Ep. 86: "The Junius Issue"
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hello age on Merlin a feeling I'm well I
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on the mend
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I'm well no it's a chris wallace voice
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oh yeah yeah I think I've never I've
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never loved that response
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I'm well is it that's a bellingham thing
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yeah it's the it's the old days the bear
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trap of of getting if you say I'm good
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how are you I'm good
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oh I'm well that's just a little bit of
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like a you're doing well you're doing
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it's a little bit of a like a backhanded
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slap it's just a light like like kid
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gloves slap you doing leaving no
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footprints
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haha you I'm well we talked to a week
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ago and you were in the throes of
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illness
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yep you know i'm i'm slow to recover i'm
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slow to heal
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he sounds so much better oh I feel I'm
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so I'm a hundred percent better except
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that i'm slow to heal so there's the
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there's probably another week of like
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just every once in awhile be like
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laughing at something and a big ball of
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flame will come flying out let you
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laughs great
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yeah that's right back back in the cave
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another nine months without laughing
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the thing about having a child of course
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is that you laughs more because children
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are ridiculous yeah so I'm laughing all
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the time now
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laughing child laughing are constantly
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know she's a she's a total clown
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yeah but you know we laugh together at
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what a clown her mother is this you know
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that can imagine they they pay you back
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in kind though they do you know I'm
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surrounded by women I always them and
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now i'm especially surrounded by women
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there there are no I mean Colonel
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surviving men in my family my mom my
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uncle jack is eighty seven maybe eight
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lives in Alaska my uncle Junius
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lives here in Seattle but i don't see it
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very often a great name
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junius yeah Junior's rochester oh come
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on really
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junius rochester his father Alfred
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rochester and his mother Marguerite
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rochester names used to be so much
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junius and genius was named after my
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great uncle Julius who was named f2 his
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great-uncle genius sounds Roman geniuses
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brother george alfred Caldwell rochester
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founded the seattle public library but
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his great-uncle genius was one of the he
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was the dead i have intelligence started
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my great-great-uncle genius who was
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responsible for the founding of the
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Washington State Bar Association because
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the lawyers in seattle agreed that they
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needed some kind of association that
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could censure my bike rack great-uncle
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they were like they were like we need to
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Center this man and we don't even have
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an organization powerful enough to do it
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so they founded a bar association just
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to give him just to dis Tek dis bar him
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from their bar easy like you'd have to
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do a lot of stuff pretty bad over and
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over fresh its complex to create an
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organization to smite you would fit a
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lot of work but what is the feather in
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his cap the thing that they really were
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were really open arms about was that he
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basically instigated that the
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anti-chinese riots on the waterfront
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here in Seattle and forced the and you
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know he and a mob an angry literally a
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torch carrying mob like march to the the
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Chinese residents of Chinatown down to
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the docks and said you're either getting
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on that boat to san francisco or you're
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going in the water
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well what what what area is what years
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1890 you're kidding that's an amazing
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yeah and then some of the most of the
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Chinese got on the boat and went down to
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San Francisco
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would their descendants are still
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probably living peacefully there
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yeah that was at a time when the Chinese
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were the big scare and my
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great-great-uncle immigrant from
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Kentucky and that if not veteran of the
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Civil War than his brother fought in the
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Civil War and came up here and and
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decided to to you know bring a little
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touch of southern xenophobia to the
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northwest headline just keeps moving
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north that's good form of of these
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chinese people cannot live here anymore
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these chinese people who helped us build
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the railroad you know who basically
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built the railroad and improved the West
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in innumerable ways now have to go do
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you uh do you know what happened it says
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did this is a so they formed the Bar
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Association what's that
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so they think they picked the name yeah
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I had they had they had their the salad
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course that's right that's right now our
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business
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junius rochester gentlemen let's go
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ahead and move on to the cutiest she's
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not so moved
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well you know this was the northwest and
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it was a small them small town and I
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think they censored him and then he went
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on to be a he went on to pretty sure
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have a some sort of dubious hand in the
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founding of Columbia City a southern
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suburb of of Seattle AP you know he
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became a real estate speculator and
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founded columbia city and then I don't
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know he's probably hit by a streetcar or
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somebody Chinese tweak some other
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inglorious Northwest way of you know he
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was eaten by a salmon
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he didn't he didn't survive to he did
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not survive to the era where I have a
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tremendous volume of information about
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him and this partly this is that my
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uncle genius and uncle genius is really
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a second cousin once removed but he is
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let me see if I can describe this Junius
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was 10 when my dad was 21 and so juniors
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is not quite my dad's generation but he
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certainly is he is 80 now and that was
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his grandfather do you know Junius his
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geniuses grandfather and my grandfather
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were the same man
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okay george alfred no no I'm sorry wait
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a minute juniors his grandfather and my
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great-grandfather were the same man
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george alfred Caldwell rochester and so
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it was genius is great on all or great
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great on pole i think and maybe my god i
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can't keep it all straight but did that
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thing about geniuses that he is a
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historian and has and is a generation
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older than me so he stood between me and
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all the good stuff right so Mike my
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grandfather's no way my
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great-grandfather's desk sits in junior
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sizes living room and every time I come
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jenya says John did you notice your
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great-grandfather's desk there and I
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have to grind my teeth he should he
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should put little post-its there for my
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beloved john morgan Roderick so you
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think when the estate sale or the estate
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is settled you know ya get a leg up what
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we do the desk you think the thing is no
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one else in the entire family could tell
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you when the 20th century was right like
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geniuses kids my brother is very active
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on social media
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she is she is but if you said 20 century
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go she'll be like uh-huh all dr. you
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know it might have my older brothers and
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sisters none of them care right i mean
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the the desk would end up in the ocean
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except there is except there is that one
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little thread running through my family
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as through all families which is the
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thread of women
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on once it oh well i don't know i think
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that your graduation furniture grudges
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are pretty common or you know what i
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mean when there's a piece of old
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something going around that becomes like
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it's it's the way like when angry people
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get divorced
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you know they make the kid yeah yeah the
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battlefield I think things like things
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that used to belong to dead people get
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your soon-to-be dead people become very
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hot items
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well and this is the thing i have
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reconciled myself to this the desk the
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end tables the the baby spoons the you
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know whatever the fuck he the center
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from the Washington State Bar
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Association like whoever wants that
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stuff if it's that important to them
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they can have it but I know that my
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uncle genius has boxes of papers all the
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letters all he knows where all the
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bodies are buried and geniuses that is
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that generation prior to me where it is
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he is still embarrassed by the crimes of
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our family of the generations of our
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family prior right
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junius would never ever ever publicly
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admit that that the Rochester's were
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behind the anti-chinese rides nor
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norwood jr known normal Junius cop to
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any of the other you know their their
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myriad crimes against humanity that the
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you know and so he genius is very proud
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to hold up a photostat of the of the
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official pardon that President Grant
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granted his great-great-grandfather ab
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Alfred but see I don't even know his
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this is the problem anything like that
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archive John I know and the thing is
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there's an oil painting of this man in
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his Confederate you know Colonel's
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outfit or Brigadier you know dress blues
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there's an oil painting of the man and I
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don't know anything about him and when
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that when i asked genius
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it's like
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he knows i want to know Andy his desire
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to tell me is trumped only by his desire
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to have me want to know and not know
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that's all he has left its really it's
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very probably guys we got the price of
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the price is right and soup and
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withholding from you it's very deep
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it's very deep located at one point my
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my aunt Julie Julie that's 222 names but
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one name right that they used to do that
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in names
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yeah Julie decided that she needed to
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that she wanted to be a member of the
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Daughters of the American Revolution and
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she she traced our family and she this
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is you know of course before the
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internet what we had to send letters to
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like the postmasters and say would you
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dear dear postmaster of of you know of a
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wide-leg Ohio will you send your
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daughter out to the cemeteries and make
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rubbings of all the stones that you know
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like you to research your family before
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the Mormons on the internet was very
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difficult but she figured out that my
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great-great-great-great
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great-great-great grandfather was john
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page colonial governor of virginia and
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childhood friend of Thomas Jefferson and
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so decisions like a lock
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oh it's dead-on and everybody everybody
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was granted
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yeah yeah she's a daughter the
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pre-revolution oh yeah i mean if i
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wanted to fill out the paperwork i would
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be a son of the american revolution by
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already feel like a son of the American
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Revolution as we all do at the only free
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conservative that group
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mmm definitely the sons of the
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Confederacy which I also more than
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qualified for our have taken a turn for
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people who held other humans and bonded
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really cheap conservatism has really
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reparation direction and think about I
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around if i were to be really honest
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with myself stuff that I remember but
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pushing a wagon she's doing this and I I
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stuff that goes into Junius geniuses
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family history works i think it is and
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celebrate the aseptic walt whitman
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that you can look behind three or more
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curtains and not find some terrible news
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you know just consistently awful and so
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generations and over time you know we
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only use a really skewed idea that will
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wear the first messed up generation
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centuries because nobody because nobody
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first generation where social standing
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family and blood right
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we live in a world where social standing
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new money and buy your you know and by
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like your 15 minutes of fame
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Cracraft fame but my uncle juniors and
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my father and and and even me I mean I
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feeling like your family name was where
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your what was the the locus of your
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honor and that's almost completely gone
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it in America or in the West maybe back
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east people still ask like so what's
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your father do where your father go to
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something where people at the middle
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scrambling to look at right but whereas
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still gonna do what I mean the upper
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classes a picture of people with money
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people who have that lineage sure if
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you've got the family tree and all that
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wanted but there's so many and even the
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last I don't be productive in the last
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people who have like five and a half
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parents know it's like Hanukkah
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bush and you are the 42nd president the
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united states 43rd whatever you don't
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the american revolution because the
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line it or if you're jonathan coulton or
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somebody like that who clearly came over
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daughters of the american revolution is
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for people who live out in San Francisco
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to scramble over one another's you know
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carcasses on the way to some cocktail
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party up on Nob Hill I I guess I almost
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wonder if a little bit tom wolfe here
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wonder if it's some point maybe around
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the sixties and definitely seventies it
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to be part of not a burden but if you
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Rockefeller or whatever but like the
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thing is if you followed that sort of
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lineal name-dropping like two things are
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going to happen first of all it's gonna
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be obvious what a loser you are that
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you're you know Bing Crosby the third or
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whatever which is like oh you're not as
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famous as the other one
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ok so what do you do you work at the DMV
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is like nobody-nobody in America there's
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a great phrase you know you get a phrase
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born with a silver spoon in his mouth
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george w bush maybe earlier that he he
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triple right and I i'll use the second
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half of that phrase sometimes you know
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for people who think somebody else got
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something easy i think people don't want
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that i think especially in a post 1960s
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like they got where they were because of
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their last name they wanted to be merit
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or they wanted to be values or brand in
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somebody's mighty that word again but
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you know I think today people really
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want to feel like they made their own
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way or look at somebody like there's a
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wonderful comic that you would love
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called Lucky written by a guy named Joe
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Hill who achieve his a claim with
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locking key by greatly covering up the
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fact that he was stephen king's son huh
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because he knew if you go out there and
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something happened what's your name that
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ass and lady like you know if you go out
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there and let everybody know that you're
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whatever ravi shankar's daughter
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that's gonna happen it's going to cost
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strong reactions to people that
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regardless of which way they look at it
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are not going to be that beneficial for
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you in the long run I guess that makes
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yeah absolutely can you kind of like a
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tool to walk around going like well you
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know well of course you should give me
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my big mac at a discount I'm descended
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from you know Chinese haters or whatever
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changed him and I think you're right
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that part of it is that is the is the
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candy flake Tom Wolfe overturning of the
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change where we felt like those families
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the later descendants are a weaker
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strain of the blood but that though that
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that their control of the resources and
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the culture has as imperiled us or that
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they you know it's the rise of the
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conspiracy that those families are
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actually dangerous and not not to
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nothing to aspire to but something to
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eradicate but also I think as late as
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the seventies you know the richest
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people on Wall Street a a pretty rich
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investment banker made five times what a
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normal lawyer would make like that index
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of what the CEO makes a multiple of the
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lowest pay personal hell yea right so so
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you know like a really high powered
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Seattle lawyer would make fifty thousand
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dollars a year in 1965 and maybe like a
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the head of a wall street bank would
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make 250 thousand dollars a year and
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that was just like you know back when
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when being a millionaire was was still
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really something and and now we live in
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this world where there are 27 year olds
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that are making seven hundred thousand
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dollars a year as investment bankers
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just old money but but that the the
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bulwark that old money old families used
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to represent you know they were the they
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were the our cultural heritage or they
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kept you know that the membership in the
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yacht club was the highest thing you
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could aspire to and now it's like you're
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you know you're Connecticut yacht club
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your your dusty old Connecticut yacht
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club like these these these guys have
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got private jets and they're living in
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Moscow or whatever so there's just no
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who cares right i mean i'm probably
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there are 25 year-olds listening to this
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program right now that are just like not
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even getting the idea that
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social standing was once largely a
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component of who your parents were and
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not at all and you know it was not that
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you went to Harvard and that's why
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people respected you and you got a good
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it was that your father was so-and-so
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and that's why you went to Harvard and
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people respected you and kinda job you
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now we now we have eliminated the the
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first step we still have the we still
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think that going to Harvard is like a
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big deal but that seems like the
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beginning I don't know it's a partly
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because that is not the same virtual
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guarantee of I mean obviously you're a
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they if you don't have this then we're
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gonna look a little harder to all these
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different things but you know I think I
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guess that still opens a lot of doors
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but um jammer look to say meritocracy i
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upset in in the whole way we think about
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status and and even even in the time
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media or you look at stuff like you know
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when I go to my hot dog place and and
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it's everyday it's a it's like Maury
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my daughter just she's completely
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hypnotized by it and it will still
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throwing chairs at each other on chosen
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episode is about paternity and it's
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about whether or not this is this is
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someone's baby right daddy or whatever
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it's mostly it's a lot of very very
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heavy ethnic minorities clowning around
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for what probably 700 bucks but you get
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to be on TV gets beetles are dulce
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juggalos I don't know you hear things
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about these like databases where you can
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like register I've heard this for 20
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years that you can register
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these databases to appear on things like
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those shows and you go in and talk about
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what your special liabilities are or
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what your what your beef is and then the
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producers going kind of shop those but
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that all has been so upturn you know to
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wear today I think about now Leonard
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Bernstein's might look at the Black
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in the sixties whereas today I mean you
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were talking about how you like you you
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know you people who are making tax and
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techno mix you know we want you might
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really admire somebody who makes this
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application that you like a lot even
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though you don't need not know how much
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they make me a care but they're used to
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for lack of a better word their
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influence is very interesting that the
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fact that there is somebody who's 25
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have a friend is 25 and he's on his
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second companies getting buyout offers
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on his second company at 25 and he's not
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a douche he's just extremely good
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manager and he's really smart and he's
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good with people and I not right like
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something like that i'm very attracted
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to somebody like that the property
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eventually he has pretty good money now
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and I'm sure he'll have more later but
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it doesn't matter what his last name is
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right now it could be a made-up name it
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doesn't matter like where he went to
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college where there is that the merit of
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that is very appealing to people and I
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think that's I think that's pretty
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different whereas in like maybe the
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forties or fifties you might look at
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something like that gone well this this
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this could be you know like you know one
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little rose among the dandelions you got
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an eye on this guy in the forties and
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fifties the the primary difference is
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that that guy at 25 years old might have
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been on his second company but he would
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not have been a multi-millionaire
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because there just wasn't that kind of
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capitalization right of things right so
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he would have he would be a wealthy man
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but he would still be sort of living in
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an apartment in New York City and the
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real achievement you know that maybe he
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would be maybe they were right about him
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in the wall street journal but the real
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achievement would be that he would be
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invited to join
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a certain men's club and that the people
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standing at the gates of that would you
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know would either that who his father
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was or in the case that he was you know
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and i think it was incredible success
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they would bend their own rules in order
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to you know like well I know that you're
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you know because because he had
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something that there's something about
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his status he brought something to that
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place those places don't let you know
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we've talked about this with money
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before they can even give you money
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because they like you they give you
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money because they think they can make
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more money than they're giving you and
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instances like that if it's about status
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to reward you for having arrived they
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only want you there if you make them
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look better right now but at the time
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there just wasn't the money that there
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is now and i mean this is this is that
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it's it's so profound because in a way
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this this super moneyed class and the
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super money of San Francisco and and
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downtown New York and such a certain
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extent Seattle like it is a it's it
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there quantities of money that transcend
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every other metric for the every other
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metric that human beings used to
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separate one another like if you walk
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into that class of ultra-rich there
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it does not matter if you did nothing
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about you matters except that right
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you could if you become super rich and
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decide to change your gender & it and
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somebody reveals that your your mother
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was Jewish and your father was pakistani
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and his father killed gandhi
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at all would be forgiven there would be
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no that we would not look at you in the
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slightest way differently because our
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only way of looking at you is that you
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are worth 1 billion dollars like that's
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a it's a new it is a new that the the to
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be that rich that is to be so rich that
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transcends race which is which has been
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the primary like human problem right for
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our whole history to be so rich that
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people don't even see your race anymore
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is a it's a new it's a new step and
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there's no Club in America I don't think
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that would keep a billionaire out
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because he was a Jew and that is that
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was not true even 20 years ago there you
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know anti-semitism was more powerful
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than money up to just like 10 years ago
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really but i don't think that exists
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anymore I mean maybe somewhere in Europe
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maybe somewhere in Switzerland down a
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mineshaft there is a group of guys
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sitting around the table where they
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still won't let soros be a member of the
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of the group and I but but i doubt it
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you know it's a crazy it's a it's a
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crazy thing I've been playing a game
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with my friends lately which is the what
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if you what if you and I know you don't
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probably play the lottery and I don't
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either but if you did let's say you
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walked into a 7-eleven and you're like I
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give me a pack of sweet tarts and and to
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sexually with two hot dogs with pump
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chili and you know what give me a mega
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millions ticket and you just bought it
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on a whim and let's say two days later
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you it was revealed that you had 180
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million dollars and so you assume that
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70 million of that goes immediately to
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taxes so now you have a hundred and ten
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million dollars
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what do you do and this game is this
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game really makes people squirm
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because their initial answers like well
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you know I think I probably travel and I
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quit my job and you know I think I'd
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trying and trying to keep my head on my
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shoulders it's like no fuck you don't
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you know we're not living in a land of
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like problem now what exactly would you
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do first
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like what would you do first are you
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going to go home tonight and sleep in
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your own bed tonight hundred and ten
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million dollars you have now
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like what's the first thing you do and
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what's the second thing you do and do
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you have a lawyer who's your lawyer now
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I I thats it's a great game because it's
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so much more complicated anybody thinks
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first thing is I would be scared
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shitless
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yes and I would feel exposed oh yeah
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there's a big part of the lottery is
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telling you who won what that just makes
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you a big target so where do you go you
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go to a hotel right first night you
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don't go home
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yeah I I mean like just this this is not
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the answer you want but like it's the
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it's aligned with the answer I guess is
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that i would first start by the king
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oh my god I hope it's not hope it's at
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least a month before completely screw
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this up right now that I've gotten
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chunks of money before and done stupid
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stuff and it's you know I don't know I
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mean I see the i'm with you that people
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want to sit around a well I take care of
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all the college education stuff and I
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you know I took a year off to go dig
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ditches and Ghana or whatever and I
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don't think that's helped i mean i'm not
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happy if you gamble much but i mean i
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can make five hundred dollars a night
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playing blackjack on the computer and
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then in the casino i'm down 200 bucks an
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hour and the difference is even if it's
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a dollar even if it's a nickel if it's
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real money it's different and anybody
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who thinks that's otherwise is either
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lying or has never had a little bit of
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money right
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it changes everything and it's there
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studying God turns out there's reams and
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reams of research about how people will
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put this tight weird amount of value
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into a tiny little thing just because
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it's a game that they want to win or
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just because there's all kinds of crazy
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wiring in our heads especially as
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Americans that like I think we are all
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really hard wire to make a lot
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shade decisions about having that kind
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of money yes yes well that's like that's
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exactly right like what do we value and
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I look I look around you look around the
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room you're sitting in right now and say
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alright you have a hundred and ten
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million dollars boom it just arrived
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it's in your bank account
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what do you keep of the stuff that's in
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your room right now anything right
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I mean what do you what do you if you if
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you move to a nice place one of your
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stuff do you bring what do you put what
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do you have people put in boxes for you
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and bring to your new house like your
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college textbooks i think i think a
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hundred million is interesting but I
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think potentially two million is even
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more interesting because a hundred
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million like that's of course you know
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people people think oh no I'm going to
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be very wise now you're going to go buy
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a bunch of stupid stuff like you know
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what i mean the the thing is something
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like 30 million is much more scary
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because it would I mean you could blow
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that on one house
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yeah very easily you know I've said this
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think part of it is like people who look
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wealth and hmm they're gonna build a
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it's like you know if you had that
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hundred-million-dollar date just go go
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look in history look in the last 150
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years these dumbass state lotteries and
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go look at how many people today are
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really happy after they won over a
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hundred thousand dollars in the lottery
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and the numbers are not good because
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those people spent their entire not this
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people they play the lottery right to
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play the lottery most of those people
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had zero practice having money and it
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was thinking you can run a marathon it's
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like thinking that you can go out and
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play a rock show even though you never
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picked up a guitar any of that stuff
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it's exactly the same thing except now
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everybody knows you got a bunch of money
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the two the two million dollar amount is
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see that's a different game for me
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because i know and you know we know
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people who one day did have two million
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dollars like that is not an abstract
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amount of money anymore if if if we have
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been playing this game 15 years ago
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right 22 million dollars would have been
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like whoa
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what would i do that i like somebody I
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met a foundation board meeting at my
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college in 1990 right like one person
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like a little lady or something that
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like I was clutching her pearls around
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her neck but several friends that that
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sure more money than that and it's
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seared so do I you mean and not just
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people in rock and roll but like people
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or people just been the in the world
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that made a fuckin camera app you know
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but particularly the particularly like
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it's a fucking god damn camera app for a
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stupid ass goddamn phone and now they're
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sitting around with a solid gold thumb
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up their ass weighs 150 million
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different
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well the two million is different
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because i have thought about the
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two-million-dollar thing at that is an
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amount that it is not only plausible
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that some of our friends have you know
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had sort of like the check arrived but
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Merlin it is completely plausible that
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you will make 2 million dollars at one
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juncture or that i will like that is an
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amount of money that is it is possible
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we will see so it's different from a
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hundred million because i already have
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seen what two million dollars does to
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somebody
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yeah and I life really fucking
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complicated get your life gets more
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complicated but I've seen people do it
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well you know I've seen people I've seen
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people go through four million dollars
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and come out the other side with papas
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accept a divorce but I've also seen
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people you know have two to four million
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dollars and do it and make it you know
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come out the other side like with a
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higher definitely like they have more
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problems understand like an example like
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that you got to think more about just
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dumb stuff you can give me an example
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some time ago like theoretically there's
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somebody who your pals with and they're
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doing pretty ok and you take turns
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picking up the tab right right right
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then something happens
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somebody's ritual as things happen and
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now let's say hypothetically one of
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those people has 24 his or her own
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sanity become a lot more circumspect
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about picking up the tab
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yes because people going to start to
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expect that or the right of the envious
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or whatever right now and then you get
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the infrastructure and then you get it
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now you've gotta like get a birthday
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gift for the lawn guy and if you don't
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think that's real dude that is so rich
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the hammer problem it is back the hammer
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problem well it's yeah it's that it's
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now all of a sudden you're given valet
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parking guys 20 bucks I i want to repeal
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remind me to come back to this i was at
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the hotel this weekend did you see
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hammer know what I was at the tonga room
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yeah I was up on the roof what yeah yeah
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someone our talented up on the roof
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where I Spit on the San Francisco cable
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car and then the cablecard tweeted at me
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help my daughter over that presence is
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me and thought of you I thought finally
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have you did you like the view it's a
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beautiful view of you and she was she
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wasn't showing scared it's kind of weird
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and like she's wired right but so that
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the hundred million is in that the
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problem is like there's something that
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is probably bullshit you know anybody
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with a hundred million dollars
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yes and I know at least five people i
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think probably somebody is what is so
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great hundred is the hundred meant to be
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a in the trick of this trick question is
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that meant to be like you're not saying
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50 billion dollars can write saying
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$50,000 you're saying it's an amount
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that seems large enough to seem like on
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the face of it like you could maybe
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never spend it if you were never spend
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it all if you weren't you know a gambler
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something I feel like a hundred million
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is this amount where you easily could
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live on it and your descendants could
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live on it but you could also squander
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oh it's like that is it is a it you
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could either establish need that your
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family name for generations with a
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hundred million dollars i mean i don't
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know my father was pretty good friends
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with George warehouse her and I don't
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think the warehouses or worth a hundred
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million dollars in 1970 I mean maybe if
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you if you took all the land that they
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owned by me a hundred million dollars in
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1970 it was an inconceivable amount of
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money that was like that was inflation
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freaks me and it blows my mind all the
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time and they're just like I'm going to
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say this and I'm going to call one of my
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one of my periodic please don't respond
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the way you want to respond
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what it might cost if certain things
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happen in governance these days
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mmm mmm where this happened in 1995 and
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it costs a billion dollars and the
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speculation is that was this time it
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might be 2 billion dollars i was
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thinking about when I was a kid and the
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the most comfortable people the
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wealthiest people that we were very very
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good friends with owned a head for
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generations on a coal mine in Kentucky
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and they were the first people i know
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and i know this because my phone was in
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real estate in this woman sold real
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estate as well the first people i knew
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they had a house the cost a hundred
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thousand dollars
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yeah it was this is 1977-78 it was 100%
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custom every kid doing kid had a room
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with astro turf and a golf like going
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can't afford another guy had a bed on a
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raised a as another girl had probably
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I'd say probably 500 square foot bedroom
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was awesome they had their wet bars was
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so something like six bedrooms and had a
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telephone booth and operating telephone
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booth in there in there like record TV
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oh it was on was it was a British
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telephone booth like a red it's really
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cincinnati bell i'm guessing but it was
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no bit complete irish bar actually at
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the country of Ireland was then it was
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on beautiful land and they had dogs and
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200,000 but you were great people but it
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stays like that honestly John I'm sorry
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it does not seem like that long ago that
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was a hundred you remember do you
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remember the first time you heard the
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term a billion dollars
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yeah that's why that's when that joke
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started about you know billion with Abby
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because you're like no no i'm talking
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about a thousand times more than that
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yeah right reduced when Carl second
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would say billions and billions of stars
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the word billion was unfamiliar to us
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and his his coinage of billions and
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billions was like that the word billion
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about the signs in the parlance i do it
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was a science word like it was like like
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the word Google could the google glass
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like these weren't words in the in the
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in the common parlance because like when
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the Hunt Brothers cornered the silver
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market in 1980 and basically had bought
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up all the liquid silver all the all the
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silver that was being traded at an
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attempt to corner the world market on
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silver how much money we were talking
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about 50 million dollars me which seemed
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like an inconceivable amount of money at
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the time right and they drove silver up
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to fifty dollars now that way I i may be
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wrong about this 15 million dollars but
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like a billion dollars was the type of
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thing was only a term that got talked
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about in government budgets and land
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world population world population and
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maybe switch the number of stars in the
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yeah you're right million million is
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like now million barely registers not
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because I've got that kind of money but
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now when I hear million thrown out there
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because there are so many numbers we
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hear every day it doesn't even really
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register like us to it's like there are
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million notes in every one of my guitar
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solos we bought a house my mom bought a
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house when I was when I was 10 and was a
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very modest house but it was a
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three-bedroom house on with the front
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yard backyard climbing trees you know if
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it had some renovation but needed work
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but in 1976 my mom bought a
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three-bedroom want to have bath house
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for twenty-eight thousand dollars isn't
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that and then like even check this out
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now even in 1999 have a really good
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friend who he his wife and bought a
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house and then moved out here for to
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work at the place where I work
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he had a court is gonna kill you John he
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had a corner lot in Tallahassee on a
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beautiful Street in Tallahassee mature
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trees all around corner lot three
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bedrooms sixty thousand dollars
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yeah in the late nineties yeah doesn't
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that seem and then and then it was funny
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as then when my friend moved here and we
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worked the realestate.com together he
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would spend a lot of his decks just
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going through all the real estate
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listings to find the most unbelievable
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thing that he could find all right
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here's a really good one now
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a lower noe valley fire damage haha down
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450,000 anytime you see one of my deal
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and it's ABC fire-damaged it's something
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that God 650 yeah yeah and I all of this
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that like the the way that money has
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become unreal has detached my
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imagination from the real to like I do
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spend an inordinate amount of time
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looking up a dirt roads as I'm driving
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on you know two-lane blacktop in western
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washington looking up dirt roads into
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the trees just to see if maybe there's a
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drug deal gone wrong up there and
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there's a there's a van full of money
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this is the devil back scenario
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double-bag scenario like it is a it is
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becoming a sickness because money seems
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so comically unreal that it just seems
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like oh well sure there are duffel bags
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of money being driven down the road all
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around me did you see this thing in the
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the newspapers and said will the person
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who left the 10 pounds of gold bars and
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duffel bag full of cash in a blocker at
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the bus station please come forward
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the lockers that had expired and we
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found this like these pounds of gold and
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suitcase full of money and there appears
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to be no it doesn't seem like it's
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connected to a crime and we'd would just
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like to return it to its owner like are
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you kidding me
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and that's that sounds like a jam but
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that sounds like like chief Wiggum
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telling you to come get your boat you
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know if you think so you think so i
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think it's a little bit like that's my
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body haha that's the jackal comma Carlos
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please come collect your boat jackal
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try to look at the details on this right
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here because here's the here's the other
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side of this we talk about the unreality
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is a I think I don't know so my father
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was born just a few months before the
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crash oh no they didnt did her work this
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morning
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don't run out of buildings follow was
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born better gonna get the right number
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on this um but I think you know unless
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you're like me and a PBS buff ya ladies
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uh I think Ally i'm guessing a lot of
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people of our age and younger are not
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they know they know the Depression was
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bad the Great Depression they know it
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was bad they may see pictures of
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children selling apples but I'm not
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gonna put well you know what I almost
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went bad direction
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yeah let's just say this stuff happened
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in the twenties and thirties that nobody
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thought would ever happen
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the first thing that never happened
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where people who had a lot of money
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suddenly didn't have it
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yeah the crash and people like Groucho
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Marx and I'm i just remember hearing the
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crowd show
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well all I mean like seriously I think
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he's in less than a week he lost pretty
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much all because there was this part of
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the problem again part of the let me get
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my a great historical perspective in
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here part of the very problem with what
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led to the crash so many of the problems
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with one of them was that people were so
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heavily stuffing money into the stock
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market because it was such an obvious
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thing you're you get dummy right not to
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put all of your money into these stocks
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well just like in 1998 1999 precisely
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precisely even though even though
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delivering bags of pet food by US mail
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doesn't in retrospect seem like such a
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great idea
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hey i've got i've still got my kokomo a
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can message osman over them getting a
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job stainless i don't i don't actually
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have a coke mode but as a great bags
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I know it's a status symbol among a
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certain kind of aging i get my Christmas
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shopping recognize my Christmas shopping
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christmas shopping they just bring it to
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your house but but I anyway I just
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interesting to think about something
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like Groucho he and his brothers and he
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was you know
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I'm trying to think check out was big
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gambler
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it was always out of money everybody
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says Harper was great guy
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elska which ones fo nobody knows anyway
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Groucho's made a lot of dough and he's
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pretty good with money and I think he
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had perhaps at least hundreds of
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thousands maybe millions of dollars
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let's just say that by 1930 standards he
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done pretty well yeah and then in
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something like i'll say a month but I'm
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gonna get really more like three or four
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days it was just gone deef it was gone
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and guess what you owe money because now
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there's calls
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Yeah right there stuff where you had
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shorted to her you know what I mean like
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where you you had a cup and the term you
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know where you can shoot the market
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short-sheet the market and now they want
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to know where the legs that's right and
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so you end it go from being like set for
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the rest of your life to this looks bad
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to you it's all my god to now i owe
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yeah like that's it's just that that
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when people sit around and got a hundred
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nine dollars i go to flip zap zap I go
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do all this obviously safe stuff i mean
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it's i would be tempted to put in a bus
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Locker in Germany
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yeah well then this is the this is the
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one I keep coming back to which is that
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money is fake
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you know money is is fake and I was
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thinking about it the other day I was
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sitting in a hotel in portland and i
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realized that something had happened I
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don't remember when this happened but I
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had crossed a threshold where I no
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longer looked at the prices of items on
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menus like I have crossed a threshold
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where the most expensive item on the
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menu is no longer a daunting amount like
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Oh is the steak forty dollars is it
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fifty dollars like I'm I'm already
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committed to eating in this restaurant
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and I'm going to order the thing that I
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and I'm not gonna order the chicken
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because it's $18 i'm just going to order
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the steak and I'm not gonna whatever the
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price of the thing is no longer matters
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and that is a that is a threshold of
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prosperity that I went over at a certain
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point and most of us spend our lives the
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menu comes and sometimes you sit down in
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the wrong restaurant on the menu comes
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in you Blanche because you're like oh
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shit I didn't realize blast
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yeah right and i have blanched my whole
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life like the menu comes and I look at
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it like oh fuck I did not know that this
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was going to be a fifty-dollar steak
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let's skip wines get the hell out of
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here you know and you stand up and put
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the menu down and like tiptoe back out
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of the restaurant but at a certain point
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I whatever however I measure my
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prosperity it I I now realize that if
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i'm going to walk into a restaurant and
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sit down I'm going to order whatever the
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fuck I want and I'm not I don't look at
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the price and when the when the ticket
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comes i look at the amount on it only to
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calculate a generous tip and this is
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evident this is firsthand evidence of
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prosperity like i did not ever I didn't
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know that this was a measuring line
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again we even realize the you went from
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having an unconscious budget to not
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thinking about it
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yeah i did not aspire to one day I want
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to live in a world where I can order off
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the menu and not look at the price but
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one day I did that did happen
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um and so as I was sitting in this hotel
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lobby eating my mushrooms in garlic wine
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sauce that had been brought to me by by
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a delightful and capable server i was
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saying what is the next what is the next
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threshold for me is it that I by our be
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able to buy a car without thinking about
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how much it costs like there are people
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who say i want that car I want the
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porsche cayman because i am a tasteless
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person who wants an SUV that looks like
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a Porsche 911 like I want a
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thing I got that sounds awful I don't
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want have you not seen the porsche
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cayman I'm gonna get going
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the Porsche Cayman is a they were like
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we got to get in we have to get in on
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this SUV markets but we only make von
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Kahr which is the 911 wouldn't so even
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make it into an SUV and it's like no
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that is a terrible terrible terrible
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looking car it looks like it looks like
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a man i'm seeing looks like a regular
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sports car away now what it's not the
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came and what is that what is the what
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is the 911 was the 911 SUV it's got a
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name to find a porsche SUV porsche
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cayenne little Cayenne right not came
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and died and none of these are words why
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are they calling why are they using why
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are they using Central American words so
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this is the worst of every world
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yeah it looks like they took they took a
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corvette stingray and they crossed it
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with a with a dodge minivan and then
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they put a 911 front bumper on it anyway
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there are people that go down to the
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authority 9600 dollars for the standard
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model for the base model and get that
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the top track speed of 42 miles per hour
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yeah well there you gotta capitalize you
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can pick up diapers really fast like I
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was walking down the street the other
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day and a guy drives by in a Maserati
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and I was like right a Maserati like
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they still make Maseratis and it's a
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certain small small percentage of people
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still buy Maseratis and looking at this
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guy's he drove by and and and it was not
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sir mix-a-lot it was just a regular guy
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but looking as amazing as you drove by
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i'm guessing that he was not a Joe Walsh
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fan and not buying a Maserati like just
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because that was like a
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don't-don't-don't i love that he was a
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huge fan of funk number 49 and this is
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like the next to the next jam so people
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still buy Maseratis but they have to be
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people that are either likes betting the
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or there really are people that just as
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I no longer look at menu prices they are
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not concerned about how much cars cost
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like I'm gonna get this car and it is
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two hundred thousand dollars and I'm
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just going to go get it and that is a
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that I so I do I aspire to have that be
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my next one that's that's ridiculous
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closet minority report on that so first
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of all with many things now do the other
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thing you can do in the menu and I've
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done this in hotels is to like figure
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out like what it is that I want based on
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how much it costs because I probably
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want the most is when one example where
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I will probably just get the most
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expensive steak which is faster for me
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to find the most expensive to find the
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most expensive steak in order to be
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absolutely blown away not a way I
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conduct myself with any other kind of
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thing in the world right now as we've
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learned from where you you like yourself
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a top-shelf Nicaraguan who what are the
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Cuban nothing with their work i see are
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on I won't go into it
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yeah i've cut back on you can cut you
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can cut this all out now I want but no
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Mike my tasting those things is you know
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what you're willing to spend twenty
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dollars on the cigar for what di dunno
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but you know that's unusual so here's
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what I'm going to say about this as
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we've learned from watching the great
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tumblr rich kids on this Instagram and
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there are people who are there to let
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you know it like exactly how much it
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cost so i might not what I'm saying this
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might be obvious is I think some people
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are gonna look at the price i think if
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they've got the dough they might go in
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and make sure they didn't get the third
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most of all I see are getting there
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looking at the price but they're looking
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at it just captures get their heads with
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their cars sit around and talk about the
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dickhead cars
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yeah and they like they're going to line
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up the black BMW and talk about life i
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know there's always gonna think oh you
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didn't get the the sports rimjob rimjob
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share all of you rim job
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that looks that looks so great for a
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standard sports room yeah i went ahead
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and got the variant rimjob yeah very
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rude job
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yeah it's only six of them well okay
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you're absolutely right that among among
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nouveau reach and Bend probably among
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all reach there is there is a price
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consciousness
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okay yeah the wrong reasons but but for
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me like my goal is to it would be nice
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to be the and I think this is the
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aspiration to live more or less as I do
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now but to be able to have the luxury to
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be unconscious of money like i do not
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want a Maserati and conscious or
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unworried unconscious I did you know you
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don't have to think about it in the
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daily sort of like I need to go to New
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ticket and to not sit and have to go
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well let's see there's an aisle seat
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next to the exit row and maybe I can you
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know maybe i can get like the upgrade
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like to just say i'm flying to New York
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tomorrow and i'm buying a ticket and I'm
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yes and and you know to live to live
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with the sort of a base amount of
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comfort and be and be like have the
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luxury of not pinching ever go um and
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you know and honestly like I think the
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dream i think i think that is in anybody
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i think could agree it would be nice to
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not have to check prices on things
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yeah you know I mean of setting aside
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that somebody tries to slip into seven
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thousand dollars steak but in an
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ordinary day-to-day stuff it would be
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kind of nice
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do you know pick up the tab without
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having to look at it
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yeah i think i was never do but this is
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the problem is you get when you get the
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what you do is you say eat what you do
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is you don't say I can go to the
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supermarket now and buy whatever I want
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to not have to worry you say I don't
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have to go to the supermarket anymore
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i'm going to send somebody for me
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you're paying a different level you're
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paying you're not just paying for the
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groceries you're paying for someone he
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and you're opening the door to where I
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was hoping to walk which is you know
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was hoping to walk which is you know
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and to paraphrase are our late friend
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Leslie Hart fault i hate buying presents
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for my presence right when i get a phone
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the last thing we have to do is go buy a
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bunch of stuff for the phone right and
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this is this is the entourage problem
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because it is i miss the poor kid point
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of view from me but I think it's such a
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fairly small number of steps from give
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me the second cheapest everything right
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to give me the third most expensive
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everything
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well yeah but I think the thing is i
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mean i always feel like I've had a
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fairly low threshold for celebration in
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my life like I can make anything into a
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special event if I feel like it i love
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Jeff why should get this nicer one
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because today I murder or whatever but
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like in the case of what you're
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describing I think it makes a lot of
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here's the thing in my experience in
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this way a struggle so much with the
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travel stuff with you know work stuff
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because a flight flight across the
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United States cost seven hundred dollars
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round trip
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yeah now if i want to i mean i find out
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until the last minute on the radio check
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out i might be able to get an extra
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nanometer no knee room for sixty dollars
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each way or eighty dollars each way if
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you're a gold member
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no big deal right there i'll pay that
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but now let's be honest that's like
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another sixteen percent on top of what I
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just spent not a huge deal i don't know
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the last time you about business class
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if business classes available that's
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going to be a two-thousand-dollar flight
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if its first class that might be a three
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or four thousand dollars and so now
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you're back to know what can I afford ok
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let's just do business class but
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remember your fancy now so you got an
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assistant so your assistant gonna sit in
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coach will know you want them taking
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education and shine your nails and shit
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like that you know what about the car
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will now you gotta have it you know
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collagen is like I maybe this is just
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like this the limitations of my mind but
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that's why the hundred million dollar
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question is so interesting to me because
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i don't think people iterate they don't
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do enough iterations of the future where
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you go one iteration of the future i pay
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off on my family's debt super nice
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ok next iteration the future no family
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knows you have tons of money and you
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have less now
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ok ok i will have the systems that this
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is where it gets this is where it's such
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a brain teaser for people because i pad
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I just I just pose this question to a
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lady friend of mine the other day and
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she said well made a hundred million
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dollars it's like
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you're not really set for life I mean
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you could blow through that pretty fast
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did not set for your life and I was like
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say what know exactly tell me how a
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hundred million dollars is not set for
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life and she was like well I mean you
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know he's just a little bit here a
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little bit there and I'm like a little
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bit here a little bit there a hundred
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million dollars that's a million dollars
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a year for a hundred years 2 billion
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dollars a year for 50 years and she's
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like well yeah exactly 2 million dollars
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a year like I would have no trouble
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spending 2 billion dollars a year and I
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was like oh look at this way I'm gonna
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I'm gonna find totally pulling this out
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of my ass but this is my postulation I
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don't say it but think about whether
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it's your that later who ever think
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about the largest amount of money that
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you've ever had in a liquid form like
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you could spend this money
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yep and let's say that whatever $50,000
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let's say that some happen your family
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so we passed away
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you gotta know to two hundred thousand
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dollars whatever it is that you would
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rush to go do stuff with to like a but i
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think if you give somebody more i'm
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making this up if you give somebody
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let's call that they're there
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jee le their greatest liquidity event
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you give people agree that the GL 'if
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you give them three times the previous
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largest liquidity event
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yeah it might as well be a zillion
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dollars I don't think for a minute and
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i'll just be for myself in time for
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myself with money like if it's more than
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a certain amount you know if you have to
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somebody else to do something tomorrow
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morning at 8am I'd say no come on I'm
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busy something to do something some
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morning at 8am five years from now I'll
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probably say yes it's exactly the same
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amount of time it's just--that's million
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years away of course i can do that and
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in that same way a lot of folks so they
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get three times there i was a jammy dle
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Julie yeah well I think something like
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high school test 11 extended weekend in
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Las Vegas not spent well yeah you could
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drop you could you know what I'm going
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to say this i think you could drop a
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hundred thousand dollars in las vegas
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without even trying
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oh you would just did slip on a banana
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peel and it's gone eat you know it lets
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just even say
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you go to like hundred-dollar cables in
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blackjack but it can't everything starts
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moving up you know if they make copy
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room they're not gonna copy cristal we
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gotta get crystal I'm rich now
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so now you're saying this new pattern
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and it's like you know it's you're still
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that same person as i like to say
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wherever you travel the old you comes
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along in the suitcase
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well and this is this is part part of
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what I what worries me is that my
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greatest liquidity event was in 2008 i
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had a hundred and thirty thousand
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dollars because the Lord to the part for
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the point for the purpose of
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illustrating this story
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yeah and it was a combination of a TV ad
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it was all this money that i made as a
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rock musician and what did i do with it
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I didn't work for five more years like I
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did nothing with it i have spent the
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last five years not doing anything
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except drawing down after your own era
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it's yeah like that you've actually
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inherited money for its up I every day I
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go on my favorite website bring a
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trailer calm and I look at hot rod cars
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and I go who that'd be a cool car
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look at that be cool car and a great
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number of these cars are affordable to
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me you know they're fifteen thousand
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dollars for a certain kind of hot rodder
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you know $10,000 $20,000 and I've been
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looking at these cars the entire time
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when I had a veritable fortune I mean
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and I had this amount of money in the
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bank this wasn't like money that was
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promised to me i was still earning money
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this was funny and in the bank and what
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did i do I just kept living like I've
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been living which is so fucking easy
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I go to New York I go to san francisco i
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go to Portland I go to wherever I want
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to go and I stand hotels and I eat food
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but i did not increase the amount of
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a massage did you okay i did not start
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spending more money than i had ever done
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and up until that point I had been
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living on twenty thousand dollars a year
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and i continued to more or less live on
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twenty thousand dollars a year because
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you know I don't drink and I don't smoke
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and I don't you know I don't buy I think
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you can't discount gambling gambling is
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this secret shame thing I keep learning
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more and more people are gambling was
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just their undoing
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yeah I don't gamble i do not it'sit's
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wearing your sergeants in a way it's
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worse than drugs because in the sense
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that like you know if you buy the most
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expensive big old bunch of cocaine in
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the world or heroin or whatever whatever
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is expensive you know if you did all of
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that in one night you would die
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yeah or be very very ill but you could
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spend 50 times more than you've ever
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spent on gambling in one night just
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because you felt like you were hot
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yeah right oh you did you know upper
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limit to that you will and you will
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regrettably still be alive when that's
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done but I don't but you know I don't
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like it and so right so my concern is
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that if I mean that and this is why pose
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this question to everybody is that I'm
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legitimately worried that if I won a
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hundred million dollars or if I earned
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two million dollars
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this is the hundred million dollars is
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like if I $109 i would not keep living
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on twenty thousand dollars a year i
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would definitely like to up my game a
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little bit but if I made two million
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dollars if something for some reason I i
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made a good record or i sold a book you
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know making one of those two million
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dollar books or you know was it for
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whatever reason became an entertainment
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property such that iron 2 million
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dollars
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I'm very worried that I would just
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put it in the bank and stop working
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forever and live on the same sort of 30
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grand a year with a nice worried but you
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know I I want to be more i want to be a
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little bit more flamboyant i mean i
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would I feel like so ghetto go get an
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expensive watch at the very light my
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analysis from afar would be if I hear
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what you're really saying is that you're
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not making as much stuff as you'd like
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right now and if you had a hundred
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million dollars that's really all the
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reason you need to not make another
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thing again and that's the last thing in
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the world you need right now right
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my classes that mean yes yes but i
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cannot but i cannot say to myself you're
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bored poverty is a blessing and you know
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you're gonna you need to you need to get
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back to the place where you do look at
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the prices on menus but not not from the
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perspective of a 24-year old living in
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your artist garrett but from the
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perspective of a 45 year old who is
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feeling like tighten his belt that is
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what you need because that might make
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you pick up the pen and go back to work
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and work is what gives life meaning and
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it's just sitting and watching the
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sitting on your front porch with a with
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a mug of coffee watching the Sun arc
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across the sky is not how you should
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mark your time on this planet and it's
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what I've been doing for the last five
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years watching the leaves change because
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I didn't have to worry
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and I didn't have that much money i mean
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i'm honestly right when it by comparison
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sure I mean there that is not really
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that much money to live for five years
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that's pretty remarkable yeah but I but
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what I spent money than I don't spend
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money on anything I spent money on
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everyone's while ago in a restaurant and
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I don't look at the menu the rest of the
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time i can meet i get i get somebody
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gives me a bag of coffee and i'm and i
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make it and I said on my porch and i
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watch the leaves change and then it's
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2010 and every once in a while ha
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judgment calls and says want to do a
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show in portland I go sure and generally
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he buys the train ticket so I didn't
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have to spend any money i can get into
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your racket that's a good racket
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well except like that's just enough
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activity to keep you thinking you're
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working
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yeah but i know i'm not i'm I know
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anything that disparagingly i suffer
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from the same thing you know i feel like
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if i can make a tiny little uh you know
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the sewer pea-sized poopy I really
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succeeded you know I create anything at
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all like yeah me get a cookie
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it goes back to I think a like the like
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a foundational idea that I had as a
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young person which was that money was
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money provided leisure and if you had
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money then you have the then you had
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leisure and so leisure is the highest
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purchase like that is the that is the
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most valuable commodity and yet i have
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leisure in abundance and I do not feel
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wait I mean to state the obvious it's
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hard to appreciate the leisure if you
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don't also have the work in other words
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a day off doesn't mean as much if you
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weren't you know he's doing something
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that you didn't want to have to do or
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for that matter that you wanted to do I
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suppose
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leisure increases in value and it only
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in comparison to work or like ultimate
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leisure with this is the you know my
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sister went on foreign exchange her
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junior year in high school she went to
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st. Lucia which is a island in the
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caribbean at the southern southern part
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of the Caribbean and she came back from
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st. Lucia from a year they're speaking
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with a kind of patois lilting Caribbean
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patois and she said you know mine and
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she's a junior in high school
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blonde blonde junior in high school
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shoes like we work to hard up your men
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got to just relax and I was like it's
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I was like okay okay rastaman check
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check it but it had a profound effect on
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her at a bit at a very impressionable
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age she went to I an island where the
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breadfruit fell from the trees and the
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culture on st. Lucia was very much like
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what are you stressing about you know
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relax and enjoy yourself and just you
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know hang out go to the beach like it
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and she brought that mentality back to
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Alaska and up until that point she been
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a real Stryver in her classes you know
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she'd been up straight excuse she skied
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is that what it was
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choose a competitive skier she was a
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commission competitive and everything
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she did and she was a real go-getter
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like a natural-born go get her and it
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wasn't clear to her what she was going
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to get but she was just chasing the
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dragon you know like so many of us in
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this culture are taught to do like you
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know get up go go go you gotta get into
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the school and get into the place and
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then get the job go go and she went on
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for exchanging chic
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back and she was like it's all baloney
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our whole rat race is baloney and all we
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have to do is just sit on the beach and
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wait for the breadfruit to fall from the
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trees but she did not live in st. Lucia
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she lived in Alaska there is no
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breadfruit it does not fall from the
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trees there and and it became a schism
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it was a have that experience in her
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life was actually actually became a
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schism in our family because there but
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you know there was no we weren't or we
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weren't able to moderate our like what
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our aspirations were anymore as people
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we don't have to be almost like three
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rejecting the family's religion it's
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like shit so outside the paradigm of how
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you can deal with people
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yeah we'll be right i mean it kind of
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disruptive to how your family's
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organized almost yeah absolutely like it
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wasn't a question of I mean neither
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Susan or I were going to go to Yale but
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that meant that we would try to get into
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a really good state school like
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university washington university
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California you know and that was a place
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where we could wear where are where we
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could maintain our pride at least but
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Susan went to the University of fuckit
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down in Durango Colorado for loozer
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college and durango and I think
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registered for classes and then withdrew
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from class a week later and took the and
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got the refund for her tuition and
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bought a season's pass at a like
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telluride or Bridger Bowl or somewhere
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and spent the whole season a smoking pot
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on the chairlifts and it was just like
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whoa whoa whoa that's not how we do
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she was like a man i'm feeling high
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right now that's Charles too far I I an
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ice ki-i-i-ng and it was like no you
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can't even listen to a joke version of
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that kind of talking and it makes me
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live it and that she know what it what
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are you doing and I and and and then I
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had to reflect on my own version of that
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which was you know a kind of like my
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version of it was from from ways manzano
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you know it was a guy I wanted a I
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wanted a turtle covered with jewels and
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I watched each another car covered with
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jewels in the Clarion layout design made
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of Allah book it looks fucked up
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it's really fucked up but you know that
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was my version of leisure as a reward or
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leisure as as highest luxury but you
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know in upon reflection i somehow
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subvert of my own ambition
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I mean what am i what would I fight for
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now what am i fighting for
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who do I care recognizes me what club do
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I want to be a member of
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who you know who what what if not for
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money or status
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why work it's too abstract to work for
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its own sake or to work and I mean and I
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know that there are people right now who
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are saying for others for others work
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for others
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I got an answer what's your answer I
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mean it's it's not an easy answer but
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you work so that you can do the next
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project that you'd like to do which will
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help you learn the next project you'd
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like to do and you can afford to take
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the the ticket to go somewhere where you
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may not make as much money but it's the
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thing that you wanted to do it's not a
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matter of just to me the leisure part of
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it i guess if any at this point my life
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like if anything i wish i had more money
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i'd love my family more secure but I'd
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also love to not have to worry about
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stuff like oh well there's not a lot of
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money in this show but we'd like you to
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do this and just be able to do that and
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then you go and meet people and you
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become more out there and things like
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that but but you know in another way it
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you can look at like anybody else has
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made anything good out of a bunch of
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money which is they learn how to find
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new opportunities and what they were
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doing not just to make more money but
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you know if you start giving money away
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for good causes you meet more people who
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need money for good causes and you
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become a manager of that stuff in some
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ways I think you know I think we run
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into trouble when we start feeling like
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we know we're on the end of some kind of
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a string
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you know it's just it you know it's just
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if you have a clear sense right now of
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what it is you want to create this would
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not be that hard because you just be
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able to say you could go out you can
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produce a movie you could go out and
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just go approach a filmmaker and say I
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want to write a soundtrack for this or
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you could say to somebody hey you know
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what I really like say go I want to do a
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commercial for you something like that
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that's the thing is is giving feeling
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it's me that the ultimate goal would be
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to feel empowered non-powered to feel
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fearless about going and at and like
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seeking out the projects that you'd like
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to do and that doesn't work out there's
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three more you could do that's that's
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freedom to me it's not about the ability
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to go out and buy four cars that look at
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the price is the ability to know that
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like each failure gets you closer to the
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next cool thing that you do but it
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presupposes that I am interested in here
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in human culture that's true you know
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that I want to be a member
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you're interested in human culture i
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mean i'm interested in it because I
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don't easy out you know you are because
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i don't have access to any better
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cultures you should work with Elon Musk
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I should and we should go find some
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smart people out in space in it that
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would be a hell of a trip this year and
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tell it yes search for intelligent life
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with an extremely narrow definition of
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what intelligences yeah so if you find
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life but somebody's got a 65 like you
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just yeah I some right there are you
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find life and it's even that's 220 IQ
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people but they're like all talking
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about sammy hagar record you know Lionel
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czech intelligence i was i was thinking
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about this the other day
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Sammy Hagar and Guy Fieri represents a
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kind of a dyin i seein human brand right
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there is a whole sub level of like the
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rate that work together day they're like
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Ferengi humans whose who are all wearing
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flame pants and high-top tennis shoes
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they wear glasses on the back of their
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epic with the glasses on the back there
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they wear baseball caps are backwards
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chad kroeger is one of these people like
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there and you can see what once you
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start to recognize them
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it's like it's like they live scenario
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where like oh that's a Hagar shit
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there's a fee area over there and it's a
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whole it's a whole class of humans that
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are living among us and they they you
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know they look like pan you know they
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have I'm sure that you look like pan
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I'm sure that guy fieri and sammy hagar
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both have very hairy tabs and maybe
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cloven hooves and they just want to
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drink wine and party and have a good
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time and I don't think they're dumb one
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of those beers can't be shaved off
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that's right they have little goat
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beards yeah they look like fucking pan
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and they are like pan men
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it and they're living all around us and
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I think I suspect that they are having a
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good time they are living on the same
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planet as me and when I when I'm around
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Guy Fieri and and sammy hagar people I
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feel like one of those tall ghost tall
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like a shadow like elders or whatever
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like in a in a grey cloak who are living
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on a gonna get a cold hall and get a
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long table
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yeah and the pan people are out like
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clicks mirroring crushed grapes on their
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naked chests and like a drum solo
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playing or whatever and now you got
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snowboard in here time I'm somewhere you
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know it's like me and fee waybill and a
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few waybill here's another one
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here's another one of the pain people it
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is a bad person fee
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yeah for sure but you know I I don't
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want to be one of the I don't want to be
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one of the graves i think george w bush
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might be a closet panties a little bit
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of a panty panty yeah I know exactly
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what you mean like we say we
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disparagingly write these men office
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douchebags and they certainly are right
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there's much more to it than that
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there's so much there's the that the
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kind of those this printed shirts with
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lots of like graphical designs on a
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button up shirt or let's say let's say a
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suit jacket that someone has stenciled a
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dragon head on one shoulder it
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yeah and then resew it was like a thrift
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store jacket they resold you for two
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hundred dollars what if ok so the
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twisted and they live
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Rowdy Roddy McDowall for the glasses and
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he's able to see the skeleton people
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right what if they were their glasses on
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the back of their neck because that's
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where their actual eyes are that lets
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them some other pan man hello
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so what I'm saying is Elon Musk and I go
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flying around
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let's say we would we accidentally like
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we went into a wormhole but it was
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accidentally wasn't a wormhole it was
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just a cloud we came around and we
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landed on earth
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banging on the detached look at
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keep an eye on earth and we thought we
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had found another place and we landed in
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cabo san lucas and we got out of the
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spaceship and were like we're on a
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desert planet and look at village and we
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walked over and it was full of sammy
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hagar this place identifies itself as
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Sammy's salty rim
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yeah and they're all they're all eating
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ribs and drinking margaritas and you can
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you sue they just all kind of like
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people who are cooking shows people who
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are on in briefly in van Halen and will
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Rachel Ray rachael ray she's a pan
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pushing her talk her voice does not
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sound like you would expect in fact now
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that I think about it every single
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member Van Halen as a pan person every
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single one every member of the Scorpions
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is a pan person this is starting to get
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fucking creepy and you better be fucking
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ready to rock and roll
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no wonder I feel like one of the grains
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I wish I could I wish I had not seen
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this I want to I want to unsee this now
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I want to get back to just wishing i had
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money because now this is the thing is
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it used to be something you get this
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vague feelings where you know there's
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something there but you don't have the
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time and inclination to put it together
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now I can do this this is a chart on the
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wall for me now
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that's right what I'm saying if Ilan
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muscular landed on this planet and and
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landed on the wrong side of cabo san
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lucas we might take off again and nuke
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the place feeling like we can't let this
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virus spread right but in fact it's it's
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like half the population of the human
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beings would you have a prime directive
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with that with Captain lon
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would you uh you know it's got a lot of
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his own opinions I'm sure I would have
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to negotiate something with him only
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have one captain of the ship John
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yeah and I mean I would have to have to
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guess that he he's not gonna be my
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scotty but it would be one of those
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things where he would you know he'd
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start off as the spot character thinking
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he was the commander of the enterprise
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and then they would realize that I was
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the that I was the board commander and
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that he would eventually become my first
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officer I think a good manager knows
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what theyre not good at yeah yeah and
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you know you can use logic you can look
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for you can look to open markets but a
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certain point you're going to need a guy
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that's willing to make the hard choices
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that does not believe in no-win
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scenarios and that's me
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kobayashi room and then 10 men 10 men
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everywhere there but they're not every
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it's like ten percent of ten percent of
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the people all you should remember you
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should go to our mall buddy one hundred
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percent of Van Halen but ten percent of
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like the pan mane vacant people
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uh-huh you think plr plr he seems like
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he's a pan
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sure yeah they are definitely rough
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actually has clothing meet you think
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Neymar name a rock musician like a
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definitely all of aerosmith can men and
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men know the Eagles look Pat men tons of
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them but pan men that have adopted some
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kind of sad like like this and you know
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who else is a is sad pad man he better
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be better sad man
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yeah haha
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I gotta go and take a situation
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