00:00:00 ◼ ► hey John I Merlin has gone that's early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/0">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► mm you have a busy morning it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► mm-hmm I'm sorry we're starting earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/19">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► than usual which by which i mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/24">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► yeah well I I feel like there's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► bit of mission creep and we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/31">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► getting earlier and earlier we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► to be recording this podcast at seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► mm I don't wanna hurt the evergreen long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/38">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► live nature of our programs i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► it'll be helping people potentially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/44">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► yeah but first of all we always record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/46">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► at 10am on Wednesdays and less traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► with the the retinue but I think we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► to officially move to 1035 that helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/57">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► 1035 you are you on the west coast right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► now come on the west coast so it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► like 7-10 35 on the west coast feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► like seven it really goes I just reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/70">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► the hunter s thompson used to wake up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/72">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► 3pm haha and then he did just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/73">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► cocaine up it was at to use your phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/80">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► that I picked up here I think he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/83">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► gacked out on cocaine for a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► yeah you know I have considered I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► considered a lot of different speedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► remedies to my to my problem of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/93">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► wanting to wake up but all the they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/96">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► contribute to my problem of not wanting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/99">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► halcyon he would have a house key on am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► mmm i wish i could find a healthy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► this is a term I know you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/107">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► technologist but i think this is a term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► you're familiar with time-shifting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► i'm giving your 27 our natural day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► yeah you know this you know how there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► some places like really squirrely places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► that don't observe the time child right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/121">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► yeah like little carries an Arizona or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► something but don't don't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/126">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► yeah it just seems to me that given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► decisions that you made your life your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► career and your natural clock i dont see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/133">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► there is no reason that you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/135">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► our day yeah mirana you get the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► yeah I gotta go to the bank and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► the the the thing that confuses me is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► not the is not the the little time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► pockets in the world but there are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► know I have a pretty good natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► compass I I can always tell you where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► the where the you-know-what the cardinal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► directions are absolutely you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/160">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► you're like a bird of prey you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/161">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► like a non-magnetic your necklace or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► something yeah right but there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► couple of places in the world where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► an inner inner compass is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/171">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► hm the city of Budapest is like this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/179">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► does not matter to me how I arrived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► Budapest I I feel like it is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/186">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► city is rotated on the on the space-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/191">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► but not like even like bring 90 degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► it might be rotated like 17 degrees like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► just enough to really screw up it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► 70 degrees when it's right it's rotated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► 70 degrees so so i don't thing is i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/207">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► mhm so you're moving mostly east at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► point I was and so I knew with way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/215">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► slowing in here you're still going east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► did I knew and I want and I had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/221">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► there before and experienced this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/224">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► problem of like wait a minute what no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/225">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► that can't possibly be North I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/230">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► in my bones and then it's like no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► afraid it is that is north and I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/237">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► I'm i walked into this city and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► thinking this will solve this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► for me this has been a problem for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► yeah yeah we got a point of reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► yeah now i'm walking in I have real i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► have europe at my back I'm gonna walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► into the city and I swear to you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► walked around the corner in it in a city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/257">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► street and all of a sudden it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/260">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► backwards that list i mean that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► when Spiderman liz is spider spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► really what it's like and I I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► whole time the things i love the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► the whole time I'm there I I enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► very much but there is something there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► something there's it it's like a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/280">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► those images of Einstein Ian a fabric of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/284">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► non-euclidean city it's yeah it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► it there's a gravity sink there there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► like a little it's like a it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► whole on a putt-putt golf course and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► is but there's also a twist and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► like it's like somebody it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► somebody put dog poop in a bag and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► twisted it because Budapest is not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► could not describe it as dog pooping a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► that is how i feel i feel like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► mind just a bit i got i feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► it isn't the city rhyme poop in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► analogy the best is the bag again nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► blames the bag up there are no bad dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► but so so knowing that that exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► knowing that that place is there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► knowing that that most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► experience it because most people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► have a very accurate inner compass and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/333">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► then it causes me to wonder about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► everything then it's like well if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► if that can be true then what else can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► be true it's so much about this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/344">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► add up and I have to be honest I've my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/346">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► file card for Hungary is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/348">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► goulash and the Gabor sisters right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/350">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► that's pretty much the extent of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► balitaan oh that all not down with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► phonetically like I have so many is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► already have so many questions for you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► Allah that I don't want to get your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/367">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► with this but I in the same census with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► the actually Peter Parker but but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► that same sense you are made with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► active mind and it seems to me that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► the time you're enjoying this city there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► must be some small part of you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► still wondering what the heck is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► on and you think it might be the soil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/383">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► oh no it's something d it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► much deeper than that it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► because I don't know what I I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► don't know why my sense of the cardinal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► directions is so strong but it has saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► my ass a million times and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/399">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► seem to be that it's not like I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► from microwaves well as far as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► as far as i know but it doesn't get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► Sun do they get the Sun in hungry cuz my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► other centers of my sense of canning is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► is the opposite of years i mean i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/415">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► lost on market street because there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► diagonal they have the Sun there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► also you know one of the one of the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/423">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► things about Budapest is that one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► is a hill and one side is flat like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► theres a river that runs down the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► the river runs dude south through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► town and one-sided is a big hill and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/438">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► geographical compass already in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/442">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► yeah so there is there's an awful lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► letter there are a lot of physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► features it's not like it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► rambling a like a mess of a city it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/449">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► incredibly ordered gridded say with life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► features they basically have a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/457">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► basically have a sign on one side that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/460">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► says this is east this is east town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/461">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► yet I can't get my head around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/466">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► because it doesn't it doesn't square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► with how I because doesn't square with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► directions are you go to somewhere like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► London or Boston have been the line i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► been to London for like five hours but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► but yeah boss is a subtle myself most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/480">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► it I i found a place that had it so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► i don't smoke the day I found a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► have cigars and i went to a station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► yesterday i use the loo you see Bobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/489">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► wasabi he had he had a torch and a lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► and with or yeah well so shining glory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/495">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► listen I've been to London a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/499">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► times you saw all the good stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► that an Olympic Stadium doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► like really much to look at but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/505">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► now it's obviously for me do you get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► have two problems here well I ever i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► cannot set aside genetics you can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► I think you're unwise to set aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► genetics but I was that the times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► time when I had to acquaint myself with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► directions especially when I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/519">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► driving with Florida where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/520">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► everywhere I've lived in Florida was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► oriented around in north-south artery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► you know what I mean like the US 19 US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► 41 but there's always it and almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► examine highways right they just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► north and south florida is just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► it's just a north-south dongle for he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/538">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► just a dongle that's being I said dongle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► it's a turkey waddle you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/545">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► like to quit the simpsons but but Homer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► everyone prefers to Florida as america's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► wang yeah but no I think that's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► it for me is I'm always trying to orient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/559">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► myself to like the large body of water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► is over there right to the West in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► case and so I mean so for me seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► somewhere like San Francisco where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► know as you know market street is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/571">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► actually almost a perfect diagonal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► then the streets that go around they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► totally confusing some of the names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► intersections where there's like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► roads coming together and i find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► but you have no problem with that i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► we get anyway the times you've been here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► which i always enjoy we get in your van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/589">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► confidence that you will get where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► you're going to take you take a step and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► you always know what the next step is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► well X and the thing about San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► is in that city was laid out by miners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/604">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► miners and trappers and i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/608">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► what they did is they tied it tighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► length of string to the belt loop of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/614">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► like 50 drunk guys and just send them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/617">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► all out from them from it's got this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/619">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► currently go it will call you market but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/623">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► uh but but it in something in a city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► like San Francisco I kind of I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► know what it is I kind of just look up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/634">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► at the sky and nowhere is this is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/635">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► discovered the sign that my sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► direction got so much better because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/640">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► good age were you when you discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► the Sun i think i discovered the sun at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► a point when I had to discover the son I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/646">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► never paid much attention to the Sun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/649">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► then at some point i was informed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/651">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► it generally speaking rises in the east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► and sets in the west and that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► two things that I have going for me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► life literally our number one I almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► i I don't know anybody's name I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/665">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► your written down here on a card but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► that and i have an extraordinary sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► usually down to no more than five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► minutes and you know that's not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/674">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► it's like I I know what time it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► my wife will see what time is it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► will go 678 618 now i'm almost always so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/682">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► so let me tell you how that helps once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/688">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► discovered the Sun i was able to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/690">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► that because it is the morning and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► sun's over there that's kind of it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► of eats it just seems to me that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► would you would just see that you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/699">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► your shadow like like a great roiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/700">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► groundhog and you would know where I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► don't wanna be labor this but this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/706">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► product this is the this is the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► with living on the earth one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► problems living in there like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► instance if you're in Malibu California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► fly your you are conscious of the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/715">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► that the pacific ocean is it is to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► West and America's to your East because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/722">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► you are on the pacific ocean right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► that's how we think of the world I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/726">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► see it from my house but I Mallory days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► Malibu's in this weird little uh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/730">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► just weird little beard it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► like a little beard on california for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► his b crickets where we're not there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► less Hollywood the ocean is no longer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► the west of malibu the ocean is to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► south of malibu malibu points south and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► east that's completely unacceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► so when you're in Malibu and the sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► comes up you think oh my god the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/756">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► the Sun is rising in the north or what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► mean you cannot you cannot reckon with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► it because you eat your mind is so used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► to thinking of the Pacific Ocean always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► to the west always to the west right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► really when you stand in Malibu and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► out at the ocean you're looking south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► looking toward the Galapagos that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/777">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► I get the Turtles tortoises that's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► that's where the tourists come from so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/784">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► it's so it's so this and this is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► this is true portland oregon tui if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► get accustomed to thinking that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► river in portland oregon runs east-west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/791">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► north-south can't really screw up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/796">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► yeah why would you think that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/799">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► portland you get really baked yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/803">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► yeah and now i'm given to believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/806">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► Portland is it's very flat no one's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/809">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► another city like Budapest there's Hills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► on one side and flat on the other hand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► river in the middle locally-sourced me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► to the north to the north of Portland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► afternoon I know where this food trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/825">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► yeah portland i just spent oh it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► y-yeah I i went down to the oregon coast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► and rented a house what and i sat in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► house and heard nothing about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► well this is the thing I keep keep my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/842">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► the thing about the thing about ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► announcing to the world that you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► the Oregon coast is people can find you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► there they can they can they can explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► your home so even i mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► certain kinds of information that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► are comfortable releasing retro actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► but your movements your movements in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► something that's a need-to-know basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/866">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► particularly when I'm going somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/869">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► for to experience a kind of like lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/871">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► mm I don't want that interview no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/877">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► don't want somebody like a DJ offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► proof fuck time up 13 she wear trousers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► rolled I did but when walking I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/884">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► walking down the key to teach I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/888">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► have each you know yet you encounter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► people who are you are out on the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► in the in the dawn light and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► they have to read dogs sometimes i black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► dog and then you want to meet those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► people on even footing beach footing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/905">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► don't want to be out there and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/909">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► with two red dogs goes super train em [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/910">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► and that if I told people I was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► yeah butBut so I go to the oregon coast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► and my expectation is it's the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/920">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► January it's going to be a constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/924">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► like shitty was dark cold wind swept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/927">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► rainy week where I'm gonna sit in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► little shingled house and I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► shiver and stoke the fire and have lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/941">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► of deep thoughts and steam and I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/945">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► steam and instead I get down there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/948">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► it's the sunniest week on record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/950">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► Wow and I mean cold it's january but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► it's it's just beautiful sounds bracing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► it was it was great and you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► so every day I go and I i start i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/961">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► i'm going to take a quick walk on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► beach and then I go and I walk for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► and a half hours up and down the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► and I did not have as many deep thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/969">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► but one of the one of the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► takeaways was that the oregon coast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► me is one of these places that I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► everyone in the world should everyone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/985">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► the world it's not that everyone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/989">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► world should experience it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► everyone in the world should have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► to it it's such a perfect place that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/993">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► almost can't believe that that it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/998">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► part of everyone's lands everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► mental landscape because you know though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► the the state of Oregon the law there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► that there is no private beach all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► beaches are public so you can walk from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► the top of Oregon to the bottom if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► can forward the rivers and and the beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► is just what at the beaches are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► shallow so when the tide goes out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► can walk out onto the mudflats seemingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► I don't know it's just a it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► a it's a place that's always in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► imagination and we used to go there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► so I just got back from there some a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► little dream a little like spaced out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► I'm him and it doesn't the things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► doesn't like Portland somehow but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► back in the old days portland and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► oregon coast were kind of a symbiotic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► was like the people on the Oregon coast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► were largely from Portland and Portland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► was this little logging town and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► all felt like a kind of a weird I 11 but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► now portland is throbbing with this food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► truck energy and people with the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► know with sink stoppers in their ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► and and the oregon coast is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► eternal it's it's just it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► so the two things now the feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► there's a disconnect between Portland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► and that and the beach but you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► stayed mostly close to the shingles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► yeah there's a little house that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► that's basically in the sand dunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► that's I mean you as a slingshot from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► the water and I camp out there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► are i mean in as much as you can say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► can cut this out but as much as you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► say you were you are ready for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► sabbatical I guess a week ago all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► took to just go away and and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► thinking this is going to be a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► get a change of scenery and you you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► aside the worries of the day and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► deep thoughts can flow like the shallot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► I'd that was your thinking going into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► yeah but I know that you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► that you have a lot of feelings on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► topics about like the deep thoughts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► how they flow and I'm i'm beginning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► end beginning to question whether there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► is any retreat that causes the deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► thoughts to flow or whether the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► I Merlin I keep looking for the secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► the to unlock my work and it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► make me want to make the kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► that I think I should be making and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► is a weird thing because I make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► all the time but i have so i have i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► a list of things i think i should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► making right and I can't I couldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► less interested in most of the time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► making those things and so I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► thinking I'm gonna find this key it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► going to unlock the box where the these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► things that I think I should be making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► our and they're going to pour out of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► like they used to like when I was young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► and I didn't think I should be making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► those things I just did them and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► gonna read I'm gonna find that again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► so like I every time i go on tour every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► time I have a a an interesting moment or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► a fun night i come back and i sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► in my chair and I go I'm not I'm fired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► I'm gonna do this stuff that i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► think i ought to do and then you I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► I just don't put kind of life drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► trains out of me so I went to the oregon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► coast thinking I was gonna it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► talk to God in the form of the rhythm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► his waves and you know i love the waves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► i stared out Adam maybe even talk to God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► a little bit but it'sit's that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► came back in and ported poured into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► anything actually well that's not true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► wrote a long article about how punk-rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► sucks but that's nobody wants that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► nobody's that would have everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► nobody's interested in it that's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► what about hard to open jars something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► will be addressing hard to open jars i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► don't find any way hard candy so costly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► now I don't find the funds that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► find the jars hard to open a hug I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► get invited 10 people by trousers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► fit with what is that you have to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► laughs when I say box i don't mean punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► I mean I mean punk rock well now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► ya know punk rock music you know my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► contention about punk rock music is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► not a thing that they like it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► yeah good good punk rock music is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► good rock music that's true and listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► listen if you listen to the clash or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► yeah if you listen you listen to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► you know like axe or wire us into those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► bands you go these are just or talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► heads you just listen it's like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► following a bloated area bloated era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► bloated era that I happen to really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► but it was there is certainly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► they're on a continuum from the kinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► well on a continuum from eddie cochran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► ok it's just rock and the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► legitimately called punk rock which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► like self-conscious art music where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► like Yoko Ono screaming over some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► instrumentation and you know that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► that's that's neither pump more rockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► punk rock music is just rock music punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► rock as a philosophy is the thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► even in 1976 when the garbage is piling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► up on the streets and there's no jobs no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► is a really good is a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► documentary on joy division i I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► alex cox movie about you know seditious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► and stuff like that yeah you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► geographica nightmarish but but i saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► this really cool documentary on joy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► Winterbottom maybe and heated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► fiction film anyhow I real Warner bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► yet Michael Winterbottom from the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► bottom brothers but now but but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► got from showing this kind of archival [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► footage of what it was like to live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► I mean it was so blighted and everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► was living in where they called council [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► flats plastic just these awful the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► looks like something stolen we come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► with a name and a bad night and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► was a time when I don't know why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► one really struck in my stuck in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► but I guess there's a strike as you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► in England and the garbage piled up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► yeah and it was it was blighted it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► really blighted in you know you listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► to i don't know how i feel about the sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► pistols I you know I think they're quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► as good as people say they are but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► mean no future in the future I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► mm you think they're better than X yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► okay but the thing is that better is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► that was the only goes an atom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► animus alongside things like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► Genesis and queen this is the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► which I disagree with you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► that was an animus but the the blight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► northern England also produced black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► sabbath which is one of the great one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► the great rock experiences a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► the thing about punk rock philosophy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► reason that I think it is bullshit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► and I say that even acknowledging that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► punk rock as a like as a corner of youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► culture was very important to people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► have a lot of friends who claim that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► punk rock the culture saved their lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► and it was the family that they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► have and it was and it was a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► they were all there maybe they felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► well yeah and and I a man that thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► that you could people say that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► thing about Scientology you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► place where your fashion questions your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► music questions your political questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► and your social questions are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► oh its stock triangle and your it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► absolutely is nur 14 years old and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► you walk into this you walk into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► meeting hall and you're like oh my god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► finally i'm home and i understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► that is that has a powerful emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► effect on people and even though a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► of these people now are 45 and 50 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► they cannot they cannot look at punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► rock with it with a clear I but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► philosophy as us as a social philosophy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► is it is intrinsically negative it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► and tie reactionary and it is reaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► exactly and then anyway fascist but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► it does not have it is not pro anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► it is anti-everything it lets you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► what it is supposed to it never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► it's like a fourteen-year-old boy island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► is what hates all he knows what hates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► and then and that has and that has four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► certainly you're in my generation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► mentality we because punk rock was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► cool because that was because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► that was where a lot of the that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► genesis point of a lot of the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► we liked and particularly and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► mean anytime you're you're in a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► a mind-control posture if you can attach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► it to a good rock music you got half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► people right there where they don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► have to think about what it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► that's why that's why christians are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► interested in making rock music now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► know it's a great way to get inside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► people's heads and get them before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► they're really thinking critically so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► all through the eighties and nineties we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► has a generation internalised this punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► rock critical eye which was which all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► could say was that sucks that sucks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► sucks that sucks it at it never espoused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► like its own concept of beauty and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► think personally I know what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► want really punk rock songs right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► is anything when like when yr on yr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► things outdoor minor which is a gorgeous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► based on almost a ballad or or when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1674">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► you know something from london calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► from almost every spring because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► start things but from from like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► restoring like proto power anthem almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► well now Green Day is basically his pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► is basically making music like ELO like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► the Buzzcocks with press releases its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► come all the way it's come full circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► but but again leaving the music side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► just talking about the talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► punk rock as us as a social phenomenon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► of fashion movement a way of criticizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► culture which you know which it deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► profoundly is punk rock draws a line on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► everything is it punk or is it not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► and you know and that's where that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► where indie-rock got the concept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► selling out was the ugliest thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► could do you know that whole business of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► can't like what with Johnny Rotten think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► exactly and death cab for cutie we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► asking themselves that question what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► would Johnny Rotten think I mean through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► through the through of three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► filters i mean they weren't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► thinking about trying rotten but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► know a sunny day real estate wouldn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► interviews right on their first record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► builders belen Sebastian wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► photographed unless every single person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► like nine people in the band were all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► the photo right and Eddie Vetter drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► across America you know uninsulated ford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► van while his bandmates flew from show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► to show in their own private 747 keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► her because he was keeping it real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► via mike watt via John Iran be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► and so we all have been carrying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► around in us everybody our generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► and I think everybody from 30 to 50 this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► idea everything every time we make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► something we look at it and go punk or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► Oh God not punk enough garbage can I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► comin around comin around okay so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► know so anyway so ultimately I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► and the reason I'm saying this now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► generation that is finally throwing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► in the garbage which is this this newest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► generation 20 to 25 year-olds who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► now and they you know I think they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► at their cultural patrimony and they see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► a bunch of like whiny millionaires and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► they see the last the last vestiges of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► that kind of pitchfork II like a sellout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► is rights that this is hack the my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► that are 22 or like you know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► seems like that's how old people put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► end up the end up starting if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► allowed to happen yourself and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► certainly happened to me is you end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► starting whatever you call career with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► certain amount of cultural baggage right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► about what the previous generation would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► think which is not so different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► going to eatin right exactly absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► and the the kids now I think are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► like fuck it right and they they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► take the they take a little bit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► sneer but none of the self criticism and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► they just want to dance and they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► being kids again and they seem like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► oh my god and praise be to God that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► lightheartedly and right you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► look at Lena denim or done Homer over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► that girl is that's making girls and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► their this generation is there just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► smart as we ever were but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► having a they're having a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► more fun because they aren't when she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► doing something more profound and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► likely to endure in some ways yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► because they're not because they aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► self-censoring based on up like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► fundamental principle that if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► negativity then you are part of the ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► part of the capitalists oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► larki right you've got me you got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► thinking about this and there's certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► ok so I mean I personally never have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► thought the germs were all that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► they kind of phoned it in think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► what's enduring about like Agent Orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► mm I mean that's so many armies now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► it'sit's that what is that that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► like the the ventures with spit right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► haha but here's what's interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► wondering about it i mean we take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► something to be taken away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► color stuff to think about this think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► about how much of of the enduring legacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► that made bands like your previous bands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► you know it's you might have inspired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► you think about you know a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► some of it is cultural I mean you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► never you're very unlikely in context to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► ever get weirder than screamin jay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► hawkins hawkins nobody's ever going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► be that weird just given like what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► absolutely but think about this think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► about the the real and again I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► certainly guilty of the have geography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► here for every one of these but number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► understand what independent music meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► in the mid to late seventies because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► Buzzcocks very few people have been as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► independent as the Buzzcocks they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► practically press the records they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► their own covers like they almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► single-handedly invented independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► well that ends up being a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► decision because there was not there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► not a forum or maybe a former for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► promoting them but there weren't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► many people out there who are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► invest in them and they really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► literally do it themselves like say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► you will about the emek I it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► thing is we remember we remember discord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► for their like we won't play a show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► cost more than seven dollars will ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► again what they did was a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► decision they created a sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► business by being lean and by and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► supporting artists that they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► believed in and they all we all live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► the in the aftermath of that like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► created that and we met and that is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► I don't that's why there's a bar sook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► that's where there's a bar soap that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► absolutely smitten and the final and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► again this is going to be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► hydrographic I'm ready get can be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► about this but you know I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► in some ways extremely true which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► SST bands including especially people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► like black flag they worked really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► and only autos hard as Rollins makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► sound yeah I don't mean at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► I mean I'd I only saw the Minutemen once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► and I saw the band after that a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► times but I mean I really believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► my quad is it is a pretty hard-working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► guy but the thing is they got in a van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► because of the community that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► develop they were able to blaze a trail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► that people are still driving their van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► down till this day but what game what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► that it's business and its work all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► enduring things in all this where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► who actually decided to be dedicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► doing the work which is not nearly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► same thing as starting out going like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► want you know I want safety pins in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► jacket or whatever ya want to work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► and then that that's absolutely true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► it is the it is the lack of ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► acknowledge that it is a business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► decision that all of those groups that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► you just mentioned I mean all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► innovations really you could write up an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► article for Fast Company about each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► of those characters like a startup that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► works there let's start up the works but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► the but it like threaded through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► organizations was a rejection and denial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► that business was a was what they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► doing this is at least not big business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► they want they wanted to have enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► put gas in the van but that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► they were not proud of it and that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► you read that Rollins book for he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► talking about he's talking about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► there's this cognitive disconnect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► because on one page she's like so we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► to chicago we sold out the metro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► there was a line around the block man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► right i was riding in the back of a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► truck from shows to show from chose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► shows and I was peeing in a mason jar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► and and when you have sold out the metro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► or played the metro you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► even if you're only charging five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► dollars ahead to sell out the metro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► to have money you are earning money at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► this point it is a it is a bit of a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► venue and you're in your posting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► uh well you're boosting your ego but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► more than that you have arrived at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► place where you do not need to go from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► show to show in the back of a box truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► so if you're doing it you are doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► you are doing it intentionally you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► you are choosing it's like shoes and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► impossible thing of choosing to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► the proletariat yeah Rollins is either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► lying which I which partly I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► true or he is self mythologizing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► moment right he's waking up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► morning in the morning and there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► there is a tour manager or there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► somebody standing there with an envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► full of cash and they are they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► pretending it's not there and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► continuing to 2a you know to pee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► jars and live at the end roll from show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► to show in a 50-gallon drum because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► because to get your own hotel room is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► bullshit you know and I got picked up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► the airport one time by Bob Weston and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► big black yea big black and he picked me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► up at the airport in be big black van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► and it is afford band that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► exactly like you imagine the Minutemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► toward in it is the van that the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► black torrent and it's a 75 you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► 78 read for bandwidth no paneling so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► it's just the you know it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► sheet metal and there are no seats in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► the van there's like there's like a a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► loveseat that somebody drags like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► sitting in steve albini guitar if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► like that it's like it's like a stakeout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► metallic and uncomfortable it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► sitting in a chair that you bet somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► made out of steve albini earwax and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► know and and the thing has 350,000 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► on it and it's got backstage passes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► Stowe's you know but but not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► haphazardly stuck on the walls and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► like hey man sorry I could you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► had to get the truck running and here we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► go but we're all and and it was great it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► was super cool to be in this this BAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► but you know Bob Weston was first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► engineer on in utero right right Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► Weston is a significant get points on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► well he got paid for it right okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► he got a credit on honor but she got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► and.and that and if you look at Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► Weston cv and i don't mean to throw him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► under the bus he's a wonderful man but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► he is you know part and parcel of of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► entire culture up that that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► descends from punk rock which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► this and the thing is if there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► winking acknowledgement of like yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► mean isn't this band great like I this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► is this is a piece of living history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► link is like he has no traffic Conestoga [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► wagon but i think i can do is i suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► i could afford something a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► yeah if any of us for the last 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► were able to still look to wink and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► yeah i know i could be driving a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► car but I drive this because i know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► cool it's a it's a it is part of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► and its and I know that picking you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► at the airport in this van is impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► to you and it's like it's like an A&R [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► guy with yeah let's all sit here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► like and just like just like give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► ourselves a little bit of of crotch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► let's just gently stroke ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► knowing that we're in big black band and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► Mike watch shot near once but in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► but in fact for the last 25 years we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► we have not let's be honest we if if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► think that there has been that element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► misremembering it because Bob Weston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► pick me up in that van with the pretense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► that that was his car and that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► he could afford and that was how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► kept it you know and and and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► that's been true of everything we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► done as a as a youth culture that's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► moved into middle age where it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► like oh yeah sorry man I couldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► know I would've been here earlier but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► had to i was out getting frizzy and fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► yeah i was working at the needle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► exchange and it's just like wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► fucking minute no you weren't and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► at some one thing is when I look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► kids now i see they have taken all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► that David they've adopted the fashion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► they've taken the taking the fun parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► and it's why it that's why they they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► a little bit incomprehensible to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► because it's like with wait a minute why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► you don't get to have fun you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► one is it's not so different from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► being 46 in choosing to wear a shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► with a comic book character on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► I i have i have the means i know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► oh yeah I am but it's partly nostalgic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► is partly something I feel like I'm is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► but you know you said something about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► being being middle-aged and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► can't be overlooked I mean you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► you're younger you sure have more energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► can put up with more you were creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► memories that you will someday be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► nostalgic about but you know think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► how many of those bands again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► going back to a time when you let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► you start I can't think of a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► manner of the bus costs to come to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► I mean a lot of that was you didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► nobody came in right with the suitcase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► full of money but when you had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► opportunity i mean joy division became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► new order and new order became huge and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► the thing is you might have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► signed to mute or you might have gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► signed to i mean you know i am was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► independent label for a pretty long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► and you know and and thank God they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► out the police you know what I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► became a major on trying to say though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► is that when you do for lack of a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► word grow up a little bit you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► think about something like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► what if I really care about what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► making a I'm gonna need the means to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► that for a living and not have to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► at haagen dazs and then be when you no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► longer have to work at Hadassah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► that's all just kind of put on you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► to realize the extent to which you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► white kid who could drive around in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► band and and draw a crowd this is an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► argument but if you ask most African [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► American people who are living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► poverty they would love to have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► even that freedom to get in a van and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► drive around a heartbeat but they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► they got stuff to do their work in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► factory sorry sorry about punk rock here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► but that's really true you know a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► of mine always used to say you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► choose to join the proletariat because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► you still implicitly have the net of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► being a white man who can walk anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► and and you know it but you're you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► making the arguments that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► punk-rock mentality like we at with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► idea that we even need to explain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► we are that it's okay to enjoy success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► is we we we've been doing our whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► lives so that we feel we feel like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► we forget that it is a technology and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► feel like punk rock came punk rock came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► up not just in the blighted a like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2636">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► shit scape of Manchester and to a lesser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► extent los angeles in the late seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► but also not to just always be hammering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► on this but in in the Cold War you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► during a time when it seemed like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► wasn't just that the rich people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► they are now the rich people just seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► like they're greedy they're stealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► they are they're just sucking bone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► there they are they're ugly their course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► but but but we forget that 35 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► 40 years ago those people also we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► perceive them i guess maybe mostly we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► perceive them as having their finger on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► the red button that was going to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► was going to annihilate all of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► like they were part they were part of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► perceived and probably true that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► were part of a system that elected the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► people who are keeping is really close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► to the football game opened right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► that paranoia i couldn't i could see and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► understand why why initially punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► had this we're anti-everything mentality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► because to join that world at all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► even to go so far as to like eat a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► contributing not just to a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► there were rich people who got to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► swimming pools but you are contributing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► to a bankrupt a morally bankrupt world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► that was teetering on the edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► so there wasn't a way to participate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► where you were complicit and so punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► rock was anti everything so you have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► had to make something that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► you had to know you were you eat it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► the only moral choice but that has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► yeah you know and so up so that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► the reality is looking back punk rock's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► response to the Cold War really when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► broke it down when you really read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► scenes was just a garbled mix of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► like revolutionary marxism and I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► was it was nothing new it was just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► was just the dregs of a of a you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► a city college education like sandanista [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► really do you know what the Sandinistas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► not a great record and it's and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► they are and the Sandinistas sucked you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► know and to put to put to wave that flag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► was just was was to was to exhibit how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► little you knew and how how mute and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► impotent your response to it really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► like punk rock did not smash the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► it did not end the Cold War punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► did not save us from from basically 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► years of Imperial Bush family punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► did not do shit except you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► when it when it turned into grunge when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► punk rock made that transition into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► grunge it continue to not do shit we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► not even defeat ticketmaster like all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► did all it did is what you're describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► which is it started an alternate model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► for financing music and culture addy at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► the DIY right concept is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► positive product aside from the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► but philosophically DIY is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► thing that came up in weight and without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► we're going with that we're going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► you know to whatever china but we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► discovered was the maps are reliable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► haha right and here are my intention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► unintended consequences that you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► out with this this ethos and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► don't say it's freaky things I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► there but I mean you start out with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► easy thing you're young you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► I mean we were there what what did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► get when we just wanted we join that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► culture 1980 yeah i mean i-i everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► and this is this is you know another old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► man point but also everything so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► the things that we get to enjoy even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► started when i was there were filtered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► already you know two or three times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► through you know I let's put it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► I i would not have discovered a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► that music without your community radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► but also like independent record record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► stores and a lot of times it was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► easy to go buy a copy of never mind the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► bollocks at you know record bar it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► independent record stores were thing not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► because they were response to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► corporate record world independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► record stores were just a business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► they were closed and it was a specialty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► yeah and that what we're discovering now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► what I'm seeing now is that DIY is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► finally divorced from the idea that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► is against business and DIY is just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► a business model and taking it away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► this idea that DIY is against business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► you don't have young bands were like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► don't do interviews we don't want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► filthy lucre it's just the house say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► everything I've got sand facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► yeah that's right if you what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► know about good thanks what they had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► it's like fuck fuck wait a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► it never was DIY was never a like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► alternative to business it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► form of business like if you put out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► record is because you want people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► hear it you want them to essentially to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► to buy it otherwise you would press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► those records in and giving them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► but but you know here's the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► is it I don't you tell me this is BS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► on the punk rock is if nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► extremely subconscious force excuse me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► you are yes you as we stipulated you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► actively reacting to something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► mostly in a negative way but I mean I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► never going on about people like to shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► or whatever but like there's always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► a self-consciousness and art but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► produce something of enduring value with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► that self-consciousness if you're--if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► Casso is reacting saison we came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► some pretty good stuff and figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► how to make a living out of it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► you've got you've got to create more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► than just a poorly written manifesto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► right and and the thing is Picasso [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► rejected the artists that come before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► him but and and poured a brilliant new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► he said with the abbot you look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► about it he didn't just go there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► what he didn't do was say I no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► represented by a dealer in Paris my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► artwork should be free you know Picasso [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► used the same dealers that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► for animals proud to use the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► dealers that is that the guys that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► before him did it was punk rock was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► first real thing that said we reject the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► we reject commerce because commerce has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► produced the bomb and or so or or the or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► the class system or its responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► hunger or like any ill you can find you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► can strap on to this quote-unquote big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► absolutely and if you if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► collect eighties punk-rock azines like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► do and read the screens in there there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► is no liberal cause that punk rock won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► attach itself to read and i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► don't mean liberal because punk-rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► ultimately really extremely conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► was a libertarian philosophy like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► Anarchy with the big a in a circle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► hit you using it'sit's gun gun nuts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► leather jacket basically you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► why should I have to do that right why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► should we do but did not as awesome me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► you're not the boss of me it is a bratty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► teen age philosophy that is you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► of course promulgated mostly by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► people with PT Cruisers but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► I'd I swear to you the people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► reading iron Rand in 1984 were all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► mean either the drummer of rush or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► this this like this subset this the but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► the kind of the place where ponytails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► and punk rock meet if it is thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► is it is anarchy / libertarianism right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► so anyway I I feel hopeful for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► future but I really feel like we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► look back as a as a people and I'm talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► about our generation in particular look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► back and say wait a minute this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► bullshit the whole time we did not need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► or not maybe not the whole time but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► inherited a thing that we did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► understand we adopted we adopted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► this mentality that for things to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► good they had to prove they weren't shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► and that you know that that money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► business were intrinsically inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► immoral and it was and it was garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► and it handicapped but it also but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► know how you're talking about people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► would think you're weird best thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► about how would with Johnny Rotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► approve this you also as creative as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► might have thought you were you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► clear progenitor progenitor that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► self-consciousness might lead you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► know to to make this something with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► certain drum beating do you recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► that that's actually a jumpy from noi or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► whatever you know that there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► there's this when you say like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► the would like doctrinal conservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► somebody I don't know what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► feelings on Captain Beefheart i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► like Captain Beefheart and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► guys to be generous and he don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► he's certainly probably self-conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► in his way he was definitely insane he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► wouldn't wear headphones in the studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► but to me that's something really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► knew like what when that came out i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► the new york dolls were like rolling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► stones and dresses i should do this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► a living I'm pretty good shows you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► good at it but I mean again you you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► back to something like screamin Jay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► Hawkins I don't know one thing him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► particular but but like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► people who would really produce Charlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► Parker or you know somebody who went out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► there and really I mean Charlie Parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► was playing and and dizzy gillespie were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► playing in you know the contemporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► like big bands the time during the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► and like reinventing what we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► about music certainly with projectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► but like their response was not to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► screw you're just gonna play this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► play this faster like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► rebooted the whole idea of jazz and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► lot of guys they made something new that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► in its way we came to realize was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► beautiful it was at the time callaway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► called a Chinese music nor ping pong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► but like we came to realize that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► know that was something substantially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► new and we need to we need to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► separate all of the amazing artwork that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► got made under the rubric of punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► from the from what is the the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► I'm not bored I'm bored I'm I I get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► you're saying yes because it was your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► favorite punk rock then the sex pistols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► really yeah because that's that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► is that that has antecedence in in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► the kind of rock and roll that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► really love in some ways the sex pistols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► are not really that different from ac/dc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► and a lot of ways the sex pistols and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► the romantics if you put blindfolds on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► like people from outer space if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► you blindfolded my pillows and played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► them the sex pistols in the romantics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► right people i think the pillows would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► say I don't know the guy from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► romantics is kinda got a pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► little Lisp the Sex Pistols guys a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► little bit creamier but they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► they're both amazing i mean let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► let's say my favorite cool punk band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► because that because most people can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► their heads around the fact that the sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► pistols are even are even a punk band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► anymore but I'm my favorite cool punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► band is the bad brands and the Bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► Brains in spite of the fact that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► I got a pretty bad i think we got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► really bad attitude that their records [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► already hard to work the records don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► really sound good like they're you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► them on and you're like oh god I wish I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► could rerecord this even using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► technology that the head of it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► that smart that's me and his crew to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► I don't know how they let that spot guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► anywhere near a favor and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► absolutely true blue skidoo' and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► it's true a lot of those r.i.p listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► it now anyway not to go back if we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► go back in time and rerecord those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► records the world would be a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► place and that is one thing about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► Sex Pistols record that it sounds it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► solid gold sounding it sounds like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► freaking abba record it's recorded so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► well and you you put that side to side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► with the Bad Brains record which was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► know one of those was made by ric ocasek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► that's i'm selling their in a men's room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► yeah it sounds like it was recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► through one headphone speaker but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► guys are putting together so much music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► out of out of like a grab bag of nuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► and bowls and the and the overlay of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► like I mean what i don't like about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► clashes that they are a white reggae [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► band what I love about the Bad Brains is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► that they are fucking reggae band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► there's they are doing shit that nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► did that nobody has done before sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► and it's not like any aspect of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► new but they put it together in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► that it still inspires me right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► know and I was not able I was never a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► Fugazi person i did not make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► I mean I i like that i like i like Minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► Threat a lot and there are a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► Fugazi songs are familiar with that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► thought- that was really really good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► I've seen I never saw them live but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► seen some of their videos of their live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► stuff and man they were some working men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► on CH and everything is I love those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► early Black Flag records love them early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► early early early Black Flag record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► everything before they weren't allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► you're talking about this continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► talking like old-school 33 Rollins yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► and I used to go see all I mean I I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► punk-rock years suicidal tendencies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► loved it but by the time it turned into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► bad religion by the time you know by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► time Circle Jerks turned into bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► religion i didn't think that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► first punk rock show was when circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► jerk that turned into bed religion I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► think that literally 1986 my first do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► I went to circle jerk show i was totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► terrified by the skanking and it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► like clothes cigarettes and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► things people seen in magazines up mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► know it really is true you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► seem like your guys like you talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► this guy's you walk around the sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► stoppers acting like the real tough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► they're in their dirty clothes but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► know that's that's still a reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► what you've seen other people do and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► three years they will address in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► years they won't dress like that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► because they they are following a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► certain snaps on punk rock they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:56 ◼ ► following a certain kind of fashion from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3596">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► any 32 1987 if I came out of a concert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► I I felt like it was a shit was the shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► one ng because no I mean it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► wasn't all my blood I mean it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► you that he took the bitches act it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► wasn't that we were all taking each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► other out i mean i was just interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► but it was in a spirit of you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► have each other up and stuff yeah get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► the middle and and and you did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► would you do that shit out of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► haha oh my god was so scared that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► oh my god I wanted and I thrived on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► beat you know hit me hard hit me hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► were allowed it was encouraged and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► then if somebody fell you didn't pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► them up and I mean one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► traumatic experiences I ever had was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► an all show a guy jumped up this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► know staged over and it she just went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► into a hole my god said and he was he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► was out cold and you know the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► stopped we all stopped we help this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► got this guy into an ambulance and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► show started up again like that so punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► rock it was great but but but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► that transition Circle Jerks into bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► religion I stopped believing that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► was a thing called punk rock anymore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► just--can i mean i didn't i looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► around and i was like what this is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► don't even know what this is and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► that was the last moment that it had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► relevance because then it was all then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► the next generation was all punk rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► through through punk rock through punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► rock it was it was it was for I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► because of course being 21 is like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► 87 in punk rock years by the time it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► the time we got to 1990 was like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► we're taking our music from these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► from aberdeen washington now is that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► far out we have to buy better names like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► the raincoats to find some monkeys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► still have a little bit of life in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► ok these were pulling these ding-dongs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► out of trees now and they're making and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► grudges well that's what we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► that's what we're going to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► grunge like we talked about notnot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► enduring oh yeah i've fallen so far this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► is not even this is just not this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► something else and you know i got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► music because i was watching the grunge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► bands i came to Seattle and wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► in a band you know when I was playing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► was playing jingle jangle REM tom petty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► Rock because to me it's stuff that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► where it seemed like we were headed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► that was where the good music was coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► from and I show up in this town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► they're all these swamp monsters they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► order a Jagermeister and get a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3762">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► touch it and they're playing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► really what sounded to me at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► like retro music what about meeting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► started with a meaningless genre like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► how can you put Mudhoney and the melvins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► and Nirvana and Pearl Jam in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► genre it just doesn't make a lick of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► well it's just the same as punk rock if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► it's good it's rock and roll if it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► it's grunge and the and Camille and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► djed the sub pop 20-year anniversary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► Wow several years ago and we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► collation out he's now the head of late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► he's at a level that's right a British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► label head but he and I were at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► turntables and we went to all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► friends and of course the bill owned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► record store right he had some resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► and I had some stuff and we collected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► all the like iconic grunge vinyl that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► could find and then Anna and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► mean like really any of the major label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► stuff but this was this was all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► bands that were really making the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► 89 threw 93 and we sat at linda's which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► did not at the time of a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► stereo system which was appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3835">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► automatically aesthetically appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► and we played this vinyl and we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► you know one of us would pull a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► out and the other one would go oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► I never heard a cap but did you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► that up oh that was real health proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► dude hell trout get that shit on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► and we would queue up this record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► we'd be like this is going to blow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► people's minds that we have because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► room was full of people that were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► and they're waiting for green river yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► and feel like is sitting right in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► of us you know he and fabric feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► even came with some records like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► everybody was so excited and then uq [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► this shit up and here comes through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► speakers and within and everybody goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► yeah and then within a minute we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► looking at our fingernails because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► sucks like so that like it's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► it's bad they recorded its badly played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► it's badly written most of that music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► was just bad and that's true of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► music scene anywhere but but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► good pans the good grunge bands you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► heard of there's no there was no secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► stash of like oh yeah you've never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► of these guys but they're gonna they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► gonna kill you you know i mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► a couple there were a couple but but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► the most part that stuff was just it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► like it was like a pair of converse that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► ok did you ever read have you read any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► contemporary reviews of early Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► Sabbath records there they are a riot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► for for so long I mean you know i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► saying everything except it was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► fantastic but i'm going to say that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► well at least the first six years first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► just six years yeah there's that 179 275 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► as well yeah there's that was that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3952">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► Ozzy record that sounds like Sloan but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► um but you know how they're always quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► oh yeah it will this is this one song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► that basically takes a was set and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► you know the one I mean it's like AG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► ACDC longer you know the one I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► oh not the gas masks that one on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► cover but it was last night he record is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► pretty he was pretty gone at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► but but it's funny cuz neck like today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:19 ◼ ► especially like I happen to really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3979">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► the melvins and I think they're grazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► their incredible ok alright cool I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► cool but but I that you know I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► unlike you I'm given to believe i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► not sit around and get super duper high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► list them i'm kinda regret that but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► that's a honey pot like I guess this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► of their hits but I mean like that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► it's so great but like you would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► have had a Melvin this message is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► definitely I think one of those bands is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► what you're describing which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► it's cool to like The Melvins but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► were really good and then I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► they're ever would have been in Melvin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► without a black sabbath not at all no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► chance I mean that may sound like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► patently obvious but it's fine if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► criticisms but nobody like Black Sabbath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► they were like this is ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► it's the same way I make the joke about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► Mike Anthony which is you know a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► but like they're like this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► especially the bass and drum parts you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► know because the bass and drum parts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► people who are used to hearing Ginger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► Baker like it was but it was no no don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► yeah right yeah well picture I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► picture sabbah in 71 they were they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► so weird and so dangerous was there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► dumber looking I mean they looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► that if you saw them on if you saw Ozzy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► in a bar you would sit as far away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► him as you could he was the deal was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► big the archetypal dumb white northerner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► you know he just looks done it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► fringe he's just looking at it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► looks like the type of guys he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► like the type of guy that's gonna throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► a pint glass over shortly he's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► is a guy has never made a good decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► in his whole life his whole life Eric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► haircuts tattoos he has down the last he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► has ozzie tattooed on his knuckles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► finally probably isn't helping remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► 69 or whatever like right that was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► thing he did later that was that was his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► first statement to the world like raw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► Omaha Omaha like even in 1980 I fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► there is exists far as I know there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► exactly one video that I've seen of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► crazy train in what looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► cable-access studio and I guess he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► pretty dried out mostly at this point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► pretty tried out around but it is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► lady was fixing amount yeah but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► and of course randy rhoads is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► another planet but Ozzie even in 1980 he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► still looks like he has no idea what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► do on stage it looks around and he walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► around and he claps claps he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► nervous and request repeatedly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► yeah stomps stomps is one foot and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► walks over and then stomps his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► foot maybe he looks like an autistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► electrician he holds his hand up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► then he remembers that that's the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► that he's holding the microphone haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► he's like a rotten robbie singing i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► i did i ever tell you she came to West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► High School yeah he tells a story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► this is a clock this is a classically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► they went to the I he went to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► high school right the other school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:36 ◼ ► Randy Rhoads was in the band betrayed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4176">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► was in my orange orange pants they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► simulcasting from the vantage still so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► brokenhearted and that of course I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► told you I told you my my my REM the DB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► story yeah that's terrible Jefferson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► like that point I Jefferson fuck stained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► with night ranger opening that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► said fuck spain now that's an ox lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► punk-rock name haha Sabbath bloody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► Sabbath was a good record and I wish it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► had been produced different and real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► I don't have the drumsticks here but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► you know what Allah especially in arcade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► to extend that need arises better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► like actually I i'm not a giant Robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► Chris calfan by any stretch even talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► about self involved but his review of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► Zen arcade is is really funny says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► something like something like it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► a such activity here Bob blues guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► gathering dust between the amp and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► haha that's how i feel about every type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► of Sabbath bloody Sabbath and what could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► be a on the face of it a stupid or song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► a stupid or baseline it's like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► it like like e BB flat a something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► it's something ridiculous like Bob blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► blah but it's so good and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► sorry talk about music but the breakdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► I love tennis that's probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► favorite black sabbath song the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► record sabotage is where it starts to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► off the rails and then after that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► gets a little bit of what about having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► how you're always talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► your family like heaven hell right i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► I think heaven and hell I was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► food you and I almost argue about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► whether that's the best pound-for-pound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► Black Sabbath record which is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► not i no see there's that's on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► the thing that reality is the best black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► sabbath record that's one sweet leaf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► yes but wow you know the first the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► time Eric course and audition for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► I've told this story where he shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► with a five-state he showed up with a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► denotes a base and I said how did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► learn the song so we'll have an acoustic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► guitar that's five strings on it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► said okay great that's and became knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► this one with rose and he showed up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► so I i we had a base there i had it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► like a base bench and I gave him two I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► gave him two songs to learn and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► played them flawlessly and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► that was pretty cool why don't you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► home learn the rest of the record come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► back in a week or two and we'll rehearse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► again he was like oh I mean I noted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► learned other solutions and began how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► had already learned i'm like when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► learn the other songs you've only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► the record for two days and he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► information he proceeds to play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► entire outer entire first long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► can I on the base and you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► never played a pic didn't have a base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► when he learned and he learned on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► guitar and I'm like okay kid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► having never played a base until you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► you must have appreciated i did and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► was like you know that's that's ok you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► know that'll do pig and then we started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► just like we're we're we're kind of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► don't know what to do next we played all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► the songs a couple of times through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► then we start I just I I think I'd i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► just picked out sweet leaf on the guitar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► and the band kind of picks up the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► was they were simple enough chords that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► that a sports John Nelson and Chris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► camellia could manage to find something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:13 ◼ ► to do on their respective keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4393">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► Schilling are our former drummer was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► big Sabbath fan so we start rocking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► and courses just rocking the baseline of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► sweetly obviously not that hard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► that's where you really shine Ringo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► Ringo is parts were not always crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► yeah and so he and showing for mislikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► apathy backbone and I'm like this kid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► incredible i mean he he looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► somebody's dirty pile of laundry like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► looks he looks like a free pile at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► yeah but it looks like yeah this haircut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► looks like they came from the bars lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► yeah but he is nailing this and we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► to the end of it and I'm like wow dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► you know kid you've got the job Sabbath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► fan you learned all the records here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► you learned about the long winters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► record and you know any you know Sabbath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► your you've got the gig and he looks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► me he goes Moses said and I said yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► sweetleaf we did the whole song like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► we did the whole time he was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► yeah just displaying alone he just he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► just intuitive it's because really it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► intuitive what they're going to do next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► but he didn't he what did not know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► that's what we were playing he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► played it I stares at the moment that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► would always enjoy and i suspect i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► know i doubt you enjoyed as much as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► did and matter because it wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► sound checks it was I get some no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► soundcheck but sometimes completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► apropos of nothing as you know Eric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► nabeel would suddenly burst into like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► perfect note-for-note spirit of heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► yeah they would do it three shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► something particularly in Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► sometimes when what I when going doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► that when I would talk too long and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► be like listen here's the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► Denmark do you want to know the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► with Denmark i'm gonna break it down for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► it was like the spirit of radio and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► ok now we're rush rush for a minute they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► would bring you out it was was not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► know when you're younger you do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► silly things and laws by 1819 just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► to just after high school and in my gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► year and I I was hanging out with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► ex-girlfriend and my pal and we stayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► up all night just being stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► probably taken vibrant and we were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► at the same time with only got no you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► we should try to clearwater beach for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► the sunrise and so we can see where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► is going we literally got into his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► car and drove you know 45 minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► clear water and it was just gorgeous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► watching the Sun come up behind our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► backs because we have forgotten that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► were on the west coast of florida up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► I don't know I die tomorrow I would 51 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► man-boy i could put down some fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:22 ◼ ► before i discovered a federation took it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4582">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► yeah you know I discovered reading that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► Bob move that biography I knew I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► firsthand about you know the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► about them but i always assumed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► they were you know taking like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► the dream I thought the I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► they were taking I had always hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► day they took a lot of speed land speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► record is called that for a reason not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► great record but in my opinion but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► you know I had always heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► especially bob was taken a lot of speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► turns out turns out trucker speed he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► popping ephedrine just like me boom punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► i look at that you are punk rock oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► god I knew that all along but now that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► doctor ticket it to another level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► yeah but you dr. feelgood got done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► little stands late watch me show you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► review good could you do me like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► to feel good when i talk about a shitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► band something but then things got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► Simpson said around that guy playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► 100 guitar riffs all in a row even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► the eighties any through in like 4 a-4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► uh Motley Crue tunes in a row 10 or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► couple of nights at least a couple in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► row and then he came back to them later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► and it was like dude you're is that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► she's that's what she chose to highlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► you chose to do like four bars of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► cream song and then you did like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► formerly croissants yeah but if that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► it that was you're a tease then I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► and my crew is like the perfect thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► now I i should do this for a living I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► really should you should you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► you should have a podcast where somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► just names an album who and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► for that Stacy look we just try a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► guide 23 just shoot me want to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► uh the guess who um no I Wow Stan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► guess who that was that the baby and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► uh well no that was so yeah I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► bachmann from bachman-turner overdrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► yeah and we like Randy Randy Bachman he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► left the he left the guess who because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► he said they just wanted to party and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► they didn't want to work I was listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► to American woman the other day which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► a tune that is that has entered into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► so it seems like they're on the devil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► horns it's really it's yes absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► but i was listening to it on a on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► you know sometimes you you're listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► to a tune on an unfamiliar stereo and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► you hear the mix differently and I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► two things really profoundly one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► most of the track the band is really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► in sync at all it's a it's that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► that era of like good enough it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► floppy a little bit but the river but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► like nobody's really tight with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► other but those those drum breaks down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► and are now to pop down and nap you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► the room in those in the emptiness is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► arrested man shut the fuck up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► minute yeah and you hear you here like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► it the squeak of his of his kick pedal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► and-and-and I was suddenly drawn back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► into the tune because it was no longer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► it was no longer like a cliché that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► made it unlistenable I was hearing the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► was hearing the early seventies late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► sixties recording technology i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► hearing these guys write this classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► tune in there and you bring it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► studio like let's do this one and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► fun again like it was it was fun to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► it was like listening to those beetles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► mixes where you're like oh my god when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► you can hear the carpet Russell there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► was a it was it i mean if you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► something new and interesting to hear in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► American woman i will put in with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► but it was there but I Steppenwolf I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► went through a heavy Steppenwolf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► phase-in in the it right about that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► when I was trying to figure out maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► Jethro Tull's my band this I and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► I decided no I for one day I was driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► around super baked in my car with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► friend Peter no sack and we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► listening to Jethro Tull because Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► had this really like unusual music taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► his favorite band was the talking heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► but he also loved the doors and he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► show up sometimes in like Jethro Tull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► what do you think about this and put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► you know put the tape in and we drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► around and I was a baked and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► a throat all yes why have I not given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► Jethro Tull is my new band at last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► listen this business into this flu and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► then you know it lasted about a day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► then the next day I heard that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► but I went through a Steppenwolf phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► at that same time and actually saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► Steppenwolf least their son john k and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► stepping johnk Steppenwolf right I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► them on their first reunion tour this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► would have been 86 probably they played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► they played a bar in Anchorage called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► the grand central station and we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► went and it was cool and amazing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► you think about it john kay was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► 39 or something you know like 1986 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► he probably was 35 we were like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► guy's really old he's coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► retirement and and we listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► Steppenwolf all that summer and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► drinking party music like psychedelic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► party music so I was Proust up a woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► and that stuff actually if you was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► deep deep Steppenwolf Steppenwolf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► Steppenwolf i don't know i didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► step of a deep cuts that you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► funds are very rarely if you sit down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► there you drive into the valley into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► yeah it's not like listening to be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► the flipside of inner got a video where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► they have three or four songs and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► like okay it's like listening to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► know i have like four copies of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► I don't know how I don't I mean I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► how I have one but I don't know how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► have to excuse you occasionally throw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► I think it's because some at one point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► wanted to have four turntables all four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► copies going at once just for copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► inner got to beat it all started like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► experiment right we should do that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► should do that in a parking garage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► I'm going to pick up my kid I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► god dammit i love music I know you do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► should do with music podcast I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► we filter it in like Hitler through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► Roderick on the line but you could do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► music podcast that blew people's minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► as long as you know it wasn't about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► if I had named any banned from 1976 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► you could have gone off like a rocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► oh yeah I mean I i really like any band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► 68 or any like you know what I i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► like the idea I I don't love that word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► mean but she should always say like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► but um I'm always liked the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► trying to generate this like what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► like there was a fake wikipedia page 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► years about this fake war like I am sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► about that wikipedia pages set for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► yeah I made it past the editors for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► years but i always liked the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► catchphrase that literally meant nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► my hell yeah I am my friend Marla in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► college was was trying to get us all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► start using didn't tale isn't something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► that you would carry water in and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► the the way using a minute that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► pale so pale that it's bucket and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► started really liking it and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► use it man that's that's a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► percent bucket and I think we should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► that with the guess who I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► should get people to to to really feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► like now lets everyone to todd rundgren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► produce them right the guess who think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► a lot but I i bet you're right no hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► he's got crazy hair nowadays run grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► here you know XTC came around on skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:17 ◼ ► setting that you know they were pissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5117">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► as hell they felt they feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► got Phil Spector by him to get let it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► where like they had skylarking and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► a bunch of really good songs and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► did all that business he like was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► that business with kind of putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► all together into like a song cycle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► on and departures was pissed when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► apparently now they come around they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► really black sabbath their way into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► liking it now which I think it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► good on any Partridge do it on any part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► i'm super glad to hear it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► think that's a great record fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► yeah I like oranges and lemons too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► like i like them I like them a panic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► attacks on stage and the stage fright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:05 ◼ ► I don't ever tell you about the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5165">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► no um I was in my day I want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► I think your picture 1976 opposing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► didn't even sniffing blue pacific blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► and eating automobile tires for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:27 ◼ ► days I was not in a good place i was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5187">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► Reading Festival and I was in bath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► england which is down the train line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► from reading is pulling out silly i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► in i was in pok pok mark on meat pie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► I had gone there because my my mother's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► maiden name is pretty and there's a town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► in the mendip hills of England called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► pretty and I hitchhiked there to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► this little town which is really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► like it's just a maypole and a bar and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► church in a cemetery and send like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► ok so i went to pretty and and is I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► know I had a beer in the bar and i slept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► slept overnight in some guys Volkswagen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► in a in a car park and then the next day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► I was like I'm not hitchhiking back out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► of this place there's no one here took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► me all day to hitchhike down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► so what did i do no no I got a guy a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► in a mini drove me back to bath and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► was going to take the train to London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► but it was the Reading Festival and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► didn't know about it at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► IM at the baths transportation I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► there with a bunch of salary men like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► like the English guys with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► umbrellas and and a bowler hats waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► for the train and I looked down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► partridge and it's just me a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► lumber shoots and then andy partridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► and andy partridge isn't his eyes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► darting around with the train platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► is fidgeting and nervous and looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► everywhere to see if anybody recognizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► him and I'm behind like these guys in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► in suits and I'm way down the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► and i'm watching him and he's looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► around he's looking to the left is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► looking to the right look like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► think he's something that's something he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► doesn't want something he definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► he's like he's like please nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► recognized me please nobody recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► me and he's looking but he can't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► looking around like if you just let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► just saturday sat down invention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► open a newspaper he would have been fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► he looks like a nearsighted but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► he's very easy to pick out of a crowd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► yeah he was killed was extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► conspicuous but nobody was recognizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► him because it was just a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► normals and he's looking around looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► around and I'm low i'm watching him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► then he looks over and he sees me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► looking at him and he snaps front like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► like now he's staring across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► opposite train platform pretending that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► he didn't just see me yeah and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► looking at him now and he is like dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► and then he looks over and i'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► looking at him and he turns and runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► haha I giving any party's ever run well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► I mean like muscles it off the train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► platform and out of the station like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► idea to him at the time 1986 the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► him i guess this was 80 this woman later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► this was 88 the idea of sharing a train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► with somebody who had because I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► have been in a different car when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► only Dale that was it just failed he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► i think it looked to me at the time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► was experimenting with maybe i'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► the train and he got that far and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► like nope can't do it and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► what I mean he must have gone and hailed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEO_fAe0/5406">TS</a>]