00:19:40   well that idea i think i think it was it [TS]

00:19:43   was a case it was basically if Charles [TS]

00:19:45   midday wrote a space movie it was it yet [TS]

00:19:50   was a thing where everybody that was [TS]

00:19:51   left on earth was poor [TS]

00:19:53   mmm [TS]

00:19:53   and have like what you're talking about [TS]

00:19:56   dad and sad and bad and they were gonna [TS]

00:19:58   be good will hunting check your [TS]

00:19:59   privilege [TS]

00:20:00   yes yes because this night don't know [TS]

00:20:03   it's hard to watch I think I wanted on [TS]

00:20:05   an airplane and I was like oh my god [TS]

00:20:07   this must have sounded so good in a [TS]

00:20:11   committee in a in a conference call but [TS]

00:20:14   there it is [TS]

00:20:15   yeah elysium ok so and there but there [TS]

00:20:18   was a very nice rendition of a orbiting [TS]

00:20:21   space station in Elysium that was like [TS]

00:20:24   you know it looked like a garden space [TS]

00:20:26   station right not like the 2001 space [TS]

00:20:29   station kinda look like a like a hamster [TS]

00:20:31   exercise wheel who still pretty nice [TS]

00:20:34   yeah but there were no like hanging [TS]

00:20:37   gardens there were no fountains by [TS]

00:20:39   adding these beautiful I feel like [TS]

00:20:41   making of I feel like the space station [TS]

00:20:42   that we want to make has got to have [TS]

00:20:44   some fountains it's got to have places [TS]

00:20:46   where you can masturbate in private [TS]

00:20:48   yes it's gonna be it's gotta be a nice [TS]

00:20:49   place that you want to go to an American [TS]

00:20:51   project it needs to encompass all of our [TS]

00:20:53   dreams and aspirations [TS]

00:20:55   that's right it's an American project [TS]

00:20:57   should be able to victory garden and [TS]

00:20:59   anime be an alcove where you could space [TS]

00:21:01   masturbate [TS]

00:21:02   yeah and i think i think it should be [TS]

00:21:03   built in the shape of a giant american [TS]

00:21:05   eagle like an eagle clutching some [TS]

00:21:08   arrows and one claw talent we just set [TS]

00:21:10   them up one area at a time on the space [TS]

00:21:12   elevator space elevator [TS]

00:21:13   I I mean and the problem is this is the [TS]

00:21:15   first inkling of a thing where I feel [TS]

00:21:18   like oh man I was born I've always felt [TS]

00:21:23   like I was born too late i should've [TS]

00:21:24   been born in in 1820 or whatever but now [TS]

00:21:29   this is the first thing where I felt [TS]

00:21:31   like all right the future is just a [TS]

00:21:34   little bit ahead here of me and I'm [TS]

00:21:37   gonna be an old man and they're going to [TS]

00:21:40   start to work on this garden space [TS]

00:21:42   station in the shape of a giant american [TS]

00:21:44   eagle [TS]

00:21:45   yeah it's gonna be called freedom [TS]

00:21:46   station homeland freedom station and I'm [TS]

00:21:50   gonna be too old to to dig it [TS]

00:21:53   no i mean like i wish i was i was born [TS]

00:21:56   right now maybe I'd be the right age to [TS]

00:21:58   be like space station Johnny over [TS]

00:22:02   and the thing is you think about how [TS]

00:22:04   many things happen we always see this [TS]

00:22:05   all the time now where somebody comes up [TS]

00:22:07   with something everybody thinks is a [TS]

00:22:08   squirrely idea or like you know a [TS]

00:22:10   dangerous idea and they stick with it [TS]

00:22:12   and they make it you know could be [TS]

00:22:14   something like the Wright brothers it [TS]

00:22:16   could be something like an iphone app [TS]

00:22:17   but you come up with something that [TS]

00:22:18   everybody thinks is implausible suddenly [TS]

00:22:20   it's plausible at some point it goes [TS]

00:22:22   from plausible to like this is kind of a [TS]

00:22:23   good idea to like wow [TS]

00:22:25   most of the heavy lifting for something [TS]

00:22:27   potentially cool is already done and [TS]

00:22:29   that's what all those jackals dive on it [TS]

00:22:31   they want to take it over so the space [TS]

00:22:32   elevator by the time they have a viable [TS]

00:22:34   ribbon going up into space [TS]

00:22:36   you're gonna have a lot of these jackals [TS]

00:22:37   jumping on that and want to take it over [TS]

00:22:38   and corporatize it you you put up an ad [TS]

00:22:41   in app purchases and then that changes [TS]

00:22:43   the whole the whole tenor of the project [TS]

00:22:45   but what I worry about you cannot but [TS]

00:22:48   you could be an ombudsman for the space [TS]

00:22:49   elevator button or the space free to [TS]

00:22:51   meet my I'm worried of course is that [TS]

00:22:54   once you get a space elevator going and [TS]

00:22:57   everybody sees oh wow ok that works then [TS]

00:23:00   there it's gonna it's not that hard to [TS]

00:23:02   put one up there right so they're gonna [TS]

00:23:04   be space elevators everywhere everywhere [TS]

00:23:06   you look and then the earth is gonna [TS]

00:23:09   start looking like a hairy ball because [TS]

00:23:12   its space elevators you know it's good [TS]

00:23:14   it's going to look like it has [TS]

00:23:15   dreadlocks space elevators are going to [TS]

00:23:18   be popping up everywhere everyone and [TS]

00:23:20   Harry's gonna throw a space elevator up [TS]

00:23:21   from their house [TS]

00:23:22   yeah and we like minecraft is gonna be a [TS]

00:23:25   thing we get on your phone and you send [TS]

00:23:26   more stuff to space try to build up the [TS]

00:23:28   counterweight right keep your eyes [TS]

00:23:30   supporting maybe you work with other [TS]

00:23:31   people and then you know this guy over [TS]

00:23:34   here's got a big counterweight that guy [TS]

00:23:36   over there it's got a little [TS]

00:23:37   counterweight what's going to happen you [TS]

00:23:39   think that you think the big [TS]

00:23:40   counterweight guys just going to sit [TS]

00:23:41   there while the little guy builds up his [TS]

00:23:42   counterweight know there's he's gonna [TS]

00:23:44   like preemptively attack the little guy [TS]

00:23:46   his next-door neighbor he's going to cut [TS]

00:23:49   the ribbon whatever skills counterweight [TS]

00:23:51   there's going to be a lot that's right [TS]

00:23:53   once that stuff's up in space it's where [TS]

00:23:55   it's got a lot of value because you're [TS]

00:23:56   gonna see and numerous instances of [TS]

00:23:58   weight checking right you're gonna [TS]

00:24:00   there's going to be weighed jacking [TS]

00:24:01   there's going to be a ribbon cutting [TS]

00:24:03   room it's gonna be a whole new dimension [TS]

00:24:05   of competition and and war and how are [TS]

00:24:09   you going to regulate that you can have [TS]

00:24:11   terrorists trying to cut people's [TS]

00:24:12   ribbons [TS]

00:24:13   for espionage ribbon cutters and and [TS]

00:24:15   wait jackers the thing is if somebody [TS]

00:24:18   cut the ribbon right then the weight [TS]

00:24:21   then then they're counterweight is what [TS]

00:24:24   like public domain first guy to get to [TS]

00:24:26   the to the unattached counterweight gets [TS]

00:24:29   to glom that counter weight onto his [TS]

00:24:31   company like a weight pirate eat some [TS]

00:24:34   space guys to go ahead and collect the [TS]

00:24:35   counterweights see now there's a job [TS]

00:24:37   that I could do wait pirate he'd be [TS]

00:24:39   created that right you have your own [TS]

00:24:41   like Lenny and fucking type thing and [TS]

00:24:43   just just jammin around jacket people's [TS]

00:24:46   weights and like selling the weights to [TS]

00:24:49   the highest bidder kilometer on wait [TS]

00:24:50   let's see that like pounding like bounty [TS]

00:24:52   hunters you have cable shows about the [TS]

00:24:54   guys here wait jacking or or ribbon [TS]

00:24:57   snatching and at that and I think [TS]

00:24:58   probably so anyway then the next thing [TS]

00:25:02   you want to do is start jacking [TS]

00:25:04   meteorites you wanna be startin [TS]

00:25:08   meteorite jacket because I think a lot [TS]

00:25:10   of those meteorites have water on them [TS]

00:25:12   right frozen water okay in the in [TS]

00:25:17   meteorites and comets and stuff yeah so [TS]

00:25:19   then once you graduate from like [TS]

00:25:21   counterweight jacking turn into a [TS]

00:25:24   meteorite am i right [TS]

00:25:26   you can read our babies get a rock [TS]

00:25:28   meteor and that's like a trip to the [TS]

00:25:30   bodega now you don't have to make you [TS]

00:25:31   can get the water from that and the [TS]

00:25:33   resources and stuff that you could use [TS]

00:25:34   for your yeah so you jump on a meteorite [TS]

00:25:38   i think a meteorite is something hit the [TS]

00:25:41   earth I think it's a meat-eor ok so you [TS]

00:25:43   jump on a meteor and you saddle up [TS]

00:25:45   saddle it up somehow you put some [TS]

00:25:47   rockets on that little rockets like like [TS]

00:25:50   like like super soakers for food and [TS]

00:25:53   then years then then then you'd [TS]

00:25:56   basically harness it and then you're [TS]

00:25:58   you're jammin around on this meteorite [TS]

00:26:00   given people you know selling water [TS]

00:26:03   water also being of course rocket fuel [TS]

00:26:06   and space fuel they put your super [TS]

00:26:08   soaker [TS]

00:26:09   well not only that but hydrogen oxygen [TS]

00:26:11   right you can burn the shit out of this [TS]

00:26:13   crap both oh yeah [TS]

00:26:16   ceiling fan this is way more exciting [TS]

00:26:17   than the library [TS]

00:26:18   now Jesus Christ John there's so many [TS]

00:26:20   cockamamie ideas that have been that [TS]

00:26:24   have been sprocket up over the years [TS]

00:26:26   because they were either interesting or [TS]

00:26:28   had some money in them [TS]

00:26:29   I can't believe the space program has [TS]

00:26:31   not been allowed to get super freaky [TS]

00:26:32   it's a real bummer [TS]

00:26:33   it's such a bummer and it'sit's again [TS]

00:26:36   it's another example of the fact that [TS]

00:26:37   the people that are running things are [TS]

00:26:38   the dummies dummies are running things [TS]

00:26:41   and now thank God we got Elon Musk who [TS]

00:26:46   was like you know what I'm not a dummy [TS]

00:26:48   i'm making me i'm making invisible cars [TS]

00:26:51   i'm gonna build space elevators like [TS]

00:26:54   Elon Musk who knows what that guy is [TS]

00:26:55   thinking right now he is basically he's [TS]

00:26:59   basically the emory Lola gasps of a lots [TS]

00:27:05   of space cars to get it says bang ya is [TS]

00:27:09   the bank is like bang you know what I [TS]

00:27:12   mean he's got like ideas he's nice he's [TS]

00:27:14   putting some seasoning on there banging [TS]

00:27:17   huh that is Elon Musk e is the he's the [TS]

00:27:20   he's the chef [TS]

00:27:22   he's the Louisiana chef of getting [TS]

00:27:24   things exciting happening [TS]

00:27:27   it's amazing how close it is to like a [TS]

00:27:31   supergenius supervillain though like you [TS]

00:27:33   really you want somebody who's thinking [TS]

00:27:35   two or three steps ahead you don't want [TS]

00:27:37   some guy who goes out well i'll make a [TS]

00:27:39   green car that doesn't need to be [TS]

00:27:41   recharged we've got that you know we [TS]

00:27:42   want something started way way way ahead [TS]

00:27:44   of this [TS]

00:27:45   thanks mr. behind the curve guess what [TS]

00:27:49   guess what do you want musk is doing [TS]

00:27:50   right now something way more far out and [TS]

00:27:53   freaky spine a lot of space ribbon right [TS]

00:27:56   now here's a question for you is Elon [TS]

00:27:58   Musk a pan man I isn't European well [TS]

00:28:04   he's got a weird own south african south [TS]

00:28:06   african south african-born [TS]

00:28:08   canadian-american business magnate it [TS]

00:28:11   says here [TS]

00:28:12   God so he was born in Pretoria is he a [TS]

00:28:16   pan man i don't think he's a pan man I [TS]

00:28:18   think Richard Branson is much closer to [TS]

00:28:21   a powers right he's pretty panties panty [TS]

00:28:23   he gets figured photos of himself on jet [TS]

00:28:25   skis with ladies but i'm looking at elon [TS]

00:28:27   musk and i'm picturing a chin beard [TS]

00:28:30   and it's not hard to picture you know [TS]

00:28:32   what I'm saying like like he might be [TS]

00:28:35   Abby might be a shaved pan man I think I [TS]

00:28:39   don't want to upset anybody John but i [TS]

00:28:41   gotta tell you i think you know German [TS]

00:28:43   accent still reads a certain way to [TS]

00:28:45   Americans and I think it'd be much more [TS]

00:28:47   evil sounding accent to me is the Dutch [TS]

00:28:49   accent em before the Dutch accent as as [TS]

00:28:53   transmogrified through the South African [TS]

00:28:55   oh yeah [TS]

00:28:57   yes when you hear those guys talk man [TS]

00:28:59   did you see that Dad that the movie with [TS]

00:29:02   the giant bugs for South Africa was [TS]

00:29:04   called this district nine is that what i [TS]

00:29:06   did i did see it and it was an example [TS]

00:29:08   of a movie that I i really liked the [TS]

00:29:10   writing i like the premise I like [TS]

00:29:12   everything about it except the design of [TS]

00:29:17   the space bugs was to me [TS]

00:29:21   biologically him implausible / [TS]

00:29:25   impossible that the products the [TS]

00:29:27   products that cross like this get the [TS]

00:29:28   skeletal structure of them seemed to [TS]

00:29:31   have been designed by a videogame comic [TS]

00:29:34   book artist and not by somebody that had [TS]

00:29:36   a grounding in biology and so it was [TS]

00:29:40   like I did not feel from the moment they [TS]

00:29:43   came on-screen that anything would [TS]

00:29:45   actually evolve in that shape it felt [TS]

00:29:48   like a thing that was designed by a [TS]

00:29:50   teenager to look cool [TS]

00:29:52   rather than designed by somebody who [TS]

00:29:54   primarily was thinking how would a thing [TS]

00:29:58   evolve if a prawn was going to become [TS]

00:30:01   bipedal how would how would that look [TS]

00:30:04   and it would I did I did not feel like [TS]

00:30:07   it would look like that and so the whole [TS]

00:30:08   movie which I otherwise enjoyed every [TS]

00:30:12   time those things came on-screen I was [TS]

00:30:13   like you know what [TS]

00:30:15   no no we're getting a little baby was [TS]

00:30:18   kid I Ron you know cute baby prawns not [TS]

00:30:24   that's not what I go to movies [TS]

00:30:25   yeah you know when when when the alien [TS]

00:30:28   came on the screen in the particular [TS]

00:30:32   alien particular alien in the film alien [TS]

00:30:34   like maybe not maybe not anymore [TS]

00:30:42   plausible but but at least believable [TS]

00:30:46   realistic right you look at it you're [TS]

00:30:49   like it yes I could see this is kind of [TS]

00:30:51   like a cockroach lizard dinosaur dragon [TS]

00:30:54   HR giger dragon [TS]

00:30:56   yeah but they're very other-worldly [TS]

00:30:57   other-worldly scary but also like the [TS]

00:31:01   things about it that were scary where [TS]

00:31:02   like where we're meaningfully scary it [TS]

00:31:06   was slimy and had it had teeth and then [TS]

00:31:09   more teeth like you know it it felt like [TS]

00:31:13   a thing that that that but that could [TS]

00:31:16   live [TS]

00:31:17   yeah but the prawns and district nine [TS]

00:31:19   felt like not a then felt like a cgi [TS]

00:31:22   fake monster [TS]

00:31:25   yeah and you know a lot of people talk [TS]

00:31:26   about this especially with regard to [TS]

00:31:28   things like alien and jaws but one thing [TS]

00:31:31   that makes those kinds of monsters so [TS]

00:31:33   successful is that they don't get that [TS]

00:31:35   much screen time you don't get that much [TS]

00:31:36   time to see them in the baking hot Sun [TS]

00:31:38   of johannesburg for 15 minutes at a time [TS]

00:31:41   there's something much more i mean so [TS]

00:31:43   much scarier in some ways that you so I [TS]

00:31:45   mean that's what I think there's that [TS]

00:31:46   one scene at the end where she's in her [TS]

00:31:49   underwear where you can kind of see what [TS]

00:31:51   the thing looks like a kind of looks [TS]

00:31:53   like a guy in a suit your talk about [TS]

00:31:55   alien alien yeah yeah yeah well I mean [TS]

00:31:59   you know that there there's nothing [TS]

00:32:01   about the jaws shark that looks like a [TS]

00:32:06   shark when you look at it right it looks [TS]

00:32:09   like a it looks like a donation bath toy [TS]

00:32:12   yeah and and yet that's a scary movie [TS]

00:32:16   yes very may have lots of technical [TS]

00:32:19   problems with the various sharks [TS]

00:32:21   yeah thing I've read the IMDb have you [TS]

00:32:24   frustrating it you know my problem with [TS]

00:32:29   the district nine guy is not his face [TS]

00:32:32   it's not his it wasn't the personality [TS]

00:32:35   of the guy [TS]

00:32:36   it wasn't the little lobster claws it [TS]

00:32:39   was the joint between the backbone and [TS]

00:32:41   my hip bones right that kind of like [TS]

00:32:44   exaggerated a you know where the pelvis [TS]

00:32:49   the pelvic bone into the inn [TS]

00:32:52   to the hips it just looked like it [TS]

00:32:56   looked like they had designed to thing [TS]

00:32:58   and then try to make it cooler by [TS]

00:33:00   cantilever ringing it's it's be hips and [TS]

00:33:05   hands it's like you know what that was [TS]

00:33:08   not necessary and it's that and I don't [TS]

00:33:10   like it believable I like the angle of [TS]

00:33:12   the guy getting the hand though I [TS]

00:33:13   thought that was pretty cool [TS]

00:33:14   yeah that was good yeah okay I see what [TS]

00:33:16   you're saying you know what I mean like [TS]

00:33:17   it just feels like a little bit like uh [TS]

00:33:19   huh yeah okay I get it I get it [TS]

00:33:22   robot robot a fetishist river [TS]

00:33:27   well you know justjust say you're ready [TS]

00:33:28   when your daughter is old enough and the [TS]

00:33:30   ants in a bug's life have four limbs the [TS]

00:33:35   ants have four limbs [TS]

00:33:36   yeah well that's like it's like a Jerry [TS]

00:33:39   Seinfeld and right it's like a cross [TS]

00:33:41   it's a it's a crossbred crossbreed what [TS]

00:33:44   half Jerry Seinfeld half and I you might [TS]

00:33:48   be confusing it with ants with a Z which [TS]

00:33:50   i think the Woody Allen version of bugs [TS]

00:33:52   life so there's but there's bugs lives [TS]

00:33:54   and there's and I think there's a you [TS]

00:33:56   know this happens very Seinfeld and I [TS]

00:33:59   think this definitely pretty definitely [TS]

00:34:02   not a bug's life that you got you got [TS]

00:34:04   your Kevin Spacey's you got your day [TS]

00:34:05   fully oh you know you guys got Elaine [TS]

00:34:07   from Seinfeld us in it [TS]

00:34:09   oh she's the the princess aunt bug's [TS]

00:34:13   life is pretty great [TS]

00:34:14   it's pretty great movie but like you [TS]

00:34:15   know even though I I like to think of [TS]

00:34:17   myself as not being that guy I I still [TS]

00:34:19   kinda wish they had you know six legs [TS]

00:34:22   OIC I thought you were going to say you [TS]

00:34:24   wish they had Jerry Seinfeld better i [TS]

00:34:26   wish she wasn't exactly anatomically [TS]

00:34:27   correct Elaine Benes okay yeah i I don't [TS]

00:34:31   I don't I cannot I can't watch movies [TS]

00:34:39   yeah because they're so disappointing [TS]

00:34:41   showing 1-1 with lots of buzz or just in [TS]

00:34:45   general just I mean the other day I went [TS]

00:34:49   to see a movie I want to see the movie [TS]

00:34:52   the guardians of the galaxy [TS]

00:34:54   boy they're not say bad words oh no oh [TS]

00:34:58   no you didn't like it I thought it was [TS]

00:35:00   great [TS]

00:35:01   oh my god i love you i want to watch it [TS]

00:35:02   again the second it was over it was [TS]

00:35:04   really really great [TS]

00:35:05   india thesaurus it was an example of a [TS]

00:35:08   movie that was great because it was it [TS]

00:35:12   was great at every level and the writing [TS]

00:35:15   was just good it was just good and the [TS]

00:35:19   casting was good and when I see a movie [TS]

00:35:22   like that where and that I know [TS]

00:35:23   everybody has the same experience when [TS]

00:35:26   you see a movie like that he go [TS]

00:35:28   why is it if you can do that then why is [TS]

00:35:30   it every fucking movie like that now [TS]

00:35:31   there are tens of thousands of people in [TS]

00:35:34   Hollywood making movies is it really [TS]

00:35:37   true that only like four of them are [TS]

00:35:38   smart or or what [TS]

00:35:41   like all you have to do is see a movie [TS]

00:35:43   like that and go okay well that that's [TS]

00:35:44   what we should be doing that's what all [TS]

00:35:46   movies should be like right so go for it [TS]

00:35:48   everybody that's your standard if your [TS]

00:35:50   script isn't as funny at least as [TS]

00:35:52   guardians of the galaxy then throw it in [TS]

00:35:54   the garbage can and don't make the movie [TS]

00:35:56   but it but but you get what you get one [TS]

00:35:59   guardians of the galaxy every five years [TS]

00:36:01   ten years you know i'm a big marvel fan [TS]

00:36:04   and I'm our family has seen all of the [TS]

00:36:07   mini Marvel movies many many times we've [TS]

00:36:09   seen that you know that the x-men movies [TS]

00:36:11   the spider-man movies not the spider my [TS]

00:36:13   brother lives in spider and once we've [TS]

00:36:14   seen all the x-men movies numerous times [TS]

00:36:16   using all the Iron Man movies i love the [TS]

00:36:18   the captain america movie but it's weird [TS]

00:36:21   how like the movies i think are most [TS]

00:36:23   successful of the Marvel movies are the [TS]

00:36:25   more slight ones like the first Thor [TS]

00:36:27   movie which some people really hate I i [TS]

00:36:28   thought was hilarious because they take [TS]

00:36:30   the mickey out of Thor you know he's not [TS]

00:36:32   even like just pretentious when he's [TS]

00:36:34   pretentious it's funny or like you know [TS]

00:36:35   obviously the first Iron Man movies [TS]

00:36:37   really great but like you know the [TS]

00:36:39   Avengers is still it's really really [TS]

00:36:41   good but it's really fucking long and [TS]

00:36:44   it's kind of three movies it's long and [TS]

00:36:46   it's it's very self serious [TS]

00:36:48   the whole middle part that could for a [TS]

00:36:49   long time we don't do this much now so [TS]

00:36:51   don't watch as much but we're watching a [TS]

00:36:52   lot we would watch basically up to the [TS]

00:36:55   point where they start arguments to each [TS]

00:36:56   other and skip the entire Middle like [TS]

00:36:59   our and then go straight to the Chitauri [TS]

00:37:01   attacking because that's what the you [TS]

00:37:03   know where the fun is [TS]

00:37:04   well except that I felt like that was [TS]

00:37:06   the first in a long series of movies [TS]

00:37:08   where hundreds of thousands if not [TS]

00:37:10   millions of people died in collateral [TS]

00:37:12   damage and current little attention was [TS]

00:37:14   paid to them [TS]

00:37:15   well you [TS]

00:37:15   Hawkeye and BlackWidow were on the [TS]

00:37:16   ground trying to help but you know it's [TS]

00:37:18   funny is if you some weak-ass characters [TS]

00:37:20   on the ground running around trying to [TS]

00:37:22   save me seat x two or three babies [TS]

00:37:24   anything on that bus window for you [TS]

00:37:26   while whole wall well-built whole [TS]

00:37:28   building full of people are probably a [TS]

00:37:30   lot of people's beef with the Superman [TS]

00:37:32   you know I couldn't even watch that [TS]

00:37:35   one's outlook that was so terrible [TS]

00:37:36   terrible movie get but the 1i want to [TS]

00:37:39   contrast guardians of the galaxy with is [TS]

00:37:42   that pretty terrible hitchhiker's guide [TS]

00:37:45   to the galaxy movie which had if you do [TS]

00:37:48   as I was watching guardians of the [TS]

00:37:50   galaxy I was like this is exactly the [TS]

00:37:52   tone can ! information is going into [TS]

00:37:56   this but you get that that those are [TS]

00:37:58   super peripheral characters historically [TS]

00:38:01   we're how familiar were you with the [TS]

00:38:03   characters in the general mojo of Thanos [TS]

00:38:06   and all that hopefully where you with [TS]

00:38:07   that part of the Marvel mythology [TS]

00:38:09   let me put it to you this way Marlon [TS]

00:38:11   what's nice for me about the Marvel [TS]

00:38:14   Comics universe is that they are all [TS]

00:38:17   peripheral characters to me this episode [TS]

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00:39:36   on the line we could not do without us [TS]

00:39:38   ok when I was really putting Wilberforce [TS]

00:39:41   when I went to see The Avengers I was [TS]

00:39:43   like where's the stretchy guy [TS]

00:39:45   what is the stretchy got command a [TS]

00:39:47   Silver Surfer why isn't the Silver [TS]

00:39:49   Surfer here like I like peripheral comic [TS]

00:39:52   characters are everybody that's not [TS]

00:39:55   spider-man and Batman to me like even [TS]

00:39:57   green lantern seems he's super fertile [TS]

00:40:00   or whatever I mean like I like totally [TS]

00:40:02   tell [TS]

00:40:03   and the thing is like Hodgman spends a [TS]

00:40:04   lot of time trying to school me on the [TS]

00:40:06   different engr darkside don't see and [TS]

00:40:08   are asked dark side versus danos don't [TS]

00:40:10   get him started [TS]

00:40:11   yeah and I'm like which one has which [TS]

00:40:14   one is the Julia set comics in it [TS]

00:40:16   because I don't give a fuck [TS]

00:40:20   so when I want to see the matter if it's [TS]

00:40:22   different when I want to see the [TS]

00:40:23   adventures I was like okay all these [TS]

00:40:26   people are in the same world all right [TS]

00:40:27   and there's a flying aircraft carrier [TS]

00:40:30   and then the guy from pulp fiction's in [TS]

00:40:35   this one and uh there's a lot of like [TS]

00:40:40   this guy's from the this guy's from [TS]

00:40:42   world war two and discuss from another [TS]

00:40:44   he's a God on another planet like wow [TS]

00:40:48   you guys will really watch anything so [TS]

00:40:54   when guardians of the galaxy came out [TS]

00:40:55   and I was reading all the all the stuff [TS]

00:40:57   in there like these are some really [TS]

00:40:58   peripheral characters i was like oh my [TS]

00:41:00   good if you know and when I saw the [TS]

00:41:03   raccoon I was like if why isn't this [TS]

00:41:06   raccoon the star of all media why is [TS]

00:41:10   every movie not about this raccoon and n [TS]

00:41:13   again n via and the dude the group the [TS]

00:41:16   not well not good no group was [TS]

00:41:18   interesting i like right there was never [TS]

00:41:20   a problem with the Duke the star-lord [TS]

00:41:23   star-lord like the casting of this guy [TS]

00:41:27   when he first appeared on screen I was [TS]

00:41:28   like oh here's a biz pretty boy actor [TS]

00:41:31   that guy from that thing he's 28 years [TS]

00:41:33   old he was here and then I realized he [TS]

00:41:36   was at the guy [TS]

00:41:37   zero dark thirty which is a movie that I [TS]

00:41:41   really haha wow you're right he played [TS]

00:41:44   the Navy ceilings are zero dark thirty i [TS]

00:41:46   think it is amazing the doofy Guy from [TS]

00:41:48   Parks and Rec well see i have never [TS]

00:41:50   watched that show except I've seen it on [TS]

00:41:51   an airplane if he plays a doofy Guy well [TS]

00:41:55   but in in zero dark thirty he played he [TS]

00:41:59   was the gig was the guy that gave me the [TS]

00:42:01   real insight into Navy SEAL culture that [TS]

00:42:03   i did not have before that that great [TS]

00:42:06   line that she says when they're like [TS]

00:42:08   they're there they're looking at the [TS]

00:42:10   Black Hawk helicopter at area 51 and [TS]

00:42:13   they're like what's the plan and she and [TS]

00:42:16   then the CIA lady says you know what I [TS]

00:42:18   didn't even want to use you guys with [TS]

00:42:20   your dip and yours velcro and your [TS]

00:42:22   students if straps and their the hell [TS]

00:42:25   kind of look at each other like she's [TS]

00:42:27   she's slamming the Navy SEALs as being a [TS]

00:42:30   bunch of redneck dip weeds and i was i [TS]

00:42:34   was so excited by that scene in the [TS]

00:42:36   movie I was like yeah the CIA gal is [TS]

00:42:39   Colin the Navy SEALs a bunch of dip [TS]

00:42:43   weeds little bit and then they really [TS]

00:42:46   played and this guy in particular played [TS]

00:42:48   that character of like he is he is the [TS]

00:42:53   he's America's like the tease the tip of [TS]

00:42:56   the spear but he's also a redneck dip [TS]

00:42:59   weed and that makes so much sense to me [TS]

00:43:02   that the tip of our spear is a are a [TS]

00:43:07   bunch of deep weeds [TS]

00:43:08   I really appreciate that they're all [TS]

00:43:10   they're all really smart at dealing with [TS]

00:43:12   the implementation but you wouldn't want [TS]

00:43:14   to ask him a lot of super high level [TS]

00:43:15   strategy stuff [TS]

00:43:16   yeah they're great at like working the [TS]

00:43:19   gears of the of the gizmos that they've [TS]

00:43:21   been given their basically exactly the [TS]

00:43:24   people that I imagined populating the [TS]

00:43:27   world of cobra in the GI Joe universe [TS]

00:43:30   back when i was fighting little wars [TS]

00:43:33   between GI joe cobra in my bathtub long [TS]

00:43:39   past the point where i should have [TS]

00:43:40   stopped playing with those toys [TS]

00:43:42   in the early eighties anyway long way of [TS]

00:43:46   saying that that that that particular [TS]

00:43:48   actor cast in that role he had all of [TS]

00:43:51   the kind of like swagger like don't like [TS]

00:43:54   kind of dumb swagger of Han Solo but he [TS]

00:43:58   was just he was just like.he was [TS]

00:44:00   charmingly dumb but then he also liked [TS]

00:44:04   was good good fighter and a good he's [TS]

00:44:08   funny actor I just thought that movie [TS]

00:44:10   was wonderful i love zero dark thirty [TS]

00:44:12   that one but also guardians of the [TS]

00:44:15   galaxy right right and and so I and I [TS]

00:44:17   felt like like part of the part of my [TS]

00:44:20   problem with our culture is this [TS]

00:44:21   insistence on all these fantasy [TS]

00:44:23   universes that feel kind of charmless [TS]

00:44:27   and even gormless like if this is really [TS]

00:44:29   a this is a world you want to live in [TS]

00:44:31   this is Right there--see way over [TS]

00:44:33   thought way over engineered and but I [TS]

00:44:35   mean with guardians of the galaxy I mean [TS]

00:44:37   it's you know I was really looking [TS]

00:44:38   forward to it i like the comic i like [TS]

00:44:41   this the characters are very fun to me [TS]

00:44:43   my daughter loves them but you know it [TS]

00:44:46   was such an improbable like when you [TS]

00:44:48   slog through something like iron man 3 [TS]

00:44:50   or whatever it's like you know it's good [TS]

00:44:51   i mean Robert Downey jr. has redefined [TS]

00:44:53   that character he's quick he's so you [TS]

00:44:55   don't you seen any of those with the [TS]

00:44:56   first ones like particularly really good [TS]

00:44:58   but you know really well done but like [TS]

00:45:00   that this improbable combination of [TS]

00:45:04   characters even comic fans may not be [TS]

00:45:06   familiar with with this totally [TS]

00:45:08   wackadoodle you know a far-out cosmic [TS]

00:45:11   story that's kind of hard to follow the [TS]

00:45:14   casting this script the script which had [TS]

00:45:17   if it had been a little bit more clever [TS]

00:45:19   would have been too clever too clever [TS]

00:45:21   that's right like I know what if ever [TS]

00:45:23   there was never a moment in the film [TS]

00:45:24   because I'm always watching ya up for [TS]

00:45:26   the moment we're in order to make [TS]

00:45:29   something happen in the script they [TS]

00:45:32   violate some core laws of gravity [TS]

00:45:37   looking people actually communicate [TS]

00:45:39   things like that right and and and and [TS]

00:45:41   at no point in the script did anybody [TS]

00:45:43   have to violate any universal laws at [TS]

00:45:46   all just seemed like sure of course like [TS]

00:45:49   there's some fantastical stuff happening [TS]

00:45:52   but I [TS]

00:45:54   am I believe in gravity still I believe [TS]

00:45:57   in I believe that light goes fast [TS]

00:46:01   yeah but i also there's some people like [TS]

00:46:03   I think about people like John Woo orbit [TS]

00:46:06   what's his headgear mal del Toro there's [TS]

00:46:09   a certain kinds of directors that make [TS]

00:46:10   these movies that are on the face of a [TS]

00:46:12   completely implausible but i buy into it [TS]

00:46:15   because they pull it off they pull off [TS]

00:46:17   what they intend to pull off which is [TS]

00:46:19   this crazy adventure and like in this [TS]

00:46:21   movie even through a young last maybe [TS]

00:46:23   the end of the second act gets a little [TS]

00:46:25   bit of a slog with the friendship and [TS]

00:46:27   friendship but you know what i buy it is [TS]

00:46:30   like Roger reviews where people are [TS]

00:46:31   walking on top of trees [TS]

00:46:33   yes you like karate movies where people [TS]

00:46:35   jump up in the air and are a capable of [TS]

00:46:37   flipping around six times I when they're [TS]

00:46:41   well done if you want something like [TS]

00:46:42   nothing just crushing tire with [TS]

00:46:44   something like it man or something like [TS]

00:46:46   yeah I do I like the specimens when [TS]

00:46:48   they're done well it's yeah it's a where [TS]

00:46:51   there's one called shiro you're seeing [TS]

00:46:54   hero even I think I recommended that to [TS]

00:46:56   you [TS]

00:46:57   that's one that I think really stands [TS]

00:46:58   out with you what's your feeling on this [TS]

00:47:00   wire when it comes wire-walking wire [TS]

00:47:03   training well you know the that when I [TS]

00:47:05   saw crouching tiger hidden dragon that [TS]

00:47:07   was the first time I ever saw somebody [TS]

00:47:08   like it and saw it as a plot point that [TS]

00:47:11   using the ancient chinese secrets you [TS]

00:47:17   could conceivably like walk out like a [TS]

00:47:21   sashay across all like in tangible [TS]

00:47:24   objects to to the top of a 40-foot like [TS]

00:47:28   thing of bamboo and just stand up on the [TS]

00:47:30   top of it on top of a leaf and I was [TS]

00:47:33   like whoa okay I if you know if I'm [TS]

00:47:38   gonna watch a movie with wizards in it [TS]

00:47:40   that isn't any greater of a suspension [TS]

00:47:43   of disbelief than this so i am well I'm [TS]

00:47:45   along for the ride like absolutely i [TS]

00:47:48   like that movie a lot and I was along [TS]

00:47:49   for the ride but what it did was it [TS]

00:47:51   opened the floodgates for every action [TS]

00:47:55   movie to have just normal people were no [TS]

00:47:58   supernatural skills involved like we [TS]

00:48:02   were because you're angry enough and [TS]

00:48:03   Karen if you can suddenly when a bar [TS]

00:48:05   fight with five guys [TS]

00:48:06   or you can jump 60 feet from one [TS]

00:48:08   building to the next or you can run up a [TS]

00:48:10   wall and flip over kick two guys in the [TS]

00:48:13   middle of the air fire your guns and you [TS]

00:48:17   know and land on land then land on a [TS]

00:48:20   piece of bamboo and all you are is bruce [TS]

00:48:23   willis and it's like me [TS]

00:48:25   no no that is that is that has that [TS]

00:48:29   crossing dragger could Crouch and [TS]

00:48:31   dragger hidden dragon introduced into in [TS]

00:48:36   the same way that the matrix did [TS]

00:48:37   introduced into the world of filmmaking [TS]

00:48:40   technology that was immediately adopted [TS]

00:48:42   by people with no imaginations right and [TS]

00:48:45   and it just turned that whole genre into [TS]

00:48:48   kid garbage kid garbage that were [TS]

00:48:51   feeding kids that are turning them into [TS]

00:48:53   garbage adults kid garbage what I [TS]

00:48:56   believe people believe things to believe [TS]

00:48:59   things are real they're not real fine i [TS]

00:49:01   think of a little since before I think [TS]

00:49:03   of a little bit like a Joni Mitchell [TS]

00:49:04   problem we're like you know man I i if [TS]

00:49:07   you can't get into jenny mitchell album [TS]

00:49:09   blue like I can't help you because i [TS]

00:49:10   think it's just about perfect but for [TS]

00:49:12   the love of Christ think about how many [TS]

00:49:14   dozens and dozens of people like or [TS]

00:49:16   buffy sainte-marie or whoever somebody [TS]

00:49:18   with that trilling like folk style [TS]

00:49:20   picked it up and you just please stop [TS]

00:49:22   doing that please [TS]

00:49:23   it's the in somebody's done done very [TS]

00:49:25   well you can learn from that but please [TS]

00:49:27   stop doing that please stop doing that [TS]

00:49:28   don't you think [TS]

00:49:29   well I have this problem a lot because [TS]

00:49:32   i'm i'm often asked to consult with [TS]

00:49:35   young songwriters right people say hey [TS]

00:49:38   I've got this young songwriter and i [TS]

00:49:40   would love you to listen to their demo [TS]

00:49:41   and talk to them and the number one my [TS]

00:49:47   number one thing that I that I have when [TS]

00:49:49   listening to demos is and and oftentimes [TS]

00:49:53   i will be i'll be very pleasantly [TS]

00:49:54   surprised 20 year old singer who has [TS]

00:49:57   great songs interesting lyrics really [TS]

00:50:00   good song structure the number one thing [TS]

00:50:03   I say is please stop singing like that [TS]

00:50:05   why are you singing like that like an [TS]

00:50:07   affected style and and every young [TS]

00:50:10   vocalist now is singing in an affected [TS]

00:50:13   style either really pressing [TS]

00:50:15   e or whole way back in the back of your [TS]

00:50:19   throat or low like with the trails or Oh [TS]

00:50:24   kind of you know it's 60 spoke or what [TS]

00:50:29   or I like none of them can just sing in [TS]

00:50:35   their voice because no contemporary [TS]

00:50:39   singer singing their voice over here is [TS]

00:50:41   the people that they're trying to affect [TS]

00:50:43   we're seeing in some version of their [TS]

00:50:46   voice you know I mean some somebody who [TS]

00:50:48   is doing that trying to just strict like [TS]

00:50:50   straight-up ape Jim Morrison you know [TS]

00:50:53   wouldn't count on you've got you've got [TS]

00:50:55   to have your own take on right but that [TS]

00:50:57   is no longer true like like music now [TS]

00:51:00   his is such a jigsaw puzzle of [TS]

00:51:04   influences and the end and I'm fine with [TS]

00:51:06   that in the songwriting and I'm fine [TS]

00:51:07   with that in the production of albums [TS]

00:51:09   but but I'm astonished that singer after [TS]

00:51:14   singer after singer i come to me with [TS]

00:51:18   these voices that are just like you are [TS]

00:51:21   just pretending to sing like somebody [TS]

00:51:23   and they will look at me very earnestly [TS]

00:51:26   and say like what that's my style what [TS]

00:51:28   are you talking about like that's the [TS]

00:51:29   key to my whole style and they really do [TS]

00:51:31   feel like that of all the things that [TS]

00:51:34   they were hoping that I would tell them [TS]

00:51:36   to change of all the things that they [TS]

00:51:39   are willing to change their vocal [TS]

00:51:41   affectation is the is what they think is [TS]

00:51:44   their style and you know and for myself [TS]

00:51:50   when I think back to my early days of [TS]

00:51:52   singing like sometimes i wish i had [TS]

00:51:54   affected my book voice a little bit more [TS]

00:51:56   because I here guys all the time my age [TS]

00:51:59   I'm saying with the little bit more [TS]

00:52:02   gravel in the board and I go yeah if I [TS]

00:52:08   had a little bit more of that maybe I [TS]

00:52:09   would be more [TS]

00:52:11   maybe i would be part of a tougher [TS]

00:52:15   tradition which is something I kind of I [TS]

00:52:20   can't think of anybody that you're [TS]

00:52:21   singing of reminds me of when people [TS]

00:52:24   compare the long winters other bands are [TS]

00:52:25   frequent frequently flummoxed because I [TS]

00:52:27   just don't I don't hear it either in the [TS]

00:52:29   songs or installer is that somebody who [TS]

00:52:31   maybe was a terrible Allmusic reviewer [TS]

00:52:32   million years ago was singing sound a [TS]

00:52:35   lot like REM and I can hear some REM in [TS]

00:52:37   like sum REM in instrumentation but i [TS]

00:52:42   don't hear it all in the songwriting for [TS]

00:52:44   the proponents and you know and michael [TS]

00:52:46   stipe is an example of a guy who's [TS]

00:52:47   singing like himself [TS]

00:52:48   I mean you know that these things he [TS]

00:52:50   sounds like him right [TS]

00:52:52   I don't know I think bono had a big [TS]

00:52:55   influence i think there's still a lot of [TS]

00:52:56   people today that are I mean it just [TS]

00:53:01   seems like there's so many people today [TS]

00:53:03   that really are selling they're still [TS]

00:53:04   doing a version of bono circa wore em I [TS]

00:53:09   mean that's like you know Coldplay or [TS]

00:53:12   like the killers or like somewhere [TS]

00:53:14   between like Bono and maybe a little bit [TS]

00:53:16   of morrissey there is a certain kind of [TS]

00:53:18   plaintiff style that is way above the [TS]

00:53:22   caliber of the music lyrics in terms of [TS]

00:53:25   its effect [TS]

00:53:27   yeah yeah well that's you know and [TS]

00:53:29   that's like what people hear is the [TS]

00:53:31   sound of stadium rock but the the one [TS]

00:53:34   that confuses me [TS]

00:53:35   i think is the confusing me the most is [TS]

00:53:38   the joni mitchell voice or I mean I [TS]

00:53:42   understand the christina aguilera voice [TS]

00:53:44   because that is a kind of that's a [TS]

00:53:47   version of stadium Rock I guess you know [TS]

00:53:50   like like that where it feels like the [TS]

00:53:53   song is a very interesting so let's put [TS]

00:53:55   in a lot more note with acrobatics and [TS]

00:53:57   sizzle yeah let's go from one note to [TS]

00:53:59   the next Mariah Carey really really [TS]

00:54:01   helped pioneer that [TS]

00:54:02   yeah she was the she was the shoes the [TS]

00:54:05   original war criminal [TS]

00:54:07   but uh but they but the the weird folk [TS]

00:54:12   like the joni mitchell voice the like [TS]

00:54:14   super in your head voice the way way [TS]

00:54:16   back in the back of your throat voice [TS]

00:54:18   their the up in your nasal cavity voices [TS]

00:54:21   these are the ones where it just feels [TS]

00:54:23   like why what are you afraid of [TS]

00:54:26   why don't you just sing like in your [TS]

00:54:30   voice and I mean time and time again I'm [TS]

00:54:33   just looked at what these blank faces [TS]

00:54:36   until I kind of am inhibited now to even [TS]

00:54:38   say something when I hear somebody [TS]

00:54:40   singing in fake voice it feels like one [TS]

00:54:42   of those things where I'm the guy from [TS]

00:54:44   old-fashioned town was like why are you [TS]

00:54:47   saying you're fake voice that they were [TS]

00:54:49   expecting you sit down pencil and paper [TS]

00:54:50   and talk about couplets and minor chords [TS]

00:54:53   yeah look at the song how the song could [TS]

00:54:55   be stronger better bridge that kind of [TS]

00:54:56   thing and I definitely do that type of [TS]

00:54:58   thing but the but the thing that any [TS]

00:55:01   thing that keeps me out of the of their [TS]

00:55:04   music more often than not it's just that [TS]

00:55:07   they're doing it in this style and I [TS]

00:55:08   mean and I guess if you were if you were [TS]

00:55:11   a young metal singer in 1980 and you [TS]

00:55:14   came out and when like that was the [TS]

00:55:19   style of the music you were making and [TS]

00:55:20   you perceived that to be necessary to [TS]

00:55:24   the music you were trying to do and so [TS]

00:55:26   it was in the style that you you thought [TS]

00:55:29   you belonged maybe not how you would [TS]

00:55:32   have some if you had come up in a [TS]

00:55:35   perfect vacuum but but these weird folk [TS]

00:55:39   voices and weird head voices that people [TS]

00:55:43   sing in now i don't i guess maybe it's [TS]

00:55:47   either that I don't perceive I don't see [TS]

00:55:50   a musical vein or a tradition that other [TS]

00:55:54   that that maybe they see maybe they see [TS]

00:55:57   themselves as descendants of of joni [TS]

00:55:59   mitchell in a way that I is like [TS]

00:56:01   incomprehensible to me i'm not sure but [TS]

00:56:04   this is this intrude more often than not [TS]

00:56:07   and and back in the indie rock days it [TS]

00:56:09   was just that everybody was whispering [TS]

00:56:11   all that all the boys singers were [TS]

00:56:12   singing quiet and faith i think yeah [TS]

00:56:16   like you think about the stuff that came [TS]

00:56:17   along and again I'm followed me to close [TS]

00:56:18   in awhile but in the two thousands of [TS]

00:56:20   thinking of like an [TS]

00:56:21   iron and wine kicking it off kind of you [TS]

00:56:24   know real whispery or even but you know [TS]

00:56:28   but then you also get stuff like you get [TS]

00:56:29   the mark I'd souls and you get the the [TS]

00:56:32   we know the red house painters and that [TS]

00:56:34   kind of stuff which was much more like [TS]

00:56:36   plaintiff but that kind of became a [TS]

00:56:38   thing when you were first putting out [TS]

00:56:40   records was the whole whispery bearded [TS]

00:56:42   guy [TS]

00:56:42   yeah it did it is kind of a thing right [TS]

00:56:45   yeah i was now I was not ever really I i [TS]

00:56:48   obviously I loved some of that music but [TS]

00:56:50   I did not feel akin to it because it [TS]

00:56:53   felt like why are you doing that was [TS]

00:56:54   pretty gimmicky yeah right and and it at [TS]

00:56:58   it it has i mean it's not as bad as the [TS]

00:57:00   Eddie Vetter voice but it just feels [TS]

00:57:02   like what it is this song would this [TS]

00:57:06   song if you just saying it straight but [TS]

00:57:09   it still be an emotional song right if [TS]

00:57:14   not then singing it you know like you [TS]

00:57:17   are whispering it through the through [TS]

00:57:19   the electrical outlets in your prison [TS]

00:57:21   cell here to the guy in the prison cell [TS]

00:57:25   next door like I'm I it's just it's just [TS]

00:57:29   it's a song about fucking nothing in the [TS]

00:57:31   first place so so whispering it to make [TS]

00:57:33   it seem intense is pretty lame and [TS]

00:57:37   they're probably very grateful for your [TS]

00:57:38   input that right the young people [TS]

00:57:39   everybody wants to hear what I think [TS]

00:57:41   thank you guys thank you for help [TS]

00:57:43   the number one thing that young people [TS]

00:57:45   want to hear is the advice of a guy [TS]

00:57:48   whose band they've never heard of who is [TS]

00:57:53   old and who does not phrase things very [TS]

00:57:57   nicely thats what young people want you [TS]

00:58:00   can always go to chris wallace anecdotes [TS]

00:58:02   nobody knows who he is anymore [TS]

00:58:05   oh snap like anymore uh the the young [TS]

00:58:08   people a you-know-what fast John it's [TS]

00:58:12   moving really fast and had this [TS]

00:58:14   conversation before they only listen to [TS]

00:58:15   electronic dance music now they do not [TS]

00:58:17   care about rock [TS]

00:58:19   yeah care about guitars Merlin yeah [TS]

00:58:22   the guitar is the clarinet of 2025 i was [TS]

00:58:29   watching a BBC documentary on let me do [TS]

00:58:31   its bit its kind of it [TS]

00:58:33   what about 1962 it's kind of about the [TS]

00:58:35   MIT leading up to you in the making of [TS]

00:58:36   and release of let me do then they were [TS]

00:58:39   reading back some of the projections [TS]

00:58:42   that Brian got from the labels I'm sure [TS]

00:58:45   you seen her but you know the Beatles [TS]

00:58:47   deals will never succeed in pop music [TS]

00:58:49   guitar music is on the way out you know [TS]

00:58:52   they're wrong that once that I'm you [TS]

00:58:54   know that but it now get a powerbook and [TS]

00:58:57   show up you take your shirt off and [TS]

00:58:59   dance around a little bit there was a [TS]

00:59:00   time when the violin was the number one [TS]

00:59:02   instrument [TS]

00:59:03   hmm and not anymore there was a time [TS]

00:59:05   when it was the clarinet and not anymore [TS]

00:59:08   and young people look at guitars and [TS]

00:59:10   they're like yeah I can make every [TS]

00:59:11   single sound of the guitar can make on [TS]

00:59:14   my ipad with the 25 programs i have and [TS]

00:59:18   i don't even like the sound guitar makes [TS]

00:59:20   so why would I do it [TS]

00:59:22   here's what I want to hear but the [TS]

00:59:29   bathroom dsr bills [TS]

00:59:31   sorry I'm working on it organized the [TS]

00:59:35   essence when you go back and [TS]

00:59:38   retroactively lead es other times as [TS]

00:59:42   fast as I don't even know what that [TS]

00:59:45   sounds like a more i know i've been [TS]

00:59:46   bewildered and bewildered want to put on [TS]

00:59:48   the radio sometimes sometimes I get it [TS]

00:59:50   sometimes i get it i enjoy it i learned [TS]

00:59:52   about music now mostly from trailers to [TS]

00:59:54   movies because we're going with my [TS]

00:59:55   daughter go see a movie every kid's [TS]

00:59:57   movie now in the trailer you hear some [TS]

00:59:58   kind of hit song at you [TS]

00:59:58   kind of hit song at you [TS]

01:00:00   often involving someone called pitbull [TS]

01:00:01   and and you your beer pitbull Katy Perry [TS]

01:00:04   Katy produced by bit by Pitbull she [TS]

01:00:07   seems like she's got some chops Katy [TS]

01:00:09   Perry she looks pretty heavily processed [TS]

01:00:11   em go [TS]

01:00:13   she's got some have you got any jobs mhm [TS]

01:00:17   mhm [TS]

01:00:18   you can watch the movie which one [TS]

01:00:21   hi it's got her into heavy cha heavy [TS]

01:00:23   chops yeah i'm ron jeremy [TS]

01:00:26   yeah you can be Perry is one of those [TS]

01:00:28   people that empirically takes a lot of [TS]

01:00:32   boxes for me if you look at somebody and [TS]

01:00:34   we're like does she have darker no [TS]

01:00:36   problem katy perry i gotta tell you i [TS]

01:00:37   got a lot of people have big eyes big [TS]

01:00:41   bazooms good dancer [TS]

01:00:45   yeah funny funny videos yeah but i do [TS]

01:00:47   not but but I just I feel like she's not [TS]

01:00:50   a she's not a hundred percent of a real [TS]

01:00:51   person or something I don't know [TS]

01:00:53   yeah yeah did you remember that show [TS]

01:00:56   everybody likes Raymond yes sure you [TS]

01:01:01   know wife in that show [TS]

01:01:03   yes exactly a the Thompson no no [TS]

01:01:07   it'sit's Scientologist lady right Yoshi [TS]

01:01:09   Scientology double-check sorry I should [TS]

01:01:11   do you know what I got all this out you [TS]

01:01:13   know what but that maybe it will maybe [TS]

01:01:15   what I'm talking about because she's an [TS]

01:01:16   example of a TV start but i would look [TS]

01:01:19   at I would watch that show and I would [TS]

01:01:20   look at her and I would say em I [TS]

01:01:23   attracted to you i want they can invite [TS]

01:01:25   the clicking of a king of queens maybe [TS]

01:01:27   oh I'm very attracted to her she's a [TS]

01:01:29   Scientologist for sure she's the one [TS]

01:01:31   that tried to find trying to find out [TS]

01:01:32   what's going on with David Miscavige is [TS]

01:01:34   a white friends right [TS]

01:01:36   that's and that bouncer out of [TS]

01:01:37   Scientology because they were some they [TS]

01:01:39   were so mad that she they were so mad at [TS]

01:01:42   her that it changed her religion because [TS]

01:01:46   Wow right but even they let you stay in [TS]

01:01:48   you gotta let go go live in a mobile [TS]

01:01:50   home and scrub toilets and stuff do you [TS]

01:01:53   write that book right [TS]

01:01:54   yeah you notice how often that happens [TS]

01:01:55   though that somebody will leave a [TS]

01:01:57   religion only after the people in that [TS]

01:02:00   religion get super mad at them [TS]

01:02:01   it's yes it's crazy that like you could [TS]

01:02:04   be such a true believer for so long in [TS]

01:02:06   something that is so we're you know it's [TS]

01:02:09   way beyond all your family going oh my [TS]

01:02:10   god what happened to you were like your [TS]

01:02:12   even when you become just a little bit [TS]

01:02:14   of an insider just what you would know [TS]

01:02:16   about that shit and still be hanging [TS]

01:02:17   onto it it must take it takes a lot to [TS]

01:02:20   get somebody to want to leave that alone [TS]

01:02:23   don't you think it's pretty clear it it [TS]

01:02:25   doesn't have the thing is the reason [TS]

01:02:26   that I'm interested in is I'm trying to [TS]

01:02:28   figure out exactly how to structure my [TS]

01:02:30   own culty a religion / futuristic [TS]

01:02:37   society you gotta think ahead there's a [TS]

01:02:39   lot of planning and you want to get the [TS]

01:02:40   scale right for example don't say that [TS]

01:02:43   note III is the highest you can go now [TS]

01:02:44   luckily that's a numerical system right [TS]

01:02:46   you can always a DJ at the forefront for [TS]

01:02:48   a long time three was as high as you can [TS]

01:02:50   go and then they discovered like a in a [TS]

01:02:52   cavern already started and he had like a [TS]

01:02:55   bonus levels you find out you find a [TS]

01:02:56   boss Scientologist and you move up you [TS]

01:02:58   become before using callosity was still [TS]

01:03:00   alive with that he was still strapping [TS]

01:03:02   on levels i think when he was living on [TS]

01:03:03   the boat [TS]

01:03:04   yeah yeah well that's a hell of a book [TS]

01:03:07   the your top of the big book Dianetics [TS]

01:03:10   yeah I never read it never regret going [TS]

01:03:12   clear Henry Dianetics watching that [TS]

01:03:15   movie with the with the world philip [TS]

01:03:17   seymour hoffman morning yeah [TS]

01:03:18   yes i was i was impressed with his [TS]

01:03:24   portrayal of l ron has being somebody [TS]

01:03:27   who just got really petulant like a big [TS]

01:03:31   diaper baby whenever somebody pointed [TS]

01:03:34   out even the smallest stephanie with dr. [TS]

01:03:36   P we should mention for legal reasons [TS]

01:03:38   that that is romana clay he is not [TS]

01:03:40   betraying l ron hubbard and we're [TS]

01:03:43   grateful for the support of the [TS]

01:03:44   scientologist community thank you very [TS]

01:03:46   much thank you to all our Scientologist [TS]

01:03:48   let me know what you want to [TS]

01:03:49   Scientologist on the moon don't [TS]

01:03:50   overthink it [TS]

01:03:51   what do what I want when I was at me a [TS]

01:03:54   good faith to send to the moon [TS]

01:03:55   sure they're going with their eyes are [TS]

01:03:57   open if you've reached it i don't want [TS]

01:03:58   to say too much because it's copyrighted [TS]

01:04:00   material but i think if you get to 95 96 [TS]

01:04:02   you're gonna be ready frog seen all [TS]

01:04:03   kinds of shit that most people would be [TS]

01:04:05   really blown away by yeah basically any [TS]

01:04:07   religion that Germany has outlawed I [TS]

01:04:10   think belongs on the moon [TS]

01:04:12   okay that might be good right there [TS]

01:04:19   what [TS]