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179: Thief-Based Economy

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable number 179 january2014 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/0">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► automatic comfortable on your host Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► smell and it's time for us to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13 ◼   ► another edition of our book and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► haven't read books and a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19 ◼   ► we've been reading books but we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/19">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► met and convened there's been no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► convention of book readers on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► podcast in a little while to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► specific books we did our book draft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► where we did our winter but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► picked a bazillion books for you to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34 ◼   ► that you're probably still trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► through but we're back to talk about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/36">TS</a>]

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00:00:42 ◼   ► horn will give you a warning about when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► to skip ahead if you want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/44">TS</a>]

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00:00:48 ◼   ► the two books that we read because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► been so long i wanted to read two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/50">TS</a>]

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00:00:55 ◼   ► recommended to me for a while now by our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► panelists and I read them and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/58">TS</a>]

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00:01:03 ◼   ► like podcasts so here we are and Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/63">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► McNulty joins us of course as always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► because he reads everything hi Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► hello Jason it's good to be here reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/71">TS</a>]

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00:01:22 ◼   ► podcast where we all individually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► silently read books and all you hear is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/84">TS</a>]

00:01:27 ◼   ► the turning of pages yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/87">TS</a>]

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00:01:34 ◼   ► also joins us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► hello Monty hello hi good to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/95">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/98">TS</a>]

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00:03:38 ◼   ► in the second book and I loved it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/218">TS</a>]

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00:03:51 ◼   ► this idea for when locking coat meet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/231">TS</a>]

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00:04:03 ◼   ► me the book could you take us through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► little explanation of what are the lies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08 ◼   ► of locke lamora is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/248">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► yeah well the last lot more is a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► book it takes place in the fictional a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► realm of cum more and it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/254">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► follows this crew of thieves name the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/258">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► gentlemen bastards and we sort of get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► couple hundred twenty narratives one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► get the past of the main character or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► the titular locke lamora and how we sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/270">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► of grows up and gets taken into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/275">TS</a>]

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00:04:37 ◼   ► leader meanwhile it's intertwined with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► narrative from the present day as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► try to pull off a job and what's notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/281">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► about the thieves and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► struck me even more the second time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► read through is that what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► is really unheard of in this world which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► is to say they're not just thieves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► though they are good thieves their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/294">TS</a>]

00:04:55 ◼   ► comment and nobody's really developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/295">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► this art of the con yet the long con [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/299">TS</a>]

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00:05:04 ◼   ► all these as as many good con stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► and movies and books have various layers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► there's lots of people working against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► each other at various points and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► rather terrible things happen later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► in the book but I i have to say i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/317">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► love this book is one of my favorites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► from the last several years and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25 ◼   ► recommend it to many many people anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27 ◼   ► really likes fantasy I feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► not your typical it's not like high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/328">TS</a>]

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00:05:33 ◼   ► concerned primarily with these guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► are the thieves and rogues there's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/335">TS</a>]

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00:05:40 ◼   ► it plays a a kind of key role i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/340">TS</a>]

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00:05:53 ◼   ► civilization yet which it was which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/353">TS</a>]

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00:06:52 ◼   ► and the people the next building get up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► on our building and he built this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► pyramid of people and he's at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57 ◼   ► of it getting beat up and this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► that cause there's like the the low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► thieves and then the the higher thieves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► robbed from the lower thieves in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► higher thieves robbed and it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06 ◼   ► whole you get the sense this whole city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► is entirely it's like a thief based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12 ◼   ► yeah and these guys are trouble because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► they're like the there they're like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17 ◼   ► thief's thieves of thieves there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► break the rules write the rules are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► they've made the sort of head you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► Godfather like figure of the underworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► has made this deal where the thieves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/447">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► don't steal from the nobles essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► and so right they're protected right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► there's a secret peace between them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/456">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► so lock in his crew are secretly going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41 ◼   ► behind the backs of their of the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43 ◼   ► the thieves and and ripping off nobles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► using these con games and so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48 ◼   ► playing this very difficult this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50 ◼   ► risky game and it may come back to bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53 ◼   ► them in the ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► the only way to win that game is not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► play more to play it really well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59 ◼   ► posting this is the wrong lesson to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► you'll be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02 ◼   ► yes you can win it by winning that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► another way to win the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► traditional little-known fact about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07 ◼   ► game you take a risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► somebody will come into your lair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► kill everybody oh did I spoil something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13 ◼   ► there's lots of people died in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/493">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► lots of characters are horribly horribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/498">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► sometimes you have to sacrifice some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20 ◼   ► ponds to do something i don't i don't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/500">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► I without without blowing I mean I gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27 ◼   ► a little that was a little miners we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/507">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► want some people thought little miners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30 ◼   ► both know i think you can read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► and you wouldn't know you're not like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33 ◼   ► I'm gonna wait for people to die o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► people died of more people that lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36 ◼   ► people died in the book it's just people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► it happens there's lots of murder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► and it is think everything you need in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► the george RR martin school of there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/521">TS</a>]

00:08:44 ◼   ► very few people who are sacred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46 ◼   ► yeah exactly right exactly right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► here's here's the thing that got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50 ◼   ► about this book structurally and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52 ◼   ► right at the beginning so i'm not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► not skipping ahead too much to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55 ◼   ► found its structure really weird because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► there's this whole prologue that goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/537">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► seemingly forever and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► reads like you're reading the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► of a novel about this child who is taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► in by this by this kind of Sagan asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10 ◼   ► just like it always say it's the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► orphans come to this underground lair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► where they learned steel and they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► there's again a chain of who beats up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► who and who takes whose money that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► stolen all of that and this goes on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► I you know it seems like a long time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25 ◼   ► seems like 50 pages 70 pages i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► know how long it was and I get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► end of it and I thought oh ok well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30 ◼   ► this was a little long and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► little slow but i'm intrigued about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► happens next to this little kid and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► turn the page and it says chapter one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► and I go what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► wait that was still the prologue yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► that was still the prologue and chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44 ◼   ► one begins and it's a totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► timeframe and it's these it's these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► of wise guy crooks who are working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► scheme and I'm thinking to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54 ◼   ► has there been an error have I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56 ◼   ► stroke as my kindle rebooted what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► what just happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► and in the end we discovered that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/600">TS</a>]

00:10:01 ◼   ► there is this it's not entirely the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► plot in the B plot because it does drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06 ◼   ► off sort of after all that there's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► flashbacks to explain things in the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► but it kind of keeps accelerating but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► goes for a while and I kept thinking I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14 ◼   ► it I guess what I'm saying is it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16 ◼   ► frustrated me because I felt like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18 ◼   ► was sort of it was slowing things down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20 ◼   ► at a point where I wasn't being kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22 ◼   ► the good kind of tormented of like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24 ◼   ► I want to find out what happens next it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► was more like Oh more of this now okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28 ◼   ► and it picked up eventually but it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/628">TS</a>]

00:10:32 ◼   ► thought this was a really slow starter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► and I i really struggled for its through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► through the beginning of chapter one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► I could say that because it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► long to get there so I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► strange I thought it was a strange way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► to start it is a little it is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► uh unconventional and i agree there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47 ◼   ► lot of that it was different for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► because i was reading for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► recently for the second time I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► tell you how much I what I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► first time that was many years ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► this time around knowing what was coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58 ◼   ► I was like all right I'm filling in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► backstory and remembering all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01 ◼   ► things about his childhood but it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► also knowing that that wasn't the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► thrust of the plot and I think even even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► Scotland has said himself that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► yeah if you would go back he would do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/670">TS</a>]

00:11:11 ◼   ► differently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13 ◼   ► yeah too late but it is well dan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15 ◼   ► brought in your past self from 2007-12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► to join us now to tell us what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/679">TS</a>]

00:11:20 ◼   ► no sorry i really like oh boy i had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/680">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► quit smoking at that point you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27 ◼   ► unfortunately wow did the end 2007 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30 ◼   ► sounded like sort of a high voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32 ◼   ► confused Scott McNulty was strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► it's very weird iris drive it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► hard to lose that accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37 ◼   ► Monty what did you what it what did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► think of the lies of locke lamora um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/699">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► enjoyed it enormously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/703">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► I don't know if I think it's a good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► or a bad book but I really really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► the character of lock so much that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/709">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► carries me through almost any do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► amount of gratuitous murder of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► there is quite a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00 ◼   ► yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/720">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► like I really like that lock is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► consistently drawn he's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► superpower which i can say because in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the title of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► he's a very good liar yes and at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/734">TS</a>]

00:12:18 ◼   ► point in order to get out of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► situation has gotten himself in he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► will probably get out by being a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► good liar and I appreciate that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27 ◼   ► consistency in a book that lets say he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/747">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► in a swordfight he's not necessarily be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33 ◼   ► greatest sword fighter that sword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35 ◼   ► fighting plus lying will result in him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► winning i enjoy lock so much that well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/757">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► want to say i would watch him do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► anything but i never got around to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► reading the later books in the series so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► that was strictly true you don't love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► him that much but presented with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► doing something I enjoy I enjoy watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/771">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► it happen when he's got his little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/774">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► friends he's got a little gang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► well I mean so you've got his mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► like it's like watching a buddy cop show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/778">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► to a certain extent right because you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► got you've also got gene tannin who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05 ◼   ► the other sort of Maine ish character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07 ◼   ► and the two of them have a report that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► is very reminiscent of you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12 ◼   ► character driven procedural shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► yeah and my favorite classic fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► series is factored in the gray Mouser by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► fitz labor so I like seeing sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► their descendants in the dnd thief class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/803">TS</a>]

00:13:27 ◼   ► rep sticking around got worried about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30 ◼   ► you what do you think of of the LifeLock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► Maura [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/813">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► well i thought that i had read this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/814">TS</a>]

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00:20:18 ◼   ► ultimate way that it plays out is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► that he you know lock is not your sword [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:24 ◼   ► you know swashbuckling sword-swinging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► hero right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► he's a guy who can take a punch and take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► a lot of punches and eventually his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► buddy who is a serious bruiser shows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34 ◼   ► and so it was you know he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► really good at some things but he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► good at everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:39 ◼   ► yeah and I think that's what makes him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► fun character to watch he is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► incredibly flawed but he's no miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► producing I mean miles with us again has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► his own flaws and in fact I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► locking miles are actually very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52 ◼   ► in that they're both very clever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54 ◼   ► both you know very smart and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► resilient but at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57 ◼   ► extremely confident of their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► abilities and sometimes to the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► their downfall anything else we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► we should mention about livelaughlove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06 ◼   ► Maura it is bloody there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08 ◼   ► murder and counter murder there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► there's a really nice couple of set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► pieces in a tower that is up in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► crazy kind of alien built obsidian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► skyscraper thingies where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► there's a good bit with an elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► he jumps on the upside an elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► there's a couple great i mean one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29 ◼   ► favorite little set-pieces is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► story told in sort of you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► passing which is about the Godfather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► like character and how he comes to power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38 ◼   ► at one point because he has this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► where he puts he has this really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► rug and he keeps having people come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► and every time he's gonna like kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► people like they've rolled up the rug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► and put it away and so you might like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► all the other crime because this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:51 ◼   ► years and then the other crime bosses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► come in one day and there although we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► busy all the rugs there you won't ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► the rock and then kill software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► development throws out the rug and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59 ◼   ► like i like that because that seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► a clever you know conceit in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► that somebody who is a crime boss in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► particularly brutal would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► yeah but it is an ice road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► it is nice road but you know sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► you are when you're making an omelet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► gotta break a few rugs ties the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:17 ◼   ► also these the sub the subplot with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► the spider i think is is also one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► guy i like the development of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► character because very easily could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► been a kind of stereotypical trubbish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► you know spymaster character and instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► it turns out to be someone who is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► entirely who you suspect the end of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40 ◼   ► was very strange that was that was part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42 ◼   ► of the ending that I that maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► part of what money was getting to at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46 ◼   ► very end it's sort of like well now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48 ◼   ► going to retire a spymaster and you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► sort of random characters that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► really seem qualified to be this at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► this at the most important job in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► entire country you will be the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► spymasters goodbye and I thought wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► but those they kind of suck why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► you what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► come on is this a con is this some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► of con they were the best that can more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09 ◼   ► heads off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:10 ◼   ► that's pretty sad it is pretty sad they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► keep getting ripped off their the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► people who actually got like seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► con so you know they have experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► that I guess that that seemed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► seemed all too law of economy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► characters for me that it was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► you're nearby you be this new thing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29 ◼   ► goodbye and that didn't that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31 ◼   ► really make a lot of sense for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► all in all I mean I liked it i did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► curse your name Dan after i finished it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:37 ◼   ► probably good my actually was like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► that's nice thanks Dan for buying me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41 ◼   ► book and make me make me read it so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43 ◼   ► would have been sad if you didn't like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44 ◼   ► I it is it remains one of my favorites i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46 ◼   ► enjoyed reading it immensely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48 ◼   ► so secret sequels what we mentioned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► uh we mentioned this before where Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:52 ◼   ► told us the second one was bad and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:55 ◼   ► therefore by the process of elimination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► the third would be the second best is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► lot of people apparently didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01 ◼   ► third and I was even seeing some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► in the chat room say that i enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► third and part of that has to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► the fact that sabita is a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► character in it i'm just gonna pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09 ◼   ► her name that wakes that's how I saved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► my head and I like the rapport between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► her and lock it does so come a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15 ◼   ► bit too too much of the you know i kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► will they won't they sort of scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► they also clearly have a lot of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► there is also a again they do this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► of thing where they have a a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► second thread that tells a story from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► when they are young girl yeah that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35 ◼   ► sort of goes along at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► which is also in and of itself kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► cool con set up but yeah i agree it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► got the second one is the weakest though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► it has some necessary things in it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► far as the plot goes in the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► of those characters go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► yeah if you want to read these books I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► would not suggest skipping not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► prepared to be disappointed you would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56 ◼   ► very surprised at the beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► third book is lowering the bar here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► what we're doing well I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► still some great stuff and there's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► character moments and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03 ◼   ► what draws me through it even when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► plots I feel like art as strong the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► relationship between lock and gene is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:10 ◼   ► sort of the bedrock on which these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12 ◼   ► stories are built and that remains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14 ◼   ► pretty solid in my opinion so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► that's kind of the thread that keeps me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► going through it is the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► between those two characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► yeah I like Jean as a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► I think I like him more than I like lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► and you don't like miles either so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28 ◼   ► kind of jobs true i like lock more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► like miles though so if I'm ranking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33 ◼   ► gene and Ivan right i do like I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► more than I like a miles and block screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► lock is a you know he is he's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► mysterious figure whereas gene you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:47 ◼   ► the sense when we know jeans story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► we know where he's coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51 ◼   ► in a way that we don't really from lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53 ◼   ► and you know that that's the jeans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55 ◼   ► advantage again he's a known entity he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► he's a stalwart companion kind of the-- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:02 ◼   ► Friar Tuck I supposed to Robin Hood a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05 ◼   ► fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► not as mercurial but you know like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► saying more of a steady steady guiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► influence might be like we know lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► pretty well here's a guy who lies all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14 ◼   ► the time and makes things way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► complicated than he has to know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► true that is true is all about style as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► long as it's consistent i'm buying with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22 ◼   ► that that's one of the things that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24 ◼   ► story like this where you got this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► of roguish hero who is kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► he's he's a hero but he is also roguish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29 ◼   ► right one of the things that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31 ◼   ► about it is that he he is he pushes it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► little too far sometimes because he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38 ◼   ► can't help himself and that's that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► know it's fun to see that to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41 ◼   ► like well let's try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► oh that didn't work right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45 ◼   ► good that's what part of the enjoyment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► of it it's that uh yeah he's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/1606">TS</a>]

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00:33:56 ◼   ► confusion and a protagonist that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► quite certain of its own individuality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► which is an interesting combination and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► so a brac spent most of its time I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► about a thousand years being this part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► of this multifaceted intelligence that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14 ◼   ► ran the ship the Justice of Toren the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► Justice of Toren that's right and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► know go about doing things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► conquering planets and the way that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► society propagates itself is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27 ◼   ► much like the Roman Empire it captured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► conquering its neighbors and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► manufacture soldiers they would take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:36 ◼   ► corpses of the Concord worlds and store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► them in their ships why i think yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► technically they would make them corpses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► well the street and then they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► store the corpse it's not taking me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► taking pre existing courses because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► would be parented process that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:55 ◼   ► involves killing the native population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► it's a little like plan9 now that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► think about it and then the these bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► are stored on the ship and the ship can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► insert some sort of technology that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11 ◼   ► takes over the bodies in those bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► than house different facets of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► intelligence but they are all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► one hole yet separate beings kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► like the Holy Trinity you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► completely different spaceship ok this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► podcast is now blasphemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► so thanks Scott thanks like doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► Pope is just condemned our podcast good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35 ◼   ► the Pope is a Jesuit he's cool with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► alright fair enough he prefers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► sparrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► it has probably well maybe not depends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► well yeah you're right you're right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► right so anyway this character brake is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► on a quest to find a gun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► we're not sure why until it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► clear that he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57 ◼   ► well she is wants to kill the ruler of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► his civilization the lord of the radish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► against radish and we find out that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► Lord of radish is in fact not one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► but I has hundreds of our maybe 200,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:13 ◼   ► tens of thousands of bodies that are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:16 ◼   ► connected in some way and unbeknownst to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► us the lord of the ranch who apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► is a you know driving force of society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24 ◼   ► and who everyone thinks of as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► sacrosanct person is in fact splintering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► within itself and fighting an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► civil war amongst its own bodies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37 ◼   ► using the various ships against itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► so that the little one version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42 ◼   ► Lord of radish would visit a ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44 ◼   ► then erase the fact that it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► and then another version would come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► erase the version that was already there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► it gets a little confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► yep that was a very very like wide he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► go crazy in 2001 it's that it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► conflicting orders and that's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► what happens in an ancillary justice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► there's the leader of this Empire but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05 ◼   ► the leader itself is it issuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:10 ◼   ► conflicting orders because it's at war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► with itself and this is freaking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► these artificial intelligences on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► ship's I thought that was really clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► I at the same time I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► confused because the only other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► quote unquote that we saw with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► multibody things for ships as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:28 ◼   ► the Emperor who is also was a presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► all of those are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► yes it's a little weird because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► not quite analogous in that like one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► clearly corpses of this like of like AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► whereas one is a person's consciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► spread over many bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► it's a hard book to summarize i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► yes a great a great immune to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► certain level it's it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► straightforward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► a breakfast it was seeking vengeance but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► against a tyrant basically but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► explaining i think it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► nuanced than that and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► going on beyond well it's do once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► yet on another level III get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► that breck isn't quite sure what exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► she's gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► she sort of like well we get the gun the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► gun can can can make some trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► I'm gonna make some trouble and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► see how much trouble I can make before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► they better have to kill but she also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► knows she can't kill the Emperor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► going from Lord of the radch cuz ya ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► Ave because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► he/she has many bodies and thus it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► impossible free for want to kill all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► them and there's a point towards the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► of the book were breakeven says I then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► realized that my whole plan was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42 ◼   ► impossible but yeah it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► who well thanks well also what's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► about the Civil War is that and I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► of actually dug this in which was which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:55 ◼   ► side is the right side and it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► neither of the right like basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► there's one that might be slightly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:01 ◼   ► beneficial to breakfast continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► existence right and there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► philosophical differences there but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08 ◼   ► the same time she's kind of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11 ◼   ► kill all of them all the it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► there's a good one a bad one it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► like this politics because they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► the ratch Empire is and i called at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► ranch I don't know that works for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► it's it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► they're not very nice they're there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► bake conquer these planets and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► all these terrible things actually one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:29 ◼   ► of things i really appreciate about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► book is that we don't you know in i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► would i would say like 50 sci-fi you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► could have a story like this about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38 ◼   ► hive mind made up of bodies and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► wouldn't worry about who these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► these people were before well we took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► dead bodies and we and we made them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► people and and the plot of ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► justice pivots on the mistreatment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► the people by the Empire and a and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► massacre and so it's not they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01 ◼   ► steer away at all from the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► horrific society that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► that causes this scenario to exist it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► part of the story i really like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:12 ◼   ► and instead what we get with the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► warring factions within the Emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► which is you know is that that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17 ◼   ► ego and super-ego or whatever its except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► spread out on all these bodies it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► of interesting the internal conflict of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► the Emperor is no external but what's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► the end politically what the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► is is that they they ran into this alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30 ◼   ► race and the alien race looked at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► and said while you're really two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► right it's like you were the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37 ◼   ► interesting species that we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39 ◼   ► actually consider sentient so we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41 ◼   ► going to completely destroy you but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► you are really bad and we are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► do bad things to you if you don't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48 ◼   ► and one of the one part of the Emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► wants to say screw those guys and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► other one set is the one who said all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► right I guess we're gonna have to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► expanding our Empire and just sit here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00 ◼   ► and not conquer even any other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► human cultures or just gonna sit it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:06 ◼   ► and then they have this fight and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07 ◼   ► an interesting thing because i'm not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► that way you kind of rooting for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► aliens who have said stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► you guys are are bad you need to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► this right well and there's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► other like little plots of you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19 ◼   ► in retrospect are clues that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► make up this Civil War right because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24 ◼   ► get these flashbacks to that so part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► it is the flashbacks to that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30 ◼   ► occupation annexation whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► to call it and we actually see brac as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► ship at that point experiencing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► whole annexation and that sort of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► one of the tipping points but we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► have these couple pivotal events they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► talk about it was the emai where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► like a governor who's going like corrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► and is doing things behind people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► backs and it turns out maybe that plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► into the Civil War and then there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► the whole incident with the gun itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► and where it came from which was to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► the aliens I think they provide it to ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:04 ◼   ► other group that's literally gun-running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06 ◼   ► that's happening in the background here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► which is we're not like invisible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:08 ◼   ► gun-running though that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:11 ◼   ► yes invisible armor piercing shield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14 ◼   ► piercing gun running one of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16 ◼   ► in the chat room pointed out something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► that's very nice we just you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► could argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► since one of the Emperor's is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► basically on the side of not conquering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23 ◼   ► all these planets and killing all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► people to use as Corp soldiers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27 ◼   ► other one is in favor of that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► could be you could probably lean to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► side I think what we're saying is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► that that neither of them was without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► sin here there one may be worse than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► other strand but they do they make they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► make they make a clear point though that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► the the the normal radish troops are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► much worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:47 ◼   ► yes the court executives right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► they caused many more massacres the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► so I mean not that I'm pro-corporate i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► mean just see it's martin admit McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► if you don't want corpse troops then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59 ◼   ► your door hinges are going to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► gunky that's right that in that in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03 ◼   ► ends up being a problem I i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► didn't find either those care either the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► factions particularly cut and cut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► dried when it came to that I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► and that's interesting in some ways it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► probably better than if there was simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► black and white but at the same time III [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► felt like the differences and we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21 ◼   ► exactly subtle but like I had to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► know wait is this okay so this guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► talking about this but we also talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► about why that was good you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27 ◼   ► having the ancillary is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29 ◼   ► humans in some places so like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► trying to balance that and i think it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► ends up being icon with breakfast just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► kill them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► yeah my god started having these dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► these people we've killed brought back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► as a slave bodies for the only obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► that is not good but our hero is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:45 ◼   ► ostensibly one of those to which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► which makes it somewhat you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► entertainment and remembers having all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► these ancillary zand being really happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► so yeah this is the suggestiveness this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► is the richness of this of this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58 ◼   ► that we've got this high-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2638">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► background that the story is told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► against which is as as broad widescreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05 ◼   ► space operas you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► Oh an alien or human Empire an alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► Empire and the taking over planets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► converting dead bodies into ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16 ◼   ► ancillary and all of that and yet it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19 ◼   ► then inside that we've got this struggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► of identity with brac who is you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► haven't even talked very much about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► is a hive mind that we're one of the B's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► you know and all the bees are human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31 ◼   ► intelligence their people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► then one of them gets cut off from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► the others so they are the they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► impression of the hive mind and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► have been thinking of themselves as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40 ◼   ► hive mind all along and now all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► sudden break is a person and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► fascinating is break even has a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► time thinking of herself as a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► she's a ship that happens to be in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:52 ◼   ► ancillary when in fact she is what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► would call a person and that's a fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56 ◼   ► that's fascinating to me that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58 ◼   ► there's this real struggle on this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► character who starts out your custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► sort of kind of wandering and depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05 ◼   ► and and because she's lost have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► everything she's lost most of herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► and that and she is this last echo of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► almost like a ghost an echo of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► creature that doesn't exist anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17 ◼   ► yeah to break Rex name is justice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► Toren because that was the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► ship that wreck was the AI of it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► even that it's justice of Toren and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► was the one ask one ask one asks 17 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► something like that 19 yeah I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► a one of this huge thing and that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► that's left is one asked night which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► why I thought the whole concept which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► made this book just a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► to me which is you know why it was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► favorite book of the year because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► thought there were so many layers to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► and it took kind of a familiar story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► gave it a very interesting in new twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► and spin to it and plus I think she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► good writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► I could have done with fewer layers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► well I can get murky I felt the book had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► too many ideas like the ongoing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► about how wreck doesn't know what gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► people are that meant nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► yep and just got in the way you got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► was like a negative means use the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► that like because and I and I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18 ◼   ► if you're making a point about like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► know in the future gender doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► if you're in like you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23 ◼   ► totally cool I'm all on board with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► but the fact that it was used in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► place where it's like I can't picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► yeah because I don't know if it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► maybe I should not be bound by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32 ◼   ► constructs of gender but guess what I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► because I live in the 21st century and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► that we still do things that would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► for yourself if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► Australia gender this is a great idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42 ◼   ► you're going to tell story that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► about gender really i mean it is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► identity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46 ◼   ► way but it's not really about gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47 ◼   ► identity yeah it's a strange choice I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► was struck early on they flee out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53 ◼   ► this town and go and their their ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► crashes and there in the snow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► they're walking to get in this super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► cold planet and walking to get to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► place and I was really reminded of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► left hand of darkness which is which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► owe my memory of that book is it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► a it's very cold whole book it's a cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:12 ◼   ► cold thing and that was a book that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► about gender and gender identity and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► it would make sense for a book like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► this book is not I just I felt not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:22 ◼   ► that and she had a really clever idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► and it is clever and there's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► funny moment where this this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► she's been toting around referring to as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► a her all along you realize is a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► because she's like uses the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► language and you're like oh male ok that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:38 ◼   ► yeah methanation way but is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► I but i don't know that that's true yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► and like someone uses it but in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45 ◼   ► whole point is in the radical language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► they don't have any Gentile buddy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► but she translated remembers oh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► using this language so i need to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► that it that that it's mail that she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► mail and and so you get that but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► only in these times of the crack shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► and it's you know it's interesting to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► to see through the little crack in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02 ◼   ► language to to the gender but in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► was it really necessary for this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06 ◼   ► yeah I don't think so i'd say i'd save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► that for a book that really has things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► to say about gender i highlighted it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12 ◼   ► page 161 409 thirty-nine percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► way through the book it is clear as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:19 ◼   ► Brett talks to stricken thats a garden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► is male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► yes guys as soon as the scenes / Brett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► goes back to calling some part in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► because breakfast in terms of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► ratch generalist language and i expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:32 ◼   ► in a sequel it will be made clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35 ◼   ► say pardon is in love with brick but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► don't see why we need the gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► confusion to conceal their brakes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► gonna notice anyway and we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42 ◼   ► what gender break is and i love I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► of assume female but again that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► the she is the word that's used all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► female pronouns are used throughout I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► thought that was clever but it was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► the point of a yet the confusion of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► made it made it harder for you took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58 ◼   ► out of the story because it Danny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00 ◼   ► trying to picture a character in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► I just wasn't sure what to picture I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► a hard time getting a drawn character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► and that's just the way i read it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► you know image that I have that imagery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► in my head so it made it difficult for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► me and i agree with you Jason if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► something that was really central to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► point of the book i think it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17 ◼   ► really interesting but in this book it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► just took me out of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► well i think it was central not doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22 ◼   ► specifically the gender like you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► think this book is making a big point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:28 ◼   ► about gender but it is making a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► point about identity and alien this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► how brick as a character is unsure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► itself and what it is and then as as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► readers this uncertainty about gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► kind of puts us in it confuses us it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► makes it a little more difficult and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45 ◼   ► frustrating to read yes but it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47 ◼   ► lets you sympathize with Brett because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► break is going through this on a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► larger scale but it didn't make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:52 ◼   ► sympathize with bracket made me wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► if brick was even for an AI out of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► computer stupid because there was a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► when Brett could read save gardens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► heartbeat breakfast should know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► everything about say Varden's physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► form and breck has had what was it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► 12 years walking among people right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► not that hard to learn the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► between a male and a female body i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21 ◼   ► cover it in a couple of sentences time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23 ◼   ► said I think I think her point is is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25 ◼   ► that they don't know it's that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► matter culturally they considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29 ◼   ► irrelevant and that language it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► old i'm going to bring it bring out some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► UCSD comm major you know Monty it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► old sapir-whorf hypothesis that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► language defines a the defiance culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► and the way we think and so the idea i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► mean that's the idea is they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► concept of gender it's not the gender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► isn't there and they know that when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► when when a male she and a female she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► loved each other very much they can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52 ◼   ► a baby she but um it but that uh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► idea is that they just don't think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57 ◼   ► those terms and so brac doesn't think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59 ◼   ► those terms i i i agree though I I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02 ◼   ► don't think it I i I'd I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► those issues are the issues of identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► that the book is about I think all it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07 ◼   ► does is it does add to the confusion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► makes us kind of confused like brac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12 ◼   ► i think it's a neat idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► this that book has a bunch of ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► think this one could have been taken out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► and i would have liked the look more i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► also would have preferred to have fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► wacky alien spellings because i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:26 ◼   ► necessarily picture the people while I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28 ◼   ► reading a book read you try to pronounce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29 ◼   ► the words in my head and what I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31 ◼   ► deal with the red chai and there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► that was a joke that was I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► her or was a really funny joke i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► always amused by that the early were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► like six ours that's the desert name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► yeah that's there because when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44 ◼   ► to them to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► ok my my other issues that sort of held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:49 ◼   ► me up in this book from really loving it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► was having at the characterization I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► found tough at times in terms of you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► have likable characters and unlikable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59 ◼   ► characters and I thought most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01 ◼   ► characters in this book were unlikable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► or I did not like them i should say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► guess get some garden is at least for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► the first half of the book is made to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11 ◼   ► extremely unpleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13 ◼   ► oh yeah and I in fact as the i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► as the book concluded i felt more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► sympathy towards the Varden than any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21 ◼   ► the other characters it's I need a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► to a certain extent but the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► breakfast seems and I having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28 ◼   ► identity confusion almost makes break a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► blank page right and so there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► moments where you get to see that kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► the character of bread do interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► things I thought the scene with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41 ◼   ► bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► you know that's sort of the selfless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► moment where she realizes that part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► going to fall and so jumps off a bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► to save some garden and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► encouragement great image and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► great realtor results yeah what was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► that is a moment where I was like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► right I feel like I'm now getting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► board with these characters but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:00 ◼   ► get i think that is the challenge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► writing a character that is supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► be a construct which is to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► brooke has a personality but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08 ◼   ► necessarily that it's lacking something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:12 ◼   ► of its humanity and that may be part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14 ◼   ► the point but it is it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16 ◼   ► difficult for me to step into the shoes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► and empathize with that character also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► from a plot perspective so much of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23 ◼   ► plot seems to hinge on the coincidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:27 ◼   ► meeting of some garden and brick at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► beginning which and I know they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► repeated reference to the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► the wrench i don't see coincidences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► right everything is everything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36 ◼   ► coincidence is actually the hand of god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► or yeah but it is a he like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► carrot garden has been lost for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43 ◼   ► thousand years and it happens to show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► on the planet where break is walking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► like I don't know that I you got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49 ◼   ► with it because it starts off the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► and that's basically what a way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52 ◼   ► things going but it seemed just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► incredibly implausible to me i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► bother me because I figured that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► you've been e.t.a I on a ship in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59 ◼   ► Empire for all that time you've met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01 ◼   ► thousands and thousands of officers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► for one of them to end up facedown in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► ditch 1,000 years out of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:10 ◼   ► yeah well I was in here is that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► like I mean you know when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► talking about people who live like 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14 ◼   ► years like which is already pretty long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16 ◼   ► but you know I don't know it just right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► but you live all that you live all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► time and you meet what you know hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► thousands and thousands of people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► this Empire and then you run into one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► don't know it didn't seem entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► unlikely to me and it didn't seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► her in her plan that doesn't hinge on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29 ◼   ► him it just turns out that he is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► effective tool to further the plan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3271">TS</a>]

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00:54:36 ◼   ► time either that that seemed odd to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3276">TS</a>]

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00:54:51 ◼   ► parts of the society but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► disconnected right I feel like it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54 ◼   ► have been interesting if he was one out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► of time or if he was one of our officers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57 ◼   ► but combining those two just seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► keeping too much stuff on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3299">TS</a>]

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00:55:11 ◼   ► long as house you know so that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3311">TS</a>]

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00:55:16 ◼   ► completely i guess my point was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► seem like enough convenient also need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20 ◼   ► be one of her officers not right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3320">TS</a>]

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00:55:29 ◼   ► that's true i think that is actually one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3329">TS</a>]

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00:55:40 ◼   ► that's a lot of lists let's take one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3340">TS</a>]

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00:55:52 ◼   ► get the feeling and correct me if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► wrong but you know what we're seeing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3354">TS</a>]

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00:56:07 ◼   ► on these different planets and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3367">TS</a>]

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00:56:10 ◼   ► awful empire that is taking over all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► other planets and then they meet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► actual aliens who decided that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► gonna not put up in yeah well to imply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► that there are I thought it was implied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► that there were other aliens that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► had encountered before that but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► you're right or the are the one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3385">TS</a>]

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00:56:29 ◼   ► have met their match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3389">TS</a>]

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00:57:02 ◼   ► this thing nobody can get into around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3422">TS</a>]

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00:57:22 ◼   ► reminded me of a little bit where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3442">TS</a>]

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00:57:28 ◼   ► set up and everything that's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:29 ◼   ► around it is just part of you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3449">TS</a>]

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00:57:39 ◼   ► enjoyed this book a lot i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► consider the best book I read last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3461">TS</a>]

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01:00:49 ◼   ► great and then when our protagonist gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► to wear our protagonist was going yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► gives up what the hell let's go do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► something else like I felt like the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00 ◼   ► of the book I'd stepped off a cliff put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► a pin in it where they say I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05 ◼   ► we're gonna put you in terms of a ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► come back later for the sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► never mind about the whole reason you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► were reading the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12 ◼   ► well maybe it's trying to do they try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14 ◼   ► explain it away well you did take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► some of the Emperor's and that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:19 ◼   ► shoot and Emperor like one out of two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► thousand bodies or whatever i don't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:24 ◼   ► and now you're on a call with lap you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► know but there's a new mission to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► this other thing that could also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► interesting and and you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► really have much choice on the matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► I it's there and it's engineered and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35 ◼   ► that was the part that made me laugh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► that I get why why she does that at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► end but at the same time it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► like congratulations you're now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43 ◼   ► captain of the starship enterprise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45 ◼   ► you're annoying sidekick he can be your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► first officer don't have adventures kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50 ◼   ► like this doesn't really fit with how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53 ◼   ► expected everybody to sort of end up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55 ◼   ► know shot to death at the end yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► wouldn't be good way to start a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:00 ◼   ► that would be what he and banks would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► those Scott it is what even banks would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03 ◼   ► do but his serious generally don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05 ◼   ► the same characters i like a resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07 ◼   ► and this book felt seems like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:11 ◼   ► refused to give it to know at the end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► the pilot of of serious right yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► and that's how they became the captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18 ◼   ► and first officer of a starship there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► gonna be more of these called you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21 ◼   ► ancillary revenge and ancillary love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► actually believe the next one is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► ancillary mercy haha I mercy not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► that up that's what it's that's that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31 ◼   ► believe that if you look at wikipedia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► page and so every sword ancillary mercy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► and I believe that an ancillary love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36 ◼   ► will be the next one much but so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39 ◼   ► was weird for me when reading this was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► I was finishing it up and i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► my kindle you get that little progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► bar at the bottom and i thought i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► whole chapter left and it turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48 ◼   ► that's just all the crap that they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49 ◼   ► at the end like an interview with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:50 ◼   ► offer and other stuff and I was so I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► to that chapter with her like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:53 ◼   ► going onto the ship and like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► so I got one more chapter know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56 ◼   ► the end of the book that's a better dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:59 ◼   ► then all is all that crap for book clubs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► at the end who does book i skipped all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► that bunch of jerks that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► that's I don't need that no I mean I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:08 ◼   ► don't want to sound like i was too down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► on this book i did enjoy it wasn't--oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11 ◼   ► yeah I i agree with Jason I I was not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13 ◼   ► favorite book I read last year but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► I think is more function of just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► pipes types of books that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19 ◼   ► and this is a book that i liked but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► didn't love i'm a check out the sequel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► we'll see what you know what the buzz on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26 ◼   ► those when they come out but I there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► lot of motti I think it's totally hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29 ◼   ► the nail on the head there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► ideas I was interesting them but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► like it would have benefited a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► more from just a little more focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► yeah i certainly liked the book i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► didn't fall head-over-heels in love with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:41 ◼   ► yeah yeah I liked a lot i well i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► read the the sequel I i was impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► and I I did love the love the richness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:50 ◼   ► of it but I did feel like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► little too much stuff in the in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54 ◼   ► the pot or too many layers memory know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:57 ◼   ► if we go back to the taco bell metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► which I'm not married too many burritos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00 ◼   ► in the pot what a burrito in every pot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► say put more burritos in that pot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► layers and burritos in the pot as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► a communist cat we didn't even talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10 ◼   ► about the fact that this is the this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► is famous for singing songs and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► that that whole thing which is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► weird like is it a person is it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► it's got its got these strange quirks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22 ◼   ► yeah they never really explained whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► the AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► is an AI or has an independent can act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► independently or not really but I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33 ◼   ► like that was on purpose so I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► well and I didn't like the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► really came down to the fact that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► they talked about the fact that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40 ◼   ► ships have their favorites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► you know and also the people like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► end of the day those in salaries there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46 ◼   ► still something person like about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49 ◼   ► that it came down to the fact that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► killing who we haven't really talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► about that story thread that much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► the the whole sort of flashback story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► thread where we see the Emperor order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00 ◼   ► eventually the death of this lieutenant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► who is you know beloved 200 extent which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► others who paraded who prevented a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:08 ◼   ► massacre right and that's essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10 ◼   ► what sets this whole thing in motion is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12 ◼   ► because she can't she can't stand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► justice of Toren can't stand that shoots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► the Emperor and the upper destroys the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► ship and to me that was the cool part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21 ◼   ► for me because I again I felt the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23 ◼   ► empathy with that character that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25 ◼   ► who you know felt that they had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27 ◼   ► what they were ordered because they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► in AI but also you know had this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► freewill action of like all right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33 ◼   ► now I'm gonna kill you because you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► me do something really bad and i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37 ◼   ► to send and then that's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:38 ◼   ► exciting scene where sense the this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:41 ◼   ► ancillary into the escape pod basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► to go off and yeah and you're like oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46 ◼   ► that's how that's how this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► that's how I know I took me a minute to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50 ◼   ► put those those pieces together but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52 ◼   ► you realize that I think that is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► as a great moment of Noah so that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► we get back i think it would be funny if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59 ◼   ► in a later book we discover that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:03 ◼   ► Emperor's two halves are split exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:06 ◼   ► along male and female lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09 ◼   ► ah but nobody can tell right haha how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► how we know you good one of the bad one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► there's no way to tell make sure to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► your Emperor spayed and neutered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► something that I think the damage that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► want to bring up again is that one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► that I did bother me like i said earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► i like the fact that we don't just see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► this kind of cool setup we do get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27 ◼   ► background where we really where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29 ◼   ► settle witnessed the horrors of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► Empire at close range that how these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► corpse soldiers bodies come to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► and what they do when they take over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► these planets one thing that I felt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► this book did shy away from and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► thought was unfortunate maybe she'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48 ◼   ► deal with it in the later installment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50 ◼   ► but I never I never felt that this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► dealt with who the who the person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55 ◼   ► the body was before it was taken over by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► the justice of Toren and I i'm sorry i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► don't believe that uh a person and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:07 ◼   ► their body and their brain is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► be completely vacant with whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11 ◼   ► science-fictional process puts an AI in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► it and if they have favorites and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15 ◼   ► these bodies all have sort of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17 ◼   ► that are quirky about them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4037">TS</a>]

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01:07:26 ◼   ► not deal with that at all which I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4046">TS</a>]

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01:07:34 ◼   ► don't necessarily need like a flashback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► where she suddenly has memories that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4056">TS</a>]

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01:07:46 ◼   ► advocated responsibility for that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48 ◼   ► our hero who were following here was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4068">TS</a>]

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01:07:57 ◼   ► is the body that happened to survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59 ◼   ► there's a passing reference the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4079">TS</a>]

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01:08:07 ◼   ► instead of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► yeah they're going to shrugs and get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► with their lives but yeah that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4090">TS</a>]

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01:08:26 ◼   ► you reading what am I really currently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► i'm reading what is called the Gini and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4108">TS</a>]

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01:08:35 ◼   ► through and it's very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► it's about a genie and go from everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4117">TS</a>]

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01:09:00 ◼   ► finished it could you know get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► crappy i also read a nonfiction book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► called empty mansions which is getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:09 ◼   ► lot of press and it was fantastic so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:12 ◼   ► you want some nonfiction check that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4152">TS</a>]

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01:09:16 ◼   ► reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4156">TS</a>]

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01:09:18 ◼   ► hurt called ancillary just tell us all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20 ◼   ► about it i did just finish that today so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:24 ◼   ► i picked up a new book yet the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4164">TS</a>]

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01:09:29 ◼   ► third book in the peter grant series the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:32 ◼   ► rivers of London series huh whispers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► underground which I which I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:37 ◼   ► I've enjoyed that series been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4177">TS</a>]

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01:09:47 ◼   ► looking for i think the fourth one comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4187">TS</a>]

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01:09:55 ◼   ► christmas which is a nonfiction book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57 ◼   ► about TE Lawrence that I really am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4197">TS</a>]

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01:10:05 ◼   ► Monty what about you what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06 ◼   ► reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► well I just finished reading a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► called ultimate porno with the making of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► a sex colossal what I go on connexion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:16 ◼   ► very high browse it's nonfiction it's by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19 ◼   ► the assistant director of Caligula and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:22 ◼   ► it's about how that movie got made and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24 ◼   ► it is fascinating huh wow it will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:29 ◼   ► surprise you to learn that the making of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► that movie was ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32 ◼   ► that's who woulda thought not like Ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► every level and I've also just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:40 ◼   ► reading the film noir reader which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:43 ◼   ► essays on fillmore alright like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:47 ◼   ► essay that defined film noir in 1955 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4247">TS</a>]

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01:10:55 ◼   ► episode is ultimate porno the making of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► a sex colossal it's probably not but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00 ◼   ► country and you think you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03 ◼   ► Caligula involved you do not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:08 ◼   ► casting process for all the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11 ◼   ► the background you think you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► imagine you can't even imagine Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16 ◼   ► what are you reading my thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► asking Scott I I've been reading right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20 ◼   ► now I'm reading crux by run as nom which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23 ◼   ► is the sequel to Nexus which I read last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25 ◼   ► year I good so far nexus a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:30 ◼   ► book about in the near future and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:34 ◼   ► yeah put this drug in their body called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:37 ◼   ► nexus that basically networks their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► brain and put some operating system in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41 ◼   ► the brain they can connect to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:43 ◼   ► people and it's sort of the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45 ◼   ► possibly creating a hive mind but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:46 ◼   ► governments are afraid of it are trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:49 ◼   ► to destroy it and there may be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► artificial intelligence or at least an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52 ◼   ► Augmented formerly human intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54 ◼   ► that's now taking over computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56 ◼   ► Robyn's mom is a use for Microsoft he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:59 ◼   ► writes nonfiction he also writes fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01 ◼   ► now and he is a a smart guy and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► some really interesting attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:07 ◼   ► extrapolation stuff in it so I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► enjoying crux i finished over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:13 ◼   ► holiday break i read love minus eighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15 ◼   ► by will mcintosh which is based on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:19 ◼   ► Hugo nominated short story called bride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21 ◼   ► sickles which is about in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:25 ◼   ► they they cure death but most people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28 ◼   ► are horribly who are dying a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31 ◼   ► accident they can cure death but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:34 ◼   ► have to also fix all the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:35 ◼   ► wrong with them and somebody apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37 ◼   ► has a brilliant idea that particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39 ◼   ► attractive dead people could be brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:42 ◼   ► back to life by rich men to marry them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:46 ◼   ► which is super as creepy it's creepier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:49 ◼   ► than it sounds in fact is that creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51 ◼   ► and this book this book is expands on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54 ◼   ► that and there's a there's a guy hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:57 ◼   ► guy boy meets girl boy gets girl with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59 ◼   ► his car girl dies boy feels really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:02 ◼   ► guilty boy goes and visits her corpse in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:05 ◼   ► the corpsicle pod but doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07 ◼   ► enough money to actually bring her back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:08 ◼   ► to life and it goes from there I friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:12 ◼   ► of the of the podcast Tom Green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13 ◼   ► recommended to me as his favorite book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15 ◼   ► of 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:16 ◼   ► it was I would say it was fine i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19 ◼   ► I i enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21 ◼   ► I i would say it's like The Love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22 ◼   ► Actually of sci-fi novels it's more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25 ◼   ► sci-fi romantic comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28 ◼   ► uh we're like I said girl is hit by car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:31 ◼   ► and yet all the characters are defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33 ◼   ► by their romantic relationships or lack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35 ◼   ► of same it's all about love triangles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38 ◼   ► and who's dating who even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40 ◼   ► set in this weird near future world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:43 ◼   ► where they've you know there's a vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:46 ◼   ► difference between the rich and the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:47 ◼   ► and some people have sort of led into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49 ◼   ► the countryside and all that and yet in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51 ◼   ► the middle of it it's just a big warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:53 ◼   ► romantic comedy strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:55 ◼   ► not bad just very strange and I I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:59 ◼   ► reading it expecting something else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00 ◼   ► like okay this is love actually got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02 ◼   ► got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► it's right there in the title of minus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06 ◼   ► eighty and then the other novel i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08 ◼   ► over the break with shadow ops control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10 ◼   ► point by my coal which dan recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12 ◼   ► to me and you know I like to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► positive person on this podcast so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:15 ◼   ► I'll say is I thought it was kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17 ◼   ► disaster and um iphone kind of and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbdHePs/4457">TS</a>]

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