Roderick on the Line

Ep. 118: "The Articulated Hose King"


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00:00:24   hello I John hi Merlin how's it going [TS]

00:00:28   it's going pretty good how are you huh [TS]

00:00:30   and missed you i know you're back i'm [TS]

00:00:35   almost back [TS]

00:00:36   hm-hm can expand on that a little well i [TS]

00:00:42   don't i don't feel a hundred percent [TS]

00:00:43   back i'm leaving again in a in a couple [TS]

00:00:48   of days to do some more cross-country [TS]

00:00:51   airplane flights which is my number one [TS]

00:00:54   job cross-country airplane flight so I'm [TS]

00:00:57   here but I feel I feel like a dead man [TS]

00:00:59   walking a little bit i gotta get on an [TS]

00:01:01   airplane I gotta go do some more dumb [TS]

00:01:02   shit it's like you're on parole from a [TS]

00:01:04   plane right I'm on hot that's right I [TS]

00:01:06   got it I got a three-day pass from my [TS]

00:01:08   airplane [TS]

00:01:09   uh-huh and now i can just like walk [TS]

00:01:12   around I can breathe normal air i can [TS]

00:01:13   see the flowers blooming every minute [TS]

00:01:16   feels like a lifetime [TS]

00:01:17   it's almost it's almost it's worse than [TS]

00:01:20   just being on the plane just landed [TS]

00:01:22   that's the greatest trick the devil ever [TS]

00:01:24   pulled was not having your flights [TS]

00:01:25   contiguous my goodness i thought you [TS]

00:01:29   know the thing is before i had a child I [TS]

00:01:30   would have just stayed back on the east [TS]

00:01:32   coast for the last week and I would have [TS]

00:01:34   just gone to cafes and I would have I [TS]

00:01:39   would have gone to other cafes don't [TS]

00:01:42   know where I would have been a lot of [TS]

00:01:43   roast beef sandwiches what time to do [TS]

00:01:45   all those things that you just don't [TS]

00:01:46   have time to do now you could start and [TS]

00:01:48   maintain some new social media accounts [TS]

00:01:50   and you can get a read and or right on [TS]

00:01:53   the book and right now I don't have the [TS]

00:01:56   reading time that you still got uh yeah [TS]

00:01:58   I could go to rockefeller center and [TS]

00:02:00   then spin around and then throw my hat [TS]

00:02:02   in the air [TS]

00:02:02   oh yeah thinking that you're in [TS]

00:02:05   minneapolis say yeah well you know [TS]

00:02:06   everywhere you go if you three and [TS]

00:02:08   you're in the air you're in minneapolis [TS]

00:02:10   yeah yeah yeah you can skate yeah they [TS]

00:02:13   probably the Department skating yet but [TS]

00:02:15   you know everything i did a gal one time [TS]

00:02:18   many years ago who had a picture of [TS]

00:02:20   herself skating you know what kind of [TS]

00:02:23   one leg lifted in the air and her hands [TS]

00:02:25   up in the air in front of Rockefeller [TS]

00:02:28   Center and it was right on her desk she [TS]

00:02:31   and it was it was at her desk it was [TS]

00:02:33   facing out it wasn't it wasn't one that [TS]

00:02:37   she was looking at it was what she [TS]

00:02:38   wanted you to stop me to get all roll-on [TS]

00:02:40   Barth here but that's that's there's a [TS]

00:02:42   lot of signification in that so she had [TS]

00:02:44   she had a picture of herself skating on [TS]

00:02:46   one leg that she liked [TS]

00:02:47   that's right but she wanted you to see [TS]

00:02:48   it right she had a Dorothy Hamill [TS]

00:02:50   haircut which helped the presentation of [TS]

00:02:52   the whole photograph her and she [TS]

00:02:57   happened to be my guidance counselor [TS]

00:02:58   when i was in college i was always in [TS]

00:03:05   contact is it that guidance counselor [TS]

00:03:07   yeah she was whatever 39 yeah she was [TS]

00:03:10   actually a little little person right to [TS]

00:03:12   what was she like when she like super [TS]

00:03:16   Dinklage was she she was a diminutive [TS]

00:03:18   woman but she wasn't she she did not [TS]

00:03:22   have a chromosomal smallest think the [TS]

00:03:24   term is spinner she was a just I don't I [TS]

00:03:28   do not think the term spinner she was [TS]

00:03:30   probably four foot eleven nice forefoot [TS]

00:03:34   that about [TS]

00:03:36   that's about half of your height yeah [TS]

00:03:38   yeah that's right well when you when you [TS]

00:03:41   when you consider that at the time i was [TS]

00:03:43   teasing my hair up pretty nu square [TS]

00:03:46   solution small he'll know [TS]

00:03:48   yeah no longer boots were all they're [TS]

00:03:50   all the rage sure [TS]

00:03:51   iight man i think that's super [TS]

00:03:53   interesting i don't derail you John but [TS]

00:03:55   i don't--there's the stuff that we put [TS]

00:03:56   on our desk to have people you know [TS]

00:03:58   essentially make comments about you know [TS]

00:04:00   it's like I feel this way about people [TS]

00:04:01   with big dogs and funny t-shirts like [TS]

00:04:04   when somebody's got a big dog or in San [TS]

00:04:05   Francisco as you know two or more of the [TS]

00:04:07   exact same large dog again are getting [TS]

00:04:10   popular conservative yes they are both [TS]

00:04:13   Belgian taverns is that ok with you [TS]

00:04:15   it's Nikita and another akita but he's [TS]

00:04:18   so mean and I 40 be so cynical and/or [TS]

00:04:23   got a lot of reasons to be angry just a [TS]

00:04:25   couple bubbling up to the surface like a [TS]

00:04:27   hot soup [TS]

00:04:28   excuse me I'm sorry is this your [TS]

00:04:30   crosswalk should i have had some kind of [TS]

00:04:32   a applied for at least two be here [TS]

00:04:34   someone or someone just just recently [TS]

00:04:37   tweeted us asking us to dsr show [TS]

00:04:40   yeah and I think you just gave them a [TS]

00:04:42   lifetime of [TS]

00:04:43   but the post-traumatic stress this is me [TS]

00:04:45   what are you and your you and your hate [TS]

00:04:50   will be able to see park here in the in [TS]

00:04:52   the crosswalk for the rest of the day [TS]

00:04:53   and i guess i'll just go walk into [TS]

00:04:55   traffic if that's okay with you [TS]

00:04:57   so you're feeling is that people with [TS]

00:04:58   two dogs are that they are they're going [TS]

00:05:01   to all the expense and trouble of caring [TS]

00:05:03   for and feeding and cleaning up the poop [TS]

00:05:05   of yes to charge giant dogs for the [TS]

00:05:08   sticks breast purpose of inspiring you [TS]

00:05:11   to ask them a question about them i [TS]

00:05:13   think we see the express purpose but [TS]

00:05:15   it's like having a unix joke on your [TS]

00:05:17   t-shirt where I guess the hope is that [TS]

00:05:20   somebody else has a unix person will [TS]

00:05:22   look at looking like a little head nod [TS]

00:05:24   or something right [TS]

00:05:25   but you know yes I may explain like you [TS]

00:05:27   know there's no place like 192 dot one [TS]

00:05:30   yes like what what iiiii counties I [TS]

00:05:33   crave a head nod from a unix person my [TS]

00:05:38   whole life I've never gotten ahead and [TS]

00:05:41   just say sue had not and so I you know [TS]

00:05:44   but no no but here's the thing is like [TS]

00:05:46   you know I got a kid we walk around we [TS]

00:05:48   like dogs and we don't we don't we don't [TS]

00:05:50   she knows how to approach a dog if the [TS]

00:05:52   owner says it's okay but will sometimes [TS]

00:05:53   say hey that's really cool you have [TS]

00:05:56   you've got a you've got a what's a giant [TS]

00:05:59   dog you've got a great thing and you've [TS]

00:06:01   got a shih tzu that's really fun [TS]

00:06:04   that's hilarious and look in here oh my [TS]

00:06:07   eyes you know you're already bored of [TS]

00:06:11   the hilarious it is that they did this [TS]

00:06:12   alert you think you shouldn't be [TS]

00:06:14   surprised that people are going to you [TS]

00:06:17   know it's like the like the dad says in [TS]

00:06:19   was sixteen Candles pretty pink sixteen [TS]

00:06:21   Candles he says you know if you put out [TS]

00:06:23   those signals people going to pick up on [TS]

00:06:25   that if you get a big dog in a tiny dog [TS]

00:06:27   people can ask you a picture [TS]

00:06:28   sorry Dean Stanton Harry Dean Stanton [TS]

00:06:30   was pretty in pink [TS]

00:06:32   yeah and so I don't know I'm just saying [TS]

00:06:34   if you got a picture yourself ice [TS]

00:06:35   skating on one leg in your 411 don't be [TS]

00:06:36   surprised if people want to make remarks [TS]

00:06:38   well c and the thing is sometimes I [TS]

00:06:40   worry that my entire house and really my [TS]

00:06:44   entire existence is just like trolling [TS]

00:06:49   for that kind of that for 4 i'm just [TS]

00:06:52   waiting for the question you know like [TS]

00:06:53   why else do you put framed [TS]

00:06:56   romanian train tickets on your [TS]

00:06:59   mantelpiece unless you want somebody to [TS]

00:07:03   say what are these and then the problem [TS]

00:07:06   is i do not roll my eyes [TS]

00:07:08   no nice guys don't even don't love [TS]

00:07:10   yourself in with those you are leap up [TS]

00:07:12   from the couch and bolts across the room [TS]

00:07:15   platter those you ask pull out the [TS]

00:07:17   telescoping pole pointer that you always [TS]

00:07:19   have in your waist cooked well the [TS]

00:07:22   lights all over slide know you you are I [TS]

00:07:27   mean that you've given me a tours of of [TS]

00:07:30   Seattle whether I wanted or not there [TS]

00:07:32   was very enthusiastic no I didn't want [TS]

00:07:33   them you're really good you're good at [TS]

00:07:35   explaining what this body of water means [TS]

00:07:36   and you like and you like people asking [TS]

00:07:38   about your train tickets and I think [TS]

00:07:39   that's exactly what it's there for [TS]

00:07:41   if i had a giant Marmaduke dog and then [TS]

00:07:44   a small purse dog i would i think i [TS]

00:07:47   would be aware that I was doing that for [TS]

00:07:50   a reason i was doing that to attract [TS]

00:07:51   attention [TS]

00:07:52   not because I just happen to like these [TS]

00:07:54   two specific breeds of dogs that [TS]

00:07:56   happened to be at the ends of the dog [TS]

00:07:59   scale right dog continuum but I mean it [TS]

00:08:03   seems like you at the very least would [TS]

00:08:05   get used to it and it's not like you [TS]

00:08:07   have like a horrible facial disfiguring [TS]

00:08:09   shin and you have to experience your [TS]

00:08:10   train accident or something but you know [TS]

00:08:12   the other one is as I said I think this [TS]

00:08:14   is this is the Venn diagram on this is [TS]

00:08:16   pretty perfect for people who wear [TS]

00:08:17   utility kilts because every person i've [TS]

00:08:19   ever met every man who wears a utilikilt [TS]

00:08:21   is also super into talking about his [TS]

00:08:24   utility kilt I met a man on a trail just [TS]

00:08:29   yesterday [TS]

00:08:31   no no I'm sorry day before I I want you [TS]

00:08:35   to really all the way back yet [TS]

00:08:36   I know it's hard to know where I am I [TS]

00:08:38   went down to the Nisqually River Delta [TS]

00:08:43   at sundown and i was walking along the [TS]

00:08:47   trail and I noticed some beaver some [TS]

00:08:51   actual real-life Bieber right off in [TS]

00:08:54   them in the water next to the trail and [TS]

00:08:56   I stopped to look at them i got a tail [TS]

00:08:58   slap for the for the for the privilege [TS]

00:09:01   of watching them leave [TS]

00:09:05   and then along the trail comes a guy in [TS]

00:09:09   a utilikilt with a large camera bag and [TS]

00:09:14   a fairly flourishing mustache check and [TS]

00:09:18   we and he stopped and he was the name is [TS]

00:09:20   Lee know it's like birds pretty isolated [TS]

00:09:22   out there [TS]

00:09:23   no she's just like dat vibram Toshi's [TS]

00:09:26   you know at 1.i when I look down and I [TS]

00:09:28   got to utility kilt my eyes went right [TS]

00:09:30   back up [TS]

00:09:31   I didn't go all the way to the shoes and [TS]

00:09:33   he stopped and we chatted and he said [TS]

00:09:36   they're closed you know this is one of [TS]

00:09:37   these this is one of these parks where [TS]

00:09:40   at sundown they closed and the threat is [TS]

00:09:43   that they're going to lock the gate and [TS]

00:09:45   lock you in [TS]

00:09:46   that's kind of a threat that they do at [TS]

00:09:49   some of the parks out here like sundown [TS]

00:09:52   gate is locked and then you have to call [TS]

00:09:55   and maybe they'll come [TS]

00:09:57   maybe so he's like I got we're getting [TS]

00:10:00   out of here because the gate is closing [TS]

00:10:02   I was like god damn it and we stopped [TS]

00:10:04   and looked at the Beavers and there was [TS]

00:10:06   just something he was emanating vibe [TS]

00:10:09   that was the equivalent of like if he [TS]

00:10:12   had a foam trucker hat on that said ask [TS]

00:10:15   me about my utility kilt and you know i [TS]

00:10:20   wanna die i think i wanted to [TS]

00:10:21   communicate to him that I was a [TS]

00:10:23   sophisticated guy I was from Seattle [TS]

00:10:25   Washington I didn't need it [TS]

00:10:26   I anything up there was to know about [TS]

00:10:28   utility kilt I already knew and and [TS]

00:10:31   we're okay with I was accepting of it in [TS]

00:10:34   the same way as I would be if he had a [TS]

00:10:36   facial disfigurement from a train [TS]

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00:12:00   not do it without trying to give him the [TS]

00:12:03   head not i'm trying to think of what [TS]

00:12:05   kind of train accident would produce [TS]

00:12:07   just a facial injury and making you yeah [TS]

00:12:12   it stops kind of fast and it's fancy [TS]

00:12:14   wine glass [TS]

00:12:15   oh IC IC I had a dream last night that I [TS]

00:12:18   was on an airplane like a small to [TS]

00:12:21   propeller Beechcraft Bonanza style [TS]

00:12:23   airplane with some friends and then [TS]

00:12:26   right on final approach [TS]

00:12:29   it's suddenly spun into a dive and [TS]

00:12:32   crashed into a lake and then I was [TS]

00:12:35   suddenly alone on the plane all of the [TS]

00:12:38   friends that I was there with before [TS]

00:12:41   were gone and I was struggling to get [TS]

00:12:43   out of this plane underwater how God [TS]

00:12:48   yeah I made it even find a lot oh my god [TS]

00:12:51   I didn't even I did not even make the [TS]

00:12:53   connection I know it's a little bit on [TS]

00:12:54   the nose it probably means something [TS]

00:12:56   about sex or your teeth or something you [TS]

00:12:58   know but that's a horrible and so did [TS]

00:13:02   you make it out [TS]

00:13:03   I didn't make it up I'm here to podcast [TS]

00:13:06   with you it's you it's not you it's like [TS]

00:13:09   a snake not a podcast Paula said my [TS]

00:13:13   creative creative [TS]

00:13:15   oh that's so funny you should say that i [TS]

00:13:17   was really rereading the the Playboy [TS]

00:13:19   interview with John his wife the other [TS]

00:13:22   day [TS]

00:13:22   oh yeah and what did you discover he's a [TS]

00:13:24   rascal [TS]

00:13:27   is he does not want to talk about his [TS]

00:13:28   dogs it is not want to talk about his [TS]

00:13:30   kilt and he definitely does not want to [TS]

00:13:32   talk about the Beatles know i watched an [TS]

00:13:34   interview uh like a interview that was [TS]

00:13:36   done by what a serbian television show [TS]

00:13:40   an interview of Sean lemon and after [TS]

00:13:46   like the 20th question about his dad she [TS]

00:13:51   kind of had a fit and had to like [TS]

00:13:57   collect himself and and we walk around [TS]

00:14:01   the block or whatever [TS]

00:14:02   really I mean I sound surprised but i'm [TS]

00:14:05   not i think i would be so I mean [TS]

00:14:07   anything even vaguely mention being like [TS]

00:14:09   what like geoff emerick or Neil Aspinall [TS]

00:14:11   like at some point you're like telling [TS]

00:14:13   your war stories but a certain point you [TS]

00:14:14   might be able to talk about what I've [TS]

00:14:15   done since the mid sixties yeah and so [TS]

00:14:18   this was you know Sean was on tour with [TS]

00:14:21   his band playing a show in in you know [TS]

00:14:26   somewhere in the Balkans and this TV [TS]

00:14:29   personality really wanted to interview [TS]

00:14:31   him and really wanted to know about his [TS]

00:14:34   dad and on the one hand you have I mean [TS]

00:14:38   that the one-on-one and I had a ton of [TS]

00:14:39   sympathy for him on the other hand it's [TS]

00:14:42   like it's like sean lennon was born with [TS]

00:14:49   a great day in one hand jab at the [TS]

00:14:52   jockeys are you gonna do in the other [TS]

00:14:54   and that's a little thing to talk about [TS]

00:14:58   yet though he's got a he's got he's got [TS]

00:15:01   basically got a facial deformity which [TS]

00:15:03   is that he let ya one of his arms is [TS]

00:15:07   john lennon and one of them is this your [TS]

00:15:09   friend like how do you first of all how [TS]

00:15:13   do you deal with the facial deformity [TS]

00:15:14   that's on your arms but not one arm [TS]

00:15:16   native and second of all like there's [TS]

00:15:19   just no like Geoff Emerick at least can [TS]

00:15:21   go into a bar and sit down and just be a [TS]

00:15:24   bloke who but that's a good point that's [TS]

00:15:27   a good point but Sean just you know like [TS]

00:15:29   Anna and I feel like he's probably spent [TS]

00:15:31   his whole life insulating himself i mean [TS]

00:15:33   i know for a fact he has on the Lower [TS]

00:15:35   East Side surrounded by like uber [TS]

00:15:38   hipster musicians who [TS]

00:15:40   just you knowlike play toy instruments [TS]

00:15:42   and and get do graffiti or whatever it [TS]

00:15:46   is that young people do it looks like [TS]

00:15:48   it's like this is we you must run into [TS]

00:15:49   this all the time in the circle moving [TS]

00:15:51   but there's the one kind of cool going [TS]

00:15:53   ok I know this I know this guy is really [TS]

00:15:54   famous but even cooler things like in [TS]

00:15:56   this guy is really famous but we never [TS]

00:15:58   talked about [TS]

00:15:58   yeah we never talked about it we would [TS]

00:16:00   never I mean I know people who play who [TS]

00:16:01   have played with a with sean lennon and [TS]

00:16:04   of course after you know after the [TS]

00:16:06   initial it's like going to a nude beach [TS]

00:16:08   like that after the first 15 minutes of [TS]

00:16:11   being on a nude beach year no longer [TS]

00:16:15   scandalized and after 30 minutes on a [TS]

00:16:19   nude beach you feel like oh why am I [TS]

00:16:24   wearing clothes [TS]

00:16:25   why did I come to the nude beach and [TS]

00:16:26   we're close now I feel like an idiot and [TS]

00:16:28   after 45 minutes on a nude beach or like [TS]

00:16:30   why why do any of us wear clothes ever [TS]

00:16:33   and paying out with somebody like sean [TS]

00:16:36   lennon it's exactly like that like that [TS]

00:16:38   after 15 minutes you're like oh why am I [TS]

00:16:41   wearing clothes but also like you know [TS]

00:16:43   it's rough because like even reading [TS]

00:16:46   this interview from 1980 and it's and [TS]

00:16:48   Playboy's and playboy and it's pretty [TS]

00:16:50   famous interview from around the time [TS]

00:16:52   double fantasy came out and and you know [TS]

00:16:54   the interviewers pretty dog in about [TS]

00:16:56   pursuing you know his further [TS]

00:16:58   questioning and one of course the [TS]

00:17:00   beatles keep coming up but he also calls [TS]

00:17:01   John on that whole thing of saying that [TS]

00:17:03   something lives if he thinks of sean as [TS]

00:17:06   his like first son is like the first and [TS]

00:17:09   i think you know like with so many [TS]

00:17:10   things John said I mean I you know he [TS]

00:17:13   he's he's provocative he talks [TS]

00:17:15   off-the-cuff and when you take it out of [TS]

00:17:16   context he sounds like a dick cause he's [TS]

00:17:18   kind of a dick but I think what he [TS]

00:17:19   partly meant was like that the whole [TS]

00:17:22   thing with Cynthia like that was not a [TS]

00:17:24   great relationship [TS]

00:17:25   this is the first time I feel like I've [TS]

00:17:26   got a kid that's mine from the beginning [TS]

00:17:28   and all the way through but he did he [TS]

00:17:31   said yeah well it does feel you know so [TS]

00:17:33   Shaun's gotta hold up the mantle of [TS]

00:17:35   being like when you will try it out by [TS]

00:17:37   Yoko in the working class hero shirt and [TS]

00:17:40   like he's gotta hold up the mantle of [TS]

00:17:42   talking about his father that everybody [TS]

00:17:44   loves and misses and that would suck [TS]

00:17:46   that would be so fun for like a week [TS]

00:17:48   when you're 14 [TS]

00:17:49   imagine being like 30 and still having [TS]

00:17:51   everywhere he goes people want to talk [TS]

00:17:52   about John Lennon [TS]

00:17:53   it would totally suck but the like for [TS]

00:17:58   instance when I was on tour in the [TS]

00:18:00   Balkans they're always asking you about [TS]

00:18:07   chocolate and this guy this reporter God [TS]

00:18:10   did not come out an interview me but you [TS]

00:18:14   know that the audience at a let's say a [TS]

00:18:16   julian lennon show at pianos in New York [TS]

00:18:21   or whatever on the Leander shine [TS]

00:18:23   I'm sorry Sean oh my god the real son [TS]

00:18:26   sorry the real son not that not the [TS]

00:18:28   imposter that looks just like him that [TS]

00:18:30   sounds just like him but the other one [TS]

00:18:32   if you go to a sean lennon show on the [TS]

00:18:35   lower east side [TS]

00:18:37   yeah that there's gonna be a certain [TS]

00:18:39   number of people there who are there the [TS]

00:18:41   just because it's sean lennon but [TS]

00:18:44   they're also gonna be a lot of people [TS]

00:18:45   there who want to hear his particular [TS]

00:18:47   brand of quirky weird indie pop you know [TS]

00:18:51   like he's gonna have legitimate fans of [TS]

00:18:53   his band because it's New York and there [TS]

00:18:57   are legitimate is not people for a fan [TS]

00:19:00   base for almost anything right [TS]

00:19:02   if you're consistent if you are playing [TS]

00:19:04   in if you're playing a show in Croatia [TS]

00:19:07   like when i played a show in Croatia and [TS]

00:19:10   a guy came up to me and wanted to talk [TS]

00:19:12   to me about Chris wala there was a part [TS]

00:19:15   of me that was like oh god so you're [TS]

00:19:17   just here because of your just here [TS]

00:19:19   because this is the closest that death [TS]

00:19:21   cab has come to Croatia recently right [TS]

00:19:25   but i was also grateful for him to be [TS]

00:19:29   there you know like grateful for anybody [TS]

00:19:31   that's that gets out of the house and [TS]

00:19:33   comes to see the show for for somebody [TS]

00:19:36   like Sean I'm sure there are some [TS]

00:19:39   croatian fans of his music but probably [TS]

00:19:41   about the same as there are croatian [TS]

00:19:43   fans of the long winters everybody else [TS]

00:19:46   there is in that weird Eastern European [TS]

00:19:49   like John Lennon Colt and I mean things [TS]

00:19:52   for the rest of his life unless he likes [TS]

00:19:53   a hooker on fire he's gonna be famous [TS]

00:19:55   for one thing right by an order of [TS]

00:19:57   magnitude and so the solution to his [TS]

00:19:59   problem is don't leave the lower east [TS]

00:20:01   side millions and millions of people [TS]

00:20:03   never go out from [TS]

00:20:05   where they never go for miles from where [TS]

00:20:07   they were born [TS]

00:20:08   just stay where no one ever stay in a [TS]

00:20:11   place where no one ever asks you about [TS]

00:20:12   your dad if it bothers you so much [TS]

00:20:14   anything beautiful pulls a Clapton and [TS]

00:20:16   as like a Dulaney Bonnie and friends [TS]

00:20:18   type thing he's still going to be [TS]

00:20:20   remembered oh that's the one which [TS]

00:20:20   online and son in it you know like [TS]

00:20:22   phantom planet people no phantom planet [TS]

00:20:24   because of the guy from Rushmore right [TS]

00:20:27   right [TS]

00:20:28   any of these are nice guy is he is he [TS]

00:20:30   really is that honestly true isn't that [TS]

00:20:32   side of it star fucker that's so cool [TS]

00:20:33   that jason schwartzman yeah he's he's [TS]

00:20:36   he's swell guy and his lady as well [TS]

00:20:38   they're very sweet people i'm very happy [TS]

00:20:40   to hear that I you know I don't normally [TS]

00:20:42   I don't normally get all well you know [TS]

00:20:45   waxing like sentimental or sweet about [TS]

00:20:49   certain celebs but there are there a [TS]

00:20:53   couple I've met that just make me go [TS]

00:20:55   into this kind of soft voice oh where I [TS]

00:20:59   just I just feel so soft and sweet and [TS]

00:21:04   one of them is jason schwartzman today's [TS]

00:21:06   he's very sweet [TS]

00:21:08   there's another one you can give you the [TS]

00:21:11   initials p.r Holly rare am bonus will [TS]

00:21:21   close very close [TS]

00:21:23   0080 the the woman from memory [TS]

00:21:28   no not pj harvey / paul robeson e so [TS]

00:21:33   close [TS]

00:21:35   PR makes me feel really soft so nice [TS]

00:21:40   such a nice person that he just can't [TS]

00:21:42   even believe that they're also a huge [TS]

00:21:44   star pam dawber know how is Pamela how I [TS]

00:21:49   was paul robeson close to Pamela dabur [TS]

00:21:52   that's Mike that's my question for you [TS]

00:21:56   you will really well apparently they [TS]

00:21:59   changed it analyst like it's not a real [TS]

00:22:01   hey it's gotta be [TS]

00:22:03   it's got its got a silent are this pam [TS]

00:22:07   rampa darbar oh it's steam when I don't [TS]

00:22:11   know who is it all rug [TS]

00:22:13   Oh Paul ride life that's so nice to hear [TS]

00:22:17   because I can second be real on the [TS]

00:22:18   bubble don't get some which way that [TS]

00:22:20   would go and i'm very happy to hear that [TS]

00:22:21   oh I just want to marry him he's such a [TS]

00:22:24   sweet person is he handsome in person [TS]

00:22:26   also handsome those eyes and a smile he [TS]

00:22:30   just ki very generous with the smile you [TS]

00:22:32   got an easy smile you smile and don't [TS]

00:22:35   you know and the thing about the thing [TS]

00:22:36   that you want jason schwartzman to be is [TS]

00:22:39   generous with the like insider funny [TS]

00:22:43   funny banter and like back and forth [TS]

00:22:45   over and he is [TS]

00:22:47   oh he's generous with the back and forth [TS]

00:22:50   in the same way that Paul Rudd is [TS]

00:22:52   generous with the like the the sweet [TS]

00:22:55   appreciative smile i think that takes [TS]

00:22:58   I'm gonna guess i'm going to speculate I [TS]

00:23:00   think that takes a lot of character [TS]

00:23:01   it takes a lot of character to get to [TS]

00:23:03   move beyond like oh you know you're the [TS]

00:23:05   guy from those movies tell me a book [TS]

00:23:08   summary story like what isn't he like [TS]

00:23:10   isn't he like the nephew of francis ford [TS]

00:23:12   coppola or something like that that's [TS]

00:23:14   right i mean that must be exhausting can [TS]

00:23:16   imagine the early days how exhausting [TS]

00:23:18   that would have been all the interviews [TS]

00:23:19   for I guess Rushmore was his first big [TS]

00:23:20   movie [TS]

00:23:21   well but you think about it he's also [TS]

00:23:23   one of these people who should validate [TS]

00:23:26   our our our theory about getting famous [TS]

00:23:29   young I mean he was famous as a very [TS]

00:23:31   young person writes some might even say [TS]

00:23:33   born into a royal family should be like [TS]

00:23:35   a quarry level of fucked up [TS]

00:23:37   yeah he should be terrible but instead [TS]

00:23:39   he's like happily married his wife is [TS]

00:23:41   the sweet person also i mean i don't [TS]

00:23:45   want to overstate the degree to which I [TS]

00:23:47   know these people but jason schwartzman [TS]

00:23:51   and I have met a handful of times at [TS]

00:23:54   that time you said jason jason [TS]

00:23:56   schwartzman I things that you're going [TS]

00:23:58   to notice you're going to notice you [TS]

00:24:00   can't help but notice when you meet [TS]

00:24:01   somebody like that like when I met Pete [TS]

00:24:02   Rose metros twice and both don't like [TS]

00:24:05   extremely strong impression i love those [TS]

00:24:07   strippers she's he's the one with the [TS]

00:24:11   daughter they ain't got no arm was the [TS]

00:24:15   remark [TS]

00:24:16   I'm saying that story I don't know if [TS]

00:24:17   I've heard that story when I was a kid [TS]

00:24:20   our upstairs neighbors were with this [TS]

00:24:24   like some are best friends and it was a [TS]

00:24:27   kid exactly my age and his younger [TS]

00:24:28   daughter and I think it might have been [TS]

00:24:30   at the little mite situation i see she [TS]

00:24:32   had a situation [TS]

00:24:33   yep and she was just a perfectly [TS]

00:24:35   adorable kid with like a really [TS]

00:24:36   problematic arm and at one point I was [TS]

00:24:39   at pietros restaurant as you do in [TS]

00:24:41   Cincinnati and mr. roses dining there [TS]

00:24:43   and moms that don't run over wait till [TS]

00:24:46   he's done eating [TS]

00:24:46   he's easy again now this is his big dog [TS]

00:24:48   right he's gonna sit down restaurant you [TS]

00:24:50   gotta expect not your kids to run up and [TS]

00:24:52   what knowledge that ran over you know he [TS]

00:24:55   was he's been famously not a super i [TS]

00:25:00   don't think i wouldn't call me an [TS]

00:25:01   intellectual ok alright i ran over like [TS]

00:25:04   heroes [TS]

00:25:05   yeah Charlie hustle and ask him to sign [TS]

00:25:07   something signed has an awesome [TS]

00:25:08   monograph sent by the way do you know [TS]

00:25:11   diddly diddly Dee he said he's a scout [TS]

00:25:14   for the Reds and so yeah I don't even [TS]

00:25:17   want the daughter that ain't got no arm [TS]

00:25:18   even as a kid you you had to kind of [TS]

00:25:25   walk away turn slowly and walk away [TS]

00:25:28   wondering with giant saucer eyes I slow [TS]

00:25:33   couple of the napkin away and say thank [TS]

00:25:36   you mr. and so one what what ain't got [TS]

00:25:38   no arm simpler times simpler players you [TS]

00:25:41   know and he would dive headfirst into a [TS]

00:25:44   lot of situations lately what I i was in [TS]

00:25:46   a restaurant i'm a steakhouse and [TS]

00:25:50   michael jordan was there and you could [TS]

00:25:53   feel the energy in the steakhouse even [TS]

00:25:57   the stakes were excited but it was steak [TS]

00:26:02   house and this was a this was a place [TS]

00:26:03   where everybody else in the in the place [TS]

00:26:06   was used to be in the big wheel the Big [TS]

00:26:08   Cheese where they are you know like this [TS]

00:26:12   expensive place these are these are guys [TS]

00:26:14   these are barrel-chested guys with the [TS]

00:26:16   like jewelry guys that wear jewelry [TS]

00:26:19   let's just say all that they were all [TS]

00:26:21   like the biggest frog in the pond they [TS]

00:26:23   were the desire in the Nathan Arizona [TS]

00:26:24   like largest seller of unpainted [TS]

00:26:26   furniture [TS]

00:26:27   that's right now and so it was a little [TS]

00:26:30   bit like like Sean ono lennon on the [TS]

00:26:33   Lower East Side michael jordan was there [TS]

00:26:35   everybody was excited and it's okay to [TS]

00:26:37   be excited about Michael Jordan no [TS]

00:26:40   matter who you are and yet if you're if [TS]

00:26:43   you're the only appear like the the the [TS]

00:26:47   articulated hose king or not there's [TS]

00:26:53   uncontested if you're not gonna run over [TS]

00:26:55   you know and like I put your napkin down [TS]

00:26:58   when it was really cool with my [TS]

00:27:00   articulated oats and and and Jordan is [TS]

00:27:04   wearing one of those uh one of those [TS]

00:27:06   suits that has too many buttons you know [TS]

00:27:08   what I mean like a neighborhood collar [TS]

00:27:09   jacket with like 14 bucks just [TS]

00:27:11   exaggerate its enormous height up he's [TS]

00:27:14   beautiful man and he is a he's just like [TS]

00:27:17   his poetry in motion and I'm in there [TS]

00:27:20   frankly to have a steak I i I'm you know [TS]

00:27:23   I'm gonna like sure i'm a fan of a [TS]

00:27:26   Michael Jordan in the in the general [TS]

00:27:27   sense as an institution [TS]

00:27:29   yeah I don't want anything from him but [TS]

00:27:32   it happens that we are i'm leaving the [TS]

00:27:34   steak restaurant at the same time that [TS]

00:27:36   michael jordan is and we are in the and [TS]

00:27:39   we walk out the door and we're in the [TS]

00:27:40   alcove we're basically in the elevator [TS]

00:27:43   together for a minute and he doesn't you [TS]

00:27:48   know it's a I'm just trying to get out [TS]

00:27:51   the door to he's just trying to get out [TS]

00:27:52   the door we don't have a we don't have [TS]

00:27:54   any kind of exchange but we walk out the [TS]

00:27:57   door together onto the sidewalk [TS]

00:27:59   it's 1130 at night and there's an [TS]

00:28:02   eight-year-old kid standing there with [TS]

00:28:04   holding a basketball up as far as i can [TS]

00:28:10   tell unchaperoned stand this [TS]

00:28:13   that's really hard to explain and I was [TS]

00:28:16   like I stopped and watched him you know [TS]

00:28:19   graciously a although what are you gonna [TS]

00:28:23   do in that situation my hand hurts you [TS]

00:28:26   know something his kids basketball and I [TS]

00:28:28   and I just can't stop looking around [TS]

00:28:31   like where did this kid come from [TS]

00:28:34   I'm in the middle of the city eleven [TS]

00:28:36   o'clock at night how do where do you get [TS]

00:28:39   a basketball [TS]

00:28:40   and know that Michael Jordan's walking [TS]

00:28:42   out of a steakhouse know that michael [TS]

00:28:43   jordan is in this place doesn't add up [TS]

00:28:45   and who got who brought him here who's [TS]

00:28:47   waiting around the corner like it and [TS]

00:28:50   and Jordan signs the ball his entourage [TS]

00:28:52   all you know hardy hardy har they all [TS]

00:28:55   walked down the street and I'm just [TS]

00:28:57   standing there looking at this kid and [TS]

00:28:58   you know the kid kind of trails along [TS]

00:29:01   behind them just trying to be in [TS]

00:29:02   Jordan's orbit and you know i kinda I [TS]

00:29:06   had places to be I went the other [TS]

00:29:08   direction [TS]

00:29:09   I never I never did determine out where [TS]

00:29:12   you know like how this kid fell from the [TS]

00:29:14   sky holding a basketball in downtown [TS]

00:29:17   seattle in the middle of the night [TS]

00:29:19   thats dark at starpower I'm gonna go [TS]

00:29:22   with somebody who works in the kitchen [TS]

00:29:25   called their sister who was watching him [TS]

00:29:29   and said haul butt over here and bring a [TS]

00:29:32   basketball and then stay in the car till [TS]

00:29:36   eleven-thirty right as daughter is here [TS]

00:29:39   he's ready to sign stuff i adjure I bet [TS]

00:29:42   it was his sister sister-in-law and she [TS]

00:29:45   was waiting in the car cause she didn't [TS]

00:29:46   care and the kid get jumps out that's it [TS]

00:29:49   you know that's that isn't an answer to [TS]

00:29:51   that problem that would never occur to [TS]

00:29:53   me it's nice it's nice to see and you [TS]

00:29:56   know and dad doesn't catch off second [TS]

00:29:59   article so I'm son how this happened [TS]

00:30:02   i've been playing the beatles for my [TS]

00:30:04   daughter you know forever hoping you [TS]

00:30:06   know that it'll catch on to take ya i [TS]

00:30:08   dont want to i'm not a pill about that [TS]

00:30:10   many things like there's a certain [TS]

00:30:11   common she doesn't like don't really [TS]

00:30:12   we're gonna make a big deal about that [TS]

00:30:13   but like actually I've been reading The [TS]

00:30:16   Watchmen to my daughter hoping that [TS]

00:30:17   that's terrific if she really connecting [TS]

00:30:20   with silk spectre to really I feel like [TS]

00:30:23   I feel like a Rorschach is her skirts [TS]

00:30:27   and roll brush it's great he's the best [TS]

00:30:30   on anyway so you're playing the beatles [TS]

00:30:32   for your daughter you know doing that [TS]

00:30:33   forever and like in fact there's certain [TS]

00:30:35   kind of certain records that would like [TS]

00:30:37   going to rotation for certain events [TS]

00:30:39   like you know for what we graduated from [TS]

00:30:41   toy story 2 always listening to that [TS]

00:30:44   Queen like best queen album went to pick [TS]

00:30:46   her up from school to where she get like [TS]

00:30:48   saying you know somebody to love which [TS]

00:30:49   practically made me cry was so great but [TS]

00:30:51   then we got into aside one of [TS]

00:30:54   the white album we listened to a lot so [TS]

00:30:55   she's she knows the beatles a little bit [TS]

00:30:57   i was looking at a hard day's night was [TS]

00:31:01   after bath time was not official TV time [TS]

00:31:02   I wish I shouldn't have the TV on it was [TS]

00:31:05   a you know an attractive nuisance and [TS]

00:31:07   she came out and she started watching a [TS]

00:31:08   hard day's night and she thought it was [TS]

00:31:09   a riot understand this is a kid his [TS]

00:31:12   favorite movie right now is duck soup so [TS]

00:31:13   she she loves she thought was hilarious [TS]

00:31:15   and and so you can tell she's really [TS]

00:31:18   into it because when there's a line [TS]

00:31:20   whether she understands the line or not [TS]

00:31:21   she'll turn to me with a giant grin and [TS]

00:31:23   repeat the line to me he says the craft [TS]

00:31:25   was very clean is a very clean and and [TS]

00:31:28   but she loved it and so I I and this was [TS]

00:31:30   concomitant with me going back and [TS]

00:31:32   rewatching the anthology videos I've [TS]

00:31:35   been watching hours and hours and hours [TS]

00:31:36   of the nineties anthology videos which [TS]

00:31:38   are you a hundred percent Beatles [TS]

00:31:40   approved and everything [TS]

00:31:41   yeah but still just going back and [TS]

00:31:43   watching [TS]

00:31:44   mmm somewhere between the second and [TS]

00:31:46   fourth episodes when Beatlemania really [TS]

00:31:49   kicks in the oven but last night we were [TS]

00:31:51   watching these together and i was [TS]

00:31:53   showing her the circa 6450 boy 64 [TS]

00:31:56   arriving in America and I was like sure [TS]

00:31:59   like showing them at Shea Stadium when [TS]

00:32:01   they couldn't they didn't have been a [TS]

00:32:03   monitors that George Martin points out [TS]

00:32:04   that monitors wrinkle could hear was no [TS]

00:32:06   because you're anything there folks [TS]

00:32:07   would bounce back and like a second and [TS]

00:32:09   a half [TS]

00:32:10   can you imagine you're sitting there [TS]

00:32:11   every night there's people running at [TS]

00:32:13   you you have police literally protecting [TS]

00:32:16   people from running at you and you have [TS]

00:32:17   no idea what they want [TS]

00:32:19   I mean I and i said to my daughter like [TS]

00:32:20   what do you think of that she's like why [TS]

00:32:22   they had to put up a fence that's crazy [TS]

00:32:24   everybody's running around like I said [TS]

00:32:25   you know to permit wife is like to me [TS]

00:32:27   that would be really fun for about an [TS]

00:32:29   hour and now you about all that i would [TS]

00:32:32   need of that to be to wear like you [TS]

00:32:34   can't even like going to a hotel hallway [TS]

00:32:36   let alone the lobby let alone a [TS]

00:32:38   steakhouse your life is just going to [TS]

00:32:40   make me really [TS]

00:32:41   rewatching I mean I know I know this but [TS]

00:32:43   it really makes me really appreciate [TS]

00:32:44   somebody who is a smartass and slightly [TS]

00:32:47   depressed person like John like [TS]

00:32:50   appreciating like what life must have [TS]

00:32:51   turned into for those guys it's been [TS]

00:32:53   obvious you know fifty-year-old point [TS]

00:32:55   but it's bananas to see how crazy it [TS]

00:32:57   really was and how their lives are [TS]

00:32:58   completely turned upside down by it [TS]

00:33:00   do you remember the first time you saw a [TS]

00:33:03   hard day's night [TS]

00:33:04   I feel I don't remember specifically i [TS]

00:33:07   feel like i might have seen it in [TS]

00:33:09   college we have much a laser discs at [TS]

00:33:10   our media center and i think i might [TS]

00:33:12   have watched it there but i think i saw [TS]

00:33:14   it before in my twenties very I you know [TS]

00:33:17   early on in the like go rent a VHS tape [TS]

00:33:20   and a VHS rental place which would have [TS]

00:33:25   been in high school like video rental [TS]

00:33:30   stores didn't blow up until much later [TS]

00:33:33   but there was one in Anchorage early on [TS]

00:33:37   in high school for me and one day of [TS]

00:33:39   eating roll and a hard day's night [TS]

00:33:42   eating raoul my dinner with Andre was [TS]

00:33:47   frequently available and yeah right and [TS]

00:33:49   and uh no no there there was a store and [TS]

00:33:52   we definitely went to it because i [TS]

00:33:54   remember they my friend sent me to get a [TS]

00:33:56   movie one time and I brought back [TS]

00:33:59   um what's the one about the the morbid [TS]

00:34:05   death-obsessed kid and his [TS]

00:34:07   eight-year-old girl friend helped mod [TS]

00:34:08   right I brought back Harold and Maude [TS]

00:34:10   and all my friends were like excited to [TS]

00:34:13   curl up on the couch together and drink [TS]

00:34:16   a couple of Stroh's much robots push it [TS]

00:34:19   to hell yea writer or that was even [TS]

00:34:21   before robots blowing shit up but you [TS]

00:34:23   know they wanted to watch of those [TS]

00:34:25   leaves until of Caddyshack er yeah [TS]

00:34:28   Porky's and I I brought back Harold and [TS]

00:34:31   Maude and then and half the people fell [TS]

00:34:34   asleep and the other half just stayed [TS]

00:34:36   awake out of pure fury at me and I was [TS]

00:34:42   like this movie is amazing and I was [TS]

00:34:44   like I was banned forever but well at [TS]

00:34:46   one of those little parties probably [TS]

00:34:48   night their 10th grade we watched a hard [TS]

00:34:51   day's night and I was already a Beatles [TS]

00:34:54   fan but you know the the the excitement [TS]

00:34:59   that is captured in that movie the charm [TS]

00:35:02   of those guys and the and the fact as [TS]

00:35:05   you're saying that that they were they [TS]

00:35:07   were having a completely unprecedented [TS]

00:35:09   experienced unprecedented in human [TS]

00:35:12   history except maybe but maybe maybe [TS]

00:35:15   Napoleon [TS]

00:35:17   had a similar people like God what like [TS]

00:35:20   Rudy Vallee and Frank Sinatra had had it [TS]

00:35:22   but you know not unlike that [TS]

00:35:24   international level that they were right [TS]

00:35:26   and I mean those guys would like walk [TS]

00:35:27   out the stage door of the paramount [TS]

00:35:29   theatre on you know Broadway in 40 [TS]

00:35:33   seconds and there would be a UH a mob of [TS]

00:35:35   girls let's say even a thousand girls [TS]

00:35:38   but every women i'm showing us and this [TS]

00:35:41   is going to get them bees right when i [TS]

00:35:42   got those the Queen gave them their [TS]

00:35:44   words and their I i I'm sitting there [TS]

00:35:46   and watching teenage girls literally [TS]

00:35:48   climbing over the 20-foot gates at [TS]

00:35:51   Buckingham Palace imagine if you did [TS]

00:35:52   that today it's called you lately [TS]

00:35:55   completely bananas not the bodies loser [TS]

00:35:57   is thrown exactly but you know there may [TS]

00:36:00   be a reason Merlin that we talk so much [TS]

00:36:03   about the Beatles and Hitler on this [TS]

00:36:05   program i'm listening because in that in [TS]

00:36:10   our in our formative years the to the [TS]

00:36:14   that they are the two modern figures the [TS]

00:36:19   beatles being one of a piece right the [TS]

00:36:23   two modern figures that have generated [TS]

00:36:25   that amount of mass adulation like the [TS]

00:36:32   Beatles those crowd scenes and and [TS]

00:36:35   people freaking out about the Beatles [TS]

00:36:36   and then the the you know the Nuremberg [TS]

00:36:39   rallies and the torchlight rallies like [TS]

00:36:42   they are of a family and they don't have [TS]

00:36:47   there's there's no third equivalent [TS]

00:36:50   right Stalin and Mao had cult of [TS]

00:36:54   personality but they didn't have [TS]

00:36:56   rapturous followers [TS]

00:36:59   yeah when you see people like a in the [TS]

00:37:01   early days and again this before the man [TS]

00:37:03   you the total manufacture of these kinds [TS]

00:37:05   of scenes you just see those women in [TS]

00:37:08   durndle is like leaning out like with [TS]

00:37:10   flowers looking like they were losing [TS]

00:37:12   their mind like he was a rock star star [TS]

00:37:15   so so but what's so amazing about a hard [TS]

00:37:18   day's night is every subsequent movie [TS]

00:37:21   like concert movie [TS]

00:37:23   rock rock band movie about a young [TS]

00:37:27   musician getting famous [TS]

00:37:30   it is taking place in a post hard day's [TS]

00:37:36   night world right [TS]

00:37:38   every subsequent person to get massively [TS]

00:37:40   famous knows that the beatles have done [TS]

00:37:43   this already and every everywhere they [TS]

00:37:45   go people are saying you're as big as [TS]

00:37:47   the Beatles and everybody knows that [TS]

00:37:49   that's a lie right like like to be [TS]

00:37:52   compared to the beatles is the highest [TS]

00:37:54   compliment you can pay to somebody who's [TS]

00:37:56   people never replace the beatles in [TS]

00:37:58   terms of those comparisons [TS]

00:38:00   yeah nobody ever said they sold more [TS]

00:38:01   records and listen Slim Whitman combined [TS]

00:38:03   yeah nobody know there's no new [TS]

00:38:06   equivalent and I wonder how long in [TS]

00:38:08   human history there will be how long it [TS]

00:38:11   will take before there is before that [TS]

00:38:13   resets and there's no institutional [TS]

00:38:16   memory of the beatles right and it and [TS]

00:38:18   there's a new person who becomes the [TS]

00:38:20   person is bigger than Jesus but but but [TS]

00:38:24   what's incredible about that about a [TS]

00:38:26   hard day's night for me is that all of [TS]

00:38:28   that is going on and they they have a [TS]

00:38:34   kind of smug confidence but they also [TS]

00:38:37   are so so charming and self-effacing and [TS]

00:38:42   small still you know what I mean like [TS]

00:38:44   yeah like they are still teasing Ringo [TS]

00:38:47   and Ringo could still could still [TS]

00:38:50   honestly be kind of the lonely one or [TS]

00:38:54   whatever you know like I don't know if [TS]

00:38:58   there's something about it that that I [TS]

00:39:00   think about every rock documentary I've [TS]

00:39:03   seen since then and the and everybody is [TS]

00:39:06   so knowing now and so self-aware and so [TS]

00:39:10   the smugness over takes up all the you [TS]

00:39:17   know that overshadows the charm that got [TS]

00:39:20   them there right and it should have been [TS]

00:39:23   anywhere near as successful as a piece [TS]

00:39:26   of art as it is I'm because it's pretty [TS]

00:39:28   it's really i think it's a very bold [TS]

00:39:30   movie even to this day it's so fresh and [TS]

00:39:33   the grandfather is so perfect it's just [TS]

00:39:36   his expressions in that movie the [TS]

00:39:38   goddamn funny i hate the ending of [TS]

00:39:40   artist night wasn't it happened exactly [TS]

00:39:43   nobody even knows it ends with the [TS]

00:39:44   helicopter flying off and they and [TS]

00:39:47   they're throwing out the fake signed [TS]

00:39:50   photographs uh [TS]

00:39:52   aspen all is throwing the weekend at the [TS]

00:39:55   beach parties like you think about any [TS]

00:39:57   of the rock-and-roll movies before that [TS]

00:39:58   and they were closer what I would think [TS]

00:39:59   of as a review the kind of things you [TS]

00:40:01   see on broadway in the twenties and [TS]

00:40:04   thirties a collection of songs you know [TS]

00:40:06   being performed with only the loosest [TS]

00:40:08   narrative involved right and in this I [TS]

00:40:12   mean is so great that they're able to [TS]

00:40:13   capitalize on the image of the beatles [TS]

00:40:16   as being popular without it being stupid [TS]

00:40:18   and without being smug for the most part [TS]

00:40:20   and so fresh it didn't hurt also that [TS]

00:40:22   the songs are pretty great [TS]

00:40:23   yeah the songs are all right and they're [TS]

00:40:24   all so cute but but it makes me it makes [TS]

00:40:27   me think I was having a conversation [TS]

00:40:30   with a good friend of ours the other day [TS]

00:40:32   and I was I was kind of reducing my [TS]

00:40:38   theory of performance Feynman [TS]

00:40:42   performance to kind of binary code as we [TS]

00:40:45   like to do two kinds of people in this [TS]

00:40:47   world that ends well [TS]

00:40:48   winners losers to come two kinds of [TS]

00:40:52   people in this world here's the thing [TS]

00:40:53   about staying living dying [TS]

00:40:55   mhm um together trouble in this world [TS]

00:40:58   star uh and and what I kind of realized [TS]

00:41:05   was that most of most of the performers [TS]

00:41:08   I know can be their motivation can be [TS]

00:41:12   described either as being primarily in [TS]

00:41:17   order to have people love them [TS]

00:41:19   right like we all know a lot of [TS]

00:41:21   performers who who want love like a [TS]

00:41:26   validation based location but wait wait [TS]

00:41:29   there that that that's the what I would [TS]

00:41:31   describe that as the other ok so to be [TS]

00:41:34   loved is a kind of pure experience in [TS]

00:41:38   and of itself that doesn't it isn't it [TS]

00:41:43   doesn't have a up a further motivation [TS]

00:41:47   beyond just like the feeling of that [TS]

00:41:49   wall of a door [TS]

00:41:51   nation so somebody knows who you are and [TS]

00:41:53   they like what you do and they like you [TS]

00:41:55   and they're like yeah right they are [TS]

00:41:57   projecting like on you and you are [TS]

00:42:01   experiencing that like and that feeling [TS]

00:42:03   is so positive that it you know becomes [TS]

00:42:07   a kind of addiction you don't want to [TS]

00:42:09   get off the stage you'll go up on any [TS]

00:42:13   stage because it gives you an [TS]

00:42:16   opportunity to have exposure to that [TS]

00:42:19   like right and i would put Paul [TS]

00:42:22   McCartney in that category [TS]

00:42:25   Paul has an uncomplicated relationship [TS]

00:42:28   with stardom he likes it he wants to be [TS]

00:42:32   liked and she he knows he's likeable and [TS]

00:42:39   then the other motivation is to be 100 [TS]

00:42:45   other way I described it the other day [TS]

00:42:46   was to be proved right to order to be [TS]

00:42:50   validated right and if you think if you [TS]

00:42:54   think about just sitting there blindly [TS]

00:42:55   speculating which when you look well i [TS]

00:42:58   think i'm absolutely somebody who wants [TS]

00:43:01   to be vindicated and i think john lennon [TS]

00:43:06   was also somebody who wanted to be [TS]

00:43:08   vindicated he wanted to be proved right [TS]

00:43:10   and all the adulation was in the in the [TS]

00:43:16   service of a of a secondary goal he you [TS]

00:43:19   know like sure he liked feeling the love [TS]

00:43:23   but but more importantly he wanted to be [TS]

00:43:25   proved right and you know sadly that was [TS]

00:43:32   also Hitler's motivation he wanted to be [TS]

00:43:35   he wanted to be proved right [TS]

00:43:37   more than you want to call childhood no [TS]

00:43:40   strong father figure loves to paint [TS]

00:43:43   through and when you think about it [TS]

00:43:46   online when you think about like like I [TS]

00:43:49   think Ringo probably just wanted to be [TS]

00:43:51   loved and I think George Harrison wanted [TS]

00:43:54   to be vindicated [TS]

00:43:56   and if you go and look at every sort of [TS]

00:43:59   famous person and the way they carry [TS]

00:44:01   themselves on the way they handle their [TS]

00:44:03   fame you can see this pretty clear i [TS]

00:44:07   should people shade one way or the other [TS]

00:44:10   do they want to be loved first and you [TS]

00:44:13   know or do they do they have something [TS]

00:44:15   to prove do they want to be they want to [TS]

00:44:19   be proved right [TS]

00:44:21   and the sad thing is both things seem [TS]

00:44:26   bottomless right you can always be loved [TS]

00:44:28   more and you can never actually fully be [TS]

00:44:31   proved right [TS]

00:44:32   ya na that you there's no way to ever [TS]

00:44:35   get enough of that I think Paul I'm sure [TS]

00:44:37   was trying for everybody but Pauline [TS]

00:44:39   says much that he was the one who was [TS]

00:44:40   still having a pretty good time throw [TS]

00:44:42   through a lot of that you know Ringo is [TS]

00:44:44   it was frustrating Ringo because when [TS]

00:44:45   he's playing live you couldn't hear it [TS]

00:44:46   was doing he felt like he wasn't getting [TS]

00:44:48   better as a musician but you know you're [TS]

00:44:51   right there on the one hand you and in [TS]

00:44:52   your model in the foot what he called [TS]

00:44:56   the first one to be loved to be loved vs [TS]

00:44:57   to be vindicated now to be loved is it [TS]

00:45:01   almost it's not hard but it doesn't [TS]

00:45:03   require a lot of sophistication from the [TS]

00:45:05   person who's loving you like having one [TS]

00:45:07   more person who loves you versus the [TS]

00:45:09   number that you had yesterday is a win [TS]

00:45:11   but with indication there's always [TS]

00:45:13   somebody you wish had to admit they were [TS]

00:45:16   wrong and apologize for what happened [TS]

00:45:17   before so you know it's it did that [TS]

00:45:20   again there's no there's no limit to [TS]

00:45:22   that as well but think about like with [TS]

00:45:24   with John I mean there's that period in [TS]

00:45:26   like nineteen sixty and pretty as much [TS]

00:45:30   as good as their records were they had a [TS]

00:45:31   rough patch for a couple years for a lot [TS]

00:45:33   of reasons i might accident realize how [TS]

00:45:35   big the jesus from marc was like what a [TS]

00:45:37   big deal that was and how taken out of [TS]

00:45:38   context it wasn't now it's all this but [TS]

00:45:40   that but that was a rough patch for them [TS]

00:45:43   and jon was unhappy card is fat Elvis [TS]

00:45:45   phase where he was depressed and felt [TS]

00:45:47   like he was a fact I nobody love him but [TS]

00:45:50   but you know even at the point where now [TS]

00:45:51   you got all the love that you could want [TS]

00:45:53   and then you just got to keep doing what [TS]

00:45:55   you're doing to keep being loved [TS]

00:45:57   but with the vindication like what if [TS]

00:45:59   there's a certain cutoff point where it [TS]

00:46:00   just turns to a certain kind of [TS]

00:46:01   bitterness because the amount of [TS]

00:46:03   indication that can make it worthwhile [TS]

00:46:05   especially if you're basically cynical [TS]

00:46:06   person like I think he was you could see [TS]

00:46:08   that in his [TS]

00:46:09   relationship to Dylan right because [TS]

00:46:11   Dylan like who could the beatles [TS]

00:46:15   possibly NVDA and be Dylan because Dylan [TS]

00:46:17   was vindicated more than loved [TS]

00:46:21   and there's that there and so as a [TS]

00:46:23   result of this like some artists wanna [TS]

00:46:25   be loved someone to be vindicated [TS]

00:46:27   there's also two kinds of fame and Dylan [TS]

00:46:31   had had the best cotton in my estimation [TS]

00:46:35   and I think in a lot of our estimations [TS]

00:46:36   the better kind of Fame which was the [TS]

00:46:40   fit the vindication fame right all the [TS]

00:46:43   critics loved him he set a new bar he [TS]

00:46:46   was the voice of a generation he was [TS]

00:46:48   meaning full and after a certain time [TS]

00:46:51   you no longer have to have an argument [TS]

00:46:53   about whether Bob Dylan was one of the [TS]

00:46:55   most important artists of the time [TS]

00:46:56   that's the indication is when you can [TS]

00:46:58   say well I don't like the Beatles but [TS]

00:47:00   i'm not going to dispute their sales [TS]

00:47:02   numbers and the critically acclaimed we [TS]

00:47:03   that's dedication right at a certain [TS]

00:47:05   point is that you [TS]

00:47:07   nobody there really dispute what you've [TS]

00:47:09   what you've managed to accomplish [TS]

00:47:11   yeah and so lemon lemon perceived [TS]

00:47:14   himself to be sort of in second place to [TS]

00:47:19   Dylan as the voice of the truth right [TS]

00:47:24   the hard-edged voice of the truth he [TS]

00:47:27   didn't see himself as I think probably [TS]

00:47:29   within the beatles he was he was more [TS]

00:47:32   and more resentful of Paul's effortless [TS]

00:47:36   songwriting but but the way that that [TS]

00:47:39   resentment took shape was that he [TS]

00:47:42   thought Paul was a was an intellectual [TS]

00:47:43   lightweight and he was comparing Paul [TS]

00:47:47   not to himself but to Dylan in terms of [TS]

00:47:51   like who [TS]

00:47:54   what what you know like remember what [TS]

00:47:56   days when they saw when they saw him and [TS]

00:47:58   when they saw Dylan royal albert hall [TS]

00:47:59   and you could hear a pin drop [TS]

00:48:02   and they were like thinking of their own [TS]

00:48:05   careers where they couldn't even hear [TS]

00:48:06   themselves play and the idea that an [TS]

00:48:09   audience would go and sit in reverently [TS]

00:48:12   like that was such a was such a contrast [TS]

00:48:16   and and to somebody who wants [TS]

00:48:19   vindication [TS]

00:48:21   who wants to be proved right [TS]

00:48:24   that must have been the hardest thing [TS]

00:48:26   for Lennon to to watch you know and and [TS]

00:48:31   strangely like I mean Dylan Dylan won [TS]

00:48:35   the the vindication lottery and what did [TS]

00:48:39   it do to that man you know it turned him [TS]

00:48:42   into really a troll that lives under a [TS]

00:48:45   bridge [TS]

00:48:46   yes it's a like like people I guess [TS]

00:48:48   kinda like lou reed or like it sometimes [TS]

00:48:49   John land became this contest of like [TS]

00:48:51   you think you you think you can love [TS]

00:48:53   that impossible thing well let me make [TS]

00:48:55   this next impossible thing it will be [TS]

00:48:57   impossible for you to love self-portrait [TS]

00:48:59   here you're welcome up [TS]

00:49:02   yeah mm I I feel like I wish there was a [TS]

00:49:11   third way i'm tired of wanting to be [TS]

00:49:15   vindicated [TS]

00:49:16   yeah is are you really well somebody [TS]

00:49:18   asked me the day like who are the people [TS]

00:49:20   that you want to [TS]

00:49:24   who are the people you want to be proved [TS]

00:49:26   right to and I you know I was thinking [TS]

00:49:29   about where i work with the generation [TS]

00:49:32   of it was that the Genesis and it was [TS]

00:49:36   all it's all back in school and the [TS]

00:49:38   coursework that you know the teachers [TS]

00:49:41   and the guidance counselor's that means [TS]

00:49:43   on the whiteout on your jean jacket yet [TS]

00:49:45   nobody got me and they punished me and [TS]

00:49:52   I'm like you know a lot of those people [TS]

00:49:53   are dead now [TS]

00:49:55   uh who am i I'm just I'm just trying to [TS]

00:49:59   prove i'm trying to be proved right to [TS]

00:50:02   some proxy of them some some big doctors [TS]

00:50:06   an avatar of a bully [TS]

00:50:07   yeah the teachers the school's the [TS]

00:50:11   government and the people ultimately you [TS]

00:50:17   know the conventional wisdom and what [TS]

00:50:22   yeah I can i it's an unreachable goal [TS]

00:50:24   i'll never be I will if that is my [TS]

00:50:27   standard of achievement [TS]

00:50:31   that that I I cannot rest or feel like [TS]

00:50:35   I've done a good job in life unless i [TS]

00:50:37   have rewritten history and they model [TS]

00:50:41   the schools on me [TS]

00:50:43   the to the chances and and then when if [TS]

00:50:48   that does happen when you don't get it [TS]

00:50:50   you might say the portraits unflattering [TS]

00:50:52   yeah i'll just be like no getting [TS]

00:50:54   worried i suppose but there's so much [TS]

00:50:56   more I could have done you know like [TS]

00:50:58   that I I don't feel like that is a [TS]

00:51:00   winning strategy for a short-term or [TS]

00:51:05   long-term happiness to want to show them [TS]

00:51:12   as it's a big the vindication hole is is [TS]

00:51:14   a big thing to fill in just the love [TS]

00:51:16   hole but you know I got a theory on this [TS]

00:51:18   i'm not a successful person but like if [TS]

00:51:20   I were I think what I would want in life [TS]

00:51:22   is this this is not what it sounds like [TS]

00:51:25   I'm not saying do what you love i'm not [TS]

00:51:27   saying quit your job nothing any of that [TS]

00:51:28   shit [TS]

00:51:28   what I'm saying is like to me a certain [TS]

00:51:30   measure of success has to involve two [TS]

00:51:32   things that your life becomes 3 your [TS]

00:51:35   life becomes last rather than more [TS]

00:51:36   complex and you like the way you spend [TS]

00:51:39   your day so to me like in that doesn't [TS]

00:51:41   mean you don't do things you don't like [TS]

00:51:42   it means if you're a filmmaker and you [TS]

00:51:44   think you have to love your job will get [TS]

00:51:45   ready [TS]

00:51:46   you got to deal with this key grip over [TS]

00:51:47   here and then this is what we got for [TS]

00:51:49   daylight left and this is what the [TS]

00:51:50   budget is for mustaches or whatever it [TS]

00:51:52   is but i would say you know the not just [TS]

00:51:56   once more people talk about do you like [TS]

00:51:57   what you do [TS]

00:51:58   well i think you know one marker is do [TS]

00:52:00   you like how you spend your day and if [TS]

00:52:02   you like spending your day making this [TS]

00:52:04   kind of music and then promoting it and [TS]

00:52:06   getting on Twitter or whatever or going [TS]

00:52:08   out and performing that music or dealing [TS]

00:52:10   with revisions to the liner notes and [TS]

00:52:11   all that kind of stuff to me that's a [TS]

00:52:13   certain kind of success that's much more [TS]

00:52:14   in returning then like how other people [TS]

00:52:16   reacted to it and if you can get the [TS]

00:52:19   vindication and the love out of doing [TS]

00:52:21   something like Jerry Lewis the [TS]

00:52:23   vindication love of what is that you're [TS]

00:52:25   making that's a good thing but like [TS]

00:52:27   there are a lot of people out there who [TS]

00:52:29   who are getting constantly more hugely [TS]

00:52:31   Reeve indicated all the time but this I [TS]

00:52:33   think they still kind of hate the way [TS]

00:52:34   they spend their day and they become [TS]

00:52:36   better people [TS]

00:52:37   I would like if there was just a tube [TS]

00:52:39   inserted into my stomach [TS]

00:52:41   that allowed me to sit and eat a [TS]

00:52:43   continuous stream of single peanut [TS]

00:52:46   Eminem's and yet they would just then go [TS]

00:52:49   out I could I could eat them and crunch [TS]

00:52:54   them [TS]

00:52:54   yeah and taste them and feel them go [TS]

00:52:57   down right but then they would just keep [TS]

00:53:00   going out you need to guess like a [TS]

00:53:01   selective like ostomy back you need [TS]

00:53:05   something that can look for bioavailable [TS]

00:53:07   single item in pieces and know what to [TS]

00:53:10   sort out leave the water you know [TS]

00:53:12   Lucille and I guess the question that i [TS]

00:53:14   have is what use in a kind of super [TS]

00:53:17   train context if I was producing a very [TS]

00:53:20   small stream of masticated not chocolate [TS]

00:53:25   candy tastes like predigested but post [TS]

00:53:31   salivated post Jude like what is that [TS]

00:53:37   paste worth right depending on what you [TS]

00:53:41   see find for it's obviously probably be [TS]

00:53:42   a great lubricant right you got it baby [TS]

00:53:45   was a good spackle or like a bit cold [TS]

00:53:48   weather climates sure enough that be [TS]

00:53:49   brittle don't know what the [TS]

00:53:50   superformance qualities are but you [TS]

00:53:52   could also turn into something that you [TS]

00:53:54   give to children who don't know where [TS]

00:53:56   it's been [TS]

00:53:56   my kids are pretty cool about a lot of [TS]

00:53:59   different kinds of foods as long as they [TS]

00:54:01   don't know much about it [TS]

00:54:02   let's see let's say so it becomes a kind [TS]

00:54:04   of almond paste or like peanut butter [TS]

00:54:06   almost like it's almost nutella wait a [TS]

00:54:08   minute who is that what Nutella is a boy [TS]

00:54:13   sure looks like it has anybody ever seen [TS]

00:54:15   nutella being made now you can play any [TS]

00:54:18   kind of not on HR legally it doesn't [TS]

00:54:20   have anything to do with what's actually [TS]

00:54:22   in it I i think if you smash the [TS]

00:54:23   hazelnut it would not look like nutella [TS]

00:54:25   if you took hazel let you ate peanut [TS]

00:54:29   Eminem's and hazelnuts who and then and [TS]

00:54:33   chewed them and swallowed them and then [TS]

00:54:36   sucked them out through a tube how [TS]

00:54:39   different from nutella would that be [TS]

00:54:41   I think mostly understand the science [TS]

00:54:43   mostly indistinguishable you you would [TS]

00:54:46   be a bespoke confectionery treat [TS]

00:54:49   extruding it treat extruding unity just [TS]

00:54:53   chop it a little bit like 200 [TS]

00:54:55   Senate what's in a fucking tootsie roll [TS]

00:54:57   chocolate now is a caramel they're not [TS]

00:54:59   really something what the fuck is that [TS]

00:55:00   I didn't think about that either I you [TS]

00:55:02   know i'm i'm i'm just i'm guessing that [TS]

00:55:04   somewhere down the food chain like up at [TS]

00:55:07   the top there's me who likes to eat [TS]

00:55:10   peanut Eminem's somewhere somewhere down [TS]

00:55:13   the food chain for me is something is [TS]

00:55:15   not picky someone who likes to eat a [TS]

00:55:18   kind of spreadable saw that Eminem [TS]

00:55:21   flavored material and then they could [TS]

00:55:25   have a similar tube and somewhere down [TS]

00:55:27   the line from there's somebody who wants [TS]

00:55:29   a real smooth creamy you know condensed [TS]

00:55:36   yes baby isn't missing for the older [TS]

00:55:39   folks who can't you very well but still [TS]

00:55:41   like a little bit of effect not taste in [TS]

00:55:44   in there sluiced desert so nutella is an [TS]

00:55:47   italian food isn't Italian Italian I've [TS]

00:55:53   never understood the nutella cult [TS]

00:55:55   I've never knew I know it's a thing and [TS]

00:55:56   people to come to tell if you really [TS]

00:55:58   tried have you ever tried or whatever [TS]

00:56:00   now I haven't ever had it on [TS]

00:56:01   have you had no communion now I just [TS]

00:56:05   done not at all interested in Utila and [TS]

00:56:07   here's why I'm not interested in nutella [TS]

00:56:09   for very much the same reason you talk [TS]

00:56:10   about fucking validation you're going [TS]

00:56:12   you're going you're mom's refrigerator [TS]

00:56:14   back in the day and if you see something [TS]

00:56:15   say something something chocolate but [TS]

00:56:17   it's a baker's chocolate our hall behind [TS]

00:56:19   you go oh my fucking god how i lived in [TS]

00:56:21   this house for seven years and never [TS]

00:56:23   notice there's fucking chocolate in the [TS]

00:56:25   refrigerator and we'll sit down and it's [TS]

00:56:27   literally the most disgusting and bitter [TS]

00:56:28   thing you've ever had in your life and [TS]

00:56:30   it's a total abortion and you can't [TS]

00:56:31   believe they were legally allowed to put [TS]

00:56:33   chocolate even on the label right that's [TS]

00:56:35   kinda how I feel about nutella nutella [TS]

00:56:37   got the performance qualities of peanut [TS]

00:56:39   butter but it's made out of something [TS]

00:56:41   it's not chocolate nutella day bude in [TS]

00:56:45   1964 it is a modern abomination it's [TS]

00:56:49   appeals age [TS]

00:56:50   yeah spreadable treat ya April 64 when [TS]

00:56:54   did when did the a wounded let me do hit [TS]

00:56:57   right about that same time at three two [TS]

00:56:59   or three months earlier from the Beatles [TS]

00:57:00   came to the US [TS]

00:57:01   yeah the beatles as not a coincidence i [TS]

00:57:04   don't think it's a coincidence also [TS]

00:57:05   Italy Hitler work with the [TS]

00:57:07   Italians in the axis soon i'm saying [TS]

00:57:09   italy the post-war Italy assets like 750 [TS]

00:57:12   government's I had a girlfriend in [TS]

00:57:14   college back in the days when you can [TS]

00:57:15   get you tell us so easy back in the [TS]

00:57:16   eighties I guess it wasn't as widespread [TS]

00:57:18   and she would squeeze when her parents [TS]

00:57:20   sent her a care package that had to tell [TS]

00:57:21   in it was like the happiest day of her [TS]

00:57:22   life [TS]

00:57:23   I got a care package today from a Polish [TS]

00:57:28   girl living in Germany that has like 14 [TS]

00:57:32   different kinds of lindt chocolate balls [TS]

00:57:36   it like it's that linked 14 different [TS]

00:57:41   kinds of lived Lynn Lind that's a [TS]

00:57:46   delicious John yeah and there was also a [TS]

00:57:48   lunchbox in it full of cookies and the [TS]

00:57:53   lunchbox like at in preston lunch box [TS]

00:57:56   that commemorates d-day [TS]

00:57:59   oh wow yeah yeah my my my polish doctor [TS]

00:58:06   friend living in Berlin let me add that [TS]

00:58:10   the actual German worry to simply lunch [TS]

00:58:12   body a lunchbox pulmonologist dr. Freda [TS]

00:58:15   polska polska oz idol doctor for joining [TS]

00:58:21   a girl friend friend friend is just [TS]

00:58:23   friend who may be friends girlfriend I [TS]

00:58:26   sit I really so to say for the shakes [TS]

00:58:30   yeah she's a doctor professor and and [TS]

00:58:34   may I have this beautiful box of yours [TS]

00:58:37   John that's a lot of separate pieces to [TS]

00:58:38   put together to make one care package [TS]

00:58:40   that's a very sweet gesture it did and [TS]

00:58:41   you know the the thing that I have a [TS]

00:58:44   problem that i often have is that I wish [TS]

00:58:47   that I utilize the male's more to send [TS]

00:58:50   beautiful things to people i have i have [TS]

00:58:53   things lying around that i could send to [TS]

00:58:56   people who would appreciate them i have [TS]

00:58:58   scale for an operation like that that's [TS]

00:59:01   the thing and I don't I don't I don't [TS]

00:59:03   want to use the male's a partly because [TS]

00:59:08   for instance i still have not solved my [TS]

00:59:12   tooth problem [TS]

00:59:15   which is now seven years in the often [TS]

00:59:18   they still temp technically temporary [TS]

00:59:20   and still have a temporary tooth that's [TS]

00:59:21   just that's just glued in there with [TS]

00:59:23   like safety pins like you never got your [TS]

00:59:26   plastic library card still using a [TS]

00:59:27   little flimsy guy next to you just break [TS]

00:59:29   sometimes [TS]

00:59:30   oh yeah any day it could break you could [TS]

00:59:32   break right now a pigeon fly in the [TS]

00:59:34   window hit me in the face brush my teeth [TS]

00:59:36   and and so there are all these like [TS]

00:59:41   things i want to do in life i want to [TS]

00:59:43   change the schools i want to ride on a [TS]

00:59:47   tank into Paris I want to get my tooth [TS]

00:59:52   fixed and I want to use the male's to [TS]

00:59:54   send nice things to people don't have a [TS]

00:59:56   whiteboard you're reading off and I [TS]

00:59:59   cannot [TS]

00:59:59   cannot [TS]

01:00:00   I cannot manage even the smallest detail [TS]

01:00:04   and now i have gone i had i had an [TS]

01:00:08   assistant then she passed the baton to a [TS]

01:00:12   second assistant now the second [TS]

01:00:14   assistant is very clearly a that needing [TS]

01:00:18   to pass the baton to a further assistant [TS]

01:00:21   a third assistant it has only been six [TS]

01:00:25   months since I even began this assistant [TS]

01:00:28   business and I've already had three of [TS]

01:00:30   them [TS]

01:00:30   that's a little much and I told think [TS]

01:00:33   it's my fault [TS]

01:00:34   oh I don't I don't I have a pretty good [TS]

01:00:37   sense of what it's my fault [TS]

01:00:39   have you made them agree with that I you [TS]

01:00:42   know I that everybody has their own [TS]

01:00:44   narrative I can't impose my narrative on [TS]

01:00:48   other people but I think Sheree job I've [TS]

01:00:50   been watching haha i'm watching very [TS]

01:00:54   closely and i've been i've been checking [TS]

01:00:57   my privilege on an hourly basis and i am [TS]

01:01:02   pretty confident that i have not been [TS]

01:01:05   the reason but then again who knows they [TS]

01:01:09   might not say except on a message board [TS]

01:01:12   somewhere [TS]

01:01:13   yeah the second assistant the reason [TS]

01:01:14   that I need now a third assistant is [TS]

01:01:16   that I got the second assistant or you [TS]

01:01:18   know did get but like made a nice [TS]

01:01:19   recommendation to someone who gave the [TS]

01:01:23   second assistant a proper job which now [TS]

01:01:26   is occupying like 80 hours a week is [TS]

01:01:29   John this and they keep propagating new [TS]

01:01:31   assistants sounds like sounds like fruit [TS]

01:01:33   flies [TS]

01:01:34   that's the thing i think that insisted i [TS]

01:01:36   think it's a thing where you have to go [TS]

01:01:37   through three or four people who are [TS]

01:01:39   like I want to be your assistant before [TS]

01:01:42   you find the person who says I am New [TS]

01:01:45   York systems you know what I mean [TS]

01:01:48   uh-huh you feel me I do I told you a [TS]

01:01:51   long time ago I knew a guy that's in [TS]

01:01:52   this is a great strategy but i knew a [TS]

01:01:53   guy who hired several people agreeing [TS]

01:01:56   that he would basically pay them for a [TS]

01:01:58   certain amount a month or whatever and [TS]

01:01:59   they just wind him down like that and [TS]

01:02:01   style it got down to the last one and [TS]

01:02:03   said everybody else in learning time and [TS]

01:02:04   say okay you're out of this elimination [TS]

01:02:05   have three left to left [TS]

01:02:08   with a pool cue when it means right I [TS]

01:02:10   was thinking I would just break a pool [TS]

01:02:11   cue and throw it on the floor and say I [TS]

01:02:13   can only hire one of you is the city its [TS]

01:02:16   I don't have my now I don't have my bell [TS]

01:02:23   I got you covered welcome back Lou [TS]