The Incomparable

184: Genius Edition


00:00:03   the incomparable number 184 Marge 2014 [TS]

00:00:11   welcome back everybody the incomparable [TS]

00:00:12   podcast I'm your host Jason smell we're [TS]

00:00:14   here to talk about not video games not [TS]

00:00:18   console games not card games probably [TS]

00:00:21   unless they also have a board we're [TS]

00:00:23   going to be talking about board games [TS]

00:00:24   that's right that's right spin your [TS]

00:00:26   little spinner get out you're hungry [TS]

00:00:27   hungry hippos that I don't even sure [TS]

00:00:29   that counts as a board game and join us [TS]

00:00:32   as we take this trip through great games [TS]

00:00:35   of perhaps our childhood perhaps today [TS]

00:00:37   games you can play on a rainy day games [TS]

00:00:41   you can play on a sunny day if you don't [TS]

00:00:42   like the Sun and want to stay inside or [TS]

00:00:44   plan on the table that's outside [TS]

00:00:46   I don't know games board games that's [TS]

00:00:48   what we're talking about if you didn't [TS]

00:00:50   get my drift [TS]

00:00:51   let me introduce the people who are [TS]

00:00:52   going to be talking about board games [TS]

00:00:53   with me Monty actually is here hi Monty [TS]

00:00:56   hi Jason board games great for games are [TS]

00:00:59   fun having kids has given me a whole new [TS]

00:01:02   appreciation for board games because we [TS]

00:01:05   played that with the kids [TS]

00:01:06   Erica and sign is also here hello hello [TS]

00:01:09   the game is on amazon and it's [TS]

00:01:12   controlled by a spinner that is a little [TS]

00:01:15   piece of plastic arrow on a piece of [TS]

00:01:17   cardboard but it's still a game is still [TS]

00:01:18   on David Laura also here hi david liu [TS]

00:01:22   i'll i'll take Paul Lynde to block in [TS]

00:01:27   the Hollywood Squares board game you can [TS]

00:01:28   do that [TS]

00:01:29   that is right there a Hollywood Squares [TS]

00:01:30   board game at the bar was I bet there [TS]

00:01:32   was you got to take it home for losing [TS]

00:01:34   the set the home game yeah that's true [TS]

00:01:36   that's true good point body you have to [TS]

00:01:39   make your own smarmy jokes of course [TS]

00:01:41   yeah your celebrities were just pieces [TS]

00:01:42   of cardboard but you know baseball [TS]

00:01:45   that's that's the real thing but anyway [TS]

00:01:47   Tony sindelar also here hi Tony [TS]

00:01:50   hi jason i'm looking forward to talking [TS]

00:01:52   exclusively about fizzbin it is a [TS]

00:01:56   thursday night so that is worth double [TS]

00:02:00   yeah neither will i have at least a half [TS]

00:02:02   business has been more of a card game [TS]

00:02:04   isn't it it is played on a board on the [TS]

00:02:07   board [TS]

00:02:07   well that's true right it is a very [TS]

00:02:08   confusing game good thanks [TS]

00:02:10   alright finer points of his been coming [TS]

00:02:12   up later on this podcast and Dan Morgan [TS]

00:02:15   who I've left to last because i do that [TS]

00:02:19   with dan hi dan I it's good to be here i [TS]

00:02:21   thought this was more of a [TS]

00:02:23   watch at night but I don't know I can [TS]

00:02:25   the night is young Gator the night is [TS]

00:02:27   young it could be we could get there as [TS]

00:02:30   always I approving this in past podcast [TS]

00:02:33   one could discuss a topic like normal [TS]

00:02:36   people and just say hey what about that [TS]

00:02:38   what about this is not interesting [TS]

00:02:41   I find it more intriguing to treat life [TS]

00:02:44   as a series of fantasy drafts that is my [TS]

00:02:48   cross to bear but uh it's my podcast so [TS]

00:02:52   Monty Ashley what would you like to pick [TS]

00:02:55   with the first pick in the board game [TS]

00:02:57   draft i'm going to go with the game that [TS]

00:03:01   i have studied trivial pursuit [TS]

00:03:05   oh man that's on my list specific [TS]

00:03:09   bringing those reactions didn't happen [TS]

00:03:10   if it's not a giraffe [TS]

00:03:13   that's classic ponte a plastic good [TS]

00:03:18   specifically the original genus edition [TS]

00:03:20   edition not a genius additional Gina [TS]

00:03:23   think it's the genius addition you are [TS]

00:03:25   perhaps a genus but you're not a genius [TS]

00:03:29   as far as i can tell i once spent an [TS]

00:03:31   entire summer just reading trivial [TS]

00:03:33   pursuit cards that's that's that's not a [TS]

00:03:38   game Monty well no homework how I did DD [TS]

00:03:42   when I was a kid that's a cry for help [TS]

00:03:44   its preparation for a game so now if i [TS]

00:03:47   play the original genus addition there [TS]

00:03:50   are times when I know the other [TS]

00:03:52   questions on the card if I hear one [TS]

00:03:55   question and if anyone out there is [TS]

00:03:57   actually thinking of playing this [TS]

00:03:58   version i can give you two tips if it's [TS]

00:04:02   a sports question and you don't know the [TS]

00:04:04   answer [TS]

00:04:05   it's probably lawn tennis and it's not [TS]

00:04:08   it's Sonja Henie as a Canadian game and [TS]

00:04:12   they had not squeezed all the Canadian [TS]

00:04:14   this out of it yet for the first edition [TS]

00:04:15   so go with lawn tennis or Sonja Henie [TS]

00:04:17   and you will be set [TS]

00:04:18   that's sports and leisure yes I had a [TS]

00:04:21   friend who in college my friend and I [TS]

00:04:24   would just challenge regularly challenge [TS]

00:04:26   the rest of the entire dorm floor too [TS]

00:04:28   trivial pursuit and we never lost so [TS]

00:04:31   those good times people stop playing me [TS]

00:04:33   after I started playing for money [TS]

00:04:35   they're all cowards that happened yeah [TS]

00:04:37   that that I had a similar experience [TS]

00:04:39   with Star Wars developers you where [TS]

00:04:41   people stop playing with me after I [TS]

00:04:43   wanted two turns [TS]

00:04:44   well oh yeah I actually own eye on 10 [TS]

00:04:48   different versions of trivial pursuit [TS]

00:04:49   and actually when I moved in with my [TS]

00:04:51   spouse will be 12 nice Canadian see so [TS]

00:04:55   they're back to the roots of Tremont [TS]

00:04:57   yeah because i have i have the american [TS]

00:04:59   version of genius one and he has the [TS]

00:05:01   canadian version of this one which [TS]

00:05:03   actually has even more Canadian [TS]

00:05:04   questions in it than the US version [TS]

00:05:06   there's that much trivia about Canada [TS]

00:05:09   you wouldn't think so which is what it's [TS]

00:05:12   all about sctv hockey [TS]

00:05:15   it's like it's another country or [TS]

00:05:16   something yes stuff like that i wrote [TS]

00:05:18   the genius of that genus of Trivial [TS]

00:05:21   Pursuit is that is combining it is [TS]

00:05:25   making a board game because you could do [TS]

00:05:27   a trivia you know book or something but [TS]

00:05:31   by making it the brightly colored [TS]

00:05:33   circles with the little pieces of pie [TS]

00:05:34   that you get when you when you when you [TS]

00:05:36   answer a question right and and having [TS]

00:05:38   that board element [TS]

00:05:40   I is for people who were not who do not [TS]

00:05:42   live through I mean the eighties it was [TS]

00:05:45   just a revolution when this thing came [TS]

00:05:46   out it was just everybody had this game [TS]

00:05:49   it was the game to have I feel like we [TS]

00:05:51   should do a podcast where we played [TS]

00:05:53   genus one just because of how [TS]

00:05:55   hilariously bad and out-of-date [TS]

00:05:57   out-of-date the answer so yeah my god [TS]

00:06:00   don't ever used to go to a brunch place [TS]

00:06:02   where they have trivial pursuit cards [TS]

00:06:04   and like the thing that we probably [TS]

00:06:05   should have had like salt and pepper [TS]

00:06:06   packets or something like that and they [TS]

00:06:08   were clearly all from the eighties so [TS]

00:06:10   there was that added dimension of [TS]

00:06:11   trivial pursuit but trying to guess what [TS]

00:06:14   you know what the answer to that would [TS]

00:06:16   have been around 90 countries still [TS]

00:06:19   exist at that point you know yeah sorry [TS]

00:06:22   the answer is East Germany Yugoslavia my [TS]

00:06:26   roommates and I used to trivial pursuit [TS]

00:06:29   wasn't interesting enough so since i had [TS]

00:06:31   so many versions we would add another [TS]

00:06:32   dimension so you'd go around the table [TS]

00:06:34   you land on some color and then you [TS]

00:06:37   would roll a die to see which version of [TS]

00:06:39   the game you would get a question from [TS]

00:06:40   love that it was so fun and yeah every [TS]

00:06:44   time you get genus one you'd be like oh [TS]

00:06:46   man now I have to take extra hard it was [TS]

00:06:48   the answer in 1987 yep or you could get [TS]

00:06:51   it let end up on like the DVD [TS]

00:06:53   pop-culture version which was just like [TS]

00:06:55   the answers usually Britney Spears they [TS]

00:06:57   got takeout so much worse and worse as [TS]

00:06:59   they went along to our terminal at was [TS]

00:07:01   like genius for might have been like [TS]

00:07:02   right on the edge of like the last one [TS]

00:07:05   that wasn't just like trashy terrible [TS]

00:07:08   knowledge and then they'll change all [TS]

00:07:09   the categories and got dumb it was dumb [TS]

00:07:12   yeah and then for some reason after five [TS]

00:07:14   they stopped even being genus just six [TS]

00:07:16   is version 6 spurt genus 12345 version 6 [TS]

00:07:21   y trivia anybody used to be i I'd like [TS]

00:07:24   to announce by the way our brand new [TS]

00:07:25   podcast that we're starting here that we [TS]

00:07:27   ever we were just going to play Trivial [TS]

00:07:29   Pursuit on the internet but I am so into [TS]

00:07:31   that [TS]

00:07:32   listen Jason have you like it I don't [TS]

00:07:34   like you joke about things I used to [TS]

00:07:36   have a book about trivial pursuit and it [TS]

00:07:38   could include strategy tips when whoa [TS]

00:07:41   know a lot of things [TS]

00:07:43   yeah well no you have to understand that [TS]

00:07:45   being in one of the squares between the [TS]

00:07:48   two roll again spaces is better than [TS]

00:07:50   being in the in the spot between the [TS]

00:07:52   role again and the wedge spot because if [TS]

00:07:56   you're between the two roll again that [TS]

00:07:57   anything you alway they give you a role [TS]

00:07:59   again or a wedge spot [TS]

00:08:01   whereas if you're in a spot between the [TS]

00:08:03   rolling in the wet spot to will only get [TS]

00:08:06   you to a regular question [TS]

00:08:08   incidentally trailed pursuit falls in [TS]

00:08:09   the same category as monopoly with games [TS]

00:08:12   that when you play them with like your [TS]

00:08:13   parents they eventually like give up and [TS]

00:08:16   let you win because it just goes on for [TS]

00:08:17   hours otherwise unless you're playing [TS]

00:08:20   with my dad who wins almost immediately [TS]

00:08:22   every time I haven't played with your [TS]

00:08:23   dad but I you know I think I see what my [TS]

00:08:26   parents were both librarians and my mom [TS]

00:08:28   was a reference librarian so I lost a [TS]

00:08:30   lot until the questions started adapting [TS]

00:08:32   more to my age I could do a whole [TS]

00:08:35   podcast about games i won't play because [TS]

00:08:37   other people in my family were too good [TS]

00:08:38   at them [TS]

00:08:39   i'm looking at you scrabble also chest [TS]

00:08:44   yeah yeah I guess you know those are [TS]

00:08:47   those are board games i wonder if [TS]

00:08:48   somebody will pick chess or checkers or [TS]

00:08:50   or another that would be outside the box [TS]

00:08:53   kind of this is what I'm saying that our [TS]

00:08:55   game box Monty that was a great pic [TS]

00:08:57   painting of the first pick in the draft [TS]

00:09:00   cheers yeah Erica it's your turn next [TS]

00:09:04   well that was going to be my first pixel [TS]

00:09:06   advance i'm going to go with my other [TS]

00:09:08   favorite game of all time and that would [TS]

00:09:11   be careers which I some of you may not [TS]

00:09:14   be familiar with the game that i grew up [TS]

00:09:16   with the version that I grew up playing [TS]

00:09:17   was actually from I think 1958 it was my [TS]

00:09:21   parents for game but there have been [TS]

00:09:22   multiple versions since then I actually [TS]

00:09:25   for a while went on a thrift shop hunt [TS]

00:09:27   and have collected a bunch of versions i [TS]

00:09:29   think i now have like three or four [TS]

00:09:30   different versions a couple from the [TS]

00:09:32   seventies the newest one is really dumb [TS]

00:09:35   as tends to happen with games but the [TS]

00:09:37   idea with careers is you go around the [TS]

00:09:40   board and there are different careers [TS]

00:09:43   that you can career paths that you can [TS]

00:09:44   choose but you have to be able to meet [TS]

00:09:46   the entrance requirements some of them [TS]

00:09:48   require a certain amount of Education [TS]

00:09:50   which you can earn some of them require [TS]

00:09:51   a certain amount of money which you can [TS]

00:09:53   get from landing on spaces and the thing [TS]

00:09:56   that I like the best about this game is [TS]

00:09:57   that your goal varies depending on what [TS]

00:10:00   you choose and nobody else knows what [TS]

00:10:02   your goal is for the game so the [TS]

00:10:04   beginning of the game you're trying to [TS]

00:10:05   you're trying to gain money and fame and [TS]

00:10:07   happiness and the family happiness or [TS]

00:10:09   little stars and little hearts very cute [TS]

00:10:11   so the beginning of the game this has to [TS]

00:10:13   add up to 60 so you could choose 20 of [TS]

00:10:16   each you could choose you know sixty [TS]

00:10:18   thousand dollars or 60 frames or [TS]

00:10:21   whatever and everybody chooses their own [TS]

00:10:23   and then they they write it down on this [TS]

00:10:24   little piece of paper and you you fold [TS]

00:10:26   over fold it over so the other people [TS]

00:10:28   can't see what your goal is so the whole [TS]

00:10:30   time you're playing you're the only one [TS]

00:10:32   that knows what you're what you're [TS]

00:10:34   shooting for [TS]

00:10:35   so you can win without anybody else like [TS]

00:10:37   realizing you're even getting close [TS]

00:10:39   it will be fun and I just like the idea [TS]

00:10:41   that you know i can go to space and be [TS]

00:10:43   an astronaut or in the old version one [TS]

00:10:45   of the careers is to go uranium [TS]

00:10:47   prospecting on a donkey that is that is [TS]

00:10:52   not a good career but you know it's got [TS]

00:10:55   a short appetite [TS]

00:10:56   this is john job isn't just a summer job [TS]

00:10:58   maybe but not as a career in the [TS]

00:11:01   seventies i believe they replace that [TS]

00:11:03   with ecology me original version the [TS]

00:11:08   original version you could go to see [TS]

00:11:10   that was one of the best places to earn [TS]

00:11:12   happiness because you know there was [TS]

00:11:13   out of of beautiful things if you're a [TS]

00:11:15   sailor but then that went to later be [TS]

00:11:17   starvation right i think it may be [TS]

00:11:20   became teaching or something like that [TS]

00:11:22   later I it was just a lot of interesting [TS]

00:11:25   changes which i didn't approve of [TS]

00:11:26   because I grew up you know uranium [TS]

00:11:28   prospecting where you could make twenty [TS]

00:11:30   thousand dollars on one space if you [TS]

00:11:31   landed right and their cards that were [TS]

00:11:33   called opportunity knocks cards so that [TS]

00:11:35   was the first way I'd ever heard that [TS]

00:11:37   phrase opportunity knocks I thought it [TS]

00:11:39   was from the game careers for Allah [TS]

00:11:41   nope wow I've never heard of that game i [TS]

00:11:44   imagine one of those opportunity knocks [TS]

00:11:46   card says you win ten thousand dollars [TS]

00:11:48   unless your new uranium prospector which [TS]

00:11:50   case I'm cancer and let's go to the [TS]

00:11:52   hospital instead there's a reason they [TS]

00:11:55   took that one off [TS]

00:11:56   I I think that was one in the stack of [TS]

00:11:58   games that they had it like one of the [TS]

00:11:59   camp's i went to or something which [TS]

00:12:01   means it was probably like missing [TS]

00:12:02   pieces and stuff like that but i have I [TS]

00:12:04   do have some sort of memory of playing [TS]

00:12:06   this game is it as a child if you get [TS]

00:12:08   the thrift shop pick it up because it's [TS]

00:12:10   just fun and I can always sell itself to [TS]

00:12:13   you because clearly you're in ya need of [TS]

00:12:14   more edition [TS]

00:12:15   yep yep absolutely i will take it off [TS]

00:12:17   your hands I swear [TS]

00:12:18   well with those two pics i feel like [TS]

00:12:20   we're I feel like we have surround [TS]

00:12:21   ourselves with ringers that Erica and [TS]

00:12:23   Monty are going to destroy us with their [TS]

00:12:25   incredible board game knowledge i used [TS]

00:12:27   to play careers every year with my [TS]

00:12:29   cousin at a Christmas family reunion we [TS]

00:12:32   have so I think of careers finally [TS]

00:12:35   because it reminds me of Christmas and [TS]

00:12:37   family and I must have played 50 games [TS]

00:12:40   with my cousin Cindy over the course of [TS]

00:12:42   four years before we got tired of the [TS]

00:12:44   game because I want every single one of [TS]

00:12:46   them [TS]

00:12:46   wow I stand be nice to play so much that [TS]

00:12:48   i still remember now there's a there's a [TS]

00:12:50   space called park bench which was a bad [TS]

00:12:53   space because that meant that you were [TS]

00:12:54   out of a job in have enough money to get [TS]

00:12:56   up the park effects and you had to roll [TS]

00:12:59   7-eleven or doubles to get off the park [TS]

00:13:01   bench just like in real life [TS]

00:13:05   that's a great pic that's a great yeah [TS]

00:13:07   just like in real life that's how [TS]

00:13:08   careers work how many stars you have Dan [TS]

00:13:10   a lot of dice let's put it that way [TS]

00:13:13   fair enough that's that's great i don't [TS]

00:13:15   think i've ever heard of that game [TS]

00:13:16   before so that's totally blown me away [TS]

00:13:18   David lure it's your turn [TS]

00:13:22   each is no basket [TS]

00:13:26   I'll get it skip never words thank you [TS]

00:13:29   for your pic even beyond help go ahead [TS]

00:13:32   go ahead [TS]

00:13:33   that's that's right evil laughter the [TS]

00:13:34   board game know since I think the rest [TS]

00:13:38   of my list is pretty safe i'm gonna go [TS]

00:13:40   with the big name right off the bat and [TS]

00:13:41   go for monopoly up because I don't know [TS]

00:13:46   anyone who doesn't know it doesn't play [TS]

00:13:48   it hasn't played it hasn't seen it [TS]

00:13:50   doesn't have one of you know how many [TS]

00:13:51   thousand variations of it they have now [TS]

00:13:54   but I grew up with one of the it wasn't [TS]

00:13:59   the original set but was like the 1937 [TS]

00:14:02   edition so it was sort of like you know [TS]

00:14:04   you have to be very careful taking it [TS]

00:14:06   out and so you know I grew up loving the [TS]

00:14:09   game and my best friend in high school [TS]

00:14:13   who end up as the best man at my wedding [TS]

00:14:15   he and I have had a long tradition this [TS]

00:14:18   is going on something like 30 years now [TS]

00:14:20   we're whenever we get together if we [TS]

00:14:22   have the time we will play what we call [TS]

00:14:24   killer monopoly which involves staying [TS]

00:14:26   up all night playing all night till Don [TS]

00:14:30   sometimes through to the next day I [TS]

00:14:33   think our longest game ran four days [TS]

00:14:35   straight [TS]

00:14:37   that was back when he was in college so [TS]

00:14:38   it's called Hitler monopoly because at [TS]

00:14:40   the end you want to murder the person [TS]

00:14:42   right yeah you just keep going to [TS]

00:14:43   someone dies [TS]

00:14:44   pretty much yeah i know you you do start [TS]

00:14:46   to lose all sense of you know human [TS]

00:14:49   courtesy by about the 12-hour and so do [TS]

00:14:52   action off properties that you land on [TS]

00:14:54   you just have to buy them out writer or [TS]

00:14:56   passing by [TS]

00:14:57   oh yeah it is the auctioning and trading [TS]

00:15:00   and mortgaging and you know we we use [TS]

00:15:03   all the variation rules the free parking [TS]

00:15:07   what is your policy on free lands on [TS]

00:15:10   your spaces in exchange for not being [TS]

00:15:12   able to pay rent [TS]

00:15:13   I you know I don't think we ever worried [TS]

00:15:16   about that is stealing money from the [TS]

00:15:18   bank cheating or only cheating if you [TS]

00:15:20   get caught it was no we never did that [TS]

00:15:22   well I should say I never did that [TS]

00:15:25   that's why talk it haha but yeah I mean [TS]

00:15:33   the thing is kind of interesting just [TS]

00:15:34   protocol flooring for yeah okay I got it [TS]

00:15:37   with that just really sociological point [TS]

00:15:40   of view or an economic point of view I [TS]

00:15:42   don't know it was really weird how you [TS]

00:15:44   know every few hours the balance would [TS]

00:15:46   shift you know and the longer you played [TS]

00:15:48   you know it would seem like one person [TS]

00:15:50   was gonna win and just dominate and all [TS]

00:15:52   of a sudden something would happen it [TS]

00:15:54   would start shifting back and you know [TS]

00:15:55   of course you both had to have hotels on [TS]

00:15:57   stuff for that to happen if one person [TS]

00:16:00   had everything that was it but but and [TS]

00:16:03   this and this is a theory that I got [TS]

00:16:05   from my mother and its held true every [TS]

00:16:07   since I don't worry about boardwalk and [TS]

00:16:10   Park Place i always buy the yellow [TS]

00:16:12   properties everybody lands on the yellow [TS]

00:16:16   I was always felt that way about the [TS]

00:16:17   greens but either way [TS]

00:16:19   yes well that that whole quarter is just [TS]

00:16:21   beautiful [TS]

00:16:22   so you have the greens are my second [TS]

00:16:24   choice so it's the blue the yellows and [TS]

00:16:26   the girl Marvin gardens kind of guys [TS]

00:16:27   what you're saying that's right that's [TS]

00:16:29   right and there's there's a wonderful [TS]

00:16:32   book of short nonfiction pieces by john [TS]

00:16:36   mcphee where one of them is the history [TS]

00:16:40   of the board game Monopoly where he [TS]

00:16:42   contrasts it with the history of [TS]

00:16:45   Atlantic City and you know any goes and [TS]

00:16:47   visits the real Ventnor Avenue and [TS]

00:16:49   around New York you know all that and [TS]

00:16:52   then balances it against the history of [TS]

00:16:54   the game and its really interesting well [TS]

00:16:56   worth reading is I think the book is [TS]

00:16:58   called table of contents [TS]

00:17:00   ok monopoly people i was the car what [TS]

00:17:03   was your let's go around what's your [TS]

00:17:05   what's your what's your choice David top [TS]

00:17:08   hat because because fred astaire Tony I [TS]

00:17:11   think I was the car always do i did not [TS]

00:17:12   i do not i don't i don't like the [TS]

00:17:14   message that monopoly city said i was [TS]

00:17:16   reading it be's oh so but there's a lot [TS]

00:17:19   more playing with sticks and put it [TS]

00:17:21   aside explained in that we've got all [TS]

00:17:23   these are dangerous i just i think they [TS]

00:17:25   were waiting for the people's republic [TS]

00:17:26   of monopoly to be released and that [TS]

00:17:28   never never made it print everything [TS]

00:17:31   else Bradley everybody gets the same [TS]

00:17:32   amount of money and then the and the [TS]

00:17:34   game is so that's where all the [TS]

00:17:35   properties are handed out the [TS]

00:17:37   message of monopolies that real estate [TS]

00:17:38   developers just sometimes go to jail for [TS]

00:17:41   no reason but you're gonna spend some [TS]

00:17:44   time just that's just a happy to that's [TS]

00:17:47   accurate go directly to jail by the way [TS]

00:17:51   my babysitter growing up and I always [TS]

00:17:53   played Monopoly and she would do the [TS]

00:17:57   luxury taxes $75 so it was 50 20 m5 and [TS]

00:18:01   I could still remember that she would [TS]

00:18:03   say it every time 50 20 and 25 and then [TS]

00:18:05   the other things when she would land on [TS]

00:18:07   the the jail space she would shoot she [TS]

00:18:12   would say not when she was sent to jail [TS]

00:18:13   when she will and especially change just [TS]

00:18:15   visiting yeah I I scared the kids the [TS]

00:18:21   first couple of times we played monopoly [TS]

00:18:23   because I would just count out the money [TS]

00:18:25   without even thinking with that looking [TS]

00:18:27   huh [TS]

00:18:27   and you know how many bills beach no [TS]

00:18:29   just pump obviously know you do that and [TS]

00:18:33   you might have a problem goods i'm a [TS]

00:18:35   ringer I damn what was your token i [TS]

00:18:38   think i also went for the car [TS]

00:18:42   yeah I think that was the car Monty i [TS]

00:18:44   really like the car because I felt that [TS]

00:18:46   it went best with free parking but i [TS]

00:18:49   have evolved into a shoe man i think [TS]

00:18:51   that's a pretty shoe man nice [TS]

00:18:53   interesting [TS]

00:18:54   Erica what about you I never liked the [TS]

00:18:56   car I i would change up i was usually [TS]

00:18:58   either both in both the hat or the iron [TS]

00:19:01   womanly things no one wishes [TS]

00:19:04   yes so much careers [TS]

00:19:07   yeah screw you guys I'm gonna return [TS]

00:19:11   probably my my son that takes the car so [TS]

00:19:16   i'm left with whatever the hell is left [TS]

00:19:18   after he takes the car that got a dog [TS]

00:19:20   that's not even out yet you know that [TS]

00:19:22   our scottie dog was myspace you can put [TS]

00:19:24   them up we can stand up your behavior [TS]

00:19:26   fell over so easily [TS]

00:19:27   yeah but you could step but you could [TS]

00:19:29   stand up it was little with yeah there's [TS]

00:19:32   a battleship you can intimidate your [TS]

00:19:34   opponent's little how many cans that [TS]

00:19:36   iron got true i think we had lost the [TS]

00:19:38   battleship because we never had that I [TS]

00:19:40   feel like it came later or something [TS]

00:19:42   because i feel like i had one but it [TS]

00:19:43   like wasn't originally in my I don't [TS]

00:19:45   know yeah i think it may have been one [TS]

00:19:47   that either was there and gone or just [TS]

00:19:49   came later because I maybe was [TS]

00:19:51   and in our set Wow monopoly i'm shocked [TS]

00:19:54   when third honestly I die that's it's a [TS]

00:19:57   classic that's a good one [TS]

00:19:59   thank you David well played anytime hey [TS]

00:20:01   now go directly to jail its major roll [TS]

00:20:06   doubles to get out we'll come back to [TS]

00:20:08   you are they are they 20-sided doubles [TS]

00:20:10   yes alright i'd like to tell you about [TS]

00:20:13   one of our sponsors [TS]

00:20:15   it's warby parker the rebels of quality [TS]

00:20:19   I where do you wear glasses [TS]

00:20:21   whether you're somebody who has a little [TS]

00:20:23   vision problem i do I wear glasses all [TS]

00:20:26   the time I have since I was 18 years old [TS]

00:20:28   and you could also be somebody who just [TS]

00:20:31   doesn't like the Sun to shine straight [TS]

00:20:33   into your eyes and you wear sunglasses [TS]

00:20:34   what warby parker makes great [TS]

00:20:37   high-quality vintage-inspired eyewear [TS]

00:20:41   and that isn't the whole story style is [TS]

00:20:44   just the beginning with warby parker is [TS]

00:20:46   the big story is warby parker why they [TS]

00:20:48   rebels because they believe glasses [TS]

00:20:50   should not be super expensive glasses [TS]

00:20:53   shouldn't cost as much as an iphone [TS]

00:20:55   warby parkers prescription glasses [TS]

00:20:56   started $95 and that includes the [TS]

00:21:00   prescription lenses and they're super [TS]

00:21:02   snazzy titanium collection starts at [TS]

00:21:05   only 145 all glasses include [TS]

00:21:08   anti-reflective and anti-glare coating [TS]

00:21:10   no bonus charges for that either it's [TS]

00:21:13   included in the cost now or Parker makes [TS]

00:21:17   buying glasses easy this is the thing [TS]

00:21:19   that really sets them apart their home [TS]

00:21:21   try-on program shopping on the internet [TS]

00:21:23   you look at something like that gonna [TS]

00:21:25   fit me it's gonna be good is going to be [TS]

00:21:26   bad or be Parker will send you up to [TS]

00:21:29   five pairs of frames shipped directly to [TS]

00:21:32   you you can keep them for up to five [TS]

00:21:34   days and then there's a prepaid shipping [TS]

00:21:36   label to ship them back when you're done [TS]

00:21:38   your friends your family or colleagues [TS]

00:21:39   can look at these different frames as [TS]

00:21:41   you try them on [TS]

00:21:42   tell you all that one looks good and [TS]

00:21:44   that looks a little weird you shouldn't [TS]

00:21:45   buy that one [TS]

00:21:46   so when you finally choose which one is [TS]

00:21:48   right for you you'll know you'll have [TS]

00:21:49   great certainty that this is the pair of [TS]

00:21:51   glasses for you and when you place an [TS]

00:21:53   order for prescription glasses they get [TS]

00:21:55   started on them right away they'll be in [TS]

00:21:57   your hands within 10 business days and [TS]

00:21:59   i'm going to tell you it's usually even [TS]

00:22:00   faster than that 10 business days [TS]

00:22:02   quick turnaround even if you went to [TS]

00:22:04   your [TS]

00:22:04   local eye doctor and had their their [TS]

00:22:07   local boutique order something you're [TS]

00:22:08   gonna have to wait for that to your [TS]

00:22:10   going to wait for the order from anybody [TS]

00:22:11   warby parker is not going to make you [TS]

00:22:13   wait a long time 10 business days and [TS]

00:22:15   you'll have your glasses and for every [TS]

00:22:17   pair of glasses sold warby parker [TS]

00:22:19   distributes a pair of glasses to [TS]

00:22:20   somebody in need because they believe [TS]

00:22:21   everybody should have access to eyewear [TS]

00:22:24   and be able to see which is yet another [TS]

00:22:26   really cool thing about warby parker so [TS]

00:22:28   if you are the sunglass type person [TS]

00:22:32   non-prescription polarized sunglasses [TS]

00:22:34   $95 that's it there's that price again [TS]

00:22:37   and 145 for the titanium collection and [TS]

00:22:40   if you get prescription sunglasses [TS]

00:22:42   though start at one fifty-one 95 for the [TS]

00:22:45   titanium collection so for Parker [TS]

00:22:48   they're rebels they think glasses should [TS]

00:22:51   be affordable [TS]

00:22:53   what is wrong with these people are [TS]

00:22:54   crazy people anyway if you're like me [TS]

00:22:56   and you wear glasses and you want to try [TS]

00:22:57   on these warby parker frames in your [TS]

00:23:01   house [TS]

00:23:02   here's what you do you go to warby [TS]

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00:23:12   5 free home try-on frames go to warby [TS]

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00:23:17   shipping send the frames back [TS]

00:23:19   choose your favorite pair in order for [TS]

00:23:21   Parker makes the experience completely [TS]

00:23:23   risk-free and it's free shipping all [TS]

00:23:25   around so check them out and thank you [TS]

00:23:27   so much to worry Parker for sponsoring [TS]

00:23:29   me uncomfortable [TS]

00:23:30   uh Tony it is your turn hi [TS]

00:23:33   well i have a list of games they are [TS]

00:23:36   mainly games probably from the last [TS]

00:23:38   decade so I'm not too worried about [TS]

00:23:39   anybody drafting them except maybe dan [TS]

00:23:42   I've got some of those all i got i got [TS]

00:23:44   so guess what i'm going to talk about [TS]

00:23:45   them when you draft and no matter what [TS]

00:23:46   you do on syracuse road to help well la [TS]

00:23:49   so i'll just go with something that is [TS]

00:23:54   not from the last kid i will draft he [TS]

00:23:57   requests [TS]

00:23:57   does anyone else anyone for me when I [TS]

00:23:59   was your night stick love it [TS]

00:24:01   yeah I I thought about money might have [TS]

00:24:03   some types and founder of this game so [TS]

00:24:05   he requests if I love it's going to [TS]

00:24:07   check from 1980 night I knew it was at [TS]

00:24:09   least 10 years older than any other game [TS]

00:24:11   on my list [TS]

00:24:11   um he request was basically a Dungeons [TS]

00:24:14   and Dragons ask board game and in fact I [TS]

00:24:17   have a [TS]

00:24:18   a little bit of trouble separating in my [TS]

00:24:20   head how different it was from dnd you [TS]

00:24:22   didn't get to roll a d20 i know that but [TS]

00:24:24   your characters were they didn't really [TS]

00:24:26   have names they would be like dwarf one [TS]

00:24:29   wizard and barbarian and they moved [TS]

00:24:32   around kind of a preset up board that a [TS]

00:24:35   basically a dungeon master would build [TS]

00:24:37   that had traps and bad guys on it and I [TS]

00:24:39   think everything was done with little [TS]

00:24:40   custom v6 which I little dice with a [TS]

00:24:43   shield and skulls on them but it was [TS]

00:24:46   basically dnd light repackaged into you [TS]

00:24:49   know board game format that you could [TS]

00:24:50   play in the in the early nineties and I [TS]

00:24:53   played in a bunch you could even if you [TS]

00:24:54   were that kind of kid make your own [TS]

00:24:56   adventures like remix in like the maps [TS]

00:24:58   and the the traps and that various cards [TS]

00:25:00   they gave you and that was a lot of fun [TS]

00:25:03   and that was probably something that you [TS]

00:25:04   know paint a path for a later interest [TS]

00:25:06   in roleplay games and dungeons and [TS]

00:25:09   dragons and things like that money it [TS]

00:25:10   sounds like you would you have memories [TS]

00:25:12   of here with us some I was more of a [TS]

00:25:15   talisman guy myself [TS]

00:25:17   smooth yeah and I had a bad experience [TS]

00:25:19   with talisman up because i don't have [TS]

00:25:21   precipitated recently if we tried to [TS]

00:25:23   play it recently [TS]

00:25:24   no you can't do that no you have to do [TS]

00:25:25   it when you're a kid you have eight [TS]

00:25:27   hours did not age well turns out it does [TS]

00:25:29   it turns out it's it's like watching the [TS]

00:25:31   Transformers cartoons now i disagree i [TS]

00:25:33   still love i still have television i [TS]

00:25:35   have played it within the past couple [TS]

00:25:36   years and I haven't finished it but I [TS]

00:25:39   may have made a mistake we played it [TS]

00:25:41   with an enthusiastic friend who [TS]

00:25:43   sometimes makes the mistake of when [TS]

00:25:44   there's a game with a bunch of [TS]

00:25:45   expansions for it he will instantly oh [TS]

00:25:47   yeah the first game with all of the [TS]

00:25:49   expansions even if that was ill-advised [TS]

00:25:52   some advice for it was a bad you have to [TS]

00:25:54   do with talisman all the expansions [TS]

00:25:55   except college and how haha dragon last [TS]

00:25:58   one anyway played your request i have [TS]

00:26:01   some fun memories of it but not enough [TS]

00:26:03   to go into anecdotal lede so yeah and i [TS]

00:26:06   think you know he requests had that kind [TS]

00:26:07   of because you have this kind of the [TS]

00:26:10   pre-built very simple kind of little [TS]

00:26:11   dungeons you know it will allow somebody [TS]

00:26:13   you know a younger kid for example you [TS]

00:26:15   know I think it was recommended for ages [TS]

00:26:16   10 and up [TS]

00:26:18   who wouldn't really be able to say run a [TS]

00:26:20   DD adventure is about it you know the [TS]

00:26:23   other children would not hate it kind of [TS]

00:26:25   package some kind of pattern but what if [TS]

00:26:27   we took some took some weight off that [TS]

00:26:28   kids shoulders right maybe ages 10 to 80 [TS]

00:26:31   if you're [TS]

00:26:31   b5 sorry too old to play [TS]

00:26:35   ok he requests that's good at the rate [TS]

00:26:37   we're going we're gonna get through a [TS]

00:26:38   couple rounds here but let's move on Dan [TS]

00:26:40   well I was strongly considering a game [TS]

00:26:42   invented by one of our fellow panelists [TS]

00:26:45   here Tony in the the version of risk [TS]

00:26:49   opoly in which every battle in risk is [TS]

00:26:51   it's always us settled with a game of [TS]

00:26:54   Monopoly I believe you're only allowed [TS]

00:26:56   to draft games you have actually played [TS]

00:26:58   sir I like Trivial Pursuit where you [TS]

00:27:02   have to roll the die [TS]

00:27:03   jenna pitcher set except infinitely were [TS]

00:27:06   infinitely worse is my you know that's [TS]

00:27:08   my stock-in-trade infidelity your game [TS]

00:27:12   company Tony infinitely worse games i [TS]

00:27:15   will go with an oldie which I is a clue [TS]

00:27:19   specifically the one I like the best [TS]

00:27:21   which was the master detective variant [TS]

00:27:24   which is a later version that had a [TS]

00:27:26   larger had more of everything basically [TS]

00:27:28   like more suspects more weapons more [TS]

00:27:31   more mansion and just made it a little [TS]

00:27:35   bit more fun more interesting and [TS]

00:27:37   animals you know mentioned that i played [TS]

00:27:40   clue recently over the summer with my my [TS]

00:27:44   cousin's kids who are in the 89 and like [TS]

00:27:48   6-7 range and man they have really made [TS]

00:27:51   clue suck [TS]

00:27:53   yes there is a they've made it a lot [TS]

00:27:55   easier because now it like they like you [TS]

00:27:57   like flip up cards being the gay like [TS]

00:27:59   everybody can see certain cards so like [TS]

00:28:02   you deal out by five different cards or [TS]

00:28:03   something slip those over so everybody [TS]

00:28:05   can immediately eliminate those which [TS]

00:28:07   means yes the game of Clue takes less [TS]

00:28:09   time than it used to but it also doesn't [TS]

00:28:11   really require quite as much in the way [TS]

00:28:12   of deductive reasoning and wild guessing [TS]

00:28:15   really where's the fun in that [TS]

00:28:17   but I was a fan of mystery fiction and [TS]

00:28:19   detective stuff and I really liked clue [TS]

00:28:21   i like the fact there was a little [TS]

00:28:22   envelope that you keep things in all of [TS]

00:28:23   the little pieces that have like the [TS]

00:28:25   whole dagger little rope that kind of [TS]

00:28:27   stuff and I know it's a it's not the [TS]

00:28:29   best game in the world but i have fond [TS]

00:28:31   memories of it and i enjoyed playing it [TS]

00:28:33   and that's Cluedo for our inter aren't [TS]

00:28:36   international referred that's right i [TS]

00:28:38   think is the best game 2 movie [TS]

00:28:39   adaptation though [TS]

00:28:40   here could be better than battleship [TS]

00:28:44   right [TS]

00:28:45   Oh better than chest the musical [TS]

00:28:49   Oh to follow Jason's example which piece [TS]

00:28:53   did you play in clue a professor plum as [TS]

00:28:57   a colonel mustard yeah myself I was [TS]

00:28:59   always the Rope am i doing it wrong i [TS]

00:29:03   always wanna Carly every time I was also [TS]

00:29:05   Colonel Mustard I i was also professor [TS]

00:29:08   plum I was the shoe you know these guys [TS]

00:29:11   seem like really bad detectives if they [TS]

00:29:13   can't tell the difference somebody who [TS]

00:29:14   was strangled somebody who was ya shot [TS]

00:29:17   I mean they're not they're not crime [TS]

00:29:19   scene investigator ok clue that was on [TS]

00:29:23   my list to excellent choice tan that's a [TS]

00:29:27   classic I learned I learned [TS]

00:29:29   ok here's some I same babysitter who I [TS]

00:29:31   played Monopoly with as a as a whatever [TS]

00:29:35   I was five-year-old six-year-old I [TS]

00:29:36   learned that people that uh you you [TS]

00:29:39   shouldn't cheat games from clue because [TS]

00:29:41   my babysitter went to take a phone call [TS]

00:29:43   and I looked at whodunit who and she [TS]

00:29:45   refused to play board games with me the [TS]

00:29:47   entire rest of the time that she was [TS]

00:29:49   babysitting me that time and that taught [TS]

00:29:52   that and then I never cheated a clue [TS]

00:29:54   again only monopoly know my fond [TS]

00:29:58   memories of clue and yes professor plum [TS]

00:30:01   gotta be professor plum I'm gonna I'm [TS]

00:30:03   gonna pick a more recent game because [TS]

00:30:05   blue monopoly off the board and i'm [TS]

00:30:08   going to pick a carcass on which is a [TS]

00:30:11   game this is when my family plays uh [TS]

00:30:14   it's game it's game night or it's rainy [TS]

00:30:16   day game weekend my pic when it's my [TS]

00:30:20   turn to pick is carcass on a game that [TS]

00:30:24   in which you need a table and then you [TS]

00:30:26   form your own board by drawing tiles of [TS]

00:30:30   cities and roads and rivers and fields [TS]

00:30:34   and and you put them all together and [TS]

00:30:37   drop your little little wooden guys on [TS]

00:30:40   them and collect points for having you [TS]

00:30:43   know having a road or or being in a city [TS]

00:30:46   or being in the field [TS]

00:30:47   nice it's really pretty i love that at [TS]

00:30:50   the end of it you have built a city more [TS]

00:30:52   or less i think that's kind of [TS]

00:30:54   eat that you start with nothing and you [TS]

00:30:56   end with something and strategically [TS]

00:30:58   it's actually really tricky my kids can [TS]

00:31:00   pick it up fairly easily but there is a [TS]

00:31:02   whole other level where you're where [TS]

00:31:04   you're stealing people cities or you're [TS]

00:31:06   finding a way into one of the fields [TS]

00:31:09   where you can really clean up on the [TS]

00:31:10   number of points and you know I i found [TS]

00:31:14   out about it because of the ipad game [TS]

00:31:17   that that came out from what does that [TS]

00:31:20   was coding monkeys and i can factor I [TS]

00:31:23   think collaborated on that icon factory [TS]

00:31:25   to the art and and I loved the ipad game [TS]

00:31:29   but i love the board game to that it's a [TS]

00:31:32   and some really great expansions that [TS]

00:31:34   you can roll in that that either change [TS]

00:31:37   how the game develops at the start with [TS]

00:31:39   the river expansion or does things like [TS]

00:31:41   double the do a double or nothing on [TS]

00:31:44   some of the some of the the pieces where [TS]

00:31:47   you have to complete the rotor you get [TS]

00:31:48   no credits you have to complete the city [TS]

00:31:50   or you get no credit for any of the [TS]

00:31:52   pieces that are in the city lots of fun [TS]

00:31:54   expansions too so I I'm I i love carcass [TS]

00:31:58   on and I play it whenever my family [TS]

00:32:00   allows me to [TS]

00:32:02   that's my choice good one I like making [TS]

00:32:04   a lot of you been to the city of [TS]

00:32:05   carcassonne I you know I have not but I [TS]

00:32:09   almost did I actually when we were in [TS]

00:32:11   Barcelona we almost took a day trip [TS]

00:32:12   there and I felt silly silly because the [TS]

00:32:16   number one reason to go there is because [TS]

00:32:17   i like the game so much but I almost did [TS]

00:32:19   it [TS]

00:32:19   maybe that's basically a giant version [TS]

00:32:21   of the board game yeah that's what I [TS]

00:32:23   hear either giant wooden guys standing [TS]

00:32:25   around outfield Ryan people because i [TS]

00:32:27   would like to see where their middles [TS]

00:32:28   uniting the people's its modern art [TS]

00:32:31   really [TS]

00:32:32   uh yeah I just you know it's fun and [TS]

00:32:35   it's and it's smart and every time I [TS]

00:32:36   played I i learned another little trick [TS]

00:32:38   about the strategy of it it unfolds [TS]

00:32:40   which is kinda nice too [TS]

00:32:42   let's move on Monty it's back to you I [TS]

00:32:45   played a lot of four games but i'm going [TS]

00:32:47   to pick the one that I've had the most [TS]

00:32:48   fun with playing with people whether [TS]

00:32:51   it's people who don't play games or [TS]

00:32:53   whether it's you know like style game [TS]

00:32:55   designer hardcore gamers and that's the [TS]

00:32:59   1977 home game version of family feud [TS]

00:33:04   it is incredibly fun for [TS]

00:33:07   one person to be richard Dawson and to [TS]

00:33:10   divide the group into two groups and [TS]

00:33:12   actually make people guess the answers [TS]

00:33:14   to questions like name a famous Stewart [TS]

00:33:18   and you think well that's easy but the [TS]

00:33:23   thing is it's the 1977 yes there are [TS]

00:33:26   only three people listed here and they [TS]

00:33:28   are Jimmy Stewart rod stewart and [TS]

00:33:30   stewart granger i would have said Jimmy [TS]

00:33:35   Stewart first [TS]

00:33:36   well you got one do you want to play [TS]

00:33:38   your ass right now you finally hit on a [TS]

00:33:44   game i've never played well i recommend [TS]

00:33:46   going on ebay and spending the three [TS]

00:33:48   bucks it will take but you have to [TS]

00:33:54   understand that there are right answers [TS]

00:33:56   because your core of course guessing [TS]

00:33:58   what people said and what people said [TS]

00:34:01   was completely random and insane know as [TS]

00:34:05   another example there's a question name [TS]

00:34:07   of food you want at least once a week [TS]

00:34:08   and what are the answers to that one [TS]

00:34:13   bread meat hamburger steak and then so [TS]

00:34:20   forth but there's no way of knowing that [TS]

00:34:22   hamburger and state could be on the list [TS]

00:34:24   somebody said meet so rather than [TS]

00:34:27   explain how much fun this game is I'm [TS]

00:34:29   just going to give you a couple sample [TS]

00:34:31   questions they dug out of the box just [TS]

00:34:32   now [TS]

00:34:33   ok let's do it name a foreign brand of [TS]

00:34:37   beer heineken includes answers like [TS]

00:34:40   heineken his number-one Lowenbrau [TS]

00:34:43   Lowenbrau is number two I don't think [TS]

00:34:45   anyone's going to get number three which [TS]

00:34:47   is Stroh's oh wow my goodness i remember [TS]

00:34:50   strokes but i would not have come up [TS]

00:34:52   with it also enlist something called [TS]

00:34:54   tuborg and something called genesee I [TS]

00:34:57   want Karen I at least I didn't know that [TS]

00:35:00   was from I thought screws was American [TS]

00:35:02   huh [TS]

00:35:03   apparently it was German or something at [TS]

00:35:05   what it sounds for in David the question [TS]

00:35:08   name it make car you see telephones in [TS]

00:35:11   naturally the answers are rolls-royce [TS]

00:35:14   Cadillac lincoln continental [TS]

00:35:16   mercedes-benz and Chevrolets [TS]

00:35:20   who are these people [TS]

00:35:24   well my theory is that it's just the [TS]

00:35:26   studio audience for the show so it's 90 [TS]

00:35:30   a group of 1977 tourists that would [TS]

00:35:35   explain a lot [TS]

00:35:36   throws all but by the way is an american [TS]

00:35:38   beer for stripper as Detroit Michigan [TS]

00:35:42   come on you guys Detroit is really like [TS]

00:35:45   it's very it's practically candidates [TS]

00:35:48   but yeah right [TS]

00:35:49   oh yeah its exotic so exotic so with [TS]

00:35:52   this strain of having to know the right [TS]

00:35:54   answer removed when you're faced with a [TS]

00:35:56   question like name a brand of coffee you [TS]

00:35:59   get some right away and everybody sits [TS]

00:36:01   around trying to remember holders hills [TS]

00:36:04   brothers tasters choice [TS]

00:36:06   thank thank thank you rim rim yes I am [TS]

00:36:09   feeling a solicitation room with brim [TS]

00:36:11   yeah only half a cup don't you like my [TS]

00:36:13   coffee we've yes we've secretly replaced [TS]

00:36:15   the coffee the normally service fine [TS]

00:36:19   restaurant with Folgers crystals Bob [TS]

00:36:20   never asks for a second cup at home the [TS]

00:36:23   top answer that was Maxwell House and [TS]

00:36:25   the bottom answer was a you ban you been [TS]

00:36:28   yeah oh yeah oh you can't have center [TS]

00:36:30   without you banned it's especially fun [TS]

00:36:32   to play with people who work to live in [TS]

00:36:33   1977 because they had no idea no idea [TS]

00:36:35   yet [TS]

00:36:37   yeah I got nothing out for their sorry [TS]

00:36:39   wow amazing this game is tremendously [TS]

00:36:42   enjoyable [TS]

00:36:42   alright well $19 Monty your team is [TS]

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00:38:16   incomparable Erica what's your next pick [TS]

00:38:19   oh my goodness i have choices choices i [TS]

00:38:25   think i will i will follow your lead [TS]

00:38:27   with the carcassonne tile sort of bored [TS]

00:38:30   building game and choose one of my [TS]

00:38:32   all-time favorite games to play which is [TS]

00:38:34   more recent called betrayal at house on [TS]

00:38:36   the hill was on my list which which [TS]

00:38:40   which version the original version where [TS]

00:38:44   the big thick of a stack of Virata yet [TS]

00:38:46   the back the broken one [TS]

00:38:48   the battery life and the other broken [TS]

00:38:50   underground lake that's on the Attic [TS]

00:38:52   this is not a right from Monty's former [TS]

00:38:54   employer so recently you were [TS]

00:38:57   responsible for testing this where you I [TS]

00:38:59   was not but i will say that you [TS]

00:39:01   mentioned that there's an underground [TS]

00:39:02   lake tile that's in the upper that's [TS]

00:39:05   what I setting ah because i had access [TS]

00:39:08   to some of the digital files i printed [TS]

00:39:10   out a sticker that fixed mine so i moved [TS]

00:39:14   my doubts the bottom with great power [TS]

00:39:16   comes great responsibility [TS]

00:39:18   I just remember playing a mission in [TS]

00:39:20   that game that it was like impossible [TS]

00:39:21   for us to win or something like we got [TS]

00:39:23   to like I happy through it and is that a [TS]

00:39:26   lot yeah that was maybe this cannot be [TS]

00:39:27   done with it [TS]

00:39:28   yeah i was in a boardgame Club in [TS]

00:39:30   college when that was popular and i [TS]

00:39:32   remember playing it like like every week [TS]

00:39:34   for like a month and then a number of [TS]

00:39:36   times where we either where we would [TS]

00:39:38   like we would be playing for three hours [TS]

00:39:40   and realize that basically the end is [TS]

00:39:43   inevitable [TS]

00:39:44   we are either going to win or lose [TS]

00:39:46   and we just need to roll dice for [TS]

00:39:47   another hour came up way too often so [TS]

00:39:50   Erica explain explain this game to me [TS]

00:39:52   we've got discovered that there may have [TS]

00:39:53   been some flaws [TS]

00:39:54   oh yeah it was certainly I i'm not [TS]

00:39:57   looking at it through any kind of [TS]

00:39:58   rose-colored glasses i just i i really [TS]

00:40:01   enjoyed the the way the game is played [TS]

00:40:03   because very much like carcassonne you [TS]

00:40:05   build the the board which is a house as [TS]

00:40:08   you go [TS]

00:40:09   the idea is you are a bunch of random [TS]

00:40:12   people that for some reason have decided [TS]

00:40:13   to spend the night and investigating [TS]

00:40:16   this this haunted house and on each turn [TS]

00:40:18   I like there's a tiny bit of sort of a [TS]

00:40:20   role-playing elements to it because each [TS]

00:40:22   character has a certain number of the [TS]

00:40:25   speed you know that they can go certain [TS]

00:40:27   number spaces in a turn and there are [TS]

00:40:28   there's they're so smart ex-member of [TS]

00:40:31   points for sort of intelligence and and [TS]

00:40:32   sanity that sort of thing and you [TS]

00:40:36   explore and and turn over a room tile [TS]

00:40:38   for each each broom that you walk into [TS]

00:40:40   and as they mentioned that there is an [TS]

00:40:43   underground lake which is on the third [TS]

00:40:45   floor there's a main floor and upstairs [TS]

00:40:46   and the basement and yeah they were [TS]

00:40:49   there were a few mistakes but you could [TS]

00:40:51   you could travel around the house and [TS]

00:40:52   eventually after a certain number of a [TS]

00:40:55   of events happen there are some cards [TS]

00:40:58   that you turn up and spooky scary things [TS]

00:40:59   it's very fun to we used to put on a [TS]

00:41:01   midnight syndicate cds while we were [TS]

00:41:04   playing this game that's a really spooky [TS]

00:41:05   spooky band that does like just sort of [TS]

00:41:08   ambient music for like it's creepy [TS]

00:41:12   vampire type stuff and you read the [TS]

00:41:15   cards and really spooky voice and [TS]

00:41:18   eventually it becomes clear that one of [TS]

00:41:20   you is a traitor which nobody knows [TS]

00:41:22   until it actually happens and then that [TS]

00:41:25   person has to take this little booklet [TS]

00:41:26   and go off into another room and figure [TS]

00:41:28   out what they're supposed to do and then [TS]

00:41:29   everybody who's left are the good guys [TS]

00:41:31   and you read the a separate booklet and [TS]

00:41:35   then it's sort of like everybody against [TS]

00:41:37   the one traders bad guy and sometimes it [TS]

00:41:41   doesn't work out very well and it's not [TS]

00:41:43   always super well balanced but i just i [TS]

00:41:45   like the idea that it kinda takes a left [TS]

00:41:48   turn in the middle and it's kind of fun [TS]

00:41:49   and it's got a lot of good replayability [TS]

00:41:51   because there are like something like I [TS]

00:41:54   don't know 30 or 50 different is 50 [TS]

00:41:56   yeah 50 different scenarios that you can [TS]

00:41:59   go through [TS]

00:41:59   so there are tons and tons of little [TS]

00:42:01   tokens and tiles and stuff for rats and [TS]

00:42:04   bats and zombies and booze and whatever [TS]

00:42:07   kind of status please don't even put a [TS]

00:42:09   lot of random things for one thing where [TS]

00:42:11   you're having to put together a person [TS]

00:42:13   or something [TS]

00:42:15   it's the house has organs hintertux [TS]

00:42:17   trade you [TS]

00:42:18   I'm i played it too much for a game i [TS]

00:42:20   don't actually like yeah so according to [TS]

00:42:23   be the the erotic page for how thrilling [TS]

00:42:27   house on the hill the way you play is [TS]

00:42:29   when you get to the levitating lake on [TS]

00:42:31   the upper floor you get it cut the floor [TS]

00:42:34   collapses and plunges you down to the [TS]

00:42:36   lake in the basement and then you play [TS]

00:42:38   from there but yeah they are having kind [TS]

00:42:40   of a misprint [TS]

00:42:41   yeah having a link to the product page [TS]

00:42:43   it was very helpful when i played have [TS]

00:42:46   lain a 30 page printout that's layout [TS]

00:42:48   binder clip that stacked on top of my [TS]

00:42:50   box [TS]

00:42:51   Wow out of the floor i can't really push [TS]

00:42:54   the software update to a board game [TS]

00:42:56   no I mean it is it's really cool in that [TS]

00:42:59   each time you play it's gonna be very [TS]

00:43:00   different [TS]

00:43:01   unfortunately sometimes it'll be very [TS]

00:43:03   short sometimes it will be really get [TS]

00:43:05   along sometimes it'll be broken but I [TS]

00:43:07   mean it is i think they wanted to make a [TS]

00:43:09   game that would be very different every [TS]

00:43:11   time you played it and they did that a [TS]

00:43:12   lot of atmosphere which I appreciate [TS]

00:43:14   yes one thing I liked about it was that [TS]

00:43:16   some of the haunts are easier if you get [TS]

00:43:19   them earlier in the game and some are [TS]

00:43:21   easier to get them later in the game so [TS]

00:43:24   sometimes everything gets messed up and [TS]

00:43:26   it's impossible but you don't really [TS]

00:43:28   know until the hot start with your [TS]

00:43:30   facing zombies or the house is on fire [TS]

00:43:32   or you are small and you're running away [TS]

00:43:35   from cats and you have to confront the [TS]

00:43:37   giant paper airplane yes [TS]

00:43:38   yeah now another game i've never heard [TS]

00:43:41   of so good job [TS]

00:43:44   Erica you're different too and expose me [TS]

00:43:46   the games I have never even heard of [TS]

00:43:47   before [TS]

00:43:48   alright ah David your turn alright [TS]

00:43:51   here's one that friend got for me years [TS]

00:43:56   and years ago called poetry slam and [TS]

00:44:00   it's basically scrabble but with words [TS]

00:44:04   and the you know it's gotten answers I [TS]

00:44:08   mean if you've had if you've had a man [TS]

00:44:09   metric poetry kit same kind of pieces [TS]

00:44:12   right and your you would get scored [TS]

00:44:16   points for you know smaller points a [TS]

00:44:18   smaller words to be low points [TS]

00:44:20   complicated difficult words would be big [TS]

00:44:23   points we used to add to the rules [TS]

00:44:27   because there weren't enough rules that [TS]

00:44:29   you know if if your sentence or your [TS]

00:44:31   line was more coherent or more [TS]

00:44:33   attractive you get a bonus point if it [TS]

00:44:35   was nonsense but you didn't have a [TS]

00:44:37   choice either those were all the words [TS]

00:44:39   you had you didn't get any points but [TS]

00:44:41   that's a lot of fun and it would be fun [TS]

00:44:44   to Train make sense of all the poems and [TS]

00:44:47   sentences on the board by the end of the [TS]

00:44:48   game and so you know it's it's a fun fun [TS]

00:44:53   way to come up with random stuff so [TS]

00:44:55   magnetic poetry the board game basically [TS]

00:44:58   basically that's another one I've never [TS]

00:45:01   played or even heard of in this case [TS]

00:45:04   yeah I don't know if they even still [TS]

00:45:05   make it anymore but it's it's a lot of [TS]

00:45:07   fun it's well worth grabbing especially [TS]

00:45:09   if you like scrambled sort of squeeze a [TS]

00:45:12   little more difficult than scrabble [TS]

00:45:13   obviously wow yeah it's on [TS]

00:45:16   i'm looking at the page on boardgamegeek [TS]

00:45:17   right now it's real [TS]

00:45:19   he didn't imagine people it's I can take [TS]

00:45:22   a picture of it with myself and a [TS]

00:45:23   newspaper from today you haven't tasted [TS]

00:45:27   it yet [TS]

00:45:28   what introduce ya newspaper way to make [TS]

00:45:31   mines anymore [TS]

00:45:33   my degree is sometimes a half my ipad [TS]

00:45:36   with a website of the x 3000 really [TS]

00:45:39   impossible to fit much better much [TS]

00:45:42   better your photos impossible with a [TS]

00:45:44   hostage-taking order you something right [TS]

00:45:46   buddy [TS]

00:45:47   your turn okay i'm going to draft race [TS]

00:45:51   for the galaxy [TS]

00:45:52   ok that's because it's a great game who [TS]

00:45:55   else's place for the galaxy [TS]

00:45:56   I haven't played it but i do know of it [TS]

00:45:58   just can I played against you [TS]

00:46:00   many many times you call that playing [TS]

00:46:03   dan and I played a lot of race for the [TS]

00:46:08   galaxy race for galaxy is a card or [TS]

00:46:12   board game that is delightful it is a [TS]

00:46:15   game in which you are building a [TS]

00:46:17   galactic empire it is not it it's not as [TS]

00:46:22   interactive again [TS]

00:46:23   as other games that i like your kind of [TS]

00:46:24   building a little Empire for yourself [TS]

00:46:25   and pulling cards and using cards to buy [TS]

00:46:27   other cards and build this little empire [TS]

00:46:29   in front of you it's actually kind of if [TS]

00:46:31   you have ever played the game [TS]

00:46:32   Porto Rico which is a game where you [TS]

00:46:34   hang on these so apparently the the [TS]

00:46:36   stories that race for the galaxy wasn't [TS]

00:46:38   that came kind of out of a game design [TS]

00:46:40   challenge in which the idea was to take [TS]

00:46:42   the get the board game puerto rico and [TS]

00:46:44   turn it into a card game and that is [TS]

00:46:46   somewhat what they've done [TS]

00:46:47   you get to choose a kind of a special [TS]

00:46:49   power each turn and those can rotate and [TS]

00:46:51   there's turning things into either [TS]

00:46:54   victory points or into goods that you [TS]

00:46:56   can use to convert into stuff on it is [TS]

00:46:59   not the easiest game to learn how to [TS]

00:47:01   play it is very popular in there at this [TS]

00:47:03   point I think 45 expansions for it on [TS]

00:47:06   which add to the complexity of it but it [TS]

00:47:09   does take a while to ramp up to it i [TS]

00:47:11   have taught many people have to play it [TS]

00:47:12   and it's a game that takes like a good [TS]

00:47:14   five or six times before people get it [TS]

00:47:15   but i have frequently heard people refer [TS]

00:47:17   to it as a nerd poker because people [TS]

00:47:20   really enjoy playing it and being able [TS]

00:47:23   to chat while playing it once that kind [TS]

00:47:24   of mastered it [TS]

00:47:25   it does kind of suffer in that it's not [TS]

00:47:26   a very interactive game right like [TS]

00:47:28   you're not trading goods with other [TS]

00:47:30   people or affecting other people which [TS]

00:47:32   is kind of one of my critiques of a lot [TS]

00:47:34   of the kind of older style board games [TS]

00:47:36   where it's like you know you're rolling [TS]

00:47:37   dice and moving a little thing around [TS]

00:47:38   bored and you're not actually [TS]

00:47:39   interacting with other people in the [TS]

00:47:42   game space some of us like that so I [TS]

00:47:44   like protective plus i do like that [TS]

00:47:47   because it i refer to that game as being [TS]

00:47:49   its competitive without being [TS]

00:47:51   antagonistic yes which is to say you're [TS]

00:47:53   not [TS]

00:47:54   yeah you're not trying to be like you [TS]

00:47:55   can't grieve somebody in racing around [TS]

00:47:57   see which I think also having played [TS]

00:47:59   with Tony and some of our other friends [TS]

00:48:01   I think that's a good thing i'm coming [TS]

00:48:04   for you and i and i would put race for [TS]

00:48:06   the galaxy in this lake [TS]

00:48:08   probably my grouping of like five games [TS]

00:48:11   that I played hundreds of times to the [TS]

00:48:13   point that like I would get sick of it [TS]

00:48:14   and then take a couple weeks off for [TS]

00:48:16   months off and then come back to it [TS]

00:48:18   there were times where like you know you [TS]

00:48:20   go away for a weekend and I would just [TS]

00:48:22   play dozens of games in a weekend with [TS]

00:48:24   people i will never forget their the [TS]

00:48:26   time again and I were sitting in my use [TS]

00:48:29   the word crappy but let's say shabby [TS]

00:48:30   apartment in the summer with no [TS]

00:48:33   air-conditioning and we just played I [TS]

00:48:35   think then we played race ago [TS]

00:48:36   see from like noon until like like in [TS]

00:48:38   three and thirty in the morning or [TS]

00:48:40   something yeah something like that was [TS]

00:48:41   and we just have playing at speed you [TS]

00:48:43   can play in a game in about half an hour [TS]

00:48:45   and just finishing be like one more game [TS]

00:48:47   for Game well and it had it hits that [TS]

00:48:50   kind of that thing that it because of [TS]

00:48:52   the strategy that's in it that like I [TS]

00:48:53   feel like a lot of video games kind of [TS]

00:48:55   kind of catch you where you can like you [TS]

00:48:57   want to try you want to get a little bit [TS]

00:48:58   better each time right all right you [TS]

00:49:00   know there is an element but of kind of [TS]

00:49:02   both competing with yourself as well as [TS]

00:49:04   the other players because you can't [TS]

00:49:05   really interact with them which is kind [TS]

00:49:07   of neat so you are kind of playing [TS]

00:49:09   against yourself trying to see how many [TS]

00:49:10   points you can get there are several [TS]

00:49:12   different strategies that people try to [TS]

00:49:13   use and that you know people leaving so [TS]

00:49:15   you know and some of those are kind of [TS]

00:49:17   pic for you at the beginning you get [TS]

00:49:18   assigned I homeworld the start of the [TS]

00:49:20   game randomly and you know the home [TS]

00:49:22   world gives you a slight edge toward a [TS]

00:49:23   variety of different strategies so [TS]

00:49:24   there's like you might get a strategy to [TS]

00:49:26   homeworld that starting with a little [TS]

00:49:28   bit of military power and you decide I'm [TS]

00:49:29   gonna go military or I'm not going to go [TS]

00:49:31   military and I i like that because it's [TS]

00:49:35   kind of like games where you can kind of [TS]

00:49:37   try practice it and hope that you're [TS]

00:49:39   getting better and better and you know [TS]

00:49:41   theoretically could never get bored of [TS]

00:49:43   it but it right [TS]

00:49:44   what's nice is extremely tactical game 2 [TS]

00:49:46   which is that if there are many [TS]

00:49:48   different valid paths to winning and it [TS]

00:49:52   really does depend on how you're playing [TS]

00:49:54   it and also i like the tactical part [TS]

00:49:56   that it's you know your best move is the [TS]

00:49:59   move that you can like make right now [TS]

00:50:00   right like you gotta look about what is [TS]

00:50:02   my options right now I gotta do the best [TS]

00:50:03   thing for me right now as opposed to [TS]

00:50:05   like if you try to plan out like eight [TS]

00:50:07   moves ahead and you don't get the cards [TS]

00:50:09   that you want you know that that's a [TS]

00:50:11   waste [TS]

00:50:11   so you go to raise my galaxy with the [TS]

00:50:13   cards you have not the cards you need [TS]

00:50:14   and so I don't know it always hit that [TS]

00:50:17   kind of strategy spot for me probably in [TS]

00:50:20   a way that maybe poker or chested for [TS]

00:50:22   other people I used to play a lot of [TS]

00:50:24   chest like and in junior high and was [TS]

00:50:26   never was always rubbish at it [TS]

00:50:27   I've never really gotten into poker but [TS]

00:50:30   that idea of kind of trying to get a [TS]

00:50:31   little bit better each time and and kind [TS]

00:50:33   of it is one of those good games where [TS]

00:50:36   you know i think you could probably [TS]

00:50:38   never completely master it so that [TS]

00:50:39   there's always there's an interesting [TS]

00:50:41   element of that and there is if you do [TS]

00:50:44   not like other humans [TS]

00:50:45   there's probably there's a version you [TS]

00:50:46   can play on your computer we can beat [TS]

00:50:49   the AI [TS]

00:50:50   k is pretty good and you can just you [TS]

00:50:52   can play those games in like eight [TS]

00:50:53   minutes because you're not waiting for [TS]

00:50:54   other humans [TS]

00:50:55   I don't know if I recommend that but if [TS]

00:50:57   you do not like other people check that [TS]

00:50:59   out and don't talk to me all right [TS]

00:51:01   I it does sound good however my favorite [TS]

00:51:04   part of puerto rico is a little wooden [TS]

00:51:05   barrels so i assume these are time and [TS]

00:51:07   no wooden barrels that makes me sad [TS]

00:51:09   there I mean I i enjoyed puerto rico i [TS]

00:51:11   played a lot of that before racing [TS]

00:51:13   galaxy there are some of the automatic [TS]

00:51:15   elements of puerto rico that I could [TS]

00:51:16   never not be uncomfortable about so fair [TS]

00:51:19   enough water rico is a game in which [TS]

00:51:21   unpaid workers come to help you make [TS]

00:51:24   good at your plantation but a little [TS]

00:51:27   Harold's from far away and they're so [TS]

00:51:30   eager to finish two more people come [TS]

00:51:32   every day to work for free on my [TS]

00:51:33   plantation yeah I makes them so there's [TS]

00:51:35   that on one hand on the other hand you [TS]

00:51:38   get to say indigo so like you've got a [TS]

00:51:40   mouth looks that out [TS]

00:51:41   dad it's your turn well I'm gonna pick a [TS]

00:51:43   slightly similar game in that i find it [TS]

00:51:45   falls in that same sort of competitive [TS]

00:51:46   without being antagonistic slot and this [TS]

00:51:49   is I probably my favorite game recent [TS]

00:51:51   years i bought it for multiple people [TS]

00:51:52   and that is seven wonders [TS]

00:51:54   I'm anybody else has ladies at night [TS]

00:51:57   there's not yet i mean i know tony has [TS]

00:52:00   but it's it is a really fun game where [TS]

00:52:02   it takes place in its the seven wonders [TS]

00:52:04   of the ancient world each of you get one [TS]

00:52:06   of the wonders game on a card game but [TS]

00:52:10   it has boards as a board you have a [TS]

00:52:11   board in front of you you have an [TS]

00:52:13   individual bored with your wonder on it [TS]

00:52:15   and you basically it's played in three [TS]

00:52:17   ages and in each age you have your Delta [TS]

00:52:21   a certain number of cards that are [TS]

00:52:22   things that you can build like resources [TS]

00:52:24   you know like wood piles are you know [TS]

00:52:27   brick places you can actually get break [TS]

00:52:29   from or rock or what have you and then [TS]

00:52:32   make things get more complicated your [TS]

00:52:33   building like forums and the Senate's [TS]

00:52:36   and there's all these different types of [TS]

00:52:38   cards the science cards we're building [TS]

00:52:40   like achievements and learning and and [TS]

00:52:43   things where you're building like [TS]

00:52:43   statues or or monuments or things [TS]

00:52:46   rebuilding commercial things and you [TS]

00:52:48   sort of go around and build your tableau [TS]

00:52:50   and you're competing with the people you [TS]

00:52:53   know to try and build acquire the most [TS]

00:52:54   points have your tab will be worth the [TS]

00:52:56   most at the end of the game and you do [TS]

00:52:58   there is some interaction because you [TS]

00:52:59   can trade as in something like sellers [TS]

00:53:01   Don you can trade resources with the [TS]

00:53:03   people [TS]

00:53:03   on either side of you but since it plays [TS]

00:53:05   up to seven people that are oftentimes [TS]

00:53:07   people who are like across the table [TS]

00:53:09   from you that you are basically will [TS]

00:53:10   never interact with but it's super fun [TS]

00:53:14   it takes you know like it's not too [TS]

00:53:17   steep of a learning curve i find that [TS]

00:53:19   the first game takes about an hour and [TS]

00:53:21   then subsequent games you can play in [TS]

00:53:22   about half an hour [TS]

00:53:23   there's a really cool mechanic with [TS]

00:53:24   where your hand you're dealt the [TS]

00:53:27   beginning the game basically gets passed [TS]

00:53:29   around to every player so you pick a [TS]

00:53:31   card and then you pass the remaining [TS]

00:53:33   cards to the player on your right or [TS]

00:53:34   left and basically it goes all the way [TS]

00:53:36   around so it's another one of these [TS]

00:53:38   games that require sort of like alright [TS]

00:53:39   these are these cards what's the best [TS]

00:53:41   card i can pick right now because I [TS]

00:53:43   might not have another chance at this [TS]

00:53:46   set of cards and it's it's really [TS]

00:53:48   beautiful game it's with great art you [TS]

00:53:51   know well designed and I haven't really [TS]

00:53:53   met anybody who doesn't seem to enjoy it [TS]

00:53:55   so i bought it for my cousins for a [TS]

00:53:59   couple friends it's it's super fun and [TS]

00:54:02   it's hard to find games that place seven [TS]

00:54:03   people [TS]

00:54:04   yeah it is it's a good one for the egg i [TS]

00:54:06   think it's it's it's in that nice spot [TS]

00:54:08   of having enough complexity but also [TS]

00:54:10   being something that you can introduce [TS]

00:54:12   other people too i used to play board [TS]

00:54:14   games with people of my work over lunch [TS]

00:54:16   and it was always like hard to find a [TS]

00:54:18   game that you could definitely play in [TS]

00:54:19   an hour and that you could definitely [TS]

00:54:21   play in an hour and teach somebody would [TS]

00:54:23   not played it before and seven wonders [TS]

00:54:25   fits like perfectly into that it's a [TS]

00:54:27   really great i'd say of all the games [TS]

00:54:28   we've kind of talked about today if [TS]

00:54:30   there's one that like you want to go out [TS]

00:54:32   and buy and play for the first time [TS]

00:54:34   without you know knowing how to play [TS]

00:54:36   ahead of time seven wonders to be a [TS]

00:54:37   great one to start with my old work [TS]

00:54:40   nobody ever worried about that [TS]

00:54:41   so every mail room was full of wargames [TS]

00:54:44   tucked in the corner with note saying [TS]

00:54:46   please do not move any of these armies [TS]

00:54:48   right I my turn [TS]

00:54:52   I'm gonna pick a game so my plan playing [TS]

00:54:55   board games with my kids is a challenge [TS]

00:54:57   because when you lose it can be [TS]

00:55:01   upsetting if you're really into the game [TS]

00:55:03   I don't know if you remember being a kid [TS]

00:55:04   and having that moment of like you know [TS]

00:55:06   it's not that great to lose a game and [TS]

00:55:10   so we my wife and I went on a whole [TS]

00:55:16   quest to come up with some games that we [TS]

00:55:19   could play that would not upset my son [TS]

00:55:20   because if you didn't win he would be [TS]

00:55:24   upset [TS]

00:55:25   let the Wookiee win that was one thing [TS]

00:55:26   we could do otherwise we had to find a [TS]

00:55:28   game that was cooperative and we ended [TS]

00:55:30   up finding one that he loves to this day [TS]

00:55:33   several years later and it's castle [TS]

00:55:36   panic i don't know if you guys have I [TS]

00:55:39   have played it played this game he [TS]

00:55:41   basically you have a castle in the [TS]

00:55:43   center of the map and every turn its [TS]

00:55:46   cool completely cooperative game every [TS]

00:55:49   turn monsters appear in the forest and [TS]

00:55:52   move toward your castle and the game [TS]

00:55:55   ends when you kill all the monsters and [TS]

00:55:57   there's a big bag full of monster tiles [TS]

00:55:59   or the monsters knock down all the walls [TS]

00:56:02   of your castle and I think there are six [TS]

00:56:03   different walls that they can they can [TS]

00:56:06   hit and then you then you lose and when [TS]

00:56:09   you lose everybody loses and if you win [TS]

00:56:11   then the person who kills the most [TS]

00:56:12   monsters is the master Slayer but really [TS]

00:56:14   it is a cooperative game and it's got [TS]

00:56:17   some expansion packs that up the [TS]

00:56:19   difficulty level a little bit because [TS]

00:56:20   after you played a little while you can [TS]

00:56:22   get pretty good unless you really have [TS]

00:56:24   bad luck with the drawing of the [TS]

00:56:25   monsters you can get pretty good at [TS]

00:56:27   killing the monsters and and the way the [TS]

00:56:29   play works as you get cards that are [TS]

00:56:31   basically often stew attack various [TS]

00:56:36   monsters in various places on the board [TS]

00:56:38   and you can trade one card with with [TS]

00:56:42   other players on the board so you're [TS]

00:56:44   trying to work the problem together and [TS]

00:56:47   then you kill the monsters and take [TS]

00:56:48   their tokens and then when that's all [TS]

00:56:50   done you move the monsters and they get [TS]

00:56:52   closer and they move around and they do [TS]

00:56:54   and occasionally giant boulders roll [TS]

00:56:56   through and slam into the walls of your [TS]

00:56:57   castle and things like that but it's a [TS]

00:57:00   lot of fun and there's no either [TS]

00:57:02   everybody loses in which case there's no [TS]

00:57:04   gloating winner it right it's just like [TS]

00:57:07   a shock the monsters one or everybody [TS]

00:57:09   wins and I really like that and it feels [TS]

00:57:14   actually a little bit like a video game [TS]

00:57:15   reminds me of space invaders in a way in [TS]

00:57:17   the relentless way that the waves of [TS]

00:57:19   they just keep coming and they come [TS]

00:57:21   closer and closer and closer until they [TS]

00:57:23   destroy you but it it has been really [TS]

00:57:26   successful with my kids because it is [TS]

00:57:29   cooperative [TS]

00:57:30   and yet and they can grasp the the [TS]

00:57:33   strategy of how to knock these monsters [TS]

00:57:36   off and yeah the monsters have different [TS]

00:57:37   illustrations on their card so they're [TS]

00:57:38   kind of interesting it's like oh that [TS]

00:57:40   guy's really ugly and all that but in [TS]

00:57:41   the end it's a great like teamwork board [TS]

00:57:44   game so castle panic i like it a lot [TS]

00:57:46   you should play it play it with kids [TS]

00:57:48   they like it [TS]

00:57:50   you know for kids yeah that's a good one [TS]

00:57:54   so shout-out to my local game store who [TS]

00:57:56   recommended that one to us because they [TS]

00:57:58   got it right [TS]

00:57:59   support your local game store okay hey [TS]

00:58:02   you know what game we haven't mentioned [TS]

00:58:03   in this entire episode of the [TS]

00:58:04   incomparable so far [TS]

00:58:06   cards against humanity the reason is [TS]

00:58:09   this episode is brought to you by cards [TS]

00:58:11   against humanity [TS]

00:58:13   now they asked us not to say anything [TS]

00:58:15   about their game because they said they [TS]

00:58:16   just didn't want to waste your time so [TS]

00:58:18   they say enjoy the podcast [TS]

00:58:21   thank you two cards against humanity I'm [TS]

00:58:23   just gonna slip it in their cards [TS]

00:58:24   against humanity calm all right back to [TS]

00:58:26   it [TS]

00:58:27   let's do a lightning round where we just [TS]

00:58:28   go around really quickly and name [TS]

00:58:30   another another round before we before [TS]

00:58:32   we go I don't want to just do two rounds [TS]

00:58:34   so Monty what do you have a risk 2210 ad [TS]

00:58:37   it's like risk but it has new maps it's [TS]

00:58:40   in the future so you can go to space and [TS]

00:58:43   there's a turn limit everybody gets five [TS]

00:58:45   turns at five years and you're done [TS]

00:58:47   really improves risk [TS]

00:58:49   oh and their nukes you get the nuclear [TS]

00:58:51   bomb people wow you are there other [TS]

00:58:53   crazy risk duty and have you played a [TS]

00:58:55   crazy [TS]

00:58:56   yeah i was going to risk agassi yeah [TS]

00:58:58   that's what I see is not that was on my [TS]

00:58:59   list [TS]

00:59:00   not as much fun game per game as risk [TS]

00:59:02   2210 80 which I played a million times [TS]

00:59:05   cool well just let her i used to work [TS]

00:59:07   for the company that made it alright [TS]

00:59:08   more disclosure for my body is connected [TS]

00:59:11   to many of these games although he takes [TS]

00:59:13   no credit or blame for betrayal and the [TS]

00:59:15   house on the hill he tried to fix it but [TS]

00:59:20   the only fixed is one copy and as I a [TS]

00:59:23   good enough [TS]

00:59:24   Erica were value my nexus one of my [TS]

00:59:27   all-time favorite games [TS]

00:59:28   arkham horror which is a game based on [TS]

00:59:31   the American i think you and i may have [TS]

00:59:35   like opposite idea [TS]

00:59:37   not happiness and board games I think [TS]

00:59:40   you might be right [TS]

00:59:40   well between that betrayal you've got a [TS]

00:59:42   lot of little yet counters to deal with [TS]

00:59:45   she loves cardboard hate sanity like it [TS]

00:59:48   yes yes that is exactly it [TS]

00:59:50   it's a it's based on the lovecraftian [TS]

00:59:52   mythos and it's a game that has a [TS]

00:59:55   million rules takes forever [TS]

00:59:57   um and almost never gets been [TS]

00:59:57   um and almost never gets been [TS]

01:00:00   and I like games like that that's my [TS]

01:00:01   thing and it's another cooperative game [TS]

01:00:05   actually which is I love co-op games i [TS]

01:00:07   prefer that too i don't like games [TS]

01:00:10   restriping at each other being caught [TS]

01:00:11   being contentious so yeah I i'll play [TS]

01:00:16   arkham horror anytime all right David [TS]

01:00:18   well I you know I got so many hot board [TS]

01:00:22   games over here [TS]

01:00:23   I mean even have the have gun will [TS]

01:00:24   travel board game from 1959 which is [TS]

01:00:27   actually kind of fun but i'm going to [TS]

01:00:30   mention a game that isn't even out yet [TS]

01:00:32   because i really want to play it [TS]

01:00:34   there's the comic book and graphic novel [TS]

01:00:38   called kill shakespeare that combines [TS]

01:00:41   all of Shakespeare's plays into one [TS]

01:00:44   gigantic world and has different [TS]

01:00:47   characters in different places teaming [TS]

01:00:49   up to kill one another and rescue [TS]

01:00:52   everyone from the evil lady macbeth and [TS]

01:00:54   all this stuff and now [TS]

01:00:56   idw who puts out the comic book is [TS]

01:00:59   putting out a game and they just started [TS]

01:01:00   a kickstarter for it and it looks really [TS]

01:01:03   interesting and it looks like it blends [TS]

01:01:05   a lot of elements from games like catan [TS]

01:01:09   and maybe risk [TS]

01:01:10   I don't know I've only seen a little bit [TS]

01:01:13   of the game but it looks really exciting [TS]

01:01:15   alright little speculation there you [TS]

01:01:17   taking up but it's a draft you can take [TS]

01:01:19   of the Union everyone knows maybe taking [TS]

01:01:21   a long game here stretch pepper you [TS]

01:01:24   already have the long game [TS]

01:01:25   you picked monopoly yeah you got all [TS]

01:01:27   well David just mentioned it and this is [TS]

01:01:31   the lightning round so we don't have to [TS]

01:01:32   talk too much about it but it feels [TS]

01:01:33   upset to not have specifically called [TS]

01:01:35   out settlers of catan music you know [TS]

01:01:39   German board game in which you trade [TS]

01:01:40   goods you get to say you know I'd like [TS]

01:01:42   sheep for woman or shoot for grain and [TS]

01:01:45   so on so I don't know if we need god I [TS]

01:01:47   hate the robber the robbers sucks don't [TS]

01:01:49   make the sheep for wool trade don't make [TS]

01:01:51   the sheep for wool trade ya i don't know [TS]

01:01:52   i don't know how much I need morning [TS]

01:01:54   more i need to say about it if you could [TS]

01:01:55   run about the lighting around I would [TS]

01:01:57   tell the story about how when i was in [TS]

01:01:59   college i had too many sodas and [TS]

01:02:01   interface the wikipedia page for [TS]

01:02:02   settlers of catan I just want to pay [TS]

01:02:04   when I was young and irresponsible i was [TS]

01:02:06   young and irresponsible and I feel bad [TS]

01:02:08   about that too many also does defense [TS]

01:02:10   difficult [TS]

01:02:11   too many sodas and that man can't hold [TS]

01:02:14   this caffeine telling you know it's i [TS]

01:02:17   don't know if i can be clear about how [TS]

01:02:18   boring my childhood and adult and early [TS]

01:02:22   adult like was and is I think we're [TS]

01:02:25   getting the picture [TS]

01:02:25   yeah damn well i will mention since it [TS]

01:02:29   came up risk legacy which is a really [TS]

01:02:32   fun twist on risk where the board itself [TS]

01:02:34   changes as you go along you basically [TS]

01:02:37   get stickers that go down and so you [TS]

01:02:39   found cities occasionally bad things [TS]

01:02:42   happen like entire countries get Newt or [TS]

01:02:45   there is toxic waste or there's you you [TS]

01:02:49   get to name continents you get bonuses [TS]

01:02:51   from these things and like as with [TS]

01:02:53   Monty's version of risk they I think [TS]

01:02:55   improve it by making it so that winning [TS]

01:02:58   the game doesn't require so much you [TS]

01:03:01   know eliminating every other player from [TS]

01:03:03   the game which can take forever and if [TS]

01:03:06   there's a finite number of games that [TS]

01:03:08   you can actually play which i think is a [TS]

01:03:09   fascinating concept basically you can [TS]

01:03:11   play 15 games after that point the world [TS]

01:03:14   is set you can continue to play but it [TS]

01:03:16   just doesn't change anymore but the [TS]

01:03:17   whole idea of a malleable world for [TS]

01:03:19   boardgames strikes me as just it's it's [TS]

01:03:22   fascinating and it really especially [TS]

01:03:24   love the fact that drives one of our [TS]

01:03:26   friends crazy because you can rip up [TS]

01:03:27   cards there's also secret pockets [TS]

01:03:31   oh yes our secret package you open you [TS]

01:03:33   unlock as the game goes along you you [TS]

01:03:35   meet certain conditions that require you [TS]

01:03:37   to open up little envelopes and add new [TS]

01:03:39   elements to the game crazy stuff and [TS]

01:03:41   like stickers that go in the rules and [TS]

01:03:43   there's an envelope that says never open [TS]

01:03:45   this there is there was as being out and [TS]

01:03:47   about that when I behind it yeah we had [TS]

01:03:49   we had an argument [TS]

01:03:51   someone want to open it surprise is [TS]

01:03:54   amazing and for my lightning round pick [TS]

01:03:58   I was gonna I was gonna mention their [TS]

01:04:00   fuel that will go around and get with [TS]

01:04:02   what's left but i wanna I'm gonna pick [TS]

01:04:04   rather than going for another really fun [TS]

01:04:06   game that we've been playing recently [TS]

01:04:08   i'm gonna call active on to go back into [TS]

01:04:10   the old the archive one of my favorites [TS]

01:04:12   as a kid [TS]

01:04:13   sorry or as they say that's on my list [TS]

01:04:16   to as we say in Canada sorry Marie um i [TS]

01:04:20   love this game it's a year you got a [TS]

01:04:22   little brightly colored guy [TS]

01:04:24   and you move them around and you have to [TS]

01:04:26   get them all the way from the start to [TS]

01:04:27   the finish around the board and if they [TS]

01:04:30   land right on the little triangle at the [TS]

01:04:31   top of the slide they get to slide down [TS]

01:04:33   a few extra spaces but if you bump [TS]

01:04:35   somebody off sorry they go back to the [TS]

01:04:38   start of it and you have to get all four [TS]

01:04:39   i believe of your little guys all the [TS]

01:04:41   way around the board and into their [TS]

01:04:43   little home safely and you don't roll [TS]

01:04:46   dice you draw I think you dropped cards [TS]

01:04:48   right yep kindness yeah I i love that [TS]

01:04:51   game I play that game way way too much [TS]

01:04:53   as a kid and when I think about board [TS]

01:04:55   games [TS]

01:04:56   I think about not just sorry I think [TS]

01:04:57   about a sari board that was sort of half [TS]

01:05:00   ripped down the center spine your cousin [TS]

01:05:02   always take so much [TS]

01:05:04   yeah there was a design flaw there I [TS]

01:05:07   mean it wasn't an underground pool on [TS]

01:05:09   the upper floor but still it was a [TS]

01:05:10   different design plus it was well-loved [TS]

01:05:12   and what you know the whole cardboard [TS]

01:05:14   box was kind of rushed but I loved it [TS]

01:05:16   and so I'm gonna I'm gonna take take an [TS]

01:05:19   old-school game and pick sorry [TS]

01:05:20   there may be nothing more aggravating in [TS]

01:05:22   the world than your younger sister [TS]

01:05:24   saying sorry [TS]

01:05:26   oh yeah this game talk to children about [TS]

01:05:28   how to be mean and still apologize [TS]

01:05:30   yeah how to say sorry sarcastically yep [TS]

01:05:33   that's right that's practically an MBA [TS]

01:05:35   education before you can right there in [TS]

01:05:37   one game [TS]

01:05:37   sorry with an exclamation point that's [TS]

01:05:40   the best part about it sorry but not [TS]

01:05:43   really sorry that was the subtitle [TS]

01:05:45   they're not back to the beginning he's [TS]

01:05:49   going to go all the way around again and [TS]

01:05:50   I had the cards have little weird things [TS]

01:05:52   like some of them had strange things you [TS]

01:05:55   go backward and it was crazy it was I [TS]

01:05:58   love that game [TS]

01:05:59   all right we should get everybody what [TS]

01:06:01   what else was on people's lists that [TS]

01:06:03   didn't get chosen in the three rounds of [TS]

01:06:04   our draft or free agents that there's a [TS]

01:06:06   list of lightning things yeah yeah now [TS]

01:06:08   we move we know we're dumping dumping [TS]

01:06:10   out the list you know how this one's own [TS]

01:06:12   Iman Monty what else did you have that [TS]

01:06:13   you didn't want you didn't get to [TS]

01:06:14   mention i had blood bowl specifically [TS]

01:06:17   the original roof of blood wow I've ever [TS]

01:06:19   heard of that but I know today is that [TS]

01:06:21   sounds terrible I want to go to their [TS]

01:06:23   attacking workshop football game with [TS]

01:06:26   elves and orcs and stuff [TS]

01:06:28   the original version oh my it was a [TS]

01:06:31   deluxe bored you could have that was all [TS]

01:06:33   sculpted and that meant that the figures [TS]

01:06:35   would stand right at any of the squares [TS]

01:06:37   and I'll [TS]

01:06:37   loved it there's a video game version [TS]

01:06:39   now that some people like i have not [TS]

01:06:40   played I so everything my list if we'd [TS]

01:06:44   gone long enough I would have picked the [TS]

01:06:45   Mad Magazine game which was a parody of [TS]

01:06:48   monopoly and actively unplayable [TS]

01:06:51   yeah and I'm going to that game got king [TS]

01:06:54   of Tokyo which is a super fun game [TS]

01:06:57   yes mostly be so I could say that I [TS]

01:07:00   played it before it was out in chiba [TS]

01:07:03   japan with the designer Richard Garfield [TS]

01:07:05   and one of the sons [TS]

01:07:07   Wow planning render their me out the [TS]

01:07:09   game planning a job make that Erica what [TS]

01:07:13   did you have in your leftovers i had a [TS]

01:07:15   few from the classic as a kid a category [TS]

01:07:18   life which i used to love although now I [TS]

01:07:20   realize that my name is totally effed up [TS]

01:07:23   it's not a good it's not a good game oh [TS]

01:07:25   my god it's terrible but it has spinner [TS]

01:07:27   which became terrible because it [TS]

01:07:29   wouldn't spend for very long [TS]

01:07:30   little pigs yep fireball island which [TS]

01:07:33   was a man is almost pic that i watch the [TS]

01:07:36   kid that wants the commercial for it [TS]

01:07:38   today because I wanted to I had that [TS]

01:07:40   game convince my mother to buy it made [TS]

01:07:42   her play it with me incessantly it's you [TS]

01:07:44   know very good it [TS]

01:07:46   yeah but you don't know that when your [TS]

01:07:48   little such great design like mousetrap [TS]

01:07:50   right like that long part is putting the [TS]

01:07:52   game together and like mousetrap is the [TS]

01:07:53   next one on my list doesn't matter i'm [TS]

01:07:56   starting to get an idea of your taste [TS]

01:07:58   your Erica yeah but then it jumping back [TS]

01:08:00   into two games sort of slightly more [TS]

01:08:03   recent ones i just played a game a [TS]

01:08:05   couple weeks ago for the first time [TS]

01:08:06   called dixit which is kind of like a [TS]

01:08:09   cross between apples to apples and [TS]

01:08:11   balderdash [TS]

01:08:12   except you're using pictures instead of [TS]

01:08:13   of words which really really fun because [TS]

01:08:17   the child love it children's library and [TS]

01:08:19   loves that game she plays with her kids [TS]

01:08:21   and it's it's really fun [TS]

01:08:22   yeah it's one that like I just have to [TS]

01:08:23   go and get it after playing it I liked [TS]

01:08:25   it that much [TS]

01:08:26   there was there are a lot of Lord of the [TS]

01:08:28   Rings games but there was one particular [TS]

01:08:30   one that was a co-op game that I quite [TS]

01:08:32   like that my sister and her boyfriend [TS]

01:08:34   have so that was a good one [TS]

01:08:36   we mentioned settlers of catan but I [TS]

01:08:38   like starfarers of Catan which is a very [TS]

01:08:42   separate game it's not one of the [TS]

01:08:43   expansion packs and instead of rolling [TS]

01:08:45   dice you have giant plastic spaceships [TS]

01:08:48   with three different colored balls in [TS]

01:08:49   the middle and you should [TS]

01:08:50   come up and down and the video game the [TS]

01:08:53   way that they land tells you how many [TS]

01:08:55   like tells you where you can go and i [TS]

01:08:57   got wildly out of print now [TS]

01:08:59   oh yeah it is it's really expensive well [TS]

01:09:01   because they're Star Trek Catan you know [TS]

01:09:02   that they're focusing yeah i like my [TS]

01:09:05   star fares solar quest which is [TS]

01:09:07   basically monopoly in space with lasers [TS]

01:09:10   your landing you're landing on the moons [TS]

01:09:13   of the the planets of the solar system [TS]

01:09:15   instead of instead of properties and [TS]

01:09:18   that helps you learn about learn about [TS]

01:09:20   the planets as well so you know lasers [TS]

01:09:21   land on I oh yeah that that's the thing [TS]

01:09:24   like I one time I was playing and I got [TS]

01:09:25   taken out on the second term because [TS]

01:09:27   somebody rolled two sixes and shot me [TS]

01:09:29   with his lasers and I was dead so those [TS]

01:09:31   a little sad [TS]

01:09:32   yeah that I figure that's probably good [TS]

01:09:36   enough amazing crazy list [TS]

01:09:38   alright David what do you have left over [TS]

01:09:41   I've got a game called Kinesis that we [TS]

01:09:44   picked up at the there's a nice little [TS]

01:09:46   game store bat 90 miles away [TS]

01:09:49   it just looked interesting i had no idea [TS]

01:09:51   what it was and it's one of those where [TS]

01:09:53   you have to get your piece all the way [TS]

01:09:55   across the others to the other side of [TS]

01:09:57   the board but you can only move one [TS]

01:09:58   space at a time unless you land on quote [TS]

01:10:00   unquote a stick and then then it kind of [TS]

01:10:03   works like chutes and ladders for adults [TS]

01:10:05   it's it's a difficult but fun game [TS]

01:10:10   I also i mean just going classical of [TS]

01:10:13   chess i love Parcheesi but my favorite [TS]

01:10:17   of all those kind of games is pente [TS]

01:10:19   which i think came out right around [TS]

01:10:23   sixth grade and we all went nuts for [TS]

01:10:26   users beautiful as you know it came [TS]

01:10:27   rolled up in a 2 in your head little [TS]

01:10:30   translucent gems and so you know you one [TS]

01:10:34   person had the red gems and one person [TS]

01:10:36   at the gold gems and you had to put put [TS]

01:10:40   them at the board was a grid and you put [TS]

01:10:44   each gym on a [TS]

01:10:46   a corner of a point where the where the [TS]

01:10:49   squares would meet and you had to get [TS]

01:10:52   five in a row but you had you could [TS]

01:10:54   block the other person and so you can [TS]

01:10:56   wind up with the board covered in gems [TS]

01:10:57   and so it was just it was one of those [TS]

01:11:00   where the aesthetics of the game was [TS]

01:11:01   over and then we just really enjoyed [TS]

01:11:04   playing it so alright i miss that one [TS]

01:11:07   ok Tony what do you have [TS]

01:11:10   all right i got four so the first one is [TS]

01:11:13   forbidden island which is another [TS]

01:11:14   cooperate game yeah I think corporate [TS]

01:11:17   games are really interesting yeah we [TS]

01:11:18   haven't we got forbidden desert which is [TS]

01:11:20   harder and we needed to me that one you [TS]

01:11:22   have yet to win we lost like five times [TS]

01:11:24   it makes it hard to doesn't have like a [TS]

01:11:26   sliding difficulty scale allow that were [TS]

01:11:28   that were at the easy of scale and we [TS]

01:11:31   can't beat it [TS]

01:11:31   so yeah so I don't I think cooperative [TS]

01:11:34   games are really neat forbidden island [TS]

01:11:35   and a forbidden desert by the same [TS]

01:11:37   person who designed pandemic so [TS]

01:11:38   depending on kind of where you are you [TS]

01:11:40   might choose one of those depending on [TS]

01:11:42   you know przemek is a little bit more [TS]

01:11:43   adult was forbidden island is kind of [TS]

01:11:45   more kid-friendly yeah um so there's [TS]

01:11:47   that my next game is a croissant [TS]

01:11:51   roseburg football app is a very bizarre [TS]

01:11:58   game to cart her bug is also known as [TS]

01:12:02   the coach right to the Devil's castle is [TS]

01:12:05   a German game I have it I the game in [TS]

01:12:07   German with they have I it was sold [TS]

01:12:10   internationally somewhere so it has in [TS]

01:12:11   much smaller text the English [TS]

01:12:13   instructions on each of the cards i [TS]

01:12:15   believe they did eventually make an [TS]

01:12:17   American version of it but I for a while [TS]

01:12:18   had a weird like imported one that i [TS]

01:12:20   bought from some guy in Spain over the [TS]

01:12:22   internet it was very exciting [TS]

01:12:23   um and it is a game where you are part [TS]

01:12:26   of different little conspiracies and I [TS]

01:12:28   guess the premises you're on a coach [TS]

01:12:29   ride presumably to The Devil's castle [TS]

01:12:31   and your kind of struggling on the coach [TS]

01:12:33   for keys or goblets depending on which [TS]

01:12:36   secret society your part of so it's one [TS]

01:12:38   of these neat kind of like lying [TS]

01:12:40   attacking people kind of social card [TS]

01:12:42   games [TS]

01:12:43   some people don't like it because [TS]

01:12:44   there's you can't really do table talk [TS]

01:12:46   but that was another game that for [TS]

01:12:48   awhile i played incessantly that is a [TS]

01:12:51   card game so sorry [TS]

01:12:52   small world is a really great game where [TS]

01:12:56   you get to basically kind of pic fantasy [TS]

01:12:58   races and mix and match them with [TS]

01:12:59   different [TS]

01:13:00   power so it has a lot of replayability [TS]

01:13:01   and has expansions that add to that also [TS]

01:13:03   has a really excellent ipad app that you [TS]

01:13:05   can play [TS]

01:13:06   it's alright yeah dan and I have played [TS]

01:13:08   that a lot and that's that's probably [TS]

01:13:09   when you can play with kids as well [TS]

01:13:10   yes yes we come and the last one on my [TS]

01:13:13   list is Dominion which is very popular [TS]

01:13:16   it's a deck-building Game so you start [TS]

01:13:18   with this kind of grid of cards and you [TS]

01:13:20   start with basically just money to buy [TS]

01:13:21   cards that will hopefully get you points [TS]

01:13:24   and at this point doing is extremely [TS]

01:13:26   successful is I've lost track of how [TS]

01:13:27   many expansions that are I think I i [TS]

01:13:29   only have four of them and there's many [TS]

01:13:30   many more and there's a whole genre now [TS]

01:13:33   of deck building games and news not only [TS]

01:13:35   has dominion fantastic but Dominion [TS]

01:13:38   itself has so many different stacks of [TS]

01:13:41   cards in the in the initial box that [TS]

01:13:44   you're essentially getting variants [TS]

01:13:46   inside the box which i really like [TS]

01:13:48   because you know again and you know [TS]

01:13:50   that's yeah because replayability is yep [TS]

01:13:52   is something that people really like in [TS]

01:13:54   a game right there's there's that idea [TS]

01:13:55   of complexity building skill over time [TS]

01:13:57   but also that the game will be different [TS]

01:13:59   as opposed to kind of older old school [TS]

01:14:01   board games was kind of the same thing [TS]

01:14:02   over and over again so I think dominions [TS]

01:14:04   really exciting for that damn thats me [TS]

01:14:06   then we have several ones i had a mild [TS]

01:14:09   Scott mentioned for an island pandemic I [TS]

01:14:12   the other ones i was going to include [TS]

01:14:14   puerto rico we mentioned but no one [TS]

01:14:15   picked which I i think it was is a good [TS]

01:14:18   game racing together me with more [TS]

01:14:20   oppression [TS]

01:14:21   yeah wooden barrels and less space as a [TS]

01:14:24   kid I really wanted to play much more [TS]

01:14:27   than I ever got a chance to Scotland [TS]

01:14:28   Yard where you don't know where you can [TS]

01:14:31   find a copy of that mr. X and you're [TS]

01:14:34   like running around through through [TS]

01:14:36   London being pursued by you know police [TS]

01:14:39   basically and you surface every once [TS]

01:14:41   awhile but you have to take different [TS]

01:14:42   types of transportation and ways i [TS]

01:14:44   always thought it was such a cool [TS]

01:14:45   concept pandemic kind of uses that for [TS]

01:14:48   its bioterrorist expansion is very [TS]

01:14:49   similar games that i can't play anymore [TS]

01:14:52   with people certain people include the [TS]

01:14:54   resistance which is very much like a [TS]

01:14:57   coach on the castle where some of you [TS]

01:14:59   are spies among resistance cells and you [TS]

01:15:02   have to identify people who were the [TS]

01:15:04   spies by sending them on missions and [TS]

01:15:06   shadows over camelot working or playing [TS]

01:15:08   members of King Arthur's Court which is [TS]

01:15:10   very cool somewhat cooperative but there [TS]

01:15:12   is often a traitor within [TS]

01:15:13   miss midst but that's a fun game and [TS]

01:15:16   most recently another game i think that [TS]

01:15:20   that was created by one of Monty's [TS]

01:15:22   former employers Lords of Waterdeep [TS]

01:15:23   which is a dnd themed game worker [TS]

01:15:27   placement game that is super fun doesn't [TS]

01:15:29   really matter if you know anything about [TS]

01:15:31   the indie or not that's mostly kind of [TS]

01:15:32   the flavor but you basically are [TS]

01:15:33   collecting adventures sending them on [TS]

01:15:35   quests to do things and earning points [TS]

01:15:37   super fun there's great ipad app to the [TS]

01:15:40   castle ravenloft game plays just like [TS]

01:15:42   that but is horror D&D themed it's also [TS]

01:15:45   super fun while the Raven laughs games [TS]

01:15:47   more than actually like D&D words this [TS]

01:15:48   is more like a European is more like a [TS]

01:15:50   griddle or something like that you would [TS]

01:15:52   call it if your board game nerd a worker [TS]

01:15:54   place your place while adjusting the [TS]

01:15:56   location of the glasses on your nose [TS]

01:15:58   thank goodness what we're not because [TS]

01:16:00   people that would that's my list [TS]

01:16:02   terrible wow very nice [TS]

01:16:04   uh I'm going to mention ticket to ride [TS]

01:16:08   the the railroad baron the game where [TS]

01:16:14   you build also one of the nice things [TS]

01:16:16   about it is like a careers you don't [TS]

01:16:19   know what the goals are of the other [TS]

01:16:22   players [TS]

01:16:23   although if they're really really really [TS]

01:16:24   trying to get to Miami you may be [TS]

01:16:26   suspicious that they're trying to [TS]

01:16:27   connect l8r but that's a lot of fun and [TS]

01:16:31   the kids the kids love to play that game [TS]

01:16:32   and there's also a good ipad version of [TS]

01:16:34   that game i believe and the other two i [TS]

01:16:37   want to mention our old school because I [TS]

01:16:40   was going to mention a small world and [TS]

01:16:41   Dominion to those are great choices that [TS]

01:16:44   I was not going to mention the coach [TS]

01:16:46   right to the Devil's castle bells the [TS]

01:16:47   car driver [TS]

01:16:48   ya seen faster angry every time every [TS]

01:16:52   day beautiful language German so sooner [TS]

01:16:55   assits very i'm just not all the drama [TS]

01:16:59   happens on the coach right to the [TS]

01:17:00   Devil's castle then when you get you [TS]

01:17:02   never find out what happens at the [TS]

01:17:03   Devil's castle think I guess where the [TS]

01:17:06   Devil's castle now huge anti-climax its [TS]

01:17:09   left as an exercise for the reader and [TS]

01:17:11   for the record it's the couch fart [TS]

01:17:13   Eiffel spirk ok isn't our ok alright [TS]

01:17:16   we're going to do it wrong for a long [TS]

01:17:18   time the couch fucked your toy feliz [TS]

01:17:21   Burke you're saying it way too slow [TS]

01:17:23   yeah sorry it occurs right just over [TS]

01:17:25   there [TS]

01:17:26   uh the other the other old school games [TS]

01:17:31   i want to mention darktower I love ya [TS]

01:17:34   bitch its get the text that's exactly a [TS]

01:17:37   dark tower with a gay my friend who had [TS]

01:17:40   this game it was a computerized board [TS]

01:17:43   game where there was basically this [TS]

01:17:45   little plastic tower in the center and [TS]

01:17:47   you push buttons and it made like sounds [TS]

01:17:52   and display LED that will display a [TS]

01:17:54   number between 100 and 99 it was really [TS]

01:18:00   not very good but it was really exciting [TS]

01:18:02   because it was technology in a board [TS]

01:18:05   game and that was a big deal in the [TS]

01:18:08   early eighties and the commercial was [TS]

01:18:09   narrated by orson welles so you've got [TS]

01:18:11   this really exciting yeah that's when [TS]

01:18:13   you went dog towel [TS]

01:18:15   yeah oh yeah it's sold a lot of water [TS]

01:18:17   copies of that little plastic thing with [TS]

01:18:19   the number on this and that would kick [TS]

01:18:22   I'm just saying but anyway that was that [TS]

01:18:24   was quite a thing in the day and then [TS]

01:18:26   the other one i want to mention because [TS]

01:18:27   I have to because i had this game and it [TS]

01:18:30   wouldn't be uncomfortable if I didn't [TS]

01:18:32   mention it yes I had a copy of a board [TS]

01:18:35   game called the world of micronauts that [TS]

01:18:39   right there was a micronauts board game [TS]

01:18:42   i had it had little in at like a little [TS]

01:18:44   cardboard elevated center sort of like [TS]

01:18:46   the 3d chess on Star Trek so in addition [TS]

01:18:49   to the base level you can climb up [TS]

01:18:50   ladders to a second level and you need [TS]

01:18:52   to get to the villain who is on the [TS]

01:18:54   third level and defeat him and that also [TS]

01:18:56   meant that those those cardboard things [TS]

01:18:58   got been really easily and then you [TS]

01:19:00   could never play the game again that [TS]

01:19:01   like a commercial time for commercial [TS]

01:19:03   tie and then but even that the it was it [TS]

01:19:06   was not always came first and then a TV [TS]

01:19:08   show and then the board games have no [TS]

01:19:09   it's just a comic no TV show but this is [TS]

01:19:11   based on the based on the toys not the [TS]

01:19:13   comic based on always which were my [TS]

01:19:15   favorite toy [TS]

01:19:16   so the world micronauts it's out there [TS]

01:19:18   you can probably get one on ebay for [TS]

01:19:19   about two bucks but it will the [TS]

01:19:21   cardboard will be bent and you want [TS]

01:19:22   people to play it and be really [TS]

01:19:24   disappointing not that I would know [TS]

01:19:25   anything about that [TS]

01:19:28   that's it i think we did it I think we [TS]

01:19:31   played some board games now some so far [TS]

01:19:32   next trick we will just have to do [TS]

01:19:34   trivial pursuit on the Internet [TS]

01:19:36   w.e what we do or family feud frankly i [TS]

01:19:39   will move [TS]

01:19:40   three spaces counterclockwise Jason [TS]

01:19:42   spoiler that's just called NPR game [TS]

01:19:45   shows sorry [TS]

01:19:46   yeah I suppose so i suppose to board [TS]

01:19:49   games on the internet nobody would [TS]

01:19:50   listen to board games on the internet [TS]

01:19:51   that's yeah q700 you know you have to be [TS]

01:19:55   some kind of butter [TS]

01:19:58   yeah yeah well this was good this was [TS]

01:20:00   good i don't know whose idea this even [TS]

01:20:02   was but whoever it was was a genius or a [TS]

01:20:03   genus missing any weight [TS]

01:20:06   what that was me thanks Jason I've [TS]

01:20:09   always thought my ideas with the best [TS]

01:20:11   not like those crappy dan ideas like [TS]

01:20:13   America is quite right [TS]

01:20:14   you're not a genius you're a genius ya [TS]

01:20:17   better reference signal you've got it [TS]

01:20:19   you got it [TS]

01:20:20   alright i would like to thank my [TS]

01:20:22   panelists for this this trip into onto [TS]

01:20:25   that onto that table to play those board [TS]

01:20:27   games [TS]

01:20:28   Monty Ashley thank you you pick trivial [TS]

01:20:30   pursuit family feud from 1977 and risk [TS]

01:20:33   from 2210 ad thanks for being here glad [TS]

01:20:36   too i cover a wide range she really do [TS]

01:20:39   you really do it and I know who to come [TS]

01:20:41   to for trivia questions about trivia [TS]

01:20:45   cards and what we're on the cards [TS]

01:20:47   that's why I know you're that young [TS]

01:20:49   master Erica and sign I had no idea that [TS]

01:20:51   you worked at the game store your you [TS]

01:20:53   are you [TS]

01:20:54   you're a ringer you it's like not even [TS]

01:20:56   fair you just you destroyed us with [TS]

01:20:58   careers betrayal on house on the hill [TS]

01:21:01   and arkham horror which made Tony there [TS]

01:21:04   was some great yeah i actually forgot i [TS]

01:21:06   also had cosmic encounter around my my [TS]

01:21:07   quicklist which I mismatching soda [TS]

01:21:10   yeah yeah like some good games guys [TS]

01:21:13   the games are bad they're just two [TS]

01:21:17   different its potential sounds like me [TS]

01:21:19   that is not a mattress thing i've ever [TS]

01:21:21   heard Tony say I thought he was just [TS]

01:21:23   gonna say like poorly chosen so that you [TS]

01:21:26   don't [TS]

01:21:27   not bad i'm just different and that [TS]

01:21:29   should be my motto [TS]

01:21:31   you have to get to know Tony a lot [TS]

01:21:33   better before he starts insulting you to [TS]

01:21:34   your face [TS]

01:21:35   yes like two episodes yeah fair enough [TS]

01:21:40   David lord thank you for being here [TS]

01:21:42   monopoly poetry slam which nobody's ever [TS]

01:21:44   heard of and kill shakespeare which [TS]

01:21:46   isn't out yet but you got monopoly [TS]

01:21:48   you're coasting after that really [TS]

01:21:49   yeah you know I mean once you pick the [TS]

01:21:51   big one you just gonna go yeah let's [TS]

01:21:53   talk about / cracky yeah yeah but that's [TS]

01:21:56   like you gotyou got like you got like [TS]

01:21:59   park place and then you got like [TS]

01:22:00   oriental and baltic yeah and then i kept [TS]

01:22:04   leaning on income tax yeah 5025 that's [TS]

01:22:07   what you do yeah thanks for being here [TS]

01:22:10   sure damn more'n thank you sure [TS]

01:22:14   always a pleasure yeah clue seven [TS]

01:22:16   wonders risk legacy good choices all did [TS]

01:22:22   you let alottoni no one else is going to [TS]

01:22:25   say I like Tony sindelar be the judge of [TS]

01:22:27   that [TS]

01:22:28   Tony thank you for being here anytime [TS]

01:22:30   your request race for the galaxy and [TS]

01:22:34   settlers of catan doors and what [TS]

01:22:39   well there's me I don't want to thank [TS]

01:22:41   myself that would be strange places i [TS]

01:22:43   did a coloring thanks for driving us all [TS]

01:22:45   focus on Castle panic and sorry sorry [TS]

01:22:49   yeah yep and I'm really sorry are you [TS]

01:22:52   know and so everybody out there [TS]

01:22:54   listening to the incomparable podcast [TS]

01:22:56   what I'd like to do is say stay tuned [TS]

01:22:57   for our next big thing last year was [TS]

01:23:00   t-shirts this year [TS]

01:23:01   stay tuned for the incomparable board [TS]

01:23:03   game which isn't coming anywhere to any [TS]

01:23:06   for a card game [TS]

01:23:08   really that's what's gonna be it's a [TS]

01:23:10   board game where you build car it's a [TS]

01:23:12   card game where you form a board out of [TS]

01:23:14   I don't even know but until next time [TS]

01:23:17   that wraps up this edition of the [TS]

01:23:18   incomparable podcast thanks to everybody [TS]

01:23:20   out there for listening and I don't even [TS]

01:23:23   know what I'm saying anymore goodbye [TS]

01:23:27   you're gonna go on to thank everyone [TS]

01:23:32   again where i was i was cotton an [TS]

01:23:34   infinite loop Monty I had to break out [TS]

01:23:36   of it [TS]

01:23:36   hungry hungry hippos hungry hungry [TS]

01:23:38   hippos I have one final question from [TS]

01:23:40   the family feud game want to take us out [TS]

01:23:45   this read their name something the pause [TS]

01:23:48   is very important when you're being [TS]

01:23:49   Richard awesome name something you add [TS]

01:23:52   two scotch [TS]

01:23:54   there are four answers ice water soda [TS]

01:23:58   ice water and soda are the top three [TS]

01:24:02   sherry this tape no cream buoy will just [TS]

01:24:06   assume you've got three strikes the [TS]

01:24:08   fourth option according to a hundred [TS]

01:24:10   crazy people while six crazy people in [TS]

01:24:12   1977 burbank name something you had to [TS]

01:24:16   Scotch milk haha [TS]