Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► although I John I'm Merlin is going good [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► it's early [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► yeah it is early you're being a a team [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► player today you're being a little bit [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► of a team player you always a team [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► player but today you really stepped up [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► to the mic plate and I stepped up to the [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► mic plate [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► you really got your game face on and are [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► willing to put some points on that board [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► uh-huh I'm racking up the points on the [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► mic plate board whoever racks up more [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► points on the mic plate board is going [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► to be the team that wins this particular [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► game of ball that's exactly right that [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► is you know we are in the seed wherein [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► the seeds own we're totally in the [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► bracket sounds like some kind of a porno [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► I guess a sperm whale the seeds own ya [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► SE were all that a sperm whale started [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► thinking that maybe a fluffer have to a [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► few number isn't that a nice term [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► fluffer would have to be in the seeds [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► own any flooding is really a thing [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► times have changed too i think back in [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► the old days [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► fluffing was absolutely a thing but [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► nowadays all about pharmaceuticals [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► well the thing is nowadays there's a [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► whole group of people probably [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► absolutely a whole group of people that [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► what they're really into is the is the [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► fluffer girl or a boy yes you know like [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► in the old days it was like oh you're [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► not you're not ready to you're not ready [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► for prime time you're just a your [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► fluffer level but now it's great you [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► saying they could get their own [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► following like I said the cameras [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► rolling there's no there's no [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► distinction between stars fluffer now [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► you know in the can in the contemporary [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► s80 analogy question I think like the [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► journalist is to the bloggers as the [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► porn star is to the fluffer i think you [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► could probably get a hell of a following [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► today you absolutely you have a whole [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► like you know you have your own fluffer [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► channel network and and beat you with it [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► but the thing is you wouldn't even you [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► wouldn't even say like oh I was a [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► fluffer i am a flipper just be like no [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► this is this is me I'm [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► you know like I have a little bit of a [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► mustache and this is my channel haha and [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► people are like I love it I sign up for [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► that I could definitely see a reality [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► um let's see maybe called fluffy you and [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► you it would be a show about a really as [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► university that they go to learn out of [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► no well could be sure to let you [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► continue this guy for now I think it [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► would be about like following along in [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► like-for-like a lifetime kind of thing [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► that lifetime am you know like a project [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► runway cut type thing or like Rachel's [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► Oh like you follow around like not that [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► she's a fluffer but you follow around [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► one of the up-and-comers if you like [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► uh-huh or even a preeminent fluffy can [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► somebody who's at the top of the game [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► yeah somebody that slip that does like [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► the imam of fluffers [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► hey wait hang on I got it write it on [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► the sky called the comeback haha that's [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► not somebody that's what somebody i used [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► to be like the this is it one of those [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► like Debra Winger the debra winger of [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► fluffing that has to be a woman but [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► somebody who was unquestionably the top [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► fluffer in the game any sprinkles [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► fluffer you think's right fluffer [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► well but what I that's what I'm saying [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► like I'm sure the old porn stars all had [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► their all had their like understudy [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► oh it's like literally you will do well [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► I was like the flipper that kind of have [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► to travel together shove course as you [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► do [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► yeah but i mean i think what happened is [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► that I think that the comeback would [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► probably be the result if you like of [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► probably an independent documentary [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► featuring tons of porn stars from the [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► seventies talking about how nobody [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► fluffs is it would be like that movie [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► that recently came out about all the [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► back sinners exactly spans except they [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► were the they were the the foreground [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► blisters like okay if you're gonna do a [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► John Woo documentary at this point it's [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► got to either be about how food is bad [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► weed is great or about some kind of a [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► person who we didn't know we should know [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► about that now we're all crying because [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► we've learned about them [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► well that's the muscle shoals guys not [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► the you know the motors one about the [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► Motown guys write the unsung heroes of X [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► in this case it's about keeping someone [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► wrecked forefront of film the unsung [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► heroes of porn who I mean there are so [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► many ways so many documentaries you [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► could make about the unsung heroes of [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► porn think about all of the work that's [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► gone into because you know they were [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► laboring and security they were there [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► the cops were kicking down the doors [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► yeah just recently Los Angeles made it [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► made it a law that you have to wear a [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► condom now in a in a pornographic film [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► filmed in the los angeles area turns out [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► i think it's causing a brain drain or i [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► guess a wiener drain or whatever it is i [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► think that's making people want to leave [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► because they feel like they can't sell [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► that to people [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► yeah people are like I don't want to you [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► know nobody's gonna buy it [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► yeah nobody's gonna buy that for one [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► because that's not the fantasy i had a [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► UH french language and let professor in [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► college who was it [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► Madison worked in a point theatre to [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► clean up in booths [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► yeah he said it was not an it was a kind [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► of an unpleasant job i had a friend a [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► named Davey who a punk-rock Davey mm and [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► Davey when he supposed to change society [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► lady that said society baby punk-rock [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► Davey used to work in the bars in the [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► clubs but little by little I think [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► burned all his his all his bridges so [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► that he was no longer he never was a [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► bartender he was never rose above the [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► level level of bar back but uh and that [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► we another device already titles on the [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► generally the bar back but then [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► eventually Davey ended up working at the [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► apple theatre which was important [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► theater here in Seattle that's now been [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► converted into like an artisanal pork [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► bakery but at the time it was a it was [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► still showing 35-millimeter film and it [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► was like open all night [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► I guess they closed for an hour between [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► seven and eight a.m. or something like [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► that and i would sometimes go and sit [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► with Davey [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► in the projection booth and we would do [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► drugs in the point of my life to drugs [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► and and watch you know he'd be like you [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► did it was they were full-length pornos [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► so you would have to change a real [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► halfway through you know it was like it [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► was like a serious like going to the [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► movies and then and then the theater [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► would be full of people who were just [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► looking for a place to sleep like you [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► know for for the seven dollar ticket to [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► to get into the movie theater you could [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► you can spend the night in there so I [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► one of the few places on all series [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► final few places where for that amount [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► of money you could be pretty much [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► guaranteed nobody would touch you right [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► i mean that's exactly right and the [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► equivalent of like complete privacy for [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► whatever an epic a big part of the big [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► part of the of the appeal i think in the [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► waning days of a big city porn theaters [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► was just like yeah I'm just gonna for [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► seven dollars i mean you couldn't get it [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► you couldn't get a bed in a bit at the [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► st. Vincent de Paul for seven dollars [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► unless let's daddy probably well and [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► nobody's going to preach to you about [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► Jesus for an hour you don't have to go [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► through the rigmarole you just go in and [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► then just a good at his job [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► no Davy was terrible at his job I I may [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► have told you the story that Davey this [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► was you know this sense has become a [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► kind of like conventional gag because of [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► the movie fight club but Davey actually [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► would go and splice in like so it in the [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► movie Fight Club what was it that he was [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► he was splicing in porno into regular [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► films but Davey would splice in car [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► crash scenes and carnage scenes that jet [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► right at the moment of ejaculation [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► and that was a lie i believe that the [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► reason that disappeared in Fight Club is [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► that this was a projection estate game [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► that was in some ways maybe universal [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► because David was not a baby was not the [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► type of guys to like necessarily dream [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► this up all by himself [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► there was like a postmodern project [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► whereby people should notice it should [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► be like unconscious clearly subliminal [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► that he was right at the right at the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► moment of the like where the porn star [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► was like busting is not he would he [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► would put just a just an imperceptible a [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► bit of like vivisection or or car crash [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► or like autopsy footage and you know and [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► i don't know and it because that was the [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► that was the the era of up like those [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► research uh magazines where I mean maybe [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► they're buried with jg ballard's at the [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► crash pad yeah yeah PA [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► Davy had one of those bookshelves that [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► was like book autopsy photos serial [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► killer photos [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► yeah people that laid down on train [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► tracks no medical anomalies 4pm neck [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► tattoos [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► exactly yeah and-and-and I would go to [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► his house and I I be you know it was one [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► of those apartments where there was a [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► there was a bookshelf made out of cinder [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► blocks and then a mattress on the floor [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► and thence like 600 beer cans and I [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► would sit and look at his bookshelf and [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► I'm like Davy seriously like I don't [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► want to look at any of this stuff and [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► he's like are no man you gotta check it [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► out and open up some book with people [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► with elephantitis and and I'm like well [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► I seriously this is your ear you are [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► engaging in a kind of your you're [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► chasing the the punk rock dragon tail [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► and it is it's not i don't believe you [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► I think you're just afraid that things [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► were getting a little too real up that [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► is a real man that shit is real but the [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► first time he showed me like the be half [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► a foot of film [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► of some like brutal brutal murder that [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► he was splicing into these classic [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► seventies porns I was like okay I I [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► approve of that like you're doing [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► serious psychic damage to be in the [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► service of just like speed the collapse [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► and I i can't i can't find fault it's [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► kinda like reverse Ludovico technique [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► you know from clockwork orange it's a [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► museum imagine if like all the stuff we [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► saw on cinemax and showtime had [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► something similar done to it right i [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► mean you could really could really mess [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► with somebody and it would take it would [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► be real sleeper cell I think maybe [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► occupation wise this is maybe what I'm a [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► little bit worried about the last group [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► of people that need to be additionally [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► fucked with psychologically are men who [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► are sleeping in a porno theater that got [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► me thinking enough on the flakes right [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► like those are not the people that you [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► want to activate and and connect their [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► sexuality to violent crime like you know [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► I mean like all the people ray the world [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► you don't want to send out of the [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► theater with the unhealthy association [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► between orgasm and you know and mass [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► violence don't ya [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► now let's keep that one a nap the other [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► one to push someone simply apply for [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► exactly know those baby brought dayley [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► punk-rock dating David I ran into him [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► the other day I hadn't seen him in 15 [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► years who I ran into him and probably it [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► probably in the this is even this is [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► even a faux pas in punk rock circles but [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► the first thing i said was well i got i [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► can't believe you're alive haha anyway [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► like looked all offended and chocolate [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► like I have a kid I was like wow that's [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► great you you made it [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► you grew up he had a kid yeah and and [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► then i said what he doing he's like I'm [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► nothing some temp job revenant I find it [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► strange to think about me because [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► because I mean maybe probably the way it [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► came across and probably legitimately [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► you're like wow I can't believe [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► punk-rock Davey didn't get killed or [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► didn't die [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► it is only guy and yeah exactly but like [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► it's so strange to think about all the [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► people you never see this is how [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► self-involved I am is like I think about [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► the dozens or hundreds of people that i [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► have called friends over the years but [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► i'm not in close contact with are not in [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► contact with all I don't know their [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► status [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► you know it's I haven't gotten to that [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► age where you like and I read the obits [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► I flip through the alumni newsletter [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► when it arrives and find out which [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► professors have recently died that [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► always makes me sad yeah but but it's [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► strange to think that there's all these [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► people who like it would be nice to [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► think that they just got stuck on a [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► shelf somewhere and stopped aging and [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► and everything kind of stayed the same [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► because you know we we try to imagine [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► your friends today you think about the [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► park AV look different than you expected [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► because he should be 15 years younger in [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► your head right well except that punk [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► rock Davey a was punk rock so he was [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► always a little bit more Haggard looking [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► then then he should have been you little [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► shop warn ya when he was 21 years old we [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► used to joke like that 21 is like 45 in [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► punk rock earrings there but in fact he [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► made it through the looking glass and [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► now he looks amazing for like a [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► forty-four-year-old because he's you [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► know he's slim he's still he's still [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► pretty well groomed I mean he was he was [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► smoking a cigarette in the walking down [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► the street in the middle of the day and [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► I was like yeah smoking a cigarette [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► wow I like that that's still a that's [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► still think that that people can do they [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► can still be smoking cigarettes like [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► that i guess it was the amazing thing [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► was like when we were 21 [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► it was very easy for a lot of us to [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► adopt a kind of like i don't care i am [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► trying to kill myself who cares right [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► I'm just gonna just die who cares if I [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► get cancer i'm not going to live that [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► long anyway that gonna happen fast like [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► when you're 45 and you have a kid and [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► you're still like yeah whatever out his [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► keep smoking until it a brighter light [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► in here I feel like I stepped on [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► something that's like our house our [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► house it looks like like solid 13 have [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► so many bright lights because i don't [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► want to step on Lego and fall down and [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► hit my head I just glancing Lee hit the [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► edge of the tape [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► blind eye and a freak accident there it [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► is that's it that's punk rock now [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► whatever happened to Merlin oh yeah he [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► slipped on a gummy bear fell down the [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► stairs little tiny Brown Legos [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► yep he had a premonition yeah he stepped [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► on it got lodged under his toenail and [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► then he died of an infection i do think [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► about I don't talking about cause it [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► freaked me out but I i do sometimes [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► think we'll see things unrelated out [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► first of all I don't want to die in a [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► freaky way if it can be avoided [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► I would rather not die in some ways it's [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► super hard to explain I don't wanna die [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► at all if I could avoid it but you know [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► I understand it's probably you know [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► somebody has to deal with eventually or [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► something that's a little harder to the [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► second part is a little harder to [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► maintain but also i mean you know I this [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► dig in and this is just a credit to my [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► incredible level of self-absorption that [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► I don't periodically just stop and think [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► I wonder if my friends who were my age [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► and high school are my age now [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► oh yeah in my head they're there maybe [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► 30 they maybe they added a couple belt [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► notches what skills and their old people [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► it seems the user this like this Vulcan [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► meaning that happens to men when but [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► it's just like you seems probable they [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► come in the the inter like sting and [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► exit like burying our Conan like it [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► would be and I don't understand how got [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► you see them and and it's like okay you [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► didn't get fat you're not fat now but [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► somehow you look you look wider in every [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► respect your neck is wider like cottager [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► how did your skull get wider yes they [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► just look they look like stretch to see [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► like a pair of pair of eyes a pair of a [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► 19-year old pair of eyes somewhere in [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► there looking out buried in a yeah and [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► I'm you immediately meet mask of shit [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► but well I was at the i was at the [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► playground the other day and there were [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► a bunch of dads and they were playing [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► baseball they were teaching their sons [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► to play baseball and the sun's ranged in [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► age I think the youngest was probably 4 [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► and the whole this was maybe six or [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► seven and it wasn't t-ball that the dad [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► was there was there was a a beardy dad [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► and he was actually pitching the ball [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► and these kids were getting hits running [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► the bases they were fielding like that [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► this was a dedicated [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► a group of dads who were like on the [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► field with their kids like you know go [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► let's do it you know throw to second [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► throw to second I mean it wasn't like it [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► wasn't nobody was like really yelling at [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► the kids but they were taking baseball [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► something very focused like where [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► there's a game we're playing here [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► there's a structure to this you must [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► address this is how you you need to [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► learn this game if you're going to be a [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► boy in the world and so i'm watching [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► this game and I'm thinking like a thank [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► God I have a daughter so that I don't [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► have to be so I feel no pressure to be [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► down yelling at her to like round [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► seconds right but also watching the dads [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► I was like wait a minute [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► these guys are my age like some of these [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► guys are younger than me even [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► and they all look old they never liked [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► that guy looks exactly like Bob Balaban [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► and he's totally younger than me look at [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► the van last I look like the bad guy [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► that guy over there like yeah he looks [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► like Tony millionaire like this guy [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► looks like Bukowski and these people are [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► these are my peers and they're yelling [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► at their kid about baseball and yeah and [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► then I did I suddenly like it was one of [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► those things where I looked at my [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► reflection in a puddle of the guard [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► escort think that you just as the just [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► slightly undulating I was like wait a [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► minute into the image the image that [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► water stills I'm not all like that [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► they're so that I didn't have to sit [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► down had to sit down and take a to get [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► my inhaler out so yeah terrifying saw [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► definitely diggin on Portlandia he looks [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► amazing but don't is really easy i like [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► the way that guy carries himself and [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► he's carved out of mahogany me who he is [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► a suave motherfuckers just say he's very [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► looks very slender and very fit and he [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► just seems very focused i really admire [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► it he's extremely focused and and a very [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► bright [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► he's very bright guy yeah and you know [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► and in some ways like maybe he would be [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► a great [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► example of like a hollow of a of a [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► fitness a mentor [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► it's like okay Duff is stuff is 50 now [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► and still in amazing shape and still [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► like youthful in every regard like don't [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► don't let yourself turn into Bukowski [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► supplemented esa instead chase after the [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► shooting star of definite case the Duff [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► yeah yeah you remember that old anecdote [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► about the two guys are going to the [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► theoretical jungle on that needs [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► Tigerstar's Karen asked ordem and [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► theoretical tiger [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► yes the theoretical tiger of the [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► anecdote and now we'll get you running [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► any other guys what are you doing [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► you're not going out on a tiger he says [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► I don't have to but I just got outrun [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► yeah I said that's actually in Alaska we [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► say out running out on the bear huh you [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► don't run the bear if you stepped on run [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► you through a great gag sorry that [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► over-explain oh thank you thank you for [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► clarifying that [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► um but I just gotta say I think that [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► when you get to be like any kind of an [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► agent guru or or sports person or [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► anything someone they were you really [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► like part of what you do requires that [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► somebody look up to you i think you just [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► need to look a little better than most [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► other people like if you're a guru like [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► if you're the thing is think about like [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► cannot check later that's gonna create [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► an example but like you know you don't [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► have to be there are so many [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► categorically handsome people in their [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► twenties and thirties and I've never [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► really drops off after 40 [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► well here's an interesting thing I [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► experienced the other day I went to a [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► meeting downtown and with the mayor of [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► Seattle it was our my first official [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► meeting with the mayor john goes to the [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► mayor john goes to the bear and I'm [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► there with the rest of the Seattle music [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► commission so there's like 10 of us on [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► one side of the table and then the mayor [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► the deputy mayor the assistant deputy [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► mayor the assistant deputy the deputy [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► mayor [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► they're all on one of the other side of [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► the table and we're talking about [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► striking out Seattle we're talking about [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► the future of Seattle some of the [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► waterfront talked about a lot of big [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► projects schools cellphone and in [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► anticipation of going downtown I put on [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► a suit because a I collect suits even [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► though i have no use for them and be [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► because I don't work I spend most of the [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► day just naked walking around in a [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► bathrobe swinging a sword and so when I [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► have a reason to consider many of [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► America's unemployed but I have a reason [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► to go down [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► I can't bring a sword to the mayor's [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► office first of all and it's like oh I'm [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► going downtown I have a meeting i'm [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► going to put on a suit I'm gonna like be [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► a guy who gets dressed up in as close to [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► go down to have an important meeting [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► with everybody so I get there and the [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► first thing about living in the West San [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► Francisco is the same in seattle in this [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► regard is that really you judge the most [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► important person in the room by how [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► shabbily he's dressed right like the [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► millions of the billionaires in seattle [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► all show up to the finest restaurants in [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► town in cargo shorts and fleece check [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► its it sounds like a really stupid [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► cliche but in my experience it's very [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► true [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► yea even even like another scene like I [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► couldn't pick Paul Allen out of a lineup [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► but even when you see guys who like an [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► adventure capital places [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► sure you might seem just wearing fleece [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► but you're never going to see them [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► wearing like a three-piece suit that [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► that looks like somebody trying to get a [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► job [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► yeah Paul Allen looks like a the the [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► pile of clothes at the bottom of the [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► locker like Paul Allen just is like a [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► bit too he's just a pile wherever he [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► goes and that's true of everybody like [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► you going to you go into a nice [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► restaurant in Seattle and the [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► best-dressed people in there are the [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► waiters you know right and so I'm [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► sitting in this i'm sitting in this [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► meeting and I've got a tie and a shirt [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► and a and a and [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► suit and some nice shoes and I comb my [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► hair and I'm looking around and [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► everybody else on the music panel uh you [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► know looks like a looks like a dump [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► truck ran into a hot topic haha and the [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► mayor and his like people who have to [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► wear suits are wearing the I have to [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► wear a suit suit you know there's a kind [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► of suit that there's a kind of suit that [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► a public server blade is the kind of [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► thing like the costume that your [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► professor wears to graduation like [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► represents their University you know [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► talking about yeah it's pretty looking [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► like Oxford thing with a funny hat [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► medallion [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► yeah I would never wear this unless I [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► absolutely had to yeah he's got 11 gold [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► stripes on one side and 14 purple [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► stripes on the other receptor so what [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► these suits i'm studying the suits of [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► the bear and his staff and what the [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► suits are meant to communicate is I am [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► required to wear a suit out of respect [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► for the office but I'm also a man of the [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► people and so I'm not wearing a nice [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► suit or a fancy suit or like a certainly [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► not a chic suit i am wearing a I'm [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► wearing unaffordable suit EG Telegraph [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► many different messages up and down and [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► sideways by what you choose to where you [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► have to it's really it's really politic [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► about what you wear right so let's [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► simply just you want to look powerful [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► you can't look too powerful exactly and [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► when you see a politician or you know [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► about a person in public service who was [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► wearing a really nice suit like an [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► expensive slick suit you automatically [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► distrust that person and the ill-fitting [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► cheap suit kind of is a nanite and I [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► think even even when politicians get to [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► be like very very powerful rich people [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► who are having suits made for them they [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► get them made in a kind of boxy cut with [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► an unfashionable line you know I mean [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► that's a shiny nobody's getting really a [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► mom [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► mr. right you don't want to look like a [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► monster but you also don't want to look [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► like yeah you don't want to look like [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► you're to Hollywood [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► so anyway I'm sitting in this meeting [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► and I'm looking around and I'm like I am [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► a fucking bar be in here I i am the I'm [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► the person that everyone in the room is [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► going to instinctively take less [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► seriously because I got dressed up for [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► this meeting and in fact got dressed up [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► in the style of a person that never gets [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► to wear his fancy fancy clothes so I'm [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► hear him by i'm here in my suit with my [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► I'm wearing it like a you know I wore a [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► collar bar and I wore on time in and I [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► you know I'm like I'm fucking paul f [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► tompkins in here the only thing missing [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► is a watch fob and I realized like oh I [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► can't keep doing this because I you know [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► I I want to walk up to the mirror after [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► this and tell him my plan for a new [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► police academy that I have that I've [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► been slowly percolating in my mind and [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► and they're just not going to their [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► instinctively going to dismiss me as a [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► as a pop or yes let's say like a [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► Victorian avoid going to a fancy feet [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► exactly what I'm what I'm trad [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► telegraphing is that I am an amateur and [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► and I look around at the rest of the the [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► music Commission and everybody's like [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► you know there's a guy who when he was [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► buttoning a shirt he got the buttons [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► wrong so it's like it [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► this is one button is up above his [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► collar and one is down you know and [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► there and and like the gals are all [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► sheep but they're all chic you know kind [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► of comfortable with that answer [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► that's so super tricky what kind of [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► person shoes and like like it there's so [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► much that people especially other women [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► can read into somebody's stressed and [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► what they are trying to Telegraph the [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► thing is exclusively other women men [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► have no like I am pretty fashion aware [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► and I have their I'm capable of decoding [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► at all and ninety-nine percent of the [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► men in the world who are just wearing [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► white athletics you like oh that that [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► looks really sharp like her clothes fit [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► and she looks awesome [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► but I'm 11000 mark that's Marc by Marc [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► Jacobs ya gonna do what I mean you're [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► really wearing topshop to this event [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► Wow molds or whatever game they're [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► playing with each other but I mean no [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► they they all look great but none of [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► them are none of them are pretty what [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► they are projecting is we are women in [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► powerful positions in our respective our [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► respective realms and so we do not have [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► to wear like way better have to look [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► like like Sigourney Weaver in working [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► girl right the stuff has to be tailored [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► enough just enough because we live in [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► Seattle yeah and so so now i'm now I [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► have this additional I was having a lot [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► of fun the last couple of years like [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► buying suits at thrift stores i would [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► find these old suits and be like this [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► suit is amazing i have to have it and I [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► would take it and then I got a tailor [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► and I was like you got a tailored suit [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► because I wanted to be like this and the [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► entire time conscious of course but [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► there's no occasion for me to wear a [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► suit [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► ninety-eight percent of the time I you [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► know I I mean certainly around the house [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► I'm I'm just dressed like a saturday [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► night live cast member in 1977 and then [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► when i go out that cocaine sink a [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► topknot and a cocaine sink and then when [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► i go out i'm i'm generally like head to [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► toe in wall because I'm never sure that [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► that an electromagnetic pulse isn't [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► gonna knock out all the computers that [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► run our cars and smart and I'm gonna [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► have to make it to the amount have to [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► make it to the hill country before [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► people start eating each other not gonna [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► wear a fucking suit if it's got to its [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► subtle what [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► so what are my occasions to wear a suit [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► I thought oh now I'm a big shot in the [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► city government right now and now I [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► can't wear suits to that either but you [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► might like email look at you thinking [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► hey you're probably thinking like you [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► might look a little eccentric or [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► artistic but that's the environment [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► right it's all right isn't that but it's [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► nice to come up costumey do you think [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► was a [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► old beyond costumey but here's the funny [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► thing I've been going to these cocktail [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► parties or having meetings with the [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► people on the Art Commission and I [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► realized the people on the Art [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► Commission are all dressed like it like [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► we're in a Fellini movie like the music [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► Commission the music Commission just [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► they grab their clothes from the free [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► pile as they're leaving their apartment [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► building on the way to work like Oh idea [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► scarf what's in the free pile of the [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► Arts Commission like dudes are seriously [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► wearing a Scots models but people have [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► those Italian shoes that are so pointy [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► that they become like like polly achi [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► shoes right i mean so really the people [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► that I need to cuddle up to or the arts [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► people like you know painters and and [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► and the like the Opera people or [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► whatever they really dress like like [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► fruit cakes because it's what I not [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► mention that much at stake at this means [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► i'm guessing [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► oh no people you know this is this has [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► to be true in San Francisco to I think [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► it's true all around the world but [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► whatever it was 25 years ago when they [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► started started instituting that one [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► percent for art business it's like well [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► we're going to rebuild the freeway and [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► it's a 500 million dollar project and [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► the legislature put this one percent for [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► art clause in all public projects which [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► means one percent of the total budget of [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► like epic projects has to be set aside [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► for there to be an art component right [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► which is why there's so much [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► publicly-funded massive sculpture in big [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► cities like you go downtown it's like [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► wow there's a huge stainless steel donut [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► now in front of the city hall where did [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► that come from and why it's like oh [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► because we because we built a tunnel [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► under the bay and it costs a billion [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► dollars and so I [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► up one percent of that was yeah you know [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► it's like a rounding error that's that's [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► pretty serious doubt for that kind of [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► community millions and millions and so [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► that and then of course it's like oh [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► this is for art and immediately no one [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► want you know I immediately like no one [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► in government wants to have anything to [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► do with it because art is a lightning [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► rod from for people to be furious and so [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► that's why you even have a heart [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► Commission you put a bunch of people in [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► a Scots around a table and you and you [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► dump this this uh I got like a logic [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► basket full of money [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► yeah like a duffel bag full of cash and [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► you're like okay this is that this is [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► the rounding error from the latest [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► tunnel project figure out how to [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► disperses and then these guys you know [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► and they all have their that they have [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► glad they're all wearing glasses that [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► make my most outrageous pair of glasses [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► look like something from front that's [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► something that you've got a costco like [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► you know guys that speak with the time [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► axis that have classes that are bigger [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► than their head and there then so they [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► the Arts Commission has cash they have [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► real money interesting and they and we [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► be incredible you're queer community [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► interfacing with them our committee is [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► interfacing I had a cat are you [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► Entre Nous with them well it is where a [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► little where we are trying to the new [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► are trying to entree with them in the [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► sense that they have seniority the Arts [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► Commission is 50 years old whereas the [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► music Commission is five years old so [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► there's a little bit of they don't they [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► don't appear to be condescending to us [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► but there is a little bit of like they [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► have a long history of dealing with lots [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► and lots of money and we are just like [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► hey one of the things you could do with [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► that money is given to us [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► and then that then there's a long pause [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► everybody looks at their fingernails [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► we'll see we'll see what I've got to [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► establish myself as a serious member of [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► this organization in order that that [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► some of my larger plans be put into [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► place and I'm not going to get there by [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► like mincing in my would like but my [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► lavender shirt in my collar bar love [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► that word [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► I'm gonna have to i'm gonna have to [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► start you know what it is i think i [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► might wear a suit but not a tie that [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► communicates that communicates a lot of [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► this like a little bit mr. Furley well [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► no I'm not wearing a leisure see ok just [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► one piece suit [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► hi no I'm gonna like we're gonna we're [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► exes a sharp suit but then my shirt open [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► and that's the kind of like yeah I know [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► you just mean like one button [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► yeah I'm not like open to my table i [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► don't know i think that that that's [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► something they're gonna have to really [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► think about if they see the heck they [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► would have to think if you look really [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► good in your shoes are shined like you [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► saying your hair's your shirt is open to [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► your navel in meetings to discuss on [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► away scratching yourself but what's a [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► good talk about the easement for how [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► could we should talk about my plan for [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► the police [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► you're all under arrest I have a very [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► good plan for the police [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► haha no really do you know we talked [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► about the police not very long ago yeah [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► we got a lot of nice feedback about that [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► i have a pea that but but strangely none [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► from police fraternal organizations [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► great [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► but my plan my plan for the police for [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► Seattle and I think this i think this [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► will work all across the country is I [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► think part of the problem of the [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► militarization of the police has been [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► the suburbanization of the police the [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► cops when you when you when you talk to [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► any individual Cobb the cops and the [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► firemen all live in the suburbs now [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► they didn't get away from the crime [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► exactly they pursue the American Dream [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► and cop culture and firemen culture is [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► suburbanite culture which is [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► intrinsically suspicious of people who [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► live in the city and you know and it [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► fosters a kind of racist like outer rain [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► contempt and dislike for poor people and [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► people who live in town and so my plan [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► for the for the modernization and like [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► read integration of the cops is that [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► every city should build a police academy [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► in the heart of town room because the [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► magnet school kind of thing right [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► exactly like I think part of the problem [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► with the cops too is that we've started [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► to think about police as being a job [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► that requires a four-year degree and [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► this is this is a subset of a larger [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► problem which is the inflation the [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► four-year degree inflation we're now [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► like if you want to if you want to [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► manage a ziebart you have to have a [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► four-year degree like if you want to if [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► you want to be the person in charge of [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► the Froyo machine at the at the cold [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► stone creamery after four year degree if [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► you want anything that requires a key [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► right pretty much you won't ever bring [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► your keys and just anything like we're [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► let you have anything that isn't like [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► when i worked at McDonald's and there's [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► a button you hit that within which means [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► i put the meat down and we'll tell you [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► when it's time to flip it was [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► somersaulted and so on so forth [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► it was actually literally idiot-proof if [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► you want a job more than that today you [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► can get a college degree and that's [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► really fucked up [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► it's really fucked up because a you [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► don't need a college degree had be also [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► guarantee of anything it's not and then [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► what what that massive influx of people [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► in colleges has done is make colleges [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► worthless like colleges are doing [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► college job now and and and and it [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► became a thing I think it became a thing [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► in the last 50 years that that people in [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► politics were able to say like college [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► we want everyone to have an opportunity [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► to go to college and it was a it was an [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► easy thing to say a harder thing to do [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► but it was a thing that it was a thing [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► in public life that they could direct [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► money and resources and a lot of like a [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► lot of glad-handing attention to [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► we're going to make colleges accessible [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► to everyone and so what they did was not [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► make a a grand college education [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► accessible to everyone they just make [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► college stupid so that everybody could [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► get into it and so my thinking is one of [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► the things that we don't need is cops [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► that went to college [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► really they don't need to go to college [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► they need to go to a great police [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► academy right a curriculum / me huh [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► would be with the police academy located [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► in the center of town in the heart of [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► town so that every day you see the young [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► police treat trainees in there [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► what I would hope would be like easter [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► egg colored sweats and they're running [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► up and they're doing their calisthenics [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► and you're starting out with a little [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► bit of humility is that the idea you [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► know what I mean breaking down to earth [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► they're running around the town they're [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► doing a literal funny years with a badge [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► on them they're doing they're doing [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► their pull-ups or whatever in the bus [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► stations and we and we all get to see [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► the young tops and training and they are [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► living with us and their dormitories are [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► right there in the town and so by the [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► time I by the time a young police person [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► an aspiring police person graduates to [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► become a badge officer [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► they are inculcated in the language and [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► culture of the city they intend to [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► police there already and a resident of [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► an urban neighborhood that's right they [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► live in the town and they are their [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► members of the town and they have [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► trained in the town so they're not out [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► at some firing range boot camp out in [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► BFE right and they're not they're not [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► being indoctrinated into a culture that [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► lives outside of the city and is and is [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► inherently hostile to the city so [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► interesting because it really is it's [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► like something from a Bruce Lee movie [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► where you go to this almost like this [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► guarded temple and everything happens in [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► private be very interesting to have [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► something not just on honestly not just [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► in into like embarrassed people or [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► something but be kind of interesting to [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► have in the middle of the city and where [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► people could observe it while it's [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► happening exactly by transparency [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► because the concept of policing is is [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► very very basic like the cops themselves [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► are not do not have power their power is [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► the power that we grab them to police us [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► because we need it because we are big [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► monkeys and so we say collectively yes [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► we need someone to call we need to we [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► need to put somebody in a position where [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► we can call them and we need help and [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► these are the people who you know we're [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► going to a point to that we want them to [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► be young and strong and fleet of foot [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► and but also like smart enough and [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► empowered just enough to be able to make [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► judgment calls but just be people and [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► we're going to be smarter people write [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► this the people part is important and [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► even though we acknowledge yeah I [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► precisely and I mean even though we [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► acknowledge that we want to be police we [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► went up by these rules and we want [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► recourse if something happens i think [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► that it's also it's it doesn't mean that [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► we're prepared you know so much 0 or 1 [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► black-and-white kind of thinking about [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► these things [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► it's not saying that we are willingly ok [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► when in exchange we will no longer have [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► a civil society where we understand what [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► rules are enforced the way they are like [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► if I want if I'm gonna be able to call [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► somebody when somebody steals my [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► marijuana [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► I somebody like parked in my space that [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► means i'm willing to live in a police [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► state [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► that's well yeah right exactly at that's [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► what John has pretty good [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► well then what got me thinking was I was [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► I was driving along the other day with [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► my daughter and every time a fire truck [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► goes by or policemen goes by with their [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► lights on she's very curious what's [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► going on and I always say well the [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► fireman is going to help somebody or the [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► policeman is going to help somebody and [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► all of that is part of the part of the [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► like cultural relation that happened to [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► me when I was growing up which is to be [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► taught that the police are there to help [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► you and the firemen are there to help [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► you get help and protect you something [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► happens but you also wanted to know that [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► if something happens you can go to [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► somebody in a uniform and tell them [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► about it exactly like the police on the [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► fire department are our friends and they [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► are there to help us so i'm driving [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► along i'm describing the store and she [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► knows this pretty well now and then I [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► realize the tremendous gulf between the [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► experience that I've had my whole life [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► even even during the many years when I [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► was like fuck the police man believes [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► you but you look in cops man who are [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► like trying to like come down on us in [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► like you know they represent the man and [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► come down on us [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► yeah Freddy hops man even all those [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► years when I was like when I was [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► socially hostile to the cops as part of [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► my rock and roll under underbelly like I [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► also understood very clearly that [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► recourse to the law was a thing that [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► what was a was not a right but that it [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► it it involved it was it was a [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► participatory [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► aspect of citizenship and if you were [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► ever going to call the cops you had [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► better also hold up your end of the [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► bargain by being a like for the most [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► part law abiding and a citizen and and [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► the and the contempt i have for most [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► people is the selective citizenship [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► words like they call the cops and the [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► fire department when they need help but [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► then they refused to pay their taxes or [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► they're both they're you know they're [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► bullies or they are greedy or they are [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► cheaters in every other aspect of expect [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► they expect to be extraordinarily [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► protected by the police what other [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► people are basically exposed to whatever [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► kind of Russia kicking punk flipping [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► bullshit people feel like doing on a [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► given Saturday night [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► right right i mean isn't that kind of it [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► that's the real inequality in some ways [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► is I get extraordinary protection [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► because of this and you get treated that [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► way because well because of that right [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► and and what and I guess the what was [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► happening to me the other day the brain [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► flip that I was experiencing was I was [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► sitting here teaching my daughter this [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► thing that I feel is fundamental which [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► is the police and fire departments are [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► there to help you and then I reflected [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► upon the fact that there are large [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► communities of citizens in my own City [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► who do not see the police that way and [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► that the father's in those communities [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► are forced to teach their daughters a [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► healthy suspicion of the police like be [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► careful around the police is kind of the [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► gentlest way that they probably have to [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► describe it and I'm sure there are [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► plenty of families where the lesson from [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► a very young ages avoid the police at [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► all costs like the police are not your [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► friends the police will hurt you if they [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► get a chance to see a kind of a kind of [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► them sleeping giant like the right don't [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► don't just better better to just go take [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► care of this yeah because executive [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► consequences way beyond getting your [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► redress if you have problems call a [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► family member call you know like run to [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► someone who looks like us but whatever [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► you do do not attract the attention of [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► the police because it never ends well [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► and to imagine to imagine you know [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► myself sharing a city and a culture and [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► anna and a civic life with with groups [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► of fellow Americans who do not have the [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► same recourse to the law and do not feel [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► this do not feel that the police are [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► there to help them in my hand and as as [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► my daughter gets older I will for sure [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► say like don't mouth off to the police [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► the police are the police are idiots [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► let's be honest like they are typically [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► 24 year olds with criminal justice [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► degrees who have been who are in culture [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► rated to be unreflecting with father [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► issues right there like I'm going to [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► think that sometimes like you I [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► absolutely they're there they're working [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► out something way beyond criminal [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► justice right now [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► well and the and the problem is that [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► within the culture that is teaching them [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► and training them that is encouraged you [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► know that their lieutenants and their [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► captains also have not been fully [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► culture ated they have a they've been [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► allowed to maintain its the problem with [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► the CIA the CIA isn't is somewhat an [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► independent organization and the prayer [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► and they nominally answer to the [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► president but in fact presidents come [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► and go and the CIA remains and so the [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► CIA is not and does not feel answerable [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► to anybody and it maintains this inner [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► culture that over time has become [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► infected and now CIA is separate from [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► the the separate from the balance of [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► power that keeps our governments table [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► and and they become and and then they [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► end up as a rogue organization and to [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► bring them to heel requires it like an [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► incredible amount of will from the [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► Congress and and the executive and it's [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► a it's it's will bit so do they sell [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► them Express you know and and it's going [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► to take a certain amount of what feels [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► like futzing around where rather just [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► waiting for something [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► it's a huge problem that now we have to [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► cover up or whatever to have an ongoing [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► and get that were transparency and [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► ongoing sense that like we need to [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► really know what's happening and we need [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► to tell people what's happening and we [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► need to make sure that it's what we told [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► people was going to happen right and [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► there needs to be actual effective [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► oversight civilian oversight of these [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► Affairs that is that is 100-percent like [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► a it is not it is not sufficient that [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► your organization investigate itself and [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► declare that you that you have I mean [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► this happens in the Seattle Police [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► Department all the time it happens in [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► the CIA all the time right let's look [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► for security reasons we can't show you [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► what the results are but we'll just tell [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► you turned out great [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► yeah we did an investigation of that [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► thing and we do is we determined that [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► everybody acted properly and except for [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► there was one thing that we could have [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► done better and the appropriate measures [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► were taken and it's just like okay no no [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► no and and two to fire everybody is to [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► just to fire everybody the top is to [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► just then promote the lieutenant's up [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► who raised in the same in the same so [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► what a terrible stuff that I'm and that [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► is that if you think about it that this [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► problem is so out of control that I [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► can't manage anymore so i have to fire [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► everyone and start over but also that [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► well say anything like that be [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► acceptable right and and the only reason [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► that the only reason that we're in that [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► situation is that these organizations [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► continue to recruit and and [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► indoctrinated generation after [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► generation into this into what is [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► essentially like an 11 [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► they are an unbeaten hold and culture [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► anyway so my plan for the my plan [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► long-term for urban police departments [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► is to reintegrate them into urban life [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► and novel and and and ultimately like if [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► you want a promotion in the seattle City [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► Police Department live in Seattle if you [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► want to if you want to get your sergeant [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► stripes live in Seattle don't live in [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► issaquah if you live in issaquah want to [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► join the fucking issaquah police [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► department [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► if you want to live work in the Seattle [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► Police Department and you don't want to [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► live in seattle then we then you're not [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► sergeant material not lieutenant [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► material and that seems like in some [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► ways fundamental I have a good friend [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► who works in the Seattle Fire Department [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► he's a close friend and he describes the [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► culture in the fire stations as because [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► a lot of these guys they're mustache [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► guys you know what I mean they're moving [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► they're living out there living on an [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► acre and a half that they're buying with [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► their you know what their inflated Union [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► salaries and they're out there just a [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► quick message on your listening to the [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► pacifica radio network of this is we are [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► picmonkey with a number on the back [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► after this word from police [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► ah but he characterizes the Seattle [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► Police Department in her culture as [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► being light up like a basically redneck [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► redneck and prepare their mustache guys [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► and they're like you know they go they [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► and and and it's a hard job right there [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► getting people dialing 911 right and a [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► lot of people are dialing 911 just [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► because they're lonely and rather than [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► make friends they pretend they're having [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► a heart attack so that some firemen will [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► come and pet their hair like I remember [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► that one [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► you should try it the good one you know [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► Merlin I call 911 all the time but it's [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► the things are going I got just a report [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► like hey i saw hey i saw a pigeon that [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► was limping hey it's Merlin on [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► hey what's up um I don't have a problem [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► yet about i just wanted to give you an [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► update on a couple front of the fence is [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► still an issue it's leaning a little bit [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► i've had a lot of coffee today I've had [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► so much coffee today I just the [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► self-harm [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► so anyway that's my that's my project [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► that's my reform project but i'm not [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► going to get that i'm not going to get [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► that happening if I'm wearing a tie bar [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► at these meetings in the music committee [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► mr. Roderick is it about these [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► applications and talk but you bring to [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► the fore but don't know someone in this [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► particular the community however so we [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► thank you very much for standing up at [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► this meeting mr. archive ask you just to [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► write all these down and capture more [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► people we're going to pass that along to [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► reinvent community right now haven't we [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► are discussing parking didn't kill your [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► parking George outside showbox looks [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► like that was that was a window right [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► you guys get one man's dedicated parking [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► zone clearly marked you know in in a [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► city you know city lives and dies by its [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► parking boot so in a city if you can get [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► if you can get a handle on the parking [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► if you get if you get your hands around [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► the parking the rest will follow [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► that's right you end up in charge us [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► Clinton said that I believe that's good [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► that's really true it's a that's that's [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► the thing that's why I didn't mean to [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► sound glib about the artistic people [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► with Fellini glasses but in in your case [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► like we help people must take what you [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► guys have to say Skynet is seriously [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► because you're influential people but [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► also it is a there's some commerce [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► involved right it isn't just spending [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► money on a giant bow and arrow you know [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► look at UC San Francisco but the public [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► art is important but but in this case it [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► is also commerce and things that Seattle [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► is well known for like music [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► well yeah I the you don't exaggerate [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► that too much that right but the the [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► problem is that mrs. the thing I think I [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► probably mentioned this before like when [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► though when the Rolling Stones played at [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► the Kingdome [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► there were 50,000 people there and [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► everybody was like that's incredible [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► 50,000 people came to see the rolling [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► stones but then the following wednesday [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► 50,000 people were there to see the [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► seahawks lose to the bears and you [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► realize oh right 50,000 people there to [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► see The Rolling Stones happens once but [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► 50,000 people come to watch that stupid [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► football team again like week every week [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► and and then there's 60,000 people [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► watching the baseball team and a million [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► more in the region Washington on TV and [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► you get a sense that music is me at this [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► is this is very complicated from from [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► the standpoint of a musician but like [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► music is important to us in name only [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► really you know every single person at [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► that football game has heard the rolling [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► stones but like they probably are only [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► earned they don't own three different [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► $60 Rolling Stones jerseys and registers [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► that they're not paying for an iphone [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► app that lets them watch The Rolling [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► Stones every single time that they [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► perform at all [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► that's a really interesting way to look [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► at it and I get into this with people [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► all the time where they're like blah [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► blah albums blah blah music should be [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► free blah blah blah blah blah and I say [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► you know an album a record album that [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► took a year to make cost ten dollars on [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► itunes and it's a record that you may [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► listen to a 500 times in your life as [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► many times you want a device that you've [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► got forever for a ten-dollar ten dollars [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► or you're going to see a movie for [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► fourteen dollars and the movie you will [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► watch once and it lasts an hour [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► and yet people go see movies you know [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► without reflecting and yet buying an [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► album seems like a big like I don't know [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► if I want to go by that album [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► jeez you know like buying an album is is [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► some kind of big investment and so so [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► music is like for those of us who live [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► in in the music world and think about [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► music [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► um it's it's of this its kind of has [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► this preeminent importance but really [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► the way we value it culturally is like [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► it is though it is window dressing [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► ultimately and so when we try and make [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► an economic argument for music it is [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► legit [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► music is a an economic driver but the [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► mayor is leaving the meeting with us and [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► he's going to meet with the [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► representatives of the construction [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► Union and it's just like yeah okay well [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► who we are where were drop in the bucket [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► even if you extend the the reasoning and [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► I think it's powerful reasoning like why [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► do people come to Seattle to work at [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► Microsoft if they could if they can go [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► live in palo alto or san jose why would [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► they choose to come work at amazon or a [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► Seattle tech company and the reason that [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► most of them say is well I want to like [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► Seattle culture i want to be a part of [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► seattle culture [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► uh-huh i want to go to shows i want to [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► be part of the the [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► vibrant kind of musical cultural milia [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► that doesn't exist in san jose and has [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► been in a lot of ways priced out of San [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► Francisco again you can't start a band [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► in san francisco now your boots 5001 [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► through unless you would like to live [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► closer to san jose and Oakland yeah [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► you'd be in oakland right which is a [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► real city [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► Oakland is a fairly fairly real city and [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► super real city hope opens getting a [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► priced out to carry out there so so you [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► can drastically make that economic [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► impact argument to the mayor all the [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► time like what [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► time like what [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► and when people fill out surveys why did [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► I moved to Seattle music is always right [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► at the top of the list but again it's [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► intangible right [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► I you know I i have so many blind spots [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► and cataracts in my life but I feel like [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► two giant cultural holes in my life [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► probably my detriment our video games [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► and sports and videogames I just a [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► couple video games to play on my phone [TS]

01:00:25 ◼   ► but compared to anybody my age or [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► younger completely off my radar screen i [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► just it is it really it's not even like [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► hospital thing with video games really [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► is it just an eye [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► I'm not interested like it i don't i [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► don't care i don't care about sports [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► I'm actively against sports in some ways [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► but those two things failing to really [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► grok what those two industries uber [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► industries really means to stop 1f when [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► it does occur to me I realize how dumb I [TS]

01:00:51 ◼   ► am because I had never put sports even [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► in the same i never i just don't think [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► about supports it just doesn't i just i [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► mainly I think about sports somebody [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► mentioned sports i got we're talking [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► about sports that's really dorky but in [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► this case it's so interesting to think [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► about how much money passes through that [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► town whenever there's a sports game [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► going on [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► it's a it's really amazing to think that [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► she thinks like convention and visitors [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► bureau right where you get all this big [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► hit of like 5,000 people going to come [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► stay at all these hotels and stuff like [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► that but i'm guessing i mean your sports [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► teams do pretty well right [TS]

01:01:24 ◼   ► oh let me see our sports teams [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► I just want a you guys want to make [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► things less yeah there was a big Super [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► Bowl that we want okay sorry sorry i'm [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► sorry i was then and see this is the [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► problem one of the teams that we that we [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► massacred that we really just destroyed [TS]

01:01:43 ◼   ► humiliated in fact yes so that the city [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► that that team hails from has to spend [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► than the next year just reflects in San [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► Francisco inferiority yeah that's really [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► sad now that's really rough i said i [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► prize at an all-time low now that I've [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► learned we lost the Super Bowl there [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► there are a couple of people I think [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► that listen to the show even play that [TS]

01:02:07 ◼   ► game to see how we can go without [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► learning who won the superbowl no no [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► couple people who listen to the show who [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► are right now so mad at me that i have [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► reminded them all the time and [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► podcasting on [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► so anyway but that shouldn't you know [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► the thing is it is fascinating to think [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► about because you know in my head you go [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► like Seattle let's take our time let's [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► take our you know we think about why you [TS]

01:02:30 ◼   ► bring a convention to a town I bet [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► there's OS been felt like an iceberg [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► where we only see the top 10% or [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► whatever it's really so many different [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► dealings and things that go into why [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► somebody ends up in Las Vegas vs. New [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► York vs. philadelphia or wherever but if [TS]

01:02:44 ◼   ► you have to like socialize it with your [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► group and go hey you know we could do [TS]

01:02:48 ◼   ► this in Seattle right and their sports [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► ball team won the superbowl like we [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► should go there and they'd be like yeah [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► we could totally catch a new ball game [TS]

01:02:56 ◼   ► that will show their will see some new [TS]

01:02:58 ◼   ► ball was gonna throw the fish being dead [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► serious emotional bond serious way [TS]

01:03:03 ◼   ► well yeah or you may go yeah Seattle [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► that's where the music came from in the [TS]

01:03:06 ◼   ► black hole sun and whatnot but like [TS]

01:03:08 ◼   ► that'd be great for banned by the way [TS]

01:03:09 ◼   ► sons the buckle sons sis [TS]

01:03:12 ◼   ► hello captured that somebody write this [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► down [TS]

01:03:16 ◼   ► Wow well I don't know our all I heard [TS]

01:03:21 ◼   ► did you just recently mentioned that [TS]

01:03:24 ◼   ► song that Jenna to the the UH RIT [TS]

01:03:30 ◼   ► mention that song recently what's called [TS]

01:03:31 ◼   ► was the first hit for saving time [TS]

01:03:34 ◼   ► no you don't have to go home but you [TS]

01:03:40 ◼   ► can't stay here know that [TS]

01:03:47 ◼   ► and that that though that was going on [TS]

01:03:49 ◼   ► the band's sound with the sound was the [TS]

01:03:51 ◼   ► first week it first Soundgarden big hit [TS]

01:03:54 ◼   ► well you're talking to somebody from [TS]

01:03:55 ◼   ► Seattle i'm going to say that's very [TS]

01:03:56 ◼   ► different thing this week the onions [TS]

01:03:58 ◼   ► time studying damn you John Rex with [TS]

01:04:00 ◼   ► them somebody asked you an interview [TS]

01:04:01 ◼   ► like what you think of when you think of [TS]

01:04:03 ◼   ► Seattle music and you pull this song [TS]

01:04:04 ◼   ► straight out what's the one sherman [TS]

01:04:05 ◼   ► brothers are you know you know the one I [TS]

01:04:08 ◼   ► mean uh first began from me or I'll so [TS]

01:04:13 ◼   ► frustrating was it not shine shine no [TS]

01:04:17 ◼   ► more than an outright that's what this [TS]

01:04:20 ◼   ► web the first one didn't make a single [TS]

01:04:22 ◼   ► rock star [TS]

01:04:24 ◼   ► hey yeah i'm missing all the garden and [TS]

01:04:29 ◼   ► looking narrow was it [TS]

01:04:33 ◼   ► Macarena its sister and it got wiring [TS]

01:04:37 ◼   ► and others daddy as that guy you know [TS]

01:04:41 ◼   ► that guy right at you know that guy [TS]

01:04:43 ◼   ► yeah people think about Soundgarden the [TS]

01:04:49 ◼   ► lines across your face i drawn with hate [TS]

01:04:51 ◼   ► um it's got that it's got to be riff oh [TS]

01:04:57 ◼   ► you know how and all this out [TS]

01:04:59 ◼   ► that's that is how good you could do the [TS]

01:05:05 ◼   ► general down that was not their first [TS]

01:05:08 ◼   ► big hit those later but since this from [TS]

01:05:11 ◼   ► their bad motor or finger or album right [TS]

01:05:13 ◼   ► who have really derail myself we got [TS]

01:05:16 ◼   ► away from cops we got away from your [TS]

01:05:18 ◼   ► balls anyway like if you said older but [TS]

01:05:27 ◼   ► the thing is though you get 15 of these [TS]

01:05:29 ◼   ► people in a room and go hey should we do [TS]

01:05:31 ◼   ► it in Seattle like one of them's gonna [TS]

01:05:33 ◼   ► go hell yeah man yasan and everybody [TS]

01:05:35 ◼   ► else is going to be like no over ball [TS]

01:05:37 ◼   ► like they've gotta be you know what i [TS]

01:05:38 ◼   ► mean that's like that's well you think [TS]

01:05:40 ◼   ► about that 50,000 people all like 50,000 [TS]

01:05:43 ◼   ► people / 4 because they come in car [TS]

01:05:45 ◼   ► you're doing well you like capacity [TS]

01:05:47 ◼   ► every week probably 25 35 dollars per [TS]

01:05:50 ◼   ► car to park and then everybody gets a [TS]

01:05:54 ◼   ► wiener dog paddle [TS]

01:05:56 ◼   ► horn everybody gets a kettle corn [TS]

01:05:58 ◼   ► there's people drinking beers [TS]

01:06:00 ◼   ► there's all the jerseys they're selling [TS]

01:06:02 ◼   ► its massive massive money wave every [TS]

01:06:06 ◼   ► time one of these voltages planes I just [TS]

01:06:08 ◼   ► confuse pretty noose without shined yeah [TS]

01:06:11 ◼   ► pretty nice i just did that did i'm so [TS]

01:06:13 ◼   ► excited that Britain news is a pretty [TS]

01:06:16 ◼   ► angry right yeah that was you know that [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► the the ben shephard base era I have to [TS]

01:06:24 ◼   ► say when they really turned him loose on [TS]

01:06:25 ◼   ► his bass guitar [TS]

01:06:27 ◼   ► yeah uh that there are some very [TS]

01:06:30 ◼   ► powerful bass riffs so I was thinking of [TS]

01:06:32 ◼   ► was outside so you got thirty-five [TS]

01:06:34 ◼   ► dollars worth of kettle corn five people [TS]

01:06:35 ◼   ► in a pot that all arriving first sports [TS]

01:06:37 ◼   ► a new ball that's right a lot of them [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► are staying in hotels probably probably [TS]

01:06:42 ◼   ► the 5,000 people that came for the [TS]

01:06:44 ◼   ► advertising the advertising revenue I [TS]

01:06:47 ◼   ► script it's crazy and then all the [TS]

01:06:50 ◼   ► kickbacks elementary all the paper a guy [TS]

01:06:54 ◼   ► i saw this i saw this is the detail the [TS]

01:06:57 ◼   ► other day a in association with the fact [TS]

01:07:00 ◼   ► that mick jagger's longtime girlfriend [TS]

01:07:02 ◼   ► just recently committed to this sad it [TS]

01:07:05 ◼   ► was a really tragic and she's telling [TS]

01:07:07 ◼   ► you she's tall lady and and and that [TS]

01:07:10 ◼   ► alone made me like have a have a new [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► respect for Mick Jagger I you notice [TS]

01:07:15 ◼   ► that when guys get to be a certain [TS]

01:07:16 ◼   ► amount of rich and famous they like [TS]

01:07:20 ◼   ► these small people small guys they no [TS]

01:07:23 ◼   ► longer are self-conscious about their [TS]

01:07:24 ◼   ► height and they're dating women who are [TS]

01:07:26 ◼   ► like a foot and a half taller than they [TS]

01:07:27 ◼   ► are like I kind of admire that it's like [TS]

01:07:29 ◼   ► wow okay well sure why wouldn't you like [TS]

01:07:32 ◼   ► this girl is amazing and also super tall [TS]

01:07:35 ◼   ► and that's its own mean about the [TS]

01:07:38 ◼   ► pictures of them standing next to each [TS]

01:07:39 ◼   ► other where she is my kind of leaning [TS]

01:07:41 ◼   ► down like fetish porn it's like giant s [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► porn crazy she's super she's 64 in bare [TS]

01:07:47 ◼   ► feet crazy but one of the side details [TS]

01:07:53 ◼   ► in all of that tragic a reporting and i [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► really i really was astonished that he [TS]

01:07:59 ◼   ► was you [TS]

01:08:01 ◼   ► it seemed that their relationship was [TS]

01:08:02 ◼   ► real and he was very seemed really taken [TS]

01:08:04 ◼   ► back to have [TS]

01:08:05 ◼   ► stated by the yeah but one of the very [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► side minut side details was that Mick [TS]

01:08:11 ◼   ► Jagger was worth 200 million dollars i [TS]

01:08:13 ◼   ► saw this note notated because in our in [TS]

01:08:18 ◼   ► our culture now you have to you have to [TS]

01:08:21 ◼   ► append to every mention of somebody [TS]