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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 101: "Where All the Lilypads Are"

 

00:00:00   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/0">TS</a>]

00:00:04   hello a John Merlin how's it going get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/4">TS</a>]

00:00:11   are you doing pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14   wow you sound good voice little i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   yeah I haven't eaten here using your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   scott simpson voice oh well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/20">TS</a>]

00:00:26   exciting i'm glad i'm not that we found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   a way to talk to each other today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29   yes yes i am to you been busy you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/29">TS</a>]

00:00:33   your big show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/33">TS</a>]

00:00:34   I put on a show I hear good things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/34">TS</a>]

00:00:38   wish every time I walk out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   jingle stick or now that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/40">TS</a>]

00:00:45   feathered headdress the world is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   big percentage of them that you that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   just enter and exit at your leisure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   yeah I stand out at the front arms arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   spread wide in Jesus Christ pose ffi I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00   say I'm a golden God already does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   internal much to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   mm she had your shot at the at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/64">TS</a>]

00:01:08   rendezvous how to go at the rendezvous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/70">TS</a>]

00:01:11   well it was a it was a learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   experience for me a growing experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   learning and growing the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/75">TS</a>]

00:01:21   what I need to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   here's what I don't know i do not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/83">TS</a>]

00:01:27   how to use three-by-five cards and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/87">TS</a>]

00:01:35   I know that might sound strange to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   given how well you utilize three-by-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   cards i hear them there but I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/99">TS</a>]

00:01:43   learned to use them I remember a in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/103">TS</a>]

00:01:47   would have been in general maybe fifth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   grade is where they first say now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/110">TS</a>]

00:01:53   going to make a topic statement and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/113">TS</a>]

00:01:56   an outline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57   nope yeah and i add in junior high they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   really really focused on it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   remember sitting on the floor surrounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   by three-by-five cards and I had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/125">TS</a>]

00:02:09   everything I could number them in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12   them and they just always got mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   up you know I'd start flipping through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16   them and pretty soon they're all mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17   up in the been crazy order and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   made any sense to me my mom was a three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   by five card user or at least she knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   how to do it but three-by-five cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   have always baffled me I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   learned how to employ them the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   that I end up riding on three-by-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   cards are always just random and useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/155">TS</a>]

00:02:39   when I'm standing in front of a crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/159">TS</a>]

00:02:40   and look at what you don't know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/160">TS</a>]

00:02:41   means later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   yeah I look at it it's just like it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/162">TS</a>]

00:02:45   ballpoint pen and it's like that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   I i'm not referring to that in my speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   i don't know what i'm talking about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   don't you write that down and now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/171">TS</a>]

00:02:52   off your game because you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   about pens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54   yeah well so so that's the problem i i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   i had i needed some notes I wrote some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/178">TS</a>]

00:03:02   notes and then the notes were a constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   distraction to me because i would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   at periodically would look over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   lectern at my list of notes and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   were and it was just like I couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   read my own handwriting and also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   didn't know what I meant by the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   that written down so that's very that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/198">TS</a>]

00:03:22   so that's something I need to learn how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   to do i need to learn how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/203">TS</a>]

00:03:24   bullet-point a presentation and then use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/204">TS</a>]

00:03:29   those bullet points to effectively jog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/209">TS</a>]

00:03:33   the speech in my mind can we circle back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/213">TS</a>]

00:03:39   to index cards I i want to hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   your show but I actually i think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   you just described a phenomenon that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   really damaging to a lot of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   could be very creative and I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   circle back to that but I've like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   because I don't take off the game with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   your show but I got to say about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   you're describing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   yeah well I'm hope i see i'm hoping to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   get your your insight and your wisdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   because i know that you do i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   you see this is the thing to get up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   give an hour-long presentation where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/246">TS</a>]

00:04:10   have no there is no like you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13   guest on somebody else's show you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   not hiding behind your guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   you're not be you are not an opener for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   something you are not there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   context other than i am here during a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   show i'm walking out onstage America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   I'm an hour-long show this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   I know you've done and for me I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/271">TS</a>]

00:04:35   always had a guitar or have been part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/275">TS</a>]

00:04:40   a larger production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   mhm and to get up and say like I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   to entertain you with nothing else other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   than my own thoughts for an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   it requires a little bit of organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   but like do you make a set list for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   yes okay i think a set list is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   terrific example of I'm gonna I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   rhian circle back because i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   is not talking about and jumping jumping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   any point with the show okay i so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/302">TS</a>]

00:05:06   know right tool for the job is what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/306">TS</a>]

00:05:07   comes down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   there's a bigger pattern here but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   little pattern is that you discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11   which tools work for you I think so as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   set list is has been for years has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   a classic for a simple reason I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   it's really everybody understands what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   it's for you understand what order the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   songs are in unless you're the drummer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/322">TS</a>]

00:05:23   you might need some special explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   something that's all you need little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   stars and numbers by the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   hey John these real names of our songs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   no see the little number by that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   that means you use sticks on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   that's your name dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   so I i think that that's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/337">TS</a>]

00:05:41   example because what do you really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   to know like so you know how your songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   go you you know how they start an end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   the thing that you need is the like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/347">TS</a>]

00:05:51   my get the job my dad used to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   radio is called traffic which is not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   cars are moving it was basically how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   fill time and so my dad like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   people in broadcasting at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00   unsexy job sitting there with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   stopwatch and figure out exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   many seconds each thing took and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   they read the announcements this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06   and all that kind of stuff like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   David Letterman you speak booth in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09   announcer at a TV station same job super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   boring but it's really it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   about transitions in some ways and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   think in some ways you could think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   set list is that yes a list of the songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/377">TS</a>]

00:06:18   are going to play that's what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19   want to take home and put on the dorm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   wall and stuff but to you it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   a queue of what the next thing is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   then you don't have to think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/385">TS</a>]

00:06:26   again until that songs are just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   over and you look out of the corner of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/388">TS</a>]

00:06:29   your eye and even have to read full name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/389">TS</a>]

00:06:32   of the song down because you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   you know if you just wrote down medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/393">TS</a>]

00:06:37   like you know what song that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38   right bc i'm saying though I can I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/398">TS</a>]

00:06:42   you may be a quote-unquote index card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   person already it's just that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   been probably poisoned by the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   system that i was poisoned by which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   you know I don't know I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   some people who think in very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   ways there are many books about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   some people are analysts some people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   synthesist some people can do both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   there's some people though who like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   see the whole problem finished and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   what it looks like and are able to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10   make a thing without having to analyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   it like they know what the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   is so I'd I was really embarrassed at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   the time fifth sixth seventh grade will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   really just in general but but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   really embarrassed because I i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/441">TS</a>]

00:07:22   was the only person in the world who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   wrote the essay first and then made an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   outline after they wrote an essay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   then reverse engineer the index cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   from the outline because that's what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   had to hand and they want to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/453">TS</a>]

00:07:34   show your work right I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   really stifling to some people if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   somebody can write an essay let me write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   a cot damn essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   okay you know you can get so obsessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   with teaching that person this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   little unit on how to use index cards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   write a report that you really end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   scratching their their creativity by not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   letting them make things the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52   don't even realize they already know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   to make it so now you make them think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55   that they're a dumbass because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   don't know how to use index cards i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   think that happens a whole a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00   I completely forgot why they even made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/480">TS</a>]

00:08:04   us use index cards and now you've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   reminded me yes of course they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   trying to get us to use index cards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   organize our thoughts to write a paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   yeah and I was exactly like you of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14   course i know what i want to say i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15   just going to write it's not like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   let it sit down and write an essay i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   didn't have to organize my thoughts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/499">TS</a>]

00:08:20   index cards and then I had to like dummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   up to gin up these index cards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   pretend like i had used them he had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   like cook the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   yeah but that's actually what so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/513">TS</a>]

00:08:33   so this is my preparation for my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   was i sat down and I wrote 2,500 word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/516">TS</a>]

00:08:41   humorous SI and then i read it and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/521">TS</a>]

00:08:45   don't quite weak and lakes yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   exactly right 2500 word universal well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   begun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   and that indicate the theme of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55   two kinds of people in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   winner's lose just and so then I i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/537">TS</a>]

00:09:06   it and i liked it and I honed it as i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   until it I until I really liked it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   then I read it and I was like oh but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   can't memorize this 2,500 work si like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   if I was doing if I was coming up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   the show that I was gonna do like a rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   band set list where i was going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   30 times i was going to take this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27   on the road now is going to do it 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/567">TS</a>]

00:09:28   times then yeah I would sit and spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31   three weeks memorizing my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   presentation and then i would go out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   the first couple of nights would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   little bit rough and I be looking at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   my cue cards but then i would get the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   would i would get my show and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   would do it 30 times but what I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   trying to do is do a show a week and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/586">TS</a>]

00:09:50   don't and and memorizing an essay isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/590">TS</a>]

00:09:54   my forte and so then I was like maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/594">TS</a>]

00:09:58   should just maybe the show should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   that I just sit on a stool and read my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   dramatic SI and I thought about that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/602">TS</a>]

00:10:05   read it out loud a couple of times and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   was like well no first of all i I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10   bad at reading essays aloud like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   but it's not fun i don't like it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   also they don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   entertaining sit was watching guys sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   on a stool and with it reads SI so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   TBS right now so i was like no no what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   wrote the essay to get my thoughts going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   and now i'm just going to get up onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   I'm going to extemporize based on having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   written this essay I thought about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   for another day or two and then I sat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   down and I wrote a second 2500 word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   essay because when i read the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   allowed it only took it only lasted 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   minutes I was like oh I guess I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   5,000 words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   so wrote a second essay which I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   liked which i also did not intend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/651">TS</a>]

00:10:55   memorize and then when I got up on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   I basically got up there and spend an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/658">TS</a>]

00:11:04   hour tried to recall the two essays I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   written and signed up so I be talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/666">TS</a>]

00:11:13   about be like and then blahblah and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   in my mind voice would say you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/675">TS</a>]

00:11:19   really really funny way of putting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   in your essay and I'm talking I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/681">TS</a>]

00:11:25   telling the story but half of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   attention is devoted to trying to recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   the funny way that I had of saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   next thing I'm about to say range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   course i could not recall I couldn't lay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   my hands on the funny turn of phrase so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   when I got to the place in the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   where I where I was trying to recall the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44   funny term friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/704">TS</a>]

00:11:45   I you know I I bumbled through it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   guy trying to walk up a muddy road like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/708">TS</a>]

00:11:51   you know I jump over onto this rock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   then I see like oh there's a rock over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   there and I jump but i miss alright it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   not a rock it's a puddle and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   whole show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01   I'm feeling this step I'm doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   state of a of handicap itude where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/724">TS</a>]

00:12:11   have on my computer sitting feet away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   from me in a bag to very humorous essays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/734">TS</a>]

00:12:19   it's like it's like a headache you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/739">TS</a>]

00:12:22   just holding two aspirin against your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   head nothing's happened it and now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27   trying to basically in part the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   these two humans essays to a roomful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   people who have paid to watch me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   entertain them and so when I walked off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/755">TS</a>]

00:12:38   the stage I was like okay good learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41   experience first lesson you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/761">TS</a>]

00:12:45   recall your essays when you're onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/765">TS</a>]

00:12:49   and knowing that you've written them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   having them in the briefcase next to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   there is no as Moses that gets the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/773">TS</a>]

00:12:56   funniness of them to you and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/776">TS</a>]

00:12:59   they're just a distraction like I'm up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00   there if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   if I'd been standing on the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03   totally cold and your voice from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/783">TS</a>]

00:13:06   back of the room had said bananas i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/786">TS</a>]

00:13:12   I know you could attend three hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   yeah I've got a funny story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   bananas and then I would have had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   there would have been no effort but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   it instead I had prepared just enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/798">TS</a>]

00:13:23   to hobble myself because I because part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/803">TS</a>]

00:13:28   of me part of my brain was tied to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   idea that i had already done this better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33   somewhere and that's entertaining to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/813">TS</a>]

00:13:37   watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38   well mhm and I don't think the crowd i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/818">TS</a>]

00:13:42   don't think the audience would have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   noticed or I mean you know my mom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   like at one point I could see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   visibly tried to recall something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/827">TS</a>]

00:13:50   stage and I was like now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/830">TS</a>]

00:13:51   entertainment but i I've had a slice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/831">TS</a>]

00:13:55   pie one little pie was it let me let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/835">TS</a>]

00:13:59   just stand up here and try to recall a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   funny anecdote was that uncle Morris Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/842">TS</a>]

00:14:05   uncle Wesley Morris don't know I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   get it right and and I feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/847">TS</a>]

00:14:10   know I feel like after a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   rough start I did a surrender to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   idea that I was just get it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   going to try and re i was gonna try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   we capture the fun of telling these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   stories in in real time and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/862">TS</a>]

00:14:26   think I I don't think I traumatize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   audience and in fact you know the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   had a great like hack of this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/871">TS</a>]

00:14:37   there are a few hacks first attack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   that the room has 75 person capacity so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/880">TS</a>]

00:14:45   it is it's a it's an intimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/885">TS</a>]

00:14:49   environment although when I walked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   on stage it was not as intimate as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   thought it was there how much distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   is their first highest stage and how far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/895">TS</a>]

00:14:58   is it from the first row seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59   the stage is three feet high and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   one and a half feet from the first seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/902">TS</a>]

00:15:06   that's intimate so but there were 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/906">TS</a>]

00:15:10   people in the room rate and so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   just beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   you know that the people toward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   middle of the of the hall start to fade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/917">TS</a>]

00:15:20   into the mist like there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21   there are enough people here that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   can't just I can't just look down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   address everybody by name but that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28   the double hack of this was what was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/928">TS</a>]

00:15:32   an idea that i cribbed from Hodgman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   which is at the end of the night I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   I'm going to read out the URL i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   to do a dramatic reading of the URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   bi t dot ly / and I read out the URL for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/942">TS</a>]

00:15:48   the ticket link for them it's for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   next show and I said for for the next 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/950">TS</a>]

00:15:54   hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/954">TS</a>]

00:15:54   this link is only open to people in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/954">TS</a>]

00:15:58   room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   here's the code word here's the piers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   the password and so for 24 hours only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   people here have the ability to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07   tickets to the next show like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   grandfather again that's right so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   were here at the first show and you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   to keep going to the next to the show's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   then you are you know you have first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   right of refusal on that psychology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   that nice it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   it creates a sense of false scarcity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   that's so important today it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27   people like a little bit of scarcity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   sleep all this even if they know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   false but I gotta get going to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   I got to get the fucking ticket but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   woke up the next morning and the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   had sold out the next shows already sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   it sold out before the tickets were went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   on sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   god bless John Hodgman isn't that a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   a good trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:48   it's a very good trick and so that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:51   this this mention of it here on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   podcast is the last time all I will ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   credit John Hodgman for the idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   going to get a lot of credit for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   as it really does and he probably stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   it from somebody I don't know maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   thought into Canada a pretty smart guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05   but I'm I'm not crediting him anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08   end and I hope when the wikipedia entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11   that written in 2025 reading deadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:15   lakes a lot more dramatic bit ly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   readings will credit me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   uh-huh innovation John Roderick's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:22   primary contribution to Western culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   was this idea that he stole from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   somebody who's name is lost to history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:31   this brilliant innovation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   notwithstanding John would frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   just repeat one word as the course for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   he's known firm for more than 11 culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   culture additive you know we do we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   in our own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   that's the yes yes I was in my own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   yep it was like I was onstage and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   kept standing in front of me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   there was a third me that was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:57   move me and the other me around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   interesting people on stage is let's be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   honest john hodgman innovation haha he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:06   very good at you can email because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:10   dinged him just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   no he doesn't listen to our podcast good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   no I think he does actually that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   alright so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18   well so so so as I thought about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   show I was like the thing is I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   writing the 2500 word essay I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   enjoy that and not only do i enjoy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:30   when i'm done i have a 2500 word essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   that I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   yeah which gives me a feeling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   accomplishment and so I write it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:39   enjoy the process of like what that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   word isn't quite funny enough like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   do i how do I punched that up oh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   and then I find the funnier way of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   but there's not enough time every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   to to memorize all the funny turns of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:58   phrase and and having written it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:02   made it funny i have i have kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   removed it from the realm of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:10   extemporaneous story that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   coming up with and you're very colorful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   speaker just listening to you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   about your experience with united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18   airlines at seatac I've listened to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:19   episode that especially that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   episode of thank you for calling i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   listen to that twice just for how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   articulate you are at telling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   particular miserable story and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29   turns of phrase are fantastic you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   write that out what you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   written it out i don't know what but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   are awfully you're awfully good at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35   it's a one reason people i think enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   this program is is you are a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   extemporaneous storyteller and anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:43   that would get between you and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   to the point where speaking comfortably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   you know I mean I think it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   this is what I want to learn and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51   the learning and growing part yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   I know that I can get up in front of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   room of people and say and basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:59   know say to give me an animal a cat give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:03   me a city st. Louis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   alright let me tell you a story about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   cat in st. Louis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09   you know i got i know what you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12   which one but yeah exactly how many how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:15   many cats stories of from st. Louis time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   let's see well let's just limited to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21   eighties but what I want to do is I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24   to develop my I want to develop into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:28   like the whole point of doing this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   is to develop a new skill and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   would what I want that skill to be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   my goal is is that i do some preparation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:39   period like I do some preparation and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:46   know what I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47   I go into it with a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:51   preparation and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   so do you you want to get your own way a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   little bit and I grow you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   something more and it's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   everybody falls into like you know god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   bless Bob Dylan if he hadn't started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   annoying Pete sticker with electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05   music we would have a real different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   idea yeah and that morning meal we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:12   good see except ring is hilarious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:18   what you're working your way just enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   to be able to you you're trying to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   little sand into generate a little pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   write something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:24   exactly well a couple years ago paul f [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   tompkins I saw a couple of politicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:30   shows we may have talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   before i saw a couple of politicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:36   shows where he had evolved he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   evolving his act away from straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:41   stand up and he was going into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   long-form storytelling where he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46   out any he did an hour-long show and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:51   entire show was basically the story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:55   his his job history before he became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1315">TS</a>]

00:22:00   comic like all of the shit jobs that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:04   had when he was a teenager in his early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   place and so that is like basically any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:13   rock on the line episode and any night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:17   at a cocktail party with either you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:18   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:19   right like oh you wanted you want two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   hour-long like disquisition you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   want to get a couple drinks and graphs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   eat it because let me tell you about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   first five jobs or whatever but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   somebody say busboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   hello I know I'm busboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:38   yeah how many people in the room ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:39   worked at a glance real quick um but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:44   watching Paul do his show it was evident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:48   that his 20 years of stand-up comedy had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:53   at was greatly informing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   storytelling his his comic time in was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1375">TS</a>]

00:23:01   you know not just impeccable but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   the laugh lines of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   were not what you that it wasn't built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:11   around like here comes the story here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   comes the story and it's coming up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   the end and the end is going to be funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   and then there's the blue the end haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   it was much more like he's telling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   story and then there would be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   detail and it would be that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   the biggest laugh line of the night but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   it wasn't the laugh lines were all kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   of like these polyps and the threat of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:34   the story continued underneath and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   know the end of the story and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   were saying the transitions between this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:40   story and the next story work were these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   seamless kind of you know he didn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46   wasn't a case where he just said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:47   then two years later I got another job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   like it it all it all wove together it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:53   so much harder to do than it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   incredibly hard to do and so I'm sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   in the audience of these shows i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   watching him work and I'm like okay he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:03   has gone full circle from years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:07   years of standing up and saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   what's the deal with rutabagas and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:15   doing stand-up he's evolved and found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:19   this long-form storytelling that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   that's really like a thing that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:27   do and have been doing my whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   long form humorous storytelling taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   over a corner of a of a party and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:36   know and going on these sort of long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   humorous digressions but he has but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:42   of the work he's done in comedy and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   his stage time and obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   preparation that's gone into making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   one show like it gives it allows him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:55   have the appearance of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   extemporaneously telling a story but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   knows every note of it and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:05   so he still allows for the opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:09   of chance right he can still he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   still respond to somebody in the crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   he can still go off on a tangent but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   knows where all the lily pads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19   and so watching it I was more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:24   anything I was like that is so outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   of my skill that here that is so above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:30   my skill level what he's doing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   recognize the framework and I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   is the danger that people have when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   watch a stand-up comic they're like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   could do that but like I could see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   architecture of it and I saw how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:45   how far I had to go how much I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   learn and so for the last year I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:51   tried I've had multiple opportunities to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   get up and do extemporaneous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:55   storytelling and I've i have probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   done it now a dozen times where I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   gotten up and told a half-hour story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   that I was making up off the top of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   head not the not the stories of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:07   they're all one hundred percent true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   yes but the storytelling and now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:13   wanted i wanted to switch gears Merlin I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16   want to I want to I want to get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   at a thing where I am where I'm from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:23   crafting a thing but I don't know how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:29   don't know what to do next and when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   try to ask paul f tompkins about it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   like you know it's like asking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   magician to show you how to cut a lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   in half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:36   he's like haha yes storytelling is funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   anyway I think it's something well first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   of all I mean it's I i think it's high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   time you did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:45   I'm glad you're doing this it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   i-i've been an advocate for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   for you realizing how talented new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   potentially gifted as horrible as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   human being is your that you are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   so awfully talented these things it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:56   nice to see you giving yourself the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   chance to do that as nice to see we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   appear onstage by yourself certain you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   know if you're up there with a band and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   rocking out if one is up there with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   band and rocking out that's one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:08   and you know you could modulate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   performance for like how the sound in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   the room is but you're not really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   don't know i feel like when I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   music performances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   I'm not changing that much based on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   how people's faces look on how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   responding is not that much that I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   even can change that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   it's so much changes when you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:30   at that audience we did our show we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   talking about this with these two shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   and just the chance to do this with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   in front of people I immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36   realized stuff we had to change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   second night not you know it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   bad way but like oh duh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   there's a bunch of people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:43   audience right and and like they're part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   of the their part of the bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   yeah and we pretending they're not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   we can't now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:51   no they won't go away they're still here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:54   but that's I mean that's so silly but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   takes a certain amount of empathy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   the ability to open yourself up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   eventually I guess you open yourself up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   in very selective ways when you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   really good once you get good at crafts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   but it's it does take it certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   very different skill to call it just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   same kind of performing is was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   missing the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   it's a very different kind of much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:15   personal thing to be up there by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   yourself having to carry the whole room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   well and and and what was funny is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:24   halfway through the show I recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   that I was adopting a kind of Todd Barry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:30   like deadpan that that just to take Todd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:36   Barry and paul f tompkins two examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   like Todd uses this this super low a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:43   fact as a as a great sort of comedic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:48   wedge and he becomes I i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:55   what i was seeing is that every comedian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   I know every performer that gets up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   does a one-person show like they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   find a way to make their character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   sympathetic make their make the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:10   onstage a person that everyone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   audience can empathize with and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   somehow Todd Barry makes this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:19   really low a fact disagreeable uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:26   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:26   a status conscious character that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   presents like you your ear on his side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:33   right and and polished Tompkins is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:37   animated and friendly he appears to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   guy that you would want to know and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   friends with who you're onstage want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:46   put them on a keychain you so cute he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:49   you're onstage thing when you give your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   presentations at a you know I hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   inbox zero presentations around in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   yeah when you get up on stage and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   your thing you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   your character is like the guy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   everybody in the room who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   wishes would come into their office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   and be there with them for an hour you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   know like you are the one you're the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12   that they all want to be right and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:17   thing standing onstage with the rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   band like I the guitar and the song was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:26   was so active and so there was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:30   life in the music that then I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:35   this kind of rye voice in between songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   where I would just you know I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   talk to the audience like this and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   voice just say oh you think that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:44   we'll look you don't you fucking shut up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:47   for a second but and then go back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:51   the song was like yeah i am and the and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:54   the attention and the contrast was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   exciting and it's part of why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   character worked but as I was doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   our like I heard myself and and and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:06   conscious of this this persona where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:12   you know I'm kind of talking to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   audience like this for an hour and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:18   and it raised all these questions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   like well who is this guy like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   isn't this isn't how I'm this isn't how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:28   I talk to my three-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   and this isn't you know and if I'm if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:34   I'm standing somewhere and trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   a bunch of people's attention like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   tell a very animated story but because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   have everyone's attention already in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   this room and it's quiet room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   nobody's talking about me I'm you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   I'm all the way down here at this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   of like and then so that anywhere then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   said this and then I said that and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   like how do i need to divide it to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:55   them turn the energy up a little bit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58   me like be a little bit more excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   about my own story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   I don't know that's another thing i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   two things I cannot bear to listen or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:10   watch myself perform i should i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:14   be reviewing gameday tapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   yeah I should be watching these shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   and saying like oh that's that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22   thing in mind I i really i can listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   podcasts I've been on i can listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   music I've done but I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:27   watching myself alone on stage doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   thing and it's not embarrassing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   but it does it makes me self-conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   in a way that I'm not sure is good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:40   mean it's I to me is how it feels in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   room you know it needs to feel a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   way in the room and which means yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   means that I need to feel a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   in the room but i think especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   comedy quote-unquote comedy one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52   problems is that I don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   describe this it's almost like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55   think that they can win the room over by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:58   controlling the temperature of the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   and making it hotter and colder right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   she kind of also have to have these much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   more subtle and ineffable qualities of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   controlling the humidity and barometric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   pressure there's this ability to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   it's like kegeling or something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   discover this mostly didn't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   you had I tried killing and i discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:17   i didn't have that most I think you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   to act like you're stopping or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   get a little bar belt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   I do that all the time i got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23   stopping people just act like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   I keep eating sure you're not a Buddhist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   haha what I can join the humidity there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33   what I what I do is I go into men's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   rooms and I act like I'm stopping peeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   all of all the guys who have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:38   carrying a ladder and a bell and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   stand in the back and I'm like but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:47   it's super interesting to me how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   know it's it's what makes me want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   lots more live stuff because i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   think i know what you're saying is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   you discover this this person emerging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   through these little my new trial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   error things and I can only imagine how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   much more I would learn if I did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   every week or every two weeks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03   whatever you know where I feel like by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   the time I'm ready to get off stage at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   some kind of a live performance i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:08   im just barely starting to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11   I'm I'm loosening up that warming up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   I'm getting out of my own way and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   letting silence float when it needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   float I'm knowing when to run out and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   something goofy but I but suddenly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:23   takes awhile for me because I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   it all the time where somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   politics or whomever can just walk out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   and you know immediately they the energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:31   in the room changes when they come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   because there are presents they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34   they are empathetic I don't have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   better word than that empathetic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   they can see themselves in the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   watching it and knowing what they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   be doing and you know part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   probably that you can explain that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   somebody just got to go and do it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   it's like that one Saturday morning when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   you wake up and can suddenly play bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51   chords you can tell somebody put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   fingers here and then they can do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   whole bunch and eventually gets less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56   heart but honestly one day I could do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   barre chord the day before I couldn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00   don't know why but it was just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   know why was that Saturday rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   the one before the one after but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   was the difference because you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   was the Grays out the the guys with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:11   alien guys have a great came into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:13   they said he's ready and they said let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   see let's upload the the matrix program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   for our cords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   well apart though right well and so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:24   like a kurt braunohler do you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   comedian he's a very funny comedian i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:31   did a couple of shows with him in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   fall where he got up in like cold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36   front of a room that was it was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   these shows like that is 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   sighs it was the wesley space the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   cabinet of Wonders right it's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:45   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:45   a british guys gonna get up and play to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   folk songs and then there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   a you know a guy who's playing wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   glasses and then there's gonna be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   emoji then the juggler and Men the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   comedian gets five minutes and he walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   out and he you know ease in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   incredible position of trying to present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:08   to the room like this casual comedian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:14   effect where right away you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:18   you're gonna be on board listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   him tell his story and he also was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:24   this what i can only think is like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:28   movement in comedy which is like a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   thing happened to me on the way over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31   here and told the story you know 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:35   minute long story that was that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   had all these elements of of joke making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:42   that that was ever that showed 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:46   in the comedy trenches or longer of kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   of nowhere jokes and annoying how jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   live but the framework of it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:57   the anecdotal story telling and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:03   there's all this there's all this work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   that's ever that's obviously gone into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   this art form that they done the work so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:12   now they can forget it and I have done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:16   lot of that work but it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:20   patchwork quilt and so these shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:24   this last show that I did and then my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   goal for the shows for the next six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   months is to is to get up there and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:33   really you know like I a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   congratulating me after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   everybody was very happy obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38   everybody that was there bought a ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   to the next one or more they they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:44   their friends and said I can't go but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   you should or whatever like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48   selling tickets isn't isn't something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   I'm worried about at least for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   so I have the opportunity to get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   there and failed but my god getting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   and failing is not fun even if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   everybody in the room is like doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   matter to us go for it and that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05   was just good let me get that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   oh yeah that was good that was good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   mean you know there were a couple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   yeah that that story went a little long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   but you know it was really good like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   fuck you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18   but-but-but I expected it you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:22   even even the guy from the guy from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   robber who runs the AV the dude up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:28   I mean there's one microphone right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:29   he's up there is just got his hand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   the fader through the whole show one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   fader but like he came back right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   afterwards i'm sitting in the backstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   area he came back to sharpen his pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   or something and and i'm looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:45   guy for some kind of validation like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   well well you know I don't know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50   name but tell me how i did and he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   he's just one around back there like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   anything right and it needed anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   and I'm like no I'm going to me is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58   okay and he walks out I'm like fuck the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   thumbs-up no nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:03   fuck i didn't win that guy like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   changed my life over funny to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   you would feel that way that's so funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   you know it's terrible but but but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   i'm also i'm also monitoring myself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:16   through the whole process run like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   calm calm down now Richard Pryor like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:23   you just did one show rate and the AV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   guy didn't put a Hawaiian lei around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:30   your neck you're fine just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   I got upset and so philosophical of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35   about this i mean you did your daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   walks right she walk around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   oh she likes to walk so yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   actually see if Walker goes from here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   there but you know the first time that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   child this is the ultimate obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   on-the-nose analogy because that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   even an analogy but the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   know kid tries to walk for a really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   time and falls down and you applaud them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   for for trying to walk and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   one day another good-looking get up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:02   week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   get up look at this chart but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   where you don't want to live buddy 48 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   percentile that is no place to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   my mom wrote down the the day that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   first walked and you are two percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   behind already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   but you know eventually one day the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   the kid walks for a while and you free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   cuz you're like oh my god this is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:24   it's great it's great and then for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:26   the kid doesn't walk very well but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   kid walks and then eventually the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   walks and so on and so forth and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   that's kind of how i feel about a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   performance where I used to really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   don't know it's not even superstition I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39   kind of don't like talking to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:40   about what i just did it feels it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43   undignified I i like it when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   complicated like it makes me feel good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   but I don't want to parse it I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   it's just it's done it's done now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   like for me it's just a matter of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   that over and over and over and I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   a point where like you know I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   worry about what the sound guy thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58   and when doing like you know talks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   stuff and it made me it made me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   happier person I would it also made me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   think a little bit better at kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   trend that I mean obviously you're way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   more performant I'll ever be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:11   but at the same time like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   something nice about getting the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   where you go thanks I'm glad you enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:15   it and then you you know going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:16   next thing but for me like I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:20   felt like that person who can I can walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   and I can walk pretty well and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   can walk a little bit fancy sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   but it's just a matter of doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   walking every day just doing that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   every every every day and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   like I'll know what I'm good it won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   matter i'm glad you liked it but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   matters is whether i think it's good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   when I know it's good it won't matter if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   you didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40   that's to me that's kind of that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   the good place to be not to be arrogant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   but you know same thing again just we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   back the whole check your privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   thing like if you actually are good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48   something it's it's it's like Harrison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:53   Bergeron you know like nobody's allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   to be good at anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   Walker you certainly aren't aware you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   sure are a lot to be aware if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   good but if you get to a point where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   like don't need to glance across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   everybody in the room to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   whether you're happy with how you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   what you did because it's what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   and you just keep going out and doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:10   it's you know it makes me really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:13   do that stuff more to get to where I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   really is about you know the crafters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   and there's always going to be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19   one that's the thing you're always going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   to do more of these right well and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   was the thing that I mean watching Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   Tompkins tell them tell his do is show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   couple years ago I was very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31   conscious that the the apparent ease and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:37   effortlessness of his work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   surely every night invites 5 to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:43   people to come up to him in the bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   afterwards and talk to him about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   storytelling talents you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:50   like it seems so easy and so so people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:57   are duped into thinking it's easy and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   I was very careful not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:04   and the problem was it's impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   because I'm standing there with Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   afterwards and I want to tell him about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   how i like to tell stories and how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   how inspirational this was I recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   that that that he hears it all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:18   and unlike guitar playing and rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   banding like you get off the stage at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   at a rock concert yeah they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   be five or six guys that come up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   talk to you about their band but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   are so many things you have to do before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31   your band is headlining a show that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:34   can listen to a guy talk about his band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   his guitar playing and all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:37   that all his aspirations and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   end you can kind of just you know pat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   him on the shoulder and go well good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   luck buddy i hope good things happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   your band but with storytelling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:50   Eugene Mirman anecdote about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   that was really good now good for 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   years exactly go do it for 10 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   the other thing about it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   of entry to get up in front of a crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   and hold the microphone in your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   there is none like anybody can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   anybody can stand take that first step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   onto the stage holding a microphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   the question is do does the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   leave an hour later entertained so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:16   when I walked off the stage at the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   night and people wanted to talk to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:25   about it as much as I as much as I in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:32   wanted feedback I didn't need any ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   and what I kept playing in my own head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:39   what other what I kept going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   because you know i wanted i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   criticize my own show and turn it into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   pile of what wet ashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   that's my instinct like to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   each moment of the show and be like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   ashes or wet ashes who went ashes what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2694">TS</a>]

00:45:01   you know what I kept saying to myself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   I'm sitting backstage was a year ago you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:08   were superior like massively depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:12   you were 40 pounds overweight and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:17   prospect of actually getting up onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20   actually booking a show and following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   through on it was like an insurmountable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:26   obstacle you couldn't imagine doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:29   and four months ago you said you set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:36   some some goal and in a way like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   first time I ever first time in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   long time actually wrote a goal down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   a piece of paper and it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   handful of of goals that all that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:50   dovetailed with each other like find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   assistant renting office space book a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:56   weekly show and in the in the tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:02   and the anxiety leading up to this first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   show it was very difficult to to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   pride in having taken any of those steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   because it seemed like oh sure you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   an office but the but they put some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   chemical sealant on the floor and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17   can't be in there because it gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:18   allergies and you know yeah you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21   about trying to find an assistant but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   now now you have for assistance and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25   and and like three times the anxiety and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:30   oh you book to show sure but but between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33   now and when the show starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   maybe your pants are going to catch on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   fire or maybe the world is going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   to an end and sitting backstage what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   was a lot what I was allowing myself was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   in fact you have you have accomplished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   the goals that you set out to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:49   well you have to give yourself that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:53   allow yourself in that moment I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   do not do not turn the show that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   just did it too wet ashes now is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   time to reflect on the fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   have an office you have you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   assistant in fact you have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   assistants and maybe about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   assistants maybe maybe more i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   manager or two of the assistants I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   haven't met yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   I've definitely met two of my assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   and most importantly you have you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:25   you booked a weekly show and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   now done the first one so no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30   happened if I it if you know and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:34   fact is like not only did the show but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   like succeeded at it if I'd gotten up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:40   there and just stuttered for an hour I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44   could be proud of having taken all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   steps and in fact I got up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48   entertained the crowd and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49   laughed and sold out the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:53   well and so that was before I knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   right and so I was sitting there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   was like listen maybe you're gonna sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:58   20 tickets to the next show in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   and then you're going to have to promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   it and get you know put 50 more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   in there but that's not going to be hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   to do and over time this will build and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09   maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   at some point there will be a long five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   months from now and you'll only see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   nobody will come but you just keep doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   this is the this is the trail and a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:23   from now you will know a year from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26   something will have revealed itself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:30   so I allowed myself that and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33   everytime everytime the voice came into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   my head that was like you know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   butchered the show last night and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   everyone in the room that used to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   fan of yours now realizes that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   charlatans every time that happened that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:47   voice speaks with a lot of battery am at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   my house every day it's very hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   to to to describe that that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   because he speaks Welsh but yea right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:58   that is the that every time that voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   came into my head I just repeated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   little like I a year ago we had hoped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:06   Bob Hope and steve jobs and johnny cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   and now we have up we have up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:14   basically a group of assistance unusable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:18   office space but you have done this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   will you use the gold first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   congratulations i don't make it about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   congratulations and but also that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   thing about a goal is and three girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   are stupid is that most times people let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   the goal becomes the goal the goal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   this thing that they basically carven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   stone sometimes having absolutely no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37   reason and no credibility to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   goal that I probably most people i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   is people are all into these goals and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   think the real productive if they got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44   goal my goal is to corner of the solar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:47   yeah yeah within three months but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   the same but like I'm just biting my lip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:52   to not going to put on my merlin hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   because there's so much about this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55   is why people beat up on themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   end up not not not even not succeeding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   that even trying like thinking it's easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   well yeah it's just the only people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   think something is easy or people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   haven't done it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:05   anybody who's actually done anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   knows that nothing is easy it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   easy after it stopped being hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   it's not you know you and the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   nobody there is a new thing that's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   absolutely there will be five new things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   that are hard that's called growth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17   the thing is sitting in a bar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   talking about this thing that's easy we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   do you been doing that for 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   not you but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:23   like somebody's they're all this is easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   ok then why you sit around a bar talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   about how easy it is like what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   done and that's and so the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   all those things this horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:32   disconnect between where you think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   should be where you actually are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   where you can reasonably expect to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   some amount of time so having a goal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   is so I think it's so valuable if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   goal that you're also allowing to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45   little air to it so I mean first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   congratulations that you got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48   bizarre that's pretty locked feat given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   where you have been that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   amazing with you in the troll that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   can get that far but also it's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   just always remember that a goal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:56   useful in as much as it keeps you moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   forward if the goal ever stops making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   you move forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   you've missed the point of the goal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   goal is to make you show up every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   and to work really hard into the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   thing it doesn't mean now you become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   some dumbass you stop taking a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   information or stops realizing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   you're trying to corner a non-existent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14   silver market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:15   yeah that's the beauty part it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   whatever if that's the thing about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:18   hack that's the thing that gets you off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   your ass and make sure you go out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   and do it every day until you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   that enough to have a reasonable goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25   that's why people don't get anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   right is they sit there they sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   in their little pile of shit and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   about how easy this should be and never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   do anything to try and reconcile all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   these possibilities they've introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   into their life and they think the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   out of that is to come up with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   possibilities and then beam and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   everybody because they didn't work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   quite well and and and and reflecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:48   back on how difficult it was like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:52   process since since we started talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   not very many months ago I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   remember what where when the debut of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   the idea that i needed an assistant was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04   but it wasn't that blog now problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   could be much earlier than like holidays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   fight last four months right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:09   and the idea of asking for help was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:14   was an incredible obstacle to overcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   like I didn't know even who to ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:20   help I didn't know how to ask for help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   and having asked for it and then getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   a response from people and in and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   fact you know i don't know if i told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30   that the the the way the assistant sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   now I heard about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   had like a medical assistant for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:36   right well what happened was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   that's why i said i have phrased that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   poorly but you had an assistant manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:41   meaning you had someone who wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   a manager of people who might be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   assistant right well so so so I I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:49   first thing i did was i called a my and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   your good friend Adam practica who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:55   been working at he's a model of of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58   task completion he's been working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   long winters documentary for 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   hiya that said Adam like you know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:07   of people who are who are you know fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:11   of the long winters and sort of enemies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   he is one dimension kind of away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:19   he's one dimension away from me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   he's not me and he knows a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   and I said who you know I need some help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   finding an assistant can you think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   anybody and he recommended a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   people and I was thinking about like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   do I don't like all these people that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   know not very well and ask if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   to work for me it's like you can't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   the number to call the optometrist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   because you don't have glasses exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   and so I called another friend of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:47   mine and of atoms Victoria Victoria van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:51   bruna see who is an office manager for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   non-profit a very very capable like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:58   active sort of person and a and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:02   go-getter like a like get things done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   kind of person she's the one who took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   she's a photographer but she also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   of put together how show that i played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   here that that Adam film that's online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   you a victorious somebody when she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   an idea that sweet a little story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   sing the song exactly i was really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   yeah and that was victorious kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   brain child and it happened at her house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   and so I called Victoria and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   Adam gave me the names of a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   people that I think should be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   what do you think of these people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   Victoria said well I that girl would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38   good except she's really busy and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   other person I don't think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:44   would be very good because of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45   reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   I was like oh ok she said that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:49   gonna dick cheney you she said said I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:53   find your vice president 05 you a vice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   president is what she said and so she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   started to do the thing that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:01   always desperately need the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   my dad's executive secretary used to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   which is she would call me or send me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   email or text me and say well why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:11   you just tell me the five things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12   you need and so I would kind of i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   reply and it took me sometimes two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:19   to reply but she never got impatient you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:24   know she just said yeah justjust you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   know i'm just reminding you you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   tell me the five things that you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:30   and through this process she came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:33   with an ad i talked about it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   podcast a dozen or more people applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   for the job of my assistant Victoria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:43   vetted all the applications she cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   hopefully communicated with all dozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   people may be multiple times and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:51   after a two-month long process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   she said I think the best candidate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:58   me she literally dick cheney that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:04   said oh alright uh you have a office job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:10   you are all you already have too much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   do and she said well this is the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13   think the best candidate is me to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:18   you a better candidate one day or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:24   to evolve this job into a job that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:27   enables me to one day do this job so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:31   what she is saying is i am your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   assistant until I am either your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:38   assistant or until i have grown an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:42   assistant from mud that I take from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:45   beach of life or until I am your I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:49   know I and it's and the thing is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:53   every step of the way my instinct to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   micromanage the process I resisted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:59   are you that's the whole point that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   the idea what that is step one step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   you're moving up the Buddhist assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   ladder because Victoria was doing a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   of great stuff and so I was just like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:11   am going to be quiet now and i am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:16   going to i'm not going to jump in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   i'm not going to tell Victoria that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   can't do the thing that she's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   do I'm going to allow her to find her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:25   own course here and so she found sochi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:29   of all the assistance that she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   interviewed there was one who lived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   denver whose name was Bailey McCann and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   then we can manage the chain of coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   shops in Denver but did not want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   that anymore and wanted to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   Seattle and she and Victoria struck up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   friendship online and I was like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:50   an unusual interview process because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:54   seems like you guys are staying up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   night talking on the phone and giggling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   but again I am stepping out I'm stepping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   away not out just stepping back now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   bailey has moved to Seattle she has quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   her job jobs in denver has moved here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:12   and is sleeping on Victorious couch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:16   the two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17   this sounds like something something on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   on cable TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   this well as I said the other day worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   porn ever it is it's called it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:27   a little assistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   yeah assistant search that org but let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:35   me just say this show that I did last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:39   week I could not have done without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   victoria and then the Bailey hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:46   ground running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47   she's here in and she was like seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   taking care of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:51   I had a at not just taking care of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   all the business where i was like i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   a paperclip boom there's a paperclip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   might need a three by five card I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   know how to use she was like boom here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   a three by five card and here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   thing i downloaded from the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   about how to use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05   I was like huh not only that but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   she showed up to a meeting I had with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:10   of the rendezvous and she brought two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   coffees one for me and one for her I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:17   like what's yes that's a French service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20   like know what you need before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   you need it right so so I'm standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   backstage and I'm also saying at a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:28   of different ways along the path to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   i could have jumped into this Victoria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   Bailey love triangle I could have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:36   myself the third pode but instead I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:41   what I basically was asking them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   allow me to do which is just think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   what i'm trying to do and in fact they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:50   both did all of the stuff that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   everything I could have asked for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   more and they and so I was like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:58   working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   this is the Jonathan Club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   this is the Jonathan Club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   Alton come foo of just not not getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:06   another not stepping on other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07   toes not getting in the way of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   who are trying to help you and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   was a that that is an ongoing mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:17   and lesson to me that that the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:21   thing I can do is shut up and accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   other people's work neck once again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:29   as easy as it sounds so hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:32   because you know I want to send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   especially three o'clock in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   i want to send everybody a five-page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   email 2500 word essay had taught him all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   what's wrong with that what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40   doing and and it and in this case just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:45   letting it letting it go letting it be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:50   press produced tremendous results so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:54   that is the story of my assistant search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   and it has you know where we're in a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3656">TS</a>]

01:01:00   basically like we have a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   professional organization now Victoria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   and Bailey are calling themselves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:05   Roderick group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   come on Wow get out of here right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:11   that cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   I all I feel like making business cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:13   for everybody it's it this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16   amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   yeah so now I just have to do it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:23   and again and this is so also when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   the shows when we heard the following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   day that the show sold out the upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   show sold out you would be amazed at how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:35   quickly my think tank and i don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:39   Victoria Bailey but like my mom my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   friend Ben London like I've got a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   constellation of of people who are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:46   you get a blue ribbon panel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   blue-ribbon panel and everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   everybody's instinct and my own instinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   to was like well we need to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:57   bigger venue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:58   weddings are charging more for tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   yeah we need to get ready to scale this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   up to the I disagree we need to take we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:05   need to start to remember that video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   where share is on an aircraft carrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:11   that's what we need to be thinking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   think chaps how do we get your you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:17   assless pants and then they're crushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:21   the bunny don't want to crush the bunny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:22   well that's the thing and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   they don't think any of them work we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   pushing that too hard it was just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   first instinct and it was my own first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   question of course it is is that this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   i somehow managed to stand up without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   falling down i guess it's time to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   the halt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:35   yeah exactly it's time it's time now to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   a to launch a rocket into space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:41   now is the time to six months at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:44   plump side some career advice just six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   months at that place gets fucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:47   awesome at it and then think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:48   think about adding another show maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:52   different show where you can grow some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   more but you you know you're building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:55   your platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:56   yep so it only time I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3776">TS</a>]

01:03:00   credit to everybody in this organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03   like it only took 20 minutes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:07   everybody to come to that understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   themselves like wait a minute wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10   minute where maybe maybe instead of six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:15   dollars we charged seven but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:16   fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   that's the extent of how much we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   push this this is a this is an incubator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   it is a yeah it's just it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   world the real you know the real benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:31   of this is going to be in a year when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34   understand when I understand what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   trying to make the benefit of it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   that not that I made four hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:43   dollars right and I need to make seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:46   hundred dollars but and so like I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:51   anyway I believe in this little team of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   people and I believe in this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   operation and I believe that I can well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3836">TS</a>]

01:04:00   that i can try again next week and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO2k24E/3840">TS</a>]

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