Ep. 47: "Esquivalience"
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hello John
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hi Merlin is going well it's a little
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early man is earlier you're working
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these days
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yeah well you know as you know I had a
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lot of houseguests here for a couple
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weeks heard about that and the last I
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finally put the last one on a plane this
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morning
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you're kidding now so so I'm just so I
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kind of woke up I woke up early just out
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of a feeling of that that anxiety you
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have that someone's in my house and
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they're probably making bacon
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yeah but no one was in my room in your
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chili someone's getting into my chili
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someone's messing with my globes are
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taking pictures of my candlesticks the
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wooden things not that cigarettes in the
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garbage yeah snuffed out cigarettes in
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the garbage reading reading different
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kinds of jerky the canonical jerky zoo
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know what i mean i dunno I dunno exactly
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what you mean i don't know at memory
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serves the friend i believe the friend
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you sent out today has literally been
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there for almost two weeks he's been one
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of the map three weeks and you had a man
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in your house for three weeks oh my god
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and it's only because he walks around
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like a he walks around like a kid on
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Christmas morning who that uh that's the
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only reason I could expect standard he's
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very quiet is extremely polite he keeps
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to himself
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that's right you know one of my
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houseguest was handing out $15 itunes
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cards already catch my name
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I'm have John and mixed feelings on this
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we should cut all this out she actually
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say we're talking about it should we
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just be oblique annoy people i don't
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know it's nice to have mixed feelings i
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love mixed feeling citing sometimes
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maybe maybe you should have let me which
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you allude to do stuff more who could be
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interesting to talk about i'm here let's
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talk about rising so fucking jonathan
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coulton has SAT his narrow ass on your
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couch root for all three weeks removed
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he moved from bed to bed he moved from
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bed to couch to bed and now finally
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finally gone already regret saying this
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cuz there's I mean now this is ben
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Pandora's vagina has flung her lobby
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opening don't know and there is so much
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to talk about now that i have officially
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officially been your house
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yeah I know but I mean my god oh geez no
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no all good all good it's just you know
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there's that you know but you were here
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in the context of a larger group of
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people to contact yeah it was you were
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you were here both in the context and
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out of the context of who it starts you
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know it would be it'd be it'd be
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different if if you were just here like
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roaming around idly pulling books off
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the shelves who you know I'd really like
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changing the settings on things I mean
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that would be one thing but it's another
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thing to be here in the anteroom did not
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break your usual help straining it's not
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my fault I another thing to be here in a
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group full of alpha alpha males
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ok so this is gonna be the official the
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official i think deal estar fuckery a
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episode / more importantly discussion if
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we may if you're comfortable about
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exactly what happens in your house
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people have heard about it i'm going to
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ask maybe you don't have a bell or
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something nearby you should have
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something that you can hit it safe word
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safe bell hit a safe belt
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ok my mind is red and you tell me when
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when when we need to cut it off okay
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yeah well yeah as you say we just cut
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out all the years we just stipulate i
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will to the night again I think there's
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a lot I don't know about how your
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parameters protected but it will to the
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best of my ability reveal nothing about
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the location
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ok good for that means by which i was or
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was not allowed into your home right
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here don't and and any any any evidence
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or any-any anything that might allow my
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house to be identified from the air that
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yeah alright I'll do the best I can I
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here's the thing it doesn't have is
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something that we've all experienced my
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daughter's for and she's already
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experienced this is which is the whole
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like I had a dream and it was weird
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because it was our house but it wasn't
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our house and I said shut up i hate
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hearing other people's dreams kind of
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compulsion of mine of course I needed to
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identify your professor who found
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intolerable he thought he was like his
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greatest phobia
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hehe i just i merely I merely hate it
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but he could not stand to hear someone
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else's dream
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wow really I'm updated extra the late
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David dextran behind you buddy
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yeah well you know what i do is i slowly
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lower my eyelids like I'm cranking the
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honoring of a french cafe until my
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eyelids are just barely open just the
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faintest touch of i'll ask why you're
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listening
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this is why I'm listening to someone
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talk about the dream just like get this
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son ambulant so yeah but you know I know
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there's a basic problem to the dreams
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maybe we should just talk about things
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in Avoyelles other bullshit but his
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dreams are very interesting except as
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much as they are absolutely not
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interesting or not it's that describes
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describing a poop to somebody I would
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rather hear about the poopy took the in
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your dreams because he doesn't sound
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like everybody that talk to me about
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their dreams was really just describing
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their last poop i would be actually
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pretty fascinating i would be so
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relieved and that's something that can
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understand here's how it goes you go on
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I just remembered something
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oh my god I had a crazy dream last night
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now i hate you i hate you please don't
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say anything
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oh no no let me just listen I want to
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make it clear I I don't want to hear
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your dream it's not just you i never
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want to hear anybody fucking tell me
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their dream I don't care and it won't be
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as cool as you think it is and then turn
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the annual drift off and say you
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couldn't really describe it
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that's gonna happen that's not how you
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described you to notice it was so funny
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because it was like I was in school but
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it was a museum and it was like I was in
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a boat but no and I would i remember
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that i had arms and eyes are lowering
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laughs and you were there but it wasn't
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you know although i will make a caveat
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right we'll make an exception it's very
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early i don't know how I don't know how
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to speak you i'm really sorry i will
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make an exception for someone who treats
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me about other dream I'll see okay what
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all right so we were in my dreams let's
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explain why cause you got a hundred
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forty fucking characters there's no
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epilogue there's no prologue excuse me
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there's no prologue and there's no
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epilogue you you merely say I had a
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weird dream last night that my pillows
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turn into John Roderick weird
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perfect thank you yeah right yes it goes
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on you amble on through this thing and
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already the thing is i think it's
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probably a poetic name for this but you
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know every time we we remember a memory
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we exchanged a little bit and he created
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a little bit
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this is just pure neuroscience degraded
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and then amplify
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the things that we're remembering
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correctly yeah if you go back over here
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recordings of yourself or you know my
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case I go back I'm gonna hear myself to
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repeat myself a lot of ever mentioned
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that but i will hear myself having told
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the same story it's different like I'm
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always telling the best version i can
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remember of something that happened to
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me and it is different right
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oh yeah absolutely so when you tell a
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dream you're really telling a story of a
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dream and the story sucks and then you
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go into so finally as your you're
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stripping and then I remember I woke up
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a little bit but um it was you know it's
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so hard to describe because it was it's
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uh well and and and that's true i can't
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describe my dreams because I stopped
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remembering my dreams a long time ago
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when i was when i was young i remembered
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my dreams pretty loosely my dream
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vividly and I remember every i still
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remember a dream I had when I was four
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years old in extraordinary detail but
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apart from that I I mean I have like
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five dreams that i remember ever yeah
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nowadays i wake up and it's like oh yeah
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right i was in some some warehouse in a
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winter landscape being chased by snipers
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and I was riding a motorcycle that I
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built myself as a pretty good pretty
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fucking cool dream i love the sea isle
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of a cool dream or I'll of a dream of
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the punchline I the thing is if it
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really is your dream and you're not
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making it up it probably won't have a
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punch line is just a bunch of bullshit
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your brains trying to figure out its
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like the recycling bin of your soul
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right now
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now you you you began this by trying to
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describe the experience of coming to my
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house and i'm guessing it is because you
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have dreamt about being in my house can
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tell you something you're so I know you
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hate this is going to continue this
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dream it was so weird
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now here's the thing i got your place
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you got your perimeter i was instantly
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identified it for reasons that I won't
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be able to explain apart from the gps I
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was also able to see things that you've
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talked about you you flung open the door
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of your home and immediately there were
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it was as though you are fucking with my
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head that you had listened to our
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program which I know you don't
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it was as though you had listened to our
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program and deliberately tried to make a
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house that it looked like John Roderick
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loda because if i may say not too much
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detail but I opened the door and and
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rainforest first if I can like control
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the gate to the Garden I wasn't gonna
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say jon postel deniability chuck Colson
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yea-ah anyway
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yes the gate is a pickle for the ticket
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yeah so and then kind of stood
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hesitantly on one side looking down at a
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variety of ropes and cables that were
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part partially buried i am mary i
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admired your fruit but the beat the
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citizens this is where I immediately
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knew that I had gone down a very very
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special musky rabbit hole was that the
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door open in front of me was what i
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believe to be possibly a baby grand
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piano that was entirely covered with
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brass candles and can't rest
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candlesticks and entirely underneath it
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was what i would guess to be two dozen
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glass of me varying sizes all looking
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very old and I thought holy shit because
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like our friend jason says the problem
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with John Roderick is it all sounds so
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plausible until you hear the point where
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it's not possible and it's very
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I thought that was made up yeah I we
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browse them Scott browse the menu you
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people wish i could say you should make
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people with white cotton gloves on the
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handle your Braille well you know my
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feeling about all this stuff here is it
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here to be used to so for instance the
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rack of cowboy boots I eyewear repair
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collection of who and then the globe's I
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consult because the gloves clubs
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represent different eras who of globe
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making a sort of snapshots of history
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that you like to contrast that's exactly
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right you look at you look at a club
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that you find in a thrift store and you
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look at the the nations of africa and
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the borders of of you know it like East
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all those countries are different now
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oceania oceania rights right and here's
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here's the thing I I don't want to get
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into this because I'm starting to obsess
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over it but I've been thinking a lot
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about obsessive compulsion and howard
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hughes I've been thinking a great deal
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the last few days about this
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yeah Howard Hughes Howard he
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it is looming large in my mind right now
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and we probably just shouldn't get into
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it but here's something I i have to know
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that you know which is that maps and I
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believe with globes
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there's always at least one fake thing
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on it really you know about this
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no there's a name for it it's like a
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canary trap but the club or it's a
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it's a thing that makers globe makers do
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as a kind of like that's how we know
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it's my globe and that's what my canary
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bingo so here's the thing you get a map
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you get the map it's it's flawless
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sponsor this new map the United States
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or as the United States I think it's
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about the United States I really want to
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get the result of all these years of
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research
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it's the most optimized version of like
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everything that could be annoying about
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a map they've made really great and I
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really want it want it want it but the
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greatest map in the world still has like
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a fake city on it or has a fake rollout
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often it's a fake road so they can see
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there's only one of those are annoying
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fucking lyrics sites on the web you want
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to go lyrics you're Rod Stewart song and
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you copy some text it will also copy
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some other stuff they put deliberate
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errors in there to find out today
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scrapings from somebody else but now its
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subscription that from there all
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butthurt you know here it's the fucking
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earth ok we get it we all we know what's
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there but you put in a fake road now
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here's my problem that road or country
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or city is very unlikely to be anything
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that I ever consultant now I can't stop
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thinking about it I have to know what is
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the one faking on the square searching
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the map for the fake did you bring work
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at all like that it does absolutely it's
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a you know it's easter egg
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I think I found a fake road on a map
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not very long ago because i was looking
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at a map of my mom's hometown and there
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was a road so high oh this is an Ohio
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there was a road that was named after
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her maiden name which i won't say well
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oh boy you better not but let's say her
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maiden name was just give me the less
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risk unless four digits of President
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Cruz watch for the last four digits of
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her maiden name
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so what we're driving a lot we're
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looking at this map together of her
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hometown and she says look at that it's
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it's a frozen gloucester road for I
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others that's there's no road like that
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in this town I would know about it so we
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went to all the computer would be said
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computer went to the computer anywhere
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together we were zooming in on the town
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from outer space and we're looking at it
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and all these different places and all
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these different directions and there's
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this and it's like it's like a quarter
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of a mile long this little thing yeah
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it's nothing to nothing who very very
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suspicious
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yeah and she says if that was a thing if
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they named it road after my family in
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that town i would absolutely know about
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it and this road is just sitting out
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there it doesn't go for to anywhere and
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I was like em take root holy shit John
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look at that link i just sent a ready
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for this you ready for the name and what
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this is called already it has a nameless
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this phenomenon during trap Street trap
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Street trap Street a trap Street is a
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fictitious entry in the form of a
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misrepresented street on a map often
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outside the area that nominally covers
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for the purposes of cortical trapping
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potential copyright violators now can
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this be true even on a good is this
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something that has been happening for
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years so that all these old globe's I
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have under the piano
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John my concern is there may be no way
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to ever find out those are the gloves
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right i mean it's deliberately it's
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deliberately incorrect and i doubt that
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there's any kind of documentation
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addenda appendix or etc that would tell
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oh by the way here's the trap Street we
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never want you to fucking find no this
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goes now there's two streets to travel
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treats we can go down here's a fork in
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the trap Street first of all i want to
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point out the legal legal issues section
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of the trap Street page is apparently
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some it appears the trap streets cannot
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be copyrighted just so you know it
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appears that under copyright law you're
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not allowed to copyright the name of a
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fixed rate that doesn't insist on a map
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ok alright copyright law for the win and
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now now now getting with this bullshit
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email signatures we go this is to the
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only recipient and related to kick you
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right now i agree to nothing I
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good-for-nothing this is not a tacit
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contract right here I item and be and be
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holy shit how much the stuff that's out
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there that we're dealing with or should
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be dealing with is actually a kind of if
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I may say trap Street John it seems to
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me that someone who is concerned about
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these issues of intelligence
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this is the kind of thing you need to
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know about think about and maybe not
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even admit to know don't worry about
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traps these two double trap streets
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could do think about what you could do
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with trap streets
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well here's here's the thing though for
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me personally I although i love maps and
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I consult maps constantly on an hourly
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basis I very seldom use maps for
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navigation who because when I'm going
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from a place to another place
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well in advance of traveling i will say
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ok I'm going to this place up here and I
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look at a map and I'll get the general
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idea of the area where the where the
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place I'm going is like I located in the
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in the quadrant of the map but when i
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leave home i tried to a always take a
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different route / and be not ever really
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exactly know what I'm going so that when
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i get into that job i don't think i
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could even if they could read your mind
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is still wouldn't know exactly and that
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not only that i have the old-fashioned
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sensation of arriving in a location a
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general area of high street if you will
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in the main part of town or the you know
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out by the beach or wherever that I'm in
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there and I go I know it's right around
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here somewhere and then I go up and down
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the streets and I go back and forth mrs.
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of course a problem what if i have to be
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there at a certain time
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that's not your fault but you know what
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that's not my fault they should have
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accounted for that so and then I start
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then I have bet that that X the
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excitement and the satisfaction of
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discovering the place and and and very
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often going directly to it because it's
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the obvious it's obvious it's like i'm
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going to i'm going to a place called the
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tower building and you get out there and
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it's like huh well there's only one
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place that could be this bet that
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building up their looks like a tower and
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none of the other buildings do so anyway
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that is a that is a way in which so I do
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not use g
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yes so they just simply up well let's
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just take this ready but for you it's
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not simply a matter of cartographical
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cheating you certainly want a sharp mind
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you're not gonna you're not gonna shave
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with soap
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you're gonna you're gonna have the
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minimal number of steps exposed to
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people as part of your process but then
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you're learning also it's your auto
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didacticism that doesn't follow your
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nose is that exactly and and so what is
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much more likely and what happens all
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the time is that I discovered roads that
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are not on the map rather than thinking
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that there's a road because they were
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because it says so on the map and then
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there's no Road this is it
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I mean is it the opposite of a trap
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Street i'm guessing that I'm guessing if
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you are making a trap Street you would
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not make the trap Street you could not
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locate the trap Street on your map in a
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place where people would say wow that's
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a cool shortcut you know I mean nobody
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nobody what she described with made with
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the maiden lane was was exactly how it
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works I think you'll see a little
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cul-de-sac
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that's called like Jackie court and so
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jokey court and it doesn't even matter
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what it is probably it should look
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plausible but the point is if they're
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going to Xerox that or whatever people
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do today
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scan it yeah right it's not gonna matter
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what is going to fax it to each other it
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could be called fuck you in the eye lane
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that's the thing is that like it's going
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to show up on mapping oh haha we might
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we might own the copyright on fuck you
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but probably not but not yet boy that
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you know who I don't know I guess I'm
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just thinking it's in again please say
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as little as you can about this unless
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you want to say more it just strikes me
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that when you get into the area of
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intelligence or or HUMINT or or our
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element or any of the different kinds of
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Intel yeah right you meant for our
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listeners who are not adverse to MIT in
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the clandestine arts it's just human
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intelligence i learned about that after
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the 911 you hear people saying that a
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lot of people were confused about what
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it meant the ordinance yeah human sounds
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like something that you would put in the
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bottom of the flower pot in order to
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have your petunias group I knew Abe and
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humans who
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hello so hello idea where there's a lot
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there's a lot at the lot on the cable
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here we're not even near that ukulele
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yeah you know butBut press on press on
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well okay I all I'm saying is ok here
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let me give you a few examples for
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example uh I i if i remember correctly
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Dick Cheney who I think might be even
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more monkey balls than you dick cheney I
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believe had the Naval Observatory
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removed from google maps
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oh he had it he added pixel it's smudged
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ya Yin like maybe he had shifted a
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couple feet i don't know right now you
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remember when for example there's many
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issues you may remember that when gps
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a built-in fucked upness to it where
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they made it off
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first of all lucky we got good it was
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still you are never allowed to be closer
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than 14 feet or something but almost
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more than that it was like 10 feet at
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first because you didn't want to be able
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to put a bomb right in the kaisers
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pocket right right or drop drop the
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bombs between the minarets down on
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casbah Lane who is in a cast by that is
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that is that a plane as by way
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okay yeah uh well yeah and in fact uh
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you know in those early days of
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satellite pictures on the internet i had
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a lot of there's a lot of there's a lot
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of forest that i was very interested in
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what was underneath it and I would go to
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these places on the globe and I would
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zoom in on these dark forests and then
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they had decided that because these
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forests were either a just empty forest
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or be forests concealing special
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installations that you could assume in
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on him it was just it was like that's
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just green green side that whoo-hoo-hoo
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decide that now again I'm not gonna let
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Howard Hughes into this but I know there
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are ways that you can send specially
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coded messages through a variety of
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people so that there is no backwards
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contamination of fake appetite us from a
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man with cancer and a variety of ways
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you can it was called a paddle out of 50
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Kleenexes i know that there are ways
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that you can handle these things and a
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is there a way to ensure that there's
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the right brush coverage for
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installation and be who sends who holds
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the paddle tissues in their hand to let
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someone know that that installation
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needs to be reformatted what'swhat's
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Google's motto uh oh that don't be evil
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don't be evil who write so take it as
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read if you assume that if your motto is
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don't be evil that google is never evil
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we can only be whoo-hoo lot models got
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to be true right i mean absolutely not
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it's in the name monocytes precisely
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it's it's a it's by definition google
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has never been evil and so they cannot
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have possibly collaborated right in in
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in smudging out there map program with
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evil forces or people that have secret
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installations in the forest so it has to
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be either a just a coincidence be an
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accident so for baby you know there's
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your thumb thumb smudge on the lens lips
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or uh or the or it's like a Stuxnet
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thing where the government has great
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here we go as written aspects not
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program stuff net program this is the
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one that's gonna be the one john blurbs
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out all their secret forest background
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check a small bag you got about 40
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seconds to pick that he getting I don't
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have a small bag that commander we were
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we were spotted all pick forged wire her
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treachery and looks like a swimming pool
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might have to bring it over
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I've got it I've got a safe room I've
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got a I've got a decoy safe route
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haha i have a tunnel under the street
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and I have it all away from this place
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setting aside Howard use this is why I'm
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obsessed with this it seems very
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important John having IC having a safe
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yeah they're just gonna burn it down
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around you i was trying to explain the
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very little bit that I understand about
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security to people and what's that
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what's that one that was the term that
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they use okay for example try to explain
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to my friend how I think about security
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and as a demonstration we were in like a
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little green room conference room thing
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I took I took six paper cups and I put
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them on a table and I said which one has
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the million dollars under it you have
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one guess
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and he said I have no idea so I
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surreptitiously took one of the cups and
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drew a giant lock on it and said this is
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locked and then I move them all around i
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said ok which one of those as
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million-dollar after it and and it the
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one with the law
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oddly enough he picked them with the
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giant fucking lock on it my concern
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somebody goes out and they spend like
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probably 4,000 29 million dollars on a
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safe room you could probably buy a pro
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very nice safe room right yeah but do
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you think the safe room is gonna come
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it's gonna cost you fifty thousand
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dollars for the base model
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yeah yeah it's like it's like a
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Rorschach finding the comedian's costume
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he's gonna go make sure the closet
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he's going to see at like a medieval
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horror style huh that's kind of weird
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there's an extra like couple inches here
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I wonder what's going on here you can
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get a fucking blueprint of any house in
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America that's not going to be hard i
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think what you need isn't as an
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obviously overstock super obvious but
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secret enough safe room and that net
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becomes sure that becomes your trap your
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trap room right wrap from craft room
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they go there and they think he's gotta
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be in here somewhere and they spent 15
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hours with an arc welder trying to break
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in through your vintage safe door i'm
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not giving away too much here now
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vintage and vintage can be a very long
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time John and and in fact you're safe
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room is just it's just this ikea bed but
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had a hinge on it that led to a stairway
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that's kind and that's here
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hey nobody's gonna look under the ikea
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but that's not the first place you're
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gonna look you know my whole life this
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has become kind of a thing now to like
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have a house with you know
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oh if you're rich person your bookcase
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can turn around like I can take on how
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much my entire life i have wanted to
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have tunnels in my house and under my
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house I think every single listener
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robbery gone that has survived this far
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yeah probably has a desire to have a
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bookcase that opens to reveal a secret
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room or or a fake secret room
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ah no no no i think absolutely right i
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bet i bet all of us either on our desk
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or in our head or in an undisclosed
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location and I do have the domain name
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undisclosed location com
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actually um you somewhere you have you
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have a jar that if it is not full of
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your own urine for sanitary reasons
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probably is full of pocket change
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because you're saving up to fucking
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retrofit whatever you live in to have
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tunnels
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I I was like having a slide would be
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nice now in the professor is so nice
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this is very important professor X's
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mansion they have escaped tunnels so
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that the Sentinels are or striker comes
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to have a way to get out
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I don't understand at this point in my
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life I don't understand I'm 45 years old
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and living in a place with two means of
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egress both of which are exposed
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you don't know what it's like to have a
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child live with that why would i would
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be very I would prevent
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possible yeah agent my house has many
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many ground floor excellence your house
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hmm you just be really should be real
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careful about this but the room that I
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slept in that last couple nights
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yeah it occurred to me that that that
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room is kind of the center of the house
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even though it feels like the least
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important room in the house there's one
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room we can zip through it and you're
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almost you're almost anywhere in the
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house including upstairs in a second
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yeah and you'll notice you may not
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notice this I should probably shouldn't
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reveal this we can cut it out will end
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up we're gonna end up cutting out pretty
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much everything except Hodgman breaking
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your ukulele but that room has as a
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variety of motion detectors in it
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food because even though it is the least
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important room in the house even though
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it appears to be the least important
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room in the house you would no matter
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where you were in the house you would
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end up passing through that room
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triggering the motion detectors
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aah so when I was this motion detectors
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around my house
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sure I noticed you had their little bit
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what out of period and a krista connect
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the reverse the mechanistic I noticed
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that you have several very difficult to
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notice motion detectors and you can put
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them in places where it's like oh well
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here I'm protecting my whatever my boot
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collection who but that's not what you
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to be put motion detectors in places
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where people think that they will be
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passing on observed you put them in
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places where people are like oh well
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just you know take a shortcut through
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here like uh-huh right exactly is this
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kind of helped enough tactics have been
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upto can write like all i need to do or
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like for that matter in a big brother
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all i have to do is make you have a
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plausible gut feeling that you either
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are being watched or more likely could
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be being watched
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often enough right you only need to
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point at you is a tinted window
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whoo-hoo nothing has to be behind it who
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as long as there's a tinted window there
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the the suspicion that someone is behind
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it watching you who mmm well that's good
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and so who and so that room I was that
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were me I would fortify that room is the
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panopticon room
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panopticon it is kind of at the center
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to that's right well in any case it was
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it was it was amazing to get to see all
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the stuff firsthand
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he will restore your chili it was it was
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absolutely amazed and full of swords you
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know I had a brief was gonna pay was a
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foil whatever I didn't think you had a
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saber yes gotta attack me with a sword
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he did and he gave you and he he he
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actually threw you a sword movement said
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defend yourself i started crying what's
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called a sword was a very uncomfortable
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a very short sword fight
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yeah he's very thin bones guys you know
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he's very small tumor so it makes it
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hard for him to breathe so you and and
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Scotty exactly directly connect the trap
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streets
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yes absolutely yeah he's got Simpson and
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and john hodgman and jonathan coulton
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and Kathleen Edwards and four for a
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brief period even Jonathan Colton's
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performed henchmen Scarface who were all
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staying in my house at once
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it should have worked there's no reason
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in the world should have worked but a
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but in fact it did you kept finding more
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places for people to sleep that maybe it
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getting to be close quarters
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even though you have to you know at
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least two bathtubs that you'll discuss
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and numerous numerous you know restroom
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facilities I kept thinking I keep a
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little bit like MOOCs in a phone booth I
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kind of started to wonder how many more
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delist entertainmentcelebrities could
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potentially sleep in this house that
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there's more room if you need it but
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when i was considering is there there's
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absolutely room for more bends I just
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haven't I don't want my I don't want my
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house to look like a safe house you know
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what I mean like I what I don't know
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you're saying somebody comes in with
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like some kind of extra heat vision
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goggles they see 35 days they're gonna
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have questions
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yeah exactly and i kinda wanna take a
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look at the harriet tubman of indie rock
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i hope you feel like it looks right I'm
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not running an underground where at
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railroad for people whose careers were
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on the rock haha i'm a i-i-i i'm i'm
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running a house here and I wanted to
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look like a nice house that us so that
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like a somewhat normal bachelor lives
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who in by himself or with with various
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you know operatives but I don't want I
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don't want but I don't want to
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don't want to seem like the like the
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let's go to the mattresses scene in The
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Godfather know where it's just it's 15
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guys cleaning their shotguns what I want
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that's not saying that I know and what I
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want like guarantee no I don't think
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what I want without without doing is no
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it was we learned during that that that
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that intense time I i agree with you
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know here's the other thing like if
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you're one of those idiots trying to
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fucking grow weed in your house your
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electric bill is going to go through the
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roof and and the black helicopters are
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going to be shooting things at your
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house where you will actually be a big
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red glowing ball of ultraviolence
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ultraviolence alright you know square
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lights this regret this girl likes to
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throw out a lot of wattage doing and if
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I understand that from a black ops
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helicopter you could actually you can
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actually see with a heat scanner dealing
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with a technical term you can actually
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see who's growing wheat yeah they use
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their heat scanner dealers
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is that true I mean what you can say i
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heard that story I've heard DEA guys can
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do that absolutely can
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although although there's some kind of
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uh I think that they could say I think
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it's past the search warrant question of
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like hey we're not we're just running
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are our infrared cameras over the town
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looking for people who are who haven't
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insulated there i don't think that would
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be admissible in evidence
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I like you I i am an amateur attorney i
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don't think that I'm not but I'm not an
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amateur litigator I do mostly amateur
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contract work but as yet I believe that
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the thing is now it whatever you can see
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from outside somebody's house with
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normal vision and so forth this is fair
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game but with the with infrared cameras
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that would that would be across the line
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you think 2012 that's normal vision
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I'm know exactly especially if you have
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to settle built a purpose robot that
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that you know what about listening you
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know you can like hear vibrations you
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can certainly identify the right now I'm
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he you can hear you're not alone my
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friend you start you start watching that
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how he's moving start reading that bio
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everyone else no no i've i've gone down
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the howard hughes myself and i had i
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climbed back out and barely made it out
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with my clothes were shredded the future
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yeah but you remember as we were sitting
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in the garden have
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a high-level conference but there was a
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strange scenario where this guy's were
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feeling full military helicopters and
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low-flying Navy Jets i braid you're
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gonna bring this up because I feel as
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though I may be and not by your design I
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feel like I'm being deeply drawn into
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your world because I was a witness to
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planes that weren't there I was witness
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to buy your account i believe it was it
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four to six unmarked Navy planes they
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had a piece of the call sign on the tail
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that might have been made up but they
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were otherwise unmarked and sometimes
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you can even see them and it but you
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live by the airport if I could say not
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super near the airport kinda wanna do it
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I would i do that by the airport but
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do you know anybody who lives by an
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airport where there are invisible
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helicopters i knows you were witness to
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invisible helicopters John there's no
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fucking question I was witness to that I
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know people who live near airports
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I know people who see invisible things
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and I know a lot of people who hear
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things that may or may not be there but
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I was fucking witness in your yard with
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a cup of coffee a lot of coffee I was
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witness to with your assistance numerous
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very suspicious Terran you know your
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earthling what appeared to be earthling
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aerospace devices that were right things
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were wrong person were behaving in a way
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that was that was inherently suspicious
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right I understand the Doppler effect i
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understand the Doppler effect i know how
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that works
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I understand that you see the lightning
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then hear the Thunder I understand that
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but we had a clear vision of the clear
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skies and I swear to Christ I think
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there were some decoy noises I think
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there may have been some stealth copters
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I don't have a way of explaining this
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but but you know you here's the thing
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you expect to see 129 of those in a year
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and I think we saw about 16 in a day
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well as i said to you and I think I've
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said before if you were a UFO how would
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you describe yourself if not as a a a
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regular jet but just one that has no
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markings i thought about it constantly
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can I just say you would not write on a
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paper cup i'm fucking UFO no you
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wouldn't and also i am I my suspicion is
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that these aircraft actually have
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aircraft sound broadcasting technology
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who where they are there they're
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throwing they're basically throwing
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their voices throwing their airplane
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so that because the thing is that by
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living button it living by the airport I
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am witness to dozens of jets a day that
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behave like normal jets and they sound
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like normal Jets and the jet flies and
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it sounds like it's the sound is coming
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from the jet but then there are these
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periods these strange periods when all
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of a sudden they're they're black hawk
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helicopters all around with her and then
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their jets flying but then there are
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other there the sound of Jets coming
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from all around and no jets at all
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e because they're throwing their voices
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well there's no John let's let's look at
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the facts here could you not probably
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tell more or less if you somewhere on
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your block is someone shot a pistol you
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could have a pretty i'm guessing you
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would have a pretty good idea what
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caliber of pistol that was whenever
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someone on my block shoots a pistol
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whenever sorry and it's you know and
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it's it's not all the time
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have a good day a regular enough that it
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really are either either it's ramadan or
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there's a wedding or uh something that's
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the end of that somebody just got to get
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away the natural result of a wedding our
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aura somebody just got laid off from
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their job or in the case the most recent
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does the most recent gun that was fired
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in my neighborhood was that my next-door
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neighbor went into his daughter's room
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in the middle of the night to find a
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teenage boy there with her and the
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teenage boy jumped out the window onto
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the roof and my neighbor he was her
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guest he was our guest okay my and the
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teenage girl was telling her dad don't
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know no and he ran out into the street
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and the teenage boy was running up the
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street and he fired
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I a handful of a of 32 rounds into the
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sky is that a Saturday night special
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that's a well yeah basically took with
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police police special
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ok and so you know this is like four
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thirty in the morning which is kinda
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right in my that's in my afternoon and
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so I was able to be at my window and
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know how many shots yet last i was able
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to be at my window and you know and pen
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and ready
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to engage fully ready to engage whoever
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it was and it was my neighbor standing
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in the street in his underwear shooting
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his gun in the air and I went oh alright
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well dad I'm not needed here
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well apparently he's got he's got the
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uniform his eyes got real well in hand
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he's got the yeah he's got the uniform
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of underwear and gun about 30 minutes
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this is now five o'clock in the morning
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there the street is full of cop cars
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because somebody called him not me and
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he's my neighbor is out there stone his
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underwear explaining himself to these
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cops and it isn't long before they're
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all laughing and slapping each other on
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the back and it's a it's a big you know
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big hoedown out there and they you know
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they wag their fingers at him and oh you
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and he had it goes back inside and the
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cops drive off and I'm like interesting
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so I don't see him for a couple of days
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but the next time I run into him I k
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what was that all about these techniques
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he tells me the story and it all seems
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it all seems perfectly normal
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that is a that is an incident that
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that's an example of what I could
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consider just the normal firearm
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discharge that goes along with with the
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with living in this part of town but now
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that the police are testing their
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automatic weapons down the hill
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it is it is just it is disturbing my
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ability to locate and identify normal
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gunfire oh and their food
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not a lot of people neighborhood that
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might be just unnerving but for you that
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is adding if I may say noise as satin
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noise static precisely
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yeah I i mentioned it the other day on
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Twitter like the police are are testing
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their I mean there that they didn't used
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to didn't use to fire automatic weapons
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they sat down there at their gun range
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and then went PAP PAP PAP but now they
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feel outgunned or something and they're
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down there with with machine guns
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and you know that obviously it only
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happens for a little bit for a little
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bit you know once it runs every few days
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they decide to unleash a fusillade who
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but uh but it really is you know usually
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in this neighborhood when you heard
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automatic weapons
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that's when you knew that the that
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someone was having a dispute that some
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young people are having a dispute I
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might have been about real estate or
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commerce it would be it would be
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something that would be a real estate
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problem a commerce problem it might be
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it might be a romantic
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oh but uh but anyway so that so the
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game and I believe it's another example
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of looks like they're throwing sound
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they're throwing sound at me in order to
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confuse and disrupt by my normal
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perception
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yeah it's one thing to play a van Halen
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to Manuel Noriega because I who knows
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whether he's a fan yeah i think you
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would probably be mostly okay with that
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it's hot for teacher you might want to
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just dig in you know and then make some
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more coffee when they were explaining
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that they were that they were trying to
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irritate manuel noriega by playing van
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halen really loud I was like how at that
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that was right at the age where you and
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I brought both probably were like what
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that sounds amazing right they actually
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play in Panama right yeah well that's a
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link that little that's a little on the
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it's a little on the nose but they were
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playing it through some army grade hifi
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system this year we have special hi-fi's
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name i'm sorry if you can say i'm pretty
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sure the arm that the Army has Wi-Fi
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technology that the rest of us can only
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dream of
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well it seems like my boy is gonna guess
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this is exactly around sound for years
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weaponizing the Browns I spend so much
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in my day worrying about when the Browns
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every time I hear a train coming I'm
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thinking that's it this is the brown
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sound this is going to be disruptive
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like I need a fucking brown sound mind
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you know what they would test it out on
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San Francisco to that's the first place
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with or maybe they would have it
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shootout at the non-existent playing the
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mayor may not really be there there's a
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question to you were you there i believe
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you were there when something either to
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my friends my friends find this either
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supernatural or i find it embarrassing
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were you there when a truck
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was heard outside your house and call me
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service i was able to identify which
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delivery service it was always just
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brilliant
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yeah you were really you identified by
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the by the sound of the diesel motor and
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the way the truck drove to see here this
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is the beauty of expertise I can't tell
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you why the roast beef weighs five
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pounds all i know is that the recipe for
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his five pounds right you did you use
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fedex that he said fedex and we all
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walked around the side of the house and
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sure enough it was a fedex truck the
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weekend and we were like oh I'm really
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good at it but the thing is that
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listening to that motor to mean as a
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non-expert who that could have been a
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garbage truck it could have been us
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it could've been you use certainly be
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forgiven for sandbagging here John but I
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i do think you're I think you're
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sandbagging I i well anyway let's not
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get into it but I'm really good at UPS
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versus a postal service the the united
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states postal service they have a very
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very recognizable sound to them and I
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think also ok here you ready for this
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year's to their motor crazy maybe you
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know like you go by we will talk about
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this with suits like you gonna get a
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previous now it's got to fit Carson on
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skeuomorphism right trying to make so
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excited about that such an interesting
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idea John everything is related
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are you aware that it really everything
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is related
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yes that's my it's on my family crashed
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right after right after roast beef
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sandwich to keep that in the real safe
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room if you can say yeah I'm so I was
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working on the crest okay here's the
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thing i get i'm sorry to say so many
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deliveries of various kinds right
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no we were discussing this that you you
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have you are taking advantage of the new
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economy who haha
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more than anything I am ruining the
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environment excuse me
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so you are someone who would rather have
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uh you'd rather have his toilet paper
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delivered for warehouse and China towels
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and paper parasols flown across the
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country and hand delivered to your door
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if it was if it's three cents cheaper
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then then then you would go down to the
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corner grocery store and John if it were
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twenty dollars more i still do it just
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because i want to offset all of this
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green stuff that's going on
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so yeah you literally order your toilet
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paper from a warehouse in Kentucky and
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have it have it delivered hand-delivered
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to this is this is the kind of thing
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that should be in books what i do should
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be in books because it is so appalling
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on so many levels that it's the thing
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kind of thing that people will
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eventually write about his company based
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in Seattle called Amazon that i use
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amazon.com is their web address on the
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apparently they are there turns out
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taking over the internet according to
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Wired magazine
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oh they are with you we were there when
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you got a picture taken with the
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functional and i showed you those
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lockers
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ya can't seem to have same-day delivery
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so long so long Bob's comics
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okay so here's the thing i hate Bob and
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I was such a dick i hate box camera
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smaller I hate Bob's hobby shop
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hey don't box camera store was actually
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they helped me out but secure for prime
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ones my dad service pistol for more to i
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still havent and he had never cleaned it
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as far as I could tell us ever since
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he's just the bluing anecdote
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yeah ever since he moved out of the ever
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since we moved out of them maybe since
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he left the Navy but I took it into this
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gun shop called Bob Bob guns
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this is that is all this story already
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about how much loss today because the
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blooming in this rebuilding the
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seventies
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well yeah but was what was amazing about
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it was I walk into this place with a gun
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kind of in my jacket and I walk over and
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I'm like I put it down on the table and
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I'm like you know hey I don't know how
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to I don't think about this gun I don't
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know how to clean it and I want to know
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how to clean it i want to know how to
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take it apart and they were they all
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gathered around and they strip this gun
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down to like just the just then the the
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nuts and washers you know and the guy
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walks me through the process of of
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cleaning it
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it's like field stripping it cleaning it
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and putting it back together and he does
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it for me like four times
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real slow like here's how you do it you
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can look it up he knows he is somebody
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comes in with it with a sixty-year-old
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45 and any and he just goes on to say to
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absolutely and every and all the guys
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behind the counter they're all have to
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react to read the instructions on how to
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change my tire every time these guys
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look at their that the things they are
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exactly the guys that run comic book
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stores they're the same guys there
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heavyset guys
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justice there's there's there's a vast
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although these vests are like bristling
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with guns but they do they have the same
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vest have the same kind of like they're
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there they're losing their hair but
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they've got some hair and its kind of
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that's likes just plastered down with
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sweat they have a beard that's trimmed
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kind of it they trimmed it kind of kind
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of clothes but then some haven't shaved
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in a few days so the hair is kind of
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going back and and they brought that
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same expertise to this thing where the
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again and the guy I wasn't there to buy
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anything I wasn't there I I that we had
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no commercial interaction of any kind
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he just spent a half an hour teaching me
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really slowly how to field strip and put
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back together that field trip cleaning
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and reassemble this gun and it was
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because he loved it and I was so I i'm
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still so grateful to that guy and that
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was that was a place called Bob's guns
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you know I'm sorry I apologize that 1000
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cuz it's not Hobbs the whole Bob
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enterprise like at bobs cameras Bob's
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bugs comic books
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you're right i don't care about this
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well it's just certain things that I
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mean I don't want to be reductive as you
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know I never want to be reductive w you
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are not ever reductive know now a look
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you know I its there's a certain type
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you know and and i think that one of the
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extreme examples can be at the comic
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book guy right not simply the 12 steps
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and speakers i did you send you a link
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Herman the guy who runs the gun store on
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the simpsons i think is pretty close to
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what you're talking about and I live up
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to it and square alliance as quickly and
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are you talking about a sk valiance
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being the wolf avoidance everyone's
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official responsibilities that what
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you're talking about so excited about is
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covalent is covalent isn't a great word
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school of aliens who is very great word
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but anyway you were saying about the
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jury that surveillance meeting about it
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and I'd i'm very excited I kind of feel
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like it should be
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I kind of feel like that should be an
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easter egg who bowl that's a good idea
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yeah yeah no soap radio that's good well
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let's check this legislation to also
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check the door um before
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so your usual us welcome welcome roger
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wilco attendance can you explain to me
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your your interest in in radio
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terminology or is that so sure I can
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shrink and I can also there
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oh no no i don't think so i could I
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little bit i can also discuss my amazon
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workflow we can talk about chili was
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much more interested in your amazon
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relational you know i believe was on the
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show that we were discussing discussing
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some of these matters and my interest in
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what's called voice procedure for you
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and a friend a friend of the show i
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believe was the show but a friend sent
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along a fan tastic PDF that i will 40 in
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case you missed it which is this very
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very long document of pretty much
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everything I've ever wanted to know
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about all of that stuff a bunch of stuff
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about how to identify like when you're
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making a little map in the sand and make
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square here and here's what we know
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about happening it's all how to do that
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army stuff i wish i knew about yeah and
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I think it might even have what I've
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been looking for for years and I there's
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no way i can show you what i'm doing
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right now but imagine I'm squatting not
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and I've got camouflage camo makeup i
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believe they got it and imagine that
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there's a bunch of guys with me there's
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some guys over there and other guys over
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there and using my hand signals pointing
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at my eyes and sticking up a certain
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number of fingers I give directions
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right I want to know what the fuck that
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is and how I can do it well you know I
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have a cousin named for that is their
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special forces handbook here and I
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copy of it for you can even do that this
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page is your occipital is it in like
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blue ink or anything
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oh good good point no I think they are
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xerox people that release that might
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release I you know can I apologize for
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the hierarchies concerns that might upon
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upon exposure to bright light like you
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yeah yeah well I wondered why we can
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raise money it might it might actually
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release some kind of a subtle gas that
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would enable black ops to see that you
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tried 20 special optimal I don't make it
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well you know the special ops manual has
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a lot of a lot of like your tiger trap
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instructions haha i need that I
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that one thing it doesn't look like it
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doesn't talk about is whether the book
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itself is a tiger trap
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well see this is the thing I think this
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is the trap Street us are my best friend
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everyday job in a thousand times when
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conventional warfare manual this is
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something i need to read I should
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probably also be waterboarded not a lot
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like a little bit you know I think
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everybody in America should be
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waterboarded a little bit just to
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experience what it just to experience
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like what what is when they should cost
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which they pay for that would be a lady
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doing it i think there should i think
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there should be a little Korean lady at
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the airport
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whoo-hoo right next to the massage
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tables a small like Linda hunt sized em
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small enough that she needs to stand on
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a on a overturn milk crate to properly
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waterboard a big man but it'd be
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something that as your cuz you're coming
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you're your there at the airport you got
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45 minutes before your flight
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I looks like one of those creepy massage
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tables yeah you go get somebody to pour
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water down your throat while they're
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holding a cheese cloth over your face so
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you gotta just so you get a sense of
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what I have a real different sense of
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that the feeling of that I know it no
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matter what its gonna be horrible and
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ice cream for them to stop but i think i
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would scream differently depending on
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who is doing I'm like a lie to you
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hmm i bet this popular in Germany but
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not with water you mean like if somebody
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was waterboarding you but they were also
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kind of cradling your balls they call it
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as i said board is important it's
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important no way that would be still be
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Swedish I guess anyway
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god dammit this is gonna suck we're
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gonna rock this episode John there's
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just too much here what one of the
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questions that i have for you at
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somebody who has done multiple multiple
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multiple podcast who I feel that we are
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getting into a place where neither you
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nor I can fully separate our real-life
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interactions our podcast interactions
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that we are we're having this kind of
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this hesitancy where it's like have we
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talked about this before I know I told
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me about this before but have we now
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what do we do like personally I
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personally could care fucking less if we
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get ourselves personally personally
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alright but but I mean more insight
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about the time that I stole my dad's
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what what oh wait I've never told that
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story I never heard that story
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oh my gosh we'll get to that
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yeah i'm gonna need another stack coming
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up my game delivery truck sound my
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amazon workflow yeah now-now workflow ok
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we talked about this at length with
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scott simpson which is which is how long
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can we sustain a universe in which
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toilet paper it is getting way in which
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it is cost effective to deliver toilet
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paper and uh and paper towel yeah that
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have been flown to your town from far
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far away I i actually have I know the
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answer that until 25 years ago haha
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we're already past it so here's how this
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works I'll make this quick
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first we should mention that you that by
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the register will put this up a
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tremendous photo of taken by forget the
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clutch Scott took a wonderful photo of
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you and I in front of a pump chili /
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cheese machine at a 7-eleven I think we
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both look very handsome
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that was my local as they say in the UK
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that's your local your local 7-eleven
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and you say there's this is frequently
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some very colorful characters out there
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yeah well as we were rounding the corner
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I i prepared you guys for before like
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making it further over who we might see
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attract the Phalanx of junkies you know
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that neighborhood is one of those
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neighborhoods that 25 years ago no one
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in the city zoning office had held any
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hope out for it at all
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they were like ah this is this
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neighborhoods like really close into
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town and it has a bunch of big Victorian
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houses who's ever going to want to live
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there who
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so this is the neighborhood that we're
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gonna put all the halfway houses all the
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like you know group homes and places
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where people are have just been released
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from jail but because their level three
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sex offender we can't really release
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them into the larger population so they
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have to live together all lojacked think
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that anything like a 17-room Victoria
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favor guided by voices records hello
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Jackie the repeat offender and so that
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neighborhood as you walk down the street
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of course of course yeah
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in the intervening 20 years eighty
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percent of those large Victorian homes
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have been completely restored and now
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have young couples living in them and
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the and the sidewalk out front is
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covered with chalk drawings of
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princesses and start
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like their children each one has exactly
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one fucking obvious safe room right
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there are there are from from house to
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house you can go to bed and flags next
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house no Tibetan flags next house
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Tibetan flags and it kind of get a sense
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of who from rainbow rainbow fly-in
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princess drawing there was that there
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was the funk band playing across the
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street as we walked walked up the block
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they were good and they were polite they
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were nice they were playing out a polite
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volume for a neighborhood and then
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there's the victorian house which is a
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sex offender halfway house
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this is the one of what she spoke you
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said you said you live near a place
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within the puffy leather jacket episode
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or puffy
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yeah the unique false other guy in the
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puffy jacket you describe it with memory
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serves you have one place that is for
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dangerous people and another one that's
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for dangerous crazy people right and
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they're both they're both on the same
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block and they're both nice convenient
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sell this Amazon has to bring them
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toilet paper can you imagine the
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economies of scale to that but you know
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what they don't they they they just have
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a steady like every day it's just like a
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conveyor belt of toilet paper peanut
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butter who and things that can be made
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into shits well you know they're out in
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this they're out on the street they're
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not only are they are being held in
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these structures these structures
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couldn't hold them anyway they're just
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didn't they could like punch their way
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through the walls of these old rickety
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houses anyway so they can they tend to
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congregate out in front of that 7-eleven
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and some of them are swatting at
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imaginary bees and some of them are
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trying to secure some methadone and some
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of them are a you know are like standing
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out there really like smoking really
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angrily like they're so mad and they're
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not mad at the cigarette we've been
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angry smoker in our neighborhood you do
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always super angry and very ritualistic
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mad mad mad and smokes a cigarette all
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the way down to the butt and then like
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I'm gonna make a video and show this to
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you but he has yeah you you when you
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were in the u.s Civil Air Patrol we win
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i was in the similar but you have to do
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any drills with with rifles we did do
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some rifle drills there's my god there's
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a 16 move rifle I forget what it's
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called but indications but there's a 16
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move rifle thing that I can still do in
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my sleep with
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it's and everything yeah boom been
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caught right it's like firearms kata
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it's like jock tick-tock pit pup keep
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both side down and up and down and over
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and imagine imagine if somebody had a
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cigarette kata or cigarette cadence I
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don't know what you call it so imagine
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this guy who's very tall and very old
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and he imagined him like starts out with
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his cigarette at waist level lit he pops
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it up at a 45-degree angle throws it at
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his face as though he's trying to aim
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for his mouth takes an angry puff pulls
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it back out and down and doing that
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repeatedly every one and a half seconds
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until the cigarette is going to stop it
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Bob chick up deep ball and you stand
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there for that restaurant on my house i
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like it like a great malignant gargoyle
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so you go in and we got the Amazon you
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got to think on amazon prime which i
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have to mention you're probably a member
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of that's a very secret organization but
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you go in for 80 bucks a year everybody
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knows this you get almost everything on
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amazon and deliver in two days for free
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or overnight for 399 and it's literally
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destroying retail America and and so
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what we do is we say you know what we
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want the costco size box of paper towels
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and we want that delivered to our home
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automatically bills for it every 30 days
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send a giant testing of paper towels or
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house which on the face of it almost
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sounds innocuous until you really think
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about the fact that somebody took a made
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some cardboard wrap paper around it
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yeah and I wrap plastic around six of
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those right put six of those in a
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cardboard box and then somewhere in reno
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nevada that is put on a truck and is
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driven to my home so we pay to have
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paper delivered to our house it's
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basically could we please have a monthly
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box of things to throw away and just do
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you just tell me do you uh I'm guessing
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that at the end of every month you have
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you very seldom make your way all the
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way through that gross of toilet paper
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whatever i'd like to lap now I think it
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should be clean clean start yeah you so
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so you don't have a few there's not a
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closet in the house where toilet papers
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be stockpiling and and pretty soon you
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have like the years worth in there like
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roll it roll over sheets
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yeah like the leftover rolls who
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who like rollover minutes like rui we're
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not going to have what we have extra
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rolls that would go into our third
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safehouse bathroom we have rollover
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minutes and in in your toilet paper
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here's the thing once you become a paper
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towel person in my sense is that you are
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i was a parsimonious i would say given
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the high extremely high quality of the
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paper towels that you use those blue
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ones that are like for automotive garage
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to which are which can be reusable us
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it's more like at the grocery store when
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somebody throws up or think milk breaks
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and start stop and stuff but all I've
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seen matt i love that love that
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oh no no we recently moved to one that's
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half sheets and so I'm gonna look right
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now those are energy
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yeah yeah now I contrast this so
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basically I'm single-handedly ruining
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the environment
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I contrast this with my grandfather my
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my grandfather who was it was probably
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the cheapest man I ever met my life he
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was instructing me on how to wipe by
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saying that you never need more than a
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total of six sheets of single play
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total of six sheets of single play
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toilet paper to take care of your your
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bottom area
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yeah this is what is this is what I grew
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up with Jonathan Scott toilet paper and
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directions from a man from South America
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and white
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well you know between his probably bent
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his defense when he was a kid he had he
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had like a banana leaf that he carried
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with him everywhere
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yeah he's colonialists oh so he's really
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nice banana leaves
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oh well he had a rag that he had a rag
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that something was track right watch out
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for they call it a hairy Harry rag you
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got you got you got you 33 for the first
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for the first first cut and in 24 second
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time you know
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oh my god if you want to do it till it's
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bloody you you better you better get in
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there fast because that's you get six
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and that's it
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yes he was very upset with how much
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here's the other thing to a paper towels
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he had this friend so might my
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grandparents and their best friends have
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both retired from Cincinnati
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gas-electric at the same time and move
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to the same place in Florida and the
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victim to be friends for life
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John Klump you think they were having
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tea parties I i have certainly thought
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about it I've wanted my father my
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grandfather was a war criminal
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he was definitely not a dentist he came
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here to become a dentist and that never
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happened i think it was some kind of a
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I don't know but John club became
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everything that went wrong in the house
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he would explain how John Klump did it
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better now in John Klumps house you have
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a one paper towel one paper 21 paper
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towel or napkin for lunch you fold it
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like a fucking gentleman you put it
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under your placement because you're 17
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you have a placement and use it again at
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dinner that's how my grandfather rolled
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why haha oh he kept he kept John he kept
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a close eye on the paper now wait a
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minute give me give me the give me the
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back story on why you have any
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suspicions at all but your grandfather
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might have been a war criminal in South
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America he was he was one of those guys
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he was missing from South America or did
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he do ya simply stop over in South
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America who two things yes good question
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well you know have lost generation I
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think he was like what the found
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generation he was lucky bastards that
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was too young for war one and two old
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four World War two
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so obviously i don't think he was
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rolling daring or or such
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he his family were Colonials they were
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they were diamond people low-level
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diamond people from London who just
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happened to be in british guiana Wow
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bring johnstown turns out turns out boy
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and he could use he could use the n-word
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with abandoned
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I was really good at it he was I really
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really good at it i really want to hear
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more about him that what we get we could
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certainly get into that
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yes I all I'm saying is if I can if I
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can identify the sound of my paper
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towels arriving right yeah it was an
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exciting day that's like Christmas
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morning
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ok so my favorite towels are here the
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paper towels are here one of Howard
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Hughes had extremely detailed written
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instructions about the any kind of
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paddles you make up that you make it you
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need a certain number of paddles paddles
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are what you would use to handle things
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so if you're going to open a cabinet
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that required five Kleenexes he wrote
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these out he had I posted this on my
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internet site he had like that in public
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restrooms I know rather paper towel in
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my hand here he had three pages single
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spaced on how his staff was to open
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canned fruit
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listen I don't think it's healthy for
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you two to start researching Howard
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Hughes and feature it's it's too it's
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too close to feature click halfway the
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future you have to leave that alone and
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you should you should research you
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should reach research people that are
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like they're having sex parties and
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enter you know what you're there you're
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you know what it is it's too on-the-nose
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i think i think so anyway I was on a
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program the other day discussing
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obsessive-compulsive disorder and I
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didn't even realize how much of a
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certain kind of casino for example and
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I'm this is not about you accepted as
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much as it's probably about you you know
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hoarding hoarding just such an ugly word
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it's enabled store terrible word tonight
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I mean to wrap you hoarding is a form of
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OCD you know that right
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well yeah when you when you have when
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you have stacks of like old coupons and
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like empty cans of beans lying around
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that's hoarding yeah but what I'm doing
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this what I'm doing is collecting I
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think you're you're an archivist your
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historian yeah um that the only family
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only if i could get paper towels and
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toilet paper from goodwill then I think
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haha so it might be distressed but it's
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definitely not used it's probably sealed
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by as part of supertrain who my the
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initial concept of super train was that
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you would have in home recycling so that
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all you all your glass and your aluminum
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now never could have dreamed it would go
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this far
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it's not it's it's not that
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yard I you know backyard steel but it
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but it is you know you have a little you
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have a little that some holes in the
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kick in the countertop and you can you
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separate your recycling as you do now
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but instead of it being trucked away to
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some mysterious you know third location
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in the in the counter of your kitchen
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that would be the that would be the
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grinders and the master caters and its
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Lemke and then you would create the
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slurry right there and then you're
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you're in encounter recycling thing
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would you know would make new glass
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bottles
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although of course you know what I don't
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know why you would want that but let's
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say you're near encounter then then if
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when the truck pulled up out front
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you could hand them you can have them a
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compacted glass block of your green
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glass in your white glass and but you
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can make your own paper you could you
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could extract all the precious metals so
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that at the end of the month you had a
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little vial of gold and all that they
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would they would collect like the fat
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off of the George Foreman grill exactly
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you get you know there that little trace
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amount of silver the little trace amount
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of a little 10-cup you know that's
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exactly right
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ah so it is because you get me what I
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just don't understand quite all the
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details for super train which is
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probably going to be better for me but
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is there is there an extrusion involved
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we love the idea of a super tight little
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cube it's like a garbage compactor
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accepted heineken bottles or what have
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you but it could there be some basic
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extrusion where you could slurry your
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player plastics into like an as-needed
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plastic with without off-gassing or
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outgassing yeah i think i think i think
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absolutely although what what you would
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end up with what you end up with is a
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little pile of carbon and some very
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highly refined oil and you could sell
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the oil in the open market and then we
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would then you sequester the carbon and
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everybody everybody would have you know
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potentially have a little neighborhood
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carbon sink where you would you know you
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take your you take your carbon and and
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and all throw down one hole and then
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then make diamonds
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with you know when pressed and pressed
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the carbon into until it was until
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eternity and every step of the way
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pressure of some sort is going to be
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important in the supertrain it's really
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going to be about different kinds of
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pressure of physical emotional but in
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the right place at the right time and
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eventually having some kind of a fucking
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diamond it ends up being a still it ends
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up in every house has a little still who
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and you throw everything into and you're
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the revenuer this still cooks it down
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and at the end you have some magnesium
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and you have some you know some you have
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a little bit of you know trace platinum
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and palladium menu you collect those
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things until you have enough of that of
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that to sell on the open market then you
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have oil and carbon and and you know
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hopefully fresh rolls of toilet paper
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but for reasons that will be obvious
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soon and doubt i will ever literally
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probably just delete my entire computer
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having said this it isn't fair to say
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that the slurry and extrusion process
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and the production of oil inside of the
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consumers home it's fair to say that
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that's a little bit of a trap Street
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like that's how it'll go at first and
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you go holy shit
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I've got some oil for the open market it
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just seems to me that in time
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that's something super trains gonna want
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/ need I see what you mean I are you are
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you guys okay here's the thing you're a
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man who is self-sustaining right we'll
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e-mail when I wish I wish I were more
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self-sustaining looks like you moving
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closer rather than further i hope so I
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hope so that's a hermetic per se my goal
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would you like people to be
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self-sustaining or would you like to
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talk to literally become like pot people
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that you can extrude resources from well
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you see now you remember the the R crumb
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a comic strip where he draws the
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progression you have that on your wall
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I read on the wall I have a version of
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it that was done by Tony millionaire but
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the original our crumb you know he
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starts with the pastoral scene and then
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they chop down the forest that built the
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railroads and then it's a town and then
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it's a and it's a city and then it's a
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then in his estimation it was this grit
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the last panel was this gross so
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seventies reality was where he he
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clearly his editorial voice was like
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this is what it's come to
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but but in the original panel he did he
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did a couple of extra panels where he
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was like we're here
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worried he thought about the future and
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and one of his one of his future escapes
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was this classic seventies utopia where
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people were living in treehouses like
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the Swiss Family Robinson and they were
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recycling and they were and and the
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metas a version that's one version that
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that I know leftists carry around in
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their mind which is that we're all gonna
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have solar panels on the on the roofs of
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our houses and we're gonna be selling
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electricity back to the grid
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we're not only going to we are not only
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going to be self-sufficient but we're
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gonna be selling it back to the grid as
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far as super trains interest in this it
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really i think it depends on who after
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I'm gone through the next CEO talks like
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don't talk like that it happens in our
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family we all pass to the great beyond
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and super train i think well while you
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know while i am the lime the font of
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supertrain I think we can trust that
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supertrain wants everyone to become more
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self-sufficient but just as super train
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arrived it reaches its kind of full
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potential that's getting my destination
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if you like that will be right well you
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know there is super train has no one
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destination but i'll be just about the
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time that i am ready to I'm ready to to
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moving on to a more pastoral life and
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who takes over super train after me the
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young people if they can I mean
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supertrain could go either way and it
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could be it could be the supertrain
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meets needs all that oil is it depends
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on what kind are green and we're looking
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for if I may say look if you want to
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kind of green and CFL light bulbs
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supertrain could kick it could go on
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this track right if we want the kind of
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green that comes from literally stealing
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refined oil from from the
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african-american families home
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that's a different kind of green that's
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a different green conceivably that you
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know there's and that's that's part of
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that's that is the case of the liberal
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imagination right there are the people
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that want the green that is represented
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by the prius with which is a kind of
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green that required that your old car
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was the old car was destroyed and this
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new car was manufactured and shipped to
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you from overseas in order that you save
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some like a
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almost done measurably small and a giant
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Chinese boat run by cheap oil so that
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you could get here and then gas in it
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right you're perfectly to save the
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environment you're perfectly fine
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fifteen-year-old honda civic that you
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could have repaired and driven for
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another 25 years you have now you've had
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crushed and recycled and you've bought a
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brand-new thing that will be shipped
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here in a coal-burning a supertanker did
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you get stops and paper towels and that
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as long as you're coming over there
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where you know like the whole bilge of
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the thing is full of black and pirates
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cranking on on big sweat wheels and it's
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like hello it's green this is green like
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it happens all the time in my
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neighborhood weather like this house
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that's a hundred and twenty years old
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that is built with completely perfect
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old-growth fur we're gonna rip this down
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and we're gonna we're gonna staple
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together this this rupee you know this
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thing made out of formaldehyde and like
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off-gassing particle board and we're
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gonna we're gonna post a sign out front
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that says green construction and people
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and we're gonna charge nine hundred
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thousand dollars apiece for these for
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these condos and that in it in people's
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imagination is some kind of net
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improvement because the new place has a
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more efficient air conditioning system
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and it's like the whatever kind of green
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that is super train is gonna eat that is
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going to eat that green is going to
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graze super train is going to turn all
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of those places back into their
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component superfine oil carbon-carbon /
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diamonds and then all the other base
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metals all the base metals and there's
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not gonna be any waste a little bit of
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Soylent Green my pic my head I people
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use every part of the population
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haha you know here's the thing in the
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Liberals that want to live in a tree
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house god bless you i think we have all
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of us all of us are these are
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intelligent people like us at one time
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or another have all been liberals
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liberals and if all wanted to live in a
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tree house
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I just would like three men out
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bookcases are you know absolutely i
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invent a real secret passage of all
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growth you know and and but but the
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thing is this interesting to me
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I'm not a historian but does strike me
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that a lot of these visions are really
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there about two blocks away from living
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on a collective in the Soviet Union and
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that is so not it's it's not a kibbutz
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it's not gonna keep trying that's some
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chuck norris talk right there
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you think so well am i doing that I
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don't know I'm just saying I mean the
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thing is what starts out as let's make
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potlucks together you know pretty soon
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you're out there you're working on a
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tractor with you like it all depends on
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who's in charge and that's the that's
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the problem simple right
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people are so excited to seed the
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responsibility for so many things to
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somebody else you know it's somebody
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else's problem somebody comes along with
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the train that's not the supertrain it's
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the one super train they go oh look i'm
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an engineer and I'm green they're gonna
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hook the fucking cars to that and just
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an end and close their eyes and think of
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England had beer and be led right down
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that that that primrose path
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whoo-hoo that you need to be able to
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identify super train from imposter
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trains have thoughts from the fall
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supertrain well and when I think I think
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we're developing were developing a
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mechanism by which people will know the
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real super train when you feel pain but
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you're grateful for it thats hanging
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super trains working here here you know
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speaking of which i was thinking about
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means of egress from your house
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yeah have you considered a zip line from
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here from your living room down to the
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rules say I have not and be my daughter
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my daughter loves ziplines i think i
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think i could sell a zip line from that
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from that from your top story down who
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to I mean the zipline could go
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conceivably all the way to the already
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seeing it I'm already seeing it i mean i
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don't feel too much right ever since we
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moved to san mateo we definitely don't
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live in san francisco where we keep
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talking about but you know I'm in the
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cisco you live in a house like ours you
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say live on the second floor you really
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have enough third floor right the first
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your way up there get the pancaking
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right because a during the earthquake it
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goes straight down together or garage on
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the bottom and
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I've been heavily gotta watch that so
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we're taking on the third floor lot of
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walking
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but here's the thing we also have the
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park we got telephone poles we got some
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you know red-tail Hawks in the park
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they'd like to sit on the telephone pole
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I'm just saying if I understand what
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you're saying week maybe we could
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disguise this as like like a comcast
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thing but there could be an innocuous
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looking cable not literally a rope even
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a cable that would attach in such a way
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that we could slide down on a zip line
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from the from the top floor the problem
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is that the city inspectors are going to
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see that eventually they're going to say
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what the hell is that what you need is a
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harpoon gun huh
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if you had a harpoon gun that was
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attached to some cable like this a big
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real of cable then if they see a harpoon
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gun coming out of our window they're not
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going to know what that is
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no nobody they're gonna think you're a
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collector they're gonna think it's some
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weird some weird San Francisco person oh
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he's got he's got he's got ladies shoes
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and chairs coming out of the side of his
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house when i wouldnÃt and a big harpoon
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gun in the top the top floor and you're
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like that's right i'm just a collector
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of nautical memorabilia and testing
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wailing that's right it's exactly put it
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wait a minute back after compression I
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think Mitch this as an active of
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resistance
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I may have a harpoon gun on close
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inspection but it appears to be a flag a
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Tibetan flag pole
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mm if i put it to better flag on a
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fucking harpoon outside my window
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you know what I'm gonna get I'm going to
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get the thanks of a nation under under
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dictators thumb every time that flag
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waves it sends a prayer to tell her
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freedom and then when you need it
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boom boom I I how is just my daughter on
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the safety of our poon usage she knows
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the hand signals and after i've read
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this manual i'm going to know how to
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like point of my eyes make a harpoon
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hold up three fingers and she was able
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to crouch in the living room
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both of you who needed when camouflage
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and you're like it's time to initiate
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harpoon sequence one but you're saying
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all this now with my hands it with my
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hands in my eyes and my can draw a
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little square on the carpet she fires
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the harpoon gun and then you zipline
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down the cable and who cares what
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happens if my family to freedom you
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no and and you know when you first start
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started talking about wanting to go to
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was a terrible way go in a broken car
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with your daughter
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I wasn't I wasn't totally on board
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because I don't know well I wasn't
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enough I wasn't done not on board but
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now i understand it now Mike my kids a
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I mean I I could really see I could see
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fucking shit up with her
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absolutely we might want to start some
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kind of superiority in the four of us
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i'm just saying it's like that scene at
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the end of terminator where she's
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getting gas at a she's getting gas it up
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at a gas station somewhere in the been
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like baja california and she sees the
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storm clouds on the horizon and some
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little kid takes up the a picture of her
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looking wistfully that becomes the it is
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the it's becomes the plot element for
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the whole series of films her but you
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know she's headed death she's escaping
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she's headed south
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oh and we we need to be prepared and the
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thing is you need to be prepared to do
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that in a motor vehicle that does not
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have a complicated computer-driven
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ignition system no no you're not gonna
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have computer tools on the road don't
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know you need a vintage Jeep over
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vintage Jeep with a with a really rough
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suspended with pay check out how to
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field-strip that absolutely thing is you
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and I are not going to be any use at all
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in terms of fixing this Jeep now maybe
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even we may be arthritic but will also
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be functioning at a higher level from a
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strategic standpoint of time to
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field-strip cheap exactly we're going to
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be we're going to be scanning the
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horizon who with binoculars but we have
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that we have the young ladies week we
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raise them not only speaking a variety
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of languages but also speaking the
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mechanical language of G prepare for who
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and we say you know keep this Jeep
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running gals keep these machine guns
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stripped and oil but we do this with
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hand signals in our face
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that's right now Cory McCarthy's the red
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and has ever been made into a film
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well I actually don't care because
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there's a new version of that it's gonna
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be based on the Bob Hope and mapping
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cross movies the road to Tierra del
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Fuego is a post-apocalyptic trip was
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singing and it's the four of us maybe
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Dorothy Lamour could be in it but I
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think it's you me and our daughters in a
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fucking Jeep making hand signals after
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the apocalypse right but you know Amy
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let's be honest there's it's not a
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question of if right it's a question of
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are you ready for when are you ready
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you're going to be searching my fourth
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safe room and I'm already going to be on
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the South America now one can win
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Canadian song writer and and songstress
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Kathleen Edwards was here in Seattle one
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of the first thing she said as we were
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driving around she said you know it
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seems it seems perfect here it's a it's
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a it's almost paradise what is the
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downside tell me the tell me the real
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story what's the downside and I said
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downside honestly volcanoes and
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earthquakes like you live in toronto you
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don't have any volcanoes and you don't
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have any earthquakes but here in the
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West the great you know the if if you'll
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forgive me the 800-pound hippopotamus in
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the room is that we're all living in the
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shadow of a of a very very active and in
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geological time like super young active
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volcanic range and we're right on the
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water where the earthquakes create
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tsunamis it's basically it is basically
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a volcano earthquake tsunami confess i
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think i think you put the fear in that
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gal and I know you put the fear me i
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have not given a thought forgive me for
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saying except for maybe making a plaster
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of Paris volcano when I was in college I
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I haven't thought about volcanoes since
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mount st. Helens I wasn't paying a huge
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amount of attention and then you
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describe something to me that I found
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chillin
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I and my penis see step in my body
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because you describe a volcano situation
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that i found completely chillin and
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implausible but the more you described
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it the more I realized that we might be
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getting there some kind of Cormac
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McCarthy situations you mind sharing
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with our listeners the the volcano in a
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mountain scenario so you're talking
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about you're talking about the you're
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talking about I'm talking about oh you
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didn't really know about the secret
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volcano that isn't really supposed to be
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there but with with the with the with
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the zit light bulb olas coming out
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because i'm fucking chillin all these
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mountains here in the West that run from
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Vancouver all the way down to Mount
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Shasta and beyond
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they're all they are all super duper
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active volcanoes there's no I mean right
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now they all appear to be fairly dormant
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but they're sitting as the as the
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Pacific plate
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seduces beneath the the American
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continental plates they go down there
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and it turns into lava right under those
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mountains and those mountains are just
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they're just boiling underneath and they
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seemed peaceful and birds are flying
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around them and they have lots of
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glaciers on them in their their national
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parks people ski on them but really
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without very much warning there will be
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some warning but without very much
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morning but that much extremely useful
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warning because you're not going to get
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a by the way you know 30 days from now
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some shit might go down
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what will you know one never knows they
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could be there could be lots of what I
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mean we're all overdue for the super
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earthquake and the super earthquake is
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not it is you know tied to all this
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volcanism and it is conceivable that the
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super earthquake will ignite a new round
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of volcanic activity in some of these
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massive mountains that are hovering just
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over the you know just outside of the
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city limits
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certainly here in Seattle Mount Rainier
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the largest mountain north america could
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could erupt and at which point those
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ten-thousand-year-old glaciers on its
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surface will will instantly liquefy into
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a superheated a hundred 200 foot tall
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like lahar of boiling mud and ash and
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can you describe something was a cross
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between is it and uh a portal from a
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scarred combined with the conflagration
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where there could be some kind of a
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herniated mountain that the UH that a
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volcano kind of finds its way out of and
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then explodes like a like a nail bomb
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what you're describing something where
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like it gets its own imaginatively slice
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the top of a mountain goat oh there's
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volcano in here we weren't ready for
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well yeah you're doing a good job of
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describing it there's a volcano in every
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single one of those my god jesus jones
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every single one
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what's it gonna cost for us to get a
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jeep should we get a couple of three
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chips and just kind of have them ready
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what we should be what we should be
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ready for is to commandeer a Jeep
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oh that's good yeah and this is you know
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this is the thing where I wear this is
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what Ted Bundy or Proteus would do you
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don't have the same vehicle you change
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your shirt you put shoe polish in your
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hair and there's still three jeeps
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behind right that's right that's exactly
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so so in that sense i mean knowing you
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at and and knowing me I think my skill
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set it was going to handle the
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commandeering of jeeps over and and you
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know I i I'm going to train my daughter
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to to have that same skill set so that
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the two of us can work in concert to be
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to be trading up trading jeeps we don't
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work in light-weight teams in pairs
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where we've learned the right hand
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signals and camouflage make-up to be
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able to you know if you like using our
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scopes we'd be able to communicate at a
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distance you could even have a
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staggering of cheats i think that's
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what's called a murder of crows we can
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have a staggering of jeep and decoy
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jeeps along the way so that we might
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have one you might jump in a hoopty that
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takes you somewhere we split up
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maybe for the sake of argument there or
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five or six other groups of people who
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look exactly like us no like the gang's
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reason the gangs where the white
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t-shirts and hoodies II know I think
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we'll be in a situation somewhere in
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Central America where we station you
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sitting looking at a map which may or
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may not have trap streets trap streets
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and you'll be sitting on a sitting on
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you know four or five crates of paper
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towels and toilet paper already smoking
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you could potentially you could be
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smoking a Cuban cigar let's say and a
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down the road comes a military convoy
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and they see you there in here and you
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get up kinda hopefully like waving your
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hands hello hello help I you know I have
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all this toilet paper and paper towels
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but no vehicle and the and they're going
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to be like load into a look
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Holden not into a false sense of
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security but they're going to be so
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mesmerized by all this toilet paper that
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they don't have access to a paper towel
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certainly not in two days in the jungle
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that is going to look like it like a
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crate of diamonds to these guns they're
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gonna be like we streets hit-the hit-the
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hit-the money here we have the
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cigarettes for rimming
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exactly it's like look at all that
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fucking toilet paper who and then while
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you are while you're holding up your map
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pointing at the trap Street going where
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is this place then I and my daughter
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haha 67 zip zip line we come in on a
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zipline throwing knives throwing
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throwing stars a chicken who and and
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then we have a then we have a new convoy
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of new convoy full of whatever it is
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that bad boy I think I think decoys I
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think decoys are powerful you know
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Howard Howard Hughes did a lot of this
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with decoys it in a lawsuit his own
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airline suit him TWA suit him and they
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couldn't serve the subpoena they could
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not get to him no matter what because he
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hired he's hired other guys with really
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long haul
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there were lots of instances where he
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did have like those decoy the decoy cars
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and stuff like that i think that works
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better than most people think also I
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must say if you have sealed yourself up
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in a room with Kleenex boxes and bottles
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for your own urine and you just simply
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refuse to open the door when your lawyer
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has been five years has never met you I
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think and Reggie you're moving in the
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right direction
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yeah you know what I mean even though
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let's be honest he is living underneath
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the paper cup with like 50 fucking
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drawings of locks exactly the same size
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on them like people in in my town now
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here in Seattle they do not know that
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they realize that I have a lot of
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different cars they're not sure what car
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might be driving in any game my Nana
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scooter and I and scooter mba and
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they're also aware that i changed the my
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hair and and facial hair configurations
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you know fairly regularly and i think
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what i'm trying to craft here in NC at
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least is the sense that any car could be
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being driven by me and then and so it
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might it might have it might have an
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Irish seen superstar in it it even if
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you really are discussed Ellis story
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someday but you could you're driving all
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kinds of things or you're not driving
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lots of things we don't know that could
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be John Robert for all we know that's
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right it could you see you pass a mini
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van full of nuns could be John Roderick
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driving and so you
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to you have to be that when a satellite
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gets in their car and start driving
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around the streets they have to be
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vigilant have to be aware that i could
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be in any vehicle at any time and they
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could be in my way I could be headed to
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a location somewhere where i have not
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really read the map and i'm on my way to
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you know to an important meeting that
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i'm already 15 minutes late but I'd but
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i purposely didn't actually figure out
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what the address was not your fault and
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I and they need to keep moving and get
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there's just there there's a there's a
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considerable portion of the population
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in Seattle that is beginning that is
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beginning to dawn on their there they're
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figuring this out is extremely thin end
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of a very fucking wide wedge right so
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right what you've done now is you have
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introduced you know what you're doing
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your mate you've got him thinking right
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people people don't like to think John
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as you don't just get in their cars turn
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on the radio and drive absent-mindedly
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to work anymore that's writing is John
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water can occur together they're going
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to put on glass houses start joking
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around they're gonna be thinking twice
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about whether John would even want me to
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be listening to glass houses and you
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know whatever you know the answer and
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some of them are starting when they
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leave the house they bring their
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infrared glasses who they bring a week's
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supply of of food they always have a
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they always have a bag packed a negress
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bag maybe a jar of slurry they're
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getting there getting into those cars
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prepared for any eventuality and that is
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ultimately super trans goal short-term
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goals short-term goal long-term goal
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short-term goal right yeah i mean
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certainly have hopes for the legacy but
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you're saying like anyone even like the
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late great Howard Hughes you're not
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going to you're not going to be there
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forever
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you're not going to be you're not gonna
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be in the desert in with literally
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audibly clacking toenails for people
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come up to me they come up to me at that
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shows they come up to me a public events
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and they say very confidentially you
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know they lead in and say how do i make
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sure that i'm on supertrain how do I
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mean how do i guarantee myself a berth
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on super train and my answer is usually
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you are already doing a good job
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is it this is the the cognate sensor or
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the being deferential being respectful
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what what is it that the has them a
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theoretical seat on a theoretical
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non-existent evil train all these things
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all these things and more if someone if
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someone Swagger's up to me and says haha
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ready for super train me my suspicion is
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or attempted to punch him in the nose a
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little like I give him a given that look
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which is a you're not ready for super
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thinking you are ready for super train
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is in is to be not ready for super cool
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oh you're saying like that that actually
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more than acceptance really seeking out
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a certain kind of imbalance and and
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distrust of oneself using that's the
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beginning of understanding what your
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place in super train will be yeah you
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don't you don't walk out of the house
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saying i have everything i need you walk
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out of the house saying what do I not
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have the holy Christ I have everything
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I'll that's right i hope to Christ I
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have everything I need that's the best
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you can do that is the best you can do
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that is going to be the worst propaganda
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puts that I've ever see it's going to be
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you are soliciting proudly on the prow
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of a giant menacing train and a child's
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thing I hope to Christ I have everything
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on the hope to Christ I brought
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everything I need is this enough toilet
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hmm slurry happy I don't forget a
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stopping point there was pretty fucking
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funny government coming up my game
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special ops you know we can't always
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give them we can't always give them a
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sometimes sometimes you just have to
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fuck that
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