Ep. 54: "This Is Not YOUR Kennel"
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hello I John hi Merlin how are you I'm
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yeah are you okay this is a little bit
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early don't boo me you sound you some
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faraway so far away you are far away
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you're in California
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yeah well you know I don't want to break
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the fourth wall as they say
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yeah what happened did you get a new
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microphone um I no no no
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same-same microphone i think my uh i
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think one thing my hearing I mean I'm
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getting into that like Pete Townsend Bob
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Mould thing where I yelled tinnitus
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No No thank God knock on what I don't
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but I've got I the range of what I can
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hear is does not include the human voice
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anymore
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OIC i think so many towns in my baby
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time to talk about that that's the thing
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is when you stand in front of a high
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watt for well many high watch for that
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many years it's it's ironic that the
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range as you know i'm not an audiologist
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but the range well thank you doing what
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at the range gets knocked out is very
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close to the range of human voice yeah I
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find even more specifically the range
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that gets knocked out for me is the
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range of the female human voice it's
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hard to hear women I wasn't going to say
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anything but especially when you're
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alone with them
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yeah right or they have some things I
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want to talk about me and the matter
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they get the harder it is to hear them
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yeah LOL they're like me can I have that
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I have a couple of things that I'd like
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to talk to you about
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it's like what huh and you have to get
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I feel like I've asked you this you
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don't eat tinnitus you know after years
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and years of standing in front of not a
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high watt but uh but other very loud
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amps i went to a bachelor party a couple
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years ago did I tell you the story
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although this is that yeah that's right
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of course you do you shot the gun
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shotgun with your thing off a guy shot
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the gun and I had my headphones often
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and it was like a I've had I've had a
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ringing in my ear ever since I forgot
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this isn't that now again that's an iron
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inside the irony
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no not the kind of the kind of hearing
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loss you get from a gun how does that
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relate to women doesn't change anything
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about how you understand the whatever
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the better gender whatever they want
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yeah it's definitely definitely inhibits
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my ability to hear them complain about
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gun violence you know like that because
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i'm sitting around as I'm sitting around
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cleaning my own guns and they're like
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you should have got to the house you
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have a small child i'm like i don't know
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i can hear you mumbling had my dad had
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bad hearing because of all those years
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he claimed flying airplanes making the
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world safe for democracy statement is 45
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seconds 45 and so he didn't have he had
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bad hearing he had he had your uh
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earphone what are those things called
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hearing aids but also even your memory
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goes a little bit after a gunshot to the
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latter deck he could hear my sister
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couldn't hear my mom he heard me fine
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but i have i have a voice like a French
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ok gotta put your fist in it haha that's
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one of the hardest hola
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that's one of the hardest system is to
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play you know that French horn you know
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it's that in my opinion the French horn
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is the secret weapon of pop music if you
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put a French horn on a song because yeah
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I think it was John Entwistle I memory
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serves one of the first probably John
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whistle toots whistle and you have to
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get guests George Martin had a lot to do
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with that you don't look at actually
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just bust out of french horn and play it
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you reading
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who booked right now or something i'm
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sorry you know Roger Daltrey was a short
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man he was
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I met Roger Daltrey but i think we
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finally reached the point where
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repeating its so you came back from
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Europe and you had trouble with the
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zipper on your bag and your father
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uh so you know what it's a joke that is
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funny i think i do I like I'm imagining
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like a graph of the various Hertz's
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or whatever and I do think it is the
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higher end of the human voice that i
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have the most trouble with i'm not
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saying that's just ladies it could be
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whiny people I sound like a broken
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clarinet i'm actually what I'm actually
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seen a graph of my hearing I went to an
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audiologist and they did a long hearing
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tests on me and in my right ear
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there is a there's a dramatic little
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spike the downward spike right about the
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right about at the aware of a female
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voices is pitch wise so you say there is
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no god but at the same time I also
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happen to have to deal with a little you
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know a little cadre of women in my own
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personal life who are mumblers album now
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or mumblers and not just mumblers but
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also like like like sentence Polar's you
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know they kind of that they like like
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kill the end of their sentences in order
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to draw you into their drug draw you
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into a pic appearing to be more
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interested in what I need human thing to
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do you at least two ways first of all
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you're having trouble hearing whatever
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they're saying to begin with
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thank you exactly been as a thinker as a
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thinker and somebody who demands
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satisfaction as well as completion route
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you're going to want to know what was
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that what was that I just I I almost
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heard something what was that I don't
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like mumbling and trailing you had
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trailing trailing is it's a it's am I I
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think of it as like a boardroom
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technique it's a it's like a the it's
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the it's the think the guy that speaks
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incredibly quietly in order to to
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dominate people
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oh yeah that they say that if you want
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to make people listen you should speak
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quietly oh it's the work I mean taken to
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a point i agree but but but taken to the
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extreme where you're like this everybody
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huh that's like that's like 10 you're
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killing me now that's like one of those
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like discount dale carnegie techniques
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you know like some douchebag hears that
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and I've met a lot of extremely
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uninteresting people who speak quietly
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because they think it makes them
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interesting now somebody who speaks
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speaks really why I'm learning i speak
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very loudly that it's i'm not saying
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that makes
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me interesting I but I've been wanting
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to single I you know a lot of people
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I've met who consider themselves
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futurists speak very quietly oh right
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because they are they don't know that
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there are presuming that other people
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are gonna go into the future develop
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some technology to come back into the
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past to be able to hear what they're so
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you know that it could be it could be
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time travelers very complicated issue I
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i thought well let's not talk about time
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travel is that such a lovely time travel
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no but ever since I saw a looper now I
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realized that when I me but he starts
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talking about time travel
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the answer is let's not talk about time
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probably heard about that that's that's
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that's a funny way to treat well i just
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read about 600 pages of a comic that was
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a long comic arc that was about time
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travel and my daughter and i have been
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reading a comic book that involves time
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travel and it always makes my head hurt
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paradoxes upon paradoxes yeah burdock
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and then of course the worst part is
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there's somebody who can explain it and
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I just don't want them to explain it i'm
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not that there never is because it's
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because he gets it's just the the
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infinite universes problem whereas
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lineup that's a big problem Marvel right
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now is just too many universes many
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universes there really are too many
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universes and marble and whatever got my
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bell here I'm touching it but I'm not
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doing it
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Marvel that's good that's pretty good
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yeah i'm a dilemma census tract laughs
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now that it's it's early because it's
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too early i had according to I have a
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little dingus on my phone that I used to
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tell me how well i slept according to my
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data system at its it's a long story
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short you put it on your bed and it and
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kind of observes how often you move
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while you slept
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which tracks to how deeply you're
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sleeping and it calculates based on how
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long you slept and how often you were
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deeply or not deeply asleep it tells you
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how high quality sleep was it would be a
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single number
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well yeah it's got like an index to give
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you a cloud score how was like is make
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like a cloud of 96 last night which is
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from usually the 60 so I really I killed
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it last night how high five
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thank you i went to bed early and my
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wife let me sleep in a little bit you
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know what happened i came back from our
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are our show and I i gotta stress bomb
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some oh I'm sorry where is it oh it's
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you know it's actually one of my least
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favorites it's the upper right upper
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right lip
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yeah and this morning I thought I might
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have one of my nose but then I realized
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that don't really exist I would I i
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don't agree i think that stress bumps on
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the nose her major wisher probably
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covered that enough that's where stress
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bumps want to be as on the you stay here
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is the human side of stress pumps i'm
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going to just talking about you know
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having getting kissed by uncle licky and
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bad girls but it really does when you
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it'sit's again this is the irony show it
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is very ironic that when you when you
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really don't get enough sleep and you're
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stressed out and you're pushing too hard
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it's if i do that for more than a couple
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days mainly the sleep part you know but
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also maybe the drinking the standout but
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really it's the sleep if I do that for
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more than a couple days there's a pretty
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good chance i'm going to get the stress
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yeah especially when i travel because I
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think may mean system is you know
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exposed has it ever occurred to you to
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grow a beard
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yes why don't you do it well that's like
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it having it occurred maybe nine feet
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tall like I'm just not sure it's not a
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warehouse uh you know my theory on
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beards that God gives men the beards
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that those men deserve
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oh brother does that ever make sense oh
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no we made it but it does yeah you wear
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the beard that you you where the beer
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that you have not the beer that you want
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L star runs felt yeah that's that's a
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really good point and so those guys i
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can remember the guys in college you
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really wanted to grow a beard and let's
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be honest the reason a lot of guys grow
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a goatee is the only place that the
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hairs will go
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that's kind of cheating it if you know
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what I mean it's like if you really try
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I'm remembering is for this is true for
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stuck with it and we're willing to look
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stupid for a year
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yes if you wait long enough you can
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almost get a beard
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I think it's true for ladies to if you
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wait long enough you'll eventually get a
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beard well in when i was in college my
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problem is that I had I had one of those
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spin doctors layne staley beards so she
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has to say about the Hat
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the same stick planes daily was the
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singer of sum of that band them doctors
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row lens daily was the Seattle grunge
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truck is alice in chains
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Thank You Allison change hey that's the
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job good job and and the spin doctors
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were that other guy and we both had was
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just worried that you might know the
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name of the singer from the spin doctors
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not a big deal but they both had that
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that beard which was they had a lot of
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hair on their on their on the underside
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of their chin you know like they had a
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big had a big face peered who but really
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no mustache they couldn't grow a
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mustache and this was my problem in
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college I would I i want a year without
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shaving and I had an enormous beard but
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my mustache was like the wispy down on a
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child's bottom and it was infuriating to
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me because I wanted you know I wanted to
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absorb the Greek beard right and I had
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this this spirit that I just I would set
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i would sit and stare in the mirror and
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I would I would ask myself like what if
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you put mascara in your mustache you
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think people would notice if you if you
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bought one of those boxes at the
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drugstore of dark hair coloring and put
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it in your in your mustache but if it is
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not right either right it's yeah that
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everything about it was wrong it was
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there was no I could have handed it i
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could have drawn it on I could have
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drawn a mustache and with with Penn
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nothing was going to look right and I
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and it-it-it taunted me my own beer to
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talk to me until i was at least 30 years
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old when I finally felt like okay you
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know my mustache is finally caught up to
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the rest of the to the rest of what's
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going on but I realized in looking back
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but that is a kind of beard that is what
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i like to call the young warrior beard
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hmm which is to say that in all those
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old sort of Greek like bar relief
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carvings
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of warriors like a Phoenician yeah sort
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of against Sparta right or a Phoenician
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you know the young warriors all have a
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lot of lot of neck beard for lack of a
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better term and not a ton of moustache
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with the moustache is how you that's
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because the day because the soldiers are
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young they are young precisely and the
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first part of your beard that grows
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around your job but in any case the the
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my conclusion was that because as i talk
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to people I go around the world as you
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know and people come up to me and they
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want to talk about beards because i have
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one and and beards are especially it's
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kind of like having a harley or a or a
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great dane yeah exactly like you
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shouldn't you shouldn't have unless you
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want to talk about it yeah I already
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tilted kilt a great date of people who
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have utility kilts happened event
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diagram is very heavily if you have is
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people with utility kilts and people who
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like to talk about utility belts and the
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Venn diagram is that one perfect circle
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yeah yeah I've never been talking about
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utility kilt it doesn't wear one of the
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six that isn't excited to tell you all
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about it but but also excited to tell
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you about it with a certain amount of
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smugness you think so i can overthrown
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and get a brownie vibe from a lot of
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anyone tell me about the benefits the
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SNP's well the benefits but there's a
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little bit of it there's a hottie aspect
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to someone with the utilikilt works like
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I you know like either you know what
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this is and you're and you're asking me
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about it because you're teasing me
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oh right or you don't know what this is
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in which case we clearly not a member of
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the tell it was like having a tattoo on
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your arm in rings mm where you go oh yes
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i see you recognize that these are ruins
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but you probably don't know what it says
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right it says oh so where's the but but
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but I've realized that that almost every
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guy when you really give him a given a
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safe place to talk
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he's going to express a list of
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reservations about his own beard haha
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haha attaching over here and he may not
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have ever mentally made that list but
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when pressed like you wasn't rest it's
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just like you give them a safe place
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you're like oh you're trying to grow a
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oh I like you're being so it's like at
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the telling this the Scoutmaster story
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you go somewhere it's okay to have that
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conversation here yeah and they're like
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it comes out i started pouring and here
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where the mustache doesn't connect to
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the pro12 is mine that's right touch
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that's mine
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there's a hatch over here that doesn't
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fill in or this or that and everybody
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has these these really small things
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about their beard that to them they have
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amplified to be these like these
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disgusting Ludacris holes in their beard
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that that that basically preclude them
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being able to wear one it's kind of like
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a hirsute anorexia
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yeah it is a body dysmorphia dysmorphia
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I used that word yesterday to talk about
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George Lucas that's a great word of hair
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George Lucas has this sense that he has
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a slim neck all this Congress slim he's
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like experience like that like he has a
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bad beard to pay because he thinks I
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think he honestly thinks that helps his
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let's see it's the andrew dice clay
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problem where andrew dice clay just kept
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making his sideburns sharper and sharper
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to accentuate a jawline that was that
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was coated in a in a developing parka of
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fat but Georgie what happens I always
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assume the pointy side burns were some
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kind of like I want to come back to this
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whole idea is I think there might be
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something nearly phrenology like about
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what we learned from somebody's beer
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that they can or can't grow but I like
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date rape cause point es sideburns
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oh no I think pointy sideburns are
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certainly in anybody that's over like 35
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is just like the just like the George
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Lucas thing he is trying to architect
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some shape out like a horse perspective
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right it's like oh no this is where my
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face ends and my neck begins with a
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beard think that's people get this soul
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backward and and I I remember like for
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example like a lot of times in in high
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school like when girls are learning how
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to use makeup they use it like backward
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it's where they go there they think it's
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all about building up rather than
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contrasting and so when I want to wear
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in high school is really populace
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there's blue eye makeup it's called Cole
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like koh l and legos will always brings
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out my blue-eyes it's like will know
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what looks you makes you look like a day
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after hooker like it just makes it just
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makes you look super weird you're not
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contrasting that right
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it's like people you know what I mean
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like people like George Lucas I think he
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doesn't realize what he's really doing
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is saying hey look I gotta do lap down
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here it's not now in some men sometimes
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pointing at it rather than then he's
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creating they were here sign for his
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yeah I feel like if George Lucas just
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let his beard grow down over his
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bullfrog neck has no chin that's the
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other problem is he has no chin right
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but that is that is one of this like the
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top four reasons guys grow a beard to
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look like to have a chin
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yeah did you ever see a picture Jerry
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Garcia without his beard now know is
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it's freezing let's think about falling
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off that foot goes face goes from his
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nose to his Adam's apple there's nothing
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in between it's just like that goddamn
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shame but well it isn't because he
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discovered that if you grow a big beard
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you look like Jerry Garcia one of the
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most iconic rock faces of all time
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if you say so so there I've known a lot
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of guys that had no children grow a
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beard and they were handsome God States
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oh yes you're absolutely right you're at
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you know what you're absolutely right i
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I have a good friend that like Sachin
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and has a very strategic retreating
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hairline many he does he does well with
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both you know he's not he's not doing
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that truly farcical kind of come forward
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like it's pretty believable
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oh he's got a little hairdo you're
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saying monuments george clooney made the
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Caesar thing you don't like okay well
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thank God like we said is on five shows
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but start guide you can shave your head
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yeah i think that is that is the
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greatest diet is like the gay rights of
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hair it is so great that's ok now to say
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you don't want to shave my head may be
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involved maybe I'm not probably fall but
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I'm i look really cool now let's honor
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today not not in person but I saw it on
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the Internet where he he was bald and he
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shaved his head and then had stubble
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tattooed on his head in the in the shape
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of where we're a full head of hair would
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be growing and he'll hear it really haha
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had a lot like John's is pulling it off
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I'm gonna be looked at it looked pretty
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tough huh
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he did but so you're saying your friend
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with the comb forward
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yeah as creative as a what what you
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could unkindly call a weak chin but he
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looks great you don't think is a hideous
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freak or anything like that but you know
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you're onto something extremely
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interesting here and and we talked about
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phonology before there's some other
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things we talked about where she was the
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other one but we can tell a lot about a
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person by by by other things they say
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and do I don't go nuts but but I you
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know I was it was was it that was your
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I forget what it was but is one of you
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you are getting very close your job your
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job you're like lack of security
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huh understanding saving for the future
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but my feeling about a beard is that one
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of the things that as a student of
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beards for many years if you if you open
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up a fashion magazine men's fashion
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magazine all the models now have beards
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and a lot of those beards are very
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patchy like that's kind of a look if not
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the law in the kind of like young guy pv
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yeah young guide pew be patchy model
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beard is a calling all the pdx isn't
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that kind of important thing before you
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get the giant beard you know because
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you're late for 25 and you're playing
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acoustic guitar being earnest you got
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have a beard right thing a cheap you
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beard so you've got that you've got the
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the sideburns the mustache the chin the
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other physical acapella cos and this is
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this is this is in some ways an
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incredibly fashionable way to wear your
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beard and also it is a like like blue
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eyeshadow which blue eyeshadow is meant
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vessels to the skin that a young girl
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their oxygen deprived blood
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right under their skin and that conveys
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to us unconsciously youth and vitality
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did not know that
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so a little blue eyeshadow is what old
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older people use to mimic this like this
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this youthfulness and the same is true
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with the patchy beard so my contention
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is that older gentleman or rather i'm
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not calling you old but rather to say
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men who have attained their their agency
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if you are lucky enough to have a youth
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full patchy beard I would wear it with
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pride food because those of us who have
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a beard that goes basically from
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underneath our eyes to somewhere in a
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chili which is where my beard ends chili
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we don't have the option I would have to
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mhm i would have to go in with two pairs
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of of scissors and some toenail clippers
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and a you know in a bottle of bleach to
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make my beard look patching I see what I
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i think i understand it looks like a
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beaver pelts my bird
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ladies I am I love these gentle bells
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about you're just reaching out you could
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you just touching you just like let's
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like I was appreciating our better show
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how good your microphone skills are and
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I think that's important you watch that
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feist when that face sings that lady's
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got Mike skills she don't see your house
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or quiet just a couple of different mics
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too and she's amazing but I mean I wanna
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get that way with the bell I don't care
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if I can't say that matter i just like
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the idea this Bell being something where
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I have a little bit of subtlety
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I like that yeah well and we we
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perfected at our show the other day the
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pic clam bell the ponk i like the idea
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of honest I don't know why this is so
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interesting to me but you know in our
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post age of reason age you know we would
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never look at something like phonology
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and go like this technology is still
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around until the late or early 20th
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century but the idea that there's these
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things about you know what it was we're
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talking about stress bumps we're talking
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about like this says something about you
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like morally in this online medieval
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and because you know there's no place
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you can go where a stress bump is going
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to be accepted know if you go down to
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the local firehouse
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yeah wine tastings they're gonna shun
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you kissing girls even if you even if
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you go under the embarcadero people are
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like burning trash in a garbage pail
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you're like hello my friend they will
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share they will share their hooch like
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yeah but you know the idea that it's
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funny because i have a face I have a
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when I shave and get a haircut i have a
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have a pretty classic like guy face i
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got a big got a big chin i gotta-i gotta
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ja I do have beady eyes which I'm
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himself god this is the thing about
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thank you know you have a handsome miss
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well I don't know about that but it's
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funny how like you know there's all
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kinds of this happened for years and
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years and years to show people pictures
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of people like say do you trust them
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you know would you trust this person and
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so forth and and I like the idea that
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the beard you deserve because the beauty
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deserve you think about is going on the
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face you got which is in some sense the
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face that you deserve
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that's right exactly right so you submit
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the cigarettes and you start getting a
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little wrinkly right you I don't get a
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terminally to choke you and you get
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particular hemorrhaging in your eyes you
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know everything that you've time is
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going to have some kind of an impact on
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how your face looks well and I think
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this is that this goes to the dysmorphia
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of of that we all have I think from we
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spend a lot more time looking at other
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people's faces when we do our own with
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of ourselves
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I EU and I know a guy I've mentioned
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this before who is a who is a man with
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the with very distinctive looks but who
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I've always contended in his mind's eye
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pictures himself looking like a young
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Johnny Depp who and so or Morrissey
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because these were these were faces that
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he he fixated on and then what would
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that caused in him was every time he
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caught a glimpse of himself in that it
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in the reflection of a style right he
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would be newly horrified horrified for
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the first time
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a each time like that brutal brutal
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cognitive dissonance
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yeah that he realizes he's walking down
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the street is like I am looking like
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Johnny Depp and then he looks at him
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somebody goes ah and end it and it was a
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reinforced it was a constant like
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reinforcing trauma that get it gave him
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this kind of the skit the schism in his
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mind about what what he looked like he
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he thought he was more hideous than he
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was another one and then another the
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solution to that are are easy or or
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happy because it what do you do I mean
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there's the John Rocker approach of
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one's gonna keep staring this goddamn
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earring so I don't care what I look like
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I'm guessing over you could say maybe I
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mean on the other end you could be a
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little sophisticated simple maybe I have
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to just accept that I don't look like
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Johnny Depp or you could just quit
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catching yourself in years
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mm well but the problem is we all want
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to i think we all want to imagine that
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we are good looking enough you know 444
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whatever our circumstances are and
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through it's the rare person it's it's
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the right person that doesn't think they
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are almost good-looking enough you know
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what I mean like yeah it's very rare
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that people think like I am truly
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hideous from top to bottom but but where
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were we always find ourselves wanting
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just that that extra little push over
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the over the hump where we would be good
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looking enough that you know to pass and
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the reality is we're all good minutes
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this is the this is the classic thing
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that you hear from people all the time
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when they get to be in their thirties
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and forties and they they look back at
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their youth and they say I thought I was
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so disgusting when I was 18 and now I
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look at every 18 year old and they're
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all beautiful
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yeah like it's just being 18 is just use
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your intrinsically you gotta really get
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to about that a few weeks ago that that
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I liked a lot and others about how you
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look or weight or something like that
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that it is absolutely true that's why
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it's one reason teenagers are so
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insufferable you know it's like you know
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the age you know youth being wasted on
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the young kind of thing but but you're
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absolutely right because and we're
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obsessing over a different thing at that
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point right
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our always seeing is our our seeing is
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our deficits which are in restaurants
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respect
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should be fairly minor when you don't
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see that you have things like energy
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right and you haven't been broken yet
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right well and I think I feel like the
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same is true of being 40 years old I
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mean at 40 years old
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you can as you say study the study the
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way a person has lived by seeing their
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cigarette lines and there and the beat
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of the way that they're evil has
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manifested itself on their face and
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their gnarled knuckles and in my hand my
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case the fact that they're chewy wallet
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all the all the teeth that they got
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knocked out when you were a young person
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fighting in bars started all that starts
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to come home to roost but in fact being
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being 40
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I mean that is the dare i say that the
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prime of life who and when you look when
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you look at a picture when you when you
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when you read an obituary of somebody or
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you're reading their autobiography the
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picture of them at 40 years old is the
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picture of them
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yeah you know like there's there there
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are the pictures of them when they're
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young and the pictures of them when they
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were old but the picture of them that
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rep you know how they are who they were
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it was always you know when they were 40
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or 50 i think you're right i was i was
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reading I my knowledge of Leonard Cohen
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is really spotty so i was learning a
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little bit about letter con last night
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and I was looking the pictures of him
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when he was younger really weird-looking
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yeah he seems so different from the
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pictures of like what i said and now
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it's old now like he's an old guy now
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but you're right the pictures of him
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like in the like the mid to late
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seventies or whatever or like like
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that's what he looks like
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yeah that's him Paul Simon you know
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actually cause I was always liked where
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there's never been a time Paul is
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possibly did look a little weird
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also I'm is a little strange isn't it
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yeah he's a he's yeah i mean i kind of
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most admire the bridge over troubled
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water let's just let this hair go crazy
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part but it always weird when somebody's
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enough to make it all about baldness
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always wear to me with somebody called
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for a while then they stopped be
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involved
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hmm you know what I mean there's that
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time we're like okay I'm a guy is going
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bald might try a couple tricks and then
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suddenly like you got hair but let's
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pictures of Paul Simon like on Saturday
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Night Live we had
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like no hair no hair and suddenly he's
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got here he's doing he's doing a pretty
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pretty profound comb-over come forward
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and a lot of those I think you look at
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you look at elton john i was thinking
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about this the other day I saw a picture
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of Elton John in them in a magazine and
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Elton John's John is an age now where
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his face is really starting to go and
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and i was looking at this picture of him
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and I was like oh he is starting to look
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like Queen Elizabeth you know there's a
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certain kind of certain sort of man that
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as he gets older he just starts to look
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like a matron you know we started like
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the Queen Mother even x except that he
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has this he has this hair its little
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furry friend up there it has this hair
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that's like the sort of the wispy like
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red hair that uh that I you know on a
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young Irish lad would have and so I'm
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looking at this picture and I'm erasing
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the hair in my mind and realizing what
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Elton John actually looks like it's like
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Judi Dench he he he he does look like
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Judi Dench he looks like a ball judi
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dench anyway he's a beauty a remarkably
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different looking person if he had just
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let himself go polled and I think maybe
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less of a pop star you know he is we
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have all accepted his hair for the most
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part and it it is it's camouflaging a
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multitude of sense you know that you
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know the poker player daniel negreanu I
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think I think I think you mentioned him
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yeah he's a Canadian poker player I up
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for a long time I want one before I
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eliminated cable TV from my life I used
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to watch hours and hours of televised
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I don't know why I honestly don't know
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why but i would watch it for hours and
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of all but most poker players i have to
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say when you watch them on TV for very
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you realize like these are terrible
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people these are people these are people
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who would be if they were not
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millionaires from this game they would
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be sleeping on a on a twin size mattress
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with no sheets and they would be just
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just pulling a blanket of dander over
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the winter chill off but now they're
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millionaires and there they haven't done
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anything different insurance i'm sure
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that that a lot of these poker guys they
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have they have one or two changes of
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underwear like they're just
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reprehensible but daniel negreanu is
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this guy from Canada who is kind of it
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he is e he wears his hair he's balding
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guy but he wears his hair pushed forward
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like a in this Greek it
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greek-style out here and uh over the
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years as he's as he's gotten more famous
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and has made more money
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I've watched him go from originally
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he would just comb his hair straight
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forward and then cut it off at his
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eyebrows but he's he has developed a
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style because he's obviously paying
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people to to style his hair now anyway
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he's my favorite this is this looks very
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this is one of those things that like a
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look at beautiful pastry that was
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probably very complicated given what the
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results look like this looks like a lot
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of work with because he eats if I'm
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looking at what you're talking about
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he's obviously a bald man who's doing
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things with his hair
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let's start there and he's got its kind
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of wispy but it's kind of like a fun
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youthful tousled look exactly fun and
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youthful skype later my wife calls this
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the hips to come forward
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yep we have a mutual friend has one of
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these and that it's a look
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it's a look yeah and I get the fact i
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get the sense also that he spends a lot
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of time in Montreal even saying so
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you're going to get a lot of it
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your hair is going to Montreal is a
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place like let's just start with France
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who there are a lot of things you can do
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in France that you can't do anywhere
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else in the world doesn't age as well
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yeah and be a guy be a 40-year old guy
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who dresses like a a a like a what am I
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trying to say like a butt plug
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I if you take that if you take that and
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you translate it to Canada and you put
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it through the Canadian filter where
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everybody in Canada looks like they are
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an extra from an early episode 21 Jump
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Montreal is the place I think in north
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america with all night really was more
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French than France like hyper french art
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thing they they're so but well they're
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like AI think they're just of their
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permit angry and they're mad they're mad
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at everybody including themselves
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yeah that montreal that Montreal is mad
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there are places in in Quebec and even
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Northern Ontario where they speak french
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were there much matter then in Montreal
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they're mad at montreal for not being
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true enough wow it in the end of in the
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francophone world i think there is a
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sense of as you move away from Paris
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people set people get madder and madder
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about how about how untrue you are and
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and quebec city is mad at montreal
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quebec city feels like Montreal abandon
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them but there are places in Northern
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Ontario which is not so they're outside
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of Quebec but they are french-speaking
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towns and they're just so mad
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they're mad at their mad and everybody
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because they hum what the night was
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we're looking for Dave watered-down the
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language and culture by allowing
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anything and it's not super French no I
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think it's more that they feel that they
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were they were a bit in canada the
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French feel that they were abandoned by
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France to the uncertain fate of first
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England and then canada and so you know
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the the motto of Quebec is Jim suvi ends
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I I will not forget my room I i will
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remember i guess that i think it
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translates roughly as how I'll remember
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yeah right and-and-and-and really really
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I feel like it translates as we will
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never forget how you fucked us
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and it just moves you know they're there
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madd canada because they don't feel part
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of Canada there Superman America because
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we are just the worst but they're also
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mad at France because France abandon
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them and their man at the they're mad at
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the people down the block who have
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english signs out in front of theirs to
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let alone the entire world that size
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them all this problem please the world
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the so sacre bleu
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so anyway the but-but-but-but part of
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that I think the two places in North
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America where you're going to find the
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worst men's fashion or not worst but but
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opportunities for men to dress in ways
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like for instance with hyper distressed
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jeans better than also be dazzled you're
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going to find that in Mexico City and
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yes just related that the canada is the
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is like the pilot for 21 Jump Street
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yeah basically yeah where the where the
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fashions are our what a Hollywood set
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designer in the eighties imagined
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gangbangers war you know like people are
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like oh yeah this is edgy and cool and
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groovy and hip like a lot of gangbangers
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are going to be wearing Mohawks right am
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i right that's what gang bangers do they
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wear Mohawks right okay i can the
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Terminator kind of but a lot of these
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are but a lot of these actors you know
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they have another gig later on in the
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day so we can't give a mohawk so we're
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going to give my fauxhawk with gel so
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they can comb it out and go do the do
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one life to live before the neighboring
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soundstage so it's all this kind of like
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punky edgy but the book but but mostly
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crafted with gel and bleach it's very
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I don't I don't I don't just like it I
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don't despise that I think it's I think
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that it's there it's like hard to the
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Caribbean the keynote day on the ground
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you is his Canadian yes and I'm trying
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to I'm doing everything I can to learn
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everything I can about him just from the
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google image search
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he doesn't have he doesn't have much of
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a chance honestly now he was he wears
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headphones and it looks like he's
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getting a massage maybe while he's
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playing
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he's wearing the same baseball hats
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advertising something did these guys
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were these guys like Nascar looks like
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they were a lot of things with little
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ads and logos on yeah they figured out
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pretty pretty fast that they were on TV
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and they could make extra cash by
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putting pokerstars.net on their hat what
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is spoken by should just go to the
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internet and find out people people play
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poker on the internet for for real money
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um I had a friend i have a friend who
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decided that he was that this was his
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job he was gonna be a poker internet
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poker player and he'd be playing 25
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hands at a time and it becomes a traders
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like this guy's you just suddenly decide
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they're kinda seems like easy money
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yeah and and and ultimately i think when
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you're playing twenty hands of poker at
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you're not invested in anyone of a man
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becomes kind of like playing solitaire
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you're just you're just a you taught
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yourself kind of the odds of all the
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different hands and you're just playing
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the odds and over the course of a whole
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day of doing that you're up you're up by
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fifteen percent or something and that's
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it consists of how did you did he add he
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makes them go off it
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I don't think he's still doing it
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frankly because I think a lot of those a
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lot of them are like 25 cent games I
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don't think gambling would still be
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around if it was that easy to win
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hmm interesting theory well blackjack is
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the only game poker poker is an outlier
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because it has a human factor unlike any
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other game but i guess i'll be back
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around I don't know but I mean blackjack
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is the only game where you have even a
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as i understand it have even the
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slightest chance of winning against the
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house my senses Bacharach is the is the
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one where the odds are best in your
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favor is that right yeah because there's
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because there's a i have stood around
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many baccarat tables and and you know
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elbow the person next to me and gone
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what what what is that what what the
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hell is happening and athletes baffling
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to me and they go well see this line
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over here you can bet against the
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earlier bet and that line over there you
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push the push the
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push the BET to the next bed and then
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that's how you beat the odds because
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ultimately no then then you have 51
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percent chance of earning something I've
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had it explained to me a dozen times
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I've stood next to a baccarat dealer and
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asked her as she's you know as she's
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doing it and she's rolling the dice
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whatever tell me what you're doing
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explain what's happening and she's like
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here's how it goes it's really simple
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fifth and then she explains some you
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know 15 paragraphs of up of like a space
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math and i'm not going I don't know what
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that was i'm not going to throw my money
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down on a table where I don't understand
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that's how that's probably a pretty good
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ruling gambling if you if you don't
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understand how money is made and lost
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you're better off not to bet here's me
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at a casino I walk into and this is why
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I hate Las Vegas yeah I walk into a
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casino thing doing meaning all kyon ki
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see it's all happening already
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I'm like uh-huh okay i don't want to sit
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over there those people don't look
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interesting that guy's disgusting the
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village and I end up over at the at the
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the slot machines the one-armed bandits
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and I go well I'm here I might as well
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you know and I put five dollars in and
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it goes boom me up and it gives me
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someone number of credits and I pull the
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arm until those are gone and i'm like
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done that's it
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I I spent five dollars and I feel even
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that I didn't get my money's worth and
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then I just sit and watch people smoke
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you know and in fact i have i have a
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pretty good time in casinos because I
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have a pretty good time until i see that
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little old lady with the oxygen tank and
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the and the right popcorn bucket full of
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sinks down into my stomach and I'm like
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not have to go now I did a gig in reno a
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couple years ago and then I got there is
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it you know RINO's even Reno
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yeah you don't think it's not just one
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big assistant
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yeah well I got there early and I check
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button you finally get actually I'm
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sorry to get back had to wait to check
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into my room because i'm fucking
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military event was there and motorcycle
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races and all those assholes now well
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like it yeah they hadn't planned well
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for it so there's a lot of movie people
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in line waiting for the roses circus
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no no this was a tennis anus i think was
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the name of us
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oh yeah it'sit's off-strip the odds are
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a little better there who doesn't get in
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the hole and and so I was I had some
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time to kill someone all I can go over
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here and go to this bar area i'll play a
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little bit of blackjack and I can I can
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smoke here so i'll go and I will smoke
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while I'm waiting for my room and I'll
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have a drink
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this will be fun you know I said okay
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this is good you had it in you travel
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and you know easy when you kind of
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arrived much you through all the main
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part of travel it's kind of nice to just
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relax and be where you are and I was
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like okay this is great i'm gonna get
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into this i'm not gonna be me
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I'm not gonna be all stand back and look
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at it from a removal guy and just be
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here and talk to people and hanging out
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and and it wasn't long before I saw this
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is you know I think probably late
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morning and i saw a woman they're doing
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slots while she rocked a baby seat with
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her right foot blue so get her baby was
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there she was on like one of those
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stools and she's with the right foot
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she's pulling into the right foot she's
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like rocking a baby in a little Marcy do
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yeah I am through from ya i dont time
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did the thing is these guys these
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gambling guys they just think they look
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they look like terrible terrible people
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let's get headphones are you allowed to
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wear headphones while you're playing
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poker I think so i think you can do
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whatever you want because it's a because
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while West but but i might what I like
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about Daniel grant McGraw know is that
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he he has developed his it is developed
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his talent to the to the point that he
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can this is one of his tricks he'll go
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around the table and he'll tell
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everybody what their hand is and he's
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remarkable oh it's a whole nother level
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of bluffing
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yeah you it's remarkable how close he
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can get because he knows he knows the
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cards that have been dealt and he just
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he looks at your face he knows how your
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bring any he what they call puts you on
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a certain hand and I imagine playing
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cards against this guy
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there's nothing illegal about it there's
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nothing illegal about him saying I bet
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you got a king queen don't you and
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you're sitting there with holding a king
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queen imagine trying to play poker
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against that but I say is like two
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levels of blessings on the one hand you
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know it isn't like you're being provoked
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because you can you can sit there with
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your stupid d sunglasses on and stare
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but when somebody says that to you it's
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going to be hard not to have some kind
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of reaction right and and so dead so
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daniel negreanu could have a 24 offsuit
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content but you've got a king queen
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don't you all in and then you're like he
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knows what cards i have and he's going
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all-in he must he must have two aces or
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whatever and then it turns out he he
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didn't know what you had and he was
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bluffing and you're just like so and he
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does it with a kind of Mary he's jesus i
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think he's a small man i can't tell for
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sure but he strikes me as a smaller guy
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and he he just I don't know he says he
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looks like amongst these guys he looks
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like a nice fella he's a little bit of a
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leprechaun I follow him on twitter and I
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don't know it's one of those funny
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things where there aren't many
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celebrities that I said I care about or
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try to attract their attention but i
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have replied to daniel negreanu tweets
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on a set on several occasions hoping
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that he will reply interesting and i
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don't know why i don't know why i care
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about this guy have seen him on TV i
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watch them play poker
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I feel like his mind is working a
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certain way that it is not akin to my
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night it's not a he's he's not a guy
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would maybe even naturally be friends
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with money is my money on the internet
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so silly
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the internet yeah i'm sorry i'm online i
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have to admit I'm a little bit off my
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game because now I'm consumed in these
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pictures of poker players I've been like
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at somebody's house you know it is you
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go to somebody's house and they got the
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mm I don't know what this video plastic
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on their cultures they are not back in
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everybody did that but when I was a kid
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you just wouldn't have the TV on when
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somebody came over right now if it's the
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babysitter or something and you've got
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that as like establish TV time that's
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actually kind of a good transitional
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thing but you go to somebody's house to
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get the TV on you know you can't really
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say we did not have the TV on the TV is
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going to be honest and the TV is this is
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the evening and sometimes people you
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know talking about em and and and it'll
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be something poker and I just I i watch
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people watching poker and I'm like the
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joke is to be like watching glitch
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people watching darts you can I think
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I'd rather watch darts easy i don't i
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want all these people who died in a fire
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I don't want any of them to win they
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just are awful people starts at least a
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sport it's absolutely a sport
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yeah well I'm a guy that if I walk into
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a restaurant let's say in an airport or
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anywhere
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yeah where there's a TV on and there's
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no one in the bar
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I just walk around and turn them off
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yeah that is right back the other day
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we're right under that the TV and it was
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like CNN just blaring of course
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yeah i mean if if I can turn them off
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there are some airports now where the
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tvs are it not in the bar but they're
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just throughout the airport absolutely
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every gate
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yeah and the TV just blaring CNN like
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you're saying and oh my god I can't
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think of a worse thing I'm similar Seto
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scared of men are scared to be alone
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this is scared to feel alone Diamond
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Dogs demon dogs
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here's the other thing back around like
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I as a point when I was looking at james
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bond movies and I thought I should learn
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more about background I tried to read
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the wikipedia page i thought this has
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got to be the most confusing thing I've
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ever heard in my life
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now I know you're not at the stage quite
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yet but i want to plant a seed I want to
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hear how it goes when you wear your
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little daughter start doing stuff I want
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to I want to hear you how it goes when
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you try to explain baseball
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oh this with a baseball field right by
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our house and we went out to watch
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baseball and I don't like to be like
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explaining dad that big truck is
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carrying dirt for making the road where
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people who cares about were sitting
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there watching and subscribe to be
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dinner plate is in the sky that big
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truck is carrying tar for the road
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that toner is made out of a cool
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distillate look over there do you see
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that man he's my pole you know how trees
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grow woman oh you doesn't it seem a
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little bit more a little bit warmer you
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wearing a trench coat but you were
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explaining to her well she's in there
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and there's like a baseball game go on a
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really terrible baseball game i think
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only terrible teams play at our park for
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sitting there watching them in there we
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know walking around and I i don't i
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don't want to be explained things
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stupidly to my daughter went dumb things
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down but I tried to explain baseball and
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every for everything that I could
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explain it required either more
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explanation
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yeah and or something that contravenes
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what I just said
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right right right so there's these 90
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America's game america's pastime
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there's nine there's nine people out
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there and that guy's going to come with
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the bat and so that got pictures gonna
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throw the ball and try to hit it easy
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okay well if he hits it he has to go
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around all the bases right i don't think
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most baseball fans would would describe
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that as an obligation
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although I guess it is this is delicious
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has to have to he gets to he has wait a
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minute you're saying he had the
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opportunity to run the bases you don't
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have to do anything he doesn't want to
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he doesn't have to but you choose to
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play different positions if you want to
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in baseball
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it seems like it's got a lot of rules
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for example they got they got all the
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different positions you get first
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outfield you know left have different
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talents so first baseman and other
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obstacles just this i know i just i
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think you can have to stand in a certain
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place and stuff and try to explain and
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so they throw the ball and if he but I
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mean how do you explain a foul ball with
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a full count
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mmm those a strike but it wasn't a
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strike right
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ok so that was a strike we'll wait and
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swing at it as well rules
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wait wait wait that's wait hang on a
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minute so there's three balls and I'm
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speaking for my daughter who ya this
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point not be able to take it and
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understand any of this
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so there is why this is why I didn't
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fully understand baseball until I was 32
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it's incredibly complicated if you
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really think about it but I have the
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advantage for for several years they're
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going to baseball games with our good
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friends Jason Finn and then other times
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with ben gibbard and both of these guys
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are super baseball thing
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Alice adjacent to Jason Jason used to
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score the game's he would he would do
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that thing that old men to make it a
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piece of paper and a piece of been
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offensive and you'd score these fucking
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games and he would explain everything
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that was happening as it was happening
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and it was like me sitting at a
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background table
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I'm like well not now i will now what's
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a balk and he's like well here's the
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thing about a balk hardly ever happens
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but that about and he would explain what
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a balk was and I had to see like 13
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balks before I kind of got got it you
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things he also says that Erica but but
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but also I you know what these guys
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communicated to me it was through their
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love of baseball Bob bends and jason
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said that they love baseball in
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different ways but you know they they
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they communicated the kind of like Greek
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drama that baseball is and made me
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understand that you really don't
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understand the game you can't appreciate
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the game unless you're also really
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following the players stories you know
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these guys would come up to bat and I'm
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thinking he's going to hit some
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baseballs thrown at him and then one of
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them is going to either hit or not and
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Jason's like not this guy got called up
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from the minors after 15 years of
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playing triple-a ball and for the new
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zealand you know ocelots and and this is
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a real Cinderella story and I'm like
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cinderella story right I hear that a lot
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what does that mean he's like yeah this
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is amazing this guy here boy here you
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know he had some injuries last season
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and so all that all that extra material
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that they're bringing into the into
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every game where they know the narrative
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of each one of these players right and
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they're bringing that that you know
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they're bringing those narratives into
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it and and all of a sudden you feel like
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oh it's the freaking Iliad to these
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it's like you know here come here you're
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here comes this guy who's from like he's
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a guy who used to play for the opposing
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team and he's coming up and he's back
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home for the first time for sure here's
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a guy that got drafted right out of high
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school and and and I see there are other
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coaches getting
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old and this might be his last you know
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season stuff like that right or this you
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know this picture this is a pitching
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duel and end you and your eat you
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realize like how they are seeing this as
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a clash of titans like the Etruscans
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against the Phoenicians like it isn't it
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isn't just a bunch of dumb overpaid fat
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kids out there running around running
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around a field that's like this is this
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its all full it's all laced with
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metaphor for a true fan over uh and and
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I'm not interested in things I wish I
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could i I totally intellectually
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understand that i feel that way with
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comics but you know and and things like
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TV shows i've gotten into but it's I
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can't get past the fact that you guys
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think that nothing is not the fatter the
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rich it's just it's just it's so I just
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I just cannot get into it and I know you
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don't want to begrudge people liking it
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but i begrudge how much it is forced
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down my throat all the time it drives me
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it made me realize that the in my
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private moments walking around the city
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the things that I am enjoying about but
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you know my little private narratives
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are also kind of laced with metaphor and
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full of full of metadata that other
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people don't have access to and you know
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I'm walking around I'm like oh this is
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like the other day I was in an airport
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and it was just I'm just navigating an
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airport which I've done a million times
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and it's late at night on the only
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person there and I wasn't trying to make
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it fun for myself I just started I just
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started having a spy adventure in the
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airport by myself because I don't know
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why because there is no like I'm in the
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airport and a couple of I walk through a
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couple of pneumatic doors and all of a
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sudden I'm all of a sudden I'm trying to
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lose a tail and all of a sudden i am you
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know trying to get some microfiche with
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something something chips off your
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spidey sense and even jokey spidey-sense
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you go oh here we go and what I'm having
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and then I'm having fun and I'm and I'm
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seeing I'm seeing all all the it in all
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the airport hieroglyphics I'm seeing all
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this other
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for information and I'm and I'm
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remembering you know the great the Great
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espionage stories that kind of make up a
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part of my imagination and I'm passing
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the time I guess consuming because
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aren't you also you're looking for means
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if it grass you're looking for who you
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can count on the ball you always you
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when you're at the terminal you're
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figuring out who you're going to take it
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out and you might be able to get on your
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well i'm thinking like okay there's the
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security door watching the watching the
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janitor come and slide his little card
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and the door opens and I realized that
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is the way I'm gonna have to get out of
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here and I so I'm gonna take that
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janitor down and can i yes handoff and I
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never mind one of those uh you know
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cybernetic things and that is that is
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essentially I guess what people are
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doing when they watch baseball
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it's just they're not there they're
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imagination is engaged in a different
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way they have a different paper a
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different set of the different a
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different group of material is going
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into the function machine and that's
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coming out the other side has a
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different at different shapes sausage
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links but really they're just using
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their mind to pass pass the time since
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the game is the game that's happening on
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the field but there's another kind of
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game that's happening in somebody's head
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yesterday I watched 12 pitch ins
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fighting over some bread and I pick a
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side like I want that guy to win right
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right and I turned on the world series
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the other day and I don't care about
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Detroit or San Francisco frankly as a
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penance for sports teams go
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I love them both is six the argument
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here I'll get but ah but I i'm watching
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and i'm like okay i'm rooting for
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Detroit because I feel like Detroit is
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the perennial underdog in everything and
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then there's a the matter the San
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Francisco guys have a story there was a
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guidance from on the San Francisco team
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that literally had spent his entire
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baseball career in the minors and had
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just gotten called up last year as an
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old guy and now he's pitching in the
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world series one year later after how
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the story he's like yeah it's a internet
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it's an incredible cinderella store and
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so i'm watching this thing and every
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time somebody comes up to bat I'm like
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well i hope this
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I wins and I'm the worst sports fan in
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the world I'm like I'm like I'm like
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somebody's girlfriend i hope this guy
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wins I like his hair like their hats
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I hope it's definitely like that with
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the Olympics you know they're always
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trying to insert all this like oh you
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know drove her at 5am yeah swim practice
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every morning
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yeah and a lot of those lot of those
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Olympic montages what I come away from
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it with his like oh you know what
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terrible parents
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he can't mention that they really do
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that like the girl that won the combined
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gymnastics thing it's like well we
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wanted her to succeed at this so we sent
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her away
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I haven't seen my daughter in two years
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because she's benefits gymnastics school
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in Iowa I can't afford to go there so
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I'm here working to make the money just
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to pay for her to be at this gymnastics
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place right now I don't get too serious
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she's only 13 or something and I was
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like I didn't feel like they were
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terrible parents but I just felt like
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wow weird like weird priorities
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yeah that's because things like running
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fast by themselves are not that
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interesting but this girl won all these
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Olympic medals and the rest of her life
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shall be the one that won all those
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Olympic medals he meet her party will be
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a little envious
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you know it's like having an Emmy and he
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got it Anita she's basically the Olympic
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he got i think i do something similar to
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this day I had never thought about
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thought about in this way until now and
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our boyfriend's got simpsons pointed
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this out to me that I'm I'm kind of
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suspicious guy like I'm always trying to
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like what's not quite right here why did
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I decide to do it that way or and I do
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this constantly and I don't even really
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think about it and I definitely think
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about how weird it is until I find
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myself saying it to somebody else
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mhm it could be something like it's kind
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of weird they bust all the tables in
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this place twice but they haven't plus
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that table yet one that is and then I
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start thinking about well maybe the
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Busboys mad at that waiter maybe they're
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expecting the person come back and and
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then I know I'm suddenly on the spot
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right so I'm always noticing things in
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my in my room in Seattle
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hmm that's interesting it used to be you
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always had many bars in rooms and now
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you don't see many bars very much
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anymore they have a refrigerator in here
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but not a minibar I wonder why they did
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is it because it's it was just people
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were asking for reversals on charges
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it was too costly to restock with their
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liability problems and now suddenly got
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an hour later I wake up you know in a
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cold sweat and I've been thinking about
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this thing for an hour and that right so
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for me I I'm very sympathetic walking
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around an airport IC IC especially in an
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airport you know because you got nothing
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better to do
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yeah you just like getting no no you
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just you're gonna like fine little games
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for yourself
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one thing about airports is there is
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that there is that under class of people
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who are in the airport all the time they
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work there who is not i would even say
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underclass but there they are a
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sub-class to the like the airport fills
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up with people it was those other from
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Middle Earth but there but here's that
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here are these people who are always
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here and you don't notice them it's like
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it's like a at this at the public market
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i remember i was down at the public
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market here in Seattle with with
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somebody who's visiting and there was a
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native american guy who was panhandling
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kind of right in the middle of the
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market and this person said oh my God
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look at that it's a real Indian
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and I said here surrounded by Indians
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here in Seattle there are Native
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Americans all over the city and they're
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like what really
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and I said yeah you're not seeing them
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and we stood there in the market and
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looked around and I was like look over
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there see right there and all of a
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sudden they became aware that they were
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Native Americans all around us and they
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just had never had never that they had
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they had grown used to because of
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wherever they grew up or however it is
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that this happens but they just didn't
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see Native Americans because they had a
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sense that any time they saw a Native
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American that person was going to be
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either panhandling memor or judging them
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wherever your head yes if there was some
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so they just stopped seeing them and you
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realizing that that this is kind of a a
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place where Native American culture is
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existing simultaneous with Seattle
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culture but in a way like a separate and
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and people just don't they just change
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their the focus of their eyes a little
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bit and they don't they don't see them
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people in airports that are there all
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the alt all the time and you don't see
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them you're looking for your gate you're
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looking around you don't realize that
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there's this other culture happening
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that's always there
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well utilize if you're like oh hello and
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you always think about it of course from
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your point of view so the things that I
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first noticed a lot when i first visited
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now are really different and this is
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really psych 101 stuff but i think it's
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incredibly interesting
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you don't even see the vomit you can I I
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the thing is I I don't even notice the
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poop i walk around the poop without even
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seeing it now I know it's there but you
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know again like my spidey sense but but
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I mean this is one way to start feeling
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a little bit more alive in life is to
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realize how much
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stuff you chunked you know you agree
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chunking and heuristics and algorithms
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account for so much of our existence
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that if we were to really stop and think
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about it it would blow your mind
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how many things you've jumped like a
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great example of my daughter and I go
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away from streetcar there's a multi
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multi multi-ton vehicle like you go to
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wait for a BART train there's there's
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something flying by you at like 40 miles
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an hour
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this joint and you're like four feet
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away from that like what kind of
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frontier guy would feel good like
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standing next to a giant piece of metal
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flying by 40 miles an hour you have a
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bitumen yourself to that because it
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hasn't jumped off the track and killed
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you yet
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right right that's more than I mean the
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whole bunch of these where think about
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the way you drive to work now in your
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case you don't have a job and you always
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drive a different route so that's just
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in and of itself makes you more alive
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but I mean and I think that's what
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happens with me and this is my own
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probably mental illness and it's why I'm
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very sympathetic to crazy people is I I
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sometimes wonder what's the pattern here
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that I haven't seen yet
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that's i'm really i'm almost obsessed by
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that like why did you choose them like a
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marketing message why did you choose to
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put that ad in this place with that
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wording of course a lot of this probably
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means next to nothing because it's just
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a bunch of idiots probably but I I don't
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know I I my life gets better if I let
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myself slip away some of the chunking
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and re-experience that and sometimes
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that's what travel is you know I want to
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get beyond the airport even but you go
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somewhere and you try and see something
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a new including yourself and that means
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instead of saying well here's all the
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things here that are weird and here's
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all the things that I can't get here
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right right you know there's other
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things I can get but don't want and
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here's all the things that I want but
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can't get Tim's Tim's biscuits wonder
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what that's a chatty chatty room where
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they call that to drink it
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that's a tea drink it i I don't know why
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this is and I because this isn't true of
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anybody else in my family I don't know
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why why I'm like this but I do
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everything I can to break my own
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patterns every day like I know when I
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put a cup of coffee in the microwave
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I never cheated for the same amount of
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time no way
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yeah because Manuel you
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manually choose be a lot of times well
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one minute two seconds i had when i met
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my daughter's milk in the morning I've
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got down to a science because i realize
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we have a quick minute button right
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quick if i get about like Alec the I
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feel like the quick minute button is the
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is the enemy
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holy shit on vichy of consciousness I'm
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you know what I'm complicit because what
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I do is I I know here's the thing
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it used to be that I would go to didn't
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get it set for like 52 seconds or
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whatever I said wait a minute if I had a
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little bit more milk to this cup I can
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go i can hit clear quick minute and on i
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hit tip right number three buttons and
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I'm making milk
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there you go all right but I'm a little
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less alive aren't I well this is this is
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why I take a different route into town
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every day
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partly had at well just want to lose the
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tail right so much we said too much but
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i but i also like in the process of
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taking a different route to town every
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day I've been down every Street in the
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city and you know there are there are
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there are your accruing accidental
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benefit all the time from breaking your
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own pattern Andrew and I you know the
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pediatrician when my daughter was born
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said you know children really like
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patterns they like regimented sort of
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thing they like to the dependable day
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who as though this was like you know
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this was a pediatric 101 and i said to
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her i was like well that's just not
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going to happen
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um so we're going to have to if this is
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true if kids like this kind of certainty
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then we're gonna have to find a
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different way to to to impress upon her
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that things are certain in life but i'm
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not i'm not going to make her this make
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her breakfast at the same hour every day
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it's just never going to happen and that
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little bit of pushback the pediatrician
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was like oh well I'm sure that's fine
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I was like oh it's another example of
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people saying shit where they don't they
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and they don't mean it
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there's no no like real basis for that
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or even if there is I mean that she read
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450 papers written that represent the
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450 different studies that people have
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done that have come to this conclusion
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turns out but turns turns out they're
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just a bunch of studies that people did
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on some group of kids in a room it
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doesn't mean anything
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every person is individual and you might
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have you might have 400 kids at all like
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they're there Elmo doll given to them at
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the same minute of the day because there
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Elmo dolls always been given to them at
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the same minute of every day my daughter
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is almost too and she has she has so far
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exhibited no adverse effects to living a
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life that is almost one hundred percent
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spontaneous and try to on you try to
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push the envelope I mean is it a
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different sized Elmo different color i
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missing and then back i mean if you I
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don't i'm not i'm not yet experimenting
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on her in that way although its
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underlying off so will surely come but
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you know what
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when she's ready to go to bed it's
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obvious and when she's ready to wake up
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we all wake up like I i remember i would
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we went to buy a car from a from a gal
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who just had a this is this was back
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when i was buying a lot of cars
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she just had a baby and she had a couple
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of older kids and we were buying her car
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and her her new son was like what a
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week-old something like that we were
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like wow that must have that must really
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change things for you I mean that's
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leave gotta you've got a couple of boys
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you know one's five and 13 and they got
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this little one its root must really
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gives you know must be like crazy times
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right now and she said about the infant
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yeah well he's got a couple more weeks
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where he's kinda can do his own thing
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but then he's gotta get on our schedule
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and I was like whoa haha yeah yeah
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couple of weeks to you know just be a
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two week old and he's gonna have to get
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on their schedule and and I think
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there's a lot of people live that way
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you know you gotta get on my schedule so
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but on the other hand tu you i-i've like
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I'm hearing two things here are you
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saying that you you're not going to
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create and Hugh to a baby centric
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schedule correct
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oh no no I i well
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I i went the other way I think I think I
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think we all went the other way which
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was that I don't have a schedule so it's
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the baby schedule right baby schedule
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one hundred percent for the first year
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for life and now her schedule is when
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she's with me
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it is whatever happens and when she's
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with her nana of course
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mana is on a schedule oprah is nana is a
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is a lady who is on a she's he's got a
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dog that needs walk she has beautiful
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beautiful garden to keep up
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yeah and she's on I mean she's on a much
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more of a schedule than that I mean Anna
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is on a schedule where she is rotating
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condiments and stuff where it's like oh
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it's march six teeth huh that's not a
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new zesty Italian that's the day when
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the tartar sauce moves from the top
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shelf of the door of the refrigerator to
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the middle shelf because you got to keep
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everything on it
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everything's going to happen i have such
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a funny you know it's easy to become a
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smug parent because that's it's right
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there in the name parent you are you
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become smug but when you hear people who
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are you know you know you can like
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scheduled a c-section and stuff like
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that and not for medical reasons but
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just because it fits your schedule
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yeah yeah I mean you know whatever I
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teaches own but it is funny to me when
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somebody has that kind of attitude of
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like well we're just gonna you know get
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this as though it's a puppy who will
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eventually learn about the paper
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well you can't have parent without
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errant whoa right and I sometimes forget
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how much you're here to help pair
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read em and let you know it's like yeah
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you know what they would have everything
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planned out you want to have everything
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all squared away and it's like they're
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just you know especially when the baby's
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little yeah you know I think a lot about
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the game and dogs mechanics just how
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line with their red eyes they're just
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nipping at your heels and i slept pretty
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well last night but I still feel a
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little bit out of it today i did some
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stuff this morning someone little
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confused
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well sometimes sometimes getting a good
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night's sleep can actually make you a
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real fuzzball
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oh this is working through difficulties
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were going through a sleeping right now
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she's a like well anyway I came back
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from from our trip we should some point
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like you too
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yeah I don't you were amazing see you
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really were your truth teller you you
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wouldn't you wouldn't say this time
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young was you i would not bullshit you
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would avoid it
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your your game changing that you did the
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game-changing that you accomplished I
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mean you changed a lot of games that
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night and I was proud of I was proud to
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be on stage with us proud to share the
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stage with you
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well you called me and i remember i said
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the same thing an email you don't
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believe you coming fact I said gay get
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you coming yeah yeah nice anymore
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fingers like let's say please use that
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turntable last word
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yeah it's yeah I feel similar ask why we
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should talk about it we should we should
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just about that a little bit later but
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all i want to say they came back I was
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tired I could tell us get the stress mom
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the night before last
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ah you know sometimes i'm usually
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superdad hundred percent attention
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don't look at the phone don't do
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anything you know and I think in some
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ways that's been a not great thing in
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some ways because that means whenever
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dads around with you play with that but
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that's the playground off work forever
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more or wherever you know what i mean
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but it was like five o'clock two days
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ago and I was like you know what we're
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gonna read a little bit and then we're
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going to lay down i'm going to sleep
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you may either go to sleep with me or
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you can go in another room and be
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extremely quiet and she ended up falling
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asleep and she slept like 830 mhm so of
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course now she goes to bed at ten as you
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probably know from how this stuff goes
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now that throws everything off thats not
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even you can't Bank up sleep with a kid
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right it throws off the clock
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it's when you tell you trying to tell
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you you're single I'm not single but
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you're on one of childless friends about
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something called sleep hygiene they roll
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their eyes and think you're being on
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Northern California but your kids not
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sleeping everybody's fucked right it
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really i mean somebody's going to bear
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the brunt of that there's going to be
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some caregiver that has to to deal with
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when there's not sleep in place and so
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that's why I think it's funny when
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people are like have these ideas they
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read a book or something and they're
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like all y'all we're gonna get them on
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the gator game on the schedule of of
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this and that and especially when the
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little it's just that's it it's really
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weird it's like trying to train a brick
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you know it's it's like you really think
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that's gonna work i mean you're gonna
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like you're just gonna frustrate both of
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you and
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not necessarily going to make it better
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I think you provide favorable conditions
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i can't i'm not sure if he said he said
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this recorded this is my friend Jeff
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Dean once in the way he has approach to
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design is to make it easy to do the
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right thing right and I'm not believe in
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this so i think if you create instead of
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telling your child to be honest
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instead create conditions in which it's
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hard to be anything but to want to be
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anything but honest right if you want to
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create if you want to get to sleep
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create a condition where it's easy to
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sleep in the way that you want which
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sounds subtle but i think that's really
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really different from go get in bed now
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is creating stress because now daddy
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schedule says it's time for you it's 725
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so it's time for you to go be in bed and
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if it's 726 now we're both mad
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yeah there's a there's one there's one
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bone of contention in my family right
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now which is that sometimes I feel like
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baby has to sit on Daddy's lap oh and
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sometimes baby doesn't want to sit on
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Daddy's lap she wants to get down
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uh-huh and I say and the end and there
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are a lot of people in my family who
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feel like baby should be allowed to do
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whatever she wants and I said they had
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their chance i say this is this is true
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baby has sometimes in the day when she
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was allowed to do whatever she wants but
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there are times and this is one of them
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one baby needs to just sit on Daddy's
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lap because and this is what i always
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come I always come back to what if we
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are in a hidden train compartment and
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the Gestapo is checking documents does
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baby get to get down and run around so
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like what you like Darion like a like
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hiding in the floor type situation
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exactly you have limited space and it is
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a this John hate to keep bringing this
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up by the last episode of mash it just
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keeps bringing me back the last episode
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of mesh they're sitting there in the bus
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they're about to be discovered by the
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North Koreans em all right and and and
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they're in the back on this bus full of
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the civilians and hot guys there and
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this baby remember the baby the baby the
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baby the baby's crying and crying and
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crying and that's revealing that
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position
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yeah now that that is that with much
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respect to to a simple village woman
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never rehearse that no she had not she
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had raised a baby that thought it was
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okay to just go to a baby once that's
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right that's right am I on the right
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track here this year preparing for
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something much larger than having a
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healthy child
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well this is what happened in that
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terrible Quentin Tarantino movie The the
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one where they shoot Hitler in the face
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400 times how the the angry chisme you
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have a baby under those the baby under
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the house makes a sound oh so here's the
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thing if you have a baby you need to
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prepare that openings that opening
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selling that was great it was a great
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opening sequence the rest of the movie
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was a particular age for shit but the
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beginning opening sequence could have
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been a whole thing that was very well
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done but uh but so so my contention is
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and I have to I have to hold have to
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hold the women in my clan back with a
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saber well I'm holding baby on my lab
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because they because babies crying and
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they want to make it better and so I
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keep them at bay with a saber in one
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hand and with the other hand I just say
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behold your daughter fast I said baby
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let's say you're too young to understand
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this but let's say there's Gestapo
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searching this farmhouse we do not this
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is not the time to play this is the few
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minutes where you just sit quietly on
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Daddy's lap and she fights and screams
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and yells and I'm like fighting
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screaming yellow you like but when that
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moment comes we will be ready we will be
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trained so this is so you don't think
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about this thing about how you train a
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police dog first of all i gotta say John
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I'm going to start doing this today and
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I some and more often than not will
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probably be that you need to go in
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another room be extremely quiet because
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the Gestapo might be coming
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that's right I'm but you know it if you
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train police dog
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you don't just take the dog into a like
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a drug house and have it smell for drugs
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in the house right you do all kinds of
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things you have used to all this
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training first of all you've got to
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train the dog to like be a police dog in
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general you gotta follow orders and then
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don't you let the stuff we haven't
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sniffed things in a field and it has to
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text off and you're introducing things
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and getting more subtle subtle subtle
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yeah it has to be it has to be on voice
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command because you can't have a police
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dog that's just that's just that's just
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by don't just throw it bag of weed and
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take you to the airport
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it did some training
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yes it does and that's what you're doing
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it seems to me that what you're doing is
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you're doing the you're doing a kind of
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I don't know allied power parenting
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yeah that's right and then Anna think
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anybody gives a way that train it's not
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going to be your daughter and she she is
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understanding that in her whole life
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there's only one person that is that
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drug that ultimately caused a big line
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the fatline for the saber the fatline
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with the slaver in those in the sand
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which is there is nothing now that you
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can say or do nothing that anyone can
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say or do that will divert me from this
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project of you sitting quietly on my lap
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you could set yourself on fire and I
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would hold you in my lap until you've
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burned to a cinder
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I will kill your mother and my own
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mother with this saber rather than let
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you get off my lap
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does everyone understand good that you
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sent you send a very clear message about
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how this is gonna work
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that's right now let's also quietly and
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let the Gestapo pass and it is very hard
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for everyone to to to swallow this
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bitter pill which is why I carry a saber
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every father should every father should
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be AI think its own United I talked
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about the guy went to school with who he
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sold sold Snickers bars and and bottom
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Marshall amp this time if I told you
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this but the other part that his dad his
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dad was the head of the k-9 unit at our
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Sheriff's Department have attorneys
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ok so it's Phil's dad who really really
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cool interesting guy
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i I don't know that's like I learned a
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lot from this guy he was he was a really
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cool really smart guy and and so he's in
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charge of all of the guys who have dogs
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and do dog police stuff and apparently I
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mean he said any kind of interesting
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things but the one that really stuck
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with me was you know first of all these
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dogs go and live with the police officer
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yeah like it's
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it's not their pet but I mean that they
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have to have a very strong bond oh
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they're bonded right right but there's a
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lot of in and so then after it's a weird
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thing because they're not just watching
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the dogs are also watching the dude
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because these are fucking Rottweilers
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Rottweilers and what Phil's dad would
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say to me is that I i am getting old i
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think i'm repeating myself but he said
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you know a Rottweiler it's like a marine
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like a Rottweiler will follow every
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order to the letter you know from the
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chain of command but it also knows what
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to do when there's no order in place
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it's like a come to commando dog which
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is great but here's the problem if
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you're not smarter than your dog and
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you're not more resolute than your dog
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that Rottweiler will run your fucking
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house you'll never have a life again
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because the Rottweilers bigger than us
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stronger than you and in some sense it
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is stronger and it is also smarter than
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you and he says that's the thing is we
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would we go when we monitor these guys
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we train them which we test out both the
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about the character as with the beard
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you learn so much about the character of
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the police officer right now trying to
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interact with this dog and just seeing
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how their dog is you know you got you
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got you got one is little nervous people
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with three chihuahuas running around
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there's a pretty good chance it's gonna
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be a pretty nervous person at the other
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end of the the cord
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yeah well because because the because
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the human being has introduced all these
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variables all these concepts all these
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irrelevant concepts like I that they
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want to be nice
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does the dog like me all these things
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that never occurred the Dodgers wants to
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know what the rule is yeah the dog wants
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to be the ones we please you don't want
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to please you want to please the packets
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that dog was to know its place in a pack
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in my pack
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yes actually it a dog it's this is what
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this is john god dammit this is another
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thing people need to learn about yes
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dogs want to please us that is their
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nature but they want to please us
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because they think we're the boss not
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because we're nice
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oh they have no interested in pleasing
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us to earn our friendship
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no no no and they did that dog is not
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happy when they think they might be in
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power or maybe not
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they're happy when they know who's
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running the show well this is the
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interesting thing about our show the
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other day
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we did a show in seattle with five guys
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all of whom are alpha type people
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well some of us are more often some are
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more alpha than others and as much a
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shower the panel that the well both on
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the same group of people and jonathan
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coulton at one point said listen you
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know I don't want to get in the middle
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and start tangling with you silverbacks
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that's fair but he was making a point
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that there was in that show
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there there are all these and mrs. that
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this was part of my desire to get five
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really talented people together and
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collaborate there are all these
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questions of of like ape dynamics that
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nobody wants to address not only think I
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was pretty good at being a beta dog you
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were there you were awesome scott
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simpson was awesome i think in my his
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are given i think given my history and
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my end my pack problems as a human being
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I think I I'm not even out of my
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performance aside i think i was i didn't
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i didn't complain unduly about the
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tuxedos after it was a done deal
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no you you acquiesce to the tuxedos is
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what you did I did I got down and lay
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down my back and I said please don't
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hurt me
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he rolled over and put all four legs in
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the air to show you here okay don't get
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a dog you get a dog it starts acting up
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you know what you do if you're strong
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enough is that you just wanted a puppy
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you grab that fucking dog you put it on
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its back and you hold it down with it on
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its back
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that is the way that you show a dog
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who's in charge
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yeah like mom climbing into the herd
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good dogs kennel what my mom
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periodically what periodically makes
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Gibson breaks all she's racist or its
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she makes him get out of his dog bed and
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she climbs in and she lays down on his
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bed and she stares at him into guys my
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I know I ok I've accepted all of this up
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until now there's no way that your mom
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does that one hundred percent and she
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says I let you sleep in this camel hold
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this is not your camel and Gibson goes
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and she's like all right glad we had two
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glad we had this talk and she climbs out
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and then he goes back in
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I mean he understand and order order is
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established and you know it's funny
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though is also you know she was a
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computer programmer
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it's weird how many computer programming
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jobs go off the rails because people
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don't act like the code base is a shared
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resource they act like it's no you know
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what i mean like i get back to the bases
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ball like if you started going out there
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and thinking it was all about you just
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you know what trying to look cool while
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you're swinging the bat or a while it
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was about you trying to make eyes with
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somebody in in the stadium off sounds
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silly but you get your ass kicked
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because that's not your job your job is
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to go out there hit the fucking ball
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right you know what I mean the order the
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order must be restored and and oh my god
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is it is it a covered kennel
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oh it's a full-on crazy she cast a climb
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that's one of those igloos it's a good
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fucking English she climbs and I got any
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glue you use service la years old you
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get you you should see her you know show
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I i have watched her walk down the
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street late at night ahead of me you
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know i'm trying to catch up to her like
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mom you shouldn't be out walking she
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walks right into the center of like them
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what what in some cases could be
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construed as the most intimidating
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scenario which is to say a group of four
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teenage some say them sync between 15
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and 17 year old gangster still like
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street corner hangout see desperate with
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people desperate people who have no idea
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what they even have to list their
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teenagers they have no they have no
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sense that they are mortal and they are
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all wearing gang colors and they're
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standing on a street corner in the
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middle of the night in the middle of the
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hood and my mom will walk right into the
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middle of them
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and say I think that it's reprehensible
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that you just threw your candy wrapper
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on the ground or something like that and
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I'm you know I'm a block and a half
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behind going well and they they
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straighten up
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I mean I've watched it happen they're
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like yes ma'am and pick their candy bar
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wrapper up off the ground she's one of
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those if anything it's like I said it's
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a frank beautiful thing there are some
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people who just have a certain way of
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carrying themselves and have that
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principle feeling and if I did that I
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like I couldn't ikea you might be able
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to do that with some Authority but
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you're also big and intimidating your
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mom's not a not a giant person
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yeah but those kids wouldn't be
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intimidated by me you know that by
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it's my size would just it just would
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just encourage them to go on on the
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defensive attack help my mom just it's i
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would I think what it is is that we all
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have in the back of our head this switch
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where you do it your grandmother tells
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you you know and I feel like that that
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oh yeah i think i think that was kind of
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Secretary of State Madeleine Albright
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see Madeline Albright yeah attractive
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lady j beautiful voice she turns out
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term turns out the was a Jewish lady is
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up you know what she found out late in
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life that she's a Jewess she found out
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late in life that
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yeah that she had this whole culture so
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cultural backgrounds and no idea about
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her whole life in Nana's so so so you're
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but here's the thing that between
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without naming names you and certain
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members of your family are someone at
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loggerheads on the saber and baby
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holding issue it is believed by these
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women who are not you then the child
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should be allowed to go to stop it from
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crying it should be allowed to go wander
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around well this is the thing i don't
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believe that they are i don't believe
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that they are approaching these matters
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with up with the long view and they are
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responding rather to a crying baby
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their instinct is to take a crying baby
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and through
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heading and goldfish crackers and
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whatever other things that whatever
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other sort of a sorcery that people
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applied children they want to make the
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crying baby to stop they want crying
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baby tutu go away and happy baby come
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back and what what they fail to
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appreciate is that crying baby has no
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effect on me like I really it is the
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power is the power I have in this
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situation which is the difference
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between crying baby and happy baby is is
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a math problem to me not a an emotional
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so I can sit with crying baby on my lap
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for an hour and I think it's important
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that it happened to visit their shots
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equal no no I mean it's exactly like a
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vampire
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it's exhausting but crying baby is
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sitting on my lap and she is saying
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she's saying crying baby is what I do
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crying babies who I become when I want
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the situation to change and I say I know
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that's what crying baby is and she goes
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so I am being crying baby and the
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situation is not changing and I go
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that's right and then we look at each
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other and she keeps growing our
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strategies to cry more strategies to cry
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more and to end and and I and I swear to
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you you know the women in my house are
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tearing their hair out that sometimes
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they have to leave the house because the
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because this you know this sound is not
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being because this sound is a sound that
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needs to be addressed and I am NOT
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addressing it although I am addressing
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them i'm addressing it by saying here is
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the thing you are going to sit on my lap
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and you can do it crying or not you can
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with this can go a thousand different
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ways but the thing that isn't going to
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change is that year he I mean you're not
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going to get down and it's not it's not
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a thing that's not a wrestling match
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it's just a but the crying is not going
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to produce the results that you're
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expecting in distance in making you're
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making a stronger person that made it
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may crying may work for you and a lot of
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other and a lot of other avenues but I
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know you don't have a wet diaper I know
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you are not uncomfortable i know you're
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not hurt I know you're not hungry i know
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you're not scared you are just
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dissatisfied and dissatisfaction is a
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thing that we are going to learn to sit
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and appreciate you can store it up for a
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yeah dissatisfaction is a thing that we
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should we should savor it like a like a
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like a bloom up because all around me
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there are people who have never learned
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to endure dissatisfaction and I do not
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admire them
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uh-huh so that's the part with you is
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like eat you you do demand satisfaction
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but you deny yourself it seems to me the
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immediate payoff of going name and i'm
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going to write a letter or something
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like that you you let that sit and grow
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and strengthen right you're in training
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you're in training for the for the
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demanding of satisfaction what what what
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maybe what made walking into that north
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face so exciting to me was that I had
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had I've had two and a half months of
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discomfort that you know I could have
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thrown that backpack away the second I
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got to a town and bought a new backpack
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in a store but i did not i carried that
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broken ass backpack for two months I can
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you know what you like and you knew i
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was going to get work is going to get
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oh it was going to get worse and i knew
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i was gonna have to fix it with with
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thread and bailing wire i knew i was ID
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and i knew i knew i was going to carry
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that thing for two months and I was
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gonna carry it all the way back to
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Seattle and I was going to carry it down
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and I was gonna throw it on the floor
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that store I knew that was gonna happen
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and so every time it dug into my back
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every time that backpack
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every time I had to take it all apart so
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it back together
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it was just like and then you made
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everyone in the store sit on your lap
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then I made everybody so sad but I got
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my satisfaction
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i get i get mail from people all the
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time saying I'm trying to get
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satisfaction will you help me
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well you know you but not in the way you
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that's right my feeling is I'm not gonna
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help you get satisfaction right you but
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I can help you by saying I'd like one
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hundred percent support your desire to
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get satisfaction that there was a
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somebody tried to social network me the
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other day I want you too will you
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retweet my dissatisfaction
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oh they want you to be a social media
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fixer yeah I'm not gonna be your
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megaphone you know if if part of your
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dissatisfaction is that you are not you
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are not able to socially mediate your
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problem with these people
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let that be another love on your fire
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you could really become i mean i-i need
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all the time for something like this
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nowadays but you could become a kind of
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coach you could you could become
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somebody knowing i'm just saying i gotta
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know what it's just something to think
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about is you could you could i'm not
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saying you have to hold the monument
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that maybe that could be maybe I could
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be just the first week or so you come in
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for an hour and you maybe maybe you know
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how about this you go to their house you
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shake him out of bed
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yeah private get out get out of my bed
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laying in bed you can make him watch you
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make them watch you while you sleep in
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their bed when they're tired and
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confused
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stand at attention to the foot of his
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bed and watch me sleep my bed I let you
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sleep here watch me curl up with your
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little watch me turn your pillows towels
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that's it's a riffic idea because what
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you're what you're saying in some ways
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is it's funny there's that there's a
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again with the irony the irony of
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holding her in your lap and I'm the
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thing I proved that I think it's an
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interesting idea but a but the idea is
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you're teaching her that this is not a
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situation that will change
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it's not about her being sad it's about
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acceptance yeah right well it's about
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acceptance and it's about understanding
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that in this world in the world that she
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lives in there are people who are going
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to make decisions that she that where
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she is going to be consulted necessarily
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right and that is a thing that that the
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argument against is that it disempowers
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her but I want to be perfectly clear at
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least in my clan that total empowerment
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is not what I'm what I'm after
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in the case of a two-year-old like
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empowerment is a thing that you earn
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overtime as you overcome obstacles learn
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and accomplish things you become
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empowered empowerment is not a thing
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that you are born with and then that the
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parents job is to get out of the way of
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empowerment is a thing that you learned
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some of that is that you become
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empowered by knowing that you were
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disempowered or that you were that there
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were tremendous limits on what you were
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able to do any as a young person so I
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mean there are some of the shrieking
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that's happening
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some of the shrieking that necessitates
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that I carry a saber while I do this
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stuff is around this idea that i am that
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somehow by holding her on my lap I am I
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am either being a bully or I'm teaching
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her that she doesn't have autonomy or
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all these other questions and I'm like
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the first of all of the the thing in my
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family that I'm not worried about it is
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that she grows up with a sense of
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autonomy you know what i mean i'm not i
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am not particularly worried that that
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that she will be the first Roderick
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rochester in the history of time that
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isn't a total like basically a human
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monster
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we r we r who we are a threat to human
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culture not you know not not a clog in
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it's not something you I get her don't
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get in afternoon on Daddy's lap yeah
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she's not you know she's not going to be
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anything you don't have blonde hair or
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something so but all the but all these
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ideas that you know that a two-year-old
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is learning these unconscious that the
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this idea that she's not going to be
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that she's not going to feel capable
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right because her because her father
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periodically
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made no prepare for example sir
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Institute's a regime in which she will
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be that in which she will survive a
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holocaust I do not accept this logic
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energy if anybody in this family is
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because i had a dream the other night
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after this terrible hurricane in New
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York had a dream the other night that I
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was in a car that went off a bridge into
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a river and the car filled up with water
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and the baby was in the car with me and
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I had to I had to wait for the car to
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sink in order to open the door and then
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swim around get the baby out of her car
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seat under water and then get to the
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surface of what then became a raging
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torrent I was then a raging river and i
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had to have the baby hold on to me as I
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swam in what became a boundary list see
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there wasn't then there was no Shore and
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I'm swimming in this torrent and there's
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no Shore and there's nothing to hold
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onto and i'm in my dream trying to
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navigate the and I'm not a super great
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swimmer either trying to figure out a
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way that i can make us boy and enough to
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float where she can ride on my chest as
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I'm you know floating on my back and
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we're being carried in this flood raging
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flood water and this was not a good
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dream this was a terrifying dream but it
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reinforced to me that there are times
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when baby needs to hold onto daddy and
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shut the fuck up and in and I can see my
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daughter in this situation as we're
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floating down this this delusion and she
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is on my shoes on my chest and I am
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trying to keep my head above water that
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she starts saying down down daddy down
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and it must make you redouble your your
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your saber and I rattling and in this in
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the in the case of being in the delusion
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I would have to say no honey it's just
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going to sit on daddy's chest right now
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and and you know what if she grows up
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with that which i'm certain that she
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will when she becomes a strong swimmer
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you know it what I think we run into the
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harry chapin scenario i think she says
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to you know
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yeah I'm a strong swimmer swimmer you
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will hold onto me and and then you will
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be happily lovingly the beta dog for
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that situation you should learn to swim
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better that will be the moment and the
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thing is they don't know you succeeded
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in every child's life there is the
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moment where they say no dad I am no
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longer on your i'm no longer sit on your
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lab and that is the moment when it is
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that is incumbent upon me to say you're
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right and now i am old and had cats in
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the cradle and the silver spoon we have
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to fight each other
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