Ep. 78: "Driving Lesson Costume"
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or don't get back
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I job hi Merlin has gone good i was just
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watching a gynecological comedy video
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for teen girls tampons tampons very
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important this is something I'm gonna
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have to learn more about don't forget
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dodged that bullet a little bit with
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those things you mean not being a girl
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yeah i think that every day b2b but but
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now that I have a daughter now I have to
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know things about things I don't know
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anything about it's so easy to fake it
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you know if you just get you know what I
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mean you don't need the most detailed
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topographical map to sound like you're a
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cartographer you know you know like a
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strong one
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you know the high land is high and the
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low lands are low i'll be in Scotland
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for you but I'm telling you now I'm
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gonna be no coverage is locked lemon but
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blocking open
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um you know my you know my experience of
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women's periods is coming to see you can
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you don't get to be my age without
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having some experiences caught riding
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dirty off of them
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oh my god first time ever don't you ever
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never hurt that I never die just little
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a coin that
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yeah but uh but I remember I remember
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the first time a guy told me in high
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school a guy you know confided in me
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that he had sex with a girl who was on
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her period and I was like what was that
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and he said kind of just the same which
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meant nothing to me except it's like
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sandpapery oh it's like rather than its
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rough there's a lot of extra there's to
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try to us he didn't use that word but
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now that's what he meant there's you
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know there's flotsam and so I was I was
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afraid of it for a long time and then I
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learned not to be afraid
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but it's pretty I think it's that is the
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guy version of having a period
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I mean the first time it happens your
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little bit startled you could have heard
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about having a period is having sex with
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a girl on her period is not a menstrual
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scientist but I you know I think the
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first time you you get the you know you
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get the katana out of the she treats you
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know what I mean I you know what let's
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move on and I'm just glad I didn't let
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me hear it because i don't think i don't
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think the guy version don't think you
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can say that the equivalent of having a
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period for a guy is having sex with a
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girl on her period that would be gender
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normative I think big the equivalent
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what is the equivalent for example
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clarinet and I'm sitting right now
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trying to figure out what that is
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once a month the moon comes around like
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a big pizza pie
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thank you and something in your changes
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and suddenly you are not open to advice
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suddenly you are made 45 you are fine
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hot baths and yelling everything is fine
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I don't know that happens to me all the
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time hot bats and yelling that's she
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just just just drew two sides of my
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trying to force your parade but I you
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know it's not an equivalent but that's
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that's the challenge really i don't know
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i mean you know it's something like a
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wet dream that's kind of a whole
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different deal
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I've never had one of those never had
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one of my life you never had one either
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nope yeah i'm sure they exist i don't
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believe they exist you think it's like
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the female orgasm like a mass hysteria
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it yeah it's like it's like the g-spot
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is sometimes right is my masters and
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johnson it's like snipe hunting up it's
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like yeah it's like you take a girl down
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to watch the submarine races
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absolutely but i'm saying you okay you
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get a boner you're having a dream of of
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a sexy time check then you just like
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scum all over your bed
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it seems impossible
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I have to tell you I i am very reluctant
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you know what I'm an older man now and
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I'm not as embarrassed about as many
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things right
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I and I'm just here to tell ya maybe i
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just got me my timing was impeccable and
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my slugging percentage was high because
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i never have experienced that no so
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you're saying your timing was impeccable
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in the sense that you became a man and
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then you immediately your slugging
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percentages I you immediately started
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putting it into girls you never had a
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period where you were just lying around
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i said where I've never had a period but
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here's here's the thing I my thinking is
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maybe if the timeline had been just a
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little bit different and i had become
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self-educated a little bit later maybe I
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would have busted a pool but i have
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never I've never busted a pool and you
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know I was aware of
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obviously we were all aware of Playboy
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magazines a long time before we knew
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what anything was it to me it was like a
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socket wrenches didn't know what to do
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with a playboy it was like here it is
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it's you mean you look at cartoons my
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friend can flip into the boobies and is
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what you read the cartoon you know what
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to do with the Playboy when you're eight
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years old you hide it to read the state
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there is nothing to hide
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yes thank you know you shouldn't have
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and that that is sexually exciting but
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uh I became aware of dirty movies I've
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told you about visions sure if this is
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the you have the crazy is an anchorage
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yeah the effect the crazy the crazy the
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crazy table with the dishes and that the
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crazy cable with the dishes and I
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software might the first time a dirty
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movie called the great Texas dynamite
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chase and I told you about this movie if
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you have forgotten the great Texas
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dynamite chase was a movie that was the
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first time I ever saw boobs in motion
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idea what it was it was one of those
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seventies kind of soft-core porno
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cinemax yeah that tried to have a plot
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but also had simulated sexual encounters
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and it was about a guy say I'm i haven't
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seen this movie since I was 10 years old
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but it was about this
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give me the high level and it was about
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a guy who was kind of like a Luke Duke
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above maybe it's more of a bo duke he
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was one of the Duke brothers type of guy
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and he was on the lam from the cops and
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he picked up two hitchhikers in Daisy
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Duke shorts and they went on a bank
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robbing spree or something and the cops
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were chasing them and they were and they
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use dynamite dynamite was their weapon
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that's right in your wheelhouse say what
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it was I was so excited i'm watching you
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know I put the channel that change the
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channel into that in between two
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channels thing where the cable dirty
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movies came in uh-huh and and here's
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this movie where this guy is driving
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around with these two beautiful girls
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and they are blowing shit up right and
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left blowing up cop cars blowing up
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cabins and then and then they have
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simulated sex and I knew what I wanted
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to do as a grown-up you need the English
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guy with the SEC case of mosca it but it
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never happened for me exactly like that
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the way I've never seen that movie sense
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but I room it's burned into my head
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the great Texas dynamite chase I don't
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even I don't think it's like one of the
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great films i have but i haven't even
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got on netflix to see if it's there just
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netflix have dirty movies IE now in a
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nuanced way they don't they don't have
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like canonically dirty movies you know a
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lot of that stuff it's like the old
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kinescope so the doctor who's that they
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the doctor homes that they threw away
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like this last of you just can't get any
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more like rights iic for me
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we there was this this wonderful window
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next 82 or so I don't know how this
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happened cause we were not a wealthy
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family but we had cable with showtime
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and HBO I things like fifteen dollars a
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month right what happened to UNM TV
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yeah but I'm you know so you saw some
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simulated sex is most well yeah most
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importantly that is that's what you so
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much the stuff we talked about stuff to
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talk about everybody got burned on my
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brain that's where that's where stripes
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alright I'll show escape from new york
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likely have been hell I mean that all
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got so I alien-like movies i would just
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watched literally six times
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in a month circles they were they were
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just on instrumentation and then you
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know there's always that you know the
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joke like cinemax after dark or whatever
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but they're truly used to be something
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that was actually show time after dark
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but anyway the point was that there
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would be the kinds of movies are talking
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about and for me there my camera would
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pan down and they would be having the
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sex and they be panning down and you'll
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be like I'm about to see it i'm about to
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see some and then it would like to
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frustrate you
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yeah that would cut to like some flowers
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wilting in a meal like where's the
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dynamite you're like who's there who's
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the direct first of all who is our
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director he didn't know which he forgets
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seems like you need that needs to be if
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you're going to cut at least cut to a
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locomotive calamity that might as well
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have been get the flu like I know what's
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down there
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no that's the problem i'm like i'm going
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to see I'm gonna see a minute's like
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there's so many movies they make you
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watch in school but they're all like
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like lineart cross-sections it's like
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I've never seen a woman with like a
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cross-section fallopian tube and I
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couldn't locate that on a body you know
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what I mean all those reptilian oh now
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really because you know I was
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alternative rock I think you have to
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learn stuff but for the g-spots down the
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team know what I mean you're looking for
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a g-spot you find a bunch of other stuff
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that's a good point
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you know you know how there's the the
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bit like the the cliché in like
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standard shitty porn movies is like oh
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it's a pizza delivery man or the cable
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guy I'm here to fix dining table talking
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about cliche but that's I mean I think
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that's how have the babies are made in
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America still have you know it'sit's top
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turns out because of all the people
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canceling cable the birth rate is
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plummeting pizza not popular but I mean
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I hated to leave a diner gluten-free
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option but the the problem the way we
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are we are touching on a major problem
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for me in my mind which is that in you
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and I have both have this problem and
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you are in advance of me in being a
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father of a daughter and my whole life
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you know women have been the very
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confusing
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they've been some people that I admire
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they've been paid some people that I
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have at you know I haven't angle moments
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with talk they talk to some of them I
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talk to them occasionally they objectify
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them all the time
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can find on IMDb i think it was called
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told you the story but when I'm when my
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mama lady got you know in that way her
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family through as a little yeah so what
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you got softball
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hi Daddy title we hear they threw us a
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wonderful baby shower up in rhode island
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of my favorite family members my brother
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want one of my brother-in-law's this is
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yeah he's like enjoy it while you can my
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cat hey John how's it going
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awesome he's like a successful lawyer
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thing is though this guy is part of so
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my wife is the youngest of seven but
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like all of her older brothers and
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sisters you know and this is not about
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this is about the Fleetwood
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magnification of the nineteen seventies
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they should all be fucking dead sure you
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guys are now worried about like taking
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photos of your couch
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yeah and they were permanently drunk
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it's true but you don't remember about
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shit you know you'd roll up a big fat
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doobie weed smoke at all day and maybe
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you'd feel a little irie it's not like
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the hardcore today and I have never felt
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I read but you're absolutely right i
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mean how are you going to survive the 71
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really talked about dodging a bullet
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like you know we're from the time i
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don't know if it is at your school but
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it was when like around the time like my
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sophomore year drunk driving was like
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the cause celeb rather than drag like a
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the dare
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campaigns on on campus sure they bring a
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reference call her right right we had to
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what was left of him you know but I'm
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serious it's anyway I I worry about that
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for them a selfish reason which is i'm
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not sure how I will handle it and yet I
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feel like you know there's not that much
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you can do about it you try to equip a
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kid to not be a dumb shit but you know
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guy who's now an extremely successful
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personal liability lawyer is worried
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about my daughter's future when he was
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out there like literally drinking a case
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well i mean i'm going to equip my
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daughter with flamethrowers but but what
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massive quantities of drugs and alcohol
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all the time and unsupervised Lee like
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driving muscle cars which you know that
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which cannot turn once they're moving in
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a straight line i was driving the muscle
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cars hundred twenty miles an hour with
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the headlights off and other wonderful
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things that characterize the eighties we
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about sex even after the sexual
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revolution i mean at least I feel like
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whole panoply of sex
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from first personal experience not but
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lets the elephant in the room is herpes
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an 818 from the time from time junior
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herpes became a thing there they knew
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all you need to know about like I I feel
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like I think more about herpes and I
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knew about vaginas
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all I knew was there was this thing was
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going to happen to you they're gonna
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fuck you up for the rest of your life
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only now by the way aids right and
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herpes was herpes basically made a like
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10 really painful vaginas on your penis
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that was what herpes did it made little
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bit little little burning vaginas all
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over your holiday a deck i know and the
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maids and if it is gonna get no we
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didn't know what cost anyway I i agree
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with you it's another one of those
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things that like skipped a generation if
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you look at but the kids the kids with
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the pictures of their of their a of
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their nakedness well just let Stephen
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just say nakedness let's just say like
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like like even to even girls take
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teenage girls taking pictures of their
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brows like they take a selfie in a
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beginner I I mean this is not a thing
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that i am happy about as a father I
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wanna get I'm gonna be terrible at we
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were downtown last week and my daughter
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was wearing her spider-man hoodie and I
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corrected 3i angrily corrected three
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different people go
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hey spider-girl like fuck you it's
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spider-man ask all a spider's better
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girls awesome i will especially one
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better than the other but like but you
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know at least spider-woman like but like
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you know she's spider-man but let her be
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spider-man that's fine right stop being
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so gender normative is what your
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homemade t-shirt should say that's a
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question about selfies yes of course i
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know a lot about them ok there's a lot
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of pitches ladies taking pictures in the
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bathroom right
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why did they look at the screen instead
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of the lens they this is the
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it's just as you know they take because
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you know they're taking more than one
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you look at livejournal days you take
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six or 15 and you do the one with the
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least meet beard and that's the one you
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put up right so the fact that they're
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taking 10 probably but but like why
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can't you just get like tap to like it
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the focus and then look at the lens like
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a gentleman
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no but this is the problem because girls
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of that generation if they look at
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themselves in the mirror they
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automatically make a duck face and so
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you don't want a duck face picture no
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matter what and so looking at the
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looking at the little screen seeing
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yourself at one remove your like somehow
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it breaks the duckface spell it's if I
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were the kind of person that's still
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read roll-on borrow like I would think
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about this a lot because like the whole
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act of taking a photo of yourself in a
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mirror like as a thing I mean you can
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almost like you could take 500 selfies
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adjust them for size and they would
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basically be exactly the same silhouette
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you don't mean they look pretty much
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exactly the same except my cosplay of
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the boobs and they're always looking at
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the screen
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yeah my feeling about my feeling about
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selfies taken out of context is that
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they're meaningless out of context and
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that in fact the point of a selfie is
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never the photograph itself but it is it
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is how it is that it is happening in
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real time and that the person it who is
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sending you this picture you know is at
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that moment somewhere across town or
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across the world getting naked for you
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oh it's intimate and timely right so so
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the picture itself is kind of us the
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it's what if you go back and look at
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them later
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it's like oh this is actually kind of
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not a very good picture and that's kinda
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now it's not happening when you're
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turning in your papers late
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we're like it's a kind of way of saying
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like yeah but you don't mean like I
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think it's a form of procrastination
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where you could say like well I could
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have done better if I had another week
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but I did it all like it as an
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all-nighter in this case when I was in a
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fucking bathroom of course I look like
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yeah but i but I really think like in
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moments in the immediate moment of a
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sexual exchange / texting
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the point is just that the point is that
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it is a form of communication not an
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actual form of pornography which is why
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taking those pictures out of context and
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sharing them on 4chan is like you still
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looking at that is his to I mean I have
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to I have to maintain my relationships
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with my online community this is your P
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towns in Alcatraz there because well
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it's not just there's the star trek
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forums it's a lot of forums i have to
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you know it's takes up half my day some
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little bit of light consulting for an
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independent record label a few years ago
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interesting one of the things that I
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said to them was at the time when
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something like this would sound slightly
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profound and rather than just merely
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obvious today which is that to
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understand most people on the internet
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it's it's useful to understand
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instead of thinking about things in
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terms of like what it is you have to
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sell it's useful to remember that
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everybody out there is grooming a new
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version of their personality in real
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time in front of people that the it you
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know in order to really understand like
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how people use the internet or with the
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time myspace was really big
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you can get those horrible pages with
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the flashing things and the dancing
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bananas and all of that and every single
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bit of bling on that page was about a
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brand association of some kind it was
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about any of it wasn't like coca-cola it
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was a way of saying i align myself with
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this and it's like how do you how do you
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make yourself kind of person on the kind
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of company that somebody would want to
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align themselves with and I believe that
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more than every day it's like there's so
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much branding and you know itself is a
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good way to brand just saying I today I
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you know I'm looking for an old suburban
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this is Ida sake is like a wet out
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no you know what is really really shy
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right now I'm looking for a guy with the
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rake and my friend you're mrs. Nelson
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and I commitment
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no I've decided you know I've been
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looking at classic cars on the internet
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for 15 years before there even was an
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internet and and I realized the other
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driving down the road somewhere in some
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rental car and some guy blew past me in
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a you know an austin-healey and I said
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I'm not getting any younger
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like I am already over the threshold
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where it's over i'm no longer a young
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guy in a hot car i'm i'm already a
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middle-aged guy in a hot car and I don't
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even have a hot car yet and what I don't
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want to be is one of these guys ahead
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little you know that that looks like a
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looks like what's the guy that says
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diabeetus but that's not what is a
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little friendly well for Brimley I don't
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like Wilford Brimley in a in a hot car
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you see those guys all the time where
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you are driving up here like wow nice
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camaro and then you can set its a 76
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year old guy with diabetes and like
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you're gonna die in that car so you know
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because you keep I keep because of
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because it grew up in that era I keep
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thinking that the only guys driving
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around in in cars with Cragar rims or
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like like any kind of car with SS on the
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back you're going to get up next to him
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it's going to be a guy with the duck
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tail and a pack of cigarettes rolled
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that's going to be Harrison Ford or
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possibly Matthew McConaughey yeah right
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and then you get a hit up next to him
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it's all these days just decaying
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corpses
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I don't want to be that guy but I've
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been looking at classic cars for so long
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like I've lost have somehow lost the
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ability to choose so I decided the other
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day I want a classic suburban those
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things are so big big four-wheel-drive
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suburban and write my taste in suburban
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is very specific i want a
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three-quarter-ton superb and I'm not
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going to bore you with this mono I want
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to hear three-quarter-ton
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four-wheel-drive suburban between the
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years I mean there's and there's two
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different body styles i like the the
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late sixties early seventies Suburbans
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just that you found a hobby they only
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have three doors but it's been three
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very cool doors and then I also like
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that the the mid-seventies Suburbans the
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first ones i found what 7279
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anyway the problem with loving these
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cars is that they were flogged to death
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by people you know like you didn't buy
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one of these suburban and polish it and
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keep it in your garage you went and
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joined the Forest Service or you went
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and took it to to treat it nom like it
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worked a treat nam-gu went to out to
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fucking nowhere land and but you can use
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it for real actual stuff would really
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use it for real actual stuff and then
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the thing would the at the exact moment
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that the rust ate it from within
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it also would fall apart from outside
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and it would just be a pile of dust so
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there are very few of these things left
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all by way of saying today I was sitting
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at home and I was like I wonder if
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somebody just owns the URL old suburban
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dot-com and so I typed in old suburban
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dot-com because I am an old man i didn't
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put in up to the URL bar I actually
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typed old suburban dot-com into google
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and uh and the first couple of sites
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that came up that weren't pay
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advertisements i clicked on the first
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one and it took me to a site that had
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not been updated since 2000 1000
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literally had dancing bananas
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wow you finally had time capsule and
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like little flat like little animated
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flash it's a last updated on the page it
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did was it said like you know this site
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was constructed in june of 1999 last
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updated her looks down at the bottom
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yeah little counter and if the site was
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so hard so hard to even be there was it
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was it was it wasn't just that it was
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hard to navigate or understand it was
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impossible to do either thing but it was
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hard even to be there with all these
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little things moving and the cool-blue
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little hole little question marks and
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things written in complexing lights
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under construction
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yeah and it was it was like oh shit
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that's right that used to be the
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internet everywhere you went
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I always figured figured that if I have
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really I i get involved in this site
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because I find it hard to look at too
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not just visually but like my mind races
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because i'm a story guy like there's
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always I mean
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the story so first of all I figure the
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person's dead right and nobody it's
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probably like an act like a university
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account like it's taking up almost no
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space there's zero bandwidth and like
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it's like you know at Ile de suburban
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guy PhD and you know he's been dead he's
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been dead from heart disease since nine
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eleven like nobody-nobody is updating
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the site and its and i always think of
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like oh my god I'm gonna find typos and
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there's gonna be no way to fix them
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it's it up it's a horrible horrible
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feeling our next door neighbor when I
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was a kid had a suburban and it and this
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is that we had a house you know this is
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in the seventies it was an old house but
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like this thing barely fit in the
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driveway it was so good
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yeah yeah it was it was all it was
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almost like a bus
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yeah Mike my friend Kevin had a suburban
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in the very early eighties and it was
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school bus yellow and he was just a
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little teenage kid units to 16 year old
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kid and we would go out in that suburban
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and he had by the time he was 16 years
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old he had such control over this
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vehicle we would be speeding along down
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the street in Anchorage and they would
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have pleaded they would have kind of
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plowed the snow into a center berm that
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sometimes was four feet tall snow
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between the lanes of traffic and Kevin
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could you know at 60 miles an hour
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pop the suburban up high Center it on
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this snow berm kick on the summer you
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know it had the the emergency brake was
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it was a pedal on my where would be
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where clutch would be right on the
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emergency brake and flip the suburban
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around like it was pure wedding like a
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ballerina all four tires
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you know going in different directions
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and he could balance the suburban on its
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front bumper
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he wasn't he was incredible in this
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truck and I remember writing you know in
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the passenger seat and this was before
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any of us ever wore seat belts either so
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we're sliding around like ball bearings
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and just thinking like this is the
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greatest it is great to be an American
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this is the greatest time to be alive
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we are listening to the Scorpions we are
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driving the suburban it and and no one
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can stop us we are we are driving the
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suburban like the Millennium Falcon and
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I think it's stuck in me and now I'm
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having a midlife crisis nama in my
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forties and i wanted i want to get that
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suburban exactly that suburban and just
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drive around this is your lolita it is
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my lowly I want that big freaking truck
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this you know this is something I was to
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the gallon of all the idiotic things
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that you could do and there are really
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literally so many this is a good one
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i mean it's it's probably pretty safe
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for his for a car from the seventies I'm
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not gonna run right here this is the GMC
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carryall i love this level but the
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problem is there's a lot of
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two-wheel-drive ones out there and I
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don't want two wheel drive truck can get
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well you get a v8 in this oh yeah oh
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brother you can option those already
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speed manual four-speed manual power
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glide and turbo hydra-matic I just want
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to put the turbo hydra-matic at that
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sounds nice so nice transmission I gotta
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say this thing is gorgeous you should
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John you should do it i can't just give
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you a suggestion
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yeah two directions not number number
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two you just get a suburban I mean it
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can't cost that much you know if it
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doesn't work out get another one right
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now you're right you're right
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the other 1i number 1 i've talked about
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this my friend chris from college had an
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austin-healey sprite you know you would
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look great
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you would look so large an austin-healey
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sprite yeah you know I'm actually
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partial to the big he leaves rather than
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the little healing is a model and that
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would be what he called you know that
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you like the 100 put in as almost you
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died in where he died in Paul McCartney
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die thought you died in a Volkswagen
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Beetle please mind the core native would
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have been yeah okay
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God these are handsome cars yeah they
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are and the big Healy's are are like
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their proper like a sprite i think i
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would it would be a little clown car but
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a big deal i would be I'd be feeling
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very strongly like it was like being in
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a mountain dew can one time and sarah
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said we're at a light and and we're
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lower than like a driver side window and
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increased says a you see that yamaha
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over there
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oh yeah I guess that's got a bigger
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engine this haha
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and and the the big healing though we
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don't start it we can just push start at
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any time they have any here they have
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like six cylinder motors and they're
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still not that bigger car but they're so
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like they're so deadly
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yeah they don't all have six cylinder
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but that but anyway those cars now are
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priced like ice I was driving down the
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road not very long ago and I saw kid who
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had to be in high school still 17 years
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old driving an austin-healey 3000 with
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his high school girlfriend sitting next
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to him and their hair blowing in the
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wind and you know that his father is
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some kind of criminal defense attorney
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or worse and they live in a big house
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with a water ski boat parked out front
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because it's a little waterfront house
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and he's driving this austin-healey to
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town because his dad threw the keys and
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said you know go crazy junior prom or
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whatever and I really wanted to run this
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kid off the road it it it just wasn't
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it was thinking that frustrating some
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90210 shit that shouldn't happen in
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seattle and typically I don't allow it
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but yeah you know I think that's the
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kind of thing you should you should you
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should be on top of that there's a I you
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know had you know John trying to grow as
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a person and I'm stamp set aside I say I
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say leave it to the shot in Florida
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leash a little bit but dad there's a
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tumblr i follow called i think it's
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called rich kids on Instagram actually
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sent somebody sent me a link to that
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back when I was I was I was making it my
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thing to tweet everyone 'so i like
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nobody has it easy it
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life life is hard for everybody like
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stop stop thinking that anybody is right
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everyone has their reasons
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hotel window right like everybody's got
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a tragedy
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anything and people were like no
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instagram tumblr where they're all these
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you know smug little twerps taking
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pictures of themselves and their dad's
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plane and I and I i spent a 20 minutes
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on that thing and i was like i never saw
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so many miserable people in my life
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yeah I mean it's like these kids like
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check out my watch or whatever and like
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oh my god you can
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yeah i saw today we're in three watches
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lonely than being unsympathetic well no
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problem
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that's exactly what the problem is is
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you would hesitate to go well I
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playgroups it's true it sucks to be
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unsympathetic it's called a first-world
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problem or white wine like know
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everybody does have the problem that i'm
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trying to side with the bro last guy to
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white wine whi and he is and not mine
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that's not mine
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white wine pretty good huh or they
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really um I saw one of a guy I think it
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was a selfie or maybe he had his his
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black man take it for him but it was him
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in bed with three different bottles of
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like like magnums of costly brands of
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champagne like you don't need to get a
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fake nap with them
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oh yeah yeah oh yeah he's having a great
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time back guys ladies really he's doing
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nothing wrong with that guy could not be
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solved by a couple good ass kickings oh
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yeah i mean i can't help but think that
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that there is no one on Instagram that
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is really living a good life i tried it
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try to create it like now when I tried
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it twice
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I tried twice rate that you can see also
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independent label consulting like it boy
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talk about like a tradition of your life
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birds on a telephone wire do we need
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wow I'm increasingly feeling like I've
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always felt like I lived somewhat in a
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ghetto of a certain kind of people a
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certain kind of thinker being like
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associated with the university wearing a
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guitar well after you are a problem but
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but now my life on the internet I I'm
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really seeing the borders of it and
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realizing that
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oh I'm not sure that this i'm not sure
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that this is the enlightened and
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beautiful capital of of futuretown that
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everybody here thinks it is it feels a
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little bit it feels like a bunch of as
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kurt vonnegut said a bunch of bacteria
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drowning in their own shit and and not
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realizing that they're making champagne
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i don't i don't know if if if the
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internet is positive
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Merlin don't know this but i don't i'm
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not sure right now if it is positive
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they did it and that is if you'll
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forgive me a net positive but it is a
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net positive I've got my eye I imagine
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the internet the first time I heard
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about it back in the late eighties write
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songs about in 2008 you told me about
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you to use you specifically told me
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about the actual internet in 2008 but
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when somebody when when when somebody
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first whispered in my ear
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the idea of the internet you know I
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imagine just as every futurist imagined
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like the sum total of human knowledge
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right I a free and completely free and
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neutral space where everywhere
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intelligences can mix with one another
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unencumbered by their life like their
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physical attributes are unencumbered by
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their class electron but a library like
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it would be this completely blank space
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where it is pure
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white desert where like like it could
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all be fresh and new and intelligent
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right tron library
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exactly and now it seems more like kind
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of a swap meet at an old drive in the
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old driving where there are a lot of
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people playing like a three-card Monte
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hovering a billboard the the flying
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billboard from Blade Runner maybe like
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Minority Report like all the ads are
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yelling at you can yeah the the ads are
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yelling at you that's right that's
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exactly you have a sense of I think this
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is a very interesting thing up
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although we try to avoid talking about
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the internet what was there something
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specific that you came across well
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certain movement
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bit it's like the yelling chamber like I
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feel it in your and my conversations in
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the sense that i have i have always been
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of the kind of like the kind of
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institutional radicalism that
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characterizes the left right so so you
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you want to disassociate yourself with
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people on the Left who are saying that
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we you know that that cutter that
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Christopher Columbus's it was it was a
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genocide of maniac or whatever you want
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to say alright alright alright alright
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we weave weave all we've all read it but
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it doesn't make it true because somebody
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wrote it and like that that kind of that
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kind of like the the hyper righteousness
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of the edge does a lot of it does a lot
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of work of pushing the boundary but it
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also do values the inside you know the
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the middle fringe
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which you know which is actually like
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getting work done but the problem now is
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that that on the internet if you if you
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take a stand anywhere against the fringe
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you are positive immediately as a member
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of the opposite fringe you know where
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there's no like the nuances getting
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beaten out of everywhere except in these
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little pockets like like you like on
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Matt Howie's site or whenever there are
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places where people are talking but they
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increasingly feel like little domes of
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silence where like a very few people
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walk in they check their their swords
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and their pistols at the door and they
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say for the amount of further for the
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time that i'm going to be here
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I agree to these rules of decorum and i
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agree not to tell not to call anyone a
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Hitler or a baby raper not to write in
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all caps and i'm going to do and i'm
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going to agree to that here while i'm
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here in this protected space but the
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rest of the top the rest of the internet
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and everywhere you go
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because because you you follow a news
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story you end up on a new site it's
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talking about you know all this funny
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lady she rescues bats for a living and
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you're like I watched the video and this
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lady is rescuing bats how cute
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then you scroll them you make the
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mistake of scrolling down and the first
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comment says if it wasn't for Obamacare
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bats wouldn't get sick
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nice bat your shirt from gap was made by
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children and they might be just and then
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you check-in there's 1500 comments down
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on thumb and your hand and you just feel
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like there is unless i am prepared to go
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into an ivory tower somewhere on the
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internet to talk to people
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there's nowhere to be where where it
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isn't just what we're not so you're not
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oscillating between like clickbait news
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item pop-up ad people screaming at each
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other about at ignorant people screaming
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ignorantly at one another and and making
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people ignorant
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charge to come in that's like that's
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like that's like the two asshole minimum
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like to get in you've got to be willing
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possible but what I found was I was
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normal life and I was kind of wrestling
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with feeling like I was at the age of 44
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i was at a point in my own life where
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we're a natural kind of conservatism is
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starting to enter my thinking you know
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the the famous adage of like if you're
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not a liberal when you're a young man
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you have no heart and if you're not a
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conservative when you're an old man you
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have no brain Churchill thank you
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and so this natural kind of conservatism
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that comes into your life when you're in
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your mid forties where you just have
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seen enough and you look around you go
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yeah alright kid but but really here's
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how life works and you know it you start
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to you start to feel like you're you're
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so much you start to appreciate a little
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bit of quiet and a little bit of comfort
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stereos are too loud
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quality of middle-aged that I think you
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need to resist you need to resist the
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this inexorable ility of of feeling like
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building up a tolerance fence and as I'm
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talking to myself and I'm resisting my
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own my own natural serve trend to
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personal conservatism
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internet in my mind and I'm arguing with
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myself in the voice of these internet
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templates and I kind of jump back out of
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myself and I say I reject this I reject
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this model I am NOT it is it it is not a
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simple matter of either being like uh
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you you cannot accuse everyone of
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classism or racism or sexism who doesn't
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conform to the most radical
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interpretation of any scenario there is
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a middle that is that is like really
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where we should all aspire to be and a
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own aging and I went oh there's it's a
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bad influence
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like legit like it'sit's unintentionally
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kind of slightly reshaped your the way
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these things
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given that template that the term
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templates or is a really interesting
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idea cuz what is a template template is
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an easy way to get started on something
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that could be complicated and and the
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more you use that template over and over
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you people here using that template or
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just using that that form a lot it's you
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know it's not unusual at all I mean if
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you go if you go off for a weekend with
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your buddies and start seeing you know
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cocksucker motherfucker a lot over and
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over and over like you keep saying that
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thinking oh this is a thing I should
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photograph and post will be another
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lightweight example but rusted starting
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to change the way we think a little bit
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yeah then you don't see things except in
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terms of all I wish I had my camera i
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wish i could photograph that post but
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like people are not rewarded in on the
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internet they are not rewarded for
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having middle-middle opinions middlebrow
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views or middle middle work opinions you
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know no one is rewarded for compromise
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or for trying to see both sides of the
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story that is a thing that we all agree
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the person that's like can't we all get
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along or let's let's look at both sides
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of this that person is shouted down
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immediately and it and the effectiveness
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with them always the most interesting
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part think about literature think about
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my energy I'm sorry but like any
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literature movies anything the most
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interesting part is always that surprise
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of like a character somebody who learns
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a little bit about themselves and that's
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what a story is a story is something
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learned something about the character of
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the person by how they handled an
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impossible challenge and sometimes that
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means really changing your idea about
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something that that's what a story is
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the only king olaf's brand in any the to
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be the person who is like who the the
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character in a novel who is for the most
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part totally disagreeable maybe even
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evil but they have a redeeming quality
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and that's enough
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you know that's often enough to make a
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story and to make a and to make the
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world go round almost and I and I feel
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like I feel like what what the internet
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is doing is it is it is rewarding people
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for extremism in very subtle ways and it
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is depriving people of the natural
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reward they should be feeling when they
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say hey actually I kind of see both
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sides of this and in the past like
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that's how civilization got built people
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would get to a certain age they go
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actually I kind of see the other side a
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little bit now and everyone who everyone
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would stroke their chins and take
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another puff on their pipes
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and maybe they would resolve that
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property difference or maybe they would
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resolve the the you know the question of
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whether the beer is 22 hobby or whatever
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it is the problem that primitive people
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had and now we're where we've created
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this place where it's like this is where
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we're going to invest our time this is
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where we're going to invest our
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intellectual energy and and the
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combination of anonymity and the and
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distance from one another no physical
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consequences no risk of a punch in the
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we're creating a human environment where
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radicalism is rewarded and that is gonna
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have disastrous consequences
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I i agree and part of the problem and I
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will literally beg yeah that's get me
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started on this but that extremism and
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that radicalism the problem with that is
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that it doesn't have a cost and so I've
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been taken to task by many many
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good-hearted people for saying that like
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Martin Luther King would never have had
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an impact if he if he said I mean
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fucking Cheetos and typing on Twitter or
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asking people support his fucking fun
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run it out there and he threw himself
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you know on the levers for you so well
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yeah I mean that's I mean and that is
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another kind of extremity but i'll just
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take the one tiny point that will be
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hopefully tweetable is is that the the
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problem with the ex extremism and
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radicalism is it doesn't cost anything
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yeah and you still get to get your
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ribbon for being the fucking you know
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che guevara a hundred and forty
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characters even though you haven't
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really done anything and and you get to
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sit there and then now you get to be
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some kind of like a sniper character
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trying to like pluck out people on the
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other side of the of the DMZ who don't
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agree with you and any say entrenched
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and there's nothing to be gained by
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either developing a more nuanced or
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intelligent argument and like the kind
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of problem that used to be mostly
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restricted to pro wrestling and congress
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now goes everywhere because if this
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permanent state of identifying and
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getting this personal branding I hate
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that word but it's true
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it's kind of personal branding based on
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which kind of sniper you've decided to
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be and who you decided to pick off and
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who you high-five for get a shot off
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well and it is a fucking thing I've
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found just personally I've noticed that
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it d values to the those instances where
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set where somebody does really jump up
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and say something radical because
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they're immediately like dismissed as a
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so just personally I'm i am at a turning
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point in my life where I am having to
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say to myself on a kind of daily basis
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there is there there's all the everyday
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there's some reason why I feel like what
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I feel like the easy path in middle age
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is to confirm stereotypes confirm biases
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I feel like I feel like your experience
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your heart your hard-won experience
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allows you to not you know not be
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tolerant i guess and that that the
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u-turn a certain point no matter what
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your your proclivities are where you
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feel like I don't want to be I don't
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want to be taken advantage of any more I
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don't want to be a Rube I'm I don't want
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to be a fool and that inevitably causes
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a certain hard name you no longer give
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money to panhandlers where you once did
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you no longer roll your window down to a
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guy running up on the street with a
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broken fan belt you know it's a it's a
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it's a it's a gradual process i haven't
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I i have done nothing but laugh in the
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face of anyone who approaches me holding
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a fan belt for 15 years but but
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increasingly like a this is this kind of
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this battle and fighting against myself
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in in the just the kind of creeping
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transition toward comfort away from
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struggle and and struggle rewards you in
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ways that comfort cannot and struggle
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requires that you not succumb to cliché
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that you not succumb to stereotype and
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you and that is increasingly difficult
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as John Hodgman is fond of saying you
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cannot run as fast as you did when you
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were 20 nor can you think as fast as you
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did when you were 20 and so it's it's
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additional work to wake up in the
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morning and say i am going to i'm going
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to approach every person as an
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individual today and I'm gonna take on
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these scenarios i think i know the
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answer to already and it think you know
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increasingly I find my online life is
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not especially helpful and then
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well I part of the problem I you know
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I'm reluctant at this point is to say
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the internet as a medium because its
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series of media crap but in in addition
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I wanna go back to that but i think if I
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was on metafilter exclusively male many
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filters no bargain sometimes I mean
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there's there's no there's a lot of to
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quote the the great drunk
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John Wayne during his Stanford
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commencement speech i say i didn't say
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that for clapping haha never heard that
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that's liberties at their worst John
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Wayne's three sheets to the wind hire
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out these kids and
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yeah definitely Stanford can happen
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before you get the run time that the
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active occupied columbia for the the
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guys in like defecating in drawer
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hi yeah I'm not saying that for clapping
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the problem is the problem is that
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radicalism extremism doesn't cost
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anything but empathy is expensive
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because empathy toward any body empathy
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doesn't mean you agree with somebody it
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means you like feel for them a little
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bit like you understand you enter it
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like you want to understand that there
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another human being that doesn't make
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your pussy to say that that that means
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being an adult
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yeah but most of the time it takes 10
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extra minutes out of your day but that's
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not getting back to the medium in a
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minute but but i think i think part of
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the problem is that I mean I'll speak
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for myself
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you've had a pretty flawless life so you
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won't appreciate this but like I make so
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many fucking mistakes every day I i
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mis-read things i do dumb shit i get mad
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at the wrong person ID so much dumb
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stuff every day that it's made me on a
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good day little bit more empathetic
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about how everybody has those days or
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decades but that doesn't that doesn't
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get you any three pointers on the
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internet that does not get you a thumb
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you know and and the to the medium part
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i'm tempted to bring up a real Godwin's
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law here in the sense of pro-wrestling
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like the name your favorite pro wrestler
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who took 15 minutes to really explain
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things in a way that we can all
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understand even if we didn't agree with
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it now you like you like Ric Flair or
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you like Ricky the dragon steamboat I
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personally did not like Ric Flair yeah
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now-now I he was he was part of a
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different tradition for me i would love
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to talk about wrestling but but to me
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that's I mean thatthat so that's a
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careless of 35 year old analogy but i
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think it's true i mean i think you've
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got to pick your side like are you going
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to be a face or you're going to be a
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heel and then like you know who we gonna
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team up with who you gonna cheer for and
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he got hit with a fucking folding chair
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the most subtle environment you know
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metafilter whatever i going to
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metafilter sometimes I don't look at it
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like I used to because it has gotten way
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to me and snarky and I will go in and
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just look at like most favorited posts
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and that will be twice a month I'm going
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to nothing it's matt it's just that it's
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it's too big
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they've lost that sense of of personhood
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we're all in our own little car honking
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horns of people because of like a
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millisecond you know miss decision on
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their part which I'm guilty of which i'm
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going to you but I mean like do you want
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to get better at that or or do you want
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to get loud horn that you have a problem
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i mean as you get older it's almost like
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you know you imagine that you're
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chilling at the Churchill quote was I
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honestly did not look this up but it's
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something like anyone any man is not a
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liberal by the time he's 25 is
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hard-hearted any man is not a
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conservative by the time he's 40 is
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soft-headed something like that yeah
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that's what it looks like there's
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something to look at while know what I
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conservative it's just that I've seen a
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whole lot of your radical ideas I seen
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because they were Radical that they work
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it's because they were the right
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solution at the right time
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yeah and-and-and the louder horn does
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not make you a more persuasive driver he
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I'm just saying like trying to settle
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this shit 240 characters at a time is
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not a great place to try and settle it
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did you read questlove's SI no on the
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Trayvon Martin case no but I well
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getting a card is from the tribe called
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quest quest llano is the routines roots
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everybody plays on the Jimmy Carson show
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talking about the never not funny
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here ok but so he he writes this very
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thoughtful personal essay in the style
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of someone who is just who is simply
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saying here's how it is for me like and
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just a personal and touching anecdotes
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comment really at all except that at the
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personal essay that I that I read and
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gigantic afro and his his success and
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his fame and the fact that he has a
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beloved person and now lives in a
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doorman building it in you know in
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out to and more he still is subject to
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whole life but it's still you know wears
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him down over time in in a way that
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everybody can relate to you know where
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he and he's just telling the story and I
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read it and it was like fuck its if more
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people wrote with this kind of just
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simple candor if our carpet for national
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where they weren't where you know and
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kind of like obama's speech to the same
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fact and it's like anyway I posted this
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a link to this just like hey this is a
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great thing and I think everybody should
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read it and I immediately got a bunch of
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like again push back in the form of well
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that's not the whole story and i was i
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at at how primed have primed the world
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is to reject even like the the best
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oh we're not here to take your gun you
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don't think that's the medium know John
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I mean you're putting out you're putting
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it out there in you know it's a quote
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myself you know the the internet is not
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what you have to say it's what others
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it's like when you when you put
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something out there like that even with
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the best heart no matter who you are
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it's going to be about somebody else
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coming back with whatever they think
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their thing is even if they're dumb ass
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I mean you know I don't want to get in
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battle you know I i wonder if it if I
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mean in 1975 when Time magazine was the
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only place the the only national den
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right the only thing that everybody read
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first of all NSA like that would never
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appear in Time magazine but also we had
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no sense of we had no sense of the great
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hundreds of thousands of people who read
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Time magazine every week and threw it
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against the wall and said a bunch of
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jimmy carter liberal communist
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communists so we we have was at the
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police officer from confederacy of
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dunces some kind of communist Dominus um
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she's a grandma and and so now you know
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now we have insight into all these door
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dark corners but but also like my the
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people who are following me on Twitter
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presumably are not a broad cross-section
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of America they are a self-selected
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group of indeed twerps and comedy
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computer nerds and people who are
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presumably taken people who are
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animating bird gifts
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22 appear you know but no bows
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uh well I've never I've never I know you
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weren't point I'm sorry John I know you
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were pointing that at me but I've never
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felt worse about three nouns up in
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comedy computer nerd
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oh that's depressing
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it's a big part that's a big part of my
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demographic now but even among those
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people and this is what I'm saying like
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I i look at that guy who are let's take
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would take one of the detained the
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person responding to questlove's was
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just like westlink what happened about
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Trayvon but I've ad and and you feel
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like okay this guide is probably because
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he's following me on twitter he is
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probably not
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oh he is probably not a racist he's
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probably not a a gun nut in the Idaho
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mountains he is probably a kid who feels
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like he has to like you're saying
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because of the medium he has to take he
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he feels like he has to take this
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oppositional position because there is
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no place to be
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there's no place in his world to read
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something and go hmm well that's
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interesting
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like he he lives now in a in a lives in
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a world where
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we're here in a certain in certain
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extent like he has been called a racist
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so much for expressing like
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middle-of-the-road views that he's
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beginning to feel like well maybe you
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know maybe I am
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or maybe I maybe there's some merit to
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that you know what I mean like he is
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being pushed to the right by assist by a
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bio by living in a world where there is
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no room for him to be in them you know
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slightly to the right of the middle
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I mean I feel that more and more reading
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people on the internet who are taking
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who are taking like stances that you
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really don't feel like they own but but
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that they've been nudged there by the by
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the fact that there's no room to say
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well you know there's there's two sides
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to every coin and I mean obviously the
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Trayvon thing is what I'm talking about
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but it doesn't cost anything that's part
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of the problem
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yeah none of it none of it cost anything
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and you know it's I don't know the first
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thing about economics I mean everything
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i know about economics I've learned from
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Wikipedia but you know that's not true
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you you took me down to the University
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of San Francisco computer store because
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you knew
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oh that's right was gonna have to you
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know I was going to get a better deal on
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my computer I don't sound contradictory
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John but i think that's really more
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about finance that no i mean the the
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idea that things cost stuff you know
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it's it's I mean that that's that's a
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big part of the problem is that it
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doesn't cost anything it doesn't cost
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anything to be a radical it doesn't cost
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anything to agree with this person there
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and agree with that person there you
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know it's it doesn't it's there's
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nothing to it but there's no and I'm
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feeling the cost i guess this is the
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business case you actually fucking
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caring you and you inhabit the the point
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of view that's costly yeah
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yes it is it costs it makes a it makes
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bruises on my heart like an apple at the
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bottom of a bin ya stop there for a
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second marker there I gotta go get opee
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can call you back in a minute
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oh yeah you don't want to just leave it
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running no I I don't trust this thing
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here is the primary problem i have
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shopping for a suburban on on the
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Internet yeah people who are selling old
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Suburbans are the number one they are
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the number one miss spellers of the word
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original huh
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they'll put it all put an extra 0 in
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original in it so it says a red guy on
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all our original organ nononono or a
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Donal and so I want to buy this truck
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and I and I gotta click on it says i
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have a lifted set so anyway no
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punctuation in this whole ad i have a
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lifted 73 suburban on 35's built motor
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has headers full exhaust E with an e at
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the end full exhaust the intake carb has
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cam runs and drive great Oregon old
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paint has nice weld wheels and pretty
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good tyres interiors like new no rips or
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tears ta IRS has ruder mate no carpet
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has dual shocks d ule dual shocks and as
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custom front drive line please call for
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more information have title in hand in
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my name I can text more picture i can
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text more pics and i'm reading and I'm
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just like the hope it makes you happy
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were older men that makes us wind it
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because we've had poetry classes you're
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you're you're reading that allowed in
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your head
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yes i am it doesn't scan well no end and
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you know and and part of me feels like a
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part of me feels like it's from
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Jabberwocky
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tears the tires were pretty good you
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know and and part of part of me thinks
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its EE cummings because there's I mean
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it's just might as well be but uh but so
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I think about like i'm going to call
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this guy
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and talk to him about his truck and I'm
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going to say has full exhaust the intake
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carb has cam runs out god you're that
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guy and no i'm not gonna be that guy but
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I'm just gonna be like so hows it
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how's the truck and whatever he says I'm
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just gonna hear him speak with no
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graduation then note and not and not a
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spell tear it's got a net and so stay
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from the front says it's got access
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you know what though I wonder if that's
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like fake you think that's like fake
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barn find okay let me ask you this how
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many guys you by harley touring
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motorcycle gang right yeah 0m huh
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you should do it I mean maybe trading 4a
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like a stroke and white or something
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what guy I'm gonna I'll give you a
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thousand bucks less than your asking but
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i'm gonna i got a nice copy a nice like
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lightly used copy of Strunk and white
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omit needless words that I am I have
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have the and Landers encyclopedia that a
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data the everyone should read the
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animators encyclopedia suburban bombax
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I've realized how much my humor is
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becoming like Erma Bombeck that's the
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problem with great with aging and
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becoming conservative am i right
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started he started to laugh about jokes
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about potholders my new perfumes baby
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poop haha that's how I feel that's how I
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feel and scott simpson first made that
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joke a while back here kids before me so
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they've got I really feel like I like
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I've been ongoing I'm an ongoing army
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bomb back and active
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yeah i had my first experience today
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where I was that I went to my my
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luncheon with my young dad friends here
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we have a groupie on Dad's what we could
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together what are you called were called
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the young Bad's then I have everything
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that's got McCoy band average age is
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about 43 of the young dads and the other
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guys in my young dad parenting group of
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their their babies are all much younger
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they are little babies and so I've been
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up till now the one that's like listen
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it gets better and here's the stairs the
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deal just wait no don't don't give him a
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pacifier because they're going to be the
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pacifier baby
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you're so wise you want to just tough it
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out people it's but today was the first
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day where you know where one of them has
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a little baby that's strapped into a
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carriage and can't move and the other
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one has a baby that's so little that he
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didn't even bring any left with the mom
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and I'm the one with the
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two-and-a-half-year-old sitting on my
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lap going daddy
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we have to go daddy we have to go daddy
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we have to go daddy we have to go and
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I'm like hey I'm having lunch with some
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friends and she's like we have to go we
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have to go like we don't have to go
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she's like no we have to go and and I'm
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realizing like oh now I'm that now I'm
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the one with the kid who is behaving
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like a little person rather than up the
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love that little bug in a basket now
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she's a little person with like and and
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and my friends are in the same situation
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I was in two years ago where they're
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looking at me like them
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boy that kids not turn out too good and
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I'm like oh my little by little kid is
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uniting outnet you know now i'm now my
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parenting is on display
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no no good as the the pudding is out
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there and the proof is just stuck in
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looks like a cinnamon stick
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yeah I go to the supermarket and and she
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starts you know she starts yelling a you
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know about daddy's PP or whatever and
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I'm like looking around like no no it's
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not like that
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we're just talking we were potty
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training now we we get a lot of penis
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talk there's there's already the cops of
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the sheriff surprise or we were walking
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from school the other day and she said
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her new band is going to be called out
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was it was bird penis part fart poop and
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looks pretty good now here's the thing
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i'm gonna say one thing about this and I
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hope that this is going to be what I
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stand on going forward i have i have to
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hold out a lot of fucking wisdom about
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being a father and you know along the
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way people kinda getting said you know a
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you know it's complicated
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yeah you have to do when you want the
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things you really just
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isn't it beautiful in here you know what
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I'm done I'm done I'm done being fucking
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wise guy i know it's going to be out
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pretty soon I'm gonna be like my
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brother-in-law with the drinks except
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not successful in taiwan lab genoa oh
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yeah he recommended three books to me
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before I could go in and like take a
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he had books for me but that I should
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get was he wearing a pink Oxford cloth
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shirt tucked into jeans pretty close huh
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tassel loafers he was the quarterback in
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high school but not not a dork i mean
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like hehe was he went to a really good
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school use a little his lawyer is a very
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very smart guy but like everybody with a
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daughter who's older than 10 or 11 he's
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broken by life
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oh yeah i know that's coming my daughter
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archives I'm gonna cry tomorrow
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wednesday is going to be our last
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daddy-daughter comics day before she
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starts elementary school and it's eating
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yeah she's wearing she's gonna wear
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spider-man costume to pick which one
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haha no wonder she's into Project Runway
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you know what I'm done being wise and
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I'm done being sweet
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I'm done I'm done I have nothing to
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share I've nothing to share except you
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know you're just gonna fuck up a lot
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that's all I got to say that's what
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you'd be okay with that
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yeah i'm already fine with it and you
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know fortunately the child has a mother
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that must but the thing is Jonathan must
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grind your gears I mean your your whole
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thing is is predicated on the degree to
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which you can help people if they must
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drive you crazy to not be able to help
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her more it seems like it must seem like
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just slightly out of reach
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well this is this is the problem like
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with with other people with fully grown
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adults at i try to people on the
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internet and people on the internet i
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tried to apply a certain amount of
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helpful pressure i realized the other
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day marlin and this is a terrible thing
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I am prejudiced against delicate people
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who just realized that
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well yeah I didn't realize that it was a
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full-blown prejudice like I felt like
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telling people it's like book are going
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i realized sometimes I'm a little
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intolerant niggas tell delicate people i
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guess i had not
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identified them as a subspecies are you
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kid yeah you're kidding no I'm not I i
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think i felt like someone is our
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strongest parts of your personality is
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your complete lack of sympathy for
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delicate people but I felt like some
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delicate people were were hearty people
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that just needed some help and some
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delicate people were you know words
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legitimately delicate and needed to be
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protected protected from the Sun and
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that that was even look at some of the
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lady had chemo like you give her a pass
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sure or there are bird people like Halle
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yeah-hoo-hoo have you or have small bowl
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and I think what it was my mom
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speculates that sometime in human past
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people were selectively choosing a very
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delicate women to be there kind of court
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ladies and then unfortunately some
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little boys were born with this water
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with similar traits
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oh you like the Spanish aristocracy
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right exactly a you get exactly it
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within blood the inbreeding in blood
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mhm but but now I'm realizing like
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delicate delicateness because and and I
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wonder whether it isn't that I am that I
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am so sturdy that there's some kind of
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inner class issue dating back to like
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britannia where I where where I was bred
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to pull a plow and i'm i'm i'm mad at
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people where you can see the where you
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can see their little bird skulls and the
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you see the the blue veins through their
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translucent skin i'm still mad at them
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because i feel like i'm still pulling a
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plow someone who but but anyway the the
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pressure that I that I apply to the to
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the world in the in the hopes that I can
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make the the part of the world that that
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connects with me a little sturdier to
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its own benefits
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I'm realizing that I cannot apply such
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pressure on my daughter past a certain
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point because she most definitely is who
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she is and any amount of any amount of
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pressure on her beyond just the just the
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normal pressure of you will call me sir
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in this house of the hip beyond that
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beyond that like trying to get her to be
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any kind of Army sergeant I work for a
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look if you look you will call me hair
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professor doctor but beyond that like
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trying to try to shape her like hey
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honey I want you to consider the crew
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team or even you know like she's already
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showing a preference for certain kinds
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of books over certain other books it's
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just like overhead knowing no no you
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know like I you know potty books like
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The this book this party book features
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only its board book over that board at
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this party book features a duck she
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prefers the potty book that features a
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dark rather than the one featuring a pic
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and of course there is one that has both
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ducks and pigs
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that's the best seller but you know what
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I'm saying like I can up the my instinct
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which has always been to get right
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inside of people's heads and Tinker now
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with this little person who has come to
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me through through some magic witchcraft
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i realize i cannot take her overmuch
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with her because I see how much of her I
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i think my suspicions with other people
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is that most of their weakness it is a
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product of the of skin some pussy
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upbringing or some bullshit that they
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learned in college while some and some
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bullshit they've been applauded for some
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bullshit that they've been applauded for
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that's right but never that never had
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somebody take the pig look away and with
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it but with this little person who has
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arrived and i see that every really
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every personality trait that she has is
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something that none of us can claim
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responsibility for and I just AM like oh
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my god get out of her way like I
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must get out way records what's
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terrifying everyone is that a minute ago
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about how I'm not gonna try to be wise
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I'm gonna say this one thing this second
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one thing which is that I used to think
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that my daughter brought out the best in
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me and I'm pretty sure this is not her
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fault this is my fault i'm pretty sure
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she brings out very near the worst in me
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oh no and I mean like I'm still I I'll
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and here's the thing i mean like okay so
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think about when you're when you're a
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teenager and maybe not you but you were
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certainly surrounded by guys who like I
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do everything for her and I love her
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like why doesn't she love me like shut
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the fuck up you're making this all about
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you you could give a shit about that
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woman if you really cared if you loved
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in the true sense of the word you would
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leave her alone
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that's what love is it you know what if
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you love that girl and it's obvious she
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doesn't like you
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if it's love in the true sense of the
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word in the sense of like you care more
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about their welfare than yours
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go away there's a nice set them free and
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if they come back to you hire one of the
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marsalis brothers huh
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ok so here's what i say that gives you
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lemons that's right i used to think that
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like oh this is it and gentlemen fide me
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and maybe they're wise and now i sit
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there and go oh my god and like day
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after day after motherfucking day I have
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these constant real estate you get ready
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for this because that's really a fun
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ride getting up doing a three by five
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card okay to get a five by seven
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gonna have with myself as being a
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helicopter father was stolen and you
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know in the sense that like tonight
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we're watching the project runway season
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two finale and I wanted to sit still so
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I can see if Chloe wins no spoilers but
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she was really tired and spinning around
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and coming very close to hitting her
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head on the corner of something which is
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one of my personal like I i have a real
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paranoia about that sure it happened to
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oh my gosh i had a gash in my head when
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I was a kid I don't yeah exactly
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whatever you know whatever it is you
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want in the same way that like if you
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make it through the depression you don't
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want your kids to be hungry like save
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money right that kind of thing and well
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in fact I got a gash in my head and the
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Jewish guild poured out
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so it actually save the Golden Goose
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involved in London golden goose and
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choice i'm not careful careful i would
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also talked about how the glory I got a
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note here anything I am I just got the
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best of me but oh you know I'm letting
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so much about myself and become so wise
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and and you know what i realized i
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realize holy shit i like I want to be
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like a big brother that she admires I I
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want to like me I want her to think I'm
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oh I want will know I'm being honest I'm
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being honest like no and Adam can't
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speak for you but like it wouldn't be
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nice if you could go in there while
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she's got her duck and Orpik book you
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could say something very wise and you
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would see a moment where in her eyes she
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saw how right you were
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mm right instead make maybe you will
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have that I don't know more and more
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often though I realize like how
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completely full of shit i am i'm so full
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of shit I mean I know I'm full of shit
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its kind of my men my deal
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yeah but but like with with this brand
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now if thats doesn't say but that's
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that's the thing and that's what that is
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the that's little what my little cocoon
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to shed its like going like what we know
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and I've said this really like high and
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fucking high and mighty thing from the
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beginning that I've always believed i
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still believe but now I feel more and
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more after we put my money where my
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mouth is which is get out of her way and
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let her become the person that she's
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gonna be yeah which I still extremely
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like that is that's like an article of
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faith to me that is harder and harder to
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do as like I have fun times with her
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we have things we have in common i mean
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you know I'd like to think that I'm very
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supportive of whatever she wants to do
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will play what she wants to play as long
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as it's about comics but you know now
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she's really into drawing which I'm like
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so into and I find myself saying but
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here's how dumb I am I found myself
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saying Haley that was awesome
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like you just drew the laundry in the in
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the washing machine that was really cool
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and then like shut the fuck up like
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don't tell her like that looks good like
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you want her to like live for your
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praise right because why because I want
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to be praised and I and then by
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extension how horrible is this
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I want her to like me because I praised
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stupid is that yeah I'm just being
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honest I'm just being honest and I think
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that was very wise may be very
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supportive parent not very wise and and
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it's like you know that the the hardest
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part of this is like the hard part was
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not just being sleepy that actually that
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was the hardest part
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it was very hard to be sleeping all the
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time but i'm fine i'm thinking even more
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difficult to have to shed the parts of
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my personality i thought were helpful
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yeah to get the fuck out of the way and
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to stop being a 237 12 14 19 year old
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person with the situation i don't know
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that's just and that's why I'm done
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being wise that's as wise as i can get
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this point is like I have no fucking
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idea what's going on
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I hope she learns to make good decisions
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and if she doesn't like that's just
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going to have to be okay yeah i feel
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like i have already rehearsed her first
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driving lesson so many times haha but
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her first driving lesson when she's like
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I want to learn to drive
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I'm going to effort
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first of all you know i'm gonna i'm
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going to school strapped into my driving
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lesson costume i will come I will have
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bought and restored a car just hit
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myself that because you've already kind
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of thought out the components of cars
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oh yeah absolutely i mean you know the
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costume will have a will have a brass by
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glass will have a sigma tar certainly
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gonna be like a cyberpunk modern
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major-general kinda feel yeah that's
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right and her first driving lesson is
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going to last a month and a half
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we're gonna we're gonna leave the home
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this is not getting her ready for Tierra
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del Fuego right now
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that's right this is just making laying
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the groundwork she's gonna be you know
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she'll be 15 and a half and she's gonna
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go she's got a little drop i will go to
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the mall or I want to go to hot topic or
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get a malted it's like you're like you
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know what P now that's 45 days before we
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stop I'm gonna walk over to a loyal
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painting on the wall i'm going to slide
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it over to decide I'm gonna punch in a
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15 number code into a keypad
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the floor is gonna slide open and we're
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gonna go down into a mine shaft where
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the Batmobile away and you're gonna look
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like when you were you like like whip
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away like the the cover of the car and
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there will be waiting there is the joys
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of driving education car and it's gonna
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be like all right before before you get
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into the car deserves a five hour long
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serious there's a five hour long
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checklist and we're gonna go around this
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track tire pressure again check the
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pressure at everything we're going to
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where you are going to test the tensile
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strength of every single spoke in the
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wire wheels of this austin-healey 100m
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and she's just gonna be like I would
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rather never drive you're not ready
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I mean that's right music you're not
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ready not ready and then you spray
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something her face like that man says
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you can't remember but here's here's
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what I really worried i worry that I'm
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gonna start giving her driver's license
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driving lessons when she seven she's
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gonna be sitting next to me trying to
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look at her dora the explorer coloring
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book and we like see this see what this
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semi is doing right now see the semi is
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doing now this could cause an accident
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if I hadn't been looking 15 seconds
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ahead we would be in a very different
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lane right now do you understand that
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young lady understand what Lane we would
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be in right now
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you really are a board book that happens
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to be from England you're like and just
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so you know that's the wrong side the
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drive on a public you would like the
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forehead you wanna make sure you you
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know like I've been showing her kung fu
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movies and you
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oh yeah I think you're aware that you
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are going to turn her into one of those
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like people that like living humans who
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believe there are a superhero and like
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fight crime in downtown sir
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something like x 23 I think it might be
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i think i might be turning her into some
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kind of a superhero assassin you know
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x-23 personally know I've never met her
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she's had a lot of problems got mommy
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here's the thing I i did i did this ok
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here's what I did so every single time
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you've ever seen a kung fu movie with
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awesome fighting in it was the very
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first thing that you wanted to do as
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soon as that seen ended
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want to know what here and kick somebody
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in the face fucking-a right yeah and you
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hear the words that came out of my mouth
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last week
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okay i'm going to show you a scene from
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a movie called it man and i'ma show you
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a scene from a movie called enter the
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dragon but i'm only going to shoot and
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hear you if you promise that you're not
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gonna start hitting and kicking things
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em and guess how it worked out it worked
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out half great
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she promised well shoot that she wasn't
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gonna kick that mean she's you know
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she's five-and-a-half contact with her
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is nobody knows
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well it's john like how many times if
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you had people say to you well here's
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the thing and I'm going to menus and you
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don't mmm
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you know provisionally I mean she's
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smart enough to know that like I'm again
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she knows I'm full of shit
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yeah and like how many I mean to watch
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the scene where Bruce Lee fights the guy
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with the big scar on his eye and like
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does the the kick and send him flying
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across the folding chairs amazing my
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daughter has done nothing but kicked me
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for five days and I deserved every
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single one of them
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what did you think you were gonna get
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what did I think i was gonna get was
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like I can inoculate myself like I could
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have her sign some kind of a waiver
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ya know daddy I will not I do not desire
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to enact this incredible scene over and
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over i'm gonna show you seen from this
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this wing chun movie that involves guys
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on wires flying through the air with
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swords and but you're not allowed to
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want to imitate it
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yeah so last night I have never done
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this before but last night you know I'm
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putting the baby to bed and she's doing
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she doesn't wanna go to bed she's a
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little fussy or whatever and I'm like
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okay you know what
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well let's go watch some Michael Jackson
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videos and so we go and we watch we
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watch Billy gene and we want to beat it
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and by the end of of beat it
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she is she's standing on the bed dancing
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little two-and-a-half-year-old michael
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jackson dance and I realize like okay at
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their I can still I can still I can
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still real this in this doesn't mean
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that she's going to get that this
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doesn't mean that she's going to be a
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like are on a living color i get i can
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still get this back something but I
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could still get this back as well
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somebody's gotta be something another
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like the girl like the girl from the
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girl with the big the big radio box and
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other tights
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in the helmet television troop fights
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under it
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okay so she's dancing along is also why
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the fuck would you show her Billie Jean
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that video has never made any sense
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this is the guy in the trench coat what
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is this is what I didn't realize it
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makes no sense
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Luigi not only makes no sense but it was
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like deeply profoundly cheesy it's and
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1982a cheesy plus creepy and yet every
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second that MJ is on the screen is all
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unimpeachable moment like he is the
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coolest and he is surrounded by like the
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what what the little tiger swatch that
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turns into a tiger cub that you're just
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showing off now that you have access to
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a tiger cup that's all that is and and
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the and the the old hobo that you that
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he throws a coin in his company
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Jamie turns into cab calloway yeah a
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white tuxedo like none of that's all she
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told gibberish your dad would have
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appreciated that
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What's Wrong everyone in kalamazoo he's
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like some white cap gown I don't even
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understand get it was sitting there in
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the first place she's gonna walk around
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thinking every time that she steps on a
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large tile and the like but but the
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thing about that videos it makes so
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little sense i'm never going to show it
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to her again
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no but beat it a whole cat massive being
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it is like an it's being is like an
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entire season of 21 Jump Street peated
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it's there's so much going on in that
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and every one of those every one of
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those gangsters like I believe i'm
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looking at all their faces as their as
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they're they're rolling up on that
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flatbed truck and they're very in the
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sense that they do literally want to
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beat it
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they look like they are there to be to
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have come to play ball and you know none
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of them feel like oh there's a there's a
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guy that they got there is a guy they
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cast like even the white guy that looks
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like that looks like the guy from
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terminator one who came back in time to
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fight the Terminator what the hell is
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his name
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you know I'm saying who's the guy that
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made it with sarah connor
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that produced John Connor oh the future
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guy in my head of confusing with one of
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the Warriors like one of the windy guys
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in the Warriors mmm III know II mean
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maybe the same actor but you know what i
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mean like the guy what's-his-name the
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Terminator not-not-not bill not Bill
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Miller book bill bill pullman so anyway
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what situation values she couldn't sleep
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and so you put this in front of her she
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glog at this point she suggests Bragi
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she's groggy but you know she is she is
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still because she's an infant person or
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or toddler person she still lives in a
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world where I don't think there's a
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tremendous differentiation between
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dreamland and wake land and certainly
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when she is around daddy
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whoo-hoo although he cannot conjure an
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orb can seemingly conjure many many
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daddy can conjure macaroni and cheese
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daddy can conjure music on the stereo
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daddy can conjure michael jackson on the
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ipad daddy is amazing
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still and so I think that she you know
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she like I showed her Teletubbies for
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the first time not very long ago and how
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she's only seen one episode we still say
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Oh pinky Winky but it has put that but
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tinky winky has removed itself from any
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connection to Teletubbies at all and
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it's just become it's become a meme
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frankly in our family but catch phrase
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that means you're subverting the
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dominant paradigm since it means you
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done goofed that's what it means
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you done goofed Oh tinky winky that
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means you done goofed are our friend of
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the show John siracusa has something
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that I really wish I got my hands around
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earlier which is that he has I think is
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an older son in particular he will but
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he's got a couple kids he refuses to
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even acknowledge that the the the star
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wars prequels the trilogy exist
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and and then like they're there and he's
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like what you know that they're there
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like if they find blu-rays they find the
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dvds like that's ok but I i'm not going
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to acknowledge that they exist that
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Teletubbies needs to be on that kind of
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level you have to be so careful what you
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introduce because you never know what
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will stick our III admire a admired that
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I deeply admire it
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he's a very admirable guy you guys
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should do a podcast you to Syracuse is
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that some kind of italian name is Ian
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syracuse yeah John siracusa user he's
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the smartest guy listen to the show that
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that's like a that's a kind of sausage
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yeah exactly yeah um so I don't know you
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know you know my feeling about ethnic
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people all absolutely you are on to them
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and I feel like they're simple
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traditions i feel like i feel like the
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racism of my grandparents right you
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can't be racist against Italians which
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was primarily directed at Italians and
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Irish for good reason that feel like I
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like as as as more and more music
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artists are reverting to the music of my
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great-grandparents which in the in the
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words of Carl Newman it is is you know
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shouting over fiddles guy with the
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Scottish background up i feel like i
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feel like my new retro affectation is
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going to be racism against Catholics
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fucking papers that's fucking papers
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