The Incomparable

178: A Smoother Yar


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00:00:14   the incomparable number 170 a [TS]

00:00:21   january2014 [TS]

00:00:25   welcome back everybody to be [TS]

00:00:27   uncomfortable podcast on your host Jason [TS]

00:00:29   Snell and this is part two of our [TS]

00:00:31   console video game draft in part 1 [TS]

00:00:35   episode 177 we did the first round of [TS]

00:00:38   our console video game draft and got two [TS]

00:00:40   pics into the second round we're gonna [TS]

00:00:42   go four rounds deep so there's a lot [TS]

00:00:45   more left to listen to and so let's join [TS]

00:00:48   our draft and progress my guests are [TS]

00:00:50   Greg moss John siracusa boise st on [TS]

00:00:54   Steve let's and Tony sindelar and i [TS]

00:00:58   believe it's more assesses turn I didn't [TS]

00:01:01   see now now I'm kind of in position [TS]

00:01:03   behind the the Reverend pics being a [TS]

00:01:06   goofball and choosing the equivalent of [TS]

00:01:08   Miami connection to an extent that we [TS]

00:01:10   never seen the like of that here in here [TS]

00:01:12   there with Monty or or Steve watches [TS]

00:01:14   their game we're gonna play as Skeletor [TS]

00:01:17   cuz i wanna drink had to be a he-man [TS]

00:01:19   game it's something been probably came [TS]

00:01:20   with a burger king mail i want a game [TS]

00:01:22   where I play as Skeletor I'm not [TS]

00:01:23   interested in any man game thank you sir [TS]

00:01:25   my follow-up to what I think was the [TS]

00:01:29   first video game where you can check [TS]

00:01:30   someone bad dudes is another beat him up [TS]

00:01:34   another side scroller featuring an [TS]

00:01:37   unmistakable group of mutated [TS]

00:01:40   green-skinned roided-out martial artists [TS]

00:01:45   and of course I'm talking about [TS]

00:01:46   battletoads oh I take me out there [TS]

00:01:49   it worked one of the hardest games ever [TS]

00:01:54   by anybody's estimation who's actually [TS]

00:01:57   played the game this was obviously [TS]

00:01:59   pitched as a a concept ripoff of the [TS]

00:02:03   Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles we had [TS]

00:02:05   three toads names its pimple and rash [TS]

00:02:07   real classy names to mimic the classic [TS]

00:02:11   artists use for the ninja turtles they [TS]

00:02:14   had this you know big bad that they had [TS]

00:02:16   to fight and they had to punch a lot of [TS]

00:02:18   stuff along the way and there were [TS]

00:02:19   levels where you're in like a little [TS]

00:02:22   hovercar kind of a thing [TS]

00:02:24   this is the Battletoads series as it [TS]

00:02:28   were had an unfortunately short life as [TS]

00:02:31   super popular as the the first game was [TS]

00:02:34   I don't know if it was because of the [TS]

00:02:36   difficulty that the interest kind of way [TS]

00:02:39   down i don't know what the real story is [TS]

00:02:40   but of course battletoads was developed [TS]

00:02:42   by rare who at one time was completely [TS]

00:02:46   under the purview of nintendo and the [TS]

00:02:47   net drifted elsewhere but the there was [TS]

00:02:51   at one point a rumored remakes sequels [TS]

00:02:53   sort of a thing for the game boy advance [TS]

00:02:55   then there was talk of it coming to xbox [TS]

00:02:59   and it's just kind of floating out there [TS]

00:03:01   and it's difficult to impress upon [TS]

00:03:04   people just how hard compared to other [TS]

00:03:07   nes games this one was where people are [TS]

00:03:10   used to [TS]

00:03:11   I'll take an example from Super Mario 3d [TS]

00:03:13   World Book you died five times [TS]

00:03:17   consecutively in a world and you get a [TS]

00:03:18   magical leaf that makes you invincible [TS]

00:03:20   and gives you a tunic detail and there [TS]

00:03:23   are certain achievements that you can't [TS]

00:03:25   get if you finish a level that way but [TS]

00:03:27   it still makes you invincible for the [TS]

00:03:29   rest of the level and hold your hand [TS]

00:03:30   makes it easy for you battletoads never [TS]

00:03:33   ever held your hand and there would be [TS]

00:03:35   you could spend not just days but weeks [TS]

00:03:39   on some parts of this game just not [TS]

00:03:42   being able to get past it or charging a [TS]

00:03:45   parent's credit card on the London the [TS]

00:03:47   Nintendo tipline not that I ever did [TS]

00:03:50   that I just got insanely frustrated with [TS]

00:03:52   it wanted to throw the controller across [TS]

00:03:54   the room and it was fun [TS]

00:03:56   oh it's the the reward that came out of [TS]

00:04:00   be of finally solving those you know [TS]

00:04:04   those those tough to get through parts [TS]

00:04:06   or the the singular amount of dr that [TS]

00:04:10   you would get pressuring your friends to [TS]

00:04:12   come on no seriously come over on [TS]

00:04:13   Saturday I cannot be world 5 it's just [TS]

00:04:16   impossible i need another person or it [TS]

00:04:18   i'm i'm never going to beat this game is [TS]

00:04:20   going to drive me crazy it that that [TS]

00:04:23   kind of sensation there are those games [TS]

00:04:24   that are so hard that that that you want [TS]

00:04:26   to give up on them and that was [TS]

00:04:29   definitely battletoads for a lot of [TS]

00:04:30   people but for me it was something that [TS]

00:04:32   really took this skin and reskinned [TS]

00:04:36   reskinned beat him up action genre and [TS]

00:04:39   added a like a quantum level of [TS]

00:04:41   difficulty to it and really played the [TS]

00:04:44   conventions of it too [TS]

00:04:45   to the extent that it [TS]

00:04:47   if you if you manage to just get halfway [TS]

00:04:50   through the game not even beat it you [TS]

00:04:52   would feel a great deal of satisfaction [TS]

00:04:53   just getting always into it because of [TS]

00:04:56   how difficult the thing was i I have [TS]

00:04:58   vivid memories of how hard it was it [TS]

00:04:59   really took kind of nintendo hard and [TS]

00:05:01   ratchet up several several notches I [TS]

00:05:04   just remember dying over and over again [TS]

00:05:05   on the level for your little hover [TS]

00:05:07   scooter thing and they're like wrecking [TS]

00:05:09   balls that hit you and those yeah it was [TS]

00:05:11   intended they ever imported or exported [TS]

00:05:13   to Japan and did they have to change the [TS]

00:05:16   difficulty level it was just right for [TS]

00:05:17   japan in japan when you when you pick up [TS]

00:05:19   the cartridge it just it just inject [TS]

00:05:21   spikes into your hand close your fingers [TS]

00:05:24   of its well strangely enough they [TS]

00:05:27   crossed it over with double dragon they [TS]

00:05:30   took the totally disparate worlds at [TS]

00:05:33   this is this is absolutely real [TS]

00:05:35   they took the totally disparate worlds [TS]

00:05:36   of Battletoads and Double Dragon and [TS]

00:05:37   merge them and had the three battle [TS]

00:05:39   toads and and billy and jimmy the the [TS]

00:05:43   Leigh brothers of Double Dragon uniting [TS]

00:05:46   to fight the forces of of the Dark Queen [TS]

00:05:49   and shadow boss the Dark Queen basically [TS]

00:05:52   the super sultry sexed-up alternative to [TS]

00:05:56   shredder but otherwise the same kind of [TS]

00:05:59   looming dark presence but except [TS]

00:06:01   shredder I I think everybody should sext [TS]

00:06:04   shredder turns out but yeah I i really i [TS]

00:06:09   really wish that the Battletoads it had [TS]

00:06:12   more of a life there was a super [TS]

00:06:13   battletoads game for thus nests and and [TS]

00:06:16   that was a lot of fun too and and [TS]

00:06:18   there's an nes version and SNES version [TS]

00:06:20   of Battletoads and Double Dragon and you [TS]

00:06:23   know I I don't know how rare difficult [TS]

00:06:25   cartridges are to find I know that [TS]

00:06:27   everybody i know finds things [TS]

00:06:30   in the place other than the physical [TS]

00:06:31   realm at this point when it comes to [TS]

00:06:33   games like this [TS]

00:06:34   well issuu you've done it again but it's [TS]

00:06:37   at any these nes games because again i [TS]

00:06:39   have that i have no NES history at all i [TS]

00:06:41   have never even heard of this game so [TS]

00:06:42   thank thanks for bringing it up music [TS]

00:06:45   and yes that is a terrific classic well [TS]

00:06:48   left game I don't know how you could [TS]

00:06:49   think that was a jokey pic right and I [TS]

00:06:51   thought to newquay was your theme but [TS]

00:06:53   actually Mario Brothers had the tanuki [TS]

00:06:55   and that was Tony I know the Battletoads [TS]

00:06:56   cartridge was really rare and there was [TS]

00:06:58   apparently some kind of thing on the [TS]

00:07:00   internet for a while where people were [TS]

00:07:01   calling the pawn shop that's from that [TS]

00:07:03   reality television show and asking them [TS]

00:07:06   if they had people time it's like every [TS]

00:07:08   hour for days just I don't really know [TS]

00:07:11   and they would transcribe their [TS]

00:07:12   conversations and put them online and it [TS]

00:07:14   turns out that is a quick drive someone [TS]

00:07:16   mad is by asking them for battletoads [TS]

00:07:18   every hour for like four days and our or [TS]

00:07:20   transcribing conversations asking for [TS]

00:07:22   battletoads but also driving man yeah [TS]

00:07:23   it's the road to madness is that way we [TS]

00:07:26   are we are so slow here the third round [TS]

00:07:29   is gonna have to be a lightning round [TS]

00:07:30   Greg NOS though we're midway through the [TS]

00:07:32   second round now and it's been a million [TS]

00:07:34   years already [TS]

00:07:35   Greg nice it's your turn what do you [TS]

00:07:37   have I am going back to the 2600 of [TS]

00:07:39   course second love [TS]

00:07:40   after that bastard lots took my first I [TS]

00:07:44   ate it not yars revenge [TS]

00:07:47   uh yeah no yes yes yes [TS]

00:07:51   terrific yeah on one side of the screen [TS]

00:07:53   behind a barrier is some sort of large [TS]

00:07:55   gun you play a small insect i like it [TS]

00:07:58   because it is representative me in the [TS]

00:08:00   real world and you know way at the [TS]

00:08:02   barrier while the gun shoots at you you [TS]

00:08:04   move out of the way and finally once you [TS]

00:08:06   have a path through you can fire your [TS]

00:08:08   cannon at the gun and blow it up and [TS]

00:08:10   then you start all over again and it [TS]

00:08:12   goes faster and faster and faster and [TS]

00:08:14   faster and i played this game endlessly [TS]

00:08:16   to the point where and I'm not proud of [TS]

00:08:18   this i actually wrote a sequel for the [TS]

00:08:20   atari 8-bit computer where there were [TS]

00:08:23   bad guys on both ends and you had to get [TS]

00:08:25   them to shoot each other [TS]

00:08:26   wow I i wrote videogame fanfic well in [TS]

00:08:30   in videogame form it all comes out it [TS]

00:08:33   was a it was a great great fun [TS]

00:08:34   single-player game you could crank [TS]

00:08:36   through a dozen games without spending [TS]

00:08:38   too much time on it was really [TS]

00:08:39   nerve-wracking there was this was [TS]

00:08:41   I mean you talk about the atmospheric [TS]

00:08:43   sound in in things like shadow of the [TS]

00:08:46   colossus this had a pulse that would it [TS]

00:08:49   look like space invaders but more [TS]

00:08:51   mechanical and it would grow and grow [TS]

00:08:53   and grow as as the jeopardy of the game [TS]

00:08:55   went on until finally you either died or [TS]

00:08:58   the enemy was destroyed and the screen [TS]

00:09:00   blew up in a huge explosion it was a [TS]

00:09:01   terrific game and I can actually play in [TS]

00:09:04   your browser right now if you google it [TS]

00:09:05   you can play in your browser they have a [TS]

00:09:07   version online that runs in the browser [TS]

00:09:09   because your computer has several [TS]

00:09:11   million times the processing power [TS]

00:09:12   deputies that's why didn't they have [TS]

00:09:15   JavaScript emulators yars revenge is one [TS]

00:09:18   of that one of the rare atari 2600 games [TS]

00:09:21   that was really unique I mean it wasn't [TS]

00:09:23   it wasn't a port it wasn't you know at a [TS]

00:09:27   clone of some other games that have been [TS]

00:09:29   done 15 other times it was completely [TS]

00:09:30   original and it was really great [TS]

00:09:33   there's an ended the genius of having [TS]

00:09:35   the neutral zone in the middle where you [TS]

00:09:36   couldn't shoot you could ride we [TS]

00:09:39   couldn't be killed either [TS]

00:09:40   yeah but you couldn't but you also can [TS]

00:09:41   shoot so it said interesting little 12 [TS]

00:09:44   you could you could park there and go [TS]

00:09:46   get it [TS]

00:09:47   juice pack and come back to it leisurely [TS]

00:09:49   and then continue the game made by the [TS]

00:09:51   same guy who made the easy and raiders [TS]

00:09:53   of the lost ark oh yeah this is what he [TS]

00:09:56   can do when he has enough time okay well [TS]

00:09:59   that the artist revenge my memory of [TS]

00:10:01   that is that it was it like see said it [TS]

00:10:04   was so different from a lot of the 2600 [TS]

00:10:06   games that it was um I I'm always struck [TS]

00:10:10   that it was an Atari official and not [TS]

00:10:12   one of these like Activision games [TS]

00:10:14   because activision did lots of things to [TS]

00:10:16   kind of like subvert the way you usually [TS]

00:10:19   saw on on on a regular atari game and [TS]

00:10:22   but yours revenge was so different it [TS]

00:10:24   was it was it it felt very different [TS]

00:10:27   even though with an official Atari [TS]

00:10:29   cartridge yeah it also came with that [TS]

00:10:32   really cool little comic book to set the [TS]

00:10:34   scene finally about to experience its [TS]

00:10:36   nice rebug the things like adventure and [TS]

00:10:39   and yours revenge the effort that went [TS]

00:10:41   into them and Atari didn't credit in the [TS]

00:10:43   authors and that's one of the things [TS]

00:10:43   that caused Warren Robinett to put the [TS]

00:10:46   easter egg into adventure and then [TS]

00:10:48   eventually activision to break off as [TS]

00:10:49   they didn't think they were getting the [TS]

00:10:51   credit or the compensation that they [TS]

00:10:52   were do is the creators of these really [TS]

00:10:54   really popular works Steve kitchen and [TS]

00:10:57   the other activision guys took their [TS]

00:11:00   ball and yeah home [TS]

00:11:01   really i believe this developer actually [TS]

00:11:03   did put his initials in ET is an easter [TS]

00:11:05   egg which might have been not a very [TS]

00:11:06   good decision [TS]

00:11:07   yeah i'm glad that he spent his time on [TS]

00:11:09   that the are actually shows up at 1.2 I [TS]

00:11:12   think you can turn one of the flowers in [TS]

00:11:13   one of the many millions of pits that [TS]

00:11:15   you fall into at any moment into a yard [TS]

00:11:18   it flies out of the pit something that [TS]

00:11:19   you could actually do but the are good [TS]

00:11:22   in my version i took the animation of [TS]

00:11:24   the r and copied it pixel for pixel onto [TS]

00:11:28   the 8-bit but had twice the resolution [TS]

00:11:29   so i could make him smoother [TS]

00:11:32   oh nice smoother ya know [TS]

00:11:36   oh my god when someone says yars revenge [TS]

00:11:39   i think is that an episode of Star Trek [TS]

00:11:42   The Next Generation I missed I thought [TS]

00:11:45   that was what it was first and they [TS]

00:11:46   interacted answer's no no John syracuse [TS]

00:11:49   it's your turn [TS]

00:11:50   well I just can't believe this is gone [TS]

00:11:51   this long and no one is pick the obvious [TS]

00:11:53   but I didn't pick up the first pick up [TS]

00:11:55   here we let someone else do it but my [TS]

00:11:57   second pic has to be journey pass to be [TS]

00:12:00   left it for you [TS]

00:12:01   come on we left it for you are gonna say [TS]

00:12:03   i was never heard I didn't want you to [TS]

00:12:06   be angry i can say Matt I mean we did a [TS]

00:12:08   whole episode on it it's episode one [TS]

00:12:10   away to be uncomfortable for people who [TS]

00:12:11   want to listen way more about this i [TS]

00:12:14   called ocarina of time the best video [TS]

00:12:16   game of all time but journey has the [TS]

00:12:17   best quality to length ratio of all time [TS]

00:12:20   a more innuendo firstly they're throwing [TS]

00:12:27   kindling on the fire journey is it is a [TS]

00:12:29   very is a simple game if you look at it [TS]

00:12:30   but i think the game is extremely broad [TS]

00:12:33   and it's more about concepts and [TS]

00:12:35   feelings and it is about a little [TS]

00:12:36   triangular dude walking through desert [TS]

00:12:39   and I think it's abstract enough like it [TS]

00:12:42   is it's not abstract little square [TS]

00:12:43   adventure but in some ways it is because [TS]

00:12:45   it's so disconnected for anything we [TS]

00:12:47   really experienced that you're able to [TS]

00:12:49   engage with it emotionally in ways that [TS]

00:12:54   the individual players make concrete for [TS]

00:12:55   themselves you know what I mean and this [TS]

00:12:58   probably sounds ridiculous to non-gamers [TS]

00:13:00   and maybe it sounds difficult ridiculous [TS]

00:13:02   to some gamers who might be jaded or [TS]

00:13:04   have lost the sense of childlike wonder [TS]

00:13:06   I don't know you could be referring to [TS]

00:13:07   playing journey was one of the most [TS]

00:13:09   meaningful gaming experiences of my life [TS]

00:13:12   and it's its biggest part of the kind of [TS]

00:13:15   persistent prejudice against games that [TS]

00:13:17   if someone makes a similar statement [TS]

00:13:18   about a great book it will be met with [TS]

00:13:21   admiration [TS]

00:13:22   I mean you said about games people think [TS]

00:13:23   you're a loser but I stand by it and I [TS]

00:13:26   think that needs to change the idea that [TS]

00:13:27   all this book really meant something to [TS]

00:13:29   me and it's my favorite book Charlotte's [TS]

00:13:30   be clue [TS]

00:13:31   books are cool either well what people [TS]

00:13:33   say Michael this book is really [TS]

00:13:34   meaningful to me or whatever and people [TS]

00:13:36   like oh you must be a deep person said [TS]

00:13:38   the better video game you think you all [TS]

00:13:39   will you don't you know you don't have [TS]

00:13:41   loser you need a lot of cheetos exactly [TS]

00:13:43   so I i think that that whole concept is [TS]

00:13:46   to change and I think bernie is a a nice [TS]

00:13:48   maybe not the first but yet another step [TS]

00:13:50   in that direction towards the [TS]

00:13:52   destination of respect for games for [TS]

00:13:54   what it's worth the tiny sliver of my [TS]

00:13:55   childlike wonder that's left degrees [TS]

00:13:57   100-percent with you on this one [TS]

00:13:58   there you go i enjoy i enjoyed that game [TS]

00:14:01   a lot i borrowed someone's places and [TS]

00:14:03   three to play that game because John [TS]

00:14:04   siracusa told me i was listening to the [TS]

00:14:07   soundtrack just today in fact and it [TS]

00:14:11   always takes me back and I have played [TS]

00:14:12   that game I don't I I don't finish games [TS]

00:14:15   let alone play the multiple times and [TS]

00:14:17   I've done that with journey so quality [TS]

00:14:20   to length ratio Jason yep I that's a [TS]

00:14:22   good one [TS]

00:14:23   alright I am going to pick a and I'm [TS]

00:14:28   gonna go you know I don't love racing [TS]

00:14:31   games I don't entirely understand the [TS]

00:14:34   guy it's almost like a theme here and it [TS]

00:14:37   it's not intentional the super realistic [TS]

00:14:39   racing games like my iPad you can you [TS]

00:14:42   can play racing games that are you like [TS]

00:14:45   crazy simulations of cars and and and [TS]

00:14:48   racetracks and all that and you know [TS]

00:14:50   what that maybe it's because I I was [TS]

00:14:52   brought up on night driver on the HR [TS]

00:14:55   2682 why are they driving at night [TS]

00:14:57   because they're not enough graphics for [TS]

00:14:59   the daytime we can't do that so black is [TS]

00:15:02   cheaper to render its black and then [TS]

00:15:04   there's a tree there's a sign and the [TS]

00:15:07   dotted lines and that's all [TS]

00:15:09   so I realism not that important I [TS]

00:15:12   sometimes wonder i'm not i'm not sure i [TS]

00:15:15   may not have played any other console [TS]

00:15:18   that [TS]

00:15:18   you game for as many hours as I've [TS]

00:15:22   played mario kart wii so I'm gonna pick [TS]

00:15:27   mario kart wii it's not realistic in any [TS]

00:15:30   way and i don't care i love the variety [TS]

00:15:32   of the levels i love the game play with [TS]

00:15:34   the different power-ups i love that i [TS]

00:15:36   can play it with multiple people in the [TS]

00:15:40   house [TS]

00:15:41   uh I I can play with with the computer [TS]

00:15:45   opponents iie you know you're in the [TS]

00:15:49   different vehicles you you know i like [TS]

00:15:51   i'm doing like the manual with the [TS]

00:15:54   breaking and the bell on the bullet bike [TS]

00:15:56   is sort of my favorite and I'm really [TS]

00:15:58   good at that and i like that there are [TS]

00:15:59   some levels that I find incredibly easy [TS]

00:16:01   and I can win almost every time and [TS]

00:16:04   other levels that i will like literally [TS]

00:16:06   just die every 20 seconds and i'm [TS]

00:16:09   completely confused by after all this [TS]

00:16:11   time [TS]

00:16:12   rainbow road i'm looking at you and [TS]

00:16:15   they're actually a couple things parts [TS]

00:16:17   of of wreck-it Ralph that are assumed to [TS]

00:16:19   be direct quotes of level skin in a [TS]

00:16:23   Mario Kart which kind of blew me away [TS]

00:16:24   but I just it's replayable I can play [TS]

00:16:28   with my kids and it's a huge amount of [TS]

00:16:32   fun and I think that a lot of fun about [TS]

00:16:34   this that it's not it's not realistic in [TS]

00:16:38   anyway it's just fun and so I you know I [TS]

00:16:42   put mario kart wii that's that's it it [TS]

00:16:46   just fun [TS]

00:16:47   given your limited history of video [TS]

00:16:49   games jason i think you can be forgiven [TS]

00:16:50   for choosing the wrong memory card game [TS]

00:16:53   what is the right mark i would mario [TS]

00:16:55   kart double dash is the right now double [TS]

00:16:56   damages the correct i think it's it's [TS]

00:16:58   yeah I well that's well very [TS]

00:17:01   prescriptive I think you know we have to [TS]

00:17:03   find our own way to the rainbow road [TS]

00:17:04   there's always going to be the SNES [TS]

00:17:06   defenders but i'm going to go double [TS]

00:17:08   dash i would put the mario kart des [TS]

00:17:10   entry ahead of all of those I played a [TS]

00:17:13   lot of that too i think double dash [TS]

00:17:15   would be the the the classic though [TS]

00:17:17   well i have no experience with those [TS]

00:17:19   i've only played the wii version of the [TS]

00:17:20   wii version is delightful so i picked a [TS]

00:17:21   wii version is extremely delightful i [TS]

00:17:23   will agree with you on that [TS]

00:17:25   Jason your feelings are wrong and you're [TS]

00:17:26   wrong in the wii version it has many of [TS]

00:17:28   the best courses from the old ash [TS]

00:17:30   of all the courses from know that you [TS]

00:17:31   might have all of them is just like that [TS]

00:17:33   you know just is more waggling and they [TS]

00:17:35   changed the skidding dynamic and they [TS]

00:17:37   made the rubber banding more brutal and [TS]

00:17:39   Double Dash is the country and double [TS]

00:17:41   dash it gives you a two-player new [TS]

00:17:43   players in one car on the freaking blue [TS]

00:17:44   shell in mario kart wii is dreadful [TS]

00:17:47   it's in all the games yeah but in in [TS]

00:17:50   that one in particular seems like it's [TS]

00:17:51   particularly extra-spicy are we extra [TS]

00:17:54   black extra Shelly I got nothin [TS]

00:17:57   that's that's my that's that's what they [TS]

00:17:59   could pick pick [TS]

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00:19:09   lightning round Steve let's kick us off [TS]

00:19:11   tell us uh letting everyone ok I'll [TS]

00:19:14   speed through this one this is a game by [TS]

00:19:16   the greatest second party studio of all [TS]

00:19:18   time and that is nintendo 64 era [TS]

00:19:21   rareware ah it's conker's bad fur day is [TS]

00:19:26   a game that was announced as Congress [TS]

00:19:28   quest III it was a platformer featuring [TS]

00:19:31   the QT red squirrel conquer who is a [TS]

00:19:33   playable character on diddy kong racing [TS]

00:19:34   was clearly aimed at kids and then the [TS]

00:19:37   early screenshots kind of show this [TS]

00:19:38   cutie cartoony art style that looks like [TS]

00:19:40   it came from a TV show and preschoolers [TS]

00:19:43   and then somewhere during the four years [TS]

00:19:45   it was in development apparently the dev [TS]

00:19:47   team went insane and the end they said [TS]

00:19:51   to each others say what if instead of [TS]

00:19:53   conquer being a cheerful happy-go-lucky [TS]

00:19:55   kid friendly sap we make him a drunken [TS]

00:19:58   bastard and then we fill the rest of the [TS]

00:20:00   game with swearing and poop jokes [TS]

00:20:01   well they did yeah and the result is [TS]

00:20:05   magnificent it's like they made a game [TS]

00:20:07   just for me [TS]

00:20:08   yeah it is delightfully filthy it starts [TS]

00:20:12   off with conquer stumbling into a pub [TS]

00:20:14   called the cock and plucker and then it [TS]

00:20:15   goes steadily downhill from here that is [TS]

00:20:18   that is you in videogame form to there's [TS]

00:20:20   an extended sequence where conquer [TS]

00:20:22   drinks beer from kegs in order to lower [TS]

00:20:24   himself with ammo so that he can pee on [TS]

00:20:26   a group of flaming pimps I was gonna I [TS]

00:20:29   was gonna mention that was the one part [TS]

00:20:30   of the game I remember don't you get to [TS]

00:20:31   pee on people who are on fire now the [TS]

00:20:33   mind coming up you have to admit though [TS]

00:20:35   you you must remember the P physics [TS]

00:20:37   being a truly wondrous thing the the [TS]

00:20:40   implementation of the distri- and you're [TS]

00:20:42   aiming it'sit's kind of hoping you're [TS]

00:20:44   gonna go goldeneye something but now we [TS]

00:20:47   know in a way I did with yeah I know [TS]

00:20:49   where you did you're right this is the [TS]

00:20:51   innuendo show this week and then there's [TS]

00:20:53   the great mighty poo the best boss in [TS]

00:20:56   the history of video games he's a [TS]

00:20:58   gigantic opera singing turd with sweet [TS]

00:21:01   corn four teeth who attacks by hurling [TS]

00:21:03   chunks of himself at you [TS]

00:21:05   meanwhile the art style and the music [TS]

00:21:08   are still just this if it's still is [TS]

00:21:10   completely over-the-top cute stuff which [TS]

00:21:12   just makes the film all the more [TS]

00:21:13   hilarious but it's not entirely scat [TS]

00:21:16   humor the games also filled with a lot [TS]

00:21:17   of clever parodies of movies and gaming [TS]

00:21:20   conventions if it was entirely filth i [TS]

00:21:23   probably wouldn't nominate it but it [TS]

00:21:25   also is an incredibly fun game to play [TS]

00:21:28   there's this great variety in the [TS]

00:21:31   gameplay and one minute you're in [TS]

00:21:32   first-person shooter mode blasting dung [TS]

00:21:34   beetles to bits with a slingshot the [TS]

00:21:36   next you're playing a twisted version of [TS]

00:21:38   Donkey Kong where you dodge rolling [TS]

00:21:39   balls of poo instead of barrels it has [TS]

00:21:42   challenging bits but it's never horribly [TS]

00:21:44   frustrating it controls like a dream [TS]

00:21:47   even on the crappy n64 analog stick has [TS]

00:21:50   some of the best considering it came at [TS]

00:21:52   the end of the nintendo 64 his life [TS]

00:21:53   cycle is not surprising that it has some [TS]

00:21:55   of the best graphics I think that were [TS]

00:21:56   ever produced on the end [TS]

00:21:57   264 a wonderful dynamic soundtrack [TS]

00:22:00   including a great tune in dung beetle [TS]

00:22:02   and where the majestic farm is used as [TS]

00:22:04   an instrument to great effect i start to [TS]

00:22:08   finish I think this is probably the most [TS]

00:22:09   fun I've ever had playing a console game [TS]

00:22:12   and as such i select conker's bad fur [TS]

00:22:15   day thank you [TS]

00:22:17   Wow getting that everybody ocarina of [TS]

00:22:18   time that Congress bad for day two [TS]

00:22:21   thumbs up all conker's bad fur day is [TS]

00:22:23   great you know the problem with ocarina [TS]

00:22:25   times they had a guy on that group who [TS]

00:22:27   is like whoa too many poop jokes at [TS]

00:22:30   conkers bad fur day that guy did not [TS]

00:22:32   have a job and that probably would have [TS]

00:22:34   helped but as I pointed out conquer is [TS]

00:22:36   all about variety you never doing the [TS]

00:22:38   same thing twice and ocarina is the same [TS]

00:22:42   thing over and over again for the poop [TS]

00:22:43   jokes but the different poop jokes are [TS]

00:22:45   differently I you can go a long ways [TS]

00:22:47   with a poop joke had lasted 41 years [TS]

00:22:49   yeah there you go all right lightning [TS]

00:22:51   round we're moving on Tony [TS]

00:22:53   alright i'll actually be a lightning [TS]

00:22:54   round I'm going to also go for the n64 i [TS]

00:22:57   will draft goldeneye from 1997 this [TS]

00:23:00   could have been a crappy movie tie-in [TS]

00:23:02   game is tied into a crappy movie tied [TS]

00:23:05   into a crappy movie in fact it arrived [TS]

00:23:07   two years late it was came out in 1997 [TS]

00:23:09   move goldeneye the movie was 1995 so [TS]

00:23:12   it's very late for the movie tie-ins but [TS]

00:23:14   it managed to be kind of an amazing game [TS]

00:23:16   that kind of brought the first person [TS]

00:23:18   shooter experience that you know lots of [TS]

00:23:19   pc gamers that had to the console and [TS]

00:23:22   you know it has a so-so single-player [TS]

00:23:25   campaign that i played through a bunch [TS]

00:23:26   of times but probably the key feature of [TS]

00:23:28   it was the four player split screen [TS]

00:23:30   multiplayer with a bunch of different [TS]

00:23:33   maps and different game modes and you [TS]

00:23:35   know a lot of this was you know some [TS]

00:23:36   stuff we already kind of scene four [TS]

00:23:37   people were playing doom and things like [TS]

00:23:39   that but some of this was completely new [TS]

00:23:41   and and the really popular mode was on [TS]

00:23:44   the ability to plant their proximity [TS]

00:23:46   mines and I remotely controlled mines [TS]

00:23:49   which was kind of a new twist on the you [TS]

00:23:50   know just running around always shooting [TS]

00:23:51   at people and you know it is pretty [TS]

00:23:54   simple graphics for the time the [TS]

00:23:55   characters heads kinda look like squares [TS]

00:23:57   with kind of a picture pierce brosnan [TS]

00:24:00   superimposed on the square but at the [TS]

00:24:02   time i think it was really exciting and [TS]

00:24:04   I i played countless countless hours of [TS]

00:24:06   the the multiplayer experience of gold [TS]

00:24:09   alright that's me people [TS]

00:24:10   goldeneye that's better game than the [TS]

00:24:13   movie and you don't get to say that very [TS]

00:24:14   often is it's your turn [TS]

00:24:16   while rounding out my theme of adjective [TS]

00:24:20   noun titled games that involve pairs of [TS]

00:24:24   dudes going on on a side-scrolling quest [TS]

00:24:28   of some sort not a beat him up a [TS]

00:24:30   licensed game which i still own a [TS]

00:24:33   cartridge of the nintendo entertainment [TS]

00:24:35   systems may kids McDonald's jokey pic [TS]

00:24:43   McDonald's and eat it [TS]

00:24:45   hold on hold on mcdonalds had virgin [TS]

00:24:49   games developed this this side-scrolling [TS]

00:24:51   game where these two kids make and Mac I [TS]

00:24:55   think calling the white kid nick is a [TS]

00:24:57   little ping-pong if you ask me I think I [TS]

00:25:01   think we should really read examine the [TS]

00:25:02   the racism of early nineties nes games [TS]

00:25:05   who were sent by ronald mcdonald because [TS]

00:25:08   the creepy clown couldn't do this [TS]

00:25:09   himself to collect I i want to say they [TS]

00:25:13   were they were like like puzzle pieces [TS]

00:25:16   or something [TS]

00:25:17   the side-scrolling element of it that [TS]

00:25:19   made it unique at this point was that [TS]

00:25:22   there was this little thing that if you [TS]

00:25:24   held down the button ran to the end of a [TS]

00:25:26   platform it would flip the kid upside [TS]

00:25:28   down so it reverse gravity and it is so [TS]

00:25:32   surprising good platformer for something [TS]

00:25:35   that is a crass Lee fast-food branded [TS]

00:25:38   game released for at the time the [TS]

00:25:41   behemoth of home consoles and reviews [TS]

00:25:45   where you know people were like this is [TS]

00:25:47   this garbage sellout crap and there were [TS]

00:25:50   others that praised the platforming [TS]

00:25:52   elements of it I rented it when I was a [TS]

00:25:55   kid and was surprised that it wasn't [TS]

00:25:58   awful and kept it longer than you know [TS]

00:26:03   the regular two or three days or [TS]

00:26:04   whatever they gave you the grocery store [TS]

00:26:06   you know where you used to be able to [TS]

00:26:07   rent video games and then you found [TS]

00:26:10   yourself inexplicably craving the grip [TS]

00:26:12   well the crazy thing was I lived in a [TS]

00:26:15   suburb of dallas where they were [TS]

00:26:16   test-marketing the McStuffins for does [TS]

00:26:20   anybody know what the McStuffins is it's [TS]

00:26:22   on disney junior right [TS]

00:26:24   all right take a baguette hollow it out [TS]

00:26:27   and put meat and cheese and grease into [TS]

00:26:30   it so they would have like a pepperoni [TS]

00:26:32   pizza mix toughens and so when I found [TS]

00:26:37   myself going Wow mcdonalds I see it in a [TS]

00:26:39   whole new light [TS]

00:26:40   let's go to McDonald's mom there's this [TS]

00:26:42   weird thing that is crazier than the [TS]

00:26:45   mcrib on the menu I was like let's go to [TS]

00:26:48   Burger King mom [TS]

00:26:49   this place creeps me out there but the [TS]

00:26:51   game it really is surprisingly good and [TS]

00:26:53   it wouldn't seem that way from the way [TS]

00:26:55   that it's described and and believe it [TS]

00:26:58   or not it was reiterated into i want to [TS]

00:27:01   say master master system game called [TS]

00:27:04   global gladiators or something or [TS]

00:27:06   another with the same two leads but [TS]

00:27:09   completely unrecognizable compared to [TS]

00:27:11   the nes game the kids y'all I it is [TS]

00:27:16   better than spot the cool adventure [TS]

00:27:19   it is better than uh face the chuckwagon [TS]

00:27:22   fido dido fight is better than 50 Dido [TS]

00:27:24   is that game where you play as annoyed [TS]

00:27:27   but you know what I mean [TS]

00:27:29   yo annoyed yeah it's better than you [TS]

00:27:31   know it and it was released in europe [TS]

00:27:34   for our European incomparable listeners [TS]

00:27:36   as mcdonald land which is probably what [TS]

00:27:38   they just shouldn't call it i'm still [TS]

00:27:40   trying to get over mix toughens actually [TS]

00:27:43   that was everybody who ate them yeah [TS]

00:27:47   yeah yeah alright sounds delicious to me [TS]

00:27:51   Greg moss your turn i'm going to jump [TS]

00:27:54   all the way forward in time to the ps2 [TS]

00:27:56   whoa [TS]

00:27:57   whiplash yeah i know that i bought it [TS]

00:28:01   from a friend who was dumping it because [TS]

00:28:03   he was moving for ten dollars and it [TS]

00:28:04   included all of his games including [TS]

00:28:07   shadow of the classes and all of the [TS]

00:28:09   saved games on his memory cartridges [TS]

00:28:11   which is how my kids stumbled across a [TS]

00:28:13   savegame for lego star wars named Jake [TS]

00:28:15   big cock [TS]

00:28:18   wow they got one that's somewhere and [TS]

00:28:22   I'm going to choose burnout three [TS]

00:28:23   revenge and the reason i'm choosing it [TS]

00:28:25   is because it was just a hell of a lot [TS]

00:28:27   of fun my kids for five years ago my [TS]

00:28:30   wife and I would sit around the TV [TS]

00:28:31   taking 45 minute long turns just [TS]

00:28:34   smashing the hell out of cars and in [TS]

00:28:37   when you crashed in that game it would [TS]

00:28:39   go into a slow motion of your car being [TS]

00:28:44   destroyed or your opponent's car being [TS]

00:28:45   destroyed and it was just tons of fun [TS]

00:28:47   and we spent nights and nights and [TS]

00:28:50   nights playing this game together as a [TS]

00:28:52   family [TS]

00:28:53   screw you haters destruction it brings [TS]

00:28:55   the whole family together so that's a no [TS]

00:28:58   we played on the ps1 what's the game [TS]

00:29:01   where all you do is smash of the cars [TS]

00:29:03   and there's a killer clown who tries to [TS]

00:29:04   kill you first met listed metal oh my [TS]

00:29:07   god I cannot tell you how much time I [TS]

00:29:09   spent playing that game and it's just [TS]

00:29:11   you know it's just ridiculous [TS]

00:29:13   destruction but fun instructions good [TS]

00:29:17   video game destruction [TS]

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00:31:08   comfortable John what do you have [TS]

00:31:10   I continue to be disappointed that no [TS]

00:31:12   one is stealing these things finally [TS]

00:31:14   someone stole shadow of the colossus but [TS]

00:31:15   anyway yes number three it has to be and [TS]

00:31:17   I can't believe it's a testament to the [TS]

00:31:19   quality of recent games this is pushed [TS]

00:31:20   out number three Super Mario 64 the most [TS]

00:31:24   important game with the Apple I on my [TS]

00:31:25   list or any of your list for that matter [TS]

00:31:27   I the yeah their biggest take the [TS]

00:31:31   biggest technological change in the [TS]

00:31:33   history of video games incontestably was [TS]

00:31:35   the change from 2d to 3d and Mary 64 was [TS]

00:31:38   the first great 3d game I cause all the [TS]

00:31:41   games [TS]

00:31:42   yeah what's the console this is the [TS]

00:31:43   console game draft it's not [TS]

00:31:45   yes if these computers you check on to [TS]

00:31:47   pretend that there are no computer games [TS]

00:31:49   in his grand other all actually even if [TS]

00:31:51   you want to include like first-person [TS]

00:31:52   shooters and stuff i think mary 64 [TS]

00:31:54   fulfilled the promise of 3d it in a way [TS]

00:31:56   that first person shooters didn't [TS]

00:31:58   because it like instead of like looking [TS]

00:32:00   through a porthole you finally got to [TS]

00:32:02   see like the whole world to give an [TS]

00:32:03   example one of the things you can [TS]

00:32:04   experience to marry 64 there was much [TS]

00:32:06   more difficult to express in a [TS]

00:32:07   first-person shooter type scenario was [TS]

00:32:08   the joy of flight or the fun of like [TS]

00:32:11   yeah because if you try to flight in the [TS]

00:32:13   first person in the game it's something [TS]

00:32:14   you know you're in a flight simulator [TS]

00:32:15   it's not the same thing as being able to [TS]

00:32:17   see the world around you and flying and [TS]

00:32:19   like the with the way they manage to [TS]

00:32:20   pull that off and mario 64 it felt more [TS]

00:32:24   like your dreams of flying then it felt [TS]

00:32:27   like I'm playing microsoft flight [TS]

00:32:28   simulator with a gun sticking out of my [TS]

00:32:30   abdomen or something and platform the [TS]

00:32:32   same thing like what's fun about jumping [TS]

00:32:34   with all the 2d games you know its [TS]

00:32:35   funder or in sideways scrolling jump [TS]

00:32:37   jump [TS]

00:32:37   this was a game that line 3ds like you [TS]

00:32:39   can't do jumping three because how [TS]

00:32:41   people even tell what the hell they're [TS]

00:32:42   landing on it will make no sense and all [TS]

00:32:44   that joy of of super mario brothers in [TS]

00:32:46   super mario world and all these other [TS]

00:32:48   games it will be gone because people [TS]

00:32:50   wouldn't be trying to land on things not [TS]

00:32:51   being able to control and they pulled it [TS]

00:32:53   off they figured out jumping in 3d is [TS]

00:32:55   fun doing back flips onto platforms you [TS]

00:32:57   know the third dimension all that stuff [TS]

00:32:59   can actually work and up until that [TS]

00:33:00   point it wasn't clear that that was the [TS]

00:33:02   case it's like okay well you can do [TS]

00:33:04   first-person shooters [TS]

00:33:05   flight simulators but you're not going [TS]

00:33:07   to make a little guy running around jump [TS]

00:33:08   on platforms gonna be so frustrating but [TS]

00:33:10   they pulled it off and that that's the [TS]

00:33:11   template for the entire rest of the [TS]

00:33:14   console 3d third-person video game genre [TS]

00:33:17   from that point on is not part of the [TS]

00:33:19   problem with the third person 3d video [TS]

00:33:23   game consoles genre that wasn't a [TS]

00:33:25   problem it was very 64 came out did it [TS]

00:33:27   right [TS]

00:33:28   many other games followed his footsteps [TS]

00:33:29   and tried to do it took a long time for [TS]

00:33:32   any games even through the basics as [TS]

00:33:34   well as married remember that they're [TS]

00:33:35   saying back then was the Mary 64 camera [TS]

00:33:38   sucks but it's still the best camera and [TS]

00:33:40   you know like in the industry everyone [TS]

00:33:42   complains about it but it's better than [TS]

00:33:43   all the other cameras and I was true for [TS]

00:33:45   a long time i was amazed by super mario [TS]

00:33:48   64 when it came out as as anybody else [TS]

00:33:51   and I thought it was a fantastic game [TS]

00:33:52   and i love it at the time and I just [TS]

00:33:56   tried to play recently and it's it's [TS]

00:33:58   frankly unplayable now least at least [TS]

00:34:00   with the n64 stick i still think it's [TS]

00:34:03   great i mean that but sure what shows on [TS]

00:34:06   it is that it you know the things that [TS]

00:34:07   we have polished up at our camera [TS]

00:34:09   control and Mario itself did camera [TS]

00:34:10   control better and each subsequent marry [TS]

00:34:12   again for the point where now galaxy the [TS]

00:34:13   cameras practically invisible you never [TS]

00:34:15   worry about it it's practically perfect [TS]

00:34:16   but Mike takes a long time to build up [TS]

00:34:18   to that so with the accept but with the [TS]

00:34:20   exception of character level design and [TS]

00:34:21   the way you get to do all these fun [TS]

00:34:23   things in this game they figured out a [TS]

00:34:25   way to make America game in three it was [TS]

00:34:27   fun we not making it like we just take [TS]

00:34:29   the 2-d game and flip it into 3d because [TS]

00:34:30   that wouldn't work and you know all all [TS]

00:34:32   the different things that you can do [TS]

00:34:34   they tried to sliding levels the snow [TS]

00:34:35   levels where it's slippery and of course [TS]

00:34:37   the typical lava world in the La lava [TS]

00:34:40   world that stuff that they I think they [TS]

00:34:42   did an amazing job of converting game 3d [TS]

00:34:44   without simply taking it the 2d one [TS]

00:34:46   extruding it which would not have worked [TS]

00:34:48   at all think I'm just getting old but I [TS]

00:34:50   can't deal with that camera anymore [TS]

00:34:51   make some noise when you reposition I [TS]

00:34:55   started playing again like a couple of [TS]

00:34:58   weeks ago and I've come so close to [TS]

00:35:00   destroying my my one and only n64 [TS]

00:35:02   controller so many times in that two [TS]

00:35:04   weeks largely because of a lethal lava [TS]

00:35:07   land [TS]

00:35:08   oh my god i have a lot of games in my [TS]

00:35:10   house but they won Game my six-year-old [TS]

00:35:12   daughter asks to play as she wants [TS]

00:35:14   supply she doesn't know the name but she [TS]

00:35:15   wants the primary 64 over all the other [TS]

00:35:17   you know I had [TS]

00:35:18   2d Mario's 3d on the wii on the Gamecube [TS]

00:35:21   you know PlayStation games the whole [TS]

00:35:23   nine yards [TS]

00:35:24   things like Hello Kitty and I'm it's [TS]

00:35:25   mario 64 that she wants to play mostly [TS]

00:35:27   because she just likes to run around [TS]

00:35:28   outside the castle and climb the trees [TS]

00:35:30   and see the butterflies and stuff like [TS]

00:35:31   that and the graphics are totally not [TS]

00:35:33   impressive i have to think that even at [TS]

00:35:34   six you can tell this is not look like [TS]

00:35:36   the other amazing HD games that we have [TS]

00:35:38   but it's fine it's just fun i love the [TS]

00:35:41   game so much i actually tried the d/s [TS]

00:35:43   remake oh god yeah I had the DSP make of [TS]

00:35:47   it to it something is lost [TS]

00:35:50   I mean it's also I think that's like not [TS]

00:35:51   a good not a madman Yoshi yeah it's also [TS]

00:35:53   not a great game to play on a tank top [TS]

00:35:54   of the castle 13 stars on the 1i think [TS]

00:35:57   the one gaming moment from this thing I [TS]

00:35:59   don't know if I brought up my show [TS]

00:36:00   before but if I have you want to hear it [TS]

00:36:01   again is since people were so amazed by [TS]

00:36:04   the three dienes of Mary 64-bit this [TS]

00:36:07   amazing moment is very few of them into [TS]

00:36:09   kind of a perfectly like Mary like [TS]

00:36:10   you're going to go through each level [TS]

00:36:11   you going to stop people get stars [TS]

00:36:12   whatever but one of the amazing moments [TS]

00:36:14   is that as you explore the castle and [TS]

00:36:16   gotten a bunch of stars at a certain [TS]

00:36:19   point if you're lucky and I was you will [TS]

00:36:21   naturally find yourself looking around [TS]

00:36:23   the castle kind of in awe and once you [TS]

00:36:25   realize how to use the camera control to [TS]

00:36:27   look around and you're like what is like [TS]

00:36:28   what else is in this room who have gone [TS]

00:36:30   through that door have gone through that [TS]

00:36:31   door have done those things what else is [TS]

00:36:32   around here and you look around you look [TS]

00:36:33   up at the top of the other in the foyer [TS]

00:36:35   of the castle the top of the ceiling is [TS]

00:36:37   a little medallion on the ceiling with [TS]

00:36:39   like a starburst on it and when you look [TS]

00:36:41   into the starburst like light comes out [TS]

00:36:43   of it and it fades out and you enter the [TS]

00:36:45   flying level just you know organically [TS]

00:36:47   by you looking around because it's fun [TS]

00:36:49   to look around in a 3d world that [TS]

00:36:50   probably doesn't work with modern gamers [TS]

00:36:51   who that is going to look around like [TS]

00:36:53   that because they're not in all of the [TS]

00:36:55   amazing graphics that are showing their [TS]

00:36:56   butt on the n64 i was in all the amazing [TS]

00:36:59   graphics and I was looking around [TS]

00:37:00   because it's fun to look around and get [TS]

00:37:01   the reward for doing that was you get to [TS]

00:37:03   fly i have fond memories of that game [TS]

00:37:05   also because it was at a time you know [TS]

00:37:07   pre wikipedia where you can look up the [TS]

00:37:09   definitive answers to things there were [TS]

00:37:11   lots of urban legends around games of [TS]

00:37:13   that time I remember what the big ones [TS]

00:37:14   in that was that there were through some [TS]

00:37:16   elaborate series of events you could you [TS]

00:37:18   could be Luigi and they would be like [TS]

00:37:20   slightly doctored screenshots of it and [TS]

00:37:22   the free photoshop today is we you know [TS]

00:37:24   that would be like printed in magazines [TS]

00:37:26   and things like that it's likely clearly [TS]

00:37:27   cannot be luigi you know I realize have [TS]

00:37:30   not grown up with like i said earlier [TS]

00:37:32   have not grown up with Nintendo started [TS]

00:37:34   22 yeah so I'm i missed me ya missed [TS]

00:37:37   this whole i missed this whole lot [TS]

00:37:39   shorter but my kids my kids first video [TS]

00:37:42   game consoles the wii and so they know [TS]

00:37:46   all of the Mario and all the Nintendo [TS]

00:37:51   characters and I I'm fascinated by that [TS]

00:37:55   because and this is one of things and [TS]

00:37:56   intelligence that that's great is that [TS]

00:37:58   they have this because it's like a band [TS]

00:38:01   of respiratory players wreck they're [TS]

00:38:03   willing to be in a side-scroller they're [TS]

00:38:05   willing to play tennis they're playing [TS]

00:38:06   right and drive guards will play soccer [TS]

00:38:08   if you want their they're ready [TS]

00:38:10   the place to play baseball mario mario [TS]

00:38:12   super sluggers man we put they are you [TS]

00:38:16   know it's amazing and so they end and [TS]

00:38:18   yeah it's up [TS]

00:38:20   yeah my kids know all those characters [TS]

00:38:23   so well done nintendo i guess for from [TS]

00:38:25   brainwashing my children good job [TS]

00:38:27   all right I'm gonna go and I i have a [TS]

00:38:33   couple of atari 2600 uh things on my [TS]

00:38:37   list and i'm not going to pick them [TS]

00:38:38   greatness was a very nice fellow and [TS]

00:38:40   sent me in the mail a couple years ago [TS]

00:38:43   an original superman cartridge for Atari [TS]

00:38:46   and I could play that I dad that is [TS]

00:38:49   maybe the game I mastered the most my [TS]

00:38:51   entire life as sad as that is to say I [TS]

00:38:54   could beat Superman like a minute it was [TS]

00:38:56   amazing but I'm not gonna pick it i'm [TS]

00:38:58   going to pick the reason the game that's [TS]

00:39:00   the reason that i bought next box which [TS]

00:39:02   is halo I was on my list i love the halo [TS]

00:39:04   I like the setting i like the it was the [TS]

00:39:08   first shooter that I had played that had [TS]

00:39:11   the fun vehicle interaction there was an [TS]

00:39:15   unfortunate trend after that were like [TS]

00:39:17   everything had to have vehicles grafted [TS]

00:39:21   onto in horrible ways even 3rd person [TS]

00:39:23   games like massive aqui ya half-life [TS]

00:39:25   half-life 2 has a horrible section we [TS]

00:39:28   have to drive a dune buggy right it's [TS]

00:39:29   clear that i love the dune buggy and [TS]

00:39:31   elegant we talking about your mistake [TS]

00:39:33   love it the dune buggy is awful it is [TS]

00:39:34   clearly about somebody saw like oh man [TS]

00:39:37   you get to drive a warthog [TS]

00:39:38   running low get-get on a dune buggy or [TS]

00:39:40   something because we need we need what [TS]

00:39:41   we need one hour required of carbon no [TS]

00:39:44   driving vehicle thing or kids will buy [TS]

00:39:46   this it's totally grafted on doesn't fit [TS]

00:39:49   so I i love the vehicles and i love that [TS]

00:39:53   they're the ground-based vehicles and [TS]

00:39:54   the air vehicles and I in in multiplayer [TS]

00:39:58   I mean it just changes it's like you're [TS]

00:40:00   playing it adds that other dimension in [TS]

00:40:03   the multiplayer where you've got the [TS]

00:40:05   ability to the the amount of multiplayer [TS]

00:40:09   time I spent with halo 2 that you know [TS]

00:40:11   you you're in the air or on the ground [TS]

00:40:13   uh on a ground vehicle or you are moving [TS]

00:40:15   around by foot and the fact that those [TS]

00:40:17   have all all different advantages and [TS]

00:40:19   disadvantages a lot of fun and even in [TS]

00:40:21   the single-player campaign having those [TS]

00:40:24   moments where you get into it was just [TS]

00:40:26   for me it was it was it was a revelation [TS]

00:40:28   was like oh wait you mean I can drive [TS]

00:40:32   the car now or I can get in the back and [TS]

00:40:33   just kind of fire with the term while [TS]

00:40:34   someone else is driving just added a [TS]

00:40:36   whole other layer 2 I different food [TS]

00:40:39   first person shooters and i like i like [TS]

00:40:41   to sci-fi story line to of course the [TS]

00:40:44   Ringworld that they're on and and and [TS]

00:40:46   they did killer aliens that you're [TS]

00:40:48   fighting and as somebody who is a [TS]

00:40:49   marathon fan from way back and played [TS]

00:40:52   all the marathon and marathon to [TS]

00:40:54   marathon infinity [TS]

00:40:55   I like that too that it was you know it [TS]

00:40:58   was familiar in that way to and since [TS]

00:41:01   the bunch of guys were were only going [TS]

00:41:03   to be they got bought by microsoft [TS]

00:41:04   they're only the xbox i bought next box [TS]

00:41:08   so I can play it and it's a it's a fun [TS]

00:41:11   game i had i had halo 1 on the mac to [TS]

00:41:14   and then obviously after that it was all [TS]

00:41:16   all xbox and you know when i bought my [TS]

00:41:18   xbox 360 first thing about was a the [TS]

00:41:21   latest ale ale game so you know i love [TS]

00:41:25   it but the vehicles thing is the thing [TS]

00:41:26   that really put it over the top for me [TS]

00:41:28   that was really cool and yeah it's kind [TS]

00:41:29   of been done now but at the time that [TS]

00:41:31   was uh that was a really awesome [TS]

00:41:33   addition so i really like the fact that [TS]

00:41:34   you can either drive or you could take [TS]

00:41:36   the turret yeah that was a nice when I [TS]

00:41:39   also like when you're driving the the [TS]

00:41:43   enemy vehicles that may have that the [TS]

00:41:44   little uh like one person for the [TS]

00:41:46   skimmer like landspeeder kind of thing [TS]

00:41:48   that you're driving around that was that [TS]

00:41:49   was kind of a fun vehicle to and then [TS]

00:41:51   when you're [TS]

00:41:51   when you're flying that was also a lot [TS]

00:41:53   of fun to fly around but I remember that [TS]

00:41:56   is being one of the first games that i [TS]

00:41:58   was like waiting for that there was [TS]

00:42:00   actually liked video of the gameplay [TS]

00:42:01   that you would see on the internet as [TS]

00:42:03   opposed to like before that you would be [TS]

00:42:05   like reading like pc gamer and it would [TS]

00:42:06   be like the screenshots of games you'd [TS]

00:42:08   have to go to prevent what it would be [TS]

00:42:09   like to play them but unfortunately i [TS]

00:42:11   remember the video like even from one of [TS]

00:42:13   the steve jobs keynote swear he was [TS]

00:42:15   talking about how awesome [TS]

00:42:16   halo would be and then you know yeah [TS]

00:42:18   that's what that's why I wanted to play [TS]

00:42:20   it on the mac yeah you're purest no not [TS]

00:42:23   appear is because the mac part was [TS]

00:42:24   terrible but i really was so I was so [TS]

00:42:27   angry that they took that with Microsoft [TS]

00:42:29   took that away from us yep it was like [TS]

00:42:30   there it was like the final act of an [TS]

00:42:31   evil giant this is why we can't think [TS]

00:42:33   it's true it's true i'm looking forward [TS]

00:42:35   to destiny now that now that those guys [TS]

00:42:37   have bought their freedom from microsoft [TS]

00:42:39   and destiny is going to be released on [TS]

00:42:40   PlayStation and Xbox so did you play a [TS]

00:42:44   halo 4 i have played some of it i have I [TS]

00:42:47   i have it on my 360 yeah I played it all [TS]

00:42:51   the way it's a little I feel like that [TS]

00:42:52   doesn't like a metroid prime for I don't [TS]

00:42:56   know I don't know but it's kinda there's [TS]

00:42:58   not a lot more of the same but i never [TS]

00:43:00   played a lot more I think I never played [TS]

00:43:02   ODST halo yeah I never played ODST i [TS]

00:43:06   played all of them and yeah i mean [TS]

00:43:09   they're great they're enjoyable but [TS]

00:43:10   they're they're recycling a lot now that [TS]

00:43:12   the amount of new stuff for the amount [TS]

00:43:14   that you're just experiencing it over is [TS]

00:43:16   it's a diminishing returns as they go [TS]

00:43:17   deeper in the pile I guess what [TS]

00:43:19   seriously who plays first person games [TS]

00:43:21   on a consolation I jump I jump from Halo [TS]

00:43:23   2 halo 4 and so for me it was like I had [TS]

00:43:25   a lot of catching up to do [TS]

00:43:26   so yes it looks exciting i'm hoping they [TS]

00:43:28   do you mean here's some cool stuff and I [TS]

00:43:29   get to be fair a halo 4 is not actually [TS]

00:43:32   was with that bungee or was that that [TS]

00:43:34   was no Lee know that's that's their own [TS]

00:43:37   343 out of you [TS]

00:43:38   yeah yeah that was the deal [TS]

00:43:42   that's how about their freedom is that [TS]

00:43:43   the intellectual property 4x4 for halo [TS]

00:43:46   stays with Microsoft but they can run [TS]

00:43:48   away with bungie studios make their own [TS]

00:43:50   camp so anyway so that's the that's the [TS]

00:43:54   end of the draft [TS]

00:43:55   oh my god around this is a travesty you [TS]

00:43:57   have at least Justine a six they would [TS]

00:44:01   what is that we should let us at least [TS]

00:44:02   Neymar titles of all right all right [TS]

00:44:04   we'll do one more round but first a word [TS]

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00:44:15   all the spam and all the viruses which I [TS]

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00:44:38   the little guy is fine at mail route [TS]

00:44:41   mail routes whole focus is delivering [TS]

00:44:43   clean email the stuff you want to see [TS]

00:44:45   and saving you from the stuff you don't [TS]

00:44:48   and it's got a super simple interface [TS]

00:44:50   they've built the interface and tools [TS]

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00:45:23   provider at all it passes the mail [TS]

00:45:26   through filters out the junk so you only [TS]

00:45:28   see the good stuff and one of my [TS]

00:45:30   favorite features is they have the [TS]

00:45:31   configurable alerts that tell you what [TS]

00:45:33   they filtered out and their little [TS]

00:45:34   hyperlinks in there you click on them to [TS]

00:45:36   deliver the message if it turns out it [TS]

00:45:37   wasn't spam and you do want to see it [TS]

00:45:39   you can even click and one-click trains [TS]

00:45:42   mail route to send that message through [TS]

00:45:44   the next time it gets it very cool it [TS]

00:45:45   took me one minute to explain that to my [TS]

00:45:47   mom and she's never asked again she's [TS]

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00:45:54   you so much to mail route for once again [TS]

00:45:56   sponsoring the incomparable okay I'll [TS]

00:45:58   tell you what let's do it let's do a [TS]

00:45:59   fourth-round but you just have to do [TS]

00:46:01   just get you another 30 seconds just got [TS]

00:46:03   30 seconds yeah alright Steve go ahead [TS]

00:46:05   say it's okay my 32nd pic is silent hill [TS]

00:46:08   their horror games before silent hill [TS]

00:46:10   but silent hill was the first to really [TS]

00:46:11   do it right [TS]

00:46:12   I you know the resident evil games are [TS]

00:46:15   more of a visceral dogs jumping through [TS]

00:46:16   the windows sort of horror and Silent [TS]

00:46:18   Hill is really more of a psychological [TS]

00:46:19   horror about an ever mounting sense of [TS]

00:46:21   dread that just endlessly ratchets up as [TS]

00:46:23   the game goes on [TS]

00:46:24   yes technically clunky but i think it [TS]

00:46:28   actually turns all of its weaknesses [TS]

00:46:29   into strengths and you know I strongly [TS]

00:46:32   consider picking silent hill 2 because [TS]

00:46:34   that also is fantastic but it's never [TS]

00:46:36   really scary and this one genuinely is a [TS]

00:46:39   frightening game also have to throw out [TS]

00:46:41   a shout out to a Carioca whose music is [TS]

00:46:45   the best music I've ever heard in the [TS]

00:46:47   video game barn on period [TS]

00:46:50   alright Tony and won game 4 30 seconds [TS]

00:46:52   as many games like one game [TS]

00:46:54   ok i will go to 2 rocket for for the [TS]

00:46:57   dreamcast from the year 2000 the [TS]

00:47:00   dreamcast would be my favorite console [TS]

00:47:02   of all time um I remember buying a [TS]

00:47:04   dreamcast with my college roommate when [TS]

00:47:06   the dreamcast was like being [TS]

00:47:07   discontinued and it was you get it for [TS]

00:47:09   like incredibly cheap i think it was [TS]

00:47:10   like 75 bucks and we bought pretty much [TS]

00:47:12   the entire dreamcast library of games [TS]

00:47:14   also because there weren't very many 22 [TS]

00:47:17   rocket is that a kind of bizarre awesome [TS]

00:47:19   japanese puzzle game where the [TS]

00:47:21   single-player you can replace arrows and [TS]

00:47:22   you have to leave mice into space ships [TS]

00:47:24   so that they can go to the moon but you [TS]

00:47:25   have to keep the cats that are following [TS]

00:47:27   the mice out of the spaceships because [TS]

00:47:28   they eat the mice but then it has this [TS]

00:47:30   incredibly frenetic multiplayer mode [TS]

00:47:32   with us you know you play with up to [TS]

00:47:34   four players and for spaceships and [TS]

00:47:36   replacing arrows to try and bring my [TS]

00:47:37   stew your spaceship and bring cats to [TS]

00:47:40   your other people and this game turns [TS]

00:47:42   people into animals in ways that I've [TS]

00:47:44   never seen I've never heard as violent [TS]

00:47:47   and Falmouth's wearing as I've heard [TS]

00:47:49   from people playing 22 rocket even [TS]

00:47:51   people who should know better [TS]

00:47:53   sochi rocket is a great game and the [TS]

00:47:56   dreamcast was a great system and that's [TS]

00:47:58   what I'm going with [TS]

00:47:59   all right track of time voice s number [TS]

00:48:02   what's your Quick Pick teenage mutant [TS]

00:48:04   ninja turtles to the arcade game for the [TS]

00:48:05   nes because it was a weird attempt to [TS]

00:48:09   crunch the ninja turtles arcade game [TS]

00:48:11   into an nes size package and it still [TS]

00:48:14   actually worked pretty well I own that [TS]

00:48:16   game and when when you combine the price [TS]

00:48:18   of that cartridge with the amount of [TS]

00:48:19   quarters i spent in the arcade the small [TS]

00:48:22   fortune that game separated me from is [TS]

00:48:24   incalculable Greg what do you have [TS]

00:48:27   i am going to choose a game that is also [TS]

00:48:29   a console in itself Atari super pong was [TS]

00:48:32   the home version of the arcade palm i [TS]

00:48:35   found one in a goodwill for five bucks [TS]

00:48:38   at about 15 years ago when I bought it [TS]

00:48:40   and the D batteries to make it run cost [TS]

00:48:43   more than the consulate yeah but I set [TS]

00:48:46   it up at a party that night and of the [TS]

00:48:48   four different pong variations we played [TS]

00:48:51   it for hours [TS]

00:48:52   great fun from a simpler time [TS]

00:48:56   nice John what about you are my last pic [TS]

00:48:59   is predictably eco I and very mention of [TS]

00:49:03   the classes from the same makers this is [TS]

00:49:05   a sign for maybe another world also [TS]

00:49:07   known as out-of-this-world i think in [TS]

00:49:08   the US this was the first party game [TS]

00:49:10   that I played and it grabbed me in ways [TS]

00:49:12   that games with much fancier pedigree [TS]

00:49:14   didn't from like well-known makers I i [TS]

00:49:17   wrote an article about our technical [TS]

00:49:18   couple years ago and the best part of [TS]

00:49:20   their masterpiece video series if you [TS]

00:49:21   want to hear me talk about this more you [TS]

00:49:23   can read that maybe Jason put in the [TS]

00:49:25   shots I i think it stands out because [TS]

00:49:27   the developers had such different [TS]

00:49:29   priorities than their peers did they [TS]

00:49:31   focused all their energy on one or two [TS]

00:49:33   things a animation lighting atmosphere [TS]

00:49:36   and all that they did extremely well and [TS]

00:49:40   in particular the sort of consistent non [TS]

00:49:43   chip-based level design it was an actual [TS]

00:49:45   castle instead of a bunch of World box [TS]

00:49:47   pens connected by magic portals and it [TS]

00:49:51   really stands out as a place that I can [TS]

00:49:52   remember being despite just having seen [TS]

00:49:55   on TV screen [TS]

00:49:56   Jason still hasn't finished this game [TS]

00:49:57   although he has it so I don't want to [TS]

00:49:58   ruin the ending but suffice it to say [TS]

00:50:00   that ego was my journey before journey [TS]

00:50:02   existed [TS]

00:50:03   alright like that you mention out of [TS]

00:50:04   this world that is one of my favorite pc [TS]

00:50:06   games and since i already mentioned [TS]

00:50:11   Superman i'm not going to pick it [TS]

00:50:12   instead i'm going to pick the 20 atari [TS]

00:50:15   2600 game i played the most which is the [TS]

00:50:18   entire e26 a report of space invaders I [TS]

00:50:21   cannot tell you how many god I mean you [TS]

00:50:26   talk about wasting your life as such [TS]

00:50:28   hold space invaders space invaders at [TS]

00:50:31   the first port that was actually better [TS]

00:50:33   than the arcade game [TS]

00:50:34   yeah i mean i had the pacman cartridge [TS]

00:50:37   and that was so much worse although [TS]

00:50:40   except for one thing which was it once [TS]

00:50:42   you had it knocked you did not pay my [TS]

00:50:46   doctor just not creating enough it was [TS]

00:50:48   really more yeah but uh space invaders [TS]

00:50:52   misc was a great re 2600 game it wasn't [TS]

00:50:55   just a popular arcade game as an a 2600 [TS]

00:50:58   game it was great and I played it for [TS]

00:51:01   efforts and Leslie played that game and [TS]

00:51:04   you know and damn damage the pace that [TS]

00:51:07   don't did did did did did did as that [TS]

00:51:12   it's been up and the space invaders came [TS]

00:51:14   to lower and did you ever do the double [TS]

00:51:16   shot hack no yeah if you hold the couple [TS]

00:51:20   of the difficulty buttons down on the [TS]

00:51:22   2600 and turn the power on you can fire [TS]

00:51:24   two bullets the same time sweet baby i [TS]

00:51:26   did do that actually that does sound [TS]

00:51:27   familiar [TS]

00:51:28   it's based on the strength of the space [TS]

00:51:30   invaders asteroid was my favorite arcade [TS]

00:51:32   game at the time and so I actually [TS]

00:51:34   bought a black-market VCS 2600 asteroids [TS]

00:51:39   before it came out it was the sears [TS]

00:51:40   edition and the serial number had been [TS]

00:51:42   scratched off and i paid like 75 bucks [TS]

00:51:46   which was like all i had from my [TS]

00:51:48   newspaper route and I was so bitterly [TS]

00:51:51   bitterly disappointed not not not the [TS]

00:51:56   first time and not the last video games [TS]

00:51:58   video games i should say so damn boring [TS]

00:52:01   or video k and more and couldn't be here [TS]

00:52:03   and so let's let's walk through what he [TS]

00:52:05   would have selected over done with the [TS]

00:52:07   abused elders and onto the abused and [TS]

00:52:10   yeah we should we should we get to say I [TS]

00:52:11   remain helpless titles only for you let [TS]

00:52:13   me know i'm going to talk about Dan and [TS]

00:52:15   then and then and then you guys can [TS]

00:52:16   throw your you're letting dance picture [TS]

00:52:19   off the tape out there so so mario kart [TS]

00:52:20   64 was his first pick and 64 version of [TS]

00:52:24   mario kart which would have driven me to [TS]

00:52:26   not pick mario kart wii he then shoot [TS]

00:52:29   would have chosen red red dead [TS]

00:52:31   redemption on the xbox 360 that's kind [TS]

00:52:33   of a pc game [TS]

00:52:34   yeah then he would have been really [TS]

00:52:36   angry that Tony picked goldeneye because [TS]

00:52:39   he would have picked go by so he would [TS]

00:52:41   have gone to his next election but sadly [TS]

00:52:43   Tony already picked Super Mario Brothers [TS]

00:52:45   3 so he would have had to move onto [TS]

00:52:48   bushido blade for the poet's one [TS]

00:52:50   that's a classic fighter game very [TS]

00:52:52   different if you could hit people with [TS]

00:52:54   one foot if you did it right its kind of [TS]

00:52:56   sitting stylized samurai fighting game [TS]

00:52:58   was that was classic and his 32nd pic [TS]

00:53:00   would have been baseball stars on the [TS]

00:53:02   nes oh boy on the NES not the Neo Geo [TS]

00:53:06   well their baseball stars for the nest [TS]

00:53:08   what Dan says in his email baseball [TS]

00:53:10   starts to cousin Eugene because he's you [TS]

00:53:12   know at Disneyland [TS]

00:53:14   okay who has a let's let's do the clear [TS]

00:53:17   out whatever else is on your list [TS]

00:53:18   Steve do you have anything else that you [TS]

00:53:20   didn't mention that you want to just [TS]

00:53:21   mention now in past I had a crapload of [TS]

00:53:23   stuff i will just speed through it first [TS]

00:53:24   Super Mario Brothers I grand theft auto [TS]

00:53:28   3 ghouls and ghosts but a contra River [TS]

00:53:34   eight megalomania pitfall Raiders etc [TS]

00:53:37   etc and finally animal crossing city [TS]

00:53:40   fulco its left off and morrowind oh my [TS]

00:53:44   god more wind and psychonauts NHL never [TS]

00:53:48   mind he thought that was going to be a [TS]

00:53:49   three-parter Tony what's your what's [TS]

00:53:51   your leftovers [TS]

00:53:52   alright star wars knights of the old [TS]

00:53:54   republic for the xbox Pikmin for [TS]

00:53:57   gamecube jet set radio also known as jet [TS]

00:53:59   grind radio for the dreamcast final [TS]

00:54:02   fantasy 7 for the PlayStation GTA 3 4 [TS]

00:54:04   playstation 2 it's Steve mentioned gears [TS]

00:54:06   of war resident evil 4 for the gamecube [TS]

00:54:09   metal gear solid for the PlayStation [TS]

00:54:11   castlevania symphony of the night for [TS]

00:54:13   the PlayStation megaman 2 for the nest [TS]

00:54:15   psychonauts for the xbox I think Steve [TS]

00:54:17   mentioned that and then orange box / [TS]

00:54:19   portal for the xbox 360 which probably [TS]

00:54:23   would have been my next pic but I wasn't [TS]

00:54:24   sure how that it is it's like multiple [TS]

00:54:26   games in one pc games that's better PCX [TS]

00:54:28   in the pc land [TS]

00:54:29   I mean it was available for xbox at the [TS]

00:54:31   same time it was it was for certain [TS]

00:54:33   games that are really pc games and [TS]

00:54:34   half-life is one of us have a portal was [TS]

00:54:36   you know was available for PC yeah yeah [TS]

00:54:39   I guess I mean you guys pick things that [TS]

00:54:41   were also available as arcade cabinets [TS]

00:54:42   truth is any leftovers i had to backup [TS]

00:54:47   list one of them was adjective location [TS]

00:54:49   air fortress developed by how labs for [TS]

00:54:52   the nes startropics i think i'm not sure [TS]

00:54:56   if it was also done by how but it was [TS]

00:54:57   also a nintendo own property [TS]

00:54:59   today do you have to spend space dollars [TS]

00:55:01   in the stardrop no startropics is an [TS]

00:55:04   over-the-top legend of zelda type [TS]

00:55:06   adventure game which is really super [TS]

00:55:08   awesome and then start tropics to zodos [TS]

00:55:10   revenge and then my other one was was my [TS]

00:55:13   final fantasy fanboy list of final [TS]

00:55:16   fantasy 12 and three us numbering Greg [TS]

00:55:19   at anything I've got I've got donkey [TS]

00:55:22   kong on the colecovision just because it [TS]

00:55:23   was the first home game that could rival [TS]

00:55:26   the arcade game that i had played it was [TS]

00:55:29   incredibly faithful even if it didn't do [TS]

00:55:30   all the levels and pitfall for the 2608 [TS]

00:55:34   fault that's a good one that's a great [TS]

00:55:35   one [TS]

00:55:36   pretty much anything activision did in [TS]

00:55:39   the beginning freeway megalomania river [TS]

00:55:41   aid kaboom with you know you get to [TS]

00:55:45   10,000 points on kaboom his expression [TS]

00:55:47   changes that's just idea what I did [TS]

00:55:52   instead of having a childhood you're not [TS]

00:55:54   wrong [TS]

00:55:55   ah John I didn't have many more pics [TS]

00:56:00   just for nintendo good stuff I've got [TS]

00:56:04   the legend of zelda twilight princess [TS]

00:56:04   which is a as I've said many shows [TS]

00:56:07   rising in my esteem as time passes [TS]

00:56:09   metroid prime which is one of the rare [TS]

00:56:11   first-person shooter style games that I [TS]

00:56:13   think fits in well on a console resident [TS]

00:56:16   evil but the gamecube remake not the [TS]

00:56:18   eight original PlayStation 1 it's a [TS]

00:56:20   fantastic game also a strange case we're [TS]

00:56:23   like the remake is actually better than [TS]

00:56:24   the original because it is totally the [TS]

00:56:26   original just nicer kinda like shadow [TS]

00:56:28   the class on the ps3 and rounding out [TS]

00:56:31   the legend of zelda the windwaker HD [TS]

00:56:33   remake or the regular either one works [TS]

00:56:36   they're both great right and and my 2 [TS]

00:56:38   left overs were at our superb and he's [TS]

00:56:42   like Superman except he has the symbol [TS]

00:56:44   of Atari on his shirt know the 2600 [TS]

00:56:47   version of superman which I have a [TS]

00:56:48   cartridge now thanks Greg [TS]

00:56:50   he blinks when he's in the room with two [TS]

00:56:52   bad guys out and the other 1i had down [TS]

00:56:55   is since i had that PS one i spent a lot [TS]

00:56:58   of time playing crash bandicoot which [TS]

00:57:01   was a very nice 3d platformer why has [TS]

00:57:04   that not been remastered why like those [TS]

00:57:07   three games are so good [TS]

00:57:09   yeah yeah I enjoyed having a little [TS]

00:57:12   sci-fi mad side [TS]

00:57:13   this kind of thing happening and it's a [TS]

00:57:14   very bad naughty dog to isn't very yeah [TS]

00:57:16   yeah very nice and get around to be [TS]

00:57:18   doing nicely rendered 3d problems that [TS]

00:57:22   PlayStation games are so low poly and [TS]

00:57:25   Syria low-res texture that I mean I'd [TS]

00:57:28   love to see silent hill right one [TS]

00:57:29   remastered but definitely keep in mind [TS]

00:57:31   that I was coming from the 2600 so it [TS]

00:57:33   was very impressed [TS]

00:57:35   okay no that's one because we're very [TS]

00:57:37   impressive back in the day it's just [TS]

00:57:38   that to remaster them now would be a [TS]

00:57:41   non-trivial you know just remembered [TS]

00:57:43   yeah and that pretty much close the book [TS]

00:57:46   on this draft I think oh yeah I know as [TS]

00:57:49   a draft man somebody close the door [TS]

00:57:52   because I sure do like craft let a match [TS]

00:57:56   yeah I so this was great lots of games [TS]

00:58:01   and if you have no they are in position [TS]

00:58:03   of old consoles you play these games or [TS]

00:58:05   emulators but this was a lot of fun [TS]

00:58:08   little little walk down memory lane for [TS]

00:58:10   some people lots of lots of games of the [TS]

00:58:14   more recent vintage and then for people [TS]

00:58:16   like me and Greg lots of things from the [TS]

00:58:18   old times or tired when life was good [TS]

00:58:21   yeah back in the day disappointed [TS]

00:58:23   there's never been a prospector based [TS]

00:58:25   game to speak of [TS]

00:58:26   oh I'm sure there has your lucky come on [TS]

00:58:29   dig dug that's good [TS]

00:58:31   minor 2014 einer just a straight-up [TS]

00:58:34   minor to their minor cursor to load [TS]

00:58:36   writer [TS]

00:58:36   yep I not talking about loadrunner that [TS]

00:58:40   until we get to the computer game draft [TS]

00:58:42   sorry I'm getting ahead of myself [TS]

00:58:44   alright i'd like to thank my guests for [TS]

00:58:45   picking many video games this is a lot [TS]

00:58:47   of fun [TS]

00:58:48   Steve lots as always thank you so much [TS]

00:58:51   for coming and boy you play a lot of [TS]

00:58:52   video games damn a lot of old video [TS]

00:58:55   games [TS]

00:58:55   my pleasure sir and yes I have wasted my [TS]

00:58:58   life all right so long as you can [TS]

00:59:00   consider that little all those video [TS]

00:59:02   games a flash for before your eyes as [TS]

00:59:04   you're on your deathbed and you'll say [TS]

00:59:05   somebody had me a joystick I would play [TS]

00:59:07   a few ballgames [TS]

00:59:09   I actually think it's a positive yeah I [TS]

00:59:11   think it's good i would get me off the [TS]

00:59:13   streets [TS]

00:59:13   yep that's right now man imagine the [TS]

00:59:16   life of crime you want to add things he [TS]

00:59:19   would be the victim [TS]

00:59:21   Greg NOS thank you for being here taking [TS]

00:59:26   victims and and baking my pics seem very [TS]

00:59:29   contemporary [TS]

00:59:30   thank you I i just want them to stop [TS]

00:59:32   making video games so hard and [TS]

00:59:34   complicated yeah i agree with you I'm [TS]

00:59:36   with you Tony sindelar as always thank [TS]

00:59:39   you for being here and and you also play [TS]

00:59:42   a lot of video games i I'm disgustedly [TS]

00:59:44   too many never not true there is no such [TS]

00:59:48   quantity I is to you and thanks for [TS]

00:59:52   dropping in it was great I you you were [TS]

00:59:54   like a video game episode what's that [TS]

00:59:56   all about you came with some some crazy [TS]

00:59:59   pics i'd never [TS]

00:59:59   pics i'd never [TS]

01:00:00   heard about battletoads so thank you for [TS]

01:00:02   enlightening me and changing my life [TS]

01:00:04   finally my my time working customer [TS]

01:00:06   service at funcoland had a purpose and [TS]

01:00:10   John siracusa as always thank you for I [TS]

01:00:14   I'm I'm glad nobody sniped your skype [TS]

01:00:16   journey because that really would have [TS]

01:00:17   been ugly [TS]

01:00:18   I was prepared for it could have had in [TS]

01:00:20   fact i'm kind of disappointed that you [TS]

01:00:22   guys are picked terrible atari 2600 and [TS]

01:00:24   just that but you know whenever we're [TS]

01:00:26   orange back in my day we bought our [TS]

01:00:29   video games and Fred cold war games [TS]

01:00:31   don't exist without our games i felt [TS]

01:00:34   compelled to pick older games to make [TS]

01:00:35   people not feel bad it's like they're [TS]

01:00:37   not picking anything that makes dirty [TS]

01:00:38   that the year starts with the two that [TS]

01:00:40   would be scary right you guys like 160 [TS]

01:00:42   classics that your classics i did not i [TS]

01:00:45   didn't pick anything from vintage game [TS]

01:00:47   the last five years yeah like you know [TS]

01:00:49   like a hall-of-fame until you've got [TS]

01:00:51   nostalgic coloring these things it's [TS]

01:00:52   really you know it's hard to try to know [TS]

01:00:54   in my day we picked up our video game [TS]

01:00:57   consoles shears along with some tools [TS]

01:01:00   know some tough skins i look forward to [TS]

01:01:03   forcing Jason to buy a playstation 4 to [TS]

01:01:06   play last guardian 2016 yeah get ready [TS]

01:01:08   Jason alright in 20 2016 upon reading a [TS]

01:01:11   little help I'm being optimistic yeah [TS]

01:01:12   any day nah I'll just I'll just borrow [TS]

01:01:15   some counsel for that [TS]

01:01:16   yeah pretty much no I was happy to let [TS]

01:01:19   let journey stay out there for you [TS]

01:01:22   although honestly I'm I depicted in the [TS]

01:01:24   second round so good that you got when [TS]

01:01:27   you did but I i thought that was only [TS]

01:01:29   right all right well that uh that wraps [TS]

01:01:33   it up we've picked many video games and [TS]

01:01:35   I'd like to thank everybody out there [TS]

01:01:36   for listening [TS]

01:01:37   once again I've been your host Jason [TS]

01:01:38   cell thanks for listening to your [TS]

01:01:39   comfortable we will see you next time [TS]