Ep. 63: "A Topcoat of Bonkers"
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beep hello
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hello hello hello hello
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why don't hear anything to come here now
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oh there you are haha he fooled you
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you had a you had a mute on
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worse than that it's a technical failure
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on my part
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what was it Mike not plugged in its you
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do you really care yeah I do
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really though I like I like to know
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about with ya and amateur technologist
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no more i had the wrong and audio input
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set up in skype and so my USB microphone
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was not used as the audio input
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oh my god boo
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well i was i I thought it was me because
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day bazan was over here the other day
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and he was trying to target disk mode
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some files knows about target disk mode
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into my computer and he hot plugged my
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my fireface firewire interface huh
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and so I was like oh ships you know back
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in the old days if you hot plug
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something hot
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if you hijacked it then maybe the get it
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it frizz your whole motherboard i was
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super concerned that my motherboard was
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frizzed and that's why I couldn't hear
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you right you what you know you gotta be
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careful if you're doing any kind of hot
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boxing on the pop bored you want to make
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sure that you got a full USB bus on your
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chigger bite that's what wow yeah so
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anyway it go did was he able to uh
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that'sthat's a tremendous thing of
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firewire target disk was he so he's
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getting some songs off to give you
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probably yeah and we what we ended up
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doing this is the thing that's
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embarrassing is that we were sitting
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around with her we couldn't figure out
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that you're in my in my octopus's garden
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of 7,000 cables seven thousand different
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versions of firewire and USB cables here
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we couldn't figure we couldn't find the
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right cable and then he pulled out one
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of these little USB drives that's the
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size of the you know how ski it was like
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oh i think i can put other put four gigs
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of stuff on this and I was like oh I got
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a couple of those around here too and
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and we did it all on those little this
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dumb little
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totally losing bowl USB drives did that
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make you feel like a wizard or a doofus
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or something in between
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mm I think I feel like a wizard when I
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can do that I it's definitely amazing
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yeah but it but I looked at this look at
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this room full of gizmos in boxes and
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cabling and all this like all this gear
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and then i looked at the little USB
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Drive which has an entire album on it
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and I was like uh a little bit slow a
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little bit dumb now because this thing
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you mean you know Jonathan Coulton gives
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away those USB drives with his entire
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catalog on them smart it's amazingly
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smart but but the equivalent at bar sook
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is that they sell you a reel-to-reel
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tapes in that in a box that has its own
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wheels so uh huh you know that's the
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sprockets can be real hard to replace
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you know you have the oil I'm going to
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boil your sprocket that's it that's nice
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that they're doing that down there
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moving forward right we're all moving
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forward like it or nine can help moving
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forward no sir i'm glad we did this
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happen with this john and you know what
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you know what Merlin i'm sitting here
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and in front of me are two comic books
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on my desk to comic books to comic books
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two separate taken they didn't take me
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somewhere we're going to provoke me are
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you being straight up my first comic
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book here is Joe Sacco's Palestine a
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graphic novel and then there's one over
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shigeru mizuki Mizuki's onward towards
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our noble deaths with you with these
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gifts they were but I am I have decided
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here's what i've decided i always loved
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graphic novels from the very beginning
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you know and and and what what am I
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trying to say like like american
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splendor or Dennis I corn we talked
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about Dennis I corn was like that some
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of the column slice-of-life comics like
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that's kind of a silly name but they're
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like you know Harvey Pekar stuff it's
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like you know real world
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real world and dumpling and stuff yeah
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and I i always like that stuff and then
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that that a and R crumb of course being
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my introduction to it and and the and
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the greatest and the great American hero
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but now I've decided that graphic novels
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are an art form that everyone else is
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enjoying and I am NOT enjoying them out
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of just out of a spirit of curmudgeonly
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pneus Wow because I go to bookstores and
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I see the graphic novels which net which
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used to be like four titles that used to
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be a used to be mouse mouse watch many
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to others
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yeah mouse button and then like the
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great dark rooms breast cancer Fritz the
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Cat you know right and and now now it's
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like a it's a it's a whole wall of the
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bookstore that stretches to infinity and
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I look at regular you know what it's
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probably all manga it's probably all
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just a the just dumb porn and and it's
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like octopuses have an intercourse with
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school girls on ships exactly and you
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read it
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fucking backward and you read it
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backwards and I don't want to fuck that
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I don't need that in my life
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no but I'm realizing that I am wrong
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I'm being a curmudgeon and I actually
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love this art form and that i need to
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get over myself
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whoa know it hurts me to say it and
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start start participating in this this
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wonderful turn of events I I couple
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years ago somebody gave me a graphic
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novel called blankets which was written
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by a guy in Portland that I know and my
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friend Tucker Martine was working on a
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record that went along with this graphic
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novel and it was a heartbreakingly
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beautiful book and I was like and of
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course as I read it I was like well this
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has got to be the exception there are no
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octopuses fucking teenage girls in this
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book this is about someone losing their
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faith in the volume love for the first
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time and I mean this is black salon the
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casino for these yeah this is too
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beautiful and this guy that this this
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book that i have on my table here the
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Palestine by joe sacco i read a book by
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him one time a few years ago where he
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was talking
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the war in Bosnia and it was beautiful
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and fabulous and I was like well this
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can't be a thing that is normal this is
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this has got to be an aberration now I'm
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realizing it's it is my taste that is
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the aberration
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Wow John this is a good on you man
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that's we've talked about this before we
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gotta be I think it's good for men of a
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certain age and ladies to be somewhat
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circumspect i'm super calcified on a lot
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of things I I admire this though and
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this is you you keep up with the music
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and now you're looking at the more
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sophisticated funny books this is my mom
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this is awesome man
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yeah so now i'm just not just not just
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as a person's you know I was on my
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comics I'm just saying it good for you
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for looking at something that you know
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little foreign silly
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well yeah and that you know and what I
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had to do what I had to admit was that
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from the from my very first exposure to
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this type of book which probably
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happened in college I don't think i was
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i don't think i met Harvey Pekar and
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Dennis Eichorn until I was rather in
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college but I immediately identified
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with the form and I wanted to make a
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graphic novel of my own I wanted to make
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it a autobiographical long-form comic
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book of my own and I didn't know how to
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do it i'm not i I'm i can draw but i'm
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not a drawer and I was like this you
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know this is like the great
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this is the great art form and I I think
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I I think maybe my disappointment that I
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never was able to figure out exactly how
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to put the pieces together to actually
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do a book like that of mice my own cause
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me to turn my back on it a little bit
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because I was because I was like oh it's
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so I'm so mad you know I don't think
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about i think i think you're you get
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your finger on something very
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interesting i think i think that i think
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that can certainly have with music I bet
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it sure as heck happens with films you
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know filmmaking or anything like that
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the vocab you understand you know using
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this with with the young kids were like
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you understand the vocabulary or
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something you know how to
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the tennis racket but it's really
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different from spending enough time
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inside of that process to actually
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produce something that you don't hate
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yeah the the when you want to when I was
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young I i imagine that the barrier to
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entry was was imaginative that the thing
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that kept you from making films or
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making graphic novels was that you had
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you didn't have enough imagination yet
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you hadn't you didn't have a great good
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enough story but you realize later that
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the barrier to entry is often just a
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structural its just its technical like
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you don't know how to work a camera and
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you can look at a scene and say this is
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how this is the picture I imagine the
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picture but i can't I don't know what an
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f-stop is I can't take that I can't take
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the picture and to say that the barrier
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to entry to making a graphic novel is
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that you don't know how to draw his prey
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is it is pretty like a node ah but but
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also i mean if i had if I had been
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working on this for 20 years I would
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have I would have developed an ability
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to draw well enough to accomplish when I
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was initiated you might be a retired
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comic book artist to this yeah right but
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instead i was like also a graphic
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graphic novel retired retired colonel in
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the graphic artists army so anyway yeah
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I'm having a very very exciting time now
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letting some of my mic the sum of the
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the hardened calcium that has built up
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it around my idea of comics I'm having a
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fun time chipping away at that and
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reading these wonderful books that have
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pictures drawing pictures
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mhm well I am I said I don't want to
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insert myself into this process because
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you know I'm gonna stay out of it and
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the way I'm going to reward this by not
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going on and on about comics with you
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and I will wait at least 30 days
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Oh before I start sending you trade
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paperbacks you never asked for
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I think you should read okay that's
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that's kind of a thing that i do now
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oh alright alright getting things in the
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mail pile of mail i was going to say
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trying to a young
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person the other day and i say i got
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this up it's happening more and more
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strangely i don't know what mustache but
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its head
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I said yeah you know back in the old
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days I you know I used to have dinner in
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this particular cafe so much that when
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people were traveling and they wanted to
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would send letters to this cat cafe and
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carry me and the young person said oh
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did did you and your friends like where
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you into like sending letters and stuff
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like a pretty cool gimmick like a pretty
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cool like stick
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retro they might want to pick up like
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the meeting or something
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ya like like it was like it was
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artisanal emailing and I said I said
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well yeah we did we sent letters back
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all we had the family with you
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communicate with someone when they were
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young once you run out of pigeons or
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signal flags like they sent me they sent
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me a postcard because otherwise I didn't
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hear from them for nine months and the
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and this person like you something them
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look off and go oh right right why men
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look back at me kind of like good and
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you could see that they saw me they they
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saw bowler hat on my head
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the monocle and spats that's like yeah i
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know i'm up i'm old person nice snuffbox
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i have a i still have a box that has a
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bunch of letter letters from girls and
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it's tied together with a little rhythm
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dear john you are the biggest asshole
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ever i burned online in a Weber grill
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you didn't now god yeah I used to have a
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man in separate boxes by my girlfriend
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ok divert some of them were big boxes
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some of the really angry ones are small
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and and then pin i will point us you
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know cleaning out some of my stuff out
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of my mom's house and I was like I can't
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pack this woman to do this I can't take
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this home so I went out and I just
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started up the grill
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you know oh yeah I found some starlight
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mints and some ticket stubs and just let
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her rip
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I mean you know but yeah but I i was
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exactly the same 90 to me there was a
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big passing notes culture in high school
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just certain way you'd fold the note you
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passed in between classes and became
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like some kind of a I don't know and
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adenoid all underground railroad we're
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actually you know move messages back and
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yeah i still have several notes a
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collected from that time that it sits on
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one piece of paper and in the the top of
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the paper in my handwriting it says be
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my girlfriend
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oh and then it's folded 25 times and
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lamination perfect natural and then
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underneath that written in like a purple
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pen is I would not be your girlfriend if
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you were the last boy on earth and then
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I under that is in my handwriting it
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says you know you want to be my
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girlfriend stop being coy you minx and
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then under that it says you are the
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grossest boy this spirit why are you
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writing notes and I swear to you I i I'm
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not I'm not even kidding and it goes
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down one side of a of a piece of
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notebook paper and up the other and I'm
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saying if I'm so gross why are you.why
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do exactly as long as the customers
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talking the salesman it's still closing
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that's right and she says I'm doing it
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because this is boring and I'm you know
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and I'm transcribing I'm transcribing
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this noted my own notebook as evidence
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we need you know when you try to kill me
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or whatever we go back and forth in this
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girl ended up being my girlfriend i have
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like a stack of notes of me winning her
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she was my high school girlfriend was
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much higher status than I was she was
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going into 11th grade she was absolutely
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the queen of our shoes the she was a
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four-point-oh she was the president of
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the junior class you
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captain of the cross-country running
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team she was all these things she was
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absolutely the Queen and I was the
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nerves as a set before last in our class
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you are i have memory serves you're
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essentially asked the day there was a if
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i remember right there was actually a
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project amongst the teachers and
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administrators to make sure that you
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found the door with dispatch
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that's right they tried it they they
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they they tried to see if i could spend
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all of high school in detention and they
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realized that that wasn't going to that
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wasn't gonna work so like let's just
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keep it movin keep it movin out the door
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but so I i said i set myself this is you
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know at this age I don't I I haven't
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done a thing like this in years but I
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set my sights on her and i said i'm
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going to make Kelly Kieffer my
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girlfriend it almost never works
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no no and it was this is very easy to
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even if not you but even if one is super
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creepy especially maybe but it almost
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never works
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it's very it was very very john hughes
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because i was a you know that I had
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absolutely nothing to recommend me like
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there was no way that this girl who sat
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at the front of the class wearing a an
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argyle sweater and like had the answers
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every question was ever going to ever go
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on a single date with the kid in the
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back of the class that had spaghetti
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sauce on his shirt and was you know
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what's back there going bad that and and
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yet through this through these notes the
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passing of these notes and by my
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relentlessness just like listen you
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don't think so yet but one day you will
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love me and when it happens I will I
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will try very hard not to tease you
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about all the time all the time that you
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were sure that this wasn't going to
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happen i'm gonna try very hard not to
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have this be a thing that
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that like I make fun of you about later
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and she was like you are the you are you
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have so much foot spa and you're so
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repulsive but i don't even have the
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words to reject you as fully as I want
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to reject you and I was like that's fine
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that's fine you just keep talking a
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little lady and little by little and she
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said the turning point she maintained
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this she maintained this like
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impenetrable wall until christmas break
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and she and her family went to Mexico
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and they were sitting in a hotel and at
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this during my junior year I was famous
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citywide in Anchorage for being the
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master toilet paper i would enter a
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neighborhood and I would toilet paper
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that neighborhood absolutely into
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submission until until people like thin
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please you know I would knock on
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somebody's door a kid I knew that's a
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man i'm out toilet-papering neighborhood
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i'm out of toilet paper can I borrow
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some toilet paper and the kid would like
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go inside and bring me out a big 12 pack
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of toilet paper be like yeah I go get a
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man and they shut the door and i would
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start toilet-papering their house with
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their own toilet paper
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I was a terrible terrible teenager and
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Kelly said she was sitting in a in a
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condo in mazatlán with her family and
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they were looking out over the beach and
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a single roll of toilet paper came from
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higher up in the hotel and she saw it
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fall in front of her balcony and as it
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fell she realized that she loved me like
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it's trading stocks it was shooting star
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and she she said from that moment on
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that you know I own her body and soul
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and I had no idea I was still back in
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Anchorage like to do when you know when
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school starts again I'm going to resume
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my letter writing campaign and she came
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back in and apparently you know she saw
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me in a new light hurt her new eyes did
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not see that spaghetti sauce
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or loved it and it lasts for a while it
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didn't mean she was my shoes my only
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girlfriend in high school and this is
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the Irish the corners that assist the
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redheaded cornrows girl yeah wow yeah
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and you know she's now is a she is a
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well as far as I understand she's the
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chief of residence at Dartmouth hospital
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and is a one of those people
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one of the people that wears a white
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coat that has pens in the pocket that
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people make sure you for free it and and
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speaks to you kind of been in clipped
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abrupt tones about your own insides she
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committed to anybody at this point you
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do I get yeah it's strange how she got
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married to a wonderful man named Seth
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and I i actually like set a lot better
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than I like cat many wonderful man named
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well this skin thing is ever Seth had
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every strike against him he a has a
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ponytail be is from California SI è
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he's a Seth right you mean you're like
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me Seth and he's some kind of brain
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scientist but not a doctor like a brain
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scientist who isn't a doctor
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there's a lot of things about it guess
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that must be like the inner bearing
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Midwife that's exactly what it is like I
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look at him all the time and I'm like
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why didn't you just be quiet just got a
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little extra way and be a doctor if
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you're going to be a brain scientist but
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he but that's part of his sethness you
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know he's like oh no I really like this
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brain science
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I'm like yeah I know but dude a little
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bit you know be a doctor your epaulets
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have a little bit more scrambled eggs on
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them and then everybody gets out your
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way he's like a little wanted without my
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way such assets that thing that I sit on
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the stool and i put this stuff from this
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petri dish into that p tradition
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I'm like a it's really frustrating you
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don't understand anything but he's it
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turns out and when when when that when
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Kelly started dating Seth I was like
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this is this is not gonna work this dumb
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hippie he doesn't know anything
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Kelly was like no he's nice and I like
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yeah they got married and they had a
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couple of kids kids are nice and set
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this nice
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the only problem is kelly is a terrible
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person ok but that just goes I mean you
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don't get to be the you don't get to be
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the the chief resident to Dartmouth
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hospital without being a terrible person
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you know I mean no idea i mean like
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that's the kind of profession where you
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don't go in that to be a nice cornrowed
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lady that's or or guy i mean that's
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those people are there animals the other
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animals and everything she's one of
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these people everytime i send her an
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email i get an auto reply telling me
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auto reply that isn't like out of the
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office for two days I get a reply that
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that is like a page and a half of
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boilerplate telling me that my
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correspondence is confidential and she
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can't answer emails and you know there's
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like seven hundred different clauses and
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I right I was right and say get a
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fucking personal email address asshole
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like you know she might have 100 think
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if you think I don't like that she's a
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busy lady she's only got so much purple
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pen left up to the kids to take care of
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yeah that's it that's a shame but you
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know what I'm proud of you though it
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just shows you that you got you got
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gumption you get stick-to-itiveness I
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used to have come from Merlin I used to
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be a mission don't don't be that way
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you've got competition doesn't have
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gumption where you expected to be and I
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think that frustrates you got plenty of
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gumption our users are you saying that I
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might have Duncan in areas i don't i'm
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not i am not i'm going to go look for
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the can opener on this side of gumption
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i have dumped in other places and then
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somewhat summer right in the center of
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my heads up display there's like a burn
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hole where the gumption that I want you
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know what you go to war with the comes
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when you have enough gumption you want
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that's right
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absolutely there's the gumption we know
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and they'll come showing no we don't
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know now right yeah i think it's a lot
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that she was a runner and she knew that
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she could get away if she had to yeah
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doesn't hold my wife's running she's
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like a middle-distance runner and did
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marathons and stuff and I think that's
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part of the why she would why she would
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even consider you know looking into
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something like this Kelly was one of
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those high school girls that was
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so full of sass that she has yes she
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would take she would take a man she
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would sassa rhinoceros to its face like
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she had no compunction she was there was
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no said no worries at all she knew where
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she was going she when she would choose
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one of those 15 year olds that knew she
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was gonna be the chief residents that
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are the hospital and just get out of our
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way and that was you know that that was
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definitely part of why she was so
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interesting to me and what I and and I
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was trying to overcome the fact that i
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had no idea even when I was in that
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moment I let alone where i was going
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spaghetti stink really i mean i was
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sitting there like I don't know should I
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should I take up tobacco or should I or
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should I go should join the Peace Corps
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or should I just like should I just die
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right now I've got to quote the great
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day John he is he didn't know whether to
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shit or go sailing
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that's exactly right and and how how
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does that recommend you to anybody like
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hello how are you I'm fine I'm going to
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be a doctor what are you going to be uh
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but you're even like do you know what's
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his name matt dillon you weren't even
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like that Outsiders kind of character
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right you're like a leather jacket guy
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right you're right where you want an
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orange flight suit anymore at this point
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right your preppy did you dress like a
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preppy well I dressed like I I like I do
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now which is like there's a there's a
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there's a base coat of preppy right you
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take them to take the naked person who
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if you put on a base coat that 80 primer
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yeah and then on top of that you put a
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you put it like a second coat of like
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north west wall north west wall
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necessity and then the top coat is like
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a like except
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Rick bonkers or or Ignatius p Riley you
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know like he got get preppy and then
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then just walnuts st and then and then
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like bonkers hat hates bonkers hat scarf
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and then just the private the private
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comforts that can only come from roomie
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corduroy yeah and so and so during the
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grunge ears like I definitely wasn't
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grunge and all the grandkids were like
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what the hell is that but the but the
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but the but the bunkers on top of the
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Northwest wall it was just like right
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okay sure it there's enough there was
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enough like overlap with grunge with the
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grunge look that like okay the boots and
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the hat okay you're in right and it and
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growing up in Anchorage it was the same
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thing like well you remember when
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Columbine happened people were
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describing those two kids and and the
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fact that they call themselves the
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trench coat mafia and they were they
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were obsessed with guns and they felt
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like outsiders and remember at the time
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thinking you know I would have known
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those kids if I had been at that high
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school I would have been friends with
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them and in a sense at my own high
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school I was the equivalence kind of
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trench coat mafia where if you asked me
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I would have said yeah I would you know
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I'm a total outsider but in fact i was
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functioning member of the school and and
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actually an insider but i had i did have
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a trench coat and it had a skull and
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crossbones painted on the back in white
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and it was big skull and crossbones it i
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used an entire couple of jars and you
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know I don't gots make errors too haha
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sand and I and I did this then this is
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the this is the top coat of bonkers
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where it was like sure trench coat and
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it was it was a like a world war one
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trench coat that i bought an army-navy
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surplus store and then I just I felt
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like it needed something and I realized
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it needed a skull and crossbones and why
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and and and what was I going to how was
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I going to get the skull and crossbones
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on the trench coat white out too because
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whiteout was was my main artistic medium
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at the time right why thats everywhere
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it was kind of a new smells good it's
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available
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smells good it has a brush right there
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who and you know at a high school you
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you can you can avail yourself of
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whiteout
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it's a unlimited supply it's not like
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spray paint we gotta go to show your
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license or something you can pick that
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up anywhere right there medium and wide
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out you know i mean it and it it's
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pretty it's pretty weather resistant so
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now trying to picture the scene me
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walking down the hall of my high school
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in this and then it was it was it was
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pre duster era but it was a very long
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trench coat was ankle length trench coat
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with the skull and crossbones on the
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back it is it is ludicrous
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it is it hit it is if you if you needed
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a if you needed a picture in the
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dictionary next to geek
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it's complicated because you're not even
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sure which part to begin making fun of
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right but you so there's so many aspects
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to to the layers of bunkers in that but
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but but at the same time you really
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couldn't make fun of it because I was
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already six and a half feet tall and
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like I had a I was pretty serious about
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it you know I was pretty serious about
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like look out look out do you see I am
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poison and it sets the right now on the
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back and white apt I can take dangerous
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skull and crossbones what does that mean
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united Islam eating that's right that's
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right and so you know I
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so now try and picture and picture
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anybody being interested in picture and
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Kelly I got to be honest with you and
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she's this you know she's this will we
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super high school superstar with auburn
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hair like a like an Irish setter and and
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it was you know and and then breakfast
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club came out and we're at this practice
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khlo God hears the like here's the the
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pretty redhead girl and here's the John
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bender character who you know who had
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been Hollywood eyes enough less than
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what about you dad guy
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yeah exactly he'd been Hollywood eyes
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enough so that the the the set dressers
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on the fillmore like should we put a
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whiteout skull and crossbones on the
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back of his trench coat
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no that's too far but you know he was
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and the problem the problem was and this
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probably was true of you we were all
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every one of those people & Breakfast
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Club that was the why the movie was
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successful
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every kid could look at every one of
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those kids actually the epilogue to the
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movie and I'm kind of your city yeah
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when I gonna walk by the goalposts I
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think that's actually what what it reads
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were all everyone they're all reading
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from the thing that they wrote you know
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for that the guy from right
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Trading Places 48 hours which holds hit
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that one guys are the principal wasn't
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he didn't have a because you're the
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great character actors you didn't do a
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movie with a monkey he didn't I think
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you sodomized by a monkey
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oh no you're saying the guy that's like
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two months I got you
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yeah you don't want to say get the ball
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the ball mess with the bull you get the
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horns that guy
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well you get the horn the great line
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guys like he's a great actor
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yeah he's the one he's the one who does
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the jam up on not to derail you just
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came up on dan Aykroyd and trading
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places great movie
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right exactly does the B does the jam
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appease the vegetarian in the next guys
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uh he's won he's the one that the
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brothers bring him i love that movie is
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such a touchdown
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so every time every every Christmas I
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dress like a dress like santa and i
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always put a full smoked salmon in my
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in homage I man there's so much here I
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like I i had trying not to talk about
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myself but I totally i feel i feel the
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same way in two ways first of all at the
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time I would have done someone I told
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you I used to walk around with my
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members only epaulets on hold because I
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thought that really haha my way don't
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you just do this
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they're just putting a little bit of
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extra Flair on that time yeah you're not
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doing this
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Hey look at this I got this members only
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jacket down at the unit down the flea
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market and so it's not a real members
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only jacket i got the am wearing knee
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pads i slide down the halls on my knees
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and it's a thing I do and I i thought i
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was like such an outsider but the second
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part that the really in retrospect the
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parts of the real head head slapper is
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the whole like oh you know I i wasn't
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really outside it's the kids that i was
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sitting around making fun of that we're
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really outside because i was
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extraordinarily as much as I'd like to
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consider myself like in retrospect Peter
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Parker character or something it wasn't
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I was I had I had a date ridiculously
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sarcastic and cutting with that made a
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lot of people feel really bad and i'm
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sitting around acting like I'm Jeff
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Nelson I want
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yeah I that speaking of two graphic
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novels i just received in the mail a
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very interesting graphic novel as a gift
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from somebody which is is a book but
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about going to high school with Jeffrey
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Dahmer huh
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and this this comic book artist who's an
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artist that I'm that I'm familiar with
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from like alternative weekly magazines
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he's been he's been writing comics for
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years and years and he's one of the you
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know he's one of the great she would
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recognize his work but it turns out this
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Dahmer and was and wrote this
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autobiography which is basically saying
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the same thing like we thought we were
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real you know real nerds and outsiders
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and Dahmer was our was our was kind of
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our mascot but in reality Dahmer was
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messed up and we and and we let him into
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our gang only enough that that he was
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kind of our pet because he was such a
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that we could walk around school and
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like Dahmer imitated having cerebral
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palsy and we all thought that was
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hilarious and that was kind of our it
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was one of our motifs mean they went to
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school in the seventies right before
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image but before pretending to have
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cerebral palsy was considered man far
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with everybody's doing it at John factor
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ya back Dorf back turf turf
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alright dirty doesn't derf yeah
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apparently um and so this so this book
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is really is is really heartbreaking
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because he's talking about the armor
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before he had you know when he was still
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out in the woods gathering animal
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skeletons or he was still picking up
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roadkill before he'd never hurt anybody
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and it's like in that you know harming
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cats days
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well it was even before he was he was
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harming cats he did a lot of he didn't
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do a lot of an alarming he ended up
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doing it yeah in it as a you know animal
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harming is kind of a gateway drug to
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totally to like killing boys but this
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was still when he was just picking up
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dead animals out of the woods and
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expressing like an unusual on natural
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fascination with them but so this guy is
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telling the story and it's like and he's
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looking back kind of with a feeling of
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responsibility but also pointing a real
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finger at the adults at the time and
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saying this kid was getting wasted drunk
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before school every day and trying in
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every way to cope with what was going on
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in his mind and he was being ignored by
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the by the faculty and the kids were
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just you know we let we let him into our
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gang because he was he was such a
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because he you know he reinforced our
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kind of like where the where the funny
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kids were the where the Bender's money
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might immediately to state the obvious
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he probably seemed emblematic of the
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edginess they wish that they had and
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having him around let some of that from
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a certain remove
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yeah he was he was a legitimate outsider
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and they kind of like took as much of
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that as they were comfortable with on
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onto themselves but as he says in his
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book as jeff says in his book like we
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never invited him over to our house we
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would we would hang out with him at the
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as long as he was funny and then we
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would stand there right in front of him
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and make plans for later in the night
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and not included
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um but Dahmer if you if you read his his
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own kind of after he was caught his own
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writings or his own confessions he's
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talking about the same period in his
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life where he is feeling these urges and
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trying to suppress them knowing the
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um so where he still had that kind of
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not distance exactly but he could still
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see that what he was doing was like you
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know it's one thing to say like certain
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people who have a certain kind of like
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deliver it
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cruelty kind of if you like evil where
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you're deliberately harming things are
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people just for the purpose of harming
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them and enjoying it but he was still
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had a certain amount of remover might
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like feel a little bad about it all he
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felt terrible and you know when he he he
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was wrestling with the fact that he was
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gay and he and he couldn't he couldn't
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obviously admit that to anybody in 1977
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but he also had this he had this desire
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to be in complete control to of a living
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thing to the point that he would torture
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it and and kill any knew it was wrong
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but but it was an overwhelming urge i
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guess and ended up
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certainly he ended up expressing that
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but it was but there was to read this to
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read this graphic novel is to you know
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to be put kind of into this moment in
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this kid's life where you're like oh you
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in there it was still possible for
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someone maybe to have intervened and
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directed him in in like somewhere else
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instead of like when you first realize
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that your kid is collecting
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a roadkill in jars of formaldehyde in
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the barn out back of the house like do
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you have a talk with him like he knows
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you're kid cries when they come home
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from church are you notice that they're
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not doing when they sit in the back of
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the classroom you try to put one and one
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together about these things that why
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they're not thriving right right kind of
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annoying
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yeah nobody did that in this instance
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but I think about those Columbine kids
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in that same way when that happened I
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thought about myself in high school and
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I was like I was you know I was building
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pipe bombs with my friends and we were
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going out on weekends and blowing up
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parked cars freely
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yeah you need to get harmed parked cars
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yeah and it's not think that I've ever
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talk about because I wasn't sure about
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the statute of limitations but i think
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it's passed on blowing up the phone
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blowing up cars but you know we were we
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we learned we all have the anarchist
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cookbook and the anarchists cookbook is
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great except it doesn't really quite go
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far enough
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we tried to make our own black powder we
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realized after the after we had spent
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weeks and weeks working on a black
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powder mixture we realize two things one
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we're making very effective smoke bombs
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but that making black powder was harder
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than just mixing three ingredients black
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powder is essentially three ingredients
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but it's you know just mix them in like
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rough quantities and start with a wooden
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spoon and then yeah black powder
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I mean there's not that many ingredients
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to make coke but you got another right
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mix together i know the right things
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right and so we had all these different
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black powder mixtures that we've been
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working on and they all turned out to be
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like basically smoke they made smoke
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they make they made acrid smoke and then
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we realized you know what they sell
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black powder at the fred meyer because
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we live in alaska and it's 1983 and
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people still are hunting with black
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powder muskets up here what it was a
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ok it was a thing guys that should come
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to portland just what he's got
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hey guys were hunting with muskets still
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local whores with with the blender butts
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and so you could go to the fred meyer
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and for like five dollars by a can of
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smokeless powder and it wasn't even
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behind the counter it was just out in
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the aisles
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Wow and there were multiple times Merlin
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I swear to you in the mid-eighties where
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I would as a fifteen-year-old walk up to
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the checkout counter at a friend Meyer
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with three cans of black powder five
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lengths of of lead pipe and no no now
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yeah and they would go to did king did
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teenagers seat
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yeah dude would you like your receipt
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sir that the total comes to 2497 and I
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would walk out with a bag of what could
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only be bombs that ended up getting
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expelled put it put on double-secret
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emergency prep suspension from school
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how they found in your locker room and
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lock the practice school brought it to
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school and told the teacher about it
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because I was so proud of myself that I
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was making and selling pipe bombs and
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and he was deeply disappointed he was
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very disappointed in me but we were
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using these bombs to blow to you know we
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were going out and and and blowing
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things up and we were doing very
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whimsically um but because you are a
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highschool person a you do not have any
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judgment whatsoever that we had no sense
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that what we were doing was any
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different then I accept that it was
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cooler than what any other kids were
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doing you know or that this was like the
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this was just normal i don't know normal
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i don't know that i stopped messing
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around with pipe bombs when I was we
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were pulling away from a party one time
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and we had gone to a party in a
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different high school and they were
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anyone and they were like it was a lame
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party and they were jerks to us and we
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we climbed in my car and we were leaving
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this party and my my friend who have
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worse judgment than I did open the glove
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compartment of my car and there was a
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pipe bomb in there and we had figured
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out that if you went to the if you if
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you went to the the gun store if you
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didn't buy your black powder at fred
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meyer if you went to the gun store where
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the guys were actually selling
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blunderbusses
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that they also sold can infuse literal
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like fuse for your homemade cannon and
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so we bought we bought 50 feet of this
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cannon fuse and we stopped using the
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solar igniters from from model rockets
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to electrically ignite our pipe bombs
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and we just stuck fuse and them and
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started making basically pythons you
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could live with a lighter and I had one
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of these in my glove compartment and
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this buddy of mine as we're leaving this
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party just pull it out lights it and
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throws it out the window like like an
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anarchist like he made like almost like
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one little bowling ball things you like
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lip balm and threw it he lit a little
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bomb that I that I had in in the the
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wisdom of my youth that I had in the
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glove compartment of my car in case I
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needed it and he found it and had a
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lighter because we were smoking pot
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Hitler is and he was like i'll check it
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out these guys at this party are
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assholes
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he lit it and threw it out the window
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into the front yard of the house where
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there were 350 kids at this party and as
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a teenager I did the only thing that you
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could do which was a slam on the gas and
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I'm screaming at him
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what the fuck did you just do and I'm
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repealing out getting out of this
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neighborhood and I and in my mind I'm
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seeing that I've seen these bombs go off
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and i know that this is a yard full of
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kids this is a house full of kids
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this bomb is going to go off its gonna
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break every window in that house and it
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is going to hurt somebody
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it is going to kill somebody and I'm
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like I've never felt a dread like i did
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as i am driving away from this isn't
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peeling out away from this place and the
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and the guy next to me is like haha well
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fuck those guys
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and we get to the end of the block and
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i'm waiting for
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I'm waiting for the ground to shake
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because these things are these pipelines
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we were making were like real bombs and
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nothing happens and when they I mean not
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inside a lot about this one explodes
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going to be the equivalent of shrapnel
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he's gonna be Bassam metal hot metal
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flying through the air at hundreds of
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miles per hour
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let's strap and all that that I mean we
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we we tested one of these I mean we we
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tested these things it all over and they
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get that the the LED goes right through
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a car like like just peppers it and I'm
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sitting I'm sitting at the end of the
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block waiting to hear this explosion and
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and wondering like running down the
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scenarios running down basically running
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down me being brought in front of a
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courtroom and being asked to explain why
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I killed these kids and nothing happens
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and I wait a couple of minutes and i
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know how you know that I know how long
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the fuse was and I mean nothing happens
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so i turn the car around and we very
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slowly drive past this party and then
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everything is just part is just going on
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and out in the middle of the yard is
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this dud pipe bomb that didn't go off
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and and i'm looking at it i'm thinking
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what is my responsibility here I don't
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want to run and grab this thing it could
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go off at any moment I don't want to
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stop and get out of the car and yell
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bomb i don't want i want to be a half an
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hour ago and have this not happen I mean
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but also is there some part of you at
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first my first thought sickly enough was
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now it's evidence it's not a bomb now
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it's it's evidence got your fingerprints
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well except now it's just
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nine out of ten people are going to look
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at and say what's this guy like what's
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this length of pipe like it doesn't it
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doesn't
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if you are in the pipe bomb making
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business it doesn't read as a bomb it
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just reads like why did somebody put two
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end caps on a short length of pipe and
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it just sits there it sits there
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throbbing in the lawn and my friends
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like let's get out of here it's a dud
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and you know there's a lot of those
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things were duds
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there's a lot of reasons why it would
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have been done it was not a surprise but
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I you know I kind of parked down the
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block and watch the front yard of this
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party not knowing what to do and she and
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continuing to choose wrong which is to
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sit there and watch it rather than go
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like run in there and say everybody out
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and it never went off and eventually I
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was like let's just you know put it put
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the car in reverse and like slowly
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backed away and went on with our lives
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but picturing how different my life
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would be if that bomb had gone off and i
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had and i don't mean to make that
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equivalent to the to those kids at
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Columbine who actively went into their
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school and shot a bunch of people but
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when that when the Columbine thing
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happened I i was able to put myself in
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their shoes pretty pretty easily because
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I could identify with those with the
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feelings that they had had and I mean I
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was a full full grown adult but i
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remembered i remember feeling that way
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and i remembered thinking that I was
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pretty that was pretty cool and it was
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obvious those Columbine kids thought
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they were very cool and they went in and
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they killed a bunch of their their
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friends because they were teenagers and
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teenagers are stupid so you really don't
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have that you don't have the wiring I
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mean it's just not it's just not there i
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mean there are some people
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who may be out of my case may be out of
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fear or the desire to be liked with you
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know quote-unquote do the right thing
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but you know it's it's like I don't know
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like transubstantiation or something I
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mean it was maybe something where I'm
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like doing it because I believe that
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there's this thing but i didn't i was i
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was very rarely a good person
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so just because of some sense of ethics
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are doing the right thing
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it was all the thought processes
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processes that went into almost
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everything i did at that age where were
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really even when I thought they were
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good we're really twisted yeah i don't
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think i don't think most people i mean i
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think there's some serious neurology
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behind this but I think you just don't
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have the wiring at that age and in fact
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it's my understanding that when you are
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13 or 14 especially i mean it's it's
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pretty bad i mean i think the basic
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wiring of a teenage boy that age is
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pretty close to psychopathy
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well that's why I just in the sense of
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like not really having any sense of like
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what this means to the rest of the world
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right that's why the most dangerous the
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most dangerous people on city streets
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are teenage gang bangers if you see a
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twenty-five-year-old thug he is so much
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more like a reasonable person but if you
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see a group of 15 year old gangsters
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those those kids have no there they have
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no limits and and you know they are they
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don't believe that that their actions
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have consequences
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that's why they're you know that's why
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they're great soldiers but but the the
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the the worst citizens
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yeah I don't know I feel like that I
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feel like this trail building a plan is
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is a solution like if I had if I had
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spent my junior high years building
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trail route rather than sitting in
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school making pipe on that don't work
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and learn and learn about the many
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artistic uses of whiteout
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I would have been a I would have been a
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better teenager would have been a
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healthier fifteen-year-old if I had done
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some hard work when I was 12 years old
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and I don't I I really I feel like that
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I feel like that we we have a they're
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starting to be a groundswell behind
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supertrain moment completely unaware of
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this really what are we doing really
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where we're a little bit like Kelly
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except you know without the coat where
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were kind of writing a prescription for
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ourselves
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retro actively don't believe in time
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travel but I'm just saying I i suspect
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you don't but not talk to me about time
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travel ok I i think i think that's part
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of it i think that i think that when we
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do almost anything as adults were in
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some ways trying to compensate for
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something or younger
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yeah i agree but we need to start
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figuring out we need to start
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implementing phase one of the supertrain
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I mean I guess we have been implementing
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phase 1i think when it's time to start
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this thing starts actually moving on
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move beyond the whisper campaign
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yeah i think people are ready and I and
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I and I feel like the longer we no
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longer we wait the longer we wait the
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more you know the more the a million
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voices are screaming out at once
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supertrain SEI who don't have time to go
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into this because i think there's the I
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i would like to see it in as much as
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you're comfortable just even seeing that
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the anyone see the pages of the plan i
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try to see the size of the plan just
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roughly because I made some of it is
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documented somewhere on some some
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cocktail napkins or pieces of plank or
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something then but I mean do you see
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it's something says it's written in
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white out so it's a it's it's it's a
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much bigger document that needs to be
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that's so undignified it's going to
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write on your right in your duster make
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on your way would you call your world
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war one jacket yeah yeah well one trench
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yeah it's one thing yeah jacket dusters
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dusters I want to see a duster I just
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that's man that's why ceilings IC
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testers you see doctors teachers that
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well that's the thing dusters are the
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customers are the official coat of the
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software engineer who didn't get the
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memo like the duster and the and the
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Australian looking cowboy hat
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yeah yeah the truck the troubling part
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is that the the memo has been delivered
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it's just he hasn't been checking that
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mailbox haha memo has been delivered
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often at least weekly for some time now
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and it's just a little behind on the
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newsletter
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yeah so especially when you see a guy in
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that hand duster getting off the bus or
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you know and or or waiting likes waiting
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downtown out in line at a coffee cart
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and you're like listen you are dressed
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you are dressed as somebody who should
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be riding a camel
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it's good yeah you are seriously you are
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dressed for a post-apocalyptic Campbell
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battle you're waiting in line at a copy
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