Roderick on the Line

Ep. 107: "Built for Now"


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00:00:23   hello hi John I'm Merlin has gone pretty [TS]

00:00:29   good pretty darn good [TS]

00:00:31   mhm mhm not too early [TS]

00:00:34   PYT pretty darn good did you do know [TS]

00:00:39   it's not too early it's it's a it's [TS]

00:00:41   medium curly as your schedule been [TS]

00:00:45   upended today part part of part of you [TS]

00:00:51   know just in the time that we've been [TS]

00:00:52   doing this podcast part of what has [TS]

00:00:54   happened to me is that my life has been [TS]

00:00:56   transformed from one that had no [TS]

00:00:58   schedule of any kind to one that has a [TS]

00:01:03   moving target schedule that's happening [TS]

00:01:06   all around me [TS]

00:01:07   coalescing coalescing in space it's it [TS]

00:01:11   is it is crystallizing out of the [TS]

00:01:13   solution but i am still like like John [TS]

00:01:19   Travolta boy in the bubble not really [TS]

00:01:23   touching the atmosphere is this making [TS]

00:01:27   sense to you now all too much time in [TS]

00:01:30   that bubble if I put my hands up against [TS]

00:01:33   it [TS]

00:01:33   yeah yeah I touch me feel me [TS]

00:01:37   I i have a very unsympathetic situation [TS]

00:01:39   which is that I have you know when I had [TS]

00:01:44   a job even though his job where I might [TS]

00:01:46   have to work on the weekends or [TS]

00:01:47   something [TS]

00:01:47   there was some sense of like I gotta go [TS]

00:01:50   to my job at 8am anyway I get to go home [TS]

00:01:53   at five or six and and I i think this is [TS]

00:01:57   more having to deal with family and [TS]

00:01:59   getting older but also to deal with [TS]

00:02:01   career stuff is it like i feel like i do [TS]

00:02:04   almost nothing and yet i have an [TS]

00:02:06   infinite number of things to do and even [TS]

00:02:09   when i do a lot with the other night [TS]

00:02:11   after dinner I came to work and I got [TS]

00:02:14   three things done that about [TS]

00:02:16   that's which is like a month of work for [TS]

00:02:18   me like accomplishing three things I [TS]

00:02:19   meant to do or been procrastinating [TS]

00:02:20   about it felt really good but that's [TS]

00:02:23   such a you know you get that dopamine [TS]

00:02:27   hit for about three minutes and then I [TS]

00:02:30   instantly go back into oh my god there's [TS]

00:02:31   so much stuff I should be doing [TS]

00:02:33   I have a list of like 50 things to talk [TS]

00:02:35   to you about yeah and we don't have to [TS]

00:02:37   talk about any of them but very good and [TS]

00:02:39   that makes all the difference [TS]

00:02:41   yeah you know what I mean there with my [TS]

00:02:43   plastic bubble [TS]

00:02:44   I do i do I have a gig tonight where I [TS]

00:02:47   am required to do five minutes but it's [TS]

00:02:52   something I have to do have to go do it [TS]

00:02:54   have to get there have to stand around [TS]

00:02:56   have to do it and have to stand around [TS]

00:03:00   some more [TS]

00:03:00   check that backstage coffee and and I [TS]

00:03:03   got a couple emails today from people [TS]

00:03:05   that were like remember that thing we [TS]

00:03:08   talked about a month ago [TS]

00:03:09   let's do now and then there were a [TS]

00:03:12   couple more emails that I'm just [TS]

00:03:14   remembering now that i'm talking about [TS]

00:03:15   it [TS]

00:03:15   we're a week ago I was like listen I'm [TS]

00:03:17   really gonna get you that thing this [TS]

00:03:18   week and both those people were like [TS]

00:03:20   alright like we're holding it waiting [TS]

00:03:25   for your thing waiting for your part of [TS]

00:03:27   it and again I mean it's all things were [TS]

00:03:29   like you know i get is an unsympathetic [TS]

00:03:31   thing but like there's like this thing [TS]

00:03:33   that I could do and i'll probably work [TS]

00:03:35   really hard on it for a long time and it [TS]

00:03:37   won't make any money but it might or [TS]

00:03:39   might be an opportunity thing or [TS]

00:03:40   whatever thing or a career thing but [TS]

00:03:42   there's like an almost infinite number [TS]

00:03:43   of things I could do for almost no money [TS]

00:03:45   right now that might turn into something [TS]

00:03:46   and I mean and but then all across the [TS]

00:03:49   spectrum there's all these little micro [TS]

00:03:50   things were like it's not really a [TS]

00:03:52   calendar event it's kind of a to do but [TS]

00:03:54   like I gotta write this talk description [TS]

00:03:56   of that should only take me five minutes [TS]

00:03:57   but it takes me a month to get it done [TS]

00:03:59   right [TS]

00:04:00   MC frontalot very familiar with his work [TS]

00:04:03   I am MC frontalot communicated with me [TS]

00:04:07   sweet two months ago maybe maybe three [TS]

00:04:11   months L and said here is I want you to [TS]

00:04:15   sing on one on my record here are [TS]

00:04:17   everything you could possibly need the [TS]

00:04:20   lyrics the track i made the idea i had [TS]

00:04:26   in mind like he really more than any [TS]

00:04:29   other musician I've worked with gave me [TS]

00:04:31   the entire deck of cards of like here is [TS]

00:04:34   everything to make it so simple and fun [TS]

00:04:39   for you to do to dream gig and I was [TS]

00:04:41   like how exciting and [TS]

00:04:43   the ease of the ease of the preparation [TS]

00:04:47   made me feel like i'll just i'll be able [TS]

00:04:49   to do that in afternoon and many many [TS]

00:04:53   afternoons have gone under the great [TS]

00:04:55   spirit in the sky and and here here i am [TS]

00:05:01   a lonely a lonely orphan dough special [TS]

00:05:08   armor Bubble Boy still haven't done it [TS]

00:05:11   and you know and front a lot is is a [TS]

00:05:15   good enough dude that he's not like a [TS]

00:05:16   he's not an email Hassler he's not a [TS]

00:05:19   he's not he's not giving me any grief [TS]

00:05:21   about it he's he actually has a [TS]

00:05:24   contingency plan probably where it's [TS]

00:05:26   like well Roger didn't come through so i [TS]

00:05:27   went ahead and did another thing you [TS]

00:05:30   might even 250 people just standing [TS]

00:05:32   restaurant first but uh but there it is [TS]

00:05:36   i really want to do it i'm excited to do [TS]

00:05:39   it i like that man very much and you [TS]

00:05:41   hurry you might be up against Colin [TS]

00:05:43   lawyer money there and Bonnie there eh [TS]

00:05:46   there's you found the one guy that can [TS]

00:05:51   trump colin Meloy in my in my drop an [TS]

00:05:54   octave and say his name snakes takes [TS]

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00:07:04   Oh Bonnie there yeah it's a beautiful [TS]

00:07:11   day here in Seattle it's a beautiful day [TS]

00:07:12   in my neighborhood I was out in the yard [TS]

00:07:15   poking around you know like it's I'm [TS]

00:07:19   living the life of Riley here can't [TS]

00:07:21   complain as you say completely [TS]

00:07:23   unsympathetic it's completely I mean my [TS]

00:07:25   imac I had a wonderful 90 minute phone [TS]

00:07:29   call and I'm exhausted I'm completely [TS]

00:07:32   exhausted i got up i laid in bed and [TS]

00:07:35   looked at twitter i made a coffee i had [TS]

00:07:37   a shower i came to work i get old around [TS]

00:07:40   come on you're exhausting me even [TS]

00:07:41   listing all the things you've done today [TS]

00:07:43   our coffee [TS]

00:07:45   come on i let it takes it out of me oh [TS]

00:07:48   me too [TS]

00:07:49   just hearing about it i had a meeting [TS]

00:07:51   yesterday at my new office space with [TS]

00:07:53   the Roderick group which now it's got to [TS]

00:07:58   be a cable show it's unlikely now [TS]

00:07:59   numbers five people haha [TS]

00:08:03   this includes your manager or assistant [TS]

00:08:06   manager your manager of assistance your [TS]

00:08:08   various assistance I you get your your [TS]

00:08:10   you get your conciliatory yep [TS]

00:08:12   executive producer co-executive producer [TS]

00:08:15   a assistant co-executive producer and so [TS]

00:08:19   I go down to my office [TS]

00:08:21   I'm there with my daughter we need to go [TS]

00:08:23   to the potty as you know that's a thing [TS]

00:08:25   that happens usually with not a whole [TS]

00:08:27   lot of notice it's like oh I need to go [TS]

00:08:30   to the potty and you go oh shit let's go [TS]

00:08:32   and I go out of my of this brand new [TS]

00:08:34   office i go i checked the doorknob as [TS]

00:08:37   i'm leaving which is the thing i don't [TS]

00:08:38   typically do but I was a new space so i [TS]

00:08:40   might check the doorknob doorknob turns [TS]

00:08:42   freely we go down to the party we come [TS]

00:08:46   back the door is locked itself somehow [TS]

00:08:48   and I'm standing there in the hall with [TS]

00:08:52   the with my daughter and I'm like [TS]

00:08:54   my keys are in there my phone is in [TS]

00:08:57   there now i cannot even go to to the [TS]

00:09:03   emergency location because the cars you [TS]

00:09:07   know the car keys are in there all that [TS]

00:09:09   stands between you and carrying on your [TS]

00:09:10   life is a tremendous analogy for your [TS]

00:09:12   life and so my daughter and I play in [TS]

00:09:18   the hall of the office building for a [TS]

00:09:22   couple of hours while we wait for the [TS]

00:09:27   rest of the people to arrive this the [TS]

00:09:30   staff the Roderick group is all coming [TS]

00:09:32   here is digital group the group and then [TS]

00:09:36   I'm going to reveal something that is a [TS]

00:09:37   little that's a little parmesan was [TS]

00:09:40   going to reveal that I'm not gonna I'm [TS]

00:09:42   not going to characterize it but I i [TS]

00:09:45   searched through my wallet looking for [TS]

00:09:49   the exact stiffness of card needed to [TS]

00:09:55   Jimmy a lock your the credit card that [TS]

00:10:00   is you know you get the old trick [TS]

00:10:02   yeah you're gr your lock jimmying card [TS]

00:10:04   has to be a certain kind of card it's a [TS]

00:10:06   it's a very special kind of card because [TS]

00:10:08   it has to be thin enough to fit but [TS]

00:10:10   stiff enough for you to go look up right [TS]

00:10:13   and i'm going through my wallet i'm like [TS]

00:10:15   I you know I don't I don't have a [TS]

00:10:17   driver's license like an old laminated [TS]

00:10:19   one anymore i haven't I have one of [TS]

00:10:21   those executive driver's licenses [TS]

00:10:22   enhanced drivers license that's like a [TS]

00:10:25   hard brittle glass Washington's license [TS]

00:10:27   clear [TS]

00:10:28   that's right and and I don't want to use [TS]

00:10:31   my credit card because I because i use [TS]

00:10:34   it 50 times a day and I don't want to I [TS]

00:10:36   don't want to be standing here in my [TS]

00:10:37   office locked out and with a credit card [TS]

00:10:39   broken in half and I'm realizing that [TS]

00:10:42   all the all the new cards i've received [TS]

00:10:44   are all either made out of paper thin [TS]

00:10:48   cardboard so not stiff enough to [TS]

00:10:51   actually pick a lock and go or they are [TS]

00:10:55   like hard brittle plastic not flexible [TS]

00:10:57   enough to fit into the georgian and so [TS]

00:11:00   I'm standing there I'm like I can't [TS]

00:11:02   believe that I don't even have you know [TS]

00:11:04   in a over filled wallet i don't have a [TS]

00:11:06   single card [TS]

00:11:07   I can use to Jimmy a door like that is [TS]

00:11:10   that makes me mad and that makes me feel [TS]

00:11:12   like it makes me feel like I don't have [TS]

00:11:15   a small bag packed now it's a failure in [TS]

00:11:17   the system for shit really it really was [TS]

00:11:19   and I wasn't anticipating it and I was [TS]

00:11:22   and I was mad at myself so I'm standing [TS]

00:11:24   there in the lobby and you know you know [TS]

00:11:26   sometimes what happens to me as i get [TS]

00:11:27   mad at myself and then ice then I [TS]

00:11:30   decided that the adequate punishment is [TS]

00:11:33   to the the my punishment is going to be [TS]

00:11:36   that I just sit on a cold linoleum floor [TS]

00:11:38   for an hour or whatever like just like [TS]

00:11:40   you don't have a lot of yourself in the [TS]

00:11:41   corner [TS]

00:11:42   yeah you don't have a lockpick you don't [TS]

00:11:44   know you don't have anybody's phone [TS]

00:11:45   number memorized anymore and there's not [TS]

00:11:47   even a phone in this building you don't [TS]

00:11:48   even deserve to know you don't you know [TS]

00:11:50   what you should be sitting in the rain [TS]

00:11:52   and the only reason you're not is [TS]

00:11:53   because your daughter is here pretty you [TS]

00:11:55   know and she is your shield against the [TS]

00:11:57   anger that you are feeling toward [TS]

00:11:59   yourself what a pussy anyway that at one [TS]

00:12:02   point one point she turned to me and she [TS]

00:12:06   said she said daddy don't [TS]

00:12:11   that and the things I hadn't guy i [TS]

00:12:13   thought i was i thought it was [TS]

00:12:14   completely opaque but she said Teddy [TS]

00:12:19   don't feel anxiety [TS]

00:12:21   oh no like I didn't even realize that [TS]

00:12:25   was projecting anxiety but thank you [TS]

00:12:27   little empath there are so many levels [TS]

00:12:29   of sad to that up but anyway so then the [TS]

00:12:33   robbery group starts to trickle in and [TS]

00:12:36   we realize oh not only are we locked out [TS]

00:12:41   but I had the only key because the key [TS]

00:12:45   had do not duplicate on it [TS]

00:12:46   yeah and the robbery group members who [TS]

00:12:48   tried to get the key duplicated were [TS]

00:12:51   thwarted and so credit to them they they [TS]

00:12:58   gave me the one key and then I like the [TS]

00:13:02   nutty professor did [TS]

00:13:04   so we're standing there in the in the [TS]

00:13:07   hallway wondering what to do and a [TS]

00:13:12   assistant to the assistant manager [TS]

00:13:15   Roderick group like sergeant-at-arms [TS]

00:13:19   baileywick am kinda disappears around [TS]

00:13:23   the corner and five minutes later she [TS]

00:13:24   comes in she's like I picked the lock [TS]

00:13:27   what she is if you can say well I'm not [TS]

00:13:32   going to reveal her secrets and you just [TS]

00:13:35   think that Tom bowling well not just [TS]

00:13:37   tumbling but also like you realize oh of [TS]

00:13:41   course you did like yes this is the team [TS]

00:13:45   this is the crew i was i I am I was [TS]

00:13:49   unprepared she was not and somehow as I [TS]

00:13:53   become crazier and and less useful i am [TS]

00:13:58   I magnetically surrounding myself with [TS]

00:14:01   apparently office ninjas [TS]

00:14:04   so now I don't even need to carry [TS]

00:14:07   lockpicks I just just have us they have [TS]

00:14:09   a lot lock-picker on staff [TS]

00:14:11   I'll tell you that sickens me this nanny [TS]

00:14:14   state you know they do not duplicate [TS]

00:14:16   Obama thanks Obama had a guy I you know [TS]

00:14:21   we're going to probably cut literally [TS]

00:14:23   all of this out but i'm a little bit [TS]

00:14:25   surprised that you don't have some kind [TS]

00:14:27   of a small lock-picking kit very [TS]

00:14:30   surprised to seems like there would be [TS]

00:14:33   something surprised at myself that those [TS]

00:14:36   are technically in the nanny state [TS]

00:14:38   illegal to own but this seems like that [TS]

00:14:41   should there should be some kind of what [TS]

00:14:44   we call the darknet what you call it the [TS]

00:14:46   dark web [TS]

00:14:48   there should be a dark web version of [TS]

00:14:49   thinkgeek where you can go and get [TS]

00:14:51   something that's the size of a zoo [TS]

00:14:53   membership card that could be used as a [TS]

00:14:56   lockpick 449 sophisticated locks [TS]

00:14:59   well believe me i came home and i took [TS]

00:15:02   all of the ID cards having to do with [TS]

00:15:05   the local swimming pool and the ID cards [TS]

00:15:08   that the ID card that I have from the [TS]

00:15:11   local community college that I basically [TS]

00:15:13   signed up for the community college just [TS]

00:15:15   to get [TS]

00:15:16   a student discount so i could buy a new [TS]

00:15:19   mac laptop and then went and and [TS]

00:15:23   realized that Macintosh's is wise to us [TS]

00:15:28   wise to students and they were like [TS]

00:15:30   here's your discount $50 what it was [TS]

00:15:33   like what you're talking about it you [TS]

00:15:35   said there was a 20-percent discount [TS]

00:15:36   they were like yeah on desktop computers [TS]

00:15:40   oh come on but laptops first let's so [TS]

00:15:44   fifty dollars off your laptop that's [TS]

00:15:46   your student discount [TS]

00:15:47   take-it-or-leave-it because we are Apple [TS]

00:15:50   take-it-or-leave-it yeah be their motto [TS]

00:15:52   take it or leave it here we go [TS]

00:15:53   but if I gotta flee typeset I got a [TS]

00:15:55   couple I got a couple of uh I got a [TS]

00:15:57   couple of tweets from a guy yesterday [TS]

00:15:58   was like I don't know why you spend so [TS]

00:16:02   much time like completing about apple [TS]

00:16:07   products online when all you need to do [TS]

00:16:10   is go to the apple store and they will [TS]

00:16:11   fix it for free [TS]

00:16:13   why do you not seek solutions [TS]

00:16:16   why do you complain instead of seeking [TS]

00:16:18   solutions that's such a partial answer [TS]

00:16:20   and I i wrote like five versions of all [TS]

00:16:25   cap fuck use to this guy and I didn't [TS]

00:16:28   send any of them but I was like Bologna [TS]

00:16:35   there you dropped your registers on that [TS]

00:16:40   one but I saw I saw you gonna leave it [TS]

00:16:43   expressing your frustration with the [TS]

00:16:46   Apple group yesterday and I i had to [TS]

00:16:49   close i had to close the browser because [TS]

00:16:51   I think I didn't want to see I didn't [TS]

00:16:52   even want to see what kind of response [TS]

00:16:54   you're going to get I think the phrase [TS]

00:16:55   you use work with something like that [TS]

00:16:56   they should be ashamed of them [TS]

00:16:58   yeah and then somebody else somebody [TS]

00:17:00   else way to me and said no one monitors [TS]

00:17:02   the at Apple twitter group so don't try [TS]

00:17:07   and except for literally millions of [TS]

00:17:09   people who like to yell at people like [TS]

00:17:10   you but it was like don't even try and [TS]

00:17:13   and and shame them because they're not [TS]

00:17:15   paying attention [TS]

00:17:16   no they're not i know i'm not trying to [TS]

00:17:19   you know like i said that that is not [TS]

00:17:21   where I'm demanding satisfaction that is [TS]

00:17:23   just a place and it's just a place of [TS]

00:17:26   like [TS]

00:17:27   but you know twitter is my place it's [TS]

00:17:29   not your place [TS]

00:17:31   you know there's lots of things that you [TS]

00:17:32   could do about a lot of things and I [TS]

00:17:34   right Randy was a number of times [TS]

00:17:36   there's an endless number of things that [TS]

00:17:37   you could do about something but that's [TS]

00:17:39   not what I'm bitching about what I'm [TS]

00:17:41   bitching about it's incredibly [TS]

00:17:42   frustrating me that I have to go and [TS]

00:17:44   navigate all those kids do things [TS]

00:17:47   yeah right i need to sign up for a an [TS]

00:17:49   appointment with some geniuses and [TS]

00:17:51   that's gonna that's going to be two days [TS]

00:17:53   out at they're at their convenience not [TS]

00:17:55   mine i get to pick one of three times [TS]

00:17:58   and then I go down there and they're [TS]

00:18:00   going to take the phone in the back room [TS]

00:18:01   and there the first thing they're going [TS]

00:18:02   to do is come out and say this phone has [TS]

00:18:03   gotten wet and so avoid all your [TS]

00:18:06   warranty is void [TS]

00:18:08   get out of our store well I want the [TS]

00:18:10   impossible i want satisfaction I want [TS]

00:18:12   them to go that like we made a whole [TS]

00:18:14   bunch of fucked-up stuff and we're sorry [TS]

00:18:15   that we inconvenience to you [TS]

00:18:16   that's what I want that's what i want to [TS]

00:18:18   that's all i want i want my phone to [TS]

00:18:20   work but i want you also to acknowledge [TS]

00:18:22   the fact that the literally thousands of [TS]

00:18:24   dollars that I've spent on this company [TS]

00:18:26   on the strengths are partly with the [TS]

00:18:27   expectation that I don't have to take [TS]

00:18:29   the advice of some people paid face kids [TS]

00:18:30   to go to the mall today [TS]

00:18:32   yeah well I want us to a letter to have [TS]

00:18:34   worked i want that letter from the US [TS]

00:18:36   State Department 200 i wanted to have [TS]

00:18:39   sorry about slavery letters you exactly [TS]

00:18:41   i am sorry I'm sorry that every war [TS]

00:18:44   we've waited since world war two has [TS]

00:18:45   been a complete fucking yeah you're not [TS]

00:18:47   even asking for reparations you're [TS]

00:18:49   asking for his simple grown-up apology [TS]

00:18:52   we we we started with my mom and I went [TS]

00:18:54   down to chase bank the last few days [TS]

00:18:56   we've been trying to set up a business [TS]

00:18:57   account with all of the you know we want [TS]

00:18:58   likes five different credit cards and so [TS]

00:19:00   forth and we got some manager and the [TS]

00:19:04   manager was like oh this will be really [TS]

00:19:06   easy but he didn't know what he was [TS]

00:19:07   doing and then you know the other people [TS]

00:19:09   in the bank were like differential to [TS]

00:19:15   his managerial status but [TS]

00:19:20   turned out as the process went on he's a [TS]

00:19:22   manager in training so he doesn't know [TS]

00:19:25   what he's doing but he's the person in [TS]

00:19:28   authority he is the B is the buck [TS]

00:19:29   lieutenant who's out in the jungle with [TS]

00:19:32   his fucking helmet on backwards getting [TS]

00:19:34   fragged that's right he's calling in a [TS]

00:19:36   fucked-up fire mission and uh and he's [TS]

00:19:40   getting his own guys hit with without [TS]

00:19:42   shells this guy but nobody's but [TS]

00:19:45   nobody's yelling at him cuz he lets his [TS]

00:19:47   lieutenant and so he screwed up this [TS]

00:19:50   thing so badly and by by the second day [TS]

00:19:52   my mom was like you know she's like I [TS]

00:19:57   don't want to do with these people [TS]

00:19:58   anymore and I said mom this is this is [TS]

00:20:00   one of our core principles if we do [TS]

00:20:04   nothing else in this family it is that [TS]

00:20:06   we punish companies who do bad jobs we [TS]

00:20:10   need to take me make it [TS]

00:20:12   that's right even if this doubles our [TS]

00:20:16   effort to move this account let you two [TS]

00:20:18   get an account that allegedly getting [TS]

00:20:20   cards now it's going to making the [TS]

00:20:22   fucking point [TS]

00:20:23   this is a question of that's right if we [TS]

00:20:25   have to fall on our sword if we never [TS]

00:20:27   get a bank account we are not going to [TS]

00:20:30   we are not going to do this this [TS]

00:20:32   business with chase they have screwed [TS]

00:20:34   this up so badly and she's like ah you [TS]

00:20:37   know and then she goes to that fit that [TS]

00:20:38   little phase she has because she's [TS]

00:20:40   afraid of a police state a little better [TS]

00:20:42   she's like she doesn't like she's she's [TS]

00:20:44   one of these people that's like don't [TS]

00:20:45   complain to the way because they'll spit [TS]

00:20:46   in your food and she's like this guy at [TS]

00:20:48   the bank he has all my information now [TS]

00:20:50   and I'm like if are you kidding me are [TS]

00:20:53   you kidding me [TS]

00:20:54   this guy if he liked the idea that this [TS]

00:20:59   banker would have some retribution [TS]

00:21:01   against us we do with it [TS]

00:21:03   well that's what I mean it's just like I [TS]

00:21:05   you know that i would we would be in a [TS]

00:21:07   position that the which I have always [TS]

00:21:09   wanted which is a position where we [TS]

00:21:12   could legitimately sick our family [TS]

00:21:17   attorney Byron de tony on a corporation [TS]

00:21:21   Byron decoding the 80-year old pitbull [TS]

00:21:25   of Washington you say [TS]

00:21:27   you environment go to the mattresses [TS]

00:21:28   Byron and I would freaking go to the [TS]

00:21:30   mattresses with but when I was in my [TS]

00:21:32   twenties Byron sometimes would come by [TS]

00:21:34   the house and say hey you wanna go for a [TS]

00:21:35   ride [TS]

00:21:35   yeah you know he had a Jaguar whenever [TS]

00:21:37   we go for a ride and then hydrolyzed [TS]

00:21:40   once we got out that he was uh he was [TS]

00:21:44   serving people with papers [TS]

00:21:46   oh my god and he would he put the papers [TS]

00:21:48   in my hand you could say to go to ring [TS]

00:21:50   the doorbell and ask her can break Jones [TS]

00:21:53   I my god and she was like this process [TS]

00:21:56   server [TS]

00:21:57   yeah he was using me to serve people [TS]

00:21:58   because they wouldn't expect because I [TS]

00:22:00   looked like a grunge rocker whenever I [TS]

00:22:01   looked like so I looked like the guy [TS]

00:22:03   that was there too [TS]

00:22:04   I looked like a bike messenger basically [TS]

00:22:06   and then you know guys would come to the [TS]

00:22:09   door and be like here here's your blue [TS]

00:22:11   papers my god buried and but you know [TS]

00:22:14   some violence you know burns the guy you [TS]

00:22:16   want on your team even though he's now [TS]

00:22:18   in his eighties and like he still he [TS]

00:22:21   still a ferocious guy and I've always [TS]

00:22:22   wanted to have a rational reason to [TS]

00:22:26   really go after some some company like [TS]

00:22:30   chase some company with a with a million [TS]

00:22:32   lawyers because you know Byron is [TS]

00:22:36   underused and he's one of these you know [TS]

00:22:39   he's one of these lawyers with a pair of [TS]

00:22:40   glasses on top of his head apparent [TS]

00:22:41   lasses on his nose and pair of glasses [TS]

00:22:43   hanging from a chain around his neck [TS]

00:22:44   that would just file he would file [TS]

00:22:46   papers all day long he would file papers [TS]

00:22:49   he would file so many papers [TS]

00:22:51   yeah I know I know it gives it gives one [TS]

00:22:54   chills anyway so so I've convinced my [TS]

00:22:56   mom that we're going to we're going to [TS]

00:22:58   punish chase it going to punish chase [TS]

00:23:01   with your business [TS]

00:23:02   we're gonna punish chase with in a small [TS]

00:23:04   way by taking our business to another [TS]

00:23:05   bank one just as reprehensible probably [TS]

00:23:08   but one but on other bank [TS]

00:23:12   unfortunately there is not really on [TS]

00:23:14   other Apple unless you count all the [TS]

00:23:18   other phone companies now I'm but I [TS]

00:23:20   think that's also i mean i really want [TS]

00:23:22   to talk about this but no no let's not [TS]

00:23:24   let's not but i'll just say that this is [TS]

00:23:26   in to clarify here I I don't want to [TS]

00:23:28   pawn shop I want Apple do what they're [TS]

00:23:30   good at which is make sure that works [TS]

00:23:32   right that's that's all i'm askin and [TS]

00:23:34   like I believe me i have i have i've [TS]

00:23:36   been the one who stands at the gate and [TS]

00:23:38   says no you guys don't get it to other [TS]

00:23:40   people [TS]

00:23:40   they sell you get this thing for a [TS]

00:23:42   nickel over here you get a get a phone [TS]

00:23:43   for a free phone or what I want to free [TS]

00:23:45   soup like no I i was that last night did [TS]

00:23:49   you get that you over here [TS]

00:23:56   I didn't want to not be not me not me i [TS]

00:23:59   do not like racial intolerance butter [TS]

00:24:04   yeah yeah no I mean I does not need [TS]

00:24:07   there's not an answer for this that the [TS]

00:24:08   answer for this [TS]

00:24:09   I understand what people are saying I [TS]

00:24:11   mean but I also I I kind of dread the [TS]

00:24:14   idea of a future where uh i don't know [TS]

00:24:17   i'm probably catastrophizing this a [TS]

00:24:19   little bit but it's frustrating to me [TS]

00:24:21   that I have to do it all [TS]

00:24:22   it's one thing to take home a new [TS]

00:24:24   computer and the hard drive breaks [TS]

00:24:25   because you know what apple didn't make [TS]

00:24:27   that hard drive and hard drives but at [TS]

00:24:28   least back in the day when I was the [TS]

00:24:30   computer guy at at my job there were [TS]

00:24:32   times we get a shipment of hard drives [TS]

00:24:33   and you know three-fifths of them will [TS]

00:24:35   be broken because that would just happen [TS]

00:24:37   back in the day [TS]

00:24:38   yeah yeah and I mean the thing was you [TS]

00:24:40   would really this might have been [TS]

00:24:42   superstition on my part put I mean this [TS]

00:24:44   is what it used to be like to be a [TS]

00:24:45   computer user was you would use you back [TS]

00:24:47   everything up really well which is very [TS]

00:24:49   expensive and then you would kind of [TS]

00:24:51   watch real carefully over the first [TS]

00:24:53   month of use because my experience was [TS]

00:24:55   that if a hard drive broke it would tend [TS]

00:24:57   to be in the first month of usage and [TS]

00:25:00   you watch some real carefully and then [TS]

00:25:01   we discovered that which is a bad lot [TS]

00:25:03   that we got from Lucy and they send us [TS]

00:25:05   new ones but you know what I don't want [TS]

00:25:06   to do that Apple I wanted to give me [TS]

00:25:08   something amazing the first time in [TS]

00:25:09   shame on them [TS]

00:25:10   that's all I'm gonna say about that well [TS]

00:25:11   yeah and I feel like we've talked about [TS]

00:25:13   this many times but it is it at what I [TS]

00:25:16   see from young people who have never [TS]

00:25:20   ever ever lived in a world where the [TS]

00:25:22   expectation of businesses was that when [TS]

00:25:25   they were providing you a good or [TS]

00:25:27   service that they did it right the first [TS]

00:25:29   time it was a well-made thing that they [TS]

00:25:31   stood behind and that their customer [TS]

00:25:34   service philosophy was the customer is [TS]

00:25:37   always right [TS]

00:25:38   what can we do to make it right now you [TS]

00:25:40   know in the rare occasion that something [TS]

00:25:42   goes wrong like everybody stop what [TS]

00:25:45   they're doing and tries to fix the [TS]

00:25:47   problem for you as fast as they can [TS]

00:25:48   because what they value is first you [TS]

00:25:52   know their reputation and the reputation [TS]

00:25:53   is predicated on your satisfaction and [TS]

00:25:56   so there there's a whole generation and [TS]

00:25:58   maybe now into two generations of people [TS]

00:26:01   who've never experienced life in that [TS]

00:26:03   world and may have grown up in a world [TS]

00:26:05   where everything is disposable where [TS]

00:26:08   companies mentality is we're just going [TS]

00:26:11   to keep pushing stuff out and if we lose [TS]

00:26:13   you know if we lose twenty percent of [TS]

00:26:16   our customers to dissatisfaction [TS]

00:26:17   and they're just twenty percent more [TS]

00:26:20   going to be lining up at the door to buy [TS]

00:26:22   the garbage that we're putting out there [TS]

00:26:24   and the twenty percent of the people are [TS]

00:26:25   going to go across the street to another [TS]

00:26:27   shit company that's turning out garbage [TS]

00:26:29   and they're just going to bounce back [TS]

00:26:31   and forth because all they're interested [TS]

00:26:33   in is what's cheapest that but also I [TS]

00:26:35   mean that was part of what you're [TS]

00:26:37   describing I started thinking about [TS]

00:26:38   restaurants where you know restaurant [TS]

00:26:39   business for 30 years but how many of [TS]

00:26:42   the things that you're using right now [TS]

00:26:43   that we've been using a company stuff [TS]

00:26:45   for 10 years I've been most companies [TS]

00:26:48   stuff you've been using for 10 years [TS]

00:26:50   have been around for a lot longer than [TS]

00:26:51   10 years because the other side of this [TS]

00:26:53   act companies go away products go away [TS]

00:26:55   I mean can you tell can tell me who made [TS]

00:26:57   your DVD player you tell me who made [TS]

00:26:59   your TV like we used to really know that [TS]

00:27:01   stuff inside nerds know that but most [TS]

00:27:03   people don't know is I don't know [TS]

00:27:04   something about a costco and it breaks [TS]

00:27:05   up a new one but what you're describing [TS]

00:27:07   in terms of like a restaurant like today [TS]

00:27:09   like you know there's a place that [TS]

00:27:11   recently reopened down the street from [TS]

00:27:13   where i am and they had three reviews on [TS]

00:27:17   yelp before the place opened [TS]

00:27:19   whoa you say oh my god this is fantastic [TS]

00:27:23   I've never i thought i'd had gourmet [TS]

00:27:25   sandwiches before but these were amazing [TS]

00:27:27   and look at other buddies know cause [TS]

00:27:29   other buddies went in and left reviews [TS]

00:27:31   and that is the cynical environment that [TS]

00:27:33   we're in right now and the place will be [TS]

00:27:34   there in two years it'll be something [TS]

00:27:36   else it'll be a verizon dealership you [TS]

00:27:38   know in no time [TS]

00:27:39   right well I'm at and that I see that I [TS]

00:27:41   see that all over the place like people [TS]

00:27:43   now this is have this is that how they [TS]

00:27:45   feel about shoes you buy a pair of shoes [TS]

00:27:46   they're not cheap cost a hundred fifty [TS]

00:27:49   never got cheaper even though you don't [TS]

00:27:51   get them fixed [TS]

00:27:52   Yeah right there they never got cheaper [TS]

00:27:54   there still extremely expensive but but [TS]

00:27:56   the idea is I you wear them for a year [TS]

00:27:58   or two and then you dump them and it's [TS]

00:28:01   like I i still have I mean I have shoes [TS]

00:28:06   that are 50 years old [TS]

00:28:09   you know I have shoes that i bought from [TS]

00:28:11   a person living person you knew well [TS]

00:28:15   well no I mean I did man she's looking [TS]

00:28:17   good shoes i choose that i bought [TS]

00:28:19   vintage 25 years ago that were 30 years [TS]

00:28:23   old at the time and I paid to have them [TS]

00:28:26   resoled and i still wear [TS]

00:28:29   and in some cases I've had shoes resoled [TS]

00:28:33   a couple of times and I recognize that I [TS]

00:28:35   am an old man and that that is an [TS]

00:28:38   archaic way of thinking but I cannot [TS]

00:28:43   describe how much better the shoes feel [TS]

00:28:47   and how much better they are and you [TS]

00:28:50   know I put on new shoes and they're like [TS]

00:28:52   it's their kind of like stone washed [TS]

00:28:55   already like they're broken in already [TS]

00:28:57   they're comfortable they're lightweight [TS]

00:28:59   and you put them on your like they're [TS]

00:29:02   fashionable looking they've got blue [TS]

00:29:05   crepe soles now and they're made out of [TS]

00:29:07   suede and they feel like slippers and we [TS]

00:29:11   and you run around in them and as soon [TS]

00:29:16   as they're you know as soon as you get a [TS]

00:29:17   stain on them as soon as the thread [TS]

00:29:19   starts to unravel or the you know like [TS]

00:29:22   I've got a pair of a kind of pair of [TS]

00:29:25   boots and I stepped on a sharp thing and [TS]

00:29:30   it cut through the soul all the way to [TS]

00:29:33   my sock line and I looked at the [TS]

00:29:36   construction and it's this it's the one [TS]

00:29:39   I mean this is the way that they keep [TS]

00:29:41   these products cheap is that the soul [TS]

00:29:45   and the top of the boot are bonded [TS]

00:29:48   together so it's kind of like a shoe [TS]

00:29:50   balloon there's no there's not actually [TS]

00:29:54   a piece of whether that they build the [TS]

00:29:58   soul you know that they build the shoe [TS]

00:30:00   on the top of and the soul on the bottom [TS]

00:30:02   like the way you construct a beach ball [TS]

00:30:03   just kind of glued together [TS]

00:30:05   yeah you take this kind of a rubbery [TS]

00:30:07   soul thing and you glue it to the to the [TS]

00:30:10   open sort of top part and you make this [TS]

00:30:15   to balloon that you put then odor eater [TS]

00:30:17   in and set its shoes tonight shoe and [TS]

00:30:22   it's great except if except they are [TS]

00:30:25   unrepairable right it's not a [TS]

00:30:27   construction that you can take any [TS]

00:30:29   portion of and change you can't put a [TS]

00:30:32   new soul on it you can't put a new top [TS]

00:30:34   on it you can't you can't really even [TS]

00:30:37   change the odor eater out because the [TS]

00:30:38   odor eater is like custom shaped [TS]

00:30:42   and so the whole thing is just built [TS]

00:30:44   it's built for now and ice [TS]

00:30:49   I'm still living in this dream state of [TS]

00:30:52   like this red wing based dream state [TS]

00:30:54   where you buy a pair of boots and you [TS]

00:30:58   think now i have the boots that I'm [TS]

00:31:01   gonna wear now I have the boots i'm [TS]

00:31:03   going to hand down to my grandson right [TS]

00:31:05   you know like these are the bees are the [TS]

00:31:07   great boots that I needed and it be [TS]

00:31:09   amazing if it lasted a year uh the the [TS]

00:31:12   new learn the Belushi's yeah the balloon [TS]

00:31:15   shoes and you know and they're not meant [TS]

00:31:16   to input the the problem is a lot of [TS]

00:31:18   these conversations that you and I have [TS]

00:31:19   here and the conversations i have out in [TS]

00:31:21   the world like they're being received by [TS]

00:31:25   people that speak the same language that [TS]

00:31:27   we do and understand the concepts but [TS]

00:31:30   they don't have in their heart that [TS]

00:31:32   fundamental feeling that the [TS]

00:31:36   relationship that the that their role as [TS]

00:31:39   consumer of things is a position of [TS]

00:31:42   power or it traditionally was a position [TS]

00:31:44   of power you were the buyer and the [TS]

00:31:47   buyer had the power of choice and the [TS]

00:31:52   power to reject bad products and that [TS]

00:31:56   was that [TS]

00:31:57   that's the myth of the of American [TS]

00:31:59   capitalism but it's also how brands of [TS]

00:32:01   change though I mean I think about stuff [TS]

00:32:03   you think about things like filson stuff [TS]

00:32:04   you've got I gotta like a windbreaker [TS]

00:32:07   that my dad bought in 1970 that i still [TS]

00:32:09   wear it started very handsome [TS]

00:32:12   that's bright red it's really cool but [TS]

00:32:15   still got the patches on it carefully so [TS]

00:32:16   non in the early nineteen seventies of [TS]

00:32:18   those is one of them say hi life and I [TS]

00:32:21   no no there's no beer once it's got its [TS]

00:32:23   got large lures on the call it's a [TS]

00:32:26   fishing protect it could be sure but you [TS]

00:32:29   know i mean this is this is gonna sound [TS]

00:32:30   / subtle but I think about how our [TS]

00:32:33   relationship with brands has changed and [TS]

00:32:35   you know your it won't just go right [TS]

00:32:37   back to you and then it was in North [TS]

00:32:38   Face you know and you know you there was [TS]

00:32:41   a time basically the bubble shoe of [TS]

00:32:43   backpacks book but in that case I mean [TS]

00:32:47   you know people would use that to [TS]

00:32:49   actually go do stuff they would use that [TS]

00:32:51   to go do stuff where the weather might [TS]

00:32:53   change [TS]

00:32:54   inch and they might have to be out an [TS]

00:32:56   extra two or three days and they would [TS]

00:32:58   have to make do [TS]

00:32:59   I'm not saying it's like survivalists [TS]

00:33:00   kind of stuff but there but that was [TS]

00:33:02   stuff that was made for that kind of [TS]

00:33:03   wear and tear [TS]

00:33:05   whereas now today I mean people align [TS]

00:33:06   themselves with these brands based on [TS]

00:33:10   I mean the case of Apple I think you can [TS]

00:33:12   fairly say yeah it is based on a certain [TS]

00:33:13   kind of build quality or whatever but I [TS]

00:33:15   mean you know there's all kinds of stuff [TS]

00:33:17   where you're like the way this confusing [TS]

00:33:20   like the way this looks [TS]

00:33:22   until you find out that somebody on the [TS]

00:33:24   board was against gay marriage and then [TS]

00:33:26   and then that's a different thing now [TS]

00:33:27   you go look for another logo because [TS]

00:33:29   it's more comports with how you feel [TS]

00:33:31   about the world and I think maybe maybe [TS]

00:33:34   that was just maybe a little more subtle [TS]

00:33:36   in the past but you know I and I you [TS]

00:33:39   know I'm not trying to say anything [TS]

00:33:40   grand i think a lot of this test has to [TS]

00:33:42   do with amazing marketing over the last [TS]

00:33:44   hundred years but every family your hunt [TS]

00:33:46   family or your behinds family or a coke [TS]

00:33:48   family or pepsi family and you know you [TS]

00:33:50   would rarely meet people who would you [TS]

00:33:52   know go over crossover the other brand [TS]

00:33:54   unless I guess was you know because of a [TS]

00:33:55   big sale or something but even still so [TS]

00:33:58   Kevin hornings mom would not drink coke [TS]

00:34:00   if I have a truck backed up and gave her [TS]

00:34:04   a lifetime supply freak shouldn't [TS]

00:34:06   consume coach she was Pepsi all the way [TS]

00:34:08   you know the irony is John there are so [TS]

00:34:12   many things today where I could not pass [TS]

00:34:14   the quote-unquote Pepsi challenge I [TS]

00:34:16   could not tell you that I could not tell [TS]

00:34:18   the difference between five wines I [TS]

00:34:19   couldn't say what color most of them are [TS]

00:34:21   but to this day I can still tell you the [TS]

00:34:23   difference between a coconut pepsi an RC [TS]

00:34:25   yeah well I I I feel like part part of [TS]

00:34:30   this is that every time I walk out of [TS]

00:34:33   the door and you know and I i don't i'm [TS]

00:34:35   not exaggerating when I say this it [TS]

00:34:36   seems like maybe that this is some [TS]

00:34:39   increasingly it's it's become kind of my [TS]

00:34:42   my brand and that that it is but it's [TS]

00:34:46   funny but it is literally true that [TS]

00:34:50   every time I walk out of the door I [TS]

00:34:53   think what if I what if I never come [TS]

00:34:57   back [TS]

00:34:59   like I'm walking out the door in these [TS]

00:35:01   clothes what if this is the last time I [TS]

00:35:03   walk out of this door for whatever [TS]

00:35:06   reason like nobody ever expects the [TS]

00:35:10   Spanish Inquisition with her and if you [TS]

00:35:14   if you walk out of the house in like in [TS]

00:35:19   your flip-flops and drawstring shorts [TS]

00:35:22   what if that just happens to be the day [TS]

00:35:25   that everything comes unraveled for [TS]

00:35:29   whatever reason and then you're out [TS]

00:35:32   there in the world with your flip-flops [TS]

00:35:35   and your drawstring shorts and that and [TS]

00:35:37   you've gotta make it from that point [TS]

00:35:40   forward you know you've got to like your [TS]

00:35:44   you're the person huddled up in a [TS]

00:35:47   drainage culvert and you're in here in [TS]

00:35:51   your drawstring shorts and flip-flops [TS]

00:35:53   and you're saying to yourself well [TS]

00:35:55   where's nice where can I find lamp oil [TS]

00:35:57   right like this would be hard even if I [TS]

00:36:01   were in shoes and pants but i have made [TS]

00:36:04   it additionally difficult because now [TS]

00:36:06   the first thing I have to do is to find [TS]

00:36:08   some shoes like before I do anything [TS]

00:36:11   else before I go that searching for lamp [TS]

00:36:14   oil [TS]

00:36:15   I've got to get shoes first and so this [TS]

00:36:18   is the premise behind keeping a small [TS]

00:36:20   bag packed this is a premise behind [TS]

00:36:22   having that bag in your car and [TS]

00:36:24   ultimately the idea behind why didn't I [TS]

00:36:26   have a lockpick in my wall I don't want [TS]

00:36:28   to bring it up [TS]

00:36:29   yeah and it you know and that but you [TS]

00:36:32   can never know where the soft spots in [TS]

00:36:34   your scheme or unless you're always [TS]

00:36:35   probing them and for me every time I [TS]

00:36:40   walk out the door and there are times [TS]

00:36:42   when I walk out the door it's like if [TS]

00:36:43   the if this is the moment like I'm [TS]

00:36:45   putting I'm putting myself in fates [TS]

00:36:47   hands right now because i am going away [TS]

00:36:50   from my house with no contingency plan [TS]

00:36:54   because it's a hot summer day and i'm [TS]

00:36:55   just going to the fucking beach and I [TS]

00:36:57   don't want to think about it right now [TS]

00:36:57   but it's always in the back of my mind [TS]

00:37:00   what happens if I never get back here [TS]

00:37:02   and if you know so if i have a house [TS]

00:37:06   full of survival gear [TS]

00:37:09   it's going to really benefit whatever [TS]

00:37:12   mutants end up colonizing my house [TS]

00:37:15   because I am living in a culvert [TS]

00:37:17   somewhere so that the concept of [TS]

00:37:22   readiness the premise of readiness is [TS]

00:37:24   like you need to always be ready and it [TS]

00:37:27   and if it's and any and it's fun for me [TS]

00:37:30   you know that is a game [TS]

00:37:31   it isn't based on paranoia it's not be I [TS]

00:37:34   mean I recognize that we get our systems [TS]

00:37:38   largely work right but that the grid of [TS]

00:37:41   electricity but you have no control over [TS]

00:37:43   that you're lucky you're lucky if you [TS]

00:37:45   eat this amazing how often you can roll [TS]

00:37:47   around without a contingency plan [TS]

00:37:49   even something as simple as like like [TS]

00:37:51   having a key hidden outside your house [TS]

00:37:53   or something like that you can go buy [TS]

00:37:54   for years and years and years and that [TS]

00:37:56   will never become an issue but there's a [TS]

00:37:57   writer I like named David Allen and one [TS]

00:37:59   of his things i like a lot he said [TS]

00:38:01   something along the lines of the worst [TS]

00:38:02   time to decide that you really need to [TS]

00:38:04   practice that martial arts is when [TS]

00:38:06   you're getting jumped in an alley right [TS]

00:38:08   right and the work yeah exactly right [TS]

00:38:11   and the worst time to discover that you [TS]

00:38:12   don't have a lockpick in your wallet is [TS]

00:38:14   when you're locked out of a place and [TS]

00:38:15   that is when you're going to discover it [TS]

00:38:17   right if you don't if you're not [TS]

00:38:18   thinking about it all the time and if [TS]

00:38:21   you're not just kind of consciously [TS]

00:38:22   borderline aware like I think about [TS]

00:38:24   being in a wheelchair if I were in a [TS]

00:38:25   wheelchair the world would look very [TS]

00:38:28   different to me you know the landscape [TS]

00:38:31   would look different [TS]

00:38:32   getting from place to place should [TS]

00:38:33   really fix the pavement outside your [TS]

00:38:34   house you know that would be the master [TS]

00:38:37   in wheelchairs can take longer if you [TS]

00:38:38   haven't said do-it-yourself except you [TS]

00:38:40   know I would like I would have I think [TS]

00:38:44   that I think that what I would have is I [TS]

00:38:46   would have a motorized wheelchair that i [TS]

00:38:47   never used the motor [TS]

00:38:49   haha you know I would be late you'd be [TS]

00:38:53   in constant training i'd be pushing it's [TS]

00:38:56   like in the seventies when people walk [TS]

00:38:57   around with weights on your on their [TS]

00:38:59   ankles and wrists [TS]

00:39:01   that's right i would be pushing against [TS]

00:39:02   the additional weight of the motorized [TS]

00:39:04   wheelchair all the time partly in laxmi [TS]

00:39:06   yourself [TS]

00:39:07   probably but I would want the motor [TS]

00:39:09   there in case I need it or in case I [TS]

00:39:14   wanted her in case you know like it [TS]

00:39:15   would and that and honestly like that [TS]

00:39:17   would require that wheelchairs be [TS]

00:39:19   redesigned and honestly we [TS]

00:39:22   chair design seems to me to be a really [TS]

00:39:24   unexplored I know there are people doing [TS]

00:39:27   it i totally agree but I feel like a [TS]

00:39:29   wheelchair design should be a place [TS]

00:39:31   where startups like Elon Musk I don't [TS]

00:39:35   know why he has not built the the like [TS]

00:39:38   uber wheelchair and I know the dude the [TS]

00:39:41   segway dude yeah build some kind of [TS]

00:39:43   standing wheelchair that was this is [TS]

00:39:45   precursor to the segway was this amazing [TS]

00:39:47   wheelchair that could like lift you up [TS]

00:39:49   in the air [TS]

00:39:50   yeah but just think about how many [TS]

00:39:51   people you see on Rascals just because [TS]

00:39:53   they really don't want to walk i think [TS]

00:39:54   is a huge untapped market [TS]

00:39:56   well I mean yeah the supermarket rascal [TS]

00:39:58   right where you can you come to the [TS]

00:39:59   supermarket and like part of the appeal [TS]

00:40:01   is Justin yeah those are those are [TS]

00:40:02   beaters but I mean what see once you've [TS]

00:40:04   written in one of those you get the idea [TS]

00:40:05   pretty fast i would call a convenience [TS]

00:40:07   chair because first of all you know the [TS]

00:40:09   thing you realize about accessibility [TS]

00:40:11   honestly [TS]

00:40:12   well that's a ramp or whether that's [TS]

00:40:13   larger type is it's not really a [TS]

00:40:15   question of like whether or not you are [TS]

00:40:16   was a freak crippled it's not whether or [TS]

00:40:19   not you're crippled it's not whether or [TS]

00:40:20   not you're handicapped it's the fact [TS]

00:40:22   that you're healthy for now because [TS]

00:40:24   you're eventually going to need pretty [TS]

00:40:26   much everything that accessibility gives [TS]

00:40:27   us [TS]

00:40:28   everybody's going to eventually need a [TS]

00:40:29   ramp trust me everybody's eventually if [TS]

00:40:32   you're if you're lucky enough to live [TS]

00:40:33   long enough to have your eyes fail [TS]

00:40:34   you're gonna want the big type M so I'm [TS]

00:40:37   just saying I comfort chairs so maybe [TS]

00:40:40   somebody think of the front [TS]

00:40:40   I really feel like this is an untapped [TS]

00:40:42   market a huge growth possibility but you [TS]

00:40:44   know what I had it I had it inside the [TS]

00:40:46   other day a business that I really [TS]

00:40:49   actually do kind of want to get into do [TS]

00:40:52   you remember buck rogers in the 25th [TS]

00:40:54   century sure Darren great boom but with [TS]

00:40:59   the television show [TS]

00:41:00   oh yeah what we keep ed right well the [TS]

00:41:04   more i reflect on that television show [TS]

00:41:06   the more I realized that it really [TS]

00:41:08   affected really influenced my idea what [TS]

00:41:11   the future was going to look like in [TS]

00:41:14   particular two things one whenever there [TS]

00:41:18   was a gathering of people whenever there [TS]

00:41:20   was like a whenever there was peace or [TS]

00:41:23   sociability or they were meeting a new [TS]

00:41:24   culture [TS]

00:41:25   what did they do they got rid of ribbons [TS]

00:41:28   out and they danced in a circle holding [TS]

00:41:31   ribbons with one another while somebody [TS]

00:41:34   played the weird [TS]

00:41:35   like synthesizer OBO right so there's [TS]

00:41:39   like some synthesizer hahaha oh dance [TS]

00:41:42   music and then they're kind of doing [TS]

00:41:44   like a maypole dance holding ribbons [TS]

00:41:47   that seem to be like look that's a [TS]

00:41:49   better way to say we're not a threat [TS]

00:41:51   we're not a threat here we are we're all [TS]

00:41:52   dancing with ribbons together to some to [TS]

00:41:55   some OBO electric Obama's so I'm upset [TS]

00:41:59   that isn't I have yet to see that really [TS]

00:42:01   be part of like hipster culture and I [TS]

00:42:03   feel like maybe that could be next but [TS]

00:42:06   the other thing and the number one thing [TS]

00:42:08   is jumpsuits [TS]

00:42:11   yeah I do remember shiny jumpsuits [TS]

00:42:13   unitard outfits and as you recall like [TS]

00:42:17   my orange flight suit was a big part of [TS]

00:42:21   my preteen early teen years i was [TS]

00:42:25   thinking about it the other day and I [TS]

00:42:27   was like it's the one thing of the [TS]

00:42:31   seventies that we have that has not been [TS]

00:42:33   reintroduced i initially ironically and [TS]

00:42:38   then and then earnestly but there is [TS]

00:42:41   nothing better then a onesie [TS]

00:42:46   yeah and if you could make onesies and [TS]

00:42:49   the thing is you can you can make [TS]

00:42:50   onesies out of sweat pant material you [TS]

00:42:54   can make onesies out of fleece you can [TS]

00:42:56   make onesies on anything and I mean with [TS]

00:42:59   this also include things like dickies [TS]

00:43:02   your carhartt coveralls not overalls but [TS]

00:43:04   I mean like you talk about like the kind [TS]

00:43:05   of suit like like a painter would wear [TS]

00:43:06   maybe but here's the thing and this is [TS]

00:43:08   the reason why I think this is this is [TS]

00:43:10   so of the moment people are like half [TS]

00:43:14   the population i have just surrendered [TS]

00:43:16   to the idea we get into fights about the [TS]

00:43:19   fights with people about this all the [TS]

00:43:20   time they've just surrendered its like [TS]

00:43:22   that they believe that everyone in the [TS]

00:43:26   world should see their ass crack if it [TS]

00:43:27   makes if it makes them one percent more [TS]

00:43:30   comfortable on air boots and Jamie's [TS]

00:43:31   they're just like I am a gross lob i'm [TS]

00:43:35   wearing juicy sweatpants and a halter [TS]

00:43:38   and that's my right as an American and [TS]

00:43:42   comfort above all my comfort is my [TS]

00:43:44   church [TS]

00:43:45   that's right my comfort above above all [TS]

00:43:48   else so half the population is there and [TS]

00:43:51   then the other half of the power is [TS]

00:43:53   certainly a percentage of a large [TS]

00:43:55   percentage of the youth population and [TS]

00:43:57   people that live in my circle are have [TS]

00:44:01   have gone all the way to like this this [TS]

00:44:07   new era of fashion that is so [TS]

00:44:09   form-fitting and so tailored that it [TS]

00:44:12   cannot possibly be comfortable under any [TS]

00:44:14   circumstances you know the stovepipe [TS]

00:44:18   pants and the super tight shirts and the [TS]

00:44:21   really tailored jackets close-fitting [TS]

00:44:23   everything you know to the nth power [TS]

00:44:26   unless you're spending six thousand [TS]

00:44:28   dollars on a suit you're wearing some [TS]

00:44:30   Ludlow off-the-rack j.crew suit you are [TS]

00:44:33   just you're just barely holding it [TS]

00:44:36   together like you're definitely not [TS]

00:44:37   going over a fence in that outfit and I [TS]

00:44:42   think when we think about unitards and [TS]

00:44:44   we think about boiler suits and [TS]

00:44:45   jumpsuits of all kinds you your [TS]

00:44:47   immediate your mind leaps to the image [TS]

00:44:51   of someone at a furry convention in in [TS]

00:44:56   like a suit their grandmother made [TS]

00:44:59   that's like a lie on but it has little [TS]

00:45:02   pilling little polyester pills on it [TS]

00:45:05   from having been washed so many find [TS]

00:45:06   well-loved to get all the semen and sent [TS]

00:45:09   or out of it it's it's got a little [TS]

00:45:13   fuzzy fuzzy tail semen-stained pilling [TS]

00:45:16   lion sue but it doesn't have to be that [TS]

00:45:20   you know we could we could my my unitard [TS]

00:45:23   idea is that we make it out of these [TS]

00:45:24   modern fabrics these comfortable fabrics [TS]

00:45:26   that people love so much but we tailor [TS]

00:45:29   it so that it is like so that it's very [TS]

00:45:32   becoming [TS]

00:45:33   sometimes you put a robe double-breasted [TS]

00:45:35   buttons on it sometimes you put a little [TS]

00:45:37   patch that says gone fishing on it like [TS]

00:45:40   you can express yourself a little beast [TS]

00:45:43   it's a movable piece that's right you [TS]

00:45:44   put epaulets on it you put like a like a [TS]

00:45:47   faux belt [TS]

00:45:48   some of them have bell-bottom some of [TS]

00:45:50   them are pegged and it's a whole new [TS]

00:45:53   fashion it's a it's very fashion-forward [TS]

00:45:56   some of our side zip some of our middles [TS]

00:45:59   if you get a gusset [TS]

00:46:00   the crotch little gusset maybe a [TS]

00:46:02   double-breasted like a Hermann Goering I [TS]

00:46:04   I like chief of the Air Force look [TS]

00:46:06   powder-blue applets but you don't you [TS]

00:46:10   get out of it is you think about what [TS]

00:46:13   you go through with the travel air [TS]

00:46:15   travel [TS]

00:46:16   you got to think i'm going to check my [TS]

00:46:17   luggage and i'm going to drag this giant [TS]

00:46:19   luggage onto the plane and take up the [TS]

00:46:21   entire rack you your your suit your [TS]

00:46:23   double breasted coverall onesie could [TS]

00:46:26   also be your carry-on luggage because [TS]

00:46:27   you get a lot of pockets and you didn't [TS]

00:46:29   you see people with utility kilts and [TS]

00:46:31   carry whole toolbox in those things [TS]

00:46:32   that's right in fact yeah you are a tool [TS]

00:46:34   box if you're wearing one of those it [TS]

00:46:37   could you can put a subway sandwich in [TS]

00:46:38   there you can have a hammer [TS]

00:46:40   you could definitely get fit in like a [TS]

00:46:41   large ipad and some of those pockets 70s [TS]

00:46:43   a wood at TSA would have a sign that [TS]

00:46:45   says you know anything you can put in [TS]

00:46:48   your unitard is fine we don't do an [TS]

00:46:52   additional search if you know like we [TS]

00:46:54   are our new backscatter body scanners [TS]

00:46:58   can can see all the things that you have [TS]

00:47:01   in your pockets and every pocket you [TS]

00:47:03   know with me Taylor make the pocket so [TS]

00:47:05   that so that you know you can 30s a safe [TS]

00:47:08   that's all the TSA that's right esa [TS]

00:47:10   compliance who but I feel like we need [TS]

00:47:13   to we need to get ahead of this like [TS]

00:47:14   comfort style division this resident [TS]

00:47:20   things John it's not going to go away we [TS]

00:47:21   need to we need to get hit go with the [TS]

00:47:23   ball is headed with the punches spinning [TS]

00:47:25   and if we go there and arrived there [TS]

00:47:26   with a jumpsuit I think there's going to [TS]

00:47:28   be people standing in line probably like [TS]

00:47:29   jammies for now [TS]

00:47:30   jumpsuits jumpsuits jumpsuits like it [TS]

00:47:33   appeals to the jammy crowd it appeals to [TS]

00:47:35   the cosplay crowded appeals to the [TS]

00:47:37   fashion people crowd and it absolutely [TS]

00:47:39   appeals to the vision of the future I [TS]

00:47:42   had as a kid where everybody was [TS]

00:47:44   co-ordinated and at you know dare i say [TS]

00:47:48   it's sleek like it looks and it's an end [TS]

00:47:51   it's in keeping with the increasing [TS]

00:47:52   militarism in our society so that [TS]

00:47:55   everybody is kind of in a very uniform [TS]

00:47:57   various sign I mean you could in some [TS]

00:48:01   cases you could pair with a bow tie and [TS]

00:48:04   a sports jacket [TS]

00:48:05   I mean you know in time the thing is if [TS]

00:48:07   you ask people like 15-20 years ago [TS]

00:48:09   which you ever expect to see coeds with [TS]

00:48:12   tramp stamps [TS]

00:48:13   walking around in suede suede basically [TS]

00:48:17   slippers [TS]

00:48:18   yeah they said no way no way not even no [TS]

00:48:20   way we're never gonna let you know the [TS]

00:48:22   911 happened everybody's got on boots [TS]

00:48:23   but I i we could get I could see within [TS]

00:48:26   one year that there is atrocious stuff [TS]

00:48:28   that happens in fashion everyday job but [TS]

00:48:29   this is practical [TS]

00:48:31   it'sit's Democratic it's not costly to [TS]

00:48:34   get a jumpsuit jumpsuit jumpsuit [TS]

00:48:36   it's absolutely true we could and the [TS]

00:48:38   thing is you can custom make them so [TS]

00:48:39   that they have so that if you want to [TS]

00:48:43   back flap if you want to poop flap you [TS]

00:48:44   can have it if you want to select a [TS]

00:48:46   little boy in a children's book that's [TS]

00:48:49   right a little boy and children let's [TS]

00:48:50   hangout was like what if what if you [TS]

00:48:52   wanted to / masturbators you would you [TS]

00:48:53   have to take off the entire garment [TS]

00:48:55   which you have that drop it [TS]

00:48:57   we would we would account for that and [TS]

00:49:00   you'd be able to see you be able to see [TS]

00:49:01   people walking through the airport like [TS]

00:49:02   this person is in one this person is in [TS]

00:49:05   a suit that he has had custom-made and [TS]

00:49:07   he apparently does not ever pooper does [TS]

00:49:09   not fear the need but he has a very is [TS]

00:49:12   very carefully hidden jackhole but this [TS]

00:49:15   person over here has basically got a [TS]

00:49:18   colostomy bag built into the into their [TS]

00:49:20   suit [TS]

00:49:21   it's like the entire everything below [TS]

00:49:23   the waist is just flaps attention and [TS]

00:49:26   but it's got you got your pockets he got [TS]

00:49:28   buttons i think it could be a very smart [TS]

00:49:30   look and it can be very flattering [TS]

00:49:32   especially if you're slender also this [TS]

00:49:34   was that this was this this comports [TS]

00:49:36   with a further idea which is that as as [TS]

00:49:40   the years go by and I'm not now I'm [TS]

00:49:43   prognosticating way into the future as [TS]

00:49:46   the years go by what are the great [TS]

00:49:47   brands get your nike yeah apple like [TS]

00:49:53   Levi's Levi's coke also Judaism that's [TS]

00:49:59   wrong brand Christianity big brand right [TS]

00:50:02   the the the the the moon of the Moon of [TS]

00:50:07   Islam those are big brands right you've [TS]

00:50:10   got the American flag that's a killer [TS]

00:50:11   brand [TS]

00:50:13   I feel like the hammer and sickle of the [TS]

00:50:16   Soviet Union is a great brand that's [TS]

00:50:18   being underutilized right now [TS]

00:50:20   Andre the Giant he has a posse of the [TS]

00:50:25   Rising Sun flag of the of World War two [TS]

00:50:28   the Japanese in World War two great [TS]

00:50:31   brand think about that i mean and [TS]

00:50:34   ultimately like the swastika amazing [TS]

00:50:36   brand so as we go into the future and [TS]

00:50:39   brands become what we're really talking [TS]

00:50:43   about right like eventually there's [TS]

00:50:46   going to be a situation where the nike [TS]

00:50:48   people and the Christians have some beef [TS]

00:50:51   with each other right it's like I [TS]

00:50:54   represent nike and I'm tired of being [TS]

00:50:57   persecuted by them by the Christians who [TS]

00:50:59   refuse to you only wear adidas or [TS]

00:51:01   whatever you know this is going to be [TS]

00:51:03   the brands are going to come up with [TS]

00:51:05   plenty of room for unnecessary [TS]

00:51:06   factionalism there's a reason we could [TS]

00:51:08   make a little Bank off of that well [TS]

00:51:09   that's something right now the religious [TS]

00:51:11   brands are all in contention with each [TS]

00:51:12   other and there's a little and we're [TS]

00:51:14   increasingly seeing religious brands [TS]

00:51:16   attached to national brands right so [TS]

00:51:20   from from the Middle East when they [TS]

00:51:23   think of the the united states they [TS]

00:51:25   think of the American flag they are [TS]

00:51:28   subconsciously attaching Christianity to [TS]

00:51:31   that brand and even though there's no [TS]

00:51:34   cross on the American flag that's that's [TS]

00:51:37   what they are seeing and it's a it's a [TS]

00:51:39   Miss understanding of it but in some [TS]

00:51:41   ways maybe a hyper understanding of it [TS]

00:51:43   and when we look at the when we look at [TS]

00:51:46   the arabic script we are also seeing the [TS]

00:51:52   Halfmoon of Islam right so these brands [TS]

00:51:56   are going to start are going to start [TS]

00:51:58   bleeding into one another and you know [TS]

00:52:02   like all the Star of David the israeli [TS]

00:52:05   flag the Star of David on that loan that [TS]

00:52:07   powder-blue Oh what an amazing brand [TS]

00:52:09   that is and when that starts getting [TS]

00:52:12   sort of attached to commercial products [TS]

00:52:15   as all these ideas start to blend into [TS]

00:52:17   each other [TS]

00:52:18   what are we going to have we're going to [TS]

00:52:20   have an international [TS]

00:52:22   league of neighborhood stick fights with [TS]

00:52:27   people in unitards with these various [TS]

00:52:32   brands so it's going to be the hammer [TS]

00:52:35   and sickles against the Maytag washing [TS]

00:52:38   machines [TS]

00:52:39   oh I understand that sells got the the [TS]

00:52:42   giant stick fight league national [TS]

00:52:45   socialist vs brownies [TS]

00:52:47   thank you right and everybody's you know [TS]

00:52:51   the the different jumpsuits are going to [TS]

00:52:52   be different colors they're going to [TS]

00:52:54   have different sort of patches and [TS]

00:52:55   brands on them like like NASCAR racers [TS]

00:52:58   and this is going to be the the united [TS]

00:53:02   nations of the of the future we're [TS]

00:53:05   working on resolving these things on the [TS]

00:53:07   game field there's a certain amount of [TS]

00:53:10   death and mayhem involved to satisfy our [TS]

00:53:12   human blood lists but really it's going [TS]

00:53:15   to be brand against brand and I i want [TS]

00:53:20   to get in on the ground floor of those [TS]

00:53:22   jumpsuits [TS]

00:53:23   I like it I like it it's sort of like [TS]

00:53:26   the way Apple came in you know 2006 [TS]

00:53:29   people say know who was gonna why would [TS]

00:53:32   Apple make a phone like phones arkamada [TS]

00:53:34   modified right you go get out and get [TS]

00:53:37   get an A and a box of Cracker Jack these [TS]

00:53:39   days but then Apple figure out how to do [TS]

00:53:40   it right it was a part of what you're [TS]

00:53:42   saying here is we get on the ground [TS]

00:53:43   floor of this where it's not super [TS]

00:53:45   costly to make something like this but [TS]

00:53:47   we make something that will years after [TS]

00:53:50   you are crippled or dead from your [TS]

00:53:53   neighborhood stick fight your suit will [TS]

00:53:55   live on your family can keep using it [TS]

00:53:56   it's gonna be that well-made like I [TS]

00:53:59   think about carhartt pants I've got [TS]

00:54:00   there like you know quintuple stitched [TS]

00:54:02   you know me like logging pants that this [TS]

00:54:04   could be a really nice stick fighting [TS]

00:54:05   jumpsuit [TS]

00:54:06   well yeah sure and then you know and [TS]

00:54:08   you're going to have you're going to [TS]

00:54:09   have your like your eyes odd alligator [TS]

00:54:11   your do you have you seen those those [TS]

00:54:13   new clothes new ralph lauren shirts [TS]

00:54:16   where they have blown up the the polo [TS]

00:54:19   pony so that it's the size of like a pie [TS]

00:54:22   plate on the shirt [TS]

00:54:24   this is the end at the thing is we sound [TS]

00:54:26   like such grandfather's right now [TS]

00:54:28   because they've been making these things [TS]

00:54:29   for years and all the frat boys [TS]

00:54:31   wearing them for a long time but you [TS]

00:54:33   know the little teeny polo pony rides to [TS]

00:54:35   be like a you know three quarters of an [TS]

00:54:37   inch high [TS]

00:54:37   yeah now the on the new shirts it's [TS]

00:54:40   basically the size of like a small [TS]

00:54:42   frisbee same polo pony but it takes up a [TS]

00:54:46   quarter of the front of the shirt and [TS]

00:54:49   this is you know this is the genius of [TS]

00:54:52   branding where the company was like [TS]

00:54:55   let's make this thing so big and people [TS]

00:54:57   will think that it is like fresh anymore [TS]

00:54:59   brand for the money [TS]

00:55:01   yeah but now people can you know like [TS]

00:55:02   they can see from space what brand of [TS]

00:55:04   shirt you're wearing [TS]

00:55:06   so eventually it's going to be the case [TS]

00:55:08   that that polo pony no longer needs to [TS]

00:55:11   actually be attached to shake something [TS]

00:55:14   as small as a shirt like what [TS]

00:55:18   what matters is not the garment what [TS]

00:55:20   matters is the polo pony you put on the [TS]

00:55:23   stadium [TS]

00:55:23   I'm you the right foot you could put it [TS]

00:55:25   on a stadium you could put it on a [TS]

00:55:26   jumpsuit that was manufactured by [TS]

00:55:28   anybody people that discerning as long [TS]

00:55:31   as it's got the pony on it they're gonna [TS]

00:55:32   buy it [TS]

00:55:33   did I remember in the nineties seeing a [TS]

00:55:35   gal it was a one of those hot summer [TS]

00:55:37   days where the gals in seattle a [TS]

00:55:40   particularly the lesbian gals are all [TS]

00:55:43   wearing a wife-beater t-shirts [TS]

00:55:45   this was in the nineties when and I [TS]

00:55:47   think it may even still be true i'm less [TS]

00:55:49   up on contemporary summer lesbian [TS]

00:55:52   fashion but in the mid-nineties all the [TS]

00:55:56   girls who love girls switch to switch to [TS]

00:56:01   tank top like you know white colored [TS]

00:56:04   Frank norton style tank top tee shirts [TS]

00:56:09   at a certain day in the summer and then [TS]

00:56:11   that was what they were wearing and one [TS]

00:56:13   day I was sitting around i was sitting [TS]

00:56:15   outside a bar called the wild rose which [TS]

00:56:16   is the women who love women bar [TS]

00:56:20   and there's a girl sitting at the table [TS]

00:56:22   next to me and she has a big nike swoop [TS]

00:56:26   tattoo on her shoulder and was the first [TS]

00:56:32   time I had ever seen somebody and since [TS]

00:56:34   that time I've seen thousands of [TS]

00:56:37   instances where people put like that's [TS]

00:56:40   like brand logos sportswear logos [TS]

00:56:43   tattooed on their body but this was the [TS]

00:56:47   first time I'd ever seen it took me a [TS]

00:56:48   minute i was looking at I was like is [TS]

00:56:50   that is tennis nike scoop that a [TS]

00:56:53   checkmark am I not seeing that right now [TS]

00:56:56   is that is that is this some kind of [TS]

00:56:58   Rashad touched workshop plus your first [TS]

00:57:01   phase is already a little bit normative [TS]

00:57:05   right well no my gaze has never been [TS]

00:57:08   more but but I understand what you're [TS]

00:57:11   trying to say but in any case I'm [TS]

00:57:14   looking I'm looking at her swoop and I [TS]

00:57:18   realize it's a fucking nike scoop [TS]

00:57:20   she's got a tattooed on herself I do not [TS]

00:57:23   know what she means i'm not sure what [TS]

00:57:26   there's nothing like the brand of the [TS]

00:57:30   brand is meant to differentiate this [TS]

00:57:34   pair of shoes from that pair of shoes [TS]

00:57:36   but when you put it on your skin [TS]

00:57:39   yeah I mean you're you're flipping [TS]

00:57:42   through this irony rolodex for all the [TS]

00:57:44   possible readings [TS]

00:57:45   what's one thing you know if you go out [TS]

00:57:46   and you decide to get a UPC symbol on [TS]

00:57:49   your forehead like we know that's [TS]

00:57:50   probably singing States fucking super [TS]

00:57:53   punk i will say the Lord's there's just [TS]

00:57:57   open up up but I you know any even if [TS]

00:58:02   you do something that's like kind of [TS]

00:58:03   working against the grain [TS]

00:58:05   I ideologically yeah you know I keep [TS]

00:58:08   like even if even if she had like a Tom [TS]

00:58:10   of Finland guy tattooed on her arm so [TS]

00:58:13   well she's making a statement about [TS]

00:58:14   gender and sexuality and turn and power [TS]

00:58:17   and things like that but that the nike [TS]

00:58:19   swoosh is that's beyond irony for me [TS]

00:58:23   so what it would that was the moment [TS]

00:58:25   when I realized that eventually the shoe [TS]

00:58:28   and because already the people that you [TS]

00:58:30   know the little brown hands in China [TS]

00:58:32   that are making nike shoes [TS]

00:58:33   are the same ones that are making a DD [TS]

00:58:35   shoes it's not like there's any it's not [TS]

00:58:38   like really the the product itself has [TS]

00:58:40   any differentiation at all it's just to [TS]

00:58:43   swoop versus the stripes and eventually [TS]

00:58:46   they will figure out a way to just sell [TS]

00:58:48   you the swoop and stand dispense with [TS]

00:58:52   this business this stupid business of [TS]

00:58:55   manufacturing shoes garbage balloon [TS]

00:58:58   shoes that that that blow away in a year [TS]

00:59:00   they'll find a way to just sell you the [TS]

00:59:02   brand now the NASCAR thing makes sense [TS]

00:59:04   so what you're saying is you get [TS]

00:59:05   whatever kind of piece of clothing you [TS]

00:59:06   want or high quality clothing doesn't [TS]

00:59:08   matter and I get your the your preferred [TS]

00:59:10   brand affiliation put on there that's [TS]

00:59:12   what there be a licensing fee for that [TS]

00:59:14   absolutely so it's going to cost you a [TS]

00:59:16   hundred dollars this it's gonna be 30 [TS]

00:59:18   bucks one way or another suit and [TS]

00:59:20   everybody's got the you know the suits [TS]

00:59:21   you can get a tailor-made you can get [TS]

00:59:23   them at the at the drugstore doesn't [TS]

00:59:24   matter the suit is it a material that's [TS]

00:59:26   exactly the point exactly the point what [TS]

00:59:29   matters is that you paid a hundred [TS]

00:59:30   dollars or a thousand dollars or [TS]

00:59:32   $100,000 to have bugatti on your suit or [TS]

00:59:38   you know whatever the Brits the brand [TS]

00:59:40   that you paid for [TS]

00:59:41   it's the licensing of the brand because [TS]

00:59:44   lily and it's a form of constraints a7 [TS]

00:59:47   good right [TS]

00:59:47   conspicuous consumption because we know [TS]

00:59:50   that we know you had to pay that [TS]

00:59:51   licensing fee that's right that's [TS]

00:59:53   exactly right and so we don't have so so [TS]

00:59:56   where we no longer have to bother with [TS]

00:59:59   this [TS]

00:59:59   this [TS]

01:00:00   stupid manufacturing of stuff and [TS]

01:00:01   shipping it back and forth across the [TS]

01:00:03   oceans on these giant ships we can just [TS]

01:00:05   you know you can just go back to a [TS]

01:00:07   situation where locally there's some [TS]

01:00:09   dumb mill that just churning out [TS]

01:00:12   unitards one after another and then you [TS]

01:00:16   customize them with your own sort of [TS]

01:00:18   like so my unitard would have a star of [TS]

01:00:21   david and a BMW logo and you know and I [TS]

01:00:27   like a filson thing across the middle [TS]

01:00:29   and then I would have you know then like [TS]

01:00:31   my favorite porn actress and who I voted [TS]

01:00:36   for in the last election you know and in [TS]

01:00:39   this sort of NASCAR patchwork and then [TS]

01:00:42   you walk out in the world everybody [TS]

01:00:44   knows where you stand everybody knows [TS]

01:00:45   who you're rooting for in the in there [TS]

01:00:47   the stick fight that's coming up you [TS]

01:00:50   hate everybody knows who you look [TS]

01:00:52   rooting for in the local stick fight in [TS]

01:00:53   the National stick fight in the inter [TS]

01:00:55   global brand stick fighting but imagine [TS]

01:00:58   that like you get to a hundred or two [TS]

01:00:59   hundred years from now however long [TS]

01:01:00   could be 50 years but imagine when the [TS]

01:01:02   materials get through to a point like [TS]

01:01:03   right now we're at the point where you [TS]

01:01:04   can get like a like a foldable screen or [TS]

01:01:07   you know you can have these curved [TS]

01:01:08   screens imagine we get to a point where [TS]

01:01:10   there could be some kind of materials [TS]

01:01:11   processing will you be able to like [TS]

01:01:13   basically rent those logos or lease [TS]

01:01:16   those logos for certain amount of time [TS]

01:01:17   making changes in real time you say you [TS]

01:01:20   see the Mariners just don't have the [TS]

01:01:21   pitching today change my logo right or [TS]

01:01:24   I'm going to a big party and I'm gonna [TS]

01:01:25   I'm gonna I'm gonna fork out the money [TS]

01:01:27   to be in louisvuitton I'll like head to [TS]

01:01:32   toe my unitard is going to switch to [TS]

01:01:34   louis vuitton branding but just for the [TS]

01:01:37   next hour and a half lime at this [TS]

01:01:38   cocktail party and then at the stroke of [TS]

01:01:40   midnight it's going to turn back into a [TS]

01:01:42   pumpkin and and you're going to see here [TS]

01:01:44   cannot see basically just that I just [TS]

01:01:48   have like shale oil not even she'll like [TS]

01:01:52   a monarch it's just a narco suit it's a [TS]

01:01:56   yeah right [TS]

01:01:57   these on your card and get reunit [TS]

01:01:59   started yeah so people are like you know [TS]

01:02:02   like wow that she's super fancy and then [TS]

01:02:06   oh yeah she's just she's just renting [TS]

01:02:08   some she's just running the branding for [TS]

01:02:10   instance that kind of its nice that's a [TS]

01:02:12   nice combo [TS]

01:02:12   asian it's a it's the kind of industry [TS]

01:02:14   you you could have had a hundred years [TS]

01:02:15   ago [TS]

01:02:16   it'sit's no I you gotta the brand [TS]

01:02:18   conscious young people you take that and [TS]

01:02:20   you combine it with inexpensive goods [TS]

01:02:22   and the rent-to-own furniture model i'm [TS]

01:02:26   not very attractive so how do we get in [TS]

01:02:28   on the ground floor of this where we're [TS]

01:02:29   actually profiting from you might need [TS]

01:02:31   to actually hire dickies okay for [TS]

01:02:34   someone like them somebody who's got [TS]

01:02:35   like was a paint store we walked by in [TS]

01:02:37   our neighborhood and they sell all the [TS]

01:02:39   different like white dickies things that [TS]

01:02:41   you can get I don't think that stuff is [TS]

01:02:42   super expensive it's not at all because [TS]

01:02:44   it's made out of it's made out of hemp [TS]

01:02:46   basically food [TS]

01:02:47   I mean that's the thing to positive is [TS]

01:02:49   good for the environment to to produce a [TS]

01:02:51   rough white garment a rough white [TS]

01:02:54   unitard is not expensive doesn't have to [TS]

01:03:01   be you could you could do that right [TS]

01:03:03   here we can be making those in [TS]

01:03:05   washington state right now the only [TS]

01:03:06   reason we're not is that we got you know [TS]

01:03:09   we got convinced that oh no we don't [TS]

01:03:10   want you know we don't want a [TS]

01:03:11   locally-made thanks Obama [TS]

01:03:13   ya nah know what I need to get this you [TS]

01:03:16   know this needs to say this needs to say [TS]

01:03:18   Ralph Lauren on it and so therefore it [TS]

01:03:21   is busy with their support companies [TS]

01:03:22   John it's ridiculous the Ralph Lauren [TS]

01:03:24   and Nike and Adidas and the National [TS]

01:03:27   Socialist it's amazing how much money [TS]

01:03:29   they have to spend overseas to get their [TS]

01:03:31   logos put on something people who give a [TS]

01:03:32   fuck [TS]

01:03:33   exactly go let's go it's just schlepping [TS]

01:03:35   schlepping schlepping I mean and the [TS]

01:03:37   things they those brands deserve our [TS]

01:03:39   respect [TS]

01:03:40   yeah we should we should not I mean the [TS]

01:03:42   last thing we need from nike gym shoes [TS]

01:03:44   nike sneakers last thing we need is the [TS]

01:03:46   actual shoe [TS]

01:03:47   they're good at the branding they're [TS]

01:03:48   obviously not great at the shoes they've [TS]

01:03:50   done an amazing job building that brand [TS]

01:03:51   why are we forcing them to continue to [TS]

01:03:54   make things a hundred percent as long as [TS]

01:03:57   long as they're being compensated [TS]

01:03:58   through the appropriate legal channels [TS]

01:03:59   and licensing agreements i think it's [TS]

01:04:01   good for everybody [TS]

01:04:03   well I'm this is where drones come in [TS]

01:04:05   let me do haha [TS]