Ep. 11: "Everybody Knew What Mr. Finnell Did"
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hello hi John how are you I'm Merlin you
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well I am well get you sound you sound
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terrific did you make coffee or
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something
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wow thank you for saying that no I had a
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kind of a tumultuous morning but it all
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worked out who I i had an orthodontist
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appointment the that I had I had already
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rescheduled to different times one of
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which time I arrived at the orthodontist
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so late that they said they couldn't see
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me and they had to reschedule and then i
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had to reschedule it again and this
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morning it's a disappointment at ten
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o'clock in the morning and this morning
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I set my alarm at nine
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i woke up at nine and I lay in bed
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playing solitaire on my phone until nine
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fifty and anna and so then I I looked at
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myself I was like I didn't actually look
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at myself but I said to myself are you
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are or what is the matter with you and I
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jumped out of bed at nine fifteen I ran
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downstairs and I got in the car and i'm
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speeding across town you know it takes
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it it takes 30 minutes to get to the
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orthodontist
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I'm weaving in and out of traffic
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banging on the steering wheel you just
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yelling at myself like what is the
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matter with you and I called the
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orthodontist was like can you please I'm
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sorry I'm gonna be late to meet 30
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minutes late
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can you please see me and they and they
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were like I don't know
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and so I'm driving across town and I'm
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like I'm on the verge of putting my hand
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through the through the windshield i'm
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so mad 494 and I did this to myself for
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no reason at all just like dread of
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going to the orthodontist or something
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i SAT and played solitaire on my phone
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which is like clicking I mean it
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seriously as I myself sitting it's like
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a four year old man's teddy bear
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yeah it's like sucking my thumb it's
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like getting there sucking my thumb and
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sucking your phone it's like sucking on
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my phone
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it's like wow you bed you know what
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you're in the cards point are you in
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traffic at this point you're not
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punching the windshield but you're in
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traffic
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I'm weaving in and out of traffic I'm
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unsafe at any of the slide while you
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played up today I'm infuriating but the
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other people on the road playing
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solitaire talking on the phone tweeting
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and driving but I find I make it to the
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orthodontist they take care of
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everything like they extend my
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appointment and then I stop and have a
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nice little sore leisurely rest of the
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morning and i get home i make a pot of
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coffee and i'm talking to Merlin and
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everything is back in place right where
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it should be in spite of all this
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self-sabotage here i am right and
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everything is right with the world so
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inspired in spite of all of that it's
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weird though you know it's hard to know
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you know what they said Peter Schaffer
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in that exquisite moments snap together
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like magnets
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you know that's not a good movie it's
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pretty good potatoes looking work i get
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north and south
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I despite this is my daughter with her
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trains she's not very bright but you
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know who knows who knows why they
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started great i don't know how you how
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you up all that down i would like to
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point out one thing that allowing nine
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minutes to get there something he
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discussed before I think I think I don't
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want to take us off track but i think
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one thing is you might want to slightly
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recalibrate your what odometer barometer
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this whatever whatever the broken meter
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in your head is that says it only takes
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nine minutes to get anywhere because i
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think that the solitaire is a way of you
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making it nine minutes to get somewhere
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yeah we've talked about this before like
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do you think it takes nine minutes to
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get places including from San Francisco
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to New York City it often takes longer
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than nine minutes and and I and I swear
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sometimes I i get places and I'm late
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and the person at the other end of the
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thing is like you're supposed to be here
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half an hour ago and I'm like mad at
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them for being so far away
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there's so many reasons to be mad at
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them you know whatever they're far away
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why is your office so far across down
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from me there far away there on time and
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they noticed two three strikes you're
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out three strengths but but but this was
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that this is a special i mean this
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wasn't a case of me like lollygagging
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around the kitchen having an extra cup
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cup of coffee trying to decide what
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shoes to wear for half an hour
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this was a case of me watching the clock
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tick away as i did the dumbest thing
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that a human can do I mean playing
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solitaire on your phone
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I mean is there a dumber thing even even
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stacking rocks
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tick tock tick tock tick is stacking
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rocks in the garden you have a black
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Queen black Queen red jack of rocks when
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you're done right you can you can come
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back an hour later be like see that
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stack of rocks i made that but the but
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the solitaire on the phone there it's
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like you leave no passage it's like
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walking across the rice paper over and
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leaving no passage and then you are some
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foo it that's it maybe is there so many
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hands I don't know where to pick up this
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luggage on this dick nigga three-by-five
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oh speaking of which I found some
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three-by-five cards no kidding
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yeah some old ones that i had lying
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around so I'm I i put them in a in my
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stationery file that's the file it
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doesn't move
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that's my file that never moves over the
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principal is your pal the principal was
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never my tell the principal called my
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father that ruins and holy monastery was
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an internal muscles and said i would
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like I would like your permission to use
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corporal punishment on your son and my
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dad set and visit this guy i'm seeing
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this guy's always students sitting in
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this guy's arm and he has he has a
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cricket bat it has offered like I'd like
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permission to use corporal punishment on
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your son I'm sweat is pouring down my
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face I'm thinking to myself come on dad
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come through for me come through for me
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dad and I can hear my dad on the other
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ahead beat the shit out of him did he
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hit you with a cricket back a cricket
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bat he bent me over his freaking desk
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more than once and hit me with a cricket
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bat John that is that is so so not about
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trying to help you
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this is old-school this is a public
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school to this i'm not i wasn't in some
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Catholic penitentiary i was in right i
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was in public school was prayer was
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prayer a lot of the time i think you
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could probably pray at the time with the
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transition period
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yeah i was between beating the shit out
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of kids and make them not have helped
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will see you and I are this you and I
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of an age where the public school
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curriculum was designed to beat the
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Russians into space we discussed this
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I've said this before it's totally true
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and it really would be you and they
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would try and beat Jesus into you guys
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don't think that's what they were doing
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to the Russians and they're doing it
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harder and that's why you're guaranteed
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that the one was a hand yeah who is it
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now whose hand was the second one to go
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up and the first one the second one to
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go ham the monkey is a chimp
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yeah he went first grade Aaron went next
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are you sure i think the second mammal
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in space there's a Russian and then
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there was that there's a chimp and her
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did not end well
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although the dog like a light go was the
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first that was a camera know like the
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dog like the dog was the first and they
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electrocuted those animals to train them
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to you know that well that's how they
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treated us in America we're sitting
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around we're walking around in America
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afraid electrocute animals and that's
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why we do not have we don't we never put
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a monkey on the moon because we were so
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afraid of electricity it might take a
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couple more cricket back service to
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really straighten things out
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there's a lot of things are we're afraid
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that are keeping us down and one of
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those things is saying bad words to
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people just like to say bad words to
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people now and and john i'm going to
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write them okay here's what i'm doing i
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have one card this is bad and all caps
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and other ones his words because it is
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so important that we circle back to that
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and that there's no way I'm letting you
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go on the Cricut bad thing though so
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because I think there's something to
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let's get this guy this is the
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significance new members names in there
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something you know Frank kupil Frank
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Cooper will be a frame for the cricket
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back sadist
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he wasn't even the principal the
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principal was some ineffectual guy with
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like a would like a little uh Trotsky
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beard who never came out of his office
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but Frank google google took this
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cricket bat he drilled he drilled hole
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it from behind there more
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yeah we drilled holes in a cricket bat
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and and this is an Alaska like who would
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ever seen a connection sure this
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happening sure this isn't as Oprah
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memories
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no I swear to you because I you always
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hear about the teachers who had drill
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holes to make it hurt more
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oh no this was real he had a he had he
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had a collection in his office a law of
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coke cans from around the world that's
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former students and sent him is what he
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was doing he was it
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music music nut he was pretty cool to
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see the vice-principal like latino boys
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or something like that it was the he was
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the vice principal and another thing he
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did he would walk around the lunchroom
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with a tennis racket that he had duct
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taped two one-pound weights to either
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side of the tennis racket and he was
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just he was just like lackadaisically
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swing this tennis racket back and forth
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just practicing his back and practicing
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his forehead was walking around London
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front of everybody
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oh yeah yeah he's on duty is clocked in
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yeah if he could if he could have been
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doing that if he could have taken his
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shirt off he would have done if he could
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have walked around that luxury with his
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shirt off he was equally as a fit guy he
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was a fit guy he was a mean he's the
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type of guy that walked around
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practicing his tennis serve like
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absent-minded professor duct tape duct
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tape 2 1 pound weights one on either
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side of the tennis racket
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I don't think this guy's this guy's got
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that corpse is under the under the
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floorboards god you have no holy shit
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job quick how are you eat you know
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holes in it
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nobody's asking any questions about that
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sort of the creek bed probably frankly
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to Frank tell me more about the holes in
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your cricket bat and then he beat a
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couple of kids and he was like this
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always something he rated it
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yeah Usher within a year or two
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this was nineteen eighty nineteen
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eighty-one 1982 maybe within a year of
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that there was no way he could ever
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gotten away with beating a kid with a
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bat again right i mean that was 92 was
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to possibly the last year this is last
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helicopter pontoon I was the kid I was
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the labs the guy on the stairs right and
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the helicopter took off his ring down
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easily and all those people still try
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stairs right there was one there was a
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last helicopter can't use baby and it
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hits you with a fucking cricket bat that
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was me that is so weird I man if I was
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interviewing you know I think focus for
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soldiers to get out of the way I think
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if you're going to interview people who
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are in a position to even consider
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corporal punishment they should have to
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bring with them the object that they
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intend to use to hit children because we
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should be actually because they say on
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the table you should be able to talk
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about that that should be a bubble up
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box on the form to talk about that now I
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there's any this is this is the item i'm
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going to use this rubber hose right like
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bring us in a big stick of crazy so we
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can understand a little bit about where
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you're going with this look how are you
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going to solve these incredibly complex
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problems of kids who aren't sure where
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they are
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what will you hit them with now when I
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was in elementary school this was still
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a huge thing i'm happy to say I have
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never had the corporal punishment
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happening as terrified that I'm really
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gonna get kid i was there was you know I
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was terrified kid
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yeah i think at one point we
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collaborated on an idea for a shirt for
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me that was going to say in not too big
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probably pretty small block letters
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because of the nature of the shirt
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driven by fear up one of the shirt we
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worked on
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yeah yeah yeah and uh and that's one of
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my favorite police songs to i'll driven
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but that's that is pretty good and then
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you go into the turn down my VCR the I
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got bad words bad as your mother bear is
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gonna come back to Edwards um ok so
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second grade mrs. rightly she had
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recently come down she was probably
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right about 4 bucks choosing the
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emotions close to 400 pounds and she had
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and this was before that was fashionable
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it being a fatty
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yeah this oh yeah 400 being a
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400-pounder was a serious lifestyle
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commitment I mean now you can be 400
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pounds and you and you have a lot of
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this is eddie eddie van halen was at the
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time he was 10 years old and had a
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sticker on his on his I'm a guitar that
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says yes please fatties cannot possibly
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having a big event the Buster until
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nineteen eighty mrs. Bradley was very
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large she looked like a cross between
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like I think like I would say Oliver
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Hardy and Iran and we talked a little
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bit Dorothy Parker and that's a good way
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that's a strange combination but I see
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and I see where you're going and did she
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warehouse dresses and my viral correctly
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in 1970 be you know for whatever if you
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weighed 400 pounds your number of
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clothing choices was fairly limited it
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was is mostly like how stresses me out
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of curtains and what
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if you get the camping section yeah yeah
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she's big thick ankles and I assume and
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she had a ping-pong paddle shipping big
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ping-pong paddle that she was there was
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kept in like a special place
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it's the ritualism this two freaks me
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out when you say big ping-pong paddle
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you made bigger than a normal ping pong
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paddle I have a slightly larger I could
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have been my eyesight or like some kind
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of I don't know there's there's like
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regulations about how big your ping-pong
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battle you mean now in table tennis play
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like professional yeah yeah I don't
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think they're I don't think anybody's
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gonna it takes a lot of money to tool up
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a ping-pong paddle factor you're seeing
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how you're saying you're a second-grade
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teacher since know how you're not going
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to be hiring somebody in ICM career
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Japan come up with a prototype ping-pong
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battle using table tennis table time
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sitting there working i think my phones
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racists ping-pongs racist up ping pongs
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races that's my sister Kim jong-un say
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that no I'm saying that I don't think i
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don't think there were bigger ping-pong
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paddles I think they're always been the
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same size and that you will change like
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Pete like baseballs and now let's go
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back to your friend let's go back to mr.
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accomplished Frank couples are correct
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to cool off of someone from home loan
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got the recent / is you google not now
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he has a large head or standard head
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because you remember your pork around
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that area started seeing the large head
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tennis Erica think I think he had a
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large red tennis racket I think that was
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where all wait a minute no no that would
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have been before the lord I don't think
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night 1981-82 I think if this is the
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kind of fellow that is going to
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literally duct-tape weights on to a
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tennis racket I don't think he's gonna
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be playing with the latest technology
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he's got a standard head standard had
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cricket bat and a standard head is
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really wasn't aware i i'm i'm i'm having
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a cents memory now of it and i think it
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was one of those transitional rackets
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between the Smallwood old ones that we
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learn to play Tennyson and the big
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massive headed ones that came later I
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think it was one of those aluminum ones
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from the interim period that was kind of
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halfway in between getting a content to
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get comically large though they're
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ridiculous now but remember when they
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started talking about the sweet spot and
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then this racket had a bigger sweet spot
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and that sweet spot moved around and
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this was I think from that era with that
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when the concept of sweet spot was
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brand-new for people's understanding
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that so that's it was especially not
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circa nineteen seventy-four this
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was not a technology that was going into
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corporal punishment devices like a table
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tennis / ping-pong paddle there's not a
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large head ping-pong paddle mrs. Riley
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had probably i'm betting not i'm betting
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if there was she didn't have access to
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like the cosby talks about the belt you
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know for Phaeton and Oksana and wouldn't
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you know it like you imagined it being
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worse than it actually was so i might be
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i might be misremembering a large head
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yeah yeah just seem big coming-out you
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been anyway but she never hit you with
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that you're saying she didn't she didn't
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but but it was always there and it looms
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large mr. fenell circle fifth-grade
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african-american guy looks a lot like
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who's the little fishing guy down
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Travolta was the other guy single
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Jacksonville and he looks a lot like
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samuel l jackson dressed as a seventies
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guy and he had several Jackson dress
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another way I thought that was his I
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didn't get in nigeria shrimp
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yeah I don't know that's a good question
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that's not all right so anyway yeah I
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don't see him earlier he tried to have
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dinner for me head try to have dinner
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together they have to be in a soundproof
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room along with robert evans and Jerry
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less salt was all had these fantasies
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about insufferable people trying to eat
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together and like just imagining what it
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would be like to try to even order with
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Jerry Lewis there that is that based on
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some of the dinners that you and I have
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had together
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I have to imagine now mr. Farnell I
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think this is something he had made
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himself
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I think this was a project that he had
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made in some kind of a woodshop he had a
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multi-ply paddle that was kind of like
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you imagine like a regular paddle but
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kind of like with an octagonal corners
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cut off type situation and it was really
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was scary it was kind of a dark wood
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like him
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it was like I had kind of mahogany kind
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of thing now but now you knew Mr
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phenomena business he was the PE
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teachers this is right around the time
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we went from gym to PE remember that
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needs to be jamming with PE I think that
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right about the time I went to PE ice
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I did everything I was when I started
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doing everything in my power to stop
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letting you go to PE called dressing out
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J I didn't want I didn't want a dress I
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wanted to I wanted to go to the darkroom
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more or get some exemption is racist
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I i also hated that the transition from
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library to media center that still
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sticks in my craw and we didn't have
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that we were in Alaska I mean it
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having just having like books on tape
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was mr. mr. fenelby here's where he took
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an eternity as he had this big-ass
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paddle that he had made selections be
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clear here
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you're not making a lot of dough as an
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african-american PE teacher in 1977 but
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he took the time but she got something
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on the side that's a good point that he
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might have been cricket batting so then
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click about this is this is Florida
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after all you see are you implying that
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he's a cocksman or that maybe they
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didn't exotic dancer singer know i'm
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thinking i'm singing wasn't that the era
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in Florida where every single person was
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importing cocaine from our nuts is back
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in Ohio so you might have been busting
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in yellow Ohio remember a goon who
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could've been a good you might have been
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a paddlewheel goon em you know that's
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the kind you can slip in
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it's like I looks Blackjacks the copies
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to carry around with you know those guys
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might have might have liked larger scale
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ping-pong paddles if you forgot about
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union-busting Ohio goons so you're
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saying anything
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Frankel careful is that right to full he
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might have been he might have been a
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union buster
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you never know well in Alaska aboard the
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Teamsters ran a tight ship but you
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wouldn't get away you wouldn't go far
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they trusted us to use your situation
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ok here's but ok this is getting dull
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but Mr finnell he was very tall
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african-american what he would do is he
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had his paddle and that paddle came out
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he was like you get one morning and then
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I remember one day going into class
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everybody knew what mr. fenelby that
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what did he do
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terrific hurry information I am Scott my
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he's gonna get the goldenrod you know
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saying there's no probably not
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I hope I pray John that there is not so
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specific form as a 57 stroke 15 came in
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dolphin shorts while hitting child
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he's gonna get the goldenrod this is
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going in your essay of gym three more
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times and we're gonna have to talk going
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to the permanent record
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yeah did you get gave him pay for his
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laundry probably right well the thing
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about remember those who you know PE
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coach shorts at the time where were
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impervious to the liquid right my
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football football short one said those
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were made us for that this is still in
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the dolphin like waving from a parade
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ok so you remember me graphs remember
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you get the testing you smell it not you
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I'm not a lie I one of my first the
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first things I ever get my the first
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distinguish myself from the other kids
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that I knew were just in my way between
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me and greatness i started in second
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grade I started publishing my own
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newspaper and I i was the only reporter
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and the artist
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hi night and it was like a broadsheet we
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also the Ombudsman I was I was the
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editor in chief chief reporter I didn't
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we didn't have an ombudsman but i would
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go out on the playground and I would I
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would you know I would investigate
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goings-on in any case at one point the
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teacher got tired of many a graphing my
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newspaper for me although the the
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teachers loved it and and they taught me
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how to use the mimeograph machine and so
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I i had special access to the teachers
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you know broom closet and I would go in
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there and I would run off cop
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of my little second grade newspaper that
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poems I'd written and you know and
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events of the day and I would just sit
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in there and just soak in that
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mimeograph smells so nice just it was
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like back in the old days when they had
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leaded gasoline and you would and you
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would sit out when your parents were
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putting gas in the car Tony just tough
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as much gas as he possibly could
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while you're standing out there like oh
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that smell but the mimeograph there's
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nothing better than a million ground
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well you know like you know that death
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by a thousand cuts to the Chinese people
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would take like a few hours to cut into
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little pieces
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you know that rice the people being
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among you you know about that it's all
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sure it's done right alesund country her
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death by a thousand cuts it actually was
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a thing it was heavily exaggerated in
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western reporting but this was a thing
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that the word out what which would you
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prefer death by a thousand cuts or drawn
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and quartered electronic quarter in a
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heartbeat
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you take drawn and quartered understand
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that they cut off one of your limbs and
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then wait awhile they cut off your nose
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not a thousand cuts is unusual the point
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being it's excruciating do not read the
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wikipedia entry no matter what but we
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would do now the thing is what they
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didn't say all the time is that give you
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could bribe them and your family would
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family could bribe them and they could
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come and give you a shit ton of morphine
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give you morphine before this because
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it's just pretty awful the whole thing
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i'm gonna give you more freedom than
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give you death by a thousand cuts that's
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something that's counterintuitive you
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don't know anything about the first
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thing about justice john you're trying
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to hurt the person why yes you are yes
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you are but you're it's mainly the other
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people see them being hurt
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this is that this is the kind of thing
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they were doing right ok we're going to
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teach you some kind of an object lesson
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we're going to stop at the femur now you
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get it let you go now it's four other
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people that's why you hanging from the
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that watch college at the corner at the
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thing else is the front this is what
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happens when you subcontract sadism out
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to non Satanists like first i thought
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this up
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was it was clearly a sadistic person and
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then it became popular and they're like
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we need more death by a thousand cuts
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people were going to contract this out
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over and then there were all these
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people that job a backlog said the idea
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of these people that had been sentenced
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to death by a thousand
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and there were there were not enough
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sadists and so then they got these guys
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they're like I don't really want to do
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that that's seems mean time consuming
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and they're like sorry that's the
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sentence and so yes maybe if I slip him
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a little bit of morphine little it's
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just I it's better than saying that
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works across purposes that's like
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somebody going and feeling like mr.
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cuticles cricket holes
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yeah right for somebody like oh I've got
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coupons cricket bat but I'm you know but
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I'm gonna like put a book I'm gonna have
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you hold a book between the baton your
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but you know I don't hurt you but I want
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other kids to know that I'm like I want
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them to hear though the sounds
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that's like let's like strangling
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somebody with a comfortable electric
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cord you know exactly the that's
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pointless is it is i mean it works at
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cross-purposes if you're going to
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sadistically torture somebody put your
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heart any you shouldn't write you should
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be reveling in how much pain you're
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causing this is what I want to come back
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to John Wayne Gacy here's the point I'm
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saying that like the morphine i think
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when they give you the math quiz you get
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a little bit of a if that's nice and
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fresh get hit you'll hit off the of the
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mimeograph I think it takes the edge off
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of the long division so mr. Pennell who
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took the time with what I imagine is lay
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there tabletop saw or maybe somebody was
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keeping in his basement he made a
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homemade paddle that without any for
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authorization he brought to school and
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should use to hit kids now here's what
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he did in addition taking that time he
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then took the time to me a graph like a
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little not a five-star a little
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five-point like little magical squares
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like two inch by two inch squares to do
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with me graph purple stars on them he
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would tape to the paddle and hit you
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until the star broke one he would meet
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took the time so he thought this out he
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ki graph probably got out of protractor
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Andrew a ruler and a pen to get the mini
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graph paper he went and he made him a
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graph little stars that he taped onto
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the paddle and they hit you with the
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paddle until the star broke now what not
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and then he would stand by the doorway
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after the class has changed with his
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arms folded holding the paddle with the
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busted a star on it and I don't ya
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horribly weeping child one of the only
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see which one of the children was
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horribly sobbing oh wow yeah i mean this
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get so many levels to that I mean that's
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like this guy's not running for the
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Republican nomination right now talking
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about the Tea Party I love this guy this
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is a baklava of problematic problematic
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behavior John it'sit's I I don't see
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anything problematic about it this guy
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this guy it deserves a Congressional
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Medal of Honor any family center
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I really feel like I feel like he is he
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wasn't not in an era when being a nut
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was was right up the middle isn't it was
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encouraged it was bred he found the
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place the Ohio Public Schools you know
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where he could be
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I mean you know this poor sandusky guy
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now with his diddling boys in the shower
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ok so what you're saying is three years
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ago I was like you didn't even need a
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license
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whoo you didn't even need to start a
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charity you could just be a public
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school teacher and so you can see it is
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better you now I'm fine with it
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you're saying mr. Finelli in some ways
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not only was channeling his energies
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into the right place but maybe avoid
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going to jail because he found a place
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where it might not have been okay to hit
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people with a mimeograph star until it
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broke on his homemade paddle is a kind
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of interesting kind of what I'm saying
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is right now if you if you wanted to do
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that you would have to drive around in a
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white van and grab boys off the
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playground and do it and then you have
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to kill him and stuff of their body in a
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culvert there's no pension
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I mean that you're not going to get away
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with that somewhere there's no a week
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even if you want to Thailand they'd find
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I happen to the rock'n'roll chi that's
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what happened to him that's exactly
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right here a lot of trouble with that 40
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years ago you do you could retire and
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and and and have her but he probably has
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that paddle or he's probably dead now
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but he probably had that paddle like
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mounted in his den ya all the memory
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what about the dolphin shorts now people
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don't I i I'm going to get rid of those
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this guy's doesn't let you know what
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parts to keep and what parts to get rid
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of it so what is that the soul the the
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that only recently have we started
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fetishizing things like the clothes that
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that's the that stuff happened in you
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know what I mean like all those are the
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shorts that I wore me out my channel
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analysis gallons or something yeah i
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don't i don't think i mean because
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otherwise like where's Napoleon's hat
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right they've got Napoleon's hat you
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think they have Napoleon somebody that
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you think somebody's got to pull inside
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oh I finding the book of lists it's one
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of the most costly things ever auctioned
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off at you know what I I there's nowhere
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I could go to look at something is I
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think if there if I think if if there
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was Napoleon's how is still around but
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I've seen a picture of it because that's
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the type of thing that I searched the
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internet keeps you up at night i would
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have I would have followed some chain of
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links to a picture of Napoleon's and I
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would have stared at it for an hour so I
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just I happened to read in the New York
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Observer the other day but they're
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having some auctions of elizabeth
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I'm afraid she's coming Fred she's gone
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now what's your perfume couple diamonds
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no it was called so one white shoulder
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like diamonds white diamonds screen
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click originally she's mentally she's
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honest hours i don't remember but
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continued their actually writing off
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Elizabeth Taylor they're having other
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having an auction of elizabeth taylor's
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material that lasts
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it's five full days of auction maybe
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they got an incompetent auctioneering
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he's talking really slowly
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oh no no this is this is that this is
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being done by christie's this is like
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this is the auction event of the season
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they're having one day for her just for
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her legendary jewelry and then a second
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day for her run-of-the-mill jewelry and
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then a day for like undergarments and
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there's a day for for the for the
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cocktail napkins that she doodled on I
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mean there's we have serious like a
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whole panting day such as this is that
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subsumed inside of just the day of the
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auction your kind of embarrassed to be
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at yeah it's the auction where where it
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you're really be going by elizabeth
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taylor's olds pantaloons like it just
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doesn't
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I don't understand I mean a granted i am
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not a fifty-year-old gay male so I don't
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know why you would go to an Elizabeth
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Taylor or-or-or Liza Minnelli auction
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for instance Malik ass
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I think Liza Minnelli is still dead but
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when she arms are still alive when she
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yes there will be five days of auction's
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of her undergarments and blood she was
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married to Peter Allen which is kind of
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kind of funny things happen Ellie yeah I
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know how you can see that one coming
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yeah no no I and is now that neyo go to
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Rio feelings for what did you have a
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later husband who was like who seemed
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like he had been crafted out of heart
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David something not David Furnish you
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know he looked like he looked like
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something had been discarded from a
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naugahyde factory
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yeah right like like like someone had
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had gone through through a Morgan just
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taken like random like that second that
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I was that guy was super disturbing have
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you ever been someplace we have to look
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at like famous close people famous
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cornwall like okay so you got the big
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Paul Allen museum there but I don't know
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how this happened but what's already
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have tricks is closed
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ok i wanna hear about that one time I
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don't know how this happened just might
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be one of those open memories but i'm
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pretty sure that one time I saw it maybe
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was when we were in Washington at
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sansone i'm pretty sure I saw a really
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really really really long big display of
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first ladies gowns
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oh that does sound Smithsonian it's like
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going to the sewing store it's one of
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those trips you remember that if your
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mom is crafty like that but having to go
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to some kind of a store when you're in
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kid with his chest it's like having to
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go to like the members our fabric
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stories that is the canonical the Ben
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Franklin or whatever it is not a single
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item in the entire place like a Snoopy
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applique that you can take out of the
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things like the most amusing thing is to
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get the styrofoam stop foam you put the
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plants in and get plastic flowers and
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and then is like like ladies and smocks
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that's not even remember going to the
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carpet store right where was like her
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house full of roles and roll
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all the different carpet you know what
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mr. Phelps should have done I don't tell
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mr. know what to do because that's
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probably racist did mr. fenell it the
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pastels w I think if what he should have
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done is you know what should have done
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one of those on mr. hand type situations
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pulled up and it's probably really cool
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purple car and then taking book carpet
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store taking you in carpet store 48
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hours just folded his arms and stared at
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you through mimeograph stars as well the
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thing about don't want to lose you as a
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small swatches known as I would get is
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why is it in my carpet was somewhat
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carpet what was nice about the
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Smithsonian was that the Smithsonian had
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it divided up in completely separate
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buildings right so there was the air and
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space there was the building that had
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the first ladies gowns that you just you
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didn't even have to go in I mean or or
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you could you can probably part of
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American history of the american
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musician okay here's the thing I've only
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been watching a couple times the
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American stuff pretty good i would say
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focus on Natural History and air and
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space and as you know John I'm not gonna
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I'm not good yeah was theoretically i'm
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not good at time management but I knew
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that every minute I spent looking at
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ladybirds gown I was not checking out
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like an Apollo right we're going to be
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x1 I was not seeing like the the Wright
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brothers you know hanging from the
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ceiling or whatever that remember the
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the whatever that you go to see the film
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where that your first person kind of
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flying movie where it goes off a cliff
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and everybody in the room gasps like an
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imax type situation yeah yeah but that
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was before I max existed you know my
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first time actually was to mount st.
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Helens now james cameron's titanic I
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think mount st. Helens a little bit the
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regional yeah that's true where you have
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that was about Gunther gable Williams
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who's come through cable will you
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remember that the dead lion tamer guy
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with the giant blond hair who is the
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star of Ringling Brothers for a really
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long time maybe I saw him from a
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distance
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yeah you probably a lot of tension to
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like who the Marquis character and
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rainbows of the first time axis it was
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him his children just doing things with
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animals but doesn't seem like something
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that would need to be I'm
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x yeah like that could be like a
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magazine really it seems like it's been
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super 8 things like you would have
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gotten a lot of the action like night
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riding a roller coaster that kind of
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thing i'm actually want to go to clown
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school I think you can think you know i
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don't okay all right did you want to go
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to clown school is that why you're
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bringing it up
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no I mean if I'd gotten a scholarship to
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clown school I want to turn it down if I
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could say I think you're contaminating
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two things that are very similar which
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is that the tiny silly school that I
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went to in Florida he was on the grounds
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of two of the Ringling Brothers homes
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and adjacent to the Clown College of the
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club also where it was also with the
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clown's went in the winter right because
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in summer they're up by their up in
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Wisconsin there's a triangle of the case
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a lot of clown cases are being tried in
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the summer and they can't be adjudicated
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how to sarasota that's not i think that
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was in the Magna Carta the clown a lot
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clowns you know pee-wee herman will pee
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wee herman used to live the used to live
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in sarasota heavy cloud influences that
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where he got arrested for masturbating
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in a movie theater
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yes and it's one less it's what led to
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are mugshots happening in the exact same
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room just a couple years apart i'll
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write your famous mugshot god I loved
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that mug shot I'd love to know more
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about what really happened in that
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theater i still think him something with
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some kind of a jamup III don't know
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something so what happened he was he was
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he was yanking even in Porton but what
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shoes should have been playing Chinese
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checkers part myself should be playing
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checkers
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what should have been doing it while he
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was in a point of theater is an exercise
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in restraint should have been hitting
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some of the paddle with a star on it
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what does he didn't know what he was
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doing theater they masturbate
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this is the thing about the cops who now
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you don't have as much experience with
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the copses as not as likely to rise
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literally physical letting you live next
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door to the police but they haven't any
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release they have never grabbed you and
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pushed up against a wall
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i'm guessing but here's the thing about
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the cops they sit around and and and and
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they they have seasons there's these
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seasons of the cops right where it's
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like when it on a song
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yeah the seasons of the cob secretary
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Jack something
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look please continue I you know I i
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think i see Donovan all the time now on
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my facebook because I'm facebook friends
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with Ione Skye who shot the ones i grew
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up in the video
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yeah yeah you know my band had a song
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called Diane Court really yeah it's
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actually one of our pretty good songs
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well I only married Bentley the
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Australian is much Mary I thought she
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was married to a beastie boy she dated a
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bc board but she married Ben Lee who's a
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loser friend of mine from the musical
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Bentley the guy we did the Pixies the
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thing that guy yea he's using adorable
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what does he know it's like 1600 using
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he's a great
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he's a great songwriter a very nice
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fellow and he and and I love your songs
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i love that married huh married and they
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got married in india in a traditional
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Indian ceremony because ever since
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Donovan went over with george harrison
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and the beatles to the Mari she he has
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PS continue to practice Maharishi ism I
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guess he stuck with it after Pete
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Townsend know because the other with the
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other guy Beach Boys was Mike love and
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the beatles right and donovan and he
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stuck to come back and make love at some
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point and I thought my god of the five
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shares i'm sorry please computer but
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anyway so i oniy is at hand and Ben now
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I mean may like have the dot on the
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forehead and the whole business little
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9i think so I mean I don't think I i
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don't know i don't know for sure but but
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but that's how they were married but
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anyway i see so I see Donovan all the
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time but we're talking about it guys
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josh is a lot of threads here I'm gonna
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need some kind of Ben Franklin visit you
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so first of all de i think a lot of
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people to understand that despite your
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varying degrees of modesty and success
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you know lots of famous people you're
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kind of famous in your circles you know
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a lot of famous people i'm one of those
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you say when you say zoo-wee we talk
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about zooey deschanel that's because
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you're kind of friends with her
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we're not going then haha i know yet to
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be vetted right but i want to be clear
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that you're not just reading your not
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me any special messages
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you called me from jail and said you
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need to be just bailed out whether you
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she was like she would not bail you out
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she's refusing correct
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uh-oh i don't think i ever tell you what
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the cops punk into that so you're
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telling me
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so you were you know what you remember
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that dude put out all those rock and
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roll family trees i think there's one
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guy that made all those awesome rock
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family trees is a really good one for
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big stars the one somebody tried to do
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that with the Seattle music scene but
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the problem of those is there it's
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always it's always a the Friends of the
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there is a battle Robert is really
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remember these that is really other than
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the old ones were great but the Seattle
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rock family tree like the center of the
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EMP it's a huge thing but like they're
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all these bands that no one's ever heard
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of it's just that the people that made
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the diagram is green river want to drop
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that's the best name to drop Green River
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sonics reduced Green River produced
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members of Mudhoney and also a pearl jam
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or jam yeah okay he's not hungry he's
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not hungry is that right
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he's going hungry i'm not on we're going
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hungry just going hungry i will want to
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haul around here or grabbing y'all
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coming yellow sun that's a better
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surprise left your girl portrait
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murderer hero diet letting the play
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that's like--that's like a double J to
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make fun of pearl jam in Seattle because
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they're wonderful guys I get that you
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told me this troubles with the upass
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with happily who you pals with I'm not
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pals with any of them but but but I
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spicy them around and they're super
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supportive and nice guys I'm any better
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is a nice guy when he when he does it
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down if you take him to 13 coins Danny's
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wherever that he's gonna he's gonna dial
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it down only guessing he has to dial it
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down he's always pretty mellow I'm
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really intense
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he seems like Bono meet teenage fanclub
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hair don't
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maybe when he was 21 but he's playing
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his mid-40s
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he's now and he's a mellow duty likes to
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surface all this nice i'm glad ok I'm
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glad for that I'm we're getting the
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threads are gonna make love card here at
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this is a mistake early years ago I made
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fun of the hold steady
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oh my god you're kidding I mean why did
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you give something like that I made fun
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of the hold steady and in cmj magazine
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or something i said that they I said
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that they sounded like they sounded like
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a bunch of guys on coffee break at a
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software company is based in captivity
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fake fake singing the employee manual
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yeah a bit in the style of blue springs
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oh my god no in fact I think I said you
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guys really nice because that in the
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style of John Cafferty in the beaver
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Brown Bag covering Bruce brings too much
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the clock baby clock the punch
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I'm gonna have to find me after my
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clocked out lunch and ever since I ever
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said something that was pretty good huh
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that was nice and it's nice you start a
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band you should call bacon right back
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but I I ever since i did that what I
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what I did that day in making fun of the
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whole study was that I I kind of a
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little eliminated the possibility that I
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could ever be offended by anybody
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leaving an anonymous comment about how
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my band was playing on an Internet a
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message board right
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like like like I should never have W now
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your heart you're part of the problem
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its yeah exactly it's a so many so many
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musicians when you ask them about other
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musicians they say good luck to all
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bands i support everyone her a good
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times and I thought that for years and
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years I thought that was incredibly
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disingenuous because all those musicians
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say terrible things about each other
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behind their backs
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nothing like comics though at well I
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just almost as Batman comics are way
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more insecure the middle way but you
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know what you get a response i've heard
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that guy's he and Danielle her our big
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palace now I'm sure everybody they're
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all famous friends and everybody's
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friendly I know you're welcome off the
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latch on me you know I'm not that guy
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but I'm sure I'm sure that they I'm sure
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that that way
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what if the long winters come up in
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conversation those guys are like oh yeah
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that mr. fucking smartass guy you should
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eat not gonna get too deep for
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questioning our I got a lot to get
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I gotta get to love- 0 and document are
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you be telling me that you don't like
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hold steady almost killed me you don't
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like the record it's not really it's not
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your wheelhouse something I don't like
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it but I mean I was frankly and I know
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I'm going to get a lot of angry she's
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getting scarce but I don't like Bruce
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Springsteen oh boy ok here's it i just
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don't feel like you don't tell me you
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know like Andy's room
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he's a very nice man ok support his band
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has a vision
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there's a lot of good drumming and stuff
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that happens one of my favorite Bob
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Dylan songs at done working I'm sorry
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let's take a step back John is Bob Dylan
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okay do you like everybody know I do
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like Bob going are you sure you don't
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want to just go with my like some bob
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dylan don't know it grew on me it took
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me along the street I'm gonna go I just
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like the early Bob Dylan I understand
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Bob doing now and I like Bob Dylan very
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much nobody understands i don't like I
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don't want nobody understands the
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contrary I understand Bob Dylan in one
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of the movies i think not the pennybaker
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1i think in i want to say in the martin
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scorsese one but i forget i look this up
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on youtube for our extensive shows you
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enjoy our show notes you know the show
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notes for the show are better than the
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show thank you
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good you guys to show notes and we don't
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even need to broadcast this podcast you
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should just you show you should talk to
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me for an hour and then just write your
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impressions
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I'm trying to evolve as a person
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published over the first time alignment
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you're harming me on many many levels
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means but this is one scene and I'm told
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this is not what it looks like but you
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know the song uh let me 20 no limit and
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sunsets and I know the song love plus 1
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by haircut 100 so I don't have a dream
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it's like uh huh something I mean you
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just you just played the course to sweet
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Jane how that would be on see
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yeah keep going
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oh I don't like when I got to candy says
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you like that one
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I'm sorry and I'm gonna solo
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ok no no stop stop stop until the show
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this until the show starts up right now
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ok so hot god this is what we're gonna
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lose people there's one sitting like
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music people love music I see my problem
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is I'm not I'm very very very close
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I've never been placed the guitar guy
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i'm getting close skype jam
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I don't know I just get a little bit of
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a skeptic I played along with crazy
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train over skype yesterday and I'm
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several you feel bad about right now
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let's get us there like wider and wider
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Merlyn stopped the skype jam this was
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epic those people had fish I mean people
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will listen to anything you find this
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but you don't do this i'm talking about
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you know that's not me a little as long
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as it sounds like every other Dylan song
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i believe hide its see now where he's
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sitting there and I office right now
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doing is doing is listening to this and
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he's like I was gonna ask that comes out
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like spinning R&B record now what about
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little Steven you like little Steven you
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enjoy this with randos most guys don't
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spin their own records that's all
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computer programmed American thing Casey
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Kasem no no the little steven and Bob
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Dylan those TV those radio you're saying
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they need a little spots in between that
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yeah they sit in front of Mike they
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talked for half an hour and then
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somebody else cuz i don't see little
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Steven doing that because you think he's
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authentic because you're Bruce
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Springsteen fan and you think those guys
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like with and they live in a warehouse
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somewhere i just want to be clear cuz
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I'm about to open a new deck of cards
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are you trying to get you trying to get
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me to tackle the authenticity you big
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fucking John fucking rocks right now is
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working on a motorcycle somewhere and
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some girl comes in any and offers him
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like a Khloe my happening
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God in heaven authenticity are you is
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this how we're gonna roll we're gonna
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roll Los Angeles underwear tailored for
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him i'm sure there's don't have a single
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pass on the word I some french guy
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that's like tailoring is underwear
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here's the barrel here's the fish
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fucking shut up I didn't mean that
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here's what I want to cut dammit i had a
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point to make and I got Liza Minnelli
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and we still got bad words words better
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bad words i got into cards that has bad
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words ok come back to this we should say
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more bad words to people okay we still
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do bonus offer for the love of Christ I
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god damn it everyone I talked to on
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these programs is making me angry
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Mike love all you guys got can be like
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guys with mike love
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oh my god i would the thing is and I
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don't have a lot of money John i have
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almost no money but i would take
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whatever i've gotten hire someone who
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never stop kicking him in the balls for
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eternity
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I just I think that he should just
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there's any ideas fucking face I want to
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just but for eternity you're talking
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about not that's not a that's not a
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higher that you can do with money is
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here is that the more you bounce
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Transcendental Meditation get the one
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david lynch does oh that's where you fly
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yeah don't you balance reply that's fun
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to watch it watch on youtube you ever
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seen the flying soon fly so there was a
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period in i'm going to say 1965 where I
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you know 50 dispute this but like there
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was pretty much nobody cooler than Bob
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Dylan in the true sense maybe like
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there's a point probably more like miles
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davis was cooler at some other age you
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don't mean but like there's this period
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there was nobody cooler than Bob Dylan
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because the Beatles now I don't like the
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you're pretty cool didn't feel like I'm
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gonna throw out of the weird one here
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but like mike scott walker like Scott
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that guy is on his own planet i do not
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get him he's gorgeous and had on cage
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attributed that have you seen that Scott
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there's a turn another turn it
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completely mind-blowing 65 I'm saying
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nobody was cooler than down there was
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this period around the time of the I
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don't not don't look back
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so it's called was the one where does
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subterranean homesick blues
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yeah yeah that one and then I seen it
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just seemed room there's a scene in a
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room there's people floating around and
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still make me reveal how little I really
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know about no it's okay i'll always be
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over before you know it always cover for
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you say no thank you
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it's like I've always said though you
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know and those days we set sliding down
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the street from the American dream
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yeah ah he's just in a room he's got the
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sunglasses on but it doesn't look good
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he's fucking Bob Dylan he's got the cool
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hair and sit around and you're not
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trying to be cool he's just fucking Bob
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Dylan he can't help it and sits down
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he's trying are you getting any ideas I
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don't think I think he used to i think
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is a point now where is good and mad
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he's mad by 65 he's already mad okay
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pretty bad by them but the thing is heat
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breaks so many rules of cool today or he
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you know what I mean all the things were
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you and I will go out God get that guy
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fucking get that guy out here comes in
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the room he's aloof he's got the
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sunglasses as pal Donovan is there is
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maybe tom is there i remember but the
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point is that simple he sits down with
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an acoustic guitar and and just start
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strumming I'll love minus zero and
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you'll know the song the instant your
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Madeline's in those anything rather than
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like the hour than somebody and then
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I'll he says it didn't and you can see
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everybody in the room is just wrapped
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yet again and seriously watch this scene
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you're just like oh my god this song is
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fucking perfect it's so good at this is
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the shot they cut away to this shot of
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donovan and I've been told this is not
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what it looked like but the Ottoman
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sitting there and if you can imagine
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leaning forward smoking a cigarette with
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the scientists fake smile you've ever
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seen another kind of really tense almost
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like bobbing back and forth fake smile
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is looking cigarette mr. Donovan you
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know he's got mellow yellow and talking
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about bananas and shit but but like
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Dylan's just sitting there effortlessly
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playing a fucking three-chord he's
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basically playing Louie Louie except
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it's about the human soul and it its
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supply i just watched that are like God
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is so brutal to watch but anyway you
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know his daughter she tied you up until
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you get your video is Deirdre at a
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December show going uh out John I'm by
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spoke poorly I wat ya The Decemberists
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are their music their why December's are
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the Dillon to my Donovan Oh fucking give
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me a break then claim owner does dad
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let's look at you being serious i
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thought i do enjoy their you enjoy their
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don't say a bad thing about the december
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and I said you know what I enjoy their
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music I've been hearing Mumford & Sons
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everywhere I go
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recently said that shirt Eddie Murphy
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we're seeing a movie not a Mumford &
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Sons is this it's this band
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but he should talk about for a year I
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and and I i made a record last winter in
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in the UK and one of the guys on the
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record was one of the guys from Mumford
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& Sons at the time I have heard and I'm
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like I think it's another name you're
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making out so we made this we made this
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record called Mount desolation with the
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some English guys and some other
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American guys and then mumford and sons
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became like the biggest band in the
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universe and checks out for instance
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yeah and and they sound they sound like
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a like the December's if you took most
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of the character of the decemberists
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away and just distilled it down to the
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bits basic elements but these guys are
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these guys are massive they're like
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headlining really acid festivals and
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inoculated won lots of awards their
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English very big band i believe i
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believe that they are friends with the
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g's to also replaces G's which the
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cheese okay I'm going to rei is that a
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short name for says it could use special
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son is that rapper the jeans like jwo
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not Jeezy not little cheesy
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ok you have nothing to do a little way
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in the puppy pussy papi what's up and
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the genes from the seamless well is the
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in-laws like g apostrophe s no there's
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no GM it je easy
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geez that's not a band that sounds like
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something out that like like Don
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Kirshner will come up with for a cartoon
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no no he is our Lord and favorite the g
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alright they used to teach about him in
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public school before they secularized
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Christmas and turn it into a winter
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holiday it's really confusing
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ok I unlost don't you talking about i'm
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completely confused I'm gonna look up to
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Jesus got Frank careful careful careful
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do not present ever tell you how to
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pronounce unless you want to know what
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is this is a life hack you want to know
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that II
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yeah yeah check it out here is that ok
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here's the deal you got the diaeresis i
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pronouncing that right muah muah
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ok so you've got that over a letter ok
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so that could be over almost any kind of
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letter could be over you could be over
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and I've never stood the end is near
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think it's no I think you have to be
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over a bowel right i mean you can't just
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put in unless you're doing joke yeah
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metal thing yes correct
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okay seriously crew ok good example but
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if in which i think that obviously
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made-up one but now say the letter that
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soon loaded looks it
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you-you-you-you ok but now say it was
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shaping your mouth the way you would say
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an e you don't overthink it just do it
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you have boom that's how you do it you
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make it eat with your mouth but you say
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the letter trying to eat with your mouth
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and you say the letter so you Cee
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announced that sau e-jets how you do it
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that's a lie fact i should write a
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fucking book
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you sure you should go on the internet
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do you like Bob Dylan I do like Bob
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Dylan but here's here's there's always
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Jesus there's always another city from
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you use semi-colons at all not really
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are you i love something so CII
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everybody says Richard Hugo Hemingway
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they also don't use some i love
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semicolons use any problems getting it
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makes my life is my life any sense of
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order although you have to remember with
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a semicolon not you can't just like
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throw some sentence fragment on the
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other side of a sentence colon and call
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it good i think it's what i do i think I
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literally do that literally there's kind
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of a sentence fragments on there that's
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the prob what about an em dash teasing I
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really ever use em dashes to use em
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dashes I like em dashes I you know one
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of the things I've started doing is
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using asterisk TSA's asked her eyes at
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the french comic strip ski accidents no
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excuse excuse excuse excuse an American
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comic strip astrix is the is the Belgium
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and this has nothing to do with rent an
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no but I use astrix is because because
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apparently it's some kind of HTML code
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for bolt is a bold and italic you write
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you a check your writing markdown look
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at John I saw some how you use it to to
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reference to 22 I i use it for a while
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because there's no way to use italics
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and you want to type in caps and then
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after a while I just like it
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I'm just like Oh doesn't dress it does
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yeah it does but anyway here's the
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problem with my thing about bobtailing
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it's my problem with the thing about
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everything you can
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here's the thing about your problems is
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signing I think it's not actually a
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problem it's a problem that i have not
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with Bob Dylan but with other people
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which is that there are so many fans of
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Bob Dylan the benchmark being a fan of
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Bob Dylan is set so high people that
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know every war on Bob Dylan's ass and I
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don't care about anything that much I
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don't give a fuck about anything as much
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as somebody who's not even in the top
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40th percentile of Bob Dylan fans you
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know what I'm saying
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so I I mean this constant I'm this
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constant problem when people say are you
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a fan of warrant reverter hurt sobbed
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and I go yeah sure they're like Oh
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remember that scene at the beginning of
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the movie that no one's ever keep that
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your fuse Nick I get it's like your
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country and your refusenik it's it's
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that I'm it's that i am here it is here
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it is i'm going to say it in simple
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words as possible okay i am not a fan
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period it's not that I'm not a fan of
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Bob Dylan it's not that I'm not a fan of
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of of you know like totality arianism in
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the in the nineteen thirties I'm just
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not a fan
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i'm not a fan of anything i am a i'm an
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observer of things i'm an appreciator of
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things but i do not my appreciation of
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things never rises to the level of
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fandom okay about anything except maybe
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the causes of World War 1 i'm a fan of
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talking about the causes the potential
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causes of World War one who so i think
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that's it the Scottish man and his
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friend are certain and reference for any
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man so that was in the Guffin it's so
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far down the line of causes the world
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exactly
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okay what about the main MacGuffin with
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her MacGuffin the main when they don't
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think the man that was all that was all
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exactly it was nothing but it's like
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it's like walking on the moon it didn't
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let me the main was just a quitter so
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fucking hard i eating a fan of Bob Dylan
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I'm just not a fan i'm not a fan of
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anything except for the except for
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talking about the cause of war
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yelling about semantics you seem pretty
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pretty tiny well technically fucking
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thanks a lot of yelling it's around and
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yelling about semantics help you at all
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day and night I semiotic CD semiotic SAT
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all your bars and half-and-half on
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semiotic Nikki tell the difference
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I'll house it i'll sit in a room and
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talk about I used to sit in a room and
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talk about guitars and amplifiers with
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the guys that I thought were otherwise
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boring but they could talk about guitars
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what else in my family you know one
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thing i like about you
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there's not a lot but I mean one thing
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from you pick this up or just at the
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point my life when I want to stop being
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curiosity about other people and and
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other ideas themselves is so much like
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whenever you meet anybody you know you
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talk about Neil Young and how obvious
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reasons your kind of move
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what do I say yeah and like us to talk
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about model trains
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yeah you know and this is my thing I it
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took me years to learn this but and I
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don't know enough to be useful for you
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but when I meet people
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this is actually true i mean people the
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last thing the world I want to talk
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about is me I talk about myself all the
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I'm really good at it and probably
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better than you are i would like to talk
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about you talk to the driver thing this
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is the taxi driver
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problem you get into a car with a taxi
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driving like one day real rain is going
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to come and wash all the scum off the
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streets
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no no no not that well let's not get
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into fandom let's talk about how you
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like taxi drive your light your world
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has gotten very small John the right
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there you get into a cat on John's a
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small world after all the guy the guy
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macat the guy behind the steering wheel
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is true
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they're retreating or ethiopia and you
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don't want to mix those two up you don't
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know they are you the opians from online
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from Eritrea vermont new hampshire
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greece and turkey exactly you don't want
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to screw around but but
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so you start in the guys like oh you say
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where you from any goes to retrain your
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tray and Eritrea John in any case i'm a
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stance you start asking him about oh
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well were you there during the War I
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mean how did you feel about haile
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selassie etc etc and you realize all of
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a sudden that this guy all day long all
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he's doing is driving people around
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he's told the story of how he feels
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about higher velocity 1,000,000,000
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times he doesn't want to talk about
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himself he wants to talk about you you
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want to talk about the sports teams or
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something
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who is it you have the taxi driver
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problem you don't talk about yourself
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anymore i think you get to be 40 45
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years old and you've talked about
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yourself enough you've told every story
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100 million times who just not
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interested in yourself anymore
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yeah I think you can be i mean this any
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less I know you're not fan and you're
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not a fan of Mick Jagger or a fan of P
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towns and then I but you know the two
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classic examples hope I die before I get
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old not you know and somebody calculated
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you know how many times Mick Jagger has
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song like satisfaction
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yeah which is a really good song its
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realy terribly terribly overrated song
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even first down song it's a good song
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it's it's not nearly as good as rocks
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off like that a lot of songs that I
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prefer you know I know how to play
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exactly one stone drifted ever tell you
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that you play smoke on the water who um
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which one which version live version by
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travelpod member
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where am i exactly one stone and refine
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oh yeah that's exactly one week but if
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you know that you're pretty much set
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I top where
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that's a pattern also not a report on to
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be good okay uh not you know there is no
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no do you think the challenge your
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no I was just I was gonna pick up with
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no I'm not you know I'm kind of fucked
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up today I changed a few things around
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I had some leftover chili main and some
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mineral water some things around huh
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and some noodle water no I'm Simon's
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gonna get chinese neighborhood for too
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long if you're drinking doodle water
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well I think that's just ping-pong talk
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i had some leftover Charmayne and
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additional point to this
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i I'm so angry about so many things
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right now so i want to turn that into my
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club now Mike love ya you really want to
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talk about Michael of God he's such a
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I don't even know what I mean the thing
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is an anus in the butt of life
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ok but here's the thing there's a
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certain kind of like inert second guy
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we've talked about this right there's
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the inert other guy
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yeah right like a you know John Oates
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made his contributions
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absolutely Andrew originally I'm sure
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and religious originally had notes that
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hello Andrew Ridgely is married to the
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foxy one from Bananarama why do that
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what and they live enough they live on a
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farm in southern England then they just
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like milk the chickens or whatever
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people do on it yes
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chicken clucking and it's andrew
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ridgeley and the Fox you want from
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Bananarama machinery got the she got the
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wrong one
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well I mean if you're gonna marry one
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guy from Wham
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yes and it makes your girl your girl and
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you want to marry one guy from where am
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I think you picked the right that's the
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engine that will turn over and he's also
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i mean i-i don't know like what his
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publishing arrangement was with when but
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i think he got some songwriting credits
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on some of that stuff even I went the
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lamb records
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yeah i think she'll sell to I bet they
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do I back together compilations about
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some of those Bananarama records so
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alright and some other good i think
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they're just they just they milked the
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chickens and then they drive real fast
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on those rules don't get off track but
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ever thought how things might change if
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you hook up a stock Aitken Waterman have
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you thought about that all have you
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thought about other producers i'm not
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talking about i understand is what I
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felt right to speak
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you don't talk about the bouquet you
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find these guys
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somebody not very long ago that Cameron
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Crowe was a fan of the long winters
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to bury my and he's the one who did say
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anything with a nice kind of my band
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with a song about that's right that's
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correct
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thank you i can't i can't call Cameron
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Crowe i'm not even going to tweet
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cameron crowe and say hey how's it going
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man mixtape that mixtape movie i'll
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probably come up and it's gonna be
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awkward at him was at him or large front
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rear who made that terrible movie I
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don't think it was I don't think he made
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the mixed in cameron crowe but uh but
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but a but it's one of those things where
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can I and he just made up of you that I
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haven't seen yet for maybe won't see but
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but I clamor here was a jump in here
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from it's one of those things you hear
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it in the bin there he heard through the
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grapevine in the entertainers word on
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the street is where i was driving camera
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cronies a big fan of your music you know
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not all black music like not just song
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but he like has the knows he knows the
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records down because you know he was
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married to an esky no wait I know this
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heart and and wilson from hard nipples
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man feeling some out women always Nancy
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Nancy is the one like Bananarama girl or
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the skinny one from Wilson Phillips
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right just good one she's the good one
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well although i think that Ann Wilson
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down a very talent is very talented and
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also frankly if but it if you took me
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back to nineteen seventy-six and asked
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me which one I would pick it would it
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would finally found something
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interesting to talk about its
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everybody's gonna save it for the each
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other way Wilson Phillips to I don't
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like the skinny girls John this is gonna
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be perfect this is gonna work out great
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but speaking of Wilson's what I don't
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like Sheryl Crow there's nothing about
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truck was she ever married a camera crew
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no that would be weird she just she just
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take Annie often that you know in some
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cultures put me under your name you're
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married by counting crows like getting
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close now I heard them in the dentist's
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office so here's the thing i know about
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you John Roderick is that you uh like
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your relationship with jon wurster
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you're not gonna acknowledge the person
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you keep a distance you have a less lie
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out of the corner not unlike the way you
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look at an alien the mirror may not be
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there slide glance you
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not gonna go running you're gonna email
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cameron crowe no okay so what do you
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wait wasn't us Laura it's got to be up
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to him you gonna do you make off those
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deals i dunno i would why would love it
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if camera car would put along but
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there's a lot of people i was that
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somebody who was it somebody interesting
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had a song on you know was nick lowe
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nick lowe had a song on the bodyguard
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soundtrack Niccolo oh god that made him
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a blow that thing this is and if you go
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read is such an interesting guy and
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reading about him today he has chosen to
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do like three dimensions of himself or
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at least you know just a couple big ones
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yeah and he's made a big deal about it
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because he's pretty comfortable just
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from the fucking body parts proposes had
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a song on the the English teeth movie
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The what's-his-name national powers
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right accent power I don't think they
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had a song on that but they had a song
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on reality bites that is pretty well
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they still get crazy checks were kind of
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looking around song golden slumbers I
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don't know Paul opposing muscles on the
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sluggers all the numbers we think that
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first record you like you're 23 I do
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like it by you know that my relationship
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with proposes that I add that both guys
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are great singers and both are great
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songwriters but they saying they saying
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constantly on each other songs so that
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it was a condition of like they were to
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co-lead singers all the time it sounded
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like sometimes and I i actually like
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this in some songs I like this on some
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of the frosting on the beater tracks but
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sometimes it sounds like they have a
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really bats they're not getting anything
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in the wedges on stage and they don't
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realize how much louder they're singing
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in the other person i think what it is
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is that they're each taking really
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interesting harmonies off of the other
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guy and that it's a hit the that
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basically the two vocal parts are
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summing each other and it just sounds
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like now we can easily cancel each other
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out i gotta cancel each other out
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because one guy goes up the other guy
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goes down this is like ken stringfellow
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is great at finding the conventional
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harmonies but then like there's that one
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live record in France and I heard it
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there were that they do like I think if
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you surrender no one live poses record
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from France not you're not a fan
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ended up know something i'm not a fan
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it's that I got a fan not it's not that
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around presenting asterisks not a fan
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it's i'm not a fan in asterix this is
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hears the prayer it is i'm gonna break
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it down for you guys ready for this
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we're gonna get to make love or backward
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sorry well we can it will just put those
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in the hay the three by five card file
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here's the thing when when we were kids
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this is about the ghost look you
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understand me know
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