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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 100: "Tertiary Lobster Fork"

 

00:00:00   hello hi John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/0">TS</a>]

00:00:07   I'm Merlin has gone good good good good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/7">TS</a>]

00:00:13   are you going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/13">TS</a>]

00:00:14   I didn't get hella have a dusky voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   from having cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18   oh you doing a husky voice sound esky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   you do you sound like a stage manager of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   a southern theatre company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   listen I'm glad y'all gonna be out here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   we're gonna need to get them max and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   need to take a sweep out that whole area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/29">TS</a>]

00:00:31   for y'all get out there and sweep up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   that whole area that take and take and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/33">TS</a>]

00:00:37   I grew up did you do with that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   in parlance when you were a child take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   and take and is that purely a southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/43">TS</a>]

00:00:44   yeah I don't know what that means a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/44">TS</a>]

00:00:45   unique you any you need well first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   all you always say you need to anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   you need to take move them boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   otay can move the boxes no one here who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   didn't speak that way up here i may just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   do this all the time but my favorite is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   the kind of southern family has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   voicemail desk like that but a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02   bit of family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   emily is permanently family now and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06   its kind of Georgia think yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09   sure that there's a there's that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/69">TS</a>]

00:01:10   that that southern there's that southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/70">TS</a>]

00:01:13   twang that almost sounds like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   Brooklyn nasal you know yeah yeah yeahs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/75">TS</a>]

00:01:19   the it's it's it's sort of almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/79">TS</a>]

00:01:23   jersey squeak when you got me thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   about this many many episodes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   talking about how many have taking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   taking them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31   sorry I'm sec you got me thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/91">TS</a>]

00:01:35   this with the number of people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   South there from you know the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   Isles from Scotland right in Ireland and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42   now it's funny I do kind of notice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46   similarities may be funded to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   language person sit down taking taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/108">TS</a>]

00:01:49   sit down with you and not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/109">TS</a>]

00:01:52   illustrate those similarities i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   like to sit with a language person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   like taking sit and talk to take and sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   with the language person for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   i would love to talk to a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   person and I love language people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   know that harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   my mother the pedantic people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   out there language people bother me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/130">TS</a>]

00:02:11   oh yeah the real language people mmm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/131">TS</a>]

00:02:15   love language stuff I do too i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   like the language stuff i hope my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   daughter loves words how could she not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   well I am I don't even know the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   probably hyperlink google mega mega [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/145">TS</a>]

00:02:29   lingual look it wasn't nice laminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33   word for literally never stops talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/153">TS</a>]

00:02:37   mondo Mart mondo verbal yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/157">TS</a>]

00:02:41   there's not that many things I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   really care how she turns out by a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   but I i hope that she hopes she likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   music and how she likes words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47   yeah we got a lot of words going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   around here we're trying to get wordy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   were just kids were d is a worthy little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55   baby and we're trying to you know I one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   of the things that one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   that made me who I am because that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   pretty young age I think probably like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/182">TS</a>]

00:03:06   pre memory i realized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10   yeah they listening was was the secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/190">TS</a>]

00:03:14   like listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   Oh overhearing adults like listening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:20   on adult conversations was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   the was going to be where all the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   information was exchanged you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   so I was a not an eavesdropper but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   would your kid right nobody expects that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   you know what's going on i would just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34   sit on somebody's lap and just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   quietly and listen to the adults talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   they kind of forget your they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39   absolutely forget I think they get used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   to i know this is true for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   we're like I think you get so used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   kick it with little kids when they hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   anything they start remarking on it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   they try to change the subject or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52   wanna cookie or something for little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   kids around it doesn't say anything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/234">TS</a>]

00:03:55   could pick up a lot of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   well it worked for me until I was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   15 i will just come sit in the room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   sit quietly and listen to them and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   know I I knew enough to know that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/244">TS</a>]

00:04:08   contribution was not valued my is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/248">TS</a>]

00:04:14   they were talking about politics or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   economics or something I died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   don't have any doctor but I would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   sit and listen I listened until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   listened until I didn't understand and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   then I listen more and so what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   trying I'm trying to impart that to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   daughter because it's a because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   core of my understanding of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   right and my little girl right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   thinks that heard the first thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   comes into her head is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   important thought that anyone's ever had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   and we could be you know we could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   standing in a house that's on fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/281">TS</a>]

00:04:42   talking about exit routes and she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/282">TS</a>]

00:04:46   say an orange is like an apple and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   think that that you know we should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   stop what we're doing and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   appraise the wisdom of that idea so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56   trying to explain to her but basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   through through enforcement but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01   needs to shut up just shut up and listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   who but it's for her own good should get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   a lot more intelligence that was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   you just after shall gather more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   intelligence it's how you gather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   intelligence refresh shut up i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   i've done that with well you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   some reason don't think of Daniel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17   Plainview you know that movie can watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   because the music that with a little kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/319">TS</a>]

00:05:22   and and whatever Daniel speaks his son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   listens his son sits there in silence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   and is clearly listening to everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   that he's saying a man that can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   have a little kid that would just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   there and I certainly think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   you had to say you know that's my dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   all i want to do is teach all i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/337">TS</a>]

00:05:40   do a child but right now she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   resistant to being educated by me which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   is why I'm I'm well I'm taking my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   on the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   who gonna go teach the town it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   something i heard about talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/352">TS</a>]

00:05:53   yeah I I am i mean i i've said this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56   em I want to say with Jasper truthfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   I you know when I say that my daughter I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   don't know how to get her into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   please and thank you brute but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   believe in the please and thank you root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   it served me well i learned i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   told you this at a young age it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   somewhat obsessed with etiquette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   uh-huh and you know I was a very lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   kid now would read any reference book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   that I could put my hands on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17   did you read that Miss Manners now she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20   a poser but that Miss Manners book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   first one she put out that's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   like six inches fat for me that was Amy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   Vanderbilt o.a.r Evander bill yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29   the week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/389">TS</a>]

00:06:30   advocate told you this was before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   think it's either Amy Vanderbilt or who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   is the other really famous etiquette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35   person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36   well what's above yeah the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   post Emily Post Emily Post we had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42   hardcover etiquette book at our house I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   don't know how my fat it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46   interesting to ponder like how anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   ended up in your family like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   you look back you like what do we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   that in our house that's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52   and we have this book that was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   say was it seriously was at least like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   three-and-a-half inches thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   hardcover book from the early sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   with illustrations by mr. andy warhol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   interestingly know I really yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   backgrounds just an illustrator and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   i read that thing man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   I I knew from tiny Forks you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10   don't know everything I knew about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   you do your IUD your napkin and fold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   half for dinner you folded in quarters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   for lunch and you all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   backwards and forwards you know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   I knew how to make a UH Hospital corners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   on a bed that's right you all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   when I was like nine got weird you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   to know how to make Hospital corners if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   you're ever going to learn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   short-sheet about see nobody gets their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   bed short-sheeted anymore and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   something's lost people don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   education is not a buffet you have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/454">TS</a>]

00:07:38   in and work through the courses you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   start with the forks on the outside you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41   move in that education works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   you understand that reference i can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/463">TS</a>]

00:07:44   you looking at my looking at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   bookshelf right here next to my desk i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   have here the there the first four books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   of the New York Times guide to essential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   knowledge who which is a 3-inch wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57   book the second book the and Landers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   encyclopedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   haha whoa is that you need a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   guidance is good at index and Landers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/483">TS</a>]

00:08:06   encyclopedia a to z and this book was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   published in 1978 cock stone-cutting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/489">TS</a>]

00:08:13   page 128 a busy as you know up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/493">TS</a>]

00:08:17   nineteen seventy-eight the second or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   third book is the readers encyclopedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   edited by william rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   uh what is his name of william rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/504">TS</a>]

00:08:29   bennett and then the the fourth book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/509">TS</a>]

00:08:30   swear to you my friend is Miss Manners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/510">TS</a>]

00:08:33   guide to excruciating Lee correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/513">TS</a>]

00:08:35   behavior nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   and you know Miss Manners sure she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/517">TS</a>]

00:08:41   was a she was a you know what just ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   and come lately i spoke I spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   advisedly and for that i apologize i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   always enjoyed her most on talk shows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   thought she was a wonderful talk show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   guest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/531">TS</a>]

00:08:51   she's a very witty writer and she makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   a proxy to she's pretty foxy and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   makes the she makes the etiquette seem a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/536">TS</a>]

00:09:00   mission its it goes down with this spoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   full of sugar and she can but she can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   a bitch to and that the game man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/545">TS</a>]

00:09:10   don't hate the player you know you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/550">TS</a>]

00:09:13   think in high school that I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   been sitting around just learning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   roll doobies and and flicking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   switchblade into a log but in fact you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/559">TS</a>]

00:09:23   would think i was reading Miss Manners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   appreciating me correct bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   front-to-back I find those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   extremely calming I think I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   really like because it might somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   turbulent and we're childhood I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   i really enjoyed things like the Brady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   Bunch as a cultural touchstone and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   enjoyed reference books i enjoyed things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   that showed that there was a gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   order to life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/586">TS</a>]

00:09:47   yes yeah I really really did I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   still part of me that looks at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   doesn't just kind of calculator honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   there's a part of me that says like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   you know ideologies to really work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   us well in the sense that like the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/597">TS</a>]

00:10:00   that Miss Manners had which was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   dear oh my dear did you really just fold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/602">TS</a>]

00:10:08   your napkin across your did you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   just tuck your napkin into your shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12   oh oh darling and she could just hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/612">TS</a>]

00:10:16   her like gently like and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/616">TS</a>]

00:10:20   she would even reach out and take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/620">TS</a>]

00:10:21   napkin away herself she would always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   keep her hands to herself but she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26   just indicate to you she is the napkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   tongue that was provided shape and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   the feeling like oh there's a right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33   there's a right way the wrong way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   I i was sitting up at a fancy dinner the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   other day and I had my elbow on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/642">TS</a>]

00:10:43   all I still felt that when i do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   stuff and I LT and I felt bad I felt bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/644">TS</a>]

00:10:48   and then i realized that i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/648">TS</a>]

00:10:52   going to keep my elbow there i was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   to keep it there knowingly foo and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/654">TS</a>]

00:10:57   because because i had a mind to and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/657">TS</a>]

00:11:05   if there was you know if there was any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   rogue at this dinner party who could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   have a mind to keep his elbow on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   table it was gonna be me but you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   know you didn't i mean i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   constellation of of thoughts rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/677">TS</a>]

00:11:20   through my head and that you know that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   was somewhat playing the ribbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/683">TS</a>]

00:11:26   riverboat captain by putting my elbow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   there and leaving it there and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   problem was there was no one else in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   room that was even that could even tisk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   tisk at me so I was making appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   what a what a subtle key that was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   you to make that shits decision to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   a mind to put 100 up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   no I was your ID as man you know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   what you're doing exactly i was dying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   be tisk tisk by somebody so that i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   twirl the end of my mustache and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/712">TS</a>]

00:11:56   dip dip my white dinner jacket in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   consommé but no-one tisk tisk to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/719">TS</a>]

00:12:04   is sickening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/724">TS</a>]

00:12:04   no one knows up there's no one knows no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   one knows that you're doing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   sure that you're playing at social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/727">TS</a>]

00:12:10   social cultural mores no one even knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   you can't even if you can't even respond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   stuff because nobody nobody knows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   tune okay i'm gonna give you and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   you two bullets on this and this side I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   honestly feel that I should feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   terrible about having said this bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   number 12 my daughter but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   true which is first of all the please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   and thank you think it's such a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   bit of social lubricant and nobody no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/751">TS</a>]

00:12:35   matter what even if you're being like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   a photo civil British person like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   still nice to say please and thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   it's not just call someone sir or ma'am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45   or miss or something that gets really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   really nice but I've told you the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47   I said I said you know Ellie you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   get away with so much in life if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/770">TS</a>]

00:12:53   learn to genuinely say please and thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   you for things because people if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/775">TS</a>]

00:12:56   want something done ask for it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   favor and somebody's much more likely to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   do it could you please pass me the salt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   it sounds so much better than give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   the salt and really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04   that's that's I mean and you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   truthfully I think it's just something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   it's going to be a while before she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/788">TS</a>]

00:13:09   learns that that's just a nice thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   do and that she'll appreciate it too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   it but you know honestly you'd get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   with a lot but bullet number two this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18   huge and I did not get this I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   looking through I was like I know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   a Buddhist it was like looking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   the text you know I i'm looking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   part about how to lose my ego but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   learning that the real point that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   brutal Battle my boot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   that's right that's what is that number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   12 wrong 12 huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   I look there get him up there looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   back don't talk about bike club that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   number 16 there are no harmony but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/819">TS</a>]

00:13:43   this is Africa where i first read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   but I promise is one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47   that probably had to read 11 times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   before really sunk in and this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   makes with Judith Judith manners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   what's-her-name you know the leading up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   yeah miss manners but dude Martin cheers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   me up you're just matters is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   learn that the point of etiquette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   I'm going to say this slowly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02   carefully even though I know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/842">TS</a>]

00:14:03   this for our listeners the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   etiquette is not to be fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   it's not to be prescriptive it's not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   have a bunch of rules for no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   other than to try and make people feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   bad no quite the contrary and take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   exists to make true etiquette when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   get down to the real like like black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   diamond level of etiquette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   it's not about rules it's about doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   everything you can to make other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   feel comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/867">TS</a>]

00:14:28   that's right and that's what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   don't understand if all they do is read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   the rules and correct people on whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   using the right tertiary lobster fork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/873">TS</a>]

00:14:36   then they're missing the point the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   is not to make somebody feel bad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   their fork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/879">TS</a>]

00:14:39   the point is to now we know that at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   point in the meal if we've all read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   same book we know which ones that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   to use and we we can enjoy this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   ultimately it's not making somebody feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47   welcome and not make it a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   even if they put a glass in your table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   is not a coaster like find a way to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   them feel at ease about that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   make them feel at ease but you're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56   trying to make each other feel at ease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   and that's what etiquette is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   that is the that is the judo of Miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   Manners because I was trying to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   of a second ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/905">TS</a>]

00:15:06   not only was she not reach out to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   and like touch your napkin but she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   she would see would somehow make it seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/911">TS</a>]

00:15:15   like a your idea and that she that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/915">TS</a>]

00:15:19   know that she was there to help you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   she was there to the as you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   make it easier gently got my toward this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/923">TS</a>]

00:15:27   thing that's very sensible get you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/927">TS</a>]

00:15:28   coaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   oh let me help you you know she it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   varied it's a very gentle but firm kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/932">TS</a>]

00:15:36   of knowledge of the way things are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   you're right it's like it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   rules of language with this debate is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   happening all the time why why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   doesn't language why does an English now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   just become a free-for-all why why do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   follow these archaic grammar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   spelling rules wide why don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   everybody just be talking how they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   be and you know of course i am on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/957">TS</a>]

00:16:02   side of I am on the side like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   members of the french academy i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   that the language evolved just fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   right up until the point that i decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   that it should stop the who but no i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   mean i love i love the evolution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   English but the core rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   I adhere to and I espouse yep and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/979">TS</a>]

00:16:25   I think we can all anybody you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   done a little bit of book-learning may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   even been to college will appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   fact that the language evolves it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   has evolved it will evolve but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   II it let's put it in the simplest way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   it's nice to know the rules before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   break them and its really nice to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   the rules before you unknowingly break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   them because all the older I get and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   more I don't always speak with precision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:49   but when I do speak with precision and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   helps me think with precision because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   words mean things and this these five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   words that people use almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   interchangeably really mean different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   things and the subtlety of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   differences in their me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   thing is really amplified when you use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   them correctly somebody something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07   is I think it really does matter it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:08   doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   somebody asked me the other day you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   i'm somewhat not notorious but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:14   Phyllis naughty not even infamous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   there-there water but they don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   think lauded that I there are three to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:22   five percent of the words in English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:26   that I pretty clearly mispronounced and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:33   someone said to me the other day like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:37   you always say that word wrong and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:41   know that it's wrong because like other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:46   people have surely corrected you why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:50   you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:50   why do you still say that and so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:53   other words like wrong and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:59   about it and I said well I do not prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   the way that everyone else pronounces it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   and and she said but I mean that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:11   it's pronounced and I said but I'd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   just don't prefer it be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   borrowed the equal a little bit at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   word she was referring to was the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   that everyone I guess agrees is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   pronounced comely her which I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:28   prefer i prefer to say calmly she sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:33   much nicer she's a comb lee young woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   comely does not sound like a compliment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   come way is a disgusting word coldly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42   a beautiful work and it is not a comely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:46   young woman selling the victim of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   unexpected bukkake that's right a comb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:50   lee young woman is the opposite of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   homely young woman she's calmly that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:56   good and that it is how I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   preferred it is your prerogative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01   that's right and so and so when people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   say comely i flinch a little roux and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:07   when I say calmly it usually like around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:11   and this is the problem because around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   the room it takes people a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   to figure out what i'm saying let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:21   guys they gotta think a little piglets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   right that's a little mobile forgive me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   I made you think a little bit and so my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:28   hat there are so many words like that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   my like private lexicon that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:34   mispronounced because my pronunciation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:38   is the one I prefer yeah I i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   remember if I invented this probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   hurt read this somewhere grudge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   pronouncing em hard to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   oh you're very good at that I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   care of some things that I will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   say a certain way and I'm happy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   other people are starting to to pick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:55   artisanal are saying I don't know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58   artisinal that's just that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:59   that's that's disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   are you saying that it's not artisinal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   it all baked goods artisinal otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   it wouldn't be baked goods what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   wrong with you know I really you you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   hired artisans is that what you did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   hired an artisan know you never hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   nervous and you know you hired some you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   got to come in and make your buns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16   you don't know what an artisans there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   don't know it feels themselves that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   right it's like you can call yourself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:21   poet you can see you're right verse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   should never say you write poetry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:24   yeah let your teacher let your teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   praised you don't press yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   yes you know what we should write a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   John I don't want to make a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   about it but I'm just saying there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   lot of ways that we can help people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   what I don't understand for my as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   i can tell from my whole life i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:39   said saw Squatch that's it that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:43   received pronunciation that i received [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   sauce one Sasquatch during that during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:48   the Bigfoot during the Bigfoot flare-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   in the sounds of the seventies Bigfoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   flare-ups that's right there had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   Bigfoot's before big feet before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   sorry bro she might think it's big speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   big it's pig's feet justice gentle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:02   Bigfoot's big feets with had been seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   historically and then there was a rash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   there was a rash there was a there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   rash their members and underage boys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   search of in search of hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   with the Bigfoot screaming in the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   and now the screen out that it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   the Bigfoot Bigfoot that with the blurry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   footage that's that's in Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20   right yeah that's in Washington say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   have a lot of Bigfoot here big feets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   persons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:25   and and so I always said sasquatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:29   yeah but apparently somewhere along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:33   line everyone else in the world agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   that it's pronounced Sasquatch which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   think is a terrible terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   pronunciation sasquatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   it's vulgar Sasquatch comely Sasquatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:45   it's it's a saw Squatch saw Squatch it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48   not so much prettier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:49   isn't that Muhammad delicious soft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   cheese wouldn't you rather be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   Sasquatch of the Sasquatch and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56   can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:56   what about words were losing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   niggardly this very very difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   get away with niggardly today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   well yeah the problem is that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   it's a word that it's a great word that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   so many dummies have have so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:11   dummies have blanched at it that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   people in between the non dummies who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   know what the word means still feel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   since India airy because non dummies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22   have made a practice of worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   what dummies think this is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   book this is that like half the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28   with the modern age they're all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   middle these middle non dummies who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   who are like walking around on pins and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   needles because some dummy might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   misunderstand just to capture as well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   think that one appendix in our book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   definitely going to be the taxonomy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   dummies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   oh it's going to be like a big pyramid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   we could go on and on about dummies but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   it used to be this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   middle-middle let's call the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   dummies middle dummies used to aspire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:58   attract the the praise of non dummies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:03   and now middle dummies only inspire our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:09   middle name is now only act in fear of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   like a and in fear of the dummies you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:18   see what I'm saying I think so yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   not really explaining it very well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   it used to be that the middle that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   middlebrow aspired to the highbrow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   neither one concern themselves at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   with the lowbrow but now the lowbrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31   dominates and the middlebrow is is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   pins and needles at the prospect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   offending the lowbrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   so they did they devote all their energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   because you know that because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   highbrows out of fashion the highbrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   has all these overtures of are all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:47   a like these like native negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:52   connotations of exclusivity and wealth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:59   and and privilege that there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   privilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   yeah but also warring with the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:07   dummy middlebrow thinking I kind of want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   to appear a little fancy made me so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:14   when I want using middle-middle would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   save middle dummies middle brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   Tommy's I think of like what's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   example were coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   um who shall attend the opening of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:28   rectory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:29   yeah whom shall with Margaret and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:33   like well you got like three problems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36   that one like there's there's like goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   several different things in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   sentence that didn't really need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   that way I really feel like home shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   would be a great DJ named DJ DJ whom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:46   shall yeah lets you know I've never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:50   worried about fancy you know like fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   is this and I think that this goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   to the to what you were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56   before the the great influx of Irish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   into Appalachia like there's uh there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:03   all this appellation worry about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   being too big for your britches this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   sort of Nashville concern that you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:11   act above your station and that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:17   the whole class structure that that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   to be a part of is gone now and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   just this this residual sort of grease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:25   stain in the culture of of uh of of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:31   feeling that that that that lines up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   with all these other aspects of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   culture where the lower the the lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:38   and the cruder is considered more real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   the more the more vulgar is the reeler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:45   oh yeah yeah because it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:46   language of the quote-unquote people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   closer to the truth and it's not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52   to cover up half-truths with with fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   words right and so that has that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   this false friend in a in a kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:03   in the humility or the you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06   desire not to be a not to brag or to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:11   sure to put on airs and that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:15   false friendship with with the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18   vulgarity is closer to truth has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20   produced a culture wide sense that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:27   we should I mean seriously that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   should be a flying in their pajamas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   which is which is as you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:35   beginning of the end and I'm speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   now as a as the the human envoy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   UFOs yeah yeah somebody who gets gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   out of the shuttle to the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46   vehicle with the buckwheat pillow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   already around the neck you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   that does not this is not a society that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:53   is ready for any kind of serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   advancement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:55   yeah no not at all because these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   people who are who one of these days are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   going to go through airport security and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   it's going to that it's going to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   direct them right into the Soylent Green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   grinder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   I used to think it was just peculiar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   this show that you would talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   airport security locking but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:13   starting to think that that whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16   comes from the supertrain generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   there's going to be something involving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   something like the TSA line because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22   seems to me that that is the nexus for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   everything that drives you crazy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   the contract they are tits it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   like it's just like the walgreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   situation they're training us they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32   training us through this gradual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:33   increase in indignity to just go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   the hopper just go through the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   branding cage into the you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   just feeding us through what one after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   another and now they're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:46   x-rays of us naked and we just we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   say okay and then that's great stranding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   cage and the indignity has become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:53   patriotic absolutely and then pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   soon after the after that after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:59   x-ray they're going to have us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   walkthrough a darkened tunnel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   just a short dark and Tommy will be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   to see the end and then pretty soon it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   gonna get a little bit longer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   gonna have a turn it so you can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   the light at the end but it's ok you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   trust us like I've got a temple grandin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   think that we just have to send you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   through this dark tunnel that has a turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   halfway through and then at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   point the turn is going to get closer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   it's you're gonna have to you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   have to get through a little like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   gate or a little kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   uncomfortable squeeze in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   that's right the Patriot tunnel has two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   let's find that your address the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   problems with terrorism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:33   that's what we have to do and then one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   day you're going to turn your squeeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   through that little gap and turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   corner right into the right into the saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   blades don't call it an abattoir that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   a little too fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46   it's called it's a freedom knife room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:50   right into the saw blades I elected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   have a pat-down search the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   nice and it was so invasive and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1735">TS</a>]

00:29:02   characterized by a kind of like finality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:06   like I said alright I'm you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   I'm not going to go through your x-ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:10   machine I'm i gotta i'm on a layover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   here I got three hours to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   I'm going to see what this i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15   get the pat-down how do you like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   apples right and so the first thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   do is kind of trying to dissuade you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   like oh it's gonna be a long time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:27   yeah I know it's gonna be a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   like I'm I'm i got all the time in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   you guys put your leather gloves on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   let's go and so then they assure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   through the little gate and they hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   you over on the side while all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   people go by and I'm standing there with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   a kind of superior look on my face like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43   I got the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   let's go through the pat down and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49   here comes the guy and he's talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   somebody across the room and he puts his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   puts his plastic gloves on and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:58   starts giving you a full-on fucking pat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   down like he doesn't do that date rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:04   the explanation usually do the date-rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   the explanation likes or I'm going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   formally touching your generals yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   right i'm gonna run the back of my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   across your anus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   maybe some of that but I mean like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   away they go into your pants now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   don't go into your pants a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21   they do and right away I regretted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:26   regretted coming over like this was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   much more vulgar then what and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:32   whatever year of my life i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   lose by being irritated by a teenager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   operating a machine made by Halliburton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:41   and sold to the government you know 450 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:45   times but its list price should be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   but this guy you know some dope is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   like he's just pressing on me in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:55   that is transparently unnecessary like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:59   honestly I'm you know like I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:04   that that you have to do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   people could self-select and then be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   covered with plastic explosives but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:13   this is a that there's a punitive aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:17   to the way that they do it like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:18   clearly punishment meant to dissuade you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:22   from ever doing this again yeah if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   kurt vonnegut alien were to like write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   paragraph on what he or she alien was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   seeing they would basically say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   they're there is a system that is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   place to make sure that everybody will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   follow in a necessary rule and anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   who doesn't follow the unnecessary rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   will be made uncomfortable in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   other people for not following a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41   necessary role that's what it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   looks super super uncomfortable and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   know I like spent the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   afternoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:46   kind of like a fugitive Edward punitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   it's it really it really feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   we're going to make an example of you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   away some of your time you know how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   can eat this is for me to be so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:55   easier if you just go through the porno [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   scanner but now i'm gonna make this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   little uncomfortable for you but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   uncomfortable enough that like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:01   actionable it's going to just be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   humiliating for you so I'm traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   with my family of the day and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   encouraged them all to get get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:12   pre-check card back when I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   there was any value to the pre check on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   this story on another ship tell this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:20   where you go John has been approved for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   black diamond lane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   yeah and we get to the airport and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26   print out our tickets were all traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:27   together we're sitting next to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:28   other now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   there's four of us and two of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:33   have pre check on the top of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:36   ticket but I and my three-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:39   daughter do not have pre-check and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:43   get to the we get to the woman at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:47   security desk and she points half of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:53   party down the pre-check lane and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   of our party into the other leg and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   said you know we're all traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59   together and she said doesn't matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   I said you know this is a three-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   girl like do you honestly believe that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:11   would I mean is there a terrorist in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   world who would who would take his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:18   three-year-old as a as a false as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   false flag as a as a beard a bomb beard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24   three-year-old baby that this person has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:29   already their mind is already shut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32   sir I'm gonna get this individual to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   move out of the pre-check lane now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   so you know so right away you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   you're in the hopper and if you make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   fuss about it you just it's there's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   one option which is that you don't fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   today like the police come because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   either you acquiesce or you don't fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:53   and we get all the way you know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   standing there and I'm like taking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   belt off and i'm taking my wallet out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   and I'm just feeling like so much i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:05   just feeling that that perfect storm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   resentment and frustration and Bend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:12   powerlessness little bit of resignation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   well but i can't succumb to resignation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   that's that is the that is the flaw in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   me I mean the word the word that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   to mind this is not a word that i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   lightly because it the connotations but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   i think it's it's frankly depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   it makes me depressed it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:28   depressed how much clothing I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   take off to go get on a plane and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   stand there in and get dressed in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   of other people I'm not like a modest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:36   person but there's something actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   depressing to me that this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39   what it's come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   it's deeply depressing and and and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   and he you sit there and you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   you could not you could not design a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:50   system that is more sort of like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:55   just the lowest level of the basement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   right you can't complain about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   because it's such a low level it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:04   a like mild shock you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:08   enlist I mean even the fact that you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   I are devoting this much time to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   there will be a certain number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   who roll their eyes and say whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:19   firstworldproblems whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:20   yeah people who don't travel yeah wh-who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   like to say first world problems in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   response to things that they don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   to think about but like culturally to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:31   have arrived at a place where there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   no there is no way that you can assure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:38   the world you cannot either there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:42   bona fides right you cannot say can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:46   just accept that I am no threat to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   everyone like it is not necessary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   assume mrs. the thing i guess it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:54   necessary for a civilized society to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   assume a priori that every person is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:59   threat until proven otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   and the and it isn't a one-to-one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:04   correlation that either everyone is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   threat or we have to we have to target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:11   people by race you know and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   this is the premise that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   advanced us like well either everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   has to suffer or weed or or we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   resort to profiling because those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   the only two options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   it's like no those aren't the only two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26   options they really aren't like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   are a lot of people of all races colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   and creates that are no threat the vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   vast majority of the number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   who are threat are such a tiny miniscule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:41   percentage percentage of a percentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   and that that are only as happy as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:47   people as a civilization that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   only solution to that tiny percentage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:55   that every single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56   who wants to move about shall be treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:00   shall be debased and treated as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   criminal like it was that each person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:08   who wants to travel for pleasure or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   business needs to be mugged by a cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:14   before they could just move you move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   the next stage to the next stage of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20   is going to be a further debasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   process like you know now you have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25   now you have been x-rayed and fingered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:28   and now you have to go sit in a broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31   chair in a fart tube and maybe you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:36   get half a can of club so that while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39   plane sits for three hours on the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   like like this process is like it speaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:46   to a brokenness in the grand experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49   which I am of which I am a vocal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   proponent of you know the idea that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   as human beings are evolving positively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58   and we and culture is evolving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   positively and we are we are building on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03   what we have made and we are creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   that we are working toward a utopia or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:10   working toward a betterment of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   condition as people and I I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:18   believed in it and this kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   like bass police state ism is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:28   antithetical to it and it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   depressing it is humiliating and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:35   infuriating and I cannot resign myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38   to it i don't i don't know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   protest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43   which is part of the part of what see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   Millie ating but I can never just I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:49   never walk up to that security line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   just turn into a cow because because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:56   really do feel like there will come a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:57   day when they will like when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   going to start hurting a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   percentage of the people over into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:03   dark room and you never see him again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   totally and it's it's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   problem is that it's a proxy war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   I think you need to be very careful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   life about how many proxy wars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11   decide to fight because when you start a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   proxy war you your you go beyond some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   kind of in like an initial problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   whether that's on a proxy war starts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:22   with a good enough idea which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   there's this thing out there this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   really bad thing that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:27   it's really really bad thing that almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   happened and now we're going to put all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   this stuff in place to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   never happens again even though we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   really know it's never gonna change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   what's already happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:36   it can try it's already happened but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   there's going to be this whole new set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   of of new I mean how many people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:45   died in a having a department store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   bombed in the eighties by the IRA really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   had that strong of an opinion one way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   another about how things went with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   troubles that's an extreme example but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   in this instance now you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:59   that the most obvious example being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00   the underwear bomber the shoe bomber or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   the whatever bomber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03   I mean our response to something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   didn't even work like a bombing tactic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   that didn't even work that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08   implausible to begin with is to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   everybody take their shoes or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   so now we've got this entire force of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   people who aren't even cops r sub cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   are there barely security guards they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   know it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   this is well-documented they know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   all this stuff is theatrical but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   have to take extremely seriously and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:25   there they are I you know different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   screen but perhaps perhaps I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   someone understandably they're mad at us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   if we don't play along because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:31   just doing their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:32   we're trying to do our job just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   normal people but now that proxy war is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   is it's taking on this just the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   dignity of being just a normal American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   who can move freely and trying to as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   say put us through this little this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   little sluice of indignity to make us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48   kind of kowtow to this the basic concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:52   that we are being protected by doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   this and we are not being protected by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   doing that now that's that's the that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   the really galling part of this if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   honestly thought there's 2,500 people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:03   this line right now and we know that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   of them has explosives in their ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   by all means why would say maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   cancel the flight if you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   don't really know that but you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   going to search everybody's ass for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   balloon full of explosives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:15   no because you know it's all bullshit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   you know that none of that stuff is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   and it is about more than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   firstworldproblems it's about this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21   country where you used to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   move freely and be able to to do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   now you show up on lists and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   know why and you can take it off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   list but the proximal part I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   becomes important because now like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   kind of proxy war that you start out by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   salt non non solving a problem or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   non-problem and now on top of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   you've got all of these new problems as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   a result of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:42   well the primary new problem is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:45   cannot be alone in in traveling through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:49   airports and basically thinking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   entire time about all the different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   i would i get all the different ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   could sneak a bomb through here if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:57   really wanted to that that's that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   just that was just going to say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00   this to me became extremely icy this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:03   probably one of the three times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:04   travel i see this exact same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   happening each time it blows me away is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   that you'll be standing there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   watching people you know seeing little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   kids get search for bombs and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   somebody pushing a what i would estimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   to be probably a 100 gallon garbage pail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   on Wheels is waived through yeah because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   they're an employee now they have a pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   and they've been checked and stuff yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   so somebody making ten dollars and fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   cents an hour gets gets wave through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   it's not a question of class it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   question of just read one fucking spy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   novel and figure out how you would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   you know what you would do you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   just go to pilot and have them do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   it's not gonna be it's not gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   old lady with the medicine and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   gallon of water who doesn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   the 3-ounce rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   yeah anyway I everybody's like the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   or exactly but that but then that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   what you have these knock-on effects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   proxy wars maybe not the best term for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   it but I think when you when you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   have these little of the dramatis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   persona of people who are trying to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2578">TS</a>]

00:42:59   a life play out these little political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   plays and then act you know we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04   supposed to act like we know anything's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   fucked up about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:06   I mean how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   an intelligent person do that for ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09   years and feel great about it and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   really proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:12   well I the thing that concerns me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   that something i really do feel this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:18   something has been lost in in the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   and just the span of my adult life where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:26   the where the idea of a of living by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:32   example has as almost like completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:38   gone awry in our culture and has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:42   replaced by this like this cultural war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:47   of that that's that's happening in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:51   thousand different ways that don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   to be detailed but but the the the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:56   the idea that that at as the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:03   States in our role in in what we used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:07   think of as our role as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   aspirational nation where no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:14   where you lived in the world right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   would aspire to come to America to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   free and have opportunity we should that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   impossible things can happen and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   could be sustained at scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   yeah and possible things and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   criticisms of that that America's wealth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29   is a result of exploitation of a nun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   exploited country that we stole from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   people and center etc etc all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37   taken in and and you know like accepted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:41   and assumed as valid criticisms still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   the United States as a democratic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:45   experiment was for a very long time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:50   place where human ideas taken from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:54   around the world were sort of put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   practice like let us try these ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:01   there are there are innumerable ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   that there were secret societies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:07   that the whole thing was just a CIA you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   know like a fake radio station the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   entire time etc etc but in but in actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:16   fact like the human experience the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20   was and is still being played out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:24   America better than anywhere else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   more on a greater scale and with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:31   with more factors right there's no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   place in the world that has as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   people of different races cultures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   creeds who all trying to come to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:41   consensus live according to common rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   and end with a system that allows those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   rules to evolve in real time to reflect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:51   new ideas and new cultures coming in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   know there's that the the rules in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   america are so much different than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   were 20 years ago and for the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   because of the influx of all these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   ideas and we are like uniquely flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:06   to assimilate all these different new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:12   concepts and and a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13   flexibility is because of our diversity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   but something is something is lost now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:19   that we are not we are no longer leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:24   by example in terms of assuming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:29   taking acceptable risks that yes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   are gonna get hurt that yes it is messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   that yes every once in a while every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:39   once in a while somebody is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   sneak through with an underwear bomb you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43   know in all in all frankness because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:47   cannot eliminate all crazies you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:52   you cannot you cannot stop all predators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:56   and it's crazy to try and so somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2816">TS</a>]

00:47:01   somewhere on the scale the the practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:05   of of democracy and the practice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:09   freedom has to look like it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:12   has to this is my this is my beef with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   washington DC right now you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   going to washington DC when you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   kid he walked right up you driving down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   Pennsylvania Avenue standing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   sidewalk get your picture taken in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   of the White House it was fun it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   open and democratic looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   you know the President of the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   States lives right there in that house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   yeah with glass windows yeah and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   there's a fence because he doesn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   people playing frisbee on the lawn but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   that fence is like just offense and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:48   there are security people but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   see them and this is the end and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:54   the capital where were all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:55   government is he like it's all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   here laid out in this beautiful city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   it's not it's not deep inside a a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:04   yea even even if there are bonkers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07   but the appearance of of america was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:11   like very appealing and very open and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   that was intentional even even as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   were fighting wars and into China on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   sly but now you go to Washington DC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:22   it looks like an armed camp everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   you go there are black SUVs full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27   black-clad machine gun carrying secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   service and land park police and fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:33   different kinds of cop the entire area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   around the White House is barricaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:39   with tank traps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   I mean seriously like tank traps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:46   black hawk helicopters are flying over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   the city at all times and again it is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   you're saying complete security theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   but it's one hundred percent the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:59   impulse that isn't the theater that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   need to be playing our theater needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   be the theater of confidence and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:08   calm right and to play this theater of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:13   like of of a security state is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:17   deeply anti-american it is profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:21   anti-democratic and like fills me with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:26   rage because it's an insult that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:30   your borders on treason an insult to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   idea of America and that the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:36   I love about America and the America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   that I would die to defend you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   I and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   all of the like Eagle tattoos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:47   freedom chance or whatever are our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:51   garbage jingoism if you can't walk down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55   the street in washington DC without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:56   feeling threatened by our own police if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/2996">TS</a>]

00:50:00   you can't fly from seattle to san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   francisco without feeling like you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06   not just under surveillance but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   presumed guilty right can demonstrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:13   demonstrate test that you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   threat it's true it's that it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   it's antithetical to the American Way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   and end into the american way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   existed all the way through the Reagan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   years all the way really through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   Clinton years and again I hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   chorus of of finger waggers who want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:35   tell me all about the secret secret like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:38   behind-the-scenes governments and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   that but I'm talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   appearance the the temperature on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45   street the feeling that America had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   other places didn't you know if you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   off the subway in berlin in 1987 yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:54   there were there were armed police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:57   standing around because the presumption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   then was that there were a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00   Soviets on the other side of the fence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   but in America there were not tank traps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:07   around the White House you know if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   tanks get that far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:10   he didn't hear and I know that the tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:13   traps are there to keep to keep Timothy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   make V and his freightliner van truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:19   from getting up close enough to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   White House to like break the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   but but it's a you know they're there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:28   a way to close pennsylvania avenue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31   decorate it with flowers you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   are ways to do these things and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:39   not appear that you are that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:43   playing a video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   it seems like it's such a dick cheney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   move it is it is and that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   because that's what I think his legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   that then some ways like one of his many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   wonderful legacies for this country is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   going to be shit like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:55   just you know that the entire theatrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   thing that is going to keep you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   will pretty much any c- attacker from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   really doing anything to us what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   remember that scene in California a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   years ago where those two bank robbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07   had machine guns and they walked down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   the street some supposedly with impunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:14   just firing their machine guns all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   around and the cops the the story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   the cops told you have enough firepower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   day when Carly outgun yeah and and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:25   2,000 cops were outgunned by one guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:30   a machine gun and his friend driving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   car and so the the response from law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:38   enforcement nationwide to that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   listen the bad guys have these really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   powerful guns and so we need to we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:47   to Double Down we need to militarize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48   because there are these these bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51   with guns now look through the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:55   of America there have always been bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:56   guys with guns they have always had as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   as modern a gun as you could have right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   i mean the sniper in the clock tower in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:07   austin back in the sixties was a Marine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   sniper with a sniper rifle just shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   at students like its it was never a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   question of firepower but because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   guy's gotta gotta automatic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   semi-automatic weapon you felt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:22   immediately like all of a sudden the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   cops wearing black fatigues everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   and they're driving around in in SUV's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:30   with blacked out windows and the police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:34   have always wanted that but there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:38   civilian checks on that kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   like the civilian population said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:44   general we don't want the police driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   around in tanks looking like just stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50   oh it's not what we want we want police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53   walking swinging their billy clubs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:58   harassing teenagers but sitting in soda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:02   fountains and we you know we like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:03   want the police to be to protect us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:07   look like they protect us to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   members of the community and in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13   the police have have through the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:18   sort of hero-worshipping cult and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:21   the general militarizing of the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:24   States now everywhere you look the cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   have their have combat boots on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   pants are bloused they're carrying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:32   sometimes three guns and they look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:38   paratroopers and particularly at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:42   kind of big gathering all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   they even the cops that are in normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:45   uniforms run home and get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   paratrooper outfits on and what and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:51   kind of job you dressing for at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   point exactly what you're my kid is lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   in a department store or something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   something something happens in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   somebody has to go up and ask for help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:00   with something you are now walking up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   somebody in paramilitary gear with three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   guns like what is that person's job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   what is their job and what do they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   their job if you saw you if you spent 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   years of your life walking with three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   guns and body armor all the time you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   not going to think of yourself as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   community police office that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   the right of yourself basically is Army [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   Reserve and if you if you are coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   a peaceful gathering in your town in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23   town square and you show up and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:24   are a line of cops dress like army [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:28   rangers on night patrol do you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:33   them for help if you if you lose your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   wallet or do you mean do you like stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   on the other side of the square and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   them warily like not take it a step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   further for that matter if you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   something is kind of odd or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49   you know you want to make a note about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   to somebody i'm usually something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   want to say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:54   well kind of but I mean yet obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   obviously if you find this terrorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   that you have to tell them about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   just something as simple as like I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   be I would be it seems to be inadvisable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   to go to to go to that particular arm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:07   law enforcement anything but like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   desire for deadly enforcement i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:13   that that that you know the the finer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   tools are not going to get used nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   as much as like pepper spraying three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19   that's exactly right like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22   these are not police who are who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   projecting that they are helpful or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   they are kind or the day are thoughtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   or considerate you know the area that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   they even human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34   they basically they likes nitin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   stormtroopers a loaded term but in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   sense of being like an anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   enforcer of some kind of in order that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:44   you never even heard right so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   forward a couple years from now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   the technology to have one in three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:52   those people be a robot but that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55   mean we really are like like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   somebody's i read on Twitter the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   day that somebody's I thought really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:04   really smart comment that people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:08   always bitching that we were promised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09   flying cars but if you were born anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:13   after nineteen seventy what you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   really promised by science fiction was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   dystopian police state and in fact II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:22   the price of the promises of science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   fiction are coming true so quit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   bitching and it was it was a very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:29   tween but also like it really resonated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   with me like oh right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   if you were born in nineteen thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   maybe you were promised flying cars they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:41   are like a house of the future yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   right like this lesson kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   high-tech leisure that was all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   World's Fair 1962 popular science kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   of stuff and by the time 1980 came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   around science fiction was just like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:55   yes it's going to be a cesspool ruled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:58   from on high by robots and either you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:02   are either you're living in a space pod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:06   you're needed here living on Elysium or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:09   you're not you know and and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:12   the the the solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   you know we have to start now and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   have to start now by not resigning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   ourselves to to these minor indignities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:23   up on behalf of the TSA like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:26   possible to roll back the police state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:29   mentality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30   but it requires that we have that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:34   resume a mentality that like cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:39   wide agriculture wide a mentality that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:44   that favors peace and tranquility and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:50   consensus over divisive pneus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:54   and-and-and in a way that means that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:59   hyper hyper worship of individuality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:05   needs to be somewhat tempered you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:09   the idea that every single person has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:12   right to whatever their to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:18   myriad like bullet points they can come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:22   up with to describe their own individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   identity like that premise that each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:27   person's individual identity identity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:30   it is a is a status rather than that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:36   each are that our status is derived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:39   through the like the the welfare of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:44   group you know that no one of us has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:48   status greater than another if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   lowest part or if any if any quadrant of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:53   the group is not like well cared for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:56   then we all lose status and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:56   then we all lose status and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3596">TS</a>]

01:00:00   that's a lost art and it it was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   articulated before because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05   presumed in a lot of ways and on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:10   sides now every single person has every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:16   single person in America it has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   kind of strange combination of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:22   Appalachian frat boy like rebel status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:34   you know what I mean every single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:36   is a rebel now and if everyone's a rebel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:40   there will never be any peace we all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:45   deserve to live in a police state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   because we're all rebels all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:49   and I'm stealing cultural pop-culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52   rebels or you mean like like a going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54   the compound kind of rebels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:55   I mean I mean we easily been talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   about like like just coming up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   multi-purpose artisanal entitlement what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   one person at a time i mean it when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:05   think about it the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   unifies a like a newly out trans sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:15   worker and a Alabama frat-boy investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:22   banker deacon in his church the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:28   one thing that unifies them is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   neither one of them is going to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   anybody tell them what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:34   neither one of them is going to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:37   anybody define them right and culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:42   now we that this dominates our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:46   conversation on every side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:47   political spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   nobody's going to tell me who I am or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52   what I can do and I can be anybody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:56   want to be and you're you're not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59   boss of me like that's the that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:02   American consensus now and it is dull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:08   it's dull and Italy it leads us down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:12   this path where we are children and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:16   the cops are doing what comes natural to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19   them which is we need more guns we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:23   more Thor tie so that's the cops that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:27   what they will always do its what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:28   they've always done right but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   one to stop them now they're never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   to say you know what you have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   it's not the cops job to say we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   have a more civil society and when so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:42   police we're gonna we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:43   accomplish that by putting our guns away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   like the cops are never gonna do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:48   right that has to come from that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:52   come from well and it has to come from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:56   new a new coalition of people from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3776">TS</a>]

01:03:01   walks of life who say no my you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:06   individuality does not take precedence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09   you can tell me what to do i will i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:16   agree that although this law does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   seem to apply directly to me although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:22   don't have any kids and I am being taxed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   for the public schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25   I'm gonna just I'm just gonna I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:28   I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   it's not that I'm gonna just give stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:33   complaining about my taxes to the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   schools i'm going to group i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   gratefully give my tax money to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   public schools to educate my neighbor's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   kids because that's how you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:46   better world 20 years from now and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:51   one's preaching that anymore you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:54   that I think that used to come from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:57   used to come from the youth from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58   church's it used to come from the from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:03   the from just this your your your normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:07   sense of community it wasn't a thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   could even reasonably argue it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   the john birch society and the wingnuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   way way out there would ever argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:19   we shouldn't be taxed for public schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   I I guess I just feel like the the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:24   the stuff that involves me and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25   there's there's a you know it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   the the boogeymen of the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31   dystopian futures that we call out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   worried about but there's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   particularly enduring about Kafka to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:39   because in a cough go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   navalur Kafka story it's the the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:46   that's the most disturbing as you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:47   know why it's happening that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50   thing that's the thing that really gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   me so I take your point in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   about things like the police that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:54   their job right i mean the police are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   always going to want things that make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:57   easier or less difficult to do police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   work the people who gather intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:00   are always going to want everything they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   need to make it less difficult to gather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   intelligence is never going to be a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:05   when they say you know what we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   need all these phone records the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:08   the part that I find so troubling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:11   the part that I think is going to lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   to more and more credibility problems at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   various many many different levels is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   that this whole like well this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   how it is that that's the dick cheney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   this of it you know is the like is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22   wait no wait a minute wait a minute no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   I've got photos here of what cops look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   like 20 years ago I got photos now what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   they look like now there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29   probably real good people but I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:30   tell because they're wear masks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:33   why is that and when do we get to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   that just how it's gonna be now and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   why is it why is it that this person got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   picked out of line and not that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   why is it suddenly I mean it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:42   much opacity to this all-consuming need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:46   to control all things that I i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   don't have a prediction on what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   going to lead to like a revolution or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52   something but i think it's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:53   hurts the credibility of of anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:56   who's trying to do something good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3958">TS</a>]

01:05:58   is when you increasingly say things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   you know you you can't fly and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03   even tell you whether you are on a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   and what you can or can't you do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   it i'm not even having this conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   with you right now that's that then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   to me that's why kafka kafka ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   component of this is what makes it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15   deeply troubling it's one thing to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   like okay there's a real bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   there's this classic villain who's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:22   all this bad stuff to that but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:23   get that feeling at all it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   again though whatever the hunterian like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26   finality of evil thing it's just a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   of people doing their fucking job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   it's their job is to create more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   more opacity about this non solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:36   what's increasingly starting to seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37   like an unsolvable problem what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   problem the problem is security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   what was that mean yeah like what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   how much further do we have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   I mean how much further will we go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   these directions where things just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49   getting weirder and like the more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   we asked questions about the more the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   more suspicious that we've seen and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   i'm not i'm not a wing night i'm not out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   here saying like I don't even have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   conspiracy theory i just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   understand how how you can be a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:04   member of a democratic society when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   you're just not allowed to have basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   information about why things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:09   operating the way they're operating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   that what what's what's terrifying or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   what is what is so dispiriting is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:17   Obama was running for election the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:20   time all this stuff was true it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:23   happening all around us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   i mean the the fact that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   Department of Homeland Security is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:31   called that like it was I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:36   it was the I thought it was the broadest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   parody in the world until I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   they were serious yes like homeland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43   it's as not see a thing you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   anything he just it's like father llegan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   honesty file and got crossed off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   fatherland security is exactly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   is and so so but we've accepted that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:57   don't even say Homeland Security with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:58   sneer anymore but what Obama was running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:01   he was really selling it to us that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:06   was time for a change and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:07   obviously that was his slogan but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   yes it is time for the left and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:14   left's traditional relationship to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   cops and to the army to step in here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:21   we need to we need to cleanse our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   palates we need to have a juice fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26   nationwide juice fast and we are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:30   to poop out some hard and fecal matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   and we're going to come out the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   side and we are going to demilitarize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:37   really was a big part of his message and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:42   closing Guantanamo and all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:46   like restoring the rule of law actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:49   one point say that he was going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:50   the most open administration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:51   yeah it wasn't an actual words that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   out of his mouth that they were with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   and even as the the number of these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   National Security Letters has gone off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   the charts and the numbers are just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:04   not adding up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05   well and the tenant it isn't just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   but like he did he he he eliminated not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   a single thing and so when you look now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:13   at at at without that the past six years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:18   and you realize that obama and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:22   administration have us have accepted all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:26   of those george bush era like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:29   militarization as fait accompli you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:34   know that a Hillary Clinton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   administration is not going back is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:40   going back any of that stuff off either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:42   like she she has to appear to be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:46   hawkish as the most hawkish Democrat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49   because she you know to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:50   traditionally that would be the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:53   one attack you would make on a on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:54   female president is that she's not tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   enough you know she's not going to roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   back any of these security platforms so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:02   what you what you could have come to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   that really the Democratic Party the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   left the left choice in America is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:11   as invested in a police state as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:14   right and it isn't it isn't working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:18   anymore they're really does need to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:21   new conversation where we start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:26   premise that we are not at we are not at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:29   in constant war will instruct the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:32   premise that this guy's this is fucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:34   it's just that it doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   there's any everybody seems to be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   of grimly nodding along about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   horrible situation that nobody likes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   we have to deal with and I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   feel like there's been like a collective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:45   exhaling where everybody goes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48   what this is fucked up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   we need that we need to we need to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:51   couple things we need to get our mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   right about a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:54   yeah we don't want to be we don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   to be dummies we don't want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   attacked like because of carelessness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   but like our AO but I mean how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02   longer can we keep moving in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   particular direction and you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   close your eyes and think of England you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   know it's like there's something's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08   to happen we just go look at its fucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   up the exhale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:11   yeah i mean III don't know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   looks like and is a fucking hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   politics knowledge but i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:16   don't know what I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:17   what what kind of solution you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   because that that's a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   nobody wants to have nobody wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   the one who stick their head up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:24   especially to try to get into office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   everyone's just like you say nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:27   wants to stick their hand up and go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   know what this is this is pretty fucked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:30   well and what it was having a week isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   here the other thing that John is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:34   we can't even really know how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   terrorism has been stopped because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   that would be alright secure them to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:41   us know what's actually happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43   yeah I would it would be dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:44   because not every third person walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   through an airport is thinking now if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48   had a coke if I let's see if I had three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:51   shampoo bottles that were full of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   three components that make plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:56   explosives and my friend had three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   shampoo bottles like how many terrorist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   plots have been foiled like okay let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   assume all of them or I mean it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   irrelevant ultimately to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:09   question of and this is the this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:10   question of automating armies you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   and this was the problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   invasion of afghanistan in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   place before we even invaded Iraq there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:20   was from Rumsfeld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23   this like a hard-on for technology where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:27   he felt like he wasn't going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   put American lives at risk in order that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:34   it was going to be thought it was kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   thinking in it seems like he thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38   was going to be basically like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:39   Allies rolling through Europe in World [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:42   War two but with like space lasers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   Spacely dragon and give us flowers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   there are the Americans little American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:48   flags being waived and our guys would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   have the big bubble helmets on and walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   around space lasers space lasers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54   maybe talking to each other on heads-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:55   displays and the Taliban would lay down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:58   their guns or their sharpened sticks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:01   whatever it was that he thought they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   and we would be greeted in Afghanistan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:07   like liberators and conquering dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   finally the Americans are here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   everybody knows in Afghanistan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   Pakistan traditionally they welcomed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   invaders and yeah but that but the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:21   and and the military keeps moving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   this direction like it would be good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   business is an American invasion you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   know you know what people love ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   they love to see American invaders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:31   particularly robot engagement i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:34   actually see their faces but I bet their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:35   nights but like with their the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38   military's talking about this like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   one-in-three one in four soldiers now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   being a robot in the next 20 years a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44   serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:45   oh yeah this is this is their new this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:46   is that this is the big position paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   now that the and a big part of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:51   like to be the support staff can be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:55   be replaced with robots oh no not drone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:58   planes but like drawing people from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4438">TS</a>]

01:13:59   people absolutely about copy like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:02   like a drone vehicle that yes vehicle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   person but it would be a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   they could reduce the living humans that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:09   was that constituted a brigade and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:12   have a brigade strength who of force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   because they would replace the humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   that they're taking out with robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:19   helpers and you know and then robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:23   friends and then yeah robots you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:28   first row first the robot cooks yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   then the robot ninjas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   ok maybe yeah maybe maybe they could use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   like farm equipment they could kill two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   birds with one stone given maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   can have robot farm soldiers well even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42   with it will be a grenade thrower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:43   then he'll be pulling a plow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   yeah or maybe he could help pull out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47   some you know some of the natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   resources get out some of those metals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   right it looks like super training also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   digging diamonds it's a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56   military diamond taking soldier bot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   yeah but but what that person with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:01   presumes is that whatever foreign policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:05   work were trying to effect is not worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:08   in american life and if and if we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:14   remove American lives from the equation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:17   then we no longer have a problem at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:21   because we no longer have moms on the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:24   crying about their dead is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   and if we if we are no longer losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:30   soldiers and if robots are cheaper than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:34   soldiers and they are then it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:38   not like we would never reduce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:39   defense budget we would just have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   and more soldiers more and more robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:42   soldiers and with with less and less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:46   political cost less and less investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:49   and how much much lower threshold of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:54   engagement like already we are bombing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:57   people from drones and that and despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:01   you know we have a we have a listener on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:04   the line who is a drone pilot were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:05   aware of that really talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   yeah and he has a BS very strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   feelings that the drone program is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   ethical and that you know under tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:16   control and is a you know is a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   to our country and he he's written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:22   book about it that he sent me and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   very interesting book but this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   standard the ethical standard for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:30   it takes now 44 American technology to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:33   kill somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:34   i mean it's it's been on the on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   for a long time but but and it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:40   carpet bombing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:43   car bombing a city from 50,000 feet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:47   like drone attacking somebody in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   desert of Yemen that there's not a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:53   know you can't really make a case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   carpet bombing is any more discreet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58   certainly but you know we're right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:01   against the Monroe Doctrine here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:04   know we r we r do we are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:07   assassinating heads of state of non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:11   states in in in contravention of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:14   our own law and and what we are and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:20   we're trying to do is eliminate our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22   investment in the sense of if we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:26   take our soldiers out if we can take our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:29   human cost away and this is true of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:32   it in the police to like they are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:35   willing to put a policeman in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   situation where he might get injured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:39   because it looks bad and it feels bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:43   and so in order to keep the policeman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:47   safe they militarized them to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:51   that we are now facing a wall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   black-faced like armored cops and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:59   step of the way it's like right i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   want a policeman to get hurt either but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   actually the risk of getting hurt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:07   part of the job of being a policeman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   if you and and and and the reality is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:14   you send one cop in his shirtsleeves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   into a group of agitators nine out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:21   ten times he's going to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   relate to them on a human level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   defuse the situation and if you send 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:29   cops dressed as robots to confront those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   agitators ninety-nine percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   time it's going to turn into a fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   and the and the risk has to be that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:40   cop 1 out of 10 * is going to get hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:43   and if you're not willing to take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   risk then you set up a situation where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:50   worth what we're all fighting always all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   the time and nobody saying please and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:58   thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   mmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEPIWHxI/4740">TS</a>]