Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hey John [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► hi Merlin that's going to product back I [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► for some reason my headphones are a lot [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► louder today [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► you sound louder I sounds but I can't [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► hear myself in my headphones so I don't [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► sound any different [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► wow we should we get I don't know no [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► notes i like it it's um it's bold it's [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► bold as love Who am I can I can modulate [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► my voice no no don't do god don't do [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► that okay you sound like Twiggy from the [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► original Buck Rogers biddy biddy [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► speaking of penises [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► I just done a minute ago yeah saw Jimi [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► Hendrix's penis as well as a plaster [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► cast know em do you are do you know [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► Cynthia plaster caster are you familiar [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► with her work [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► I just visited her entirely flash-based [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► site and and looked at its really it's [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► quite a thing I'm not seen it myself but [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► my understanding is that that Jimmy's [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► penis curves to the side or something [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► that has a well flash technology [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► notwithstanding it was just a straight [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► on like side shot [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► OIC it was I don't use this word [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► incorrectly but i think it might be [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► regarded as a chode showed that it is [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► not in the the technical term like a [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► fireplug because it's its considerable [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► yeah it's a long long scale penis but [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► it's it's real big around i don't know i [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► might be the plastic they could get at [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► the time of my but my impression is that [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► a child is shaped like a like a safety [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► cone [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► oh really it tapers that's that but you [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► know what [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► haha i use that word to refer to so many [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► things in my in my short life [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► yeah that's maybe its original meaning [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► is lost a terrific wear what would it [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► was the way that it was explained to me [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► a time when these words were achieving a [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► lot of cultural cachet [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► and I'm just gonna tell you what i was [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► told because there's a lot of these [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► kinds of things you hear and sticks in [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► your head even though it doesn't make [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► sense i was told that it's a penis [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► that's bigger around than it is long oh [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► right ok I see what you're saying which [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► which sounds like a child's block or [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► something I mean you know something [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► cylindrical i guess but yeah like a like [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► a like a wheel of cheese just like a [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► Japanese man haha you have a Japanese [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► chod that's a good word there's a lot of [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► words like that I I don't make sure that [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► i'm using correctly that's a great word [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► that sounds great yeah although it's not [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► a word I mean it showed is not a word [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► that you would say use when you were [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► meeting to your local candidate for [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► lieutenant governor [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► no i mean like yeah you wouldn't like [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► shake somebody's hand and then find a [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► way to slip children with the [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► conversation do you think he'd be [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► familiar with the term depends i know [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► what I what state probably right i bet i [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► bet he would I better which I think the [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► problem is that somebody in the room [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► without you I bet you could I bet you [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► get a lot of like snickers in the room [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► or either that or you're the guy that's [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► standing right behind the lieutenant [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► governor whose job it is to like move [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► him from conversation the conversation [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► all right with his handler his handler [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► his handler would lean forward and say [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► that's not what showed me answer and [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► then that and then you would have a [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► chance to correct yourself because they [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► attack gubernatorial candidate would [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► already be talking to three old ladies [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► this press conference is over i could [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► really benefit from having a handler [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► oh my god oh I i sink into my chair in [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► frustrated exhaustion at the thought [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► that I don't have a handler [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► yeah I've tried I've sought out handlers [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► it sounds like you have on some level [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► sideout handlers but i haven't funny but [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► you can handle me [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► well you know that the I my feeling [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► about you and and some of my friends who [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► have been successful enough to attempt [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► to hire someone to help them [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► who is that i have never heard of I've [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► never heard a story about that but that [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► that didn't sound scary where the person [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► did not get what what it what it took to [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► handle you [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► you know but that the upper the person [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► whomever of all my friends whoever they [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► hire to handle them they end up having [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► to handle the person that they hired to [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► handle them handling the handler you're [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► handling the handler and the handler is [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► not the handlers just passing that [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► handling through back to you with all [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► the good parts filtered out and yes [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► you're just like this isn't I'm handling [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► now I'm handling myself for more poorly [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► and i'm also having to handle this jerk [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► this is a big top is big series of [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► topics but yes I totally agree i have i [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► have attempted to find handlers [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► professionally you know and personally [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► and it's just been very hard for what [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► you're the reason you describe which is [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► first of all you have to want to be [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► handled and you have to be open to the [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► changes required to make a handler [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► effective and even if you've got all the [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► money in the world if you if you don't [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► want to be handled [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► you're not gonna have a good handler and [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► unless you're like a roger waters like [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► Pink Floyd situation where you know like [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► the titular pink you and you are see [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► such a basket case you know the election [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► don't you think shane macgowan probably [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► has a cat has a handler [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► oh yeah but shane macgowan handler has a [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► fire hose and like a series of like very [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► large tongs have a tiger with anyone [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► wakes him up with the hose and then just [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► whip them into the shower you left [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► yesterday I i decided i don't know why i [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► had I'm i honestly don't know why i [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► haven't done this in the last four years [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► i started looking online at office space [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► for myself away from my home and I was [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► going through all the different [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► neighborhoods of the city and think [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► you're imagining myself getting up in [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► the morning and commuting over to this [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► other neighborhood where I would go sit [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► in a in a room with a window and the and [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► the whole point of me being there would [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► be that i would write [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► and I was trying to trying to picture [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► like okay do I want to be in a space [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► where it's a kind of creative office [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► space where there are other creative [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► people like painters and and you know [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► and dance choreographers and and and [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► have a have a space in a place like that [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► where I can come out and stand kind of [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► leaning in the doorway of my uh my [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► office with a cup of coffee in my hand [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► waiting for somebody with clay [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► undershirt consider laughs so like the [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► school in same where you put your head [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► on the door in there the lady stretching [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► yeah it's hard and there be someone in a [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► beret painting [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► yeah and i would say what's a metaphor [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► for what's the word for when a penis is [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► a wider around it is long and then [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► though the lady stretching would look up [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► and go chod and I don't chod thank you [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► and then go back to writing do I want to [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► space like that or do I want a space [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► where I'm like up in a garret and nobody [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► can nobody can get to me and I Anna [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► about it but like somewhere underneath [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► me there's a there are people using saws [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► so there's that sound like what kind of [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► you know like all right window or do I [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► want to actually go downtown where [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► literal chodes are working in the [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► insurance and mortgage industry and rent [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► office space in a in a bit chilled [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► building in the building where where I [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► walked you know where late in the [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► morning I'm like crowding through the [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► front door with guys who are who have [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► like guys and overcoats they're holding [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► folded up newspapers and measuring guys [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► that have suspenders on under the suit [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► jacket but they call them braces and [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► dont like there's a lady at asking maybe [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► security guard and they say good morning [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► mr. chod as a security guard morning mr. [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► toad [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► good morning mr. toad and then I take [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► the elevator up to the side like you [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► Willis and good morning to you shall we [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► pick our usual winter one dollar [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► haha nice mr. Roderick mr. Valentine [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► surprise that's what I and then go and [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► like to maybe be like the secret guy [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► working in one of those cubicles that is [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► actually working that's actually writing [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► articles about or whatever it is and [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► then do whatever it is that I do [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► whatever it is that I do whatever [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► writing it is i think i'm i'm gonna do [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► but so I was toying with all these ideas [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► and I honestly couldn't decide there was [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► a part of me that as antisocial as i am [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► a part of me that the only the whole [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► reason I be doing this is to be putting [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► myself out into the actual world like I [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► don't need it's not that I just need [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► some physical distance from this room [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► here full of a this room full of real [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► dolls with that I have here in my [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► upstairs [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► I I actually kinda need to be out in the [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► world where I'm getting coffee and there [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► are other ppl bear this is it yeah i'm [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► so glad you brought this up this is a [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► huge challenge I face this in many many [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► times with many different things and [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► your ear it sounds like you're on the [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► horns of a dilemma because just by how [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► very yeah you don't be able to get off [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► those horns believe it you've got on the [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► one hand you're i'm going to get to a [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► bigger point here but I think what [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► you're saying in some ways is do I want [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► obviously what you're looking for here [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► is a second place your place you need a [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► place that's not the room with the [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► regular leather chair doesn't mean that [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► you can't bring the chair with you [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► although I would just personally I would [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► just have it removed permanently but but [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► you know on the one hand you realize you [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► need to change you need someplace else [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► to get your work done [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► there's the work that you do and so the [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► question becomes and think about those [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► different things that you're describing [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► on the one here saying do I want to be [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► surrounded with these creative people [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► they're probably a little fruity and [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► that will drive my creativity do I want [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► to go somewhere there's more in keeping [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► with my theoretically blue-collar [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► background somewhere where you would be [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► around people throwing fish or doing [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► magic tricks for standing very still [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► looking like a statue [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► I imagine imagine that scene in the [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► billy joel music video allentown weather [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► guys a moving big trenches all [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► and then you pan up and there's like a [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► there's a office manager up above on a [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► railing he's wearing a tie in his pants [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► are pulled up kind of pretty high [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► uh-huh i would have the office next to [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► that guy ok but you would be begin now [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► and the one in the in the first scenario [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► you would be surrounded by the sort of [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► creative people who probably are [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► let's be honest I'm probably making very [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► much but last-chance people mhm mhm [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► that's not real welder and and then on [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► the other hand you're saying do I want [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► to be somewhere where I'm really doing [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► capital w work because I'm surrounded by [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► people who are going to come on the [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► fruit if I'm not you know writing [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► writing responses to people from [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► Aerosmith right and and then on the [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► other hand you're saying do I want to be [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► somewhere where I can do my work in [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► peace [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► maybe something somewhere with a [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► clawfoot bathtub but you know ya know [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► that another part of the problem [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► solution we mul you just added a whole [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► new wrinkle all right there because [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► here's the thing the big point is what [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► is it that you're running away from are [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► running toward what is the barrier [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► you're trying to do for a living and is [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► which of these barriers do you want to [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► get rid of because you might just need a [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► bathroom somewhere if you're gonna [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► record I mean you get a nice kind of you [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► know natural reverb in a room like that [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► but you might just want to have a big [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► bathroom at someone's house or talking [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► their house like in there may be there [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► for you could house-sit for somebody's [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► bigger bathroom set for somebody so I'm [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► wondering though how i would put that [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► into craigslist like wanted this I want [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► to rent your bathroom huh all day wanted [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► i want to write you one all day I want [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► to rent your bathroom large bathroom all [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► day was largely a clawfoot bathtub [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► clawfoot bathtub you don't you need to [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► be cool with strange sounds coming from [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► the bathroom all day and they can't use [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► it right that's part of it is it's your [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► space you're in there [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► yeah we're in there at the crack of noon [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► and you need that space for however long [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► it takes to finish your work [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► well the thing is it would be helpful if [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► that bathroom also had a little [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► kitchenette image oh you should do what [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► i do i just such that link to the coffee [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► dingus that i use here in my office my [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► mouth my office is kind of like a dorm [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► and I'm not by any means saying that you [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► should do anything like the literal [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► personal holocaust that is my office but [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► I've got a little hot water maker here [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► really nice little hot you know makes [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► hot water very quickly [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► yeah i got my sodastream machine I've [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► got a microwave from target and I've got [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► a pretty good-sized dorm fridge no [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► freezer and that's pretty much [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► everything I need to do basic stuff i [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► think that the point when I bring a hot [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► plate i need to hang it up but that's [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► what you need you need space for that [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► you need you need a master bath maybe so [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► my ideal situation is a master bathroom [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► with a kitchenette situated over a [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► Philly cheesesteak sandwich company in [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► an industrial area it that's very that [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► has been kind of colonized by artist so [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► maybe it's still a little transitional [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► write your novel transitional you got [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► your shirtless men with wrenches and [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► ladies stretching yeah so they're ladies [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► stretching over here there are guys like [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► stripping and repainting furniture over [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► here and then across the street [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► this is the furniture they're stripping [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► is a correct they are stripping it was [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► she's she is stretching ok she and that [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► you know just because the woman [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► stretches doesn't mean that she's going [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► to dance on a pole know and then they [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► are stripping furniture they are not [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► personally stripper and and there's a [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► coffee shop across the street where well [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► obviously you've got to have the right [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► tools at hand to do the kind of work [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► that you do you have to have a place to [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► put your tools you have to have a [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► workspace and you have to be surrounded [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► by things that inspire you know maybe [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► window which like a window do i would [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► like the window i need a window who did [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► light because I should I really you can [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► push her not a bathroom you're gonna [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► want a window [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► well but but the but the problem is and [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► I think we hit on this earlier I don't [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► know what I do [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► yeah I am i that i said this to somebody [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► the other day the e here [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► the solution is not your situation is [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► not such that you need to quit your [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► present job in order to pursue your [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► fantasy job [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► because you don't even know your fantasy [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► job is you need to start doing your [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► fantasy job until you're having so much [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► fun and success at that your that you [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► have to quit your real job because your [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► fantasy job has taken over and I and now [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► i'm going to do to podcast at three [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► because you pretty much summed it up but [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► my problem is I'm trying to get myself [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► out of the house to get myself into a [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► workplace so that i can begin to work [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► for the first time in many years [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► who and I and I honestly a part of me [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► both thrills and also despairs at the [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► prospect of sitting down at a desk in a [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► new space that I'm now paying money for [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► and staring out my this window that I [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► that we have just we've agreed i need [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► and saying now what now what do I do now [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► you have to now I turn the computer on [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► there's a certain amount of pressure on [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► you at that point because you have to [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► figure out what your work is your [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► payment that's good that might drive you [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► in some ways but you might even need a [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► transitional free space to go to figure [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► out what it is that you do that could be [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► something where you could have a home [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► maybe you could do something in your [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► barn you could have a transitional space [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► where you going to set up a fridge and [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► maybe have some ladies come out and [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► stretch but you can have an area where [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► you know what I'm saying before you walk [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► across Europe you might want to buy a [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► map [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► yeah but that's the thing when i walked [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► across Europe I did not buy a map first [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► that's true write that down ok and and [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► that wasn't going to watch you're not [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► okay i mean bag notwithstanding that [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► turned out pretty ok yeah that was the [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► bag and the boots both were wrong [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► mm you should have thought more I should [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► have thought long and hard about what [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► you do it differently now [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► I mean if you were that the job today [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► you you could talk to the John of then [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► and give him some tips on material i [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► would say that it's a change the bag [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► change the boots you know I got off the [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► airplane in London and I walked over to [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► the look the little newsagent there at [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► Heathrow and I started looking through [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► his rack of roadmaps trying to figure [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► out what route i was going to spend the [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► next six months six months walking dead [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► but and basically pick the roadmap that [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► was cheapest okay haha and and you know [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► walk out walk out out of his new jet the [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► newsagent shop walked out the pneumatic [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► doors in across the parking lot and then [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► continue to walk in the same direction [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► for six months and and and and bought [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► maps along the way that by that same [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► method just like I would rather I would [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► arrive at the end of one of the map i [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► was i was on the walk until I found a [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► new man he's walking here under mat and [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► I walk around on a map and then I i I'd [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► walk into the nearest place that's old [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► maps and and by-and-by the cheapest map [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► that keep going and that part of it [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► I honestly if i added to do over again I [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► wouldn't tell my i wouldn't tell my [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► young self to do anything any [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► differently because I i don't i don't [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► know how also which is obviously that [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► when you're thrust into a situation is [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► you know it's the same person obviously [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► if you change grown mature you learn [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► more about your work since then but you [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► know you sent me the kind of person who [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► wins I've seen this when you yelled at [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► me to call my mom what about that guys [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► busted a sports car you're someone who [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► and we're gonna talk about that but when [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► you get thrust that's what it's for [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► let me get thrust we get through when [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► you are thrust into a situation you [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► thrive you really are you're like that [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► you're like that marine who has all of [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► those skills you're like that CIA [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► operative who has this the skills just [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► waiting all the time and it's when you [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► it's when you're not in the shit that [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► you're my stress really going well I [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► have one a party what inspired this is I [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► have a friend who works in a corporate [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► office and she is a she is now in a [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► position where she is [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► her boss has just quit and her boss is [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► your baby mama this is the lady I know [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► and and her bosses just quit and her [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► boss was one of these like guys who work [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► there for 15 years and had had weaseled [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► his way into a vice-presidency at this [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► company but but really he's just a frat [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► boy [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► and and I think they gave him the [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► vice-presidency kind of out of a feeling [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► of obligation after he'd been there so [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► long so he quit and went to work [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► somewhere else set up at a at a pet [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► grooming place and right now there's a [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► vacancy in the corporate structure of [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► this company [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► there is no vice president of marketing [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► oh and my uh my friend is I think [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► ideally positioned within the company to [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► assume this job and it isn't maybe that [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► she will be promoted to vice president [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► of marketing but she certainly can be [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► the director of marketing is that is a [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► power vacuum there's a power vacuum and [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► although she isn't incredibly talented [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► and she does not think of herself as [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► someone who is ambitious in there in a [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► corporate way you know she doesn't when [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► she wakes up in the morning she doesn't [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► have she doesn't start sharpening her [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► fingernails to go gash the necks of her [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► competitors you know that's not how she [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► imagines herself although i think she [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► has the competitive skills to to succeed [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► in that world just need to unleash it [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► but in sitting and talking to her about [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► her her work situation or job situation [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► i get very excited because i don't have [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► I do not have the opportunity to [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► exercise those yeah those traits that [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► would succeed in a corporate life and I [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► and I have them you know i would i would [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► love to be in a boardroom situation [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► where other guys were competing to have [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► their plans implemented and i was using [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► all that I know about Machiavelli and [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► the art of war and all this shit that I [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► read over the years and you know and [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► thought about not with any I any [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► intention of ever becoming a corporate [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► person because i wanted to understand [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► how they thought and I and I'd like to [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► read other people's books you know I [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► like to read books that are that are [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► part of the Canon of like special areas [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► right huh where it's like oh you're not [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► gonna be interested in this book this is [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► a book for Hydra hydrologic engineers [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► and I'm like that's actually the kind of [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► book i'm very interested in uh huh [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► what are you guys saying to each other [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► that you don't want other people to know [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► anyway so I'm sitting and talking to her [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► about her her corporate life and I'm [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► kidding y'all you know getting like I'm [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► like listen [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► yeah I felt like I felt like that scene [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► in The Godfather I was like listen the [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► person that person that's that invites [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► you to that meeting right that's the one [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► that wants your head you know the it [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► will what you need to be on the lookout [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► for is the person that agrees with you [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► and then doesn't come to the first [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► meeting that he scheduled because they [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► were too busy [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► that's the person who's going to be [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► trying to for your product Italians a [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► pimp [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► he shall known that it was Barzini all [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► along it was Barzini hola and and she [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► take that council and and understand [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► what that could mean for her me what [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► happened sharp sharp claws yet but boy [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► just even knowing that [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► yeah i think i think it I think it [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► excites her know that I think the [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► challenge of a lot of people our age is [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► that we taught ourselves that are we [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► said to ourselves over and over as a as [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► a culture Generation X did this said to [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► ourselves [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► oh the real things in life that matter [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► to us are our friends and our and music [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► and these things you know we we [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► convinced ourselves that our jobs were [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► just these dumb things that we did that [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► didn't matter because we because we were [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► the ones that really enjoyed life and [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► now we're not gonna be duped by the [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► system that tells you leave the things [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► behind it and become this kind of person [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► yeah i just have to go to my job eight [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► hours a day but I really what i really [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► come alive when it's Miller time and [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► then and then when we become [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► forty-year-olds and we realized wait a [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► minute I'm style whether or not I was [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► duped i'm still spending 40 hours a week [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► in this place and if I don't take the [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► job that I'm doing seriously and if I [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► don't understand the actual culture not [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► the not the fantasy culture of of work [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► but the actual culture of work [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► then I'm then i'm going to top out and [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► then I'm gonna be the one I'm gonna be [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► the 50-year old or 60 year old that's [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► doing a job that 26 year-olds are doing [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► better and you know and I didn't I [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► didn't plan for this [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► you know I just suddenly you wake up and [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► you're living up to your potential [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► exactly and so so i could see the light [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► in her eyes like yeah actually i'm going [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► to go in and I'm going to start i'm [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► gonna start making a list of my enemies [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► and i'm going to start keeping a bucket [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► where I put the hearts of my foes when [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► they come into my office and transform [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► every executive need to photobucket you [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► know what you just have a bucket next [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► year decks and every once awhile your [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► float comes in and tries to the toy [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► store for you just ripped your heart out [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► and stick it in the bucket and the thing [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► is if you to be a really it seems I've [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► never finished the book but it seems to [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► me that you're going to be the Prince [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► you have to not and again with the art [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► of war right and the other for summarize [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► don't do what you think they're what [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► they think you're gonna do you know a [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► lot of ways I mean that's a wall street [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► level summary of it but in all these [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► though the part of the beauty part of [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► somebody who is a smart intelligent lady [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► who is obviously not sharp nails is that [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► is the perfect person to to get into the [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► power vacuum Zach and people they will [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► never know it's coming [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► yeah which one would you have expected a [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► enough support spoiler alert a pagoda [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► last person I would have considered if [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► we go to a different scene like it let [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► millions of dollars the smart one [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► yeah it was always this mark fault i'm [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► saying well the thing is at and and i [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► think the instinct that a lot of people [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► have in that situation is there's a [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► power vacuum i should go to the I should [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► go to my higher ups and ask them if it's [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► cool if I fill in this power vacuum [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► oh and you know oh my what I said to my [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► friend is listen if you do something [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► like that then that's not your power [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► that you will be you will not be using [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► your power or or or growing your power [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► you will be using their power and you're [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► just a proxy that's like getting [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► somebody to sign a form that you climbed [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► a mountain [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► yeah you need to walk into that power [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► back human and and fill it and what some [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► and by the time the higher-ups notice [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► you're already doing the job and then [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► they're like oh we could do a you know [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► we could go search for somebody to fill [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► this role or we could just [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► well this is a big part of being a [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► weasel and and I think the Machiavellian [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► thingy [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► this is it's a lot about how to become a [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► week on a good part about being a weasel [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► I've learned as a weasel is to make [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► things seem like someone else's idea and [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► this has been this is when I've been [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► effective which is pretty much never [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► it's this is work great because what you [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► have to do is a pair of silky almost [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► greasy pal thank you John i enjoy [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► visiting with you value our friendship [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► but this is the thing when she goes in [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► first of all she's she could be a [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► sleeper cell nobody's ever suspected [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► that she would come in and what the what [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► the pet grooming guys is she the shots [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► right she's a nice girl she did not she [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► did not seem like the one that was going [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► to start kicking doors down exactly now [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► if you want to fill the power vacuum you [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► have to do things or cause things to [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► happen that Mickey seem like not only [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► the right person to stick into that [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► Dyson but you've got to appear like the [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► only person in the whole world who could [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► take that thing and then you got to make [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► those shows at the top and click it was [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► their idea in the first place right and [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► my bullets mind let's help i think the [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► big the big challenge in a situation [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► like that is the chose that are at your [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► level that can't do that job but also [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► don't want you to succeed at it and so [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► they just become petulant about about [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► taking orders from you or about taking [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► even suggested especially if your lady [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► and those are the ones that you know I I [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► was advising her that she needs to she [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► needs to start scheduling these meetings [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► that are above her pay grade that are [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► her meetings and then she needs to go [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► around and make a coalition throughout [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► the office like stopping every one of [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► these guys is desks and say hey I'm [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► looking forward to this meeting on [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► monday and i really hope that that you [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► that you'll be there because I I think [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► you're your ideas in this are you know [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► are invaluable and we really need to [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► hear from you before we move forward [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► because you're the [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► kind of the gatekeeper for this segment [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► or whatever and just do that thing just [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► sit and like you're just strokin them [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► with one hand and they and they and they [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► feel the pressure of your knife point on [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► under there ribs but they're not exactly [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► sure whether it's a knife or a or just [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► trying to give them a strong hug and [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► they and they just think to themselves [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► like you give them the out where they're [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► like yeah I I gotta go to that meeting [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► because I if I don't then they're not [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► gonna that I'm whatever to you give them [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► that but at the same time they feel a [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► little bit they feel will endanger like [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► I i I'd better go to that movie [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► John I i if I could say I this is the [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► most excited I've heard you about sound [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► about anything in like the last 10 years [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► this is this and this sounds like this [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► could be i had one yeah this could be [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► your duck it seems to me that you guys [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► know this was your duck and it seems to [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► yeah I either side of your guy would be [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► i think i would be mrs. this is a this [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► is a silly ass thing on the surface of [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► it but i think i would be a great [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► corporate a boardroom person because I [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► see the because ultimately ago a company [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► operates according to a dynamic business [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► dynamic but it's a human dynamic and I [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► see through those things you know i have [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► i have a x-ray vision about [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► interpersonal stuff like that so and and [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► also you're also you're an outsider all [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► those guys are mired in that particular [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► kind of malignant culture you come in [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► from the outside and not only you're not [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► going to taking that bullshit you don't [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► even acknowledge the bullshit is there [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► you just drive right past it well and I [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► like to fertilize the garden watch it [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► grow [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► i also don't mind well wallowing in a [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► bucket of blood and somewhere between [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► fertilizing a garden and watching it [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► grow and you know sitting in a bathtub [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► knowing on the the shinbones of my [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► enemies [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► that's a bad is it that's basically a [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► CEO that's what a CEO does who and I [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► don't know what I keep waiting for [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► there's a tech startup that is being run [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► by a bunch of college monkeys who don't [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► know how to talk to each other and have [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► never looked another human in the eye [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► except while they were searching their [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► mother's face [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► that she would put her boob in their [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► mouth and these guys for whatever reason [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► they get in contact with me or they get [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► put in contact with me like hey we need [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► somebody to go talk to other people for [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► us because we're here busy making this [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► 3d digital printer that specializes in [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► in reproducing Cynthia plaster casters [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► Jimi Hendrix penis which let's be honest [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► there are practitioners their core [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► competency might be penis penis plaster [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► but but needless look at it this way [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► you're you're one of those college [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► monkeys and you somehow fallen [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► ass-backwards into a bunch of venture [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► capital money [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► well those guys this venture capital [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► guys want to see their 10x right there [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► is a gamble [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► i'm thinking maybe you're contacted by [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► the Monkees your contact by the zoo [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► master [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► oh I think the people you guys pick up a [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► red phone it rings in your bathtub you [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► pick it up and say John we need you say [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► i know i've already known [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► right right why you went there to find a [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► private corporate to bring literally out [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► by your house right next to the airport [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► if you step inside they say would you [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► would you like pina colada you say no [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► thanks [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► and then you are you land somewhere and [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► you walk in and let's be honest you can [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► be dressed really differently from them [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► you're going to look very different from [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► them and they're going to know the [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► things are changing and maybe maybe [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► maybe seems a little like your palate [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► first [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► yeah but you're empowered to be in power [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► you don't need you don't need a contract [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► you don't you don't need a mission [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► statement you all because i have a [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► seminar I was somewhat are tucked into [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► my exceptionally wide leather belt [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► that's what Mike my quarters are you [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► wearing a robe I there maybe I'm not [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► going to give away all my secrets [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► depends on the skull but you know [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► they're like this guy seems like a [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► friend this guy seems like our dead but [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► he has a sim attar he says of this shit [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► it seems like a real straight shooter [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► and the open his briefcase when there's [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► a blunderbuss [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► can you imagine the eyes around the [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► table they have what we in the business [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► call all hands meeting bring everybody [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► into the big room and Craft services [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► there they got fuckin artisanal coffee [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► and malaysian a bad throw rocks it with [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► a large leather belt with a sim attar [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► and it's surprisingly costly briefcase [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► that rattles when he walks he is missing [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► a front tooth allowing introduce you to [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► John John's gonna be running the company [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► from here on out it's crowded and you [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► know this is the thing I'm and you can [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► actually get your forest gumps you got [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► your bigs you got other Tom Hanks movies [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► you got you know the being there thing [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► where you've got this person who's [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► wandering around and everybody's [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► guessing all these things about what [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► they're doing right that you're guessing [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► that you know a big right you're [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► guessing the tom hanks who is a child [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► inside of a grown-up body is trying to [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► undermine everybody there's guessing [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► right you know what I mean they're [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► guessing that that chance the gardener [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► is is you know wants to be president [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► wants to do is watch TV I think it's the [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► same thing here [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► exactly except in Reverse which is you [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► come in you look a little bit like you [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► had a rough patch and they don't know if [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► that's a matar Israel but they're sure [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► it's fucking to find out right and then [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► it turns out might underestimate you [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► John i actually have a head for business [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► that no one could have foreseen the john [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► III think your work is is presenting [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► itself i mean you can still use still [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► dick around and make things on Twitter [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► and yeah I hope you still consider doing [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► the show after you've got that office or [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► maybe after year at the top of the child [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► building you might be the head showed em [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► well the thing is I'm gonna at first [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► thing I'm gonna do the moving company [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► out of the job building but the other [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► lists are you ready and come after [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► you've done this a couple times you know [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► you get a couple under your belt you can [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► come pick with those bits that you've [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► written like maybe on a subway for her [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► to come in and you've got John's not 11 [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► and 14 how many point being I think 14 [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► points the patient has 14 points i am a [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► limit our agenda and you come and you [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► spread it out you can with your finger [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► flick off a little bit of green pepper [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► and you show him how it's gonna go [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► yeah listen first thing we're out of the [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► child building we're spending too much [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► money here and we're surrounded by joke [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► you're pulling operations you tell us [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► when we gotta move we gotta move some of [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► these deck chairs around things are [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► things are going to change now when you [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► come in in that situation I think [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► obviously if you're introduced here's [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► the thing is one of the project manager [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► and yes you know i'ma pussy you have [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► some called a project mandate which is [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► when somebody powerful signs off on a [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► project and says you see this home a [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► pussy over here [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► this guy is allowed to speak for me oh [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► yeah right this is the power i'm talking [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► about its the sprocket mean it has it [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► has its uses but it's not a piece of [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► paper that makes it useful [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► it's the it's the powerful person who [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► people not just as in a position to fire [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► you but could potentially ruin you when [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► I person they've only seen pictures of [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► in the in the lobby of the building [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► comes in and says this is fucking John [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► sit down like a gentleman and listen [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► it's the threat of the summit are coming [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► down on their exposed nothing as he saw [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► you walk in with that and he was fine [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► with it like you're not you're not [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► you're not allowed to eat a burrito at [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► your desk but a man literally in a [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► bathroom with scimitars came in [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► introduce you you didn't say your last [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► name [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► yeah all you need to know this is john [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► shut the fuck up but when you come in [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► are you going to be so a lot of people [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► we have these cultural I you know I have [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► you know as you know I have some friends [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► that work at they make contacts and [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► tekken makes right hand and sometimes as [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► the company grows this happens but [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► you're just having happened [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► I want this is just as an outsider I see [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► this catastrophic thing happen where [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► they go the cultures all fucked up [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► let's bring in some fucktard from [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► somewhere else and they'll fix the [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► culture you know what I mean which is [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► you know I guess it's some sense of [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► fighting fire with fire but it never [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► works [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► yeah you you need a you need somebody [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► who is an agent of change isn't just [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► going to come in there and hand out [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► copies of starbucks book you want you [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► want to and it literally happened [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► yeah and also leave me I I know and I've [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► read enough of those things where I just [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► go uh-oh you're doing it wrong [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► it allows the shitty ones in the middle [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► of the middle ones at least pretend to [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► listen for a week right [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► but the really great ones i think on day [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► one you know things like fucking George [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► Patton walking in you he's not going to [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► sit around and go I'm just here to [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► listen right so go into you go in under [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► the radar or do you walk in with the CEO [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► that they've never met [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► could you know what actually you can [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► bring someone who looks like the CEO i [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► think i'll be equally effective but i [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► can when you can read an actor reenactor [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► and I've got a scimitar just in the [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► center of this back and saved by the [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► bell [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► shut up no you know that the the obvious [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► thing about businesses that I mean all [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► these people started a business and then [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► got to got it to the point where they're [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► in confidence now is the is the only [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► thing in their confidence is the only [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► blood that runs through these veins [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► you have no fucking idea how they make [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► money anymore where they know what maybe [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► that's the problem with these monkeys [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► they probably never made money they've [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► gotten checks from their mom and now [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► they got checks from somebody on sand [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► hill road and they've never had somebody [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► come in to get that tea out of your [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► mouth sit down and make a fucking 3d [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► printer you know what i mean and so [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► they're they're dicking around the [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► riding on slides to throwing balls [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► around three and Craft services but you [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► know I've been dealing with those people [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► i'm in and in another form for 25 years [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► which is what is rock that is rock and [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► roll [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► yeah I've been dealing with people they [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► can't look at another human being not [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► challenging ready on day one my whole [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► life and and dealing with people where [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► it's just like okay there's seven people [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► in the room with seven different agendas [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► and noone and and everybody is acting [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► like we all agree and the and the the [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► second there's a power vacuum this is [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► good it's going to turn into a lord of [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► the flies and really there's only one [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► person in the room that matters [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► there's only one person in the room that [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► whoever anybody should be paying any [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► attention to and that's the guy with the [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► idea the Senate are but well no not that [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► it in those situations is not the guy [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► with the scimitars there's usually a guy [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► that has the song [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► ok that's the guy that had the ideal [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► like you said in the studio this is this [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► is the guy this is the guy he says okay [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► why don't you take another hour to get [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► your solo where you want to be and then [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► we're done with that [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah and that you know and and [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► and and the fact that the drummer is the [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► loudest guy in the room where the [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► drummer is the guy with all the opinions [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► you know somebody needs to take the [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► drummer for a walk [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► somebody needs somebody needed [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► somebody's to say hey you know what I'm [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► thinking about having my car detailed do [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► you want to come out and take a look at [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► her [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► heard of so bag me to do you want to see [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► ya let me show you my office [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► let me show you my office is nice right [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► and suddenly the problem resolved [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► themselves [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► hey look what i have in my briefcase oh [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► it's a blunderbuss you know what a lot [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► of people in modern forensics you know [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► they're used to dealing with all of the [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► all the various kinds of munitions that [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► you see on the street today I'll [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► splatter patterns you had a sawed-off [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► blood plus it would know you know the [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► thing is you can make a blunderbuss with [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► the with the with a and stuff you buy it [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► up exactly the kind of thing that people [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► need to learn i did i did not know that [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► I think about this you think about back [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► in school [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► your public school and you get a walk [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► into class and there's a sub and like [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► there's usually two kinds of substitute [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► teachers just as soon as you said that I [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► got excited it was like a hoe substitute [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► today haha oh forget about it forget [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► about you come in there and it's in my [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► experience some of the time it will be [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► someone extremely old who mostly reason [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► to come back as he or really young like [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► a young teacher at the site that is [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► super dumb and and and wants to stick to [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► the lesson plan she's got the lesson [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► plan [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► she's read some books that but then [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► think about the time that you walked in [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► and the substitute teacher was a [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► forty-year-old that creep at a mustache [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► it doesn't it's not good i was thinking [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► I've been in so many situations where [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► you know I I'm whatever the opposite of [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► a handful is I was always happy to not [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► cause trouble by and large least for the [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► first you know 10 years but I you know [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► the thing is the class gets a little out [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► of control you know that lady that lady [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► with the handbook and that you've been [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► watching some some to Betamax tapes [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► about how to become a teacher and she [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► comes in there and it's immediately Lord [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► of the Flies everything's totally out of [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► control but you know what happens it [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► gets so bad she picks up the black phone [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► and in walks Frank careful [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► knoxville principal the vice-principal [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► the Dean of boys in walk somebody who is [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► a known hard-ass maybe somebody was [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► waiting on a tennis racket and swings in [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► a cafeteria [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► I'm saying oh it's only you I because [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► the first thing that guy does when he [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► walked in as he grabs me [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► me and says come on we're going down to [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► the office I'm gonna hurl [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► yeah let's go for a walk let me show you [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► what's in my briefcase well you know if [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► you cut off the head you know I'm saying [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► but I'm all I'm saying is like you know [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► what if you didn't even need the [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► principal in that instance if you walked [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► in there was a man with a seminar [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► standing there and he's already he's [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► already [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► I don't know are you mad or disappointed [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► or are you just what when you're the [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► substitute teacher i was going to say [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► was that the principal comes in and [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► suddenly everybody stands erect because [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► they know that this is not someone to [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► trifle with this is not a substitute [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► principal yeah this is the guy who holds [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► your hand yeah in every classroom when [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► you walk in the door and I and I know [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► this for many years were going to school [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► you walk in the door of a classroom on [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► the first day of school and you scan [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► those those chairs and you think which [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► chairs mine and there are a lot of kids [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► that grab that first row chairs is that [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► one of their because they're duggars and [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► they want to set up from and then [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► they're the they're the guys with the [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► mullets and the baseball hats on [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► backwards that are better grabbing that [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► last row of chairs who because they're [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► the guys that are in the back then [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► they're all the people that just fill in [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► just take a chair doesn't matter even [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► though this is a decision you be sitting [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► in this chair for the whole school year [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► we'll just walk in and grab a chair [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► whatever don't even think about it but I [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► was always looking for the power desk [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► and the power desk is toward the back [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► but not all the way in the back and it [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► is basically it's close to the windows [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► with her and it is in a position you're [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► in a position where you can control the [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► temperature of the classroom [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► it is basically the opposite pole from [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► the teacher's desk need to find the desk [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► in the classroom that is the opposite [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► pole of the teacher's desk and it [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► doesn't mean it's on the exact opposite [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► side of the room because it could be on [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► teachers side of the benefits going to [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► very heavily by classroom and invited by [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► setup it is the power pole that i would [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► try to find because because my goal in [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► every classroom was to be the opposite [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► pole of the teacher [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► to be the name that negative terminal to [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► their positive to me like the same [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► student and i would i would buy metadesk [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► and I would sit there and the first few [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► days of school I would it would just I [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► would just be so quiet and calm because [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► I wanted everyone in the class to just [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► get into a groove you really start to [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► develop relationships with the teacher I [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► was just so patient because they knew my [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► time would come and what it did then no [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► one no one ever sees it you know and a [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► lot of kids that they came up in school [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► with me do whatever i SAT like there [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► would be people that's that immediately [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► chose the seats kind of in that vicinity [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► because they wanted to be part of the [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► fun and student kids that's that as far [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► as they could because they didn't wanna [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► didn't even want to get in reflected [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► trouble they want to be in that shampoo [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► splashdown [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► damn you even one they didn't want any [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► didn't want the Smashing aider or [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► whatever the hell that Gallagher hammer [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► is didn't want any water mount on them [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► uh-huh and as a substitute teacher if i [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► were to be a substitute teacher in high [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► school I would walk into that class and [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► I would scream at room as the students [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► were sitting down and i was looking you [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► know they were still kind of making [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► noise and talk to each other and looking [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► at me with sidelong glances I would be [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► sitting up at the blackboard trying to [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► identify that opposite pole because you [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► can see it take shape in a classroom of [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► kids as they as they come in and sit [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► down you can see where that power pole [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► is by who the kids are and how they're [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► how they see themselves and how they you [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► know what how how they look at you how [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► they look at each other and i would i'd [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► try and zoom in on where that power [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► poles because that's the that's the only [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► chair that matters in a classroom that [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► you are that you are trying to teach for [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► one day [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you know what I mean like if you are you [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► in some ways looking for the younger and [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► less experienced version of yourself [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► well but but you can even in that poll [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► you know what you know what that seat is [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► you've been in that seat [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► yeah but about but that the opposite the [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► teachers opposite in every classroom [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► kind of difference that it's not always [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► the comedian or the the shit disturber [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► it's you know they're there are there [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► there can be a lot of variations on this [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► there's that there could be the [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► disgruntled girl that's never but it's [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► nothing is ever right you know that can [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► be your opposite it just depends on it [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► just depends like it and you can feel it [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► it's really it is if it's a matter of [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► feeling the room and if you walk into a [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► boardroom if you walk into any kind of [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► room where there are 25 people and that [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► where the 25 people know each other and [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► you are new with you look for that pole [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► you look for the the center of gravity [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► that exists in the room and that's you [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► know that and that's the part that's [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► kind of the axis that you have to focus [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► on you can't just start talking to the [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► front row because if you're giving your [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► you start giving your presentation like [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► hey everybody how's it going love to see [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► all your bright and smiling faces and [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► you're talking to the front row you're [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► gonna hear a sound from the back of the [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► room that you don't like there's gonna [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► be like up and then your then you've [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► lost it [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► the room is you know it's it's it's over [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► so anyway that as a substitute teacher [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► as a guy walking into a corporate [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► boardroom who as I do every time I walk [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► into a room where it's unfamiliar you [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► know I'm scanning people as they walk in [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► and watching you know who's the who is [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► my who's my opposite pole here who's the [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► one who thinks the room belongs to Ben [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► and and even you're way ahead of me [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► because I mean it seems to me that the [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► skills that you've accrued from being [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► such a problem make you uniquely capable [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► at going into a situation like that and [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► you know it just seems to me that given [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► that you are empowered by that guy from [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► safe from the city by the Bell you could [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► potentially come in and cut off [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► someone's left hand if you find the pole [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► if you come into the corporate boardroom [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► and you find one guy who looks like a [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► little bit full of beans [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► yeah maybe just a finger maybe take off [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► a pinky me just like Al Capone with a [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► baseball bat right just walk over and go [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► hey great to see III [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► I couldn't help but notice that you made [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► a fart sound a second ago and whack ohh [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► thats one finger you get nine left [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► oh right oh well I mean that time you [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► could always take more than that off it [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► isn't done but there's not enough [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► capriciousness and leadership there [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► should be I mean the whole idea of [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► decimation i think a lot of people don't [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► understand what that word means and then [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► you can correct me if I'm wrong as ever [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► but my understanding of destination was [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► the Romans would come in and say okay [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► you know who tried who tried to put [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► feces and the soldiers well and i'm [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► going to say not me [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► and so they did kill one out of every 10 [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► people and say let me ask you that [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► question again that's my understanding [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► of decimation was we make an example out [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► of one of you and then one-tenth of you [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► and then we just keep winning that down [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► until somebody's willing to tell us what [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► we want to know [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► yeah there's always you can always take [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► one tenth away and you get ever closer [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► 2012 not that much always get there [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► oh no although if you're talking about [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► an army of 100,000 man it says there's a [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► lot of blood in the river [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► yeah what's nobody said it wasn't any [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► time consuming and then run wasn't app [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► anyway you know everybody is so scared [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► about getting sued now people are scared [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► about getting sued so higher higher and [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► his lawyer that's right hire an actor [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► let them to him [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► people are afraid of getting sued who [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► are never in their lives ever ever ever [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► going to get sued [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► you know I I was backing into a parking [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► spot [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► not very long ago in front of us of a [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► hair salon hair and nail salon and it [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► was a tight parking spot and as I was [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► backing into the parking spot the UH I i [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► did not make it all the way in and this [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► is embarrassing for me to say it wasn't [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► it was an awkward spot offered Lee [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► situated it was not it was not a parking [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► lot parking concept problem but I had to [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► I had to pull out in and start again and [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► in the course of doing this the people [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► in the salon but the customers and the [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► salon people the worker people the sala [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► nieces [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► they took an interest in this and they [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► got up out of their chairs and all came [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► out onto the sidewalk because the car in [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► the back belong to one of the people at [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► the salon and as I'm backing into this [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► spot a second time one of the one of the [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► people says if you hit my car I'm gonna [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► sue you and this is I mean I'm talking [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► about like a bit if I had touched it [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► would've been like a little bump [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► I mean a little bump and it was a it was [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► a fascinating study in for me in the way [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► that people think the world works [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► you know and after I got out of the car [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► and they worse kind of still standing on [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► the sidewalk watching now my car be [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► parked i said i would like you to call [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► the police now so that we can begin this [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► lawsuit process and of course you know [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► there was a lot of shit talking back and [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► forth between me and these 11 girls [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► because that's out there that's how do [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► something yeah but this idea that that a [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► lot that the threat of a lawsuit has [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► filtered down in our culture to the [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► point that this person is this car that [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► i was about to bump into was in 1994 [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► Ford black s-10 pickup or whatever it [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► was not a thing [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► it was nothing like I felt like opening [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► my wall and throwing the money for that [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► truck was worth at her and demanding the [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► key right [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► um but this idea that you know it and [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► she did it like straight it was straight [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► face it like that out that the threat of [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► a lawsuit has become is the new I'm [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► gonna call the police [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► yeah I'm gonna call my mom and you and [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► you you scale that up to a world where [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► lawsuits actually do happen in in in [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► companies where people actually do sue [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► for discrimination or they do sue [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► for wrongful termination or they do sue [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► for sexual harassment and you apply that [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► that the fact that it that the the [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► thread is more real [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► but but that we all carry around in the [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► back of our minds the possibility that a [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► lawsuit is a thing that could be that we [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► could be hit with at any moment and it [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► it creates this inhibiting fear I think [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► nationwide and maybe even now around the [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► world and inhibiting fear of just doing [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► what you need and what needs to get done [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► at end and being who you are and the [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► reality about a lawsuit is that fuck you [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► really you're gonna you know like the [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► the number of lawsuits that it is it is [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► the it is a rare occasion when you can [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► get when you can get an actual lawsuit [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► off the ground and roll one you know [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► what I mean it like that spending like [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► $50,000 you gotta have the money you [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► gotta have a few you gotta have us that [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► you've got to have a case that makes [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► sense to everybody you have to have a [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► real burr in your saddle you know and [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► and yet I talk to people all the time [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► whether like well yeah I'd love to do [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► that but you know we'd probably get sued [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► it's like you know what you kind of take [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► the risk sometime sometimes that [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► yeah it is conceivable that you like [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► that you might get sued but but that is [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► a risk you need to take sometimes you [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► need to take the risk that you're gonna [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► get some remaining a little bit of the [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► altercation you had with with the fellow [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► at the bar who was not aware that punch [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► in the nose was something that really [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► could happen exactly right the kind of [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► person who threatens to say what did he [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► say to you this is there are [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► consequences [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► yeah right i mean that that it strikes [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► me that I you know I have friends who [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► are lawyers and friends who are not [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► acquaintances it seems to me that by and [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► large the people who I never here [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► threatening to sue someone is a lawyer [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► because they understand what it means it [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► up and it gets on the one hand it's sort [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► of like threatening to go to medical [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► school like if you get my [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► car I'm gonna go to medical school like [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► i'm gonna go spend a lot of time and [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► money for something that might work out [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► okay and i'm going to stop everything [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► but if you've ever been sued or have [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► actually sue somebody it seems like [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► about the most draining process in the [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► world [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► yeah so that's the thing as with people [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► who threaten make the violence as with [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► people who accuse other people being [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► hypocrites and as with people who are [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► constantly doing lawsuits I think [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► they're mainly scared of the thing that [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► they're threatening you with and assume [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► that that will work on you [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► yeah and so often does I mean you know [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► how many business situations do you know [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► where where everybody in the company [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► knows like this one person is the [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► problem [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► okay there's one person in this [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► situation is just a problem this person [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► needs to go and yet that should be like [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► point number three it's no John that is [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► so he just so many people you going to [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► talk to these places there is one person [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► that is just killing the place [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► yeah this guy needs to go but we can't [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► get rid of him why can't you get rid of [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► him [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► well because he had he might suit he's [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► got diabetes [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► yeah a mess with us yeah it's [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► discrimination discrimination or he just [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► might sue you know like you or or we [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► just don't have it all he doesn't even [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► need a reason just the whole idea that [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► we might this guy who obviously is a nut [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► job and that's why we need to get rid of [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► this is very nutjob eNOS that makes us [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► think that he's just the kind of nutjob [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► might see us right and when we have in [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► our corporate a it a boilerplate all the [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► reasons that you need to to a mass in [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► order to properly fire somebody and so [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► we have to even though that you know [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► this is our this is our internal policy [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► like we have to follow it to the letter [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► and we have to spend him and my mom [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► talks about this 30 years ago [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► there's like what there's one guy in the [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► in the place that needs to go but he but [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► but we ended up paying him for another [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► year until we could come around to his [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► performance review again where we had [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► documented his you know because he would [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► always improve right before it's like [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► trying to catch a dog shitting on the [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► run it's like you you have to like you [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► see you have to spend all of your time [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► like walking on eggshells and saying I [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► hope we finally catch this guy doing the [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► thing that we know we can the music [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► double yeah right and in some cases you [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► know you just have to fire the guy and [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► he and you know he's not gonna sue or if [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► he does he's gonna lose and what you're [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► so you're saying it's not like we are [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► saying is like yes suing will happen and [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► if you're at the show corporation they [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► probably have the resources to deal with [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► that kind of thing you certainly don't [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► want to invite things like nuisance [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► lawsuits obviously I but at the same [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► time you're saying that that leads to a [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► certain kind of what cultural [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► apprehensive pneus that makes us less [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► effective we become pussy certainly we [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► know what happens in a company and earn [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► any organization as you stop believing [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► in yourself you stop believing that you [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► doing the Lord's work because i am [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► because you see every day how you're [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► being hamstrung by this you know by [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► someone who is intentionally disruptive [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► and you need to you need to get think [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► that you need to get the cancer out and [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► as my dad used to say that's what [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► lawyers before I mean that's why we're [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► that's why they get the can throw get [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► the cancer out [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► oh I was I had lunch with Ken Jennings [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► the Jeopardy you get dressed up like [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► doctors [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► yeah we have a good time we go around [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► and knock on people's doors just as [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► doctors they aren't you yeah I already [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► give them exams actually die from that [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► bored me but in the as we were doing we [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► were having a good time and I realized [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► we had this brilliant idea which was a [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► company that hires celebrities to [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► deliver subpoenas haha right you get [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► celebrities on the level of ken jennings [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► where a lot of people have seen Ken [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► Jennings they know who he is Ken [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► Jennings comes to your office he goes [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► hey is you know is Mark Miller here and [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► the Secretary's like aren't you can [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► Jennings and he's like that's right here [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► to see Mark Miller and she's like let me [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► get him [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► she's like bart miller in Genesis here [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► the guy comes running out he's like oh [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► my god can gentleman ken jennings hands [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► in the little blue folder flat even [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► served ah oh yeah no one's ever gonna [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► see that coming [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► celebrity process service [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► uh-huh right let me become part of the [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► problem that's what that's not a bad [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► idea i mean that seems like that could [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► be a short afternoon of work and you [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► know I mean you just go up you do a [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► thing and you're done you can sign some [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► autographs you know why you're there and [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► so let's have a lot of downtime who and [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► that mean actually projects and i think [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► i think what happens with a lot of [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► celebrities as the bait that they start [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► to feel they start to feel like what's [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► the what's their place in the world [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► what's the point [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► like are they doing good are they part [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► of the are they part of the world [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► anymore they just living in there so you [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► know they're solid gold bathtub i'm [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► projecting boop about what it must be [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► like to be a celebrity but you know if [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► they were out there in the world meeting [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► people serving subpoenas I think it [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► would get given frame their life in a [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► good way [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► anyway that's the kind of thing that you [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► could probably put together you know you [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► know a lot of people who are down on [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► their luck then people would recognize [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► that's right a lot of recognizable [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► people who are between three projects we [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► weren't you in that one band i love i [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► love writing an interactive president of [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► the slap [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► you're just going to defend but he [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► didn't used to host the late-night talk [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► show that's left are you the guy from [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► that commercial you've been served [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► I really think that somewhere out there [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► there is a corporate job because you you [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► know my uncle my uncle a lumberjack know [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► this is michael jackson's uncle Cal [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► uncle Cal was a he started working he [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► was a [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► was a [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► player and he started he grew up here in [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► Washington his father was a dive at ten [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► that would drive around and like by [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► strawberry fields and and put together [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► this Empire kind of you know [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► agricultural Empire and my uncle Cal [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► started working in the lumber business [TS]

01:00:20 ◼   ► in the in the fifties and sixties when [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► when in the northwest cutting down trees [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► was still seen as environmental work you [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► know when you're metal work of a kind my [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► dear my environment the the process of [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► turning my dad into an environmentalist [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► was and this is a thing that people are [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► generation at have a hard time grasping [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► was that my dad's generation believed [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► that that to be an environmentalist [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► meant that you went out in the forest [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► breathing deep of the mountain air and [TS]

01:00:57 ◼   ► chopped the fuck down some trees because [TS]

01:01:00 ◼   ► that was all that was the hardy kind of [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► outdoorsy man that that made America [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► strong of the idea of conserving trees [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► or not chopping down a tree had never [TS]