Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hi John how are you hi Merlin [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► how's every little thing the way I'm [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► scratch that we start over [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► how's it going it's good why did you [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► scratch how's every little thing could [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► sounds like a lyric from a sixties [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► musical how's every little thing how [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► every little thing with you and I nada [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► jus you show tunes man i'll see being [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► shaped his men are really yeah my wife [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► constantia teens you know I came of age [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► in Seattle during the last great the [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► last great waning days of the true like [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► Renaissance of gay America when when you [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► came of age and the gay people still had [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► show tunes and drag and and Barbra [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► Streisand and all these things that that [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► they rallied around and sediment central [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► part that really meant something [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► it was a separate culture and now that's [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► all lost [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► no one cares about those things anymore [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► I don't think except for like 50 year [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► old former drag queens right i don't [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► think there's an ironic i don't see any [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► kind of hipster showtunes I happening [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► although now that we've set it yeah you [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► gotta get out it's not like it's not [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► like listening to soft sell or something [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► it's not something where they're sitting [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► around going to Hawaii NCAA this is but [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► there's a campus is certain campus that [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► I admire a certain campus if you are [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► using your penetrating vision to see the [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► campaigners the relative order to work [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► in the pink on a I demonstrating vision [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► I have an extremely penetrating vision [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► forum that is the way I a son you know [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► what let's talk about the Tea Party [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► alright well as disturbing know you're [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► seriously Iowa really whatever you're [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► about to talk about it on like a deal I [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► don't loathe you feel like particular [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► daughter of politics [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► it's that this is the problem you don't [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► get me started literally I want my [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► daughter [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► uh well look up really really just a [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► four-year-old daughter that that's what [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► you're gonna you're just very concerned [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► about the Santorum she's like these are [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► all results are very concerning to me [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► haha seems like its cues rather heavily [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► toward a very small group of people who [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► are really needy about being asked what [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► they think you know everybody stays [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► undecided because as soon as they become [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► decided nobody cares anymore you don't [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► spend a lot of time in Iowa it's a [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► fascinating state that because the [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► corner of the writers program or about [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► realize your tracks we know there are a [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► lot of like Iowa City you wouldn't [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► expect in the center of iowa iowa city [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► to be a progressive and beautiful little [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► College terrible thank you for asking [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► let me tell you a little story every [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► little thing about iowa's surprising [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► there's people everywhere in towns [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► you've never heard of well there's corn [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► is corn township corn district court [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► city corn corn corn writing program [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► sorry I thought little every little [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► thing i'm going to write that down [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► tell me tell me about sorry yeah you [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► what you're banned you're banned place [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► in Iowa a lot of Cedar Rapids is a very [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► interesting tonight in Iowa it's not [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► like it smells like the rapids that's a [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► real city so you're driving to cedar [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► rapids right which isn't on the way to [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► and Rabbi the kind of river [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► yeah there are Rapids there how would [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► you have cedar rapids unless unless you [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► add liquid trees [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► mmm to continue well anyway cedar rapids [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► i really wanted to go there just because [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► it's one of those towns that that isn't [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► on the way to anywhere it's not like the [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► the interstate doesn't go through there [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► you have to kind of make a little detour [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► and you get you driving to Cedar Rapids [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► and it's the entire town smells like [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► Captain Crunch cereal because they make [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► it there are they makes there's a [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► there's a there's a general mills cereal [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► close too close to a corn gotta stay [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► close to the corner yeah and the whole [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► town smells like crunch berries like I [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► obese i love that smells it was not so [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► why what's not to love [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► and I was like what you mean people live [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► in a town that's mostly contrarians all [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► year round [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► that should be a big theme in our [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► musical every little thing you get to [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► pick what kind of city you live in basic [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► happened and it should happen in cedar [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► rapids i met her in a town that smelled [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► like cheerios there are those are very [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► distinctive smell the whole town now [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► like when you go to busch gardens on if [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► you're into a bush gardens but it smells [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► intensely of hops because of the brewery [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► there and you know it first kind of [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► interesting but then it's really not [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► it's because really overbearing you [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► can't stop noticing you know it's like [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► living with a smoker [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► do you like eventually stopped noticing [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► the crunch do you think I know you've [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► been sleeping have even have been having [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► something I haven't slept in and I can't [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► believe I can't believe that you could [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► become so cynical you could become so in [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► newer to the smell of contraries that [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► you would ever not wake up and think oh [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► right it's so much a part of the culture [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► how could you ever stop really enjoying [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► that on a day-to-day basis right which [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► is why do you go to see so many local [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► bands [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► that's right the local bands are well I [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► used to the young people what they're [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► doing with music the new people the [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► beards the longer beards i'm not i'm [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► afraid that young people aren't doing [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► anything new with music is that is that [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► her radical to say up not only is that [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► true but yes I don't want to interrupt [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► you but I have a house I have something [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► on that but yes I i totally agree [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► I yeah I don't I mean I do go see young [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► bears all the time [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► Cassie question real quick before we [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► lose it how the reception was the [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► reception for a long winter show like in [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► cedar rapids we've never played cedar [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► rapids we we do quite well I'm sorry [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► that I wasn't there wasn't one of your [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► Charles Kuralt adventures we went on a [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► place that's right i was in a i was in a [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► camper with a with my faithful dog [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► Charlie and we're traveling her America [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► old Charlie it in the late fifties early [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► sixties and stealing panties all along [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► the way crunch berries they have [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► invented them yet and this is that smell [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► so great [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► no iowa city we do quite well in Canada [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► because iowa city is a place of [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► discernment and just look at the name [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► like creativity going on my whole city [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► that's right they get they get floods [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► they get tornadoes it's fascinating you [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► know I found from we did we discussed [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► Pittsburgh last week and it didn't cause [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► me to be thinking about Pittsburgh all [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► week [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► another great city there are a lot of [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► great cities in America it's a hell of [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► it it's a hell of a place [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► it really is yeah I never been to Iowa [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► town or Iowa Burke but I've always want [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► to go to Iowa City haha I i avoid making [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► or reading end of your lists partly [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► because I recall [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► well there's nothing bad about them and [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► interact cancer [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► well they're kind of cancer there's the [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► top ten carcinomas according to Rolling [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► Stone but you know I mean for me and [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► this is a blog things all it'll be short [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► but i think a lot of them like so many [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► ways God knows blogs or blog things are [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► typically short [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► hmm the headlines sometimes longer than [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► the post but you know me like I you know [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► you know me but I you know in our [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► interview we did many years ago you [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► talked about how the whole idea and [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► blogging is that have this little thing [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► that's the size of a can of tuna and [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► then you just surrounded with ads I [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► think today [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► like so many of the lists that we find [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► on the global Internet [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► I think they're largely about affiliate [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► links i think it's about linking amazon [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► and making five percent off what people [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► buy think it's what they do it you you [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► go you go and look it's either going to [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► be a list that's made into multiple [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► pages you have to click on this boring [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► so we'll be quick or you see it's a [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► whole bunch of the 500 top albums of the [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► year you will almost never see one of [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► those lists that doesn't have links to [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► somewhere where people make money and [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► that that's not that removes all [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► credibility but you know if the impetus [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► for what you decide to write it is based [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► on getting people to buy something then [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► you're really writing ad copy right [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► rather than producing pros [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► oh my god you have opened up a can of [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► worms that appeared to be a can of tuna [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► surrounded by ads food but which I'm [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► sorry which I write down for that people [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► are can of tuna / worms ads okay i don't [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► know i don't know what shorthand you use [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► on your I think we can't let the circle [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► back to this because I think we may have [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► found a hot spot and I think to be [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► honest with you that relates to the [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► point i was going to make which is that [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► I accidentally looked at a couple list [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► medalists of like what people thought of [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► as the best downs and i downloaded i [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► bought a couple on the itunes store [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► actually did hi there [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► well the tomb I got that I like okay [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► a well one of them was this band called [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► what is it a contingency plan [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► Intercontinental history [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► I don't know what they're called both of [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► those are great band names contingency [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► plan that's opening for intercontinental [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► history that Travis Morrison thing but [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► they were there good but I'm a crack guy [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► the other day on the Twitter about this [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► i mean so much [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► farewell continental it was one band any [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► other was being called yuck and and I [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► can already guess what you i can already [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► guess what you think about yoga if [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► you've ever heard them fine [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► farewell coming out like its patent [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► thing where and if you saw this but you [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► know how CDs and music in general have [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► gotten really really really loud [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► how does not a lot of dynamic range [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► anymore yeah that's like yeah that's one [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► of the the pet peeves of all them people [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► I work with [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► well not just the audio files but [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► certainly like recording engineers the [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► people who are recording engineers and [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► mastering engineers the people who are [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► responsible [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► yeah for me actually the master guys [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► alright the master is our the way to do [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► they all hate it they despise it you pop [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► album it looks like a rectangle if you [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► have it the way I more like this is [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► terrible but then they do it because [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► it's what people want [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► well yeah and if somebody puts it in and [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► it's not with the Nuremberg defense huh [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► I was just following waveforms right [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► yeah it's a I you know I don't [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► personally hate the Jews it's just what [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► people want right well you know you [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► gotta you gotta vote with your III one [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► of these I don't know it's pretty good [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► it's good pop songs but I had a crack [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► about this on Twitter yesterday on for [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► two days ago whatever but it was it's so [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► I mean I just can't believe how much pop [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► music you can actually hear the pitch [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► correction on [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► I don't know really well it's heavily we [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► don't talk about where they'll put it [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► right on maybe right on the key where [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► it's it really there's not even like [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► glissandos yes it sounds almost like [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► shares song you know believe right or [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► you there [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► it's it but it's that and combined with [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► an extraordinary amount i don't know [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► it's gated a huge amount of compression [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► and so that everybody sounds like their [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► voices exploding and perfect pitch all [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► the time and but this whole record it's [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► like every every instrument is too loud [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► and it's it for people who want to [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► listen to a certain kind of like really [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► loud in your headphones running around [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► music but like it's weird it doesn't [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► sound natural [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► it's you know what I mean it's so I [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► don't say overproduced so heavily [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► produced so good it's a good record like [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► it's fun i can see what people like it's [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► very poppy but I be you can dance to it [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► I I finance that probably dance I like a [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► beat but did you ever dance like no [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► one's watching something I do i do this [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► to increase joy division dance sometimes [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► so yeah [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► oh I just had a mental picture of you [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► doing that he and Kurdistan sort of AI [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► video of it that's the thing that the [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► thing that worries me [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► alright doesn't worry me it's just a it [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► fills my mind with with the ones and [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► zeroes instead of what should be filling [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► my mind which is sleep or or good [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► tidings but it fills my mind that this [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► this question bar on the pop music side [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► you know i i've always been a proponent [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► of the idea that all this stuff is just [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► the technology it's all in a way of [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► making music and people used to do you [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► remember the days when people with [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► Yammer on about gated snares and too [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► much reverb if you'll additionally [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► called that one of the things we're not [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► allowed to talk about yeah and it's one [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► of those things where it's just like you [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► know what it's just a technology it's [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► just it it's just a sound and no untrue [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► John there are no bad sounds well wait [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► but but but I I feel like pop music is [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► becoming I mean that the the generation [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► that we came from which was like embrace [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► the flaw celebrate the flaw celebrate [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► the human nervous that the kids now just [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► are like boring you know we can we can [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► make it perfect and it takes nothing to [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► do we just click click are our little [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► box and and all the waveforms are [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► straight lines and and instant [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► perfection but at the same time those [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► same kids are the compulsively unedited [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► bloggers right i mean that's that same [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► generation are the are the ones who are [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► blogging [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► or writing certainly tweeting with no [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► sense of punctuation no sense of [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► complete complete thought [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► no sense that once you've droned on for [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► five thousand words maybe you should go [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► read it one time and cut-out 2500 of [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► those words to make your thing [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► tighter to make your thing better so on [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► the one hand the culture is speeding [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► headlong into this like over sanitized [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► like oh like lack of lack of any sign of [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► human hands ever being late on the thing [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► just like robot music whoo [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► and on the other hand like the the [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► written culture it is this is this world [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► of people just like it's just it's just [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► spew culture right where there's no [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► there's they haven't done and done the [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► minimum amount of editing to make it [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► even seemed human so it's inhumane in [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► the other way where it's a it's so rude [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► and so scatological it's not even yeah [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► I'm trying event an analogy I I don't [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► completely disagree if I'd love to see [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► anybody write a five thousand word post [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► i don't think that happens anymore if I [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► got all the time u u9 like I'm not [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► reflected in all not a professional blog [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► that's the problem [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► what's a professional blog called Pro [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► blogging and go go anywhere where [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► somebody posts like this is so boring [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► that's 50 times a day when I just talked [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► about the internet on all right sorry [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► you're right you're right but I don't [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► know but not here think of it this way I [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► I kind of lament well as what's weird [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► itunes kinda brought this back but I [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► kind of lament the loss of the single as [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► an art form like either so many bands i [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► like that I the move comes to mind but [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► there are so many bands that or the [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► beatles like a lot of the beatles best [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► stuff never appeared on a proper english [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► album they got glommed together for some [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► American abortions but the there are no [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► yeah what I mean like yesterday and [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► today or whatever is really just a [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► collection of singles in Americans don't [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► deserve good things well and then what's [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► cool is when they put out the proper UK [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► version on CD then they made past [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► masters 12 which was fantastic but their [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► singles collection [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► you didn't like that you know are you [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► kidding i loved it but but we're talking [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► about the Beatles [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► well here's the thing we should reserve [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► that for our podcast and imagine Harlan [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► talk about the big notes i got our hands [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► on a card every week John Paul McCartney [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► the piers think like yesterday we will [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► listen into the cock rock station and [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► they played over the hills and far away [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► which i think is close to the point [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► where legs up on became less interesting [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► but they were still interesting and it's [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► a great song it was a physical graffiti [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► I think so [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► no it's good it's a good song but what's [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► funny is it's got dynamic range to it [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► like it's loud and quiet and at the end [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► i don't know if it isn't making armpit [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► might be electric piano but John Paul [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► Jones plays this like little quiet bit [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► at the end it fades out and then it [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► fades back in and the noise of our [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► kitchen I was like all this is the song [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► went off even 500 hundred times I was [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► like and then it comes back in like you [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► would never hear that today you would [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► never hear something like an errand was [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► the Beatles song that's got the long [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► fade out in the feedback in was not on [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► the walrus or strawberry fields anyone [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► know some get some [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► she's so heavy no it's not no it's not [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► another one another one of the this [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► anyway and then barreled down arrow now [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► while while while while around dude [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► skelter yeah yeah maybe you can do that [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► today because people would flip the [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► channel right and that's that's why I [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► think this way there are the fleet foxes [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► my to it because they're artists i never [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► heard the fleet foxes and it's just [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► these names are just crazy making me [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► anyway if I never got back to you [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► because you're important in this [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► conversation but think of it this way [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► with the whole blog racket [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► the thing is if you want to make any [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► money on a blog you have to post a lot [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► and often and get people to click [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► through and up and so the whole nature [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► of that is to produce these things that [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► aren't even singles which are producing [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► is the equivalent of look at first draft [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► of a jingle and money jingle based on [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► somebody else's song and you might bury [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► the fact that somebody else's long in a [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► link about you know after the jump as [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► they say or whatever like you know and [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► as the way i can read this stuff anymore [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► because it really it really has become [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► such a [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► let's not become such a factory of [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► unpalatable confections like to tell me [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► when I tell me how you how you do with [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► this because because your life I don't [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► have a blog imports everybody open this [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► but you are you are so internet you're [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► so wrapped up in the internet yeah [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► and yet II feel these moments i'm [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► certainly feeling right now where you [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► don't have to step back from the [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► internet very far at all to feel like uh [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► well this could consume my every waking [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► moment or maybe it's absolutely [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► meaningless like maybe none of this [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► matters at all and I I can't think of [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► I can't think of a precedent in human [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► life where there was something like this [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► that could be so all-encompassing and [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► yet potentially and then this is the [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► thing I think the jury's still out [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► potentially be like me really add up to [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► bacchus yeah but I mean the problem [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► there is that god this is so tedious the [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► problem there is that it's the internet [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► is not the problem that is like that's [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► not like that's kind of like like not [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► liking books or not liking music well I [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► agree with that in the medium it says [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► it's just a medium except it isn't just [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► a medium that books are not a thing that [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► you sit and used to talk to your friends [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► and keep in touch with your grandmother [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► and store all your photos and I mean oh [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► you're saying it's it's not taking on [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► the role of such a broader thing its it [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► people are putting their entire lives [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► nothing and spending their entire lives [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► on the thing I i don't know i'm just i'm [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► going through a really weird phase right [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► now where I'm feeling like because you [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► argue with people you gotta quit arguing [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► with you oh no you didn't argue with [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► people happy sleep have turkey one of [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► those things feel am I answer i'm so mad [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► right now I want to hear about this I [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► don't want to finish one thought that [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► hopefully will bring this together and [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► in some ways which is this is this is [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► what it means to be old what it means to [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► be old is that when you hear some band [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► and you go as I said a hundred times [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► oh they're pretty good well what that [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► really reminds me of his joy division [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► and then I go listen Unknown Pleasures I [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► i listen to this other man at all [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► really cool that's like a [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► fifth-generation Buzzcocks thing and [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► that makes you want to go listen to what [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► singles going steady or whatever and so [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► on and so on this makes you want to go [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► listen inevitably IM back with the same [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► 35 albums like that like Pixies I always [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► end up so often going this just makes [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► you want to listen to come on pilgrim [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► sure our or you know or whatever the [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► kids don't have those that access to the [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► source material things change people [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► always talk about the kids I don't know [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► boy so what I'm saying is with the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► internet and as you call it for me [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► that's about finding trusted sources [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► that you like and twitter is a great [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► example is that you don't have to see [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► well before they added that all the [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► bullshit with the promoted stuff you [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► don't have to say anything on twitter [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► you don't want to see unless you choose [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► to see it but I don't talk about so I'm [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► talking about zooming out a lot further [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► than that to a place where where the [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► question of what makes a valuable life [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► is like did you chop some wood today you [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► know yeah you can keep you can either [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► leave you literally literally do not [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► want to get me started on this because I [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► you know but I I this is what you do for [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► a living you that you don't have [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► anything to drink I'm a dick about that [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► point professionally that's kind of what [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► i do this that's why come here talk [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► about busman's holiday this is but I'm [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► karaoke government but you're right [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► you're right again I'd be remiss not [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► somebody who is this is right with two [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► points i went ahead and i did put a lot [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► of threads together here John using an [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► extraordinary amount of pitch correction [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► and compression I did record a version [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► of my karaoke jam so you can listen to [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► kenny rogers she believes angry and did [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► you use pitch correction and little bit [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► yeah I deliberately over-processed it to [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► make the point but it says she believes [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► in me by Kenny Rogers the other thing [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► depend on this banyak i love it it's [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► great but here's what's funny about that [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► is you listen to the instant the first [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► song comes on it gives me total would [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► because it sounds exactly like teenage [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► fanclub being covered by dinosaur like a [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► dinosaur sound with it like a teenage [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► like everything flows teenage fanclub [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► some you start listening to it and then [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► it sounds a little bit like Sonic Youth [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► it sounds a little bit like at the later [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► teenage fanclub know what's funny about [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► that was funny about that is each one of [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► those bands sounds like other bands [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► before them my teenage fanclub already [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► sounded a lot like sonic youth and [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► dinosaur so it's weird to me that like [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► you talk about recursion [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► I don't know if I'm gonna listen to this [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► album for six months I don't know if six [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► months from now still be listening this [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► because it is like a lot like a [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► highlights reel of the nineties for me [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► the late eighties and early nineties [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► which is my favorite period in music I [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► have to say when I mean that in the [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► mid-sixties but anyway the point being [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► like that's that's the weird thing [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► and this brings me round james joyce [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► which we should come back to but um [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► thats all i want to say about that now i [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► want to hear about what you're angry [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► I'm always interested in what's burning [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► you up how i had another note here so do [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► you think you're like Charles Kuralt in [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► bristol and to be honest I'm [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► overthinking [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► hmm i'll come back to that what are you [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► angry about John what so let's be in [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► your bonnet 00 i I'm I'm i think i'm [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► just angry at that at the at one of said [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► the fact that I feel like I I'm a [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► non-starter [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► now i I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not making [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► the transition I'm not I'm not I'm not [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► changing gears to get with the times I [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► feel like I am stick-in-the-mud not a [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► stick-in-the-mud exactly not exactly an [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► old fogey [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► no no I feel like a there there's a [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► frustrated contrarian yeah that's it [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► frustrated contrary and i feel like i [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► have been counter you know that the the [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► mistake you make when you see the [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► problem in everything is to is to is to [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► take solace in the in the contrary and [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► that is not a position where you're [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► you're you're making anything it's not [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► an active place [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► yes at each tip it's a passive place [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► it's a it's what teenagers do its what [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► pundits do its what if there's it's a [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► respectable place in modern life you [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► know people people love the guy that [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► sits on the side and and conventions [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► some people some people turn that into [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► art well can look at the Kings look at [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► the kinks think about think about the [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► the classic kinks arc starting [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► especially with something else going [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► through Muswell Hill billies like each [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► one of those records is in some ways a [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► get ready for two saat where it's a a [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► pastoral landscape Ian that's not make [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► it sound like penis you say that's Greek [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► gotta pae in it [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► I am trip tribute am pain am 22 to an [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► old British pastoral life that's what [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► village green Preservation Society [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► fucking means so they I'm just saying [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► and that guy was crazy to like you so [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► you could you could do your emerald city [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► preservation society because I need you [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► know what he had he had a brother that [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► he hated him and that he needed you know [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► he had a brother that he was that he [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► made all that music to really probably [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► just a board is going to provoke it just [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► to make his brother Matt like Oh check [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► it out i wrote another five great songs [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► today younger suckier I think paige i [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► think it was the tommy shaw of the Kings [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► well see him that or Tommy Shaw I [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► thought you were talking about Tommy [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► Stinson I think he's the tommy stinson [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► of the kinks [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► oh the one who keeps a rock and [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► absolutely absolutely get you know [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► that's good but I was a seat i'm shocked [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► as he wanted like Tommy Smith's and you [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► know it could be John do you think [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► everybody named Tommy the band wants to [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► rock more than their people are rockin M [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► or some of the other time is that's all [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► I got [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► well there's Tommy mm-hmm [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► I don't know hmm looks like ladies [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► harmony that's what makes the song [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► things I i think that it i think you for [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► a curmudgeon if a curmudgeon does not [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► have a nemesis then the world becomes [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► the convergence nemesis whereas if the [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► curmudgeon has a nemesis he can he can [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► focus all that energy on a on a solitary [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► point right and then and then the the [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► kind of the smoke clears that he can [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► look at the rest of the world with a [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► little bit more of a if not rosy then at [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► least like open-minded but some kind of [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► sense that like oh I everything I hate [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► IRA positive in this in my asshole [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► little brother or you know how unique [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► you know Jeannie antithesis need a smart [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► heatsink eating somewhere you need [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► somebody who's a worthy a worthy [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► opponent for you that can be your what [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► like your uh which called United [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► whipping boy but like that you know [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► Shirley Jackson lottery type situation [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► yeah but here's the problem but [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► and these days you get into an argument [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► with anybody you can argue with [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► everybody John and what do you get into [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► an argument everybody but you get into [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► an argument with somebody let's say for [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► instance and then a lot of it happens on [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► texting now which I know is a terrible [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► way to conduct an argument but that's it [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► you're not talking about Twitter you're [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► talking about your friends [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► oh yeah thanks to my friends and argued [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► with them because you're not talking [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► about just a random dude who like one [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► song your band-aid followed you and now [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► hates you for talking about Nazis no no [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► i'm talking about the people that occupy [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► my my daily life for your friends and I [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► get into arguments with because they are [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► idiots a lot of times and I'm and I'm [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► here to straighten them out and then we [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► get into a text argument and here's what [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► people do these days they send three or [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► four like whiny bitchy text back and [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► forth and then they go okay you know [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► what that's it I'm done you know what [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► you're talking about [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► wer wer were having an argument and [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► they're like no I'm done kinda wish i [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► could never these people are done will [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► be done or not done this isn't it this [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► isn't like this isn't a pop quiz that [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► you're just like over grabbing an [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► argument like reengage but nobody wants [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► to engage nobody wants to engage in in [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► that in a discourse that is anything [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► other than then constantly reassuring [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► constantly validating right you know [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► their their conversations with other [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► people and the world they everybody [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► structuring their world now so that the [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► news they get and the the texts that [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► they get from their friends are always [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► like you're the best two thumbs up on my [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► god let's get this back to 22 core [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► points which is the bad words and I [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► don't have beat this to death but the [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► fact that you're not gonna be able to [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► help them if they're just looking for [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► you to console them what you have to [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► offer than the penetration of your help [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► in a lot of ways it is to sports them to [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► stay with it maybe maybe to look up all [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► night texting to receive it [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► here's the problem i millions may not go [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► to bed we're not done I am really i'm up [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► a creek right now because I'm realizing [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► that their refusal to stay with it is [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► not only they are not only missing out [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► on the opportunity to have me straighten [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► them out but I'm feeling [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► I'm feeling the loneliness I'm feeling [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► the estrangement from from tribe from [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► having my primary way of engaging with [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► other people to be or you know [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► traditionally being like hey that thing [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► you just did was fucked up and here's [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► why and that's my primary way of of of [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► uh of talking to people and nobody wants [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► to hear any more bodies like out that's [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► united you said too much and then so I'm [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► i like I doors are closing all around me [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► nobody wants to be my friend anymore [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► now I find that very hard to believe it [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► won't be or at least I can't continue i [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► can't i can't maintain up a thread of [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► conversation that goes through the five [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► stages of conversate of argumentative [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► conversation [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► cool but George Ross thing which are you [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► know like first login bargaining you you [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► start off with a premise that you both [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► agree on the initial premise then you [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► find the thing that you that you [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► disagree about her when you inflate the [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► significance of your disagreement until [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► you really have an all-out war about [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► something and then you resort to ad [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► hominem attacks and then you realize [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► that you're fighting over something that [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► doesn't matter to either one of you and [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► you apologizing have rough sex you know [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► essentially you apologize and take the [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► other one out for coffee or whatever [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► she'll cover whatever or have some rough [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► sex but now you get up to you you start [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► you get up to the ad hominem attacks a [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► place which is the place I don't like to [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► go i'm not an ad hominem attacker [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► that's why I only mention that i only [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► mention that plateau because that's [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► where people that's where that's where [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► most you just worry that so many so many [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► of these cocksuckers are out there [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► working on at hominem attacks they start [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► they start with some ad hominem attacks [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► at me and all I can do is reply in kind [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► John I don't like i'm done i've done i [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► don't want to keep your head up [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► I don't like to give you notes but kind [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► just make one I do not want to become [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► part of the problem [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► I'm begging for notes right now is there [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► a chance the text messages are an [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► imperfect medium for the level of [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► discourse that you're looking for [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► the thing about one thing about text [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► messaging that wasn't really an answer [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► here's the problem favorite actors [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► thinking about sex myths and I'm great [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► at it [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► I am great at carrying on an argument [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► via text messaging and it's just that [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► other people can't keep up and it's so [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► infuriating [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► well you know John I i'll drop some [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► serious science on somebody in a text [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► message him and all they read is that I [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► said something about their mom my no no [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► I said something about your mommy [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► amazon resort to the admin stock up on [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► you know what you need i I don't want to [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► give you a note here but you need you [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► need you need fucking hate when people [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► talk about this movie you need your own [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► version of fight club you need to meet [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► with other assholes who in [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► boo-hoo-hoo-hoo can I do [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► well i don't know i mean apparently the [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► guy was faked the whole time [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► spoiler alert but here's the thing you [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► need if you here's the thing you are [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► essentially saying that people are [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► arguing wrong right now and so you need [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► to find somebody who agrees that you're [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► incredibly broken way of communicating [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► with people is not only acceptable but I [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► really the kind of thing that could be [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► very relaxing [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► so I i saw eventually a somnambulist [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► when you're done when you both literally [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► both of your batteries run out your [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► phones have died you can finally go to [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► sleep for a couple hours before the [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► elegance movies start this is what I'm [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► saying to you John is you need to seek [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► out somebody in an underground culture [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► I'm not saying go to the GoSee fleet [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► foxes or something they even underground [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► still not really here you're saying that [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► it's some kind of dominatrix culture [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► we're not at all not at all it's closer [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► to that stupid fight club thing you need [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► to meet with a lot of broken people who [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► buy things from ikea and then like to [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► hit each other in a basement [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► you need to find somebody who likes the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► same thing that you do and and in time [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► in the fullness of time John I think you [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► need if I may say i'm not giving you a [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► note here i'm giving you anything that [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► you need to narrow your focus on 21 [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► nemesis not somebody you hate somebody [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► you grudgingly respect who you can text [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► with all night so that you can have [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► friends again [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► thought so there there are so many of [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► those are there a lot of people that i [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► grudgingly respect but the problem with [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► the problem with that is that there's [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► always this shit friction will know [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► hierarchies are so tenuous now like back [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► in the old days if if we lived in if [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► let's say we lived in cedar falls [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► Cedar Rapids let's say we lived in cedar [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► rapids in 1900 right at there would be [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► out there there's a limited number of [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► people in the town [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► nobody's moving anywhere you pick your [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► nemesis you pick your friends eat you [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► can you figure out what the hierarchy of [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► the unit of of the group is everybody's [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► got their everybody's on their maslow [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► trip or whatever and then you then you [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► hash it out on a daily basis but now [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► these hierarchies are all spread across [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► the internet so that if you engage with [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► somebody and they don't like your tone [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► or they don't like your they don't like [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► the cut of your jib or whatever they [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► just they don't have to turn their back [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► on you they just turn their focus three [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► degrees away from you and there are [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► 10,000 other people who are buying for [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► their attention you know what I mean [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► this is the problem with with [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► particularly when you become more of a [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► public person yourself then you're in a [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► year in a realm where you're talking to [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► other public people and you all have [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► y'all have only to turn your attention [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► one or two degrees in any direction and [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► a whole new world opens up so nobody has [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► the nobody has the the skin in the game [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► enough to sit and really engage with [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► somebody who is who is counter them you [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► know what I mean I do [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► nobody wants to sit and have somebody [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► make points at their expense for a [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► prolonged period of time which is what [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► to having an argument with me is like [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► just sitting across from me why [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► numerically well what where I enumerate [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► all the reasons that they are flawed and [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► they have to just accept it if they have [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► a brain in their head [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► nobody wants to do that they just turned [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► their attention three degrees there are [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► 10,000 other people on Twitter who are [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► there telling them that they're great [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► and that they love their stuff and that [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► there they can't wait for their new blog [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► post or their new book or whatever and [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► and something is lost i'm feeling the [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► loss [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► nobody's talking to me that way anymore [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► I mean even a few years ago you would [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► read reviews of your band that were some [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► of them still pretty scathing I mean [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► obviously I haven't put [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► the record in years but you get you [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► hardly even see intelligent criticism [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► intelligent negative criticism anymore [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► on the internet it's just sand stuff or [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► its or it's a it's like real base-level [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► takedown stuff but i but i'm not talking [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► about the internet now I'm talking about [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► my relationships with people in my own [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► town did this you did this used to work [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► for you i mean III just can't get away [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► from the problem with the texting III my [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► yellow I'll set that aside if you want i [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► cannot think of a worse way short shorts [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► like sending chess moves through the [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► mail i cannot think of a worse way to [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► try and have an intelligent conversation [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► with one of the problems might be who [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► that I have a mental illness no no let's [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► let's really set that aside cause i [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► really liked the show up let me you know [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► i don't i bergen goes you know what [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► asshole you're actually made of wood [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► I'm I'm trying he needs them for the act [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► I'm trying to say to myself don't carry [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► on arguments with people via text [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► messaging but then I do it anyway all [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► just there's a part of me that that that [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► likes to take relationships up to the [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► edge to see what they're made them i [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► think i think that's starting to become [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► clear [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► mhm and that isn't paying off for me [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► right now [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► yeah I true i just keep all these people [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► an ad that I I know or in familiar with [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► that you're having these texts arguments [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► with some of them yes some of them you [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► know in fact most of you probably know [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► not familiar with in someone you're [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► familiar with them whoo-hoo-hoo i texted [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► someone in california the other day [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► notnot the other day last night i texted [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► a friend in California and high [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► considered provoking an argument with [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► them just to see what happened and then [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► at the last minute I realized I was too [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► tired [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► m and so I just kept it at the level of [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► I kept our text exchange at the level of [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► fun banter exhaustion is really all that [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► keeps you civil that that knot or or an [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► argument with yourself [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► about about that you refuse to listen to [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► about what you could be doing wrong with [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► this process you've got a lot of John [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► this is a multi layer cake if I'm [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► missing my friend [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► it really is a you like cake here's what [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► I'm terrified of I am terrified of [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► niceness I do not want to become nice i [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► do not want to get indoctrinated into a [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► world where niceness is the currency and [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► yet i dont i I've never wanted to be [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► intentionally rude or mean not at all so [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► at and I right now I'm stuck in this [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► polarized the the poll from this from [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► the darkside to just you know to just [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► start to get bitter and mean and angry [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► for its own sake I I don't obviously I [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► don't want to go that direction but but [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► everything is so nice now everyone on [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► the other side is so cotton candy pink [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► poofy LA and I just can't relate to that [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► way of talking to each other not not if [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► not anybody that I care about you so I [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► don't know what to do I don't want to [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► become very thought of volunteering [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► somewhere i think if you were to go to a [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► local home for the agent for example [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► maybe a hospice are old people smell bad [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► exactly [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► it gives you all the more ammunition and [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► here's the thing they can't leave these [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► are people who think they're let me just [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► give you okay so hey might be honest I [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► well here's the thing they do you know [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► old man you think you know that's right [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► keep going up [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► here's the thing you know you're korea [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► korea that's that's your feather in your [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► come out of police action that was no [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► police action [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► well there's two things I like about [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► this John and the the United like either [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► of them here's the first one is they [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► don't text index is good this takes you [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► out of your comfort zone or discomfort [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► zone increasingly you're going to get in [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► there with people who literally smell [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► like pee and are very close to death [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► they're not going to be there not this [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► is going to force you into a new medium [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► now what you may or may not like I don't [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► know if this is going to make them [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► worthy adversary [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► I'm just saying you might find an [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► emphasis in a really deeply crippled man [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► with dementia partly because he can't [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► leave [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► he can't he can't not text you back hehe [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► literally is in a bed and mobile [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► sure and you know what he might be [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► spunky you can't get rid of the ruling [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► ideas it back in the sixties he hasn't [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► learned a new things since the johnson [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► administration fee for the waning days [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► you probably hated you before you were [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► born [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► Wow probably hate your dad think oh I [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► like that I like the sound of this [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► well I to start i think if i want to go [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► somewhere [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► yeah I do feel like there's room in my [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► life for selflessness I who mother's [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► room in all of our lives for selfless I [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► don't have a further enough place to set [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► that aside i'm going to write [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► selflessness [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► well let's know it would it would it [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► would help i think getting getting out [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► of your home to argue with people in a [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► different environment is not a bad start [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► you know if you were to go somewhere you [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► know I think part of it is your phone [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► John maybe you should get rid of your [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► phone and you thought about that i have [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► thought about it I maybe I should get [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► rid of money can change your texting [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► plan [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► oh you just make me so mad at AT&T also [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► other at them brother that is a can of [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► what was it worms no you know what i [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► have i have unlimited texting [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► grandfathered in from back when they [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► offered that I fucked up in last line [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► and they want they're always trying to [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► get me to do some new things so I lose [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► my unlimited texting [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► I but I i bought a service from them i [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► added something to my bill and so I lost [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► my grandfather house afrika high-quality [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► services and that's that's the thing [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► they want to do that they want to sucker [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► you every time this I learned this from [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► verizon when I was on them back in the [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► old days [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► who where you know they're like hey take [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► advantage of this great opportunity were [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► offering you I was like that's amazing [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► ok and they said ah but you no longer [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► have free weekends nights and friends [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► because you change your plan and so now [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► you're paying for all these things that [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► you used to this is some old plan you [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► know which it would be a verse to [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► hearing another suggestion [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► yeah no no I I wouldn't be averse okay i [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► think you'll like it because it involves [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► your phone work what if you call [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► companies that made products you don't [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► use and had a beef with them and [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► customer service just to get the ball [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► rolling [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► you know this is the thing that my [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► sister does to great effect love your [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► sister i wish i would have followed her [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► for eight months in college she loves [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► this is so cute i swear to you if you if [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► you have a problem with customer service [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► you can call my sister and ask her to [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► deal with it and she will happily [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► embrace your customer service from [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► Pete's like that we stuck on action line [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► is if you ever had was like on the local [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► news station if you ever need anything [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► done and that's the rule your sister [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► Phyllis here is she is more than happy [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► to wait that thing out and wear him down [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► oh yeah and and and she'll get a [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► customer service person online [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► uh-oh on the phone and you're only [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► hearing one side of the conversation and [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► you're thinking oh my god this person's [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► gonna hang up on her [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► my sister is bab solutely scorched-earth [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► right i mean she's just reading this [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► person the riot act with the biggest [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► smile on her face just having the time [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► of her life and a half an hour later I [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► swear to you the customer service person [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► is giving my sister her home number [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► they're making plans to go snowboarding [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► she has given my sister everything plus [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► that she asked for [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► I mean she wins every time I saw her do [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► this one time we were on a train in the [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► former czechoslovakia but in a Slovakian [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► portion we're in Slovakia and these [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► border guards get on the train so we're [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► just passing through slovakia where we [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► were it was a night train these border [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► guards get on the train and this is [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► early days they were very they were [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► still very like the Warsaw Pact stress [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► out stripes and they're coming through [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► the car and they're checking everybody's [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► visa and they get to our cabin and [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► they're like passports we have our [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► passports were fast asleep you know and [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► they're like your pet your your visas [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► are invalid you're gonna have to get off [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► the train at the next stop [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► and it's three o'clock in the morning [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► and we pull into this station and the [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► stations closed it's like some little [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► teeny village and my sister says we're [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► not getting off this train [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► you know I'm packing my bag i can fuck [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► are we going to do and she's like we're [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► not getting off this train and these [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► guys with machine guns are like no you [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► get off that you have to get off the [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► train you know they don't speak any [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► English [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► and she gets right up in their faces in [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► the in the you know in the hallway of [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► the sleeping car and she's like we're [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► not fucking getting off this train fuck [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► you [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► em and they're like you know it's [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► incredibly fierce stone-faced like Red [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► Army soldier types and you watch these [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► guys absolutely start to quiver in fear [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► as this blonde girl stands on their boot [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► that bhutto's gets right up in their [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► face and then she's like we're Americans [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► we're gonna call it a fucking air strike [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► on you if you if you if you been an [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► eyelash at me right now we are going on [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► to Prague we are going to take this up [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► with that you with your boss at the [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► Embassy we're gonna you know bluck [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► center with my bag and her bag like no [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► no it's ok it's alright [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► oh I'm fine to get off here and she's [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► like you're not moving and you're not [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► moving and the train cars full of people [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► you know gypsies piling into one girl go [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► off on these army guys and then an [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► officer comes and he speaks a little [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► english and she's in his face and pretty [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► soon I swear to you she makes this whole [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► thing like the guards are laughing she's [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► like poking them she's got nicknames [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► forum and you know that pretty soon [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► everybody on the train car is singing a [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► song together and I'm just stand there [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► like I don't know how she does it I do [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► not I do not understand it i watch it [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► happen right in front of me and I don't [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► know where she how she makes the turn [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► but suddenly everybody's not only like [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► how she does it because anybody can do [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► it but like how did she make it work [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► well it makes it work it and and the [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► train keeps moving and we end up with [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► like somebody comes in stamps our [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► passports and it's just like I don't [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► know how this I didn't even know there [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► was somebody on the train that could do [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► that when your north face experience is [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► north face right with the bag problem [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► when that end it was there any seeing [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► the songs [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► Oh No everybody was furious humiliated [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► and furious really really was to get you [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► out of there get the led out of the way [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► but they want to because i was on the [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► phone with corporate headquarters people [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► were telling me up and down your editor [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► the New York Times just couldn't [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► couldn't happen you know when I left [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► there was no like at pat on the back and [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► handshakes I you know I grab my booty [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► and and I I mean I definitely started [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► out the front door [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► triumph full your hair and your sister [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► never has to resort to just like a [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► google me [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► no no sense that it's really i would [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► love to have somebody like that in my [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► life every day but what do you learn [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► from that John is incredibly gifted I [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► don't know what it is that I don't and [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► there are you see people like it in the [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► world and the 10-minute the thing is the [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► 10 minutes where she is right up in [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► their face is so excruciating even to [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► witness huh that you have to be prepared [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► to go all the way I think to come out [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► the other side and have everybody [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► befriends the the release of tension [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► when she when she smiles and goes right [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► buddy a like the release of tension is [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► so great at that moment that everybody's [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► just like oh my god I marry me so it is [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► that and with me it's I never I you know [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► I the it's I always try and use reason [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► long past the point of my sister has [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► abandoned reason entirely and is just [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► living in a completely emotional world [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► i'm still trying to reason with the [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► person and the other person's mind shut [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► you know the steel doors shot at a [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► certain point and all they're trying to [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► do is manage you get you out of there [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► store or get you away from them you know [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► so they're not hearing anything [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► listening to reason anymore they're not [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► trying to understand where you're coming [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► from [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► they're just like they're just like I [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► have to deal with this person have to [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► get them away from me i have to get them [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► out of here and by that point it's too [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► late to go to like fully moment full [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► nuclear emotion [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► uh like mushroom cloud because their [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► doors are already shut my sister goes [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► there right away like she gets right [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► inside these peoples world and they [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► can't shut the door behind her she's [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► already like she's already chewing on [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► their cerebral cortex [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► so is there is a chance that I mean [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► setting aside that you're not as let's [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► be honest not as gifted at the at the [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► set as your as your sister is true is it [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► partly that with things like typing on [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► on and costly phone you're not really [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► standing on anybody's boots you know [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► there's logic or emotion or any of the [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► contradictory things you apply to try [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► and get people to i will not climb up on [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► the front of someone's boots for two [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► reasons 1i don't have like a lot of [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► people have a belief system and they [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► will climb up on the front of somebody's [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► boot because they're because their [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► belief system is driving them and I [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► don't have a system of belief i have a [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► dive generalized beliefs i have beliefs [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► that are that are that are discrete from [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► one another but I don't have a system of [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► beliefs that will put me up on [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► somebody's boots and the other thing is [TS]

00:49:21 ◼   ► that in that situation fully half of my [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► brain is thinking while getting kicked [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► off this train at this tiny little [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► village in Slovakia is going to be a [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► real adventure book and so I'm like [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► gathering my bags with one eye out of [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► the train already like let's get kicked [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► off this train let's find out what [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► happens next what happens next is often [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► that you sleep outside of a train [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► station until the morning and deal with [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► some functionary and get on a new train [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► but that always seems to me more or [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► potentially more interesting or at least [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► as interesting as standing your ground [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► fighting to stay on this train I don't [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► care about this train I don't want to [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► stay on this train necessarily but my my [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► sister is one of those people who if you [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► say you have to get off this train her [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► first instinct is no i don't [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► and that isn't my first instinct [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► my first instinct is to say why oh I do [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► oh well let's make the best of it [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► mhm and that's you know and those people [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► whose first thing to say no i don't [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► well you have to go off the straightness [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► no i don't like those people are [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► incredibly frustrating and a lot of ways [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► of dealing with them in the world [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► she's really closer like somebody in the [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► CIA or or like interrogating somebody [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► well first you got to break them down [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► and then you got to show them a way out [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► I think that's the basis you know about [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► that i mean she and a lot of people a [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► lot of people that I come up against in [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► the world who have tremendous power who [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► you find that that's how they operate [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► that they're just like they they they [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► are not trying to in those moments there [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► just like here's what's going to happen [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► I'm gonna beat you and then I'm gonna [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► make then I'm gonna make you feel good [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► about it but first i have to be first [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► have to own you and beat you and then [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► i'm gonna i'm gonna give you a gonna [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► give you a pass a minute i'm gonna make [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► you fall in love with me at the end [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► stockholm syndrome yeah and for me like [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► meeting other people is never [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► interesting to me [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► what's interesting to me is being right [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► and if the other person is truly right [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► which is so infrequently the case but if [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► they are truly right there nothing gives [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► me greater happiness than to admit that [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► you want to adopt their world the [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► encounter encounter it so infrequently [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► it's very rare i think I'm maybe this [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► show can be a platform for you John [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► maybe our program could be a way for you [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► to meet some people who know who don't [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► know they want to be beaten into [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► emotional logical outcomes yet this [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► could this could be a chance maybe you [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► could maybe you could visit with people [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► maybe some people could text you and you [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► can just do a try on I like to meet [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► people who are right [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► it's so rare yeah it's just it's more of [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► a challenge for you right you want to be [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► you know what you want something on it [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► you don't have to get somebody's [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► punching above their weight right you [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► want somebody who you could you can [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► really really frustrate late into the [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► name [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► well I want somebody who want you want [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► to know why they're being frustrated [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► here's the thing I like people who are [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► right and then I like to show them the [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► other the up the other ways and went [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► into this meeting should be in the CIA a [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► metal is awaited about that for so long [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► I really wanted to be in the CIA and it [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► was only later when I realized that that [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► ninety-nine percent of the people in the [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► CIA you could just as easily be working [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► at verizon for how interesting that [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► there were kids you know like it it's [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► dull work the fact that the you know the [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► fact that the Intel that they're [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► processing is supposedly secret [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► mhm doesn't make it any less just that [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► they're sorting they're sorting through [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► boxes I've been shaped by that for [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► whatever 10 11 years now because I [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► remember after on 911 a talk to hear [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► that phrase HUMINT you know human [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► intelligence and and they're essentially [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► saying it's not any we don't really have [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► a problem of not having data it's just [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► we've got so much data that it's [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► difficult to find a pattern or you know [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► an outlier that would be useful [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► write this you can do much more to track [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► down well I mean if you have more data [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► than you have resources to filter and [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► act upon it [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► like that's a whole different kind of [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► problems your old problems don't go away [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► once you've got all that data you still [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► got it filed the paperwork and you still [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► got a torture the guy in the trailer or [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► whatever but right now you've also gotta [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► go through all of these thousands of [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► pages of people speaking in Arabic you [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► know where or whatever [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► well and just hoping to find that one [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► that one communication where somebody [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► says let's go blow up that thing who and [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► know what that never happens you know I [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► think I think of the premise of the CIA [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► is is like the like the same premise [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► that so many conspiracy theorists have [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► which is that there's somebody on top [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► that has a master plan who the CIA was [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► built to combat the Soviets [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► anime about the cold war isn't there you [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► there was somebody on top there was a [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► master plan but there's no master plan [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► anymore and it's like groups of four and [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► five guys who mostly mostly are [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► incompetent the CIA is an anachronism I [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► don't I i find very little about that [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► organization to respect anymore i think [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► this is I'm i used to have tremendous [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► respect for them to me like we're in [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► central america well all that tremendous [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► work they did in chile and Angola and [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► cola yeah for soccer stadiums that are [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► working on top of their game right up [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► there just the guys you find out some [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► some texts and mobile phone numbers of [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► people in the CIA they might they might [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► be really into it i am this is what I [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► find so concerning about the whole TSA [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► airport deal doesn't appreciate it talk [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► about this but I mean there's something [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► there's something emblematic of what's [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► wrong with so many things when you go [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► through there and you know there's [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► obviously is completely as people say [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► security theater you know it really it's [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► like going to a play it's just that the [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► actors are all like barely high school [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► graduates right and the script is it's [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► like it's like going to an improv play [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► where the script is it where it's really [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► like let's get two words from the [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► audience [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► ok first word you're in charge [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► second word a your charge know like [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► there's no script there's just there's [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► just these high school graduate high [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► school dropout you know it's it's it's [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► it's just it's like it's like tissue [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► paper on top of tissue paper the entire [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► thing is farcical down to the fact that [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► somebody noted the other day a friend of [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► mine mentioned that you know that they [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► shouldn't even have uniforms they're [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► bureaucrats the people who are searching [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► you the people who went through whatever [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► you know a couple weeks of training to [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► have that job god bless I'm glad they [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► got a job but then they're not even [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► there not police officers they're [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► bureaucrats they don't you know whatever [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► whatever you know ability they have to [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► do stuff to you is by making a call [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► there basically they're basically like [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► security guards and their of uniformed [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► security guards to they do I mean you [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► could buy a security guard uniform which [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► I mentioned you probably already have a [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► couple but well I don't get into it [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► again the armory problem let's see the [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► uniforms i have I could I could [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► masquerade as an Air Force colonel [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► okay here's the thing oh I wanna hear [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► this but here i want one thought is like [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► of all you distill all this down take [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► away everything [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► tick tick away take away the the [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► silliness of trying to chase around a [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► shoe bomber so now we can take our shoes [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► off the setting all that stuff like [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► setting aside the lady who has to take [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► off her colostomy bag setting aside like [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► yelling at the the old Indian lady who's [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► got the the water for her pills sending [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► all of that aside all you have to do is [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► see one thing happen to understand the [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► problem which is the special line for [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► people who work at the airport and so a [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► janitor walks by with a giant giant [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► garbage can [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► waves and walks through that's all you [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► need to know that is all you need to [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► know about the entire thing is like [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► there's Gus who's making nine dollars in [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► forty cents an hour walking by with [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► basically what probably like a probably [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► like a 10 now be more intense probably a [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► hundred gallon like a giant you mean [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► those huge things for trash [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► yeah you're looking way to understand [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► why you're taking off my shoes because [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► you think i have one ounce of explosives [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► in my shoe and there's a guy's going [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► through that could have blue boy in [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► there like you've got to be kidding me [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► but that's all you need to know well [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► general i want brought a box cutter [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► accidentally brought a box cutter on a [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► plane and discovered it only when she [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► opened up her laptop casing I don't know [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► why my mom carries a box cutter she [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► might be a sleeper cell but she didn't [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► realize it until she opened it she [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► completely flipped the switch post-911 [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► app so this is like very soon after 911 [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► when when you know when there was all [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► just a complete craziness and down but [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► you know I I mean come on [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► like I had an unbroken stretch like [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► three years where I never set off the [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► beep and then one time I forgot to take [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► a pen out of my pocket and they touch my [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► nads [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► no I got to grab and I got the overall [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► anymore Colin addresses my dad's well [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► that's you know I'm sorry I'm sorry hit [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► that it's sad but it goes on and then [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► keep talking to you it's real creepy [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► it's like one of those apologetic rapist [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► they just as they always say generals [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► are always fighting the last war all [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► brought the problem World War [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► on its imagino line problem yeah imagine [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► it was bad as I thought [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► imagine how long is pretty bad right it [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► was pretty bad it was they spend a lot [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► of money it was very very costly [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► yeah but it was like putting up a really [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► really nice chain link fence with a lot [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► of gates right well I was like putting [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► up a really really nice really like [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► concrete wall between you and your [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► next-door neighbor but then not putting [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► up not continuing the wall around your [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► property [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► it's like doing it but justice I just [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► the side of your house that faces the [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► street [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► yeah just ended at the lot line and so [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► your neighbor just walked around and no [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► no it was a mistake to lock around the [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► right side and up and then came up from [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► behind or like all the guns were pointed [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► in one direction it's the at the thing [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► is if the terrorists want to hurt [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► Americans they're not going to do it on [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► an airplane again there's so many other [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► ways you could do is the problem and [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► this is the problem i mean you can go in [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► you know what I gets a John I'll take a [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► couple things I was wrong about and i [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► thought i was a real future at the [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► company futurist I thought he had this [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► sorry i was going to say Sloan [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► sorry i was going to say Sloan [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► take a minute here I thought buffets and [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► salad bars would go away i cannot [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► believe we still have buffets and salad [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► bars i thought by facing salad bars were [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► pretty bad idea for you could just go by [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► with an aerosol spray anthrax on setting [TS]