Ep. 64: "Sunset University"
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hello I John hi Merlin how's it going
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good my got my settings all screwed up
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here i have to adjust my settings check
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the little music
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yeah your presence setting adjustment
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music i can do that in it and then I was
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at an architectural salvage yard the
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other day
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of course you are and I was digging
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through some bins and there was a whole
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bin of old old headphones like you would
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see you would see in a secretarial pool
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or a library you know like that funds
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were used in in the library
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Oh with the like plasticky cheap not
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very useful padding correct and I was I
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was digging through these headphones and
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I noticed that they had written on them
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in in black pen the name of my childhood
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elementary school I said sunset on them
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all of them i was looking through my was
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like sunset sunset that couldn't be
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sunset elementary and I walked up to the
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to the gala counter and I was like are
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these did you guys do a salvaged from an
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old elementary school and she said oh
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you have some elementary school up in
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shoreline and I realized these were the
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headphones these were the actual
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headphones in the library of the
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elementary school I went to when I was a
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little kid and lived in seattle so i
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bought them all and now I have all of
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these headphones you you might have
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watched the the world at war with this
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on your head
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absolutely i watched microfiche i
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watched film strips i want to knows what
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I I probably took French lessons anyway
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so i bought these headphones because i
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was so excited to have the you know have
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the real a real artifact of that of that
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school and of course they're terrible
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headphones
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that's no reason that that you know the
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Chinese beat us to the moon
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we were listening to stuff on these
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terrible to any headphones
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well the fidelity is a you know not
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completely up to snuff they're probably
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not which called reference headphones
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right no in fact they are barely a
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yeah it's a it's like it feels like the
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sound it has to go through a tiny tiny
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pinhole to come out in into your ear
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area so no they're terrible but but i
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love them i have a bunch of them to I'm
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not exactly just say how about how many
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did you pick up
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oh I don't know a bag how much is in a
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bag haha bag is a 5-2 22 yea right so
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between five and twenty two metric or
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imperial an imperial bag
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it's an imperial bank well I don't wanna
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you know making me I hate to state the
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obvious but it seems clear enough to me
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that day she started school I have been
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wanting to start a school my whole adult
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life but you got the headphones i feel
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like that's what that's what we've done
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here Merlin with Roderick on the line we
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have started a school a kind of its it's
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like it's one of those internet colleges
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you know me and I don't like to read a
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to the stating the obvious but the
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university of phoenix really i think
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this is this is we should be just as
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accredited as the University of feeling
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I got a I got a diploma in some bazooka
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joe from Phoenix I'm technically
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electrical electrician now it's been
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electric electrician who got a typo on
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it they meant to say engineer John you
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know I so I don't be too on-the-nose but
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the love of Christ you have to start a
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school and you know really in
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indifference or in honor of of your own
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sunset time you know and just what it's
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worth I make a creepy you know I
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neighborhood I live in is called the
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sunset so you could have a satellite
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location here at sunset
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yeah I means a costly place to build
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anything but I you know I think once
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you've got the sunk cost of the
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headphones taken care of
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ok just to show people John people are i
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say this with roo because of the fact
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that we're going through this right now
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but it's a real pain in the butt to get
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into a school is
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huge pain in the butt to get into a good
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school and it's an extreme rarity to get
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into a John Roderick school
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well I feel like if I named at sunset
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university you know that it's already
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sort of like very inviting to him to an
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older demographic but it's like it's
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these are the sunset years of your
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education come to sunset University
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where the chairs are comfortable and the
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headphones are like you had an
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elementary school
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that's a little long but haha but you
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know you ever ever get a get a pizza and
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it says on the box
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you've tried the rest now try the best
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of course every pizza box says that it's
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not probably entirely true but I mean
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again I don't think you have to be the
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best pizza place in order to order those
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boxes and by the same token let's be
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honest it's not you know this is not the
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19th century I think you can literally
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call yourself university without any of
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fear of you know contradiction anybody
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universities like me a doctor you just
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yeah well it's like it's like they say
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about when you and your friend a me to
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bear on the trail
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you don't have to be faster than the
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bear you just have to be faster than
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your friend that's a great joke i love
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that check is true it's adding that and
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that would be the model of sunset
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university we have to translate in the
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Latin ok you know
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faster faster scum bear just have to be
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faster than the fingers I like this is
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why bring a pizza is because what you're
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really saying is you've tried the rest
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now I try the literally the final school
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you go to its the Sun sets the last
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school you need you've been taught you
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been to a lot of colleges presumably if
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you're listening to this podcast you
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have either been to a lot of colleges
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and none of them have met your needs or
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you haven't been any colleges you're
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very curious about them
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yeah you have the kind of nine job where
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you can listen to an hour and a half of
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help from somebody never met
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I mean a lot of people who haven't been
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to college good you know they say that
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did it that everybody's been to college
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now but I meet people all the time
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they've never been to concentrate costly
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John colleges costly it's not worth
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anything and I was going the other day
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yeah i'm sorry please continue Matt I'm
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I'm an Australian couple who are
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traveling in America and they had two
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teenage daughters
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well one was a teenager 13 and the other
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was nine neither kid had ever been to a
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school they just were educated by their
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parents and travel around together and
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they weren't even hippies they were a
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little bit Punk a lie saying they had
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bad they were they were all wearing the
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entire family mom dad and both daughters
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worry doc martens which is e I don't
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know that's that's that's a start if I
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know if I know what your special things
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are that that's a start and you know if
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you know this isn't that wouldn't
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necessarily be one of those we keep them
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out of the schools because of the Menace
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of creationism they might actually be
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doing it's not that hard to do a better
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job than school right now which is all
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the more reason for you to start one
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it's an opportunity you know apple says
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hey you know you've never really loved
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your phone before let's let's give you
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something that you can really use in
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this case maybe the reason that you've
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stayed at a school as you say it's never
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met your needs or your children scenes
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you know you know what they need you
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should be you should be the one that's
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helping them matriculate I was having
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another time travel dream the other day
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except in this case i time-traveled back
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to high school but I looked like I was
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in high school i time-traveled back into
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my high school body and was trying to
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think if I would do a better job than I
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did or if I would fuck it up even worse
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i eat lighter still out i have lots of
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dreams really really dream about five
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things and one of them is a kind of time
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travel I in James I only ever go to
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shopping malls high school my college
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church camp and an egg donation the mall
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the mall with those are those are the
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five dreams or that is one kind of dream
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time travel dream and you don't remember
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on that well in the Ringling Museum in
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sarasota that's the only is the only
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places i go in dreams and it's usually
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I'd like a dark ride at Disneyworld like
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it's a small world but with you know
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rubenesque women painting but time
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travel features heavily a dream I've had
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yes naked yes flying but also the the
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precise of the dream you describe which
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is going back to school but like being
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me now and I'm just contain for myself
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the ones like
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and remember i do equally as poorly
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because i'm essentially the same person
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it's just a little heavier with
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different pants yeah i think i think i
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would I think I probably get more tail
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than I did in high school because
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because in all honesty this makes this
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may shock you but I got zero tail in
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high school and that's hard to believe
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0p what Kelly that you know are
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purchasing doctor now so we should
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probably meet mr. around that will know
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she's a doctor now so she knows
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presumably now she knows about the human
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anatomy
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she's had two kids but you know at the
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time at the time i think i had this
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sense that good kids didn't go too far i
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was very you know I was very governed he
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said you said on previous occasions we
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went think we've agreed that we felt we
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both felt put off by the people who were
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getting tell whether that was men women
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or otherwise we felt we felt I felt sort
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of betrayed you think white people who
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were able to smoke pot and fingerbang I
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never I never had access to that and now
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today I understand that people let's be
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honest want to be finger-banged there
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aren't that many there aren't that many
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people who don't want a little bit of
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finger banging and i know that i don't
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have to make it weird but now I know
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that we talking with something we've
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discussed is that it for me going to
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college just made it worse that feeling
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i just described then it then it had
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some kind of like brassy patina of
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political correctness to it and you know
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i would you finger banging but i would
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feel bad about it sometimes you know but
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when i first went to college all that
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the only difference between college and
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high school is that that girls were
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wearing a lot more perfume they were
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they were using their that there was a
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there was a lot there was a thick layer
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of obsession in the air it's not like
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there was more in college more perfume
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that and thank God people don't worry so
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much anymore cause i have a great sense
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memory of it like listen to the cars and
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finger banging
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but you know I can do she was really
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nice jam boxes that could play cassette
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on repeat and back then you know girl
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yeah I didn't even need to drink a lot
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of water and rest then I i went to a
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Catholic school for the first two years
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of college as you know and really
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Catholic school Catholic universities
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are a place where people really really
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drink a lot and have a lot of reckless
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sex with one another because it's it's a
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it's like when Amish kids go get kicked
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springing and it's it's definitely think
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that's the Catholic Rumspringa and they
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go to college and advice i think the
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expectation is by junior year you will
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have found the person that you want to
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marry but that first two years it's just
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their people are just throwing down
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Jenna tonic and then and then and then
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hooking up
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it's basically like hooking up if you
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took if you have a if you had a frog
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cannon if you have let's say you had to
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frog cannons and a sex thing and they
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were aimed at each other no it's a
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cannon that shoots frogs
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ok any and then they were about that but
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it shoots like multiple frogs at once
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automatic weapon notice that they're not
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it's not identidad I it's like a
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blunderbuss of frog how like a double
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double barreled frog
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well except you're shooting and shooting
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like shotgun frogs so it's alright let's
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say you can shoot 25 frogs out of this
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Canyon and you have two of those
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pointing at each other they're kinda not
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pointed directly at each other pointed
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up in the air but in opposite ways and
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shooting 25 frogs at a time in in two
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different directions some of those frogs
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are going to hit and that is what sex at
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a catholic university is like so like
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the cold war em don't you think I'm
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talking to my knowledge is like the cold
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war not well I mean the elements of it
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not the actual you know XD an analogy I
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don't derail you but I mean that seems
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like the cold war you put a frog can we
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got a frog can get bigger fraud cannon
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yeah baby frog cannons Georgetown you're
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the one who runs the school but it seems
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to me that
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if you're one of those people who don't
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you get a lot of old Catholics running
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the school wants to get a lot of as I'd
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like guys in their sixties like it seems
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to me that if you've got that continuity
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of care over many many years they know
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that there's some fraud can is being
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shot over the well thats related to me
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when I first arrived at Gonzaga
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University where I spent my first two
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years of college or my first year and a
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half before i was asked to that's the
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part it was explained to me that there
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are two types of judgments and the one
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type of Jesuits the one type of judgment
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is the is the into the hyper
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intellectual homosexual man who is
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either who was either put into the
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priesthood by you know by they're
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terrified parents or was like he had her
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older brother who was going to inherit
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the family business and he ends up you
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know going into the priesthood so you
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know it's the very traditional societies
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are the other half of the judgments or
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the other percent i don't know if it's a
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half it seems like it was about half so
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half of my professors were incredibly
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smart clearly gay priests who wanted to
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just lived at this incredibly like
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diverse intellectual life the other half
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of the judgments were former jocks like
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football players and like just jocks
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that came up in Catholic school athletic
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programs basket famous basketball
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players or whatever and when they're
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athletic career was over they just sort
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of were brought for kept in the church
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family brought back in and given a life
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in the Jesuitical order so for instance
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the president of the University while i
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was there everybody on campus recognized
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that he was from the jock side of the
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Jesuits and nobody had any respect for
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him as a as a thinker but he was a
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glad-hander and a and a backslapper and
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and a fundraiser and you know and so all
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the all the intellectual like queer
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Jesuits were very contemptuous of of
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that side of the the order
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I never understood it because it seems
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like to become a judgment took years and
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years and years of study and and whatnot
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but then as time went on I realized it
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does take years of study but there's
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only one book the body
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yeah yeah yeah so mean you study that be
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it doesn't even if you're even if you're
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like a dumb basketball kicker right you
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can over the course of five years you
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know it's not like you're expected to
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understand Chasseur like and james joyce
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expendable you can spend a lot of time
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getting good at that one thing
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yeah you just memorize the one book and
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you seem like you and said that's it's
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true it's true of all religions you
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memorize one book and then when when
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anybody says anything to you just say
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something out of the book and it seems
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like you're a genius
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the same anyway we're going to figure
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out at sunset university what are
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equivalent like demographic split is our
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equivalent sort of professorial we need
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I feel like I feel like any university
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needs tension between be X professors
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and why professor you need McCartney's
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and lands we need McCartney's and lemons
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right icon their own they'll do stuff
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but when you combined the jocks and and
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the scholars let's say you miss them
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when you get your rocks and scholars
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working together I mean it's like you
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need two hands
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I feel like I feel like one side of
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sunset university should be prissy Bay
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Area software people who who are really
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uncomfortable when we started you know
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when we when we go off book but who are
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secretly titillated by it
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mm-hmm and then I think that's a great
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way to be you you pick up a lot of
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interesting stuff with that attitude i
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think my experience yeah and then the
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other half of the professor's should be
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you're talking about you're talking
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about the faculty talk about the faculty
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of these would be actually likes
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literally separate wings separate wings
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that the prissy prissy Bay Area software
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designers who secretly you know get a
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get a chubby when when the rules get
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broken but they can't they can't really
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admit it and then the other half are
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like wild man fischer types who who
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probably have never been to college
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themselves but you know where you know
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40 for a while we're living in a tree
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outside of jackson hole and then they
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you know they had checked down to Mexico
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and they they built a stone fortress out
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of broken seashells and then they you
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know where a whitewater river rafting
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guide guys like that I can lay my hands
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on some guys like that and if I may say
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that they represent at least two of the
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many facets of your personality because
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you're you are very learning McCartney
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in many ways and then the other hand I
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will call you a jock but but you're
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certainly the kind of man that would
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travel in a fugue state and having those
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together with a be decorated differently
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the two wings but they reflect the
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interests of the faculty and then those
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sensibilities you have to bend you have
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to put the two wings together and you
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have to pretend that everybody's the
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same same chairs same chalkboard exactly
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because without that with it if the
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wings were just divided then they would
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be at war with one another or they would
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be like openly would be openly hostile
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was like the tyranny of public restrooms
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right you got an icon on the door you
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have witnessed United bolinas here is
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your restroom and in this case it's
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really it's like one large unisex
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bathroom we're just gonna have to go in
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there one who was there before you write
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that's pretty good
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well I don't want to get back swing back
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to two finger banging too fast but you
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know girls have a weakness to it's just
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a spritz of months but you going it's an
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onboard is on your penis
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yeah retractable penis well I mean I
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think it's a terrific idea in ways that
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i am sure you understand I mean you
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obviously have so much to share with
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people and if anything it's just that
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you really need you need the platform
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for that i'm not i'm not entirely sure
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what the sort of monetary model would be
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you could probably get some of those
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friends
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viewers to to write some grants or some
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may be retired senators who would want
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to have their name on an arch or
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something
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I mean you you've walked in the
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corridors of power you know a lot of
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people you know you know the mayor there
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you know the rock'n'roll county
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Administrator you know a lot of people
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that but none of those people have any
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money they can accredited yes but that
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you know it's a facebook friend of a
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friend they could go and talk to people
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in the deeper corridors of power who
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have access something on this
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I've been I've been starting this
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whisper campaign for months suggesting
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that I be appointed to the board of
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directors of some hot up-and-coming
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software company and I've gotten got a
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few nibbles yeah but it's have that
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counts as a whisper but you couldn't
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kill babies
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nobody's pulled the trigger yet I feel
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like you know these are my primary simit
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are wielding year john this is this is
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this is a huge part of the problem it's
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like going it's like it you know when I
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want him to counseling my kids and
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they're worried wondering about like how
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to make the job that are like should I
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should I want better stuff today ask for
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a raise like no you should counseling
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your kids you know the you know the
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answers the listeners and and my things
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like to talk about Merlin's kids
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yeah i do that often every year I yell
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at people have a like a like a chance of
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help I didn't realize that you bet you
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that you thought of your listeners as
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your kids that's really sweet
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yeah yeah well you know I don't want I
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don't want to be you know condescending
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but I think of them as Morales kids a
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lot of ways i like that i cannot make
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goofy faces and they kind of a free hand
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gesture where my hands all limp the only
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for some vinegar and some baking powder
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but my personal life I collect cards
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here the but here's the thing
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so here's the problem with these suckers
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in this is true Eastern schools you know
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it's true and work and for the love of
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Christ you've taught us that this is the
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case in rock is that is that there are
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people out there who are waiting for
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their benediction they're waiting for
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their Bazooka Joe that's going to tell
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them that their electric electrician and
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what they never think to do is go out
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and just get it and I'm talking about
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like to follow your dreams i'm talking
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about you go out and do that thing
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you're you're not going to get you're
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not going to get the kind of position
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where you wield power by asking for it
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and in in this instance this is why I
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think you showing up and about
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Roman cemetery and literally at the
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meeting is going to have is gonna be
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much more impactful than saying may I
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have permission to bring a cemetery your
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building
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you're absolutely right I you know that
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this is not something i'm going to give
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you a note here i'm just saying that you
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understand as a man in a man of power
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that you don't go in and ask to be
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empowered it's true that the true i was
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thinking about this the other day you
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know Eddie Murphy recorded raw when he
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was 21 years old 20 even and we are
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still listening to and debating and
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arguing about music that the Beatles
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made when they were at similar same age
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and like I've said before I encounter
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sometimes 20 21 year olds who are fully
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adult fully they're fully actualized
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they do not appear to be wrestling with
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how do i how do I keep from crying in
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public they do not seem to be wrestling
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with like because I got a tumblr they
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put another tumblr haha like it took me
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years to understand that any given meal
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that you eat out in restaurants with a
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group of other people you should always
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a put in more money than you oh and be
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potentially you should just buy the
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ah John you should just buy the dinner
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honorable this is this is core
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curriculum
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I mean it should be in the freaking
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orientation iÃve talked about this but
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we would go out to eat I think it was
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this when I have my real job back in
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Florida and we got to go to some some
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like sushi BBQ place or whatever there's
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always like a couple guys who bill would
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come they'd be a min me and they take
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out there you know he'll packard
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calculator and want to like break it
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down and like you know I mean who had
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more edamame or whatever and and I would
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be like look this is back on took work
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seriously i would look guys let's just
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either split it anyways or please litter
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I cannot spell
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and my twenties listen to you guys argue
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over a six-dollar tab
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hand me the bill I will pay it we will
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never discuss it again and you move on
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you know anything is a little party
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Don't Ask Don't Ask if you should bring
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ice always bring ice don't don't don't
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ask if you should take out the trash
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don't worry grab the trash you can find
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the trash cans they're either in the
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garage or more likely outside you still
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see forty-year-olds the bill comes and
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they are you know they're looking at
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this bill on the table like it contains
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some hieroglyphic information that
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they're afraid you know they're going
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they're afraid it's going to get
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translated by the wrong scientists and
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and you know we're going to instead of
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instead of animating the good God we're
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going to animate the bad god oh you grab
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the the abnormal brain right exactly and
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so and this you know this this little
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piece of paper that is telling everybody
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that they owed want somewhere between 21
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and 27 dollars each is vibrating on the
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table in you know that and some people
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some people are actually levitating it
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with their anxiety and it's like you
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know 27 bucks round you know around 30
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please just put out a plan $40 didn't
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just throw the money down and go on with
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your life and it says it that that kind
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of anxiety about money was a thing that
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I walked into adulthood with I walked
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into being a twenty-one-year-old with
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this feeling this this hyper
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consciousness that I didn't want to get
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short changed that and and and money
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seem to be the the the language that
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human beings used to determine like who
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was getting over on who and so I spy
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wasted so many years trying to make sure
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that i didn't get I didn't get
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short-changed thirty cents when all
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along the simple wisdom that you should
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you should paper the
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the path in front of you with your
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gratuities you should put your money to
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work in MN your number the number one
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usefulness of money is to make your
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anxiety about money go away like here it
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is here's here's forty dollars
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I'm not like you say I never want to
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speak of this again and and learning
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that was a was this you know this
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turning point for me but it came too
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late to to have that information when i
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was 20 21 years old to just free up my
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spirit so that I was not walking around
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all the time
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I mean I i would go I would show up in a
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town the rain would be pouring down i
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would be soaked to the skin it would be
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eleven o'clock at night that would be in
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Spain and I would see this you know
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little little side Pensione and I would
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walk up three flights of stairs I would
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knock on the door and the little Spanish
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woman would open the door should go see
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i would say you know you have a chambre
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LOL casa de chambre portal or the exact
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NASA dealt a fake it
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yeah and and she would say you know yes
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it's a 1500 per se disz or something
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like that and i would happen in my mind
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that our room was the room should be
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thirteen hundred percent is our 13,000
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percentage women and I would and I would
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try and haggle with her but I was a bad
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Hagler and she would say no sorry it's
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that's the price it's eleven o'clock at
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night and you're standing in the hallway
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here dripping wet and it's this much
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and i would say well no then and turn
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around and walk the five flights back
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down into the rainy night and sometimes
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walk around the town for another two
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hours late but you get you one but i
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want you know and I'm looking for this
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magic room that that was going to save
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me two dollars and sometimes the great
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those through the greatest nights of my
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life for when I ended up back at that
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woman store two hours later ringing the
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buzzer and she wouldn't answer and all
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because all because I will I was
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imagining that it was that that the two
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dollars symbolized savvy the two dollars
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symbolized that I was that that I was a
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I was a knowledgeable person who wasn't
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being who wasn't being worked by the
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70-year old Spanish woman that was
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renting out a room in her house you know
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that I was that I was wise and in fact I
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was a fool and when I what I'm gonna
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meet somebody who never had that burden
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who was just by virtue of how they were
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raised by virtue of the the grade of
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milk that their mother used in aircraft
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macaroni and cheese
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they came into the world with you know
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either a more generosity of spirit or
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less confusion about what constituted
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this is the problem this is part of the
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problem with matriculating young
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students in sunset university is that
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I've read the older students would be
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distracted by their envy and resentment
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as the young people who are you were so
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much better at this
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just began their lives of like graceful
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kind of progress through time and all of
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us old crouches everything yeah but yeah
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I mean also you should give yourself
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credit it's also kind of a wax on wax
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off situation where we have to we should
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we may need to teach you something that
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you can get your head around before we
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teach you what we just taught you and I
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think that happens a lot
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I mean in the case of my kid when like a
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year or two ago whenever she first
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started going to soccer
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well the real goal of soccer is to show
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up first of all and then to even have
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the government doesn't have time you get
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your orange slices you could but you
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know I mean honestly it's this is what
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the one of the few things where I will
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cede the whole like learning to sit
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still and understand that you're part of
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a team thing you know I I think you can
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take that too far if you take it all the
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way to your senior year of college but
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but sometimes sometimes that's what it
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takes and and you will be a stronger
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character person out of that and to your
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point about the money in this is in some
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ways very related to the Chinese ladies
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and walking talking over expired coupons
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for some people as you know and I think
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sometimes this is true for you it's not
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a question of the dollars and cents
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it's a question of what we agreed to so
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it seems to me that if you show up that
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place if you want today you would you
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would be like a gentleman and you say
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well i'm going to give you I you know
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you want 35,000 piasters for this one
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that the money is there but you and your
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in you do this much they say no when you
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walk away again like like a gentleman
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now in the case going to chicken fingers
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place in tallahassee in 1993 what
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troubled me was the ones who are the
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biggest dickholes about the tab where
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the PhDs with the people that that at
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the time we're making three times as
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much money as i did I and I think what
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it comes down to in some ways is that
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there are yes there's certainly a lot of
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personality flaws and player one of them
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is that money makes it easy to
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understand
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where you stand and so if somebody is
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trying to get more of your money or
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really any of your money and you hold
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that dear
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even if you've got the money I can
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certainly understand that you don't get
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rich by spending money i understand that
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but but at the same time like you're
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right it's a certain generosity of
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spirit and this is certainly getting
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outside of your own stupid head and
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understanding that that i am not going
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to be able to get back and finishing
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summarizing this goddamn deposition if
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you sit here and argue over a four
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dollar chicken finger bill you know what
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I mean like to dance with her school
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could do is help people understand
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eventually once they're ready to accept
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there's a lot more to it i would i would
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even argue that you do get rich spending
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money that was a little reductive but
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you know what i mean like that is
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precisely how you become a person with
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that I mean I without getting too like a
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loosey goosey Lulu about how money is
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made i know that the the fashion now in
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America I think that maybe even the
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fashion world wide is to think so in
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certain quarters that making money and
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being a success in business is a woowoo
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proposition that if you're if you're
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Buddhism is correct and your your your
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spirit is open and your your chakras are
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aligned that money is going to fall from
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the heavens and I and I I feel like that
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is a kind of mind rate that I that I
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hate with every with every it really
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makes you small section scimitars every
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ocean some recent are in your bathroom
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and make it makes you a very small
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person i guess i do believe I do believe
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that spending money freely at being
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generous rather tipping bellman and the
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guy that opens the door for your taxi
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you know handing him some money even
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though even though it is clear to all
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parties involved that he has not
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performed very much of a service opening
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the door for you is not a thing though
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that doesn't that that does not cost a
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except it does cost a dollar because
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that is what we have agreed he opened
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the door for you you
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and I'm a dollar that is the that is
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part of the social contract and to
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preserve that dollar for yourself is to
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live in a world where you are not fully
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embracing the social contract and
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therefore not going to prosper by
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definition you know that the learning
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that lesson that money that a lot of it
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the money is fake money is absolutely
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fake and two to treat it like it's real
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and to preserve it like it matters is to
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miss the point of it entirely and it
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that is not to say that you should be
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that you should be a like wantin with it
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you should count it and you should know
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what it represents
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but you it's also it is just a symbolic
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thing and had the last five years of my
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life i have i have been living in this
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weird relationship to money we're all of
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a sudden i have a bunch of it and then i
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live off of it for a long time and then
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I have a then all of a sudden I have
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more and every time i have a bunch of it
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i think i made in the shade
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I'm gonna keep having i'm going to keep
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getting big bunches of money like this
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money is going to keep arriving in bales
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and I'm just gonna I should go out and
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buy myself like a a really useless watch
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or electric car and then it and then I
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you know I live off of this bail i'm
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like the I'm the horse that comes into
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the barn and nibbles at the end of his
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bail for a couple years and then the
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money's gone and I'm and if I said if I
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succumb to the feeling of like the
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money's gone
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I used it all up I blew it I blew my my
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big nest egg
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you know I can get into a real panic but
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then then it just then then all of a
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sudden the door opens another bail comes
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in and i just have realized all monies
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totally fake and and they this business
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I think when people work for a paycheck
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that comes very regularly and there's a
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there's a real clear correlation between
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I worked 40 hours 40 hours is worth X
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dollars here come the dollars
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and and so it's so money and time become
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very real feeling and it seems like if I
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stopped working for a moment the money
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will dry up there will never be more or
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I have to go find another place like
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this where i work 40 hours and get you
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know that money and time are so
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inextricably time and and I i have just
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realized that money is just this it's it
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is absolutely just a handful of
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seashells and it is not the point
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it is not the thing to guard it is not
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the thing to treasure and so yeah that's
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why I never do anything anymore just
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that sale got example i'm sorry i just
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never level on your bail i said and sit
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in the front window of my house with my
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you know my elbows folded on the on the
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the windowsill looking down the street
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for the truck that's gonna back up with
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the money bail every day it doesn't come
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well it's it's easy to see more or sound
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careless by saying something like that
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but I happen to agree i think with a lot
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of that and one of the things is that
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when you've got let's see you've gotten
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into a position where you get a job and
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you're grateful to have a job or any
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kind of ongoing work it you know it's
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kind of conditioning where it's been
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made clear to you that this is the bar
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and when you hit it
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the pellet comes out right and if you
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start doing that for long enough
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regardless of what it is I mean that
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could that could be beer too but
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whatever it is when you hit the bar the
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pellet comes out you start and these are
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looking forward to you hit the bar
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certain number of times and a certain
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number of pellets have come out that's
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it's going to cause a lot of anxiety for
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you to think about a world where you
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miss a couple pallets right arm and I
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think that I'm not trying to reduce that
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because everybody you know has what they
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need gives you should get what they need
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but but you're right you lose track of
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the fact that this is an abstraction and
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that this isn't the only way it's not
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the only way you could get it it's not
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like you just sit around and wait for
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bales to show up but you know the nature
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of what you do you would have to be able
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to tolerate
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that feast in more feast and
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occasionally pseudo family for a while
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because you've got the confidence to
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know that like Helen put it this way the
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and I don't know this might be too high
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level but i think the fact that you even
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need money a lot or need money a little
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has very little to do with what's
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happening in the rest of the universe
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and because of our own heuristics and
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hang-ups it's really easy to think that
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the more i need this money the more
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likely i think i will do anything to get
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it but the funny thing is this is also
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slacker like some kind of a self-help
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thing but like well the truth is like
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you know if it's going to be something
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we're now you gotta drive four hours
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round trip every day and do dry cleaning
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and have a job that you hate well yeah
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you got a bar and maybe you've got a
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pellet but in some ways that makes you
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even more enslaved to that same concept
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instead of going on it's worth it for me
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to find something that has a bar that I
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like that reality like you tell it
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anywhere we get into this bar and pellet
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a situation and we forget that we are we
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are actually natively made to eat grass
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in the field like the pellet is not our
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natural reward you know the pellet and
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then and and again we don't want to I
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don't want to be too woo either but it
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is very very hard you you get so
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conditioned to the barn pellet that you
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will be you you will find yourself in if
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in like a field of flowers and you will
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miss the bar you'll you not you it's not
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just that you miss the pellets you'll
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miss the bar the connection the clear
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connection you had between this
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mechanical action and the and what you
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what you consider your sustenance
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so I much my life has been a a progress
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of learning to feel like money is not
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the thing and you would think with this
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when I was 16 years old I was so
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consumed with the idea of money as an
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abstraction and has a real thing you
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know I can i collected Cohen's i
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collected silver bars
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I would go to i would go to those gym
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and numismatic shows in Alaska work
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where guys who were mining raw or wood
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comments just sell buckets of dirt to
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each other and I remember buying
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rockhopper that had been mined out of a
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vein of copper just like a it's just
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like a like us kind of a crumpled-up
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baseball of just pure copper and i would
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buy these things for you know look at
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the time a little baseball a copper was
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only a buck or two I would buy this
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metal not because I ever thought it was
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going to be worth more money or because
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i was going to take this this raw metal
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and and trade it with my friends or
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anything or fashioned it into jewelry i
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would I just that the idea that that we
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had we had collectively agreed that this
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metal was precious appeal to me I wanted
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to own it for myself and so you would
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think at 16 17 years old I would have
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made life choices that would have put me
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in like a closer or a more direct
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relationship with money that I wouldn't
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become a stockbroker or somebody who who
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sits and just plays with money and
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invents money makes money out of nothing
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but for whatever reason I took that that
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that love of money in all its many forms
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and then chose to be a dancer basically
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at you know I chose to I chose modern
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dance as as my expression of my inner
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light dinner and entertainment monkey
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yeah like oh great i love money and i am
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you know and I and I worship money like
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you know you've seen on my wall here i
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have a sheet of uncut bill two-dollar
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bills and your favorite websites is what
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your money's worth he melted down
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yeah what's your money's worth when I
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mean like what's another hit I i have I
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got free when I was carrying when I had
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that chain wallet
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I used to carry around
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Bourne Identity style safe-deposit
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exactly what like six hundred dollars
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worth of tiny folded up that tiny
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folded-up twenty-dollar bills and all
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the different of all the different
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nations of the world what it what is
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that it's a kind of relationship to
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money occur crazed like and a lot of
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ways it was a simple love I just had a
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simple love it I just like a little
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miniature art museum near your ass in
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some ways right it's like a little
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display
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yeah a little display in a little game
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and a little thing I could sit monkey
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with with my fingers but to have chosen
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a life where two chosen a life in the
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arts where money is is seventeen steps
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down on your maslow hierarchy you know
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like you are you're so you're so it's so
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long after the show before the smoke
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clears enough that anybody's even think
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about money again and at that tension
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that tension has been in my in my in my
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whole life you know like it is it if if
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I had gone in to stock brokering and had
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just been interested in solving math
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problems to create money and then
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collecting money i may have been a more
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that may have been my duck you know I
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may have been a it in some ways a more
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realized person if not a Abra as brought
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a person I would have been more
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my life would have had that sort of
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targeted self-knowledge that that event
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I see in people who like my sister
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realized 15 years after the fact and i
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watch the realization hit her like a ton
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of bricks she realized that she had been
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put on the earth to have been an Olympic
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skier and she and she bailed out of
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her competitors and all the girls that
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could never catch her on the ski race
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mountain ended up being the US women's
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olympic team for that era like her
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friends and nemec's went on to be the US
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Ski Team and none of and they weren't
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none of our medalists but they were the
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ski team and they did go to the Olympics
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and my sister was a better skier than
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they were and she realized it
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many years later like oh shit that was
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my thing I should have if I had been an
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Olympic skier my whole life would would
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have this order it would have a context
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that it's lacking now I'm missing the
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it's like I'm missing a limb and I you
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know I often wonder whether whether that
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that relationship to literally to
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coinage you know to like bags of coins
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right when I when I was a little kid and
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I would get a quarter because people
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give quarters two little kids I don't
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know they still do that they should have
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used to i would put it in a shoebox and
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I told you this story
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ok i had a shoebox that I would change
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it for 25 pennies because it made me
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feel richer
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I like that that that's that I like that
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very much but i would put this I put
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whatever coin I got any denomination i
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would put in the shoebox until I had a
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shoebox
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that i couldn't i thought i could barely
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lift I used to keep it on the top shelf
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of my closet and then I had to keep it
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under my bed because I couldn't I
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couldn't lift it and i would i would
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pick the shoebox up and I would put it
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on the bed i'm going to close my door
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lock my door and go sit on my bed and I
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could take the money i know in big
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handful now and i would pour it over my
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you'd have a little uh quarter shower
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yeah i would hurt i loved it we can
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really feel the money I you can feel the
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money and i was i was literally bathing
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in my wealth which shoe box full of
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quarters is you know I know exactly how
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much it is because i eventually my mom
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convinced me to take it to the bank
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handed in and the woman behind the
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counter gave me a bankbook where they
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had typed a hundred and seventeen
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dollars in the bank book and then my box
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of quarters was gone but in its place i
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had this bank book which looks like a
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passport that had this amount of money
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in it and I could take the bankbook out
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and stare at my hundred and seventeen
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dollars in this new form which was you
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know a promise that was at as satisfying
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different different different kind of
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thing it was a different kind of
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satisfying because I had because my mom
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was initiating me into the into the
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culture of adults by taking me to the
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bank now I had a bankbook now I was you
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know now my money at had joined the big
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stream and I was part of the big
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operation there are so many times in my
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in my young life where somebody
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initiated me into like when I got my
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first check book initiated me into this
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the big operation the world of adults
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who were trading money and stock
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and you know i was fascinated by all
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that I wanted to be a part of it and and
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yet there was nobody nobody took me all
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the way you know nobody explained maybe
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the next step beyond having a bank
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account and I mean I and people bought
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me stock for Christmas when I was
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because I was one of those kids are
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holding out hand that so much i got
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stock for Christmas and I was thrilled
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that would open up the newspaper and I
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would look for my little penny stocks
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and the stock the stock that I had was
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trading in the 75 cents a share realm
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and i had a hundred shares and you get
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to watch that change I would watch it
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change and sometimes I'd be up and
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sometimes i'd be down
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you said that you're so good at like
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what watching and waiting
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you're really good at that yeah I like
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to watch anyway but the problem is with
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the stocks and with a lot of things I
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watched my stock go up to a dollar-fifty
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share and then I watched it plummet to
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forty cents a share and then I watched
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it plummet off the bottom of the of the
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stock exchange who and it felt to two
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cents a share and then was delisted and
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that's why you're angry at politicians
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now up the one of the companies i
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invested in in like nineteen eighty made
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some kind of hose that was used on the
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space shuttle and I thought this is a
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growing industry and that's cool and and
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then it turned out you can't really like
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your business isn't going to thrive just
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making like one hose that's a pretty
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specific vertical market
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yeah you need to diversify but you know
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I've watched my fortunes go up i watch
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them go down I am NOT I'm a hoarder
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you know that's not as crazy yeah i mean
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i-i don't derail you but like I i think
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i personally I mean I don't think you
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nothing you feel bad that like I think
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there's an important distinction to be
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made that at least I
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at this point and for now feel like I've
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learned i'm not like a successful person
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by the longest stretch of the
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imagination especially money-wise but
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when you think about what you described
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like somebody going to wall street or
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somebody who's going to be in
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numismatics or whatever like I think
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it's important that I promise that even
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anywhere near right now you know it was
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good like to think about this breakdown
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though one that I think is interesting
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in one that's very personally important
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one is like think about the aspects of
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being a one of those people like you're
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a banker or you're a mergers and
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acquisitions person or really your
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cashier whatever it is like think maybe
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this goes right back to the bar in the
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pulpit think about like what aspect that
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appeals to you because like in the grand
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canyon going back to the the great
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Robert Evans he realized never put his
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own money into a movie like he made a
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lot of money for himself and others but
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he did that by realizing it's not like I
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can be creative block check on the
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computer I can make five hundred dollars
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a night playing blackjack on the heat
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computers i'm really good at it and I'm
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really i'm on the computer with fake
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money i am really great at employing
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basic strategy like I know what cards to
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play when it's you just basically become
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a robot who gets free Heinekens well
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virtual Heinekens but in the casino mess
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because it might be the dollar table and
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i'm still screwing up so i guess i'm
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saying is like if you're somebody like I
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think a lot of people make the mistake
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of saying I like money a lot so I'm
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going to go do this money thing and they
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kind of leave it at that
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but that sets aside the part like my
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daughter collects bottle caps
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I collect comics and I think it's some
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ways that's the same kind of impulse as
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somebody who wants to for example
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collect money like in your case you
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really like having those quarters in a
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box but that gives me the second point
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which is how you want to spend your day
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I think people don't ask themselves that
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enough and and this is real fancy but i
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really believe this i succeed but we've
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seen people who go go through like all
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things we talked about becoming a doctor
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becoming a lawyer coming all these
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things and it never completely occurred
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to them while they were studying let's
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look at this way the first you aspire to
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be an attorney and so you watch attorney
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TV shows or maybe if you're really smart
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you read books then we do you go to law
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and yes i did Allah but really there are
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in your in your cosmology was aspiring
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to be an attorney begins by watching
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attorney TV you're telling me you watch
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SWAT and didn't want to be on the SWAT
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yeah okay you're right ok and so that
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maybe you go to school for a pretty long
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time but you know what you are you're
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not a lawyer
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you're not a law student you're a
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student you've gotten good at being a
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student student and i'm referring here
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specifically took 214 in particular and
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a couple other people then you I knew
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this woman who made all the way into
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studying for the bar which is not easy
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is not until she was in a study group
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studying for the bar that she realized
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how much she hated lawyers and she did
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not like being around them so i guess
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this is long winded but I'm trying to
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say is that i think one reason a lot of
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people are unhappy
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maybe because the bar maybe because the
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ballot but because they don't really
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think about what they like to do all day
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if you become a manager and you don't
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like going to pointless meetings you
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have the wrong kind of job if you love
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money but don't like being around
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bankers if you you know if you like the
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idea of making movies but can't get
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along with the crew
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you picked the wrong job because i
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forgot what you like to do and who you
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like to spend your time with
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I wanted a job at a stockbroker during a
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bank that involve me going into a big
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Scrooge McDuck room behind a giant
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circular vault door and pouring money on
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my head
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everyone's that's just the taking of
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pelham 123 remember that degree that's
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maybe original one way yeah yeah yeah
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well the reason he said that i was
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immediately taken back to the scene that
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is totally remember this correctly I
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guys could be an Oprah memory is such a
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clear recollection I would never want to
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spoil the end of the movie because it's
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a really good movie but it was on a lot
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when I was a kid and I know it's had a
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huge influence on like Tarantino and
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stuff but like i just saw all the time
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when I was a kid is just another one
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o'clock movie for me but there's a scene
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at the end where martin balsam has his
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cut and if memory serves and martin
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balsam money is a troglodyte he's in his
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little tiny crappy room he dumps his
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entire share of cash on the bed and
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starts rolling around in it and it's
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like you know that's kind of appealing
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not and it's just because like even if
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you take that money away from me and in
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it kind of fun to get to roll around
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for all its super appealing and you know
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I when we were when we were kids growing
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up the trope of the heist movie the bank
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robbery movie or the especially any
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movie where they were going to knock
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over Fort Knox there's a plan yeah you
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could also be stuff like the you don't
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like the that one
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robertshaw movie i like but the force 10
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from navarone right you gotta it's kind
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of a heist movie right you got to go out
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and you gotta go let's take this
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everyone is maybe it's maybe in the top
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sorry I studies but the first time from
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their owners in the top it's definitely
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in the top four movies that that
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informed my entire net that's Harrison
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Ford younglife Harrison Ford it's the
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it's the classic film where there's a
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there's like a british guy who's an
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explosives expert i love that if gia the
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the black guy is a hand-to-hand combat
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guy you know it's and they go on the
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mission to blow up a dam it's so
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wonderful of movies like that it makes
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me so happy but any any movie that
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involved
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well and and and to that end any movie
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that involved a vault full of money
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it predicts lets a guy a guy pushing a
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cart that had gold bars on it or a room
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that was full of a room that you were
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breaking into that was full of
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explosives or guns that he and stealing
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eatery it was totally totally appealing
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anything in any case those were my those
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those I I think I've spent my entire
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life trying to figure out how it is that
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i am going to be a not just a bank
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robber but a bank robber who is robbing
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banks to defeat the Nazis like that i
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think is was really my job a bank robber
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who's also fighting the Nazis and I
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there's a there's like that's my missing
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that's your did that by way of a duck i
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want to point out just going to quickly
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searching just make sure that these
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facts right for 10 from navarone yeah
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and I think yeah From Russia With Love
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all featuring mr robert shaw robertshaw
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robertshaw and this day and this thing
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where he gets his be on the other end of
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the heist
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yeah in the sunshine i'm in From Russia
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With Love with blonde hair getting
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punched in the stomach by that lady from
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that with that German composers wife
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mmm mmm good violence profiles wife
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Oh No kidding mhm she was in a lot of
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his productions you know there there
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there was a movie a starring Frank
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Sinatra where they were they steal a
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train you know that I want to find Ryan
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Express on Ryan's express and if you
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watch fun runs express their the the
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german girl that they kidnap with the
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train and listen
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who was the man who was the mistress of
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the of the bed the German body and then
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she becomes like obviously she falls in
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love with fun Ryan or some shit she she
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turns the tables this german girl was
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not German she was Italian and it ends
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up that she was the girl that did the
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dancing in the prison colon and Q's old
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video so put that in here put that in
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your pipe and smoke it is that exercise
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thing or reason Poland instant queue
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zylle have I know that has nothing to do
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is just a new button
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no I've never I've never explained to
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you prison Cola and I've got a card and
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a pencil and even know what letters to
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make so this is an industrial band
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no no there there so there was an
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italian actor and I'm going to find his
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name for you right now
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Prison colon incident easel there's an
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italian actor named adriano celentano
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and and he had a like a a he was one of
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those actors that was kind of the he was
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the Marlon Brando of Italy or something
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like that he was the somebody of Italy
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famous actor and he had a music career
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in the early seventies
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and he wrote this song prison colon
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incident cubicle which is him as an
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Italian guy who doesn't speak English
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singing a song of nonsense lyrics that
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it that sound like what he imagines
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english sounds like oh
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english sounds like oh
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so he has an entire song where he's just
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singing in made-up the way with a
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conscience dachuan together the way we
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would be like always a booboo Sousa long
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as you can write an entire song in that
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style record zit and it's a hit in Italy
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is like a novelty hit well yeah but but
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here's the thing huh
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it's a killer song it is killer
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so you spent three minutes to give me a
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hand on the spelling so pris en prison
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some real priest prison colon and I cool
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there it is there's incontinence and
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kill so watch this music video the that
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they're there to videos but the one that
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you want is the black and white one and
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he's and they're both recorded like off
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a TV they're terrible quality but this
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tune got stuck in my head a couple years
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ago and I had to watch this
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I had to watch this thing once a day I
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watched it once a day for a year because
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the the the backing track of the tune is
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kind of a like a crazy loop it's got
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horns it's it's got kind of proto fuzz
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distortion and and the way his vocals
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kinda it it's like he ate in a way he
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invented rap because it kind of wraps
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instead of things and I don't know this
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track is amazing i listen to it still
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all the time but the woman in the video
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is the woman from von Ryan's express and
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I think those are the only two things
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she did that were that that had any
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traction outside of Italy and you're
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like a gene Shalit gene siskel that's
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amazing that's encyclopedia John reason
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I so I know I niz one or a it's fine
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nonsense my nonsense right none of it
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means anything it's just it's just it's
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just well then I ever tell you I when I
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first went to college there was a
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Japanese kid that lived in the dorms and
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he didn't speak English dream
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and one day we were sitting around
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drinking and smoking pot and my my
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friend Bob had this kind of moment of
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insight and he said he said to the to
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the exchange student he was like how do
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you imitate Americans in japan and the
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kid didn't get it at first he was like
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huh what do you mean
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and so Bob said well like when we
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pretend to be Japanese like all my soul
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corrupt a oh yeah but you're looking for
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his hit was getting poun for him
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yeah and he was like oh icic and he
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stood up any like kinda shocked his arms
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out of the side like he was gonna like
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he was on a UH he was doing on a old
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western town and he said hamburger a
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hamburger
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bang bang look at me i could have
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intercourse without hitting your panties
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look at me
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that's awesome Chicago bang bang
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I love that kind of stuff i love to hear
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like the onomatopoetic in different
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languages and we must sound so it's like
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you never know it's like Russian of
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course she knows russian and german
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people like they could be they could be
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flirting and it sounds like they're
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about to have a fight
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russian people sound really mad when
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they're speaking Russian people are mad
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is that right there just man we've used
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to be in the movies go to the y before
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we have a child and we would go places
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we go to the y in the morning and night
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to a little bit of a workout and then i
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would go into the sauna where everyone
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spits and they would always be these two
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you know you know the way the last
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special Germans right you get this real
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the real round and shiny and bulbous
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Chinese to Russian guys with will talk
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and like just short of yelling they were
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six inches away from each other
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everybody spitting and they would they
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would yell at each other and you had no
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idea what they're saying but they're
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clearly friends they kept coming back
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maybe they were was a long negotiation I
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don't know they're still up the Russian
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people are man they are still very mad
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that peter the great cut off their
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sleeves
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there's there they're just they're mad
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about a white again sorry when he cut
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off the sleeves
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why did he cut off thursday metaphor
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know they actually cut off their sleeves
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but there was but before before Peter
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the Great modernized Russia the fashion
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for centuries there was to have it
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sounds ridiculous this was to have
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really really really long sleeves on
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your garments and I like really long and
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peter the great felt that this was not
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in keeping with the Russians that he
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wanted you know he wanted to emulate the
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court in france he wanted he wanted
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Russia to be like a European country
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instead of what he considered to be this
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kind of backward like medieval country
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and Sookie he mandated in the ferry in a
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very contentious decree that that uh
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that everyone had to cut the sleeves off
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and have normal sign under under penalty
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yeah have normal sleeves that ended at
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at where your hand was people hate stuff
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like that and he made them shave their
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long beards he cut their beards and he
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kept their sleeve
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how is that not the beginning of a
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revolution well in fact it was it's it
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certainly sounds it sowed the seeds of
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the of the rest of the eventual
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revolution and also I think why russians
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in bath houses are yelling at each other
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to this day it it makes perfect sense
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they're still upset that stuff sticks
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with you right i mean the kind of thing
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that came with your people have suffered
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indignity in the past I don't think
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that's the thing that's not the kind of
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thing that people let go of lightly yeah
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well it's any kind of forced
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modernization you still still
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celebrating candles that the lamps this
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state lid you know what I mean or some
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time ago
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yeah I somebody either a crack somewhere
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somebody was saying that every jewish
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holiday is about like bad news you know
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about like something going wrong
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it's but this is a huge thing I'm any
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notion in politics I is a lot like she
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is the Shiites and Sunnis are still
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super duper mad about mad at each other
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mad at each other to the point of
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wanting to kill each other because
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somebody somebody says that the real
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profit is is the cousin of the guy and
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the other people say no the profit is
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the mother is the uncle of the guy right
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and it's like you have to change a lot
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of icons if somebody literally fetishes
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like a religious icons you have to
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change a lot of the architecture of
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churches if that were the case
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well you know and I mean the thing is
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it's all it's all a little bit bananas
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to begin with all due respect and so I
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mean when you when you try and introduce
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even what feels to us like a fairly
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trivial change right i mean it's your
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religion right but I feel like I feel
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like the long sleeves thing if Peter had
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just demonstrated that shorter sleeves
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were more efficient by like prancing
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around in short sleeves for a while and
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I'm not about short sleeves for timeout
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just less less long sleeves that what we
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now consider conventional Kennedy did
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not set out to kill the Hat industry
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that Clark Gable did not set out to kill
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the t-shirt industry but they said you
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know what let it begin with me let it
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begin with me
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that's right and and so you get this
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problem in in history where somebody has
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too much power and they're like you know
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what I'm just I'm drawing a line no more
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sleeves and that's when the problems
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started that's when the problems began
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right if Kennedy had said I hereby
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outlaw the Hat we would have every tea
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partier in the country would be wearing
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a hat right location of people in hats
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hello Kennedy was just like I don't need
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to have a cool again how we're proud of
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my cold dead head but have you seen
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there's that there's a great shot of
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kennedy and johnson walking across
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walking in a in a rainstorm across a
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across an airfield and Kennedy doesn't
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have an overcoat on he's just in his
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suit and Johnson showed up like all the
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other guys with an overcoat
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and he realized that he was going to
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look like he was going to look like a
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pussy if he had this overcoat on so he
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takes the overcoat off and he's carrying
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it is him in his arms and he's been
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walking across this airfield and Johnson
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has this look on his face like why
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aren't you why aren't you wearing your
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this is crazy but he he was savvy you
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savvy enough to know don't show up to a
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no code party wearing a coat
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you know and even handed me the code I
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don't need a coat is very is very wise
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man i would never thought of Johnson I
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mean I know he's was extremely
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politically savvy and powerful but they
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eat so that for him though you think
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guessing that was not something about
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about vanity and appearances in this in
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a sense of like people thinking is
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fashionable it would be because he
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didn't want to look like some fruity
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dork was afraid of rain
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well it's like that scene in the movie
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MacArthur where he's you know it's
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during the war and he's reading fan mail
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or his assistant is reading fanmail
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allowed to him from people back in the
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states and they're saying you know
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they're sending this worshipful mail and
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then he reads a letter from a little kid
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who says you know General MacArthur why
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why are you always walking around
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carrying a bamboo cane
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do you have an infirmity are you lame i
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was just an application it was just an
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expectation and and everybody in the
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room like the room gets quiet and
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everybody's looking at him because
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MacArthur head the cane he had the
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corncob pipe he had the glass and grab
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your lenses the gold braid on his hat
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like the man had had more applications
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and Truman Capote he group he had had a
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duffel bag full of like props and he was
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like a sartorial carrot top
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yeah thanks yeah you're right it was a
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prop comic except he was the general the
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army and of course I'm wearing this
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toilet seat for ya and the general as
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all he and everybody gets quiet because
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I my god this kid just you know just
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said the emperor has no clothes
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basically my heart there walks really
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slowly across the room I mean I was like
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this is this is Gregory Peck as
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MacArthur I wasn't there to see the real
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MacArthur but i have a good authority
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from this movie he walked slowly across
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the room and he throws his bamboo cane
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in the garbage can and everybody laughs
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but it is true that from there was a
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there was a moment during the war when
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all the sudden MacArthur no longer had
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his cane and you never saw it again and
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it was yeah to prove to present the
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impression of a bigger how important you
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think that stuff is and again out
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speaking of another I general i learned
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about from movies like with patent you
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know he seemed like I was in military
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school the guys that you would really
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respect in the administration we're
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clearly people who had been in the
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military and particularly this marine
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not an ex-marine then the Marine who ran
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our naval academy he just looked like a
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million bucks he had no reason to dress
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like that but he looked great i mean he
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did not coerce you didn't spot on his
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seems were impeccable do you think part
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of that is I mean obviously there's
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there's a status part of it but there's
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another part of it is also like I'm out
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here like in the shit and I still look
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awesome
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like I'm getting stuff done but you've
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got to respect me because I look great
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in this time of privation and violence i
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still look awesome
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like what part of it it absolutely is
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and I think a lot of the you know Brooks
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Brothers if you if you get it really
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inside the whole Brooks Brothers machine
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you can find the place where Brooks
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Brothers still Taylor's uniforms for
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officers like they have a whole state of
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a whole section of their tailoring
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department that makes uniforms for naval
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officers and army officers who come from
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a certain background and if you are you
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know if you are a scion of a of a
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prominent family and you join the Navy
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you don't just get issued a uniform
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you're going to get report a you're
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going to get up bespoke artisanal
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exactly you're going to have a uniform
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Taylor just as all of your closer than
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and I think a lot of it is that you know
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I've told you that my dad refused to
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wear jeans because they were enlisted
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men clothes and DVD calm down girl hates
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he did he said I'm a goddamn office i
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wear khakis I don't wear jeans but but
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until very recently it was true that the
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clothes made the man you you could tell
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by a person's tailoring where his
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station was in life and at a certain
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point it people who had as as we can and
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then and this was because you could not
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afford clothes like that unless you
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lived unless you are a member of Estrada
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and sometime in the sixties when people
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started to have disposable income and
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you saw you know you saw first that that
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guys were spending a lot of money on
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flashy clothes i mean i guess that
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started as far back as the thirties but
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you know guys were wearing flashy
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clothes but then Ralph Lauren was really
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the one that introduced the idea of
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clothes that looked like the close of
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people with money and you could just go
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and buy these clothes now
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you didn't have to you didn't actually
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have to go to j press or you didn't have
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to inherit these clothes from your
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you could go buy clothes that looked
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like you had money and now we live in a
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world where like Seattle there are no
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dress codes in any of the restaurants
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here because some of the richest people
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in the world live in Seattle and they
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dress like slobs like a dress Steve
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Ballmer I don't you know I can't imagine
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he's just one of those guys where you
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can put him in a ten-thousand-dollar
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suit and it would look like he'd been
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sleeping in it like these insane hey
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pepper not there there there are people
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here who will show up to the nicest
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restaurant in town in a fleece jacket
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and some Dockers and we are all expected
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to admire them
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for their commitment to comfort for
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their commitment to their what they
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consider to be there like Street
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credibility they don't they don't have
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to dress up because they're so rich but
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what it you know what it's done is it's
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undermined one of the easiest ways you
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know and I and intentionally and in a
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clinic in a cool
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egalitarianism American Way the
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traditional ways that we told one
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another apart and could tell who was a
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you know who you would off your hat to
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who are all gone and now if you see a
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guy walking down the street in a really
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really great suit chances are he's a
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young guy who is spending his disposable
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income on close it is it's it's like it
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reads as a cup appearance in court you
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know your price and when you show up in
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your like a tech entrepreneur is on the
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one hand it it makes yes it makes you
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look like a person of the people because
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your your your dress down it but in a
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weird way it also Telegraph's a lot of
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power but if you could be the one at the
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meeting you know where Stan Smith's up
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on the table
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yeah you know it is power it is down to
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earth but it's a kind of power that is
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trading on like I am powerful enough to
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disrespect the right ninja so you know
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none of you guys should do this yeah
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right and and so so it is you know it is
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it is actually the wrong kind of power
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you know the power of being up being
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able to disrespect the rules is an
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adolescent expression that's why you're
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mad at politicians that's why I'm mad at
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everybody that's why i'm at the entire
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this comes up a lot it's very it's
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really disorienting to not have a way
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that we can know this is certainly you
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and I you know given our own sartorial
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decisions uh probably benefit from the
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fact that we don't don't have to get
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dressed up but i think it's kind of cool
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in New York there are many things i
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think it's kind of cool that people
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still like dress-up I I'm glad I don't
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have to do it but I think it's neat that
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people still get dressed up to go out to
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dinner and stuff yeah how else are you
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going to know that you're in the
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pretenders if you're not walking against
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a tide of guys in bowler hats and
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umbrellas walking across the Thames
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like I bet I bet the guys in the
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pretenders were like all the time
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thinking of themselves what the fuck who
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am i again and then alright i'm in the
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pretenders because everybody else on
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this bridge is where was wearing a suit
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mm that's how the guys in pink floyd new
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knew that they were in a band to band
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now now the only place you can find that
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is in is in New York City or Vienna you
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know the guys in Vienna dress pretty
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good i believe shot sharp dressers the
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real close town everything I know about
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Vienna comes from one Falco song and the
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third and up like the music in that
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yeah yeah we should Falco song Vienna
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calling ooo Vienna calling every Falco
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song had 200 was part of the o.r
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tourists around commissars in town
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ooo I guess I you know what i miss West
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Berlin think I wasn't asking but maybe
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get Buster in a bus day I angels on me
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but I like Alexander blog that talks
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like that silly old man fucks alone and
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columbia office in coffees was the wings
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of desire i don't know that i will of
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course you do it's that movie everybody
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saw with the angels in the library and
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the the trapeze lady and colombo
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remember that circa nineteen
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eighty-seven about the back wall this
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big big in German 97 i was already i was
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already really going from half rack of
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Schmidt to have recommended you don't
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get too many movies that way so do you
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have seen Hitler rage videos where they
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got with Hitler's freaking out and from
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that like pretty good movie last days in
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the bunker or whatever it's called
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oh yeah i have seen mr. that actor bring
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against please like it plays an angel in
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its it's really good but not nearly as
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good as you remember where i remember
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this is the problem with this was the
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problem with with me and culture as soon
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as I left high school and became a
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dedicated drinking person for
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from 1980 values your duck from 1987 to
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1997 like they're they're huge holes in
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what i understood what i know about
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popular culture because i just did I I
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didn't have any money and I was not
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I was subterranean I wasn't living above
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ground so what in if you were in a bar
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it wasn't to watch friends know or I
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would never be in a bar where they had
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TVs you know they didn't have tvs and
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the bars that I drink in my hand all the
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TVs but I think we're not College where
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there's so much stuff that like is now
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so much part like your your body the
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child actor I star trek new generation
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started and I i I've never been a Star
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Trek fan or anything against star trek
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but like everybody I know that's just a
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little bit younger than me that's a real
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touchstone for them maybe not quite as
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much as Star Wars was for me but you
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know they know so much you know there's
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something you missed like age-wise I
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just miss transformers I was more of a
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micro not sky
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yeah micronauts of course obviously yeah
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that Baron Baron Zemo that's many
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adventures but this the big remember the
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big black armor guy i still have I still
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have a little handful really well-made
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the metal ones were really well made but
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no I had to you have these ladies I
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think everybody has these latent periods
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and i was really in a bubble in a way
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that i am very happy about in college
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i'm glad that i was removed from you
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know even hearing stuff on the radio
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when I was in college it's nice to have
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a break from that
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yeah yeah because when you're in high
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school you are just you're so hyper
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aware of everything every new cultural
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thing and write about the right about
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when peter gabriel's so came out i just
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went off the reservation i suddenly
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associate that with starting college
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yeah yeah me too and I and I i just i
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came back came back to the world
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sometime in 1997 you time-traveled you
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came you came forward and he said Peter
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Gabriel he's a good-looking guy you
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gonna do it dude he's bald as a super
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creepy weird now yeah and walks walks
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like with a limp and wears a an
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ankle-length leather trench coat or am i
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confusing him with Rob health
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haha i would love to see Peter Gabriel
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riding on the stage on a motorcycle very
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awkwardly I would love to see a
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collaboration between Rob Halford and
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peter gabriel huh with with like Moby
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does the music okay sa9 up here Gabriel
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place flute and I know Rob how four
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plays a kind of flute
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yeah but I I don't know it just written
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in the tab fuck it we're done here
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