Roderick on the Line

00:00:00 ◼   ► hello hi John how are you I'm Merlin and [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► the name John you need a better song for [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► me who I have a song for you darlin [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► darlin darlin darlin John alright that's [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► worth of work for me [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► doesn't that kind of it's got a what's [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► that was that ping-pong when you play [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► The Black Keys only that's not Phrygian [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► we call that we do that is something I [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► mean that John Lennon song [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► yeah there's a radiohead song to that so [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► all on the black keys [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► that's really good it's the it's that [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► one that's impossible to learn because [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► it's it's a because it was written by [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► geniuses well guy another one I'm [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► talking about [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► yeah I bet it's no surprises now no no [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► it's the it's the piano one from one of [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► those later records that were the other [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► one of the world leaders and bloops yeah [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► yeah but it wasn't looking but they kept [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► putting up those records that were [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► bleeps and bloops and I and I and I was [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► supposed to not like them and then every [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► one of them had some great songs on it [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► couldn't have been composed by mere [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► mortals and really just like are you [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► assholes I'm hm write that down i'm [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► super intrigued by that it because i [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► took me a really long time i sent John [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► Roderick I took me a long time to warm [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► up to Radiohead and can you get a fair [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► yeah not a huge welcome can you guess [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► the reason why I just I was way over [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► Radiohead and I was fucking tired of [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► hearing about how great Radiohead was [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► but more importantly how I had to we [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► have to listen to the radio head right i [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► was so i like that i like the creep song [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► you know objected to being told that if [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► that if you didn't like them you weren't [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► smart [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► yes and ever that I wasn't you know it's [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► what it would be like it's weird it's [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► like in 10 [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► it's like admitting you don't read books [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► or something yeah well you know I i had [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► a my Radiohead like moment i was i was [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► working in a magazine store and i was [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► reading the English pop magazine [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► assimilates the magazine store [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► i was when i was working a magazine [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► store back in ya back in the sixties man [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► me and Lester Bangs and Tom Wolfe and [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► and I spent it was the best job in the [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► world i had it for its little basically [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► the longest job I ever kept because I [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► would sit find this counter in this like [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► newsstand and people would come in and [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► say you have the local newspaper and i [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► would say hey what kind of newspaper [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► stand with this be if we didn't have the [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► local newspaper and then they would like [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► throw their quarter down on the counter [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► and storm out and I would I think I felt [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► good to feel superior all day and and i [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► would read the English pop magazines you [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► know like before mojo and Q became just [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► about repackaging the beatles every [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► issue talk about nme nme was always hard [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► for me to really swallow because there's [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► a lot of there's a lot of jargon and [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► yeah i was 17 anymore like that that [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► their coverage variable and she very [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► evil and she not use the enemy them yes [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► right but anyway so I'm reading this [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► article about the recording of ok [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► computer [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► yeah very super interesting story yeah I [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► met and the and the the reports an [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► in-depth article on the guys like waxing [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► a romantic about how this records being [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► made and all my god these guys are [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► making this incredible thing and you may [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► know them from their creep song but this [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► thing this record is a is a work of art [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► and so I'm sitting there the newsstand [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► and I pick up the phone and I call the [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► independent record store see this story [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► does take place in the sixties who in [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► the center of Gladstone's yet phones i [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► picked up the the dial rotary phone and [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► I call the independent record store [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► which was down at the other end of [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► broadway central said operator get me [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► the record store got caught up [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► hey you're that yeah Jack can get off [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► the get of this party line i got into [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► emergency is it Christmas Day [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► what about that turkey in the window [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► that goes in the window um and I call [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► down there and I said hey uh so you do [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► know is that radiohead record coming out [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► anytime soon and the prison could answer [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► the phone when [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► oh it came out today and I said really [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► the ok computer he's like it came out [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► today it's the release day and you can [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► hear him he's talking about it like he [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► started to whisper like he's in the [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► church and I said Wow is a good and he [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► said it's amazing and i said well i have [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► to i have now I have to have this record [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► I have to get this record and he said no [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► no you have to get this record Who and I [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► said I know right away you hate him but [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► but this was this was you know this is [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► 19 whatever and 97 and and when we were [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► having a that we're having a real a real [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► phone experience the two of us and I [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► said well hey look on i'm working at the [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► magazine store down at the other end of [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► a Broadway and i don't get off till [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► midnight he said all man we close 11 but [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► here's what I'm going to do [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► I'll bring it to you and that's a fan [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► and I said really said I'm going to [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► bring it to you right now and so I SAT [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► there at my job and 20 minutes later in [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► comes this kid with you know like [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► wearing a some kind of whatever the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► hipster outfit at the time was bug brown [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► Levi's chords with bootcut bottoms and a [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► chain wallet or whatever people wore [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► back in the day and he's like you know [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► he hands it to me with both hands like [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► here you go [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► I was like wow thank you you know and I [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► gave him ten dollars or however much [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► records costs and tuppence [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► I guess I've lived in a copper carry out [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► your outline my cranky gonna run along [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► run along [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► I was that guy was after me I was kind [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► of hoping that you would say that he was [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► in a wheelchair haha like maybe he was [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► going he had some kind of ND were [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► holding on a homemade crunch so anyway [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► all we have left is little stool but we [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► all we all have we all have stories [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► about certain records like how our limo [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► I could matter and that and the fact [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► that this guy at the at the record store [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► like made this trip and just the just a [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► coincidence [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► like I'm reading this article i'm gonna [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► call the record store it's not something [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► I normally do it always made me treasure [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► it be above and beyond the experience [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► the the initial experience i had the [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► music which was I put it in and and and [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► that first song with it's hypnotizing [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► baseline [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► I you know I like I wasn't sure if it [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► pass the smell test at first but it [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► ended up you know of course it's a great [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► record does that mean i can't play [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► whatever what this is what this is not [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► least I said he went always say if they [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► said that he went back to save the [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► airbag and then I i had a gun into [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► lyrics and realize that it's a great [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► it's a fucking great song on my life and [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► that's actually a great image like you [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► could reincorporate that I might take [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► that into that is linked back to save [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► the airbag [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► yeah well they're like all records only [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► one song on it that I despise but other [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► than that it is a pretty much almost [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► flawless record and I didn't I i was [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► very you wanna come back to that you [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► remember that down what sorry oh please [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► right now but you can guess you can get [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► at you can't even guess [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► no I know what song you don't like on [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► the radio and record but what song don't [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► you like on rumors [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► oh daddy are you having not crazy about [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► daddy [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► at least I don't forget my head or you [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► think you can guess it's got 12 song can [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► you guess [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► Radiohead yeah i mean i think it's i [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► think it's the one song if it's armored [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► police now [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► not at all like to later would you call [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► me too sorry i start over [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► it's in the sequence and you've almost [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► flawless and no you enjoy a good [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► sequence election down electric [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► electioneering silly yeah it's fix way [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► out I just punku one skipper it's a [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► skipper but my gosh have so much to [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► follow up with the no way to talk about [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► radio though you might overhear I want [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► to just I just want to say that this is [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► this is bad on me and because you know [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► there's this is a constant availability [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► heuristic as you like to say there are [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► certain things where you see a pattern [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► often enough that you got me not for me [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► you know this is you do this all the [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► time you're very productive person [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► innovative like what pattern that I'm [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► expecting now is that you're going to [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► segue somehow to talk about Sloan and [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► and you know it's [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► something i want to put the kibosh on [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► okay i want to talk about Sloan you [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► never want to talk about Sloan eric is [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► the only one that would talk to me about [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► salon there are a lot of people in [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► Seattle that will talk to you about [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► Sloan I know it's it's what is it [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► something the name check they try and [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► talk to me about Sloan and I have seen [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► Sloan half a dozen times just came out [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► the same here came up saying here's one [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► chord to another if you're curious about [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► how can you not like d turns to G oh my [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► god the the you know but seriously there [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► are albums like this and i have to say [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► John I just feel like I don't know you [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► you know perfectly well but I feel like [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► I see this all time with you you gotta [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► switch flips and you go the more I hear [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► about this thing the more I'm so fucking [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► never going to consume this personally I [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► mean and I've had a lot of good reason [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► to feel that way there are some times [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► when I've been dead wrong [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► there's a lot of time to write and it's [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► why I fear how I have become the wire [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► guy and the movie guy like you got to [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► watch the wire you gotta listen to move [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► and I do it until everybody sick of it [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► no one likes it and now they're mad [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► couldn't want to listen to the wire now [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► for me I don't know how this happened [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► also was recording the castle I gotta [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► look this one's castle recordings i [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► think i look at it wasn't a little [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► computer castle recording I thought they [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► did it on a on a canal barge ah hmm i [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► think if they can October by you to [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► follow the good women know you to [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► definitely recorded in the castle that [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► without let's start [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► ok computer didn't record it partly in [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► hallways and bathrooms and I think of [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► something else I might be thinking of [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► the planet telex record which i also [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► want to talk about i'm not sure i do [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► know that i do that know that David [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► Gilmore has a studio in a boat on the [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► Thames or something just to get away [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► from roger waters well because at a [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► certain point at a certain point it's [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► like I could either throw my money in [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► the temp yes or i could build a studio [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► in a barge on the Thames like I have too [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► much money and i am i'm just going to do [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► so i'm gonna do this i'm writing this [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► down just so never have to talk about [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► again I I don't like to bring up Mike [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► love I need someone to write things down [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► so you never have to talk about them [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► again write things down for a lot of [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► reasons John I'm gonna get a carton [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► listen listen other Merlin who lives in [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► my head i'm writing this down and we're [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► done talking about it [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► you be quiet you two I'm just think it's [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► super group involving Mike 11 Roger [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► Waters we can come back to that if you [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► wait a minute i'm a Roger Waters fan [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► yeah what wait a minute i don't like 11 [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► things wrong with that your day and now [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► you'll absolutely absolutely [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► he's around her and I my god the what I [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► mean like love could join that super [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► group that we're putting together with [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► anthony kiedis on vocals and we should [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► see this hand think I'm doing right now [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► and robby krieger on guitar but all the [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► best fighters are just a little research [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► on drums uh-huh [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► just just the cream don't think he's a [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► good drummer Lars it i mean he's I don't [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► know who makes his drums uh large should [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► we talk about injustice for all at some [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► point we talked about that with me maybe [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► and justice for all as a tremendous [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► record yeah I like this I like this how [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► you like the highlight this trigger [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► drums I don't know that there's not [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► there's no there's nothing about the [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► drums and metallica this is the thing [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► that sounds like he's playing a phone [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► buck james hetfield is such a musician [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► such a tremendous musician who although [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► his his taste in his judgment or [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► sometimes in question didn't always get [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► the credit but such a tremendous [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► musician that he has made a massively [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► popular band with some classic music in [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► spite of the fact that his drummer and [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► lead guitar player are both like [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► absolute animal they could figure out [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► how to teleport they couldn't figure out [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► a turnstile with a Sherpa and [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► flashlights and I think they're not [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► bright men when you watch the [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► documentaries i always thought you know [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► Hadfield was goofy you know and is [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► setting aside the alcohol stuff I I [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► thought he was just dumb as shit and the [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► Kirk Hammett was the genius the spoolie [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► doodlee doodlee guy but it's clear that [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► like first field does it all and he [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► plays a bunch of the good parts right it [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► was the mall because all the good parts [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► and then everyone you know then he like [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► points through the glass curtain goes ok [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► literally right you got 45 seconds go [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► yeah that's in it becomes like that [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► yngwie al dimeola thing we're just doing [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► runs yes the flowers oranges dad was in [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► Metallica that would be an incredible [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► insight about Bobby Ulrich [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► what's-his-name remember remember he's [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► the little use the little dwarf that [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► lives in [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► toadstool that appears halfway through [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► the movie and like talk shit about all [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► their music [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► he's got great touches beard into his [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► belt right one of those guys I gotta go [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► back and this is just some kind of [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► monster [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► yeah that that movie though that armor [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► just watching terrible record but like [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► that vitamin b12 shot just having feet [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► having seen the film but when you walk [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► away though like you're still pulling [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► forehead field isn't a weird i mean at [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► least i was the whole time I was like oh [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► man he's the Paul like he's appalled [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► he's doing is trying to hold this shit [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► together when he's got you know well not [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► all probably had fewer of the problems [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► that the demons that field demons but [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► you think Paul McCartney had fewer [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► demons the james hetfield I think [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► they're probably easier to market you [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► think it's a team meeting is a hunted [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► man Paul McCartney Paul yeah he's [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► haunted by the board normal texting [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► seriously got divorced from a lady who [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► lost her leg in mine and that's [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► complicated [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► that's a lot of layers to that John [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► noticed it was ugly [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► I'm trying to think I mean Paul [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► McCartney this is the thing about the [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► Beatles that no one ever talks about [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► which is that I mean people talk about [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► it but it but it it's not like the [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► Zeppelin era where people really talked [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► about it with the beatles I mean think [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► about all the birds that they shagged [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► when shagging birds was a thing you [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► could do and then Paul McCartney marries [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► a like a forty-five-year-old one-legged [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► girl and before that it was the the [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► photo lady couldn't sing a photo lady [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► couldn't thing and frankly wasn't pretty [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► ever heard soundcheck was just her [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► monitors i have oh my did you every one [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► of her frozen dinners [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► no no but I see need to hold the door [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► open legally a vegan door okay yeah the [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► pleather I remember walking through a [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► supermarket and seeing her face [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► appearing out of me through the frozen [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► you know like our vegan meals in behind [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► the the freezer compartment and I just [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► thought oh that have that tastes [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► terrible then I don't taste terrible to [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► look at it now she says she is an old [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► paintings she pass [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► oh yeah she's Paul would never have [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► divorced her they were that was like the [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► love of the age of like he's trying to [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► do a yoga thing that you've seen John [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► Lennon ice cream and ice cream [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► no Ben & Jerry's [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► that was the horrible may imagine you [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► know whirled peas or whatever what's [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► called a convention chocolate swirl or [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► whatever you know like everything apart [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► a person the proceeds go to charity [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► ok i encourage you next time you go to [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► your store that sells ice cream and eye [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► to eye [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► I buy a lot of ice cream ice time ago i [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► took photo this point on the internet [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► one time ago and look at the service [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► mark it's just I know this is five shows [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► we can't get into it but it literally [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► says on a John Lennon is it is a [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► trademark of you haha and i know i [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► understand the life is complicated [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► in-laws are the way they are but I was [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► like you are you know what that's that's [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► been true for a pretty long time [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► yeah yeah I got that letter I got a copy [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► that let it being but i can't watch it [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► because the Beatles don't talk about [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► beetles and birds reading glasses right [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► now I they aren't they are my [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► prescription I'm and i don't know why i [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► put them on but it's making everything [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► look super convex but this is like half [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► glasses [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► no no they look like real glasses but [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► they're magnifying glasses instead of us [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► a look at john linnell we got like big [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► eyes super-big I separate the time and [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► generally no had had had absurd jokey [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► like magic store glasses on the meet his [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► eyes look like look like like the size [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► of silver dollars he has very thick [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► glasses but he also has huge eyes are [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► very very handsome man that floppy hair [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► is hard to do [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► yeah he's the kind of handsome that [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► where you feel like you you just feel [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► like just snuggling up in his armpit [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► it's no it's a different kind of [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► handsome and he seems like about the [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► last guy in the world that would let you [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► do that he would not let you do that no [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► man John Vanderslice you could get the [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► dog bed with him just roll around he [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► talked into it you know what funny you [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► should mention that vanderslice is here [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► right now snuggling in my arms again a [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► lucky man like Jim thank you [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► come on i'm doing a podcast was like oh [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► man [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► i'm @hardwick ok here's what I've got [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► right now we got to come back to the [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► beatles I I think we need to tackle the [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► Paul issue at length because I have some [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► very strong Paul feelings i really do [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► too but I don't I don't feel like I can [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► just I don't feel like I can start [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► talking about no need to stretch it's [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► like yoga [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► ok ok I've also got a red hair [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► wheelchair I want to talk about my cured [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► meats I want to control down a little [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► bit more recording in a castle is I [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► don't think that might be a brian eno [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► thing it's a huge the recording a castle [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► that's the bottom thing right that they [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► made all the bottom drum sounds in the [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► in the stairwell of the of the castle [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► and foot aluminum foil is kick drum hear [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► no I didn't hear that idea here that he [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► would throw he would throw a drumstick [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► at any recording engineer that got [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► within 15 feet of his kit there for him [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► he makes his own drums [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► well they didn't want to he didn't want [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► close miking he want he only wanted the [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► Far mics and if they tried to but you [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► know and recording engineers always want [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► to put my close-up makes their job [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► easier so they'd stayed we stayed sneak [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► in and they start moving the mic stories [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► kid huh KITT he talks tix at them until [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► they got scared and ran away when okay [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► if you get out you can sm57 foreign up [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► far enough up and engineers ask you [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► can't very very dry sound is what they [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► call it in the industry are you speaking [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► from personal experience nobody i [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► mean--is don't you use like forced air [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► will usually sm57 is pretty flexible for [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► four jumps are not on the kick butt like [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► you can you can get by with an sm57 [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► right you put a 757 on and we can hammer [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► nails with that shit all day long do [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► anything you can make an entire record [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► with just one NASA mission I can't tell [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► you how many stinky sm57 that his smell [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► I've smelled some really bad sm57 and [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► they all pretty much work it's always [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► the cord it's very seldom that Mike they [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► smell like there's more like low tide [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► like the tide goes out and then the the [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► crustaceans are kind of rotting there on [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► the beach that's what a lot of those [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► mics Allah low tide [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► yeah whenever we have a ribbon mic guy [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► i've certainly use them i think they're [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► I think there was you bring your inbox [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► and shit [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► ok it's ok it's expensive but they are [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► expensive in the ribbon I mean it's a [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► you know that no sm57 those breaks super [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► easy if you like sing too loud and break [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► the new with the new ones are [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► more robust was that doesn't sound [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► ribbony I want to get back to recording [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► a castle doesn't 57 is like the [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► Telecaster there was a bit they made it [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► perfect the rest i can put it in the [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► trunk you could take it apart and put in [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► the trunk [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► yeah yeah we should come back to that I [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► had telecast recording in a castle what [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► you're thinking of is dr. Quinn Medicine [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► Woman owns a castle that she rents out [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► two bands to record group is that true [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► yeah she lives in a castle and when [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► she's done she's making dr. Quinn [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► Medicine Woman or whatever she makes [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► other films and stuff I think she runs [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► this out to to rock bands her house but [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► making problems simply a web page for [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► that's my son that's most of it yeah [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► she's an actress she's them and halfway [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► or somebody she was sort of boobies in [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► something once when she was young I [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► don't know who she was she was in a [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► James Bond movie [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► no shoes are peeled monger look that up [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► telecaster I think I've told you this [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► story first of all part b III haven't [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► explored this a little bit offline and [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► talking to some of our non-fans but i [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► think would be interesting to this is a [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► really dumb idea what i was thinking it [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► would be fun at some point to do a [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► series on REM records the ones that I'm [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► familiar with MH she's like I'm just on [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► that green are you somebody that [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► includes green or somebody that that's [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► not what I was just just out of [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► generosity is a monster but Green would [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► be fine with me [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► oh you go all the way to moms now see [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► just because i love internet personality [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► i have to please people charge ya know I [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► stopped a dream i stopped before green [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► up to Green uh I know every note okay [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► what is this how you wanna roll from [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► green on it's like okay whatever you [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► want to stop a life with that rich [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► pageant you're not gonna get an argument [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► from me that you pick your you know pick [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► your tunes or whatever and I'm gonna [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► week as a superfan [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► ok I you know what let's keep it let's [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► keep it tight [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► I think it's okay so what's the one of [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► Elections pageant and that's a screen is [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► a green 86 let's come back to this [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► anyway my point being you know I yeah [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► when you're younger and you have a [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► modest amount of money just expect to [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► the independent record stores thing I [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► was a Tampa to the physical final fever [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► to my record [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► he's like you know half hour 45 minute [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► drive you go there a great record to [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► import is where i bought my level [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► terrorist apart 7-inch it's like where [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► you go to buy your records you still [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► have that level to transport 7u bad idea [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► yeah with the BW packed with you nobody [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► stands for packed with Jenna locksmith [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► bwca cbw don't know what that means is [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► level tears apart BW these days and i [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► bought it in nineteen hundred and [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► eighty-five force in Europe roundtable [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► yes and like a lot of the factory [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► rectory you know it costs a custom [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► literally $17 to make each one of those [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► and only charge to quit [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► nobody even knows what a quit is it was [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► very uh it's a the top [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► how many ok so how much did you got [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► farther you guys how many part you get [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► so many far as shit showings go into [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► going two parsecs parsecs going to top [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► ants and stuff is going to vomit copper [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► how many how many bugs here in a copper [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► I think good i think it's for Bob's to a [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► copper mine got your uncle and then and [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► then Allah 11-team coppers to 26 pins [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► ok and then what's the Exchequer the [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► Exchequer is like the the second [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► secretary of state it's like these a [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► finance person exchequer right well it's [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► a yeah it's like the minister of finance [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► and that's I i had so i had this long [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► list of names that I wanted for bands [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► that were all uniformly awful and I [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► really when I was in high school I [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► really wanted a band called exchequer [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► mmm that's a good name [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► no it's not it's really not X chill it's [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► chill [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► so I heard the reviews I'd heard the end [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► of your lists I'd seen the past and job [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► I've seen it all and I knew clearly in [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► order for me to make this next step in [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► my life I was going to go have to go buy [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► a copy of this album called murmur ok [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► and this is at a time [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► this is a very strange point for me [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► because this is when on a trip to vinyl [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► fever i might walk away with the secret [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► policeman's other wall that the Thompson [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► Twins into the gap and enjoy too much [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► instant she might buy that that zapper [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► record that's all [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► orchestral arrangements i get negative x [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► 1 but [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► but like i wanted to i want to Zappa [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► record only 99 cents ship your item too [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► late to save eight dollars in sixty-nine [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► cents so I go in there it's almost [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► closing time you remember this right and [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► you're sitting there this is these kids [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► today to understand this you just going [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► download the entire you know who screwed [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► discography and come back from lunch and [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► you got it all gonna stand [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► no they don't understand that this was [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► this is truly an economic decision and [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► I'm sitting there like I don't remember [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► the other record i i i really do have [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► this weird recollection of it being a [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► Thompson Twins record but i'm probably [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► misremembering that i'm sure into the [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► gap without yet having fun boy three [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► oh sure they think the now they did [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► something with Bananarama right then [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► what I can on the sealed our lips are [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► sealed is that four-minute singer of fun [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► boy three co-wrote are ripped our lips [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► are sealed with jane wiedlin may each [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► did it a different version of it on [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► their respective records mainland wrote [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► that they believe that Jane Wiedlin [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► wrote a lot of the lot of the hits and [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► she was a great songwriter friends [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► started Francis article talks about [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► total super boxes I pixie I tried to be [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► friends with her on Twitter and you were [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► too much fur [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► mmm that was just that there was a there [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► was a culture gap a communication gap [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► got him back to this we got supposes [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► that she was she was like living in a [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► different you know what I did you know [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► what i did this week started following [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► any man so now i'm following ii men this [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► journey is a is she she's a real [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► facebooker she doesn't have Facebook [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► very well because she likes longer-form [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► exchanges have here some longer for us [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► that's not even funny [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► what if I was Romeo in black jeans [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► here's the thing um like Michael Penn [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► record you hear that wont to no myth on [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► great record bike rider she has so much [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► Mary to write as much on Brian right now [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► he's mentioned Michael jump Ryan's the [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► windows in the pan with the Jason [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► partner okay um Jason fuckers great [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► he's also great he does great also great [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► you seen him lately [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► big gun big fella and he's making [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► records with Susanna Hoffs who's still [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► just as beautiful as ever one [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► the cover of us girls awful the the [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► thing is i'm sorry i'm in the store [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► right i think it's that we're matter [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► came to this a 14 Fletcher Tampa anyway [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► working for so right in the heart of [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► tampa it sits in the bondage gear [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► district yes and so I think it's near [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► that near the left ventricle of us and [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► it's there that University I'm super [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► grateful I didn't end up going to yeah [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► the one that's all that looks like a [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► like a wedding cake [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► no no that's university of tampa totally [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► different totally fancy-looking [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► university it is it is and I think [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► they've got they've got a bookstore in [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► their place where they give up the [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► diplomas so I'm inviting fever and ok so [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► you know you know you know record store [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► guy right [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► it's not that different camera store guy [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► guitar store guy comic book guy you know [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► there's this is a type and i gotta say i [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► also used to be video store guy there [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► was a video store guy in sarasota that [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► loved fucking with people because you go [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► in it was an awesome indie like you [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► could go and get all these crazy you [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► know whatever you know hard to find film [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► you could get and if you ask him for [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► advice any thought your bozo he would [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► recommend something horrible to you [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► right you should try stars and bars like [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► home [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► god this is awful so anyway I go in [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► there and I know told you this but I [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► treasure this story I go in there I'm [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► holding two LPs in my hands and like you [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► know I hate 69 [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► hey you know that's a 69 they can't get [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► anything else right and I'm like this [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► sorry I'm records remember I hear a lot [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► about it and you know is this good [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► should i get this and without missing a [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► beat he goes that's a pretty good feel [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► like keyboard oriental music haha [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► Oh Lou look classic code [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► tick-tock tick-tock the stores closed [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► and i'm now holding something like the [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► Thompson Twins maybe in the name of love [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► and event planning and a record better [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► record with kudzu on the cover that [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► might be keyboard orientation she's more [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► beautiful more oriented music [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► and you know what I i did a bit the [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► bullet and let's look at home I spun it [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► i want to say i got at the same time [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► secret police and other ball but I [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► anyway my friends literally laughed at [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► me because I did the thing that you hate [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► I know you hate this you know you know [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► what I did I did I did the thing i did [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► the needle poppin right i would go for [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► oh yeah first 10 seconds of every track [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► secondary track oh god I want to [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► strangle you and you do that my friend [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► is still was not out of the closet I [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► went my god it's the country record and [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► then you know the Merlin Merlin of the [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► 19th i guess that's probably for the [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► best looking for the game a little late [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► to the game but I'm but reckoning was [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► the one that really really really [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► grabbed me right [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► remember me like a great keyboard [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► country record oh my god if you love [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► keyboard oriented music yeah sure Bob [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► Wills Texas Playboy centerfold i murmur [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► makes a ton more sense i tell my kids [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► this I I say start with the chronic town [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► jump to reckoning and then you're [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► writing maybe former get the remastered [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► version whole different world [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► this is something you Yusei to merlins [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► prices to homeless kids you know when [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► you walk through a store asked if it's [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► keyboard oriented he didn't pass that he [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► was Jerry Lewis is still with us right [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► Jerry Lewis ya juu of the two of us [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► you are the one who would know the [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► current status and whereabouts unknown [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► exactly one person I can talk to you [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► know this is you have exactly one [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► problem Goldwater and go launcher only [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► person I can talk to about general you [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► talk to her about it but mushy mushy [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► matches my shot-for-shot literally [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► literally shot for shot and gentlemen [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► I'm gonna dominate turn I'm gonna I'm [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► gonna I'm gonna blow up the fourth wall [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► here and speak to you directly [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► no don't John that's really that's not [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► yet please don't listen address our list [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► directly and I'm gonna say that Merlin [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► on the topic of Jerry Lewis is a thing [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► to behold he should have a very loose [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► centered podcast all to himself which is [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► its multifaceted as well as deep [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► I think that you you you love Jerry [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► Lewis both earnestly and ironically [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► I love the complexity of Jerry Lewis so [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► I there's plenty of room for irony with [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► the loving giving in the thing this is [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► an industry that fears a genius but [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► there's also there's also there's also [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► the inescapable truth which is that you [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► resemble Jerry Lewis okay you know what [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► here's the deal here's the deal [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► identification ok I'll you know what [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► I'll see your discomfort and raise you [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► an asshole [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► from now on if you really want to get me [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► with you when i go to the land [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► uh-huh you can go Jim Carrey is for hear [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► that one more time I'm gonna fuckin got [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► somebody I'm gonna get it on my shoulder [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► i'm doing your country movies on my [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► shoulder heartworld still beating [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► yeah oh yeah I don't you don't remind me [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► of jim carrey you your face isn't as [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► elastic I got a pretty elastic face I'm [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► aging he's aging but Jerry Lewis useful [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► some pupils Harrison thing to see this [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► is that this is the high-level i'm going [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► to give you the the elevator pitch and [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► Jerry Lewis first of all stop what [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► you're doing [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► go not to a bookstore your computer and [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► by the king of comedy by shawn levy [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► which is the started it started so i'm [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► gonna Lawson thing that Jarrod oh it [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► started as it started as an authorized [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► biography and quickly became totally [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► unauthorized and it is about a man [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► you'll hear you will hear about how he [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► paid a bellboy to crush up as percocets [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► you hear about him throwing a champagne [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► bottle at a wall and saying i christen [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► this hotel motherfucker you will hear [TS]

00:31:12 ◼   ► how he kept a loaded gun it in the [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► bathroom next to his drugs and his [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► family found I won't go on only Robin [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► understands me on you you know you need [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► a gun in the bathroom i'm i'm with him a [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► hundred percent there any good you know [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► what this is but nevermind I'm not gonna [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► ask you this I've learned with my [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► friends who are here who crazy with the [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► weapons not asking too many questions [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► because there's a certain you need an [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► element of surprise [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► that's right you don't want to if [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► somebody says like where we're all the [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► guns in your house right and you go oh [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► well let me tell you where I say always [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► my worker porn you know you got its [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► distributed it's like get a level your [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► resources you know what I mean you don't [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► want to come home and meet a guy who has [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► been in my house for half an hour and [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► collected all my jumps and he's holding [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► the best gun and the restaurant the [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► coffee table by having an abscessed gun [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► and he's like welcome home [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► John I'm a big fan of your podcast watch [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► and see if you're wondering why I've [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► called you all here i want to talk about [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► the candles to him to come back to that [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► in a lot of fun and the candle [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► oh my god it's so creepy John if you [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► have to be successful i move the candles [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► all onto the piano piano it's creepy [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► I get photographed for the thing [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► creepier REM record or Jane we owe you [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► shoot we drop some threads here any [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► minute she seems cool facebook thing [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► that's a non-starter for me Jim we've [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► already done in the record store and [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► just you know we can pretty much take us [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► anywhere you want i I don't know every [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► kind of lame have a feature on here i [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► think you know part of what makes our [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► online such a national sensation is that [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► it you know whatever podcast blown yeah [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► they really did lose me though I mean I [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► that's why I've said they should be four [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► bands because i really like one of those [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► bands i'm ok with the second band and [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► then you know i'm just glad they're [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► successful I'm happy we talked about REM [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► well we don't have to talk about Sloane [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► for you talk about right now about him [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► REM you know the the great insight that [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► I had to get can strengthen the job done [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► nothing wrong with that better is so [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► much wrong with that you know that they [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► just prolong his life but I get a new [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► places to find fresh blood when peter [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► buck was living here in Seattle I [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► learned through my good friend shawn [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► nelson who was recording some songs with [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► him but the way that REM write songs is [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► that Peter writes 600 songs and record [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► them in his attic with baseline guitar [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► mandolin and all that stuff he just [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► makes he makes cds with 30 tracks on [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► them every one of them sounds like a [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► classic REM song truth and then he sends [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► those cds to the other guys and michael [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► stipe like pics which ones he likes to [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► start you know writing his parts to he's [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► always done that mean apparently on [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► reckoning this is it [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► well you have the remaster three [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► releases I don't us you know I'm not [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► that guy but I'm just telling you at it [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► you know how murderer is such a [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► headphones album most people don't [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► realize how much of a headphones out and [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► that is you're not even gonna believe [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► Homer sounds in the new version and you [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► know I have my ears are dead my ears are [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► totally dead reckoning and also the [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► bonus stuff on both the bonus concert on [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► both are great but seriously you need to [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► get this you know what I help you with [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► that the classic liner from the from the [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► recording of of murder was just like [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► here's the it's the first band in [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► history where all four guys keep saying [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► can you turn me down [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► you turn me down in the mix like I like [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► my parts to be lower in the mix like the [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► only band in history that all four guys [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► were fighting to to be i can't i can't [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► believe like it man [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► bilberry got a lot of guys drawing he's [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► like these of Ringo you know the guy [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► she's so fucking solid and i don't know [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► i mean some people say he has a limited [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► palette but I just I love his drumming [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► so much wrong with limited palette [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► drumming well that's an electrical arc [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► in the rain [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► Oh My Christ you know what I'm going to [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► move this car for other way to put it [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► over here the music I listen to rain [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► when people when people get that that [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► bullshit about Ringo not being a great [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► drummer like go listen to rain [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► usually the people that don't like [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► Ringo's drumming are large Lars Ulrich [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► ask for incidentally megadeath fans [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► oh I like making death there's nothing [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► about megadeth to like nothing at all [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► nothing but I don't think he's kind of [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► interesting i do not think he's [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► interested I think maybe death of the [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► like the big four is like a little [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► overrated [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► I think they're gonna do I think they're [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► a little I think they're little campy [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► compared to the other stuff of the time [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► here's what maybe that is megadeth is a [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► jar of pre-mixed ketchup and mayonnaise [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► expression is stressing well but but not [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► mixed like master master day is not [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► mixed together like so that its kind of [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► light orange i'm talking about mixed [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► together like that peanut butter and [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► jelly that is kind of swirling epoxy [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► with the captives ok it's like that he's [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► like metal epoxy is terrible and you [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► know what he's really nice sound like [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► mayonnaise and ketchup for the not want [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► anyone talking about five years he has [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► been pretty money immediately into the [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► jeans [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► it's not really your official name for [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► our Lord and Savior the gene that [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► changes is that right because the sudden [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► all the sudden I understand what the [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► fuck you're talking so you're talking [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► about [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► yeah the jeans the chase okay [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► Jesus the thing is that G there has been [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► a process over the last 15 years [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► yeah of really making Jesus more and [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► more hip all the time you know like 50 [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► years ago [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► rock and roll music was was still like [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► like devil jiggaboo music I really [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► really miss the John a three-parter I [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► still want to talk about all of this now [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► rock and roll is like now it's Jesus [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► music certainly in seattle there's a lot [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► of Jesus what mr. Zant about this much [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► did we talk about it almost seems like a [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► nice guy so we're unconscious from lack [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► of oxygen looking up with him I'd like [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► to meet that guy i will put you guys [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► together no you're not calling him and [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► keep me up to me up with Carmen you [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► don't run girl name is no I i know well [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► I just myself when I introduced myself [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► what's up once a new pornographers show [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► like my first introduction to John Doe I [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► was a good rule how many how many sheets [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► to the wind can you be have your victim [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► huh [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► he see no he's a very ECI he strikes me [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► you know except he's getting crazy with [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► the hockey on the Twitter and he's a [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► very easy strings of you know not shy [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► but he's not like the runaround go out [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► and get out there kind of guy and I try [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► to be my shine in fact I would even go [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► that far [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► okay well I'm doing my best like don't [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► be creepy that I can do given that i am [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► the world's may be single and giantism [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► paano fan of all time and an old-school [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► from the first note new pornographers [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► fan and it went very very badly very [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► badly so I don't even want to talk about [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► that but well the thing about Carl [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► Newman in my experience I mean I was [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► always a I was always a massive fan she [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► likes upon oh how can you not like my [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► Sean ohh Sean legs upon you and is in [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► Photoshop zapatos amazing everything [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► there on Sub Pop Sean and and Eric [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► course and former bass player the long [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► winters are that they both introduced me [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► to the pond and former i'm writing that [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► town but in any case it's not know that [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► I didn't you know Carl was like I like a [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► hero and then after a show one time we [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► played it we played in New York [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► after-show nabil our drummer was like oh [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► yeah I was just hanging out with their [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► Carl Newman [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► sounds like he was a seal-a-meal used to [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► have a record store and now runs a label [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► and run the local feels like I was just [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► hanging out the problem i was like he [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► was here and he was like oh yeah yeah [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► he's a he's a long winters fan of the [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► show as we're hanging out afterwards and [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► I was like what [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► why didn't you come get me and he was [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► like oh I don't know just hanging out [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► together with him im gonna be and I [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► don't think about these things when had [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► some dinner even and I was like oh you [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► bastard so I knew that he liked the long [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► winters and that he had seen us play and [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► so the next time we were standing [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► together as we had done before kind of [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► standing backstage at a rock show [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► I kinda cycled over to him like hey [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► how's it going i'm john you know and [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► he's like oh you know and yet didn't [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► know you're in the pail [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► yeah i mean he knew who I was yesterday [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► as i say he has seen me play right but [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► there was that there was that feeling of [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► like so I so yummy [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► here we are right standing next to each [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► other now and we know each other and [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► know each other's music so it's okay for [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► me to say hey I really like that is [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► Sylvia hotels only did I really like [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► that that record you made and it [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► immediately went completely sideways [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► because he was just like oh thanks and [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► kind of like um and uh really so was it [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► awkward [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► well only because i made it awkward like [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► he wasn't being awkward he was being [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► normal [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► I was being all right you know what John [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► I retract my request i already feel bad [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► about asking i don't wanna freak that [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► guy out no but this is the thing so [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► overtime now we have seen each other [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► multiple times we communicate via email [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► we so to tweet back and forth and it [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► just is [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► it's just one of those things where you [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► don't you cannot you can't assign up to [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► him and and expect him to [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► um yeah he's not going to like he's like [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► a cat right get away from to come to you [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► yeah exactly he's not going to say oh my [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► god [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► hi a superfan you know car parts boom [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► because he's just he's you know he's shy [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► Shier he's on the gyre end of the [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► spectrum and but I find him [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► amazing songwriter and a super super [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► super get incredible songwriter any and [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► they have thumb if you can get [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► underneath you something I like to but [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► their version of that jimmy webb orange [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► arrow song flipside of BW of the [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► wraparound shades is date somebody out [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► there might be the same dude who linked [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► to all those up they did like a whole [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► session of watching web it up like [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► backrack David songs and you know and [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► they're not even doing that whole would [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► just get background David bacharach by [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► however backhaul David oh IC ok did you [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► think I meant was that you think it's in [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► the Jewish thing and I thought we were [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► doing a yoga thing ever and entities [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► walk on by will understand that joke not [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► a fan of the boxset bitch I got [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► back-to-back box set up the last one to [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► be anyway I cut you out how did how did [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► you just get reverb on your voice almost [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► 70 you step back from the my content [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► chris wallace thing you know chamber [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► yeah no I know it's because i have great [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► mic skills unitronic that's why it's so [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► over driven when I do what happens if I [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► back off from my mic that do i get [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► reverb oh my car parts [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► I'm sorry I cut yeah I'm really sorry I [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► cut off the Skycam by the way I'll never [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► do that again I'm sorry okay so you got [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► a little shit for cutting off the skype [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► gym i saw on the internet people were [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► saying why did you cut off the scamp [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► with listeners were mad your girlfriend [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► the other 1pm so I cut you off before [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► Carl Newman you and was posting me man [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► god this is a star fucky 00 p Buck it [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► buck [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► yeah what about people oh I've heard I [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► heard a pic slide I heard don't make me [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► get that out what does car parts is in [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► is in a or c what sit in car parts and I [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► learned it all the way through one time [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► in d i think ii [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► that first half second of that song ahh [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► takes the win do the beginning of a [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► relationship with a news is never see it [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► coming you don't see it coming that's [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► the thing about pop music you never see [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► it coming and then poof there it is [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► let's see another some songs you can [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► never create this without it being [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► stupid but that song [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► Oh Mother of God [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► hello its me I there's some people songs [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► like this but where there's the little [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► like you know what I mean if you tried [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► to do this would be really stupid but [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► when you've got the little like before [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► the song thing you know you remember the [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► hidden track deal my band always do this [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► and was totally stupid [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► remember the nineties thing of always [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► having a hidden track course you have [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► never hidden it was so played out now [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► wait a minute now you would go with the [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► dog in your dad singing that's that is a [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► hidden track [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► well here's the problem with that truck [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► great song so we needed 10 songs for the [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► first record to fulfill 240 lat bar soup [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► yeah and i only had mine is the Josh [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► what's up these nine songs are gonna [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► work it doesn't kids need to ya mean a [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► cover song about a shack see and I had [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► nine songs and and it was plenty long [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► enough record it could have been nine [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► songs but we needed 10 song and this [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► this song a little grass shack was the [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► song my dad used to sing to me when I [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► was a little kid and he's saying it to [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► my whole life when we would 11 my dad [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► and I were driving in the car if we were [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► driving for very long one of us would [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► start singing and the other one would [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► take the harmony parts and we would sing [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► the little grass shack so I'm like well [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► I don't have a tenth song I mean I did [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► but I didn't have one that I i was ready [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► to record and and so we did little grass [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► shack well then it turns out i thought [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► that this song was just some song that [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► that's the slaves together i just really [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► is like pete seeger hurt nobody [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► it is it is a song but still was under [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► copyright is written by somebody and the [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► sheet music was still out there and and [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► it was owned by one of the big music [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► publishers you know [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► sony BMG year which you get asked apt [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► well no because we put it on the record [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► and just didn't mention that it was on [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► the record like there's not there's only [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► nine songs technically on that record [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► the tenth song isn't really hidden [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► because it's it's it's not tap to have [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► it be a truly hidden track on her on a [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► 90 style pop record their needs to be 27 [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► minutes of silence [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► yeah what so it's comes on as a surprise [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► nah lets her back [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► what was the record it was there was the [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► one that had select 17 minutes before I [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► went into the it might have nothing [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► which wasn't Michelle shocked door or [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► maybe a indigo girls there was one of [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► those records that had a hidden track [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► John we're coming up with these [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► shell-shocked or George Winston like hum [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► i don't have stand over the girls how [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► are the leaders like us keep charity 87 [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► or something like that x and and and [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► we're all baked and taken out and [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► reducing the michelle shocked you don't [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► like you did [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► uh-huh like you did can provide around [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► the campfire an elastic Resnick me were [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► listening to you know he got a fast car [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► tracy chapman all that that was the time [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► when you could be a dude and listen to [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► you girls really fast car right now all [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► sides [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► to say having to see the doctor of this [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► in identity that's a total abuse of the [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► DC source for I should be the fucking [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► mayor of DC source for that that music [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► really you were high and sleeping in a [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► car in Alaska and listening to listening [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► to the the lesbian song about the car i [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► was high and sleeping with a girl who [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► packed the end this was before girls [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► like turning into Mickey Rooney route [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► before girls relentlessly shaved all the [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► hair off of themselves you go [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► this is when girls were like you know [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► natural girls and they do they were like [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► boys basically but with girl part yeah I [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► got a Japanese shrub situation [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► yeah and we would you know you'd sleep [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► with each other and listen to lesbian [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► guitar music hey Dad the eighties [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► anywhere and so we fall asleep or we're [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► not a hundred percent of sleep or just [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► like ninety-eight percent of sleep and [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► baked that the being baked was taking [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► care of the last 2% of awakeness who and [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► then this this record with the 17 [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► minutes of silence like another song [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► comes on I don't think it was Michelle [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► shot something up another song comes on [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► we both like jump up out of bed because [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► it was you know it's kind of cranked and [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► and last thing we were expecting jump [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► about a bit like into into combat pose [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► while you're high [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► yeah just like haha and then it turned [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► out it was it was a secret trackpad to [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► the songs might be baked and going to [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► sleep in college for me i don't i think [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► it was i want to say i don't know by one [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► of the one of the replacement songs i'm [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► pleased to me but it's a song where you [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► hear this like it here this like my [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► coming out of like stereo right and look [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► and there's a church song it does the [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► same thing even more so to get almost [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► with you it's but it-it-it the things i [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► listen to record every night is you [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► never go to sleep records [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► well I now that's not how you listen to [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► music harlem yeah I was probably was [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► that was so so was the lady here the [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► head you listening to [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► yeah yeah I went through a phase where [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► my roommate was having sex with his [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► girlfriend really loud [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► and I had to put on music to drown them [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► out and in that case might go to sleep [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► record was Lovelace by so my bloody [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► Valentine's to catch I would just crank [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► that LOL you're fighting that I was [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► doing well I wasn't fighting back until [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► he climbed out of his loft which was you [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► know we lived in a huge warehouse and [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► there were no walls so he was at the [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► other end of this house so this is sick [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► she sound that going around your sound [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► echoing around yeah it was terrible we [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► were just we were competing over hate [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► loud sex we were we were creating you're [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► creating like a sound apocalypse 20 feet [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► above the ground and 30 feet from either [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► of us there was this place where the [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► sound meshed but he would climb down you [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► could hear him coming down the ladder [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► and walk over and turned down my bloody [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► valentine because it was it was [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► interfering with like the lovemaking he [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► was trying to do [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► ironically enough when you sleep and [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► really really laughs and then he's got [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► back up the ladder conquering and I'd [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► wait until he was all the way up the [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► ladder and back in bed and you could [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► hear them start giggling canoodling and [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► all that shit things to do and then i [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► would get up and comfort out to the [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► stereo and crank it all the way back up [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► again and then go back to my little bed [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► and he come down the stairs and he would [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► never come over come all the way around [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► to my better be like fuck you man you [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► know you just turn the stereo down again [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► and then I had some I had like a Kip [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► Winger record some great i'm just a tip [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► i found on the street that I would that [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► was my like nuclear option I would put [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► that in at that [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► what is that this is the shaggs maybe [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► like the first underground good i had on [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► the head an extra you're saying a pretty [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► nice girl i think she had the guy one of [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► those little like four-day crushes on [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► not to get on somebody in college she [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► had like me a little bit and she we both [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► really like is like that reminds me [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► Jim Carrey mm I don't like Jim Carrey [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► then I look like how did you look like [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► the guy from princess bride [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► oh yeah i'll combine with Michael Palin [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► like early Dave pirner and somebody with [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► a restraining order [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► they have her give her the cartoon song [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► that used to be really good for the [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► everybody decided everything ready in [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► Minnesota eventually they start out [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► wanting to selling hüsker dü and the [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► end up fucking up sounding like they're [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► the bad not bad but the later [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► replacements you know that [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► yeah but look at the look at the the [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► heroine guy with their with an [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► underwriter like he started out this the [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► you using the first you Lemonheads [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► records their day I know from history do [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► but that that clam dip another device [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► that's a great price great record oh [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► yeah and you know the crossover one that [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► at Stacy and produced this is literally [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► the most boring podcast has ever been [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► done except for maybe two people and [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► it's musicians don't listen to us but [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► the one now hang time and i'll put the [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► video for cartoon it's got there there [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► are there are three songs i started a [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► band in college to play three songs to [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► play all summer girls by big star [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► cartoon yeah by soul asylum and that's [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► when I reach for my revolver by mission [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► of burma that's the three songs that [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► made me want to start my first band once [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► you play those three songs why did you [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► keep why did you guys keep playing [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► together [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► I know what we were using your songs now [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► but seriously what we get to that what [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► we did to couldn't just tell you by todd [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► rundgren I should be in a Turkish [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► fucking prison for the rest of my life [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► for many reasons again also don't I was [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► personally Keller to scott miller i was [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► sitting in a cafe in like 1991 and [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► that's so much follow john and i was [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► looking I i felt like i was looking good [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► that day I comb my hair and I had on a [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► sweater or something I was sitting here [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► drinking coffee and this was i was still [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► at the age where is really trying to [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► figure out I knew that guys picked up [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► girls [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► I understood that this happened right it [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► wasn't like my experience of dating [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► girls was that we had a class together [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► and she sat next to me in the class and [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► then pretty soon we we we were going out [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► but I knew that there are right there is [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► a process but she knew there are people [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► that like I do their guys that walked up [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► to girls in bars and cafes and then they [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► were like 20 minutes later they were [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► ripping each others clothes off back in [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► one of their little shitty apartments [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► and I was like I will i would like to be [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► one of those guys i would like to try [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► this out [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► and so I was sitting in the cafe was [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► drinking coffee and there's this girl [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► sitting hadn't had a neighboring table [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► and all she's she's she's really pretty [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► she's got she's wearing glasses since [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► dark curly hair [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► she's also may be wearing a sweater with [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► honors for juices and that right [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► I like Jewish girls and she was Jewish [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► enough that it but you called Jewesses [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► is that I don't use Jewess now know hehe [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► eeprom in Hebrew mine is remind ya right [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► and see what's up to her so I so I'm [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► like and this was very hard for me to do [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► to like just cold call somebody [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► hi good cold calling the Jewish i'd like [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► i'd like to talk to you about your [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► insurance or whatever and I you know I [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► kind of like lean over and say that she [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► might have had headphones on and my [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► opening game but might have been ashamed [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► to say what are you listening to God [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► Almighty was that can I sniff your [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► panties it was just this bad you know [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► and she responds positively like oh hi [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► you know I'm listening to solo style [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► haha [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► and when is for uses 91 okay and I said [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► oh soul asylum [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► I know about soul asylum and started to [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► talk to her about soul asylum and we you [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► know what I Cannock school my chair over [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► and pretty soon i'm sitting at her table [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► and we're talking and I am so excited [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► that this girl is like receptive to my [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► to my you know my entree that i'm just [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► i'm giving her everything right I'm [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► giving her the shotgun blast like of [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► everything I know and I think I start to [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► perspire because I'm like am I doing [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► this right is this working [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► yeah our do you like me edge should [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► should we go [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► are you married would you like to be [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► married and after about 20 minutes [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► she said this is something I this is [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► something I still I i still am ashamed [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► she she starts putting her books in her [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► bag and she leans in kind of clothes and [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► with a kind of rye like almost ani [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► difranco look on her face she says I I [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► think you're just I think you're just [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► trying to our and she put her stuff in [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► her bag and like i said bye and like [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► walks out you're so close you are so [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► you're on the wire between almost the [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► other side [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► i SAT there like absolutely certain [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► first of all in this crowded cafe there [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► were you know 90 people in this place [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► espresso machines going music playing I [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► was certain that everyone in the room [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► had heard it had heard the line like as [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► if it had gone out over the public [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► address system and and and of course [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► realized bathed in shame that i had been [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► trying way too hard and about the same [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► times asking myself I thought that [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► trying was about the trial was what you [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► wanted her with a that's what people was [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► like that you're trying i don't and i [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► immediately I think stop trying and [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► didn't try again for 14 years old you [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► get in the interim [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► well smoke pot for the first four and [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► then for the next ten i just set their [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► sneering sat in the corner sneering and [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► checking checking the closet door every [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► every minute have to make sure that knob [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► is still locked mr. is to wash of [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► occasionally changing guitar strings and [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► appearing in court sneer sneer people [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► come over and say hi is this seat taken [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► and go you know what fuck soul asylum [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► you okay [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► what you doing horse you rode in on [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► and then maybe like oh good that's all [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► sound record what fuck you and the horse [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► you rode his only hit the horse there in [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► on pretty close to it yeah [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► huh it's it's a tragic tale one of many [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► that's an awesome unless I hate those [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► stories I yeah yeah you know i wish i [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► wish you know it's one such a porcupine [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► one of my one of my room on my December [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► resolutions to stop talking about what [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► I've learned big because it's nobody [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► fucking cares you know but you know [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► it'sit's this is the problem John this [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► is the false dilemma because on the one [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► hand every douchebag guy on the one hand [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► thanks like me you start out with a very [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► earnest and I think nice thing which is [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► like I tell girls that they're nice and [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► i like them they will like me which in [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► retrospect is incredibly creepy a total [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► turn off their horses on the other end [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► you get the fucking you know seduction [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► community dickheads [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► yeah which is you know which is like you [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► know I think it's time would say it's [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► date-rape with a persuasive theory you [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► know it's like a lot of big big house [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► and nose rooms [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► you said the r-word i know we we we've [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► been taken to task but one on the on [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► some internet comment pages [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► yeah for light of rape [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► oh I'm sorry I'm sorry well no no in [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► this case i'm not i'm certainly not when [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► I say I ok but my position is that we [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► have never made light of rape [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► no I'm very upset about this very upset [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► about this because you because we were [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► our podcast was posted on metafilter yes [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► we know I saw the comments on a comment [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► was like I can't listen to this even [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► though I love both these guys and I [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► think it's really funny because they [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► made a joke about rape ya know I made a [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► joke about rape jokes which is entirely [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► different matter [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► so matters like you understand we were [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► making a joke about rape he didn't [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► respond to John no cackling responding [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► know i know i know enough i know enough [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► not to respond i just don't know enough [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► not to read the things is your problem [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► these team [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► I you know I was your anything honesty I [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► got some coffee and unfortunately my [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► refrigerator at the government has some [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► meat going bad [TS]

00:59:13 ◼   ► we talked about that I i was urinating [TS]

00:59:15 ◼   ► occurred to me that I would never [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► you're John Roderick right you know what [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► I mean on the I can't think of a [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► sidekick but you know I'm not [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► is it really that gay yeah I don't know [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► not robbing a Cato know but see that's [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► the problem can you gonna ping pong [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► again you can't do that i was urinating [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► and occurred to me that I would never [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► understand i will do nothing to impinge [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► on what you have to share with people on [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► how you help people but if I were going [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► to state rules and I'm not and I hate [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► talking about the thing i'm doing wrong [TS]

00:59:45 ◼   ► doing it i would say i would say no [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► computers [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► I no politics no addressing the audience [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► and no discussing people's response but [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► not broken all of those which is [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► seriously ping pong in a lot of ways on [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► this podcast we have broken all the [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► Masons rules and then once we [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► Masons rules and then once we [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► once they want to do it again an hour [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► later and now it's not a serious role [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► that I've got I doubt this took me a [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► long time to learn i'm sorry i was not [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► i'm talking about how creepy i think i'm [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► not encouraging Cape i'm encouraging [TS]