Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► well hi John how are you I'm Merlin man [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► i'll never get sick of it [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► you know what I'm gonna make it I gotta [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► work on the song thing this is getting [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► out of hand [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► the problem was that like for us this [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► already the problem with that being a [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► theme song is that the next line is [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► don't mean a thing [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► oh you Merlin man's don't mean a thing [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► to me but that's not true you do mean [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► something to me and uh huh [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► and so it's it's hard for me to sing [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► that even though its it's stuck in my [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► head [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► whoo-hoo because because i can't because [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► the sentiment doesn't reflect my true [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► feelings through art party says Jermaine [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► and other parts is tito now is that [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► nasty boys is that what you're saying [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► yeah it's a it's janet is a lot of [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► controversy about this John people i [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► think people have made the argument [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► persuasively that you're actually [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► singing something different [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► I don't want your musician your [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► professional musician I'm not going to [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► tell you what the people have ten years [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► me all you have to do is hold up that [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► that a that web app or that that iphone [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► app up to the stereos to see how how bad [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► technology is at identifying songs say [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► what buddy that has come a long way [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► since that day you and I tried to find [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► your son's come with very long way it [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► has come a long way but the prop my [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► problem is that the songs that I want to [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► identify i'm usually listening to in a [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► crowded supermarket at really low volume [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► and I hold my phone up in the air to try [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► and get the to try and get the audio but [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► there clattering shopping carts and [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► yelling kids and the thing can't it [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► can't sort the music out from them what [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► you know what it needs to do it needs to [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► use hearing aid technology from as I [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► think they're perfecting hearing aids [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► that can sort out the background noise [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► and focus the attention of the device on [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► the on the the interesting part i read [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► an article about this is not blasting [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► the high mids and it simply it's a huge [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► move forward in the technology last [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► thing the Hyneman I can hear anything [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► more John I [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► i I just not even like my eyesight my [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► hearing is all going to hell I'm going [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► to need something like that iphone app [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► just a halter so i can understand what [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► kind of dressing they have at the [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► restaurant I'll I'll and bed at night [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► and listen to the symphony of whistling [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► and whining happening in my ears and I'm [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► alone in my house it's not like it's [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► some girl next to me whistling and [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► whining know the sound of my own ears [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► slowly disintegrating you have the [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► tinnitus [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► yeah I never had it before i went to [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► rock shows for 25 years I never had a [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► whistling in my ear and then i went to a [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► bachelor party of a friend of mine where [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► we were firing ak-47 as you do and you [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► know you you were in this bunker of a [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► firing range cement wall cement floor [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► cement ceiling and everybody gets done [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► shooting their guns and we all take our [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► ear phones off to sit and talk about how [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► great the guns are and then everyone [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► gets back into firing position and i [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► have my earphone off on my right ear [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► I just forgot to put it back and [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► somebody shoots a bullet and the the [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► sound echoes around this concrete room [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► and goes right into my ear and I knew [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► right then like oh I have done permanent [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► damage to myself and sure enough [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► still now two years later you could get [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► that was I remember you talking about [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► that was two years ago [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► yeah and I and I went I went to an ER [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► doctor and he was like oh and he was one [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► of these doctors with the bedside manner [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► of a person that had been unfrozen from [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► a glacier like like he had only just met [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► modern humans today and you know I'm [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► asking him questions about like this [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► matters to me like my ears are kind of [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► my are part of my job and are you [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► whistling what does allow that's a [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► that's a siren I was I'm sorry I gashed [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► away definitely to try i thought i could [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► play it off the jit I thought John still [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► gonna be talking about his hearing and [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► run back and i got totally clocked [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► because there was a just siren and I you [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► don't like that this program i'm [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► extremely sorry that I did that was [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► inappropriate [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► that's hilarious no it's not it's not I [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► I I apologized saying I'm sorry I'm very [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► focused when I'm time do I thought you [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► had gone to the other side of the room [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► and whistled to try and test my hearing [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► which would have been a very clever move [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► that's break you [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► I can't hear it but I could hear it but [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► in any case this doctor was like he was [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► just a he was a bad doctor he was a bad [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► doctor in parti-colored dockers i'm [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► sorry i missed 30 seconds of this was [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► your first indication that this is a bad [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► doctor but be just had no bedside manner [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► he you know he look every time you ask [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► him to call every time I ask my question [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► i don't know why i'm using the universal [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► you every time I asked my question [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► he acted like he had never been asked a [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► question before I like it was an [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► imposition on him but in any case he's [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► an audiologist you want to do now he's a [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► ear nose and throat no I guess not even [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► a nose and throat he just does the ears [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► and anna and he said oh well if you had [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► come in to see me [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► yeah within three days of the of a [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► sustaining that injury we could have [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► done something about it [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► what a cock yeah and i was looking at [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► some fucking morning after pill for [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► further please [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► I think they do they have a [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► morning-after pill for her ear cut plan [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► E but then the one hopeful thing the one [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► hopeful thing he said he kind of like [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► looked at me kind of confidentially [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► after because I was trying to warm him [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► up you know with the Aug you do with [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► doctors [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► when you meet him for the first time [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► there's that thing of like oh you're a [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► doctor and I I used to be in all of [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► doctors before i had before a lot of my [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► highschool friends became doctors and I [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► realized that any dingus can be a doctor [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► but you try and you know you try to warm [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► up like this guy's gonna have his finger [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► in my butter I mean obviously not the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► ear doctor but a doctor could put his [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► finger in your butt you wasn't he's a [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► doctor I mean he's giving advice [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► well he's calling the shots he asking [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► sounds I think that doctors could make [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► the case that they probably feel your [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► butt a little bit he leans in kind of [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► confidential and he goes but just [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► between you and me you know in the next [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► couple of here couple years almost done [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► in the next couple of years in the next [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► couple of years [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► we're going to have a thing to fix this [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► tinnitus I guess any work but that's [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► right that's right then he was like say [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► no more i am you know like don't [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► reference it again I was like really [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► like new technology and he was like hmm [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► did you book your book an appointment [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► we're very close we're very close to a [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► major breakthrough you should put the [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► point of couple years from now check [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► back in what was interesting to me was [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► that this ear doctor at the polyclinic [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► on broadway in seattle is somehow tapped [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► into some like super super like deep in [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► a mountainside lab your doctors that are [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► very close to making this major [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► breakthrough and I'm like what what did [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► you just get back from a conference or [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► something out you guys also like text [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► each other [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► how do you know I don't want to make [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► this about world war two John but what [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► if he's involved in some kind of noise [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► commandos shorts commanders I said Mel [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► Brooks joke haha sorry ocular mean I [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► ocular means are ok with someone for [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► oral you can eat your killer what if [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► he's an ear killer Manhattan Project [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► have you thought about that he might be [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► working with some of the great minds of [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► Germany that he's lulled over here he [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► somehow he somehow attracted the burner [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► hurt Sox of of the eardrums to work on [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► the city maybe he can't say anymore [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► because it would you know obviously you [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► can be trusted with a secret because you [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► were at one point almost in Special [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► Forces probably said too much I don't [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► like that though John I don't like that [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► about doctors I don't I i like the kind [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► of doctors that are very down-to-earth [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► and you know I don't fucking know about [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► a lot of this stuff is buttery what we [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► can do for you [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► you know I an explosion went off by your [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► ear and like from from from the dawn of [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► time until now there's very little we [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► can do about that could be part of your [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► ear just got blown up a little bit dr. [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► they're talking about is smoking [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► Winston's while he's talking to you I'm [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► not much we can do [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► I think I promising a t-zone I i put [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► this high put this out there on the [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► internet the other day I was like look [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► I'm looking for a doctor and I want an [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► old-school doctor I don't want I don't [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► want a doctor who's going to tell me [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► about Eastern medicine I don't want a [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► doctor who's going to tell me that I [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► need to do aerobics I want the doctor [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► was just gonna be like an old-school [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► doctor who smoke cigarettes and he talks [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► to me like a like a guy right and so I [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► put this out there and on my facebook [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► page i get 30 replies from people like [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► oh you should use my doctor doctor you [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► know dr. Brianna McPherson she's amazing [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► and I'm like you're not listening to me [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► i'm not going to a doctor named brianna [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► she's gonna tell me that i need to [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► robust eyes i want i want a doctor he's [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► gonna talk about your lifestyle [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► yeah I need a doctor named Herman who [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► comes in the stethoscope is fucking [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► freezing [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► you're gonna get your naked is not even [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► a gown just you stand there naked while [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► he smokes that's the kind of doctor you [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► want you want somebody who goes you know [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► what there's no surgery for that yet [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► he's smoking he has a really cold [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► stethoscope and he has a pair of pliers [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► in his back pocket and and we sit and we [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► talked about you know we talked for 45 [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► minutes before he says so what's the [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► matter [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► yeah but anyway so I i made a doctor's [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► appointment or actually I didn't make a [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► doctor's appoint someone made a doctor's [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► appointment for me and I haven't been to [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► the doctor and I don't know how long i [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► don't i don't believe in doctors who [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► haven't gone to the doctor in a long [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► time but i but I i was bitching about [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► this and and then a person close to me [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► said you know what I'm gonna make your [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► doctor's appointment and now i have one [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► so i have to go to the doctor is nearby [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► how I mean everything in seattle is [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► nearby [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► but its a Mann's not nearby because in [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► my neighborhood there are no facilities [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► i live in a neighborhood with no [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► facilities nothing like a free clinic i [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► guess there they just built a free [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► clinic down the street which really [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► angered me because it was on this it was [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► on a lot that could have been a nice [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► cafe and they built a medical facility [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► for poor people and i have and as if [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► there aren't enough of those right right [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► the count is that really the Catalan [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► encourage there should have been there [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► should be there are no cafes down here [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► and there are like there are all kinds [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► of medical clinics and veterinarians [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► stuff textcaster question you think you [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► think those people are actually getting [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► their health is actually improving i'm [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► going to guess probably not [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► you can throw as many clinics as you [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► want we know what you can do carbon [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► offsets you say for every one of these [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► clinics you've also got a build like a [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► cafe and nice cafe not like some kind of [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► scored together cafe was a korean guy [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► like I want a nice cafe was real coffee [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► i want i want Angry ladies with tattoos [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► exactly is as much a skunk that's how [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► much to ask I think things are all the [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► all the tattoo coffee shops are all up [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► in the neighborhood where there are no [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► brown people and I live down with the [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► brown people and they did you know [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► nobody serves services them with good [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► coffee [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► he missed he missed the capital [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► experienc know it's irrelevant to me now [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► I go up there and I walk around and I [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► feel like a minute late lady gaga video [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► and I I don't that's just the men i [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► can't i can't i cannot identify all I [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► can identify our I mean I look around at [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► the kids and I see all of the I see all [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► of the ways in which the men have ripped [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► off my fashion sense so calling and the [TS]

00:11:55 ◼   ► girls have all ripped off the fashion [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► senses of all the girls I was dating 10 [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► years ago [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► it's really annoying with a little bit [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► of editing that could be a hit Willie [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► Nelson song you know there's a prob with [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► diversity John the problem diversity is [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► it was always benefit all brother [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► there's so many there's so many problems [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► with diversity and I know what I don't [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► go ping pong i'm going to skip the whole [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► cafe problem that black box will come [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► back to that in another time [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► Rachel room I [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► what well I don't know I didn't say [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► anything did I also love your arms it's [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► a lady thing too isn't it [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► oh I just said about now you never are [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► saucy man mama and you know I don't [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► diversity diversity you know what we [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► shouldn't even open that box if you know [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► what I mean when I was in fifth grade [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► yet don't open the black box me when I [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► was in fifth grade now without a strong [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► cup of coffee when I was in fifth grade [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► my reading book was called serendipity [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► 100 this is different now what we are [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► two books is that right [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► serendipity and diversity writes [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► anything to her second have talked about [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► this 50 in sixth grade serendipity [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► university has some science centers have [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► told us that they had the same books [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► I've heard that yeah I i did not realize [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► that diversity was going to be such a [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► problem later [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► yeah Israel is it it's you know it's one [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► of those things like auto insurance like [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► it seems like a good idea you know you [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► maybe yeah but i feel i feel like when i [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► run for president my platform will be no [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► more nanny-state mandatory auto [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► insurance [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► true true because there's a lot of force [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► insurance going to the Obamacare rhino [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► tonight mama care and I know you don't [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► want to talk about it since when I look [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► I'm not gonna talk about the Tea Party [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► that I like that I like that you're [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► talking about all these things that I [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► assume people on fox news talk about I [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► like they're coming up with these [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► portmanteaus you know what those are [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► very sticky but you can have a sticky [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► portman tell by just just smashing a [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► couple things together you know my god [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► I'm just let's see what it's a couple of [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► good against your business name like mr. [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► Chand not see I've never heard that [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► before that was good i just pointed yeah [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► I'm sure that I'm sure we'll see that on [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► fox news in in two months [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► what about diversity sexual diversity [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► sexual mood or a and I'm thinking about [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► that this morning actually the diverse [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► sexuality because you know that it'sit's [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► this common trope that if you if you let [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► the gays marry if you let the gays out [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► of the stables and everybody's gonna [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► know all that although like the young [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► boys who are on the fence [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► asian men who are on the fence that [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► argument makes me so angry you're gonna [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► see that the gay lifestyle is so going [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► around them they're gonna recruit like [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► they're out there getting Hitler Youth [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► playing a tube and bang on the drum and [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► suddenly everybody was a uniform i don't [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► i don't think that's how it works John [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► Roderick well let me let me tell you [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► from from personal experience when I was [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► a young man in my early twenties and I [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► moved to Seattle it was during the it [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► was during the big explosion of the gay [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► rights time the gay rights movement [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► right the the uh we're out and we're [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► proud and what I think when i arrived in [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► seattle 1990 it was just it was just at [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► the beginning you know there was still a [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► very vibrant underground gay culture and [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► then gay culture went went mainstream [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► and it happened very fast and I was [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► living right in the middle of it as a [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► young person surrounded by other young [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► people and being gay singh very exciting [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► days had a good sense of humor [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► they were they were chic they seem to be [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► that they felt newly liberated [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► light-hearted intellectual good shoes [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► yeah I wanted to feel newly liberated I [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► too had been living in a closet of a [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► kind the closet of of unacceptability [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► unacceptable notice i wanted to feel [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► liberated [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► where's my parade that's right where's [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► my parade where's Mike Wright was my [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► pleasure that I get to our dolphin [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► shorts on [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► where's my where's my world war one [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► aficionado parade [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► yeah well some sellers my throbbing it's [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► raining men loop so i went to a lot of [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► parties with my gay friends and I tried [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► out the gay lifestyle is not the [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► one-time shot with that big black buck [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► ears this is this is ongoing [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► this is an ongoing human experiment [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► you're participating and willfully [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► knowingly you were trying something on [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► correct true for a couple years there i [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► would make out with boys when the [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► opportunity presented itself which it [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► frequently did and and I really said you [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► know let's try that lets what about [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► bisexual [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► let's try bisexual [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► see what that let's see how that feels [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► and I really feel like if it were if it [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► were possible for a person to change [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► their sexual orientation by exerting the [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► there will be if it were possible for a [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► person to cheat let me let me simplify [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► that by using the word choose for [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► possible to choose your sexual [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► orientation [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► I think I would have chosen to have AI [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► in fact i tried to choose to have a more [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► open sexual orientation then it turns [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► out i ended up with a friend [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► we're in the final accounting i realized [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► that i was ten percent bisexual not [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► enough to sustain a bi sexual [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► relationship just does that is [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► introduction to say that makes you five [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► percent gay or how's that breakdown a [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► pie graph mi would say he founded by [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► special thing to be you on the bubble [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► and you're right it's square in the [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► middle [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► what you doing huh had sixteen percent k [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► i'm never gonna say bite ya know I was [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► let's say i was twenty percent bisexual [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► 10-percent game [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► okay but uh but when i when i read this [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► all this like hyperbole about all if we [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► if we legalize gay marriage then oh it's [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► just the beginning of this slippery [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► slope or pretty soon it's just gonna be [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► a pro Tosh in elevators and it looks [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► like that mean that the argument these [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► ppl makes its that's sweeping the other [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► guys and Castle it let me guess it's [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► gonna be it's like we're one step away [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► John it's not possible john i'm going to [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► share a very fast and don't take your [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► girl here but i wanna i wanna very fast [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► anecdote and visit my mama few years ago [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► my mom you know she's really serious you [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► know she carries a gun and stuff and not [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► just 14 mm yep yep in so our friend of [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► hers who you know why has been like a [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► thumb sick family member since childhood [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► on she's like and she's fun like the bay [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► area originally she's from like he's [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► made no from the east bay and when I go [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► clean but like you know the white people [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► might go out in east and she and she [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► current shouting no no that's that's [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► north but she's picking your kind of [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► picking a thing with me and I can [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► already feel she's picking a thing with [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► me like oh present [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► from San Francisco and yeah that's [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► pretty rare and expensive and it's nice [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► there's lots to do and Jim she's [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► implying sheezy you can feel it you know [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► it is your lips witchy ways i have to [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► get sorry if I don't know if it's even [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► me it's just more like watching an old [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► man tried to punch somebody who's not [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► even there like she's got she's getting [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► ready to swing and like there's nothing [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► to really hit and I'm not taking the [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► bait and your mom's friend she is my [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► mom's friend and I'm buttonholed like [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► I'm stuck by her like in a bar I can't [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► get out [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► I'm stop hold you're stuck by her in a [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► bar near buttonholed your buttonhole [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► dinner party I tried and they've been [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► sitting next to somebody where you want [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► to literally kill yourself a dental and [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► they're gonna try again but holding my [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► seat in the early nineties right hey [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► justjust that outside with something IDK [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► so what did you think about one concept [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► while working on this vote voting i [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► think voting is what happened in seattle [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► i'm going to continue to focus is huge [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► and so and so she's needling me now and [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► I'm not really taking the bait and and I [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► I go straight into the story that I [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► believe in my heart is part of what [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► makes san francisco in san francisco is [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► such a stupid fucking town in so many [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► ways but i will tell you one thing I [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► genuinely love about San Francisco it [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► was like the yeah it's like the island [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► of misfit toys huh [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► we never got to this in one of our [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► previous World War two discussions but [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► you know what made one thing was there [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► an island of misfit toys & World War two [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► I think you're thinking rankin/bass [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► here's what happened [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► you got if you got this is you don't [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► steal my job my job is to derail your [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► job is to talk about the cold where [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► where I i'm going to be an interrupting [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► cow this episode let's ride bikes [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► I'm sony i'm sorry and i believe this [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► like his first of all just a little bit [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► back in the sack I don't know is I see [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► accurate but it's my understanding that [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► in world war two if you got thrown out [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► of the armed forces in the Pacific [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► Theater for being gay [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► hey guess where they dropped you off [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► bikini atoll very close another place [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► that the bomb the port of San Francisco [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► so you are somebody who got kicked out [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► for being a the game San Francisco [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► started in World War two [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► is a wanted to see this is 1 this is one [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► Ark there's another arc which is of [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► course like the beats and stuff but [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► that's all you know there's a synergy to [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► all these stuff happening and one of [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► them is there's a whole bunch of people [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► think about that think about the self [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► selection of that like you were a gay [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► dude in the in the fucking Navy Army [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► whatever who acted upon it like you were [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► ready to like risk that sure you get [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► thrown out and you're like holy fucking [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► shit there's all these other dudes here [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► who wanted the same thing [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► yes hooray exactly and it's like this [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► it's like your snake plissken but it is [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► being dropped into a new york city [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► prison camp it's all shiny guys you're [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► dropped into a hilltop city surrounded [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► by water and donald pleasance want to [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► suck your dick [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► my point is you land and I think first [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► of all let's partay [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► I think that's glorious I think it's [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► amazing if you're somebody who has [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► trouble understanding how you fit into [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► the world and who you are to land in an [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► environment where suddenly you're not [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► the definitely like quote-unquote fucked [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► up person and and I'm trying to make [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► this case to her and saying hey lucky no [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► castro street in in 1976 really listen I [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► was just you have really engage this [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► woman and conversation right now I'm [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► trying to make a case to her that that [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► she's saying the gay marriage should not [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► happen San Francisco implying I know [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► she's saying gay marriage never happened [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► and she's saying that basically San [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► Francisco is like this petri dish for [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► wrong and anyway I made the same case [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► different and I made to my mom like she [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► would see two guys kissing and get super [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► uncomfortable not imagine you spent your [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► entire life feeling like you're the only [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► person in the world who is really [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► screwed up about something and then you [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► found a million other people or you know [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► whatever hundred thousand people who [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► felt the same way you because your [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► family right and i think i was like you [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► know you've got kids would love it if [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► your kids felt out of place the whole [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► life and they finally found somebody [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► that understood them [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► no not of your kids were kissing some [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► other other person of the same sex [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► clothes she said what auto ship said the [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► problem is if we allow gay marriage [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► people also be like allowed to marry [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► their dogs and I don't [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► and I was dumbstruck because I I always [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► thought that was one of those [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► make-believe like hillbilly things [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► people said this is an educated woman [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► who is a successful professional who [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► thinks that gay people fuck children and [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► dogs [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► well if you read your history yeah you [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► will you before work you this before [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► World War 2 the the ones great nation of [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► slop obeah witch which legalized man on [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► dog marriage and it's spelled the end of [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► their civilization [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► so this happened this is sort of like [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► between the Etruscans and the Assyrians [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► the Slovenians were great seafaring [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► people and the house and semen [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► well there was considerable semen and [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► and they you know they were great dog [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► breeders and there's a seam and abroad [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► and there were a lot of a lot of people [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► who felt like their dogs were refined of [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► character and noble of temperament and [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► that they would make fine spouses [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► partners part life partners truth and [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► and they would spell that the doom of [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► their civilization [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► yeah so a little bit of an outlier your [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► mom and a lot of the Conservatives have [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► have a valid point if you if you believe [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► that history speaks to our present [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► condition there's just there's so many [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► things and I don't like politics but [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► this is not politics this is like the [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► culture and it's important life and [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► culture is the section of the newspaper [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► that you turn to immediately sure I like [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► to see what karl lagerfeld showing right [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► I'm just saying like if you get one [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► thing that's one thing to be talking [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► about policy and politics and it's [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► another thing to talk about like [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► somebody's ability to just live like a [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► like a normal human being and the [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► problem is she does not think that's a [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► normal human being [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► no and as much as I didn't want to take [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► the bait I finally just got done button [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► hold and have to walk away cause like I [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► you know that this is exactly you and I [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► had an argument a couple of years ago [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► where I said that I don't believe that [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► christians or religious people of any [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► stripe should drink alcohol [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► wasn't drunk when we talked about this [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► and you argued you argued that I was [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► being ridiculous and that Christians [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► didn't have to get a lot more specific [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► of course should be able to drink [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► alcohol and i said no i don't think so i [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► don't remember this because the [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► religious experience thing [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► yeah I don't think that what I don't [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► think that religious people should drink [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► alcohol or take drugs or or commit [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► adultery or do any bad things because it [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► because they have they have eternal [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► reward in heaven to look forward to [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► whereas the rest of us who are going to [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► spend eternity in torment the only fun [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► that we get is here on earth did you [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► know finger banging each other and if [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► the Christians are in here also like [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► sopping up all the gravy with their buns [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► that it's all that much less gravy for [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► me and the rest of the secular humanists [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► due to Eternity and in the pit of fire [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► so personally I personally I feel like [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► religious people should be if they can [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► if they cannot handle the responsibility [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► of living in cities while maintaining [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► their sort of separatist I another [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► separatists identity then I think that [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► they should be corralled into camps / [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► nice ones nice camps because this world [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► they can be fixed the camp's can be made [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► to be nice [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► separate but equal let's just say all of [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► Oklahoma so we could put it we could put [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► some fencing it can be attractive [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► fencing i'm not saying it has to be [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► cyclone wire is kind of Marcus Garvey [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► type situation they want to be together [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► let's get a mouse game altogether look [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► at is I don't understand why religious [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► people want to live in cities cities are [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► vibrant places that people can stitch [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► things in each other and yell at each [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► other and there's a there there are all [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► kinds of people smoke marijuana there [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► are all kinds of things that happen in [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► cities [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► I don't understand why religious people [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► even want to be here [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► I feel like they they probably don't and [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► that they are here just because they [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► were born here or their parents moved [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► them here and where they really want to [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► be is in a bucolic place somewhere where [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► they can't be too they can't be injured [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► by offense [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► speech or by seeing men kiss or whatever [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► it is that's hurting their feelings and [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► that place could be maybe that the [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► entirety of Kansas Nebraska let's not [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► mince words you want to put everyone in [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► utah you want a cute on converted to a [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► full crazy crazy religion that there's [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► here's the problem i would like to [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► respond also please continue alright [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► here's the problem with utah right in [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► the middle of Utah there's a there's a [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► range of mountains called the Rocky [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► Mountains and unfortunately if you look [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► at you talk to map it seems plenty big [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► enough to hold all the religious people [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► but unfortunately everything west of the [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► Rocky Mountains is an uninhabitable [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► wasteland [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► so all the religious people would have [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► to live up in the mountains and on this [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► high kind of rocky plain and I [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► understand completely that religious [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► people would potentially want maybe [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► someone climate or some green green [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► pastures truth so i can't confine them [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► to you tie it has to be it has to be [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► geographically more diverse there's that [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► word again before diversity but I feel [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► like some some geographical diversity is [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► it is important for people maybe a [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► little beach we could have a we could [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► have like Galveston that could be there [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► beach [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► I don't know this is art and still [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► pie-in-the-sky stuff tonight but I don't [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► understand why religious person would [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► want to live in [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► yeah san francisco city i really don't [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► like until you graduate from college [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► john w capable of so much of a better [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► argument than that that is that it's got [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► to be one of the nine to 16 weakest [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► arguments I've ever heard you make what [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► are you talking about doesn't make a [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► lick and that is that is that is to [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► understand how bananas close to a [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► religious insanity that argument is I [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► know you're being exaggerating but no [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► you don't really believe that about [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► people of faith people of faith will you [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► what you use this word religious so [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► you're tying in like you know what you [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► know Coptic Christians with like you [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► know UFO cult like what is anybody in [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► your life is any faith in something snow [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► no that's not what I'm saying you're not [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► you're 60 I think you should i eat i [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► think you need to separate the people [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► who have jobs in narcotics anonymous are [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► entitled to have a Power greater than [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► selves uh-huh and still live in cities [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► should avoid this did the Cassie [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► question i'm gonna know what I'm just [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► gonna I'm just gonna put a stake in the [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► ground here this is gonna have to be [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► another episode III can't even begin to [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► shoot take apart all the ways that you [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► are so incredibly wrong about that so [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► much of that apart from one of the [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► people that put people in a bad state [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► there's a lot of people i would like to [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► put in a bad state we're talking about [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► that Oklahoma bad state [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► I don't know the wind comes sweeping [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► down the plain is that still the case [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► there are plenty of nice things in [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► Oklahoma do you have a sense of how [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► however never eat sushi there how is the [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► corner give any sense of that the corn [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► is above your head [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► I say it in a musical guy are you [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► I thought you're trying to quote from [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► the musical Oklahoma which brings me [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► back to my question which is that where [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► you regarded by the legitimate [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► homosexuals as something of a [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► carpetbagger part of my pardon my french [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► you soon as a carpetbagger you home in [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► you come in you hang out a little bit [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► with your musky masculine and you're and [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► you're like finish classes collection [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► and and you're in there making out with [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► people you're taking pieces off the [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► table so to speak where you seen as a [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► carpetbagger on Roderick I think that [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► but I think that'd be legitimately [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► well-adjusted young homosexuals of [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► Seattle we're not interested in pursuing [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► a brief relationship with me but the [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► number of young well-adjusted [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► emotionally well-adjusted gays in [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► seattle in 1992 was a fraction of the [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► population of the homosexual community [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► through most of the young homosexuals [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► were also confused and frankly also [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► their sexuality was on a continuum right [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► there were some who were more inclined [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► to make out straight boys there were [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► some who were more inclined to sort of [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► be right on the fence [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► also this is a problem of vegetarianism [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► to now if you're vegetarian [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► let's go back let's go back and look at [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► something like the boys in the band [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► which now as a movie seems like [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► something from another planet because [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► it's so broad you ever see that movie [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the play i did it say I liked it I liked [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► it a lot my mother actually directed [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► that as a one-time you're playing around [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► there's a lot of mincing and it's almost [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► like an allegory it's almost something [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► Rod Serling was like with all right like [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► that you're the seven kinds of [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► homosexuals arguing independent marked [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► as late as the early nineties i think [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► that was still more or less [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► representative of how I'm gonna take it [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► like for the time you know there's a lot [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► of stairs a lot of things that happened [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► in the sixties where you would look back [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► and go wow that still that seems pretty [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► casually racist in retrospect but you go [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► wow it's pretty amazing that like you [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► know you look something like in the heat [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► of the night [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► I mean it's incredible that that man got [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► baked in some ways it's so good in city [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► party is so obviously the smartest [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► person in the movie and I think at the [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► time a lot of cactus kind of racism too [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► well known at the time [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► not compared to hang something from a [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► tree I mean that's a pretty long way to [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► have Hollywood putting a good-looking [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► guy as the lead Bill Cosby on man from [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► uncle what have you forget everything [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► but said was to their credit didn't [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► really Lynch a lot of people thought [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► that you never know how did you find out [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► about here's the part 1 here the problem [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► now so you take something like boys in [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► the band and like I think if you were a [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► 8th most probably most people i'm [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► guessing something closeted you know i [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► mean it was not cool to be out of the [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► closet unless you know except in very [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► specific situations are very specific [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► cities i bet on the size of that cool [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► that's right but you saw that movie and [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► for the first time you saw yourself on [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► screen yeah maybe mincing but you [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► weren't just like the Clifton Webb [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► character or something when you see you [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► you're talking about me if I were gay I [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► don't know I don't know I could go [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► either way [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► good you and me both for a while I've [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► lost my point again you know the fact is [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► i can't say i don't understand this [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► episode John model year i'm completely [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► and I said we've been doing a lot of [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► coffee [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► I know I quit caffeine so that all [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► brother win I quit caffeine on new [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► year's day huh [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► I haven't had any caffeine Zanu you're [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► still not sleeping [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► no I sleep like a baby about but the [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► reason I want to go to the doctors i'm [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► walking around in a fog all the time I [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► don't have any uh uh i'm fortunate [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► always foggy I feel a little foggy and [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► feeling funky but here's the thing about [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► that's the thing about being gay if the [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► right young man approached me after a [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► show before [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► I have I i have to say that really if he [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► smelled right but there's a lot of smell [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► and involved if you smelled like every [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► time I still give it a go but you worry [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► about your culpability in that working [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► out because he might feel the same way [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► maybe maybe that that particular way [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► that you smell could be quote unquote [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► right to him racing that's a possibility [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► could be could be [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► I mean I've smelled right to people [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► before but here's the way I am I no [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► longer i'm no longer in the business of [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► worrying about other people's capability [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► through they are looking for you [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► yeah I think that's terrific i think i [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► was arrested themselves when they when [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► they come up against me when they meet [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► me in a dark alley making up the up to [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► me in the in the high corn you know [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► they'd better they better be a better [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► bet their a game because i'm not gonna [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► hold their hand know who threw finally [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► like 45 musicals a lot but not all night [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► there aren't many others just like [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► problems it's like palms I thought I [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► like poetry and look like a you know the [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► range of poetry and it's like it's like [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► folk music 15 poem or reggae or musicals [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► were like it turns out i like well no I [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► mean I'll say they're like five poets [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► maybe that I like that you're going to [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► be contrast you celebrate the entire [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► Jerry Lewis catalog that's not accurate [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► but I'm not going to sit there and like [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► spend an evening reading Gary Snyder or [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► something [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► no no offense and they don't know where [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► the turtles are very nice but it right [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► and so that's the problem this is this [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► is this is part of the problem we get to [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► users tell me what of the Jerry Lewis [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► stuff you don't like this you really [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► want to get into this now ugh I wish you [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► wouldn't change the topic i'm emily i [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► limit myself to four cards i want to [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► talk more about the driver and I felt [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► like from the very beginning that we had [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► switched roles this season of reveling [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► in this is not a difficult this is not [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► difficult to understand at a high level [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► Jerry Lewis is fascinating [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► yes because my goodness because even if [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► you're not being reductive he is full of [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► so many paradoxes and and so many like [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► unresolved bowl [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► just warring size to his personality [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► ride that day the clown cried is [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► actually get some it i don't think it i [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► mean i've seen like the script patton [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► oswalt claims to have feelings [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► yeah I mean it's okay yeah a lot of [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► people claim to have seen it i know [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► Harry Shearer how to copy the script I i [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► I've seen bits from the script and it's [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► some staggering and how many pages like [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► 300 pages I mean it's a very very long [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► movie for those for those in our [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► audience in the minority who don't know [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► what this is going to explain you're [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► gonna explain the day the crown clown [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► cried [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► it's it out keep it short i mean the [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► background is that people could [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► wikipedia except then wikipedias is [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► closed begging you not to get me started [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► on that the arm here's the thing Jerry [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► Lewis decided to do a movie uh where he [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► plays a a clown and I believe poland on [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► the same helmet dork how much work is a [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► clown also makes fun he makes fun of the [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► Nazis they put him in a death camp it [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► becomes his job to do clown stuff to [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► make children going to the gas chamber [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► right so that's the Jerry Lewis movie [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► and had trouble getting it made [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► apparently he had to go to I want to [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► sweeten conceivable I don't have the [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► number in front of me but I you know [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► it's one minute per page generally in [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► the script hundred is pretty much [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► something something like it's a really [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► would be a real it's really fucking long [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► movie i don't think it was completed but [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► is it but he did draw attention to one [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► of the little known fact facets of the [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► Holocaust you know you know about the [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► gypsies and you know about obviously the [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► Jews and heterosexuals who speaks for [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► the clients who speaks with a client [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► that's right i didn't say anything I [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► didn't say anything when they came to [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► the clouds for class because i wasn't a [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► clown right and then when they came for [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► me there is no one left to keep shooting [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► with seltzer [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► that's right horns honk their red nose [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► here the nice thing though I mean you'd [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► be amazed how many of those clowns you [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► can actually fit into a gas chamber [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► what's up so my point is here's the [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► thing about Jerry Lewis if you go out if [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► you go out and search for this if you go [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► in search for the decline Christ you [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► will find production skills productions [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► still you know that you will see in [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► pictures of that they're absolutely [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► horrifying [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► yeah because it's jerry lewis in shitty [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► clown makeup wearing the like Auschwitz [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► striped outfits [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► mmm and guess what happens when a person [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► no longer has people around him who can [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► tell him no this is the George Lucas [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► problem and here's the thing about Jerry [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► Lewis and I like to move on because this [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► is not that interesting isn't it is that [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► he is full of these kinds of nobody can [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► dispute the amount of great things that [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► he did for the Muscular Dystrophy [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► Association in the sense that he brought [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► in a ton of money and if to use a phrase [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► that is virtually meaningless today he [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► raised a huge amount of awareness about [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► the disease was very unknown in [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► otherwise really most muscular dystrophy [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► is and i watch that telephone river for [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► 10 years probably you know why you know [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► why because you either the parts where [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► they make you cry and they talk about [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► whatever duchesne something something [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► right but mostly you and him about [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► Leslie you remember him acting like he [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► was retarded and talking about his kids [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► and bringing up grown men in wheelchairs [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► and trying to make them cry on stage [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► there thereby bringing all these people [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► into his twisted universe where where he [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► could at once [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► don't you remember you might remember [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► the one a few years ago when he joined [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► him with the chorus and was like doing [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► the whole like about the long thing and [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► let me stop you right there i have not [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► watched the journalist telephone since [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► 1978 and you call yourself and you call [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► yourself bisexual [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► I don't remember the one from a couple [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► of years ago I wasn't aware they still [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► happened what I generally get dropped [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► out this last I remember turning yeah i [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► was in a in a beach cabin in on Maui for [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► the man with a man or by yourself [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► flowers with my father that's simple in [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► 1978 at that point I was just [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► experimenting with my relatives who were [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► politician it was beautiful out it was [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► beautiful the waves were crashing on the [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► beach with a beautiful sunny Hawaii day [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► and that we were inside watching the [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► Jerry Lewis telethon because it was not [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► something that you missed it was a [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► cultural it was like an after school [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► special it was like a it was like a [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► Marlin Perkins how is it there was no [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► question I mean you know what happened [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► once a year you want right that's right [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► and indeed your father enjoy that you [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► guys stay up late or stars come out with [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► your dad didn't watch it my dad was a [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► was an old enough person to know that [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► this was dumb but is fighting against [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► Sammy Davis jr. [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► my dad loved Sammy Davis jr. my dad was [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► that same generation so it's a very very [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► talented manually as 1i Sam yeah Sam [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► who's yeah he's racing cars in less than [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► I won I won I won I everything isn't [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► that's right that's right married and [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► sweetest girl who is much taller than he [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► was [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► she was handsome that was a good-looking [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► ladies and attractively she was super [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► cute those guys really are they must [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► have had a time [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► yeah well if you read the biographies [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► sean lee biography which I'm sure you [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► will now called King of Comedy you you [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► will realize what a tortured individual [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► he's I'm not gonna go on about this i'm [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► gonna start a separate podcast with the [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► golden will be able to talk about all of [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► this something before I'm not going to [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► hurt much as I'd like carpetbagging [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► teabagging you know what here's the [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► thing also you know what you want to [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► talk about is I got a card I got a card [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► now we go back to Schwartz commando it [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► means white no black what's white lice [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► vice shorts commando you never read [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► gravity's rainbow this tension [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► yeah true I think I've the crying of [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► area 51 [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► that's that's a good place to start and [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► end with that so tonight I would never [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► change choice in today when I was very [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► young then I walked into a bookstore [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► choice and there was a man behind the [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► counter who looked like a book store [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► employee was a heavyset gentleman to go [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► in our pollen and he had a red yet long [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► red hair and a red beard which he had [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► kinda shaved down his cheeks and he was [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► wearing a sweater under a tweed jacket [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► and he probably had a pipe in the pocket [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► of his Mackinaw [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► and I said something gold spike sport [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► and walked in and water the content [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► look I I got some time to kill what's [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► your favorite book [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► I want to know your favorite book and he [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► lights up his his formerly like pinched [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► book store employee since cynical face [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► lit up and he went oh [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► gravity's rainbow and he comes out from [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► my own account he walked me back into [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► the you know to the peas and he pulls [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► gravity's rainbow off the shelf and he [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► goes you have to read it's the greatest [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► book ever written and he gave himself to [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► me for half price because he really [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► wants me to you know I only had a dollar [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► or something really really wants me to [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► read this book and over the course of [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► the next two years I tried to read [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► gravity's rainbow but at one point I i [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► had like i was reading the book in four [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► different places I had bookmarks and for [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► replacing the book and I was I would sit [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► down and pick up the book at activation [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► i could not finish and keep reading and [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► I read this book and I read this book [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► and I never made it past about page 512 [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► reading it and I was picking and i put [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► it down and read other stuff obviously [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► and then that baby sitting there on the [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► bookshelf throbbing this dull red glow [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► you haven't finished me you are smart [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► you can't read and finally one summer I [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► was like you bastard [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► I'm gonna read the fuck out of you and I [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► sat down and I it was like it was like [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► one at the time i read The Iliad all the [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► way through i was like you are going to [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► sit here and you're going to read this [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► fucking book and I read the goddamn [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► gravity's rainbow all the way through [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► and when I was done was done [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► oh I i I'm good i was going to say I [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► threw it out the window but I didn't [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► it's sitting on the bookshelf now I'm [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► looking at it as i speak but it no [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► longer throbs much and feel what was [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► done did you feel like a sense of [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► accomplishment or we just we winded [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► well here's what happens in this book at [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► page [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► 750 it's that long [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► it's a long weekend [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► I might be using the crying of lot 49 [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► sorry for 149 as a short book [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► well that's the at the GF proof arc to [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► the wasteland right it's much more at [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► you know Dubliners kind of way in right [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's scary but uh but at about [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► read about page 1750 or whatever i don't [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► i don't remember how many pages it has [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► but all the way back after it's like [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► you've already read five books that [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► don't make any sense at all [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► it's the story starts to come together [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► and you're like oh wait I know what he's [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► talking about [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► now finally after 700 pages of reading [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► through gibberish I know what he is [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► referring to now and and now i am [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► getting it and then the last little bit [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► of the story is like a fun adventure [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► story where you're like yay i'm glad you [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► get a little you get a little dessert [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► the end it's like it's like it you have [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► to suffer you have to basically read The [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► Silmarillion and again a little hobbit a [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► lot i am i started a new car and I can't [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► decide if you're if you're up for a [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► lightning round I thought we could do [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► lighting around also i want to talk a [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► little bit about something not today but [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► it doesn't if you tried like to talk [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► about whether people confuse Tom of [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► Finland with Tom's made because i think [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► the whole thing that happens if you had [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► like I'm looking for some tom's of Maine [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► tooth whitener government you confuse it [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► with Tom of Finland tens what story are [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► in all that i bet some stores are used [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► to either one of those going wrong you [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► can solve that if you got a big gay sex [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► store by just having some toothpaste in [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► there and got to make everybody happy [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► here is that toothpaste is pretty gross [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► Tom of Finland I bet it is gross well it [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► depends to ten percent like yeah [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► calamine lotion I remember my first [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► which the baking soda toothpaste [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► consistency on rock it was not until [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► last year I thought crest and colgate [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► were essentially interchangeable and now [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► i cannot have Christ in my mouth it is [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► so disgusting to me all academic [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► how can I go 44 years without knowing [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► the difference in Christian Colgate I [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► thought it was a meaningless mean was [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► brand difference right you know what I [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► really like you I think a cup of [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► hydrogen peroxide and switch around my [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► mouth for a minute [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► you have to do special stuff with your [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► with your teeth you have to do like any [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► kind of special cleaning stuff with your [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► make-believe teeth [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► the number the number of pages I have [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► somewhere in this house detailing all [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► the special stuff I have to do with my [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► teeth for real it's like gravity's [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► rainbow it's a braid you have a bridge [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► no I don't have a printer I have a [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► there's a tooth wear my missing two [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► things over there is a tooth and it's [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► basically soldered in place held up the [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► place by a combination of braces glue [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► wheatpaste sawdust horsehair guitar [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► string and it just it just covers their [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► hearts gotta Dario bridge and it just [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► hovers there and I'm I can't this is why [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► i can't get a big pastrami sandwich [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► anymore because my my front tooth my [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► main pastrami incisor is it's not [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► functional justice system facade i am [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► writing this on one of my actual cars [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► i'm going to keep nearby I i if and when [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► you're comfortable but we don't have [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► time today i would like to talk about [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► the the teeth and how they got there me [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► know yeah but no no I know mean pastrami [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► incisor is that right [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► mm that's pretty good Tom of Finland ok [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► alright well you never you know the top [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► of finland stuff here's the problem with [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► the legislature romp with Tom finland [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► this is where I realized that whatever [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► whatever on the gay scale I was it was [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► very straight [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► that's super gay is that I masculine men [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► i don't find attractive at all about [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► bears no no you don't like a bear right [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► they find me attractive a distance i [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► love bears are the friends of mine i [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► have a couple friends that are bears or [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► bear chasing guys and and the I gotta [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► say of of the the different you know [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► self-identifying groups and easily one [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► of my favorites there's some go along [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► get along guys able to make the beer [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► Superman that [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► I don't know like I don't know thousands [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► of gay people but among my friends who [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► are gay i think i think the bears are [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► pound-for-pound the most fun [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► well pound for pound pound for pound the [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► thing about the Bears you like [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► everything a day i was having like if I [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► if I really needed to cry which net [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► which which the last time it happened [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► was nineteen eighty-four but if I really [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► need to cry and I had a bear friends [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► that I could just lay my head on his [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► chest or and really really like have a [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► good cry [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► yeah that's that's the one type of [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► person in the world that is big enough [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► and furry enough and comforting enough [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► but I could actually lean on them as [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► opposed to always being the one that [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► people lean on you go with one of those [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► shiny gym rats that's all that's all [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► things you don't like I don't like crazy [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► exactly try to help that guy going to [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► slide right off the the world my [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► homosexuality manifests itself [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► exclusively and being attracted two [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► twinks that is not a word that is not a [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► word that I know it's like a little [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► filipino kind of guy [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► well like a cabana boy you have like a [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► compatible like your dad like a Moroccan [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► how do you think it kind of tiny and [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► friendly is tidies friendly smells good [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► cook extremely good cook twi NK his hair [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► his hair kind of like comes down [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► playfully in front of his like Leonardo [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► DiCaprio thing I could like a young [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► Leonardo DiCaprio who is not playing a [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► retarded pretty fat ok a tent and twink [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► no no you know what fat is ok like a [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► little chubby little little twink that's [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► not those are the ones i always bet on [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► it strength upon don't think twink is [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► being funny okay i think that is in the [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► the great game lexicon I think twink is [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► an accepted reference something we're [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► only allowed to call themselves that [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► well like I like mexicans this is one of [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► those things where I feel like I live on [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► Capitol Hill have lived on capital for [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► many as 50 miles house and talk about [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► your mom's house and i am i'm entitled [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► bye-bye grandfathering through and by [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► you know by having my pinky and enough [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► people's poopers that i can use the [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► lexicon is very gentle very gentle how [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► do you pick a pinky I don't you know [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► what you actually you know what I don't [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► want to go back to picture you [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► twinks crying 1984 was an Olympic thing [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► the crying of lot 49 [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► ok I got it really her thing when I [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► cried in 1984 I've ever seen [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► I was a teenager I cried because some [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► girl was mean that's the first thing [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► that's the last time you cried I don't [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► know attractive my teeth with my parents [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► yelled at me the last time I cried I [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► don't know what I have everything I [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► cried when my dad died [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► oh I'm sorry about that well you start [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► talking about crying and yeah I don't [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► ask for [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► I like that guy his fun to be around [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► he's good he's a pistol he was a pistol [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► in fact that's a phrase he would have [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► used he's a pistol and now our listeners [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► are going to think that you're making a [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► silly dad voice but he sounded like that [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► but 10 times more potent brew and [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► managerial this one [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► ok so I'm lightning around here [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► ok so tristram shandy to finish it no [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► keeps his Endymion long poem member at [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► infinite jest you ever go all the way [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► through yeah i read it really okay i'll [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► come back to that you listen problem but [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► but more entertaining Maddox absolutely [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► now you've been through Ulysses all the [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► way [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► no okay anyone home movie Empire no okay [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► the closest I've gotten with any of [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► these I've started Ulysses them i did [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► Ricky doesn't give you all the way [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► through which was brutal and I get [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► partway through tristram shandy and I [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► keep thinking each time like how awesome [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► this book is and then again I'm dropping [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► never come back as you don't do this [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► Beowulf as a long one yeah true is it in [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► its middle middle was that in like a [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► translation or is it all that goofy [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► middle-middle talk that metal talk the [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► Middle English yeah I i keep thinking I [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► can finish Ulysses and I can I can I [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► feel like a dumbass [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► I feel like I i I'm like Johnny liberal [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► arts and I can't finish Ulysses I keep [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► trying keep reading things alright [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► you're not supposed to use its not its [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► here's my thing about all these now the [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► Warhol thing clearly that's a test for [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► douchebags [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► yeah because the thing about Ulysses [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► over when it was written it presumed [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► that people had an intimate familiarity [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► with the Bible Shakespeare and of the [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► great you know and and Wittgenstein and [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► the great works of man up to that point [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► right here [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► so in order to properly read and [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► understand that book you have to have [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► you have to have a complete liberal arts [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► education as understood in 1912 for and [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► none of us do [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► I mean I tried to accumulate that kind [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► of education i tried to acquire it on my [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► own [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► through years of diligent study and i [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► have i have an education that looks like [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► i mean i have a completely checkerboard [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► education so that none of the one of the [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► illusions none of the one of the you [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► know the the connective tissue that [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► makes that book a tremendous read for [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► someone [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► like who is completely vested in [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► literature run of that isn't available [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► to me it's just I I'm just glancing off [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► of it I'm like a pachinko ball going [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► down it's really all I get that [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► no I think I got that was that a [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► reference well without her I don't even [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► know what was that it was a reference to [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► job was that a reference to Napoleon I [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► don't understand and you you go through [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► and you just like a lot of it is just a [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► lot of it is just word game it's just [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► game I hate to admit this at this point [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► in my life but I've I've come to feel [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► that way about the wasteland and so I [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► mean I i actually there's a really good [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► class that i did not take my favorite [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► teachers tie at school which is called [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► literary substrate of the wasteland and [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► you do you know obviously read the [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► wasteland studying stuff but you also [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► read the bibliography like you you read [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► you know just us 10 the Grail myth book [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► you read you know you read every [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► shakespeare thing that this referenced [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► in that but the funny part is like the [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► weird part is like I like that better as [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► a piece of musicality with with the [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► funny little bits of language and stuff [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► in it and he does little crazy voices [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► and stuff in here and read it but the [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► more I learn about exactly what it was [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► that he was aiding all this little Greek [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► bit the more it just seemed kind of [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► cobbled again that sounds that sounds [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► awful because I just love it so much but [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► now I guess you're just you're just a [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► guy with a fake English accent showing [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► off sometimes you know I think a lot of [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► that stuff a lot of that literature as [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► science was really important at the time [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► and we live in a world now that is post [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► that stuff so that stuff had to happen [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► in order to free up the the mind free up [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► the cultural to the culture of of [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► literature so that it could produce a [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► you know it could produce don delillo or [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► whatever i'm not sure but but we we live [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► we live in the aftermath of it and so it [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► isn't strictly necessary that we go back [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► and and participate in the revolution [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► again we can just be happy that it [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► happened and go on reading detective [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► novels are stories that are interesting [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► or fun i'm not saying [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► unless they hate it or something i'm [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► still think it's a remarkable remarkable [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► thing but isn't it kind of funny that [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► like you get this and components on my [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► ass but you know you go through this [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► very structured great books kind of [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► Education everybody gets the same sort [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► of Western culture education that they [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► could have something like Ulysses makes [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► sense for the wasteland kind of makes [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► sense you'll even get the references you [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► know I'm starting back to say like you [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► know all that stuff means i guess but in [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► a weird way they become sort of an [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► indictment of the very education that [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► you've had [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► well the fingers that Ben colleges [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► append the words great books to all [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► kinds of curricula but no one has the [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► attention to truly have a great books [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► education anymore like no 1i i challenge [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► you to find me a PhD student in [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► literature that has read that has read [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► one-fifth of the books that a high [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► school graduate in 1870 had read you [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► know like that [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► there just isn't there isn't the reason [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► to [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► we don't need to have read all that [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► stuff and they the only reason they did [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► at the time was there wasn't anything [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► else to do so we have we have this all [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► like oh we're giving you a great books [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► education at the universities and [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► they're not you can take a film class [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► you know you can't take this any of the [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► 50 is all well and good but I wish we [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► had cable you know and you [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► we just have to accept even as educated [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► people who that there that we cannot [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► just as we cannot go back to a time [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► before you know when you know when women [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► couldn't have the vote as much as we [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► might want to [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► we also cannot go back to a time when [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► people were when when when the vast [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► majority of people shared the same 20 [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► books when everyone had read the same [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► any any educated person that read the [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► same 20 books we can't go back to that [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► you can't duplicate it and I feel sorry [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► for those people who are 20 years old as [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► I was who really think like that is [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► essential is necessary for me to go back [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► and read those 20 books and understand [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► in order to be a fully-fledged person [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► because you spend a lot of time for [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► beating your head up against a culture [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► that is that the the important parts of [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► the good parts of have been assimilated [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► into our culture enough that most people [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► you know those references go by and most [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► people don't even know what they are [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► that it's just it's just part of which i [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► think it's kind of a MacGuffin now I [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► mean in Texas to reference one of the [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► great works of the last hundred years [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► the karate kid I mean it's daniel son to [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► understand how do these moves with the [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► wax on wax off [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► he thinks this guy's just some dumb fuck [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► who is a gardener right but what he's [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► teaching him is this repetition that [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► ends up anything benefiting him in a way [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► he didn't want i think some of the great [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► book stuff i think people miss the point [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► when they think it's about reading a [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► bunch of white guys you know I I mean [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► I'm not saying that's good better and [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► different I mean if you do if you don't [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► read a lot of Lady authors you're really [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► gonna be missing out like if you don't [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► read to kill a mockingbird or whatever [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► like you're gonna you know these books [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► you should read but I think there's [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► something to be said for like whether or [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► not you like the gym equipment to just [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► keep going to the gym and thanksgiving [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► somebody to a way where they could have [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► a place where they could have an [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► intelligent conversation based on having [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► had to digest that much material is not [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► a bad idea you know III don't know what [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► could replace that I think it's I think [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► we get really way off track sometimes [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► with this whole like we don't value [TS]