Ep. 48: "Wherever Trail Needs to Be Built"
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photo know what is it just this isn't at
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oh hello this is a test call while
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you're calling me how did you get this
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I like it how does my voice sound oh my
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god it's never sounded so clear
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really I feel like you are sitting here
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on my lap which would be buried on ready
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from my paddling Santa setting that I'm
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in the altogether
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I'll come on it's so sad if you were
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sitting here right now huh it because it
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would cause you to question all those
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things that you think you've already
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figured out with it
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yeah like do I want to be on a naked
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man's lap mmm I bet that's a question
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you didn't think you were gonna have to
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ask yourself today i woke up a ladder
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know what 3-4 hours ago and have to be
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honestly there are a lot of questions I
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and as you do and first thing in the
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morning yeah you know when I went in the
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room with that chair i was super
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cautious about it I i never got real
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near the chair i use I i like to use a
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an intermediary layer like a towel
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around your gonna make me bring up our
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heels again are you don't bring up our
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he put paper towels and paper towels and
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toilet paper on everything you know what
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I'm i live in the northwest and i
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conserve paper towels i use washable
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towels between me and everything is
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ending LOL you did you know you know how
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much disease could be carried on those
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but that but i would just be carrying it
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right down to the Washington it's your
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disease for one right party now as far
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as i know this is starting to sound like
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billy corgan lyrics
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what do you think of that drummer who
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cares yeah that's smashing pumpkins suit
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cares man you know if you ever have
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serious they were always so serious I i
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had there was a guy when I was i I just
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went down this list i was about to say
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he was my mental list like in terminator
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where say fuck you asshole
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could this list i was about to say he
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was my roommate and I was like oh
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actually I didn't live in that house i
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was just crashing on the couch and then
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I realized he didn't live in that house
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either he's just crashing on the couch
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neither of us were we weren't actually
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roommate but we lived in the same house
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for a long it should be a stickler for
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that the two guys co-host the two guys
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that did live in the house i'm sure if
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they were listening to this podcast
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they'd be like god those two guys like
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those guys but this guy David and I both
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were crashing in this house for a time
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and I was starting to play music you
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know justjust then you know early
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nineties and he was playing the smashing
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pumpkins gifts at one point and I walked
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in to him it wasn't his room plus
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another guy's room and walked into the
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room where he was and I was like this
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music I don't know not that good and he
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said eternity and very seriously he was
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like never in your life will you ever
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make a thing as wonderful as true as
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smashing pumpkins gish em and I was like
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well consider that a challenge
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mmm is that something is that some here
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to live with yeah I'm still not sure if
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I have I still I'm still not sure if i
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have if I've accomplished smashing
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pumpkins gifts level of artistic
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greatness like yeah I like that one part
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of that one song goes out about a bomb
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and the rest of the bend I like the bend
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and then his voice is like oh what a
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woman using his extraordinary he's a
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classic is a classic example of it of a
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nineties eighties and nineties singer
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who made his career michael stipe is
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another one who made his career having
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unintelligible vocals mixed really low
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who and then at a certain point he got
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famous and people were telling him how
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great he was and then he started going
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into the studio in the same mix my
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vocals up and oh yeah and also you know
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rough time the the vocals come up next
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shave their head to thank you
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hello them so the locals come up ahead
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get shaved and then all of a sudden the
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fans are like wait a minute you're not
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saying anything you're just reading the
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ingredients off the back of a cereal box
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or is this is meaningless like Michael
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stripes lyrics were so enigmatic to me
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through the eighties and then as soon as
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he started a
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as soon as you can hear them I was like
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these are enigmatic these are these are
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dumb ass and then billy corgan was never
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any matter to me but but as soon as I
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could hear it better I realized he's a
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bad singer he and i think he boy right
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yeah hate to speak ill of somebody from
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Illinois but I i think i think he really
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appeals to a certain type em I do idea
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was well I don't know here's the thing
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he loves food
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LARPers haha do you remember that sure
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this is zero he didn't he had a star
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he became like Charlie Brown now I mean
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in addition to being bald you can always
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wear the same shirt and was always a
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little bit sad you know and tall guy I
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think oh you sure about that i think
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that that's that lady the sad lady on
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the base was tall I thought she was
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small I don't know about the what about
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the way to go to tweak what about the
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little guy but he seemed pretty sad too
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he has solo record i remember the little
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guy yeah one of those guys died of
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heroin no heroin
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well somebody are you sure i think so i
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have a ticket on the pretenders no no I
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have somebody from every man died of
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heroin but i'm pretty sure the summer I
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somebody from this man died of heroin
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whose that's nothing
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the cloud know that heroin never funny
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heroin is in the category of rape and
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America rules anyway let's talk about
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the William cat program from the early
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eighties I'm sorry I even brought it up
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but there's a great story of billy
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corgan in the studio and he was
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auditioning drummers after i guess maybe
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as drummer died of heroin or maybe his
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drummer kick down like this up but but
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but anyway he was auditioning drummers
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and he he was auditioning like famous
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drummers and when they would sit there
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that he would come into the room maybe
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they're at their kit like ready to
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rehearse are ready to audition and he
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would refer to them as drummer
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oh really drummer let's play that one
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more time drummer let's can you do that
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a little bit slower next like the way
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you refer to your show for his driver i
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believe so i think it's okay to refer to
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someone who's not in the room with the
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is the definite article it is not cool
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to remove the definite
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article when the person you're speaking
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to the person
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yeah I don't think that's that's not
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appropriate somebody's painting your
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house you don't go outside and say
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painter I want you to i mean i don't
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know i want a couple people that couple
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people in Northwest bands who might do
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water water my flight boards to speak in
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35 minutes
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just give me a light boarding we're
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getting very close to call it the
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territory now haha open but these are
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the videos opener but he never referred
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to me as opener but i think it was
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because there was the heat it even
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through all of his condescension to me
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there was enough there was enough just
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native fear and I was gonna eat his face
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yeah some summer 1996 according to this
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very old web page is the keyboardist
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from the band smashing pumpkins you do
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not have like foo fighters do not have a
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definite article on their name
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keyboardist keep talking about a para
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one you know all the keyboard is almost
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never a real member of the band after
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about 19 gonna say after what was his
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name jonathan cain i'm going to say
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after journey there weren't that many
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people unless it was the primary
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interesting and is instrumentalist like
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the great Billy Joel there are not that
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many people i kid i kid i kid i'm comin
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around comin around a little um yeah the
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guy who played his keyboard literally
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fastened to the outside of a warehouse
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building in that famous video
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dun dun dun and dun dun dun and I know
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they're talking about with the shaking
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your fist at the camera yeah the fish
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acres boy that video was tough to watch
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and had sleeveless shirts for of the
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time you know Jonathan can you know
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Jonathan Cain I think he's got the
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writing credit a big writing credit on
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open arms memory serves
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oh well I think he's a great musician
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yeah you know who you know who has a lot
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of dead keyboard players is the Grateful
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Dead is that right all that pic then
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pick them right and then also some
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peanuts character i'll mention in
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passing
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yeah he he did not make it all the way
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and and then their keyboard player later
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from the from the seventies and eighties
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who also died of the heroin
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then i speaking of REM didn't they
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briefly have an undead keyboard player
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brett midland was the keyboard player of
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the the grateful dead and he died when I
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was that he died right at the time there
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was a brief moment in my life when I
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socialized interacted with socially
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deadheads really huh
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and i'm going to say that this was the
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summer of nineteen ninety the summer of
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nineteen ninety when i was living in
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Washington DC and I went through a brief
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period where I when I was socializing
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with grateful dead people because i was
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working for ralph nader at the time in
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Washington DC and I had a lot of his
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volunteered
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ok that anyway that right at that time
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brent midland died of heroin and and he
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was a mean and and I had understood
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understood the grateful dead for many
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years I i knew i knew a lot about them
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but he was he was not a Kanaan goal for
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me member of the band like he was he was
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like o.o who like the guy the bearded
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guy over make sure but he died and and
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all these people like these girls that I
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kind of was wondering about whether
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maybe you know what maybe we could we
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could have a thing maybe we would take a
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long motorcycle ride or whatever and
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they were all crying like crying real
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tears of sorrow at the death of brent
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Midland and and i realized that i could
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never I could never be a full grateful
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dead person because I didn't have this I
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didn't my feelings are not that strong
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about about the about newly keyboard
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well I mean I never I mean that guy was
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i as far as i can tell he never said a
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word interviews he was just like cipher
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found something a little bit troubling
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there's a pretty good chance for
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Republicans have to cut this out
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it seems to me first of all the Grateful
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never ended
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they're all going on somewhere that's
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probably separate topic it seems to me
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the keyboard players are usually the one
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who dies in the Grateful Dead they have
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had at least this is an old joke like
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drummers are dumb like this is it just
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me or do keyboard players just fucking
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I every keyboard player but the Grateful
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including i might add Bruce Hornsby huh
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but who is not dead as far as i know but
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I you know I imagined having been a
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keyboard player in a band that was the
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keyboard player and harvey danger before
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before my my big bases are either watch
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your ass buddy
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well but this is the thing you sit
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behind the keyboard it's a thankless job
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you can't you can't get up
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there's nothing exciting about right i
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mean the band is it even in the moment
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even in the band's peak moment at the
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top of the set where you're just like
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flying and your you guys are just
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playing the plan your absolute playing
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your number-one hit you are sitting
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behind a desk
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keyboard player might make like standing
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up or kicking over his chair or being
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Billy Joel or fastening your keyboard to
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the side of a warehousing none of those
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things can take away that the the like
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incontrovertible truth that you are a
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man behind a desk
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even if you even if you have if i may
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say a quitar that's really more of the
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other the desktop are it's a desktop
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you're just a guy standing up at a desk
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you saw the queens of the stone age when
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they had the female keyboard player who
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had worked up a keyboard stand where the
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keyboard was actually like teetering
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forward sonic so you could see her licks
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you can see her licks and she was
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playing like like over the top of this
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thing it was the weirdest looking
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keyboard stand and she was a cute coffee
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girl and they were hard rock band he
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never saw this i think that was standing
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at a desk i'll be damned and you know
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the thing I think you're onto something
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here I think there are now what about
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what about drummers do you think do you
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think drumming is a desk
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oh interesting because here's why I'm
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gonna give you some examples well first
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of all let's cover the obvious ground
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here it's a desk of cans
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it's a desk cans hmm now i know now the
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thing is there have been many people
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have tried to address this problem
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trying to remember some specifics here
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now as you say this this queens of the
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stone age lady had a how-to
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forward-leaning one I feel like guess
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I've seen key Tars I just I just don't
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understand I mean that did that the
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indignity of a quitar I mean that that's
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like a tar and feathering when it comes
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to being in a band
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I mean how do you choose QC please hand
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me the keytar I don't think I think if
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it get on armour llamar big on the
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keytar if you and I were younger
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uh-huh if we were 23 years old and we
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were both right now let's say I was
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wearing white bar days and you were
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wearing some sunglasses that you got for
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free from a bank check and we were
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starting a band that was a pastiche of a
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tease disco-pop and nineties indie rock
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and I don't know what the kids any a pop
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hip-hop here's our band and one of and
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there's there's one quitar and you and I
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have to flip for who plays it
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okay i think is it is it is it fixed
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corners at the fair calling i think it's
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a fair corn and I i think i think we
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would be I think the person who didn't
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get the keytar would be disappointed if
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we were 2300 you're saying you're 20
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teaching 23 in period i think especially
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let's be honest especially not home i
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couldn't i do this thing that I know for
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comments by this thing I called The
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Wolverine cord because what you know
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over he's got these three claws I can
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play on actually talked about this is
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your home should i can place nicht I can
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play almost any cool i complete half
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Bell no one should get angry but calm
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can play almost any major minor or
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suspended 4th chord as long as you can
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see with my three hand fingers on my
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right hand so any any suspended chord as
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long as it's in see well I you know like
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everyone as you know I prefer ad
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suspended 4th but i would need to have I
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think it's called I things which are the
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cold calls concert tuning I have to
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reconstitute down to dr drop DSA
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Jonathan Jonathan Coulton
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explain explain that to me and I still
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don't really understand it
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yeah and if you are a much better guitar
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player than you let on
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mm I think you've actually taught my god
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that's such a nice thing to say John I
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thought you that little country thing
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yeah but watching you play the guitar it
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you have the you have that quality that
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a that I IC kind of very seldom or a
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person with an artistic impulse picks up
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an instrument teaches it to themselves
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one else would have thought of
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backwards because i learned from fake
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yeah or or just kind of your approach to
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the instrument it's like oh this is this
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is interesting i'm watching this now and
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I'm seeing something I haven't seen
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anything it's a different approach to
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you use memory serves you started on
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tennis rackets playing along to except
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British steel I by started on tennis
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rackets and then I've told you this
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story and I when I went to a punk rock
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show and it was one of those shows in
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anchorage in the early eighties where
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there were five bands on the bill and
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between all five bands that was one
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person who had never seen an instrument
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before or it could do anything with it
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was just it was just a DIY it was at the
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youth center and it was just a pure
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racket about that one of the bands came
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out on stage and the guitar player like
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smashed his guitar all over the place
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and I Iran up after the after their set
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and grab the neck of his guitar and and
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I honestly it was like it was like Eric
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Clapton had given me his his prized
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Black stratocaster that how much I
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prized this broken neck from Ann Arbor
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that was an arbor Explorer copy or
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something like that like to this neck
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home and I now I had a real guitar neck
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anything I had a second Holocaust
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keyboards doesn't make any sound you
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practice on it but it doesn't make a
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noise and I have here here it was this
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this Mecca was a real neck and so I
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tried for a while to like air guitar
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just with the neck of the guitar but i
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found it insufficient that's like
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masturbating with just your balls hang
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you know i could write that if I haven't
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tried ready for a change in a minute
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just anyway so I went out to the garage
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at one point and I
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found an old chess board and i took the
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chessboard and I attached the guitar
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next to like it thick wooden heavy chest
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just bored right and I and I screwed i
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took took this screwdriver and I screwed
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this guitar neck into the chessboard
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accept because you remember this is the
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early eighties where checkerboard was a
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very popular motif and I screwed the
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neck of the guitar into this into this
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checker chessboard but i put i put it
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and I put it at a at an angle so that
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the guitar was actually a diamond shape
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haha man writes right and then I had a
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home-made air guitar that was no I was
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better than a tennis racket because no
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one had one that looked like this and
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and I air guitar too many many many a ZZ
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top song with that thing before I
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decided that it was time to learn how to
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play the guitar
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I you know what in its own really
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twisted way I think that's kind of
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healthy and interesting didn't do you
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think I mean more so more so than if you
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just stuck with a tennis racket
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you know what I mean you would be doing
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a pretty standard like John Hughes movie
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way to learn guitar right in your case I
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think you're going a little bit more
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backwoods and I really respect that i
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made my first instrument even though it
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was not actually an instrument it was a
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fake instrument but anyhow what Les Paul
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started maybe less bass guitars didn't
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make sound first interesting thought
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let's get you gotta start somewhere
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right right I like that idea well I mean
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this guitar and heft it had a real next
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something i could run my hands up and
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down and feel the frets underneath it
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individual let's see what my top air
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guitar records were littered Skynyrd's
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golden platinum that's a greatest hits
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double album know
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this was these are these are vinyl
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records of course who uh let's see what
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else did I your guitar a lot to Billy
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Squires emotions emotions of course Van
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Halen a women and children first palm an
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great air guitar right that's the one
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yes oh my god and you know what I I'm
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not afraid to say uh the Scorpions
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worldwide live oh well why would you be
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afraid to say that you know what I mean
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that's a record that that's a record
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that a lot of people don't listen to now
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I said before the other night and her
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can't live without you and I just kind
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of naturally unconsciously I just
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couldn't help but you started singing
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along with the course you have to
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because the scorpions are great and the
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scorpions as you have said are the great
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working men of the metal the great
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working men of metal and and they're
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Germans to boot the came to Alaska and
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they gave what's that cloud not class-
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uh not written shanker uh oh yeah
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Mattias jobs he gave me the IDK yeah
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that's right let's get this rocking his
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I think you know what i did your this is
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a lot of overlap here I was scared of
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Judas Priest alright as you would be out
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yeah yeah i mean like British steel that
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was something like the bad kids and
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denim jackets wrote on their folders if
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they have folders London have folders
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within trailer homes you know I met the
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other day I met the guitar tech for Iron
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no way yeah I met about on the street in
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Seattle during bumbershoot we think they
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play the play at eight or nine that
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probably pretty small though who knows
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that steve harris Blacula second base
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he's amazing isn't it ok this guy this
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lot of English a touring soundman guitar
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tech that right people
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yes I have and they all share a similar
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character which is to say that they are
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there like working very working-class
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they're very no-nonsense and and that
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they give off the picking off the air
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that they're like tough guys like the
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like the like fuck you kind of tough
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tough tough dude stuff English guys who
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but when you really you know get to meet
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them you realize that their guitar tech
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so that they could be very gentle with a
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young girl
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yeah they're functionally pussies who
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but uh but they live in this like
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rough-and-tumble world where they're
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touring around they kind of bait they
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adopt a manner of like interstate
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truckers but in fact they're just tuning
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guitars all day it's not like there no
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knife but as you learned from i think
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probably forty two percent of all ac/dc
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songs it's very hard to be a touring
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rock band
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oh hello boy they got a lot of songs
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about how hard it is to be in a
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successful pant well because they were
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getting new and more virulent strains of
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herpes every night is that right yeah
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that's why it was so hard being a CD
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imagine how hard it would be to travel
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with herpes
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well or just like every night like oh my
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herpes is killing me a menu planned what
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happens if you get if you get if you get
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a stress bump on your way
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I think this is the color in Australia
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you know what that does it opens you up
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to another infection it's like you get a
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wound you met a wound
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all right now this is i I'm sorry to
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take it here yeah but but the
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conversation has naturally arrived here
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ok this is not a thing that i am
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introducing unnatural I didn't kiss
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anybody bad but my understanding i just
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learned this last night ok is that in
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certain orthodox jewish communities the
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the the rabbi who performs the
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circumcision the amul actually performs
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the last he uses a knife to cut the
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foreskin he actually performs the last
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portion of that ceremony with his mouth
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this or you hm he jumped on you sure
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this isn't one of those does make in
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making babies in the mouth spread things
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because this could cause us a lot of
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trouble are you saying that this is this
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is a protocol the elders of zion problem
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no I heard this I bring you heard this
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your business on the English ready for
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this Lauren is the crazy problem in
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God's with the year that you guys we put
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his mouth right on round round the penis
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I came to the next 90 min but in any
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case the problem is that in New York
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City seventy percent of all men have
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herpes oh Jesus just a letter with the
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fuck did you come up with that every
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outlaw this practice or they're trying
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to outlaw this practice because that is
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a long walk through a discredited
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university my grandma dies rabbis are
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giving newborn babies herpes from the
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mouse but i don't wanna try to make this
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about Howard he's but this is the
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problem with contagion contagion is
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intelligence but this is the problem
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with contagion it's also the problem of
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hearing stuff from somebody and then
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saying it on the interwebs huh
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but you know what I'm going to have to
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do I my first real clean my keyboard and
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then I'm gonna do a lot of research and
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probably cut almost all this out but
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that's that's that's remarkably 677 out
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of ten men in now is this in the in the
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metropolitan new york area i'm going to
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say that it's all of New York including
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staten island all the borough's this
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jonathan coulton know this is you know
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this too well I don't know the people
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that I travel a lot John if he does but
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i but these are people in New York or
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getting herpes in New York and they're
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still getting herpes are people still
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getting herpes John Kasich they are they
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get it from the you know they read those
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subways they're all close to each other
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cocky you-know-what probably herpes is
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probably going through there like like
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like electricity through a Tesla coil
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oh just from one end of the training
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that I mean that's just--that's just
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miserable now do you think that you have
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any sense of the other ladies in the
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metropolitan area give are they aware
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they are they aware of this fact and B
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are they taking precautions are they
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staying off the subways in the Tesla
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coils my senses that girls in New York
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don't really make themselves available
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for something mr. can women get her
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pieces that dunno
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I think okay legitimate her piece its
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much it's much easier to get pregnant
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ya nah if you're a woman than it is to
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get her peace
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okay um I would you know what seventeen
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percent 70-percent John that is a lot of
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percent that's even more than a
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plurality it's alright that's a lot i am
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that you would be that's enough to that
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that's enough to overcome a filibuster
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you know what W great new name for cold
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sores and what would filibuster you can
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see I got want to try to break this
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filibuster I like that that it's
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something
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okay well moving on us so we've got
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we've got you covered on the ground
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already this entry I made a joke the
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other day that that storming your
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embassy was going to be my new my new
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way of my new euphemism her having sex
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with someone like you to break in and
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then somebody on facebook was like give
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me a lecture about the American heroes
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dying overseas and now it wasn't funny
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yeah well why don't you take this up
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over on the pro and a forum
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you're like a pro anna form that's a
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rough ride haha oh god I wish I had a
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cough button yeah off button my mind
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where I'm going to say probably break
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out by scorpions which I got to the
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columbia music music organization i got
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it let's see i would say definitely
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blizzard of Oz blizzard of Oz what you
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went to the Washington State Fair the
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other day who and everywhere I went like
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all the different all the different
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f-fair things where you throw the the
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darts at the balloons are you through
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the hoops at the bottles or whatever
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they were all playing different Ozzy
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tracks to track people I guess I mean
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they were playing Ozzy at the at the
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state fair in 1980 and I'm just
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wondering
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it's been a long time since I've been to
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a State Fair is Ozzy just like state
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fair music you might be a wormhole you
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might you might be in a Washington
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wormhole you know I it is weird it is
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weird that the these kinds of these
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horrible horrible events just full of
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terrible bad people have been around for
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centuries right you get the 7000 right
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come to town you got your maximum sit
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out and you go around and play chess and
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shit like that has been around forever
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come into town and fucking shit up but
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it is a funny thing that everything that
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happens at one of these traveling fares
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feels like it's happening somewhere
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between making 72 in 1981 maybe I'm
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right like carnies are stuck there
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forever like what did they give away
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before coke mirrors we covered this been
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in a previous visit but it seems to me
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that a lot of the prizes you've got
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you've got stuffed animals that are
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extremely hard
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yeah we've ever felt stuffed animal from
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a fair it's not the central question i
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think i think it's tough with like
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sawdust and you know like counterfeit
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money or something
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yeah well here are the things that have
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drugs i bet a surprising number of them
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have an amount of drugs in the people
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forgot about it they have that I don't
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think the drugs are inside but the dr
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there's definitely drugs on the fur here
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are the things that I saw for the first
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time in a state fair
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ok i saw a coke bottle that had been
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heated up and X and pulled so that it
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was like four feet tall
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spooky remember that i still remember
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that have a listen to how do they do
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that's right and then I i saw the the
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invisible dog where you have the have
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the dog leash and then there's a harness
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but it in but there's no dog in it you
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know what I'm talking about idea perhaps
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it's got the invisible doc invisible dog
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I saw my first Coke mirror I saw my
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first feathered ear rings / rotate
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teehee roach clip roll clip earring that
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these are before these are before you
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could buy dreamcatchers on the open
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market but there really is that they're
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all that the Venn diagram is is really
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exhausted i think when it comes to dream
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catchers I think he moved straight from
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feathered roach clip into a dreamcatcher
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not just for once worked on I think
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dream catchers don't work can you know
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that for sure
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well you ever seen the car and Western
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countries are in that's true maybe
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that's the bedroom catches supposed to
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be writing worry dolls they're supposed
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to be something where they let you catch
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your dreams and let's all the bad
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thoughts go through
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oh i'm with you that when I would go to
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those places even I always felt because
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because I most words you used about
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English pussies what you call them
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I'm the roadies menifee I wasn't really
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so many angry letters
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yeah remember the quill pen given that
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up now I would always feel a little bit
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ministers is all kinds of the
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you know we get obviously got a lot of
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fried foods you get a lot of corn dogs
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you get a lot of you know what I don't
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ever saw have to get back to being a cop
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button i remember on one occasion my
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best friend John and I went to disney
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world when i was about that have to be
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about 13 or 14 and agents was entirely
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inappropriate we had matching airbrushed
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shirts with the cover of wolverine
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number one on it and we don't say Merlyn
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John remember Big they might have but
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like on each other's BFF now we were too
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we were to really awkward guys in
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matching airbrushed t-shirts and we each
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went to the magic shop and bought a
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plastic faucet with a suction cup on it
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and we'll alert word on foreheads for
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the high i had that I never worked on my
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forehead but I had it
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John I know you're not a physiologist
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but give a pretty good idea can you just
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guess what happens when you wear a very
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very powerful suction cup on your
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forehead for nine hours you get a black
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and blue giant a circle on your forehead
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it's like a faucet a key like appointing
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to God for really much really bad for
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one day but for close to three days and
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looks like somebody hit me on the head
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with extreme precision and made a an
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exact circle of purple on my head
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Oh at that exact same age yeah i was
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sitting in the lunch room at one point
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sucking all the air out of it to create
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a vacuum at so that this cup was like
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around mine around my nose and mouth I
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guess right and i had i actually
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appreciate you want to push it right
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I wanted to push it push it all the way
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and I had this black and blue circle
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around my face it was the equivalent
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really up love sticking your tongue to
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up to a frozen pole that's such a duel
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for 4 days after that I just had this
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like there's nothing you can do you
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can't stay home from school you know
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it's not going to be any different you
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remember the trick to get somebody
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Hickey supposedly you can run a comb
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over it every remember that trick
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no I was a good i was a pretty big
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Hickey giver I didn't realize I was
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doing and I think I might have been been
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possessed or something
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I never gave a hickey and I wouldn't
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allow somebody to give me a key in fact
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to this day if somebody starts sucking
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on my neck I'm okay
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hey hey easy easy that because i was
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that because of your perimeter because
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your body is a temple what's the
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thinking just don't enjoy it
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alright so i was at a civil war Civil
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Air Patrol encampment in about nineteen
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eighty-one and this was a coed
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encampment although there i have to say
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there were not that many girls in the
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Civil Air Patrol but there were some it
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was that it was and it was a it was a
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two-week-long encampment at Eielson Air
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Force Base in Fairbanks Alaska and we
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were occupied we were all staying in the
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old build barracks that had been built
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during world war two who and at one
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point one of the guys got a hickey from
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one of the girls and it was this
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terrible purple welt and there was no
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there was no disguising it because we're
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in uniform you know where we're wearing
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our dress blue uniforms you can't like
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accessorize that with a scar me and I
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like clean Elizabeth the first camp
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no no we weren't we will get we weren't
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in the in Elizabethan Air Force camp
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Dickie camp and so he had to like stand
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there at at at inspection in his blues
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or what I guess inspection he was he
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would have been in his fatigues but but
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with this giant pulsating purple mess on
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his neck and the UH the sergeant who of
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course was also 13 years old
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this is the inspecting they're expecting
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off unconditioned officer
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yeah the noncommissioned officer I mean
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I was 11 and the guy with the he was
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probably 13 let's say that lets say the
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the sergeant was 15 just dressed him
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down in front of everybody but
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unprofessional and you know unmilitary
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out of uniform all this type of thing
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and it left a lasting impression on me
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that if you got a hickey you would be
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out of uniform there was no you you
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could you could not be you could not be
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in uniform with a hickey
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ah one unusual angle it's like they
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don't let you get neck tattoos in the
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Navy because you're out of uniform
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foo so that stuck with me until this day
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and that is a distraction to spring
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decor and that's exactly right and i
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don't i don't like to be out of uniform
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you know that about me no no you see it
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seems to me that as eclectic as your
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wardrobe is you you have an innate sense
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of what the what the uniform of his
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waist called military school uniform of
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the day is precisely would announce that
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everyday at our school is almost always
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the same thing but you have to be ready
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United put your blues on just yet so you
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know when I wake up in the morning I
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have the im a series of questions that I
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ask right away as you do and but also I
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I listen for the uniform of the day
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announcement sometimes it says space
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cowboy has your job gotten hotter than
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fresh pumpkin chili tired of kissing the
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wrong bird mired down by your managers
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fear of even the slightest vision and
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corporate discourse
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workplace
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you can even work from home and you're
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altogether sealed to your red leather
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chair just steps away from all your
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favorite globes candlesticks and cowboy
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boots as you do so go to glue
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team in from the cold by getting inside
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says and you say you say yes sir i can
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do that
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yes sir sometimes it says preppy asshole
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sometimes it says like you know coke
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I never I never did much of anything on
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a team and when I did things on a team I
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didn't do it well but there are certain
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things I picked up in military school
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including the cold sore that I I'm
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really glad I kept with me and I think
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that I think about a lot and when
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somebody says about face you know how to
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about film and I can still do it always
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talked about doing the rifle trails last
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house on drill team so I mean I was I
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was pretty good i was pretty good but uh
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you know what I always liked have to
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tell you I don't know this could find
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any place in in your life but you know
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you have the most of the time you're in
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a pseudo official environment like
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you're in uniform right and you know
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there's no casualties the Great's
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there's no no skylarking you know no
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smoking this because all the rules that
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are going to pass it and in being a
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pseudo know
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paramilitary teenager right but then
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you're in like the official capacity
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when you're not at ease right and if you
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have a situation like turn your hat on
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backwards shit now
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oh my god no oh geez Louise your belt
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buckle better be polishing your shoes
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and don't use mop & Glo that's chishti
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your don't get your I had better be
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straight if you know what I'm saying if
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you're if you're really in a hurry you
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can use mop & Glo but it's gonna be
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pretty obvious and you might get it to
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merit that allows your pants mmm I don't
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know what that means then I guess I want
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to know what is what is busting your
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pants allowing your pants is a thing
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that we used to do him any military
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which they don't do anymore which is
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that your the bottoms the bottom hem of
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your pants is like tucked into the top
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of your boots I such a cool look and
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then bloused out so that it's it's like
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your boots are tight on your ankles and
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their little tactical for what we were
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doing but that said I would love that
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look it's super cool it's a little bit
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you know it's not something a little bit
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yeah a little bit 1943 but like pretty
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cool that was so our our fatigue uniform
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even for PT at blast pans we weren't
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kidding around in this in the Alaska
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civil air patrol you don't have
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something a little less formal that was
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still uniform in those situations where
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we have addressed by a dress blues
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yeah we just lose one of my favorites
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with salt and pepper which is when you
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have a white shirt with epaulets with
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the rank on it and black pants that was
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a sharp look sharp we had for what they
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called it that our everyday was cautious
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this is coming back to me just a little
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bit with khaki pants and a short sleeve
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shirt trucks leave khaki shirt around
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and then sometimes there's a term they
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used like with lids or something and
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there's some term for when you have to
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wear your hat which kind of sucked and
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then we had we had like turning over
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there was a slightly more informal one
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that was a little bit little bit even
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guerre which I think was like a white
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t-shirt with khakis it was a little bit
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like you know tom's of Maine is that the
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one times of feeling the feeling better
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and that's where your want to taste the
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other pics at tom's of maine was
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toothpaste and Tom's finland makes a
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sexy drawings
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yeah and even our gym uniforms were
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where we were highly no prescribed it
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you ask for swabbing the deck right the
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khakis with like you mean this is the
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thing and I this is getting to this
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deeper point which is that when we know
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when we were just that you dress out for
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for whatever it was whatever the name of
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uniform was this
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is 30 some years ago but you know you
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wear these the admiral farragut academy
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shorts and then you either wear the
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white admiral farragut academy shirt or
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more often you would wear the shirt for
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your company and of course i was in 4th
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company and had a purple shirt so it was
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let me everybody showed up and you
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didn't show up in a different shirt just
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didn't do that you know and you
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certainly don't show up with a hickey
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well I got thrown out for for that kind
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of stuff oh you get through yeah we
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should've been thrown out of this
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encampment Eielson Air Force Base but
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they stuck around we secretly or and
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secretly disappointed that I didn't get
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a didn't get a blanket party didn't get
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a absolutely right because you know Red
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Code Red
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yeah i mean a and in fact that was where
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I learned how to short-sheet beds and I
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think but this guy is frustrating for a
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it really is haha and i try to apply it
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all the time but nobody makes them
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better i'll never forget one day
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Christian camp III got the skunk I was
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so you ever have that your skunk
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what's this company so humiliating at at
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the breakfast they do all the
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announcements and they announced like
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his capitals this worse but I had the
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worst bed in the whole campus the skunk
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I'd never been so humiliated that gives
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you by a man in my life it was awful i
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learned Hospital corners I could bounce
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a quarter off Thank You Man III could
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the bed that I made when I was finally
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in actual military school and moved on
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from Christianity paramilitary gear i
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made the fuck out of bed i have you
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really got 1910 everyday mean Brian find
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that I bet you could make a hell of a
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bed i make a how about if I want to I
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can talk that shit in quarters bounce
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buddy about to pound off that shit my
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most embarrassing moment was when i when
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i was playing rugby for Gonzaga
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University and I decided you were there
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we were there for like two months how
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before you got for us to leave when I
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that's where i was escorted off the
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campus for the last time i should i
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should clarify because i was discord
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about the caps a few times
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but I was on the rugby team and I felt
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somehow you know rugby shirts are very
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expensive particularly the the realest
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with the rubber buttons
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yeah the pro ones are are are not cheap
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and I had come to college with my own
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selection of rugby shirts because it was
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the eighties and rugby shirts were what
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guys like me war and I Gonzaga scullers
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were navy blue and white and i have high
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had a I had a sky blue and pale yellow
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rugby shirt
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Oh John and I thought that's like being
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off a quarter town
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exactly just that that's like you're you
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know it is thats ug g g string being
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just a little bit flat that's what
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that's exactly what it was and I showed
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up I was wearing this thing up and you
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know the older guys I was a freshman of
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course the only guys did not approve but
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I you know I was a big kid or whatever
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and everybody just kinda looked askance
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at it but but to my eternal shame i
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showed up for our our group picture
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wearing on this shirt and so here's this
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that there's a picture still hanging in
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the hallway of the main the main
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building at Gonzaga University the best
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the hall of fame or whatever there's a
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picture of that 1987 Gonzaga rugby squad
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and me in a in an off-color like light
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yellow of all look of all the things if
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it had been light blue a child wouldn't
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that have been yearbook day and each of
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you had had a separate photo in uniform
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that would be merely horribly
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embarrassing but you know he did you
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fucked it up a for the rest of the team
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and be for posterity now an old guy who
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gave a gave a few thousand dollars in
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school he walked down that hall and he
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goes who the fuck was this guy in 1986
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exactly that's exactly what our ability
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Corgan move I'll be dead a hundred years
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and somebody walking through Gonzaga
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University looking at the dusty
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photographs and I'll go look at this
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jackass
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I think they should find the technology
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to fix that with all due respect to you
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you know what it's a it is it is an
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accurate record of the moment it is an
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accurate record of the time I was a
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jackass and I just yeah and Trotsky was
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never in any photos
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I think a big part of super train should
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be making things right I'm gonna
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experience your triangle actively well
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I'm just saying what retro actively this
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is the beauty part i mean you know or
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what was not riding in a vacuum the
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beauty part about Stalin is that is that
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he was so so able capable and willing to
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change things over and over and over we
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look need look no further than our
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friend mouth he was always changing his
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mind and then he changes mind everybody
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changes their mind is like the captain
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Wally when we accept late makes it
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become breakfast time again same deal
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while solid wood paint a guy out of the
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picture and then three years later he'd
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paint another guy on the picture and
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pretty soon he painted all the guys out
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of the picture and somebody had to draw
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like a right like a horizon line and he
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puts in like totoro or goofy or whoever
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this is my tattoos happy little trees
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isn't the problem
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tattoos you know you got you got to live
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with that forever you put Trotsky on
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your ass and that's gonna be so you're
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gonna be sitting on Leon like for the
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rescue you know I'm saying I feel like
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when we start talking about tattoos you
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and I yeah you're alienating a great
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number of our listeners who are right
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now looking at their tattoos and feeling
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very proud about the choices that they
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make good for them
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yeah and then I don't want to make the
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particularly if they've got like my
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little pony tattoo what they have a
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tattoo of themselves dressed as a civil
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war reenactor you know what else we're
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doing but somebody who is about two days
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away from getting a tattoo is gonna
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think twice about it and that's what
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we're saying interesting because if you
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have I can make you feel bad about your
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I'm just saying that's why it should be
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a t-shirt you wear that t-shirt for one
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year you don't even take it off whatever
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it is you want to put a bird on it put a
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bird on t-shirt you wear it everyday i
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got a wedding coming
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no fuck you for your bird shirt we go
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after year maybe get a tattoo you want
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to change your friend who was a
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redheaded girl
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yeah this is the mulatto Irish uh yeah
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yeah and after high school
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this was the very dawn of people who
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were not like active sailors getting
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tattoos turn 1986 like it was not a
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thing yet that's still pretty young
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really early in me in the like I'm not
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I'm not I'm not actually I don't even
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think research books were widely read at
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that point I'm not carving scrimshaw
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I have a normal person I'm gonna get a
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tattoo and she got a tattoo of a little
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red-haired which riding a broom and she
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got it in her bikini area and she was so
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proud of this thing was a flying away
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from her toward it was flying above it
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was it was next to it and flying as
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though to go over I'll cacao it was
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gonna say was there was the with the
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jumped over the bush foo and the little
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red-haired which was I guess it was her
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spirit animal she actually was a witch
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and I don't mean a spell casting with
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like a Lincoln know she was a witch like
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a terrible girl ever and she got this
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tattoo and she was so private shoes like
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you know there it is for all the world
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to see and I was like it's not for all
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the world to see it's just for people
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who get your panties off the sea and
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presumably by the time someone has your
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panties off they already know we'll put
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a little which you are that's like socks
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for Christmas Jones you know you see the
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DC the box you open up minutes it's a
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parable toes he goes shit i thought that
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this is going to be star wars Jamie's
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you know i'm saying i got a box with a
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person goldtoes it right now be pretty
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glad actually well you know I told this
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house able to give Hodgman fresh pair of
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socks i just i just got 16 paragould two
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socks I never look back never look
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that's nice you know that massive thing
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that's the thing if you're if you are
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able to give a friend a fresh pair of
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socks and say you know what keep them
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presence of mind bringing an extra socks
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you're never going to not need more
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that's so nice yeah
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Richard Richard Manuel from from the
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band dad dead suicide of Florida yeah
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the keyboard player from springs
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keyboard player dead
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that's right he did die yeah I'm just
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I'm just saying if all the people in
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bands it appears to be the keyboard
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player to want to make a big deal about
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I don't be sitting behind a desk and
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there's no there's really nothing to do
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but for do heroin because there's a lot
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of times we just vamping your vamping
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your plants will give you you know
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presumably by the time the year the
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keyboard player in a very successful
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band before you're probably a great
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pianist you could be sitting in the you
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could be sitting at a grand piano at one
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of the elevator lobbies of nordstrom
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somewhere playing mantovani or whatever
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it is they play at North services and
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you're having dinner this weekend with a
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nuestras this is and and yet you're back
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there going dot dot dot dot done Anna
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and maybe twice in the set one day
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look we'll find you prices that the
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singer turns around points of view and
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you get to go but who you taking to
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change the envelope and the filter who
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we want or if your heart or the steve
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miller band you get to like the mood for
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a second ago 0 we get to turn up your
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harp chord on the quiet part before the
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last chorus but then the rest of the
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time you're just sitting back there and
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it's like I could do crossword puzzles
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or I could do some help you think about
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think about how much of it is you know
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five things like triggering and
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sequencers you know nowadays not saying
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there's no role for these folks in it
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but it's not like Howard Jones out there
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you know with a little fucking
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one-man-band simple between your knees
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that set up a time that I don't know how
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Jones man that hair anyway so um you
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know he had yet here to call your you
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know I'm his version of level terrorists
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for apart so far little Terrace apart
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because the version i heard before her
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joy division's version isn't it odd how
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you can do that take out
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yeah i got a lot of things wrap up this
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Canyon that doesn't happen anymore
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course because people now have access to
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all music from all-time instantly
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yeah it's easier than ever to be over
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something you know you can't be
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move or something if you went down to
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the opportunity and spent five dollars
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in sixty-nine cents on it you're gonna
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fucking listen to cheap Trick's
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one-on-one to you love it period
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we don't have to go over this again i
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know i know but the thing is I'm there's
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one thing i like that in military school
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I didn't like it at the time but I'm
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starting to understand the appeal if you
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are in that official a kind of an
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official formation if something happens
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with showers
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mmm nu nu oh gosh no oh boy group
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showers it isn't having learned enough
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from history John the charts don't go in
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a room where they say everybody takes a
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can we just all agree that's a bad idea
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you know and they're in mind in my
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junior high my junior hide the coach
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stood at the door where the shower
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god that's wholesome with but with a
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clipboard and he check your name off if
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you if he saw you take a shower and if
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you didn't
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if he if you did not like go past him
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standing at the door
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take your towel off and take a shower
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and so he could see that you had whetted
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yourself from top to bottom if you
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didn't do that it was impossible to get
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me in gym so oo so hang on a minute
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because you're saying something very
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important here which is it's one thing
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to say that you're going to get a like a
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point off of your weekly whatever with
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that but you're saying something quite
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different
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you're saying the biggest faggots in the
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class which is the people who want
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straight a's like me right
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he's going to withhold your a right that
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would give you the straight A's
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that's right so you Poindexter better
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get in there and get that little Angus
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that's right on that's John that is dark
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as hell it was very it was super
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psychological all of those do you think
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he kept all those records
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mm I don't know much about filing
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cabinet somewhere at the basement of
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wendler junior high school in Anchorage
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that still has his handwritten notes of
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whose daily Degas he saw i bet you mr.
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fenell still has a lot of these broken
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stars to god bless them but that you
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know so that there's the there the kids
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in seventh grade who have who are
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already men
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I'll it's the worst and then there are
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the little skinny kids that have not
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that are another still very much
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right and and he standing there at the
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doorway just like and he actually had a
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little chance that he said he said he
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said shower down begin a that's the
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first chance I and her dad get a penny
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and we're coming in for coming from the
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playing fields whatever he's standing at
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the door shower down to get an end it
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doesn't even rhyme shower down to get a
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it's it over and over starting to get an
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a I I can't currently pull to mind a
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better one but I mean that that's a
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really miserable chant shower down to
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get a shout-out to get in a that's
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miserable
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oh it was the turn of showers the
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showers now here's what I like if you
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were in this official this is not even
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if you don't know I'm pursuing this but
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if somebody came up to you an official
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capacity if you were and let's say you
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were in formation and you're standing at
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attention during something like and you
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know inspection and somebody is from
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yeah yeah you should you know about this
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is exactly three permissible answers to
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any question yes sir no sir I don't know
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no bars was well that may be yours ours
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was yes sir no sir no excuse sir
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00 no excuse sir not right now i believe
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i did say no excuse so there are some
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there are some of the things you learn
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this like whether you like it or not the
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whole point military school is not to
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help you bloom is a special flower it is
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to take you at the point when you are
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most mother was most possible that you
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could become an interesting person and
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then try to make you uh a miserable brad
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Ziegler
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oh absolutely and then three in the
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shower yeah what you think it's kinda
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interesting you say to somebody why why
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isn't your belt buckle shinier no excuse
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sir you don't get sick as I was busy
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watching buck rogers right you see no
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excuse sir excuse sir it's a very
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interesting idea to various state
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because for somebody like me who is why
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don't you notice this i'm a bit of a
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talker because of my extensive liberal
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arts background I got a reason for
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everything that's right you would you
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want to justify why your belt buckle is
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not shiny go shower if you want in a
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what is it
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shower down to get a shower down to get
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an eighth scans nicely but I shout out
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to get an A and he had a little he had a
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weird accent like weird like Oklahoma
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accent shower down na na is miserable
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shower down
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right now there's there's literally in
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the entire United States in our history
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there's literally only one thing worse
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than junior high and that's middle
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school junior high is disgusting because
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it's got got this problem on one level
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of like a lucky say like some of the
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people you know look like the retirees
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and others look like toddlers
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yeah but 6 7th and 8th grade I think
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it's even worse because you got six
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graders long in elementary school
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nope i was i didn't have middle school I
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had junior high but middle so I've heard
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people when I learned about middle
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school it gave me it gave me the shakes
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so some of the girls in sixth grade look
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like supermodels
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yeah other ones look like they probably
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needed to change their nappy right and
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then but then you've got guys even in
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seventh grade and these the really
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stinky guys with with the weird
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mustaches it didn't know how awkward
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they were those poor bastards
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I mean you get those guys and and you
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grow really fast and you can done
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coordinated year you know I don't you
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want to have told you my plan now what's
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your plan my plan is that the no one
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learns anything in junior high
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there is no they're not a single bit of
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useful information is communicated or
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retained 20-point information not
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nothing nothing will be taught or or by
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design nothing will be permitted to be
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learned nothing enough it is impossible
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to learn it is it is an unlearning
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belittle unlearning in the bowl
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environment
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ok super super train junior high you
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come in as an empty vessel and leave
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potentially even more empty then you
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came in so here's what happens here's
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here's my plan for junior i'm sure i've
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told you this at all from 7th 8th grade
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all those kids are building trail in
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national parks
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[Music]
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and this is a national program to get
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sunscreen
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well your betrayal so the have to get
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fucking you get you get a hatter you're
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under cover of trees I mean it's a bad
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guess if you're building traveling
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Arizona you do need sunscreen little
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trip but uh but so we have a lot of
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national parks a lot of those trails
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need need a tremendous amount of upkeep
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some of them were in treacherous
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locations for older people to go up
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there and haul logs and and fix that
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trail that's a lot of that's a lot of
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work for people young people
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particularly seventh graders who are
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incapable of learning anything and are
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useful to society in every way except
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except and folders there they're just
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old enough that they could drag logs and
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they can there that they should be
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employed as donkeys that thread
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throughout our national park system and
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if if we used case this way so six
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frayed you're learning stuff you're
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still you're like engage your learning
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about art and music you learn all the
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bones in the body and how they connect
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to one another and then you graduate
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from sixth grade and you are immediately
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sent to a Works Progress Administration
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style camp on the side of Mount Rainier
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or perhaps out in Death Valley
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California wherever it is that travel
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needs to be built that you are employed
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in this capacity for two straight years
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you come out the other side and here you
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have clear skin you have a clear sense
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of purpose your body is strong your your
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youth has been employed in the service
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of your great country and then you enter
[TS]
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ninth grade and again begin to learn
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things from books at night at night
[TS]
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these kids will all sleep in these the
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these depression-era bunk houses like
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babies they'll sleep and they would they
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will sleep like babies there will be
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well they will read the read for a half
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an hour by lantern light someone will
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tell them a ghost story perhaps on
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weekends and it will be contributing to
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America in a way that that that there's
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no substitute and they will be not not
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contributing because that's part of the
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problem i think that you're dressing
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with this is
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the utter lack of contribution the the
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vacuum of contribution that we get from
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these these fucking pubescent leeches
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yeah these are terrible people that
[TS]
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people 7th 8th graders are terrible
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people there they're the worst that
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humanity has to offer and right now
[TS]
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we're plating them with like a so that
[TS]
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their dressing like those Bratz dolls
[TS]
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and they're listening to hip-hop music
[TS]
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and they are joining gangs or whatever
[TS]
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it is that young people do these days
[TS]
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after wearing white bar names they are
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they are being lolitas for their
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next-door neighbor's whatever Dylan key
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Tars they are causing problems they're
[TS]
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causing problems for their families
[TS]
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they're causing problems for each other
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they have they have terrible skin John
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this is a comprehensive fuckin solution
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because here's the other thing I'm sure
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this is something you've already covered
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in in in any of your plans for this but
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but but what is the what is the primary
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problem identifying hear about middle
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school is the terrible felker beyond
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bell curve really at liberty bell curve
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of differences right you got some kids
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to look at it like linebackers right
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there like nine feet tall and they're
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all they're all mean and glandular and
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you got other kids over here within
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the thing is you there is work for
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everybody when you're fucking building
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trail right so right see somebody has
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somebody's making the signs that say you
[TS]
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know that you're an artist you want to
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be an artist make a fucking sign
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here's a sign here is up here's a little
[TS]
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a wood carving kit his sign needs to say
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the upper loop is 2.4 kilometers and the
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lower loop is 1.8 kilometers and a busy
[TS]
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but it's leveling the linebacker guys
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can appoint some very large logs he's
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not going to be so cocky anymore and
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that little guy with the small fingers
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he might be able to get a wasp nest out
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of that log if we had to write but
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everybody it's going to be to each to
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each his ability as changed according to
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disability precisely precisely you can
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you send the runty ones into the into
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the hole
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here's the thing okay yeah the trees I
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let me tell you something yesterday my
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daughter had set school in the morning
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she had half a day of school and then
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went directly to ballet and I join her
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at her ballet class and she tore ass in
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ballet for 45 minutes
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sheshe ran at school right she goes to
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ballet shamina she was before she mostly
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runs with a scarf she runs and runs and
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runs and runs and runs and you know
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what she is good and tired when it's
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time for bed
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I don't part of the problem is we are
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not tiring out our children enough
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that's exactly right
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it's like Gibson Gibson Gibson the only
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Gibson seems like he's mostly happy with
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so nice to see Gibson but would make
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gifts and happier is if the world would
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allow him to be exhausted
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when's the last time Gibson was really
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satisfying exhausted this is a property
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of at rest Gibson had a place where
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there were rabbits who needed to be
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chased who gives them would have a job
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keeps him would find his doc and and the
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things that drive around there drive
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around the city of seattle and all over
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the place you look through plate-glass
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windows at perfectly healthy adult
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people on treadmills and elliptical
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machines and station empowering the
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powering nothing with all that wattage
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yeah that's right they're creating
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executed he is going nowhere sitting
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there watching television they're using
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electricity rather than generating
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electricity they're not doing a fucking
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well they're creating heat which then
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listen to the blind guy
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listen to the blind guy
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please give me a fucking break it then
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the he needs to be dissipated and we
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need when we are using more air
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conditioning and fans to blow this heat
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that they're making instead of using
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that heat to power their buildings are
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instead of using that heat who do to
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lift logs up trail
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these people are just burning they're
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just burning food it's like it's like we
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live in a quote/unquote Country with
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fucking 300 million little duchies it's
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just it's a goddamn shame there's not
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somebody who can come together and bring
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together all these sources of energy and
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non energy into one place and I'm just
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going to say you know what your opening
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my eyes to all of this
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there needs to be a lot more fucking
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exhaustion in this country there does
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that's exactly right and the problem
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with this is that anymore if you say
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alright here's the proposal national
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program all kids have to do this all
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oh my god you're gonna hear they're
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being you imagine you're gonna hear from
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both sides you're gonna hear from the
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people we just spotted me then it was
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just fun and that's only such a little
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how we can't do it and then you're gonna
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hear from the people who are like our
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kids are being you know we're
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homeschooling our kids to believe that
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God made the universe in four and a half
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days and you you know and blah blah blah
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everybody's every kid is a fucking
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special flower in this country and what
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you need is somebody with the will to
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say your kids are useless stupid little
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fucks just like every other kid who they
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need to be they need to be tethered to
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some kind of some kind of all that they
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need to be yoked to useful and that's
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exactly right
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they need to be yoked to do some kind of
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water wheel they not that they want that
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duck and they don't know it you know the
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kids our age our kids are you know a few
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years apart but they want limits they
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don't know it and if they don't want
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limits were going to make them what
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limits for the first three weeks would
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be so much crime gonna scratch
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whimpering and whining and people would
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be saying where's my playstation and
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people would be saying and you say like
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to thank you for contributing to the
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salt water slurry started beating lights
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out in 15 minutes and these let me make
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a shaker delicious early tea at first at
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first they would be rapping to each
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other they'd be like yeah
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rap and shit they'd be like talking to
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each other in there in there like
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youthful patois but by the end of the by
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the end of the first year they would all
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be speaking like Walt Whitman and they
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would be they would have they would have
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woodsman skills they would be all they
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be some silly and interesting stories
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but they wouldn't tell them that's
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exactly right they have a kid yourself
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it's staring into the distance they
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would seem wiser than they were and then
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they would start ninth grade and you
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would say US history and they would open
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their books with their pencils at the
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ready hungry hungry for history hungry
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for history and you know what if you
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can't pull up those fucking pants maybe
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we'll suture them to your midsection
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like a fucking gentleman pull up those
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pants you know what you know what you
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lose pass privileges are going to go
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make sure I with no pants for a week
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this would even be a problem because
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they start off at first that first month
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and you have that at at that the
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National Park and their pants would be
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hanging down you can see their
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underpants
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yeah but they would realize that the
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first time the first time a Wolverine
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camera haha but this was not some this
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is not something downtown thing like a
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fancy you don't pull up your pants on
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the way and hold your fucking energy
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drink with the other and do that kind of
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wattle now you make up belts out of a
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lot of rope that you will you will
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yourself
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I don't hold your pants up you're saying
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you know what it is here here's your
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here's your extracurricular activity you
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go out you go out and cut a little bit
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of jute maybe if you're lucky and you
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can make a belt because the other thing
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you get those rappy pants that are down
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around your down around your ass you if
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you go out i understand that Arizona is
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warm but they're certainly gonna need to
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build trail and a lot of places with
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humidity
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have you ever had maybe at camp have you
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ever had a really really really bad heat
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oh I get heat rash like you wouldn't
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believe me both buddy and I'm just I'm
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just saying if you're if you're 13 or 14
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and there's not a goddamn ongoing
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insight you're going to think twice
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about rolling hip-hop we're making a
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trail you're gonna pull those pants
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you're gonna stick your fingers into
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that log and plot a god damn wasps nests
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and you're gonna be grateful to be quiet
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and keep all the stories to yourself and
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you're here you're there every one of
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the bunkhouses yeah at the end of the
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bunkhouse there's gonna be there's gonna
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be a like a tin can full of baby powder
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that's because you have to share and you
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gotta make it last
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that's right there's a tin can baby
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powder and there's a little bit of
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hydrogen peroxide and that is the
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entirety of your medical kids haha oh
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that is good if it can't be cured with
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baby powder and hydrogen peroxide then
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if you discover some roots berries and
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twigs along the way to the work site
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that might help you and I don't see you
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been down to get them and you could make
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this into a simple poultice good on you
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but you know what here's the thing Tyler
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Heraclitus understand that you want to
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go to violin camp we'll worry about that
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when you come back from the trail and
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you can you can you fix your rash
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John I think you're onto something very
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important here to get give me five
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things that have been useful to society
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to anyone that h is done maybe Mozart
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01:05:04
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maybe Mozart Mozart probably could have
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made some trail to he went to visit the
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fuck up in his thirties if he had gone
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ahead and made some Viennese trail it's
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true i mean it is debatable whether
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Rambo actually helped or hurt the
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progression of society but i would i
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would put him in the class of like
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somebody that ok good like he was able
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to write some books heels relax verily
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he ruined some people's lives who I you
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know even even he in his 15 minutes at
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the end of the day where he could write
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in his on his yellow legal pad that are
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handed out you know like why I think
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every kid would get a legal pad which
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get a certain amount of paper and a golf
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yeah you get golf mental and a legal pad
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and you keep it in your footlocker and
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you can write your you can write your
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memoirs you can you can write like
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theory letters to home but course after
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the first month or two
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those cheerleaders to homewood would
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would stop and you start to get to start
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to get letters a the kids start writing
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letters like your mother and father
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today we summited mount adams and while
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while we were there we improve the trail
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love your son
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shaniqua you know that I got two big
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problems in addition all these other
[TS]
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problems but with these young people and
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that is that they get too much stuff to
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themselves and they got too many things
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that can rely on other people to do if i
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may say John and this is not going to
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01:06:29
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give you a note on this but I think
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you're WPA project it should have
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require a lot of awkward share
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ring and constant uncertainty right so
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first of all yes there is some baby
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powder in there at first some days there
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might be a tablespoon full and there
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might not be any firm on floor no wait a
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minute you're getting very psychological
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about the mi papá shearing and
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uncertainty so here's the thing you come
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back and you want to get your head now
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what have sheet of paper that's right
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and have a golf pencil
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that's right you know what now there is
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one foot locker for everybody while you
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were out making trail there's one foot
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locker also you write a letter to your
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parents
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maybe we don't send it sometimes i see
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so tonight so today at lunch everybody
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gets a peanut butter sandwich tonight we
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are live tonight at dinner everybody
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arrives in the mess hall there's one
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live chicken
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yeah if you want you if you if you if
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you want if you want to continue in your
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life enjoy that in ninth grade so you
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know I don't think you should gasps let
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you should gas like the shit out of
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these kids especially the first you
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think this was gonna be like like
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terrordome it's a lot like the prisoner
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we want to we want to get that we want
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to get we want to get good solid workout
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of these kids I don't want to terrorize
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them i'll come on really
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but i but i think i think that the the
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extent of their media should be a 16
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millimeter films that were produced
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between 1950 in 1965 huh
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and at night everybody everybody you
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know spend a little time maybe on we let
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down we can you get to watch a film and
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it's a it's like a film about what to do
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in the event of a nuclear attack
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important to film about the dangers of
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marijuana will be relevant you're not
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reading the news you know where what's
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happening in the quote-unquote outside
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world that the the extra trail world
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it's everybody should send well that's
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right you know and watch the same film
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strip crisscross applesauce
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there's no there's no electricity there
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except as generated by like a
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coal-burning generally or maybe it's
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tyler Heraclitus on a goddamn treadmill
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that he had to make out of cute
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ok here's here's one more thing John I
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can I'd really in no way do I want to
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give you notice because my only thought
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how are guys able to break i'm not
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saying this is prison but how are you
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guys able to break out prison they bring
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a present there for so long that they
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learn all of the patterns they learn
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which guards
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deuce are certain ways they learn when
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people walk by they learn when the
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towels get delivered
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they learn like when the new ships are
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handed out they learn enough about these
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patterns that they can they can know it
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inside and out right the pattern never
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you're able to to to to you know to what
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it called ganking right youyou stabby
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stab a fish or something like that
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stab a fish yes so here's what here's
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all I'm saying to you just like Paul
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whole shape here that i would love to
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come back in just a second but but now
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you're giving these young people too
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much credit because mi well in the sense
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that in sixth grade I believe that most
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minds most young people's minds are so
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malleable enough that you can create an
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entire reality all the more reason to
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maleate it well but they but you create
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this reality in which the idea of escape
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is not it does not even occur to them
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because it is their new this is their
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new life
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there's no I mean for that first month
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wire trying i don't really want to back
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their brats doll you sound like a man
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with all due respect who has not been
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around that many seventh graders because
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here's how life works with a
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seventh-grader okay Tyler Heraclitus now
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listen you have to be home early tonight
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and looking up becoming 1030 go that was
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an early so you have to be here at seven
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they stepped foot onto the grounds at
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seven and then walk away
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these kids are weasels they're like
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little lawyers and they will pick up on
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any part of the pattern and you know
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what they want for your week the reason
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that the reason they act that way then
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no one has worn out basically put that
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into a yoke and call and and and
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encourage them to pull a 500 power log
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up the side of a mountain and he started
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mount maybe on a logger pretty sure they
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can actually pull well they go they go
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to boot they go to bootcamp certainly
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where where it starts at up potentially
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as like this is these are kind of fun
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and you're going to have to learn how
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the camp works
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yeah these are fun activities at first
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like hey let's all jump in the mud
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let's make sure that out of straw yeah
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let's like do some fun they're gonna be
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a lot of people that are grousing and my
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god this sucks i hate split and you know
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the food
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is pretty good at first and then you
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know it's it's it's it's not boot camp
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like in the military where they try and
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break you all you want to get the point
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where they immediately try to kill
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themselves you want to give them just
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enough of a soak in that warm water that
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the poor start to open a little bit and
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that's when john gets in this camp but
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first let's follow it let's get some of
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my god John
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oh my god this is it is camp and this is
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how you like this is how we get you know
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what maybe avoid until people until
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people and culture in our culture and
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society understand and embrace what this
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is bringing to our wider felt wrong
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maybe it is just can't maybe it's free
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camp it's among the WPA camp at first
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and you come you're going to have some
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fun get beat get outdoors and get some
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fresh air right and this is going to be
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good for your kids it's gonna like it's
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a weight reducer or if your kids were
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depressed since he and the apertures a
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TD and Asperger's you know send the
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these camps will nurture your child
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organic food organic food and then and
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that's right very organic food and then
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after a certain point of time it's like
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okay we're going to get now we're going
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to the log toss and we're going to do
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the log carry now we're going to do the
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log drag becomes like a ropes course or
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something right we're gonna go out and
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say hi trust Trust trust exercises and
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then suddenly one day you come back the
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cabin is not gone in order to sleep on a
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rail and they say what do you mean they
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say figure it out figure I think about
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our national parks is that they're
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actually very fun event just that this
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is the thing that I would like you to
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adults to know that you can have fun
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there anything great when you return to
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your parents you can ask them to take
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you there although probably you should
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be should probably keep it to yourself
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when you're nice great you bring your
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parents there and you'll say you see
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that zipline I built that supply and I'm
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sorry for everything sorry for all the
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pain I caused your mother and father
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calculating the greeting card
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let's read my report on william henry
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harrison high road by lamplight was
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either 30-day president up placing a
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30-day president was in harrison william
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henry harrison wasn't but there was one
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president he gets sick I think just like
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Kennedy he didn't wear a hat during his
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parade and then he got sick and his
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entire presidency he was sick and he
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died after he was like he was like the
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john paul the 1st of american presence
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that's correct sir exit now back in Ohio
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make my own Cincinnati my friends went
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to a William Henry Harrison High School
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been really for a month then they were
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kilt an idiot
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they were never given my like some kind
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of pneumonia remember that when pope
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john paul the first you remember like is
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that the previous vote was a pope john i
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don't forget which one anyway that job
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there was John Paul the one John Paul
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one but yeah but I mean before him
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because that guy act was that like the
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Vatican to guy this guy's been poked
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fucking forever remember I think to Pope
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was John or Paul George my been pooping
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Ringo Ringo Ringo have been around
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forever i remember this it was about
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nineteen seventy what 78 79 and it was
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such a huge deal because all we're gonna
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have the smoke and everything that I'd
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like a month later and it doesn't ever
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again it was not right and and that's
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how we got poked on Paul tube and then
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he again not now he was like a George
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Martin he's just around forever
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I am I a just in passing i have a friend
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who tried out for the food fighters
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excuse me try out for food fighters it
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was a great experience
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he said he enjoyed a lot who was my
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friend my friend Stephen Fox the guy
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played in that a 80's cover band with oh
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yeah Steven foxy a good man and he a
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good man a corner and a fantastic guitar
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by the only one in the band who everyone
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that's very very gifted guitar player
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like like like Colton he can basically
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what it was the opposite of sight
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reading here play he could hear play
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pretty much anything about here
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thank you like like mozart but my other
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story was I've been watching this video
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over and over of foo fighters when
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they're on letterman in two thousand
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right after he came back from surgery
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and threw a fan but I think they're a
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great band the drummer's just
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mind-blowing is a great drummer is
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amazing and you don't again drugs drugs
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drugs drugs really drugs SE over just a
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year after that performance but then
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that Dave SAT by his bed set by his bed
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into thinking
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better well the nice thing so I never
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have found I found Dave girl to be one
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of the nicest to people in the rock
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music business he seems like he's really
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seems real weird but like a real guy yea
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he's a he's a weird guy who got super
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rich and he recognizes that that's weird
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but I didn't see makes an attempt to
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cover up
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he's isn't deliberately peculiar like
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fucking Jimmy Corrigan but he also is
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that thing Jimmy Corrigan yeah the
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world's smartest stars in the world
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yeah that and the drummer with the
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heroin rusty brown on rusty trombone
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anyway anybody know
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grover cleveland was president of the
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United States two non-consecutive times
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there's a fight joke about that I heard
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was the joke i can't remember and that
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the but now we see the one was killed by
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the eastern european guy and I think in
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McKinley ya know most presidents come
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from Ohio it turns out i did that is
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true more presidents than from Ohio than
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any other state except maybe virginia
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Land of Lincoln Ohio a lot of people
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live in
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that's right realize that that's right i
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live in Cincinnati which is almost an
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Ohio globally from New York this is the
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kind of thing I would overnight great
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use their eat so here's the thing and
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this is I've noticed this for years and
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i'm curious about this site and I'd
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looks like you guys did not deal with
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this on our show us when you're in
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harvey danger what we on God was it
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created Warner Conan or we can still
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become more arm got a nice guy seems
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like a homemade dick
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yeah haha yes exactly something he's
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going to go to make love camp if i get
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minus all guy
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good for him okay so here's the thing
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they get out David Letterman has just
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almost died from like SuperDuper heart
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surgery and he makes that you can read
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about this on the internet it's another
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nice day girl story is that is that when
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he came back for the first time to his
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first show after coming back he had one
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request he says I want the food fighters
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my favorite band compliment favorite
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song and the story goes is this
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Letterman this is a desert 2000-2004
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heart attack he came back from his like
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quintuple bypass I don't understand how
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you can have a fourth or fifth chamber
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but you know he comes back and he says I
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really wish my favorite band come and
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play my favorite song on the show story
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goes the food fighters were in fucking
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still at the time I think this is
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correct and came back and played
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Everlong on his show and its really
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really good but there's that part when
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they go into that is the other think i'm
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gonna get and there's a part like you
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know three quarters of the way through
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their kind of goes into that vamping on
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that and the part of all the voices and
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of course depending on letterman so at
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that awesome tense part of the song
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what do you hear haha Shaffer and pasta
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from place on my guard down song I mean
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you see they might be giants actually
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you know they may be Giants playing
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along with Johnny Carson's band i can
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highly recommend it so it's beautiful
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they played birdhouse in your soul with
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a very under under-rehearsed doc
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severinsen orchestra but it still
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glorious its voice you could see
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Flansburg flies are lit up that he's
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playing along with this giant man on TV
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this is on the Internet
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oh yeah things birdhouse in your soul on
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Johnny Carson anyway I'm just saying now
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you if you were to show up and on
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Letterman's uh on Letterman Show on boy
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i still love that guy
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but but how do you think it works I mean
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you seem like that's gonna come up at
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some point they're going to say oh hey
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you know you and your band are going to
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matter or you know you by yourself you
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can understand if they want to if we'll
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leave don't you still with the panel and
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plan out my understanding is that the
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assumption is the assumption used to be
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that Paul the band we're going to play
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with you unless you either said unless
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you had enough authority to say no thank
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I think nowadays Paul the band are they
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probably checking Twitter on their
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phones now I don't get the sense that
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they play with young bands coming that I
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was used to grate on my nerves when
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Robyn Hitchcock was on there doing
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lesson on the wasps and and the world's
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the most dangerous band is jamming along
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and because they're really get me thing
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is when you know what's his name the guy
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with the yellow guitar like it is he's
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great but they're all they're great but
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then Paul Shaffer his his keyboards are
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so fucking loud know how is he still
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Paul Shaffer please welcome player in
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the band how is he still alive first of
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all he's canadian and so that existing
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from a lot of the ways that people does
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for the Thunder island there's another
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is that when John song under bay but
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that's the one
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under haha ok that but also paul shaffer
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well first of all he was blues brother
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Paul Shaffer also keeps an adjunct his
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brother actually was the truth is he was
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the musical director few things that are
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true blues brothers
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yeah uh I mean the pulsipher who knows
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Paul Shaffer probably has an aluminum
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heart I'm a tie on Katie buzz
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