Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hey John [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► hi Merlin has gone Oh busy busy with you [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► allah stacked up [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► oh I'm so busy yeah it's so busy i'm not [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► used to it you know i shouldn't say this [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► but I'm not very busy in general and [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► when i get busy it's extremely stressful [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► to me [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► yeah I'm not used to it and and you know [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► i i i i read these uh i was about to say [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► I read autobiographies of it of [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► important people but that's a lie i read [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► i read reviews of autobiographies in The [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► New Yorker who by important people of [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► important people and all these [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► biographies make a important peoples [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► sound like they are just going to go and [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► go and go and go on [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► they do they do more in like a week than [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► you and I could do in two lifetimes [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► yeah important people are just their [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► they're so busy people in Hollywood are [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► busy their pitching this their writing [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► the script there I heard this I think I [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► don't have listening which is really the [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► only way to listen to NPR and I i think [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► they said that the sitting president has [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► something like five campaign appearances [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► in the next four hours i have been five [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► places in 48 hours in my whole life [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► yeah then maybe they'll sleep for hours [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► a day and they feel rested and vibrant [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► and the way they go and I got up this [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► morning at seven o'clock in the morning [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► and I got in a car my car and I drove [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► into the town office and all the people [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► the other people were also driving into [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► the town the other people in their cars [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► and I I was appalled [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► yeah they were using my roads first of [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► all yeah but uh but all this busyness [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► and and and then I had to go there and [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► then I put the person i was i was seeing [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► was like well can you come back this [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► afternoon i was like no I'm busy i have [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► i have a lot of busyness ok so i don't [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► know if i don't know if I'm suited for [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► this [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► mhm all this business I mean I know that [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► that's what you have to do in order to [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► gets someone get the new yorker to write [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► a review of your autobiography or your [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► biography I guess [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I oh I have no interest in writing an [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► autobiography getting an office for that [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► and and as long as we're talking about [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► it i'll just say that a lot of those [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► people probably Benjamin Franklin [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► notwithstanding a lot of those people [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► have handlers they have handlers the [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► schedulers the assistance and they've [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► given themselves over and they just you [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► know basically Marie right what time and [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► what do I where they just show up [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► somebody points from somewhere clips in [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► my condom and start talking [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► yeah you're exactly right idea Ben [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► Franklin em get you have my attention [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► I was thinking I was lying in bed last [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► night and and I was thinking about our [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► coinage as you do [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► oh and a new ms numismatic coinage [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► numismatic origin and I was thinking the [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► quarter has Washington honor that seems [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► reasonable that the nickel has Jefferson [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► eminently reasonable the penny is [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► Lincoln half-dollar used to be Benjamin [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► times got rid of that right Franklin who [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► and then and then and now it's Kennedy [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► who all that seems right a dime has [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► Roosevelt seems perfectly plausible but [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► why not [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► but then you remember the old silver [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► dollar the big one the one that was the [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► size of a love of a coaster not the can [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► anyone now that's a half-dollar someone [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► the big one had Eisenhower on it might [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► the biggest American coin ever minted [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► it's like Kevin Duran Duran enemy or ax [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► any award [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► yeah it and Eisenhower on it and my [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► whole life I have I have I have accepted [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► that the the old silver dollar had had [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► had Eisenhower on and then I'll s not on [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► my bed and I was like wait a minute [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► Eisenhower is it happen see that's the [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► kind of thing like I'm sorry I'm typing [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► that's the kind of thing that would send [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► me flying out of bed to go and look it [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► up because it seems so wrong have I mean [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► I can think of nothing against [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► Eisenhower ease and I i I'm not opposed [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► I I totally remember this they were big [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► they were very big they're there they [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► are the size of the woofer in a in a [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► stereo speaker Eisenhower dollar [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► yeah and and I mean although Eisenhower [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► i think was it was a very fine president [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► and a nice man i can think of sick [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► presidents that should have been on that [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► coin before Eisenhower so it there must [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► have been some horse trading some some [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► some you know post-war sounds like a [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► champ up to me 19 first of all it was [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► only nineteen seventy-one to 1978 I'm [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► just saying that the decision had to [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► have come before 1971 the guy had been [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► dead for windy die like Earl he died not [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► too long after he left office right [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► Eisenhower no I think he lived a little [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► loopy lived a little ways into the 60s [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► uncheck out Mike Mamie Eisenhower stuck [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► around who but you know you're right [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► that was the era where 1969 he saw [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► Vietnam yeah right so man walked on the [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► moon boom Eisenhower almost almost [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► missed it by three months four months [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► oh that pity I'll come on it doesn't [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► that suck march twenty 8 1969 it was [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► july four little I was that right yeah [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► who's running this show that Eisenhower [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► didn't get to see a man walking I got [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► tired John this is this is fucking [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► ridiculous we got a stack of problems [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► first of all that I should have gotten [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► to see that we got on there for being a [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► general don't you think i think you're [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► right i think that's exactly I think he [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► got ulysses s grant type situation he [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► won World War two and that's why they [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► put him on the Bitcoin mhm and then you [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► know his eight years as president and [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► all that and that's fine too [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► shrub that really burnishes the image [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► but it's it but you know what retired [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► general that's what it was retired [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► general well it's beyond the purview of [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► this show to do a lot of research but to [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► the best ok i knowi from the past that [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► you're somebody was interested in [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► becoming a CIA operative I know you're [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► interested in what's really going on i'm [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► also equally super interested in what [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► going I don't know what the fuck [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► happened I wonder who else was in the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► running I wonder who lost to Eisenhower [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► right now who else would have you know i [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► say this you say there's probably I mean [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► and you know Roosevelt I think you gotta [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► give the guy props for for longevity and [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► and for our for a guy who can use his [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► legs he got a lot of tail [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► I think you got him credit for that you [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► know one and only three term president [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► that counts for something [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► it was only three didn't go for my mom [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► said she was a kid Roosevelt was always [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► president [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► he's just want to be with you have died [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► president it was like it was like having [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► it was like being around Victoria [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► Victoria was clean i think for 250 years [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► you just you just you just get used to [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► it that thing we do yeah yeah but they [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► don't talk about a Roosevelt Ian Ayre [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► arrow like they do the Victorian era but [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► she was Queen longer I think she also i [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► think she also stepped down on her [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► spouse as did Franklin oh well back in [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► the Victorian times my god everybody was [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► looking at everybody else's skirt you [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► think she's a tiger in the sack [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► I think that she might have preferred [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► the company of other ladies they have [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► different sack for that Victoria sounds [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► definitely have a different sexy when [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► you become queen victoria and you get an [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► era named after you I think he got as [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► many rooms and as much discretion as you [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► sure you get to have you get abs ulu [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► chambermaids and I school chambermaid it [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► the just sign them yeah that's a major [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► thing I when I was about to make a Zulu [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► sound but I don't know what that is [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► I I for one would be very interested in [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► having a dual-chamber made it look into [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► I you know I would like to boy what I [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► would do with a couple of Zulu [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► chambermaids chambermaid changes the [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► sheets they do things with debts that [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► right correct yeah there there there [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► there there with the washbasin there [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► there with the what's the name of the [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► wash basin where you go poop in the [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► night came upon a chamberpot chamber pop [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► you think she has to the chambermaid a [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► zoo or otherwise do they have to deal [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► with the chamber pot I'm pretty sure if [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► you if you have a if you are made and [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► there is a pot and your title says [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► chamber and the pot is says chamber [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► that's your that you know that is what [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► chamber is a euphemism for who temper is [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► a euphemism not for room but for poop i [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► put it this way if I were a chambermaid [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► and which great robyn Hitchcock song and [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► and I had been on the payroll for a [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► while I got have some credibility and [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► there was an opening and they were [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► bringing in say a new scullery maid [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► I would personally lobby to have the [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► name of that change to the scullery [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► pot that is an opportunity to maybe take [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► one of the less pleasant parts of your [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► jobs and shine around someone gallery [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► made is the one who's washing your [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► cutlery and your bowls and stuff always [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► down to 70 I still got her washing your [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► pop-pop's contamination [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► yeah that's like that's bottom of the [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► house stuff and chambermaid is Tom and [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► bottom of the house which is still a [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► force coloring it's probably but [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► seriously though I I feel like I feel [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► like John Adams should have a coin who I [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► feel like a UH there there are there are [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► a couple of presidents that I was gonna [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► ask you said you thought maybe like five [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► or six five or six years but Wilson I [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► guess we'll always you know Wilson's on [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► the hundred-thousand-dollar built [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► yeah and I frankly think I have some [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► misgivings about Wilson but PR there's [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► no Teddy Roosevelt coin who I mean he's [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► means i mean like a PETA thing you think [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► I think it might be i think i think [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► people might have a hard time he's a [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► little robust for today's culture don't [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► you think he is he would ski would I [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► think people would blanch your kind of [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► like the TR of your time in a lot of [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► ways that's sweet of you I i have never [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► no one's ever named a stuffed bear after [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► me as far as i know that up unless [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► they're just took a nice to ensure all [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► the stuffing your drawn in home they [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► took a knife to it throughout all the [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► stuffing and packed full of diamonds and [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► then Kari and then put it in their anus [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► and carried across an international [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► border [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► hello that movie Wow um and you know it [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► but here's the other thing that do you [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► think it's a obviously in some ways it's [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► a huge honor to be on a shitty low [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► denomination coin because there's more [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► of them right [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► see Lincoln is my favorite president but [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► I hate pennies you're a penny hater [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► I'm one of those guys why I think we get [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► rid of the nickel to I think maybe we [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► get Lincoln on to a better coin I think [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► Lincoln on a dime [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► it will be fine you know what I think we [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► should do we should put we should put [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► Roosevelt on maybe like you know I've [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► hundred-dollar bill [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► okay what if we put Lincoln on the [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► three-dollar bill because he was he was [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► homosexual right [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► mmm a little good question Lincoln [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► three-dollar bill [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► come on my work check out all the news [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► hmm i don't know hired him [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► I can't understand how you can hate [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► pennies pennies are pennies are such a [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► wonderful piece of of numismatic history [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► what do you do so is slavery like what [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► what do you do what do you do with [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► pennies put them in a jar and they just [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► stack up and you keep them in the [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► Overcash man or is it just talismanic i [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► don't i don't Cashman because because as [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► you know or maybe you don't know but you [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► probably do know at a certain point they [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► stopped making pennies out of pure [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► copper who because a penny the the [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► copper in a penny was worth [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► three-and-a-half said yeah it cost like [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► two or three times as much as the coin [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► yeah so they started making they started [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► making pennies out of zinc coating them [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► with copper but most of the most of the [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► coins in circulation that are that have [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► a precious metal value higher than their [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► their face value our people have combed [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► through their pocket change their you [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► very seldom find silver but you can you [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► can find pure copper pennies up every [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► time you pick up a handful of change [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► does it have to be a wheat penny [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► no no no any penny up until they [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► switched over to zinc in the nineties i [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► think it's clinton thing probably yeah [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► it's like it's like it's like going up [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► the gold standard except it's going on [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► to the sinks in standard tell you what [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► my one thing in my brain for every time [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► i hear the gold standard I think it's [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► exactly the same thing and this is tells [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► you the power of media is all i remember [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► is Thurston Howell was mad that we got [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► off the gold standard [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► wow really who wait a minute there's an [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► like it wasn't like it was in like the [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► sixties right wasn't uh Nixon took us [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► off the gold standard but wasn't that [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► what maybe i might be eliminated early [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► sixties it was the mid-sixties I could [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► be wrong i could be wrong but you know [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► what even my one piece of incorrect [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► information might be wrong [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► here's a question for you this is [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► something you might know Gilligan's [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► Island started off as a black-and-white [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► TV show and then it became a color TV [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► correct [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► how many other TV shows have that [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► experience it but man did that happen a [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► bonanza very good question i don't know [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► about bonanza bananas i think was always [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► in colored Gunsmoke obviously definitely [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► started I'd explain to my daughter the [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► other night I had to explain [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► black-and-white things to my daughter [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► what she did she tell us how do you [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► explain to somebody it's like it's I [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► mean it's very difficult all you know it [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► hurt one of her favorite phrases right [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► now is all brother [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► it's so boring ah yes and that's like [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► getting her Paris brushed it's like you [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► know so blog mall brother and so are [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► blowing and and and she doesn't like [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► black and white things and it's funny [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► because like when it comes to comics and [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► stuff she or you know she she always [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► favors the more colorful thing over the [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► more monochromatic things trying to tell [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► me that like when I was a kid I record [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► like I wouldn't have a color TV at our [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► house we you know they were around but [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► it was money was much more costly to [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► make things in color and had waited 20 [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► periscope is a really big deal because [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► you remember like I'm thinking it wasn't [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► it wasn't it wasn't Batman but it would [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► be like they would be like whatever [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► dragnet and collar because it was a [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► really big deal it was like yeah and [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► that the 3d of the time but you know [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► what i mean it was really real [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► I remember I remember our first color TV [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► in fact I remember somebody I don't know [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► how this happened but at some point in [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► the seventies i was given as a gift and [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► I'm talking about me personally not my [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► family but I was given as a gift a [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► portable color TV i'll come behind which [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► was the size of a milk crate and weighed [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► 445 pounds but it was a color TV and [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► portable and someone i don't remember [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► how this came to be mine but it was this [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► portable color TV and whenever someone [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► would get whenever someone we knew would [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► get sick or a relative would be [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► bedridden my mom would like poke me in [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► the ribs and say offer them your TV [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► and I would loan my portable color TV [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► which of course i had no independent [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► control over my it's not going to go [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► turn it on and watch it my mom would [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► have been like there was TV time in our [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► house and it was two hours long on [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► tuesdays and thursdays but anyway that i [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► would i would plenary list the new [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► Anderson Mike Douglas and then we turn [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► it off then you turn it off and you get [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► one scoop of ice cream one scoop of [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► vanilla ice cream and then to bed but uh [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► but i would carry this color TV out to [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► the car we would at it I would sit next [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► to it on the back seat we would drive it [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► over to whatever infirm person it was [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► that wasn't lucky enough to have a TV [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► whether this is the thing because a TV [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► was something that sat in the living [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► room and they were in bed right and it [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► was it was it was at that I don't you [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► talk about being a kid so I can relate [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► it was it was always it was weird when [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► you started meeting people that have [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► more than one TV [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► it seemed really mean it always seemed [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► like you were really rich if you had a [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► color TV if you have to color TVs was [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► back then you had a TV in your living [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► room that was a piece of furniture and [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► then in maybe like a den or family room [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► you would have usually a crappy [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► black-and-white TV on a TV table [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► uh-huh you get out you get from S&H [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► Green Stamps and have wheels and you put [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► your TV guides and whatnot underneath [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► and pictures what you're right and it's [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► not only were the first person I met [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► that had two tvs i think that i think it [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► was into the eighties before I knew [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► somebody that had two tvs well i think [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► but except for except for this this [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► color portable TV that that's very [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► costly John that's a very that's a heck [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► of an item you had their oh and it was a [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► prized possession and I don't like I say [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► it's not like I tried to give up your [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► toothbrush or something right that right [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► in the car must've been awful [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► well but the thing is i felt like i was [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► doing it this was the kind of good deed [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► Samaritan kind of thing that was [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► instilled in me by my parents like you [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► are doing a good thing you're taking [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► this TV to help a sick person and I [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► would sit i would sit proudly in the [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► backseat and think i am like a doctor [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► I am a doctor of TV have a cup color TV [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► delivery and you know and the little [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► lady we'd set the TV up on her on her [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► dinner tray and she's like oh thank you [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► so much i'll that's so good [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► what a nice TV must seem like magic boy [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► hmm i was always enemies i was i was [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► filled with any as a child I was not I [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► was not generous like that is alright [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► well no I was I was we didn't have a lot [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► and I was selfish about what we had yeah [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► and I really really really really [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► intense i really like TV like if we want [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► to load of crock pot I'd be like more [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► power to em oh I'm not gonna miss that [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► let's start getting happy days on the [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► crockpot you're good to go [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► I think I think if I was ungenerous with [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► my things my mom would take it away from [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► me if I was like now it's mine should be [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► like now it's nobody's she really do [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► that one [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► one time this is still a traumatic [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► memory for me sometime [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► she was always she's always trying to [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► get me to clean my room and I was one of [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► those kind of passive kids that was like [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► I'm gonna do it I'll do it in a second [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► and she came in and she was like I said [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► clean your room [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► oh yeah I was just about to do it and I [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► could keep that game going for six [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► months [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► I'm just about to do it and one time I [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► put all my toys in the closet just kind [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► of stuff them in the closet and shut the [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► door and my mom came in she was like you [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► cleaned your room and I was like yeah [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► she said good boy you know and actually [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► gave me like a reward praise which I [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► received knowing i did not deserve it [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► and then later I was out running around [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► the neighborhood and she went in my room [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► and opened the closet door and [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► discovered that I had stacked on my toys [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► in the closet and her response was that [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► she climbed in the closet and jumped up [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► and down until the biggest piece of toy [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► was like the size of a of a Roosevelt [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► haha that's completely bananas she cheat [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► demolished them and these were models i [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► built these were like that's that's [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► psychotic john and i like it like that a [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► lot [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► well not a lot this was this made quite [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► a shame we need to [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► yeah that's right you don't have to do [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► that one destination and she was like [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► you know and i think what she was she [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► was maddest that I had that I had misled [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► her that I had portrayed the room as [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► being clean and had accepted the [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► congratulations and she was like this is [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► what happens it is that all toys become [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► atomized and and now or now we're going [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► to start over now we're gonna start [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► start at the beginning and maybe you'll [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► get a toy Christmas also home i just [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► learned well I don't think I could do [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► that i was going to screw with my kid a [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► little bit on with stuff like that but I [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► would never actually like break them [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► wow yeah yeah well it made it had an [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► impact on it was a different time you [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► know we-we-we-we the Soviets were right [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► over the horizon because they don't [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► understand they don't get around to [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► listen more serious time it was you [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► could make models but you you sure ship [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► better put them in the right place when [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► the maid [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► that's exactly right compromise with [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► heartbroken well I was but the lesson I [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► think of the long-term lesson was don't [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► get attached to stuff [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► yeah and that's otherwise well it is [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► except that right I'm said I'm speaking [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► to you now live from a room bet that [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► looks like an outtake from storage wars [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► where where the guy emptied out of like [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► a 50-foot storage container full of [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► broken music equipment and old hats [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► it's you're like the end of Citizen Kane [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► except you've actually taken everything [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► out of all the boxes [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► yeah yeah I I made a terrible mistake [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► a few years ago when my one my sort of a [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► casual hobby of popping into thrift [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► stores and browsing around looking for a [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► couple of choice items became a [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► dedicated pursuit of thrifting as a as a [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► way of keeping the demon dogs off my [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► trail [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► you know what I mean like other this is [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► a formulation that I that I use a lot [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► but I feel like everybody's got their [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► not everybody there are some people with [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► no demon dogs at all but those of us [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► that have demon dogs nipping at our [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► heels we do things to put to keep them [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► at bay and and at a certain point I put [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► all my demon dog eggs in the basket that [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► i bought at a thrift store [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► ok I the thrift store basket that i [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► bought at the store and I go to them now [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► as a form of retail therapy and there's [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► a form of like it's that it is i use it [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► like other people use going to the [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► movies or eating it's a kind of [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► entertainment i go and i study and I paw [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► through these bins and the inevitable [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► consequence of that is that little by [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► little and I mean I don't I often go to [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► a thrift store don't buy a thing but [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► little by little I have filled up my [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► house with crap other people's to try to [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► us and and and i had its bits untenable [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► but particularly because having bought [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► all this stuff at thrift stores i know [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► it is I know the crevices are packed [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► with other people's dander you know what [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► you know most of these things have not [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► been properly deed and word well I mean [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► I try and be damned to them as much as [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► you can but at but as you know i mean [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► there's a little bit of there's a little [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► bit of DNA left [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► on a lot of this stuff i have i have to [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► guess you know [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► yeah I found I found a couple of leather [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► leather bound leather-coated globe [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► bookends that look like ye oldie globes [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► that our book ends [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► they're covered with dander i bet i read [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► a thing of the day about how people in [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► England don't wash their hands like 14 [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► people in England has poop on their [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► hands and about how even just like [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► entering a room like there's elements of [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► your personal dander that can be in that [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► room for like weeks you know [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► so let me just say this I i see i have [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► my own diamond dogs my own heels and so [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► I appreciate this i think for me right [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► now that's comics but politics but what [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► you're talking about [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► I see the appeal of this in so many ways [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► just on an existential level I mean [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► first of all there's the thing of like [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► will retail therapy as you say like you [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► but you're not going to find like you [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► know coach purses or something you're [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► not going out and saying I just need to [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► spend four hundred dollars to feel whole [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► today is much more complex than that [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► because you've also introduced a [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► discriminating taste you've introduced [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► not chance exactly but it's obviously an [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► element of treasure hunting or training [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► no absolutely but this is the the big [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► thing of it anything i mean like it's [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► coming with me my comics I like just [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► like leaf and through them and [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► organizing to do not kind of stuff we [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► should get to do and you know d-dan [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► during but but but there's also when you [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► get into that if you're honest about it [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► i think it becomes like in it if you're [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► honest with yourself you realize there's [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► some puzzle like you don't have the [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► cover of the box you all you know is [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► that there are pieces of some puzzle [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► that you're discovering and you're not [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► even sure what puzzle it goes to but [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► somehow this piece feels right and this [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► piece does not but I'm going to put it [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► over here just in case it and and I [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► think that's what happens when you [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► become a collector and you become like [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► you know a thrifty shopper i think you [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► get into a groove you talked about this [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► with one of your ladies who was like a [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► like a serious like hardcore through [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► shopper and that the types that do this [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► but I think there's an existential [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► puzzle that you're probably [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► unintentionally trying to solve well in [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► there is an atom and i remember when i [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► crossed the threshold of having [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► more than 40 brass candlesticks the [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► people in my life closest to me started [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► to they started to do that little [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► side-to-side dance where that people do [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► right before they're going to stage an [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► intervention [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► you know like doing that dance a lot hi [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► god hi oh what is what's in the bag [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► o.o more candlesticks and I was like [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► yeah check this one out [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► this one's like clearly a hundred and [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► ten years old you know and and they were [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► just they were just about to intervene [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► and say listen this is something wrong [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► with you that you have this many [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► candlesticks and and I reached up I [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► reached a point where I had every brass [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► candlestick that I I had every kind of [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► brass candlestick that I could think of [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► and I started to go to thrift stores and [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► I would see I would see racks of the [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► brass candlesticks and I would just be [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► like those are junk [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► I don't need any of that and I haven't [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► bought a brass candlestick in two years [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► hot so the puzzle the puzzle is complete [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► as was completed and i have no idea what [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► candlestick it was that i finally got [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► that was like AHA there it is the [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► missing one so it isn't it isn't a thing [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► where you have to have every brass [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► candlestick you find it isn't that [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► you've got to like you know go to a [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► drive to different towns to make sure [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► that this one you know whatever you know [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► making 38 superman comic version of a [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► candlestick is out there and you [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► they came along and you realize now what [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► about the other things globes are you [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► are you where you need to be with globes [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► you think I'm where I need to be if i [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► see i saw globally other day that was [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► that was pretty cool 80 years old and [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► very very weathered and that the patina [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► was what made it cool but as I looked at [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► it I realized no it's not it does it [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► again like you're saying it is not the [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► shape the puzzle shape that I need to [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► fit into you know like that all of these [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► collections are everything that I that I [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► that i acquire like they're there is a [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► docking port still open for the next [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► cool thing [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► but but i but I've never been a [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► completist like I need to have every [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► issue or I need to have every one of a [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► certain kind of thing its I'm looking [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► for I'm looking I'm looking for things [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► that's a different kind of collecting [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► OCD probably yeah yeah I don't know I [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► don't know what it is but but i think [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► what needs to happen [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► the other thing is that I I because I [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► find these things for very very cheap [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► i I'm so reluctant to sell them that's [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► going to say I mean some people who are [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► not hoarders but the collectors they'll [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► start kind of saying all the way this is [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► how much space I have for my collection [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► right be public [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► this is an area where i put stuff that's [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► you know what museum right you don't [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► have everything on display all the time [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► but you know that in this box [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► these are my other 14 iron man figures [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► right whatever and then you get a new [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► iron man figure that's really cool and [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► like you might take your least cool iron [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► man figure and get rid of it would sell [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► it off or like you know take the least [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► interesting one of the box and sell that [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► you know what I mean where you've got [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► but this question of value is at the [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► heart of the thing you know because I go [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► to a place and there and this thing is [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► fifty cents but i know it's worth fifty [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► dollars and then I get it and bring it [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► home and put it on the summer but did [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► the desk and I go that's worth fifty [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► dollars and i got it for 50 cents but I [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► don't really think it's worth fifty [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► dollars because i got it for 50 cents to [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► sell it for fifty dollars feels a lot [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► wrong but it cheapens the i would much [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► rather take that take the things that I [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► am done with that the the Iron Man [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► figure that is the least important to me [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► and just put it back into the river just [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► take it down to the thrift store in a [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► box and give it back to the the thrift [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► store because somebody else cuz somebody [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► will want that absolutely yeah and I [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► feel like the thrift store maybe that [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► maybe somebody else's puzzle piece [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► it's kind of a guy figure it's like a [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► it's a mother earth and the mother earth [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► you know has these big forested teats [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► but she provides man to us through [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► and uh and part of that mana is this [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► constant steady flow of brass tchotchkes [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► that but issue forth from her teats and [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► so I then she'd probably have that [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► looked at [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► I take the I take the Cornucopia that I [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► have unloaded and I fill it up with with [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► old stuff and I take it back to the [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► mother Gaia food store it's a lot of [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► metaphors on m-i-a m-i-a slow i've heard [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► people say I've heard it is said that [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► that if you are truly a collector is it [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► only becomes a collection when you have [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► more than two and you put them somewhere [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► and take care of them right so so this [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► is what really not a collector of wives [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► every variety and I think you failed at [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► every every test on that was about to [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► take care of it [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► what a public put it somewhere why would [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► I tell my responsibility to what I tell [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► anybody who that is that's weird but you [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► know and and select example my friend [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► down my very good friend Dennis get part [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► back in Florida very very interesting [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► guy i mention into you [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► he um he was very tidy [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► he had very you know he kept treasure [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► everything that he had and didn't have [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► things he didn't treasure you know he's [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► not one of those guys you know there's [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► guys who buy 25 pairs of shoes and [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► they're all over the floor or the [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► schedule 25 pairs of shoes and they're [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► all in plexiglass like you would have [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► five well-maintained pairs of shoes like [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► a general I admire that I admire that I [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► think that's the way to be absolutely [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► and in Dennis was i believe of the one [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► in one out school so it's not really was [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► but to curate your belongings [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► yeah it's an art it's absolutely an arch [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► when they're so here's my dad look to [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► Dennis as a paragon of so many things we [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► went to college together and eventually [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► roommates in florida and in Tallahassee [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► but one of the best guys I've ever known [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► and he collected many interesting things [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► he collected before it was fashionable [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► ironic he collected like neurons [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► that old coed orbs that he would collect [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► for example like which michael outsider [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► art which in this case it was like [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► things people have painted themselves [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► that he found at shirt that's rich [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► ground into the talent there and well [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► now it's a thing but never what he [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► collected his primary collection and I [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► knew this when we went to college [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► together and I'd heard about it and the [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► first time I saw it first I met Dennis [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► he's probably 62 and was wearing [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► overalls [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► he's from Arkansas is very colorful [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► guide i like this guy very interesting [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► guy now works on Wall Street and but he [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► has that he collects now when I say that [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► he collects ETS that your first thought [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► might be out he goes out and he gets [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► like little ET figurines and he's got a [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► hundred of them on ourself know that was [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► my first thought was your first thought [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► as you do but he doesn't just collect [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► eighties he he did in he collects like [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► ceramic et's he creates et's that people [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► have like made out of craft projects but [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► he only collects unlicensed like [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► homemade ceramic métis this is like the [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► UH the velvet painting of Elvis that is [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► done really badly all the way they look [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► a lot of 5 second mix but the thing is [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► it's not really just purely ironic he [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► really genuinely loves these things any [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► but the thing is he's got like eight or [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► nine of them huh [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► however it is greatly because it walk [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► you walk in the house and always ETS [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► were in a cabinet in our in the corner [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► but like the nice thing is now he's [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► collected TTYL company almost really [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► cool you got like a hundred eighties and [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► I look at that one that one's got a [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► little nick on it looks like a kid bit [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► that one no these are all incredibly [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► fucked up looking because et is super [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► weird looking to begin with but these [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► are like painted their could look like [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► maybe special people made them and [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► they're all super shiny because they're [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► like ceramic now I admire this guy I was [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► nothing like a little been real easy for [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► him to go i collect ET stuff and then [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► he's just a weirdo with a bunch of stuff [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► in boxes but he is a collection it's [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► taken him 30 years to put together and [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► it's got like nine items in it right he [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► still because you know it's hard it's [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► hard hard over the years to find a good [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► outside ret but that's the kind of [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► collecting I admire because he goes to [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► thrift stores will get things going to [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► get rid of other things but to me that's [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► like that's a gentleman [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► if you're collecting off-brand you know [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► unlicensed ets and then displaying them [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► that my name was the name for the [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► Japanese a little little porcelain [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► figures that that are that are sort of a [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► a a big a big part of of Japanese [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► culture I mean I guess every every [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► little cherries little tchotchke is a [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► kind of part of just the kind of like [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► rock around like we like a labels on aI [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► don't think they are there weebles [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► exactly [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► no I don't think I know this now there [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► that there was a book about the notes [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► racist it looks like food my kid loves [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► those racers that look like food huge [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► you know another guy like that is Scott [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► plot the drummer of built to spill in in [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► in in seattle every restaurant you walk [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► into has an ironic collection of bad [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► paintings on the wall seven hundred [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► dollars each [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► but Scott has this collection of of [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► portraits naive portrait CA in a room in [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► his house you walk in and and and you [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► look at the wall and your first thought [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► is like oh it's like it's like a hipster [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► bar anywhere in the Northwest where [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► there's a bunch of thrift store [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► paintings but then as you look at the [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► paintings one after another he realized [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► that he probably has eight of them and [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► there is no way but that they represent [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► a lifetime of cultivating this [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► collection because each one of these [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► paintings that are there clearly thrift [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► store paintings each one of them is the [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► greatest gift or painting you ever saw [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► likelike well-executed incredible not [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► just well executed but like captures an [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► ineffable ineffable aspect of human the [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► human condition [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► you know I mean like each portrait is [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► not just a great representation of a [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► person but also like our an actual work [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► of art that by the by the style and by [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► the frame you know was also found for a [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► dollar by someone and the only way to [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► have those eight paintings together in a [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► room is to have [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► your self bought and have been given [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► four hundred paintings in the course of [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► your life and you got rid of 392 of them [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► Wow in order to have in order to have [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► these eight you know like some such he's [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► just use the magnet but he's also he has [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► this incredible aesthetic and he's a [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► drummer so I mean you know it's not like [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► it is really overcome a lot [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► you never you never know it by looking [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► at it but oh my god this collection of [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► paintings belongs in a museum and [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► infected it is houses like that some guy [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► I really admire that you could you could [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► do that now this could be a project [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► here's the other thing i don't like is a [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► demon dogs like with me IM with comics [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► it's easy because there's always another [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► comic you need to fill in this part to [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► learn this part and I within me that [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► with me this is so simple because I [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► could just buy it online and get it off [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► the internet or whatever but in your [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► case I mean you you have puzzles inside [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► of puzzles [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► yeah I need to get I think I think the [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► next puzzle for me is the puzzle of of [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► getting rid of stuff it is the it's the [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► agony and the ecstasy idea of chipping [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► away all the stone that isn't [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► Michelangelo's David I need to get ready [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► but happy that you should check you [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► people look I do have the agony and the [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► ecstasy in here somewhere [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► now between you might have David you [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► know might be inside some that dander [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► sandwich between the joys of the year [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► edition American aircraft world war two [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► volume 1i yeah like I'm just looking at [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► my bookshelves now and i'm thinking i [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► have a lot of books and ninety percent [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► of them could go into a pyre and the [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► remaining ten percent would be an [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► awesome collection of books but oh [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► that's too much to take on i'm i'm at [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► did I mention I'm a really busy guy [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► right now [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► yeah is it busy with our thing oh that [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► among other things you know I made a [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► Christmas record with jonathan coulton [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► is touring on that we're doing a tour in [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► the in the in the winter [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► and i'm going back to max funcom this [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► weekend to a light see this is okay [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► here's the thing [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► now you and I slackers like us we can [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► sit and talk about how we're busy but [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► let's be honest I mean most of the time [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► not now most of the time we're busy with [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► stuff that nobody could fucking give a [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► shit about and wouldn't know if it never [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► happened correct for me i can go around [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► this thing i really wanted to do or [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► there's this you know there's no public [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► humiliation involved if it's a day late [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► but it sounds like you've got time [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► sensitive stuff where you really are [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► busy like a fucking normal man i'm busy [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► i have to get on an airplane [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► you gotta get a couple airplanes don't [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► you and I have to have that stuff done [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► so yes and and all get your car yet a [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► car yet craft services gotta do that i'm [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► flying continental Europe in November [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► i'm doing some shows i'm a this I'm and [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► performing in a reenactment of the last [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► waltz in San Francisco [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► what is not thanksgiving the end of [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► november that's very close to [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► thanksgiving my god and all of these [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► things those who do you play [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► I'm going to be Neil Diamond what is he [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► saying [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► danke what is it what does he sing in [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► the last lots of all the ones that come [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► out even more than that he sings Ricky [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► don't lose that number by and live know [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► what you want [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► even though the song would not come out [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► for another five years but it's one of [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► these things where I where we're all the [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► things that I have to do they're all [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► stacking up so so I fly to fly to [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► edinburgh scotland and then I go to [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► Ireland and then I flight back from [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► Ireland to San Francisco where I play a [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► show the next night and then i applied [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► from there to san diego where I join [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► Jonathan Coulton for a tour across [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► America that would but which ends in [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► just the last tour this is a bendy [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► jonathan coulton as a bus so [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► so it's gonna be like so he is so sweet [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► well it's sweet except as you know I am [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► an oversized person [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► well compared to y mano [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► you mean the normal person to partner [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► compared to a rivers cuomo yeah I am an [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► oversized person even tell box compared [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► to Daniel Craig James Bond who i am a [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► normal time I'm an oversized person [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► because he is a he is not a big person [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► is that right yeah because you see these [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► pictures of him walking the red carpet [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► next to his leading lady whom you know [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► to be five foot to right and he is the [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► same height itself right yeah yeah you [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► know Mom movie actors they did they [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► don't want to be too big because they [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► make everybody else looking for Cogar [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► was pretty short to a very small feat do [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► crack is 5 10 [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► no he's not that's a total publicist lie [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► you think so honey 510 that's the loan [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► baloney [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► it's got a nice chased he's a piece of [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► handsome man here handsome man's but in [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► any case I get onto these I get onto [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► these tour buses and I get into the bunk [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► which is scale for a normal-size person [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► and my toes are touching and my head is [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► touching and i feel like i am I feel [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► like I'm like I have been put like I've [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► been put into a cigar box and i'm about [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► to be buried in some kids back and when [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► I don't want to bring it up you know [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► bring up an old thing but she don't you [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► don't like being you don't be buried [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► alive if you don't like being in a [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► closed space [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► no I don't want to be buried alive and I [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► don't want to be nobody wants to be [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► buried alive right but I really dont [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► Germans probably some Germans I want to [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► be there are determined called horizon [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► but I don't want to be buried alive and [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► I don't want to be in a tiny bunk when [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► my tour bus rolls on the interstate and [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► I'm you know I'm crushed into this space [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► that was already too small for me [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► so anyway touring touring on a bus is [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► that you know it's kind of a mixed bag I [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► have slept many many nights on a on a [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► like on an open train car hurtling [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► through the mountains and I'm more [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► comfortable [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► on one of those that i am in a bunk on a [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► tour bus [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► mmm so-so you be driving in a little bit [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► know it it's one of those like i know i [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► know that i'm going to be tired for six [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► weeks and that is absolutely endurable [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► considering all the great times the [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► wonderful fun times [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► mhm will make up for not really getting [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► a good night's those people you're gonna [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► get to hug a lot of hugs people touching [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► you a lot of touching a lot of people a [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► lot of people looking at me some people [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► looking at their phones i think im gonna [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► see a few people to get their phones but [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► I like going to the UK I i know that you [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► earlier in the show stipulated that that [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► one in four people in Britain has pool [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► on their hands bad i find i find people [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► in the UK are definitely like window [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► peepers and panty sniffers but I think [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► they're wonderful i love the country and [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► i will land and eat and the northern i'm [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► not even in Britain i'm in scotland and [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► ireland there you know they're wonderful [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► people they like the candidate thinking [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► right you know the who Scotland him feel [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► like the canada of England if canada was [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► sparta what's wales as well count is [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► that even the country but uh well as a [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► country increasingly it is more and more [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► country all the time they are regaining [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► their autonomy and wales is like I think [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► that successive waves of invaders came [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► into Wales and the Welsh did their their [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► old trick which was to go up in the [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► mountains and throw rocks down the old [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► last check [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► well string of throwing rocks down from [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► the mountains and so that it was very [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► hard to subdue them because right now [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► our berkeley then it's time for her to [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► look in the field with the strip [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► come with come with me your number what [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► you mean worried about the amount of [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► throw rocks down [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► oh yeah but now they could subdue the [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► wealth that that like got caught down [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► around the water [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► uh-huh but as soon as the as soon as the [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► Romans turn their backs of the Britons [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► are the Danes turn their backs those [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► those walls man went up in the mountains [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► and started throwing rocks down on them [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► too so I think both of the Welsh in the [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► Scots have have that in common at least [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► that they were but they were hard hard [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► to subdue although the Welsh were [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► finally subdued before the Scots well I [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► I mean we should probably have an [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► offline about some you know we're [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► probably have to go on hiatus for a [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► little while sounds like you're you're [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► gonna be pretty busy but I know we can [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► continue to do the podcast will just [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► have to do it a holograph for some well [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► i have an iphone 5 now [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► wow so you don't have a shitty phone [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► well I'm I you know I'm not prepared to [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► say that because I've been trying to use [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► my iphone 5 and it did not import all my [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► text message history [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► you didn't do all these things and so [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► I'm like you know I look at I'm looking [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► at it across the room she can take [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► pictures now right I can take nice [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► pictures i can not sure what else that [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► allows me to do I can talk to Siri if i [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► want to be a little frustrating still [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► trying to figure out you know I well I [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► think I i think i was prepped for the [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► upgrade to be a transformation in my [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► life and really it just works like I [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► wanted my 3gs to work you know just as [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► it's a it's like a 3gs accept it works [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► right right right like it works like the [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► 3gs did when I gotta get all that stuff [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► to sing can work together is definitely [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► hard part my concern is for your health [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► I don't want to ensure i'm worried about [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► my I stopped going to lay this out [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► I don't want to be controversial worry [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► about the poop I don't worry about the [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► bunk and and I don't want to get [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► stressed bumps i want to make sure that [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► you're taking lysine thank you and [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► getting sleep when you can [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► it's important social bandage on this [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► home and Goofy and is coming [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► yeah John's band and his and his [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► extended staff hanna-barbera cartoon and [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► including Jonathan's manager kuma merch [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► guy whom you got along with so [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► well so please leave when we've mended [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► fences okay good [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► but anyway Marlon doing the during this [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► podcast with you is like a healthful [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► draw a draft of of draught how do you [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► fucking pronounce that draft of a [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► droplet of mead it's a healthy a glass [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► of vitamin-enriched Mead honey bear that [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► I that I look forward to every week I [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► wouldn't i would not i will John if it [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► helps are all I i cough deep upon line [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► meet ya [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► also too I do i do I I don't see any way [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► we could possibly do this while you're [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► gone I just wanna make sure you take [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► care of yourself that's thoughtful right [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► I'm serious and also make sure you don't [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► get screwed on your phone when you go [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► over there without the cleaners over [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► there I thought you were going to say [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► don't get screwed by jonathan is it was [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► a his capitalistic business practices [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► I'm I thought you were learning from him [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► I thought you were learning how to make [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► money from jonathan coulton we are both [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► learning how to make money from one [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► another [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► I really do you do I mean in as much as [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► you can say without without making it [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► sound like you guys want to make a [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► living and I do so you have to help each [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► other out you're able to give each other [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► notes where the other has shortcomings [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► deficits areas for improvement [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► well here's the funny thing Jonathan [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► Coulton is the person who reinvented the [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► music business a few years ago I read [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► that in New York Times yeah and then a [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► lot of people are like well now the now [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► the cat is out of the bag the music [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► business is it's all it's all just put [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► it on the internet for free and let [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► people and then they buy your t-shirt [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► problem solved and then three or four [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► years went by and everybody went oh [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► that's that only a only works for [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► jonathan coulton and be increasingly [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► like doesn't work for anybody and so my [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► experience in the actual music business [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► has started to come in handy with us [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► because as we as we as we are making a [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► christmas record and trying to promote [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► we have a guaranteed audience up on one [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► hand of people who will buy anything [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► jonathan coulton puts out but we want we [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► want to get this record into other [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► people's hands too [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► and just putting it for free on the [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► internet doesn't know that isn't really [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► enough anymore you know [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► so anyway where we are working in [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► concert if you will to make money as [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► performing artists em changing the game [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► it is a game changing change gamer over [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► here i had been fun to watch that from [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► from sometimes nearby but mostly a [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► middle-distance more jonathan is you [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► know the poster child for all of this [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► stuff and like like anything like this [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► so it's it's really it's funny how the [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► air of like having democracy in the air [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► gets people so excited but then they [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► realize it's still really fucking hard [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► you know they go over people call like [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► oh I would have recorded the song if [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► only I had a 64 tracks to do when I get [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► a fucking recording studio in your [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► pocket like what have you made [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► right now or you know what I mean it's [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► ago will look at him he's a like he's a [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► half million air and all he had to do [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► was write a zombie song it's like we [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► have only had to do and then there are [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► relentlessly and well and and and you [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► know and and and ultimately practices [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► guitar for 15 years in order to write a [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► zombie song oh yeah you know where to [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► put the mark on the big machine right [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► yeah but yeah I don't know that drives [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► me a little crazy because everything has [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► been driving me crazy more and more at [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► the the product at the proximity that we [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► all have two people who never have to [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► work again you know you you saw that it [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► and and see it all the time in your tech [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► world where you know there you have you [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► know that many people who never have to [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► work again probably half a dozen people [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► interrupt but that's a lot you know like [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► a half-dozen people who never appeared [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► normal people that's fine for Merlin [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► that's fine for Merlin but I mean I know [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► I half a dozen people in rock and roll [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► or a dozen maybe who are you don't have [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► to work ever again and uh and now that [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► I'm meeting people in Hollywood who [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► don't have to work it does a job on you [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► it is i'm glad that i didn't go to prep [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► school i'm glad i did not meet rich [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► people i mean like a [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► family money rich be like Burma rich [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► people from rich people i'm glad i did [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► not know them when i was a young person [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► because i think that i think that [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► permanently scars you to be around [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► people who just were you know never had [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► to or have to think about money you [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► think so I find them very relaxed [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► oh I know but I at least if you have my [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► if you have my mind who I would just be [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► turning turning turning and and I i [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► think i think they basically very [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► relaxed it would be me that could never [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► relax [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► I mean as a as it was growing up sorry [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► it if you were permits you never reply [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► what if I if I had grown up around [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► progress people but was like I am [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► oh yeah you're growing up around middle [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► class people it's like well I'm all [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► we're all gonna have to get a job so [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► yeah it's one thing it's one thing to [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► have a TV [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► it's another thing to have a color TV [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► yeah it's nothing that the color TV and [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► black-and-white TV it's another thing to [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► have five TVs and it's another thing to [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► know that if you wanted to you could buy [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► every TV [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► yeah right order to have or to have [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► servants or or what I mean I think our [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► friend Shawn Nelson former single-party [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► danger he went to a piscul high school [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► in Virginia and a lot of his classmates [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► like three things about that that are [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► rough right a lot of his classmates were [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► difficult to fake Catholics right yeah [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► fiscal episcopal Tsar the Catholics in a [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► and everything but name because of Henry [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► VIII 8 before but they were the real [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► like sweater not around the next set [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► there and Sean although not a poor kid [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► did not come from this kind of storybook [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► money this like house in Maine built on [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► a rock promontory that looks out over a [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► you know [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► kennebunk head and and you know i think [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► it I think that kind of like exposure to [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► preppy [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► millions do you know it worked its magic [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► on him into the sense of feeling on boys [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► hard to project like never quite fully [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► arrived [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► yeah never quite fully realized as a [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► person almost i mean i don't know i can [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► distract of course [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► yeah yeah I had this experience going to [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► the HBO emmy party where the guys are [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► walking around with in with enemies in [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► their hands which are surprisingly big [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► statues and after about the 16th guy [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► like nebbishy 35 year old guy in a [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► tuxedo walked past holding an Emmy I [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► started to say where's my fucking enemy [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► who I want to Emmy I mean these guys [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► aren't any smarter than I am and they [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► got an Emmy they're gonna put that any [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► up on the mantel and it's going to sit [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► there the rest of their lives in the day [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► they die [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► the first thing that the obituary is [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► going to say is that they wanted me you [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► know it's a kind of like you got that [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► taken care of at least and I think that [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► that is a sense of understanding the [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► sense of like the can of Patriot past me [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► or in the sense of like wow I really [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► really want one of those and i'm going [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► to work for it [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► well that's a that's an excellent [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► question I mean I the am I gonna go do I [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► wanted me so badly that i'm going to go [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► work for one [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► no but has the cut as the concept of not [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► having an Emmy being a disappointment [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► now finish your dates have been [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► introduced in my mom yes and so it's [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► just it goes back to this question of [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► like do I mean to get an Emmy one must [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► chase an enemy but it doesn't keep you [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► from sitting around kind of you know [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► grousing or it internally feeling that [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► there is something missing from your [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► life for your career and that's why I [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► feel like working in LA with peace is so [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► even being down there for a week how can [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► you be anything but perpetually broken [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► it's crazy because you're closer there [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► is about how nobody it isn't it seems [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► like I apologize in advance to my very [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► very good friends who live there but the [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► whole culture seems predicated on the [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► idea that everybody wants more and [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► everybody was to look like they've got [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► more than somebody else [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► it's perpetually looking over the [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► shoulder of the person you're talking to [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► you like you know kind of upgrade and [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► and it's just you know in San Francisco [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► there's douchebag conversations to be [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► certain but there's things about like [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► what school your kid goes to her stuff [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► but i just did the the giantess of of [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► class dissatisfaction amongst rich [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► people in la is staggering to me it [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► seems like everybody wants to be on a [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► better VIP list in LA I think that's [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► true but I'm lately i have a I've been [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► spending a little bit more time down [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► there and and interacting with the with [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► the creative class which is to say the [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► aspirational young people who are trying [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► to get their scripts looked at and made [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► her and that you know and it's like [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► anybody it's like it's like young bands [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► that start off and then one of them [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► become successful you've got six guys [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► sitting around the table [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► they're all trying to get their scripts [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► made except for this guy over here who [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► just won an Oscar and the level of [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► achievement the level of possible [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► achievement is so is so much greater [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► you know like it just seems to me that [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► having won an Oscar and I mean this is [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► looking at it from the outside once [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► you've won an Oscar I guess you have to [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► get up the next day and brush your teeth [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► and and and you know wipe your butt like [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► anybody like I i met Leon courage who [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► won an Oscar for toy story 3 and i met [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► him in the context of a party where I [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► said I was standing there talking to him [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► for half an hour before it was made [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► known to me by someone else that but he [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► had just recently won an Oscar for toy [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► story 3 this was last year here before [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► and you know he's our age and a super [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► nice guy like a mellow dude and he made [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► it's not just that he won an Oscar but [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► that he made a thing of such consummate [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► beauty of my favorite movies of all time [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► as toy story 3 [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► yes tremendous movie and so all of a [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► sudden I'm standing there and I'm saying [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► oh you and I have been talking about our [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► dads for the last half-hour but right [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► now I'm just going to completely switch [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► gears and start talking about the [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► incredible Holocaust metaphor in the [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► form of a children's want to thank that [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► job you made but i'm so tired of having [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► to a bring that up at a party to be have [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► somebody tell me it's not true to see [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► then have to make the entire room cry [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► after an hour of explaining how toy [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► story 3 is about the Holocaust yeah I'm [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► so we have discussed this before [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► no I don't think so oh this is the thing [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► I do it every party it's written in the [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► fabric of the movie you can't possibly [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► miss that really the fire at the end [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► come on [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► but behind him in an attic ok if you [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► don't cry at the end of toy story 3 then [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► your then there's something dead inside [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► yeah and I'm saying this to this guy [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► like so you made this wonderful thing [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► like an amazing thing like a thing a [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► thing that has all of the depth and [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► breadth of 15 years of the simpsons and [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► also like the tragedy of the Russian [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► novel yeah right now but it's like it's [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► a profound cart it and he's like nah [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► thanks man i'm like right well there's [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► nothing more for me to say hey about [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► that except like high-five and let's [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► talk about before we looking for with [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► his success musk no no [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► but-but-but-but a sense of like well i [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► guess i guess the takeaway was a that [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► having made a thing like that his only [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► thought was about the next thing was [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► going to make that's I think that's very [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► i'm happy to say that I think that is [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► not typical but i think that's one of [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► the auditory one of the things I really [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► like about people like that is that it [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► isn't like they want to arrive and then [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► get the statue and run the next thing I [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► i have to say a lot of people i know [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► work pixar and dreamworks are like this [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► they think a lot about like okay well [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► you know we got another good one now [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► let's make another like now the next [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► thing you know they're always working a [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► little bit on different projects and [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► their car [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► it looking you know learning the new [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► tools because it's critical to what they [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► do and the craftsman you know there are [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► people who are just constantly thinking [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► about like how do we keep building on [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► this and making something great ok now [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► we've learned how to do hair now we've [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► learned how to do the water now I know [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► how to make the hair move with the wind [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► and look good when it's wet now we're [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► ready to make incredibles now you know [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► what I mean it's is as it's a pixar uber [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► fan and nerd I have so much respect for [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► that process you know what I mean and [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► it's eating you can tell it's like you [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► know like you say like the fuck stains [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► you know who learn guitar to meet girls [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► you can it's so distinct and like SI la [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► but it's so distinct from this culture [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► of like sucking up to the right people [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► so you know what this is [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► so you know what this is [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► kind i'm not gonna say I'm gonna say it [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► but there's a meritocracy there is a [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► hard place to work everybody's [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► constantly kicking your ass to do things [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► a hundred times better it's very Steve [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► Jobs the kind of company where [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► ridiculous perfection is expected of [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► everybody and innovation but this is the [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► thing that I am carrying around with me [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► a lot lately which is that I do not I do [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► not locate in myself that drive when I [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► search when i searched my C Drive not [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► say what files are here bleep blorp do [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► not locate motivation to die pond will [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► to create a purse and I you know i'm i'm [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► searching through all these different [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► folders marked like relax chill out take [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► a break it [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► whatever you know whatever to whatever [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► three cats test whatever final final 36 [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► and then I was going through I'm just [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► going through jpegs at the bed the [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► bottom of like whatever whatever [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► whatever whatever and then there's a [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► jpay dislike and there is idle untitled [TS]

01:01:13 ◼   ► one final seconds into the system is one [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► that says just do it [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► thumbs up and I clearly eat click on it [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► and it's a thumbnail picture so it's [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► like 16 by 5i can't even see oh no no no [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► yes yes yes and and and you know and I'm [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► wondering like I'm wondering if if it's [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► just a vitamin T deficit [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► yeah or shining Sun but it does not but [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► but but all of that does not does not [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► give me any relief when I look across [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► the room at a at an Emmy Award sitting [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► on a table in front of some Schmendrick [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► and I think what the fuck what is that [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► what I the only way I could deal with [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► that demon dogs to stay out of the room [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► I just don't enjoy you actually but I'm [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► not to talk too much about this but you [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► know how I feel about the divide [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► mhm I'm uncomfortable with the divide [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► and I when I feel myself like moving [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► toward this like [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► oh there's just more famous person over [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► there and well like what the fuck why [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► did they want to meet me and what would [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► i say if they did and like you know on [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► the other hand there might be somebody [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► over there that does want to meet me who [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► might be really super cool it's just [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► that I don't know what their famous [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► they're not a famous metric you know and [TS]

01:02:31 ◼   ► and then I always feel like if I do meet [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► somebody like the sandwich guy he said [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► before sounds really nice i'm just [TS]

01:02:35 ◼   ► really going to like like Dom chris [TS]

01:02:37 ◼   ► farley mode right where it's going to be [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► like you know the thing where would he [TS]

01:02:41 ◼   ► writes on the post-it note we never see [TS]

01:02:43 ◼   ► what the address was still in firehouse [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► awesome up if you look really close to [TS]

01:02:49 ◼   ► zoom it looks a dinosaur looks a lot [TS]

01:02:51 ◼   ► like a plastic dinosaur [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► yeah it's really good how you do that [TS]

01:02:54 ◼   ► yeah that I mean you know i have i have [TS]

01:02:57 ◼   ► the advantage or a or at least the trait [TS]

01:03:01 ◼   ► of feeling like everybody is going to be [TS]

01:03:04 ◼   ► interested in me because i'm passing [TS]

01:03:05 ◼   ► thank you Dad [TS]

01:03:07 ◼   ► so so going into a room full of famous [TS]

01:03:10 ◼   ► people I never feel cowed by it because [TS]

01:03:11 ◼   ► it's no yeah they're going to be [TS]

01:03:13 ◼   ► restarted the whole detected the pole [TS]

01:03:15 ◼   ► that once they start once they really [TS]