Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hi John how are you hi Merlin I'm [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► fine except that my bluetooth keyboard [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► is dead for some reason probably out of [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► batteries [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► who and you know I was my iphone has [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► decided now that it has this new text [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► feature this I message that's different [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► from texting some somehow with Lou [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► instead of green right but if it can't [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► if it can't send its I message over [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► whatever proprietary airwaves it uses [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► then it just sits there like a dumb lump [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► like I have a have a plastic brick in my [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► hand so I was trying to communicate with [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► yeah but my keyboard was down and my [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► phone was I messaging in incompetently [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► so it's very frustrating for a memorable [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► man it's hard for verbal man not to have [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► anything to type one God you know and [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► that so i was i got on skype and I saw [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► down at the bottom is trying to like [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► figure out how I could send send you a [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► skype message and i saw a little smiley [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► face down at the bottom of the message [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► area and I clicked on it and it was all [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► those emoticons the little the little [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► smiley face with a halo and smiley face [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► with the eyeballs the googly eyes and [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► little smiley face with the devil horns [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► and I was like yeah send him some [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► smileys and he'll know that I'm he'll [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► know that I'm here so i clicked on all [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► these smileys and and without being able [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► to push return [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► uh I couldn't send it could even send a [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► smiley see if I can do that i send you [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► some smiley musical Ali and I see a [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► problem right right so I just thought [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► they were just all these smiley emoticon [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► things where we're piling up down in the [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► bottom but I couldn't send them it was [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► uh [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► I felt I felt like I felt like the the [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► protagonist of metallica's song I wasn't [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► gonna say it [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► I wasn't going to say it but but [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► darkness imprisoning me all I see [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► absolutely yeah I cannot have got skype [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► i cannot i cannot smile [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► oh my gosh John were just couple of [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► seconds and more I have so much to ask [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► yeah um well first of all gift of the [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► magi as i was just connecting with you [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► and I don't want to talk about computers [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► but I realized that my mouse is in the [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► same sad state is your keyboard its have [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► a very visit teen mouse it's actually [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► from Byzantium all byzantine mouse hole [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► the capital they are all so complicated [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► you have such as such great little [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► headdresses I don't know if it's [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► byzantine rococo baroque or just really [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► fucked up looking but yeah as in the [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► battery things blinking red yeah so we [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► almost like that Richard Pryor gene [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► wilder thing you know its Silver Streak [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► who know know the one where trade goes [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► out of control it crashes through a [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► train station [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► no there's one forget what the call is [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► called wackadoodle or I die job or [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► we're not home in jail at that guy [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► that's my favorite gene wilder movie [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► deals one of my special words I'm trying [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► I'm trying to not use it too much my [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► friend John another John nativity John [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► Gruber he likes your cockamamie anybody [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► keeps his powder dry it's one of those [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► words it's so special you have little [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► doubt when he needs it [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► another one I got from John's dingus i [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► love that you know you think is the last [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► episode so I can using this one even [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► though I are getting dong is a good is a [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► good substitute for dingus your you want [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► to call somebody ding-dong you when you [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► struggle sometimes to figure out exactly [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► how to frame someone sometimes you'll [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► struggle and pause for a minute and [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► you'll end up on dingdong dingdong yeah [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► although i've heard recently from from [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► close friends that I have my go to work [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► now is horseshit everything is worth [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► shit and you usually say it it's a lot [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► like the Mandarin language on go ping [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► pong here but there's a certain tonality [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► to the way you say our shit again [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► sometimes you can cause as you finally [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► mentally scan the hard disk is your [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► brain for the proper response and USA [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► horseshit [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► ok that's certain [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► it has a certain cello like quality for [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► shit because i believe hand my friend [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► let me play cello the other night i [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► should write this down we're pretty deep [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► in the stock already um I want to get [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► back to motor cars because i know that [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► something you think about I want to come [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► back to metallica um yeah I was at her [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► house pretty late and I've been drinking [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► and I know that's a great time to put a [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► cello and somebody that I said you're [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► everything she was so nice about it and [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► I I sit here now everyday didn't have a [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► clarinet brick [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► no I mean I would never ask to touch [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► somebody's clarinet it's like kissing [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► somebody's bird that's right that's [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► french kissing somebody's cockatiel who [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► gusting i know i'm sitting here now and [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► you know me you know I drink but I'm not [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► that guy you know i hope i'm not i'm not [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► i definitely don't black out and like [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► like the from wonderful Cosby in the [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► cosby himself remember i'm talking about [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► cocaine how it intensifies your [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► personality and this is what if you [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► would if you're an asshole you know now [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► with me on the kind of person that would [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► love to play a cello when by playing [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► cello I mean try not to break it while [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► I'm playing I guess the cockpit sacado [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► and I sit here every day and I know [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► chels are expensive and and you know so [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► I asked your fuckin you know a firetruck [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► most well-liked you're not guitar guy [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► right even though you do you'll never [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► get our guy at a party right now [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► sometimes I'll get roped into being [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► guitar gonna shower I've seen be shy at [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► parties [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► yeah well some people come up to me and [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► made and they start you know they start [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► leaving a little trail of breadcrumbs [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► and I'm like oh yeah i'll talk to you [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► about that and then pretty soon [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► they've led me down some primrose path [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► and i'm standing in front of a house [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► made of gingerbread who and I'm talking [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► about guitars eating right out of party [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► i'll see how am I talking about guitars [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► I'm thinking I we're at a party once i [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► think was at the end of a teacher and [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► you're very you're very tired and I [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► think he took a nap once at a party that [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► we went together because you're not a [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► party guy [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► yeah I'll take a nap apartment fuck yeah [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► without san mateo where they make a lot [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► of dolls we're at a party and I think [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► you excuse yourself and went and took a [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► nap in someone's room maybe on some cuts [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► if ya [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► yeah i'm still five years old so it [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► doesn't the attack something plaque that [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► says John Roderick slept on a coat here [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► what about you know I I used to be and [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► obviously as we've seen from the [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► impromptu skype jams i still can be [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► guitar guy i truly try not to be but [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► like nobody nobody likes get playing [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► guitar in a party guy [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► oh you're talking about play guitar and [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► a party God know it's one thing it's one [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► thing to talk about entries it's another [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► thing to like go [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► Oh in my case like even today I'm I'm [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► pretty gregarious i like talking to [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► people for a while but like it when they [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► start talking about the intricacies and [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► this is totally have you know what's the [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► word we were just don't do what you say [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► hypocritical order cripple you want to [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► refer to my friend show hypercritical is [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► totally hypocritical of me but I will [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► sit there and suddenly people you know [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► there's like pro drinkers and amateur [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► drinkers any Y and the amateur drinkers [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► will not sure you know what is correct [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► and so they start did the amateur [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► drinkers you know and these are people [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► who don't get out much they know [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► sure they get wasted on st. Patrick's is [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► enormously haha go to my oh and there's [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► the shittiest drunk drivers in the world [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► that's the problem and so this did not [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► happen at this party because it was [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► great it's a bunch of people you know [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► you have people you know it's a nice [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► group we're sitting there and you know [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► watching watching videos from the who [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► and stuff on TV and you're like let me [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► let me get that cello in my hand luke [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► and john let me check out some jello to [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► holy shit i can't believe how much I was [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► that guy that night i was also let's [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► watch a quick one on the stones rock n [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► roll circus guy that night [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► oh that's great i've been going out with [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► you right well a quick one is you know [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► that's the that's the key to watching [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► the rock and roll circus right that's [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► how you understand why no one ever saw [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► the rock and roll circus before just a [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► few years ago can't talk about the [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► rolling stones were so embarrassed that [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► the who kicked their ass all around the [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► block that they're like yeah we should [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► put the kibosh mahal kick their ass [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► I mean it's embarrassing when you know [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► that still god fucking dammit you know [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► the story behind that is what's his head [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► was it without accessories and Lindsay [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► hog or whatever the game it was one of [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► the right side answered didn't 333 [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► lindseyindia guy who directed let it be [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► anyway he um [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► and now i get all these guys confuse you [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► also got it was not Peter Schaffer is a [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► reckless Peter dear Alan is the guy that [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► was married to Liza Minnelli and who's [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► the guy who stole the rolling stones as [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► money they don't have more peterburg [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► Alex Alex Goldsmith was his name doesn't [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► matter [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► full golden Goldwater have a little bit [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► of my kids cold so i'm trying not to [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► cough on [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► yeah so anyway [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► well oh my god I can't believe how deep [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► in the stack we are here's the thing you [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► know I have a cello I have a channel [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► that I want to come back to the cello I [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► ok well here's the thing you want to do [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► and i'll send you whatever tomorrow [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► yeah fax it to me well as so this is a [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► thing was recorded in like something [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► like 1968 wire around circus it was [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► before so quick one was like 66 67 so [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► much that and they the the stones had [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► this TV show you know what no one cares [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► all I'm saying is that you don't look it [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► up well but it's worth you know watching [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► because apparently stones put this thing [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► together this extravaganza for TV I [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► guess probably in England and do you [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► know the story about the taping like how [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► was the taping what really poorly and it [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► ran really really late [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► you can see that in the footage you can [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► see everyone there is just like uh so [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► the universe [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► this isn't as fun as we thought it was [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► gonna be can you say like having a [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► wonderful is ping-pong having to work in [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► clown makeup is probably super fun for [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► about 30 seconds but let's talk to the [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► guys in jackass fucking 5a know the guy [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► with the chainsaw the Juggalos the [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► Juggalos yeah well I mean I I feel like [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► like the Rolling Stones with the [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► jugglers the sixties are you know what I [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► would love to talk about the rolling [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► stones and this is where I differ from a [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► lot of people that I'm not the easiest [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► Rolling Stones fan that's amazing to [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► hear cannot be true who apparently if I [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► got this right i think it was 5am when [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► who went on [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► oh my god and they had sexualizes that [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► performance in a whole different way [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► well it i don't even know it's like [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► there's this few videos that I make a [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► point of watching at least once a month [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► and and you know I really like music if [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► there's any even if i don't need to have [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► my understanding of the importance of [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► rock'n'roll of rock'n'roll renewed on a [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► regular basis watching that though no no [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► we'll just makes us stronger [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► it's like it's like job it's like it but [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► here's the thing about the who I mean [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► that was that whole experience was [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► before cocaine was invented [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► it's an inflection point for the band [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► because it's a beginning he's got the [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► test the best thing is before his next [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► it's after the mod thing and it's right [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► at the point when they became like the [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► really really really good band and the [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► performance is shattering it's sister [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► Mary it's after the mod thing but i [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► seriously doubt that it is after the [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► amphetamine thing focus Pete looks [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► pretty sweaty they are very and feta [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► mean and that is a you can't socks [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► though he's just he's just he's got [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► stupid hair casino here's the things [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► so-and-so still has that stupid-ass [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► haircut with bangs right well stupid ass [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► on anyone but Entwistle on it well this [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► is the name is a snappy dresser [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► he looks like an aircraft carrier he is [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► even he looks like an aircraft carrier [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► in a bowl haircut something could land [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► on him a little miss Abby it is amazing [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► you could land a jet aircraft on him and [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► he would just be like to do but i don't [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► have a huge problem [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► bass players in general protecting a [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► different fucking movie when you watch [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► what he's doing you watch his finger his [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► right hand [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► I don't know what the fuck that guys [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► doing invented by bass playing okay [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► even more so than like the huh you look [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► at modern rock n roll bass playing you [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► mean yeah modern rock and roll base [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► plate right there was talk about their [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► invented the base plate but she plays [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► banjo on smile i just learned that two [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► days ago [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► yeah she's all over they get that yet [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► smile sessions i do have it that the new [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► you know we played sloop John B just the [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► other day appear very good roots huh [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► that's pretty good song ass and I I've [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► been covering the rolling stones on the [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► ukulele so just bring it all back [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► already take up and eat up all of his [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► core give a sense of that hmmm in the [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► line [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► yeah then he took any ate up all of my [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► corn you know a lot of mix lyrics to not [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► bear close inspection no no no no first [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► of all were talking about were talking [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► about the Beach Boys and second it's a [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► folk song so jumpy has been around [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► forever always future talking about it [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► was like the first mate he got drunk [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► something in the captain's trunk and [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► then he took me up on my corn i'm pretty [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► sure got drunk and did something the [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► captain Strunk you're starting to get [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► with the songs about ok and and [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► so-and-so that performance is something [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► so just to go back a little bit you know [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► you know it starts you start you leave [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► the restaurant you go to a bar you leave [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► the bar and this woman my friend jesse [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► was nice enough to have us into her home [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► and back to this and so here's the thing [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► i'm just realizing this is a moment of [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► Revelation I think what you call it in [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► group called a moment of clarity is that [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► eminem song that's not something I ever [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► ever said but yes get mental clarity [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► that's the face that's what they say and [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► asked is it true that let you pee a nest [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► I don't even after they have a bit only [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► go to convention centers that have a [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► bathroom [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► I've never done that excuse me I have a [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► little bit of a frog in my throat I've [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► never done ask but I think my dad in the [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► seventies we did it we're back when it [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► was really the thing like all the you [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► would go there it's like a hip couples [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► retreat or so you had to do it and it's [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► Werner Herzog or something that's right [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► that the guy was the Admiral donitz yeah [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► and and my dad went and you know I think [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► that's where my dad and his little his [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► little clique of commie retinue but yeah [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► like Jewish psychologists in Alaska over [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► his head before fleece dad turtlenecks [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► they had allotted this gang war a lot of [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► turtlenecks and they actually practiced [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► you know some of the principles of a [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► stride to practice on me but as you know [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► i'm i am impervious and completely [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► bulletproof when people try to practice [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► principles on me i have i have my my [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► principal shield goes if I was gonna [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► have your player care you have a very [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► very complicated multi-page player [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► character sheet but i'm guessing [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► somewhere under your 7 charisma [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► somewhere like it [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► ok i kid i would say you have probably a [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► 17 Constitution you have you probably [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► have like a 16 or 18 charisma [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► that's nice view dexterity is very low [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► that I've seen that you have trouble [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► playing the guitar it's true i'm saying [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► somewhere on their would have to have a [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► new field you have to contact gary gygax [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► I think past but there would be a field [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► on there called in previous test em in [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► and principles in general so here's what [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► I'm saying John when you find your [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► business to ask in my bag of holding [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► holding food or surgical askew [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► we've talked about this but there's no [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► way there's no way to out a lot of nerdy [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► men more than making a slightly louder [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► dnd reference at a party and seeing it [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► turns around [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► yeah yep it's quite easy to do and [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► that's why that's where we'll Wheaton's [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► wil wheaton walks around with that [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► t-shirt on with the 20-sided die on it [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► and I think people come people like [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► attacking on buses and that's gotta be a [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► pussy magnet 20-sided die down [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► tell me about it USA vs inhalers and [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► play D&D but the thing is John only true [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► who know what you know here's the thing [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► i played the shit out of the Indians [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► what I did [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► yeah here's the thing about DMV I'm a [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► lot of the people that I talk to that [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► you know the play D&D what got them out [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► of playing D&D was not that they are was [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► not that they grew out of a manner that [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► it was that they felt that they felt [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► like it was a child's game but more at [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► least in my case more that I let my own [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► imagination in terms of going on [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► adventures with elves and finding [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► treasure my own imagination was so much [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► more vivid than any dungeon master in my [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► town could conjure you become a ninja [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► master on some level I became my own [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► dungeon master who when you become your [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► own dungeon master you are no longer [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► playing dnd you don't have to hide the [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► throws my screen anymore right [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► you're just out eventually what it ended [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► up was that I was out in the forest [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► playing swords and sorcery with [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► imaginary friends imaginary dragons with [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► the people there there were not going [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► solo [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► selsella mission i made a sword out of [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► the out of this [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► the stick of wood that was holding up a [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► political sign that said like collect [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► Tom think mayor of Anchorage or whatever [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► and i took the sign and I made a sort [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► out of it and then I was off i didn't [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► need any didn't you don't need no [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► stinkin books I didn't know player [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► player characters I knew what my [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► Constitution was I think people are [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► attracted to dnd i did some of that too [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► and by the way to sounds to me like [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► you're exactly the kind of person all [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► those hysterical articles were about the [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► kind people like there's no way that [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► this is the sewers teenagers in our [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► inner sewers looking at madis yeah [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► if advantage it had decent sewers I [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► would have been down in there [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► alright i would have been fighting a pop [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► goblins spend a lot of my life trying to [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► find ways into other things i would love [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► to find a way into a sewer you kidding [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► here's the thing i think a lot of people [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► get into D&D in retrospect for two [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► reasons [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► there's a lot of reading and it's an [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► easy relatively easy way to be around [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► other people at a time you know and [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► people who you can see is easier it feel [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► cooler than cool as right and there's a [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► lot of reading i was attracted because [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► there's a lot of reading and they were [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► there were books and it was an easy way [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► to be around other people without having [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► to develop like all the social skills [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► necessary [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► well like when you're actually like when [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► you're little and you're in a church [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► group it's easy enough [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► I mean your school like your kind of [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► thrust into the situation with other [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► people and there's a tacit understanding [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► why you're all there and you don't need [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► to explain college right you can all [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► live in the same dorm right here we are [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► are you gonna borrow that pan right [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► that's like pretty easy and when you get [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► older I think that guitar no here's the [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► thing I I it wasn't even that I thought [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► it was so much I thought it was dorky [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► anymore [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► it'sit's that I think at some point in [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► every D&D guy's life it becomes less [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► about dice and bugbears and more about [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► big breasted ladies and corsets [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► hmm you know I think that our campaigns [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► Lynch's yes bitches we make the [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► transition to wenches you're into a [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► different kind of role playing well when [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► you're you start planning campaigns that [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► have involved like a lot more going to a [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► tavern because the club and there may be [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► like a hot chick in the cave but by and [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► large it's going to be some saucy saucy [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► girl behind the counter and I think that [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► that going hot chick grave always has [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► tentacles forearms is the problem at [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► first [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► well not at first no that she lures you [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► in its not to the game to call it the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► call was called to the book wasn't also [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► a game there are so many cthulhu games [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► now I are just steps i just saw game [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► called through flux in the future that's [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► it's it's in the future yeah whoo [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► but for me my problem i guess is that I [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► have spent my whole life trying to find [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► ways to get out of being around other [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► people so maybe that's why I bet you [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► just let your guy died [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► no just like I'm I don't want to be here [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► in the second nap on somebody's members [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► only jacket with you some kids [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► yeah can I could take a nap i'm gonna go [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► play in your yard can I go act this out [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► in your yard signs and sitting there [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► it's two in the morning and i'm making [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► people watch videos on the appletv and [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► then at some point I said the jesse is [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► invited to the party [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► oh my god i don't know I I can't even [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► believe I did this I asked her if I [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► could like fiddle with her cello right [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► oh and she was so nice that you do the [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► thing that you do at parties where you [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► eat do you explain to everyone in a kind [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► of loud voice why that they might be [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► giants or that one of the great american [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► rock bands not at this party [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► let's take another I've seen you do that [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► could've been done that would have been [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► the move and would've been around if I [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► hadn't left it would have been around [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► three-thirty i will talk about the move [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► that will eventually talk about the move [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► but she was nice and she let me she said [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► no fucking way and not in her words [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► she's very polite but you fucking want [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► to send a fucking where you touching my [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► elbow [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► you know that's 1,800 bucks for about [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► four a good bow environmental horsehair [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► the bow that I'm gonna send you as an [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► 1,800 bucks you can really send me a [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► cello you want to tell oh I'd be so into [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► that if they yeah [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► whoa whoa who is over is over my cello [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► area you're straight you're struggling [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► with deciding whether your cello was [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► actually within arm's reach of your desk [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► hey I'm open to anything that this is a [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► this is my terrible internation because [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► I don't play friendless instrument [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► sounds like it sounds like a hill giant [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► deciding whether has food poisoning [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► maybe a golem so she gave it to me and I [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► was like it is really out flat public [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► saw sorry and and she actually showed me [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► how to hold possible uncle ron paul and [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► i actually I played it right like almost [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► exactly once and then I put it down [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► because I realized I was being that guy [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► I actually at a cute girls house I i [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► asked her to teach me talk at two in the [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► morning on her very special cello [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► uh-huh has never been more of an act III [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► don't know who it is you put your beard [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► or her asshole who the entry entry [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► anyway that's enough of that i just DNT [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► I you know the funny thing is that with [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► the dnd than I once i was offered I [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► couldn't get back into it you know but i [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► think the girl thing kind of has an [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► effect and I don't want to sound unkind [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► but I think when you talk about the [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► comic-con and stuff i think that that [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► saucy wench thing like if you if you [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► missed your job [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► what's called you know the guy ericsson [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► is an ericsson period you know which is [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► that the dnd period and if you don't [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► make it out of there is a struggle at [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► every level according ericsson right [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► here's the here's the thing that I never [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► understood who is is the presence and [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► this is this has been hammered home to [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► me over the last year to as I have [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► become more and more engaged with nerd [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► culture and more sort of drawn into the [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► nerd nexus is the undeniable presence of [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► nerd studs and nerd like hot girls [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► oh yes yes yes yes even in high school I [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► remember I was taking this some kind of [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► physics class and the kid that shared my [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► my lab partner that's what I'm trying to [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► find my lab partner was this guy who was [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► the entire semester that we have this [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► class together he was working on forging [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► the blade of a broadsword that he was [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► building for himself [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► and every day we would sit and he would [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► he would explain like all the different [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► to all the times he was gonna fold the [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► steel over and how it was you know he [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► was he was going to make this broad [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► sword but it was going to incorporate [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► some Japanese sword technology into it [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► and it never occurred to him and now i [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► guess it never occurred to me to say [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► wyd like why do you need a broadsword [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► you're 16 or whatever you but he was he [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► was fit this guy was he he was in shape [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► and he was he was smart and he was is [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► reasonably funny but he was a nerd all [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► the way you know what I mean like deep [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► inside this he was he was going to end [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► up being the guy that was walking around [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► the town where he lived with this sword [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► that he built himself like strapped into [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► a scabbard on his back and that was just [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► going to be his identity you know that [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► was his plan [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► well i have seen that guy is unusually [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► wearing a duster i have seen I've seen [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► that guy and very very wide hat not that [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► not that exact guy but about his is a [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► his mate I've seen him in several towns [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► either a duster and a either Duster or [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► there was a guy here in Seattle who had [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► a conan sword and rode a pretty hopped [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► up mountain bike and just rode around [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► town all I mean for years [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► conan conan the barbarian coming like a [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► long like a like a broadsword like a [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► really long like a really long sword [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► strapped to his back and he would ride [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► his bike around he had be that big [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► muscles and that was his that was his [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► identity that was his way of integrating [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► himself into the urban landscape he was [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► you know he woke up one day and he was [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► like I'm the broadsword bicycle guy [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► that's me I'm him and everyone will know [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► me my name will ring out from these [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► skyscrapers but so so anywhere you go to [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► these events and you see these girls [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► where you're like this is a this is a [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► cute girl this is not this is not just a [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► cute girl within the nerd world she's [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► legitimately cute girl and she is a nerd [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► so so those experiences have thrown have [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► cast doubt on what I had always I would [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► have agreed with you for years that you [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► know that there came a time when you had [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► to choose between fantasy and and [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► fantasy that was a little bit sexier and [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► the sexy fantasy leads you into rock and [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► roll and rock and roll leads you away [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► from swords and sorcery and into actual [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► sex whether this is good but the nerd [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► the nerd people were having this [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► parallel existence where they were [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► actually having sex with each other and [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► some of them just stayed over there [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► hmm this is a this is a big topic but so [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► but the the cute nerd girls like are [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► they like with the guys with the the [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► nerds that are there are they they're [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► mostly kind of fun like a fact-finding [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► mission [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► well interesting that you might find [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► interesting that you ask that because [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► generally I think the super cute nerd [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► girls in my experience at least are [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► getting off on being fetish items i [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► never really see them pair up with [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► others also generally do the nice thing [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► about that I don't see anything wrong [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► with that i mean it's fun but that is [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► nice because you can visit with that it [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► isn't like living in LA and like having [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► to be a fetish item as part of your [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► existence you get to go in and it [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► literally is a costume [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► I think I don't think very many people i [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► don't see many I i cannot i cannot [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► imagine like a normal or as we're [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► calling them now Snorks I cannot imagine [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► a snort girl snort girl going to [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► comic-con and dressing like a nerd [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► puppet as it isn't as a tourist act i [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► think to even be aware of comic-con you [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► have to already be in the nerd family [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► until dressing like a Twi'lek at home to [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► sit around watching reality shows all [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► blue [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► I don't know mm I don't know it is a [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► fully developing why don't i'm not [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► trying to sound cynical about this at [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► all i'm saying is very empowering you [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► know I think for some ladies that comes [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► out is sexy nurse at Halloween or [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► whatever and it's an opportunity to do [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► that second in a safe environment right [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► you will use you and be sexy nurse and [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► and go to like some some bar you know by [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► the college I don't think you can dress [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► like sexy Twilight and go to work at [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► amazon.com but i think that it becomes [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► more [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► Nick cosplay sexy nurse at a halloween [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► party is one thing but cosplay is [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► definitely more of a lifestyle lifestyle [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► like that's become much that's become [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► much more acceptable i think to be like [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► a character like you're 10 starts on a [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► bike guy like I don't know I got a lot [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► of questions about that that was years [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► ago that was 20 years ago sort of my god [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► maybe who he wasn't i actually found his [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► lair one time I was walking through of a [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► disused part of town a dusty disused [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► block of of town and there's an old [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► building there and you know how I feel [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► about old buildings and I was [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► investigating it with my eyes and I see [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► one of the ground floor storefronts that [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► would have a hundred years ago in the [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► place where you would get gum balls and [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► milk of magnesia was now closed and and [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► but there were all these like news [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► clippings taped in the window of this of [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► this former storefront and so I walk [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► over and start reading the news [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► clippings and I realized that it is [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► sword on a bike guys house it's his lips [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► where he lives he lives in this old [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► store and he used to be a gunner on a [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► unlike add a frigate he was an eight and [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► navy guy and he peeped he'd been a [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► gunner on one of those a hyper-fast [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► Gatling guns that you see on on little [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► frigates and and destroyers where it's [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► the same kind of gun that they put in [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► the a-10 warthog what's that what's the [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► role of about like that as a defensive [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► roller it's a kind of sneak in kind of [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► without being seen roll call their [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► fast-moving little frigates the [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► technical protect you protect a big ship [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► before do that or going to get there you [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► can you can you can fire on shore you [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► know you get up get up close to shore [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► and support mission role and that they [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► all like Bella they'll have a cruise [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► missiles now so they're they're all 400 [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► miles away and just in chicken shits and [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► cruise missiles into your front door [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► because that you could you know what the [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► new Navy is chicken shit for their [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► cruise missiles and their long-distance [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► if you can't see the guy that you're [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► shooting I don't think you have a right [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► to shoot him but that's just my that's [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► just my philosophy but anyway this guy [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► he had put up his greatest hits up in [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► the window of the shop including a [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► couple of news articles about him [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► getting arrested or getting stopped by [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► the police and detained because when he [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► first arrived on the scene because [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► they're like you can't just ride around [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► with this broad sword and he said it's [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► my constitutional right and it made some [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► little news article and so here was here [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► I saw it I saw where he lived and and [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► got a little bit of his backstory have [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► no idea what ever happened with a guy [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► he's in a storefront and there's [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► newspaper articles in the window about [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► himself right but we're facing the print [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► facing inward or outward facing outward [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► it was it was in that visit the thing it [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► wasn't on a busy street who it was it [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► was a street that for people walk down a [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► day but this was his little like this is [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► me it's almost like he wanted to be [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► found out [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► well it's not i don't think he thought [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► of it as his bat cave in the sense that [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► it was hidden behind underneath his name [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► I'm just saying if i were a guy on a [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► boot shows in as a bike rider to carry a [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► sword around with me I don't want to get [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► up too far ahead of myself but that [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► seems to me as somebody with a certain [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► defensive posture he's not attacking [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► parking meters or codes or something [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► he's just got a sword because you never [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► know right she should be right yes to me [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► you know i don't know a lot about you [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► know military material but it seems to [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► me that that compromises his position [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► heavily if he's got clips about himself [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► in the window [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► well i think that what what you are what [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► your what you are the the template that [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► we have now to talk about crazy people [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► like that is all very get there there's [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► so many conspiracies in the air now that [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► we think every crazy person must be [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► convinced that the government is trying [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► to find him and that that that they're [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► watching him from outer space and black [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► helicopters and Illuminati and blah blah [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► blah but i think twenty years ago crazy [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► people [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► could be heavily armed they could be [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► very militarized and yet still not have [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► taken a total anti-government stance who [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► still be wanting attention rather than [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► trying to pretend that they don't want [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► attention as a way of getting attention [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► you know just to be like i'm not i'm not [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► wearing this sword because i think that [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► this that the government is out to get [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► me i'm wearing this sword because I'm [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► here to protect damsels from dragons who [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► you know he was a he was an older kind [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► of crazy before crazy became so [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► institutionalized food or so more [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► orthodox raso franchised right well and [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► also you know he probably didn't have [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► the resources that we have today to find [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► out more about about craziness and what [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► might fit into i think a lot of a lot of [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► the old-time Orthodox crazies or were [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► really searchers they were there were [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► people I was looking looking for what [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► the answer was and as the cycling got [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► more rapid they sometimes you know ended [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► up in places where you can put clippings [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► on the window we have one of these guys [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► in Tallahassee I think everybody's got [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► colorful people write these are you know [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► guy who runs into Superman outfit you [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► know you gotta you know the whole [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► webpage about that Peter Pan guy few [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► years ago the guy who just like Peter [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► Pan and acted like he was a kid that was [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► a kind of popular thing is going to [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► Tallahassee he went by King love and he [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► wore what started as a fairly [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► resplendent like fairytale idea of like [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► a kind of ermine looking outfit with a [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► big crown very large garrulous [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► african-american man who when you talked [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► about you tell you about his message of [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► love because he was king love it turned [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► out he was this guy who had been a [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► professor at Florida State and you know [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► you can fill in some of the tail details [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► in between you know scholarship in her [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► month but he here's the thing and this [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► is that I don't make this you know sad [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► but you know a lot of times that starts [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► out as kind of a fun thing for us and [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► then it escalates and it like that guy [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► down and down by the salt and see that [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► that painted painted that giant jesus [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► mountain out in the desert who don't [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► know about that he showed up he shown up [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► by the Salton Sea you know 50 years ago [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► or something like that and he and he [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► looked at this hill [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► it's not a mountain it's a hill [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► and he said this hill is my calling [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► these he started getting old buckets of [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► paint and just painting this hill and he [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► painted it's a pretty big hill he [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► painted the whole thing and covered it [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► with message you know with god is love [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► messages visible for miles around [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► um it's it's it's nice to look at now [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► you drive by and you go there's that who [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► but i can't i can't think that it [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► I you know and frankly the world the [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► ways of the world are mysterious perhaps [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► it has brought some people peace who [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► perhaps had brought some lonely [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► travelers closer to God but i think [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► mostly it was a waste of time in pain [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► look at rock-and-rolling that's that [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► didn't end well [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► right the guy started out with the [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► rainbow wig and he wanted you know you [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► could always see him on TV this is the [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► John 313 guy whatever 316 John's sorry [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► I'm sorry [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► 16 um yeah anyway that's a well-known [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► story but that didn't create anything to [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► him [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► well you can read about it but basically [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► he started out with he was going to [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► rainbow wig I think he had some problems [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► and then he he started all those two [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► things hard to I mean one doesn't [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► necessarily fall from the other you can [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► wear rainbow working on a problem [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► well we all have our past some of us [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► choose our mind some of us choose [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► broadswords and some of us choose [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► rainbow wigs [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► there are many paths to John 313 that's [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► right by that you know and he really got [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► into it and he started devoting a lot of [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► his effort to getting into the spots [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► like pine field goals or whatever like [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► Orion you would end up on camera and it [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► became a thing you know when we're going [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► to become a thing where the camera guys [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► were intentionally trying not to join it [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► could be i think it finally became a [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► thing where it's like you know it would [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► be like having paris hilton at your [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► party or something right [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► oh he was a star but then it got into [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► the john three sixteen thing anyway I [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► think it ended up with some kind of a [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► standoff involving guns it didn't it [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► didn't end great i'm just saying that [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► escalation it goes up and up and up [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► now how do you how do you separate that [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► from somebody like Howard Finster like [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► somebody who's like a your you know for [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► that matter what I mean William [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► Burroughs like some people are just sort [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► of curiosity [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► well I think this is the thing about [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► comic-con or or or nerd culture as it [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► has expanded and become a genuine like [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► third way or a genuine of [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► a genuine now accepted and and [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► franchised piece of the cultural pie is [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► that so much of that outsider art is now [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► being embraced by what was formerly [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► outsider culture and it is becoming all [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► very inside daniel johnston daniel [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► johnston right or I mean half of indie [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► rock America there's a lot of indie rock [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► that friday roky erickson I mean there's [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► a lot of these characters that you know [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► with a million and there's on it for me [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► there's always been a big question like [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► it's pretty easy to pretend that you're [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► coupe it's it and then there are being [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► on there are plenty of guys like howard [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► finster who were you know there was no [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► pretending you know he was legitimately [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► a kook but you go to go to you go to [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► nerd events and you can see there there [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► are all kinds of people where you almost [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► feel like they were born a kook [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► there's no there's no question about it [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► but as it becomes more and more of a [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► thing becomes more and more of a culture [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► and a viable way you see you see people [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► who maybe weren't born a kook but have [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► met are now choosing to choosing to [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► effect a kind of cookie pneus then maybe [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► isn't even their birthday talking [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► themselves into it [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► yeah like all this is cool i mean this [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► thing's fun and and and pretty soon and [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► I think even more like the guy but the [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► sword guy on the bike today instead of [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► running down the street and have [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► everybody got well there's that guy he'd [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► be waiting at a stoplight and some kid [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► in a area in a wizard tap would run up [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► do you want to play with the coast of me [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► or whatever and he would get he would [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► get absorbed it people would would maybe [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► falsely identify him as a member of [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► their tribe he might get a record [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► contract with jack city right or he [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► might end up like I'm not I'm no longer [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► the sword guy on the bike i am now this [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► character that is being kind of semi [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► worshipped by a group of nerds who don't [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► understand that I'm legitimately [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► nuts CLA come of the end they turned him [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► into a finished item you saw you I don't [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► you know like to keep our show timeless [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► you know what these two programs that [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► people can listen two years from now and [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► still get your wisdom from so I you can [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► tell me if you don't talk about this but [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► you've actually been a comic-con and I [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► kind of want to hear about that but i'm [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► not sure if only hear about that but I [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► just point out that as recently as i [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► believe last week you were on a cruise [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► ship for people who like Jonathan [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► Coulton right well not just people who [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► like Jonathan Coulton all about is the [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► dominating feet but the galaxy elevator [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► pitch on the cruise jack-up jungkook [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► screws what's called Jatakas crazy Joe [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► Cruz crazy which is named after one of [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► jonathan coulton songs Tom Cruise crazy [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► right which is about a kind of crazy [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► that only Tom Cruise if you had Tom [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► Cruise's travels you'd be time to go [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► straight to do you have another lyrics [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► to songs of course i do I i'm a fan of [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► jonathan coulton you you know what I'm [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► gonna write this down I think you've [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► undergone a transformation almost circle [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► back to that but but i don't see 2003 [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► John knowing all these words that you [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► like to make my job spec then well you [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► know like dead milkmen we know you [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► stipulate you like to look man I do you [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► don't see a senior / i remember you and [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► I have very very uh I remember you [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► giving me that they might be giants [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► lecture before i had toured with they [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► might be giants before I met them in New [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► them and became friends of friends with [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► them early early on in New York my [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► friendship we had a conversation where I [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► think I started out saying yeah I mean I [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► loved the Giants back in the eighties [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► but I mean you know it's kind of it's [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► kind of in the novelty sharp music [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► family black ghetto a catalyst jonathan [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► coulton it's a wagging tail and you [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► jumped up on a coffee table and said my [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► solo [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► you have no idea what you're talking [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► about listen to these words and you and [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► you broke down I probably played you [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► they'll need a crane which sounds like a [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► very peppy song about construction [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► equipment you broke down a few different [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► songs [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► yeah said do you see what's happening [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► here do you see what's happening here [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► who and and you know because i'm a [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► difficult person i think i may be made [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► you work a little bit [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► berger and i think i may be said no [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► thank you had not sure that you so many [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► ways you know me but but I did see [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► immediately what you meant and uh and it [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► then of course going on tour with them i [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► realized that you know their songs [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► couched in the language couched in pain [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► in humorous or sort of novel language uh [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► they might be giants songs are about the [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► human condition and like Jonathan [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► Coulton and that is precisely true [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► jonathan coulton that his songs about [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► monkeys and zombies and robots are [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► really about love and sadness and loss [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► and all the things that make us human [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► and the fact that they are you know the [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► fact that the topics are giggly who is [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► what draws the Nerds i think but what [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► keeps the nerds and what makes him a [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► cultural force and what makes the the [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► Giants of cultural forces that you can [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► listen to this stuff [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► dig in a little bit deeper and realize [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► oh my god this is that the pay those [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► that's in this music is is the fact that [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► the music is is fun to listen to doesn't [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► make it any less meaningful who [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► so you you actually gave me that you [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► gave me that speech about they might be [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► giants before I never met them and it [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► acted it it it truly help me because [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► going on tour with them i was kinda [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► primed to listen to them in a different [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► way and then of course I became friends [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► with them and you know I think they're [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► they're some of the most deeply human [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► people i know helps that they put on a [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► hell of a reaction 2 and 0 [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► it helps that Jonathan Coulton is a is a [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► songwriter like of the of the highest [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► order [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► you know he understands music and how [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► songs are put together so anyway I have [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► been drawn into this nerd culture [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► through becoming an appreciator of some [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► of the highest practitioners of the art [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► if you know what I mean who you know [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► like i am not i have not i'm not such a [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► member of the nerd culture that anybody [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► that stands up [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► with a banjo and wrote a song about a [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► robot is somebody that I'm gonna be like [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► I love songs about robots because [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► actually I do not love songs about robot [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► well there's a thread on this trip they [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► might be giants by think one thing that [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► all Jonathan songs is a sense of being [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► an outsider and not being precisely sure [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► what to do about it and and feeling a [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► little bit misunderstood that's what I [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► like about that like the mad scientist [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► zombie stuff is is the the person [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► writing the song has the awareness that [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► that person is an outsider and knows why [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► but i think it back to the DMV you may [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► feel like an outsider a lot of times in [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► your life and think all of the tricks [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► that I have for fixing this are not [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► working and it's making it worse [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► and this is a this has been a recurring [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► theme for me in in trying to integrate [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► or interact with these people because [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► for many many many years for most of my [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► life I considered myself a nerd and it [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► was because as a young person you talk [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► about six seven eight years old I was [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► precocious and articulate and I like to [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► talk to adults and I didn't like comic [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► books and I didn't like sports and so my [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► peers in school [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► absolutely called me a nerd treated me [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► like a nerd talk to me as a nerd [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► because because of of the simple fact [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► that all kids like comic books and all [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► kids like sports and I didn't like [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► either thing and prefer to sit around [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► you know that it was a party and there [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► were some adults and the kids were off [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► playing I'd go sit with the adults and [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► try and listen to their conversation so [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► as the years went by in high school I [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► mean I i consider myself a nerd i'm sure [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► there are people who went to high school [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► with me that thought I want you know was [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► one of the cool kids but I didn't and [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► and you start to get that [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► self-identification as a nerd when maybe [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► you're not even realizing that you're [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► kind of not want anymore [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► yes a fight absolutely the same i still [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► thought I was one and identified as one [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► and that that self-identification [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► carried on into adulthood well now i'm [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► in a posture where am i meeting all [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► these nerds who like comic books and [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► sports [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► and that is there like we're nerds we [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► like comic books and i still have a very [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► gud a deep reaction to that because as a [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► kid it was precisely not like it was not [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► liking comic books was what mainstream [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► kids did it was precisely not liking [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► comic books that made me feel like an [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► outsider all these people who are 40 [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► years old and still like comic books I [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► understand why they feel like they're [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► nerds but that's that's become so much [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► more acceptable unless you yeah it's [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► it's it's it's super mainstream to be [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► like to be a 40-year old guy who is [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► obsessed with sports or obsessed with [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► superhero look at that Adam Savage guy i [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► mean you know he's made a whole thing [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► out of out of that I think I mean I well [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► he also liked science and that is nerdy [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► and is Mary I i was fortunate to visit [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► his little area that he has a couple [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► times and you visited his area [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► yes I'm not trying to like that guy I [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► tagged along with some people I thought [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► you were talking about that you put your [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► mouse mat areas horse area now no I've [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► never touched Adam Savage horse area but [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► I mean you know he's guide I it see the [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► thing is i consider myself i always [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► think of myself as being like a star [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► wars nerd until I meet real star wars [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► nerds and it's andrea oh my gosh it's so [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► different so different I mean he's got I [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► thought lightsabers were the same and [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► boy was I wrong [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► now I know that and I know Count Dooku [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► has a really different lightsaber just [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► cause it's just my daughter and reading [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► things and watching movies but I think [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► he's got like we got mostly made like [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► machined all the different light sabers [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► he's got all these got lightsabers [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► yeah that even showing stuff i was just [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► on this nerd crews and at work during [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► one of the performances somebody made a [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► total recall reference and in the space [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► of 30 seconds three or four more Total [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► Recall references followed it like boom [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► boom [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► well I was still strong i was standing [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► there on the stage struggling term Total [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► Recall right that's that Arnold [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► Schwarzenegger movie where he was uh [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► it's like he forgot Who and I by the [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► time i'm even putting the plot of it [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► together Total Recall there there has [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► been a total recall mean visited [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► explored and we are on to something else [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► and I'm like that is a kind of [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► absorption and I end and in a kind of [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► love popular culture that i just i [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► simply do not have like i did not go [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► back and watch Total Recall again and [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► again as one of 500 movies that I've [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► watched multiple times so i can't really [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► i mean i can't play at that level I [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► think nerds I think there's I have a lot [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► of attention maybe everybody's got [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► retention about the things they care [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► about but I mean you know I used to know [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► a lot about hip points i didn't have to [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► look that up [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► there's a lot of things I didn't lie low [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► and we're going to say Hitler and I [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► we've been pretty good about avoiding [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► the Hitler for a while you know what you [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► know what I wanted her to know it's like [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► it's like a net down the little book [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► here there's a writer and I might be one [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► you know what I watched last night like [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► I got back from Florida I'm lying in my [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► bed you're in florida [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► well yeah that's where the crews went [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► from where did it's a embarked from Fort [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► Lauderdale [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► oh my god yeah the but if God was going [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► to give america and he would put it in [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► fort lauderdale never come out in cystic [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► American no no God frontier on the way [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► back and American the way they're both [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► of them complete slave barges hell [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► storms yeah they're just flinging [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► calling and calling us on a hell ship [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► yeah you know with the airlines are [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► doing now they're inventing new rules [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► every 30 seconds [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► oh it's just so capricious this sat in a [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► chair and they're like oh you can't sit [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► in that chair because you have a baby on [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► your lap and I was like how is this [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► chair different from anywhere any other [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► chair on the airplane and they said well [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► that chairs behind the next step and I [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► said I understand what you're saying now [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► I understand why a baby camp in an exit [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► row but there's no reason that I can't [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► is a flight risk behind an exit row and [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► then the next Stewart is that comes by [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► says so I had the baby off you know to [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► my to my baby mama [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► and the next door is down the line comes [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► along and says there are too many people [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► in that row they're not enough air [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► they're not of oxygen masks in that row [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► 442 lat babies and fight you know i'm [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► just like you just making shit up now [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► absolutely and services are so [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► disempowered that they don't that [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► they're just like the only thing I can [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► do is walk down the aisle and all I I [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► know you love your bureaucracy and you [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► are a huge event I think the thing is [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► when you get to a point where you don't [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► have real power anymore you know they [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► say that in life a real power is not the [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► ability to say no [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► icw say yes and I think when you become [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► a bureaucrat you mainly drive a lot of [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► your power from saying no real power in [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► improv is the ability to say yes yes and [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► yes and right sorry yes but haha [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► there's a famous yes there's a little [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► story where Joan Rivers was doing a [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► scene with mike nichols and you know [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► everybody learns the S&L clothes from [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► the beginning and supposedly mechnical [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► started I was like I can't believe this [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► is why we're getting divorced and [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► remember because we talk about we're not [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► even married she was considered not good [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► at that now here's there's two things [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► first of all yes yes that is ridiculous [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► there are some baby things there's a lot [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► of fairly sensible baby things on one of [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► those but I mean as far as those as a [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► ride like that when they said don't [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► drown your baby in a bucket I was like [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► oh helpful advice thank you [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► yeah but well the air harpies that [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► they're they're very unhappy people but [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► here's the other thing that drives me [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► crazy is the redundancy every statement [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► they make almost every statement made on [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► a plane has a built-in redundancy that [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► makes me flip [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► what's this i hear about your 2 p.s [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► reports you gotta come to or we gotta [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► wait till we come to a full and complete [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► stop [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► yeah oh that is redundant oh you never [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► noticed this and our plane is a hundred [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► percent full oh you never noticed this [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► its mounting oh my ears my ears were [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► attuned to it but now you are causing a [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► new thing for me to be pissed off about [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► so I don't going to stand up routine is [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► just the air travel is just it's so [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► unpleasant whatever here so unpleasant [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► going back to what last night got home [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► and I was like so how long's that's like [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► that's like an hour flight well since we [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► stopped to denver don't get me started [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► a long time i was on the plane all day I [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► get home and I'm sitting there i got my [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► ipad I'm like I'm gonna watch a movie [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► and I can't go on to netflix i'm just [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► i'm i'm i'm promoting product after [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► product here [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► ipad netflix Hitler Hitler I go on [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► netflix and based on the based on the [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► movies I've watched in the past netflix [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► suggest that maybe I would like to relax [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► by watching triumph of the will and i [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► think that's so funny that i watch it [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► pretty isn't it pretty long while lying [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► in bed watching trying for the world it [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► is very long lots of slow motion and [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► lots of martial music most of the most [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► of the film is not speeches most of the [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► films people marching around while the [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► music goes [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► dar-dar-dar-dar an ardor and like slow [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► slow fades between big flapping swastika [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► flags and all these blonde crew-cut guys [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► looking like with the total agile ation [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► at this slumpy little Austrian you know [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► but Paul up of Hitler and and I'm and [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► halfway through the night I'm like what [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► are you doing this is to our long movie [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► a trip to our long propaganda film about [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► Hitler what are you doing [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► couldn't you have watched happy gilmore [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► or something like just go turn your [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► brain off instead I'm like I'm looking [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► at every single and what I'm really [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► fascinated by their tailoring and all [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► the kind of opinions I don't know it's a [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► it's amazing film but not netflix i [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► don't think netflix really understands [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► me as well as it thinks it does we get [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► they suggest it was lots of thomas the [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► train things [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► yeah but yet netflix recommendations can [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► be very odd but in that case John I mean [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► I think you're that's your fighting [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► uphill battles instructor flew past is [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► prologue right up [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► I would worry he started getting lots of [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► like you know Iran vehicles or something [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► and that's next rider Clint Eastwood [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► movies haven't seen a lot of Hitler [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► movies is that whenever using the mean [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► sea no with bread [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► against freaking out good actor but i [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► don't think i've seen many other movies [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► they switch tora tora when I was a kid [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► that was my that was my canonical long [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► movie when I was making Midway's of [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► great movies a good one alright Midway's [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► great except down except there's a scene [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► it's just getting I remember I watching [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► the way in the theaters with my dad [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► because he's a world war two veteran we [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► always went to sea world war two movies [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► and Midway came out in 78 or something [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► like that we go to see the movie you [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► know it's about the Battle of Midway [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► which is the turning point of the war [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► food and there's a scene when the [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► Americans have the Americans have the [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► clouds have parted their up in their [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► airplanes and they see the Japanese [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► fleet and this is the big moment right [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► like they are surprised attacking these [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► three japanese aircraft carriers and [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► this is this is the this is really the [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► turning point in the war [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► japanese don't know they're there and [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► the Americans you know they they they [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► know their planes over and then go into [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► this steep dive in there they're headed [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► down cut to a shot of the deck of the [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► Japanese carrier where all these [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► Japanese American actors are milling [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► around on the deck pretending to be a [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► bunch of sailors just going about their [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► business unaware that the Americans are [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► about to attack them and I imagine as an [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► actor that that's a hard right that's a [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► hard thing for director tell you all [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► right you're on the deck of the aircraft [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► carrier and you're just doing your work [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► you're doing your aircraft carrier work [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► you have no idea that the Americans are [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► about to attack so just act natural [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► so all these guys milling around the [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► deck of the aircraft carrier and the [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► whole sudden one of the guy right in the [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► center of the screen [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► apropos of nothing [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► spins around points to the sky goes by [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► about my job on that as though i mean [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► really busy playing this playing that [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► famous the famous casual oriental [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► coolness about about about playing [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► attacks [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► yeah yeah two seconds before he was what [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► was really that ping-pong it was and and [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► and made it was it wasn't it wasn't just [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► the whole I mean this is from the era [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► when the portrayal of Japanese in war [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► movies was pretty touch-and-go but even [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► tora tora tora like that subtitles like [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► the Japanese people people spoke [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► Japanese yeah and no this was the in [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► this in this film uh there were there [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► were American actors playing the [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► japanese characters if i recall [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► correctly who but definitely this one [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► actor this one guy who two seconds [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► before was just on his way across the [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► aircraft carrier deck probably he was [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► the guy he was an orderly or he was [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► headed somewhere to to change the toilet [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► paper or something and then he spins [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► around points to the sky goes down the [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► Tama and at eight years old I was like [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► well that just took me out of the movie [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► i was really engrossed a second ago but [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► that one scene that guy's terrible [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► acting really and so now I can't watch [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► the movie with that what we're now [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► waiting for that guy like I love him now [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► this is joon 1942 is it really that [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► early was considered a turning point [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► where we still kind of getting our ass [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► kicked up through like 43 what we were [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► accepted [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► well it was a turning point because we [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► think 33 japanese characters in one in [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► one battle and that was the four [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► carriers one Cruiser 248 aircraft for [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► carrier [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► yeah wewe lost 1 in a loss for I'm sorry [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► and they forgive me 3057 Japanese killed [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► ya think is always right but the four [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► carriers in the war in the Pacific was a [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► was a carrier war movie know what's [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► along that's a long drive [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► it is it's a really long drive and and [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► and establishing air superiority [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► through all those archipelagos all [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► through the you know through Southeast [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► Asia like the carriers were going to be [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► the deciding factor and the Japanese did [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► not have the ability that we had again [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► wasn't them [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► we could but we kicked our war machine [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► into gear and we were turning out [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► aircraft carriers like like Lay's potato [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► chips and that was much more of a [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► capital investment on their part and it [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► was much harder for them to replace [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► those characters carriers so yeah [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► looking i don't think at the time they [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► thought turning point of the war who but [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► in retrospect also says here at [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► code-breaking code-breaking was a big [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► part of the war wasn't with the enigma [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► and stuff that's partly how we won right [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► well and in Europe and make my helped us [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► a lot and then they did that thing is [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► they didn't know we cracked it for a [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► long time now is a big part of a rate [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► that's the thing again is this why you [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► don't put your name for this way to put [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► your newspapers in the window [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► you're saying this much more valuable if [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► they don't know what we separate ships i [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► was reading about the potential much as [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► i do I don't know why I always end up [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► reading about awful things I ended up [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► you heard me earlier reference tell [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► ships i I've been reading on that [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► Frederick Douglass autobiography which [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► is a heck of a reed and and reading [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► about slave ships and apparently they're [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► pretty pretty unpleasant to be on what i [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► can tell it's just you were talking [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► about on death march and then you're [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► talking about Frederick Douglass and was [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► like I'm gonna pull this all together [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► my brain was just going to mention that [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► denzel washington movie but I was [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► turning the key and the starter was just [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► not engaging was like how is he gonna do [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► it how we connect those smiley I'm not [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► the scholar that you are but anyway then [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► I ended up reading diversely know how [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► this is the wikipedia problem is you're [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► not even reading these things why I know [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► more about serial killers and I would [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► ever hear my god me too i did i'd done [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► serial killers on wikipedia big time [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► there's a page we can find his killed [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► the most I think it's gary ridgway isn't [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► true [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► I haven't looked in a while Gary [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► ridgway's at this green river guy [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► no it was really he said he still holds [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► the record [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► well the problem is that you never know [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► how many possible 100-plus that's right [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► that's right and ended up reading about [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► the potential march which is all [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► the potential march which is all [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► so apparently pretty unpleasant that was [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► bad and so is it correct that with boys [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► is really gonna be a funny episode is [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► that down and they made it sound like [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► like though the really really horrific [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► things that happen on the potential [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► march we very effectively we yes it was [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► way the Allies the United States used it [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► very effectively to like redouble [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► everybody's effort on how important this [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► was [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► I mean at the time there was whispers [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► about about the camps right yeah but we [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► knew that they were just banning people [TS]

01:00:29 ◼   ► for no reason [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► yeah and that was now is it true that [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► was a very effective way to redouble [TS]