Ep. 70: "Bad Cop, Worse Cop, Man in Bathrobe"
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hello hey John
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hi Merlin has gone pretty good
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yep I got that keyboard that you
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suggested
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oh it arrived in the mail it is I you
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didn't tell me it was solar-powered see
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any wouldn't get it
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I'm so psyched though the end I thought
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like you're absolutely right if you had
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said it's solar-powered bluetooth
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keyboard i would have hung up the phone
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immediately like an okay
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imagine if I had said to you my god John
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you're hungry you should try these chips
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they're so freaking hang up already i
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don't know i always something
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these chips are so good up there and i
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would say they're right there there
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puffed rice and and rolled out but still
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cut rolled oats tough-on-crime let's
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have a family that are that are a
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seasoned with olives salt
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I would have been I would I wouldn't
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have even been listening I would've been
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gone and recovered oil but this keyboard
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is beautiful
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it's just that I haven't I haven't yet
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synced it with any of my devices because
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i want to save that moment you don't
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like the little blue lights light up
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it's pretty exciting
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I like all but I like everything about
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it but I don't wanna I don't wanna rush
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into anything with it
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mhm so I'm still sitting at my computer
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with no operative keyboard that was
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insensitive of me to send you our weekly
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boop because I knew I should have known
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that it wasn't ready but I'm very I'm
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very happy note that it arrived i think
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yes things will get better you boo me
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and I that but I knew that it was I knew
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you didn't expect a reboot
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yeah well I would like to think that
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that is a tentpole of our relationship
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is we don't always expect a boot yeah
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right you send out a Boop maybe get a
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boot back maybe don't you feel that way
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really i mean i think with us I hope
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that's the way it is but don't you
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sometimes worry about not getting a boot
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from someone
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well here's the funny things sometimes I
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go weeks and weeks and weeks I don't
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need a boot from anybody and then other
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times all of a sudden I send a Boop out
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I don't get a boot back in
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in five or six minutes and then I'm
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literally up a tree
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I have to go climb a tree and and him up
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there pulling my hair out about like
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where's my roommate words the boot back
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right and an idea and I honestly don't
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understand how how you how one person
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can fluctuate from sol a sol are
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autonomous and pens self-contained to so
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needy it in such a short amount of time
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and a lot of times the boot the boot
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that I want isn't really the boob I want
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it's just some random boob I send a
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thing out and I don't get a reply on my
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god no it's not that's not even that's
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not even the big boob you know when
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they're they're probably days like when
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you're busy you're traveling you're on
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the road you get stuff going on you get
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way too many boots and yeah so many
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books right well and that's the thing if
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you live in a world where you're not
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you're not
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johnny-on-the-spot with the boobs how
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can you then be upset
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uh-huh when something you know somebody
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else's probably juggling three jobs or
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you know or peeling avocados or whatever
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it is that people do and and they don't
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have time to just be like looking at
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their phone all day literally spent five
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hours talking about this today he did
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oh this was your your buzz match meeting
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that was my buzz which yeah you had a
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buzz yellow meeting with some buzz which
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is this can help people John I keep
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thinking I can help people didn't want
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you to be on their board are you on
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their board i think that was
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mmm i think it was certainly something
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that would have been under consideration
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if I if I weren't such a horrible little
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contradictory man ever see you seem
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perfect she's involved fiction m
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nope well Harvey to the calling Harvey
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Keitel the wolf you to come and clean
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out the car after they accidentally blow
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the kids had notes this point i say blow
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the kid's head off in the back of a cool
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car shows up in there was a chance of
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Alta is what Justin nsx us three car and
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then and then so does it look let's be
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honest and that in that situation just
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revolted looking for the poop
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is he is waiting right for the harvey
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keitel this wolf to be deferential to
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him and to treat him with respect
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right and I don't I can't quote it from
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memory but it's something along the
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lines of listen I talk fast I Drive fast
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you know it seems like a plan being Curt
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with you you know it's because we have a
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job to do and you know the time is
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limited
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it's basically me with everyone all the
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time yeah and I so I had to I had that
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they said that today to the founder of a
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company so you win and then they were
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like what do you think about this and
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they gave me some buzz words and you're
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like let me cut to the chase
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they were super nice people but i did at
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one point I did this I was clearly
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really frustrating this one guy with me
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and how I am I said I'm frustrating you
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aren't I
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and he was just he really wanted
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everything in bullets and and finally I
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was like let me explain something to you
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ah if you expect me to come in here and
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just agree with all the reasons why your
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product is good the way it is you're
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wasting your money right
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I'm hear them the Merlin Mann verbal
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scimitars I i gave them I i read them a
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1500 word right after it was all great
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but you know honestly John it's like I I
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you helped so many people I see it every
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day I see people saying how much you
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helped them and I'm really envious
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mmm i am I mean you are helping people
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in this great land of ours and again
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other lands other lesser lands shiro
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think they're all necessarily lesser
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land super helping people all around the
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world Merlin oh I mean I i did this
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keynote speech with my good friend
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Kathleen Edwards of canada i love her
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uh-uh-uh-uh a wonderful nation i will be
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set allen and especially for something
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from that country God love boys that
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interact with all the handicaps that she
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came into this world shoot with not even
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a disability that the red hair they want
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me to chair
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yeah but so we can Kathleen is very
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she's a very Merlin Mann like a person
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when he's got a mouth on her i'll say
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that she does she's a she she works blue
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and she was so we were sitting before
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right before we had go on onstage
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and the people that are putting on the
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event they usher these two very nice
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people over and they sit down in our
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table where we were you know where we
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were like prepping for our presentation
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and the people who are putting on this
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presentation say we'd like you to meet
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these two people they're really excited
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to meet you
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they are from rhapsody and of rhapsody
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people said to us this is a golden
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opportunity we really want to work with
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artists like you we want to provide we
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want to provide really like heightened
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content to our look to our listeners we
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want you to socially networked with with
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people who are fans of yours on rhapsody
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and Kathleen said she really put her
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hand down on the table and said let me
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stop you there
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why would I socially networked with my
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fans through your website answer and
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they both went good question
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well we really think that there's an
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opportunity for you to meet people
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online and she said hang on just a
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second and she SAT there right in front
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of the man tweeted and you any one of my
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fans use rhapsody and she didn't use the
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platform John within 30 seconds she had
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25 replies all of them nope
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and like two of them more like nope
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nobody does and so she was like so
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anyway anything else and it worked like
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they were pretty flabbergasted because
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they had a whole pitch and she just
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simit artem I didn't I was eating a
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chicken sandwich I didn't even I didn't
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even like that you aren't you're called
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no I was in the sandwich and taking it
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taking a drink of milk and nobody asked
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me to set there with my eyes twinkling
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but but yeah you and she should go into
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business together
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I should never be in any business but
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for the opposite of corporate raiders
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corporate corporate make Criers you can
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just look around and you make
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corporations cry anime if you're telling
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me there might be a role for people to
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speak way more truth to power than they
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have ever heard
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huh and we not only disrupt the
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conversations that their use the empty
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fucking buzzword Laden conversations
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that they're used to having with other
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people who think that's acceptable
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yeah and we say two things to them in a
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way that they're not used to and then
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yeah I think they need that John you
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need to be on some boards i think
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there's a job there
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you know I I have all the confidence see
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here's the thing i think if i walked
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into a boardroom and there was 16
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million dollars in hundred-dollar bills
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on the on the boardroom table that would
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give me pause but I i had been fairly
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confident that you and Kathleen Edwards
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both could walk into a room with 16
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million dollars on the table now this is
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it this isn't 16 million dollars that
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it's been specified is intended for
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anything it's just there
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ok there's an intimidation tactic
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they've just that and it's not stacked
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they just kind of piled it there in
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bundles like the world series of poker
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foo and it's just there because they
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know you're coming in they know you're
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the people that are there to make
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corporations cry and this is this is
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their way of like that they're trying to
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freak you out there trying to psych you
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it's a bully tactic and i think i would
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walk into that room with my bathrobe in
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my seminar and I would see that six
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million 16 million dollars and I would
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get a little distracted but I think you
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and Kathleen could you could both sit
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atop that money
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still deliver the bad news and not even
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really notice the money was there
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oh we're in it for the for the passion
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it's all about the music with us I think
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it's all about the music for you guys
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yeah but you're also your get better
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with money I mean you really you you are
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and I must be honest this is all the
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more reason why we should probably team
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up right you want something
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well you know you got somebody with good
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knees to be the catcher you know and
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so you and Kathleen go in and you just
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start hammering them and they're blown
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freaking out about the money and i'm
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behind i'm coming in behind and I'm
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scooping the money into a trader joes
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shopping back it's like bad cop worse
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cop man in africa but I brought all my
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trader joes shopping bags go back 15
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years every logo and I'm just sweeping
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the money in there they're not even
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noticing because they're so upset when
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their blood is so the blood to thin
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their phones are so thin and they're
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there so they're so wrecked from a
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context i like this i think this is a
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great business model i think it is and
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you know if I can find a way to get paid
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for what I'm actually good at
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i think i would be very successful the
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problem is that historically i have been
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paid for stuff that i am not
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particularly good at and I've been lucky
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sometimes but it's a that will not to
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blow too much smoke but Merlin I think
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that even the things that you consider
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yourself not very good at you are way
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better at than most people who are doing
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that job that's why you get paid to do
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those things
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thank you but also it's the same problem
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m CH Allen's the same gift
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let's say that you've got which is that
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and we can we talk about this we are
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gifted men
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we're extremely gifted we're lucky man
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were middle-aged men who are lucky to be
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we are lucky to be alone every people
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our people our age are dying of
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congestive heart failure all over
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America and i'm going to think about
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that okay I'm sorry but we talked about
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this little bit i think going to dad
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that very important first interview
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together in my back yard with the cat
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and the Chinese people playing
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basketball
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mom you know I i really i really believe
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that one of the things that makes you
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such an interesting person is your it
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seems like you have a biological source
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of pain when you're expected to play
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along with BS especially when it affects
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you write it seems like a system is my
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duodenum really what i have at the
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bottom spasm for me it's my pyloric
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valve all right itself feels right
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especially when you're dealing with
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mixes haha Boethius is wheel it turns
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but now I mean uh huh yeah right time to
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talk about real things but but you know
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it'sit's III it's frustrating because I
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I used to just think it was merely
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because i have bad impulse control and
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the truth is I have bad impulse control
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but it also that like it's just it's
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like you imagine like something somebody
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comes to your door and they're trying to
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sell you something and then they keep
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talking to you and like the thing is you
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don't want what they're selling you
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don't want to be talking to them and you
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don't want them at your door but like
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you're the dick if you say could you the
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only making always to say i have no
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money and i will never have money that's
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really the only way or shoot them up now
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you gotta deal with the body
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I don't know you you're one of those
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guys and I i have known a few but but
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but a very few where you know the the
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insult of of complicity in modern life
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is this death by a thousand cuts you
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know it
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everybody's standards are just Whittle
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the way over the course of time and and
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the the first time you see Madonna's
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belly button on television it's on the
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front it's on the cover of Time magazine
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what in the front it is to civilization
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and you know and as I've said before now
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there is surely somewhere right now in a
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club some pop star who is who is
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stretching her labia over someone's
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forehead and for a music video and
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everybody's like amazing amazing how
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come Madonna didn't do that how come
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nobody thought of that before and it's
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it's just that incremental e we have
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grown accustomed to vulgarity and to
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insult to such a degree that most people
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are living in the this kind of state of
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like of constant surrender and the the
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only fight they can muster
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he's like that's not my brand of ice
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you know that's not my that's not my
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shit that's not my favorite channel and
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I'm gonna and I'm I'm an amount of
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protest but there are a few people like
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you who have never accepted any of those
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incremental degradation 'he's and you
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are still fighting a fight way back
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upstream where you're you're just you
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are not accepting the basic premise that
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a lot of people are our seasoning their
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food with you know and I have a few
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friends like this and some of the and
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the problem is all you all in any don't
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pay their bills but none of them do what
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you know one of them is working as a
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security guard and the problem is that
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at a certain point that starts to look
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like paranoia or you start to you start
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to seem like a likely at least initially
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look at least like a crank a crank
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bordering on a conspiracy theorists are
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bordering on you know it's it's ok it's
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only two it's only two more doors down
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the hall before you're starting to talk
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about a bio streaks in the sky but
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whatever whatever that it is about I saw
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a billy corgan video where he's on stage
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somewhere talking about talking about
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the crop dusting shitting me
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no you don't i'm talking about right
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there I don't know I don't know about
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this what is up with a blue streaks what
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are they get so there's a whole subset
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of the internet crank land that looks up
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in the sky and sees put contrails from
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jets and the array the arrangement of
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contrails in the sky is pretentious to
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them and f that is that is so not a
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thing it's a thing and no way evidence
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this bear with me evidence that the the
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government and i'm not talking about and
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I know my god
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what about the Obama Nazis i'm talking
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about the big government about that the
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real talk about the real government they
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are basically from a very high altitude
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crop-dusting us with like powdered sugar
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and LSD and birth control pills and some
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you know and like he just like monkey
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glands and Ted Nugent's g-string
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underwear and I don't know what it is in
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these what they're gassing us with I
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haven't had not been able to follow in
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their theory of this what what does that
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dusting accomplished for the government
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it is using against my client
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yes it's another way you are blind to
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the truth which is that we are being
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chemically controlled I'm otherwise
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controlled so that so that end goals
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like universal healthcare can be forced
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down our throats or worse worse things
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like the all-seeing eye on top of the
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pyramid
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oh I've seen that Yeah Yeah Yeah right
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well yeah you know when they hold your
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hundred-dollar bill up to the light
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they're just looking for Obama you found
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that crystal ball wrapped in that piece
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of a velvet that you're not supposed to
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touch remember when the wizard said
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don't look into the ball with the
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tabernacle but I don't know what's in
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the tabernacle but i dunno under Gustad
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Switzerland there is a there is a mine
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shaft leading to a room on remind me of
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dr. Strangelove for the Jews are eating
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Christian babies right to make them into
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matzo bread and there's no but now
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they're grinding their bones and their
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crop dusting this with them is so right
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yeah well that's what I heard well it
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stands to reason so anyway if you if
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Billy about that Jim Corrigan he you're
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telling me he's up on stage and he's he
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hit the the power to which he speaks
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truth is the crop dusting government
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that's right he's later people know
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those are not just did that you're not
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merely just lines of moisture in the sky
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right there's something bigger going on
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he is standing on stage somewhere in a
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room full of people who believe that
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melancholy and the infinite sadness of
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the of the ARS poetica of the what was
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that what was that I said when the wind
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upon meets the Queen to the bishop 16
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Apple hundred i like his final Myra
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despite all his race so just really goes
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gay which I'm assuming now is like it
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was taking a 250-seat club somewhere on
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the outskirts of sick fall and he's up
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on stage you know with us but the just a
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silver star on his long sleeve t-shirt
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and he's talking about these crop
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described i wish i knew i wish i had a
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keyboard i could figure out what these
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things are called because they have a
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name and everything it takes a look at
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you were looking for like add contrail
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crop on conspiracy
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yeah maybe okay yeah and-and-and what's
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great about it is that as evidence as
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proof of this
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they have photos and photos just volumes
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of photos from haha contrails scarred
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next makes tea leaves look pretty pretty
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sophisticated because there's because
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there's some going this way and then
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there's some going on the guy John this
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is real the chemtrail conspiracy theory
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trails that's it come true that it's not
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moisture the chemtrail conspiracy theory
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holds that some trails left by aircraft
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are chemical or biological agents
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deliberately sprayed at high altitudes
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for purposes undisclosed the general
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public in clandestine programs directed
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by various government officials area 51
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mm silver iodide yeah so their spring it
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really high up so that it dissipates
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over all of us include presumably the
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pilots grandmothers and the and the u.s.
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senator that lives in that town right i
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mean it's it's like targeted at
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everybody all the girls go to go to the
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the poor neighborhoods of the people
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with guns and right now we're doing here
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here's one part is every 30,000 feet
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over the poor neighborhoods very very
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effective way to drop underwear now the
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thing is so in the in the estimation of
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these various scientists that are
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studying this important work
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what is what has happened as a result of
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that hasn't well you look around you
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the aforementioned labia artist the
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writing the lady artist on contrail
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chemicals i think the fact that the
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website that the Jezebel website even
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exists because of chemtrails that goes
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that those women have become is that
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empowered this is gonna be one of those
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things like Scientology where I can't
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think about it too much because i will i
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will go down a certain kind of tone
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level rabbit trail and then we'll start
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think I'll start really thinking about
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it in order to really understand
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something you have to be a little bit
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sympathetic I think me to understand
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another person even if you disagree with
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them you have to put yourself in their
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in their chem trail shoes and try to
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and very suggestible I guess yeah I
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don't want to read i'm just gonna read
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that first paragraph i think okay that
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seems good to meet you here bored you
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hear about this that you what you want
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no but I you know I follow the line
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follow the traits and I i spent some
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time on the internet looking for
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evidence of intelligent life and you're
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looking in the wrong place but I am him
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i'm an old man with the lamp searching
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for something and the problem is that i
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do not limit the corners of the internet
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that i visit so I go if you only read
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things you already know you're not
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learning that's right but you're going
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to have to be you or any other scholar
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of a lamp would have you have to be
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challenged you have to go into room that
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you've never been into before something
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which can be very dark
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that's right am I wrong I have spent
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I've spent more time than I care to
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like trolling not trolling but drawing
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the the whole like white supremacist
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underground
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i have spent many many hours watching
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the step dance routines of black
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fraternities in the south
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I have like like the family marching
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band like fancy dances those things are
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you not familiar with the step dancing
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phenomenon is this this is that Harlem
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shuffle thing
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no no this is one of this is one of
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America's great cultural clogging the
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rains it is not unlike clogging I've
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seen some clogging so this is a this is
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a tradition in the black fraternities of
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the you know the howard university in
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the big universities in the south where
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they duel with one another with a very
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orchestrated kind of clog dancing called
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stepping where they stand
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they do this like hyper hyper a like
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co-ordinated dance steps as a as a form
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of competition with one another and it
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it is super super badass and it and it
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has not really it is not really gone out
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into the world like it there there has
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voguing where it went from a kind of
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underground culture and and became a
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mainstream culture like I think there
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was a while there may be the late
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eighties me maybe kid and play had a
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little bit of a sure step dancing as
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part of one of their movies or I don't
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know there was a million or more
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probably like a dance kata like they
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were showing you what they could do if
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they decided to fight
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yeah but it was always like it was
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always to people dancing against each
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other and this is like 25 people then
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it's like marching band duels except
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without the are both sides doing the
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same dance
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no no they like they bring their didn't
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like it i mean i don't work thing but
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it's kinda like a breakdance battle
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don't you don't you do a prisoner like a
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like a you know a michael jackson
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thriller thing where you can like dance
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against each other West Side Story style
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yeah it yes there there there are
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elements of that but it's also very
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military like they're its kind of theirs
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they're mine
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King elements but you really have to
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just really just have to spend the many
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hours I will be there watching and you
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don't like because some of them some of
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you know some of those contests are
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unfortunately none of them have really
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been filmed professionally so you're
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watching these contests than their film
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from people's phones shot a feature
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phone and you're just like oh come on i
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wish that this at good sound and I wish
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it had that sounds like a documentary on
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netflix and I mean that's waiting to
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I bet that if there isn't one some
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riders on the line listener is already
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putting up a kickstart chuck klosterman
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in thurston moore will be in it so any
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first-time is stepping has taught me
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many things and and one of my favorite
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things right now is chemtrails ok just
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dropped a little bit of thread there so
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so stepping was that that's just an
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example of the dark rooms into which you
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will walk with your keyboard is why
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wouldn't i wouldn't even call better
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that's not our ping-pong apologize you
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know like i have never have never used
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tor or on any kind of onion start web
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secret secret you have not used any of
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the onion based IP obfuscation services
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right i have not done any of that I go
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into the I'm you know what I am a pete
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townsend character and I'm out there
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looking at terrible things on the
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internet as part of my research and if i
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get indicted right if I have my search
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history comes up with a bunch of snuff
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films and terrible like you know all the
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terrible evil that's out there i am
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fairly confident first of all that I'm
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gonna know the FBI agent that is
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assigned to the case and that he and I
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are gonna have understanding ain't no
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innocence that it'll be someone you're
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familiar with but look at somebody that
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but I probably went to college with her
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or when you set up the meeting but
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didn't go
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yeah he's more he might be erotic on the
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line listener and if that isn't if that
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isn't enough then probably the district
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attorney's father went to law school
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with my dad it what I'm saying is the
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old boy network is going to take care of
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this and I'm not going to get in trouble
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that's how I go through life that's how
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i make it happen okay yeah I
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somebody somebody has to be the peak
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terms of our modern day and be out there
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looking at terrible things as a way of
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bearing witness
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it'sit's something in my first move I
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guess I i became aware of late in my
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tenure of living in the south and I
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don't think it's peculiar to the south
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but there's a funny thing that I would
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encounter which is people thinking that
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because you know about something you not
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only like are like a prove it but that
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you do it em like you said in the office
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and go pumas artifacts that i'm totally
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on crack and they would look at you and
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think you you actually were literally
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thinking about doing crack that he was
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saying is you had said that you were
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well I mean I'm being a little bit
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extreme but like it's such a faux pas
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I mean you know in in certain we've
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talked about this before but in certain
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little subsets of of the culture you
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know a lot of what is said is what is
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not said and there are certain things
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that you know they could be a real turd
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in the punchbowl like if I said turn the
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punch bowl in the office like that would
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probably mean people don't think I like
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to drink turns or something you're gross
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with you how terms of you put in
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Punchbowl out the Cadillac bad at all
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I am I punchbowl you know we we you and
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I between the two of us we've seen a lot
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of things we've gone down a lot of roads
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I i think so and I mean I in some ways
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I'm excuse me I'm sometimes grateful
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well I'm often grateful for things like
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YouTube like you know like tonight I got
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found a couple like things by elliott
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smith and posted on my website I'm glad
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that's out there but sometimes I won't
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find myself using YouTube for what it's
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actually for which is following your
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nose deeper and deeper and deeper into
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something super duper weird that you had
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no idea
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lots of people would in this case make
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videos about that somebody has to knows
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all i thought it was all just guys
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getting hit in the nuts when they're
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trying to skateboard down or railing
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yeah they call it they called board
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napping
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I don't know that I'm sure I'm sure that
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that's John right by me that could be
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something as benign as like people
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playing ukulele covers of songs
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that could be a thing that you for
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awhile i happen to know that it's a
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thing it's a thing that made Jonathan
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Coulton a lot of money huh
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ok put ads on the page no because
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covering jonathan coulton music on the
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ukulele covering jonathan coulton to
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John Collins music in a twee way over on
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the ukulele has actually spawned all
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those onra it's their name for it i
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think it's called uh I think that it's
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called impacted thank you i see a lot of
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fluid system i saw it is not Tom Cruise
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crazy one time that was really really
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yeah but it's like you know I think
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there should be you know it's funny like
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right now the youtube people can do
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things like you know using algorithms
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they can basically find any copyrighted
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music that's they can try anyway to find
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a nice music that's used in a video or
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something like that you know I i think
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it would be nice to to let me know ahead
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of time before i click on the video that
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it's a ukulele cover and it would be
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really nice like if I'm gonna go like I
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say if i want to find some built to
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spill I would please make it clear that
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this is shot with somebody's chickie
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feature phone that's the kind of thing
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that would make that useful because
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that's a lot of wasted time that
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something could be spending on
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chemtrails well this is the thing I read
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this article in wired not very long ago
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which I subscribe to and have subscribe
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to wired for many years because I
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believe that you don't you have to show
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your bona fides to me i believe i know
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that L computers that if a person reads
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wired yes and discover magazine that may
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know all science that is all you need to
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know all science but this article in
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wired said they keep making these bigger
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and bigger tvs that have more and more
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features but none of them are useful
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because television sucks
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it's pretty good and I was like huh that
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that's really exactly true and this this
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article went on to say like you can you
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know your TV supposedly allows me to
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sink 10,000 things but really I just
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want to watch dr. Strangelove and I
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don't want to and I can't find it
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anywhere and I don't want to have to
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type dr. Strangelove into 17 different
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yeah you seem like a four-way Genghis
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yeah using a dingus type it into all
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these different menus and nobody has it
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and you know and he's like here we have
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the tvs like that that's peaked we don't
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need more we don't need higher
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definition we don't need bigger tvs we
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got it now where it's mastered now we
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need someone to figure out how to make
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watching TV even remotely pleasurable to
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someone that doesn't spend four hours a
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day figuring out their TV
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yeah it's it's it's a promise not so far
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off what I felt like I was facing a
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little bit today which is that um you
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really only so much you can do like if
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shoeshine person can only do so much to
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improve what's out there that you know
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it's not is it do you think it's up to
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the TV makers to make a better show no
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but but this is that this is the
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direction of the like I think the TV
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makers could they they are what we have
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now is is 40 interfaces and what we need
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yeah and Sony is as capable as anyone up
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being the person that makes the one
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interface you know like Sony doesn't
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sony could could be at the forefront of
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the technology we need you know the TV
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makers are also makers of other things
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and I don't know what was that can you
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tell us what the company was that you
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visited today
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no absolutely not
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thank you though um the third there may
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be something to what we're talking about
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this is why I don't make it all about
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the money but this also might be where
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you meet Kathryn thinking the Kathleen I
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think maybe maybe Jason Finn we could
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find a role for is a good polish your
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bowling balls but he paid to have that
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done he does but you know the you know
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here here's one of the problems is that
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if you look at all the stuff in general
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you know all aspects of like
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entertainment and dealing with other
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people like all the stuff that the
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internet is you know kind of there to
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help us do all of the innovation so much
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of the innovation that we see is mainly
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to become a barely profitable nuisance
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ways could be that you well if you want
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if you want to find dr. Strangelove
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you're gonna have to go through this
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search system that you know unless
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you're gonna go out and steal it
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you're going to have to go through this
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really byzantine you know way to find
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this movie I've been trying to find this
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one documentary that I've heard a lot
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about and basically i'm going to have to
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buy a plastic disc from amazon in order
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to watch it like I've got money i will
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not a lot but i mean i'll pay to watch
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it right now
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I do it all the time i bought I bought
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the matrix the other night like just for
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fun because I wanted to watch it because
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it's really easy to do on my own TV but
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but I mean like for example we subscribe
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to this thing you know called hulu which
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gives you access to you know a whole
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bunch of shows and I'm Geico commercials
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this is my point John it was my wife's
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idea i'm in it for the long haul with my
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lady if she wants to do we get hulu and
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like I tried to watch a Saturday Night
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Live episode and i fast-forwarded and
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like the thing froze up because i was
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like trying I wasn't trying to avoid a
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commercial I was not trying to be out of
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compliance and throws up the box that
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was on but I think about the thing with
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I don't see anything is Rhapsody yeah
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one of the doctors but it's but like in
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that case that you're saying like I ok
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here's another example um what you were
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MC Hammer's birthday party right as i
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was in all of them is 50th birthday
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party but that was a weird night I i was
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very weird lost to get sweatshirt that
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night but um but in that case it's for
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you but you were hilarious that night so
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was I yeah because i was making fun
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a friend yeah you're here making fun of
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of all the tech nerd ladies me
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yeah there was a there was a tape we
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were sitting at is it is really nice
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house and accidentally making fun of him
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and you made fun of him being but but
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you may not remember may not remember
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this because you were celebrated with
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MCM oh so so effusively but but we were
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sitting at a table and a bunch of Tom's
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that was so funny
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20-something kids in skinny pants came
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and join us at the table and they were
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all hyper confidence stanford grads who
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all had a twitter app or a new startup
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that they were really excited about and
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they started to try to talk to you about
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the internet do you think do you think
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they like it they'll do she don't think
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they were like familiar with me do you
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well what I think was that you had
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another guest at the table that was much
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better noon and I yeah yeah there was a
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there was someone else the table that
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was more of those more famous than us
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all but they were they started talking
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to you and they realized they clocked me
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at the clock as the internet guy at
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first at first you you told them
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successfully but then they got them they
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were wise to you but they weren't sure
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like where you are coming from and they
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were fascinated by you and then their
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fascination with you made you furious
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and then you really really wanted to you
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don't really do that
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yeah there you really wanted to see them
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talk like in the stocks in the public
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square if you wanted you wanted to say
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some science bed a on all of them and
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they and they were terrible thing to do
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no no it was wonderful because they were
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they were the the san francisco kids i'm
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sure they all had out e8 cuatros valet
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parked with like ground effects and
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personalized license plates and these
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kids deserve to be taken to task for
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being like tasteless little douches but
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but you but you are also that I
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Solarians critical in moments like that
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just so amazing that that is the kind of
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person that you would meet at MC
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Hammer's 50th birthday party right you
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would think MC Hammer's 50th birthday
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party was going to be full of like
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former Oakland A's like I would've met
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like I don't like like I mean really
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Brown was there that was kind of cool
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he's the best but the guy didn't get any
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weekend plans or anything
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yeah right but the red but everybody
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else in there is like 24 years old and
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and like there's the asian one and then
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there's the blonde one and the mr.
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Finkel bosses and they're all wearing
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uniqlo close at like uniqlo pink khakis
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and they are so excited about talking
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about the internet and you just you it
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was like we were there too and it's like
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was worried about was like like in the
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area where we were kind of camped out
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there was a group that correct me if I'm
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wrong but there was a group that really
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a clip here to be armed at a a noise
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real name i forget his real name but MC
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Hammer like I will call him his like
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there was like really his family writers
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his normal-looking Oakland
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african-american family in their Sunday
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go to church clothes looking like
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they're being and it was really nice and
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he had obviously been talking a lot of
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people into this party and it looked
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like they were having fun and we're like
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looked awesome and then there was a lot
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of douchebags like us there was like
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yeah you outside and remember I was
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delayed coming in because i was talking
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to this guy who's anybody doesn't matter
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but he's like a super famous internet
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guy like a wire
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why are we here why are you here but you
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can't really talk about that because
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this Liberty i mean i was there because
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i'm a rockstar yeah you gotta send that
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was your friend
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it was it was my friends my friends
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friend the e-k-u can really your
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friend's wife
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no it was my friend's friend that was
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smoking an e-cigarette that you really
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took two tabs actually wizard really big
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test for his multimillion-dollar house
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anyway anyway
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the problem is the problem is that like
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the only way to the people it seems to
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that sometimes it's strange to me that
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like and I think this goes to your TV
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point is that ok great guys we perfected
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the tvs
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now or in this case we can make the
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internet go fast and be reliable and
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you're like your browser won't crash as
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much but like now you know sort of what
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we have to look at but to get stuff we
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want to look at you have to find a way
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to pay for it or I know ideally
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bandwidth isn't is that was surprisingly
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expensive for a lot of this stuff and so
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but the trouble is the best way that a
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lot of people have figured out to do
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that is to is to annoy people is is is
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to be a nuisance
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yeah and like I heard an interview with
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you the other day where you were talking
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to somebody
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this is two guys in Canada about your
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music and talking about the idea of you
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know quit stealing music and what it
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means and you know it's funny though
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because I'm more drawn to this having a
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very clearly delineated relationship
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where I pay a certain amount of money
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and get a thing kinda like it's like
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like Middle Ages kind of stuff I don't
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mind it at all i'm just going to my Lou
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and like watching commercials will
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adam-12 is on does not make me happy
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no but I went to next links and i typed
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in what do you think I typed in
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Auschwitz you already know that you have
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seen everything that has out within the
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title no I went to I went to the netflix
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as you do and i type in dean martin
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short because I was like you know what I
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want to see right now I want to see
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anything with Dean Martin minutes and
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netflix says the new keyword returns no
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results and I'm like if you are if you
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are a purveyor of of movies and a person
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can't go into the search bar at the top
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of your product and put in Dean fucking
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Martin and not get back the wealth of
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the 20th century
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yeah I you know I should have I should
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have been one click away from Lucille
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Ball I should have been with sammy davis
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jr. the most entertaining man has ever
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I should have been i should have been
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that close to bing crosby I should have
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been that guy should have been seeing
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Jonathan winters into cliques and
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instead I get returns no result
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you know here's the thing John I as I
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sit here i am realizing that the matrix
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which i bought for I think ten dollars
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American
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on the appletv I'm realizing I'm deep
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inside the matrix because I thought
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about that for a second and I thought oh
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you'll get oceans 11 you make it the
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colgate you know Jerry Lewis shows
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something but then I stopped for a
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second i said holy shit there's no
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fucking Dean Martin on netflix but think
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about being a little kid thinking about
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being a kid when we were kids and the
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incredibly entertaining people who were
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doing things that but there's no Edwin I
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bet there's very little Jack Benny but
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here's the thing years of here's the
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thing that I have no way of knowing
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merlin which is that on netflix I'm sure
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there's tons of Denmark but me as a dope
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I don't know how to find it now fighting
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with google when I put Dean Martin in i
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am two clicks away from watching free
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Dean Martin on youtube but I was in a
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pay service and the thing I thought of
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was I want to watch a movie and their
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algorithm is not written to allow me to
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put the name of somebody in I had they
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want they want me to put like they want
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me to do you hear me to appear as like a
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as a marquee name that we have to be
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right so what they want me to do is go
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to westerns and then go to matt helm
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fifties westerns you know like the and
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that is that's what i'm saying when I
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say that we have the tvs now but nobody
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has figured out a way other than other
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than Google and YouTube to get me my
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Dean fucking Martin as fast as I
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possibly can you know like i do not want
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to sit and have to think of how to get
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I don't want to put some like it hot in
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there I don't want to put you know I
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don't want to have to chase Dean Dean is
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being teen already is being chased by so
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many people want it should be a button
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should be a preset you know what it
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should be like one of these f it should
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be f7 on every solar powered keyboard f7
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that's pretty good I i think yeah yeah I
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guess I I think of it sometimes like for
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example like I have this is some
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surprises are you were breaking the
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rules talking about the internet a
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little their kids listening to this
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podcast you have never heard of being
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Martin that's a goddamn shame that you
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know what that is chemtrails you think
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that's what it is
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chemtrails and make your family make
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your parents not tell you about Dean
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Martin they were raised by somebody who
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was like um Dean Martin's pretty sexist
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remember the quarterfinals stickers
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remember his dancers on the Dean Martin
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oh do I oh my god they were like solid
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gold before solid gold they were really
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handsome women well think about think
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about Jill st. John no I can't no don't
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say and Margaret had a super I was going
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that I know and market on the Dean
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Martin show God now now i would be our
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5th Red Door now fast-forward to Keisha
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that the lady with the dollar sign your
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name her baby over someones for home in
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a music video and try to tell me tell me
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tell me that's probably have seven if
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you have seven you're gonna see cakey
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dollar sciences lobbyists literally
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literally literally over a lobby
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microphone i think of it like this John
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I think of it like a minibar call em oh
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I think you look at minibar like that's
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a lot of these a lot of these services
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are like a mini bar where you go there
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and you open it up and you have a pretty
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good idea of what kind of stuff is in
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there and like if you want anything else
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you're probably going to have to find it
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or steal it from somewhere else and hurt
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their talk about the time I was think
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that the the the brand-new hilton hotel
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in austin now and John Flansburg shows
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up in my room and he's got the guy who
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made that that documentary the crews
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have you ever seen that about the guy
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who's who gives you it gives tours of
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New York City but a and he's like on a
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double-decker bus like talking about the
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architecture in the history of New York
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but he's making it all up
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haha it's all just a lie
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so John Flansburg get this guy show up
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at my hotel room and Flansburg precedes
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to open up my minibar and then you know
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and then all of a sudden there's like 35
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people in my room
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people like people there's a guy like
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cutting calluses off his feet to make
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somebody pissed somebody in a top hat
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and there's a guy with a with a
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cockatiel thinks brothers like room
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service and I might like i was i was
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about to post about to call it a night
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anyway plans bring opens up the minibar
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and out it all goes into the room and
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this is one of those hilton hotel many
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bars with like full bottles of red wine
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oh dear and you know who knows what else
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like shrimp chips
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I don't know what's in there selling
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kids it goes out into the room and the
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bed the party rages until the wee hours
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and then after I finally kick everybody
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else and I make the guy pick up his
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calluses and take him out got the guy
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with the bird and I'm kicking everybody
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out plans brings the last to go and he
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turns around and he's slaps a 2000
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that's gonna be like a good party kid
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good job see you next week kidding no
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hay he actually thought that would cover
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even a fraction of that I you know he's
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just using this was a monkey's IDK screw
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with you there's no way beautiful boot
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the cheapest bottle of wine in
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perspective $85 know maybe maybe he only
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eats out of other people's many bars
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medication that's possibly you know I
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you know I've known him a long time but
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I think he may travel with that group of
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people i think there's 35 people waiting
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for his waiting for him to boom he just
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goes boop and then
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Oh every any hotel room can become it's
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a mad mad mad world hit gonna get email
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that's the 20 them right there right
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there on the dresser
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good good party kids his sentence for
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you the cruise is unavailable to stream
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just search for netflix nothing see the
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cruise is unavailable to stream one of
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the great films of our time
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yeah now it is frustrating and dad
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ya-ya-ya-ya-ya anyone about the internet
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yeah but you know there's this deeper
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thing and adjusted to return quickly to
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that to that idea though
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and one of the things that I that I find
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so fascinating about you and I find so
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unintentionally sickeningly inspiring
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about you
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mm you're welcome it is a I don't know
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is that i don't know how to describe it
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but not lonely putting this believe it
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this way like when I go and let's just
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say in the abstract going visit with
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people I i sometimes get the feeling and
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it's not stipulate this is what shows
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that I'm Way out of touch i'm not
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showing that i'm like a cool outside i'm
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showing that i'm like a psychopath to
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the rest of the world is like that
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conversation that you Kathleen had with
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the very nice people Rhapsody who are
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they were lovely
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they're lovely people the one of the one
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of the co-founders cousin was my wife's
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best friend I admire their servers their
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wedding and so they're wonderful
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wonderful people but you what you're
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describing is not unusual at all which
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is first of all that's really super
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fucking clueless like you know and when
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I mentioned MC Hammer because there was
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a time I remember when MC Hammer
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announced that he was going to be
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launching a new site that was going to
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be the YouTube of dance videos and so
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you can already guess what the joke is
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no there's already a youtube videos
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right and what's called you do exactly
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and and so you know when somebody when
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somebody says something like we want to
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be I'm just toss this out but we want to
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be the social we want to insert pictures
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we want to be sure like we want to be
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like we have an interactive music
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engagement platform that we think will
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make us the the Twitter of streaming
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music like they really feel like that's
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what they know how to build right they
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know how to build that stuff they know
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there needs to be a social media
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component to it but like the frustrating
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part is like several levels of
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frustrating and that to me which is like
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first of all I'm supposed to sit there
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are you just sit there and act like that
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makes any fucking sense at all
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you know what you really want me to do
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what you really want me to do is go and
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produce content for you for free and act
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like that is benefiting me to be
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basically pouring myself and my
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credibility into this thing that you're
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not willing to to see to me is not that
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interesting and it's not really going to
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do that much for me you want me to as my
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as we take back my church you want me to
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basically put my candle under a bushel
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basket you want exclusivity that does
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not benefit me or my fans at all fans
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fuck fans people who are vaguely
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interested in anything that you do to to
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go and put that into this little silo
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that nobody can see and and then you
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know rap public service as around isn't
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helping anybody my own my question to
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you is when people in your church say
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put your candle under a bushel basket
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would be talking about butt sex but also
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call that taking the road to Damascus em
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then they call it they call it a free
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brabus basket so much shit goes down
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there the selonians that's what you
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that's not a place but go on and we
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decided one what is the deal with that
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yeah I purpose that you know this light
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under a bushel basket and I've never
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understood like what
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yeah I need to be like if you have a if
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you have a if your skill or a gift if
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God has given you a gift it's your
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obligation to share with the world much
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like you have no right but you don't
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even own a bishop bushel basket
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I you know I have a collection of bushel
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basket but I i I don't I don't I don't
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talk about it a lot of money there's a
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lot i was at trader joe's today I'd or
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drew listen I do have a collection of
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vintage trader joes bags and then I saw
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the other night I ran into a friend of
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mine there who used to be
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Nirvana's front-of-house guy back in the
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old days
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great sound man
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and he also had an amazing collection of
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trader joes bags did you guys trade
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going all the way back and use trades
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like we like baseball cards you get a
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roberto clemente for Steve Garvey or
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something when I had a couple of them in
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their original packaging it never been
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used i just take a minute out of the
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store let me mention that it's in bag
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handbag a so so that was you know that
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was a moment but yet it is it a small
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I'm so good
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no no I was just I was just going to say
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that like so many things i have only
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read the Bible once and it was a long
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time ago and I don't remember it
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that's okay um there's a lot of
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anecdotes to come up from the Bible that
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are that are kind of get to know but
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it's um yeah it's hard with my wife
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because she's a heathen oh right yeah
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she doesn't have she doesn't have I
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don't go too deep on this but you know
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she and well first of all let me just
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let me just say that the problem is that
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people talk about reading the Bible and
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learned as a child that my grandfather
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had actually read the Bible he spent a
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Republicans mates made sense and so he's
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he'd read the Bible but the thing is
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group that i'm from which is a lot of
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people in Christianity you're reading
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of like a like a Marvel story arc like
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as a kid you're memorizing some verses
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you're reading some chapters you're
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studying things right you might learn
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about you know the nature of faith or
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something like I don't know that many
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people who have actually who haven't
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have read it all the way through and you
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do you read it all the way through
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there's just so much stuff in that's
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capable well-adjusted young Testament
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you can just gloss over
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I don't want to read the letters to the
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Corinthians I don't want to read the
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letters to the Thessalonians is Alana
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cans because reading other people's mail
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nice guy John it's a federal crime and
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people all these years have been reading
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all these letters that were all these
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different i'm literally i'm going to
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save them literally going to cut that
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haha letter to the Romans mail fraud bak
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oh brother you know that women are you
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cutting it out because it cheesy know
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it's nuanced it's nuanced anyway there
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might be a revenue opportunity here
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because but here's the problem most of
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the people who bring people in
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I gotta don't want to start an ass but
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this is what what you're describing and
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what I have encountered in the past is
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what they really want is to talk to you
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into being on their side about something
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that's kind of silly right
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they want you to do about it they want
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you to link to them and they and they
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want you to basically stand up there on
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the dais with wearing a carnation with
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your arm around them and saying I pass
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my wifeys my benediction onto this
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project and like but I'm only passing my
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plantation on to your project
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well here's the key here is my question
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to you and this is a question that we
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all we all need answers 24 is I know
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there are people out there who are
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making the thing and they want me to do
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something for them and they have X
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number of dollars and there the first
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thing they do is ask me to do it for
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free and most of the time I said yes
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my question to you is how do I retro
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actively go back and kill those people
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oh that's a really take their money
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well maybe happy to just that there's a
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lot of angles to that
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well first of all depends on which of
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the team major kinds of time-travel
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timelines you believe in EM we don't
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have time to go into that in a lot of
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detail right now right
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but one thing i would do is we have a
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kind of a tacit agreement to not talk
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about time travel anymore and I'm very
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tempted to sometimes but i'm setting
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that funny movie aside like a good movie
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like I honestly don't want to talk about
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time travel because it does and and i
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have to tell you John a lot of the
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literature that i'm reviewing these days
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by which i mean all the comic books
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every there there is a lot of time
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travel and it's sometimes a little hard
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to follow what if would have you the
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what what if the universe was designed
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to avoid over paradox
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and the only way time-travel Israel but
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the only way that you can time travel is
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that you go back
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it's always in reverse and you always go
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back to one month before you were born
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and you always die on the day that you
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are born would you go to digg it can go
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see this is exactly what i was trying to
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know I start lining up the ambience
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ah ok where's my orange juice
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there's an adventure time comic that i'm
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going to buy and send to you you should
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be watching adventure time anyway that
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addresses this is the time machine that
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always takes you back to this exact same
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moment and it's used to communicate
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effect but not going to cut to the chase
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because I know your time constraint and
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we're so one of those places i would
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start with one of the ones that was
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particularly egregious about agreeing to
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letting you work for free that they
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didn't even like make a big like that
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impact for their wallet you know like i
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do and i would go there i would
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literally you should you should take off
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your clothes pick up a garbage can throw
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it through the window i set the place on
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fire and say and then the next day go to
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sell and say where's my pay but that
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wasn't my movie had three endings it was
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very frustrating to me i am really i am
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really on the I feel like I'm on the
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threshold now
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yeah I'm on customer career-wise I got
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that from that interview I didn't know
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about your keynoting I'm doing all this
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isn't that up on urban dictionary by the
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way keynote is another kind of thing is
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like saloniki yeah it's different from
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Keystone don't like that's like the road
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to Damascus yeah it's like it's like
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watching a Pennsylvania the Keystone
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keynote 1500 Keystone
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keynote 1500 Keystone
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yeah ok keystone and that you have a bit
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like seriously I you you're getting more
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offers from people to come and speak
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somewhere or two to present its curious
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because i always thought the the
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challenge 10 years ago was a in Seattle
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there are lots and lots of local bands
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become national bands and there's this
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there's this booking hierarchy or like a
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local pedigree where if you're if if
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they do it if they do a a piece on you
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on them the local morning news the
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morning news is always going to say
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local band X you know local band band of
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horses played a big show last night you
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know like those guys don't they don't
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understand but as that guy worked there
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for a really long time that particular a
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little man pain of forces although all
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local band the fleet foxes really doing
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amazing things these killers aren't real
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killers although they do kill it rock
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music only rock music I'm into is my
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rocking chair
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don't call the fire department it's just
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an arcade fire so anyway 10 years ago 15
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years ago the last thing the long
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winters wanted to be was a local band
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because that guy the guy on the morning
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news he's never gonna get it but the but
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the Booker's and the the people that do
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that you know like sasquatch festival is
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a national festival but it also features
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a lot of local bands and you want to get
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banned to be a net you want your band to
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be from seattle but to be a national
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band and not be because the local bands
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get 500 bucks the National bands given
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all that's super interesting like your
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you would be on same interview but like
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you don't think you might be like a
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second stage like a Lollapalooza like
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year over in the back kind of thing you
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want to be so you want it you at the
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hometown team though where you want to
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be big enough that we'll of course we're
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going to have Seattle's long winters
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play because they have a national
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presence with the idiotic you wanna be
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at that play at that level right
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right right exactly and the end up that
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thing about it is that if you are a you
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know fewer if you are a festival
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headliner of course there's no there's
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no question about it but a band like the
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long winters which is in the middle of
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the pack somewhere where you feel like
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okay we are getting invited to play
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festivals other places so we are you
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know we are at the level of certainly
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national and international band but
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there are all those people around
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Seattle have known as since we were
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coming up who still want to every once
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in a while like throw a little bit of
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local band shade your direction as
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either like a like a like a kick in the
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knee or also as a like cost-saving
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method like oh yeah you know you guys
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are pretty big local band like well will
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smooth the musical equivalent of filling
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up on bread right it's like and now I
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mean like the state's going to come the
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freshman college of lift on a bunch of
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this hour doubt
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yeah slow your roll there with this
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local band talk is what I was used to
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say and over time you know I i
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established myself as a a and and
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continue to to aspire to establish
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myself as a national figure of national
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media figure well so recently the city
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of seattle has started throwing all this
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Seattle action at me who the mayor's
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office asked me to be on the steering
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committee for the mayor and the and the
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you know the weekly is like wants me to
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be a kind of editor-at-large in them the
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local radio stations asking me lo look
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you know kind of give us any feelers i'm
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getting all these feelers from all these
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from all these Northwest institutions
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that on the one hand it feels very
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appropriate a man my age with as much
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gray in his beard as i have should start
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to think about you know and it's and
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it's appropriate like intern in terms my
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father would understand like I could
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become a
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of Seattle personnage you're like a
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rockstar emeritus yeah in a way that the
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in a way that i already am in a way that
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I've been kind of trying to be but now
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I'm starting to see like every one of
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those positions every one of those
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in a kind of local militia and they and
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it's all in all I its it feels like at
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the expense of anyone in New York or
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Hollywood or London giving a shit about
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me you know like at a certain point when
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you are the one you are the editor of
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the Seattle you know the Seattle capitol
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hill times and dispatch you're no longer
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you hear you know you're no longer
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relevant to the village voice editor
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even though it's a people know it's a
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prominent position even though it's a
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step up from like being just a freelance
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jackass
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so this regional this creeping kind of
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regional status imac I actually feel
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kind of well and certainly ambivalent
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about but also a little threatened by
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because it's appealing you know it's
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like oh yeah
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the mayor wants me to do something are
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nice somebody and I special it's like
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well yeah but also like are you are you
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going to become a like a local real
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estate agent like are you gonna get a
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Pontiac dealership here somewhere and
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just be like Seattle's the guy that
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hosts the morning news program basically
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local celeb so is it a matter of that
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there's a risk of associating yourself
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tombeau de was a was a writer that mean
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biggest salmon you ever saw and what
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reject its but that's the thing in
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area you know like well then there was
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the year they had the outhouse races and
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jenny has its trip you know and and in
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he's abused big wheel and then he
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parlayed that into the national campaign
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for super 8 was that Motel 760 6 16
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candles and i think it is yet now let's
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look at it until six
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speaking of sixteen Candles Molly
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Ringwald is playing tonight in Seattle
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with her jazz combo shipshape shape lai
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Shi are you
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yeah yeah sorry that was my forehead
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that's my percussion instrument unlike
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the max roach of what the fuck
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ok she whored if you leave so what this
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no I mean she's horny does she do like I
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could see her I can see you're doing out
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two sacks
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no I she plays piano I don't think she
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does anything I think she stands in
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France she's come back she's she stormed
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the beaches she came back to America
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like our lives
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yeah and she I think she stands in front
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of a jazz combo wearing a chanteuse
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hmm maybe with a Chinese collar maybe a
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slit up the side food and she sings
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Eartha Kitt music with no balls
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well that's my guess sounds execrable I
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you know I follow her on Twitter and the
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only reason I flavors
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as I keep well when she first showed up
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but she ever mention the question first
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heard about Twitter and she had like
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fifteen hundred followers i was so
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excited I'm like I'm one more you got in
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the the ground floor bring along like
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I'm right there Molly and I sent her a
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couple of replies like where she would
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say oh my god you guys this is so
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amazing and I'd be like yeah welcome
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Molly Ringwald office yeah welcome to
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twitter it's super fun year law and she
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never replied happen and I was and so at
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her it doesn't hurt now I know what it
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feels like now that you never do
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now i know i follow all these comic guys
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and they won't have anything to do with
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me I i got that 10 times more followers
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and they do they will not have anything
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to do with me and it breaks my heart
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that one didn't I want to be in their
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circles it did me too i followed I
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followed Jane Wiedlin for a while haha
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man i followed her and I get and I kept
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doing it I could play like totally oh my
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god you're so light model if the kind of
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thing that you personally scroll past
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thousand times a day awful roffle rocket
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smiley faces on cog and never got
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anything back from her and then I really
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like we've got the meat
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yeah yeah but anyway shaded mode yeah
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well so am I so I kept boner and I and I
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had I had to I had to go through that
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whole period we're like don't reply just
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don't reply to work there should be a
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name for that there's a period where you
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started interviewing like that you
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jumped in right you got the ground floor
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you may be laid back just a little bit
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you wait for your pitch
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we jumped in nothing ok so you hang back
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a little bit you try again right now
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you're not made a fucking stone maybe
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after a week or so you get one more
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really good one in there nothing and
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then there should be a name for that
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period where you going mi just a putz
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what what am i doing
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sucks to be me sucks to be me i am
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basically a receptacle for PR for like
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for immediate release
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nobody fucking cares John well so anyway
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I stick around because molly ringwald is
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constantly tweeting photographs of
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herself but she's always like it's
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photographed her
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assistant took on her phone from her
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standing in front of a venue or
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something or a picture you know picture
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like look at this she says ! and then my
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sister she has a phone to her assistance
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that take a picture of me in front of
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this venue i think so i think that's
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what happens but also she she does her
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own pics and she's like look at this and
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then and you click on it like what is it
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gonna be and it's a picture of a bunch
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of rutabagas yeah and so she's one of
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those people but i keep every time I
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click on one of these pictures I think
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tonight's the night that she's had three
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glasses side bridge and she's taking a
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picture of herself in the bathroom
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getting sideboob now she's dead she's in
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a towel and she's like look at this and
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it's like and this is gonna be the
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selfie I've been waiting for and so I
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keep I keep clicking on these pictures
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of Luther burgers and pictures of little
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dogs and you know pictures of her shoes
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on the train and all the stuff because
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I'm just dying for that one night when
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she will delete it immediately like I
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have to be vigilant
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oh no totally but one night she's gonna
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hit this she's going to just be standing
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in front of mirror and she'd be like I'm
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gonna get my money you know what I mean
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she's three glasses of wine
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she said she had inadvisable third
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Goblet of chardonnay and just for fun
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she takes she takes a shot it was framed
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a little poorly something the light
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catches it wrong and suddenly jon jon is
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in Thessalonians big time
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that's right boom Oh command look at
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these rude but i wish i was completely
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alien to that idea i I've done the same
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it's terrible and I mean really Molly
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Ringwald i can think of like three
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people that I that I am that I would
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even three people two of whom are on
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Twitter Molly Ringwald's the only one
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I'm currently like just clicking on
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ahead free really hoping against hope
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knowing it's never going to happen
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knowing she's a mother of two
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yeah that lesser hoping against hope
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that one day she's just gonna be drunk
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in a hotel bathroom and say it is said
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that picture to the world
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of my booty send huh i'm gonna be there
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like Snoopy perched in a tree as a as a
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4-1 flying itself when Snoopy would be a
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vulture and purchase you're ready I am
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you made a right click like click boom
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boom saved saved huh
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I think I think I think you are onto
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something and I think you've got a
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problem that a lot of us have and and I
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have to say I think you're facing
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something that you have much more
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certainty about five years ago which is
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where somebody's coming up to you and
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they're not offering to have a grown-up
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business transaction with you like a
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grown-up business transactions when you
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go to someone and say I would like a big
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mac and i have four dollars will that
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work out instead of going in and asking
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if if you have three hours for a meeting
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to talk about this initiative that we
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have about is food related properties
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this is the problem that we have a big
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mac is clearly worth two people for
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dollars i guess i have a Big Mac in
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years but it is unclear people what I am
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worth and the scale of what I'm
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potentially worth is it goes from
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$50,000 to zero dollars
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oh I can't use your instincts tell you
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how much I understand exactly what
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you're saying yeah you don't Charlie
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gasps don't you partly guess based on
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like what their budget is and what you
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know what they think it's worth so this
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guy writes me a letter today i've been
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offered the job co-producing the debut
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album of a girl who contributed to a hit
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single that went that went big
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so this girl is coming and I need a
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diagram for that so there's a little
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help reduce ok hit single that made it
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that that that that made a million that
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sold a million copies this girl
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contributed a portion of the of the hook
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now she's making her own album and she
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wants me to produce it but she also
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wants this other guy who actually owns a
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studio and understands engineering to
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also produce it because I think he's
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gonna let her use the studio for free
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how much let us use the studio for free
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and so her manager writes me and says
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how much we're not going to pay you guys
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anything
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how many percentage points do you want
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on the final recording and I go now I've
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been managing myself in my own career
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for my entire career and this is the
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type of question that comes up a lot but
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here we have a situation where they're
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not giving me anything
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it is possible that this that this
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single in this record will do what most
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things do and just go away but because
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of this connection to this big hit
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there is also the possibility that this
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will generate some amount of money and
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that my percentage of it is not
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insignificant but huh
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but there's this other guy who's soon
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supposedly co-producing it with me so I
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wrote the manager back and I was like
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what are you giving the other guy and he
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writes back and says what we're trying
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to figure that out right now
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oh and its head up when you figure it
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out let me know right that I haven't
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heard back but welcome to welcome to
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club dick can't keep a Gib you know
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running my business that way for the
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rest of your life time for a really dude
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for a long time
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9i particularly i'm very grateful people
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have any interest in anything that I do
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have you said that I'm not gotten a lot
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of speaking offers that basically come
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down to like
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like will fly you out here because we
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only need a 20-minute talk so we're
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going to what we know India 20-minute
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talk you coming out here and speak at
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the fred X and adherent tipsy and as you
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know the Fred conference is very popular
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so the fedex things growing franchise
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that's what a lot of exposure lot of it
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yep get that the asp ala community
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benefit but but I mean and they'll say
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like you know and i'll say well okay i
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finally got to a point where i would I
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got a little more okay with saying well
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new projects that involve out of town
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out of the area travel started this
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amount is that your budget and your
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ballpark let's talk and there that there
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if they had more monocles they would
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fall out of their Island out of the pond
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sundays are there are shattering Oh Baba
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have you not heard of red X have you not
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heard of rent you know like the thing is
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you want a 20-minute talk but for me to
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go there and do that is three days of my
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time i'm not exaggerating cuz i have to
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fly there i have to be there for a day
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doesn't matter if you win 20 minutes 40
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minutes or nine hours that's still a day
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and then I gotta come home and stuff
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like that and I and I finally stopped
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driving myself crazy with that if my
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grandfather is an indication you don't
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have to go home but you take a business
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trip and you don't come back
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just keep going is that right go on for
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cigarettes and thank you write that down
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at certain points when I had a little
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extra minute or two and fairly provoking
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the person which I almost always do
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yes I what's riiiight look gimme it
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gimme a quick estimate on and uh would
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you be able to fly out here for 20
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minutes
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go ahead and buy the air airline ticket
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and we'll see based on ticket sales for
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20 minute talk like how it turns out
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because it's great exposure and I think
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that's basically what these people are
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saying to you if work is valuable
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I've had this happen also when stuff
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that I've done has appeared in different
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places i'm going to call it stealing
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but when stuff that I've done has
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appeared in different place when it's on
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a t-shirt or in a book or whatever on
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somebody's RSS feed and my feeling is
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like you know if you just want to steal
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it like steal it but don't expect me to
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like on your side about it and don't
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expect me to promote the thing that you
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took like I'll be fine i got plenty more
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ideas i'm not worried about that the
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part that galls me is the part where
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like they want me to now promote the
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thing that they are not really paying
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for so it's just a never retweet my
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tumblr i should know what i should do i
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I should facebook or myspace a lot more
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I'm trying to say is if it's something
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is worth money or something is something
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is valuable
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it's worth even if it's not worth paying
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for it's definitely worth negotiating
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and it shows a ridiculous
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I'm sorry to have gone through all that
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to get this one very simple point but it
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was extremely bad faith to be an adult
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he talks to another and another adult as
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though they don't work for a living
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it's really it's really disrespectful
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and anyone who does that should be
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punched in the nose because it's a
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really crummy thing to do and then to
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frame it in a way we're not like you're
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the asshole because you want help this
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up-and-coming star you know well how
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about this how about you pay me like
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what people get paid to co-produce a
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record you keep your points and how
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about you pay me and if there's another
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one of those you like my work I like how
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it turned out how we talk about points
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after that
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how about you first pay me like a
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gentleman from my work and and maybe not
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even worried about the name of that
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person because the thing is now you're
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basically buying stock you're buying
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your time is it is basically the
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purchase of stock you have bought stock
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in this person who contribute a hook to
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a song right and I think you're worth
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more than that it's good exposure is
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really good exposure and the thing is
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that that thought the entire music
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business and in fact the entire
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entertainment business is predicated on
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the fact that eighty-five percent of the
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people have no self-esteem at all and
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the fifteen percent of the people who
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have what appears to be a self esteem i
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have no self-esteem either they're just
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they're they're just bullies trying to
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try to kind of manufacture self-esteem
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by pushing people around
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so all of us you know we're all just
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like twisting in the wind here going to
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somebody called
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some somebody return my boob
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yeah there's certainly days where it
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feels like that and and you're sitting
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around maybe someday you get five loops
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and start raising your prices and then
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maybe it's been awhile since you've got
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a bloop and you go with sure I'll clean
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up after the mayor like you get a sash
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five loops
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yeah yeah well all the things that i
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have agreed to do this year all the
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keynote speeches all the appearances
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public appearances that I have done so
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far this year and we're talking about
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what is it now it's tax day it's April
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15 what let's see what I've been paid
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all don't say I've been paid for two
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ok I've been paid twice this year so far
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and i have done 1,000 things right so
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well-prepared everybody you know all the
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young people they see me and they're
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like that guy eats gold nuggets that guy
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just sits around and he just pooped
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well you know I i have a lot to say
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about this that would not be interesting
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to our audience but but I will say this
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you should have your mom not in that way
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but you should have your mom speak on
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your behalf i hate having to try to
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explain to people why what I do is
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valuable because i think it's it's not a
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chorus i think it is I think it's ugly
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to sit around and argue with people
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about whether what you do is valuable
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but if you have somebody like Marcia
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getting in front of that I think you get
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a lot accomplished i think you tell your
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mom here's what i want for a day's work
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going for a keno so my mom says too many
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other day she says i'm 78 and I'm caring
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for your daughter half the day I don't
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want to be your business manager anymore
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oh no and I said what can you drop the
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kid part
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yeah well what if what if we put the kid
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in a refrigerator box and give her a
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it sure is fine and she was like now I'm
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done 10 find your own business manager
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John our audience may not know but is it
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m is it and wanted me to disclosing that
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like is enough here to save your mom's a
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pretty important role in a lot of
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anything that turned out well you better
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roll it
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let me put it this way she'll actually
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company John for the last 15 years when
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an email shows up in my inbox by either
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for hit to my mom or i forwarded to
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pursue cracker
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ah I've been trendlines changed a lot
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less complete yes 75-percent of those
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emails from either that I said in either
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direction always came back to me with a
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question mark big asking what do you
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want me to do with just you keep didn't
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say anything just forwarded to me with
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no comments if you really do that
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yeah and then i have to go back and say
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wasn't fucking obvious what I want to do
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I want to deal with them and then our
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suit guys are like not here we're not
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your email dealers and my mom goes and
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the things that she can the things that
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you can figure it Kiki reason it's
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better you got sent home looking like
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everybody my opinion note to your shirt
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I think it's like it's taking third
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grade like you came home on the bus and
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like you're basically taking the note
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off your shirt and handing it to your
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yeah yeah yeah basically I've been doing
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that since the third grade design this I
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got expelled today why I don't know we
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read the note mom it says right here
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John doesn't work well with others John
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didn't participate in class John was
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disrupted on set things on fire
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howhow oh my god so anyway well what do
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well now i have to hire a business
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manager fuck that at the higher business
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manager who is going to do my who's
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going to handle my business and I got
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more business now than ever
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but you seem like you've got more like I
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don't actually talk about this to do
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very much but it seems like you've
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definitely ate your I don't know about
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talking about the money it seems like
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you've got stuff coming from different
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places more than other others like it
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could be that there's the car commercial
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thing that could be like who knows you
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might get on a compilation here or
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there's this distribution thing here or
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travel thing and a touring thing here
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right i mean way different from 10 years
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ago right
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so Josh my record label boss says to me
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the other day he's like so am i right
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that you want your career to be now that
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you are this person who does everything
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and is like is like on tv and writing
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books and giving speeches and you're all
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here you here at every kind of
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entertainment is that and music is like
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some portion of that is that to my right
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and at it that that is what you want
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your career to be I said know what I
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wanted was to be a rock star so that i
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could do all that other shit for fun
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that's my fucking record label didn't
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make it happen haha sundown i'm out and
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about dragon as door-to-door selling
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jokes during that was not the answer he
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was looking now about sharpening
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people's knives and Fire their touch
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selling go and giving keynote speeches
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