Ep. 45: "The Conditions of Love"
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hello hi John
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Merlin how are you I'm fine young man
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John uh-huh
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and oh that sounds it sounded like a
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meditation thing I'm just sitting here
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meditating meditating on how create life
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is and how good I have it boy had a bad
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morning every every minute of a day is
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just a blessing
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I'm dressed already I'm not naked for
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this podcast that I've had coffee
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I just feel so blessed you know life
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life is a present that we give ourselves
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life as a president that we give
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ourselves who andrew johnson doesn't get
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the credit he deserves if you know what
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I mean I feel like you know my my my
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general feeling that the world is going
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to hell and that is largely a product of
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the fact that we have made it
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unfashionable to punch people in the
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it's it's just not accurate and what I
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really need to feel is that every day is
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a blessing that you know what that is
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really refreshing
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Wow nicely with the working Susan polish
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Schultz hmm so she polished Schultz's no
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no John she doesn't she writes a she I
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think she had quite a run in the
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seventies and eighties writing those
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greeting cards will like watercolors on
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the front
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oh I got all I am i received a great
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many of those you know my mom is someone
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who expresses herself through greeting
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parents so hard to believe so I it is
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it's very out of character but i have a
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greeting card from her not a greeting
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card but a birthday card from her for
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every year just using precisely greeting
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you not not greeting me except like
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greeting each new day with a with a
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with a an aphorism but you know they
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would he would be there so that there
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would be a card with a sunset on it and
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there were there would usually be some
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kind of onion paper in front of the
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paper of the card right so that at first
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you look at the card it's like kind of
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threw a gauze and then you put the onion
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paper and there's the sentiments written
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in cursive last night it also had to be
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protected from from a caustic world
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yeah or or uh that it is that it isn't
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an excerpt an apocryphal from the Bible
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some kind of middle portion of the Bible
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that but that got taken out like
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somebody with white cotton gloves to
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take it out of a hermetically seal tape
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out of each Bible each Bible which is
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the unary word of god and then there's
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this thing that says you're the best son
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Oh mom could ever want to have open it
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up inside and then it's also another
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thing that I psyche but no incited
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furthers that thought we have someone
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and then my mom would sign it can
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sometimes sometimes she would echo the
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sentiment by saying you're a good son
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how do you really believe that I think
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she did you know moms have moms have
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certain blinders where they think that
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they're there they're terrible child
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who's a force of pure destruction in the
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world is actually a nice boy
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I don't open an old wound but it's a lot
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like a pitbull problem maybe they may
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just be remembering the days that she
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didn't tear each other apart
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not that they do that but I understand
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she thanked me on my 30th birthday for
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for having survived i wanna see now
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that's really sweet but it was inside it
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was very emotional moment and it's like
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thanks thanks but well no she said you
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know from the time you were 15 until now
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I every time the phone rang at night I
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was sure that they were calling to say
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that you were dead
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oh my gosh that's a that's a real mixed
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kind of feeling huh
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so anyway now that you're 30 I can't
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believe it
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and congratulations and I'm really glad
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and i was like oh god I'm I'm I'm sorry
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that I made you feel up 15 years that's
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I guess you wouldn't say
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like passive-aggressive because it
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doesn't seem like your mom style but no
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no not at all no she was teaching
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sincere she's being sincere he was
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explaining to me a very various like not
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just sincere but like a massive truth
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that at that continues to settle on my
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shoulders which is that in order for her
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in order to survive herself she had to
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in newer herself against the possibility
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that I might die at any time
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oh god that psychologically that was a
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lot of work and a lot of heartbreak to
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to say I think what she said was I loved
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the years i had with you
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whoo-hoo so knowing that you were
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certain to die i had to be happy with
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the the great times that we had my gosh
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she's trying she's trying to make it
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through those years where I was when I
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was having all those high adventures
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that people think we're so I make me
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such an interesting person i would say
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that but you you're definitely a handful
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right your animal for a while
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in fact not a handful and a handful is
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what you say about about a puppy that
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pees on the rug
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I was a pistol i was known a pistol is
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what you say about a little old lady who
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wears red cowboy boots haha I what you
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quite a ballplayer
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it was a homicidal maniac
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uh-huh which is not which is not
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something that you that that's not
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something you would say about a puppy
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that's not something that you'd said I'm
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old lady unless of course she was a
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homicidal maniac
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well I is dominated by made it out
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well let me I'm so glad he isn't it is a
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blessing in it it's it's a present that
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you put on your own tree i'm going to
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read you something i don't know this is
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discovered by fairies but i'd like to
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read you one of the works of season
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polish also if you don't mind is this
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this is going to be some situation where
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we get accused of plagiarism and then we
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have to explain that now i am repeating
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it I'm achieving its actually lipstick
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on that picture and so it's now a new
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work you know what i think i might be
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seen her name wrong it shuts which is
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not the german for something ships is
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german force it
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Susan policy it
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essentially command to a doggy should
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should know shoot shoot shoot
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shush as in as in the shootin fest and
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yes it's a shoot shoot in China huh no
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wonder what is it I don't know sit
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actually sit in Germany's sits in a city
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like Darth Vader how do you say thats it
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then slices fifth is written as Seth is
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part of an international intergalactic
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space language and it's translated the
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same earth like you know I had a
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professor in college who after years
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later that's a good place to have a
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professor if you're going to have became
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one of the perhaps the pre eminent
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scholar of the Klingon language my
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esteem for your university education
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just went through the roof i took his
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mnemonics class
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ah here's the thing and it's very
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difficult to teach people things I think
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it's very difficult to teach people
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poetry or plasma it's very difficult to
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teach people things now that we can't
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use branding iron key thousand was a
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muted Bell I don't want to go two nights
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let me just finish this off button let
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me finish this let me Fake here's the
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thing is difficult you know sometimes
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you have to teach people something based
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on teaching them what it is not or
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should not be em and I you know and
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that's our that's some mighty jump girls
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what's safe touches
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ok so anyway you can review on safe to
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Richard you go
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it has a wonderful book on version of
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Richard Hugo know I know but in his book
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on versus actually what is it real West
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marginal way that's biography i forget
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the name of the bar talking about bird
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by bird are you there was one person i
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was i don't think was my professor I
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think he was quoting someone but for
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example this is a great piece of advice
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for anybody
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you're not eat you you should just avoid
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the word love and I think there's one
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I'm trying to remember exactly what the
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rules but it's something along the lines
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of you're not allowed to use love as a
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transitive verb for the first nine years
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your poem something like that you know
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what I've been saying that to every girl
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I've dated since 1986
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here to you know what you are your
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poetry teacher this is earlier this is
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some first this is a verse from Susan
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polished it's called i love you so much
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it's it's the kind of thing I've been
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trying to find a way to say to you I
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don't see someone i'm so glad you've
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made it to 40 something and I'm really
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I'm really glad like to read you a short
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bit of verse called love you so much
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they are you ready and really i'm going
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to draw you something I'm gonna paint
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you something in watercolors and centre
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st with tissue on it i love you are you
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are you going to pronounce the word love
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with a w instead of an l it's also very
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important to have what's called
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metaphysical distance which is you can
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be too matchy-matchy you can't be too
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close with things like the title right
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thank you and I have a lot of
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metaphysical distance working here right
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now I just this is always pressure he
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talks about is called love you so much
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since I met you I've been so happy
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except that i find myself worrying all
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the time
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Oh worrying that i might disappoint you
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worrying that relationship might and
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worrying that you might not be happy
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worrying that something might happen to
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I guess I've fallen in love with you and
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I guess I worry so much because I co
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care so much about it like God fan
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well fuck you i love you so much
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sit populace shit fucked up all my ever
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heard it surprise you to learn a lot
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early so much i watch you breathe while
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you're sleeping and I think maybe about
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smother you
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sometimes when I think about how much i
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love you I watched you sleep and you
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look like a baby when it would it
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surprise you to learn that she has a lot
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of these i would not surprise me at all
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that because if you don't mind I think
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this is covered by fair use if you don't
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mind I would like to read you a short
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piece of verse by susan polished it's
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called thoughts of you it would not
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surprise me to learn that she had that
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she had a lot of dead rubber dolls
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straight back to this is a time it's
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five and waiting for years i'm so glad
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you made it to something 40 and so I
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want to send this is my shoot Susan
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polished it's not me it's called
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thoughts of you in the morning when the
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sign it's just starting to like the day
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I'm awaken
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my first slots are you at night I stare
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at the dark trees silhouetted against
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the quiet stars i'm in trance into a
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complete peacefulness and my less so
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it's a review
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haha here's the thing if you imagine
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this being a 50 year old woman was
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drinking tea it's really super sweet
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especially if it's her husband is sick
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or something right
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this would be so sweet imagine this
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being a 32 year old man who's cleaning a
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gun for human thoughts of you don't even
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want a year old woman who is drinking
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yeah you know like they're there and
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really even a 50 woman who's drinking
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tea i don't i don't want anyone to think
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of me as their last thought of the day
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and then their first thought of the next
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day thanks to John I gotta tell you
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somebody i think that i think if you're
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62 if you're 14 that is completely
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understandable because you're still 11
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years from having the middle part of
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your brain finish forming right you
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remember how painful that was brutally
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painful and it's totally understandable
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and infuse the world just when you were
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14 if you wrote this when you were 32
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year-old lone gunman or more you wrote
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this when you're out buying a used white
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van and I'm just telling you this is
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this is not right but if you wrote that
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when you were a 26 year old girl like
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who is beautiful in the flower dress and
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writing a vintage bicycle with flowers
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in the basket who I would love to get a
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poem from that girl if you if you wrote
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that even as that girl there is still
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something wrong with you there's no time
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after you are about 14 years old that
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that amount of obsession about another
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ok let's let's let's stipulate this is a
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little bit like going after Rod McKuen
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we are we are shooting fish in a lovely
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flower barrel here well but and is also
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super creepy but also I'm I I recognize
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my I recognize that there are people who
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fall in love with one another and they
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call each other four times a day for the
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rest of their lives and they are happy
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and the rest of the world is just a
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backdrop to the play that they are
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writing for and about one another who
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but i cannot identify with that
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personally
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we think alike human clone and Jessica
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I doubt that they called each other four
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times a day
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no that's their jobs yeah I bet you that
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they high-fived on their way out the
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door in the morning
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yeah and then at night they SAT around
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and he played the piano and she told
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Reinbold stories and there were 45 you
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know a cary grant was there and they had
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like maybe like martinis or five friends
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they had martinis and then you know they
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went off to sleep in separate bedrooms
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because that's what people did then this
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is phrase you use and I want to get the
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exact quote screaming in your head the
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screaming in one's head there's a part
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of me that I don't want to sound cynical
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John as you know I never want to come
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off cynical as are you certainly don't
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thank you there's a part of me that
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thinks if you're calling anybody four
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times a day in my piece that's cute
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don't want to hear the screaming in your
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head that's exactly right hand and the
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and you know the devil dogs are nipping
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at your heels and who rather than keep
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running
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yeah for that 10 minutes you need to
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gossip but your breath
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how's your day how's it going over there
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oh good oh I'm just sitting here just
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thinking of you
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oh yeah i mean when i was when i felt
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that way about somebody I felt that way
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about Lori basler in 1980 that's a
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crushable name and I bought her a i went
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to the store valentine's day because we
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were required then even then we were
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required to buy Valentines for all of
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our classmates now you in retrospect
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that must drive you crazy
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oh it was it was awful there were some
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of my classmates who did not deserve a
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Valentine from and I did not want from
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them if they deserve anything it was not
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a Valentine it was it was another it's
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probably a strongly worded note from
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your mother with what they deserve for
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me was an empty space where Valentine
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would be but I a willful empty space
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that what this this is a deliberately
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black intentionally blank valentine this
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space intentionally blank i went to the
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store and I bought the one gross of
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cheap Valentine's for all my classmates
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that I was gonna sit and go like happy
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valentines day John happy valentines day
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John happy Americans John but i was so
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crazy about Larry Bosler that i spent
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what was at the time
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a large portion of my pile of quarters
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that I used to sit and pour over my head
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in my bed with the door closed I took a
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lot of the quarters that I keep in jars
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kept in jars and i bought Lori bachelor
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huge box of chocolates a giant red
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heart-shaped box of chocolates and I
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took it to school on valentine's day and
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everybody exchange their little paper
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Valentine's and I got a little paper
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Valentine from Laura Bassett said happy
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valentines day lori and i was ashamed
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and I did not give her the box of
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chocolates John and every day from
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februari 14th until the last day of
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school on jun 20th i open my locker and
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there was that big red box of chocolates
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and I looked at it and I said today's
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the day I'm going to give the box of
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chocolates to Lori basler and I never
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did and on the last day of school my dad
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came to help me clean out my locker and
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he said he opened the locker he was like
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looking at a big box of chocolates and
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he grabbed me 80 a problem soft oh my
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guys on it
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I'm very close to tears that's horrible
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did you get harder as you get a hard-on
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the eye and I want as a lorry lorry lor
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I did she touch Lori's the kind of game
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where you put a heart on the I l.a you
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rie oh my god that's a cute name Laurie
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basler did she tell him did you tell him
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what he was eating know i was i was
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covered in shame he was like why do you
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have this big box of chocolates here
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that's a great thing what I have a happy
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day they put it on the seat in the front
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we put it on the front seat of our
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chrysler newport imperial and you're
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we drove home from school with my with
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all my papers in a plastic bag in the
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backseat and he was sitting and eating
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all the good chocolates out of it and
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saying like how this summer's gonna be
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great you're gonna go to tennis camp
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john Dunn well that's a good fucking
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love poem right there
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well and then to make matters worse then
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she died of leukemia no way I'm afraid
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son you're in a TV movie afraid you and
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they will you are your fucking water
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you're fucking robby benson shit John
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that's the worst that's right champ wake
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up champ what's up champ
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Old Yeller gonna take him out back he
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sees foamy that's all I'm so sorry
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that's not funny
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well no it's not but I mean obviously
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know many years later but I never did
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ever ever tell lori basler how I felt
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about her and how I felt about her was
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that I woke up every morning and was
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thinking about and i went to bed every
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night was thinking about it's so weird
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it's thick and in retrospect then when
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it always said and done it's probably
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just as well that you did not give her
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Susan polish it's a poem called be my
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valentine which which which ends the
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city to read that like I have committed
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to memory so I think it's kind of like
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four areas
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yeah let's see if I remember it says
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assistance to the scanning lets you
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remember I ok so it ends like this have
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fun with me and whatever we do work with
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me towards common goals dance with me to
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the rhythm of our love
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walk with me throughout life let us hug
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each other at every step in our journey
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forever in love
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do you know how sad would have been if
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you gave that to her on some candy
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well dance with me to the rhythm of our
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love hey sounds suspiciously like a rod
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stewart lyric but followed by i was
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listening to read that last night and he
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has American in his song where he says
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spread your wings and take me in em and
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I think he's talking about vaginal wings
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vaginal wings
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I think he's talking about labia
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bobbya1984 me to the rhythm of our love
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when you say it it sounds good
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you know that's a thing that i might say
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to a stand-up bass that's something I
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might as I'm as I wrapping my arms
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around a large states guitar bass milan
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knew who I might say dance with me to
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the river
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love can i don't wanna I don't make it
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too weird but when you think of when you
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think of the rhythm of your love I mean
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is there anything that isn't potentially
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is another thing I learned in poetry
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classes you know to be careful about
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saying something that could be
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interpreted more than one way because
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you don't know wrong wrong wrong and
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saying everything in a poem wants to be
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interpreted multiple ways yes but it has
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to have kind of concrete image there has
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to be there has to be something concrete
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about it and if it's open to
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interpretation i think that's ok but you
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don't want to write a bunch of holes
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like a whole thing of ellipses you know
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what I mean yeah right and i think
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that's it so is she talking about
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fucking yeah she's gonna be clear them
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of our level the hell is that I don't
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think I my boy is now your heart going
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from putting my heart going something I
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don't beat the sense that i don't like
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beets in the ground John but like once
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again what if you got that on a card
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from the 32 year old guy I know
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dance with me to the rules like what if
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what if what if you Travis Travis Bickle
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type situation and you taking time off
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from the campaign and you've gone out on
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a date to get to a dirty dirty movie
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theater and then you give you a poem
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like that
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mmm well it's just like the scene in the
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graduate why did he take her to that
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strip bar holy she's learned his hands
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little bit of his love
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holy shit you remember Travis Bickle
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love greeting cards to remember that who
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you know one time I was sitting in the
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bath in a house that I lived in with
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some people who had lots of piercings
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and those giant ear plugs that they make
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out of sink stoppers who this is a long
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time ago when that was still very
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transgressive and I was sitting in the
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city in the bathtub and somebody was
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doing a little laundry and the washing
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machine was one at the bottom of the the
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bottom it in the other room i could hear
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through the floor sitting in the
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bathroom and I i might have been i might
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have been very stoned but so the bath i
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was going to them with them with them
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thump and Men overhead there's a there's
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a jet airplane and the jet airplane is
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because it because the jet engine noises
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is a cord right there's there's multiple
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sounds it makes it makes record the jets
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flying over and all of a sudden the cord
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of the the jet is making syncs up with
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the thumb of them the top of the washing
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machine and it makes this fantastic
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music and i'm writing between them not
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right in between them i'm closer to the
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to the washing machine that i am to the
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jet but i am the only I'm the only
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organism the only thing in the world
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except for maybe a termite that
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perceives this this this moment of of
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like natural music being made and I'm
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lying there in the bathtub and I'm like
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I am the i am the meat of this sandwich
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i am the i am the the receptor I'm yet
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you're like the only one there to hear
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a tree fell in the forest and I was the
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only one there boom and and I felt like
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in a sense that was dancing with the
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rhythm of the world's love boo because
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that's happening right now to somebody
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you know what I mean somewhere in the
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world right now in Indonesia there's a
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guy sitting in a room and and and it's
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like it's like in the movie delicatessen
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there's somebody but the fucking on a
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bed next door and somebody else is
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sharpening a knife over here and he
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hears the song here's the music it'll
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come no one else hears the music that's
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what we're talking about
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she's usually so much better at this
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john i don't know i don't know what you
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get for money these days but I think
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maybe it's not a greeting card but I
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think you should definitely have some
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anonymous notes to people you have a lot
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of shots and best understands this music
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in a way that that the rest of us can
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only do you think she might be hearing a
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jet that isn't even flying over our
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heads right now it's a cracked i'm
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guessing listening to a little bit of
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the pros that you've decided that she is
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operating at a level of acuity she's in
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tune and she's gonna tune right in on
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mm no I'm saying I do i do the car
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overheated I called up and pleaded
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there's help on the way I called you
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collect you didn't accept you had
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nothing to say some guys have all the
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yeah some guys on the brakes all the
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breaks yeah
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then where the gold hat if that moves
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sir if you can bounce high bounce for
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her to tell she cries lover will have it
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by bouncing lover i must have units
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late-september and I really should be
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back at school I think that I shall
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never see a poem lovely as a tree that
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are like the morning sun really shows
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your age doesn't have the morning sun
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when it's in your face really shows your
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that's not where I mean honey in my mind
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and in my eyes you're everything
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yeah that's sweet that would be really
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sweet to say somebody you look cold in
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the morning you know what you key in
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this in the sixties and early seventies
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I think you could still say that to your
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mrs. Robinson food your mrs. Robinson
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it's like talking about the Holocaust
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you get out of the way well you know but
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back then like a woman in her forties
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felt like she was in her forties you
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know what I mean like the morning sun
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when it's in your face it really shows
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your age and she's like I know I'm just
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let somebody sees my face in the morning
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but that don't matter that don't bother
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me now don't worry nice nowhere in my
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eyes you're everything and you know
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that's a turnaround whereas now a woman
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in her forties in my experience at least
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refuses to admit she's in her forties
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for the most part and if you make any
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comment about her face in the morning
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sun she's way ahead of you
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you know what I mean like all your face
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in the morning and she's like stop right
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there that's another conversation you
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just can't have
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that's right and you know what i was
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going to say that in my eyes you're
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everything that she's like no no no
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that's not what you're going to say shut
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up two dozen got this is this is another
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one of those things where there's words
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there's bad words right it's off the
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that's right badly and yes a your face
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basically you don't see your face and
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Morning Sun to a woman who's older than
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yeah it sounds like a plan or one-on-one
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and get some Sun in your face
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yeah you just don't say you don't see
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your face in the Sun because the all it
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sounds like she's got like a damaged
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damaged skin right or you know like I
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can see you know she does
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want to hear i can see every cigarette
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you ever smoked God don't talk to mikey
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has found it time
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don't talk to me first thing in the
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morning is what you know I wake up and I
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say bring the first thought I had this
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morning was you your face in the morning
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sun and and i found a dime
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it is a crack made by all the cigarettes
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you smoke
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yeah I I'm sorry to seem obsessed with
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this is just like I could keep turning
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this over in my head I keep turning it
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over turning it over and and I i just-i
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can't-- really land on anywhere where
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I'm super comfortable about it
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yeah but this is not remember this jon
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is she had a whole section to shoot the
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chutes and choices poems she had her own
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section
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how would I remember that you even go to
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greeting cards course as a kid I went to
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greeting card stores being pulled by a
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team of horses and I and I managed to
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stop myself at the front door
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no I didn't go to greeting card stores i
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wouldn't go i did I never I never looked
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at a single self-help book my entire
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life there were whole sections of the
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bookstore that I stayed away from you
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just over military history not just
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military history but all kinds of
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history but also know all the exciting
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there are so many exciting parts of of a
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bookstore why would you go
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yeah to a section where people were
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trying to tell you that they were
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thinking about you you will we will
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never want to learn how to make
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intercourse never go over the inner core
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section I was very embarrassed to read
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about how to have sex you wouldn't just
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take it and carry it over to the tsr
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book section and we know that the
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dungeon master Scott I felt like a lot
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of things and this is part of the
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problem of being a romantic being born
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romantic is that I felt and then and
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this is a problem in the arts to where
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you feel like if you're going to be good
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at something you should just discover it
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true you should not you should not
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pollute your experience by by learning
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about something before you're actually
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trying to do it you know what I mean
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like to go read about how to have sex
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after you've tried to have sex a few
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times that makes sense to me like me
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ok I've done this now a few times and I
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want to
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figure out what doctors don't subscribe
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to that
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well no but you know every doctor then I
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know knew when they were 14 years old
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that they wanted to be a doctor
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that's because they're psychotic well
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exactly now when I was for a terrible HD
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decide you want to help people
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I didn't even know what I wanted to do
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is that afternoon and all of my friends
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that ended up being doctors were already
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like I'm gonna be a doctor but you guys
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are attending classes you got take
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biology you know I know and that
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terrifies me every time I go see a
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I look at them and I realized you've
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been doing this since you were 14 you
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have no other experience of the world
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famous you are terrifying me now a few
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things are going to hire a really good
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soldier of fortune
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you know you're gonna go and you're
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gonna hire that you know that if that
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person is really good at their job
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they've seen this seen some shit they've
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been in the shipmates and decisions that
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they definitely the shit they made some
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decisions early on about where they're
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going to focus their attention
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yeah just down that the sites of our
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rifle probably when I was a when I was a
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young man I spent a lot of time in
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hospitals being treated by student
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doctors because I didn't have them
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I didn't have any insurance as a hobby
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no I didn't want me to get treated by a
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regular doctor and so I would go to the
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i would go to the university hospital
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and they would say yeah sure we'll take
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a look at your problem but there's going
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to be nine of us and every every one of
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the students whose whose incidentally
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your age there are each one of them is
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going to take a take a turn poking your
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liver and that's how you
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that's how you get free medical care you
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shouldn't have John if I could say if i
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visit the time I think they should have
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anybody poking liver nine times in a day
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well so I'm lying on a gurney and it may
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file and their the medical students and
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each one of them takes it takes a turn
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poking at me with the you-know-what
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there for cept and and I would sit there
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you know and and try and make light of
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the situation haha hey here we all are
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only one of us is covered in blood
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though and and then I would then they
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would you know give me some not
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effective treatment and and I would limp
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out of there but I saw a lot of young
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doctors a lot of student doctors in that
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time with their put their wide do we
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and they're there you know that their
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sense that they were going to one day
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have a jet ski that's in their faces you
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know what I mean you look at her like
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they're like they're thinking porsche
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you know you're thinking so much about
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personalized license plate your
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residence your kind of hours they work
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on purpose if they did it's like it is
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it's like being with earlier me they
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deliberately it's part of the the the
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hazing that affects all of our
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healthcare that they have to work
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ridiculous numbers of hours
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yeah to weed out the weak to weed out
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the ones that don't deserve a portion
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with a personalized license plate to eat
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yet says dr. feelgood to weed out the
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ones who would take take one step back
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and go this is not good for people this
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yummy that portion or to you to weed out
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the ones that are like is there is there
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something else I should be doing like
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like like swimming in the Mediterranean
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right now or I don't know maybe maybe
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like this guy lying on the gurney maybe
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I should be drinking myself insensible
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every night getting in fistfights but no
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instead I'm you know I'm reading about
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the anterior cruciate ligament dreaming
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all makes sense to me
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imagine the guy who did the first time
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John surgery can imagine how much that
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guy made who did the first Tommy is the
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ACL isn't the first thing is that you
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talk about the is the yeah remember
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Tommy John the picture he was the first
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buddy everything they started calling
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Tommy John surgery because it's
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something everybody all baseball players
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start started getting didn't read Batman
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comics when I was a kid not wasting no
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time at all
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now you know I didn't regard didn't i
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didn't like them you know Tommy John's
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baseball player though I yeah
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yes i agree he's not the one that took
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acid and pitched a perfect game
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no no I think it's right Stuart not a
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place i right
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I i have heard a guy that I've heard
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about this the guy was tripping balls
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and nobody got on base
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yeah tripping balls that bikini for his
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memoir ok
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oh my god that would be a great neighbor
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is memoir tripping balls
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you should be writing people anonymous
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letters about improvement opportunities
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and I should be coming up with the name
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of sports memoirs
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now let me as an aside Berlin yes I'm
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hearing a lot of digital artifacts
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ok do just exactly like Dropbox on I
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know I say that probably like you ask me
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that everytime and I don't but I'm gonna
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total robot by voice from you too and
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I'm having no packet loss from mine its
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I'm noticing now that i did not plug my
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dsl and we are doing this
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realest wireless all right why don't you
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let's do this
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but what if you get a sec could you go
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ahead and dsl yeah and Allah and the
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port in what does that mean
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pour it in and fucking a fucking thing i
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restart ok alright let me give me two
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minutes
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ok Tommy John alright but so much better
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is it better i think it's better to
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leave all the same I think we should
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blowing through the professionalism and
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there's so much i cut out every week
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John I don't know if you ever listen to
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the show but I cut out we record
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generally let's be honest we record for
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six to 11 hours and argue about religion
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for four hours and then I i cut out a
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down to the best 90 minutes every time
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but you leave in everything is all the
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stuff I've been saying about Charlemagne
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and Napoleon right
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oh gosh you have that whole
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three-episode arc just--just--just about
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Charlemagne who good who life that
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somebody heard that is he French is that
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uh well Charlemagne was a was a was a
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frank he was a German really let's let's
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be honest he is better
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who but that was before he was always so
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clear cut though right yeah there were
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those before there was a really like
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clear division his is a his favorite to
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town the headquarters of his empire was
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rockin which is now in Germany but it
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was you know it was right on the border
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it's the westernmost town in Germany
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rockin food i'm glad i left all that
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includes yeah that's good stuff to
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follow up yeah
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Charlemagne and stuff i think it's
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important that people realize
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Merlin that you and I are human beings
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were not just two guys with a
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encyclopedic knowledge of everything
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with all of you but we should we are
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certainly not just that to be just that
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we are sometimes guys who forget to plug
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in their their dsl cables we are guys
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can't lay their hands on their on their
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bail oh wait wait I got my belt areas i
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was so impressed that as so many people
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knew that my bell was from an old Parker
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Brothers called pit pit I I had not seen
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that game since i since i took the
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bailout of it
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John I will be completely honest with
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you I do promise you that I will laugh
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and cry with you I didn't promise you
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that I will help you achieve all you
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know holes but most of all I do promise
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you that I love you
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that's from a poem called i love you
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that's that's a hell of a promise mi
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promise you that i love you i think
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that's covered by fair use i just read
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the last few lines you know what it's
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she doesn't say I promise you that I
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will love you she promises you that she
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loves you sooo scary is that something
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you really want assurance on you really
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want someone that feels like they was in
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the Godfather you know we have we have
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we really need to assure each other like
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lawyers like it did you know i mean the
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thing is people have this idea that
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unconditional love is the standard below
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which they will not accept any other
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kind of love and they end and somehow
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this idea that that any of us deserve to
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be loved unconditionally or that such a
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thing is even possible has become a
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thing that we tell each other and tell
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ourselves over back and forth until it
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seems normal until it seems normal until
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there are people of my own personal
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acquaintance who I know to be unlovable
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sacks of shit who believe that they
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deserve
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not just love not just not just the love
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of like their mother but unconditional
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love from a partner and i look at my go
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you can you are unlovable you're a
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disgusting person how do you feel like
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you deserve unconditional so if I
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understand what you're saying that
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you're saying that really for their own
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for practical purposes they should at
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least be open to conditions
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here's what I'm saying that all of us
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can only love conditionally and only
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warrant being loved conditionally
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ourselves that's a contract law we
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should we should come up with what you
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can fucking put up with
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that's right when you say to a kid who
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I love you but go clean up your room
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what you're saying is i love you but if
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you don't clean up your room i will stop
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loving you
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mm what's everybody understand that's a
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condition yeah i understand that that's
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a temporary that's a temporary love
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stoppage like until your room is clean
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like hangin with do like I like a lot of
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slow down that's right that's a lot of
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slow down
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it's like the guard that the love is
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going to pile up on the sidewalk was who
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is gonna start smell bad in the Sun Oh
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until you get the room clean and in our
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relationships with one another
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you see this happen all the time like oh
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yeah i mean i love you i love you i love
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you but you really screwed me out you
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really screwed the pooch last night on
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the whole like washing the dishes after
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dinner thing so I'm gonna be kind of
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pouty and respond monosyllabic Lee for
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an hour or two that's all conditional
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love conditions conditions conditions i
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I'll your feelings for Lori did you did
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you have conditions in mind when you
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when you didn't give her chocolates the
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general they put it this way if you had
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a chance to talk to her and she and she
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had given you anything more than let's
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be honest completely perfunctory fucking
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Valentine if you had a meeting of the
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minds with her as judge Wapner would say
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how what kind of contract would you both
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accept an offer to a lorry god rest her
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well here's the thing glory by all
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appearances had a crush on Brian nominee
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fucking Brian nominee and Brian mamunur
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first of all he was a horrible name he
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was a little teeny elf-like boy who was
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like the same size as the girls and he
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was pretty like the girls like
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non-threatening he had blonde feathered
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hair and it's not that he was
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particularly swab he was just he was
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like nick rhodes you know what I mean
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like he was he was a he was pretty
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I didn't even dislike him I like Brian
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and he was completely inoffensive but
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why Lori basler should love Brian
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nominee or not even love it but just
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like she gets she gave him a lot of
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attention
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did you did you think she was aware of
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your other of your feelings I mean she
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never got you never got the heart she
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had to have been aware of them but then
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that is a mistake I've made my whole
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life assuming that they know the
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Commission
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assuming that the the person knows how I
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even though all my outward actions are
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to look away when they are there and I
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mean if we had inkwells I would have
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dipped her pigtails and me
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well she's no Howard oh my god that's
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such a great way to show that you love
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somebody she had blonde hair and she had
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a Dorothy Hamill haircut because that
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was the fashion at the time because of
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Dorothy Hamill because what you're
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awfully young so you're like eight eight
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or nine
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yeah eight to ten to twelve I mean was
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she was my first she was my first and
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really awful really the last time I ever
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felt that way about last time I let
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myself ever feel that way about somebody
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because who can take the heart
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heartbreak did I want to be 24 years old
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and have my dad eating that box of
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chocolates that self-same box of
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chocolates if I need that shit yeah did
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I want my dad like opening up the box
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with the engagement ring in it being
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like well this was free i don't know
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that i can't get away from the idea of
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the conditions but you hear that phrase
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so much you know it's one of those
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things on my additional people your
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people say things like incipient but you
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never heard them say sippy and like you
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he run your unconditional love you've
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never hear people talk about the obvious
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fucking elephant in the room which is
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what should be the conditions of love
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now that would you love that would be
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the conditions of love will be a
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potential riffic season polish its
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investment but one condition that most
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people put wasn't what I say when I say
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the conditions of love the conditions of
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life is good
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wasn't that a peter gabriel is it comes
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to Christmas tree McCarver stuff up but
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it looked a lot like this that people
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put on love is that the other person
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must love them unconditionally first you
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don't mean that's the number that's the
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number 1 i'm hanging with a pencil
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because I so agree with you you're
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absolutely fucking right
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yeah i'm gonna love my 19 that's not
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cool ah that's good there's the first
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you know what it is it's like asking the
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genie for more wishes you go in and you
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say here's here's the condition is you
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have you know tradition by persons I
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want five more wishes
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fuck you shut up it's all over for your
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own our ok but here's the thing John
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John you are scientists you're a
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rationalist your Hobbesian
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your man who's not afraid to argue with
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john vanderslice about the price of a
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trailer that was not going to be bought
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I'm still arguing with him harrowing
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harrowing moment my life I've seen you
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I've seen you argue with people about
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things that did not need to be argued
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about until I realized after hearing you
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argue about it
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it sure as shit needed to be argued
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about so here's what I'm saying to you
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your man is not have a John are you
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manage afraid to discussion can discuss
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condition
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absolutely not we should establish what
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the conditions are that's primary
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directive this is not what I signed up
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for these nacho chips in this
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fourteen-year-old girl in in my dressing
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room is not anything that's going to put
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gas in my fan correct
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exactly exactly don't try and pay me
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with dasani water i want american
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dollars that's talking raccoon aqua my
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friend you got so here's the thing you
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have it seems to me you have not only
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have no compunction you have the
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opposite compunction you have in
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compunction about going to people and
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fucking throwing down some conditions
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right you are you listening to me
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here's here's the first thing I say is
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what are your conditions all make them
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make them come over the price first yeah
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I'm not I'm not the guy was like here
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are my conditions
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that's not part of the problem with the
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manslayer trailer got to cut this whole
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thing out
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was it that was something you had not
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even completely negotiated the part you
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had negotiated have been renamed upon
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via third party that you had no of
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litigious control over cracked right
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I've never law school but it seems to me
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that that was the problem was that there
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was no there's a loophole in the
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condition try to hold it the whole
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business of like agreeing with somebody
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over the telephone about how something
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is going to go and then when you see
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them next they're like why did agree to
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that that is a real boy that's that
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that's gotta really sticking your legal
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cross it gets me going it really does
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how do you have any idea how to open the
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post negotiation settlement on something
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like that you point out you point out
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that you said something different on the
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phone you put you push fucking reality
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into their face you have to do it once
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who make it smell it you did this you
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did this they say if they say like I
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have no recollection then then it's just
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like well I mean then you have to have
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to retreat back to what what's at stake
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here like am I am i prepared to take
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this thing in this instance in this
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hypothetical instance this large van
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trailer hypothetical trailer that was
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just like WTF Emma and my primary market
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drive this trailer back to Washington
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from California
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who just on principle just on principle
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and my prepared to take this trailer
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back to Washington so many people would
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say now the answer is yes absolutely yes
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on principle i will take this trailer
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away from you I will burn this trailer
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in the desert rather than give it to you
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for one sending less than we agreed to
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on the phone right and expects it
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existentially user asst for you to be
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put in that situation you don't know
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you're the asshole i don't think so you
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don't do that you don't do the thing we
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were like oh yeah we'll figure that out
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when you get down here and then be like
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oh I thought we had it all figured out
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which was that you were going to take it
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in the shorts there's something just to
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think about I mean if you if you I don't
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actually read to the end of contracts a
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lot of the time but it seems to get it
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that the contract is where you both
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agree that something is going to happen
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by a certain date and and perhaps
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importantly what you know what the terms
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that are with it i think very
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importantly what happens if the
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conditions of this are not met
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it seems to me that that's part of the
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clarity of a contract right well and
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this is the problem because there was a
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time until very recently
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we're in a situation like that you could
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avail yourself of the option of punching
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them in the middle but we have convinced
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ourselves that civilization you require
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the legal that's a motive legal recourse
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up until recently it certainly why I
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think President Andrew Jackson punched a
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lot of guys in the next Magna Carta they
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said you're either your signature your
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brains are going on that thing John
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that's right and Charlamagne would take
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them out to the river and he would say
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convert to Christianity or try and
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breathe underwater
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is that right and that's that's how we
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know that you were true believer are bad
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it's like a dog ducking stool well or
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just like either either you're either
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we're going to have a Christian world or
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we're going to have a lot of dead people
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in this river harder easy
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that's right hardware the easy way so so
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it was not very it was until very
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recently that we we could still say like
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a punch in the nose is on the table here
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as one of a potential list of rewards
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and consequences as part of this
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negotiation it's implicit it's one of
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those things like don't show up naked
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like it's one of those things where I
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shouldn't have to tell you this
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yeah that's right in the night
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hold i will hold as a motive recourse
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fucking punching you in the face and I
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don't even need to say that right but we
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have decided as a culture as a
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civilization that punching people in the
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nose is barbaric and that when that we
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know it is no longer an option yet the
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behavior that would warrant a punch in
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the nose
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we have not evolved beyond it whoo right
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there are certain behaviors that people
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still exhibit all the time asshole
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isness douche itude these are behaviors
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that there's really no recourse except a
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punch in the nose like that that's the
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only that's the only appropriate
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response but we've taken the punch of
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punch in the nose off the table so you
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get these situations where someone is
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being a douche
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you can't punch them in the nose because
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that's uncivilized and so you are at an
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impure and an impasse you there you
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can't respond to a douche in any other
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you can't argue with them you can't
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convince them you can't there's you
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don't eat there's nothing you can hold
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over their head so they're just they're
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just dancing in a field of flowers just
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do shit up and they know there are no
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consequences because if they left punch
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in the nose has been taken off the table
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if you even make a fist who you have
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become part you become part of the salt
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that counts of assault that's right the
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the threat of a punch in the nose is now
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considered a lot of people don't
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understand that the difference in
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assault and battery and here's the thing
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i'm like anybody I don't want to get
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punched in the nose
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no I agree that punching people in the
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nose is barbaric
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I've been punched in the nose unlike a
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lot of my contemporaries I have good
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reason to not want to be punched in the
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nose and let me tell you the fear of the
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threat of being punched in the nose
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actually it actually changed my behavior
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at a certain point I was getting punched
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in the nose with surprising regularity
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and I wanted it to stop and I just
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saying started holding up your side of
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the bargain because she was on the table
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well this kit this gives it either this
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is a bass conspiracy or I'm getting
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punched in the nose because of something
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i'm doing and then I started to say
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maybe I should stop being such a flaming
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asshole the people who are bigger than
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me or have violent eyes
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and I and I and I became a more i became
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a more moderated person and and
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unfortunately I do not like to be the
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one who delivers punches in the nose
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either but there are those certain
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situations in in life when someone at
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the supermarket does not keep moving
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does not get out of the way when you ask
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them to either keep moving or get out of
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the way preferably both
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because let's keep moving and get out of
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the way that's what able to you and they
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give you some horseshit entitlement
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lecture about your shopping like you're
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stepping on their obscure religion
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yeah and you look at him and you go the
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threat of a punch in the nose is the
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only that is the only thing i have here
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now that's the only it's the only the
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situation warrants at first of all but
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also it's my only recourse and yet if i
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this person is going to literally call
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the police and then i'm going to be the
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guy you said you guys were you lose your
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place in line to you know you lose your
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place in you lose your place in the big
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line which is the line up to the head of
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the class where people where people
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start listening to your podcast you know
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what I mean like you don't you lose your
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lot you you lose primogenitor boom you
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don't splashed across the headlines
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john-john Roderick punches only in the
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face because of the conditions John I i
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have i've had situation like this like a
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few haters are greatly where I was at a
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an event and I and some guide some drunk
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guy was shouting in my face and it was a
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hectic situation a lot of people there
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was kind of a brawl a lot of people were
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falling down other people were in
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trouble people shouting my name like
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come help me and this is in my face and
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shouting in my face and it's getting
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spit on
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yes I told him a couple of times like
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you need to please like step away from
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me please back up please do not shut in
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my face and he's drunk right so he's not
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so any believes that that excuses him or
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at least you know that he believes that
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he is funnier than he is
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he believes he's smarter than he is and
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he's quicker with it and that he's as
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faster reflexes than he does he's right
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there in my face and he said something
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about how they're gonna be consequences
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he's talking about a friend of mine
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that's across the room it's calling my
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name is in between me and this guy there
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are gonna be consequences blah blah and
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I said well I don't even remember how it
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happened but I was like there are gonna
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be consequences
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Wow and I I punched him right in the
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nose and unfortunately it was it was a
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well landed punch in the nose and he
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began to bleed all over the place and i
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have to say that it did not let me
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punching this guy in the notes did not
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deescalate the situation world worldwide
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like in the room in the spilling out
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onto the sidewalk
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now it was a free-for-all and he was
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screaming in the aid car came with the 8
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car under the ambulance
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oh I thought everyone is yellow light
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things but it's not quite the police
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no no community community pretty service
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people that bed pulled bums out of
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dumpsters just sounds like about I think
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work there for him they were there for
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some other person who have gotten hurt
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in in some other aspect of this brawl
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but here i was i punch this time in
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those I felt like such a a ding-dong
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and then he then it after you mean he
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certainly retreated but then when he was
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surrounded by people who are like
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petting his hair and telling them is
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going to be ok he got bold again and
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then with blood on his shirt
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he stands up and confronts me again
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screaming and now now these getting
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blood on me and I punched him in the
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nose again
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oh and I'm know I'm really not proud of
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it but the but the problem was that the
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following day he took it to Facebook
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this is as recently as Facebook yeah
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this is just this very recently i'm not
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proud of the story but he took it to
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Facebook and was accusing me and it
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turns out turns out who he was gay
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oh so you use a hate crime so hate crime
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and he turned it into a thing where I
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I had gay bashed him i'll come on buddy
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was kids like crazy drunk guy in his
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friends were not like grabbing him and
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pulling him away his friends were all
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drunk too and they were just they were
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it was one of those things where they
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had they were living in a world where
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they believed they were postponed chin
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the nose her right and so you can get up
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in somebody's face in a bar drinking
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getting us than the one sober guy in the
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bars face drunken spittle on him
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screaming at him about about bullshit
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and telling them that they're going to
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be consequences and all this stuff and
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you believe you're living in a post
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punch in the nose reality and and then
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you get punched in the nose and you
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realize you are not in a post punch in
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the nose reality that maybe it must be
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if i may say rather sobering it was well
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but then when when when he sobered up
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and when he won't he weighed this
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situation he again believed he was
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living in a punch post in the Pope but
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post punch in the nose reality because
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he began to threaten legal action he
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began to call it a hate crime he did all
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these things all these kind of like
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shaming tactics and the end this and and
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and operating it operating on the
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assumption that a punch in the nose
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above all else like to resort to
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physical violence in a scenario where
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you are being let us say emotionally
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balanced gaya tacitly like threatening
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violence against you
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he's talking about consequences and
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stuff that's in that that's the thing
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when you were people who are living in a
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post punch in the nose world they they
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can they believe they can get up in your
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face and talk about that they're going
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to be consequences and be physically
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threatening but that they that the but
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sets a punch in the nose is impossible
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then they aren't actually being
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physically threatening they don't they
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they don't perceive themselves as
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threatening violence even though
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everything they're doing is suggesting
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that but what do you think it's like to
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pro wrestlers on the phone
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yeah like that's gonna happen they think
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it is a giant costume drama or they
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think that it'sit's something that
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they've seen it on television where
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people get up in each others face
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and that that is that that happens in a
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vacuum and then it isn't like it isn't a
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hundred thousand year old tradition of
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escalating a situation until somebody
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punched someone else in the note and its
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really at I like I confess to being a
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little bit prehistoric in this regard
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that there are some situations where
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particularly if you're standing on my
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shoes and spitting in my face
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it does not matter what your sexual
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orientation is and nothing could be more
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paternalistic or more i don't want to
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say homophobic but nothing could be more
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paternalistic than going
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you are such a flaming asshole who is
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threatening me with violence and now i'm
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going to sit here and parts your
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sexuality I don't think that's how it
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works well I'm not about that that's
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that was the least of my concerns that
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the because he was also a university
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person and he was told he was you know
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threatening all the different levels of
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which this wasn't this was bottled
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university person by which i mean he was
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a graduate student so dear me so he had
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all of the language so he could write a
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three day at dissertation about you he
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could he could write a very good
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gracious your leaders from the word
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thesis very long series of facebook post
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but of course what he didn't know is
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that i'm also that i'm also an amateur
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lawyer so I know haha i knew that he
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didn't know what he was talking about
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and I just I just blocked it Collin
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County I'm blocking your counselor was
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like tell you what go ahead
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yeah and it get all your friends all
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real upset about it but what of the
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whole point of this was that I became
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conscious at that point of being a
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public figure and all the sex was not
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that I was a guy in a bar who had
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punched an asshole in the nose but it
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was that I was a person whose whose name
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was recognizable and who was a
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recognizable character and so this guy
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had you know it's the it's the ice build
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McDonald's coffee in my lap and I'm
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suing them for a billion dollars for her
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his reaction was not go measure it with
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with the with the incident you know that
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coffee actually was too hot i know it
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the coffee's too hot tubs too hot I
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can't flew all the way down here
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yeah we got about put all this liquor
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just for you that we got one piece that
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we got the small chair just for you and
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never happy about money and doing some
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money it's too hot but I still watch
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that once a month but the bed but but he
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then was you know he was blowing his
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injury out of proportion i mean really
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he posted a picture of himself he didn't
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look terrible
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haha oh yeah black guys but I mean I
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know that there are people who are
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listening to this who are saying to
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themselves
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I don't want to be punched in the nose
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nobody wants to be punched in there
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that's why that's why is there don't
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think punching someone in the nose an
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appropriate reaction but i don't think
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it is i don't think it should be on the
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list of consequences that we have in
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civilized society and and I'm afraid
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that i agree with you i don't like to be
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punched in the nose either i don't like
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punching someone but this is this is
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this is the point is the point of the
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whole thing this is where the conditions
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come back don't want to be punched in
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the nose don't drunkenly stand on
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somebody's shoe tops now is it's
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absolutely true i mean here's my lasagna
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is he that should be on the front page
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should be on the the title page of be a
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the owners manual for being an adult
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that you would they were the TA for
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whatever he was writing on facebook your
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note in the margin would be you need to
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spend a little more time on the history
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of what used to be like in pre punch in
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the nose culture that's right you need
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to be ready the fact is going to be
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traditional there's gonna be there's
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gonna be people who still like the
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Shakers like the friends there are
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people who still cling to these values
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you know just because they don't own a
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car doesn't mean they can't run you over
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with something you know that's true okay
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i think a lot of people think that they
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are smaller than they are like they they
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inhabit their own body and their own
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soul and they think that they are
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smaller and less significant than they
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appear to be two other people you know
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so this guy his perception of himself
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it was probably that he was an elfin
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delicate flower that now is obvious to
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everyone and he does not realize that he
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is a five foot eleven screaming monster
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of an alcoholic and so his reaction to
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being punched in the nose is somewhat
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based on his self perception of being
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like this defenseless victim
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that he's that he's felt like he's been
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his whole life and in actual fact most
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people who feel like victims i mean most
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of the people who are like cutting you
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off in traffic who are being total talks
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to you and that in the supermarket if
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you really get to the bottom of their
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problem it is that they feel like a
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victim all the time they feel like
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everybody steppin on them and that's why
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they're justified in being and being a
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shithead of all day food
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well as somebody who really is a giant
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pussy I'm not qualified to really
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address this i mean i like um and and
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and amateur lawyer as well it seems to
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me though that there actually was an
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opportunity for both of you here to
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learn you have a new I mean I'm not
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saying that you taught him a lesson
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quote-unquote the real lesson would have
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been talking to him after about why you
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fucking punched him in the nose and say
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hey look I used to be that guy I've been
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punched in the nose a lot i've been you
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really want to try with alcoholism it is
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that it clouds your thinking and it
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makes you not interesting
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makes you not interesting
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to talk to me what I learned in that was
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that I even though i had not punch
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somebody in the nose in many years I
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still I still was able to do it first
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and walk and walk away you know feeling
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pretty good about myself first
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not good about myself what's that let me
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I mean I felt I felt ashamed because i
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believe me i've drank the five-time I've
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had more than a few cups of the kool-aid
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that says that violence is not a
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solution
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okay i so i did not feel good about it
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but when I replayed the events i
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absolutely arrived at that punch in the
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nose moment and each time punched him in
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the nose of new you replay you replay it
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in your head you know yeah I really
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every I replay all these podcasts in my
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head I don't listen to them
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no but I replay them and I think should
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i have punch Merlin the nose at that
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point know i shouldn't've he's a long
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well i hope i never i hope i've never
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gotten completely to that point that the
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the product that the major progress that
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I've made in life is at has been
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gradually coming to an understanding
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that i am NOT a victim of anything of
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anyone you're taking power in your life
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well it isn't even that it's just
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eliminating the eliminating the sulky
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option of feeling like other people are
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inflicting life on me that everything
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that everything bad happen business
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hasn't visited points this is something
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Susan polish us has addressed she says
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this life is yours take the power to
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choose what you want to do and do it
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well take the power to control your own
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life no one else can do it for you take
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the power to make your life happy
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Susan polish shuts so she didn't use the
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word love once in that poem i can read
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the whole thing
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Oh take the power so she's take this is
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she's got a little and Randy there oh
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yeah take the power bill the rail right
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kick the power asshole would be more I
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Rand right
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OIC way to way to correct my
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pronunciation sorry Ron ain't on Lion
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Rock lobby
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it's a mug synthesizers not a movie it's
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man was she sick for a long time Lauri
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you know we went to different high
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schools and so I in one sense i only saw
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her one more time which was at a cross
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country running meet my junior year in
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high school and this was right in right
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in the that moment where right
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it was after i decided it was after
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really that my dad decided that i was
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going to be a cross-country runner but
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before we all realized that cross
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country running was not gonna that was
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not the way i was going to get into the
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Olympics my first kind of cross country
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running meet the the other kids on the
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team I never run cross country and the
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other kids on the team were like what
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you have to do is you know we all
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started a big group of people get this
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you have to get out in front to get out
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in front of everybody because otherwise
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you get you get back in the pack and you
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can't move and I was like okay right get
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out in front of everybody and the gun
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went off and I sprinted and by the time
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we got to the half mile mark of this 10k
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race I was 200 yards in front of the
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next closest runner and I said to myself
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I am The King of this sport
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why is no one ever done this before i am
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the greatest cross-country runner in the
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world i'm not even tired and I am I
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can't even see me I'm so far ahead and
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people cheering they were like he's a
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genius and we rounded that first turn
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and we headed up that first Hill and
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about halfway up that first Hill my
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heart turn to stone and i could not I
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could not get enough air in my lungs no
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matter how hard I tried to breathe and
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one by one every runner from every high
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school in the state of Alaska ran past
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me as I gasped for breath and this year
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is the cheering die down the cherry died
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down and that you know at the two
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kilometer mark i was i was limping like
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a flogged mule and i had to continue to
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run that race just like I mean
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like like a war veteran I like a man
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save you all right with with with
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crippled legs but pressures off
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yeah i was I yeah like turkey legs and
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Iran I when I cross the finish line all
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the other all the other runners from all
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the other schools were already on the
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haha in sweats and I dragged my ass
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across that thing I lay on the grasp lay
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on the grass gasping and you know and no
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one really had anything nice to say
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everybody just kind of like a good
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effort or whatever I don't think my dad
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was I think my dad was in the car
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listening to eight track tapes but home
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the pork shoulders haha Pennsylvania
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that's pretty good
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