Roderick on the Line

Ep. 90: "A Small Archipelago of Noses"


00:00:00   hello [TS]

00:00:06   I John hi Merlin is going really meant [TS]

00:00:13   got a phone call with John Roderick when [TS]

00:00:20   was the last time you had a chili dog [TS]

00:00:21   can ask a question wasn't really you [TS]

00:00:26   don't do double chili talks count [TS]

00:00:28   I big so I answer just now uh my potluck [TS]

00:00:33   place has introduced a new product [TS]

00:00:36   called the double chili cheese dog who [TS]

00:00:38   is too big old dogs on a bun with chili [TS]

00:00:42   and cheese two dogs one but you don't [TS]

00:00:44   just look at video that was not every [TS]

00:00:47   one of those a tease people haha what do [TS]

00:00:53   you mean you're gonna scare the test [TS]

00:00:55   Iraq where I just had a great Matt a [TS]

00:01:02   bachelor meal [TS]

00:01:03   whoa you know I'm very busy right now [TS]

00:01:05   these are busy times you're very busy i [TS]

00:01:07   can't believe you found time for this [TS]

00:01:08   you you are on TV a good will a few [TS]

00:01:10   minutes ago I was on TV I was on TV [TS]

00:01:12   literally one hour ago and I'm just [TS]

00:01:15   stopping by stopping by the writer from [TS]

00:01:17   the line studios to try and try and talk [TS]

00:01:21   to you for a little while I said John [TS]

00:01:23   Roderick found it and and so you're into [TS]

00:01:27   that you're doing more media others just [TS]

00:01:28   it's it's just a medias it's just a [TS]

00:01:30   storm media and as you know there was an [TS]

00:01:33   election in Seattle [TS]

00:01:35   recently I heard we should talk about [TS]

00:01:37   that is that ok but but I got home I got [TS]

00:01:39   home and I was like I need some food i [TS]

00:01:41   am still not eating carbohydrates and [TS]

00:01:43   it's very difficult to continue to get [TS]

00:01:46   food in your body so hard so I got home [TS]

00:01:49   and I was like what do I have and I go [TS]

00:01:51   into the refrigerator and I'm like I [TS]

00:01:53   roasted and I've I pan-fried a couple of [TS]

00:01:55   chicken breast and olive oil the other [TS]

00:01:57   day and I had those I was like right but [TS]

00:02:00   i need but there's I can't just eat two [TS]

00:02:02   chicken breasts that's just a little bit [TS]

00:02:05   to fern bar you know what I mean [TS]

00:02:08   olive oil chicken breasts too firm bar [TS]

00:02:11   so I was like what else do I have [TS]

00:02:13   well because I have a daughter i have [TS]

00:02:16   string cheese so I took some string [TS]

00:02:19   cheese out and I stringed it you know [TS]

00:02:21   you pull it apart and mixed rings and I [TS]

00:02:24   covered the chicken breast with string [TS]

00:02:26   cheese and i was like but it needs [TS]

00:02:27   something else and then i saw that i [TS]

00:02:31   have some roast beef so i covered the [TS]

00:02:34   string cheese with roast beef and i [TS]

00:02:37   microwaved it and I tell you it is the [TS]

00:02:41   greatest food I've had in weeks [TS]

00:02:44   my mind is spinning it see now nothing [TS]

00:02:47   is your brain i be thinkin noodles [TS]

00:02:48   noodles noodles [TS]

00:02:49   I can't have noodles what am I going to [TS]

00:02:51   do you took in another direction you've [TS]

00:02:53   invented an entirely new kind of Cordon [TS]

00:02:55   Bleu it's basically a cordon bleu except [TS]

00:02:58   with with children string cheese and [TS]

00:03:01   sandwich meat roasted salmon Josh and [TS]

00:03:06   the whole page so i ate it with a knife [TS]

00:03:07   and fork and everybody was like it can [TS]

00:03:10   the next might be better than the last [TS]

00:03:12   and everybody was better than the last [TS]

00:03:14   you'll be good a little bit of hot [TS]

00:03:15   mustard on that [TS]

00:03:17   oh now that you say it I should i have [TS]

00:03:19   some hot mustard about some of that [TS]

00:03:20   great German or some or some horseradish [TS]

00:03:22   have you been back to your right to I [TS]

00:03:24   don't really even back to your German [TS]

00:03:26   Lenny or shoppy know because i'm so busy [TS]

00:03:29   that I I'm afraid to stock up on [TS]

00:03:31   anything but no I here's what i did [TS]

00:03:33   there is a butcher in in Seattle's [TS]

00:03:35   columbia city neighborhood which [TS]

00:03:38   actually point of order my family lower [TS]

00:03:42   Mike my great-great-uncle Junius the [TS]

00:03:47   racist the races lawyer I think his [TS]

00:03:53   brother another great uncle of mine not [TS]

00:03:56   my great grandfather george alfred [TS]

00:03:59   Caldwell rochester but their third [TS]

00:04:03   brother all of whom escaped from [TS]

00:04:05   Tennessee after the Civil War to make [TS]

00:04:09   their way out west [TS]

00:04:10   the third brother was somehow [TS]

00:04:13   responsible for the planting and selling [TS]

00:04:16   of columbia city in my family that he is [TS]

00:04:18   regarded as the founder of columbia city [TS]

00:04:21   now and and you know within my family [TS]

00:04:24   that you have to take that someone with [TS]

00:04:26   a grain of salt but it's been said so [TS]

00:04:28   much that I believe every time I Drive [TS]

00:04:30   through columbia city i'm like well it's [TS]

00:04:32   basically belongs to me this whole part [TS]

00:04:35   of town [TS]

00:04:36   there's a butcher their name Bob the [TS]

00:04:38   butcher and he's like one of these last [TS]

00:04:42   remaining storefront butcher shops and [TS]

00:04:47   his Bob just recently died but his son [TS]

00:04:50   who looks exactly like Jeffrey Dahmer [TS]

00:04:53   used to you know give me like butcher [TS]

00:04:57   butcher treatment the butcher could [TS]

00:04:59   picture a business where he trap I'd [TS]

00:05:02   pick a piece of meat out and he wrapped [TS]

00:05:03   in white paper and it was it felt very [TS]

00:05:05   much like how i wish the world still was [TS]

00:05:07   who I went in there the other day and [TS]

00:05:11   there is a little Korean gal and then [TS]

00:05:15   her mom a little Korean gal and they [TS]

00:05:19   both were given me the hard sell on on [TS]

00:05:26   my butcher experience they're like you [TS]

00:05:28   know what do you want [TS]

00:05:29   let's go let's get moving you want that [TS]

00:05:31   we can do that they want oriental [TS]

00:05:33   efficient ceiling working with you want [TS]

00:05:35   two of those you want for those right I [TS]

00:05:37   was like ah yeah well m 16 hours we're [TS]

00:05:41   starting to get over here and i got [TS]

00:05:42   these porterhouse over there like listen [TS]

00:05:44   what you want is you want one of these [TS]

00:05:46   bulk rates and they handed me a piece of [TS]

00:05:49   paper and it was like four hundred and [TS]

00:05:52   sixty-seven dollars you can get five [TS]

00:05:54   pounds of bacon five pounds of sausage [TS]

00:05:56   five pounds of chicken to whole [TS]

00:05:59   free-range chickens a rump roast for [TS]

00:06:04   porterhouse steaks and 10 pounds of [TS]

00:06:08   hamburger or something like that and I [TS]

00:06:09   was like yes I do want that that is the [TS]

00:06:11   way a man wants to shop be give me a [TS]

00:06:13   piece of paper with a lot of meat on it [TS]

00:06:15   and then give you some money [TS]

00:06:16   yeah I 110 3 pork roasts and a half a [TS]

00:06:19   dozen pork steaks and I was like well I [TS]

00:06:21   want that but I don't want this and the [TS]

00:06:22   other one was like that's fine we can do [TS]

00:06:24   that we do it all by weight and so all [TS]

00:06:26   then all of a sudden it gets into it [TS]

00:06:28   turns into this crazy transaction [TS]

00:06:30   they're like all right we're taking two [TS]

00:06:31   pounds off of that we're going to give [TS]

00:06:33   you two pounds more of this and [TS]

00:06:34   writing it all down and putting it on [TS]

00:06:36   the scale and I kind of feel like she's [TS]

00:06:38   putting her thumb on the scale and the [TS]

00:06:40   daughters weighing something over across [TS]

00:06:42   the room that I can't see I'm trying to [TS]

00:06:44   like run over there and see that and [TS]

00:06:47   then I come back and and the mom has [TS]

00:06:49   already wrapped up for porterhouse [TS]

00:06:51   steaks that I kind of like was like [TS]

00:06:53   women i didn't know that's that'sthat's [TS]

00:06:54   big-city butcher and you don't want that [TS]

00:06:56   it was super big city butchering and [TS]

00:06:58   then all of a sudden I'm like whoa wait [TS]

00:07:00   a minute it's all in bags and it's like [TS]

00:07:03   a hundred sixty-seven dollars please [TS]

00:07:06   and I didn't want to have a it was [TS]

00:07:08   another one of these like difficult [TS]

00:07:10   cultural exchanges where it's like do I [TS]

00:07:11   go back and have them unwrap all this [TS]

00:07:14   stuff and weigh it all in front of me [TS]

00:07:16   no i don't i accept that this is the way [TS]

00:07:20   this this transaction ran I'll know [TS]

00:07:23   better next time [TS]

00:07:24   and I walked out of there with two bags [TS]

00:07:28   of meat that were that each bag required [TS]

00:07:32   both women to lift it over the camera so [TS]

00:07:36   I i'm walking down the street with to [TS]

00:07:38   basically meet and villains and people [TS]

00:07:43   are getting out of my way on the street [TS]

00:07:44   because they say just now they like [TS]

00:07:46   instinctively sense here comes a lion [TS]

00:07:49   with a wildebeest in his mouth like I [TS]

00:07:51   had so much meat on me and we have been [TS]

00:07:54   eating through this meat and frankly it [TS]

00:07:58   was worth a hundred sixty-seven dollars [TS]

00:07:59   even if she was putting her thumb on the [TS]

00:08:01   scale any thought about seeking redress [TS]

00:08:03   with Bob jr. well that's the thing but i [TS]

00:08:06   can only assume either Bob jr. has sold [TS]

00:08:08   a portion or the entirety of his [TS]

00:08:10   business to these women or perhaps Bob [TS]

00:08:13   jr. is married to one of the moon and [TS]

00:08:16   the business is that and they were like [TS]

00:08:18   listen Bob jr. we got this we got what [TS]

00:08:20   will take care of the business from here [TS]

00:08:21   on out and he's just sitting in the back [TS]

00:08:24   chopping up teenage boys or I don't know [TS]

00:08:26   what he's doing [TS]

00:08:27   I haven't seen him in a long time I know [TS]

00:08:28   his dad died but you know the meat is [TS]

00:08:32   all from local farms but but the butcher [TS]

00:08:36   shop does not advertise itself in any [TS]

00:08:38   kind of hippie-dippie way there's no no [TS]

00:08:42   there's no sign out front that says [TS]

00:08:44   locally-sourced artisanal anything it's [TS]

00:08:47   just like yes we get our meat [TS]

00:08:48   from the following farms that are around [TS]

00:08:50   the town but we're not precious about it [TS]

00:08:54   and the meat is actually much cheaper [TS]

00:08:55   than it is even in the groceries i'm not [TS]

00:08:57   usually the type that was my hand held [TS]

00:08:59   in situations like that if it's [TS]

00:09:01   something you know really [TS]

00:09:02   straightforward you know if I go in and [TS]

00:09:04   I say i want to punch recipe finder [TS]

00:09:05   wanna have a conversation about it but I [TS]

00:09:07   think in that case they're leaving [TS]

00:09:08   behind a little bit of the high-touch [TS]

00:09:09   service that would make you seek out a [TS]

00:09:11   Bob jr. yes and that's what Bob jr. used [TS]

00:09:14   to sit and talk to me about every kind [TS]

00:09:16   of meat is this is the guy used to talk [TS]

00:09:18   to you about grass-fed things uh know [TS]

00:09:21   that Bob jr. was a little bit i have to [TS]

00:09:25   say a little bit on the spectrum [TS]

00:09:27   mm so he could talk about the job that's [TS]

00:09:29   a good job good job good job [TS]

00:09:32   yeah he he could talk to me about the [TS]

00:09:34   meat but he wasn't like a scintillating [TS]

00:09:36   like wide-ranging conversationalist [TS]

00:09:39   but but that and I realized something [TS]

00:09:41   the other day a lot of my problem in the [TS]

00:09:44   world and I feel like this is true [TS]

00:09:46   youtube is that I do not like salesman [TS]

00:09:51   and it doesn't matter what they're [TS]

00:09:54   selling [TS]

00:09:55   I so don't like salesman that I feel [TS]

00:10:00   like in the course of my life i have [TS]

00:10:02   made bad decisions or or I have thwarted [TS]

00:10:05   myself repeatedly because the person on [TS]

00:10:08   the other side of the table was trying [TS]

00:10:09   to sell it to me and I was like you know [TS]

00:10:11   what fuck this place [TS]

00:10:14   I threw garbage can through the window [TS]

00:10:16   and I burned it down and you know like [TS]

00:10:18   like a robbery t.i Roger it instead of [TS]

00:10:22   since Ted of indoor five minutes of some [TS]

00:10:25   guy selling me something in that voice [TS]

00:10:28   and in that tone and it's why I don't [TS]

00:10:31   like it's why I don't like pastors it's [TS]

00:10:34   why I don't like mortgage brokers or car [TS]

00:10:37   salesman but it feels it feels whenever [TS]

00:10:42   I totally agree and I think that i do [TS]

00:10:44   share that with you but it's probably i [TS]

00:10:46   always feel like I'm a mark you know I [TS]

00:10:49   they may see me as Ali but I feel like a [TS]

00:10:51   mark you know the whole thing as long as [TS]

00:10:53   the salesman is still talking still [TS]

00:10:55   closing [TS]

00:10:56   you know as long as the President as [TS]

00:10:58   long as I'm still there yelling at the [TS]

00:11:00   guy at the door like there's still a [TS]

00:11:01   transaction [TS]

00:11:02   that could potentially happen yeah and I [TS]

00:11:04   guess it is that they aren't they are [TS]

00:11:06   never ever ever interested in me in any [TS]

00:11:10   way other than that I am a human-shaped [TS]

00:11:13   cut out with a bull's-eye on his face [TS]

00:11:17   you know like there's whatever feigned [TS]

00:11:21   interest they are displaying like I i [TS]

00:11:23   went to my dentist the other day [TS]

00:11:24   oh she has a new dental hygienist two [TS]

00:11:27   years because my tennis drives me insane [TS]

00:11:29   with that stuff [TS]

00:11:30   well and I'm a my dentist i like very [TS]

00:11:32   much but she has a new hygienist who's [TS]

00:11:34   like a young gal who was talking about [TS]

00:11:37   like when i graduated from high school [TS]

00:11:38   in 98 and I was like stop right there [TS]

00:11:41   but she was given me that whole business [TS]

00:11:44   of like so where you from [TS]

00:11:47   so what do you put it there and I was [TS]

00:11:49   like Lady seriously don't like be [TS]

00:11:54   friendly but we're not trying to learn [TS]

00:11:58   about each other like don't pretend that [TS]

00:12:01   you are trying to learn about me for [TS]

00:12:04   anything other than some kind of mental [TS]

00:12:06   rolodex of like how's your daughter type [TS]

00:12:10   of comments that you're going to [TS]

00:12:11   sprinkle through the years like this let [TS]

00:12:14   it ride [TS]

00:12:15   you know you know just chill baby chill [TS]

00:12:18   well with my dentist he's very [TS]

00:12:20   charismatic very handsome but he and his [TS]

00:12:24   whole staff and by the way his mom is [TS]

00:12:26   his hygienist but just super she's the [TS]

00:12:29   one who always gives me the printouts [TS]

00:12:30   about how you can get heart disease i [TS]

00:12:31   don't floss enough she's giving me the [TS]

00:12:33   same xerox about how i'm going to get [TS]

00:12:35   I'm gonna it'sit's I guess it's a real [TS]

00:12:38   thing but apparently if you don't floss [TS]

00:12:39   enough to get heart disease because the [TS]

00:12:41   plaque goes through your gums into your [TS]

00:12:43   heart because science [TS]

00:12:45   yeah and but the problem with this guy [TS]

00:12:47   is I always feel like he's he noted is [TS]

00:12:49   it I do feel like he's selling me [TS]

00:12:50   something like he's selling me a deep [TS]

00:12:52   clean that's coming he's telling me some [TS]

00:12:54   kind of you know like any of those folks [TS]

00:12:56   to trust your mechanic right back to the [TS]

00:12:58   Dead Kennedys like he's looking for some [TS]

00:12:59   inroads about my own fears or [TS]

00:13:03   sensitivities to find some way to sell a [TS]

00:13:06   dental product again and what it comes [TS]

00:13:08   down to for me is like I feel like this [TS]

00:13:09   is and this is me maybe I maybe I want a [TS]

00:13:11   bad doctor but I want a bad doctor I [TS]

00:13:13   want to go to somebody who [TS]

00:13:15   like yeah yeah you got fucking up the [TS]

00:13:17   same but we gotta fight that shit you [TS]

00:13:19   mean bad doctor like bad lieutenant that [TS]

00:13:21   kind of like taking out of he has two [TS]

00:13:22   without putting something awful but [TS]

00:13:25   something like a lawyer like I want [TS]

00:13:26   someone who's on my side I want somebody [TS]

00:13:28   who's like fighting fighting the the [TS]

00:13:30   health problem with me resident being [TS]

00:13:32   like the mediator with the health [TS]

00:13:34   problems like well I've been talking to [TS]

00:13:36   your heart disease i'm pretty sure it's [TS]

00:13:38   because you need a deep clean it [TS]

00:13:40   probably makes you feel pretty bad you [TS]

00:13:41   got a kid you really don't want to die [TS]

00:13:43   and it is you know what I mean I don't [TS]

00:13:45   feel like when I go in there I want [TS]

00:13:46   somebody who's gonna buy want to clean [TS]

00:13:48   my teeth you know not show me endless [TS]

00:13:50   slides of the furniture that he has made [TS]

00:13:52   god bless him but I just I just like [TS]

00:13:54   being sold and that puts me on the [TS]

00:13:56   defensive and now I'm that guy [TS]

00:13:57   yeah I feel like the only sales pitch [TS]

00:14:00   that I respond to is I don't give a fuck [TS]

00:14:03   whether you buy this or not it's the [TS]

00:14:06   like i'm selling it because I believe in [TS]

00:14:08   it or because I made it and if you don't [TS]

00:14:11   want it then your spin your dumbass but [TS]

00:14:13   it doesn't matter to me [TS]

00:14:15   yeah but if that's something we're like [TS]

00:14:16   you're in there as a motivated buyer if [TS]

00:14:18   you go in there and say i wanna i want [TS]

00:14:20   to get this certain what's the big [TS]

00:14:22   international harvester that's the big [TS]

00:14:24   transporter what's the name of the big [TS]

00:14:25   car you want super been like if you go [TS]

00:14:29   to if you go to Bob's Bob suburban and [TS]

00:14:32   and and Bob you know Bob senior absorb [TS]

00:14:34   suburban senior is there you go in there [TS]

00:14:36   and he can help you make a decision [TS]

00:14:37   about like what fits your budget in your [TS]

00:14:40   needs that's kind of cells when I could [TS]

00:14:41   use what I don't need in there is [TS]

00:14:43   somebody going you know you really are [TS]

00:14:44   dickless wonder you should get a [TS]

00:14:45   suburban right all those guys on [TS]

00:14:47   craigslist you are like why I think I [TS]

00:14:50   told you right attacks more pictures and [TS]

00:14:52   looked at a suburban and I wrote the guy [TS]

00:14:54   and I said yeah its burdens got a lot [TS]

00:14:56   more rust than you said it had like ice [TS]

00:14:59   is to send me some pictures and you sent [TS]

00:15:01   me some pictures of the parts that [TS]

00:15:02   weren't rusty but then i went looked at [TS]

00:15:04   it and it's got all this rust on it and [TS]

00:15:06   he writes back and he says well that [TS]

00:15:08   rust is typical for 73 was like really [TS]

00:15:13   like my love my lying should have been [TS]

00:15:15   anticipated [TS]

00:15:16   yeah thank you for the education about [TS]

00:15:18   what is typical and what is not [TS]

00:15:20   but in fact like like if you're if if [TS]

00:15:23   you if the thing is honest it sells [TS]

00:15:25   itself right and if it's like I won't [TS]

00:15:28   look [TS]

00:15:28   the Cadillac the other day there's [TS]

00:15:30   another one I'm going to I'm going out [TS]

00:15:32   looking at a lot like an old like giant [TS]

00:15:34   Cadillac it was a 65 Cadillac was a [TS]

00:15:38   massive cadillac and he had taken these [TS]

00:15:40   cool pictures about a of it and I was [TS]

00:15:42   like so many recipes like none at all i [TS]

00:15:45   said is how big the motor need it's like [TS]

00:15:47   it's a 500 and I was like this Cadillac [TS]

00:15:49   seems like my kinda cadillac and I went [TS]

00:15:53   to look at it and as I Drive up I'm like [TS]

00:15:55   what the and i said is that has the [TS]

00:15:59   suspension been modified and he was like [TS]

00:16:02   oh yeah the guy before me like lowered [TS]

00:16:05   it but he only lowered in the front end [TS]

00:16:08   because he couldn't figure out how to [TS]

00:16:09   take the suspension out of the back end [TS]

00:16:12   I was like haha so the front bumper is [TS]

00:16:16   dragging on the ground because some kid [TS]

00:16:18   tried to put it on air bags but didn't [TS]

00:16:21   know what he was doing and that is a [TS]

00:16:24   thing that you now that I look at the [TS]

00:16:26   photographs you took you took these [TS]

00:16:28   photographs with it with the stick a [TS]

00:16:32   look at Peter Jackson angle [TS]

00:16:33   yeah with the sure knowledge that that [TS]

00:16:36   was not being revealed you said nothing [TS]

00:16:37   about it in the ad we talked about it [TS]

00:16:39   you include the line please don't waste [TS]

00:16:42   my time in your ad and now i'm out here [TS]

00:16:45   and i'm looking at a car that is [TS]

00:16:46   basically a halloween pumpkin and like [TS]

00:16:52   you know I i have learned not to look at [TS]

00:16:54   a guy like that and say like by the way [TS]

00:16:56   fuck you because i don't i cannot afford [TS]

00:17:00   to walk around thinking that my time is [TS]

00:17:02   worth money because if I did think that [TS]

00:17:04   I would be I would be just so depressed [TS]

00:17:07   it's if I think if I thought my time was [TS]

00:17:09   with money so I'm just like you know [TS]

00:17:10   what this was this was a nice drive in [TS]

00:17:12   the country out to your suburban house [TS]

00:17:14   to look at this thing for one and a half [TS]

00:17:16   seconds and know that what it needs to [TS]

00:17:21   be put back together and I'm not gonna [TS]

00:17:24   stand here and argue premio he was like [TS]

00:17:26   seven thousand dollars firm and I'm like [TS]

00:17:28   yeah firm like the suspension probably [TS]

00:17:31   is because it's sitting on the axle [TS]

00:17:35   anyway go go fuck yourself but you know [TS]

00:17:38   like go fuck yourself is implied in [TS]

00:17:40   those situations [TS]

00:17:41   yeah I just you know it'sit's what [TS]

00:17:43   hardens me as a person though not a good [TS]

00:17:45   way is that it makes me continually feel [TS]

00:17:47   like I have to protect against like I [TS]

00:17:50   want to be somebody who trust people [TS]

00:17:51   because that's my nature but then you [TS]

00:17:53   have enough experiences like that or [TS]

00:17:55   somebody who who doesn't tell you about [TS]

00:17:57   the black mold in the basement of the [TS]

00:17:59   house that you're buying or whatever you [TS]

00:18:01   know it's like it's just you just keep [TS]

00:18:02   you almost have to approach each of [TS]

00:18:05   those situations assuming that there's a [TS]

00:18:07   body in the trunk like there's something [TS]

00:18:08   you're gonna have to figure out about [TS]

00:18:09   this that they're just not gonna tell [TS]

00:18:10   you [TS]

00:18:11   and so you know you got something you [TS]

00:18:12   can just say like what's really fucked [TS]

00:18:14   up about this that you're not telling me [TS]

00:18:15   you know yeah there will be so nice to [TS]

00:18:18   have that conversation with somebody [TS]

00:18:18   well you know actually I'm Dominator [TS]

00:18:21   might not be right [TS]

00:18:21   I'm not sure give me the five word [TS]

00:18:23   answer of the thing you are most afraid [TS]

00:18:25   that I'm gonna find out about this [TS]

00:18:26   product that's really good you can go [TS]

00:18:28   into it and say to somebody i'm going to [TS]

00:18:29   tell you what might what I'm worried [TS]

00:18:30   about you tell me what you're worried [TS]

00:18:32   about right like I'm I'm worried this [TS]

00:18:34   mean I get great mileage but like I want [TS]

00:18:36   it so much that I leavin you know what [TS]

00:18:38   are you worried about him or you'll find [TS]

00:18:41   out that it's sitting on the axle boom [TS]

00:18:44   we're gonna find out the people we're [TS]

00:18:46   better people than that [TS]

00:18:47   yeah the door souls are stars are full [TS]

00:18:49   of moldy cocaine [TS]

00:18:51   I don't buy that car yeah that's the [TS]

00:18:56   exact opposite effects i think cocaine I [TS]

00:18:59   think even moldy cocaine has some street [TS]

00:19:01   value for somebody who's always somebody [TS]

00:19:03   you probably had that at some point what [TS]

00:19:05   moldy cocaine while you're at a party [TS]

00:19:07   and somebody says we're out of the [TS]

00:19:08   regular cocaine always left is the multi [TS]

00:19:09   cocaine [TS]

00:19:10   ok I heard I heard you have okay I [TS]

00:19:13   definitely had some drugs that were [TS]

00:19:15   transported in a gas tank [TS]

00:19:17   oh no because they smelled like gas and [TS]

00:19:21   they were the only drugs in that town at [TS]

00:19:24   the time small mountain town and [TS]

00:19:27   everybody knew that it was the really [TS]

00:19:31   the worst possible thing but they were [TS]

00:19:36   the only drugs available and so you'd be [TS]

00:19:40   sitting around you drinking beer at [TS]

00:19:42   somebody's house and they'd be like [TS]

00:19:44   a certain point they'd pull out the bag [TS]

00:19:48   and everybody like is that the gas stuff [TS]

00:19:52   it smells like VW Bug did you know and [TS]

00:19:54   you just like the gassed up and it came [TS]

00:19:56   across the border in a gas tank and it [TS]

00:19:59   wasn't sealed properly or something and [TS]

00:20:02   everybody was like getting i'll discuss [TS]

00:20:04   so even though you the provenance you [TS]

00:20:06   know the provenance is fucked up you [TS]

00:20:08   know you you know that at at this at [TS]

00:20:10   least been against yet let alone what [TS]

00:20:13   you can't smell on it [TS]

00:20:14   oh yeah and half but half the high is [TS]

00:20:16   just chlorofluorocarbons from like it's [TS]

00:20:18   just like smoking unleaded gas is di [TS]

00:20:22   seems like i'm going to pass out [TS]

00:20:22   sometimes when i was driving my VW bus [TS]

00:20:25   I mean that the smell of gas was was so [TS]

00:20:26   strong everything pretty much every old [TS]

00:20:28   school BTW been it's like that [TS]

00:20:30   yeah it's a part of the air-cooled [TS]

00:20:31   engine it routes the exhaust through the [TS]

00:20:33   dashboard very clever [TS]

00:20:35   yeah why feel like this thing you know [TS]

00:20:37   like one of the one of the unexpected [TS]

00:20:40   and nice things about the about the rise [TS]

00:20:45   of the Internet and the and and all of [TS]

00:20:47   the kind of social media a shin is that [TS]

00:20:52   you and I both like the word is out [TS]

00:20:55   about us right everywhere I go people [TS]

00:20:58   already know they already know where the [TS]

00:21:04   rust is in my door cells because it's [TS]

00:21:09   part of my online brand even you know [TS]

00:21:13   and what when when the name of your [TS]

00:21:15   superhero rust that's right but when the [TS]

00:21:18   internet first came up i don't mean I we [TS]

00:21:20   can we can set the Wayback Machine it [TS]

00:21:22   wasn't that long ago but you know i [TS]

00:21:25   remembers people telling me like don't [TS]

00:21:26   post on message boards you need to keep [TS]

00:21:29   your privacy and the mystery about you [TS]

00:21:32   as an artist and and I was very worried [TS]

00:21:35   about privacy we were all so worried [TS]

00:21:37   about privacy but the reality is that [TS]

00:21:39   the truth of me is available to anybody [TS]

00:21:45   that that wants to look forward at all [TS]

00:21:49   he can you put out a 200-hour craigslist [TS]

00:21:53   ad [TS]

00:21:53   Yeah Yeah right that step is it says no [TS]

00:21:57   flakes and read the whole thing you'll [TS]

00:22:01   probably figure it's in all caps [TS]

00:22:04   there's no punctuation a keyword search [TS]

00:22:06   for Hitler this this podcast is for men [TS]

00:22:12   and manly women no facts don't waste my [TS]

00:22:16   time don't waste my time and and and [TS]

00:22:20   that is a that is a tremendous relief in [TS]

00:22:23   a way now because because it feels like [TS]

00:22:26   in the aggregate over time the true [TS]

00:22:30   story of of of any person who is like [TS]

00:22:35   pursuing a public life [TS]

00:22:37   the true story is ultimately revealed in [TS]

00:22:40   just the you cannot manage your story [TS]

00:22:46   completely over time in a sort of daily [TS]

00:22:51   posting and people posting about you you [TS]

00:22:55   cannot hide the the truth and and and [TS]

00:23:00   it's not like I ever wanted to I always [TS]

00:23:02   felt like I'm you know that that that [TS]

00:23:05   that disclaimer business on a first date [TS]

00:23:07   with somebody or the first time you meet [TS]

00:23:08   somebody and you want to sit down and [TS]

00:23:10   say like here's the thing nine games [TS]

00:23:13   here's the thing i'm afraid i'm most [TS]

00:23:15   afraid you're going to find out about me [TS]

00:23:16   right [TS]

00:23:17   and then the person goes oh shit you're [TS]

00:23:21   like yeah I know right i have two huge [TS]

00:23:25   dicks and then we have to navigate like [TS]

00:23:30   what's that mean what does that mean for [TS]

00:23:33   us what does that mean for you with [TS]

00:23:34   everybody listen this is going to come [TS]

00:23:36   up [TS]

00:23:36   listen eventually I don't want I don't [TS]

00:23:39   be surprised and so but but now like all [TS]

00:23:42   of that is out there right it and and [TS]

00:23:45   the presumption is that people you know [TS]

00:23:48   before they sit down with you for the [TS]

00:23:50   first time have already done at least [TS]

00:23:53   that first swipe of like who the fuck is [TS]

00:23:55   this person [TS]

00:23:57   and I think it you know in on that first [TS]

00:23:59   page of results it's like all the infos [TS]

00:24:01   there you can tell that this guy this [TS]

00:24:03   guy like Merlin Mann is going to be a [TS]

00:24:08   challenging interview John Roderick is [TS]

00:24:11   going to be a difficult a boyfriend like [TS]

00:24:17   this stuff is basically in our Wikipedia [TS]

00:24:19   page and and I no longer feel like [TS]

00:24:22   privacy issues in in that sense it's [TS]

00:24:26   like what [TS]

00:24:27   it's maintaining your privacy about [TS]

00:24:29   about certain things is like so easy [TS]

00:24:31   really [TS]

00:24:33   as long as you're not trying to hide the [TS]

00:24:36   the essential truth about you [TS]

00:24:40   yeah that won't let you know when you're [TS]

00:24:43   a public basket case i think people [TS]

00:24:45   really the country a break [TS]

00:24:46   that's what i like to think anyone well [TS]

00:24:48   that's yeah that's why we have pursued [TS]

00:24:49   this this public baths basket case [TS]

00:24:52   personalized one funny part of it with [TS]

00:24:54   social media stuff though is that you [TS]

00:24:56   know i think yeah a lot of people are [TS]

00:25:00   looking forward to the day when somebody [TS]

00:25:03   sees them and goes oh you posted that [TS]

00:25:05   funny thing on facebook or your [TS]

00:25:08   Instagram photo of some telephone wires [TS]

00:25:10   was really inspiring to me and you know [TS]

00:25:12   and and they keep waiting for that and [TS]

00:25:14   the day that happens it's really magical [TS]

00:25:16   but then after that you know if your if [TS]

00:25:19   your Instagram photos of telephone wires [TS]

00:25:22   inspiring people eventually you're [TS]

00:25:24   you're like Instagram telephone wire guy [TS]

00:25:25   alright again that story's not yours [TS]

00:25:28   anymore that's that's the thing is like [TS]

00:25:30   whatever it is whether you intended it [TS]

00:25:31   to be that way or not like screech [TS]

00:25:33   probably didn't think he was going to be [TS]

00:25:34   screened she went to the screen test [TS]

00:25:36   because he just showed up here or [TS]

00:25:39   screech screech I found some photos of [TS]

00:25:40   Mason Reese yeah he's a handsome kid [TS]

00:25:43   he's a club owner she's even get a get a [TS]

00:25:47   bigger this place for this mark III had [TS]

00:25:52   an interesting experience the other day [TS]

00:25:53   i'm doing a lot of media recently and a [TS]

00:25:56   like a DJ posted a link to an interview [TS]

00:25:59   that I did on one on his podcast this DJ [TS]

00:26:04   Marco Collins who was a famous somehow [TS]

00:26:06   yeah the market Colin sessions [TS]

00:26:08   Marco Collins he was a big big proponent [TS]

00:26:11   of grunge and indie and he just i know [TS]

00:26:15   from that silkworm records he was here [TS]

00:26:17   local DJ yeah he was he was like the [TS]

00:26:19   alternative rock DJ before there wasn't [TS]

00:26:23   such a thing as indie rock like a [TS]

00:26:24   rotting on the rocks kind of career [TS]

00:26:26   maker John Boyle County enter he was the [TS]

00:26:29   one who discovered and made the career [TS]

00:26:31   of harvey danger [TS]

00:26:32   wow I and he used to live across the [TS]

00:26:34   hall from me we have a long history [TS]

00:26:36   together but he thought he had me on a [TS]

00:26:39   podcast he does and he posted a link to [TS]

00:26:41   it on his facebook page which he told [TS]

00:26:44   the connected to me and so I went [TS]

00:26:47   followed the link to where was posted on [TS]

00:26:50   inside and there were a series of [TS]

00:26:52   comments underneath it and as i'm [TS]

00:26:55   reading the comments i realized that [TS]

00:26:58   some of the comments are hidden from me [TS]

00:27:01   all this is like a facebook thing right [TS]

00:27:04   was like some stuff you just can't see [TS]

00:27:06   on facebook or i can only imagine that [TS]

00:27:10   it's because the people who those people [TS]

00:27:14   have blocked me [TS]

00:27:15   I don't know they're not like a friend [TS]

00:27:16   of a friend or something because there's [TS]

00:27:18   some stuff where you can see can see it [TS]

00:27:19   in certain places in certain situations [TS]

00:27:21   but but you think you think it's like [TS]

00:27:24   they willfully like blocked you from [TS]

00:27:25   seeing things that they do well know the [TS]

00:27:27   reason I know that they're there is that [TS]

00:27:29   that the that you know 5 or 6 comments [TS]

00:27:32   down there's a comment from a guy who's [TS]

00:27:34   like oh and I suppose you've ever done [TS]

00:27:36   anything as brilliant as when I pretend [TS]

00:27:38   to fall in your life mr. guy who then I [TS]

00:27:43   was like that that curious i was like [TS]

00:27:44   who's that in response to and I read the [TS]

00:27:47   five things before that were like you [TS]

00:27:50   know first or whatever and I'm like this [TS]

00:27:54   is he's woozy talking two and then three [TS]

00:27:56   or four comments down he's like [TS]

00:28:00   well uh in my experience john robert has [TS]

00:28:03   never been anything but the nicest guy [TS]

00:28:05   and he let my band opened for him once [TS]

00:28:08   in san diego and they were super cool [TS]

00:28:11   towards you want to see what ppl are [TS]

00:28:13   defending you against on and i'm like [TS]

00:28:15   who is he arguing with and then further [TS]

00:28:18   down another person chimes in who is [TS]

00:28:21   like who is obviously responding to of [TS]

00:28:24   second person and saying like I happen [TS]

00:28:28   to think that the John Roderick is like [TS]

00:28:30   a prince and a sweetheart and I'm like [TS]

00:28:32   who are you arguing with that what are [TS]

00:28:34   they say and I you know I I realized [TS]

00:28:38   just from looking at the reflected [TS]

00:28:40   argument that through the course of this [TS]

00:28:45   you know however many long comments I [TS]

00:28:49   you could tell that the that whoever it [TS]

00:28:53   was that had an axe to grind was [TS]

00:28:57   grinding a personal acts they weren't [TS]

00:29:01   saying like I hate his band they were [TS]

00:29:04   they were 10 st. John Roxanne asshole [TS]

00:29:07   they would ya ever similar and it was [TS]

00:29:09   coming from a place where they were [TS]

00:29:12   probably somebody that I once punched in [TS]

00:29:15   the nose like they're there is this [TS]

00:29:18   small archipelago of noses that i have [TS]

00:29:24   punched in the last 20 years who are [TS]

00:29:28   probably also on facebook and who are [TS]

00:29:31   they continued to live after I punch [TS]

00:29:34   them in the nose they did not they did [TS]

00:29:36   not go very weary and wait and be gone [TS]

00:29:41   they are can they are alive people in [TS]

00:29:43   the world who I have forgotten [TS]

00:29:45   completely but for whom that punch in [TS]

00:29:48   the nose was a singular event that they [TS]

00:29:49   have not let go of they are still they [TS]

00:29:52   may remember being and I still the end [TS]

00:29:56   the end the idea that I'm out there [TS]

00:29:57   doing well having fun still infuriates [TS]

00:30:00   but you could tell you could tell by the [TS]

00:30:03   tenor of the people defending me that [TS]

00:30:06   were visible to me that that the [TS]

00:30:09   complaints against me were didn't make [TS]

00:30:12   sense to [TS]

00:30:13   anyone in the context of this post this [TS]

00:30:16   podcast yeah it was some kind of a [TS]

00:30:19   little like just a dive bomb [TS]

00:30:21   yeah people were like what's your [TS]

00:30:22   problem and but but but was curious to [TS]

00:30:26   me was that there were at least two [TS]

00:30:27   people owe on this on this facebook [TS]

00:30:30   thread that that were like grinding [TS]

00:30:33   pretty serious axis and and you know it [TS]

00:30:35   caused me to reflect like what is the [TS]

00:30:38   what's the worst thing I did to somebody [TS]

00:30:41   that i have forgotten completely about [TS]

00:30:43   but that they are probably will nurse to [TS]

00:30:47   their grave that sounds like the basis [TS]

00:30:49   for a game show that would run for [TS]

00:30:51   probably four or five seasons it's kind [TS]

00:30:53   of like it's kind of like this is your [TS]

00:30:55   life meets what's my line is like you're [TS]

00:30:57   the one is blindfolded and somebody [TS]

00:30:58   comes in you have to with a minimum of [TS]

00:31:01   information try to remember what you did [TS]

00:31:03   them [TS]

00:31:03   Yeah right there like there's still so [TS]

00:31:06   mad you can just hear the seething in [TS]

00:31:08   their voice and you're like what what [TS]

00:31:10   did i do you know it turns out like Oh [TS]

00:31:13   Rachel was your ex-girlfriend [TS]

00:31:17   oh I only come out with her for a couple [TS]

00:31:20   of weeks and the person's like yeah I [TS]

00:31:22   broke up with her eight hours beforehand [TS]

00:31:25   and she like hooked up with you that [TS]

00:31:28   night and I will I'll hate you forever [TS]

00:31:31   it's like I never even met you dude she [TS]

00:31:35   didn't say anything about it I was just [TS]

00:31:36   like I met her at a show you know hey we [TS]

00:31:40   do wish you had equal time [TS]

00:31:42   no I mean that's the thing if I cared i [TS]

00:31:45   think i could probably game the facebook [TS]

00:31:48   system used to get one of your non block [TS]

00:31:50   friends to go and look at it right yeah [TS]

00:31:51   and I'm sure having now talked about it [TS]

00:31:53   you know somebody from the internet army [TS]

00:31:55   will figure it will find out what it was [TS]

00:31:57   but a better but no ultimately I don't [TS]

00:32:00   care because ultimately everyone of us [TS]

00:32:04   has left probably enough of a trail of [TS]

00:32:10   hurt [TS]

00:32:11   it's just that it's just that in this in [TS]

00:32:14   this case because the because the forum [TS]

00:32:19   where it was happening was on this rock [TS]

00:32:21   and roll djs facebook page [TS]

00:32:24   it was it kind of opened the door to all [TS]

00:32:28   these people out in the world who may be [TS]

00:32:30   still are mad at me about my punk rock [TS]

00:32:32   article or maybe we worked together at [TS]

00:32:35   the end of pizza parlor 20 years ago and [TS]

00:32:38   you know like all that weird stuff from [TS]

00:32:44   now from when you're 21 it's like always [TS]

00:32:46   that a drug deal gone wrong [TS]

00:32:48   where the stakes were fifteen dollars [TS]

00:32:51   and you are still convinced right that [TS]

00:32:55   that I am like an evil person because [TS]

00:32:58   like you didn't get your fifteen dollars [TS]

00:33:01   with the weed that time when you can't I [TS]

00:33:05   can't carry that forward because i know [TS]

00:33:07   i mean when i think about what's the [TS]

00:33:08   worst thing I ever did I always come to [TS]

00:33:11   this blank space where it's like well [TS]

00:33:14   probably the worst thing I did was some [TS]

00:33:16   mostly inadvertent active dis courtesy [TS]

00:33:23   or you know like in considerateness that [TS]

00:33:28   where I was oblivious and the other [TS]

00:33:31   person was left embarrassed standing [TS]

00:33:34   there but I mean if that's the worst [TS]

00:33:36   thing you ever did to somebody I think [TS]

00:33:37   it's like I can live with it you know I [TS]

00:33:40   never I never look somebody in the eye [TS]

00:33:42   and said i will love you forever like [TS]

00:33:48   that the thing about what you're [TS]

00:33:49   describing them and I you know I don't [TS]

00:33:51   know I guess I've been in situations [TS]

00:33:52   like that is is you know 25 30 years ago [TS]

00:33:55   that would have been what we would just [TS]

00:33:57   simply call talking behind someone's [TS]

00:33:58   back where somebody tosses out something [TS]

00:34:01   that they heard or believe or reckon [TS]

00:34:04   about somebody and somebody else comes [TS]

00:34:06   back with what they've heard or believe [TS]

00:34:09   or reckon and you know that could be [TS]

00:34:10   about John Davidson like who knows like [TS]

00:34:12   you're going to sit there and have a [TS]

00:34:13   conversation about whether a football [TS]

00:34:15   player is gay [TS]

00:34:16   you could have a conversation about [TS]

00:34:18   whether Rod Stewart drink semen la [TS]

00:34:20   whatever entity do it i still wonder so [TS]

00:34:24   rod stewart at some point in the early [TS]

00:34:25   eighties probably heard that there's a [TS]

00:34:28   certain myth about him and Judaism but [TS]

00:34:30   like he but he never had to go [TS]

00:34:32   yeah he's knee-deep in Rachel Hunter at [TS]

00:34:34   the time and he didn't sure you know [TS]

00:34:36   yes dehydrated [TS]

00:34:37   somebody probably you know came across [TS]

00:34:39   that just using professional said that [TS]

00:34:41   but the am but but it's just today it's [TS]

00:34:43   happening right in front and in your [TS]

00:34:45   case you can't even see part of the [TS]

00:34:47   reckoning [TS]

00:34:48   yeah that's the crazy part of though is [TS]

00:34:50   that you know it is the part about [TS]

00:34:52   that's kind of funny as it sounds like [TS]

00:34:53   some of those people know you a little [TS]

00:34:54   bit but it's interesting to watch people [TS]

00:34:56   fight and extremely abstracts fight via [TS]

00:35:01   proxy and via reckoning well because [TS]

00:35:05   that's what a lot of that I heard John's [TS]

00:35:06   really nice well I heard one time John [TS]

00:35:07   you know it you and it's true of [TS]

00:35:09   everybody anybody's ever seen something [TS]

00:35:10   like that it really it feels like your [TS]

00:35:12   dad at your own funeral or something [TS]

00:35:13   like what are you people talking about [TS]

00:35:15   this is weird [TS]

00:35:16   yeah well and and what you say about [TS]

00:35:19   this talking behind people's back like [TS]

00:35:23   I've struggled with that my whole adult [TS]

00:35:26   life because there is absolutely a [TS]

00:35:29   segment of of the world the segment of [TS]

00:35:32   the world that we both grew up in [TS]

00:35:33   definitely a big part of the culture in [TS]

00:35:38   Alaska but it's part of rock-and-roll [TS]

00:35:41   culture it's part of Southern culture is [TS]

00:35:44   this idea that you don't talk shit about [TS]

00:35:47   people and I think it's not classy [TS]

00:35:52   it's not classy but it but but taken to [TS]

00:35:56   a butBut taken to like an old-west [TS]

00:36:00   extreme [TS]

00:36:02   it you know it becomes a I mean what i [TS]

00:36:08   have always considered it to be like a [TS]

00:36:11   very strange rule when applied to [TS]

00:36:16   situations where like well somebody did [TS]

00:36:18   something bad and I to not mention it is [TS]

00:36:25   a kind of gross oversight you know [TS]

00:36:28   anyone amongst people you know I'm [TS]

00:36:30   discussing someone that you personally [TS]

00:36:32   know like this person cheated on that [TS]

00:36:34   person this person I know cheated on [TS]

00:36:36   this other person yeah [TS]

00:36:37   yes the whole idea of like of because [TS]

00:36:41   because I've always admired that that [TS]

00:36:44   kind of image of a man who is incredibly [TS]

00:36:50   reticent who keeps quiet and doesn't let [TS]

00:36:58   you know doesn't let on what he's [TS]

00:36:59   thinking make snow makes no verbal [TS]

00:37:03   judgment never lets you in like that [TS]

00:37:06   that step Clint Eastwood squinty-eyed [TS]

00:37:09   sort of Appalachian quietude that is in [TS]

00:37:16   such contrast to my like verbal [TS]

00:37:20   processing my like sort of exuberant [TS]

00:37:26   like that that the kind of exponential [TS]

00:37:30   way than I talk and think and so that [TS]

00:37:36   that culture of difference I've always [TS]

00:37:37   I've always wished that I could be a [TS]

00:37:39   little bit more quiet and swaggering [TS]

00:37:42   instead of so instead of so verbal and [TS]

00:37:49   Andy it it is it's it's the most that [TS]

00:37:54   different the the the the tip of the [TS]

00:37:58   blade of that difference is always in [TS]

00:38:01   exchanges i have in the music scene with [TS]

00:38:05   punk rockers or rockin rollers like the [TS]

00:38:09   tough tough kids [TS]

00:38:11   who make a point to who just don't who [TS]

00:38:16   don't talk but are also very protective [TS]

00:38:21   of being talked about you know they're [TS]

00:38:24   they're hyper worried about being talked [TS]

00:38:27   about and like for me that disparagingly [TS]

00:38:33   at all ready yeah and for me for the for [TS]

00:38:37   the last 20 years like if somebody was [TS]

00:38:39   talking about me i had a secret pride or [TS]

00:38:45   secret joy I i remember a girl the girl [TS]

00:38:47   came up to me in a bar one time and she [TS]

00:38:49   said there's a there's something really [TS]

00:38:52   interesting read about you on the [TS]

00:38:54   women's room wall [TS]

00:38:56   I was like what she said I'm not going [TS]

00:39:00   to tell you and all the sudden I'm [TS]

00:39:06   sitting in this crowded rock bar looking [TS]

00:39:08   around and thinking every woman in this [TS]

00:39:12   bar has read this because you know [TS]

00:39:16   because it came out over time like other [TS]

00:39:18   people would say like haha haha i read [TS]

00:39:21   that thing about you on the crocodile [TS]

00:39:22   bathroom wall and I was like what does [TS]

00:39:25   it say nobody would nobody would tell me [TS]

00:39:27   it was fun and and over time I was like [TS]

00:39:29   I'm not gonna go in there and look at it [TS]

00:39:30   i love that there's something written [TS]

00:39:33   about me on the bathroom wall that [TS]

00:39:35   everybody thinks is like I would say is [TS]

00:39:38   it means an unflattering and they say no [TS]

00:39:40   not unflattering ones one of John's two [TS]

00:39:43   giant dicks is crooked [TS]

00:39:45   yeah exactly like one of John's two [TS]

00:39:47   giant dicks really satisfied me forever [TS]

00:39:50   but the other one well listen to into it [TS]

00:39:53   was crooked yeah I couldn't I couldn't [TS]

00:39:56   get it to work and so but the knowledge [TS]

00:40:01   that that was on the bathroom wall [TS]

00:40:03   what-whatever anxiety I felt about it as [TS]

00:40:06   soon as i understood that it wasn't it [TS]

00:40:09   wasn't saying like John Roderick gave me [TS]

00:40:12   tooth decay for John Roderick was mean [TS]

00:40:16   to my lady parts like from that point on [TS]

00:40:20   I was like hooray [TS]

00:40:21   there's something written about me on a [TS]

00:40:22   bathroom wall somewhere like I'm gonna [TS]

00:40:24   I'm gonna [TS]

00:40:24   right about that in my journal and it [TS]

00:40:26   was a it was it was something that i [TS]

00:40:28   took pride in but there are i know for a [TS]

00:40:31   fact most of my rock-and-roll peers [TS]

00:40:35   would be seriously bothered or not most [TS]

00:40:41   but let's say half of the people i know [TS]

00:40:43   will be seriously bothered that was in [TS]

00:40:45   there and they would want to erase it [TS]

00:40:47   immediately you know they would not want [TS]

00:40:50   to be singled out in that way called out [TS]

00:40:53   publicly and I i have this long-range [TS]

00:40:58   long-standing dispute with a local [TS]

00:40:59   producer who came up to me drunk and [TS]

00:41:02   built to spill show one time he said I [TS]

00:41:05   hear you're talking shit about me and I [TS]

00:41:09   said what are you talking about and he [TS]

00:41:12   said I just heard that you were talking [TS]

00:41:15   shit about and I said you mean that we [TS]

00:41:19   had a recording session together that [TS]

00:41:21   went really badly because you were a [TS]

00:41:23   snob and he said I'm not going to tell [TS]

00:41:27   you who said it but don't talk shit [TS]

00:41:32   about me i said i don't think it's [TS]

00:41:35   talking shit about you when I relate to [TS]

00:41:37   another musician what my experience of [TS]

00:41:39   working with you was like and he said [TS]

00:41:43   quit talking shit about me like you mean [TS]

00:41:47   it was a drunk exchange but then every [TS]

00:41:51   time I saw him for the next two and a [TS]

00:41:52   half years he would have most of the [TS]

00:41:56   time be drunk with his fists kind of [TS]

00:41:58   clenched his side's swaying back and [TS]

00:42:00   forth trying to figure out whether he [TS]

00:42:02   was gonna punch me or not trying to [TS]

00:42:04   figure out if he could if he could punch [TS]

00:42:08   me basically was he trying to trying to [TS]

00:42:11   suss out and he is punished [TS]

00:42:14   well it's you know just I mean that it's [TS]

00:42:16   basically what's happening in every bar [TS]

00:42:18   south of the mason-dixon line at all [TS]

00:42:20   times but he's standing there you know [TS]

00:42:24   you talking shit about me and I'm like [TS]

00:42:26   really like five years ago now is that [TS]

00:42:29   what was that what we're is that we're [TS]

00:42:30   talking about now and each time he was [TS]

00:42:33   just trying to figure out if you can [TS]

00:42:34   punch me any number [TS]

00:42:36   he never could and it but it but it kept [TS]

00:42:40   hammering home this point of like [TS]

00:42:42   talking shit talking shit what it what [TS]

00:42:45   does that represent to people because i [TS]

00:42:48   have never ever not only have I never [TS]

00:42:50   said to somebody stop talking shit about [TS]

00:42:52   me but I have never felt that you know [TS]

00:42:54   when when somebody says I heard from I [TS]

00:42:58   heard from somebody who will remain [TS]

00:42:59   nameless that you blah blah blah like I [TS]

00:43:03   always feel like well either it's true [TS]

00:43:05   in which case I deserve to have that [TS]

00:43:09   report about me or its false in which [TS]

00:43:12   case who cares like it's false [TS]

00:43:15   this person is saying something false [TS]

00:43:17   about me and that's anybody who believes [TS]

00:43:19   it is not a friend of mine and I don't [TS]

00:43:22   care like outside of like my friends [TS]

00:43:25   don't care what a bunch of ding-a-lings [TS]

00:43:27   think you could say i'm at people and [TS]

00:43:30   I'm sure to tell lies about us all so I [TS]

00:43:34   never understood like what is talking [TS]

00:43:35   shit is it saying something true about [TS]

00:43:37   you that you don't want people to know [TS]

00:43:40   in which case that's your problem wasn't [TS]

00:43:43   saying something false about you in [TS]

00:43:46   which case who cares there it's just [TS]

00:43:48   people are lying about [TS]

00:43:49   I guess I mean when you say talking shit [TS]

00:43:52   i mean i would take that to mean that [TS]

00:43:54   you someone is deliberately undermining [TS]

00:43:58   somebody trying to incite some kind of a [TS]

00:44:01   whisper campaign where enough people [TS]

00:44:03   know about something i could just be [TS]

00:44:04   there just shoot the shit you say oh [TS]

00:44:06   well you know this guy was real drunk in [TS]

00:44:07   the studio or something like that if it [TS]

00:44:09   feels like it feels like that is that is [TS]

00:44:12   human not as humanity or that is that [TS]

00:44:15   that is one of the foundational elements [TS]

00:44:17   of civilization you get I mean I mean I [TS]

00:44:19   mean this preschool with my daughter [TS]

00:44:21   what the hell do these moms stand around [TS]

00:44:23   talking about after a certain after [TS]

00:44:25   you're after you're done talking about [TS]

00:44:27   what a dumb little idiot and shitty [TS]

00:44:29   roommates your kids are [TS]

00:44:30   they just start talking about the other [TS]

00:44:33   moms and yes it's insidious yes it's [TS]

00:44:36   usually talk about things that have [TS]

00:44:38   disappointed them in my experience [TS]

00:44:40   that's the common that's the common [TS]

00:44:42   parent topic is is what's disappointing [TS]

00:44:43   disappointing about oh you know just [TS]

00:44:47   about about just something that didn't [TS]

00:44:49   go their way it could be and it could be [TS]

00:44:51   something germane like talking to a [TS]

00:44:54   teacher [TS]

00:44:55   it could be something with a cleaning [TS]

00:44:56   person it could be I don't know that the [TS]

00:44:59   yoga studio change the recipe for their [TS]

00:45:01   lattes I don't know but I mean you know [TS]

00:45:03   it's I think there's the the effort [TS]

00:45:05   other people say this but the one the [TS]

00:45:06   one topic the that almost every American [TS]

00:45:08   can talk to someone else about as bad [TS]

00:45:09   customer service [TS]

00:45:11   I think we're always willing to bitch [TS]

00:45:12   about how we feel like we've been [TS]

00:45:14   treated by other people [TS]

00:45:15   that's pretty much what almost every [TS]

00:45:16   conversation eventually comes down too [TS]

00:45:18   well and I guess that is the definition [TS]

00:45:20   of talking shit right maybe talking [TS]

00:45:22   about the bad customer service you got [TS]

00:45:25   from a friend or co-worker or something [TS]

00:45:28   operation artist its kind of that you're [TS]

00:45:30   being malicious in saying those things [TS]

00:45:32   you know we all have opinions that we we [TS]

00:45:35   have we may have opinions may be strong [TS]

00:45:37   opinions may be controversial opinions [TS]

00:45:39   some of which we keep to ourselves in [TS]

00:45:40   some of which we don't think the talking [TS]

00:45:42   shit opponent is that you're out there [TS]

00:45:44   like deliberately trying to undermine me [TS]

00:45:46   with friends and strangers by saying [TS]

00:45:49   something that I that person probably [TS]

00:45:51   feels is not true i'm guessing [TS]

00:45:53   yeah it's a design on the number is [TS]

00:45:56   right or wrong but I think that's what [TS]

00:45:57   most people mean it's like you're saying [TS]

00:45:58   untrue things about me behind my back [TS]

00:46:00   and trying to make me look bad and I [TS]

00:46:03   guess I feel like that is that is a that [TS]

00:46:07   is pretty rare like what type of person [TS]

00:46:10   goes out and intentionally says [TS]

00:46:11   something untrue to make another person [TS]

00:46:13   looked at it seems like that hat that [TS]

00:46:15   would have to be a lot rarer occurrence [TS]

00:46:17   then people saying something that they [TS]

00:46:22   kind of know is true about a person that [TS]

00:46:26   I knew that they had a little Christian [TS]

00:46:28   in in like in dishonest inaccurate part [TS]

00:46:31   that's the part you think is rare [TS]

00:46:32   well you bad things to say about people [TS]

00:46:35   without having to make them up [TS]

00:46:36   yeah like this local producer he felt [TS]

00:46:38   like i was talking shit about him [TS]

00:46:39   because some musician that came to work [TS]

00:46:42   with him since wait till now [TS]

00:46:44   talk i talked to John Roderick and he [TS]

00:46:46   said that you were a snob about hit the [TS]

00:46:49   the music that you made together and [TS]

00:46:52   it's like well uh that isn't talking [TS]

00:46:55   shit that is like a yelp review that is [TS]

00:46:58   or maybe yelp reviews are talking shit [TS]

00:47:01   but like how else do we know who to work [TS]

00:47:04   within who told rain right if you don't [TS]

00:47:06   consult your other friends who have [TS]

00:47:08   worked with people and they give you an [TS]

00:47:10   honest and and I think his expectation [TS]

00:47:12   and the expectation in in this community [TS]

00:47:15   would be that I would say you know it's [TS]

00:47:18   that it's that whole business of [TS]

00:47:19   recommendation letters right where the [TS]

00:47:23   recommendation letters like they [TS]

00:47:25   performed their duties and I was like [TS]

00:47:29   the damning with faint praise yeah like [TS]

00:47:30   that's not really much of a [TS]

00:47:32   recommendation and the expectation that [TS]

00:47:33   some users would say how was it working [TS]

00:47:36   with du DX and i would say it was [TS]

00:47:39   sufficient [TS]

00:47:41   I mean you know maybe that's that seems [TS]

00:47:43   like just as much shit talking it's just [TS]

00:47:46   saying straight out like the guy was not [TS]

00:47:48   very good at every story the other day [TS]

00:47:51   about Jack Lemmon she's things on this [TS]

00:47:54   wiki page but the story goes that you [TS]

00:47:56   know Jaclyn and lemon as much as he was [TS]

00:47:57   like a cursing guy and stuff like that [TS]

00:47:59   he is a very very kind person who always [TS]

00:48:02   made time for other people he mentored [TS]

00:48:04   Kevin Spacey he just didn't sound like [TS]

00:48:07   he was just a really splendid guy but he [TS]

00:48:08   was pretty famous apparently in the [TS]

00:48:10   industry for never saying a bad word [TS]

00:48:12   about anybody and you can read this for [TS]

00:48:15   yourself with the story goes on Burt [TS]

00:48:16   Reynolds approached him about working [TS]

00:48:18   with this one director and general guy [TS]

00:48:20   you know he's okay he's okay Burt [TS]

00:48:22   Reynolds what work on any chemically [TS]

00:48:24   what we'll be talking about that guy [TS]

00:48:25   that guy's like the biggest asshole i've [TS]

00:48:27   ever met in my life is like the worst [TS]

00:48:29   gig i've ever had that well yeah I can [TS]

00:48:31   see how you say that you know so in a [TS]

00:48:33   way its you like kind of also be saying [TS]

00:48:35   well like that like it like it like a [TS]

00:48:38   incomplete [TS]

00:48:40   let's say recommendation letter [TS]

00:48:42   quote-unquote you're actually doing a [TS]

00:48:44   disservice because you're you're kind of [TS]

00:48:47   conveying [TS]

00:48:48   I guess depending on the tone of [TS]

00:48:50   conversation using at least having [TS]

00:48:51   somebody you're conveying approval tacit [TS]

00:48:54   Leon somebody where you probably should [TS]

00:48:56   give more information [TS]

00:48:57   well yeah it going with the producer guy [TS]

00:48:59   you would want to say to somebody about [TS]

00:49:00   spend money or give points or whatever [TS]

00:49:02   to say like oh this guy's this guy's [TS]

00:49:04   this is a guy you know you know it's [TS]

00:49:07   hard to make music it's hard to be in [TS]

00:49:08   the studio it's even in the best of [TS]

00:49:10   situations it's stressful and costly and [TS]

00:49:12   you know you would want to believe that [TS]

00:49:13   somebody you go in there with somebody's [TS]

00:49:15   gonna be looking out for you unlike my [TS]

00:49:17   dentist be looking out for you and [TS]

00:49:19   making sure that the best product [TS]

00:49:21   possible is being made in a way that [TS]

00:49:24   makes you look good makes music looks [TS]

00:49:25   good and where they go out of their way [TS]

00:49:27   and and you wouldn't you didn't have [TS]

00:49:29   that experience with this person kinda I [TS]

00:49:31   feel like I feel like culturally the the [TS]

00:49:37   attitudes that don't talk to the cops [TS]

00:49:41   attitude is like I is against society it [TS]

00:49:49   is not you know if they don't talk to [TS]

00:49:51   the cops is is this kind of stuff don't [TS]

00:49:54   don't snitch culture yet don't snitch [TS]

00:49:56   it's this sort of like urban circling [TS]

00:49:58   the wagons against the like the [TS]

00:50:02   perceived enemy of the cops but in fact [TS]

00:50:05   don't talk to the cops don't snitch when [TS]

00:50:08   that becomes endemic in a culture what [TS]

00:50:11   you end up with is a culture that is [TS]

00:50:13   root ruled by the Mafia you know like [TS]

00:50:16   the the way the Mafia gets power is that [TS]

00:50:19   it circulates this idea that that's [TS]

00:50:22   niching to the cops is ineffective and [TS]

00:50:25   is and is destructive to your you know [TS]

00:50:29   the unity of your of your smaller [TS]

00:50:32   community but what you end up then with [TS]

00:50:34   is no recourse to the cops no recourse [TS]

00:50:36   to the culture you only have recourse to [TS]

00:50:39   the ever-shrinking like snake eating its [TS]

00:50:44   tail of this of you know what the the [TS]

00:50:48   separate the separate law a of the kind [TS]

00:50:53   of the outsider law and I feel like that [TS]

00:50:55   is that is up [TS]

00:50:57   absolutely true with this in a different [TS]

00:51:00   way [TS]

00:51:01   with this like I never say anything bad [TS]

00:51:03   about anybody culture because what you [TS]

00:51:07   end up with is like like Walter Matthau [TS]

00:51:09   maybe was a very sweet man but I would [TS]

00:51:11   not trust his word about a thing you [TS]

00:51:14   know like I I you end up you end up [TS]

00:51:18   being trustworthy because if [TS]

00:51:20   everything's fine [TS]

00:51:21   well clearly everything isn't fine right [TS]

00:51:24   and I you know I I have always felt like [TS]

00:51:27   my friends are people about whom I speak [TS]

00:51:33   candidly end and I expect them to speak [TS]

00:51:37   candidly about me and that is the found [TS]

00:51:39   that is the foundation of our trust [TS]

00:51:41   not that they keep my secrets and I keep [TS]

00:51:44   theirs but rather that the what I like [TS]

00:51:48   about them is that there's no uh that [TS]

00:51:51   that candor isn't a threat to them and [TS]

00:51:54   Anna ultimately I feel like anyone to [TS]

00:51:56   whom candor is a threat is a district is [TS]

00:51:59   an untrustworthy person but I think [TS]

00:52:01   that's kind of endemic to things like [TS]

00:52:02   movies music politics i mean if you [TS]

00:52:06   speak outside of a certain kind of code [TS]

00:52:08   then you get your comeuppance because [TS]

00:52:12   when you when you speak as you say [TS]

00:52:14   candidly in certain ways about certain [TS]

00:52:16   things especially I think in politics [TS]

00:52:18   it has a very specific meaning to it it [TS]

00:52:21   means you're kind of you know taking off [TS]

00:52:22   the gloves [TS]

00:52:23   well yeah that but i but I increasingly [TS]

00:52:26   feel like that is our that is our duty [TS]

00:52:30   as people who are who want the world to [TS]

00:52:32   be a better place we cannot keep living [TS]

00:52:34   in in this new speak era of no bad news [TS]

00:52:41   no bad talk to me but i'm going to put [TS]

00:52:43   in politics though you know you have to [TS]

00:52:45   have that certain level of decorum you [TS]

00:52:48   know in order to keep working together [TS]

00:52:49   even when we disagree with each other [TS]

00:52:50   and but you know you never want to get [TS]

00:52:52   it to the point where like look what [TS]

00:52:53   happened with the we know with the [TS]

00:52:56   sequester whatever it's called you know [TS]

00:52:59   what we was getting kind of uglier and [TS]

00:53:00   uglier and more and more at this [TS]

00:53:03   it was it was you know you get beyond [TS]

00:53:05   that kind of surface level of like we [TS]

00:53:08   disagree on these things [TS]

00:53:10   this person is wrong it's down to this [TS]

00:53:11   person's bad but then pretty soon [TS]

00:53:13   and when you really strip it all away [TS]

00:53:14   you start to get to the basics of what [TS]

00:53:17   real bear bare-knuckle politics is which [TS]

00:53:21   is that we're all yeah we're all part of [TS]

00:53:23   the same hypocrisy much or whatever the [TS]

00:53:25   line is you know that they were all [TS]

00:53:27   they're all in this game where we where [TS]

00:53:28   we learn to circle our wagons around the [TS]

00:53:32   one who's growing in power and to [TS]

00:53:34   marginalize the one is falling out of [TS]

00:53:35   power and all the meeting that is not [TS]

00:53:37   part of politics it's about it but it's [TS]

00:53:39   the ugliness of politics i mean i feel [TS]

00:53:41   like the I feel like my main complaint [TS]

00:53:43   about the Obama administration is that [TS]

00:53:46   he never takes the gloves off [TS]

00:53:49   I wish that obama had been had had [TS]

00:53:53   spoken truth to power at the beginning [TS]

00:53:55   of his administration their their [TS]

00:53:56   decision to not prosecute the bush [TS]

00:53:59   administration for war crimes to not [TS]

00:54:01   ever speak ill of the Bush [TS]

00:54:03   administration which was a criminal [TS]

00:54:06   enterprise but in order you know in [TS]

00:54:09   order to preserve the Republic he he [TS]

00:54:12   entered office with this you know [TS]

00:54:14   basically like Ford pardoning Nixon this [TS]

00:54:18   blanket part of of ten or eight years of [TS]

00:54:23   in of total insanity and they never [TS]

00:54:25   revisited and and the Obama [TS]

00:54:27   administration never says like the [TS]

00:54:29   problems that we're having today are a [TS]

00:54:30   direct result of these and these maniacs [TS]

00:54:33   from you know from eight years ago they [TS]

00:54:37   just it's just like all happy talk and [TS]

00:54:40   I'd and I don't believe in it because [TS]

00:54:42   and this is the this is the problem with [TS]

00:54:44   monitoring language instead of ideas you [TS]

00:54:48   know at a certain point we we as a [TS]

00:54:52   culture we said we no longer use the [TS]

00:54:54   word nigger and then it was like we no [TS]

00:54:56   longer use the word Negro and then we no [TS]

00:54:58   longer use the word black but racism [TS]

00:55:00   survived and people like David Duke [TS]

00:55:05   learn just to use the word urban and all [TS]

00:55:09   of his followers knew that urban meant [TS]

00:55:11   black and in most cases all elements [TS]

00:55:14   followers knew that urban myth nigger [TS]

00:55:16   but the butt so that so the the work [TS]

00:55:20   that we did two to expunge the language [TS]

00:55:24   of its ugliness [TS]

00:55:26   had very little effect on expunging the [TS]

00:55:30   rotten core of a all it did was was [TS]

00:55:35   masking under seven layers of euphemism [TS]

00:55:38   and I am I am absolutely a proponent of [TS]

00:55:42   cutting through euphemistic language [TS]

00:55:46   when talking about [TS]

00:55:48   I i don't think i do not think and this [TS]

00:55:51   is that this is the thing that this is [TS]

00:55:52   bellingham ahead its core the idea that [TS]

00:55:55   civic discourse that civility is the [TS]

00:56:00   thing that preserves our comfort and our [TS]

00:56:04   way of life and that if we all step [TS]

00:56:07   aside to let one another go through the [TS]

00:56:08   door first that that is what constitutes [TS]

00:56:11   civilization and in fact it's just it's [TS]

00:56:16   just ever deadening layers of politeness [TS]

00:56:19   that mask our you know what that mask [TS]

00:56:24   this this like growing animal hatred we [TS]

00:56:27   have for one another [TS]

00:56:29   I wish there was more more honesty like [TS]

00:56:34   that when Clinton was when Clinton was [TS]

00:56:38   was pilloried for his blowjob in the [TS]

00:56:41   Oval Office or whatever and he's out [TS]

00:56:44   there you familiarize unless and right [TS]

00:56:48   and lot bare faced lying and revealing [TS]

00:56:53   himself revealing himself to be a you [TS]

00:56:56   know a stupid duplicitous and-and-and [TS]

00:56:59   obfuscator and all this like you watched [TS]

00:57:03   his character just kind of come apart [TS]

00:57:05   through that whole experience when I i [TS]

00:57:07   still cannot understand why he didn't [TS]

00:57:10   sit in his chair and say none of your [TS]

00:57:12   business next question like ultimately [TS]

00:57:15   it was it was none of anyone's business [TS]

00:57:19   it did not affect [TS]

00:57:22   the the the execution of his office none [TS]

00:57:25   of it had anything to do with his [TS]

00:57:27   effectiveness as president was not [TS]

00:57:29   anybody's business and she of all people [TS]

00:57:32   have the power at that moment to say I [TS]

00:57:35   will not answer this line of questioning [TS]

00:57:37   it is irrelevant to the to the conduct [TS]

00:57:41   of this office and in any argument like [TS]

00:57:44   that his character was on trial here [TS]

00:57:47   your e people's character like that is [TS]

00:57:51   what elections are for you judge a [TS]

00:57:53   person on their character and then you [TS]

00:57:54   elect them and then the you're no longer [TS]

00:57:57   they're no longer running you know their [TS]

00:58:00   character is no longer the question and [TS]

00:58:05   so I feel like I mean with my mayoral [TS]

00:58:08   candidate yesterday lost his election [TS]

00:58:11   the other guy 1 and in is like the load [TS]

00:58:21   the day that basically the day of the [TS]

00:58:23   election i got an e-mail appointing me [TS]

00:58:27   to a commission and i am now a [TS]

00:58:33   commissioner the the city arts and film [TS]

00:58:40   and music commission i am now on that [TS]

00:58:43   Commission it's a three or four-year [TS]

00:58:46   appointment [TS]

00:58:47   well congratulations man and you mean [TS]

00:58:49   now call me the commish it try and stop [TS]

00:58:53   me and it this commission meets every [TS]

00:58:58   month in the city hall in a hearing room [TS]

00:59:02   which is open to the public and I think [TS]

00:59:06   maybe our Commission meetings are [TS]

00:59:07   broadcast on the public access channel [TS]

00:59:10   leave and like citizens can come in and [TS]

00:59:14   standard microphone and comment and we [TS]

00:59:19   will conduct some business of the city [TS]

00:59:23   and like this is the this is and this is [TS]

00:59:28   a committed as a commission i have [TS]

00:59:29   accepted [TS]

00:59:31   and I i can understand politically like [TS]

00:59:35   is this is this one of those things [TS]

00:59:37   where like the president pardons 50 [TS]

00:59:42   people on his last day in office [TS]

00:59:43   I don't understand why was appointed to [TS]

00:59:47   this like for your position was [TS]

00:59:49   thanksgiving us at the time of year when [TS]

00:59:51   you save one turkey from the table up [TS]

00:59:54   but anyway now i am i am an officially [TS]

00:59:57   appointed Commissioner Roderick that [TS]

00:59:59   sound like [TS]

00:59:59   sound like [TS]

01:00:00   sounds like you got a double-breasted [TS]

01:00:00   blazer for that but i it's going to be [TS]

01:00:03   very interesting to me sitting on this [TS]

01:00:05   commission which is now in the public [TS]

01:00:07   record and then the public sphere in a [TS]

01:00:09   in a in a small way and I think and an [TS]

01:00:13   ineffectual way or I can't imagine that [TS]

01:00:15   this commission it i don't believe i am [TS]

01:00:17   granted the power to tax i do get a [TS]

01:00:21   parking pass for City Hall flow sweet [TS]

01:00:25   right she can i use the bathrooms too i [TS]

01:00:28   can use the bathrooms at City Hall I [TS]

01:00:29   mind again they can't throw ya i might [TS]

01:00:31   have a by might even get a laminated [TS]

01:00:33   card that says Commissioner but it's [TS]

01:00:36   going to be very curious to see like how [TS]

01:00:37   I how this tiny little toe in the water [TS]

01:00:41   of like public life how it plays out for [TS]

01:00:45   me because I you know I don't think [TS]

01:00:48   there's anything at stake but I'm going [TS]

01:00:49   to be sitting up on a day as well as [TS]

01:00:51   some KY when some guy with dander on his [TS]

01:00:54   fleece vest stands there and yells at me [TS]

01:00:56   about how how they closed down his [TS]

01:01:00   Street to film an episode of mad about [TS]

01:01:02   you and that's not still shows and I'm [TS]

01:01:07   gonna be like listen guy you know you're [TS]

01:01:09   talking about that's okay I got better [TS]

01:01:11   things to think about [TS]

01:01:13   I'm trying to get ziplines put it in [TS]

01:01:14   this hole so don't waste my time if [TS]

01:01:16   yelling at me you got how many bags you [TS]

01:01:18   got how many grocery bags have you got [TS]

01:01:20   there we got like 14 grocery bags get [TS]

01:01:23   out of here [TS]

01:01:24   yeah I mean I know it's early early [TS]

01:01:26   goings early days but i can't wait to [TS]

01:01:27   hear the planks in your platform [TS]

01:01:29   well yeah now i'm actually get a [TS]

01:01:30   platform I feel like you're your caution [TS]

01:01:33   the other day where you were like hey [TS]

01:01:34   are you sure that you should be talking [TS]

01:01:35   about this on the on the internet on the [TS]

01:01:38   on the airwaves you know I feel like I i [TS]

01:01:41   have to keep at first of all there's [TS]

01:01:44   nobody listening to this program that's [TS]

01:01:45   going out us em right it's all within a [TS]

01:01:48   message was talking shit it's a total [TS]

01:01:50   cult audience now everybody is like [TS]

01:01:52   they're all they're all it moving the [TS]

01:01:55   deck chairs around the Titanic who's [TS]

01:01:56   gonna who's going to say I i think that [TS]

01:01:59   i think Merlyn John are dangerous and [TS]

01:02:01   must be stopped [TS]

01:02:03   I don't think there's any I mean it's [TS]

01:02:05   good only some random person that swings [TS]

01:02:07   and misses 21 episode you can take them [TS]

01:02:09   out no process these people are maniacs [TS]

01:02:11   that's right we'll just lonely got [TS]

01:02:12   called up again we could certainly have [TS]

01:02:14   the seventh circle the wagons around [TS]

01:02:15   that person you know they're going to [TS]

01:02:16   come out of their apartment and in their [TS]

01:02:18   hallway there's just going to be super [TS]

01:02:21   train stickers that right girl on every [TS]

01:02:24   flat surface so they're gonna be like oh [TS]

01:02:25   fuck i had no idea who is messing with [TS]

01:02:29   the name of the actual Commission the [TS]

01:02:31   Seattle film and music Commission wow so [TS]

01:02:35   presumably like some like michael bay is [TS]

01:02:39   going to come and and may try to make a [TS]

01:02:41   dinosaur movie in seattle at some point [TS]

01:02:43   and I'm gonna have to approve [TS]

01:02:46   I'm gonna have to be one of the [TS]

01:02:48   commissioners who approves or denies his [TS]

01:02:51   permits to you know to block off the [TS]

01:02:54   streets for taking a moment to review [TS]

01:02:56   your Brachiosaurus easement objects here [TS]

01:03:01   that are used to uh made transformers [TS]

01:03:05   and i have to say that was a shooting a [TS]

01:03:08   movie gotta have your personal assurance [TS]

01:03:12   that will we're not gonna be facing a [TS]

01:03:15   situation which she had looking like [TS]

01:03:17   it's going to be beaten up by robust it [TS]

01:03:19   might also be trucks but I've got one [TS]

01:03:22   pair of glasses down on the end of my [TS]

01:03:24   nose [TS]

01:03:25   what information is Commissioner Roger [TS]

01:03:26   talking like that you know glasses on a [TS]

01:03:29   gold chain one pair of glasses on top of [TS]

01:03:31   my head [TS]

01:03:32   Oh bigger party so I need to get some [TS]

01:03:36   white three piece suits made you do you [TS]

01:03:39   do and I'd like to see you have like a [TS]

01:03:41   cane with like a tip on that you can tap [TS]

01:03:43   on the table when you're getting [TS]

01:03:44   restless [TS]

01:03:45   look at me i'm the big actor haha we [TS]

01:03:49   still talking about this [TS]

01:03:53   right [TS]

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