Ep. 69: "Campfire Spaghetti Party"
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I John hi marilyn is going good little
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trick or something
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Oh probably I probably shouldn't have
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quit drinking 18 years ago it's been
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that long it's been a long time it's
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been the life of a person who could
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serve in the military since i had a
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drink last huh
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enda kenny Hitler material i ever spent
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the whole last week just reading about
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Hitler and getting ready for our podcast
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nan now now and then this was going to
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be different it is going to be different
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i'm committed to it
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ok I got you something ready yeah John
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rod is online
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he's reading in the most that's amazing
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it almost made me cry just like the real
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one here today with my all-time favorite
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bridges it's insane it's insanely good
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that you know what ya gotta go there
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I don't you know I don't got through my
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divorce I don't want to mind that was
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something that was my divorce ro my
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divorce record you know it's a record
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about him being divorced from his mom
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oh and the XL yeah yeah that and that
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either or record you see this is gonna
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get down now John I want to talk about
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all right let's get away let's get away
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from elliott smith go right to the fact
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that we are both lucky guys happy
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middle-aged guys who are lucky to be
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it's like a crazy you know what I mean I
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look around I'm alive it off I you see
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all I see that absolutely before I
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cannot live i cannot die
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everything's great talent clearing you
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know what it's ever since we started
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trying to do this podcast tonight so I
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ash to fix the car cats like darkness
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imprisoning me that was fade to black I
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think that was the suicide and then
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Kirk's in the back just hammering
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hammering hammering didn't want it so
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it's one that's what that those alerts
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from one sought the i think i was
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playing well you know every Metallica
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song is essentially the same it starts
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out that's all
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what else I mean if you had to do it's
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not like nickelback crazy but you could
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it starts out with that like a single
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scenario guitar and then you get two or
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three morphine aerial guitars don't you
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think I mean especially in the early
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records
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did I ever tell you that did I retired
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the story about the time I was sitting
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around a campfire in the Czech Republic
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much older story it you know I on that
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alone I can't say there's just so many
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stories so I just anyway that's John I'm
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walking across the czech republic and
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video and i have read my run in to some
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teens that are there out so I'm out in
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the fields right walking through some
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fields and I find the error run into
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these teens and they're out there
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smoking cigarettes i guess or or it's a
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boy a girl and they're looking for a
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place to neck and they went out into the
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fields to do some necking and I run into
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them because i'm walking and so they
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start walking with me and they kind of
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adopted me I'm there like I'm the crazy
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American that they found out in the out
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in the field and they take me back to
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their village which is a small little
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village and they say hey why don't you
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hang out with us we're gonna have a
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campfire spaghetti party and then after
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me maybe you can take it any party
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yeah I said no I'm sorry John don't
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interrupt is a translation error i had
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never heard of it but I had never heard
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of a campfire spaghetti party before
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that sounds like three nouns they just
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look so I was intrigued
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ok and Barry ended and the icing on the
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cake was that this kid was you know he
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said maybe you can stay at my house
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Oh after the party I was like oh very
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good i would i would like very much to
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stay at your house rather than to sleep
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in a field tonight so I said sure I'll
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go the campfire spaghetti party and so
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I'm hanging out with these kids and the
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sun is going down and and they lead me
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through the village to the other side of
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the village and sure enough there's a
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campfire a bonfire and a bunch of kids
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are there and I so we're sitting around
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and pretty soon somebody whips out a
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guitar and and Czechoslovakia they have
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that guy said yeah and pretty soon
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somebody shows up with a pot of
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spaghetti that that they didn't it's not
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like they cooked at the campfire
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somebody showed up with a pot of
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spaghetti
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everybody gets a bowl and then to my
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horror to my everlasting horror
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something I had no i didn't realize
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about eastern europe until that moment
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which is that they had everybody bowl of
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spaghetti and then then the bottle of
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ketchup goes around haha oh so it's just
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it's noodles in a bowl
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it's spaghetti in a bowl and then ending
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the sauce that they expect you to put on
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it is is just catch up but they must
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have seen it in the movies and this is a
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popular dish in the Illuminations pasta
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red that's right put some red sauce on
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it and what do we have we have we have
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so anyway so we're eating this
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disgusting in a spaghetti and ketchup
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and the guitars going around and and
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these kids who found me on the field you
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know they tell their friends she's a
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musician because I made the mistake of
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telling them I was a musician
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this is 1999
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yes 19 and so everybody's in a hurry to
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get this guitar to me like I'll get it
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you know playing song playing song
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playing song and I'm to mirroring and
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saying I don't know any songs all the
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only songs i know our songs I wrote and
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you don't want to hear any of those and
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they're like no no plays the song played
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you know american singer guy plays the
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song and I know better than to do it
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I know it's the wrong move but I'm
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really on the spot and so I kind of you
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know acquiesce they hand me the guitar
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i'm like i'm shy and I'm like all right
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I'll play one of my songs they're like
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yeah everybody gathers around there's 25
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kids around this bonfire at this point
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and i played me me know which is the
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only thing i can think of to play the
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only song i can think of at that moment
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is Mimi a song of my own composition and
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a beautiful layered nuanced non campfire
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school that's very that's generous of
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you yes but it's a beautiful song that
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it'sit's it is truly not a campfire song
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to play for a bunch of check teenagers
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making halloween and high and you know
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i'm playing and i'm getting the vibe
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from around the campfire i'm getting the
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non-acceptance five and so I'm play you
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know I started closing my eyes and the
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sweat is beating up on my forehead like
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I'm really blowing it here with these
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this is my big moment to audition my my
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music for these teens and I get to the
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end of me and there's like nothing just
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like like a just like kind of polite
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applause and some grimaces and the
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teenagers who were so proud of me a
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moment before i was there big catch and
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their American guy now they're just
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embarrassed by me and the guy sitting
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next to me almost grabs the guitar out
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of my hand
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Angela launches into Metallica what's
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the stupid song from The Black Album
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from the from the with the big hippo
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enter sandman i'll come on and and it
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might do to get they were gonna do and
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and all of a sudden the whole vibe
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changes and it's like it's like James
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Hetfield is there they are so excited
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all these kids are so thrilled that this
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guy can play enter sandman and I just
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like I'm invisible to them i have become
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now it's creepy that I'm there I'm 10
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years older than the whole this person
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at the campfire and now I'm like some
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cool people called blanket haha and i
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sit there just kind of stewing in my own
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flop sweat and shame slip from catch
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from i see that you know like trying to
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eat as much ketchup and pastas I can't
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because i've only been i've been living
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on leaves and snails for the two weeks
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prior and then at the end of the
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campfire night and you know it also i
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don't drink which is which is incredibly
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suspect in any campfire situation like
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the old creep in the molester glasses
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who doesn't drink and he's waiting for
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everybody else to get drunk so you can
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flip in the air and and and and we gave
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him a guitar he played this song with it
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and his tears were mixing with his sweat
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at like everything about it was wrong
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and then at the end of the night
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it starts to rain the campfire party
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splits up and the kid who you know the
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kid who was like maybe you can stay at
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my house he's like you know
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okay come with me and he's really
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reluctant because I'm an embarrassment
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to him now we go over to his house he
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says wait wait here he goes inside he
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comes out 30 seconds later he's like oh
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yeah my mom says no oh no after all of
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that and now it's the middle of the
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night and it's pouring rain display this
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should have stood under I should have
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stood under window and on me
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so so the kid watching across the street
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to like a grain warehouse that his
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grandfather owns apparently people dying
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this all the time the kid can't open the
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door so he says well you can sleep here
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on the covered loading dock and so i
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unroll my sleeping bag on this concrete
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loading dock under a like arclight like
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under a loading dock light and I lay
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there in the rain on this cement loading
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dock and i think i am at my bottom
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he said you guys got shown up by a check
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boy playing enter sandman i said i have
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found it i found my bottom here it is
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and you're not even that thing is and
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you weren't even you know drinking at
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the time
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yeah and the thing is he may I wasn't
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even close to my bottom Earl and I had
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no idea what was the weather other
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campfires I just on the trip you just
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always down in neulohe there's a person
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duplo just literally slept on the beach
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in Noorvik it was after that
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oh how was that was the bottom I that
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was that was my prior bottom now this
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was a new low but the following morning
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I woke up and it wasn't even that I woke
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up because I didn't sleep I just lay
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there on this concrete pad kind of like
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tossing and turning until the first
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first light of day and I got up and I
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started walking
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it's just like let me get out of this
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same hole and it was and the sun was out
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it was a beautiful day the rain had
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stopped and the roads there are those
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little country roads you know the roads
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had all that steam coming off of them
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that the the rain was just just done in
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the Sun was coming up get that like
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softer snow it was it was it was a dub
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absolutely beautiful morning and then I
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completely covered with tiny frogs what
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stepping on frogs and the frogs are all
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tiny they're like the size of a of a
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silver dollar and so I couldn't walk I
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couldn't kill these frogs I had to just
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stand there in the road and watch this
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migration it's like tide of emerald
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green silver dollar frogs that it was
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like an hour of an hour of my life
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watching this you can be thinking that
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whole time right yeah you said about
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frogs you think about to get you
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thinking about your bottom i'm running
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the whole I'm running it all you know
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and and while i'm sitting there like a
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car drives by and kills 10,000 for you
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bastard
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oh yeah just that it's just a
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day-in-the-life just happened to you I
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mean not the frogs but I mean you know
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that happens to be a surprising amount
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of time the frogs frogs now typing here
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window and press it's your job as its
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nails and i will talk about the ants but
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you know the snails a couple nights ago
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you know it really is any amount of
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moisture but especially rain it's just
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the whole ground just covered with
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snails in there they're all fucked
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they don't have a chance in san
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francisco i got a high school kid set on
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fire yet the day but yeah my daughter
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plant the playground and him is him is a
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drug user
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we're hanging out at the five-year-old
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playground and i'm pretty sure i see
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what they're doing
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my daughter is now running over to the
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next playground and I walk over and I
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say what you doing there and you know it
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was like no he's leaving the house as
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nails look so you're a put a lighter to
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as you have said might be time to look
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for a girlfriend haha a which is a great
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go-to for when you're talking to young
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men it really pretty much always works
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I got a letter did I tell you this i got
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a letter from a kid I got a letter from
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kid who said i was so I was following
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you on twitter and you said something on
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Twitter about all men being terrible
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where he said something that men are
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worse than women
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apparently i tweeted in response to
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somebody who was saying that men are bad
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i think it's a pretty safe statement and
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I said matter but men are worse than
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women and so this kid sends me an email
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old he was but i inferred from the
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letter that he was that he was a young
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person in college and he said I am a
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young i'm a young straight guy and all
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my all my friends are lesbians and they
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are always telling me how bad men are
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good example of a good time a good
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straight guy but sometimes i wonder if
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it's even possible
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can you advise and i said i wrote back
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and said I advise you stop hanging out
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with lesbians and get a girlfriend
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no question yeah because the best way to
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get here than anybody John the best way
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to demonstrate that straight guys are
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good is to be a good is to be a good
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straight guy to one person
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don't don't try and the country and
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converts it good
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straight straight guy to one person just
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be a good straight man let's begin with
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that's right that's right start start
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being nice to one gal that you like
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don't try and don't try to impress all
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the lesbians at your height at your
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school about how great you are
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go find one girl and be nice to her and
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he never wrote me back
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I think he's probably stewing over my
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advice like I would love to reach out to
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that guy and really just getting a snack
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because i'm just guessing a lot of those
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ladies had to sit around listening to
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talk about why girls don't like him you
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know i I've been that guy and I've been
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looking to to protect everybody's rights
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and it was not good for anybody
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I remember a time when all my friends
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all my all my closest friends were
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lesbians and i was there i was there
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straight boy mascot we have a name for
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that we can't use anymore
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didn't give a name for that well i guess
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i guess i guess this bag die
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yeah I guess that would be a life again
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maybe the less press bag let's Prezi ok
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please address all correspondence to
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John Roderick friends
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yeah that's that's what I was a little
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guys let's play volleyball and I don't
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know what the heck I was you know what I
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what it was I was sitting her i was i
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was hoping that that was hoping I was
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going to I don't remember what it may be
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maybe I was thinking that some of them
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were gonna we're gonna get over being
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lesbians but i don't think that was it i
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think it was that I gotta hide
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i well it's I think it's this it's the
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same thing with the bags you think that
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you it's that you get to interact with
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somebody who is the opposite sex where
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the issue of sex is not present so
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you're here before I i think it is
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totally it makes a hundred percent it
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makes a hundred percent sense if you
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like to dance
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it seems to me that in either the
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situation's fag hag or less press it
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makes a lot of sense if he just going to
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go out and dance
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I don't like to dance SE and that we
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undergo i don't i don't want to keep
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using that term that we were using
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because it's normative but i but i think
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those bros those news pretty good and
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it's solid I think we can still we can
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use it and then it because the the
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people that will be offended by it are
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are going to gonna take it's cool it's
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gonna take some time for them to get
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caught up with how smart and funny it is
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i think that they can be offended by but
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by then we'll be let's just stay away
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from PETA um but you know I actually you
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are on a couple things first of all I
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think we've talked about in the past is
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are both of our if I perceive this
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correctly for you as well as me or
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ineffectiveness at first starting out
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being kind of like envious or angry
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about our friends who who were sexually
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potent right remember talking about you
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know the the our friends who are going
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out and you know finger banging and
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stuff and how we felt kind of betrayed
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by a drone
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Adam still from ya know i was i was
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heavy real heavy and and but i think
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that apartment
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this is other thing that is not i think
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it exists without respect any given
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gender and sexual orientation mix-up
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which is that everybody's always kind of
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in the back of their minds thinking
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they're going to be able to flip the
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client at some point and i think it's i
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think it's it's true you you see it on
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all conceivable sides you know it could
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be that's you know what even could be
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somebody who's married like look at all
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the especially I guess see mostly women
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but men to her like oh they're going to
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voice to divorce their spouse and we'll
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finally be able to go you know
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yeah we'll be together live live on the
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Isle of Man together or whatever and
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what I mean I also i think there is the
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Isle of Man is that a fantasy for people
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i don't know III really pulled it out as
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quick as I could
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yeah i would google it except my
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keyboard is still broken John I ordered
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the thing that you said how i ordered it
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from my phone use your telephone
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you can shop from your phone now you
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have done that done that a lot anyway
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it's probably rathole to get into but
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you know it's really not so far away
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from guitar guy you know I'm you sit
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around and and you have a really mixed
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up idea about where you should be
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focusing your attention and then what
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you should do once you've gotten that
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attention
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yeah it really it really is an
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affliction and it's there
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there are a lot of things that make me
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cringe about every aspect of my life but
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if I'm really I go back and I and I
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allow myself just for the blink of an
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eye to think about those kinds of times
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there's the ones that really really make
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me cringe
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you are the times when I got really
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really wrong for the times when I was
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guitar guy or the times when I thought I
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was you know as speaking the truth to
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you know because I I couldn't fingerbang
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well i was thinking about this the other
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day there was a there was a hell of a
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pretty long period in my life where I
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when I was in the company of a girl that
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I liked and she liked me and it was
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clear that we liked one another and we
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were going someplace down the street
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we're walking somewhere I would put my
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arm around her
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and she would put her arm around me and
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we would we would attempt to make our
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way down the sidewalk in that
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three-legged race cadence of a tall guy
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with his arm around his girlfriend and
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her with hit her arm around him and
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there is absolutely no tempo or pace
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that we can walk comfortably in that
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configuration like her hip
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she's going up and I'm going down her
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hip is bumping into me like those people
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that are able to walk down the street
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with their hands or with their arms
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around one another even likelike for the
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freewheelin bob dylan likely yeah yeah
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girl walking down the street and acting
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like that's something you could do for
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more than half a block
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yeah I've got my hand on her hip she's
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got her arm around my waist and we are
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crashing into each other like two
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battleships tied up to the same dock in
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a storm like there is no they were but
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there's no there's no case like the the
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sidewalk is just this stormy sea and yet
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we feel because we are young and in love
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that we should be walking this way we
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should be embracing as we walk down the
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street and I realized the other day it's
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been 15 years since i made the mistake
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of thinking you could walk down the
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street side by side with your arm around
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somebody like it's not a problem anymore
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because it's simply something I don't do
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but for the first ten years that I was
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romantically involved with girls i was
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always in this posture of like oh here
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we are again like 22
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pool balls in a Crown Royal bag and
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there's that you know and it was my
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grandfather there's no way there's no
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way to make this work when you see
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somebody tried to walk two different
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sized dogs like you get like what like
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an akita and a shih tzu and it's
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impossible to walk two dogs of different
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circumstances are the same size the same
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gate it's going to be hard but but
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you're the the the akita and the Afghan
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the boys away in that situation the
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to put us
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battle on the akid akita but the shih
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tzu in the saddle and then then then you
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are everybody's fucking hero
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I think a lot about riding dogs yeah and
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dogs fighting other guys with my
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house finally beat dogs to write other
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dogs I think I think dogs can those
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those fucking dogs live in people's
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yeah they probably have a chance to
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write another dog yeah just that just
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that immediate contact the problem is
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that a dog big enough for me to ride
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would be the size of a brown bear and
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then it would basically a dog the size
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of a brown bear is a brown pic he looks
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like a Molly Hatchet up from haha yeah
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I'd have a battle-axe yes and a helmet
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with to warn you know you need out you
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need a big brown for set of their I'd be
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driving riding a bear for my god why why
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can't I do that you should if I may say
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consider trading in one of the hoop DS
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and make a down payment on their i I've
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I what kind of mileage to get out of
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there i mean like i didn't know a lot of
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I've seen a lot of bears I've known a
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lot of bears look I've never seen a man
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right a bit coming to that come to the
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castro if a man had ever ridden a bear i
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think i've seen the picture of it
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actually bears playing like footsie with
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husky dogs yeah I've seen a bear dance
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to a violin never seen a man right there
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yeah I there's a child enjoyed the show
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general been his gentle Ben was a big
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bear i think he was in train TV bear
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teddy bear but I mean the thing is you
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you can stay I mean you can stare down
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an animal with with dignity and respect
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and and you know it seems like in the
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fullness of time you could not only get
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it on your side but it could get you on
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its side you there would be a
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relationship there were three you could
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just literally as you i think you could
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go probably bareback on the bear
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mm and then and just will write up to
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Josh's office on a bear you know if I
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goodbye treat you so differently if you
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had a bathrobe and a scimitars and you
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were right it literally writing a bear
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listen if I was right if I could write a
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the last place i would go is my indie
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rock record label
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where would you start I would not i
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would i would be so far away from indie
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rock i would be the guy who could ride
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bears i think i would be a fucking
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parade everywhere I went I would go
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immediately to downtown Seattle the
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library and they would you know they'd
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be closing u-joints that like you don't
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like that library you should march you
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and your bare and we gotta get a name
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for the bear you and your bear should
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just march right into that library
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here's the problem with that library
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yeah it the the traffic flow is so
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constricted there's no place you could
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ride a bear into that my prayers and
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maneuverable you would ride this bear
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right into an escalator alcove
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apparently sarah you ever seen the way
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they wiggle around I saw a picture the
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other day of a ferret that someone had
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given some kind of steroids 20 the
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keyboard the well i'm looking at some of
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the stuff on my phone I have to get a
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nicer internet on my phone
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ok and so so the the picture was fairly
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small maybe I didn't get this right was
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it miss taste but this ferret looked
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know it had grown really long hair and
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it looked like a toy poodle o house of
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it was a fair with like with a big white
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afro and now picture that the size of a
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bear yeah and now you found you don't
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talk about that my friend John you can
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i'm going to cover the cover of heavy
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metal magazine in 1982 what about it I
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got it restart the franchise if it's a
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listen I know I don't have a lot of
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dough right now but apparently there is
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a man and since it
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Seattle who literally rides a fucking
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bear 50,000 watts of power or do
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whatever way ticket to bear rides you
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know and i have to say that you know it
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seems to me that once you become for
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example once you become a horse person
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and let's be careful here once you
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become someone who's hoarsely horsey
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horse you get a horse and then it's it's
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kinda like comics or models or rubber
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girls you want to get more and soon you
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have a stable of horses
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I got to tell you got a big barn could
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probably use a little bit of work right
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you're not using for that mean you like
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specific things right now you're not a
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meat or anything no it's best to store
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and right now but still investments but
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you could scoop that aside i am but I'm
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a whore i am a horse person of Vespas
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okay no okay but you could also i mean
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like you've got that set in the family
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that takes care of alcoholic horses
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couldn't you couldn't conceivably with
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your vast rock-and-roll money couldn't
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you have like a stable of bears your
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whole family could ride around on my
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neighbors have Merlin have you ever seen
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a bear a bear is bigger and tougher than
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people think parents there is big
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yeah it's very big even a small bear's
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big and they're also there i mean i'm
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not going to say that they are fully
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oh I think they pick up there like
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raccoons there they are like the
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raccoons and they pick stuff up real
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fast you know raccoons kind of like a
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little bear a raccoon is a little Nazi
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bear that's right isn't that what
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they're called little look
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yes yeah they call them right back to
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Hitler right regular right boys if it's
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not even a half an hour and we're back
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2052 raccoon schiessen they call them in
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disguise
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no no bears bears the thing is a bear
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you think about a bear most people who
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think about bears they don't think about
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barefoot when if you do you mentally
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picture a bear you you picture this kind
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of you know large elegant like fairly
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like sleek animal with giant claws but
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the thing is the real blobby they're
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real like they're almost like a big
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whale they got a horse like kind of like
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tapered neck and they're super fucking
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scary if you ever see a bear out and
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around even doing nothing they're
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terrifying are you describing a bear
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that from just having read about them in
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books from yes yes yes Louis thing I've
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been translated from a different
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language
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yeah it's it represents Isaiah did I
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tell you that I were talking about the
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time the so so that's soon yeah it's I
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don't want to go down
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I don't want to go down the rabbit hole
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of all the times that i have been
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literally tracked by a bear
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I got nowhere to be but gimme gimme a
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good one but one time so i have a 5 a
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very good friend i've mentioned him on
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the podcast before never by name
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he he is a he is probably 12 years of is
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a close friend and also he still lives
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in Alaska is by far my closest friend
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who still lives in Alaska and he has a
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cabin that his father built on a small
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lake in the shadow of Mount McKinley or
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Denali the great one largest mountain in
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them in the in the North America and
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it's a little little tiny cabin up on
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this lake and they they named the lake
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after themselves
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his father at the family because if you
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have if you have a lake
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what are you going to call it going to
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call it small lake you're gonna call it
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dark lake now you're going to call it
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you're going to name the lake after
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yourself and that's what they did but if
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the lake is too small and too well it's
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not too small to land a floatplane on
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but it is too small to take that float
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plane back off right you could set the
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plane down like a floodplain lobster
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trap exactly if you landed a floatplane
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office like it would be that float plane
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would would live there forever so this
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sucks because it was a little bigger it
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would be it would be pretty amazing to
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be able to get into this place so much
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exactly that is just take it out easier
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is if this lake was one acre bigger and
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you could take the plane off then this
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this cabin would be immediate be it
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would be the hilton of Alaska cabins but
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as it is the only way to get to this
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cabin there are two ways to get to one
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you can float down the shit no River to
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the chill in the river to the place
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where the children of forks into the
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Talkeetna and then pull your rubber raft
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off and hike in five miles through the
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doubles clubs
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or you can in the wintertime you can
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land your ski plane on the swamp that is
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two miles through the forest to the
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little lake so you'll and the ski plane
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on the swamp but the problem it was that
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the problem with that is the swamp never
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completely freezes because it's always
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kind of like methane me you know like
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Earth farts database that key exactly
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that keeps the ice from members being
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solid so you can land this keep playing
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on this one but you have to kind of keep
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the ski plane moving a little bit
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because if you turn it on if you stop
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the motor and you turn the plane off the
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seaplane under the ski plane was just
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kind of sink into the slush and that is
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a ski plane like an Indiana Jones thing
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like it'sit's got pontoon is that what
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that is don't have skis out you take the
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pontoons off and you put skis on that
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just do that
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yeah when you landed on the snow but if
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you landed on the deep snow or
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particularly if you landed on deep snow
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in a man swamp that isn't that where the
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ice doesn't freeze you can get in
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trouble you get the skis can sink into
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the snow just thinking like that with I
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mean I know very little about you know
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aeronautics but it seems like a ski
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plane would be especially hard to take
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off with because you are really relying
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just on the propeller to get you moving
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yeah but once you're up it's like it's
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like a water if you like is that would
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be one thing but if you're on anywhere
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where you know any kind of incline it
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seems to be pretty tough to take off
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it's tough it's tough if you let this if
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you let the plane sink but if the
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plaintiff you keep the plane moving it
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stays up on top of the snow and then
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you're just few just bobbing leaders
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floating along this little cushion of
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snow it's quite it's it's very easy to
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take off but you have to kind of keep
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the plane moving so when we when we fly
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up to this cabin in the winter the
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sucking plastic over it lands on the
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snow but the pilot has to kind of keep
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the plane moving slowly moving along the
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swamp and you throw open the door and
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snow and then you throw your snowshoes
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and so you jump out onto your snowshoes
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and you go by and he goes by and then he
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hits the gas and he flies away and then
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you're alone on the swamp and you wait
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there until you sit and every aspect of
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this sounds good John Carpenter movie
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will be there for 45 minutes until
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curtain Russell comes and then there's a
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then there's a dog that has been
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infected with some kind of alien guy
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William Shatner mask superbug but anyway
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so when you leave the cabin 10 days to
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weeks later you have to leave via the
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same method so yeah it's kind of its
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kind of emotion
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well serviced the first of all one at a
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time and second of all yeah you kind of
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the plane like lands and keeps the motor
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running
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that was a cable car you got to just
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kind of jump on yeah it's just kinda
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it's just puttering along is moving fast
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but just like puttering along and you
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just throw your stuff in you get up on
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the ski and then you climb in the plane
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and then off you go
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and so when you leave but of course
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there's no I mean back then we didn't
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have cellphones and even even if you did
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i'm not even sure there would be
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cellphone service there i got really
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doubt it but at the time we had a pre
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appointed time when the plane would come
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like noon on Sunday
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he's just gonna fly fly out there and
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and we should be waiting and one time I
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was a wee while we're at the cabin
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we've seen a bear kind of over on the
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you know the forest edge and and my
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friends dad had multiple kind of
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encounters with bears at that at the
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cabin and his feeling about them was
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that a bear couldn't tell the difference
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between a window and a door and
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all the bear would just kind of Hammer
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on the outside of the cabin and you
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would sit inside just kind of hoping
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that the bear didn't figure out the
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window was less solid you know the bear
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would just kind of pound on the door and
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then you have the door barred by one
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point my friend's dad went out he had a
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sawed-off shotgun he went out and shot
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the gun in the air to scare the bear and
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the gun exploded in his hand and then
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his hand was all shredded and yeah he
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had to get the money to get me any of it
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wait two days and just fucking moving
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plane know that he had so he got the
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shortwave radio out from under the cabin
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and fired up the gas generator to power
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your shoulder a little scatman crothers
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yeah yeah exactly
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come in come in Mayday Mayday but anyway
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so one time I i drew the short straw i
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was first one out on the day that we
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were leaving and I went on my snowshoes
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with my bag and I snow chute out across
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the the little frozen lake in front of
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the cabin using the two miles now how
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yeah yeah couple of miles so you go
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across the miles in the snow
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yeah we would snowshoe a lot longer than
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that but but but it's a try it's a truck
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carrying a bag to carry bag is it soon
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as it is it's you anywhere near the big
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finale thing but it is the air in there
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no that's where down we're not up in the
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run-up hi cap but it's you know it's
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it's cold it's 30 below zero or
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something and so so you know she across
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the lake and then you snowshoe through
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the forest and there you have the miler
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or or a mile-and-a-half through the
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forest and then you come out the other
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side of the forest and you're in the
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swamp you walk out on the swamp and then
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the plane arrives well so I'm walking
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due to do to be in my you know my like
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John on snowshoes in the forest thing to
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do and and just as I clear the forest on
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the other side
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here like a shotgun and I'm like what
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the hell you know but it's not the
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craziest thing to here in Alaska shotgun
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tell me an apology but I kind of you
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know I have a pistol and so I kind of
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like have my hand on my pistol in case
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it is this all true
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what I mean is it all true he's his snow
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chute two miles toward a swamp or a plan
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on skis would take off somebody shot a
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shotgun but it's okay because you had a
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sidearm well wasn't okay i mean i had a
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sidearm and now that was where is that
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if it were if the shotgun were a crazy
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person not a crazy person but if the
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shotgun were let's say for instance a
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crazy trapper had a little shooting like
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erratically yeah or somebody had gone
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and was shooting my friend right like I
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wasn't out there I wasn't out there with
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the pack of chewing gum and a slingshot
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sure you must be this would be wondering
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11 why the shooting right exactly
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so i get i get a little bit of distance
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from the forest line so that I can look
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back at the forest and see what's coming
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and 15 minutes half an hour later here
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comes my friend Peter and he has the
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shotgun and he's out of breath he's been
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running like crazy and he says you know
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you gotta come with me and we walked
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back to the forest and we get back to
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about halfway through the forest and he
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shows me he describes that as he was
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walking across the lake about halfway so
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he he had timed his he had time leaving
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the cabin
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for half an hour after i had left the
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cabin and as he was walking across the
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lake he sees big huge brown bear tracks
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that were walking perpendicular to my
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snowshoe tracks and they stopped at my
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snowshoe tracks and then turned and
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followed my snowshoe tracks into the
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forest and so Peter when he arrived at
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this point where the bear the bear
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connected with where you know my fresh
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tracks and then turned and started
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tracking me when Peter hit that point he
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started shooting his gun in the air and
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running toward me just like firing the
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gun firing the gun and halfway through
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the forest about the point about it
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about the point in time where Peter
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would have started shooting the bear
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left his tracking of me and like went
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off into the went off into the bushes
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and all this was in the course of a half
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an hour
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God so anyway and so I mean I never saw
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the better if Peter had been there but
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he was like well you the bear was a was
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you know they're barely and I'm hundred
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yards behind me right there ass when
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they need to write
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oh yeah he wasn't he was you know what I
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mean they could take it outright
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innocent least in a straight line they
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could outrun a person know for sure
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everything is I was just do to do to do
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product on it just like Jonna hey Jonna
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know she's in the force think i would
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not have heard the bear aware of the
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bear the bear would have been behind me
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and I and you know who knows to
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speculate what the bear would have done
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when he realized that he he wasn't just
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tracking some chump when he saw me and
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he realized that I was a a bear of a man
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i think you still would have been
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unimpressed
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Danna and look up an uncanny sense of
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smell right
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yes they are they are they hunt by smell
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well I mean the reason i am first of all
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that's a fucking insane story John I
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don't where I don't wear fragrance cells
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and you don't you don't use a shaving
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right like the Vietcong right but so he
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was but the bear
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unlike the Vietcong the bear probably
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knew a lot about me just from smelling
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the air other like rangers second and
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they can track
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yeah he probably had he probably had my
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number pretty good
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well I'm you know we've got a little
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just a just that in terms of my own
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adventure stories usually done something
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called car camping where you can fill up
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your car and you take 10 steps and then
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you put a tent down you have a a coleman
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what's golden it's a pretty nice one
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yeah it's nice got a gun but that they
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are you know it's yeah way the gravy
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California an epic site but they're real
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super clear about making sure like no
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seriously you really really need to use
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the bear box this is this is not like a
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funny like haha I'm use the tourists
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there might be bears don't know they're
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literally are bears here and they will
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come to your campsite in it and like
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they will smell your food and they will
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smell everything it will smell your pee
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and poo there was they will smell your
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babies like keep the food in the bear
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box and it sounds like the Bears I mean
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there is a domesticated that's the wrong
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word but they definitely ain't scared of
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humans like they're in the California
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car camping bears are not scared
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yeah they're they're they're tending to
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the season they're doing great but
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nobody was true and I mean you would
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just see them just moseying around and
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and those are black bears I i'm not sure
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if that's my ping-pong and lets get that
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correct that is correct because the last
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brown bear in california i think was
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eradicated that there's a brown bear on
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the California flag over the state flag
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of California hasn't as a grizzly bear
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on it there are no is that right
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grizzly bears in California anymore huh
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they were all killed out without bodies
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LOL grounders black bears but no brown
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bears and black bears are are much
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smaller and much more
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I mean I wouldn't i would run up to a
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wild blackberry and huggett but they are
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much more sort of Barry eating
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they like a bowl of muesli and yogurt
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they like to know that fresh air they
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like to talk about their feelings Jewish
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summer camp they like to rummage in the
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in the in the footlocker looking for the
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bug spray like they are they are a
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gentler smaller kind of bear brown bear
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is isn't a monster is our arzoo is
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really bad and a lot of ways it's
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interesting in its way I we should visit
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there together
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my daughter loves to go there it's a lot
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of fun it's very poorly made it's kind
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of like a mall and no matter where you
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stand arzoo you feel like you're
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standing in back of whatever you're
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supposed to be looking at a place like
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that we're like I always feel like I'm
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in the wrong places coming at bottom of
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the hill like there's nowhere to go we
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don't feel like you're in the wrong
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yeah and but for some reason I mean one
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that you associate with lots of
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philanthropy somebody threw a metric
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shit ton of money at this grizzly bear
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just chocolate was a hewlett could have
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been the Packard's it could have been
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the Goldbergs it could have been the
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robert wood johnson i don't know but
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there's a there's a very very spacious
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though there's this one polar bear
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there's one little sad polar bear and
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what looks like a kiosk from the mall
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and it's just sitting out there with the
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fuckin grizzly bears man they have got
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this entire giant area that includes
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like you know one of those seaworld sort
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of things where you can walk down and
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look under the water and see them and go
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to this different area to see them from
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this different vantage point and I'm I
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mean and what school is when you get a
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little underground like the water area
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they they put bear-sized footprints in
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the concrete so you can see and you know
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Eleanor like stop to walk on this and
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they're like maybe a foot across but
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they've got to be like at least like
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eight inches across and then you see
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these things just ambling around and
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they think they look like a like a fat
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man like a family used to do kung Fu's
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had like three martinis but they're very
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they're ambling do you know what i mean
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but there's something about them were
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just like a glancing blow not a fucking
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tree down
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just there's it's it's I mean that it's
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it's weird I mean like it's their
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prehistoric there's you have to have
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that vibe they have that like I'm not
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like Brachiosaurus but they've got that
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kind of weird taper dinosaur neck
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yeah their heads are are the size of an
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armchair they're really and polar bears
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are also enormous there was a polar not
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ours is not ours looks like a recently
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divorced man he's a sad guy it seems
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every little there's a little uh this
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little train you can track her down to
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the zoo and you just you're right by the
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polar bear and he just he just looks
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like maybe returns calls its he sits up
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on his hind I'm sits up on his heart and
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his kind of waves one lonely and at the
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ah there's a polar winter that one guy
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your neighborhood on the lawn chair
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it was like hi I'm a veteran there's a
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polar bear at the Anchorage zoo for many
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years whose name was binky binky the
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polar bear and every once in a while
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some drunk kid would scale the fence
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this john hodgman know some drunks some
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drunk Anchorage kid it was it was thing
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that happened periodically some kid
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would scale the fence to either be
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taught the bear or on a dare or because
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the bear seem to be sleeping or because
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the bear was all what the bear was
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sleeping all the way across the
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enclosure or some other reason that some
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kid thought it was a good idea to climb
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the fence into the bear enclosure and
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routinely binky would go from fully
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asleep like balanced on a truck tire or
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whatever it is that bears do in those
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zoos like fully asleep 200 yards away
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binky would go from like unconscious to
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on this kid it in the blink of an eye on
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one really one time he got a kid and the
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newspapers reported it as delicately as
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they could but the but the gist of it
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was that binky had bit disk
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stick off the kid the teenager made it
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to the fans like an example of it he got
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in there he got into the thing and being
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you know binky was asleep all the way
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over there and then all of a sudden
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think he was not asleep anymore and
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bakey is the size of a cup of a
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locomotive and binky is coming at you
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very fast and this kid this kid ran to
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the fence and he you know he got he got
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halfway up the wall and bakey just got
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it right in the right in the back and
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there's a there's a famous photo if you
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want to google that a pinky carrying
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this kids shoe around in his mouth
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they couldn't get the shoe away from him
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and for I don't know how long I think he
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just was like my shoe now living if you
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could be one of mounting on his wall and
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he had this he had this nike this this
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kids nike that he just like it was his
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toy he just carried it around and the
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zoo was mortified
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it's not a thing that you want you know
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what people coming to the zoo and seeing
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your polar bear like proudly carrying
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this kids shoe around in his mouth but
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it's a fucking bear i did get away from
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the guy it was like what do you expect
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you know you wanted yeah i mean i think
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they could have gone in with like a
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chicken and tried to trade will give you
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a chicken you give us the shoe but throw
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me the whip
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there's exhibitors be great there's a
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great picture him with that you I think
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you will
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well you know what arzu it really is a
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mess god bless them you know where
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members there were part of the San
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Francisco illogical society course you
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are yeah which means to pay a hundred
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dollars here to cause as much as we want
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down but we super out back there
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oh sure we do we we bring along a vegan
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lunch we eat all of it we get we give
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some way to a format we can support some
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almond my milk out for your dead homie
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that's funny
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ah we have problems that are you i don't
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remember nothing goes on a morning like
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Christmas Day couple three years ago
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like somebody some single somebody broke
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into the zoo and got into the tiger area
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the Tigers I think if memory serves yeah
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yeah it did not turn out great
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I arvizu lost its last it's elephant
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credentials
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whoa you know the elephants I think if
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you ask anybody who's a zoo person
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they'll tell you that one of the big
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draws in the zoo world is having
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elephants
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yeah yeah everybody wants to see an
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elephant it's not a zoo without an
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elevator with drawers are our elephant
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writes it took your elephant away
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yeah i think i think an elephant at
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least one elephant died at the zoo
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no you can't you know just kind of
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person that kind of spaced it there's a
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lot that happens there we were kinda
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like oh you know and meant to take care
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of that thing like a lot of my getting
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you wander around just empty displays is
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very there's very apt thin looking
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jungle cats is it's a it's a really
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weird two-button to realize you're doing
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great just for what it's worth I told
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you about the elephant sanctuary right
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now I don't think you have at some point
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at some point I I don't know how I i
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don't know i arrived at this I worry i
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secretly working wonder how long we
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really be able to do the show I don't
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know and then then I realized that that
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you literally have thousands of stories
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that I assume true
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this isn't a story this isn't a story
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that involves me directly right but
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somehow as I was
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oh you know what it was I realized a
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certain point five or six years ago I
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was trying to make my was trying to be a
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bachelor remember this I would i bought
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a house is trying trying to be hip
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bachelor guy i was going to get some
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leather couches I was going to get a big
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screen TV and I was gonna sit in my
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house gonna wear a velvet smoking jacket
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and I was gonna fill my house with art
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sort of like a mini Hugh Hefner this was
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my vision for Patrick payment patrick
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bateman exactly and then I realized that
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you're a man of means and i was at the
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yeah and I Anna and then I realized very
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quickly that I didn't want a leather
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couch and that I had no use for a big TV
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and then I was kind of at sea
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nothing good ever happens on a leather
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nothing at all you're absolutely right i
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did not need i did not need one more
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place to sit and uncomfortably sweat but
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I wanted to have my apart I wanted to
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have my house filled with our you're in
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my good friend Jason Finn the drummer of
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the president of the united states of
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america he has you would not believe
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this but you would not believe looking
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at him because he's a he's a terrible
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person but he has this very very great
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art collection that he has that he has
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developed and curated a lot of people
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with crazy eyes have nice art you know
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you know like 25 years he's been
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collecting art and he does these key
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does these things where he goes to like
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student art shows and he has developed
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an eye enough that he buys this is on
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the crazy eye for art he's got crazy eye
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for art huh
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and he you know he spends a hundred
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bucks on a painting from a guy and five
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years later everybody's talking about
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the the painter and he's like yeah I got
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that 400 bucks at an art show student
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art show
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you're just like what an asshole like
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how dare you be successful at this but
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anyway so Jason finn being a being a
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model for me being being someone that I
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that you know he's sort of a mentor
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because he's older than I am i decided i
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was going to get into this this was
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going to get some art for my house art
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that wasn't just like old posters of
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topless girls that had been lacquered to
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plywood again against getting outriders
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you're gonna go beyond like having like
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a like like a poster of clint's the kiss
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on phone call or like really really
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spread out right no more Dallas Cowboys
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Cheerleader montage but like I earnest
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outsider art kind of art or like
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actually legitimate cool stuff
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this was the thing like I happiness i
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have an especially since the one that
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has the room full of art you describe
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that time Jason are you you're
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describing something I mean you're up to
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but you're describing a friend of yours
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who like has has like sought out like
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amazing like thrift store paintings that
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are actually like no no no Jason
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actually Jason issues
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thrift stores he is a fancy boy guys are
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here re he buys already are
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yeah this isn't like found our this is
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like art by artist
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so I'm a spot you know I've got a house
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full of thrift store art but i wanted to
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get some art art and i'm looking around
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and i don't know anything about it and
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I'm looking at this is like that's that
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thing is 1,500 bucks it's just a bit
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just to like I've seen refrigerator
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magnets that I like more than this thing
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and I'm going to art galleries that and
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I just don't I don't I don't feel it i
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don't feel part of that culture and then
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I learned that elephants make art that
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they give elephants paint brushes and
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then they sell those elephant paintings
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to to pay for elephant chow that it's
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some kind of thing where the elephants
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are actually they're actually working
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for their bowl of food
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have you seen this actually happen yes
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yes they give elephants paint brushes
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and paint and the elephants love it
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there's super excited and they express
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themselves in paint and they do is like
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kind of amazing paintings and i said i
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do not care about student artists really
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enough to pay 1600 dollars let alone
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20,000 students
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yeah as long as a professional once
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they're not students that they want real
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money for their pain to this but
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elephants
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oh I will totally buy a painting for
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from an elephant
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so I go on and i'm looking at all the
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elephant paintings and they're talking
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about you know the then copy for these
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other paintings is being written by some
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elephant trainer not like an art curator
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the elephant trainer so like Maisie was
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so happy this day and she painted this
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painting and you can see how happy she
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is because she is so much yellow I'm
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like that is a terrible description of
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that painting and painting is saying a
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lot more to me than that maze happy I'm
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feeling amazing laying down i'm picking
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up but she's laying down in this
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painting but here's the problem we'll
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just like when i got into Afghani war
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rugs all the ones that i really liked
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already have all
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Afghani war rugs that had like had you
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know mig-27 and then they were all sold
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already and all the elephant paintings i
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really like were sold and the the ones
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that were still for sale were like all
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these ones do you know all these brown
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ones anyway so I followed that I
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followed the elephant thread and i
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discovered the elephant sanctuary which
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is in Tennessee these people bought like
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I'm like 50,000 acres of growing
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tennessee hills and they take all these
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elephants that have spent their whole
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lives like little bit like working in
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the circus and living in a living in a
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tiny little cement room and get all
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these elephants that were like chained
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to a 6-foot length of chain and they
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have permanent scars on their on their
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little elephant wrists from 20 years
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been chained to a floor
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yeah all these elephants with
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post-traumatic stress disorder all these
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elephants who had their babies taken
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away and had been it's like look at
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child soldiers meats like Dumbo
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yeah yeah exactly elephants who have
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been traumatized and they are brought to
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this elephant sanctuary and they're
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turned loose to live out their lives
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just just paint whatever they want just
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frolicking in Tennessee which is
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Tennessee as you know is the Africa of
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America
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haha at least the india of America
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oh and you know they roll in the mud
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they think they think you're lucky they
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can't write a party with other elephants
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thinking to know each other they like
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thinking to know each other they like
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they play slap and tickle are they do
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whatever elephants do and it's this
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great they're very social animals
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they're very social and you know and of
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course of course a lot of them are girl
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elephant so there's some social I
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there's some like you know there's a
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tiny baby kind of thing that people only
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want to adopt the the mail i think so i
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think i think having a boy elephant is I
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mean that they're a lot bigger and
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they're a lot no meaner baby uh-huh
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but you know I'm good said there that
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their likes their their social so
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somebody's going to somebody's going to
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be honest resized and one of the
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elephants is you know gonna be like but
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that's how they do you got a lot of be
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how they are you know you gotta let them
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how to be how they do so anyway I'm a
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big supporter of the elephant sanctuary
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Tennessee and they go to their website
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all the time and every time i see an
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elephant that's in a zoo or that's doing
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some work in the world unlike me
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elephant sanctuary i whispered in there
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and like just a lot sanctuary
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you know I've always had our next-door
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neighbor when I was in junior high
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collected elephants and I realized on
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others not what you know elephant
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related things so I can collect the
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animals it was going to say as elephant
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collection tract housing but about it
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out but I realize what a gift it is to
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everyone in your life
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we talked about this you know if you
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have a collection like in your case
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think about all the things if somebody
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figured out how to reach you that they
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could give you as a gift because they
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know you like a brow playboy like a
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cowboy hat you like a nice cant nice
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breasts candelabra know that cheap stuff
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that's right it's a gift you get you
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give to your friends ratings i collect
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rabe and I have any kind of birthday
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party or any kind of house warming gift
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you want to bring me ray bans oh I'm in
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you're in
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yeah but it but in her case you could
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bring her an elephant it's because now I
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mean you know the thing is it's it's you
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always know so if you go somewhere if
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you go to to gatlinburg which is in the
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Africa of America you know that you can
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get an elephant
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thing and you give it to her and it's a
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wonderful gift right now in your case it
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sounds to me like you are like my agent
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neighbor in pasco county florida you're
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giving a gift to people you're saying if
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you wanted to give me something it can't
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be cheap and cheesy but give me some
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nice elephant created art and that's
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something that you could do for me
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because it's missing you know what its
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specific it's not going to be specific I
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mean how many times when you're a kid
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you get like the off-brand big gym or
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something you know right exactly when my
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mom brought me stay Diaz instead of
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remember remember the iconic white
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knight these with the blue stripe
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yeah and then you remember the stadia
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tennis shoes i remember there's a number
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of ones what we're that where the swoosh
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was was legally squared off the swoosh
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are just a little too round and fruity
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yeah it wasn't just that it was around
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the swoosh was actually a whale
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oh I do remember that the long showers i
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had JC Penney's fake adidas with with
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four stripes
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oh yeah nice to see those kids a mile
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away and I was the kid with the
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stadium's my moms like those nikes
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you're 80 bucks mine were a bluish
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purple with orange stripes for orange
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stripes
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it's actually some kind of cool now the
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yeah the competition I wish I had those
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stadiums i wish i had all of mine
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uh-huh i think i am very reluctant to
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talk about this because i think i got
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scammed recently by an animal artist and
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I'm not real comfortable talking about
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it but I got a bad feeling about this
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like a lot of white people I heard a
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thing on NPR about cheetah and cheetah
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it's a champ John sorry chief cheetah
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was the chimp from the Tarzan movies
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right to you about this
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well I know about cheating the gym from
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the Tartan well long story short cheetah
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you know chips get old people don't
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realize this is really cute when the
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runaround diapers when there are a few
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months old but then they turn into like
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you know basically imagine an insane
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seen out
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shit throwing five-year-old have fun for
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80 years right so you need to get a
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cheap Elvis learn this right now let's
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learn this with the with the with his
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used to masturbate in front of guests he
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thought that was funny you know it's
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kind of funny from Tennessee imagine
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being else's house and chips master
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finishing that the child is getting
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right in there with no chips will your
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face yet all know know they'll tear all
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kinds of stuff off there either ornery
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and dad and you know and so anyway I
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heard this thing that this part i'm
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pretty sure is true which is that
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cheetah was being and I'm not going to
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google this pachita was now being cared
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for at this sanctuary and look how cool
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is that cheetah like I grew up like
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watching you know this terrible terrible
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Tarzan movies
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how cool is it that up all those people
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like cheetah of all this little people
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is still alive Johnny wife's mother is
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dead but love ya like so many Olympians
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I and the way that they were subsidizing
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cheetahs keep was the cheetah did
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paintings right for his cheating child
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tell your dad is Jeter child so like a
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lot of people i think i heard about this
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on NPR by which i mean i'm positive i
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heard about this on NPR up
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I mean this guy's got the stink of all
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things considered does it sure doesn't
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hear the theme Robert Siegel
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ding-ding-ding-ding bg2 paintings
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paintings and it's i went to the went to
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the site if memory serves I went to a
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forum where I selected what colors I
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would like cheated to use and I forget
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how much I paid for it but we bought a
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cheater painting now wait are you saying
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that you not only bought a cheetah
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painting but the you commissioned the
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cheetah painting oh shit yeah it's in my
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yeah how however I never skinned the
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cheetah painting I've been in your house
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anytime I have have mixed feelings about
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the chip you're afraid it's not it's not
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authentic cheetah I well there's a
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couple levels to this is not super
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interesting but I think there's a couple
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levels to it first
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I believe there is some controversy
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about whether that is in fact the
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canonical cheetah I think there is some
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concern that that might be like the
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cheetah Evan
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I'm saying Jeter 630 that's right
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there's location
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let's set that aside for a moment we got
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this painting and you know it's like a
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canvas you would buy it flax or whatever
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it's like you know i'm one of those not
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like a stretched canvas it's on one of
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those like it's a big board pretty late
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it's purple and yellow and it looks like
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a fucking chip made it haha alright
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sounds like pretty pretty much if you
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want to guess what a chimp smearing
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paint on like you know with not a whole
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lot of sense of negative space let's be
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yeah yeah yeah uh and you know man I
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these years ago man LOL this is so cool
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we supported cheetah and then there's
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like it's like long lines up with your
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dog sign the Christmas card and you make
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it put its paw in there
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uh-huh but you are afraid to put three
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thumb prints on there to fake it right
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right so you're you're thinking that
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there was somebody with a cattle prod
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think it's fucking bullshit i think this
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dude got a little liquored up and made a
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cheater painting and that guy is making
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fucking Bank aphakia making fake
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paintings that is my problem i'm now I
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see this is what I live with John and I
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cheetah rights really matter something
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in the painting this doesn't smell right
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there's something there's something it's
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got a chip stink on it there's something
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about it that's not right you know what
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I've not tracked it down we're done here
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I would do more research of our
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listeners know i would love to hear but
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I have a feeling i get you to scan on
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saying i'm very interested in the idea
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of you know the people who collect
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animal created art yeah you know yeah
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well and that's I mean I have to say if
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I didn't confide in
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if I was actually going to get an
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elephant painting i would like I would
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like I got it I got any I'll never know
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how good I can be given as an anecdote
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about that he does it does
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Groucho Marx whatever Groucho is going
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did if I would like to see at least a
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vine at least a six-second video of the
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elephant actually painting my painting
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you know I don't want to just get a
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painting in the mail from an elephant
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sanctuary because the oven sanctuary
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where the paintings are being done is in
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violence
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Oh give me up
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fucking break right so it's like will
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come on now I don't want I don't want I
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don't want this said I want to rip a
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repeat of what you don't wanna I don't
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want to make this about Hitler but i'm
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very interested in the idea of
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provenance you know when I first heard
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that I guess in college and I guess
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painting class i first heard about you
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know provenance and where this was how
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we know where this came from
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you know I think most people notice from
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antiques roadshow but you know the whole
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idea of like you know it's the chain of
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custody for this particular piece of art
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right when you say i would absolutely
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said and that's kind of what it means
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right we know that somebody made this
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like Vincent van Gogh gave this to his
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landlord and the Landlord role to join
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it and like whatever like we really like
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how this got to where it was and I guess
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I I don't want to be that like pics or
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it didn't happen guy but you know i can
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for example of a comic artists that I
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like a lot
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who does a comic that I like a lot drew
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me my friend actually my friend is had
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him draw me a custom cover and send it
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to me it was kind of weird a first was
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fucking awesome
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jean grey but it was also like it came
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with this like weird like little
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authenticity thing and what I knew it
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was real because i know dave and i know
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my SS and I know all-new x-men and I
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know that it looked right and but like
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I'm very interested in that whole idea
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but how do you prove that you know
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anybody did anything and I i guess what
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i'm getting at is you have to have a
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fucking video of the elephant making
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your art it's just before you worry
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about shipping you know you know we
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should do you should send me a
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password-protected vimeo video of the
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fucking elephant making the fucking
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painting
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exactly that's right and I won't hold up
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a newspaper don't know what date it is
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what makes so I want to make sure it's
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mine i want you to mention my name in it
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and what I want the offer to look me in
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the me what the number one guild war top
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hot 100 song is this week because you
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know how this is that the Viacom we do
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this all the time you can make anything
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sure they'd be there picking van Gogh's
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right now to be a car that's ok that's
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how they keep that war going it's that
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right but my somebody's underground if
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it's not you know shocking element dark
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it's in the tunnel still work
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but I i was thinking about this the
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other day so I've got I never throw
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anything away as you know and for many
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years not entirely true what's not
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entirely true but I but there are things
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there are things you don't try anything
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that did that doesn't smell unless you
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created the smell
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generally yeah and and that is a perfect
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intro to what I'm about to describe
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which is that for many years I only wore
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Levi's I i made the made the classic
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mistake that a lot of young guys make
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which is that i found one piece of
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clothing that worked it didn't have it
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didn't look the best on me I wasn't like
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the levis bottle or anything like that
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but Levi's were you can get a cheap its
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ears and so I just I got the I got the
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unwashed kind of the rock 50 once
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yeah and so I was your man you got me
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back into and all I we're now it's five
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pairs 501 thank you for getting me feel
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no no well I mean know Levi's right i
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mean you know until they until recently
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the levis company was taken over by by
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skinny pant hipsters who have no sense
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of history my gosh I'm ill try and buy
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apparently likes online don't want to
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it's completely baffling they're making
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600 pairs of pants and they can't make
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their goddamn iconic jeans they don't
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make the pants that I want anymore
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everything that they might you know come
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from a different country and chilean
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Levi's at mexican levi's vintage
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Republic Levi's you guys are always take
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equatorial get all the Chinese levis are
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like not being mean I'm gonna sit my
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mission to buy another pair an hour
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later anyway so I got all these levis
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and what would happen is i would really
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advise until they were until they were
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completely like white no no why he's
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real one out and the and the cups were
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blown out and the crotch was blown out
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and then i would put patches all over
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them and I would wear them until until
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you could almost see through these pants
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in the cast of hair if it was bad look
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like I was in the cast of hair and
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suffered for 30 years have been wearing
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these jeans
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and when the levis finally get to the
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point where they're just like okay now i
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do look like a hippie I look like I look
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like I'm in a band called hippie big
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buckle and I need to go to the store and
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get new jeans instead of throwing things
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he's like super patchy hippie pants away
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i would just carefully fold them I would
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you know watch them one more time
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carefully fold them and put them in a
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oh god and so now here at my house I
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have a draw tonight's no longer a drawer
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it is now up its it's now basically a
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hope chest
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we have with 30 years of these jeans I
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have 25 pairs of completely patched but
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all made in America all worn from from
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like a tin denim level all the way down
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to this tissue paper and they're all
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size 36 waist and they're also 36 length
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and they sit in this footlocker and
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everyone smile look at open it and look
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at a time like it's my whole life
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represented in in worn-out change your
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life expressed in pants there is my life
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in pants and everything I ever did I did
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in these pants every song I ever wrote
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ever every tour I ever went on was all
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that's all of these pains unexpectedly
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poignant ah yes I totally agree so but
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here's the thing i don't want to go
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through the rest of my life with with a
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with this likes submarine full of jeans
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that I'm carrying with me everywhere you
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know it's like it's like it's like a
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three-man seagull submarine that
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somebody when you're going to be out and
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your lady is going to be poking around
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she's going she's going to open the big
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cedar box and that was so here's one of
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their 15 years of pants
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one of the things I'm worried about is
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that these pants are exactly the type of
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pants that girls like to steal from boys
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and where
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like like cinched around their waist
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with a capital L so kid it's so cute
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I don't want it to happen to my later
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and a big shirt
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no I don't want I don't want cute girls
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running around in my jeans are you
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fucking talking about you have a totally
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Jules and Jim situation your goddamn
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bedroom what's wrong with you
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checking because you're on a mustache
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children know so anyone special in your
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sense of history is clouding your vision
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and that's all I'm gonna say about that
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you're absolutely right it may be it may
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be and I think he'll listen Jim maybe I
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should have been given away these jeans
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two girls for the last 25 years maybe
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maybe i missed a big opportunity
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oh but but I instead I have been
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protecting these jeans I don't know why
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right now i have now I have a time
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capsule of jeans and a and then it pops
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into my head
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now wait a minute i could put these
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jeans on ebay as a lot 25 pairs of jeans
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from the last 30 years all made in
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America all worn to paper thickness then
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I think it was gonna find out who's
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gonna buy that and what are they going
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to do with them
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yeah right like if if i if i sold that
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like to a costume designer who is lose
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rebooting hair okay that that could be
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you couldn't make these jeans you could
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not whether these jeans with with modern
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technology I think you're looking more
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like Levi sniffer 56 like you look
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you're looking implicated a guy with an
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efficiency apartment is what do you
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think I don't want to step my Levi's
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he's gonna want girls leave my I had
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theirs I've had offers on shoes but so
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then I say now what if i put them on
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ebay with the provenance out no question
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you right you right like I'm sorry
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interrupt you but you right and you
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write up a little thing on like what was
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happening at the time like these are
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might these are my check genes that
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these are the jeans that i wrote the
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song cinnamon in i played me
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any around a campfire and literally ate
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pasta with ketchup in these jeans in
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these jeans now what am I bid and then
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by the budget extremely creepy single
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men are holding a ping-pong back and
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it's sold to the man with his hands cats
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