00:00:05 ◼ ► hello hi John Merlin has gone good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► just have some mouth noises to make here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/12">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► it's the season it's the mouth noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/19">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► I i do you know when I was when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/27">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► me neither hated it yeah hated it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/33">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► then somehow somewhere along the line I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► got I got to my sister and my sister in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► particular is a real water sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► pusher and and somewhere along the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► I got I got a taste for it and now I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/46">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► probably drink a half gallon of it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/48">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► just every time I walk past the sink I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► i choked up big glass water food and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► i've been i love it i can get enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/59">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► that's pretty much exactly my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/62">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► two things one of my palate developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► from just wanting a 12 pack of coke a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/68">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► day on and the other thing is they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► wow that's what you're really out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/73">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► yeah go ahead go ahead I'm listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/75">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► let's see I think it's that I had other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/79">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► lip-smacking know here's a cover sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► get an sm57 on that red leather chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/86">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► i'll put up on mature my get in the do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/89">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► chris wallace get a room mic with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/93">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► trigger so you get that kind of David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/94">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► Bowie low thing when it's a real when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/96">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► it's real dinger archers both make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/98">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► well I'm a very have you ever seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/104">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► photograph of my chair i'm not sure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/107">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► read all the magazines even remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/111">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► yeah let's get the cat is it stained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/115">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► it's hard to tell but at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/117">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► it's like to get out like the industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► carpeting you have in parts of a bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► where it becomes one kind of contiguous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► stained like one hypnotic stain yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► yeah so the high-traffic areas of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► chair are sort of more stain the low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► chap driving Eric yeah yeah I used as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► blue mechanics paper towels share the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► surf so kind of fell apart at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► point and I fixed it with the I made my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/146">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► own plywood it's not homemade Flyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/151">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► yeah i took some unique I think you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► that well I didn't either until I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► but I i drilled a hole where the where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► the thing had broken where the dowel had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/164">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► broken so I drilled a larger hole and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► then I took a bunch of wood chips at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/169">TS</a>]
00:02:52 ◼ ► that you don't like match sticks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/172">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► stuff and I'm i crunch them all up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/174">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► then I i poured a bunch of glue on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► and i made a kind of matchstick and glue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► amount them and then I i put it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/183">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► hole let it dry it's so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► accomplished than you give yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► then I drill the old a new hole through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► the glue and through the fake plywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► I'll tell you what you made my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/203">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► you have made our casino particleboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/204">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► particle particle board on my sense is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► based on a conversation we had your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/212">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► mom's house a few weeks ago that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► not a fan of why I'm gonna get you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► plywood for certain things but don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► have a certain respect for a nice long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/220">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► mm my sense was that you had you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► serious respect for the pores in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► solid wood longwood would well we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/231">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► haven't had like 20 minutes on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► yeah i've got all these all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/238">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► abominations in your neighborhood made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/239">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► of short short pointless would and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► you had continuous planks and yes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/242">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► is this is you know this is a component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/245">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► of what this is a theme that you and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► touched on a lot which is the be tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► down of a hundred-year-old thing made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► out of perfect old-growth lumber to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► replace it with something made out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► off-gassing particle board and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► posting a sign in the front saying all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/266">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► green construction man its new green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/270">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► insurance you and nothing about nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► about it is green tearing the tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/278">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► the perfectly good house down was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► green and manufacturing all the all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/283">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► chemical products that this house is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► constructed of was but that wasn't green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► and then building this new house wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/291">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► green there's nothing great about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► except that they installed an efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/294">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► furnace in the new building or some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/297">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► other they being are they put put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► photovoltaic panels on the roof and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/302">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► it's in and people people walk through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/305">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► life well i bought this really green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► condo and it's a gym no idea what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► there and what we have lost as a people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► what we have lost in terms of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► patrimony these houses that were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► know if you look at if you tear down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► tear the inside walls out of my mom's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/321">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► two-by-fours are 28 feet long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► there's not a knot hole in them there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/329">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► not even a Knothole there there from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► trees that stood that they cut the trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► but they built my mom's house out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► they cut them down from three blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/339">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► away and carted them there by horse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► milled them on on a sawmill you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/343">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► presumably powered by about probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/348">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► Mexicans know there are no mexicans here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► then it was probably the Chinese it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/354">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► putting well now there were Chinese but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/355">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► no but i think it was either powered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► horse or by would but by the by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/359">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► more green and looking for it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/364">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► right there everything you need is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► yeah and to tear it down i personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/368">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► think is a crime against all humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/371">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► and then to build a thing you know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► of these places that term off-gassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► who is a construction term but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/379">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► tries to describe how all of these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► a all the particle board and the Emmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► the wallboard and the most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/389">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► products that the the the new carpet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► all after the house is built and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/395">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► you move in it sits there and just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/397">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► of sort of permeates gather exist gasps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► that's yeah i mean any I mean now behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► the ones like the formaldehyde also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► things like I don't know if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► petroleum thing but things obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/410">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► well you know for example we buy we buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► a bath mat we like that we've bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/417">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► three times as its worn-out haha but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► wait a minute wait a minute what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/423">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► gonna do when they start making that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► back Matt I want to make one out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/425">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► Longwood are you going to be much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► than I Japanese don't work ping pong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► every time we buy one of these the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► thing happen to bring it home and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/434">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► it out of the plastic men it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/435">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► like a giant plastic vulva opening the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► entire house is enveloped in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► this smell and so we've got things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► to use going to vulva as a as a as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► metaphor is a plastic vulva I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► being a normative a plastic vomit tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/452">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► me where plastic level it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/455">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► taste like a 9-volt battery smell like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► anyway my point being I I just what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► worth I first of all I like to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► this because I completely agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/464">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► I think the green thing I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► get off on one of my jags here but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/468">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► think it depends a lot on which micro or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/469">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► macro level you want to look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/473">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► yeah from you know I mean you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/476">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► just to your point I mean I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/478">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► information to to intelligently agree or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► disagree with you but I i agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► being as an intelligent as i am right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► and something we can all agree on long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► way on that do well no but here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► thing I I mean the face that I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► you're saying makes complete sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► and this is why when you when you pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► back the lens just a little bit you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► well okay well there's also the vehicles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► that had to have gas in them to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/504">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► yeah and then the the cheeseburgers this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► mhm oh you know what the house that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► pretty good you know when you go when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► you go to someplace like you got a rural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► England and you go into somebody's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/518">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► that has a thatched roof and you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/521">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► tell me about your house and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/522">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► like this house was built in 1547 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► they show you around the the ceilings in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► the house or are about five foot two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/531">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► you have to duck everywhere you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/533">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► well they were certainly and and that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► thing a lot of canned food mmm perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► the floors are even you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► there ramshackle places and you go wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/546">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► this house you know this house really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/549">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► like it's such a wonderful treasure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► then you think about it and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► this house was just a bit this house is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► just the one that survived there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► anything special about it over over 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► years all the much better houses than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► this were all torn down or burned down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► and so this little thing half the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/570">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► it survived probably is that no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/574">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► cared enough about it to tear it down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/578">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► no one cared enough about that piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► property or or they just didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► ramshackle east on ya and so this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/586">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► survives and now we now has a plaque on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/588">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► celebrate it but in fact it is just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► just the it's just that like that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/596">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► the detritus all the beautiful houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/599">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► relationship I have with portland oregon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► portland oregon is a beautiful city full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► of bungalows and old architecture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► the reason that's true is that for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► last hundred years no one cared enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► about portland oregon there anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/615">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► down there build something new you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/616">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► it was a it was a backwater and a shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/618">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► Berg and you'd go down there and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► like oh yeah it's a house it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► bungalows and all of them have that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► moss on the eaves and you can tell every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► single bungalow in Portland has had four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/634">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► chain-smoking 20 years that yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► Portland had a yellow patina until until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► 2002 and who's gonna who's gonna find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► you know a renovation of hooker town if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► there wasn't if there wasn't that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► people as we talked about in previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/652">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► episode if there aren't the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/653">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► coming in with the with the Genesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/654">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► everything's going to sit there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► is ironic it's same thing happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► San Francisco where these houses that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► were in neighborhoods people didn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► about they would get those awful sixties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► and seventies renovations but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/668">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► select all the houses the hippies lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/672">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► in and have half-ruined superficially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► in the sixties and seventies are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► really expensive houses up1 try to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► house along the Panhandle that is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► of dough is it's a gorgeous victorian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/683">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► earthquake you know made it out and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/688">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► and and that's a funny thing about San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► Francisco is that you know now of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► today it's it's ludicrous it if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► to do anything to your house there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► yeah there's all kinds of the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► will sag well i just i see those bay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► windows beautiful ones actually in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/709">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► the western addition in particular I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► those beautiful curved pieces of glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► I just think that it must be so costly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► when you have to you know replace curved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/717">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► yeah it's insane well what happened here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► in Seattle was that we had the world's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► fair in 1963 and 64 huh where they built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/726">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► the space needle and they tore down a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/731">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► big to in order to build kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► seattle center they tore down a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/738">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► ramshackle neighborhood of flop houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► and stuff to build that but that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► that great of a loss but what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/747">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► was that was exactly the era that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► kind of the the the peak area of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/752">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► 23 story flat-roofed apartment building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► where the walkway was there the hallways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/762">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► architecture and what Seattle had was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► that we built this world's fair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► people were going to come from around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► the world for a whole year we were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► to have a million people a day here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► see the seattle center and so there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► this sweeping redevelopment of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/781">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► Victorian neighborhoods and they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/786">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► well here this whole dish house full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► you know full of transients even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/791">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► we're going to tear this down and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/797">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► gonna build a kind of motel style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► apartment building that will house these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► visitors from out of state and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► after those people go it'll be an it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► won't that be nice we'll have well we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► have replaced that dilapidated old house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► with a modern apartment building and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► throughout the city pretend the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► interesting neighborhoods we have you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/821">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► six-night 1963-64 motel style apartment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/826">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► just sandwiched in between them and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/832">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► 40 years later when a developer goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/838">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► into that neighborhood and says which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/842">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► one of these three things and i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► to buy and teardown they invariably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/845">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► choose the Victorian still you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► because who's going to tear down at nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► unit apartment building that right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► know they're still making money off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/858">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► that and so we still so Seattle looks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/859">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► lot worse than portland i have to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► because you walk down the street you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► just like there's no plan here there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► no nothing is governing our development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► except tear the thing down and you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► obviously you cannot count on the tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/877">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► of the people who own that property to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/880">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► have any interesting integrating our how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/883">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► yeah yeah and this brings a straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► back to I think one of our greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► threads which again this is for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► listeners something you acquainted me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► with a longer time goes there's a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► listeners is that heartless monster like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/899">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► architectural preservation got it got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/903">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► can I get when you talk about super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/905">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► train again beyond only the the you we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/906">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► had a conversation once i was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► that long ago before the program but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► for this program started but you you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► telling me about how you can learn so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► much from a city you know you're a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► who doesn't pick up a map to go to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► look around right at you but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/925">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► learn a lot just from looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► elevations in the city where is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► waterway oh this is where they put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► railroad tracks that explains why there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/933">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► are the kinds of things around here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/935">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► would be good for railroad industry and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► here's the waterways that's why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/940">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► probably stopped here is a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/941">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► Pittsburgh is where it is in case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► San Francisco for example when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► added the streetcars and whatever year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► that was that was the first time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► you could live in the highly developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/952">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► that you can live comfortably and highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► desirable neighborhoods that are at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► top of a very steep incline because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► suddenly and you know these are the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/961">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► before you just zip down to the safe way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/962">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► to pick up your groceries so having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► something like you know what we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/967">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► left it there the cable cars which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► very silly and not all that useful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► back then that was a revelation and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/972">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► generally living near the water in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► places you know if it's like an ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► water is more expensive living higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/981">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► rather than lower is a nice place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► live and so hey why is it that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► tornadoes always take out all the mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/988">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► home so because it's in the most shitty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► low-lying areas where no one want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► live the floods easily tomato tornado [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► yeah and I mean I think what's funny is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► like that that is you know even with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/999">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► the Internet economy I think that still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► means a lot you know and and to just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► don't know I can always come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► Tallahassee where I lived for 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► and Florida State University the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► buildings there are so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► the old and but they all are you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► tell when the place was initially built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► it's just beautiful classy like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► know the style of architecture is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► don't know the name for but it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► the eighteen hundreds i think in early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► nineteen hundreds so there's a burst of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► money at that time and they built the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► women's college of florida or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► it was called and then you can just tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► there were burst of influxes of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► probably old people dying wanting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► name on something and there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► hodgepodge of different buildings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► went up in fifties through the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► right all of them science building all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► of them like wildly different with only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► the most superficial nod start having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► any kind of continuity with how the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► of the place looks and and some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► have that I I'm trying to figure out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► i want to blame this one guy corbusier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► you have basically invented square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► cement buildings and and made made every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► you know mall and apartment buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► and skyscrapers look the same John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► why he loves these things well he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► going to be probably yell at us for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1078">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► thousand reasons about talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► Lucien but I was here Kordofan who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► ok but you know yeah you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► the bart station for example I every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► time there's a part station I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► it looks like something from Planet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► the Apes Logan's Run Logan's Run yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► yeah but everything you know and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► sorry not sure I'm going with this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► there's a funny confluence of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► nineteen sixties in particular I pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► there was so much money for things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► education building so much more by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► late sixties in there had been a metric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► is that correct to say that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► lot of new building and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► obviously you know after the GI Bill you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► people want to go to college and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► kids want to go to college was all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► building and is this like pseudo perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► storm of money wanting the desire to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► build a lot quickly and cheaply and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► influence of the square concrete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► buildings that are now everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► well there's where concrete buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► after the war were were honestly thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► there was a moral component to them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► people's imaginations like these were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► clean it with open they were not these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► you know sticking bone little rat holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► that a of you know victorian houses that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► 60 years old and full of dust and mice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► you know these were this was a these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► buildings represented to people at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► time the future we we had fought a war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► and we were we were going to build a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► world that look they're growing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► clean and they were modern and they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► not look like the kind of locations that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► you would see that had been bombed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► yeah these were exciting like american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► buildings and am airport terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► terminals and like exciting places for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► people and my mom talks about it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► time like the idea that you would have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► house where all the bedrooms were on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► same floor as the living room and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► kitchen was a radical notion and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► exciting one where you would open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► sliding glass door and step right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► your living room into the garden without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► there being a stair-step you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► these designs that we think of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► mid-century modern and and and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► you know like tract houses to their I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► all these little details were were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► incredible innovations and incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► like almost I mean definitely like moral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► technologies this is this is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► people should live we now have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► technology to live with ease in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► custom homes and it's and we're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► going back to this tube to the bay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► windows with the curved glass and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► this I don't look they don't look very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► space-age at a time when that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► modernity and that kind of with what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► called popular luxe style what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► coming and if you were going to go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► and you were mike brady and want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► interrupt water or an architect that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► wanted a cool-looking you know house you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► know you weren't going to make it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► chicago-style em right that'd be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► I was alone a chicago-style house but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► you know you look around you look around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► your city and you learn you can see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► you can see people's more moral tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► reflected in the in the physicality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► your town in a way that doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► require that much imagination like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► just have to see it you just have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► turn your eyes that way that Seattle has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► a neighborhood called wallingford which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► is perched on a on a long broad sloping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► hill that overlooks lake union which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► the lake at this very heart of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► and then across Lake Union there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► panoramic view of downtown queen anne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► hill and and capitol hill so it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► it's this beautiful neighborhood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► bungalows on this wide broad sloping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► hill overlooking a lake and the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► the city but when you go there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► realize very quickly that the streets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► the streets are a hundred percent wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► they are laid out so that the bungalows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► go so the long avenues actually go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► and down the hill right long avenues are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► pointed at the view and the houses there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► are there are 50,000 houses in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► neighborhood and almost none of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► have a view of this lake and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► panorama of the city they they look on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► each other's backyards and in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► get in order to get the view either have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► to go stand on the roof or you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► go out into the middle of the street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► look down the hill and for the longest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► and so when you're in wallingford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► there's something about it that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► kind of feels wrong you're conscious of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► the city being right there and of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► lake and you know every night these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► incredible sunsets but the neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► just kind of looks at itself and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► you realize that at the foot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► Hill is a thing we call gasworks Park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► which is this this gym in the crown of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► the city this beautiful park with an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► gasworks where they used to make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► the process natural gas there and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► neighborhood of wallingford that view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► down on the lake would have been a view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► over a chemical plant for food into into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► a lake that was full of steamships all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► you know there was nothing about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► view that view was something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► whoever was developing the neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► that view is something they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► because when the wind changed direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► all of wallingford was coated with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► layer of chemical ash and so for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► rest of eternity in seattle like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► cleaned up the city that that view right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► now is it is a 10 trillion dollar view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► but that neighborhood is always going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► be pointed the wrong direction because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► at the time of you didn't matter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► people what mattered was you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► you turn your back to the chemical plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► and you know that's so whenever I'm over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► there I'm always like kind of haunted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► the haunted by the century I guess so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► that the things the things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► are interested in the people could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► afford that people cared about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► people live with end up having an impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► long beyond the time that decision was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► yeah forever and ever i mean there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► were there redeveloping London all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► time and a lot of you know what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► tear something down in the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► that was there for 700 years to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► something new and my opinion you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► better really have a lot of faith that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► the thing you're building now is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► is better than something that survived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► seven hundred years and that isn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► know I don't think people think that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► and I don't down i don't remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► details of this so forgive me if I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► some of this wrong but I think it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► even them out before the earthquake here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► I think all i know is at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► somebody I don't think is Olmsted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► somebody had come up with a plan for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► city as it grew that was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► vastly different from what they come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► with because the first thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► notice in San Francisco that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► seem really stupid from the air but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► seems real stupid on the ground is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► you described which is there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► no reason that California Street needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► to be that steep there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► real on the face of it like it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► to build the street straight its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► straight go straight to the side of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► yeah my senses remember correctly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► there was a plan especially for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► Western neighborhoods like where I live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► not right live was was a was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► just you know on it there was not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► out here i think there was a nursing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► school and maybe an abattoir there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► not a lot in my neighborhood was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► sayin Sam zooms right yeah yeah that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► wonderful photos that you have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► neighborhood were looking down from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► know the kind of the top of the hill on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► what's like 19th Avenue now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► there's I think there was chicken farms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► was the main thing out here and i live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► nothing wrong with that okay chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► farms heritage chickens nothing wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► with that but anyway but some some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► some due to come up with a plan saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► hey why don't we can build these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► roads in a way that goes around these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► hills in a way that's a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► humane on towards with the with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► ground and i want to say that it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► earthquake in particular that they I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► guess they need to rebuild quickly i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► talking out of my ass again but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► point the point of the story is that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► today you know you can go out and buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► bike and walking map of San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► this fascinating already seen this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► and I enjoy a map that there's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► you go and pick this up anywhere and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► will show you the city right a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► intersections anywhere in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► gets like the Jesus Seminar card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► cartography it shows you four different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► colors to show you how steep the hill is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► just between those two interceptions on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► my block you can go and see I'm on they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► come on like the second or third looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► to get a light pink getting darker place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► mm you know what I mean yeah and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► luckily the bike routes that exists now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► you know take advantage of the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► example 20th avenue you can use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► yeah but for example 20th avenue is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► longest contiguous north-south route in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► my part of town that has the least he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► pound for pound you've been on my street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► I mean I'm out of breath when I walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► from my office uphill in three minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► yes people very very very steep but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► know it is it's kind of funny how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► know you described with London for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► example how you know who knows this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► might have been a bad place to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► house because this is where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► through their chamber pots out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► you know what i mean and and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► fullness of time that that changes so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► all it takes all up for five over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► all it takes is a few people who live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► long lives and live in the same house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► their whole lives to affect the course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► of development right there's that house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► here in seattle where the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► property developers had other they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► bought the entire block except for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► one bedroom bungalow literally like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► smallest house you could you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► possibly build there was just this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► bungalow left on an enormous block in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► ballard and the developers wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► build a super building that had a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► foods in it and I'm sure it was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► be very green don't know it had AI had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► trader joes in it and then it was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► be great construction and full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► and this one little bungalow was owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► by a little old lady and her husband had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► built it and she and died many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► and she still lived in this one better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► place and she wouldn't sell and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► offered her a million dollars and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► wouldn't sell and so they built their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► massive trader joes architect building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► around her house and her house still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► bright like it up they they built an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► entire thing around this little yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► it's around this little house the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► building but the new building that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► built his four five stories tall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► basically a canyon that is three feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► wide on either side and three feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► behind it it's basically like an air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► shaft where this houses and she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► wouldn't you know she wouldn't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► myself fuck you and the story is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► hilarious because it wasn't a year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► two later that she finally died of old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► age and she will do her house to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► the construction dudes who brought her a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► yeah that's awesome so but but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► talk about someplace in England you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► all it all it took was a family just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► to keep that house in their own hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► for a couple hundred years and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► kind of pass it down a few people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:44 ◼ ► live live long lives and live in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1844">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► one place and all of a sudden this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► development just by the fact that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► the family what was not up upwardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► mobile enough to ever leave it or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► sort of tradition bound and now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► thing survives and were like wow it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► amazing how did this thing make it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► these years and it's like well actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► 500 years is just what we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► I mean that's not that's not outrageous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► to think that that everyone's while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► house is actually passed down that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► well you know in in Florida that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► you know there is the thing that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► strikes me is and this is just my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► heuristic but it seems to me that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► contemporary you want to make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► building look the more likely it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► it will look extremely uncontested in 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► to 20 years not even time for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► well like yeah like yeah I that building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► was built in 2004 I recognize the shade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► of mob a vinyl siding you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► building our dated instantly yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► think i'm feeling funny cuz i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► talked about this a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► thousand but i think we yeah I know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► talked about because the wet cellos that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► ya feeling funny though because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► this funny feeling I do have a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► feeling the mosque building at Madison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► is singing the link for this we know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► talked about this once before this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► example of brutalist architecture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► where the first floor of the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► has like a ramp so that they can like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► basically you turn the hose on on snakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► that are trying to rush the building the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► writers yeah yeah and of course it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► just so hard we talked about this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► constructed where the music department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► just to reiterate the music department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► is in the basement where everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► is wilting so you know it's but here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► another one i remember is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► mid-eighties I guess there was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► it's once again how about what they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► when they open a starbucks turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► that that starbucks makes a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► necessarily make less money it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► really really strange phenomenon at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► which sounds like a little bit like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► pyramid scheme to me but that's how was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► in florida in the mid-eighties early to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► mid eighties there was a sudden influx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► of money for new construction i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:12 ◼ ► probably had to do with financing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1992">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► certain kind of attractive financing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► suddenly people were putting up strip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► malls where they're just didn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► it just it was it was unnecessary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► yeah and or an atrium well this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► economic alchemy that people talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► when they talk about job creation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► they talk about lowering the taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► and trickle-down economics and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► conservative thinking is this with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► circumstances where the business climate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► is friendly for to development and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► of a sudden it's like a Genesis bomb of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► capitalism and these you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► economically stagnant areas become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► economically vibrant and that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► the you know that is the the whole truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► of of conservatism of the magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► thinking of it it's just like look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► what happened but that mentality does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► not take any kind of super long view on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► development and they'll point to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► neighborhood in florida and saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► know development swept into this area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► and transformed it the tax base was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► suddenly elevated everybody was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► more money the city was making more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► money this is what happens when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► lower regulation and you reduce taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► and you make this can make a place but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► what they don't factor in and what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► completely irrelevant to their thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► is what is in there what is that exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► you know it's nail salons and it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► know temporary businesses it's a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► Starbucks across the street from the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► starbucks and somehow they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► making money it is this kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► magical place where economics is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► you know where capitalism is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► but is that area improving people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► lives really 20 years from now is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► area is still going to be economically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► vibrant really is there any reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► it to be there you know when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► the land and you say oh there used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► a stream hill stream here and there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► and so there was a mill here and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► why this street is called Mill Street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► and that's why this neighborhood is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► development happened here and I see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► these are warehouses instead of homes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► and I you know and I see like and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► fell on hard times when the mill closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► because there wasn't there was new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► milling technology that was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► somewhere else they didn't need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► running stream you know etcetera you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► you see development through the lens of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► history but then you go out into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► into the flats where it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► built a mall here because property was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► cheap and taxes were low and then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► conditions were were were right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► somebody who is smart to take advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► of all these seemingly unrelated things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► to make something nobody necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► needed but what's good for them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► but but as you say conditions are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► way analogous to like oh there used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► be a river here so they built a mill oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► this is flat swampy land that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► fill easily and so they built a mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► like that they're there is a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► continuity but but in the in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► way like that land that there's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► way of looking at which was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► swampy worthless land before and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► swampy worthless line now nobody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► going to go this is that it's got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► yeah it has you've built a strip mall on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2218">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► it but it is a kind of it is a false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► paradigm of economics where where money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► sleeps in and transforms a neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and then economist move on in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► thinking and they're like let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► somewhere else and have capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► transforming area but what they've left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► behind is this thing that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► percolate along for a few years and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► the lack of reason for it to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► was the lack of soul is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► manifest itself and and all the low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► taxes in the world aren't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► motivate people to go there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► there's no because it's a false thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► it's a you know it's a it's an orlando [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and I mean people are still going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► orlando but you know is or like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► course Lando is our limit maybe Orlando [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► will be there in five hundred you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► but it's also there's also a myopia it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► seems to me this is this is true of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► people all over the spectrum politically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► but you know there's it'sit's funny idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► of cause and effect where you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► something that is accurate as a true you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► can see something is accurate which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► you can say you know this sector of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► economy has created the greatest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► percentage of jobs in the last 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► and you could say something anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► could you could look at the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► absolutely true and yet make a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► based on that that will have absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► there's absolutely no Karen t let alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► logic that making a decision based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► that will reveal the same result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► specifically you could say for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► you know small businesses have created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► the greatest number of jobs over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► ok so logically then if you did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► syllogism if we give lots of money tax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► breaks or incentives to small business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► then lots more jobs should happen and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► just think that's not how that works i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► not saying don't give money to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► but i'm saying it's such a simplistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► view of things and you know i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► if it's going to take a super train to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► help people understand how this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► needs to be integrated but my senses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► when you give anybody money they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► try to spend it on things that benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► them they're not interested in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► conclusions about why that money was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► good idea money the liquidity of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► is what allows people to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► with it they could they could spend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► on you know on on rim jobs and dr.pepper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► you know we're not on Jason from here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► okay i didn't know the dr pepper man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► haha well but that as you say I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► central first of all is that I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► doesn't make any sense when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► about I don't get into the politics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► this but that I think this is at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► higher level this is a really really big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► problem unless you're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► something as sweeping as the new deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► where we basically all agree there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► some great things that were will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► built and other things where we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► need to get money to people and get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► back to work in a way that will make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► them more dignified and part of the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► politic again and we'll keep the unions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► did you think I I feel like that and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► have demonized big government in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► people's minds so much because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► because what big government represents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► two people is that some bureaucrat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► going to tell you that you have to hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► people of a race that you don't admire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► you know like big government to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► people in America is it is a simple 121 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► like you're taking my tax dollars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► then telling me that my kids have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► to school in the worst school in town in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► order to make up for some disadvantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► that minority kids have their orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► practical level you have to go hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► people whether it of any quality where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► people of that particular quality that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► you want to give jobs to there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► simply and not not enough people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► that genetic component that are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► what we do we want you we want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► hire more physics experts and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► should be they should be black women or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► they should well first of all let's look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► at how many black women are physicists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► well that might be a different problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► to solve yeah yeah but it is that social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► however it manifests itself that freaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► people out that that big government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► particularly in the hands of liberals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► for the last 50 years has engaged in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► kind of social engineering experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► nationwide in a thousand different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► and that is the thing that Paul's people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► in basically anywhere outside of San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► Francisco New York LA chicago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► seattle and well leaving aside whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► that social engineering experiment has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► merit or is successful that what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► what has been you know the the baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► that's been taught tossed out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► bathwater there is the idea that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► would be any organizing principle to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► way we approach the the development of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► america and you know we built the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► interstate highway system in it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► was eisenhower that did it in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► absolutely socialistic fashion you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► to use eminent domain to go to all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► the states in the nation and just take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► away land from people and employ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► thousands and thousands of people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► this disease can be super highways if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► take that San Francisco the do we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► see if these curve too much they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► they're not even gonna be highways let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► me just gonna go although when they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► building the interstate highways they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► found the the Pennsylvania Turnpike or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► the ohio turnpike one of the two one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► the first ones that built they built it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► and people that was just straight for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► 200 miles and people fell asleep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► drive their cars off the road turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► developing the interstate highway system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► manufacture big sweeping curves in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► roads where there's no reason for it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► order to keep people's attention for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► enough that they don't crash so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► when you drive the highways it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► rare except in places like Montana or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► Texas it's very rare that you'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► just straight interrupt an interrupted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► right straight for 400 miles you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► uh it doesn't happen because they built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► the engineered it took to kind of wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► so what you were talking about which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► that if you say building like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► builders are that is a booming sector of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► the economy you and we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► regulation is bad you get places like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► all of florida and nevada where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► build five houses for every person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► the town and it's because every one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► these builders acting independently says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► I gotta get on this train and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► nobody at the government level approving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► business permits approving building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► 600 new McMansions in this area is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► can this town support everybody just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► like well government's got to get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► the way because here we come small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► business owners you know small business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► owners have the moral imperative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► there's no you know this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► that terrifies libertarians is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► bureaucrat sitting behind a curtain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► approving or not approving their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► building permits to put a new bunker on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► their 25 acres and they feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► is that is government intrusion that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► that is police state ism but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► don't have somebody sitting there with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► rubber stamp saying I'm not approving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► any more building permits for this part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► of the town because because I'm the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► person in a position to see that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► too many houses right now being built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► like we need to put the brakes on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► development that just goes just wipes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► the side of a mountain and you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► these houses sitting up there and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► no one's ever gonna live there like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► if you get the epilogue in Florida where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► I live so so i was living in that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► in the mid eighties when I came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► after college when the economy was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► the shitter guess what you had you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► bunch of uncompleted strip malls yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► had that one mall the easy haha what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► it is a chris rock that says it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► like baby clothes you know and greeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► cards or whatever its but its true like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2758">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► that one mall that was barely hanging on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► is gone and now it's you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► eventually I think everything what when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► things we stretching more farmers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► markets and and flea markets in places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► that used to be retail stores i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► that's a pretty good sign that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► yeah and the solution in most cases the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► the BM the raw capitalist solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► that is to go build another strip mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► in a newer neighborhood you know it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► not to repurpose that old strip mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► that's now full of RC modeler stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► you know it is not to tear down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► shitty motel style apartment building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► and build build something new there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► rather than tear down the Victorian you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► know the solution is always go build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► another one somewhere else and try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► you know trying to light the gasoline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► over there so it's going to burn real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► hot and we're going to think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► making money we're generating money over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► there and there's just there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► collective memory of all these about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► this trail of strip malls it's like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► it's like the islands of Hawaii if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► look at Hawaii the reason it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► a like a dragon's tail is that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► hot spot under the ocean and over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► course of millennia you know the the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► the shifting crusts under the ocean have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► moved they haven't they moved along this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► hotspot and the hotspot keeps producing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► islands and then the islands move on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► crust in the wake of this burning you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► know this is burning hole and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► agenda done yet this is all new to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► yeah that's true of economic development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► to the the burning hole keeps moving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► are these nail salons and RC modeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► boutiques and Starbucks's or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► the starbucks equivalent 40 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► was which was not Orange Julius it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► stuff seeing stuff that about 40 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► yeah what was what was a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► well photo/national photo mats em photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► places that little Italian restaurant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► like home style italian side like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► mall or and ya inside of an old like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► mall that front of the highway right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► well i'm thinking yeah we're walking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► there was a little fountain in the bin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► Laden right where we're kind of a cherub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► had some water coming out of his penis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► it's not you know there's probably so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► many things senior theses about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► that I'll never read but I have to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► I am really fascinated by what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► to a mall in particular as it goes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► because there's always there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► ok so in Cincinnati we had northgate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► mall and northgate mall was probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► the first that was one of the first like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► enclosed malls in the United States as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► far yeah also has a northgate mall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► interesting give a westfield mall we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► I think we have a self game all ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► with this update in itself center or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► southcenter but you know it starts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► and everything's glitzy and I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► as a kid you remember this you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► mall as a kid and they have fountains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► yeah inside my head the mountain inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► the inside the mall but then also they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► would have car shows and van shows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► clearwater mall in clearwater florida i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► remember at one point was the my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► grandfather knew this exactly including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► the asterisks but it was the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► largest mall under one roof in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► united states and was huge two-story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► mall before these things were had really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► yeah but you know I remember going there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► there's a custom van show remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► seeing one called the dreamweaver with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► oh yeah remember remember the Pinto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► wagon that had a that had a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► circular window in the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► window a bubble window Allah Allah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► yeah and the you would get open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► tailgate on this Pinto wagon and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► inside of the wagon was all plush carpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► this is the thing these shows and zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► out so sexy and I remember one time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► had a thing about the stuff from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► future they had a house of the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► that looks like a UFO and then it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► slidin down you know I'm pretty soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► you've got a bit worried whether used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► be like Sheila toes or McAlpin's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► you've got like a pantry pride that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► what I'm stride oh that's when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► that but you know it's funny look at our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► mall arm all i think is whistling past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► the graveyard right now we are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► notice on the caravan their mothers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► mall where the apple store is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► almost exactly a mile south of where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► yeah and and used to be walk through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► there and see how many places were empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► first I understand how you can have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► 40 shoe stores in the mall I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► understand that but i guess there must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► be a reason that they stay alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► suddenly there's more places like hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► topic there's more places like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► high volume younger people kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► places there's tons of phone kiosks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► but you know what they do now is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► the place is empty remember how it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► to be they would just have like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► yeah and then the board of thing becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► something where they like Drew giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► people on it that's right a big mural or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► they dropped they'd say this space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► available now people carrying shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► bags now think they light it up and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► of make it look like it's a store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► they they did you know and the things if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► you look twice at it you'd realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► it's it's it's like staging a model home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► really it's a dummy store it's not if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► you look at it obviously you can't walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► in but I think they're trying to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► the missing teeth that those kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► places created a mock because i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► bet you for a middle aged person walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► into a mall with a lot of stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► you know what I mean it feels handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► feels like urban or the physics suburban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► retail blight sure like it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► come out and play unless you're i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► going to bed on you can open but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► know that the what you're describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► also though is like that you know to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► into all the infrastructure of what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► takes two to do any of those things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► like you know are we can have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► capacity i'm guessing for things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► you know garbage and water and public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► transit and stop lights and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► kinds of things we had a friend in when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► i was when i was a in junior high who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► was the county Administrator I don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► a rock-and-roll county administrator but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► he was a county administrator for pasco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► county and he wouldn't just out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► nowhere sometimes he would drop these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► fascinating facts and you and you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► was saying one day I was helping him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► school helping him split some logs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► think for you know four dollars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► that's what she called a flourish it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► you grow up in Indiana and made 1850 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► I grew up in formaldehyde house but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► said southern yeah you know it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► crazy over there by southgate mall it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► really not so you know there should be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► stoplight there is what can you do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► that Gallagher can you get a John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► Gallagher can you get a stop light over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► there said you know what I think what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► said with you know what it cost to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► yeah and i forget i think the stoplight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► in 1980 and he said any stop by starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► yeah um which I metal from remembering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► that right but what I do remember is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► when he told me what it cost to put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► stop light or a stop sign was like over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► a thousand dollars or something but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► was one of those things where was a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► wake-up call to me because I just always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► assume that there was a warehouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► somewhere full of entirely modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► stoplights and I got to do some couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► guys over there and put it up just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► couple guys that changes everything if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► you're doing that on US 19 and you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► in a new stoplight with the with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► it with al and green arrow and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► butterfly effect Apple absolutely right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► now they're building a new subway line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► that goes to chinatown and stockton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► completely upside down and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► explain to my daughter who just mainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► want to go to disney store and have me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► shut up that the knock-on effect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► closing the street for four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► like what that's going to mean to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► economy for the been for the was not Ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► Ben Ben Ben Gurion david ben-gurion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► Allah Allah main yeah I don't know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► well I that the the thing about local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► government you know city government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► county government these guys are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► to balance all these factors all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► things are happening and we interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► with their decisions mostly on the level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► why is there not a blank here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► why is there not a stop sign at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► intersection who and why why is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► never a cop when I can find one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► the these and and everyone so while our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► garbage doesn't get picked up and were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► like goddamn City Hall but these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► who are working in local governments are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► trying to you know trying to put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► fires but also trying to try to envision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► the big picture of the development of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► their region and this argument that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► this big government versus you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► fundamentally doesn't interest me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► because it's fundamentally not the art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► it's not working with the right argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► it's the wrong argument like at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► apocalyptic thinker who believes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► the day that you die the world stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► existing and I think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► live this one that's a really good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► i don't know their life such as sad way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► to put it but I think you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► yeah they either because they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► they're going to heaven or because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► themselves but a lot of people just are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► like what are you talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► hundred years from now there is no such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► thing i'm not going to be here so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3357">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► would it matter but without that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► thinking and that kind of thinking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► not inherently it's there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► intrinsically hostile to capitalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► about it but it does and I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► people's suspicions that those that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► because this is that this is the famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► refrain of libertarians when you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► listen somebody needs to decide how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► houses are going to build we get built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► it can't be unlimited number of houses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► you know we can't we can't let that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► number of houses built in Las Vegas be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► determined just by how many houses we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► can possibly build this year the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► Libertarians will instantly say well who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► decides who gets to decide about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► who understand the problem well and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► implication is that it's someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► qualified you know the implication is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► that that decision is going to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► by by some bureaucrat with a degree in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► sociology from a local community college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► who's going to sit there and smirk at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► them as they give as they decline their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► building permit you know and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► such a pervasive attitude and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► a funny thing when you think about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► politics and in in America and in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► where most people's political awareness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► is at the level of they go to the DMV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► and they have a bad experience and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► radical Isis that they become anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► government because they went to the DMV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► and somebody there was rude to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► charge them what they think is an unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► amount for their tabs and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► that is the depth of their political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► experience they have a they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► any interaction with with government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► other than getting pulled over by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► cops having to wait in line at the DMV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► and what the guy comes into their yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► to read their meter you know that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► extent of their contact and a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► negative experiences it radicalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► people for life because they picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► Congress or a picture the people at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► City Hall and they imagine it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► giant DMV full of likes of like smog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► lazy people with whom most of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► probably have an agenda smug lazy people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► who whether they have an agenda they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► certainly have tenure they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► to get fired they are you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► part of a they're part of a city union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► or government union and they have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► kind of Union smugness and so people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► know people think when they at when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► libertarians ask that question who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► decides what their picturing is a DMV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► and what the country needs or what how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► the way we need to think is well yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► that's a good question who decides and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► it's not it isn't the question isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► answered just by asking it in a snare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► eway like yeah who decides let's pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► somebody you know I mean do we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► do we want to basically that's asking do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► we want another layer of government but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► it's a but it is a it's a valid question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► we need we cannot because the mayor has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► to run around town you showing up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► mayor does not have the time to sit at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► long table with his council of elders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► and consider these things but every city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► needs a philosopher you know every city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► needs a almost like an existential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► project manager excited that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► develop of developments are because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► cities are all about development the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► question the question of cities and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► question of america is really a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► owned property they want the right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► develop and how they want but our mutual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► depends on occasionally people being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► disappointed because you can't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► just do what you want if we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► have cities that are coherent you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► if our lives are going to be coherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► not everybody gets to do exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► they want all the time and just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► question as far as development does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► also under that rubric you you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► also include things like infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► upkeep maintenance fixing the sidewalks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:40 ◼ ► ridiculously costly stuff that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3640">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► all factors into the the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► issue right absolutely and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► times and this is the this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► about taxes like the the water that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► get out of our tap in seattle is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► through pipes that come all the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► from the mountains for you know hundreds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► of miles these pipes and they were laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► a hundred years ago or more by teams of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► men with shovel shovels and donkeys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► some of these pipes I swear to you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► made out of cedar I'm not kidding you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► making that up there are water there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► giant water mains in washington state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► that are made out of cedar and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► lot of them that are made out of iron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► and and whatever else and at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► point you need you're gonna need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► modernize those systems you know when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► went when I bought this house when my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► mom bought her house one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► things we did was we dug up the rusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► iron water main that went out to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► street and replaced it with it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► new you know sadly PVC water made but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► only went out to the street the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3718">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► man that runs under the sidewalk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► whose responsibility it's only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► cities and as you follow that back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► the Giant you know the cedar tube that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► you could run a super train through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► is buried basically under the street two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► um what do you do when that went up when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► that springs a leak you know it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► you cannot you cannot talk about taxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► you can't talk about development without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► understanding that this that all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► cities are built they were built at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► time when a guy with a cigar and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► handlebar mustache said build a pipe do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► it and people did it he did not have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► get he did not have to get approval from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► seven different city agencies because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► they didn't exist yet but now when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► thing when that thing fails it's all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► our responsibilities and and more to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► point like what do I mean this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► public transit question it's like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► not building public transit for now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► we're always building public transit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► 40 years from now and has to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► essay and tech forward compatible right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► and if you if you if you put it up to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► public referendum and you say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► everybody out there to take a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► like mute your televisions for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► and let's think about what this city is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► going to look like in 40 years and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► transit is going to interact with it who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► is it who even needs their television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► not nobody does they're all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► how.what blue somebody has to be looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► at that and and and making and somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► has to be looking at that empowered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► make decisions because we have people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► looking at it we have transit committees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► who look at them they're like well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► is what we have to do but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► empowered they all they can do is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► of Limp forward with their project and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► the four percent of the population that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► reads the newspaper still and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► hope that the rest of the people are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► confused to read the ballot initiative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► properly i mean that's that's why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► have valid initiatives are are phrased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► so convoluted li-like vote yes on no to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► the gas project to the double negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► active and the funny part is you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► when you watch like the the local you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► know planning meetings or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► that on on those weird cable stations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► yeah but I see this is I I'm really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► to come back to this i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► consider nominating you to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► bizarre it for these things I'd like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:36 ◼ ► to control others are well I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3876">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► is clearly you need that here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► thing like in england right you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► queen and you gotta prime minister i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► think they think you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► you got somebody is therefore the Syrian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► ceremonial stuff you might even said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► that the Prime Minister of England is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► oh no you did it you are putting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3892">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► you know you got somebody who's there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► yeah and and then you need a Unitas are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► you know what i mean but yeah I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► this is why Bloomberg has been such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► successful mayor of New York is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► Bloomberg and Bloomberg has enough has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► had enough success running that city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► with enough like innovative ideas that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► Democratic City people have embraced him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► and despite the fact that he is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► Imperial people are like yeah okay but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► he you know he's he's doing some pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► cool stuff and so people give him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► leeway this whole like outlawing soda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► pops that are bigger than 16 ounces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► thing whoever not even Giuliani would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:52 ◼ ► have would have attempted such a such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3952">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► uh-huh but but Bloomberg succeeded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► precisely yes you can buy to you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► carry around a 32 ounce cup and x 2 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► ounce pops and the green way to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► that is the you know that's hacking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► that's how can be actually marine life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► right you know what I think when I New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► York is one of those places when I stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► there and i imagine it when i look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► the geography of Manhattan Island and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► imagine what if New York was built like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► London what if New York was built like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► you originally was which was twisty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► windy streets that conform to the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► or less to the geography of the land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► k imagine manhattan island without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► crisscrossing right angle boulevards if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► if Manhattan had just been developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► like London just go trails and twisting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► little roads I mean you could say oh it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► wouldn't have prospered like it has but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► London has prospered who London is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► major city of the world and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► not two streets running parallel in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► what if New York had not been greeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► you try to imagine the try to imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► the city that same way or you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► because because the geography of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► America's it's pretty interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► certainly as you move up the island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► uh-huh if you had little twisty windy at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► skyline with sure look different now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:41 ◼ ► from what i can tell you why but I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4061">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► skyscrapers in general yeah there would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► be if for no other reason than it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► be really hard to close off this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► know you know seven-eighths of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► circle ish area and they got a six-block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► area is going to be closed for walkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4078">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► were doing this the crane goes here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► you know I mean yeah well maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► wouldn't be a skyscraper city would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► like Greenwich Village the whole place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► um but every once awhile when I'm there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► I'll stop in union square something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► trying to Train hover and get the get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► and be like why would that be don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► so weird it would seem so much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► metropolitan yeah although London does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► not lack metropolitan tennety if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► weird in my head that grid is any1 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► New York maybe four times but it's York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► City but like that greatness that George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► Gershwin but then you kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► criticism that's what it feels like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► ya know that it's it's it's just a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► just a fantasy fantasy thinking because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► of course like it wouldn't be newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► wouldn't be Priscilla put up with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► can imagine cabbies having to deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4136">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► well that that that is I mean I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► driven I've driven in london in the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► know in the center of the city many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► times over the years powerful it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► minutes that's crazy-making and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► people that live there i think even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► people who live there the whole life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► still appreciate that it is crazy isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► room like that too is around pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► Rome is crazy to drive and not just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► that reason but also because people it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► in Italy it is driving in Rome is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► I mean there's no there's no serbia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► there's no other way to put it it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► like a that's the fucks about slots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► you know people driving on the sidewalks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► and it's just I just AM cabins that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► a thousand times did a quick google map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► search on how far away my water is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► just I just made himself a few minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► ago at one point that water was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► hundred and eighty nine miles away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► here the water that you are drinking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► San Francisco it comes from a place if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► drove there we take 24 hours to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► wear my water comes from ya think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► how long it takes the water to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► trip like the Sun or something for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► reason and I you know so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► thread that runs through a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► you're saying i think which is that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► of just don't really understand how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeahs understand on our soap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► boxes and screaming child I mean people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► yesterday because because they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► to the DMV that's all that that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► autonomy that's like all they need is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► the nose that's all they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► government works is this certainly women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► woman with lots of you know longevity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► performance badges who's not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► something that seems very simple to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► that's emblematic that becomes the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► absolutely ended and it's a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► you get your tax bill and it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► unfair and you go that's not right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► that is the depth of your analysis like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► the tax bill seems unfair and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► right because that money is being wasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► and now i'm outraged and no one that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► is so unusual that a person even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► even a liberal who's like well I pay my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► taxes happily you know investigating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► exactly how your tax money is spent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► what is fascinating and you get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► point where you're like my tax bill came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► what am I gonna find you know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► am I going to discover in it now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► know there are so I'm there there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► plenty of waste for sure in government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► but they're trying to do so much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► know government is trying to do so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► and if all you have to do is go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► place like Bulgaria where the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► is trying to do a lot of things and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► 100-percent making it happen not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► penetrating all the little places you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► know and you're you're walking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► the city and you're like I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► a thing that no one in America has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► experienced but if you are in Eastern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► Europe and walking down the street you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► you see missing manhole covers right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► yeah you know well why do you never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► that in America because that if a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► manhole cover went missing it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► there is no such thing as a missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► manhole cover even in America even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► even in the most bombed out city here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► there is enough government to keep that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► and we're like you wouldn't just drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► off like if they're building or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► repairing some part of the highway you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► would never just drive off an OP like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► off-ramp they just stopped in midair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► right right i just got to put up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► yeah there's always I mean and at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► other day my mom was driving down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4378">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► street and they're building their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► building some public transit here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► Seattle that was conceived by committee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► approved approved by a committee that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► was trying to appeal to 15 different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► constituencies so that there is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► like if you look at the town you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► how it's going to develop over the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► 40 years the train should have gone XYZ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► but they put the train in you know XP l [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► because they had to go by P because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► that's the hospital and that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► constituencies you have to go have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► train go by the hospital and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► and it would be too difficult to to turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► the train around over here anyway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► they're there they're building what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► what is a good thing and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► building a dumb way because there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► somebody with the power sitting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► big chair to say it's got to go here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► I'm sorry if that disappoints people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► really this is how this is how it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► look anyway so they're building this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► thing and so we've got the streets all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► torn up and there's traffic backed up 42 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► miles along Broadway and my mom is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► sitting at this traffic light and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► there's a cop there and the cop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► ostensibly directing traffic but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► cops got one hand in his pocket and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► just kind of standing there like a dope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► and every once in a while somebody gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► in the wrong lane or has his turn signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► on in a way the cup doesn't like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► cop Connie you know will yell at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► other guy like keep moving or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► like that but my mom looks at that cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► and what she sees in his place is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► vigorous traffic directing police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► officer was like come on let's go let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► go you know one of those guys that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► we've got a whistle and is just clenched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► in his teeth like the model the model of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:54 ◼ ► already this guy who's like I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4494">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► charge of this intersection if nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► else if nothing else in my life if my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► wife doesn't love me if my kids don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► listen to me i'm in charge of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► fucking intersection right now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► want you to go now go now you twit go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► okay stop now you go and what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► intersection needed what the city of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► seattle needed in that moment was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► cop the cop who had a whistle in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► intersection that's a different from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► attitude of a fireman is getting at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► getting you out of the building next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► the one that's burning right you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► again got clarity of thinking ahead like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► everybody else in here is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► thinking about what's going on and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► they're going to have for dinner and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► gonna stand here and every one of you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► going to in an orderly way you're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► gonna go through that door and get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► go go go go and I don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► intersection and she's looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► cop and she's like the city isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► the government isn't working and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► know my mom has has a long view but her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► relationship to the police department in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► seattle is is very is very much like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► mom is very she sends a lot of anonymous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► angry letters precinct so she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► got her own own little bitter rolodex of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► exactly how it should go to she takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► people's badge numbers Oh gotta respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► that and she writes down this actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► follows through she follows through yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► she's trying to she's not she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► let the cops off the hook at all but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► she's sitting at this intersection she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► like what the fuck is wrong with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► what is wrong with the culture of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► police department that this police [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► person does not have the does not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► that the energy to actually be directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► traffic here and she's looking up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► street and looking down the street and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► she's like this is affecting this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► going to affect traffic in seattle all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► day because it had its having a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► having a a reverberatory affect all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► and it's all on this guy who's who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► taking a lazy a fair attitude to his job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► here you know and and and honestly if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► was that cop supervisor and drove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► through there and there was nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► blocking the intersection and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► lying dead on the street you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► he's doing his job but he's not he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► doing is not really doing the job but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► what you think about all these guys that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► came it came to Seattle today to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► off a bale hay at somebody's kiddie ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► and they're driving a dually diesel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► dodge pickup truck and they're headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► back out to their ranch in yakima and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► they're waiting at this intersection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► you know you hear these people talk all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► the time they're like I've never live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► Seattle hell no although you know just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► bunch of there's a bunch of animals who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► and that's that guy's that's that guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► experience of Seattle this is hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► he's got your card yeah he's watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► she's watching that cop and he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► this is bullshit and he is and his vote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► counts the same as mine about whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► Seattle gets the tax money to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► high-speed public transit or to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:22 ◼ ► our water mains and he's sitting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4702">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► there you know in the same county i live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► in but he's going well you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► money is just wasted who decides it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► just some just some bureaucrat but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► you're onto something that's a theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► I've been trying to bubble around in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► head for a while and it's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► particularly new or unique but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► in example like that it's that is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► close to a template for how millions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► interactions go down every day and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► can certainly see the results of this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► the internet once you're aware of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► pattern listeners you you may see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► more so you know it's it's it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► behavioral therapy works in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► but more like awful and distorted way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► something happens in the world and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► could be Leslie so you know you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► DMV and you don't like this person's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► attitude i'm at the safeway and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► like that the person is talking about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► nobody is displeased with how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► particular person is or is not directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► traffic and the one of the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► thing that happens is you see something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► happening and you go straight to having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► a very strong emotion about it and let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► be honest that you know let's just even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► say that maybe that person is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► working optimally or not working to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► spec let's just say for the sake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► argument that just didn't go as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► great example customer service people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► right you call up and send something was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► broken your you know your Superman ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► is not as well articulated as it said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► the ad and you call this person and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► you're furious but something happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► you get a really strong emotion about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► i eat maybe can't shake and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► feels like it's not a very long there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► might be other steps in this but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► not a very long leap from for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► people from something happened i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► feeling to this will have an impact on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► society right to like I suddenly have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► such and I think part of it comes out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► this impotent feeling that maybe your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► libertarian who thinks that you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► only you know pay for one road that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► everybody uses lightly or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► maybe you don't mean but whoever you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► whatever your political affiliation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► I honestly think that most of us it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► starts with an emotion it doesn't start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► with going to a planning meeting or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► zoning meeting and understanding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► doesn't start with the understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► that maybe that guy's cat maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► yeah you know it is and the trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► too too flimsy about this but what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► funny is that the people who get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► most worked up and become these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► who are connected with the the witch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► called tweet storms or the other bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► like the people get involved in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► stuff it really just started because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► they're mad at their luggage wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► yeah you know and in order to quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► Barry it's very soul like well what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► want to do you want me to do you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► just do you want to just pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► airport and shake it to your bags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► yeah I'm here and you know what dude on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► the baggage guy and I'm fucking here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► you're not going to meet another person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► here that is that with your attitude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:11 ◼ ► you're never going to meet anybody more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4871">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► my job is to try and help help you but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► I am NOT God I I can't change the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► that a huge broken system works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► you're yelling at me is not helping and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► then going on Twitter and yelling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► it is going to help even less even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► you get a lynch mob mob it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► to change the denver airport and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► the the thing that has affected the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► tenor of our national conversation the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► idea that property rights is a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► that you would shout at somebody is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► mean there is no more secure your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► farmers your farmers who who want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► want to have you know they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► build a skyscraper they want the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► to build a skyscraper yeah and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► shout this now who do know who do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► own any property property rights has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► become a kind of stuff what's wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► Kansas problem it's like you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► like my mom who have the values of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► Republican and none of the assets to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► yeah right and to the right is the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► they want there are no two more personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► words in American politics because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► property rights is it's it's it it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► expression of people's feeling that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► do not have any power over there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► don't have autonomy they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► well they did they got the ownership [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► that God has granted them as an American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► but they don't have the rights that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► come with that right well or or or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► they don't see I mean the thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► have tremendous sympathy for municipal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► governments because I because my people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► all were always in government my uncle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► was a was a the mayor of Anchorage my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► dad was on the legislature my granduncle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► was a city councilman you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► come from these people and I ready and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► end up adding friends with the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► government here in Seattle and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► talking about government and so I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► from them their frustrations and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► not expressed as frustrations are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► to go to a meeting where I am saying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► we need to keep the side of this hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► forested otherwise landslides who will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► take all the soil off down into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► river and we will have floods and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► will be a natural disaster and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► saying this to the five guys who own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► that hillside and they own that land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► some of them have owned that land for 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► years and whether they ever intended to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► cut those trees down who they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► powerful desire to not be told what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► do with that land is deafening them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► if you don't have sympathy for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► guys who own that hillside you're crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► because you have to have sympathy for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► them if that was my land I would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► the same way if that was my land I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► be at that meeting and I would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► god damn you property rights you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► tell me that I can't chop down these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► trees you know and and show me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► report show me the science that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► that this you know you don't know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► sure guy that the landslides are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► to happen like all this in its it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► analogous to global warming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► analogous to every one of our national [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► problems there is a there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► personal there's a guy at the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► every one of those that has a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► feeling that you shouldn't be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► tell him what to do but the city the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► whose job it is to keep that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► happening and it's not his job isn't to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► you know this is the other negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► version of government is that the guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► just trying to protect his ass but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► the landslide happens then he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► be on the hook for it and that's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► motivation if the government spent more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► money on landslide remediation they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► got the budget while they take care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► that instead of picking my pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► yeah we're or other there's a million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► permutations of it but most people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► were working in government are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► protect their ask that way or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► the high levels they're trying to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► for years down the road and and yet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► have tremendous sympathy for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► purpose for these people who own that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► but their hands are tied and you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► you cannot go to a meeting like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► come away from it feeling like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► there's any kind of elegant solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► because you're never going to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► those five guys and they are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► yell and they're going to say they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► going to say crazy things to you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► because you are taking you are taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► from them and it's in that case eat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► I again I don't know if it's the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► year metonymy you are the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► that person is standing up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► delivering that bad news they may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► even have had that much of a say in yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► it'll go there the government and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► inability to do anything about it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► them even more hateable yeah and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► up what's incredible about our country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► right now is that those five guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► own that hillsides covered with trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► have convinced fifty percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► country to be just as mad as they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► about it you know fifty percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► country the whole town now is mad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► whether or not these guys should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► allowed to cut down those trees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► create an inevitable mudslide that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► that blocks the river and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► there are people saying show us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► report and there are people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► property rights above all and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► people saying who decides and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► there's that you know then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► the government that's like well shit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► guys seriously did you really do I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► to show you every time this has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► before do I have to show me come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► sweet we need to just make this decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► and it's got to get made and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► sympathy for those people but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► say what do you think is the proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► amount of evidence that they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► presented to them like you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► you're pretty skeptical guy you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► well how do you so when the club owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► says I'm you know I agreed to pay this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► much or less even say that so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► know how I can give you an example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► without you find a great loophole but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► let's say they want to give you less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► like what the evidence that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► accept told you sure it's the same in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► every aspect if somebody you know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► a lot of people have somebody on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► writes them whispers response to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► q you don't know what you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► about that they just blocked that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► immediately because they just there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► don't need that in their lives for me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► somebody I pft that says fuck you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► don't know what you're talking about i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► always reply can i block these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► for you so you don't even have to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► them John i always reply because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► twenty-five percent of the time there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► was a guy yesterday who listen to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► podcast on depression and wrote me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► tweet I swear to you Merlin wrote me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► tweet that said fuck you ! depression is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► easy to cure you just have to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► fuck you that's that sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► trolling who knows what it was but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► mean how did you get person believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► that well so I so the thing is if I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► so what i wrote it was gee sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► you've really got depression under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► control like good on you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► sound super healthy which is sarcastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► but also an opportunity for this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► to stop and think about what they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► did and this morning I wake up and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► have a tweet from this guy going i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► apologize i was rude i have i've deleted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► that tweet and I'm embarrassed that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5337">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► become tweet delete guy and I had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► there was i have no right to talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► that what happened to our seattle to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► got you got somebody deleted a tweet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► that right there is the amount of due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► diligence and then I think anybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► owed because there are all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► people out there who are going to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► what fuck you know and if you say yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► okay you sound like you're a little mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► now you want to talk about it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► I always think about how mad I am haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► but but you give him that chance and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► they if they come back and say oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► then you know that you're dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► reasonable person if their response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► fuck you then they're blocked and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► know and if there if you do if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► that in a city council meeting and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► say fuck you you know my feelings you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► have you have shown them all the reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► you need to show him right up but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► is not how necessarily a democracy works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► Oh everybody as super train ploughs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► across the land everybody will get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► chance to read the report but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► gonna get one chance to read it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► like a lot of people will understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► on the face of it will understand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► crane a cloth people understand a claw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► on a train it's just something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► understand even illiterate people even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► people who don't speak English you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► going to see the claw on the train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► coming and they're gonna go i get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► I grass is it i mean it is certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► maybe not in national census day it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► involve a certain kind of eminent domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► oh so my struggle and understanding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► little the name of super train is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► eminent domain to be written across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► front of the engine in script and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► don't make letter so they can see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► it's flashing Christ comes the eminent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► down the eight-minute domain has arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► and the claw is like the claw is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► choosing which houses which forested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► hills from it from a distance again here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► you could just be the claw is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► warming up people here and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► closer and closer i love it and remain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► first I is is probably running too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► but I am epic think that was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► yeah why had a good anko OU what was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► so important but not what I want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► an anecdote that you know thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:50 ◼ ► I am i I'm trying to grow is pursuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5510">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► general this out for Cleveland I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► editor on the decider i'm not in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► eminent domain owner that's true in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► sense in the show you are absolutely the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► mayor I'm not the man that I'm so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► the mayor of open-air okay you are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► US the city bureaucrat on the rock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► roll county executive of the podcast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► admire your work and I have a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► yeah but I'm exercise it with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► probably but you need to go right home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► and not but I want to hear your amex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► notes i'll save it save it for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► show i just know it's just on the train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► is just something that has become for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► well I don't know why but I i keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► coming up with this these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► used to happen to me that are that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:37 ◼ ► making me sympathetic to the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5557">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► are getting yelled at when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► trying to help you you know what I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► and it's a note to me it sums up a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► of what you're talking about and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► this is you know I you know when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► first met I was doing web development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► livelihood and I've been doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► since 1995 and when i started doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► 1995 I'm part of my job in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► which was educating people about why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► fuck they would want a website and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► is the internet I mean to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► there are a lot of people who didn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► know I wasn't making a lot of money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► it but nevertheless you know they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► they would sooner try and get an AOL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:16 ◼ ► keyword then they would try to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5596">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► website that why i don't have that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► don't look at those why would anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► else and that got easier over time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► the opacity of how internet technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► works which is something i'm certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► not the master of that stuff but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► will tell you that that most people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► we're hiring me because of the tiny bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► of expertise i had and basically talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:35 ◼ ► to them figuring out what they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5615">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► turning it into a graphical web site and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► then using a basic ftp technology to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► it onto a web server where people could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► get to it and that's what my job was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► job was to try and make a graphical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► design for a website and then put it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► and then they look at it in the browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► and then maybe you know emails get sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► through a little perl script form so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► they can make informed people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► male and so forth but there's a funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► thing that happens in actually is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► wonderful tumblr called clients from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► hell that covers a lot of these kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► stories but one thing that used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► happen to me a surprising amount of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► time was that I would get a call from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► client often a client that hadn't been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► client for several months and they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► say things like and if anybody has ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► done this for a living is already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► nodding because this happens all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► time so people call me up and they say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► ok you can get your website is it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► would say was I'm that can see it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► here and saying no it's not but nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► is coming up well and you see where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5679">TS</a>]
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01:34:46 ◼ ► feel like I'm a dick i would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► trace through whether their computer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► on whether they were in a web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► whether whether whether they're ethernet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► cable is plugged in John weather haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► what you know whether their isp was down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► and so all you know what whereas they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► hired me to make them a website and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► it up and who knows maybe I frame that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► badly now I'm the one who has to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► them whether they're Hayes modem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► configured configured correctly with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► right codes & ampersand in order to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► a signal or I'm the one trying to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► their credit card expired on AOL or I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► the one explaining that they're using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► five-year-old web browser or or I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► one telling that the because the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► there brother-in-law's house on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► different size screen that's how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► color all fucked up that's that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► seeing something that's really screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► up and I don't have the ability to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► anything about any of that but now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► the dick like I got you know thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► I'm accessible like you knew how to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► me or you knew how to email me I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► gracious enough to talk to you even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► though your check didn't clear maybe two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► years ago but you know I always felt in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► a really funny and frustrated position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► because there's nothing I could say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► that person that didn't sound like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► making a bunch of excuses right all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► know is i can't get to my website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► well I i know we can all I can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► that doesn't have anything to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► well then why did i pay you a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► and seven dollars to make me a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► well and I never realized that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► sound really really extreme but but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► I think about that person the DMV at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► DMV or I think about that person they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► think about the fireman he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► fire fighter who's trying to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► out of that building you know to explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► interaction of oxygen and heat with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► error that causes would in particular to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► be a particularly inflammable and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► buildings are made out of what like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► have to explain all that when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► going why are you being such a screaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► yeah 1 i'm being screaming asshole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► because on the screaming asshole who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► might save your life right and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► why isn't there a stoplight by southgate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► mall he could say well eh I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► anything to do with stoplights even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► quote-unquote government and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► your fucking ass out of the building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► yeah and i think i think that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► interesting part of that if there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► interesting part is that for my clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► that I had and these are the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► clients who you know there's things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► you would see classic stories you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► the old jokes about people who put their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► drink in the CD holder the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► touch the mouse of the screen with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► Mouse the people who always go to yahoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► everybody's got these everybody in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► DoubleClick's links they double click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► every link and I tell me you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► don't need to double-click the agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► click that once so on the asshole right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► up but my point being that it isn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► we have to understand everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► how a computer works but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► nice to understand enough in that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► to know who to call and whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5876">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► yeah and and that's what I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► when the point only is tiny point I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► trying to make about the whole like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► people who show up those meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► well like for example on pals with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► guy who's our merchant Association [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► liaison for our neighborhood that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► basically the only people who show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► it's like this handful of Chinese ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► with an agenda and then I'll take care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► of that i'll do that i'll do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► because they know that they're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► there's there's so much stuff that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► they're going to make sure that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► stuff that gets done is the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► benefits them nobody else is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► those meetings but it isn't until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► there's no 35 bubble drink places and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► 75 verizon stores that people go our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► neighborhoods getting kind of weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:42 ◼ ► it's safe everybody if everybody showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5922">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► up and followed everything they go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► all of those meetings and they learn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► understand how that works but that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► downside of the way that a system like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► ours works is that the bigger it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► the more moving parts that are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:55 ◼ ► harder it is to understand and into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5935">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► general point that the more abstraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► there is between that messenger who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► to bring that unhappy message to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► hill people and the and the the myriad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► number of this of connections in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► fucked-up game of telephone that ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► led to that meeting of occurring in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► first place and so I you know I i take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► you the larger point about like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► in there you know I just think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:18 ◼ ► basic human problem that we could all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5958">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► better at on a personal level which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► understanding that the person who picks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► up the phone and is willing to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► you complain is not necessarily the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► person who's to blame for your tax bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► yeah and and you know the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► when you said government like what not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► you but like what the fuck does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► mean that's like that's like saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► I mean the government is you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► in that aid vehicle who picked you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► off the street you know it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► it's the people working at Hetch Hetchy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► that bringing my water it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► it's just the lies such a it is time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► azhar it's time for somebody either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► explain this process to people in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► that they can't control or get away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► or to make it not matter anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► bring a claw into it that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► solution because i think people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► basically this emotionally driven by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► these things and that emotion quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► turns into like what this means about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► the universe and and then when you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► to make public policy based on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► you're going to have a total clusterfuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► yeah yeah and you know that farmer stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► for a minute and said oh ok this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► really matter if i want to scare her way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► I've got to protect my my thing you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► what I mean it's so anyway I that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► way I look at it because it's helped me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► for one thing with being less frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► when somebody yells at me because I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► honestly say to them look I you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► trying to solve the wrong problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► well like you say i think that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► the introduction of the concept of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► abstraction is the key one who because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► that's the big pattern as it gets more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► abstract with this funny thing happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► which is that people think that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► now dealing with a world of unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► possibility like in in cases where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► people understand the whole chain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► events they also understand where their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► where there's no more you can do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► know what I mean like if your if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► kid falls through the ice and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► standing on the side of the lake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► help help rescue my kid and the firemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► goes crawls out on the ice and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► at a certain point you understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► no one can rescue your kid because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► watched it you watch the firemen crawl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► out on the ice and fall through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► you know there isn't any magic that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:47 ◼ ► can bring to bear on this situation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6107">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► so if your kid drowned in it in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► Lake you have a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► there's no one to blame you know the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► just fell through the ice and the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► training resident in that moment in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► moment and and and for the rest of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► life you have a kind of peace with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► we're like I was there I saw it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► happen i understand that that my kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► but if you are standing if your kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► falls through the ice and there's a fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► truck there with a giant a crane and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► say help my kid and the firemen says the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► crane isn't rated to be extended that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► om then it is still true just as true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► that there that they have no technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► that can reach your kid but you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► understand anymore you know and and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► though the firemen knows if he extends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► the crane that far the whole fire trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► going to tip over into the lake but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► being unable to demonstrate here he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► a reason so but he had a reason to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► look lady I don't know you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► would love to help you any way I can but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► if i do that ten people might die right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► but now there's this abstraction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► crane and what its load limit is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► what how far you can extend it and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► the possibilities are that introduces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► the concept that maybe if he had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► and so then when your kid drowns you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► full of resentment your full you layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► you lay awake at night and think why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► didn't they just extend the crane why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► didn't they just take that risk and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► see this in your computer in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► the less people know about computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► the more they actually think anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► can happen that you can just touch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► with your elbow and it suddenly starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► working because that's what it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► like to them who so they get mad at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► frustrated with the with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► inversely proportionate to the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► understanding they have about how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► thing works and you're sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► listen you're just asking me to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► something that does not it is not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► just now that'sthat's to abstractions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► that duel you exactly now that it's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► completely not paradoxical but contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► me maybe paradoxical on the one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► these fucking computers don't work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► then on the other hand what the fuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► these components computers are supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:24 ◼ ► to be able to do everything and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6264">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► you're making the same picture night you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► but they're really that you're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► saying different things you're saying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► the one hand I knew this thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► bullshit like I know this government is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► crooked and screwed up and off and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► that isn't doing it but oh my god the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► government should be able to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► it's the government and they've got all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► that money right now but those are both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► those are both you know could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► potentially true and it's at me you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► absolutely right it is it is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► government doesn't work because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► government works we would all be living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► in undersea cities by now who you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6295">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► why would there be why why are there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► port and Eisenhower would have made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► yeah we should we should all be living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► in Atlantis and the fact that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► means the government doesn't work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► it's like do you really not understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BmEM0MVlw/6311">TS</a>]