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the incomparable number 175 christmas
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welcome back to be uncomfortable
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podcasts are special flash cast edition
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meaning it's unedited unexpurgated we
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say stupid things and then you hear them
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we talk over each other and you hear
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that because it is Christmas and we're
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not giving doing the editing on
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Christmas in the incomparable podcast
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and contract and as we've done for the
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last several years were here very
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quickly talk about the Christmas episode
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of Doctor Who on the day that it air
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joining me I'm Jason smell your host as
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always i have four lovely guests David
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laura is here by David there Dan Morin
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is here I dan how many years will be
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doing this now too many years
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sooo many years what it's like it's like
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eight or nine years that doctor who's
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been doing it which it boggles my mind
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but wow really wasn't that long
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it's so it's been I don't think we I
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don't think we did a flash cast of of T
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david tennant's last episode I do
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believe we've done one for all of the
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mat smith specials so it's been awhile
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it's that it's already called well I
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heard you there hello yes I cannot
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believe that it's been three years of
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matt smith and and matt smith is gone is
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gone he's gone all right Pete and
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regenerated peace and that never happens
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and Scott McNulty is here hi Scott
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oh I thought this was the who cast about
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the flash so I'm woefully about the flag
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is this cindy lou who casts the button
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important here so who cast unfortunately
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that's flash gordon dr. seuss involved
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somehow about Flash Gordon yeah i mean
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the veronica was George about the flash
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earlier this makes perfect sense that it
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all comes together to bring it
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yeah that's what you do Scott that's why
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you're here try so well yeah so doctor
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who happened uh that this was the time
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of the doctor to go with the name of the
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doctor in the day of the doctor in this
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little trip th of moffitt eNOS as saying
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goodbye to matt smith i watch the BBC
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america version which is interesting
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because the last commercial break is at
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the worst possible moment
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that's always good where you have the
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climax and the shocking sudden
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resolution
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version of it that is interesting
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intercut with a bunch of commercials
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well gotta pay the bills wish they had
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cut it somewhere sooner than that so so
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Matt Smith is gone this is very strange
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I thought episode in terms that it is
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unlike almost every Christmas episode
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doctor who is done since Steven Moffat
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took over
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unlike any I think it Christmas
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Christmas seem to Christmas was in it
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because he he goes to a town called
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Christmas that is the Christmas macias
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place in the universe and and we have
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Clara making Christmas dinner for her
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family who have almost never seen that
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there they are
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but it didn't seem very Christmas we see
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to me it's it felt a you know just to
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start out it feels a little perfunctory
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to me like you know like some of the
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russell davis air especially smaller was
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like what's on Christmas i need to
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include a Christmas element but it's or
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didn't seem to be the point and in fact
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I thought that the the the fact that
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spoiler horn can I have a spoiler
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warning flash guess i don't know i hope
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it happened that the fatback should
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really lost you should really watch the
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episode the fact that that that
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Christmas Town is on trenzalore is a
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very strange connection of like oh it's
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this cute down a Christmas were the
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greatest battle in the universe and
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hundreds and thousands of people are
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going to be dead was the same place that
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seems very strange so any thoughts about
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just have the the Christmas e ness of
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this episode you know I thought it was
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strange but I actually love it i think
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it i have been kind of a sap for the
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russell t davies Christmas episodes
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where I kind of like the interest first
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and the holiness mixed with the
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outrageousness of oh it's Christmas or
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maybe not quite christmas is just a town
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called Christmas I I kind of like that
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that's acknowledged so blatantly
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actually where it's no it's July it just
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happens to be a town called Christmas so
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a also that we after several years of
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very very Christmasy episodes from
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Steven Moffat because we had you know
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what the christmas carol and the snowmen
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and was the other one was there another
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doctor the widow and a doctor with me we
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had a lot of really Christmassy episodes
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i feel like and so we sort of have you
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know I think he's got that out of his
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system and so we got something that was
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a little more doctor who even Christmas
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I guess
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david scott thought I was entertaining a
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politic silence haha i want all the way
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with us about all things christmas
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christmas on tonight
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I didn't mind that the 10 was called
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Christmas i didn't see a point to it but
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that was about the only thing i liked
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the show
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oh wow you know Todd done but some
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foreshadows right let's get changed
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let's let's get let's get out there you
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know this was a yeah yeah David i would
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like you to talk a little bit about your
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feelings i think that's as it as a host
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i'm going to ask i'm going to probe a
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little bit back for more about your
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negative feelings about this because you
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know as everybody knows out there any
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cover we don't always just rained down
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love on individual episodes of Doctor
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Who I love Doctor Who very much but I
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know some episodes are not so good so
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I'm fascinated to hear what David has to
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say well you know I was i I rewatched
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the name of the doctor and the day of
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the doctor leading up to it just to you
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know get it all fresh in my head and the
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more I thought about it today because i
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watch the stream from the BBC so I I've
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had like nine ten hours to fulminate
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you're in England
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yes yes I am me and deanna England we
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call the dog Indiana and it seems i mean
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even though all three episodes are
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written by steven moffat they all play
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as if they were written by complete
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strangers all had a bunch of you were
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you know that the British trenzalore
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Gallifrey graves regeneration you know
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it was just T words there was disliked
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know through line to any of them there's
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no connection and translator is just
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sort of random here and there and
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Gallifrey is randomly here in there and
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you know as much as I loved the day of
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the doctor and I did that is easily one
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of my favorite episodes of the whole new
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series old series any of it
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this is the complete opposite for me I
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just all the goodwill
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all everything that made up for
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everything that I was dissatisfied with
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Moffat for a while
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it's all in this episode it's like oh my
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god what did you do
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can we at least agree that the time of
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the doctor greater than the name of the
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doctor because I thought that one was
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among the nadir before the series and I
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everything in this that harken back to
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that I was like oh yeah that episode
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yeah where they brought up a bunch of
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stuff and now they've kind of right
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Conda bunch of stuff that happened there
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with ya need to try and make a little
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bit more sense you know name of the
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doctor is just incomprehensible but then
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things in this I mean we've gone from
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impossible Clara saving all the doctors
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too clever Clara too clueless idiot
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Clara in this one you know she just he
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keeps tricking her in sending her back
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she's got a turkey to cook ok you know
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you don't know if I'd call her idiots
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clue no Clara she's not by a long shot
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she's serving a sound or narrowing oh
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right she is and he's there for support
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she's not super Clara right to say it
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but she's not supposed to be super Clara
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anymore tonight
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also the report the report in the last
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couple episodes since the name of the
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doctor has been clearly different
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between them like since we went into the
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whole Clara's the impossible girl we've
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taken her out of the time vortex and
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just you know a little more stable and a
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little more normal i like this Clara I
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think she's not necessarily as
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fantastical or as manic pixie is some
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people may be liked about her original
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characters and some people disliked but
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i like the way that they are shaping her
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like how they're shaping her i like when
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she decides to ask for help versus when
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she decides to go off on her own
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I think the night it's a nice touch of
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her basically clinging onto the TARDIS
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for 300 years while it tries to make its
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way back to the doctor and the fact that
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she looks you know very upset but at the
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same time you know what you're worth it
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it's I'm i signed up for for a task and
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I'm obligated to see it through
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did anybody else think she's gonna be
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really old when they would you give
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actually there was something about the
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whiting that almost from when
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he kept shooting her from behind while
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she's holding onto the TARDIS
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kinektron maker show that she was cold
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like she was like programs were kind of
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photos to meet her here to me your hair
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look gray and maybe it was just the
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coloring of what i was looking out but
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it was the Frog yeah but still it was it
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was I was like oh my god what if she
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turns around and she's president she's
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like 80 now said you know I mean I think
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that would be creepy twists I mean
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lockers been on there for 300 years and
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Clara is clearly a normal human girl
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possible
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not any more experienced a normal girl
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impossible possible
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she's at that point is that blood
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improbable girl employment no applause
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look at that point the thought I was
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just shaking my head so I mean I didn't
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I didn't buy anything that led up to
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that point so I wasn't buying the point
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no that's not that had some major
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problems with the whole oh we're so the
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spoiler horn with Scott off so you know
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the whole point of the Gallifrey is
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sending a signal through the crack in
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the universe that no one can decipher
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but you would think that they would want
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the one person they're sending the
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signal to to be able to decipher it but
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he can't decipher it a bunch of Superman
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she began head can so we can pause for a
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second because the Cyberman head is very
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very strange and I'm not really sure
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where that came from and I was really
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like to know i will not have any that
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anything Bad's said about handle sandals
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adorable i just don't know I was just um
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I'm just like to be there with ya in
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terms of the signal that made complete
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sense to me because the idea being that
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world and is long dead and everyone has
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basically forgotten Gallifreyan
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including the doctor himself
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all they know is that whatever this
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transmission is its filling them with
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dread which I mean if you heard a
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language that you were expecting to be
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long dead and maybe it was coded into
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you bye-bye all of your evil ancestors
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to be like hey if you ever hear this
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language again maybe run in terror
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because it might signal the end universe
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don't evil ancestors those so the Time
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Lords are bastards generally so is it
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really bad for
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the rest of the the races in the
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University not want the Time Lords to
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come back know what I mean that's what
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makes it kind of interesting to me is
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the fact that it's left and he's like
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it's left in that stalemate situation
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right where it's he's not bringing the
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back and he's also not you know not
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bringing you know he's guy he's the
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doctors kinda like the one guy standing
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in the middle there and I think he
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doesn't wanna bring the back in part
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because they'll get killed but in part
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because they're also damn jerks and
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we'll start the entire time we're all
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over again and i think the part that's
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what the prior episode to this the 50th
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anniversary episode kind of sets up is
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its Gallifrey is a horrible horrible
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place but there are also things worth
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redeeming about it and you know David
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thought that was step one in terms of
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Gallifrey can be looked on as a
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potential location a potential place for
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good again this is step two in i'm no
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longer willing to sacrifice Gallifrey
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because of what I have been through
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prior to this step three is do we ever
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see them get another chance and I think
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that's what the next season will really
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grapple with except for its profit
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actually I just want to say that when
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fleischmann has joined us now out here i
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think i heard breathing hello it it's
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just a model very well just thinking
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about started by going to stop the
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conversation I was thinking that the
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that you know everyone's afraid of
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Gallifrey who's afraid of the big bad
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Gallifrey but the problem was the whole
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point of the the end of the University
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episode was the Daleks of all destroyed
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themselves are going to love everyone
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blew up everyone else they think and
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Gallifrey is hidden somewhere but then
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you have this issue of the Daleks can
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never die so now you have this whole of
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previously you know seen reform Dalek
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army that's massive it has a huge amount
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of force and can bring in more and more
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reinforcements and all the bad guys this
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i remember there they apparently were
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never destroy even though we saw that in
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previous episodes was one cyber at left
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and so forth so we're left with all the
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villains back and in their full evil
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strength
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no I don't think they are at all
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actually I think I mean clearly they're
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they're back in there around but that's
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established in years and years of cannon
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it's you know these enemies will never
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truly die they're just slowly rebuilding
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themselves back up the Daleks are clear
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i mean if the Daleks we're at full
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strength the entire planet would be
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surrounded by Dalek armies instead we
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have maybe one or two ships of Daleks
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and one ship of what looked like
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hibernating Cyberman well but that's
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ridiculous then bring the Time Lords
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back in the blow a couple big ships out
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of the air and I mean I think that's the
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flaws like is it if there's not a
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massive Dalek army out there then bring
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back the full strength of Gallifrey and
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just what model phrase not at full
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strength either gal phrase I'm hiding in
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a pocket dimension for years and years
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and probably tell it wasn't anything
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there for example they got those people
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weapons and lasers and stuff so yeah
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you're talking about
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here's the thing about about the the
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dollars in the toilet is the dogs aren't
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going to disappear forever so the
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original sacrifice that the end of the
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time was very impressive because we
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killed them both but of course they
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couldn't stay dead so they brought him
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back and they got bigger and bigger and
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at which point you have this weird
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conundrum of well I sacrificed you know
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this damn the time-worn destroy the
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Daleks too but they weren't destroyed so
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why did i do that and I felt like the
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50th anniversary episode tried to undo
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some of that right i will say it where I
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agree with David is what I really liked
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about the 50th was it it's sort of put
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Gallifrey out there and said that's
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where I'm working and then I look at
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this episode I'm like really it's the
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entire plot device of the very next
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episode I was really disappointed by
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that because i was hoping i would be a
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new direction for the show and become
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out there and instead it just now I look
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back on the 50th and it actually devalue
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the little for me because now it feels
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like sort of a cheap set up for the next
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episode which is not at all what I was
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hoping for anyway
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but but I do i do take the point that
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you know it's an interesting place we
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get to where the Daleks if if he's got
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the ability to let the Time Lords out of
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the bottle which he wants to do well
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eventually but he realizes if he doesn't
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hear all that happens is the time where
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comes back so he's not here to do it he
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had a plot device you have to do which
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is they got they had to figure out how
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you get another regeneration without
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bringing the value our din yet last
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value is less to come in the Canon
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somewhere now I didn't know
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well there's a little talk about
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well you they mentioned him in the name
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of the doctors that was one thing I was
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sitting there thinking wait a minute let
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me know many of the value and already
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the values the post regeneration that's
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the lessee to lean mice between my
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twelfth and last which now goes on have
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remember exactly so it's it never needs
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to be dealt with the morning i'm not
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there for the master to write down
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everything her generation a freedom but
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river gave him one of her regeneration
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energy which was limited so we actually
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already did a regeneration just an
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account because it wasn't his own right
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we go around regeneration of the 10th
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doctor without his own that was
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something yet with the Dixie Mafia
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definitely had so here's here's the
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thing I i I'm mostly going to agree with
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David here as an episode i think this is
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work i think a lot of moments worked in
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it one of the things that bothered me
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about it though was I felt like Steven
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Moffat was checking boxes off and the
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regeneration thing he was checking that
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box off
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I think he wanted he wanted to clear the
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decks of all the sort of like loose
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threads of the Matt Smith era to the
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point where there's that scene in the in
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the haunted hotel episode where he looks
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inside room 11 and and sees what's in
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there his greatest fear and says of
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course it's you and then we never see it
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there's a flashback to that in this
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episode that shows that it's the crack
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because I said like check check check I
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want to close out all the loops i wanna
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i wanna mark everything off all he does
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he does all of that but you know it it
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just reinforces the old line that
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sometimes the mystery is better than the
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solution to the mystery because I felt
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like that was what we were watching as a
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writer checking off boxes but I was
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really really glad he did it for a
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couple things because that stupid who
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blew up the TARDIS thing has been
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sitting and I know remind me to isn't
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there was driving like either like well
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recently I was like you never explained
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that did they like it sends the
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officially licensed now but they're just
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priest and they're just priests anyway
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Clayton I love the idea of so here's the
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thing about the entire Matt Smith era
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and the plot of the silence and the
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great intelligence and silence of
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holland cetera
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I think Steven Moffat came up with a
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brilliant idea which is the you know
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there's this church and I skin at church
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has been friendly for the doctor for the
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long time
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I'm and then a schism of this church
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after seeing what happens at trenzalore
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discover decides no this cannot happen
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we're gonna go back in time and screw
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with the doctor to prevent him either
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from a ever getting to trenzalore be
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making sure he dies at trends lore and
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this you know the answer to this
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question is never had answered because
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we don't want Gallifrey to come back
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into the world when you look at his
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storyline literal linearly it's like oh
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man that's actually a really cool story
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the problem is he's been dealing it out
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and tiny bits and pieces throughout this
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entire season so we finally get the
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interesting you know in important parts
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in this episode where it's like yeah
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this is a church that the doctor was you
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know it vitally integrated with because
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we've seen them before we've seen them
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when the Angels first popped up
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we've seen them elsewhere too although
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they've never been named the sect was
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the sect that kidnapped melody like
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there's there's so many little bits and
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pieces that have been hidden truck all
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throughout this series but it's well no
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it's just the it just wasn't put
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together properly did this
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yeah i'm gonna get out there was a good
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pit that the fact that they always
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thought that the silence was trying to
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portray itself as the good guys right
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there is a recurring theme of the
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silence as evil as they come across and
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as sort of cruel and unpleasant and and
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sadistic that they actually see
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themselves like no no we're saving the
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universe here like we were were awful
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awful people but the point is that
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you're going to destroy the universe and
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we're not having any and that was kind
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of in that was sort of reaffirmed here
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in a slightly nicer way
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well I kind of agree with Ren that I
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think this story looks it looks good
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from like 30,000 feet
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the problem is if usually not any
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particular point the execution kind of
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falls down at it it's like I mean like
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going afterwards I was like reading the
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wikipedia articles trying to remember
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all these various like things that
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happens like that's kind of cool that
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there are these tiebacks to all these
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things and there is kind of a long
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jesting plot when you look at it from
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like zoomed out but i agree that you
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know on am less macro level when you're
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actually in those episodes a lot of them
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don't go as well as you would hope but
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did fail whatever makes go ahead never
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anyways okay that never at any point did
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of something that had been set up
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it felt to me like those were just
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didn't mean honestly it felt a little
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bit like this is a writer who got taken
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by surprise about the quick departure of
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his star and felt need to wrap
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everything up in an episode and i don't
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think the facts bear that out and yet it
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felt like that like like this wasn't on
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him the master plans final act so much
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as I want to I want to tie up some loose
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ends in passing for the fans on my way
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out and and that was gonna be my other
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larger point about this is i oftentimes
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when this since they've been doing
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Christmas episodes of Doctor Who there's
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a lot of criticism those episodes
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because they're these big loud
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spectacles and their emotional and
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there's explosions and at the end you
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know everybody's had a good time but
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it's not like it there can be kind of
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runaround and they're just kind of fun
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and and what shocked me about this
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episode is that it's just totally not
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that it this is a for the fans take off
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all the boxes resolve strange plot holes
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and I and I think a regular kind of more
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casual viewer who's watching this
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especially you know on the BBC on on on
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christmas eve and christmas night is a
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would be like what the heck was that in
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contrast to the most of the previous
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episodes it just felt very very much
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like it was about fans and continuity
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and the show itself and that's you know
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that's fine it is a regeneration episode
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but it surprised me that it didn't make
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more of an attempt to have a story that
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held together more than just by the fact
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that you can go oh that's why it said
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silence will fall on oh that's why
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Madame Kovarian was bad and now it's
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that crack man but did this kill us that
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like if I mean so the the day of the
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doctor was so good i mean i-i don't die
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what's on the flash caster that everyone
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hated it
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no it was so good and i loved i thought
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it was developing it was be it was
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beautiful and the cinematography even
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like it felt like a movie and it was big
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in scope and it tied up a million loose
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ends and it didn't drive us nuts even
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that weird weird Tom Baker thing in this
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one I'm like oh they brought back Amelia
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for like just a little like by like all
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come on it's always we are not that was
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beautiful and it was the best thing that
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I've seen was the best thing in the
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entire pie how is ours and
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9 I did not like that when we were young
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we don't worry probably died again why I
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like maybe comes out it was not there
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was time he beginning yeah yeah
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to be perfectly honest Jason I agree
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with you in a large part in that it
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doesn't it does not feel like a
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resounding and our episode but i think
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that was his intention i think that
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Moffat was looking at this as alright
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this is the send-off to matt smith and
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it's going to be beautiful and it's
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going to incorporate all the former
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enemies and we're gonna tie up the the
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story thread because we're finally going
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to find out about the silence and we're
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going to find out why his name is the
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most important question in the universe
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because really when you think about it
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throughout the previous seasons of the
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show you're like really his name really
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but here it actually makes some
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semblance of sense
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the problem is in the execution like I
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liked this episode and I thought it was
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fun but as a as an arc tire it didn't
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really work as you know anything more
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than a collection of beautiful moments
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it didn't quite work
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I like that we're seeing more of Clara I
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hope that we'll see more of her you know
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in her you know competent self in future
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episodes but I think Moffat as you said
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Jason you know kind of looked back at
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this entire storyline is like well i
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tried to do something big and ambitious
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and it didn't quite work out the way I
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had planned it so but we still need to
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give it a good send-off and we want to
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move into stage two which is all about
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Gallifrey and I really don't think also
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that I that this sort of introduction
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Misty's of Gallifrey was just the entire
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payoff that we're going to see what did
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the doctor
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no no I mean like I don't even think
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that it was supposed to be so much like
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we're gonna blow our wad so soon after
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showing all of this it's very much a
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here we just want to make sure that you
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understand that Gallifrey is not going
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away anytime soon that we didn't just
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bring in Gallifrey for day of the doctor
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as a like look we can do really
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beautiful epic stories but never going
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to mention it again for 10 more episodes
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I think Moffat really wants to keep make
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sure viewers understand that the world
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is changing and the scope is changing
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its not just going to be little mini
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arcs about you know Daleks for three
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episodes or Cybermen
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three episodes we're going to delve into
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a giant more unified connected universe
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and I'm really excited for that
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assuming he can pull it off i did--like
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i think that i was surprised to find out
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what the what why there was a question
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the question and answer finally made
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sense like why is the question Doctor
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Who I like oh it's a password because
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it's the only thing in the universe that
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the Time Lords could actually rely on as
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something that only one person
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ostensibly nose in a river song or
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something maybe Clara and that memory
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was erased from her
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I thought clear was about to go over and
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get the recovered memory from the
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journey to the center of the TARDIS and
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say oh it's you know it's Phil Phil
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Jones and you know a little letting that
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she wouldn't let in the the Time Lords
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though because she knows that is not
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what the doctor ordered
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she's there to save the doctor and she
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didn't dr. even though her timelines a
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race because she never went to
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trenzalore and got into his timeline so
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it's time that timeline still exists
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that time I mean hurt her prime timeline
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still exists yeah but she has never
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jumped into whether some future point he
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comes back and it comes back again and
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this is crazy but here's the thing Scott
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our IT expert can tell us about the
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wisdom of using your name as a password
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for anything let alone the uniform right
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i did when i was watching this I thought
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that's an awful password
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well I mean the password destroys the
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University Ansan you know I mean from
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from the beginning since he's been in
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charge of muffins just love doing the
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little doctor who ya jokes which I and
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every time I've wanted to throw
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something at the TV and you had you know
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what 46 years where we managed to not do
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that and now every other week he's
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making up for lost time that he needs to
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that door you know it's like I'm seeing
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him do this it's like oh don't do it
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don't do it and then of course he keeps
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getting it you know building thinking
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more about the bright side man he's
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gotten it all of his system no probably
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not everything's good but you know it's
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it's really exciting that he's got
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Gallifrey but then he's basically put
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Matt Smith's doctor in stasis for 300
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what kept you know you know well i
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managed to solve this impossible thing
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in the last episode with all 13
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mean for all 12 incarnations well all 13
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really i was 10 and now this time he's
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just gonna stay here for 300 years what
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do you think something he thinks he's
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I don't see it but I don't want his part
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no of course but i mean i think the
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doctor at some point is when he realizes
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that it's Gallifrey with that moment
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work early on when when the Cybermen is
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like Gallifrey seeing Matt Smith's face
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fall is Paris second only to the what
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planet is this trenzalore where it's at
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step one of him just basically like
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being like run this is this is important
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and this is a problem and of Gallifrey
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is back then i'm going to have to deal
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with a lot of problems will be soon not
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imagine it's like my everything caught
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up with me kind of like I've been
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running in keeping one step ahead of
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everything for so long and now we can no
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longer run but how does that connect to
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the last episode that ends with him
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going i'm gonna go find it
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did he did he found it it's great yeah
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it's right it's right here and now he's
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taking care of it with the only way but
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he knows how which is unfortunately the
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end of his life staying in one place
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guarding it from the onslaught of
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potential the universe's monsters
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waiting to crush his people he doesn't
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want to bring his people back but he
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doesn't want to just abandon him to die
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and other hand the village like how many
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people are in that village they keep
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getting killed and shot the building and
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Loan up and they just keep those are
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they make a worthy crossovers quiet
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Martin I think about coming this is just
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a metaphor for the war on Christmas
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yeah just keep in mind they should've
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run dismissed oh my gods gods but I'm
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yes found it now but he was hopeful at
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the end of the last one he was hoping to
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find yeah and so he finds it and he's
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depressed to put night I don't like
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solitaire found a surrounded by every
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enemy that he ever faced i mean i-i
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would be kind of the rest if I found my
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home like that to also but it's not
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hurting and the dollars on the table for
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one at a time folks the time just got a
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little more Killy as any kinda in the in
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the day the doctors killing all kinds of
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Daleks and so forth
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this one is like high every generated
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boom you're dead you're dead in the UU
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whole ship you're dead to it seems a
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little romantic dollars go and they're
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not how you know this but its shade off
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a little
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it's come you know usually save it save
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diverse at the end of you know drivers
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trying to destroy everything in the
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University reached out his hand now get
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your chance but after after nine hundred
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years he's tired as a crap and I did I
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didn't like the fact that Steven Moffat
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took the opportunity with a doctor
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leaving to say what I and obviously this
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is what he did he said what what can i
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do that i can't do in any other episode
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one of the things haven't been there for
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hundreds of years and get old because
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it's the last episode he's gonna
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regenerate at the end anyway I'm and so
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I thought that was a fun conceit that
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although it can't shave his head too
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yeah that's why not why not just for fun
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it's a wig which it was because his his
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wigs so they just have him wear a wig I
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you know bien yet and yet i will i watch
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the first 40 minutes or so thinking you
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know this is but this is so strange it's
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just like how did we end up here how do
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we end up with him forever in this town
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in this in a stalemate and maybe some of
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it was just like I I couldn't it wasn't
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that the idea of him being in a
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stalemate where he can't make the
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decision because all the options are bad
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was a bad idea it's just that the the
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way we got into it I felt like it was
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kinda like we stumbled into it and I
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felt like there were there were no
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decisions really being made it just sort
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of happened and now he was stuck there
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and yes to Rennes point the idea that
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the doctor could willingly you know we
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could not figure his way out of a
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situation for hundreds and hundreds of
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years also seems kind of crazy other
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matt smith seems to be you know the
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doctor who enjoy is taken some taking
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some leisure time off on his own so
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maybe this was his retirement he didn't
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you know he didn't want to go so he said
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and I'll solution Marysol there too
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yeah we also know that he kind of loses
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his head when it comes to Gallifrey you
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know who's never thought calmly about
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that just like your cameraman
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yeah i agree about the execution part
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where it comes to the idea that it i can
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picture an episode that pulls that
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conceit off much better in terms of
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feeling like you're entrench but in this
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one we keep popping back and forth right
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so there's not that feel
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thing because the the siege of it is
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condensed to you know montage
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essentially yeah
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whereas it could be a lot different if
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you were like you you know didn't have
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those constant pressure valve releases
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where we go and see Clarence family or
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go up to the ship to talk to the nun
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that you know if you really felt like oh
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my God we're in the trenches here and
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he's like staying here because this is
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the only thing he can do to keep these
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people alive and to keep the you know
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the Time Lords life i think that could
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have been pulled off a lot better i
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don't mind that the idea i just i think
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the execution
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that's all I was horrible at time travel
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or time ironically time travel
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he's been horrible at opposite sides
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that span a long time period pieces yeah
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he's facing his pacing goes all the way
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out the window whenever he's trying to
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do something epic look at a look at what
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was the first Amy and Rory one with the
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with the Pandora's box that was like
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lets span thousands of years and yeah
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anytime he employs a narrator you know
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that the episode is going to be weeping
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I was going to mention the narrator and
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say that I thought this was very strange
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because Tasha LEM the the mother
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superious not superior also known as
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mrs. Bishop from fringe
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oh yeah Walter bishops wife and Peter's
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much is the narrator here she's the the
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disappearance of the papal mainframe and
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i found that weird because it's a
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character we don't know she um she turns
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into a Dalek at one point and yet she
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comes back later in a Dalek again which
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also doesn't make any sense and and she
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continues narrating and then she just
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and then her narration stops at one
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point I found that I found that really
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bizarre because it was like trying to
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make it like a fairy tale like Steven
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Moffat has done with dr. had several
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points and I I don't mind that
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and yet it seemed weird really weird and
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inconsistent like it didn't it didn't
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really belong but there was no other way
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for him to get this to the story to make
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any sort of sense and and we don't even
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know who she is nor is it really reveal
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to she is and and the interaction that
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he has with her is also we felt to me
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like she's almost river song with the
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name changed which which seemed bizarre
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to me and I kept waiting for a line
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where she said well you know I'm
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actually just you know river song with a
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hologram projection or I'm the uploaded
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river song from the library in a you
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know you know it
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in the papal mainframe or something and
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there was just sort of nothing it's just
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kind of left there which was very seems
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a little bit the end at the end of said
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she gives a little bit about like she
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was almost a companion but didn't quite
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get there but you're right it's almost
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as if they'd written apart for Alex what
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you're facing an ATM
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thank you Alex Kingston and then decided
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not to cast her she can do it had that
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feel like I'm missing like in the day
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the doctors like something's missing
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here there's a piece because she's too
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familiar and he's both to enter an order
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enough it was wait and river got you
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know I thought rivers final scene in
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name of the doctor was great and that
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that was a good ending for her and if we
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see her again out of sequence that's
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fine I don't need to see her
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I think feel like that's our final death
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but but he just touched so that the
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narration was weird and the character
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was weird and which is not to say that
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the the character didn't do some
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interesting things but I you know that
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was one of those seasons they just stuck
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out like a sore thumb especially so full
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of thin characters though is like you go
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into the spillage they have a really
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good get the really hilarious exchange
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about the truth field and in the
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explanation of why there would be a
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truth field like okay i bought it i was
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not a great gimmick and then it's
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essentially totally dropped in the
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villagers are cardboard that get blown
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up after that point with little
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exceptions even you know Clarence family
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I'm like it's Donna's family it's the
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mother who's the Shrew is trying to get
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them married the grandmother who's all
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got folk wisdom and like Bernard
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Cribbins and so for someone like I
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didn't feel like there was any
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uniqueness in the family and the
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villages for backdrop and the and they
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added new characters in there so it i
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don't know and they really should be
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Clara and the doctor they kept
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separating them so kind of waiting for
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things to happen
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I just thought they lost some of the
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core there because it's not that he
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wouldn't keep trying to send her away
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but when they sent her away like four
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times or something I was relieved though
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that they did finally get the turkey out
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of there because i was waiting for the
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fans to be like a turkey is still cold
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nevermind connected the bone to the NICU
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now I don't like this game even her
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family is sitting there for 300 years
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waiting for her to come back i had when
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i saw handles I thought handles I was
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merely thinking Tommy know Tom Hanks
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it's well she is that the beautiful
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I just enjoyed the the exchange with the
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cart is irrelevant was like that better
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information in here
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that was my face of the interactions of
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the rest of the show I was like well
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they bonded there are those guys to
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think that the Cybermen are becoming
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more and more like the board which I
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know the border basement Cyberman but
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the seems like this coming into this
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weird nexus of cyborgs will be the
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sweetest joke but the Cybermen have
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always had problematic right so I
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thought that wasn't that wasn't bad to
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be like what can we do with them to make
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them there's def a dip some desperate
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move to make them more interesting i
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think i thought i did like that i did
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like the head and I like the wood
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Cyberman I don't like the woods and that
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was really a funny thing and and of
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course we know it doesn't work on wood
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right there's futurama episode which
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bender replicates himself in wood and I
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that was immediately my thought there's
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a wooden bender and I'm like are they
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know it's totally related only with i
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also did like the funny bit worried like
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shows up on the Dalek ship with the sky
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stock then you're like well that's funny
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that he's got the Cybermen head and a
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cyber mashup I was like okay I'm so good
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and it was good twice why is a Cyberman
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head like you know it's got sort of gets
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in here to pick up things that you've
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been traveling 400-year you because you
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didn't companion with a bunch of scary
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yeah i could just regenerate because you
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have never seen as Cybermen head by
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itself before they could assembly the
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entire planet
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wait we have yeah okay so at the end
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Matt Smith's the solution apparently to
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this this endless bitter standoff on
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trenzalore is that the that uh Clara has
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a firm i chat with the crack in the wall
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and tells it to do things think about
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how what it's done and do things
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differently and be nice to the doctor
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yeah and so the crack in the wall leaves
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and goes up into the sky and sprinkles
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regeneration magic on the dr. Parrish
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Christmas in which which he inhales nn8
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apparently give some new regenerations
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because they do not inhale Jason well no
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way I'm afraid he did
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I'm afraid of force the the fairy dust
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forced his way in there and he violently
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exploded as we saw David attended to and
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this explosion destroys like all the
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Dalek stuff that is attacking the planet
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and there's a big shock wave and who
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knows how many of the Christmas people
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survive but that's that's the big that's
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the big rescue
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should've made it part yes you did the
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cardboards all they could speak the ones
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ok tiny tim was fine time each other
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behind me why me why me time is finality
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so so that that happened advantage in
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which i did I didn't which I didn't love
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because I thought it was like a on one
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level was clever because it's like hey
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those explosive regenerations are
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finally good for something I thought
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that was kind of funny but that was that
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was that was that part was weird i liked
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when Clara goes back into the TARDIS I
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liked the rest of it I liked I i liked
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the the fake-out where we see Matt
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Smith's kind of clothes and stuff all
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over and we're led to believe that we've
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now seen him regenerated and Peter
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Capaldi is gonna walk out and it turns
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out to be young matt smith who basically
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says goodbye and then you know snaps his
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head back and turns into Peter Capaldi i
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like and i love sudden oh ok yeah and I
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love to speech I thought his speech was
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was beautiful
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actually I thought that was a really
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well well done my dad is best and the
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most care that Moffat took with the
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entire episode and quite rightly so is
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that last little bit where where where
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Matt Smith is on the stage for the last
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time and and make some interesting
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contrast to the discussion that david
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about how another man saunters away and
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and in this being about the acceptance
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of change and I thought that part was
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really beautiful i don't really the plot
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mechanics of the end of Iowa I'll
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explode and solve this
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I'm not sure really work for me but I
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but once once clara was in the TARDIS I
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thought they nailed the rest of it
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didn't David Tennant's dr. only lived
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for hundreds of years this guy live for
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like isn't the man more than 1,000 or
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600 VA is crazy it was over 20,000 20
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over 2,000 years old so kind of like
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because there's a lot of hundred years
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sometimes it's well-known a 1200 a long
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time ago sweeter money was here already
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which 1200 before he went out actors to
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on gaps the way
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yeah there's the gap in the inn in the
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between season five season six where
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he's traveling with that with amy and
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rory staying at home and so the younger
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version of him
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is is called by the older version who
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supposedly dies so that several hundred
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years 3 and here this time you have here
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is similar these three hundred years so
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he's had like I just wonder if they're
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trying to say like a little bit like the
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the war doctor also maybe if this has
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been enough time where tenant was
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describing that character was more still
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in the prime and felt it was UCS like
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everybody's matt smith is is dying of
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old age here there's no doubt about it
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and the one thing I saw a lot of people
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on Twitter freaking out about this
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afternoon was that regeneration was too
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fast all of a sudden these Peter Capaldi
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and I just assumed and and maybe maybe
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i'm assuming right because he set it up
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for no good reason in the beginning I
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just assumed that he was holographically
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presenting himself as Matt Smith to
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Clara and all of a sudden he's Peter
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Capaldi I thought he did all the cover
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of all the energy and it was he like
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this is the reared and then they led
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into the whole thing like you know to
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fly this so this is a bad regeneration
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like this out of the earlier that was
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funny well that happens you know that
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happens regularly but who didn't love
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the idea of the kidneys though I was
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away I don't like the color I like the
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color it but it's good you know that you
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can tell the color
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alright i did feel like throwing a
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Malcolm Tucker bleepity bleep at the end
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so yes yes yeah i'm not sure if that was
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my reaction when he was just thinking
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about my reaction it's interesting
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because you know I went regenerating
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Smith I think a lot of people were like
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you know had grown so attached this man
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tera to david tennant they're like wow
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this new guy is you
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whereas i feel like with Capaldi I'm
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like I'm very interested to see what he
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does like I mean I i love Smith and I
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was always excited to see what he did
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but Peter Capaldi is and you know he's a
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known quantity in some ways right in a
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way that matt smith was not and so
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coming into that was like alright I'm
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kind of curious to see what this doctor
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does and how this doctor different also
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the point that he's the he's the oldest
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you the same age as William Hartnell and
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the oldest doctor since since William
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Hartnell not so that makes it a very
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different change from the gentlemen
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we've had for the last several years it
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was a my wife said this to me as we're
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watching because uh
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we were watching the exact same place
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where we watching even when the last
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generation happened kind of strangely
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and and she said you know it's the same
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it's the same every time this with new
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fans have to learn which is you know you
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love you love the doctor and Easter dr.
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and then he leaves and you're like I
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don't want him to leave and then you
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regenerate this like who is this new guy
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i don't like him and then he comes in
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you're like well okay maybe he's not so
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bad and then a few years pass and he's
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your guy and then he leaves and you're
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like wait I don't want him to leave and
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the Duke comes and you're like I don't
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know about this guy i'm not sure I like
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him and it goes on that's just how it is
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shorts and I felt that night too
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yes I kind of excited to see Peter
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quality marier and all that because i
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like matt smith and something else to
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say to say you know maybe we should you
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give a moment to reflect on Matt Smith's
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tenure i mean overall I thought he did a
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great job
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I mean you can tell you something he had
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some terrible writing on some episodes
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but you deliver out and everything I i
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I'm so why didn't like him exactly even
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in this one the the parts that I I
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really didn't like he sold it
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he sold getting old he sold sitting
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there for 300 years i think it was ok
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with that
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I hated the writing I think he was never
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not i think it was never not good and
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let's remember that he was cast it was
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kind of a shock because you know so
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young and nobody expected that and then
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everybody kind of roll their eyes and
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said oh you know there's always going to
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be they're gonna get younger and younger
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and and you know you're turning this
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into a you know a kids show run by you
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know starring kids and and you'll all
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the eye-rolling all the complaining
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about it and you know at the time the
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producers said look he has this amazing
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combination of things and when he walked
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in the room we were just blown away that
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he could be old and young at the same
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time and he was totally the doctor and
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you know what they got it they nailed it
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he was all of those things he did a
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fantastic job you can't I mean I can't
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fault ya some of the episodes he he was
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in were quite problematic although i
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think that's true of pretty much every
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actor I could you know David Tennant
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went out with a whimper because most of
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the specials weren't very good either
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but you know what they always made it to
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rise above their material so yeah you
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know as actors barring that role that
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role somehow always floats to the top
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i feel i agree and that's what's
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interesting is if you remember
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when they cast him off and said we were
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actually looking for an older man yeah I
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wanted an older I got a theory that
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Peter Capaldi was in the mix then to
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yeah yeah I'm interested this awesome
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this is maybe what he was planning then
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yeah he changed everything because he
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really like matt smith and thank
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goodness
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yeah yeah it was a good good call when a
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you know I think they were they were
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lucky to find him and got to love his
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lithium his last fish fingers dosage
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there at the end that was pretty cute
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that was that was his fingers so here's
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the thing about the day at the end of
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regenerations we often will see dr. Zira
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revisiting old companions or remembering
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them i'm reminded that when Tom Baker
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regenerated when Peter Davison
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regenerated they actually were kind of
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revisited by their old companions as
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visions and so to have that happen with
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amy and with Amelia and Amy who was
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first face that he ever saw and his
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story you know started and essentially
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with a crack in the wall ended with with
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her story to have her appear at the end
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and tell him that his story was over I
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thought that was beautiful and it was
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just enough it wasn't really a me it was
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his memory of a me to say you've done a
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good job raggedy man and now it's a it's
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over and I thought that was a that
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product here to me I happy that I did I
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did expect river to show up after that I
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did have a pretty little bit of taking
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her and Ramona she had like she had her
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moment but i kinda you know your back
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some weights be you know that that seems
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like that would have driven drama
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curtain entirely on that whole thread
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but it's going for the top of the
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mountain goshti spin-off series i'm
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waiting for that because that would be
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great but hasn't communicated astra
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Madame vastra that's and Jenny yeah
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yes tracks i won't struggle as I want I
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want all stripes all the time we 20
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minutes animated be fine but just the
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centaurans because we didn't see the
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waning about things but those sent those
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centaurans yeah the Sun arms yeah I like
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that I can't see the controls invisible
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that's good
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cute yeah yeah yeah what I say go ahead
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and highlight the we're sorry about your
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yes it's rather nice apology very very
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Douglas Adams I i kinda like the fact
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that they've kept going for years and
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years this whole religious army thing
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has been consistent and it's actually
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very amusing
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that being specifically sacrilegious
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it's more like it actually makes sense
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it makes perfect sense so seen in the
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past will see in the future I'll say
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this about all of the red cons and and
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tying off of loose ends in this episode
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the one that i found hilarious was that
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the silence as we've known them are
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essentially the confessional priest of
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this organization because after you
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confessed you know nobody remembers what
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happens that was good that was looking
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at solution inja also because they seem
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so they seem so menacing when they're
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advancing on Clara right at the
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beginning there right just use for keeps
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forgetting them and you're sitting there
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thinking what's the small the silence
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was this building to you know what's
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what evil thing is going to happen and
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then it turns out that they're actually
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not exactly harmless but look kind of
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not really the enemy here right duh you
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notice that was a kind of bored Queen
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vibe there too i notice that it would
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know this this is better than the board
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queen i gotta say but there was that
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whole like we lose the mother superious
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the middle yeah alright inviting
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somebody else's cannon now and long on
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canon law
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we're going i did like you know i'm i'm
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kind of tired of the week the weeping
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angels to just become a know what else
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you gonna do with machinery and
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shameless insertion of the weeping oh
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that was great but that was a wonderful
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i did like that because it was like okay
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this is something we haven't seen with
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them and yet it would be tough in a
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blinding snowstorm they're buried in
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snow that little soul also i like to
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have enough time to do anything else
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today we didn't bother coming back to
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the mutants like other two yellow
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tickets you want to get into town
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ok here's here's my here's my nine year
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old sons question which was very smart
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of him after the episode was over he
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said ok I think the people who wrote
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this episode forgot that when the angels
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touch you you they send you back in time
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actually want to grab number
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onto her ankle yeah but they got the
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whole force field they've held on to
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people before they held on to a really
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held onto river the week when held their
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sometimes they don't want to send you
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back in time I guess is the answer but
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I'm just saying nine-year-olds want to
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why the weeping angels are not portrayed
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consistently was it almost doors it's
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just the cherubs that set you back in
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oh well they haven't read when you're
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not done much fanfiction can be written
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on this topic friend pointed out to me
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at the end of the episode that the
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doctor lies ostensibly in the truth
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field but he said that has a plan and
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then he says now I don't have a plan
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writer I'm not many people i know that
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this is once we crack it closes a
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warrior the crime wanted that one one or
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the other is a lie
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yes is a clean has been played it
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doesn't have a plan right you can't have
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it both ways i have a fiendish plan is a
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plan within a plan and we've been no
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point I think it's wrapping up and the
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plan wrapped will even know place that's
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right just as a trick is just that good
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more of a trick that a plan is the
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doctor yeah
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Eli's trick that's true dr. yes so it
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sounds like so some of us some of us
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like it and acknowledge its flaws and
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some of us didn't like it but father had
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good bits in it does that sound about
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yeah yeah yeah i can go there and it was
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hard coming off to the doctor because
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that was I know Atlas in the fan was one
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of their for that was pretty pretty good
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i do you think day of the doctor is
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where we're going bell like I had hope i
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have saved that money is basically like
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we're going to be friends with a long
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way around
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Scotty the interview for the we have to
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regenerate matt smith she was gonna
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let's take care of that now and now
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let's go off and do other stuff yeah
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don't forget the Christmas episode the
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Christmas episodes are always sillier
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and little off camera and I just for
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anyway I found it wasn't one to do i
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just found this wasn't that and it was a
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lie i do think that Steven Moffat caught
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between a rock and a hard place where he
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had to do the 50th anniversary and he
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did they knocked it out of the park I
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thought but couldn't end that then he
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could you could move that had to be on
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that date and then he only he only had
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one more episode with matt smith and it
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had to be on Christmas so he was working
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within very clear restrictions which is
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you got to have some Christmas element
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and you got to regenerate massive and
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give him a send-off and wrap up all the
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stories that maybe you know i would
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argue maybe he should have tried to wrap
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some of those up on it at the end of the
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previous season right maybe he maybe he
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thought he would have
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another six or seven episodes yeah maybe
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he thought he'd have more episodes with
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matt smith and and that didn't work out
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yeah yeah whoo whee we may never know
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but uh it was it that was a tough task
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and welcome our next guest even morpheus
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ma the consuming he burned out all of
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his creative energy on day of the doctor
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and I'm figuring out and bring Sherlock
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back and this just kind of filling
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between like they have to write that too
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honestly if you're gonna do one right do
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the 50th anniversary episode right and
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then and make sure you get the last time
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we see the doctor before he regenerates
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right and get those interests
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yeah you don't have to the middle takes
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care of itself yeah yeah I just sent my
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spirit I just I like David Tennant and
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that david tennant regenerated in a
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really terrible i think episode the end
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of time but but at the very end what'd
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he do he sacrificed himself for a
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regular person and I thought that was
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kind of beautiful this was interesting
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in the sense that he sort of does
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sacrifice not only himself but I'm you
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know all those years for this little
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village I thought that was nice
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I just you know again the execution
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wasn't wasn't so great for me and
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there's giant spaceships that he blew up
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with regeneration powers even if it is
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something we must talk about going to
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the texts like he does this gives Peter
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Capaldi's doctor a clean slate for the
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first time in years where there's
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nothing left over all the mat smith pots
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are gone
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even the pre-match slippery mess with
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plots like all the entire history of the
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show now has been wrapped up in the last
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two episodes so that there's almost
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nothing dangly out there so they have a
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fresh slate let's hope it doesn't
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immobilize Moffitt and he's incapable of
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producing anything that would get with
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the fresh ideas it is an interesting
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position the show finds itself in
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because this is a like when David
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Tennant took over it's the same
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production team by the new doctor and
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and returning companion so it's not
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quite the clean slate and I think
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everybody's expecting that
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Capaldi will probably end up working for
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some other showrunner because i don't
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think anybody really expecting off to
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stick around more than maybe another
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year or two so that might be interesting
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too is Moffat kind of setting him off on
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a direction and then walking away and
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letting someone else take the reins who
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knows what
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will happen there but it isn't Clara
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yeah this is no magazine 3 stars don't
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yeah that could be is that he wants to
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get the show fresh and ready to go he
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said as much for the next 50 years what
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he says he wants it to be able to be on
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a on a new path and and matt smith says
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at one point that this is you know he
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has a new regeneration cycle so he's
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essentially been granted by the time
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lords a new set and and so in some ways
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Peter Capaldi is like regeneration he's
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the first doctor of the next set which
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is interesting you know you just blew my
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stock 2.2 that explains why he's so old
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that's right get younger and younger
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yea struggling she was with my mother
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who has not she knows nothing about
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Doctor Who so she was quite confused but
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at the end and when it strikes by know
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you know he regenerates clever because
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they can get a new actor so he
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regenerates into Peter Capaldi and she's
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like why is he so haha like well I just
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too much
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yeah i watch it with my mom later who
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also hasn't seen the show and and and
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she was she was sorry to see Matt Smith
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go with the inches like a hole but is he
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gonna come back and maybe that's maybe
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it's a trick I'm like no it's veterans
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that coming back but I don't think it's
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interesting my mom started watching this
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very real actively and she's like so
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stupid i don't understand we're watching
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this and at the end it was like a that
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unfortunate commercial break actually
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watching on the beach in my hand just
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like is that the end of the show yeah I
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don't know there's more but i was
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watching when you are with my cousins
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who are all die hard fans including out
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my eye I 19 year old cousin who that the
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vote for her when he takes off the bow
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tie and drops and she's like oh ya know
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what Dan who doesn't like the movie
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diehard or die hard fans
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yeah I'd like yeah a lot of official
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twitter feed put out of thing before the
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show this morning of a just a close-up
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of the the boat I was just his last bow
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Sherlock reference there is fine exactly
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that's the face about 100
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it's amazing how is cool anything we
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missed anything we should mention before
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tied up and mismanagement
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oh yeah just a second forward to Peter
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Capaldi though it's a little bit more
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time to play with her character
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yeah that'd be nice yet because i didn't
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like learning center
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yeah she was she was good she was I like
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this straight sassy supportive smart
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from the 50 of 2i think she I think the
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more and more clear like the last couple
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episodes definitely I mean I've
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basically like to throughout the the
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only false note i really had from her
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tonight was just you know don't change
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why do you have to change except of all
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the Companions ever had she's the one
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who probably should understand that he
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changes and then it's ok you know
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because you seen them all
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she's are standing at that point the
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audience yeah I know I know I know but
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maybe you're not familiar like it was
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right there there there wasn't a pun
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so we didn't get nuggets I did like oh
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yeah but don't change your clothes
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people always to control her eyes at the
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in that time crash special about how
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David Tennant sister Peter Davison you
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were my doctor I like that in this
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episode matt smith business
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hey I was my doctor haha yes i'll always
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remember being me and loved it
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goodbye everybody but that was cool
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school bowties are cool know for those
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references are sad little right I'm
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hoping to do i'm hoping they'll be when
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when Peter Capaldi arrives and he's
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figuring out what what he's gonna where
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he'll pick up fares and say something
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like good god what was I thinking that
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we'll be able to i can picture it some
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good jokes they're all right well that's
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it for dr. 11 onto onto dr. 12 sometime
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I don't even know of all oddest
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generating 2017 Sherlock schedule now
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what isn't
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yeah that that joke about how come again
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came back before Sherlock still slaves
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me that it was a creature
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it's amazing ok I would like to thank my
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flash cast yes for staying up late on
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Christmas night i love spending
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Christmas night with my friends from the
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incomparable
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and I did it again all my family's in
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the other room
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this video's after she should be a
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flasher cast after all the duty by the
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oh yeah we didn't talk about the new
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Holograms that was like there are lots
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of coupling level it's in here
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yeah you don't need to yeah yeah we can
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never talk about it again let's all
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explain later Scott McNulty thanks for
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being here thanks for having me i am
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happy to always have you and we talked
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about something that was tv-related in
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my book related which is also a special
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it's true
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yeah i'm reading a book you recommended
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by the way I hope you like it hey end
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time heart tells me that a last
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Christmas day I was also reading a book
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specifically recommended by you so thank
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you for taking this is my Christmas card
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utilizes have you you are Mike same but
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you are my Christmas miracle skies right
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you complete me guess you get a real
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good inflation thank you for being here
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thank you for having me it was glad we
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caught you to pop in there at the last
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minute David Laura thank you as always
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and thank you as always and Dan Morgan
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thanks for skyping in from far-off lands
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where there's no there's so much now
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well Papa needs a brand-new set of
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generations yep it had happened it was
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it was a moral imperative answer any
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cold well thanks for thanks for popping
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and also from a land of snow and ice
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you're most welcome sitting by the fake
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fire so that works well we'll keep you
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fake warm so that's good
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yeah all right and everybody out there
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for listening thank you for tuning into
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this crazy flash cast addition we'll be
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back right after the new year for our
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exciting annual clips show / best of
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2013 episode and yes that we will
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remember when Steve picked that moment
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where he picked that moment where he
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picks Skeletor so stay tuned for that in
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this is wrapping 2013-14 comfortable by
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everybody
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