Roderick on the Line

Ep. 25: "Supertrain"


00:00:00   hello hi John how are you hi Merlin was [TS]

00:00:09   going Merlin me he was going pretty well [TS]

00:00:15   i'm i'm getting a good kind of a late [TS]

00:00:17   start this year so it's it's March [TS]

00:00:24   seeming you're getting a march start on [TS]

00:00:27   the January year or was it Marshall [TS]

00:00:29   running us alone know so much to do have [TS]

00:00:35   haven't even sent out my something cards [TS]

00:00:37   right you know i was in am I really here [TS]

00:00:39   she's a practice date card yeah i did i [TS]

00:00:42   sent a relationship for a long time with [TS]

00:00:43   the person who is as net you know this [TS]

00:00:47   Anna Karenina right where we never had [TS]

00:00:48   the same problems but you're in a [TS]

00:00:49   relationship with anna karenina everyone [TS]

00:00:52   all right way off the rails [TS]

00:00:53   oh wow that's hot hold for Laughs we [TS]

00:00:56   were bad we would have a Christmas tree [TS]

00:00:58   we buy the Christmas tree late-season [TS]

00:01:00   holiday tree elementary and down under [TS]

00:01:04   nomination alone haha it's never never [TS]

00:01:07   well I was suits certainly not Catholic [TS]

00:01:09   you know I'm really Catholic tree that [TS]

00:01:13   would never have a Catholic tree not my [TS]

00:01:14   home I want to teach my kids either [TS]

00:01:16   well there's a Catholic tree growing on [TS]

00:01:18   my street how could you tell the [TS]

00:01:22   Catholic three come on that was a [TS]

00:01:23   softball is a million ways you could've [TS]

00:01:24   taken that I don't know that the kids to [TS]

00:01:27   touch the kept crying uh I don't know I [TS]

00:01:30   gettin that's transubstantiation make [TS]

00:01:33   bread I don't know [TS]

00:01:34   yeah asian it's hard to say it's got two [TS]

00:01:37   S's I think it's misspelled a lot just [TS]

00:01:39   like the spelling i misspell misspell [TS]

00:01:40   all the time is it has 2 s's yeah that's [TS]

00:01:43   called recursion which is which is also [TS]

00:01:45   known as recursion yeah that's recursive [TS]

00:01:47   transubstantiation as more and more than [TS]

00:01:51   two as i can tell you're not catholic [TS]

00:01:53   and i have braces so it becomes very [TS]

00:01:56   hard [TS]

00:01:57   halfway through the the word it's one of [TS]

00:01:59   those words sometimes I bailout of trans [TS]

00:02:01   and oh yeah you mean jazz Jesus that we [TS]

00:02:04   call jesus spreading I don't get all the [TS]

00:02:06   way that Jesus spreading now he's better [TS]

00:02:08   yeah it's like you got a panko [TS]

00:02:09   breadcrumbs your old fast [TS]

00:02:11   around sure got custard I mean you can't [TS]

00:02:13   prove it but you've got my dad you know [TS]

00:02:16   Anakin Skywalker didn't have a father [TS]

00:02:18   either [TS]

00:02:19   that's not true Anakin Skywalker and [TS]

00:02:21   father he absolutely did not shimmy [TS]

00:02:23   shimmy who is mostly machine which i [TS]

00:02:25   think is a very unfortunate name [TS]

00:02:27   how did she get impregnated no one knows [TS]

00:02:30   I think she might be covering up she [TS]

00:02:33   might happen is that true is that part [TS]

00:02:34   of this part of the star wars cosmology [TS]

00:02:37   well at least because i didn't read any [TS]

00:02:40   of the ideas Joseph at least just Mary [TS]

00:02:42   had the kind of sham marriage [TS]

00:02:44   uh-huh he was like the words that it was [TS]

00:02:46   called a cock hole because cuckold right [TS]

00:02:49   thing no cuddling is a thing ya know yet [TS]

00:02:53   that that troubles me [TS]

00:02:54   um but this is what I see dead because [TS]

00:02:57   you have a hot wife is a cuckold and [TS]

00:02:59   German that's cuckolding there's a lot [TS]

00:03:02   of that it's not everything there are [TS]

00:03:04   many John I the point is that like our [TS]

00:03:06   Lord and Savior and yes yours like the [TS]

00:03:10   man behind the tree [TS]

00:03:11   Anakin Skywalker also did not recover a [TS]

00:03:14   virgin birth did not have a traditional [TS]

00:03:16   yes precisely precisely not enough she's [TS]

00:03:18   a virgin [TS]

00:03:19   maybe she and maybe she turned it around [TS]

00:03:20   maybe should have surgery maybe she got [TS]

00:03:22   it from a toilet seat [TS]

00:03:23   Oh might happen you telling you think [TS]

00:03:26   that toilets on Tatooine better course [TS]

00:03:30   they do a slave so unless George Lucas [TS]

00:03:32   devise some some unless they're a [TS]

00:03:35   special race that's like that that poop [TS]

00:03:38   sweetgrass judicial nominations like [TS]

00:03:40   maybe there's me to get drugs to do that [TS]

00:03:42   no it's a you know they look like human [TS]

00:03:46   beings in the movies but maybe that's [TS]

00:03:48   just a maybe that's just a [TS]

00:03:49   representation maybe they're really like [TS]

00:03:52   Jodie Foster's father in contact where [TS]

00:03:55   they just appear in a humanoid form [TS]

00:03:58   uh-huh because we can understand their [TS]

00:04:00   true all understand operator stop right [TS]

00:04:04   there you're getting close to actual [TS]

00:04:05   religion and i'm going to have to stop [TS]

00:04:07   you there [TS]

00:04:07   um no Catholic trees in in what southern [TS]

00:04:11   southern seattle where are you in the [TS]

00:04:13   southern part time another Seattle yeah [TS]

00:04:15   the South tracklist Catholic trees are [TS]

00:04:17   are they grow mostly in Bavaria not in [TS]

00:04:22   Romania at all no no [TS]

00:04:24   wrong anywhere Balkans John Sherlock [TS]

00:04:26   know you won't see a Catholic tree in [TS]

00:04:28   that whole area but ok it's alright the [TS]

00:04:30   docks with the docks right sort of the [TS]

00:04:32   docs well there are Catholics there [TS]

00:04:34   yeah but I i made a pact with myself not [TS]

00:04:36   to talk about the Balkans anymore on [TS]

00:04:38   this podcast i wanna learn no no please [TS]

00:04:40   don't think packs that you know what [TS]

00:04:41   no no no no no no no are you telling me [TS]

00:04:44   I'm doing it wrong [TS]

00:04:45   I'm telling you I'm telling my daughter [TS]

00:04:46   the internet wrong don't don't listen to [TS]

00:04:48   people you keep every key on the [TS]

00:04:50   keyboard my friend you keep it plugged [TS]

00:04:51   in [TS]

00:04:52   you know I'm saying we're not playing in [TS]

00:04:53   your case get the bluetooth so there's [TS]

00:04:55   no solution is why i just bought stock [TS]

00:04:59   in a double a battery company [TS]

00:05:01   yeah and yeah we are you know a dar [TS]

00:05:04   walgreens which is the worst you [TS]

00:05:06   apparently have everything i do involve [TS]

00:05:07   walgreens now are walkins you can go and [TS]

00:05:09   you can drop off your old dead batteries [TS]

00:05:10   which is nice and then what happens [TS]

00:05:13   I don't know it's michael stipe say says [TS]

00:05:15   when you throw something away where is a [TS]

00:05:16   way that I just blow your mind [TS]

00:05:18   oh my god whoa where is a way to bring [TS]

00:05:22   us and I want to go there [TS]

00:05:24   I know I want to go away lately [TS]

00:05:26   daughters inviting me to have a picnic [TS]

00:05:28   at the dump the dump [TS]

00:05:30   yeah they told her at school that's that [TS]

00:05:31   there's parts of the dump they're going [TS]

00:05:32   to try and turn into a picnic ground [TS]

00:05:34   like if you don't like and ask yourself [TS]

00:05:36   how much you're going to enjoy seagulls [TS]

00:05:38   oh and did I mention stinky garbage one [TS]

00:05:40   time I actually right after the right [TS]

00:05:44   after the first freight train i ever [TS]

00:05:46   hopped like it got off the train in [TS]

00:05:52   vancouver washington because it stopped [TS]

00:05:55   in Vancouver and I and I didn't [TS]

00:05:56   understand that they didn't understand [TS]

00:05:59   matic it was gonna keep going [TS]

00:06:00   this is the thing i learned over time [TS]

00:06:02   hopping freight trains they stop [TS]

00:06:05   sometimes but it doesn't mean they're [TS]

00:06:07   done this is after you had a pilot's [TS]

00:06:08   license [TS]

00:06:09   I had a pilot's license already i can i [TS]

00:06:11   was learning a new skill learning a new [TS]

00:06:13   new new thing [TS]

00:06:14   yeah it's busted Guthrie so it pulls [TS]

00:06:17   into vancouver washington stops it just [TS]

00:06:19   sits there and I'm like oh god I guess [TS]

00:06:22   this was just a really short train to [TS]

00:06:24   that just went to vancouver so i get off [TS]

00:06:26   of course immediately the train starts [TS]

00:06:27   up and and and off it goes [TS]

00:06:29   and I'm standing by the side of the [TS]

00:06:31   track in the middle of the night [TS]

00:06:33   and so I walk across the EU but for [TS]

00:06:35   those of you who are not in the Pacific [TS]

00:06:36   Northwest there's a giant river across [TS]

00:06:39   the color to call the columbia river [TS]

00:06:41   there's a giant train bridge that goes [TS]

00:06:43   across the Columbia I walk across this [TS]

00:06:44   train bridge and walk him looking for a [TS]

00:06:46   look for a place to sleep it so it's so [TS]

00:06:49   late and I'm so tired and I'm so stupid [TS]

00:06:52   and I find this big beautiful open area [TS]

00:06:57   and i am like oh perfect i'm carrying a [TS]

00:07:01   10 to this point and I walked over and I [TS]

00:07:04   walk over this kind of rough ground and [TS]

00:07:07   I find a clearing and I i set up my tent [TS]

00:07:10   and in the morning I wake up to the [TS]

00:07:12   sound of bulldozers all around me haha [TS]

00:07:18   no and I and and it's it's already hot [TS]

00:07:21   it's like seven thirty in the morning [TS]

00:07:23   it's already Hawks middle of the summer [TS]

00:07:25   and I poked my head out of my tent all [TS]

00:07:27   sweaty and I look around and I have [TS]

00:07:30   pitched my tent in the middle of a [TS]

00:07:32   garbage done on a spa Apache land that [TS]

00:07:35   had apparently like they laid down many [TS]

00:07:40   layers of garbage and then they would [TS]

00:07:41   put dirt over the top of it so I'm I'm [TS]

00:07:43   very thin layer of dirt [TS]

00:07:45   you're literally any land fill it in a [TS]

00:07:47   landfill they're feeling lonely and [TS]

00:07:48   putting land on top and then more [TS]

00:07:50   filling right like a big dirty garbage [TS]

00:07:52   sandwich and all around me are those [TS]

00:07:54   giant bucket loaders driving around full [TS]

00:07:58   of garbage and the guys in the bucket [TS]

00:08:00   loader trucks have never laughed so hard [TS]

00:08:03   her life and they're doing their job [TS]

00:08:05   they're they're taking their their [TS]

00:08:07   buckets of trash but the and they and [TS]

00:08:09   all every one of them makes a point to [TS]

00:08:11   just drive as close as you can to my [TS]

00:08:12   tent and just laugh and laugh tears [TS]

00:08:15   streaming down their face as i get out [TS]

00:08:18   in my underwear ahead and get there as [TS]

00:08:21   fold up my sleeping bag in my tent [TS]

00:08:23   it really is comical as it sounds that [TS]

00:08:25   were you amongst garbage hey just found [TS]

00:08:27   a clear spot I was surrounded by garbage [TS]

00:08:30   i was just in there was dirt there's a [TS]

00:08:33   layer of dirt over the top of it so in [TS]

00:08:35   the middle of the night I thought it was [TS]

00:08:37   just this really freshly plowed you [TS]

00:08:41   don't have a Coleman lantern you're [TS]

00:08:42   busting you like you you said this [TS]

00:08:44   tenant meeting [TS]

00:08:45   and you know you need this much I need [TS]

00:08:47   this much flatland I need this much [TS]

00:08:49   stuff that doesn't have a washer dryer [TS]

00:08:50   on it and I can pitch my tent [TS]

00:08:52   yeah and then and I was 17 so i was i [TS]

00:08:56   was dumber than rocks and I didn't I [TS]

00:09:00   mean this is the type of thing that if [TS]

00:09:01   you were if you were even the ripe old [TS]

00:09:03   age of 18 you probably would have stood [TS]

00:09:06   there for a second and thought wait a [TS]

00:09:08   minute what is this place you would have [TS]

00:09:11   you would have caught a whiff of it or [TS]

00:09:13   you would have something with him [TS]

00:09:14   yeah that's the part is that somebody [TS]

00:09:16   used to read books this is this is the [TS]

00:09:17   part of my mind where the Sun result is [TS]

00:09:19   that I feel like for myself when I'm [TS]

00:09:22   anywhere even like slightly near at [TS]

00:09:25   don't there's a very specific smell to a [TS]

00:09:27   dump i would call it the dumps know it [TS]

00:09:29   is a dump smell but they had there were [TS]

00:09:31   a couple of things working here on me [TS]

00:09:33   that there was all right in the dirt [TS]

00:09:35   dirt dirt and also it was right it was [TS]

00:09:38   right next to a river and so the there [TS]

00:09:40   was a there was a strong breathe it was [TS]

00:09:42   open country you know I don't know it [TS]

00:09:45   was very late and now also with the [TS]

00:09:47   river smell too theres a river smell but [TS]

00:09:50   but also like the combination i think of [TS]

00:09:52   the fresh dirt and the breeze disguised [TS]

00:09:56   the dump smell long enough for me to [TS]

00:09:58   pitch my tent and fall asleep Boy in the [TS]

00:10:02   morning in the hot Sun it sure smelled [TS]

00:10:04   like a dump and then respect you you [TS]

00:10:06   look at this as a rookie mistake is [TS]

00:10:08   again I you I i try to be sensitive to [TS]

00:10:10   these things if we need to cut this out [TS]

00:10:11   we can I try to be sensitive to to the [TS]

00:10:13   things that you've learned in your [TS]

00:10:14   training and auto didacticism right [TS]

00:10:16   question to you is in retrospect does it [TS]

00:10:19   scare the living shit out of you to know [TS]

00:10:21   that you made such a potentially poor [TS]

00:10:22   decision about location i bet it was not [TS]

00:10:25   a defensible position i'm guessing for [TS]

00:10:26   one thing you may have been a lower [TS]

00:10:28   ground then you would have light [TS]

00:10:29   well and here's me know it occurred to [TS]

00:10:32   me later like there was absolutely not [TS]

00:10:35   nothing keeping one of those guys in his [TS]

00:10:37   a dumper look easily using always a [TS]

00:10:40   little bit hungover [TS]

00:10:40   he rubs his eyes for half a second and [TS]

00:10:43   pretty soon you have the contents of [TS]

00:10:45   three days three days ago from KFC is [TS]

00:10:47   now covering a 17 year old John Roderick [TS]

00:10:49   that or that they just think like oh [TS]

00:10:51   it's a piece of tent trash that didn't [TS]

00:10:55   get much down is everything will help us [TS]

00:10:57   there 10 trash trash [TS]

00:10:59   and then the first thing they do when [TS]

00:11:00   they get up in the morning and see which [TS]

00:11:01   guy can roll over the bratty tent first [TS]

00:11:04   haha look a little gay McCoy say just [TS]

00:11:08   checking in there [TS]

00:11:09   Hey look up there what's that always [TS]

00:11:10   something we missed a spot we missed [TS]

00:11:12   last week let's get it you know i mean [TS]

00:11:14   any but seriously if I made a list of [TS]

00:11:17   the top 50 rookie mistakes I've made [TS]

00:11:19   where I should have ended up right [TS]

00:11:21   that's covered in KFC buckets buried in [TS]

00:11:24   it i think at a point when you've been [TS]

00:11:25   out of the business long enough and in a [TS]

00:11:27   variety of businesses that you're in it [TS]

00:11:29   would be very interesting for you to put [TS]

00:11:30   out and probably unsuccessfully book [TS]

00:11:32   about the places where you learn because [TS]

00:11:34   you went a little wrong again the things [TS]

00:11:36   that you can talk about but we know [TS]

00:11:38   saying I'm just saying in this case now [TS]

00:11:40   you i'm just guessing 17 year-old john [TS]

00:11:42   setting aside you're probably not a big [TS]

00:11:43   ebook reader that probably wouldn't help [TS]

00:11:45   you [TS]

00:11:45   that was that was a lesson you had to [TS]

00:11:47   learn through and yet and yet i'm just [TS]

00:11:50   gonna guess you know we can always guess [TS]

00:11:52   it's like a menu I you get broken up [TS]

00:11:54   with by some awful girl and you realize [TS]

00:11:56   you're probably not the first person to [TS]

00:11:57   do that or in this case probably [TS]

00:11:58   literally hundreds of women that you've [TS]

00:12:00   broken up with in this case i'm just [TS]

00:12:02   guessing hobo in a tent is something [TS]

00:12:04   they were dealing with a lot between the [TS]

00:12:06   river and the road that you're on the [TS]

00:12:08   road absolutely but probably most hobos [TS]

00:12:11   at that point were seasoned enough to [TS]

00:12:13   not pitch their tent in a kindergarten [TS]

00:12:16   stuff they called salty travelers I'm [TS]

00:12:18   how many guests that I'm in I'm in the [TS]

00:12:20   decided minority of people I mean surely [TS]

00:12:23   people pitch tents in garbage dumps that [TS]

00:12:26   have been capped and turned into parks [TS]

00:12:28   and picnic grounds that happens all the [TS]

00:12:31   time [TS]

00:12:31   capping I got mixed feelings about [TS]

00:12:33   capping oh yeah I do too [TS]

00:12:35   that seems that's cool set skeleton [TS]

00:12:38   saran wrap over something and thinking [TS]

00:12:40   that like you won't go bad [TS]

00:12:41   well here's my feeling that all the [TS]

00:12:44   landfill's that have been captain turned [TS]

00:12:45   into public parks in America are [TS]

00:12:48   actually trash minds for the future when [TS]

00:12:53   the future is mining trash so they're [TS]

00:12:56   just gonna they're going to uncap that [TS]

00:12:58   stuff and mine all that all those [TS]

00:13:00   plastic that's going to be it's going to [TS]

00:13:02   be the cheapest way to get petroleum [TS]

00:13:04   products all [TS]

00:13:06   oh my god you just wrote the beginning [TS]

00:13:09   of what will be an awesome [TS]

00:13:10   if it's not already something you're [TS]

00:13:11   just stealing speculative fiction series [TS]

00:13:14   on what happens we're talking way beyond [TS]

00:13:16   Peak Oil we're talking post-post [TS]

00:13:17   counselor right support my French you're [TS]

00:13:20   talking about literally the only oil we [TS]

00:13:21   have is by like melting mr. Potato Head [TS]

00:13:24   yeah right mining all because by that [TS]

00:13:26   point all the biodegradable stuff will [TS]

00:13:28   have at least turned into like pink [TS]

00:13:30   slime who and then all that's left in [TS]

00:13:33   there is plastic crapolla that has [TS]

00:13:36   already it's just ripe to be recycled [TS]

00:13:39   reused reduced and recycled and then [TS]

00:13:42   recycled and then re-read every fourth [TS]

00:13:45   triangle that's a really good point [TS]

00:13:47   here's the thing they always say I think [TS]

00:13:48   we discuss this on a previous visit but [TS]

00:13:50   they always say one thing that all these [TS]

00:13:52   gloom and doom is get wrong about lots [TS]

00:13:54   of things whether its population growth [TS]

00:13:56   or even running on food or whatever like [TS]

00:13:58   for example they said ever since I can [TS]

00:14:00   remember that the problem the role in [TS]

00:14:01   starvation is not really that the food [TS]

00:14:04   isn't there it's a distribution problem [TS]

00:14:06   then it's an economic problem of your [TS]

00:14:07   caring enough to get that on a boat and [TS]

00:14:08   ticket somewhere right in this instance [TS]

00:14:10   they say you know we're not thinking [TS]

00:14:11   enough ahead about how the technology [TS]

00:14:13   changes i'm still not persuaded the [TS]

00:14:15   technology is changing fast enough but [TS]

00:14:16   if i could say i don't see this is your [TS]

00:14:18   speculative fiction series not mine for [TS]

00:14:20   the sake of argument let's say we [TS]

00:14:22   realize how come majorly fucked we are [TS]

00:14:24   among the fuel situation and we do find [TS]

00:14:27   some way this cold fusion style way to [TS]

00:14:30   get way more energy out of way less [TS]

00:14:32   you're saying if i understand correctly [TS]

00:14:34   that you could potentially run a future [TS]

00:14:36   dump of of 10 Slammers and maybe just a [TS]

00:14:39   few mr. potato heads that have been [TS]

00:14:40   melted down in the appropriate way [TS]

00:14:41   setting aside to think slime which we [TS]

00:14:43   could use for something you're saying [TS]

00:14:44   may become so efficient uncap we going [TS]

00:14:46   we fill our tanks with absolutely our [TS]

00:14:48   heads [TS]

00:14:49   I mean look at that look at the third [TS]

00:14:50   episode of back to the future really [TS]

00:14:53   just days there's something I need is [TS]

00:14:55   really something i need to write on the [TS]

00:14:56   card he and I mean we know we know [TS]

00:14:58   already that that car requires one point [TS]

00:15:00   twenty-one gigawatts ok and in the third [TS]

00:15:02   episode or in the end of the second [TS]

00:15:04   episode I don't know which would have [TS]

00:15:06   maybe it was the 3000 currently oh well [TS]

00:15:09   yeah one at one point he comes back from [TS]

00:15:11   the future to the present in the [TS]

00:15:13   eighties and he goes and gets some trash [TS]

00:15:16   out of the kitchen and throws it into [TS]

00:15:18   the trash compactor inside the house [TS]

00:15:21   right and i think is that in the first [TS]

00:15:23   episode ok that's the first episode will [TS]

00:15:24   in any case he we know it takes one [TS]

00:15:27   point twenty-one gigawatts huh [TS]

00:15:29   so he's getting that amount of energy [TS]

00:15:31   out of like some some coffee grounds and [TS]

00:15:34   some you know some plastic me I'm gonna [TS]

00:15:39   get a two liter of pepsi bottle to the [TS]

00:15:41   Pepsi bottle so we know that energy is [TS]

00:15:43   in there [TS]

00:15:44   pepsi free we just have to find and [TS]

00:15:46   these trash dumps are right in the [TS]

00:15:48   center of our cities so we but we're not [TS]

00:15:49   there's going to be a transportation [TS]

00:15:51   problem it's cheap energy [TS]

00:15:53   Oh China i'm sorry i've been getting you [TS]

00:15:55   a wrong you're fucking futurist have you [TS]

00:15:58   really thought about this are you just [TS]

00:15:59   are you just doing this from somebody [TS]

00:16:00   else [TS]

00:16:01   no I'm not stealing it from someone else [TS]

00:16:04   I'm offended my real plan my real [TS]

00:16:07   project is exactly what their two those [TS]

00:16:08   giant floating seas of plastic to try [TS]

00:16:12   this that are out in the middle of the [TS]

00:16:13   Pacific Ocean [TS]

00:16:14   oh those big those big like those reefs [TS]

00:16:17   of trash the feather the big picture [TS]

00:16:19   scary Sargasso Sea sized a dead zone of [TS]

00:16:24   of garbage are floating garbage and just [TS]

00:16:27   go out there with some kind of a long [TS]

00:16:29   net fishing trawler and just gather it [TS]

00:16:32   all up and process it on my converted [TS]

00:16:37   exxon valdez future ship captain is [TS]

00:16:44   already to be like a jonathan coulton [TS]

00:16:46   character you can that you're going to [TS]

00:16:48   be the garbages are I'm gardens are and [TS]

00:16:51   this is you know what and my daughter [TS]

00:16:52   and i started reading last night we read [TS]

00:16:54   a batman comic from 1941 which was [TS]

00:16:57   awesome but you're like a bat or James [TS]

00:16:59   Bond maybe you're some kind of a [TS]

00:17:00   supervillain were all there maybe SMERSH [TS]

00:17:02   rights marsh that's the bad guys right [TS]

00:17:04   now that's some of the best for all the [TS]

00:17:06   girls wear combat boots [TS]

00:17:07   mm and so here's what happens what's [TS]

00:17:09   going to happen is the people at a mi 35 [TS]

00:17:12   or whatever are going to be sitting [TS]

00:17:13   around going we've noticed some very [TS]

00:17:15   unusual activity right but people are [TS]

00:17:19   using Swiss accounts [TS]

00:17:20   uh-huh you probably have lots of pistols [TS]

00:17:22   in them to to buyout capped garbage [TS]

00:17:25   dumps across the u.s. I who is cornering [TS]

00:17:28   the market there seems to be a lot of [TS]

00:17:30   interest in buying cap dumps near and [TS]

00:17:33   old decommissioned oil tankers and oiled [TS]

00:17:36   old decommissioned oil tankers yes but [TS]

00:17:39   there's a pattern here and they go in [TS]

00:17:40   and they make the giant you know like [TS]

00:17:41   every supervillain you gotta have like [TS]

00:17:43   your giant miniature version of whatever [TS]

00:17:45   you're building like and I hardware [TS]

00:17:47   absolute core finger it's one of those [TS]

00:17:49   know for much with a lot i guess a model [TS]

00:17:50   exactly need to get a point you got a [TS]

00:17:52   pointer and then and pregnancy Mitch it [TS]

00:17:55   you can find one right oh my god they're [TS]

00:17:57   everywhere that I think the message to [TS]

00:18:00   go to come to you [TS]

00:18:01   the thing is when you're when you're a [TS]

00:18:02   supervillain yes they come to you [TS]

00:18:04   I think that's where you said you're [TS]

00:18:05   always a little people too ok not to get [TS]

00:18:07   my little people become droid take the [TS]

00:18:09   midgets that's the balance it was the [TS]

00:18:11   lookout for they're the ones that the [TS]

00:18:13   caroling vials of poison and blowguns [TS]

00:18:14   right well is the one little people [TS]

00:18:17   there's always gonna be there's always [TS]

00:18:18   gonna be jobs for joy it's you know [TS]

00:18:19   saying yeah I over munchkins [TS]

00:18:22   did you know Kenny Baker and Jack [TS]

00:18:23   purposes to have a cabaret show together [TS]

00:18:26   the guy who played the guy played r2d2 [TS]

00:18:28   and the guy who played like yeah some I [TS]

00:18:31   didn't know they had a cabaret show but [TS]

00:18:33   then I don't follow the trades through [TS]

00:18:35   my mind the pattern they notice I'm [TS]

00:18:37   sorry most 1642 got there here's the [TS]

00:18:39   thing though is I learned from you [TS]

00:18:41   fucking John Roderick you know just [TS]

00:18:42   brought you just brought it all together [TS]

00:18:43   in a way that will that's blowing my [TS]

00:18:46   mind in the water you got the dumps you [TS]

00:18:49   get the trash [TS]

00:18:50   you got the railroads again we're back [TS]

00:18:52   to the same things for how did you learn [TS]

00:18:54   about a fucking City its transportation [TS]

00:18:57   it's an energy warren buffett knows that [TS]

00:19:00   he bought all the railroads that's right [TS]

00:19:02   you know what he says he should but he [TS]

00:19:03   says you should buy things when they're [TS]

00:19:04   inexpensive and then sell them once they [TS]

00:19:06   become expensive [TS]

00:19:07   see that's all you have to do this why [TS]

00:19:09   didn't anybody ever say that before that [TS]

00:19:11   is the one thing that those those Wall [TS]

00:19:12   Street fat cats don't want you to know [TS]

00:19:13   what I'm saying is if James Bond or [TS]

00:19:15   somebody else who has a miniature model [TS]

00:19:16   and a pointer and some midgets starts [TS]

00:19:18   pointing they're gonna notice that a lot [TS]

00:19:20   of the places that is greater than women [TS]

00:19:23   are garbage dumps and all decommissioned [TS]

00:19:25   oil tankers have all been bought up all [TS]

00:19:28   we're all the widgets it's like a lot of [TS]

00:19:31   trouble finding used pump chili [TS]

00:19:32   containers but no I'm saying advise it [TS]

00:19:35   because i find gas station if you find [TS]

00:19:37   these near a waterway and a railer you [TS]

00:19:39   have a built-in right there with you [TS]

00:19:41   find the narrow waterway road they are [TS]

00:19:43   precisely situated near waterways and [TS]

00:19:46   real [TS]

00:19:46   Rhodes eventually this business will [TS]

00:19:48   grow and you know you're going to need [TS]

00:19:49   office space can i just say mobile home [TS]

00:19:51   parks the poor people live in mobile [TS]

00:19:55   homes in the shittiest part of town [TS]

00:19:56   low-lying right it's probably near the [TS]

00:19:58   railroads and the dumps [TS]

00:20:00   so you're saying that there that there [TS]

00:20:01   is a potential script for a Bond film in [TS]

00:20:03   this weather but instead of the bond [TS]

00:20:06   villain being a super billionaire who [TS]

00:20:08   the bond villain is a genius white trash [TS]

00:20:11   dump living if by white travellinlunas [TS]

00:20:15   rich procrastinating sometimes musician [TS]

00:20:18   i would have to say yes [TS]

00:20:19   who am i rich procrastinating sometimes [TS]

00:20:21   musician who knows how to speak white [TS]

00:20:24   trash enough to communicate with all the [TS]

00:20:26   denizens of these outsider communities [TS]

00:20:30   okay listen I'm totally fine with your [TS]

00:20:32   head getting big girl and and you [TS]

00:20:35   getting more self-involved you honestly [TS]

00:20:37   believe that you can talk white trash [TS]

00:20:38   that well no I know James I know I can't [TS]

00:20:42   i consent is getting super super [TS]

00:20:44   frustrated a little general about two in [TS]

00:20:45   the morning it's it's it's one of the [TS]

00:20:48   things that I had a really interesting [TS]

00:20:51   conversation with a guy many many years [TS]

00:20:53   ago when I was I had been i've been [TS]

00:20:55   prowling through America's underbelly [TS]

00:20:59   America's undercarriage for a few years [TS]

00:21:04   America's lady basement and um I was [TS]

00:21:08   talking to this guy [TS]

00:21:09   it was up in upstate New York house [TS]

00:21:11   those whose at cornell and and he was a [TS]

00:21:15   smart kid at Cornell but he was that he [TS]

00:21:17   was it from these from the Bronx you [TS]

00:21:19   know there's one of those smart kids [TS]

00:21:20   from the Bronx where he had street [TS]

00:21:22   smarts and I was telling her about all [TS]

00:21:25   these places in west virginia and [TS]

00:21:27   Alabama tuscaloosa that I had been and [TS]

00:21:29   how I was trying to communicate with [TS]

00:21:31   these people in their native dialect and [TS]

00:21:34   and this kid is there were both kids [TS]

00:21:36   still you know whatever 19 years old and [TS]

00:21:38   he looks migos I we talk about native [TS]

00:21:41   dialect I just talked to people like I [TS]

00:21:43   talking and uh and and then they [TS]

00:21:46   understand they respect that i'm i'm [TS]

00:21:48   speaking in my own language and I was [TS]

00:21:52   like already talking about you don't [TS]

00:21:54   want to you know talk to the you don't [TS]

00:21:56   talk to people around America like [TS]

00:21:58   you're weird accent you want to try to [TS]

00:22:01   get inside their minds and get inside [TS]

00:22:03   their culture and seem like your your uh [TS]

00:22:05   you know you're from there and he was [TS]

00:22:08   like what you know we're gonna fool [TS]

00:22:10   anybody that you from there you just [TS]

00:22:12   talk like you're talking then they know [TS]

00:22:15   you you you you who you are and he blew [TS]

00:22:18   my mind and I at the time that was those [TS]

00:22:21   that was a that was a heavy heavy lesson [TS]

00:22:25   I learned from this kid and I stopped [TS]

00:22:27   making the rookie mistake [TS]

00:22:29   well which I had been making the rookie [TS]

00:22:32   mistake of going into places and trying [TS]

00:22:34   to trying to like figure out how they do [TS]

00:22:39   it and then are you trying to be trying [TS]

00:22:40   to pass [TS]

00:22:41   no not trying to pass but like I mean [TS]

00:22:44   obviously the first thing i said was I'm [TS]

00:22:46   not from here but but i didn't [TS]

00:22:49   understand that but half the time ago [TS]

00:22:53   hey y'all I'm not from around here he [TS]

00:22:55   talked IV yo Dawg I'm not right you know [TS]

00:23:00   like i would i would get i would try and [TS]

00:23:02   adopt their local mannerisms right [TS]

00:23:05   because I thought that was how you how [TS]

00:23:10   you screeched the wheels and this guy [TS]

00:23:13   from the Bronx was saying no I have a [TS]

00:23:15   comically Bronx accent and I go [TS]

00:23:18   everywhere and people are fine and he [TS]

00:23:21   was a wise man for his 19 years and i [TS]

00:23:24   was actually embarrassed when I learned [TS]

00:23:27   when I when it was revealed to me that I [TS]

00:23:29   was being kind of a turkey by going [TS]

00:23:34   around by going around like mimicking [TS]

00:23:37   people's accents back to them who and [TS]

00:23:40   thinking that I was really that I was [TS]

00:23:43   really getting inside i've i've done [TS]

00:23:46   that i have done that I know I continue [TS]

00:23:48   to do that and what's weird about it is [TS]

00:23:51   in my head when I'm doing that and a no [TS]

00:23:54   and now I really notice it when other [TS]

00:23:55   people do it there's this guy see around [TS]

00:23:57   the neighborhood and whenever he talks [TS]

00:23:58   to anybody he acts like they are in ESL [TS]

00:24:02   like english-as-a-second-language person [TS]

00:24:04   who is profoundly retarded everything he [TS]

00:24:06   says to them he explains like this [TS]

00:24:09   I think that he does things like buy and [TS]

00:24:11   sell cars but what I want to do is [TS]

00:24:15   explain to you that i will park it here [TS]

00:24:17   and then you can get it later [TS]

00:24:19   it doesn't matter he could bc talks that [TS]

00:24:21   way to me talk that way to anybody [TS]

00:24:22   that's how the guy talks but what's [TS]

00:24:24   funny is like interviews from the Bronx [TS]

00:24:26   could be i could be maybe there are very [TS]

00:24:28   candid people there here's the thing [TS]

00:24:30   though i think that that is ironically [TS]

00:24:32   enough in my experience it we're kind of [TS]

00:24:33   provincialism because my provincialism [TS]

00:24:36   I'm so provincial that I think I'm fancy [TS]

00:24:39   that's how I don't know enough to know [TS]

00:24:41   what I don't know [TS]

00:24:42   uh-huh right so that's how that's what I [TS]

00:24:43   fucking dumbass i am and so I go out and [TS]

00:24:45   act like the entire world needs to have [TS]

00:24:48   the my brilliance dumb down a little bit [TS]

00:24:50   answer and you know what and understands [TS]

00:24:52   you but for me and you know what I'll [TS]

00:24:53   even throw in a little bit extra by [TS]

00:24:55   trying to catch up with your little [TS]

00:24:56   code-switching patois my talk for my [TS]

00:25:00   doctor and coming from Alaska I i really [TS]

00:25:03   did come to America as though America [TS]

00:25:07   was a foreign country and and not just a [TS]

00:25:09   foreign country but multiple foreign [TS]

00:25:11   countries within one big continent right [TS]

00:25:14   so the so you you're born so you're [TS]

00:25:16   pointing what Washington right yeah and [TS]

00:25:18   then I mean I grew up in between seattle [TS]

00:25:21   in Alaska and moved so you must move [TS]

00:25:24   around in oil based computing in base [TS]

00:25:26   computer and my dad was a was a lawyer a [TS]

00:25:29   government lawyer for for a long time [TS]

00:25:31   but in the corridors of power he was the [TS]

00:25:34   chief counsel of the Alaska Railroad [TS]

00:25:36   which one time wow I a federally owned a [TS]

00:25:42   railroad doesn't connect to any other [TS]

00:25:44   railroads it's just the railroad that [TS]

00:25:46   goes across Alaska and so he was them he [TS]

00:25:51   was a big wheel there before he had a he [TS]

00:25:53   had a pass in his wallet that allowed [TS]

00:25:55   him get on any train and haha it's like [TS]

00:25:58   a Europe pass except in America and you [TS]

00:26:00   can just ride my god it was so amazing [TS]

00:26:02   oh my god was that was like it was it [TS]

00:26:04   like from still has i'm going to happen [TS]

00:26:06   but it doesn't work [TS]

00:26:07   did I was like okay it was like trains [TS]

00:26:09   with seats or what were you like as a [TS]

00:26:11   cargo plane of things with seeds yes yes [TS]

00:26:13   yes you going to write on like consumer [TS]

00:26:15   trains not only that I over the house [TS]

00:26:19   sometimes what he had done what you know [TS]

00:26:22   when he had a reason you would call up [TS]

00:26:24   at bay and the Alaska Railroad had a [TS]

00:26:26   presidential car [TS]

00:26:27   oh my god which was a three bedroom [TS]

00:26:30   apartment with a living room and a [TS]

00:26:33   kitchen and a butler's pantry and a [TS]

00:26:37   balcony on the back and he would have [TS]

00:26:40   them attached this train this [TS]

00:26:43   presidential car which had been Truman's [TS]

00:26:45   a whistle-stop car [TS]

00:26:48   are you kidding me you have an attached [TS]

00:26:50   to the back of any alaska railroad train [TS]

00:26:52   we would go would go to training around [TS]

00:26:55   Alaska the ferdinand magellan railcar oh [TS]

00:26:59   you're looking it up i'm looking for [TS]

00:27:01   several here and there are what I'm [TS]

00:27:02   telling you John R I'm sorry to [TS]

00:27:04   interrupt you but I'm just already i [TS]

00:27:05   just got such a train boner you can't [TS]

00:27:07   even imagine you know I can't imagine [TS]

00:27:08   because i'm not your gender you [TS]

00:27:11   understand what people pay to do [TS]

00:27:13   practically fucking anything near Alaska [TS]

00:27:15   today [TS]

00:27:16   you mentioned Alaska and wales and [TS]

00:27:18   people are writing checks as you do that [TS]

00:27:20   to ride around in a really nice a [TS]

00:27:22   three-bedroom train car in Alaska to oh [TS]

00:27:24   my god did you ever get to do it all the [TS]

00:27:27   time getting my sister and I have [TS]

00:27:29   pictures of ourselves just partying in [TS]

00:27:31   this train car leading off the balcony [TS]

00:27:33   you know sleeping and sleeping in the [TS]

00:27:36   train sleep and sleep the train because [TS]

00:27:38   it because we would train we get to fit [TS]

00:27:39   would sleep on the way to Fairbanks so [TS]

00:27:41   that we get to Fairbanks and we'd stay [TS]

00:27:43   in the train car while they turned it [TS]

00:27:45   around and got ready to go make the trip [TS]

00:27:48   back [TS]

00:27:48   we did all kinds of stuff today my dad [TS]

00:27:51   actually isn't uh I don't remember but [TS]

00:27:55   this was this was not you were watching [TS]

00:27:58   TV was not a thing you would have been [TS]

00:28:00   doing now i would but i mean yet books [TS]

00:28:02   you have books are games he probably had [TS]

00:28:04   board games and stuff I mean you're on a [TS]

00:28:06   train going through Alaska you're likely [TS]

00:28:08   hanging off the back the whole time we [TS]

00:28:10   would we would spend hours hanging off [TS]

00:28:12   the back can already tell in your bio [TS]

00:28:13   pic you're probably massively over [TS]

00:28:15   hunter overfunded and behind the heavens [TS]

00:28:18   gate of a biopic that [TS]

00:28:19   we'll have some day I can see that now [TS]

00:28:21   that were me I'd be sitting there going [TS]

00:28:22   like why can't I watch my can i watch [TS]

00:28:23   this am I guess I could see you curling [TS]

00:28:26   up with that with a with a book on the [TS]

00:28:29   Special Forces Special Ops just getting [TS]

00:28:31   up in the sky car and just sit and just [TS]

00:28:34   look at the photo this right now the [TS]

00:28:35   best way to see Alaska is on the [TS]

00:28:37   railroad the alaska railroad corporation [TS]

00:28:39   and i already i I've got a total train [TS]

00:28:41   or i would love to be in the sky car [TS]

00:28:42   reading an encyclopedia right now is [TS]

00:28:44   gorgeous [TS]

00:28:44   yeah and the thing is that this is [TS]

00:28:46   something I learned when I was a little [TS]

00:28:47   kid traveling with my dad because my dad [TS]

00:28:49   always stayed in in my dad was the [TS]

00:28:52   high-roller so he would always stay in [TS]

00:28:54   in high-rise hotels classic hotels [TS]

00:28:56   hotels that have full-sized swimming [TS]

00:28:58   pools in them and not in the basement [TS]

00:29:00   either hotels that full-sized swimming [TS]

00:29:02   pools on the eighth floor you know what [TS]

00:29:04   I mean like pretty nice places and train [TS]

00:29:07   train private train cars in this type of [TS]

00:29:09   thing and what I learned is that when [TS]

00:29:11   you stay in a giant hotel or when you [TS]

00:29:13   stay in a in a in a deluxe train car you [TS]

00:29:17   can entertain yourself almost [TS]

00:29:20   indefinitely by finding things to throw [TS]

00:29:23   off the balcony so if you are if you are [TS]

00:29:28   in a train car you're going across [TS]

00:29:29   Alaska you're scouring the train and the [TS]

00:29:32   thing is that the train is connected to [TS]

00:29:33   the regular train full of regular people [TS]

00:29:36   and actually there was a man in alaska [TS]

00:29:39   railroad employee who was posted at the [TS]

00:29:41   door of our car to keep the regulars are [TS]

00:29:46   you kidding me [TS]

00:29:47   not at all you had a riff raff monitor [TS]

00:29:49   we had a guy in a little coat and tie [TS]

00:29:51   who sat on a stool was like oh sorry [TS]

00:29:53   this is the end of the this is the end [TS]

00:29:55   of the public train so we would go [TS]

00:29:58   through the train and we would just [TS]

00:30:00   collect all the things that might be [TS]

00:30:02   interesting to throw off the back of the [TS]

00:30:04   train as the train is speeding through [TS]

00:30:05   the countryside and I'm not about litter [TS]

00:30:08   litter wouldn't be interesting but [TS]

00:30:10   things that might break or things that [TS]

00:30:13   might fly these were also all the things [TS]

00:30:16   that I would scavenge hotels for and I [TS]

00:30:18   would sit because my dad being the guy [TS]

00:30:21   that he was he would often say um you [TS]

00:30:23   stay in the room i'll be back in a [TS]

00:30:25   couple hours and then I be in the hotel [TS]

00:30:27   room and and I I always took that to [TS]

00:30:30   mean you stay in the hotel [TS]

00:30:32   where you stay around those as I got [TS]

00:30:34   older it was like you stay in the [TS]

00:30:35   vicinity of my hotel but that's why [TS]

00:30:37   would collect stuff like I would get a [TS]

00:30:40   bucket of ice because you're gonna want [TS]

00:30:41   to throw some I saw off the 18th floor [TS]

00:30:44   of evidence melts and that's right and i [TS]

00:30:47   would i would get a lot of paper and i [TS]

00:30:49   would try and find matches because you [TS]

00:30:50   want to make you want to make paper [TS]

00:30:52   airplanes and light them on fire and [TS]

00:30:55   throw them off the 18th floor out of [TS]

00:30:59   your aching for hotel room and I would [TS]

00:31:01   sit and just tuck stuff so tell and I [TS]

00:31:04   cannot tell you the number of people who [TS]

00:31:06   looked up from the sidewalk in this busy [TS]

00:31:08   urban environment stick their fist at [TS]

00:31:12   the sky because i had slime to them from [TS]

00:31:17   high up in the air [TS]

00:31:18   yeah i'm just glad to know that you [TS]

00:31:20   wouldn't be his power if he had it not [TS]

00:31:22   at all not at all you know up in [TS]

00:31:25   addition to having my pilot's license [TS]

00:31:27   when I was 17 my dad took me down to the [TS]

00:31:30   railyard one time and I had a man teach [TS]

00:31:33   me how to drive a locomotive he knew [TS]

00:31:38   that this is something i would be [TS]

00:31:40   interested in this summer a plan ahead [TS]

00:31:41   they put this on your calendar use dad's [TS]

00:31:43   shop just disrupt things to teach it [TS]

00:31:45   really tell [TS]

00:31:46   I think he knew this engine a little [TS]

00:31:48   fucky up you know they all knew him [TS]

00:31:50   because he wasn't using at the head [TS]

00:31:52   office but let's let's let's state the [TS]

00:31:54   obvious here which is that your father [TS]

00:31:55   was important powerful whatever enough [TS]

00:31:57   that he was he was a man you if you had [TS]

00:32:01   the choice you'd rather not disappoint [TS]

00:32:03   him even in any role right and let's be [TS]

00:32:06   honest even if that's it for the hotel [TS]

00:32:07   serving him he's a big gun in the travel [TS]

00:32:09   industry [TS]

00:32:10   mhm and so you wouldn't want him to fill [TS]

00:32:12   out that card and say I'm Dave Roderick [TS]

00:32:14   and a and some bellhop chastise my son [TS]

00:32:17   for throwing a bucket of ice at 11 / 24 [TS]

00:32:20   swing it's your slut shaming playing set [TS]

00:32:24   up but also now once I'd like his job [TS]

00:32:27   please like i want to see this kid bring [TS]

00:32:31   them to me now that would be funny if [TS]

00:32:32   every time he got mad he insisted that [TS]

00:32:34   person's boss that you got to have that [TS]

00:32:36   person's job for a day but but but [TS]

00:32:38   driving a locomotive [TS]

00:32:40   oh sorry look sorry about that look [TS]

00:32:41   amount of him oh my god so [TS]

00:32:43   fun because really there's not much to [TS]

00:32:47   it you have a you have a little handle [TS]

00:32:48   that's the throttle and you have a break [TS]

00:32:50   and have a horn but boy when you put [TS]

00:32:53   that thing in gear and it starts to move [TS]

00:32:54   also they let me ride they let me ride [TS]

00:32:59   on the front of the locomotive by the [TS]

00:33:02   cal catcher [TS]

00:33:03   yeah you know there's a little railing [TS]

00:33:05   and you can walk around the very the the [TS]

00:33:07   no I think that's I think that's for [TS]

00:33:09   maintenance time it is for maintenance [TS]

00:33:11   but they let me go out there because I [TS]

00:33:12   begged I was like come on come on please [TS]

00:33:14   please please let me right on the money [TS]

00:33:15   like a Titanic that would be so fun [TS]

00:33:18   front of the locomotive yeah it's that [TS]

00:33:20   was very fun but you know I'm sure [TS]

00:33:21   everybody was shooting bullets because i [TS]

00:33:24   was was climbing on the front of this [TS]

00:33:26   training all the guys inside were like [TS]

00:33:28   that's the boss's kid got great parties [TS]

00:33:30   your dad would probably have to [TS]

00:33:31   adjudicate that the case still do the [TS]

00:33:33   case with that went to trial and the [TS]

00:33:35   people from the insurance company were [TS]

00:33:36   there at the time because going to [TS]

00:33:38   understand that we're going to lawyer [TS]

00:33:40   the lead counsel for your company asked [TS]

00:33:42   that the child be pushed to the front of [TS]

00:33:44   the prowl [TS]

00:33:45   at the time there was no such thing as [TS]

00:33:47   child abuse so they wouldn't have they [TS]

00:33:49   wouldn't have put my dad on trial for [TS]

00:33:51   letting didn't have a name for it was [TS]

00:33:53   like autism [TS]

00:33:54   yeah whenever I was like oh I understand [TS]

00:33:56   why all these kids are so sad anyway [TS]

00:33:57   let's do the school's yeah okay well so [TS]

00:34:06   far I've got three lessons I've got less [TS]

00:34:08   than one and again if we can cut this [TS]

00:34:10   out of this is too much but i'm not a [TS]

00:34:12   lesson number one for your ebook is [TS]

00:34:14   don't pitch your tent a dump right good [TS]

00:34:16   number two I don't don't have a fakie [TS]

00:34:19   pass want to act like you are [TS]

00:34:20   understanding someone better [TS]

00:34:21   exactly and if you're going to lean out [TS]

00:34:24   the window have stuff to throw that's [TS]

00:34:26   right at you you've nailed it [TS]

00:34:29   you've nailed all the topic i'm just [TS]

00:34:30   gonna I may end up being being your [TS]

00:34:33   Boswell so I'll just capture all of this [TS]

00:34:35   here i'll keep here in nearby and I just [TS]

00:34:38   I if you can I don't get too far away [TS]

00:34:40   from from something much deeper here [TS]

00:34:41   that which is well you know your show [TS]

00:34:43   but I I don't wanna get too far away [TS]

00:34:45   from the idea that yeah I hope is not [TS]

00:34:48   stealing well I think you may be so far [TS]

00:34:49   in front of this idea we don't need to [TS]

00:34:51   worry about it being stolen but i think [TS]

00:34:53   it's going to be so obviously well [TS]

00:34:55   here's the thing you've got contact [TS]

00:34:57   inside the industry you've written the [TS]

00:34:58   front of a fucking locomotive that you [TS]

00:35:00   are driving that's right how many people [TS]

00:35:02   have ever even fans that's a terrible [TS]

00:35:04   idea [TS]

00:35:05   that's an awful idea what you've done [TS]

00:35:06   that you have large way to me to throw [TS]

00:35:09   things out of high-rise window yeah you [TS]

00:35:10   used throne throne flaming paper from [TS]

00:35:13   Harry Truman car like how many people [TS]

00:35:15   can say they don't so here's all I'm [TS]

00:35:16   thinking is when you do have this this I [TS]

00:35:18   don't know what you want to call it when [TS]

00:35:19   you have this this dystopic future [TS]

00:35:22   empire that involves tearing up in [TS]

00:35:24   garbage dumps in order to in order to [TS]

00:35:25   tell mr. potato heads or what have you [TS]

00:35:27   I think you can do that by train i think [TS]

00:35:29   you go from one mobile home park to the [TS]

00:35:32   other super train is it John supertrain [TS]

00:35:36   supertrain yankee here's the thing can I [TS]

00:35:38   just point out into scalable and [TS]

00:35:39   extensible you can literally hook new [TS]

00:35:41   cars on you're gonna be so rich and so [TS]

00:35:43   fucking weird at this point you could [TS]

00:35:45   have just the new throwing car you can [TS]

00:35:47   trade with the store throwing a super [TS]

00:35:49   train can be whatever you want it to be [TS]

00:35:50   that fucking weak supertrain with a [TS]

00:35:52   giant claw a like a giant claw crane and [TS]

00:35:56   you can drive super train ride up to old [TS]

00:35:59   trash dumps and giant clock crane [TS]

00:36:01   reaches out grabs the whole trash dump [TS]

00:36:04   in its giant claw and puts it on flat [TS]

00:36:07   cars and you take it to your statement [TS]

00:36:11   that beyond your own train because it [TS]

00:36:12   seems like but you could here's the [TS]

00:36:14   thing okay i'm sorry you have all your [TS]

00:36:16   friends all across you know why you're [TS]

00:36:17   too much to break it off you call [TS]

00:36:18   somebody else and you have junior train [TS]

00:36:20   come in and take care of the rest of you [TS]

00:36:21   you're saying you you literally care the [TS]

00:36:23   top off of that but where the children [TS]

00:36:25   might be camping having a picnic and [TS]

00:36:27   frisbee and here comes super train to [TS]

00:36:29   act like a cheap to pay and then mr. [TS]

00:36:31   clock goes in and grabs that starts [TS]

00:36:33   filling all the all the potato [TS]

00:36:34   containers for future feeling it's a [TS]

00:36:36   fantastic idea [TS]

00:36:37   the thing is that in the future right [TS]

00:36:39   like already we know we notice that [TS]

00:36:41   plastic cutlery is being made out of [TS]

00:36:44   compressed potato starch right we don't [TS]

00:36:47   need compostable yes yeah we don't need [TS]

00:36:49   a oil and petroleum products to make [TS]

00:36:52   plastic forks anymore because they're [TS]

00:36:54   making out of potato starch and we don't [TS]

00:36:56   need a petroleum to power our [TS]

00:36:59   automobiles anymore because we have [TS]

00:37:01   these uh these electric automobiles and [TS]

00:37:03   we'll have hydrogen cars or whatever so [TS]

00:37:05   we're going to need a lot less petroleum [TS]

00:37:07   in the future [TS]

00:37:09   but there are some things that petroleum [TS]

00:37:11   but you really need petroleum for like [TS]

00:37:14   lawn mowers [TS]

00:37:15   yeah and petroleum jelly how are you [TS]

00:37:20   need petroleum for anything that has [TS]

00:37:22   petroleum in the man [TS]

00:37:23   ok I see you're saying there could not [TS]

00:37:25   be for the sake of argument a UH a [TS]

00:37:27   solar-powered jelly that we have to have [TS]

00:37:31   the same performance features except it [TS]

00:37:32   wasn't really you couldn't have like a [TS]

00:37:34   hydrogen jealous what about what about [TS]

00:37:36   other kinds of lubricants like four [TS]

00:37:37   motorcycles or butt plugs [TS]

00:37:39   well it because he shouldn't use [TS]

00:37:40   petroleum month you can use whale oil [TS]

00:37:41   for some of that stuff [TS]

00:37:43   how do you how do you get that you have [TS]

00:37:44   to kill the well you could milk to boil [TS]

00:37:48   another Michaels the genius to 1500 [TS]

00:37:52   joyal out of him and get him thrown back [TS]

00:37:54   okay and and that could be a subset of [TS]

00:37:56   my of my super tanker has well-well [TS]

00:37:59   milker here's another obvious I again I [TS]

00:38:03   know you i'm sure you've already thought [TS]

00:38:04   of this in your part of your probably [TS]

00:38:06   very large book of plans but it would be [TS]

00:38:08   pretty cool also if you basically never [TS]

00:38:10   had to get out [TS]

00:38:11   leslie there's one like Truman car that [TS]

00:38:14   is always yours [TS]

00:38:15   it's always it's like your bedroom and [TS]

00:38:16   it goes into the Super Kings you the [TS]

00:38:19   fucking supertanker the supertrain goes [TS]

00:38:20   on the supertanker it can be tracked [TS]

00:38:22   becomes sort of like a like a what like [TS]

00:38:25   a like a large-scale rascal or al right [TS]

00:38:28   it's like a super rascal isn't super you [TS]

00:38:30   know what you know what you're going to [TS]

00:38:32   be so fucking rich you could potentially [TS]

00:38:33   have a super rescue on the supertrain so [TS]

00:38:35   you don't you just move around very easy [TS]

00:38:36   anything you're gonna have a lot of [TS]

00:38:37   those cool little levers and knobs [TS]

00:38:40   maybe even kind of thing like what maybe [TS]

00:38:42   get one of those one of those with his [TS]

00:38:45   name of the universe guy we could blow [TS]

00:38:47   to make a chair move around or two for [TS]

00:38:49   example say terrible to pay off of this [TS]

00:38:51   picnic ground and put the contents in [TS]

00:38:53   inside of my potato car right because [TS]

00:38:56   i'm not you know when I tear the top off [TS]

00:38:58   of that off the picnic ground [TS]

00:39:00   yeah I'm not just harvesting old plastic [TS]

00:39:01   bags and it's now I'm not just starting [TS]

00:39:03   that into petroleum now there's also all [TS]

00:39:05   those batteries that michael stipe threw [TS]

00:39:07   away fucking 50 years before right that [TS]

00:39:10   are full of who knows what's in those [TS]

00:39:11   batteries it's probably they have a [TS]

00:39:13   solid gold core I've never does not [TS]

00:39:15   currently a lot of stuff and also i know [TS]

00:39:17   i know this from san francisco at what [TS]

00:39:19   people live on the street people will [TS]

00:39:20   get rid of stuff that is still can [TS]

00:39:22   and mostly good little bit about Greece [TS]

00:39:24   and that was trying again so you could [TS]

00:39:25   also have a goodwill car you could have [TS]

00:39:26   a goodwill car or goodwill supertanker [TS]

00:39:29   here's the problem know a lot of that [TS]

00:39:30   stuff has been sitting in a landfill for [TS]

00:39:32   50 years probably like I think people i [TS]

00:39:35   invoke a couch i think the consumer is [TS]

00:39:37   going to get way less picky when they [TS]

00:39:39   can run their lawn mower anymore they [TS]

00:39:40   can't use their butt plugs and they're [TS]

00:39:42   wondering how they're going to get a new [TS]

00:39:43   mr. Potato Head I thought they would not [TS]

00:39:44   be asking questions just gonna say how [TS]

00:39:46   much what you'll also have generations [TS]

00:39:48   of hipsters by that point who will be [TS]

00:39:50   will be so starved for vintage material [TS]

00:39:52   it will be like this is vintage I I know [TS]

00:39:55   it's been sitting in a landfill 50 years [TS]

00:39:57   and it smells like a dump and it's been [TS]

00:39:59   it's like permeated with batteries yes [TS]

00:40:02   and whaleoil but this is this vintage [TS]

00:40:06   couch [TS]

00:40:06   how much will you pay you think I you [TS]

00:40:08   think if you think if you think your [TS]

00:40:10   appreciation of stealers wheel is ironic [TS]

00:40:12   now just wait until I give you a [TS]

00:40:13   literally non-functional a track that [TS]

00:40:15   has little battery acid and human shit [TS]

00:40:17   on it if someone has an if someone is [TS]

00:40:20   listening to this podcast and can only [TS]

00:40:22   appreciate Steelers will i rana CLE yeah [TS]

00:40:24   i will personally come and be your ass [TS]

00:40:27   we we go right there on your train [TS]

00:40:29   because my god Steelers with some beans [TS]

00:40:31   and that was what was Gerry Rafferty was [TS]

00:40:33   in that's right [TS]

00:40:34   mhm um did you see that movie big seen [TS]

00:40:38   that movie remember that which Oh hard [TS]

00:40:40   mod who now second star worst ok come [TS]

00:40:45   back to that I'm sorry please go ahead [TS]

00:40:46   on things we talked about your talk [TS]

00:40:48   about the mr pink movie exactly has been [TS]

00:40:51   tip okay so sorry please continue [TS]

00:40:54   all I'm saying is I I fear you have a [TS]

00:40:56   few questions I'd like Desolator [TS]

00:40:57   follow-up of where you say please [TS]

00:41:00   continue and talk [TS]

00:41:01   Kevin you are please continue but my [TS]

00:41:04   main the main thing I want to ask i [TS]

00:41:05   would like to get just a rough idea just [TS]

00:41:07   generally so I know whether i need to [TS]

00:41:08   start getting weapons is it please don't [TS]

00:41:12   answer now whenever you're done if you [TS]

00:41:13   continue what do you think this will be [TS]

00:41:14   largely benevolent will be we want [TS]

00:41:17   people to proceed we force people to [TS]

00:41:18   perceive it as benevolent or our world [TS]

00:41:20   this will this really truly be like a [TS]

00:41:22   dark dystopian vision where you were you [TS]

00:41:25   really run the entire universe based on [TS]

00:41:28   your capris i think i know the answer [TS]

00:41:30   no power tends to corrupt yeah absolute [TS]

00:41:33   power [TS]

00:41:33   absolutely mr. Lincoln said that was [TS]

00:41:36   that's that's a George Lincoln no no all [TS]

00:41:38   on-site a joint like a rug well the the [TS]

00:41:40   second president the United States [TS]

00:41:41   George Lincoln is that ok uh but but i [TS]

00:41:45   think that one [TS]

00:41:45   what will happen is initially it will be [TS]

00:41:48   presented as an ecological you know i [TS]

00:41:51   will be a benevolent eco-warrior it [TS]

00:41:54   seems like a friendly helpful option [TS]

00:41:56   yeah and the super trains will all be [TS]

00:41:58   painted kind of iphone white and it will [TS]

00:42:02   be and the super crane will also be [TS]

00:42:04   iphone white and it will look like a [TS]

00:42:06   very nice you know how I like people [TS]

00:42:11   will flock to fund this operation I'll [TS]

00:42:16   have lots of IPOs I'll have seven or [TS]

00:42:19   eight IPOs and each one will raise [TS]

00:42:22   billions of dollars and the president [TS]

00:42:25   will shake my hand and it will and I [TS]

00:42:26   will out you know i'm thinking i'll [TS]

00:42:28   dress like Tom Wolfe i'll have like [TS]

00:42:30   three piece cream colored suits you can [TS]

00:42:32   trim your beard and get a walking stick [TS]

00:42:33   a green walking stick I wanna stick made [TS]

00:42:35   out of park benches that used to be milk [TS]

00:42:37   cartons right and people will think [TS]

00:42:39   they'll think John Roderick eco-warrior [TS]

00:42:42   supertrain founder a like hyper [TS]

00:42:46   recyclers how about this how about how [TS]

00:42:48   about this John Roderick white suit eco [TS]

00:42:51   peacemaker he has he's got children [TS]

00:42:55   he's giving jobs to children and on the [TS]

00:42:56   mean way he's excused handing out he's [TS]

00:42:58   going across the country in a green [TS]

00:43:00   train that is literally creating energy [TS]

00:43:01   as it travels across the country you [TS]

00:43:03   know what maybe it's got Wi-Fi [TS]

00:43:04   transmitter so you're helping people [TS]

00:43:06   poor people to get on the internet [TS]

00:43:07   oh my god what about cfl Wi-Fi train you [TS]

00:43:10   give out cfl light bulbs and vegan meals [TS]

00:43:12   but the night is behind this front I [TS]

00:43:14   like kids right on the back you have it [TS]

00:43:16   not not in an unsafe way there's a whole [TS]

00:43:17   section where you can light paper [TS]

00:43:19   airplanes on fire and throw them you [TS]

00:43:21   know in a way that will not start a [TS]

00:43:22   larger fire all all you say this like a [TS]

00:43:26   renewable airplane a source [TS]

00:43:28   well let's say it is another one is not [TS]

00:43:30   non-renewable right looking on with no [TS]

00:43:33   but I don't have to fall for that in a [TS]

00:43:35   second you can people go to whole foods [TS]

00:43:37   they would love that would love this was [TS]

00:43:38   called supertrain supertrain supertrain [TS]

00:43:40   but then as time goes on [TS]

00:43:42   yes of course as I become richer and [TS]

00:43:45   control more and more [TS]

00:43:46   our garbage dumps and more and more [TS]

00:43:49   public parks are disappearing no one can [TS]

00:43:51   play frisbee anymore [TS]

00:43:52   there's no place to picnic anymore the [TS]

00:43:54   supertrain has been there but this one [TS]

00:43:56   who kissed his BMW and and bear are [TS]

00:43:58   doing great [TS]

00:43:59   there have their very happy because [TS]

00:44:01   under the supertrain system everybody's [TS]

00:44:02   making money everybody's happy [TS]

00:44:04   the poor people of cfl light bulbs and [TS]

00:44:06   vegan meals but things are suddenly [TS]

00:44:08   changing that's right son to change [TS]

00:44:10   pretty soon people are addicted to vegan [TS]

00:44:11   meals and where do they get them [TS]

00:44:12   supertrain gonna get anywhere else [TS]

00:44:15   supertrain corner the market pretty soon [TS]

00:44:17   you can't afford to buy am mobile home [TS]

00:44:19   anymore so many super super profits [TS]

00:44:21   parks well and a lot of those mobile [TS]

00:44:23   homes have been recycled by supertrain [TS]

00:44:25   they're all green technology so its [TS]

00:44:27   first it all made sense [TS]

00:44:28   mm I like this a lot yeah I'm burning [TS]

00:44:30   sage and fucking drums and become evil [TS]

00:44:34   super genius i mean it writes itself [TS]

00:44:35   there's no question about it [TS]

00:44:37   yeah you know here's the thing to point [TS]

00:44:39   out with this idea well I see here's the [TS]

00:44:41   thing i don't think anybody can steal [TS]

00:44:43   this idea right so you know success he [TS]

00:44:46   got the execution is a ideas are a [TS]

00:44:49   multiplier of execution something like [TS]

00:44:50   that now look it up later [TS]

00:44:51   the point is does a clever ideas as a [TS]

00:44:53   diamond doesn't it's how you implement [TS]

00:44:55   it right and so here's the thing you [TS]

00:44:57   gotta say to yourself like what would [TS]

00:44:59   like whoohoo do you want having this job [TS]

00:45:01   if you had your choice of different [TS]

00:45:02   dictators I say you want a truly a [TS]

00:45:05   competent dictator who knows where you [TS]

00:45:07   shouldn't pitch a tent if you know what [TS]

00:45:09   i mean i think it was John rock this [TS]

00:45:11   isn't always that doesn't come along and [TS]

00:45:13   they're gonna have their own pale [TS]

00:45:14   version of super train it's gonna it's [TS]

00:45:15   never gonna run flattered and run flash [TS]

00:45:18   the battery's not gonna last for very [TS]

00:45:19   long [TS]

00:45:20   right but they're gonna be all [TS]

00:45:21   copycatting on the supertrain program [TS]

00:45:24   right right and still those garbage [TS]

00:45:25   dumps are going to sit there with a [TS]

00:45:27   little hats on nobody's gonna make [TS]

00:45:28   getting money mr. Potato just sitting [TS]

00:45:29   there doing nothing [TS]

00:45:31   yeah I think I think you don't know I [TS]

00:45:32   just think you can change that already [TS]

00:45:34   figure just by having spoken about it I [TS]

00:45:36   mean normally supergenius wouldn't talk [TS]

00:45:38   about his plan like this until he had [TS]

00:45:41   the hero tied up in value floating over [TS]

00:45:46   the shark tank full of acid exactly tied [TS]

00:45:48   up floating over a shark tank full of [TS]

00:45:50   acid on the supertanker and the [TS]

00:45:53   supertrain branded supertanker that is [TS]

00:45:55   when I would be explaining this whole [TS]

00:45:57   thing to him as i was about to drop into [TS]

00:45:59   the [TS]

00:46:00   shark tank full of acid but I was the [TS]

00:46:03   reason I'm doing it now the reason I'm [TS]

00:46:04   talking about it now is that I'm very [TS]

00:46:06   confident that it will produce some [TS]

00:46:08   fanart which i'm going to use to [TS]

00:46:11   galvanize oh they call it where the [TS]

00:46:14   college instead of grassroots that call [TS]

00:46:16   it uh the astroturfing is that what [TS]

00:46:19   you're calling i'm master turfing you're [TS]

00:46:21   a surfing [TS]

00:46:22   yeah you don't think about this and I [TS]

00:46:24   want to say those in the camera might be [TS]

00:46:25   Billy Jack Kapp pressure is Billy Jack [TS]

00:46:27   where the guy says the guys the guys [TS]

00:46:29   facing off with this actually kind of [TS]

00:46:31   elderly man who actually memory serves [TS]

00:46:32   may have been dressed as colonel sanders [TS]

00:46:33   but whatever call is billy jack or maybe [TS]

00:46:36   maybe different movie I'm told he says [TS]

00:46:38   something along the lines of you know [TS]

00:46:39   i'm going to do i'm gonna i'm gonna kick [TS]

00:46:42   you on this side of your face with this [TS]

00:46:46   foot and you know what [TS]

00:46:49   there is not a damn thing you can do [TS]

00:46:51   about it you know it does he fucking [TS]

00:46:54   kicks him in the face with that foot [TS]

00:46:57   yeah and you know what can just say [TS]

00:46:58   there was not a damn thing that I could [TS]

00:47:00   go back I could do [TS]

00:47:01   uh-huh what I want is a blt mmm i want [TS]

00:47:05   you to hold the lettuce I want to [TS]

00:47:07   holding your knee tomato between your [TS]

00:47:10   knees [TS]

00:47:11   you know once you get into as as the as [TS]

00:47:16   the president for life of the supertrain [TS]

00:47:18   industries I think you're going to very [TS]

00:47:19   easily be able to have these kinds of [TS]

00:47:21   conversations with people who actually [TS]

00:47:22   literally can't do anything about it [TS]

00:47:24   yeah well I hope so you know i got my [TS]

00:47:26   problem i present project [TS]

00:47:28   here's my present plan oh I can't wait [TS]

00:47:30   to hear about this i got a good plan my [TS]

00:47:32   present plan is that all through silicon [TS]

00:47:34   valley and in seattle to they're all [TS]

00:47:36   these startups is a these a tech [TS]

00:47:40   startups where people who are working in [TS]

00:47:44   the tech industry are all sort of in [TS]

00:47:46   this mutual masturbation society where [TS]

00:47:48   they all think they know what the what [TS]

00:47:50   the world is made of and what the world [TS]

00:47:51   needs and they're making apps and [TS]

00:47:53   they're launching apps and they're [TS]

00:47:54   launching sites and they're making text [TS]

00:47:57   and their tech and makes and whatever it [TS]

00:47:59   is the people are doing and they're all [TS]

00:48:01   on each other's boards of directors and [TS]

00:48:02   they're all making ipos thought leaders [TS]

00:48:05   there thought leaders well they think [TS]

00:48:07   they are [TS]

00:48:07   who [TS]

00:48:08   but but here's the problem is the [TS]

00:48:12   problem another there's not a single [TS]

00:48:14   person on any of those boards of [TS]

00:48:16   directors with real-world experience and [TS]

00:48:20   I bring that kind of real-world [TS]

00:48:22   experience to the table so my current [TS]

00:48:25   plan is to start marketing myself as a [TS]

00:48:27   potential member of the board of [TS]

00:48:30   directors of some of these internet [TS]

00:48:32   startup companies because they really [TS]

00:48:34   need somebody that can speak truth to [TS]

00:48:36   power they need somebody who has thrown [TS]

00:48:38   stuff out of a high-rise they need [TS]

00:48:40   somebody who once had a pilot's license [TS]

00:48:42   they need somebody with this kind of [TS]

00:48:43   real-world experience to help guide them [TS]

00:48:45   through the rocky because you see a lot [TS]

00:48:46   of these lot of these companies you know [TS]

00:48:48   they are like a flash in the pan right [TS]

00:48:50   they arc across the sky with him and [TS]

00:48:52   then been to put civil if they had me on [TS]

00:48:56   their board of directors tell him like [TS]

00:48:59   it was right [TS]

00:49:00   tell them hey you guys don't need to [TS]

00:49:01   speak in a fake southern accent to sell [TS]

00:49:03   your app in the South you just speak in [TS]

00:49:06   your regular brooklynny regular stupid [TS]

00:49:08   Stanford accent just talking to Stanford [TS]

00:49:11   accent and people are going to are going [TS]

00:49:12   to buy or not buy it based on whether or [TS]

00:49:15   not it's a useful app that works on the [TS]

00:49:17   iphone this is the amazing part that [TS]

00:49:18   John is these guys the ones who they're [TS]

00:49:21   taking mix and making Texan and and [TS]

00:49:23   taken what was your phrase tekken makes [TS]

00:49:25   it kinda makes them their help that's [TS]

00:49:27   like tex-mex they're out there doing all [TS]

00:49:29   this stuff and like the ones I I'm [TS]

00:49:31   serial entrepreneur I've had all these [TS]

00:49:32   different startups the ones who consider [TS]

00:49:34   themselves really smart and really as we [TS]

00:49:36   say in the business forward-looking if [TS]

00:49:37   they are really looking as forward as [TS]

00:49:39   they claim to be with their [TS]

00:49:40   forward-looking they are going to want [TS]

00:49:41   to be on the good side of the chi your [TS]

00:49:44   super that's exactly what not it's not [TS]

00:49:47   precisely extortion its priests torsion [TS]

00:49:50   its priests or from it's just a way of [TS]

00:49:52   saying you know hey you know you're [TS]

00:49:54   gonna have a real pretty daughter [TS]

00:49:55   someday it if it would be a shame if at [TS]

00:49:57   some point something were to happen to [TS]

00:49:59   her was only being extremely costly [TS]

00:50:00   train i do that around seattle all the [TS]

00:50:02   time when people people like you know [TS]

00:50:05   there are a lot of people at the [TS]

00:50:05   interact with people at the mayor's [TS]

00:50:07   office i interact with a lot of those [TS]

00:50:09   people that are part of the part part of [TS]

00:50:11   the the the machine here [TS]

00:50:14   yeah and and quarters power the quarters [TS]

00:50:17   power and I don't even have to say it [TS]

00:50:18   it's just understood [TS]

00:50:21   among these people like I I don't know [TS]

00:50:24   what Roderick does I don't even know why [TS]

00:50:26   he's here at this meeting isn't he a [TS]

00:50:29   singer songwriter is he here [TS]

00:50:33   why is he so involved in civics but at [TS]

00:50:35   the same time the mirror is listening to [TS]

00:50:38   him so there will come a time maybe when [TS]

00:50:42   I don't want to be on the wrong side of [TS]

00:50:44   him i don't know why i'm gonna i'm gonna [TS]

00:50:47   be nice to him and give him what he [TS]

00:50:49   wants and how your dad started [TS]

00:50:52   it's a how everybody in power starts you [TS]

00:50:55   just end up you show up places and [TS]

00:50:57   people go why is he here and then they [TS]

00:51:01   go well I'd better not cross them and if [TS]

00:51:04   enough people do that then pretty soon [TS]

00:51:06   you walk in a room and everybody [TS]

00:51:08   applauds which is crazy guy I follows a [TS]

00:51:11   better applied they have any sense [TS]

00:51:12   here's the thing there's a guy in my [TS]

00:51:13   neighborhood we've got a handful of [TS]

00:51:15   really colorful guys in my neighborhood [TS]

00:51:17   by which i mean crazy homeless guys and [TS]

00:51:18   one of these guys who I tend to avoid [TS]

00:51:20   because he cycles you know as you do [TS]

00:51:23   maybe use a bicyclist or he is he's got [TS]

00:51:27   a fixie and went by well he's I think [TS]

00:51:29   he's bipolar or something or maybe it's [TS]

00:51:31   me and my girlfriend is so you're saying [TS]

00:51:33   he cycles through many phases [TS]

00:51:36   well he has days where he doesn't stand [TS]

00:51:40   in the street throwing fried rice and [TS]

00:51:41   pigeons days when he does and that as a [TS]

00:51:45   kind of cyclic both pieces wheel it [TS]

00:51:48   turns around and around and here's the [TS]

00:51:50   thing i avoid this guy because I don't [TS]

00:51:51   want your fucking fried rice thrown at [TS]

00:51:53   me [TS]

00:51:53   I mean I freestanding dresser you're [TS]

00:51:55   clearly not a pigeon ok and as much as I [TS]

00:51:57   don't like to admit i do go to the KFC / [TS]

00:52:00   talk about which as you know is near my [TS]

00:52:01   home I go in there and probably three [TS]

00:52:04   out of five times I go in there that guy [TS]

00:52:06   is in there this guy i'm pretty sure [TS]

00:52:08   does not have a lot of dough but every [TS]

00:52:09   time I'm going on but I should smile [TS]

00:52:11   more he wears a baby like basically a [TS]

00:52:13   filthy sweatpants any ties lots of [TS]

00:52:15   plastic newspaper bags around parts of [TS]

00:52:17   his body and he has kind of an ad-hoc [TS]

00:52:19   real san franciscans yeah he was kind of [TS]

00:52:22   like maybe if you took like me like an [TS]

00:52:25   acid helmet out of you i got like a [TS]

00:52:26   bandana kind of thing out of like a rag [TS]

00:52:29   you'd use to clean off tools of the car [TS]

00:52:30   he was out on his head is very large [TS]

00:52:32   salt-and-pepper beard it [TS]

00:52:34   little bit like a young Oliver Sacks [TS]

00:52:35   need to shit out some fucking chicken I [TS]

00:52:37   think mind if I was this guy I would be [TS]

00:52:38   very careful about how close I got to [TS]

00:52:41   supertrain not like yeah it's looking [TS]

00:52:45   right might just pluck him hit the big [TS]

00:52:48   claw with these sounds there is the [TS]

00:52:51   sound of intersection B when he needs to [TS]

00:52:55   worry about is being reusable he just [TS]

00:52:57   super trains gonna have a lot of [TS]

00:52:58   Technology are definitely better than [TS]

00:53:00   calculate the captain bird hate is not [TS]

00:53:01   going to be ready for so it is kind of [TS]

00:53:04   funny you know me I you know my brain [TS]

00:53:05   like icic things I tell stories and he [TS]

00:53:08   said he to kentucky fried chicken but he [TS]

00:53:10   hates burn fucking he throws he stands [TS]

00:53:12   in the street taking handfuls looking at [TS]

00:53:15   people leave food around hehe find some [TS]

00:53:17   fried rice from like the thai place he's [TS]

00:53:19   fucking screaming in the middle terrible [TS]

00:53:21   street and throwing rice at pigeons and [TS]

00:53:23   the pigeons are just fucking with him at [TS]

00:53:24   first you're like obviously that guy's [TS]

00:53:25   crazy then pretty soon what if you're a [TS]

00:53:27   pigeon and somebody's going to recognize [TS]

00:53:29   you when I was found exactly although [TS]

00:53:31   throw me in the briar patch [TS]

00:53:33   so they're they're they're just fucking [TS]

00:53:34   laughing they're just seen an arrow that [TS]

00:53:36   though [TS]

00:53:36   first of all he has to know that when it [TS]

00:53:38   but she does know John he's crazy [TS]

00:53:40   that's the problem so here he is i go [TS]

00:53:42   into out of 5 times i go to the KFC he's [TS]

00:53:44   sitting there and and he is [TS]

00:53:46   I've never seen anybody eat angrier than [TS]

00:53:48   bird guy he's fucking going after some [TS]

00:53:51   dark meat [TS]

00:53:52   it's his beard is shiny he's he's doing [TS]

00:53:55   it and you know what I've never seen the [TS]

00:53:56   night ever ever ever pay so I I the [TS]

00:54:00   things I haven't asked but you know me [TS]

00:54:01   in my head now I'm wondering about [TS]

00:54:02   things right you know maybe supertrain [TS]

00:54:05   has an answer for this at some point but [TS]

00:54:07   i'm saying is i don't know if they're [TS]

00:54:08   doing this out of charity I think [TS]

00:54:10   they're not busy digging in the trash [TS]

00:54:12   and just pulling out his number he's [TS]

00:54:14   sitting right at the table next to my [TS]

00:54:16   daughter and I are enjoying a cookie he [TS]

00:54:17   is sitting there and literally shoving [TS]

00:54:19   dead dead fried bird into his face [TS]

00:54:21   literally you get cookies at KFC taco I [TS]

00:54:24   don't have to eat the chicken that's not [TS]

00:54:25   healthy [TS]

00:54:26   oh no man yeah are and so and so and so [TS]

00:54:30   i don't know i could come out i'm sorry [TS]

00:54:31   i'm not precisely sure what you think [TS]

00:54:33   even fried chicken that's made with [TS]

00:54:34   Jesus panky I go there a lot all right [TS]

00:54:37   they have those chicken bits now there's [TS]

00:54:39   nothing that isn't wrong with KFC every [TS]

00:54:42   single aspect of KFC has something [TS]

00:54:44   that's wrong with it [TS]

00:54:45   the messaging the posters the foot [TS]

00:54:47   ography certainly the oil that they make [TS]

00:54:50   things and every single to all the [TS]

00:54:51   signage don't even get me started on the [TS]

00:54:53   scientific photograph the signs for you [TS]

00:54:54   where they got work colonel sanders is [TS]

00:54:57   no longer a person is just 200 nikon own [TS]

00:55:00   action figure [TS]

00:55:01   no no I like that in mind that you know [TS]

00:55:02   we got a big bucket here but the butt is [TS]

00:55:03   bigger than you think because of what is [TS]

00:55:05   known artist for shortening the buckets [TS]

00:55:06   actually quite large but you're kind of [TS]

00:55:08   mention one other thing in passing that [TS]

00:55:09   the you know who likes to sit around the [TS]

00:55:12   rim of the bucket Birds a bird turds [TS]

00:55:16   mhm birds so I know what they know which [TS]

00:55:19   side they're I mean they're they're [TS]

00:55:20   they're cannibals those but much like [TS]

00:55:22   the man throwing the rice i think [TS]

00:55:24   there's a certain kind of a what [TS]

00:55:26   self-destruction need for self harm but [TS]

00:55:28   all I know is that guys getting fucking [TS]

00:55:29   free chicken and I'm not maybe maybe I [TS]

00:55:31   just haven't asked enough Pauline I [TS]

00:55:33   don't think listen soldier envious of [TS]

00:55:35   the guy with the plastic bags around his [TS]

00:55:37   land is a strong word i was just always [TS]

00:55:38   rejected and then be so damn jealous i [TS]

00:55:41   want him to not have it either i see now [TS]

00:55:43   that's not accurate but I anyway I [TS]

00:55:47   understand what you're saying [TS]

00:55:48   I think super trains gonna solve all of [TS]

00:55:50   those are super trip going to solve [TS]

00:55:52   these problems but i'm saying there's a [TS]

00:55:53   lot of there's a lot of complexity in [TS]

00:55:55   America has a lot of stories to tell ya [TS]

00:55:57   you know you know and a lot of people [TS]

00:55:58   are going to need help now [TS]

00:55:59   hmm actually gets a job I don't want to [TS]

00:56:02   get away with pink slime do you know [TS]

00:56:03   what pink slime is this different from [TS]

00:56:05   grey goo skirt while the guy that makes [TS]

00:56:07   the keyboards that makes the great great [TS]

00:56:09   GU that's just ray kurzweil rights while [TS]

00:56:11   makes the keyboards not Robert yoke [TS]

00:56:13   tmobile move how do you say that [TS]

00:56:16   well I you say mood because you're not a [TS]

00:56:18   dope but if you know only if your if [TS]

00:56:20   your music industry dope and you want to [TS]

00:56:22   call him by his real name its mode how [TS]

00:56:24   do you pronounce the french film [TS]

00:56:26   festival that is a homonym with what you [TS]

00:56:28   drink a coke out on I think it's can [TS]

00:56:30   Kim's I think on is fake white trashy [TS]

00:56:34   patois I think you're doing I think [TS]

00:56:36   people sorry alright it's ok you might [TS]

00:56:38   be united the Cannes Film I don't as [TS]

00:56:41   your as your as your Boswell or excuse [TS]

00:56:43   me as your paws well I think you may be [TS]

00:56:45   at least spending rule number two the [TS]

00:56:47   patchwork problem how do you how do you [TS]

00:56:49   pronounce the capital of Vermont up here [TS]

00:56:54   montpellier montpelier right my peeler I [TS]

00:56:59   guess montpelier montpelier Montpellier [TS]

00:57:01   you don't know shit from montpelier like [TS]

00:57:05   a whole Houston Houston thing and then [TS]

00:57:07   again this is more ways that New York is [TS]

00:57:08   trying to fuck us and I'm gonna be glad [TS]

00:57:10   when super train drops that giant [TS]

00:57:12   fucking claw on New York no offense to [TS]

00:57:14   our friends who live there are a lot of [TS]

00:57:15   people in New most of our friends have [TS]

00:57:17   moved out of Manhattan and I think [TS]

00:57:19   that's smart [TS]

00:57:19   there's a lot of trains in Manhattan I [TS]

00:57:21   think super train is going to have a [TS]

00:57:22   huge influence over all of that [TS]

00:57:24   monstrosity that we call Manhattan this [TS]

00:57:26   is a good question is will supertrain be [TS]

00:57:28   able to because as i am working to [TS]

00:57:31   convert people in America over to my way [TS]

00:57:34   of thinking will supertrain also be [TS]

00:57:36   converting the other trains [TS]

00:57:38   oh IC can happen you will speak train to [TS]

00:57:41   them [TS]

00:57:41   collapse it will speak you speak train [TS]

00:57:43   fluently and not any kind of a junkie [TS]

00:57:45   Bronx patois I don't you're gonna you're [TS]

00:57:47   gonna have something like a hundred and [TS]

00:57:48   sixty years of parallel tracks behind [TS]

00:57:51   you on all of this i think it is it's [TS]

00:57:53   again it's like the treaty of versailles [TS]

00:57:55   let's be honest people are going to be [TS]

00:57:56   looking for a hero i think there are a [TS]

00:57:57   lot of trains out there they're not [TS]

00:57:58   happy with their work there are so many [TS]

00:58:00   great trains and they're held back by by [TS]

00:58:03   by people with insufficient vision oh [TS]

00:58:06   yeah especially the law I mean when now [TS]

00:58:08   when a lot of those laws were signed I [TS]

00:58:10   think those trains already felt a little [TS]

00:58:11   bit and let's just be on a little bit [TS]

00:58:13   neuter there's things they couldn't do [TS]

00:58:15   sure [TS]

00:58:15   well the whole amtrak business I mean [TS]

00:58:17   why is there even a damn track it makes [TS]

00:58:19   me so mad [TS]

00:58:19   this was a should just call it rolling [TS]

00:58:21   vagina what about what about that train [TS]

00:58:24   that was going to go from New York to LA [TS]

00:58:25   and five hours because it was in a [TS]

00:58:26   vacuum tube under the ground all come on [TS]

00:58:29   it's not into that train that this can [TS]

00:58:31   be a tube train you do not ever read [TS]

00:58:33   popular science magazine I can't know [TS]

00:58:35   about mag Lau's well that so you take [TS]

00:58:38   mad Meg lab and put into you put in tube [TS]

00:58:41   and then you vacuum all the air out so [TS]

00:58:43   there's no resistance [TS]

00:58:45   I didn't allowed to have their in the [TS]

00:58:46   train oh yeah you have them air [TS]

00:58:48   compression of some kind [TS]

00:58:49   the train is compressed like an airplane [TS]

00:58:51   ok the Train the Train is a you know [TS]

00:58:54   it's a sealed within minutes [TS]

00:58:56   well yes it would be a super to beat [TS]

00:58:58   they have incredible food because it [TS]

00:59:00   would probably cost 20 million dollars [TS]

00:59:03   to ride this train because it because [TS]

00:59:05   how much would it cost to build a [TS]

00:59:07   compressor eyes tube from New York LA [TS]

00:59:09   would cost a lot of money [TS]

00:59:10   yes but [TS]

00:59:12   he probably would have to probably move [TS]

00:59:14   a few things around if you did it you [TS]

00:59:16   could have a train that went from New [TS]

00:59:17   York LA almost as fast as an airplane [TS]

00:59:20   but being in your underground which is [TS]

00:59:23   pretty appealing i think it would be [TS]

00:59:24   even faster i think it I think if you [TS]

00:59:26   had Meg if it was magnetically levitated [TS]

00:59:29   and you had no air resistance [TS]

00:59:31   uh-huh you could go conceivably [TS]

00:59:35   faster-than-light and even though that's [TS]

00:59:38   based on science saying that faster than [TS]

00:59:40   fast you would it would be it would be [TS]

00:59:42   so fast [TS]

00:59:44   yeah you'd get there i think you could [TS]

00:59:45   go as fast as its safe and practical [TS]

00:59:47   which is which is not true with a plane [TS]

00:59:48   plans got a lot of problems a lot of [TS]

00:59:50   overhead you ever do this you have to go [TS]

00:59:52   somewhere in the like northeast corridor [TS]

00:59:55   but you have to study you know go [TS]

00:59:57   through new york i'm telling you i [TS]

00:59:58   always do the math and it's frequently [TS]

00:59:58   always do the math and it's frequently [TS]

01:00:00   think faster jump on a fucking peter pan [TS]

01:00:01   bus rather than like do anything [TS]

01:00:03   involving changing at an airport [TS]

01:00:05   oh absolutely i went to Connecticut I [TS]

01:00:07   did that when I want the records i did [TS]

01:00:08   that it was all it's just so much easier [TS]

01:00:10   I mean if you don't saying that reflects [TS]

01:00:13   its burden runner car to fly to [TS]

01:00:15   Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Pittsburgh is [TS]

01:00:16   still there that still considered [TS]

01:00:17   incorporated city [TS]

01:00:19   yeah Pittsburgh is still there and in [TS]

01:00:21   fact there's that guy that bald that [TS]

01:00:23   bald kid who's the mayor of like one of [TS]

01:00:27   those outlying factory towns whose [TS]

01:00:28   turned his little town into a mecca of [TS]

01:00:31   entrepreneurship sitting here with this [TS]

01:00:34   essay NPR story [TS]

01:00:35   ok I i think i read about it in Parade [TS]

01:00:38   magazine or maybe I read about it in the [TS]

01:00:40   United Airlines in-flight magazine [TS]

01:00:41   pretty but it's but it's a guy and he's [TS]

01:00:45   like my age is your age [TS]

01:00:47   he's our age but he's a big guys both [TS]

01:00:50   part of the supertrain generation he's [TS]

01:00:52   super trade generations ball these [TS]

01:00:53   providers 350 pounds and got himself [TS]

01:00:56   elected mayor of this town where all the [TS]

01:01:00   factories closed it's like a Billy Joel [TS]

01:01:02   song yeah and and therefore i'm standing [TS]

01:01:06   in line [TS]

01:01:06   yeah the Union people go away I don't [TS]

01:01:11   know the lyrics so that they know um but [TS]

01:01:15   eat and he's turning this town into some [TS]

01:01:17   kind of he's trying to turn it into well [TS]

01:01:20   if you read Parade magazine yeah he's [TS]

01:01:22   turning it into utopia if you've ever [TS]

01:01:24   been on the ground in that part of the [TS]

01:01:25   country you know that he's just trying [TS]

01:01:27   to keep like the radioactive devil dogs [TS]

01:01:29   from eating children like read and write [TS]

01:01:31   a script they call it a temp incubator [TS]

01:01:34   you know like he's he's just trying to [TS]

01:01:37   keep the glacier furs what kind of dogs [TS]

01:01:40   i want to write this down what kind of [TS]

01:01:41   dogs radioactive double-dog internal [TS]

01:01:44   there right through that whole area was [TS]

01:01:45   a minor league baseball team is [TS]

01:01:46   basically standing out there with a Bic [TS]

01:01:49   lighter on that at the at the front edge [TS]

01:01:52   of a glacier and he's trying he's trying [TS]

01:01:55   to hold it back he's melted back with [TS]

01:01:56   his with his leg haha thats its plan [TS]

01:01:59   uh-huh but anyway he's consistently [TS]

01:02:01   admire him a little bit though because [TS]

01:02:03   weight or terror is is prestige it's [TS]

01:02:05   like you admire him a little bit you [TS]

01:02:06   look at me do I [TS]

01:02:08   write your sizing him up thing is you [TS]

01:02:09   know he is mayor of of like ass people [TS]

01:02:13   of Pennsylvania you more than i can send [TS]

01:02:16   you portray needs him and he needs [TS]

01:02:18   supertrain think it's true that they're [TS]

01:02:20   going to run out at some point he's [TS]

01:02:21   gonna have to he's gonna want to shove [TS]

01:02:22   some mr. potato head into that and [TS]

01:02:23   that's only available with your giant [TS]

01:02:25   fucking crane hand [TS]

01:02:26   well and he's a visionary I'm a [TS]

01:02:28   visionary we're going to meet at the ted [TS]

01:02:29   conference because that's where [TS]

01:02:31   visionaries go [TS]

01:02:32   what you got destroyed is there anything [TS]

01:02:34   outside when it's personal favorites [TS]

01:02:35   were not close enough to do that but is [TS]

01:02:36   there any chance that you just destroyed [TS]

01:02:37   the ted conference just replace it with [TS]

01:02:39   something much more supertrain like [TS]

01:02:40   having the ted conference is doing a [TS]

01:02:42   very good job of destroying itself [TS]

01:02:44   ok you know like if you think about [TS]

01:02:46   having a conference maybe an apparent [TS]

01:02:47   literally on a parallel track supertrain [TS]

01:02:49   here's here's what's happening to the [TS]

01:02:51   ted conference it has already become a [TS]

01:02:52   brand it's like I went to I thought I [TS]

01:02:55   went to marshalls the other day [TS]

01:02:57   well first of all I went to ross that's [TS]

01:02:59   the new pill because i was looking for a [TS]

01:03:01   blanket haha i have enough pillows but I [TS]

01:03:03   was looking for a blanket because I [TS]

01:03:05   blankets were dirty and the only way you [TS]

01:03:07   can only we could watch a blanket isn't [TS]

01:03:09   one of those super size blanket washing [TS]

01:03:11   washing machines that at the laundromat [TS]

01:03:13   which wich supertrain will have 8 to 10 [TS]

01:03:15   of and I hate going to the laundromat so [TS]

01:03:17   late what I'm gonna do I'm gonna buy a [TS]

01:03:19   new blanket i'm gonna put these dirty [TS]

01:03:20   blankets in the closet [TS]

01:03:21   I'm gonna go buy any blank and so I go [TS]

01:03:23   to go to the Ross but all the ross [TS]

01:03:25   blankets are there that's gross [TS]

01:03:28   they're gross there so i went to [TS]

01:03:29   marshalls because it's a higher calorie [TS]

01:03:31   the higher quality blanket store and i [TS]

01:03:36   discovered that there are blankets [TS]

01:03:38   there's a betting let's let's call it [TS]

01:03:40   betting there's betting branded with [TS]

01:03:43   Valerie Bertinelli's face it's the [TS]

01:03:47   valerie bertinelli line of of abetting [TS]

01:03:51   in home-home out home fun is it [TS]

01:03:56   remainder items from somewhere besides [TS]

01:03:58   marshals or is this an exclusive to the [TS]

01:04:00   Moto Norris brand its remaindered i'm [TS]

01:04:02   sure the valerie bertinelli line is only [TS]

01:04:04   available in the finest department [TS]

01:04:05   stores huh and it's got a picture of [TS]

01:04:08   Valerie and it's not Nelly blanket [TS]

01:04:10   yeah and it's not a picture of Valerie [TS]

01:04:12   Valerie I it's not the one I would have [TS]

01:04:14   picked yeah you know like I would have [TS]

01:04:16   picked she's in the baseball cap just a [TS]

01:04:18   little and live with and Romano well [TS]

01:04:20   that's the 1i would [TS]

01:04:21   let me to from my fanfic but no the-the [TS]

01:04:24   it's a picture of her but it you know [TS]

01:04:25   they tried to make her hair look like it [TS]

01:04:27   blown in the wind and she don't know she [TS]

01:04:29   looks like she did that Jaclyn Smith [TS]

01:04:31   stay at sears to ya [TS]

01:04:33   everything about it is well first of all [TS]

01:04:35   I didn't realize that Valerie [TS]

01:04:36   personality for Valerie Bertinelli still [TS]

01:04:38   had enough cultural cachet that that [TS]

01:04:40   people trusted her to sell them their [TS]

01:04:43   their household goods but also it was i [TS]

01:04:47   was really i really noticed how much she [TS]

01:04:51   and eddie van halen who already looked [TS]

01:04:53   like when they met grew to look almost [TS]

01:04:56   exactly aligned now I mean any van Halen [TS]

01:04:59   looks like a desiccated version of her [TS]

01:05:01   you know I mean like if you took Valerie [TS]

01:05:03   Bertinelli and you put her in a fruit [TS]

01:05:05   dehumidifier it would look like any man [TS]

01:05:08   hailing but she got pumped up a little [TS]

01:05:11   bit [TS]

01:05:11   well no like a dehumidifier she got all [TS]

01:05:13   the Bibble all he wanted ya to make the [TS]

01:05:17   raisin back into a grape that would be [TS]

01:05:19   Valerie Bertinelli yeah wow yeah yeah I [TS]

01:05:23   didn't inhale and like like god bless [TS]

01:05:24   and like Mick Jagger well I think it's [TS]

01:05:27   smoking it does that I think they look [TS]

01:05:30   they both look like they've been in a [TS]

01:05:31   smoker i think that it would like wood [TS]

01:05:39   chips [TS]

01:05:39   yeah I think they have been that they [TS]

01:05:42   had been woodchips mode i think they're [TS]

01:05:44   undercover in some kind of regional [TS]

01:05:46   sauce in the next couple hours if I if [TS]

01:05:49   if I was a cannibal there would not be [TS]

01:05:52   enough meat on any van Halen I mika to [TS]

01:05:56   get me going through the afternoon [TS]

01:05:57   you're so bomb my cat they left oh my [TS]

01:06:00   god guys fry up some folks making steaks [TS]

01:06:05   i was wrong i was done was wrong about [TS]

01:06:09   him you know what happened I i was I [TS]

01:06:12   thought he was the weak link but you [TS]

01:06:13   realized was on the show this Bill's [TS]

01:06:15   their ears before the show right now I [TS]

01:06:17   said this what we've this isn't one of [TS]

01:06:19   our many many you know the visits that [TS]

01:06:22   led up to this are only partly [TS]

01:06:24   conversations when I don't generally [TS]

01:06:26   other band the beatles I think this [TS]

01:06:28   might be one of the evergreen ones that [TS]

01:06:31   I continue to stand behind at least [TS]

01:06:32   twice or three times [TS]

01:06:34   and you were adamantly oddly enough [TS]

01:06:37   adamant about saying I was wrong about [TS]

01:06:38   what is that was weird [TS]

01:06:41   is is mike anthony in fact a competent [TS]

01:06:46   let alone good bass player and ready [TS]

01:06:49   help to memory serves how to extremely [TS]

01:06:52   different points of view let's put it [TS]

01:06:53   this way [TS]

01:06:54   yes but also was he even a fucking [TS]

01:06:56   important part of Van Halen and can you [TS]

01:06:59   can you reiterate your stand [TS]

01:07:01   I was some fucking wrong about [TS]

01:07:03   everything my stand was that out my [TS]

01:07:05   here's my case here's might wanna hear [TS]

01:07:06   my own I'm here by eight note Mike [TS]

01:07:10   Anthony joke ready mm-hmm [TS]

01:07:14   okay here's the thing [TS]

01:07:18   yeah signature baseline used to make [TS]

01:07:22   that sound with my mouth when I want to [TS]

01:07:23   make funny should do plenty of just one [TS]

01:07:25   measure because that's kind of boring [TS]

01:07:26   alright and to me that represented and [TS]

01:07:30   then like to me always biggest movies [TS]

01:07:31   hey Alexander Jackman's basically do [TS]

01:07:33   that thing where where that real de [TS]

01:07:35   lesbianas kind of a dish thing we don't [TS]

01:07:37   pump your fist UK pump your fist [TS]

01:07:40   laterally with your left hand while you [TS]

01:07:42   hit open a or e never lets very winger [TS]

01:07:46   is really super winger you know what I [TS]

01:07:48   just say on many counts [TS]

01:07:50   I was dead wrong on the new record which [TS]

01:07:52   is not great but ok it's got moments [TS]

01:07:55   where they have replicated the super [TS]

01:07:57   important harmonies Edward I thought it [TS]

01:08:00   was Edward Edwards in there but he's not [TS]

01:08:02   the crucial harmony right Jamie was the [TS]

01:08:04   crucial right by harmony Hannah he does [TS]

01:08:08   him ok so Eddie was singing along again [TS]

01:08:10   his mouth along was he really singing he [TS]

01:08:14   he had the linda mccartney Mike I think [TS]

01:08:16   oh gosh yeeeaahhh McCartney switch if [TS]

01:08:18   you think okay so like when they're [TS]

01:08:19   recording with Ted though like when with [TS]

01:08:22   the stairs like 30 to look at the three [TS]

01:08:25   harmonies you think Mike was doing like [TS]

01:08:26   this delicate like a three-part harmony [TS]

01:08:28   at least is it you know you mind Dave [TS]

01:08:30   had harmonies that he was like oh hey [TS]

01:08:32   man give me a microphone Wow [TS]

01:08:34   but I mean you can hear that on [TS]

01:08:36   definitely hear that on sun from the [TS]

01:08:38   first couple records especially when [TS]

01:08:40   they do you notice there's the tight [TS]

01:08:41   harmony van Hoek so delicious ticularly [TS]

01:08:45   van Halen there's the tight harmony like [TS]

01:08:47   sounds like a fucking glorious machine [TS]

01:08:49   harmonies and then there's the slightly [TS]

01:08:51   more rowdy sing-along harmonies were [TS]

01:08:53   Daytona sing-along Harmons but I you [TS]

01:08:56   know who knows who knows what he then [TS]

01:08:58   Helen singing talents are [TS]

01:08:59   he's a great musician yeah it's like [TS]

01:09:01   these things along that's nicely a [TS]

01:09:03   sing-along key element here is where ru [TS]

01:09:06   uuu it back in the eighties and if [TS]

01:09:09   anybody had to pick a weak link of REM [TS]

01:09:11   it would have been bilberry every time [TS]

01:09:13   haha sickening but it turns out turns [TS]

01:09:17   out only one is the only one with any [TS]

01:09:20   taste he's the only one with any sense [TS]

01:09:21   of what is a good pop song is because as [TS]

01:09:24   soon as he left the band they couldn't [TS]

01:09:25   pick their songs they couldn't he was [TS]

01:09:28   the guy he was like he was there Tommy [TS]

01:09:30   he's the one who kept the taste up he [TS]

01:09:31   was the one that was like Michael you [TS]

01:09:34   know that's not a very good lyric or I [TS]

01:09:36   don't think that's a good song I don't [TS]

01:09:37   know what he was doing [TS]

01:09:38   who but he was the one that decided what [TS]

01:09:43   the good songs were and once he was gone [TS]

01:09:45   michael stipe was the only nobody could [TS]

01:09:48   say anything to michaels next time [TS]

01:09:49   you're sitting around not drinking wine [TS]

01:09:51   with mike mills i would like you to have [TS]

01:09:53   the supertrain stones to ask about that [TS]

01:09:55   mm because I bet he has a different [TS]

01:09:57   point of view you know micro myselfi [TS]

01:10:00   once accused me of being a homophobe osu [TS]

01:10:04   like houses here because i don't like [TS]

01:10:07   words that sounded like oh of course I'm [TS]

01:10:10   sorry I think I'm sorry how a homophobe [TS]

01:10:14   hmm but but that was because mike mills [TS]

01:10:16   that had four bottles of wine at that [TS]

01:10:18   point and he didn't he didn't really [TS]

01:10:20   meant something else too [TS]

01:10:21   he was doing was talking people he [TS]

01:10:23   turned and he was talking to the fern [TS]

01:10:25   yes next to him at the restaurant and I [TS]

01:10:27   happen to be you know not on that side [TS]

01:10:30   of the tape God alcoholic bass players [TS]

01:10:31   are out there getting in front of this [TS]

01:10:32   on behalf of our nation's homosexuals [TS]

01:10:35   it must be nice to have a friend in me [TS]

01:10:36   any letter brace i'ma show in town a few [TS]

01:10:40   years back and you know what nevermind [TS]

01:10:43   he seemed fine hee-hee-hee-hee-hee read [TS]

01:10:46   a little creepy to me look creepy you [TS]

01:10:48   know I read creepy red creepy in the [TS]

01:10:50   room he read as i'm mike mills in like a [TS]

01:10:52   todd rundgren circus 72 outfit like [TS]

01:10:54   spangly granny granny good yeah that [TS]

01:10:56   kind of thing [TS]

01:10:57   yeah the thing about REM is that in a [TS]

01:11:01   min [TS]

01:11:01   way I feel like REM became a cult but [TS]

01:11:05   but that the mine 82 they were also i [TS]

01:11:08   mean sure they were called to like to [TS]

01:11:10   Korsar you mean that you mean that the [TS]

01:11:12   the talent was a cult [TS]

01:11:13   yeah I'm saying yes they were called to [TS]

01:11:15   girls in Rhea Rhea and skirts but they [TS]

01:11:21   were a cult within that where the [TS]

01:11:23   members of the band were actually in the [TS]

01:11:25   cult themselves and it was hard to tell [TS]

01:11:28   who was making the rules of the cult you [TS]

01:11:32   know Mike Mills is tremendously talented [TS]

01:11:33   guy and probably like just a regular [TS]

01:11:36   indie rock guy but because he was in rem [TS]

01:11:41   and because they had this kind of weird [TS]

01:11:43   groupthink policy where you're not [TS]

01:11:45   allowed [TS]

01:11:46   you know no one ever says anything on [TS]

01:11:47   the record you know a or you watch those [TS]

01:11:51   videos of them when they're really young [TS]

01:11:53   and they already took themselves so [TS]

01:11:56   seriously when they're 18 years old [TS]

01:11:58   whatever Mike Mills just never had an [TS]

01:11:59   opportunity to have a good time just [TS]

01:12:03   like a child actor [TS]

01:12:04   yeah he has been his whole life being [TS]

01:12:06   shot actor to working on a really super [TS]

01:12:08   weird common yeah and now he thinks that [TS]

01:12:11   like this is a theory that was advanced [TS]

01:12:14   by close friend of mine who ever [TS]

01:12:15   happened to once have been in rem to [TS]

01:12:18   standardize a vampire [TS]

01:12:19   I'm not going to say oh but one of my [TS]

01:12:21   friends who used to be in rem said that [TS]

01:12:24   what Mike Mills should have done many [TS]

01:12:26   many years ago was released a Mike Mills [TS]

01:12:27   solo album if he just he writes songs if [TS]

01:12:31   he had just put out a record of his own [TS]

01:12:34   music then he would be free he would [TS]

01:12:37   have been free of this like I'm the bass [TS]

01:12:40   player get out of get out of system get [TS]

01:12:42   out of the system brand and also break [TS]

01:12:44   that weird a break that weird spell that [TS]

01:12:48   was over those guys like Peter Buck [TS]

01:12:50   ended up getting out and surprise [TS]

01:12:52   Arielle side projects and stuff to keep [TS]

01:12:54   them keep them lightly and when was [TS]

01:12:55   Peter Buck doing right now I guarantee [TS]

01:12:57   you wherever he is in the world right [TS]

01:12:58   now he's playing the guitar right now [TS]

01:13:00   are there is still a mandolin thing he [TS]

01:13:02   does all that stuff [TS]

01:13:03   yeah Mike Mills he's living in some [TS]

01:13:06   hotel you somewhere [TS]

01:13:07   he's probably put cocaine in his penis [TS]

01:13:10   he never got out new [TS]

01:13:23   Wow [TS]

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