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Roderick on the Line

Ep. 97: "With Buckethead"

 

00:00:00   well surely shovel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3">TS</a>]

00:00:07   get the boom daughter nothing then their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/7">TS</a>]

00:00:17   10 haha don't kind of photo lowdown do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/17">TS</a>]

00:00:24   that's the way it ought sometimes he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/24">TS</a>]

00:00:31   sounds like barry gibb to me over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/31">TS</a>]

00:00:35   and then other times like ninety-eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   percent of the rest of the time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/37">TS</a>]

00:00:38   sounds like the songs the beatles should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/38">TS</a>]

00:00:41   have done instead of breaking up this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   was the covert mission statement of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   move the move said when without the move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/46">TS</a>]

00:00:50   excuse me LOL so after the move was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   when the movie is breaking up Roy Wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   and him said that they thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   would be basically picking up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   beatles should have going yeah yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01   I think appropriately they're picking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   with the beatles would have been if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04   they'd stopped in 1967 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   uh-huh if they if they had alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   universe Beatles and 67 had decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   follow George's impulses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   hmm they would have ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   yellow if they decided to keep making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   like a better version of magical mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   tour maybe I don't know there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   of better versions of magical mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   tomatoes made three of them probably was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/86">TS</a>]

00:01:30   your time I have to have something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   this the other day was there anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   beetle who had the creative a trajectory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/95">TS</a>]

00:01:43   to have been to have gotten out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   liverpool on his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/108">TS</a>]

00:01:52   the question that's like when you first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   of all I already really liked this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55   second I think you could argue would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/115">TS</a>]

00:01:59   have been Ringo interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   already had a career with Lori storm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   the Hurricanes tried he was the B was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07   the the cat she was the big the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08   cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   yeah it could have gone to London and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   been a session guy easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   this is he just drive right there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   like Lenin was just lettin what it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   self sabotage ER mm he would have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/138">TS</a>]

00:02:22   ever like independently become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/142">TS</a>]

00:02:26   musician certainly no bigger than Rory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   storm who was a much better looking guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   better suits you know how you Rory storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   put on a show for Christ's sake is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   gentleman Lenin would have been better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39   when I'm not gonna do that or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   it is you know I can't really do a linen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   hi I'm I think it's a really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   idea and you know we talked about before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47   like how you know a lot of people even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50   who are like kind of intermediate Beatle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   fans don't know exactly like how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   the time John Lennon was unhappy he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   a very unhappy guy mad mad and like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/177">TS</a>]

00:03:02   but after I mean I i had not prepared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   for the beatles episode as well as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   probably would've but I would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   if you look at the first couple records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   cool man i think the heart and soul the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   band clearly the best songwriter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   pound-for-pound was John he's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   the band to start i mean ii we as I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/198">TS</a>]

00:03:22   know you'll side with me unlike notnot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   slag and Paul in any way at that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   that but Paul didn't i mean the the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   bloom when Paul started really find his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   own when John got super depressed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   start smoking weed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/211">TS</a>]

00:03:32   I think Paul really ran with the ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   but if you go back and listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35   first few records the most distinctive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   stuff about what made the beatles the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/217">TS</a>]

00:03:40   beatles was a songwriting but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43   think John really propelled data on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   first couple records especially he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   you know John had John made 13 pop music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/227">TS</a>]

00:03:51   sound compelling through the application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/231">TS</a>]

00:03:55   of his anger like teen pop music is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   unless there is like anger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/239">TS</a>]

00:04:03   desperation behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04   and John had all the anger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   desperation Paul you know he was a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   older than Paul over but I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/248">TS</a>]

00:04:12   you could I think if certainly if Shawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15   Nelson were here he would be mad he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/255">TS</a>]

00:04:20   would be mad he would be standing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21   with his hands jammed in his jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   pockets but try trying to figure out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   polite way to excuse himself but if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   were here and engaged in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   conversation he would make the case that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   Paul had Paul had the talent Paul had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/273">TS</a>]

00:04:37   the the possibility the capability of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40   getting out of liverpool on his own but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/280">TS</a>]

00:04:44   I would argue that he didn't I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   without I think I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   absolutely right i think Ringo probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   could have made a made a go at it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   as like a player but you know George was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56   going to be a junior high teacher John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/296">TS</a>]

00:05:00   was going to be a a guy at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   the bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/303">TS</a>]

00:05:04   it's got sick jon is going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   alcoholic he was going to be an angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   alcoholic at the end of the bar who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   worked at a shop in like a manufacturer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   all working in nursing home playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   piano that's right that's absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   right paul wood pulp would be probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   yeah at the at the at the other end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   the bar you know playing playing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   father's favorite songs and lemon water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/325">TS</a>]

00:05:28   would have hated his guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/328">TS</a>]

00:05:29   yep it but like I think you could say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   mean really up the clock when I consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   really the classic period everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   really up to around the time of magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   mystery tour in Nam they really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   let's just establish magical mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/341">TS</a>]

00:05:42   tour tonight sand here's the way to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   if a Beatles records good if you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   away the singles is it still really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   yeah and they've got that yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   submariner a couple where you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   mmm yeah not really album lot of vinyl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   had to die for no reason but the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   is the two of them really did propel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01   each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/361">TS</a>]

00:06:02   iima a mature student this I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   books about this i've read the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   the whole attribution of like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   different people think should get which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09   credits on which songs but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   input fairly incontrovertible thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   even up to the time of I'm gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   let's just say we can probably see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16   through revolver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   they were still hugely influential on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   what made it onto the vinyl you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   like back in the day I think there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/383">TS</a>]

00:06:24   you can if you listen to stuff he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   sold and kind of stuff that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27   listen to right now you can you can when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   they got their mics on and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/389">TS</a>]

00:06:30   you can get here like how much they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   wrote that song together and then soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/393">TS</a>]

00:06:37   enough you start noticing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38   oh you know John definitely worth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   bridge on that or more often like Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/400">TS</a>]

00:06:41   definitely read the bridge on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   Ryan's probably didn't write the verses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   but the performance they just put you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   push each other so far forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   yes don't you and you can even after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   even after it's evident that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   writing independent of one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   they're still writing to impress one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   another you can hear Paul like Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/418">TS</a>]

00:07:02   being deeper than he may be was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/422">TS</a>]

00:07:07   first pass he did the first pass right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/427">TS</a>]

00:07:11   he was like this is amazing i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   melody but then he added an element of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/432">TS</a>]

00:07:16   he you know he added an element of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   tension narrative tension to impress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   John and you can hear that in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   oh yeah and then you know John less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26   trying to impress Paul but more trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   to compete with Paul and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/449">TS</a>]

00:07:33   trying to trying to shove yesterday back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/453">TS</a>]

00:07:37   down his throat and I think ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/457">TS</a>]

00:07:40   failing failing to compete with Paul's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/460">TS</a>]

00:07:45   like pop generating like madness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/465">TS</a>]

00:07:51   ultimately in failing to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   resented Paul turning in that turning in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/473">TS</a>]

00:07:57   that direction of like accusing Paul of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   doing the same old thing of creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   music accusing Paul of being predictable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   intervie all these kind of like bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   accusations that are really because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11   couldn't match he couldn't match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/491">TS</a>]

00:08:15   yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   oh yeah I i agree and also two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/496">TS</a>]

00:08:19   first of all like I think there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   whenever I think about themselves their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   writing songs together i always think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   about that one guy coming in with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   know apart like good parts might maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   version of course maybe something like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/510">TS</a>]

00:08:30   and I always imagined him in a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   favorite Beatle songs what the other guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   maybe there's a lot of my favorite songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   are primarily Paul songs but i imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37   John coming and going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   not so fast right so Paul coming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   going not so fast right and then because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44   like it's almost like a debate like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   of my favorite people sighs I'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   to think someone stole my head but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   Paul has written this beautiful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   thing that works as a unit within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   bridge the turn if you like is John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/533">TS</a>]

00:08:57   giving a rebuttal em and that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   that that's where that like that perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   amount of cynicism comes into it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   that's why the bets why those wings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   records are such a turd piles as part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/544">TS</a>]

00:09:12   it and the base got louder and louder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   but you know this is this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   really reductive but if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17   a good pop song like so many pop songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/557">TS</a>]

00:09:22   there's got to be a part that's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/562">TS</a>]

00:09:23   building tension is going to be a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   about releasing tension and the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   productive way to put that I mean it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   that like a lot of times especially I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   saying things like new wave an indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   rock em maybe you have like this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   minor chorus verse it's all about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/577">TS</a>]

00:09:42   know kind of like tension building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   then they'll be this then the poppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   explosion comes on the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   explosion but it could be you can invert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/587">TS</a>]

00:09:48   that but you know saying if you have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   if you have all like a 3-quart song with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   all major all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   no minors on the bridge nothing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   that it just that you get the ramones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   which is fun for its tight but even they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   knew when to throw in a minor chord that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   you've got to build it up you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   have like two cars take a touch-and-go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   right all i need is what you've got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/605">TS</a>]

00:10:09   incredibly angular addicted to bear if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   I'm talking about em okay you think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   has got to be the weirdest sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   verse of a song I've ever heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   and then the course goes no didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   didn't didn't didn't think you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23   to like how could this be the same song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   but it kind of works yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   you know Sonic Youth sonic you songs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   like this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   they'll be like that you know this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   of symphonic like explosion in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   chorus is after all this angular stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35   going on the verses and it happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   pretty much every beatles song that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38   to I at when i'm sitting in trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   write songs which i have been doing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   the last six years and failing part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46   what I'm part of what I aspire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/646">TS</a>]

00:10:51   because i think if you listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   long winter songs the verses are the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/652">TS</a>]

00:10:56   life of the tune is all in the verses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   verses are exposed ettore it's they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/658">TS</a>]

00:11:01   they're you know they're kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   listicles they are not listicles I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/663">TS</a>]

00:11:12   I don't I don't see that at all and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   it comes to the chorus and there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   there's an attempt to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   explosive pop you know indie-pop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   and now here's the chorus and half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   time it ends up it ends up being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/685">TS</a>]

00:11:29   pre-course to a later course that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   I tried again but I mean I'm up the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   verses are where I i really like express [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/694">TS</a>]

00:11:39   everything I need to express and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   I'm trying to tie it together with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   with a with a fun chorus / and what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   been trying to do for the last six years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   and failing is making the verses as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/708">TS</a>]

00:11:52   catchy as the choruses and making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   choruses as important to the song as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59   verses we're still at the same refrain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02   right it's not just it's not just a one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/722">TS</a>]

00:12:06   word over and over it's behind the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   girl teaspoon teaspoon teaspoon I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/727">TS</a>]

00:12:13   when I was when I was writing that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   i really felt like each iteration of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   word teaspoon what I was conveying a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/738">TS</a>]

00:12:22   different just different aspect of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/742">TS</a>]

00:12:27   that how a teaspoon played into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/747">TS</a>]

00:12:31   narration right i mean the TSP as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/751">TS</a>]

00:12:35   item to cook your heroine a teaspoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/755">TS</a>]

00:12:39   as the most diminutive of all the silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   where's etc but i didn't have but i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45   not i but but that was that's pretty you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/765">TS</a>]

00:12:52   know I would I was counting on someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   writing a dissertation on it later i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/775">TS</a>]

00:13:00   not actually completed not actually put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   all those different meanings in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/782">TS</a>]

00:13:05   lyrics i tried to communicate those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   different meanings in the different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   that I saying this one word and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   know that's very that's frustrating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   me as an artist because my meaning will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/793">TS</a>]

00:13:17   never be clear unless I explained it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/797">TS</a>]

00:13:21   what's what's great about great pop song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   is great about the Beatles of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/806">TS</a>]

00:13:26   yeah they come in and say oh we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   mean LSD Lucy was Paul's and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/808">TS</a>]

00:13:33   diamonds were his you know and it sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   but it's a lot of unnecessary explaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39   that's just obfuscating trying to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/819">TS</a>]

00:13:43   something that simple seem more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   difficult and in and and my problem i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/825">TS</a>]

00:13:50   perceive my problem as a songwriter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   be that my sons are impossibly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/832">TS</a>]

00:13:56   difficult than i could that then is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/836">TS</a>]

00:13:59   evident and explaining them is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   a dumb or after the after the fact you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/842">TS</a>]

00:14:08   know you're like you had a chance to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   it in the song and you and your you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/850">TS</a>]

00:14:14   hoping that people are telepathic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/854">TS</a>]

00:14:18   I like that about your songs i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   they you know you wouldn't say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   know this is a song about that and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   this is a song about this feeling I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   like that about and I it doesn't read as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   and to just go to the other end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   continuum i don't i don't think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   till they don't feel like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   deliberately opaque and no no right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   yeah knowing that some of them are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   puzzling little puzzles but I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   ever feel like there's some kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   they're like a mystery song like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/884">TS</a>]

00:14:45   actually he was dead all along or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   something like that helps right now yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   there's no there's no trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   yeah I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52   had been trying to write songs that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53   like here's the here's the verse it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   just as poppy and melodic as a chorus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   and then here's the chorus and boys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/898">TS</a>]

00:15:02   fuck it fuck that melodic and poppy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   also tells you stuff it also tells you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/904">TS</a>]

00:15:09   stuff about the song and the the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/909">TS</a>]

00:15:13   even think about anything about witness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/913">TS</a>]

00:15:21   is that Paul stopped caring whether his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/921">TS</a>]

00:15:25   songs meant anything uh hot story ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/925">TS</a>]

00:15:29   did care really needs to be one wing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   song and I had I mean I i personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   owned at least probably three wings 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   she's pretty big deal because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   eight at the time but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   something great like live and let die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   crazy wackadoodle there's really only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   one song you need to hear to understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   wings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/946">TS</a>]

00:15:47   yeah i think well there's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   several one songs you can hear but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   going to say the major was a little lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   uh oh man suffer a jet jet don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/952">TS</a>]

00:15:57   who such a good song girl huh i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/957">TS</a>]

00:16:01   amazed i'm gonna stick silly love some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   oh haha first of all a is the base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/964">TS</a>]

00:16:07   definitely check yes that the base is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10   way too loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   it is a canonical three chord song that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   would not have gotten past the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   table read in The Beatles the baselines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   great do-do-do-do-do you can sure hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/980">TS</a>]

00:16:23   it because it's nice and upfront but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   here so we got you think people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/985">TS</a>]

00:16:26   have had enough silly love songs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   it's just pretty much straightforward a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   love song oh my god I'm are you i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   already seven years old as soon as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   start singing I'm just like what's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   with that like to know because here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   go together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   and then I haha you know that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:46   John yeah arrived upon the scene get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50   drunk it's that right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   yeah what's wrong with that I'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   know because here i go again and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   John would have said something to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   effect of why do I keep going again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   he wouldn't be able to brought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   counterparty let's go wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   yes yeah I'm here's what's wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:09   yeah I do have a problem i got a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   fucking problem with silly love it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:15   lot more complicated than that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   at the end you got that little like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   of kota it's dropout they do it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:24   and you get just a ah oh my god it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:30   nine feeling that you look Baba [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   Blackwater keep on rolling and hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:37   taking a lot of hand-wringing I loan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   that's that because at that point at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:43   that point Paul felt that every idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46   that he had was the greatest idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:50   is so high he did not need a second idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:53   he just needed the one idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   Oh a hundred percent in OB story to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:59   you know it's a and everybody was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   okay that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   sure let's say your culture whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   say buddy i was thinking about Billie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   Jean it was simply having a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:12   christmas the pump and what was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:17   that's like the biggest selling single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   of all time writers that Moloch entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   ohmic entire article song that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   was mark entire was like the hugest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   biggest UK i think until bohemian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:30   rhapsody probably but if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   beat it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   no no I'm sorry bility boot don't do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:41   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   alright dynamite dynamite baseline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:47   through and you listen to the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:50   recorded in the way it tucks into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53   like it's really menacing it's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:57   menacing like super dark and the bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00   tone is she is shaped in such a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:04   it can just you can just it's not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   your face right that baseline could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09   been like Quincy Jones could could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   doubled the volume on that baseline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   then probably when they were mixing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   they tried it you know like let's put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   this all the way forward like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20   dynamite but like part of its Menace is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:24   that it's like it's kind of subsumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:28   like overtime but what got me thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:32   about this was i was walking along and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   was singing billy gene and I said to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:38   myself when about what's the baseline to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   this song it is the greatest bass line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   of all pop music but i'm having a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   time remembering it and i'm walking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:48   lot of like billie jean is not my lover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   and I couldn't recall how the base went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:54   is it the same is it that same rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:58   kind of figure through the Saw III don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:04   to do is be so it's kind of starts on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   weird wacky will know so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   always unresolved right is divided into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   20 so so good so good and a thing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:16   thing but like where we're in the Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:21   McCartney arc creative ark would he have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:25   left behind any chance of writing Billie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:30   Jean playing it it was 60 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:34   I don't know I feel like there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   wonderful stuff at the end to ever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:41   but I just feel like there was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   restraint the restraint that is on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:48   first couple of michael jackson solar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   the I mean I guess it's that Quincy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   Jones still had some i still had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:59   Authority in the picture where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:02   probably the last three Beatles records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   there was no authority left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   let's also gets yelled it also is I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   going to say it's about Paul but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   even sure of michael jackson was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11   first of all they're both just natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12   musicians and and musical people i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   i really think Michael Jackson probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   had something almost like a four track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   in his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   you can imagine what that stuff is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   he's doing a dance singing the song is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22   going to catch a case like figuring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23   out so Stevie Wonder making those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   records where he would play the drum I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   don't I just that's completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   mind-blowing to go and play the freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   drums to the sufferer get to pay my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   electric bill you know but think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35   the timing on that because you got off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   the wall and which is also amazing offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40   wall and thriller are both pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43   but you know it's you know what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46   generous of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   they're pretty good but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   thing about both of those as with Paul's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   rise to power circuits 65 was the timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:54   was the taste that Michael Jackson had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   within the context of having quincy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   jones as a producer his taste got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   channeled in the best conceivable way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   Paul I mean Paul wrote you won't see me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   like what a fantastic song with great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:11   edginess and like every part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   song is pretty much I mean it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   want to say that it's just about perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   song i think that one of your son's butt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   but you know the things he had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   channel that through a room with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   guys in it and which on it and with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   know and with the torsion right setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   up in the sitting upstairs but the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   of taste that makes one of the richest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   man in the world right simply having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   wonderful christmas time the timing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   taste is off the timing is wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   there's nobody there he's getting all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   these like George Lucas there's nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   there telling him like you know you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   got to stop you got to stop doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   yep i don't i was listening to the radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   the other day driving in my car turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:50   on the radio do duty it's going out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:55   mouth bass show ending we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:59   everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:00   and and this band comes on and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   like saying Bruce Springsteen song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   you're probably seeing the pointer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   sisters version of a pre spring song I a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:13   song comes on and i'm having this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   same experience that I'm having a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   now and listening to modern music which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   is I said its people or property talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   it said this is either a James addiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:30   like outtake i had never heard before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:34   which I know it isn't because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:38   no James addiction outtake I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   heard or it is some new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:44   jane's addiction that Perry Farrell has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   recently put together with with bucket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49   head and a Michael Schenker and sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:55   haha i think that could so happen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1435">TS</a>]

00:24:00   was so having which I haven't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:05   anything about but that doesn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   it's not it doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   I bet they've taken smoothie that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   have been fully sat down with very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14   Farrell and was like who can we get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   make sure that scene from godfather to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   with the gold telephone like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:22   you mr. shaker German when i wake up if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:27   there's a bag of money on the table were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   diagnosed I know I have a partner for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:33   this is a another example of this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:37   of owl city situation where a band is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   just staking their claim on reproducing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:46   with no imagination reproducing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   sound of a earlier bandit and in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   like yellow me it is amazing no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   no that's bad that little Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   account taking pictures of any legal its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:00   yeah exactly yeah i mean at yellow have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   this overarching concept like let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   in the direction that the Beatles would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   have gone if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:13   had like stuck around kept taking acid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16   headless maybe he'd listen to george a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19   little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   listen to george a little more had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   24-track and the white cello and piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:26   white jello like basically when ya right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   went into a like at basically expunged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:34   the Blue Meanies and went into a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:38   magical mystery tour that was not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   was not characterized by total dread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   like let's say okay magical mystery tour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:47   if magical mystery tour was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   response to the death of brian epstein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   yeah right let's say that up here anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:56   but this band so sorry i do this i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:00   the the the the shazam alright i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:05   this on the tutor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   yeah and it turns out that it is a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   that it's like a young band on on our a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:12   record label and they are making it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:17   basically like in this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   about Jane's Addiction like jane's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   addiction was already influenced by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   doors enough let's say jane's addiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   was already influenced by the doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   enough by ten percent too much but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:33   new band their insight their innovation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36   i guess was to hear that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   already too much doors in Jane's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   Addiction and to just add more doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   like it's just that it's just everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46   about jane's addiction with that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   like my Guantanamo band about my stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   music well I take this big into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:55   floor hit you with some cold water and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   then play this really loud take a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   it takes them up and caught stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   we had a little more breakfast I'll to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   it so all of Perry Farrell's all of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07   the tragedy in perry farrell that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   a junkie that he is a freak in a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   that doesn't accept freaks that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   like a sex uh he's like a set was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:19   the second people that we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20   about the goth expand person he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   pen person and so in inherently going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26   be unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:26   the rest of his life because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   it's can't be a bad person and find and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   no true happiness all of that is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   it's a race because the singer of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   new band is 22 and has no pain and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:41   add more doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   uh-huh and i'm just i'm driving in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   car i'm like who I i mean i don't blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:49   the person that signed it I don't blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   the label that's putting it out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52   that is the state of music today it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:56   that I heard that owl city song on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   radio and I did that she's amber I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   like all right this sounds like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   guess right it was our city it was Al [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:05   it sounds exactly like you like a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   the Postal Service would probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   put out us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   that's exactly right that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   that the Postal Service would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   rejected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   yep that Ben would never have done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   yet all of his vocal mannerisms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   there but none of his vocal none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   local characters that are the qualities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   none of the yet none of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   make been an interesting or quirky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29   vocalist it's all been smoothed out it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   all been Pro Tools the way and shaved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   down and yet there isn't any new there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:38   no new creative information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   it doesn't sound like an evolution of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:44   it's just a it's just a polished it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:48   like all the good parts are are smoothed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   off and so when I'm thinking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   music that I'm trying to make now which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:57   is like unlike Michael Jackson in 1982 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:04   mean this is that this is what's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   about that trying to think about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   the Beatles and 64 five michael jackson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:11   in 1980-81 were they aware that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:16   were like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:20   such like kinetic communication with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   their time that they were like that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   were one step ahead but not two steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:28   ahead from their moments or were they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   thinking to themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   we are so far out right now we are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   far out and it was just that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:43   that we were ready for it and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   time the first time we heard it we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   like what is this crazy music but by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   fifth time it was it the world had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   changed you know what I mean like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   yeah I don't know the answer but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   trying to figure it out i think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   Michael Jackson I'm I mean just knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   what we know and kind of reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00   engineering and I think he wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   thinking of it that way you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   he was thinking like I'm gonna shake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:07   I don't know he just strikes me as a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   like is weird like I was like he seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   really admirable especially at that age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   where like he just seemed like he seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   like he was such a creative like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   wackadoodle guy like I just watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   people dance and he wasn't yeah really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   dedicated to the craft of making a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   know in the same of appeals were making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   music at a time when a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:27   thought rock'n'roll was dead even then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:30   mean Michael Jackson comes out even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   without off-the-wall comes out with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   the greatest disco album of all time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   when disco.is.dead not the greatest but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   it's definitely one of the most creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   and like that that album off the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   I think off-the-wall you know because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   wasn't quite as ambitious i think it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   some ways is a it's an idea of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   thriller sounds updated in some ways is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   the problem interesting you and I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   you and I go around these production [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   things but the songs I mean you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   about what you have like six seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   singles from that record something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   that i mean you know every song on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:02   yes so i don't know i mean i added the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   the problem seems to come later on in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   career when somebody following your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:09   the problem seems to come later in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10   career where somebody thinks that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   time to really think it's where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   but again how do i get ahead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   curve but whatever I do it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   Rockettes not roll em but thats and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:23   know and that's why sometimes like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   time there's a new paul mccartney thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   I kind of make that noise I exhale and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   go home there's gonna be probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   something good here but like how could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   he be like a 70 year old guy and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   not know how to balance a song just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   don't I mean like I I feel like I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   it as long as good as public art me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   these days like these there's gotta be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   some balance to it there has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   something more to it than just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   reiteration or a list or or just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   same theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   this is going to be some tension is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:55   gonna be at 95 upon the show haha and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58   just enjoy yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   who let the madness in the music it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:05   you after is a bad huh haha little the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:11   wall without of all and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:17   couldn't sing that ok where's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   baseline ready you do nothing dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:24   getting do like how great is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   baseline it is I mean their tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   bass line cementless that I love you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:39   the thing is he's talking about Linda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42   and I can listen to the songs like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:46   think I think that music was the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   of my youth and so I had no awareness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   Linda really or like Linda represented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   nothing to me then so I have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   sympathy for them because it's the bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   that's the songs of my childhood but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   overlay my my adult overlay of like paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:06   and linda with their simpering romance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:11   and they're like are just picturing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   vegetarian meals are just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   canoodling together on there like fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   sheepskin rug Paul playing I love you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:25   her and her I I don't know what clasping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   her hands under her chin with cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   hearts floating around here even think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:31   he turned down in the mix I mean what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34   what like Linda is such a cipher to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:38   i have no sense of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   but I believe I I have to say I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   believe that they thought that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   matters this is a really dumb thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47   say but i think they really loved each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:49   Lou except i have known enough people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:56   who became famous in their early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59   twenties to know that it destroys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   humanity to be to be famous before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:09   age of 28 is a burden as a psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:14   burden on a person that that handicaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:18   their emotional development and Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:22   McCartney was of the most famous of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   people and clearly an emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   handicapped person anyway so although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:34   do believe that he and Linda love each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   loved each other because that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:40   story that i have been told by them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   I cannot imagine paul mccartney loving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:50   really because of his humanity being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:56   crushed because yes because because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2096">TS</a>]

00:35:00   sat in that hotel room in new york city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   after the ed sullivan show with a cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:08   right didn't have a cold butter now he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:12   had a cold I think and the streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:16   around the hotel were thronging with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   screaming girls and although he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:23   sitting in bed with the with an ice pack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   on his head and a thermometer his mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   disease clipart there were like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   photographers in the room but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   couldn't even be sick without right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:36   without life magazine janji no did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   break up in 1970 the beatles yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   60 70 71 like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   no nose before 71 and 72 McCartney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:48   turned 28 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   but that your base and turn it up but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:59   remember duff mckagan was rapidly when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:04   he first started writing for the Seattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   Weekly he was also going to seattle you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:10   getting his degree i think or maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:14   a master's degree i'm not sure but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   was taking classes he was writing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:21   column for the weekly just started and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   you know I feel like Duff Duff was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   rock and roll from the very beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   like his life right he was in bands from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   14 on he was in guns and roses and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:36   he he kind of hit this there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:40   period of his life where gnr was over he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   was recovering from the drugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   everything and there was that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   a kind of period of quiet in Duff's life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   where he was able to say like go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   college and like i'm going to write for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   the Seattle Weekly and like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   kind of take another stab at life from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:02   from like what I think is an amazingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:05   humble place can you imagine like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:09   another guy with Tufts stature showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:14   up for class at Seattle you like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   little kind of Jesuit college in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20   middle of the city like he he went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   class and SAT there with his epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:23   presumably not at leather pants and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   taking like sociology 101 or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   mean very humble attempt at really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:34   can't imagine that is what makes it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   interesting is because when he's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   know I i realize that he's a guy who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   a life before and after and raised in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   your your your powers of the many sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   like I'm like I'm amazing weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:47   down-to-earth god I mean especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   given what his body's been through but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   no I can't because I picture it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52   like a second life sketch or somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   there's a headlight somewhere about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   guy from Guns and Roses goes to college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   and that's going to be like a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   sketch where there's a guy with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   bandana [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   you know with his base later on the task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05   more cowbell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:06   yeah well and and i think it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   enough time had passed that most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   students in his class were not really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:13   mean they had heard of guns and roses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   but it wasn't like he was in class with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16   a bunch of people that were pawing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   him but anyway in at during this process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:22   he forms velvet revolver and so he's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:28   one point he tells the story where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   in a hotel in rio de janeiro and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:39   trying to finish his term paper so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:44   up in the hotel on the 40th floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   whatever typing his term paper for his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   his class at Seattle you but he can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:53   concentrate because 200,000 people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:58   chanting his name thronging the streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   because they just played rock in rio for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:07   a million-plus people and so he got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:11   know he goes to the window and he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:12   down in the streets around so tell all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   barricaded and all these brazilian fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   are like chanting and screaming that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:21   can hear it on the 20th floor or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   something and he and he just wishes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   they would be quiet so that he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   finish his term paper thanks and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:31   come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32   where do you where do you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:36   you know but how to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:40   sympathetic about that situation I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   oh ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   translate stuff it's it's it's really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   check your privilege situation but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   imagine paul mccartney going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:52   college in nineteen seventy people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:56   believe would go a little something I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2396">TS</a>]

00:40:05   back to call me i'm beautiful setting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:10   the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   I got to correct something for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   moment caused by Moloch entire Act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   I came out making 77 I don't think only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   late slate later last two years after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   bohemian rhapsody don't know what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21   thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   no I think it is the I think it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   one of the biggest or Lord I'm according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27   to wikipedia which is never wrong right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:29   wing's is 1996 1999 77 release Moloch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:33   entire is one of the all-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:34   best-selling singles in the UK great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   song to sing along the big sing along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   sing alone that's right it's like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   time like that one by Chumbawamba yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:44   that's yeah that's right Macarena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   Macarena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   yeah it knocked down and get nice stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:52   who let the dogs out ah loo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56   I love you know although i also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2456">TS</a>]

00:41:03   listen to what the man said I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   on a 45 to very good song but i just-i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08   come back to jet anybody wants talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:14   about Paul McCartney they get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   jet exhibit a the lyrics of jet jet is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:21   incredible pops off incredible but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:27   just have to you just parse those lyrics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   for me and tell me what that song is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   about and tell me that the lyrics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   that song are not indicative of a hey of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   of a raat ki smoke like a lot of pot i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:42   think paul mccartney probably smoked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   lot of parts okay if you listen to Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:47   mhm it wasn't John his mother holding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:51   for a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   the ball was smoking pot and going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   art galleries when the rest of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   guys all back then now back then this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   the story that everything you and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   that everybody should know you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   tomorrow never knows huh that's all John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   nah i am the walrus that's all John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   right all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   wrong and wrong on know it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:14   very frustrating and you know we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   threatening since very early on and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   seven years we've been doing the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18   we've been threatening to have our Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19   McCartney episode because as much as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   is a frustrating character the band that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   they would not have been that band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26   I mean he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   yeah he didn't even play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:31   rickenbacker bass that long and yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:35   rickenbacker bass forever partner will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:40   heat the hot air base of course that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   like the hot air base was the is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   like early Beatles the super I mean no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   one else who's gonna play off who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   going to play often but violin bass now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   you'd have to be a real thing looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   it was a dare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   yeah right it is so inextricably paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   mccartney but the but for me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   rickenbacker bass that he's that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   started playing at the end and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   played in wings the rickenbacker bass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:10   which admittedly get ely made a run at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:14   having the rickenbacker bass be his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   signature instrument but I mean I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:19   think the early days of the long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:22   Eric played a rickenbacker bass that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:25   given to me by Aaron huffman of harvey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   danger and I gave it to Eric it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:32   I think the at the time not only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   most expensive thing that Eric owned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   little expensive thing he'd ever touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   the most expensive thing he had not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   ever touched but like I gave it to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   I didn't just give it to him I gave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   to him for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   Wow and it was like I think it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:53   somebody handed him Excalibur didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56   even have to port from the stone eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   that look at it as a case that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   and this this rickenbacker bass and Eric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   playing that rickenbacker bass I swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:06   to you it was all I was just trying to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:11   was trying to capture some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   Stardust of paul mccartney and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:19   was the way that I this is the closest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22   that i could come like Aaron hoffman had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:25   30 basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   but the African bakr base was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:30   that I zoomed in on and you know Aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:34   obviously very generous guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   and at that time I you know I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:40   about this a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41   the long winters are such a debt of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:42   gratitude to harvey danger because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:45   let us use their practice space they let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:49   us use their van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   Aaron gave us our base like we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:55   couldn't have we couldn't even gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   out of the starting gate if Harvey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   danger hadn't just sort of handed us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:03   key and said reactor had used the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   know use our PA andar big practice space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   in our instruments i should write them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   thank-you note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14   yeah aaron i mean actually visit with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   him just a little bit but if they strike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   me as very nice man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   no they're pricks yeah you you get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   when you play keys with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   yeah well all people in music or are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:28   desperately broken except for me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   definitely Kagan yeah alright maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   can help you with your songs and quincy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   jones and quincy jones god bless them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   for you get him to produce you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   be something you should go to him we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   should pitch my baseline well he's 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   years old now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42   alright well or something close to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   i'm not sure that he would i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   that he would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   although maybe you know maybe Quincy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:53   would be expensive that are talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:54   the time I had dinner with the Alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   Partridge helpful haha so Alan Partridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:01   came to Seattle to LA I think Alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   Partridge is a TV character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   oh yeah no really thinking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08   valid first organized religion pink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   floyd alan parsons that's right Alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   Parsons Project not the Partridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   lam cai the we are in this guy so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:26   pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   mmm i can be yes oh yes it does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:31   once I night entertainment don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   that one song playing sports and sports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:35   yeah they I thought that they were great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   sounding musical act some amazing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   know he doesn't sing those songs he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   the analyst his people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44   yeah but anyway so I'm sitting next so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   so he comes to seattle he's given to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   talk about recording a dark side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   moon and you know he worked on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   Beatles records too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   he's finally finally agreed to step out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   and finally talked about that haha you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   know you need Alan Partridge he was 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   or something when know what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   making the right out right he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   work out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   I think you did yeah anyway so but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   have produced is produced Dark Side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   the Moon and you know right everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   wants to know like about the tape loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   on money and he was he was very generous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18   about talking about that stuff but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19   afterwards a small group of us go out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   dinner and we arrived at the restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   and it isn't really a small group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:26   there's like 20 people who want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   dinner with alan parsons and we show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:33   and you know he and I had been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   talking at the cocktail party beforehand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   and he was very much like we talked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40   a few minutes and then he candis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   basically said right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:46   I've talked to you now I'm going to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   and talk to the next person because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   this is what I have to do now before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   go back to the hotel i have to give each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   person two minutes of talking and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01   have exhausted your two minutes and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   was like oh I'm fine with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:06   nice meeting you but he was already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   talking to the next person you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   instance say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   you're also we gonna tape loop over cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:15   register and he's you know he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   drinking red wine and he's having a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   time anyway we get to the restaurant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   it's it's a long table so not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:27   situation where Alan Parsons can talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:31   everyone at dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   it's just a very long table and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   rather than sit at the head of the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   moves down to the to the middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:41   table sort of like where Jesus with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   priceline last semester and so he puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:47   his hand on the back of a chair and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   other 19 people at the event all sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:54   freeze it's like a musical chairs write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   the music has stopped everybody freezes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   Alan Parsons has chosen a chair now what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   now where do you sit and there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:07   pregnant five seconds where no one knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:13   what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   no one's going to take it no one's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   to sit down at the end where they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:17   talk to him but nobody wants to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   directly across from him or and his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   is there with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:23   no one knows what to do and so I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:27   well how many opportunities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   I mean whatever the social faux pas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   there are people here at this event who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:36   outrank me in a lot of ways in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:40   who should sit next to alan parsons but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   who gives a fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46   and so I just walked over and I sat down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   in the chair next to his wife his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:53   is on one side you're on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54   that's right back and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   having sat down now everybody else has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59   to school you know like I i got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   catbird seat so everybody else scrambles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   to get like chairs at least in earshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:06   of him and he sits down in his chair he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09   looks over at me and he basically i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:14   don't remember exactly what he said but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:15   he basically said oh you well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:21   you manage to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   there you manage to sit there i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   think he was hoping that it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27   beautiful lady or maybe it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   someone famous but it was me and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:34   spent the whole evening basically just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:37   chatting with him and everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   around us like struggling like like EF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:43   Hutton is speaking the Internet has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   terrible setup for a one-person based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   dinner it was the worst and a loud noisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   restaurant and everybody's leaving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   and I'm just sounds like the Last Supper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   in a lot of ways it was great it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   great although no one betrayed him as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   far as i know but at one point I said so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:03   what if i asked you to produce one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:08   records and he said money for the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:17   amount of money i will produce your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:21   record but it is a question of money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:26   I said yes money to do you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:36   babe him boom boom boom doing to Jean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:42   do but it's still I still think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:46   still think about putting together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   enough cash like to make an offer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:53   Alan Parsons coming out of retirement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   and recording an album for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   why would you do that what would it cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3116">TS</a>]

00:52:00   I just a waste of time it would cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:01   fifty to a hundred and fifty thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:05   dollars it would be obscene i'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:09   what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   but yes yeah as well that's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   wide range but I think well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   think it's gonna cost you less than 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   know it won't cost less than 50 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   think 50 it's it's one of those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   producing a record is is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   like what do you mean seven days right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   it will be all engineered you just send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   him a can or not look like alan moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   look at it was a very handsome man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   well he was now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   it looks like a he looks like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   basically animated a volcano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:42   I love you did or did you do to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:52   pocket really overdo the horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   arrangements to kidney i see i am of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56   opinion that you cannot overdo a horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   and you know i love the horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59   arrangements you you like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   that's when you turn into a real bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   right when you get the horns showing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03   that's when you know you're in a band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   right you said this I and I and I firmly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:08   believe I mean have you seen have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:13   seen the footage of the stacks tour like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:19   England 1960 now Chanel I'd love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:24   it sits on youtube it's all the stacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27   artists at the time like a package to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:31   her kind of thing as a package tour with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   duck done with basically Booker T and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   the MG's right as the band and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:38   every singer salmon Dave a butt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:44   this is that like that steep proper that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   that kind of Korea that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:48   game Muscle Shoals guys and then every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   singer comes out and does their you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:56   224 signature number can you imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59   that and and it's a wonder why I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   only was England it might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   it's some kind of scene where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   audience is I mean it's worth watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   just to see how beautiful everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:14   in 1966 you know like everybody's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   the coolest clothes and the coolest dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:21   hair and their little beatnik beards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   their chunky classes and they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:26   excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:27   to see Marvin Gaye and its Jets it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:33   fantastic but you know but musically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   it's fantastic to but one of the amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38   things about this show is that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   got three horn players i got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   saxophone trumpet and another saxophone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:44   and these three guys are doing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:48   horn arrangements of all that stacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:52   stuff and it's really all you need / you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   get the that you know like on the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   you probably had 14 horns in there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:01   really when that trumpet comes on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   one trumpet does a lot of heavy lifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   for it in terms of like the emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:10   impact even if you just got a trumpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   and like I'm making it again what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   tenor sax those two together could fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   a lot of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:17   really dynamite yeah and I I mean I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   like the trumpet because of the because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23   of the whole elephant six neutral milk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:28   hotel like bolero trumpet thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:32   happened there was a while they're indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:35   rock early days for me early two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   thousands where the trumpet was the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:43   equivalent of the of the head and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   heart banjo or the you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   like the band that the mumford and sons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   banjo is now used on used by every pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:54   and over and I really felt in 2001 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:59   neutral milk hotel trumpet was the was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   the signifier and I so I was shy to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:07   it myself because it was so all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10   they would do it i'm thinking if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   going to get that the song against sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   song with the pic trombone on my kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:18   stuff but all that you'd like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   talking about like airplane of the sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   like an thetic stuff but you but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:26   used it like on shoot scared straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:29   scared straight like that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32   are the songs not pretend to fall that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:33   horse I'm scared straight to me is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34   the big motown number right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   yeah uh let's see what else has horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   well you know a blue diamonds has french [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:43   horn which is super weapon of every of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   every great pop song young French horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   young you got John Entwistle mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:53   oh that's beautiful the guy the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   played on my hydrangeas southern it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   cult that song armor common thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:03   something that I don't song from old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   entire no I am NOT singing now anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:11   French horn very difficult issue until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   you got a fist it and it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   embouchure yeah that I couldn't find at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   the time I could not find a young person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:20   to play the French horn and so I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   somebody to speak Navajo that's right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:26   couldn't find a code talker or no you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   gonna have a hard time getting up one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30   i actually had to use a music teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   high school music teacher that played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   the French horn since that time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   now a lot of kids are playing the French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   or is that a fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   what if you had a role in that yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   you know a lot of people after after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45   Baker Street came out the saxophone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:49   regain my popularity i love that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:59   notice the level the same time with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   the cat member of al Stewart em on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:05   thumb that the God knew the you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   those songs are inextricably linked John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   but that's the second time i've used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   inextricable in this podcast and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   going to use it and cut it out said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   know it's one of those things where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   use a word that is that's just a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   that pokes out a little bit i know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   consider is being inextricably linked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   those boys are snapshots in time for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   buddy but you know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31   connected to for me the television show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   taxi what really don't i don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   tax i just think being a lonely preteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:39   taxi and well you know what is lonelier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:42   about being a preteen than watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   taxis true taxi and Barney Miller dated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:48   a girl in college that had a bob james [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   record straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   sitting around necking and have the taxi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   song come on haha what i've said i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:59   said it before but when you are necking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   with a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:02   yes in a dark room and your CD your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   six-cd changer your bow Bolivar yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:11   don't hit don't know if it flips over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   rush you are in but know if you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:17   if you're making out with a girl in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   60 changes that make which over to John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   Vanderslice is death of an American for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   tracker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23   ah but it is like somebody just poured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   cold water over both the right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   guess there's a certain are contingent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   that would find that very slippery as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:31   well you know what I didn't give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   girl the chance because I lunged oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:37   you're self-conscious at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   well because listen I know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   Vanderslice I love John Vanderslice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   you sir are no John Vanderslice no i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:48   not want to make out with john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   vanderslice like also like like singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   in a British accent my other ear i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:57   one did I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   one did I want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   believe haha yeah maybe you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:04   to make out to your friends see how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:07   gotta think about that I gotta think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   yeah I sleep making up new order oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   that's good makeup that's good makeout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   music and now i have made out a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18   talking about it hurts honey dripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   what honey dripper honey drippers great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:24   makeout music that record grab right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   makeout music and rivers around I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:30   been a lot of kids today have never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   heard on the drama with me ma lo most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:37   the other 10 good rockin tonight that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   was right the big one that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   basically this is the business of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45   is one of the main problems of my life I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:48   grew up thinking that my sex life was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:54   going to be a led zeppelin based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:58   landscape soundtrack center in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:03   that what you envisioned soundtrack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   why's he was thinkin like cashmere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:08   that's right led zeppelin established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   the baseline for what I imagined being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:15   fully adult person was going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   it you know i'm going to reach i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21   to reach the the age of of of manhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:25   and i'm going to enter into this led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:29   zeppelin universe where basically i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:34   having sex on an airplane while all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:38   my friends are codeine that's so cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:43   and the airplane is going to be taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   me to have manners mansion i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   be having sex on an airplane with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   somebody that I don't even know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   plane might be taking you someplace like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   I don't know where montserrat is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   why I want to be having sex on a plane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   that's going there right so so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:01   the language of my early sex life was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   encoded in this looking led in Led [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   Zeppelin runes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   and then the moment I arrived at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:13   sexual maturity suddenly the world was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:18   written in Atlantis Morissette rooms it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:23   was that late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   well I'm an ironic i'm very shifted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:35   say stop right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmENLWksw/3755">TS</a>]