Ep. 03: "The Viet Cong Can Smell the Soap"
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hello hi John how are you I'm well
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Merlin how are you
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oh you're sick right I'm sick and I i'm
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having a peanut butter sandwich so that
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that makes it sound like I'm sicker than
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oh man i know well you know when i get
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sick it's never a small matter i'm not i
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don't get sick for two days I get sick
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for 420 days and it's a it's like a it's
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like it's like merging my people out of
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Egypt I have to go through all this
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stuff it doesn't matter if it doesn't
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matter if everybody else got the same
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cold and they're all over it by the
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weekend
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I have to go through this long march
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across the this season after part the
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plagues have to come
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it's it's frustrating you get sick hard
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i do i get sick heart I you know that's
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part of being extreme food is part of
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non no compromise lifestyle that I have
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adopted since I was a young man no fear
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this is no fear based lifestyle program
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surely a bird of totally burly like
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shrimping you know where I got hurley
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you got to Lee to lay how do you say
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that what you want is on your car right
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totally is that doesn't matter where you
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put a bird on it
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oh I was like something I've frito-lay I
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think about going to get that thing you
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know it's against like the carabiners
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right when you got one of those things
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on your car
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I don't you put in some kind of board
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support is a movement related board
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oh you know where I guess you like you
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like board related movement so much and
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you go somewhere and deliberately by a
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big black box and put on top is a tool a
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tool that's the kind of like oh I see
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what you're saying it's a board carrying
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missiles aboard carrying box on your car
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you have any stickers on you're still
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the same van as you get some different
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the van blew up I'm afraid to say I
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didn't have any stickers on it but when
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I was it when I was a teenager I
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definitely had a Chrysler Imperial a 74
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chrysler imperial when I was a kid and
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also also known as a pussy magnet
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boy we call it the boat because he
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didn't use words like pussy know in high
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school except to describe wimps but my
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car had so many stickers on the back and
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they were all stickers they were all
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like Solomon binding stickers you know
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they were up there about ski equipment
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and it was it's a private language right
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i mean one of those cars we drive past
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you and it would seem like they just had
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they had chosen random letters and
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numbers to put on the stickers on the
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back of their carpet but I was
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communicating very definitely that from
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the back of my car you could tell that i
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thought if you had tyrolia bindings on
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your skis that you were pussy mean
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really that was that will come through
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and be like a red sox affiliation keeps
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would see that instantly and you could
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say like you know ty Cobbs racist and
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everybody would know you probably didn't
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like whatever team he was on against the
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Yankee's runs out
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wow so I mean if you had given me a pair
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of skis with tyrolia bindings on them in
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1984 I would have refused them because
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you're not a pussy because I'm not a
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pussy and I'm not going to i'm not going
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to use that brand there are only four
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brands of ski bindings but I had chosen
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sides and I expressed that partisanship
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through stickers on the back of my
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Chrysler and they're all but those are
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all its so guys five shows that's so
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interesting to me because it's if you
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think about have you ever seen an
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Atlantic Records bumper sticker
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mmm i'm gonna guess not no great label
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right put a lot of great stuff wasn't
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the R&B and then they did the led
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zeppelin but you then eventually your
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buddies right with the respect of cabs
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on atlantic yeah I had an SST records
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are right when you do see punk-rock
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bumpers
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but that's the thing I mean it'sit's to
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me this sounds ridiculous because I
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don't understand why people ski I mean
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right it's not like you can just buy a
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scissor jack and hit your leg till it
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hmm i don't know how that works on my
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mechanics and fresh air you look that's
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that's already a date-rape right there a
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lot of date rape and skiing
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well there's a lot of drinking and
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skiing and wherever there's drinking
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dances a fun date rape silent epidemic
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mm ok although no way that's not true
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because there's a lot of drinking in
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rugby but there are no girls and rugby
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so I think the date rape is a lot lower
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in rugby because it's us it's a
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100-percent male environment and I know
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there's female rugby so sure I'm and and
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put this is probably out somewhere
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there's probably a female Steely Dan
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fancy that's exceptional person
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right exactly I don't rugby players and
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Mail rugby players i don't think i've
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ever met
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do you think there's more date rape in
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rugby and lacrosse no no lacrosse is
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weighed eight rapier than rugby party
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equipment you can on a sports basement
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you know I'll but like crosses
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I mean I don't really think there's the
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cross on the west coast is there
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LaCrosses is the cross is big where my
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ladies from back in Rhode Island
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ya see and Rhode Island to me when I
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think of going to school in Rhode Island
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I think of it being basically a series
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of rapes right that you have to get
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through in order to to graduate a life
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with a lot of food with eggs in it there
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because of the Portuguese that's
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something i didn't know although i did
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know that the Rhode Island mafia is a it
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was a kind of a terrifying local mafia
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if you will
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they weren't behind never became like a
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big mafia but they were I don't carry
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side out the headlines in the same way
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that that the five families did right
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they were they were small they were they
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were an artisanal mafia em Arsenal the
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now is that glucose glucose is the club
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there right you played a loop us
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I never played at lupos the onlyshow
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i've ever played in Rhode Island have to
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confess was when i was in harvey danger
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and we played in a we played in only
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like the david byrne school did you play
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no resting now are you kidding there's
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not that many cities besides providence
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rhode island there aren't and Providence
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even really is stretching the limits of
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the definition of the city
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I I don't want to go down tangent John
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but I and I have a lot of people will
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literally have computers and stuff in
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and read on so we're probably clear life
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and got eggs in their food and yeah a
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lot of parties lot of you know um I
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might get stretch and stretch the
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Colorado State it's kind of like on
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liechtenstein the country you can rent
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liechtenstein known as you know that we
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should circle back to that 20 grand that
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you can write liechtenstein did you know
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what you know it's a great country
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liechtenstein is that the one with the
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stamps isn't standard sale about the
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stamps welcome studies about banking mm
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it's about it's about i mean if the
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Swiss are too revealing for you
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oh I get anybody a victim stone right
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it's like I it's like a mattress nobody
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even as exists
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yeah but the problem with liechtenstein
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is that it's really just gets its
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release part of Switzerland that they
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just are allowing to kind of they use
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the swiss franc yeah i like the Vatican
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yeah that's right it's a it's like a
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Vatican for the vacuums Vatican's in
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Luxembourg that's right Luxembourg is
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the one with the stamps luxembourg
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philately hmm that doesn't sound right
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luxembourg is a great country is that
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really really little one is that the one
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with the mouse that roared with Peter
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Sellers Luxembourg is very very small
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it's small but it's got a fascinating
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history you know they speak french they
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speak Dutch they speak German especially
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like mirrors like that it's like the
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mirrors the shadow cabinet Switzerland
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right so it's really can't decide what
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they speak right well switzerland is
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someone's a wonderful country they speak
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German Italian and French but uh but no
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the election burgers tiny tiny town a
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tiny tiny country and then that the city
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of luxembourg luxembourg as a country
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and it's also a city the city of
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Luxembourg is like a train set it
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seriously is you stand in this and that
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they built it and on this ravine and
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it's always kind of shrouded in fog and
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it looks like people
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takin a likin out of a bag and glued it
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to little pieces of rock that they made
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out of out of a felt it's um it's a
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beautiful place if I was ever going to
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go on a honeymoon somewhere and it
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wasn't to a beach i would go on a
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honeymoon to luxembourg because you feel
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like a princess there even the groom
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yeah feels like a princess and
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Luxembourg it says it right there on the
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side when you come in this is what I'm
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learning so much i don't get off topic
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but alright have you no no i wasn't sure
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what the topic is you had so many have
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you on never used wolfram alpha I think
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it's something you need to know about I
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don't even know what you just said we
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have one worker for I'm gonna certainly
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speak fanatically but there's a there's
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a website if you will from like wolf RAM
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from is a word and then search for alpha
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and it's kind of like Google full form
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is a word that's the guys name he's
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going to invented a program for doing
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math he's really weird but you're gonna
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III many times like when i was able to
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look up what it costs to sleep on a
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board in San Francisco 18-49 I did that
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on here
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Oh wolfram alpha is a website and see
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there you go in and say things like oh
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good you go in and say something like
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out like I just entered in Liechtenstein
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and in the word san francisco and i can
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tell you and then it wasn't much stuff
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did you mean this did you mean that what
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it says here is that liechtenstein are
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you ready for this
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first of all San Francisco as you know
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46.8 seven square miles
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that's right so we're about to set
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working to seven by seven more or less
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concerned that goes down that goes down
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to that doesn't go all the way to palo
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alto no no it's literally the clan since
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the glans of the penis if you envision
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that Peninsula the painting you can't
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spell peninsula that penis not
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liechtenstein so that was about 7 46
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well you know depends depends on whether
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I've been drinking 46.8 seven square
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miles in san francisco and by the way to
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your point about liechtenstein it is
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that is as san francisco county is also
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i don't know why even have a county if
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it equals the city right right as it is
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right for this you get that in your head
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down Sinai ready for this
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point seven eight square miles right
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send you a link for that
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that's when he doesn't that I mean I'm
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not even sure i'm not sure how you get
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like to the whatever the DMV of
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countries is I'm not even sure how you
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get in there and like have them take you
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seriously when they say are you sure you
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didn't leave off like 700 the great
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thing about liechtenstein is that the
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western border is a river right so you
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hear you know that you're in
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Liechtenstein could you go across the
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river and then hit the ground
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immediately starts barking up into a
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mountain and the entire you actually get
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in there you go on your walk
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no I didn't go there when i walk but
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I've been there yeah wow ok and then it
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the country just sort of Arc's up the
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side of this mountain and then the the
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border with Austria which is on the
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eastern side is just up there in the
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misty clouds somewhere so the whole
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country is basically just the western
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side of a love of the Alps it's just the
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western side of them of this mountain of
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this long range of mountains it's just a
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little bigger than a zoo right i mean
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you can you can stand on the one side of
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the river and see the entire nation of
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liechtenstein way it's like pigs
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remember the dead the morning after I
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met you your band and ken stringfellow
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and my wife and I went to twin peaks and
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we went up there and you can see the
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entire city of San Francisco formulation
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full day that was the first time I'd
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ever been up there
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yeah i was heavier than i have a photo
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that orange hair and ken stringfellow
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had green hair
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you did have Oringer ken stringfellow
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did have green air and that was it was
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not be coming on either of you your old
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man and you should have stopped that so
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that's true that's true and i'm still in
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a nice don't really completely
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understand how he was outside during
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daylight
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you got to tell me about it
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that's a nasty cold John you you get
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sick hard i do i do it i want to correct
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something
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according to the guardian UK reporting
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for the guardian UK and mean send mass
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clarifies liechtenstein for hire 70,000
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dollars a night that is not a huge
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amount of money i bet you've gotten
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nearly that four shows sometimes you can
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rip liechtenstein for 70 grand
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liechtenstein rental skates like you
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know like in in the michael moore movie
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when you can like go to the benefit
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we're like a rich person in jail
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same deal here you go in and I think it
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includes a few things look at that looks
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like he tried the Snoop Dogg tried to do
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a music video
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they're on different and weird 35
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thousand inhabitants
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wow that sounds pretty comfortable that
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sounds like a like a couple in a
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four-bedroom house that sounds very
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comfortable it's nice i mean there and
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it's not a poor country there's now
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there's no ghetto and Liechtenstein
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kinda mention one thing and passing this
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little circles back to something as I'm
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quoting here from this article visitors
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could also try cross-country skiing
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snowboarding and snowshoe hiking to
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explore the picturesque landscape so
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they do have skiing licks in
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Liechtenstein yeah i bet they do
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it's the whole country's on a mountain
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like I said yeah but I mean like they're
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putting that to use and I just sitting
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around staring the mound trying to
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figure out what to do twin peaks i think
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that the primary industry up there is
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chinese ladies selling San Francisco
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fleeces to people who refuse to believe
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that it's cold all the time up there you
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know women i heard just something very
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recently that they were building a big
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stem cell research center are like that
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kind of hug to the side of twin peaks is
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that not true
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are you kidding me no like a giant
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secret stem cell research laboratory
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laboratory territory now they're calling
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it that's up there on the other like
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hanging on the mountainside that seems
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to be I mean you know I follow sort of
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the stem cell right seen and that was
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all the all abuzz all the guys now I i
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followed the the Twin Peaks news i mean
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they have a newsletter article for the
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newsletter very small circulation
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it's in Chinese though it might be in my
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oh the problems you want to read it
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again an hour later why is it always
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funny I don't want to be funny John
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that's racist
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well I mean it depends i mean its
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original but not racists racial traits
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show Rachel yeah like Rachel Rachel
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Weisz do you see you at the college like
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in your way right sort of okay well i
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was going to try and drop some kind of
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science but I remember if i'm
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remembering like what you guys duh that
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the university of washington which is
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your alma mater i believe ya you were
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when you deal with dewey decimal or like
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library of congress i'm guessing library
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of congress you at
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well yeah there are multiple libraries
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at the YouTube but hold on different
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systems that's like that's like that's
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crazy there well I think the I think the
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oh I think they have standardized it now
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ok now i would have to look this up and
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look this up after our visit god i wish
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i could give you some theraflu I mean
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that's just--that's awful John well I
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just drank a whole lot of robitussin
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which is something i don't know i don't
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like to take medicine now as as you know
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because it it goes against my core
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values that you're perfect
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well that I'm perfect and that also i
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can endure any pain and also that drugs
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are bad so that that's kind of a perfect
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storm right that's the but that's the
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the Trinity for me who I am perfect and
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drugs are bad experience more properly a
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storm of your perfection
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well you have to get close to really
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feel this feel the wind really get a
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good whiff of the i.m i agree with you i
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think i think it you're like a marine
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right you want you you tonight
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oh sorry yeah i mean not like the
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adjectives like you you cannot get the
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child cold enough for the bed hard
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enough right you like it or in my case
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talking shaped enough
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yeah well you know that's why I I
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originally started shaving without
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lather and then I then I progress to
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just shaving without water like that's
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like that's like a punishment in english
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movie isn't it no no because I read it
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in a special forces handbook i got a
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sister I found some old Special Forces
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handbook from the sixties and they said
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don't use lather because the Vietcong
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can smell the soap song will identify
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you in the jungle by the smell of your
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detergent and they'll find you and I
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said I don't that's not what I want I
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don't want the Vietcong finding me
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that's an enemy without a cold if you
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can smell that that's that's astounding
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well they're very attuned to their
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environment the vehicle and they hide so
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well that really in the pnw there might
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be Vietcong around you right now just
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waiting to get a whiff and go you know
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what that's an American wherever i go i
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assume there are Viacom I don't think
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that's bad i think i think that's it's
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self-preservation
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agreed I so anyway and stop using ladder
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because I didn't want to give off this
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scent that think that betrayed my my
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location and then after awhile I was
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like I'm just I'm shaving with with with
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what would happen if I started shaving
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with cold water and they tried that and
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it was painful and then i said what
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would happen if I just stopped using
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water and just shaved dry and it's also
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painful but there's a there's a beauty
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to it there's a and then of course
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eventually I just stopped shaving that's
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what I was my question
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I mean if you're in Special Forces I
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appreciate that you're taking that time
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working that hard for us boo is
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everything you just wouldn't shave I i
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stopped shaving at a certain point i
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mean i always show you now you must
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actually people that the whatever they
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were there a time like airborne or just
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like all right well here's the problem
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with airborne they are they wouldn't
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shave that I you know I'm not not
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airborne but I'm not about Special
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Forces like the seals and LOL Cats
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higher up
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translate black ops kind of thing that's
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right those guys they wouldn't shave
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those guys would have beard they have
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Taliban beards if they could get away
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with it but they're part of a corporate
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structure and they have to make it they
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have to go back to the base and some
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candy-ass general has never been out in
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the shit storm probably tonight by
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jeffrey chance you know a he says I
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don't like how long your sideburns are
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and these guys have to go fucking shame
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it's it's it's ridiculous is you notice
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Dirty Dozen that's not thinking of Dirty
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Dozen Dirty Dozen is the one where
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James copper is that after i like it was
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Julie marvin lee marvin oh it was Lee
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Marvin Marvin is going to make i think
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george kennedy go and shave the guys
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because they grow beards isn't that the
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Dirty Dozen you think I'm gonna shave
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them dry shaving or whatever and and the
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keeper southern ones dad is in that he
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plays the crazy and it was crazy
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not as crazy as Telly Savalas Telly
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Savalas coach acting really crazy one
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that's a good movie
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it gets its use whatever it's a seems
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formula but yea it's going on
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well it's like stagecoach you know if
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you're stagecoach but you will see
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stagecoach you realize like this is I I
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realize it's another great westerns
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right to get the Shan High Noon very
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overrated in my opinion the stagecoach
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you watching oh this is where all this
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came from em when you watching like why
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this is such a cliche but it wasn't it
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was like 1939 I think that's what's
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happening the Dirty Dozen and it was the
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first one to have like bearded whack go
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that I got was talking about this the
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other night I i was a I mean I was an
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Anglophile as a kid right
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I really really liked England for some
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reason what era
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oh just you know England if you put if
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you put if you put a Union Jack on
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something i would buy it and I and in
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that sense I was a pro mod but it was
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but it was a long time before I was
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guys right there was the American guy
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there was some kind of ready guy from
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with a knife and then the british guy
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was always a little bit faggy and he
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carried a briefcase that was for
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explosives and he always had a he always
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had a quip and the other guys were
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always saying come on come on the
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cherries are coming and he would say
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just one more second old chap and I'll
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have this wide right up and then then he
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would blow up the bridge right it was
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always the british guy ended up the cool
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it was cool as a cucumber he had a
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little bit of it was ready mix
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Ali a little bitty thing to say right
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before he blew up the bridge and as a
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seven or eight year old boy that is the
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guy I wanted to be
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yeah i did not want to be there the
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American hero with the square jaw and I
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certainly didn't want to be the ratty
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guy with the knife and I didn't want to
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be the you know I didn't want to be the
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fight of the kind of guy that was a
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little twisted
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you know I wanted to be this wanted to
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be this slightly effeminate British
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explosives expert that had a little quip
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with it and took it right to the very
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edge and here came to Jerry's and all
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they were halfway across the bridge and
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boom that's like I'm i totally agree
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it's kind of like um why don't I i think
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if you took if you took out the part
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about being cool and having a bomb
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that's pretty much me like faggy
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briefcase and equip like kind of a kind
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of a smartass I think that was that was
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me and we accept the indie books instead
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of a bomb i was totally with you though
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I'm thinking like you get David Niven
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right you got Alec Guinness thank you
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yes Alec it's like and here's the thing
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this is where we tied together Alec
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Guinness in Bridge on the River Kwai
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right thats why u shape shape because
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you're fucking Alec Guinness and you're
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not gonna let that guy push you around
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right you shape because again can I just
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say English guys slaughterhouse-five the
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English guys in a slaughterhouse five
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they kept our wire they told they told
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billy pilgrim you got to keep your
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dignity and every morning I get up I do
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rigorous exercise and i evacuate my
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bowels that might be exact quote but
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it's close to be calm and carry on
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precisely precisely and you think that's
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part of your it seems like that might be
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part of your eat this maybe not about
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shaving maybe not about bombs maybe not
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about evacuating your bowels but there
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are certain things you set a standard
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for yourself and and that's something
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that that that's a light that
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illuminates the path for you
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it illuminates the path that's precisely
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true if i wake up in the morning and I
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think everything is nuts and i am also
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nuts the fact that i can go in and if I
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chose shave without using water gives me
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some clarity
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it enables me to say I can handle this
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whatever if there are Vietcong in my
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apple trees they're not going to smell
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me today
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because I shaved without using detergent
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it and you really shouldn't you should
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have been in Vietnam that well I thought
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about it I mean I what I think i would
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like to be any kind of i think i'd like
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my father before me I realized something
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about my dad as I was growing up I
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realized that he had read so many books
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about the CIA that in his imagination he
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was living a parallel life where he was
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in the CIA
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mhm and I i didn't i didn't know that
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until much later in life
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existential hypochondria we read about
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it is easy to read about the disease so
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much you're pretty sure you got it yeah
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right exactly and he had he thought he
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was he thought he might be having a i
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might as well have a second life he had
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read so many John licari books where you
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know where Smyly who walked across that
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the Teva river and handed some guys on
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microfiche that he believed in some way
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that he had done these things and that
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his actual life was just just the front
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Justin cover for this real life that he
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he was a World War to vet my dad and i
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think i think that that that starting
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somewhere back then he just had this
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sort of i mean a very faint sense
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impression that he had actually been on
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a secret mission the whole time and for
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all I know he was he couldn't really
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tell with my dad maybe he was on a
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secret mission the whole time but i have
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the same thing i mean i've been i've
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been sharpening my knives for so many
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years that I i'm not sure that i haven't
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it's the chuck barris problem i'm not
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sure that I i will have been a spy this
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whole time
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that's it and that some I'm some sort of
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manchurian candidate waiting for the
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waiting for the right combination of of
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of whistles and tweets and i'm going to
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be activated
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and go to go to work mhm
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it's like it's like I thought your
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you've got I'm just saying you might
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have missed an opportunity here and
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maybe you maybe you're meant to feel
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like you missed an opportunity cuz i
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think you might be a kind of sleeper
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cell as you're describing like your
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father before you possibly maybe not you
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might be a sleeper cell you might be in
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better shape than you think you might
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actually be like what 60 you don't know
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it may be again maybe there are Frank
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Sinatra making you a little bit and
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you're going to go you know go off and
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take some people out you started
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loosening about now it just strikes me
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that you're paranoid almost to the point
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of being a diplomatic not you like guns
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your little paranoid and and I think
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it's fair to say you feel really
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underappreciated and often ask where's
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my parade
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mm so i don't i don't need email i'm
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just saying this this could be something
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to think about any metal mount ceiling
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mount well that's why it's why I cried
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through the truman show but I want to
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see the truman show i sat down and I was
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not a jim carrey fan I got dragged to
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this movie by some people that thought
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we were going to see that Ace Ventura
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pet detective
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they're like I'm not this jim carrey guy
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let's go see this new movie we all went
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to this man I was just you know it was
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either batter in alcoholics Anonymous
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meeting I was I'll go to the movie with
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you fine right and i sat down already
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po-faced just waiting for this to be a
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terrible movie where he he did his with
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the whole time and and the movie starts
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and before the credits or even over i'm
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balling I ball through the whole film
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and I can we get to the end and the
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lights come up and my friends are like
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oh that wasn't very funny and I just I
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stood up and said I have to go and when
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I walked the city streets for hours
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trying to figure out why the hell the
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truman show affected me so strongly and
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it's because i'm entering candidate
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hmm well it got a little bit too close
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little too close
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something guy waged out a little bit you
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saw the camera basically I did I did I
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saw the glint of the camera lens but
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then when I turned to look it was gone
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I could not put my finger on it now but
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the Clint yeah I felt that way about
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Synecdoche New York I can't even watch
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the trailer for that without crying I
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can't watch
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schenectady new york because it's a
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terrible movie now I 3accepted it is
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probably one of the greatest movies ever
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made and I people feel strongly about it
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it's like The Smiths of movies i I just
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I don't know if I get it is like the
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smiths in the sense that I do forgive my
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friends who are incorrect by not liking
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this messy
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I don't dismiss on Allison I like I'm on
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Shawn Nelson level but i like about
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colin Meloy level I don't think I like
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anything on a column while level know
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your loss
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yeah but he's realized i'm talking to
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you on a radio and i just took a bite of
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a peanut butter and jelly sandwich
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that's that's disadvantageous to the
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listener
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mhm because no one wants to hear a sick
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person sandwich stick person had a
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peanut butter sandwich into a microphone
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I think for yourself short that's
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terrible
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I i like the guy that there i'm actually
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I think there's probably one girl out
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there that would listen to meet up being
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understanding which into a microphone
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don't say oh yeah that won't because
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then that not now there's gonna be like
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five girls who like ones into it for
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more scared I'm gonna wonder i wonder
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what I was like all five more like
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that's me but one of them is like that's
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I like ski bindings yeah and I can't
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even tell you what section this is a
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Naiad but like I just remember something
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like like the BN spent a lot of time
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like the biens first of all I had a hard
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time at first Learning Library of
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Congress because I come from the dewey
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decimal system but then pretty soon I
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look back on what the fuck is that what
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is doing decimal you've got to be
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fucking kidding me that's the most
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stupid like it just didn't make any
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sense you know and then i made a fancy
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school and alone the library of congress
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and never look back
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right that not the same thing with some
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procedures
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what's that it's like inches and miles
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somebody just somebody stuck their pinky
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out and said that's how long it is
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mm oh yes I understand it's not related
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to anything
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oh you mean inches and miles vs
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something like centimeters where there's
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something in a bell jar
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under this thing weighs a gram and
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that's the gold standard for measurement
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right right i can get behind that I also
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like the books I like we're near the
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beginning was pretty into that
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here's what I did and I did it from the
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beginning and this is another thing I
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learned from my dad
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I would walk into a library and I
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whatever their system was I would ignore
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it and I would go to the librarian and
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say here's what I need and then I would
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sit in the chair and read a magazine
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with the library and found all the
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oh no it was no I no carts for you it's
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a certain kind of you have to have a
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as a child to the library and get the
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librarian to do research like you're
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like you're ordering a french dip or
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something you're just like you'll need
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Henry exactly every house go you assume
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that they that that's what they want to
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me the books that i passed for they seem
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eager to please which I like
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well I bread think about being a
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librarian i mean i've i've loved a lot
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of librarians and it's a job that I that
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I i think i would be i would excel at
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that girl that girl was a library and I
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think we are you Barbara Gordon oh yeah
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oh yeah that explains a lot of that
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can't make you love a library I don't
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know what will that girl
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oh haha i did say you know it's good i
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mean i think that's a big part of the
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liberal arts is learning you've learned
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how to use a library i think that's big
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but again back to the ski bindings I
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think that and I'll speak for myself I
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don't like being the way I am but I look
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down my nose now Dewey Decimal take my
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daughter to our little library here and
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yeah you know like what are most books
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right in their novels there's a lot of
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well that's a no that's a whole section
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that's called F really that fits the
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decimal system like that you did not
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occur to you when you put it together
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there's a whole bunch of things called
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novels you all shit we're gonna need
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something for novels in our side decimal
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system so let's create eff you eff it
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doubles you know it's like that story
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about the it's probably a urban myths
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often look it up but that story about
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the you know
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engineering firm architects that we're
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having the the grand opening
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groundbreaking you know and I'm sorry
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but the grand opening I guess for this
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big beautiful glass glass library that
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is finally complete and spices this is
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amazing
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I can't believe this is strong enough to
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hold that many tons of books and the
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guys I ran out of the building because
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they never thought about having books in
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there and it sounds like bullshit but
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it's a great story
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have you been to the Seattle the
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downtown Seattle library the ugly one
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thank you no no I'm sorry is it sits
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brutalist is a brutalist architecture
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what is it i thought was is it
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yeah i think it's the white one kind of
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weird white one it's not white it's it's
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made out of glass it's a rim cool house
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design and it's one of these it's one of
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these public buildings that was built to
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to give the city of seattle some
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julienne its crown so that tourists from
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around the world would come look at our
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REM cool house building and on the
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outside it looks like a piece of Road
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tar made out of glass that you know that
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has no no no two parallel lines and on
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the inside people come in you you're
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standing in the library and you have to
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move out of the way of the crowds of
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sheep Walker being heard through to look
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at your glorious you know architectural
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edifice hear that to me looks like a
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spaceport in a a a minor planet in the
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data bus system that has been neglected
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for 800 years and it's you know it's
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already the light bulbs are burning out
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and the stair treads are getting worn it
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already looks like shit but people have
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been hurt through this thing like it's
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some kind of thing they need to see
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through their lives to be complete and I
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stand in the in the lobby of it and I
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and I do this on a weekly basis I go
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there and I shake my fist and scream and
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top of my voice and say it's a goddamn
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library it does it should that where are
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the books you can't even see the books
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there are no books it's a it's a they
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tried to make it some this is from 2004
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wells library Cass
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ya know it's a picture it's brand-new
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and here's the track is off
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Paul it's terrible here's the tragedy
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the original library that was on that
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step that ground huh was a carnegie
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library that was built it looks like oh
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my gosh chicago-style kinda it's
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gorgeous chicago-style like
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federal-style it's beautiful it looks
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like the San Francisco mint building
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right it's a giant arches it's double
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columns it's beautiful
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can you imagine reading a book in that
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building I'd read books that building
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like that is nice
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can't imagine it because they toured the
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freaking thing down before i was born in
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order to build the second incarnation of
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the Seattle library which looks like
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which looked like a regional post office
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it was built in that you know the
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original internationalist style which is
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an architectural style developed to
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compete with the Soviet Union in who can
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make the ugliest building in the world
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and it was a building that I swear to
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you you wouldn't even be with drive past
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at 60 times thinking I keep grabbing
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past this department of motor vehicles
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where is the library and that library
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was there my whole childhood and then
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they finally tore it down
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that was the library where you would get
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on an escalator and you'd be on the
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escalator and pretty soon you'll be on
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another escalator and pretty soon you'd
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be and you never saw a book once he was
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just you were going up escalators and
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down escalators so they built this room
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cool house building and it's one of
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these buildings in seattle if you say a
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bad word about this library seventy-five
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percent of the people in the town
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well will react as if you told them that
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their kid was ugly they get this look on
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his face like what no afraid Billy
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mommy's gonna send them into the corn
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oh that's a he's the genius it's a
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beautiful you know i just got to see the
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first fucking meeting I had with that
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guy i would see those eyeglasses and i
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would say thank you for your time
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you know I your man appreciates my
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glasses you can tell a lot about a
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person somebody walks in with glasses
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like that i would say no thanks and then
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what do you get out of it you got it
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looks like somebody's first was first
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semester and graphical arts class and
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they took something their first
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orthogonal drawing and made it out of
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chain-link fence it's an abortion of a
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building that
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ridiculous somewhere along the line here
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we have decided that if an architect if
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an architect doodles on a napkin that
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that is sufficient for him to be
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that's all the architect himself needs
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to do noodles on a napkin and then we're
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and then his team of young hungry
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assholes goes and converts that into
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some some kind of broken Rubik's Cube
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and then we spend 200 million dollars to
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put it in the center of our town
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I swear to you Merlin if you go to the
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Seattle library in pursuit of a book the
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the Sisyphean journey that you will go
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on to find the book you have to go
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through six or seven different its kind
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of different followers
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well yeah the books are the books are
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six stories up in a catacomb that you
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have that you can only access by
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elevator i'll come on
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yeah and then the rest of the library
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itself is like I say it's a spaceport
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you just keep waiting
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you keep waiting for the next barge the
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next transporter barge to you know CEOs
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to arrive and take all these people all
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these like you know the lobby full of
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tourists and homeless people
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masturbating and that they all just get
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hurt it onto the barge and off they go
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and ruin fills up again
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yeah I you know I you know more about
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all this stuff than I do i I don't I
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don't have a comfortable commenting
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accepted this is just really early awful
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i think empirically awful i just sent
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you a link to something I was at
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University of wisconsin-madison and they
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have a building there that I think
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you'll really enjoy
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it's called the it's called the moss
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humanities building and it's considered
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to be a is for better for such a great
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example of what they called brutalist
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architecture and boy is it ever brutal
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it's it first of all
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apparently it was designed and built a
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time when they're very worried about
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student riots so i'll show you as I'll
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show you in this photo you getting these
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little robot logo links yeah I had
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something beautiful yes everybody's
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throat by today they built originally
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had like a ramp that Evel Knievel would
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use to jump something and then fall
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imagine that is kind of like around the
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building so make sure it's a bunker
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it's a kind of Bunker exactly like but
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you can see even in the picture i just
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sent you can see the mildew
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apparently this place was so poorly
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designed they put the music department
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in the basement and so the cellos are
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wilting think it's just pure like it's
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like that sick building syndrome all
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over the place like all this crap don't
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know none of the dorms at my college
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were built by idesign my IM Pei and who
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is another one of these yo-yos so I mean
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like we had to buy the if you want to
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replace the door and had to come from
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Germany you know some people here like
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the doors gonna change some toilet paper
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that six thousand dollars you know that
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they don't think this stuff through and
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it's heinous it's like willfully heinous
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you know it's like it's like you know
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the Duchamp journal thing except not
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people get to play cello in that that
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the universities all around the world
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were on America built this kind of
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architecture during that era university
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of washington the main square the
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University of Washington is literally
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designed so that you can turn a fire
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hose on a kid at one end of the square
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and hose him all the way across the
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square and off the university like it is
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designed to be able to fire hose project
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designed by terry gilliam basically a
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Bigfoot comes down they were building
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all these university campuses after
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basically they were forced to let blacks
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into the university's right this is they
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integrated the schools they were warrant
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and then they were like oh shit
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now there are blacks in the universities
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and what are they going to do they're
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going to start protesting we need to we
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need to open these room open this area
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up so we can really get a good shot with
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our fire hoses they hate fire hoses
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well that's true i mean basically all
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ethnic people hate fire hoses I think
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they think the black really don't like
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fire resistance from the time but they
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got a good reasons to not like the
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services I there are some there are some
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iconic pictures that would give us write
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idea board if I cut some things out of
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magazines you cut up some ribbons and
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I find this very compelling argument for
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the functionality of the space
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shut up classes makes me so angry I
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don't you see how ugly that building is
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that it's terrible and i guarantee that
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they tore down a beautiful you know
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Gothic Revival lot of the library
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building or student center or something
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they tore it down thinking that it was
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obsolete and may and write that a tad
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bit every University ever went to I was
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always in I was always in some wing of
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the humanities where you know there are
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there are the practical sciences and
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then there are the humanities which are
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impractical and then as you move further
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clouds on the the fruity arts approve
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yards as you move further out in the
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humanities it gets less and less and
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less practical you go past the poetry
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department which is which one would
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think is the is the height or the apex
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or the the furthest out on the wing of
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the impracticality but no you can go
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further and that's where i lived at the
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University way out there and invariably
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the classrooms that they would assign us
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for our comparative history of ideas
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lecture halls were always in the science
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buildings that were slated for
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demolition because the English
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department has all the rooms at the
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school with the leaded glass windows and
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the and the book is your finger speakers
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crashing and the smell of formaldehyde
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you're trying to you're trying to think
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about Alexander Pope Oh way worse than
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that I mean you're out there where the
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wires are hanging from the ceiling and
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that there are Bunsen burners that have
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been left on because if they turn them
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off the gas will weaken the building
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will explode so we have the fire
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department
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it's like it's like a really dangerous
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italian restaurant and these are the
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rooms allocate for the you know for the
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comparative history of ideas because the
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because those buildings were built for
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two years ago at the data that goes with
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the height of technology at the time now
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they've fallen apart the science
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departments are having new buildings
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built for them and say what is it just
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me or are the science people always
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getting a new building they get new
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buildings science people get new
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buildings of my sculptures for that
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building before the throw a bone to the
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literature people if you went to
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Stanford right now and declared an
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English major
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I bet you they would just chain you to a
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bike rack
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no yeah we have 11 quanta type and where
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this little one of those little desks
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not even a full desk it's like each
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government put your left arm on it
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yeah and everyone has to share it one
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death while while there while they're
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busy busy
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scraping the land in order to build a
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new I don't know applied sciences
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building right and that's that
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universities are just they don't care
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about books show up ago we won't need a
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new hydrogen collider and you go sounds
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great and somebody goes it was a
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hydrogen collide and like don't be a
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dick its cycles it's not you know what
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to me this is the Dewey Decimal people
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this is the REM koolhaas people we've
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seen this again and again John and it's
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the way people think I think I mentioned
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this to you that mas building is the
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humanities building cellos cold wet
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cellos nobody likes a wet cello look
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good you going to put the thought that
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through you get some guy here is sitting
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around doing whatever whatever organic
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chemistry is like that couldn't be in a
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wet building
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let's see this is the this is the thumb
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literally in the eye of the liberal arts
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this is what we're dealing with
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and I think this is why the the Congress
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people are always going to be the duties
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the congressman in that library of
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congress occurs
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that's the look terrible on a jacket
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believe what looks like the consulate
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cons locks the locks honors honors locks
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of the locks always great like the
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Socialists in what is which one is that
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as something that has Sen hmm well in my
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high school the lotions could call the
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lotion some lotion the lotions versus
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the duties
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so I think it Dewey ram cool house to me
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like he acts like he's a lush but I
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think he's totally a dewy I think he
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comes into guys wrap black dot block he
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comes in this picture is just making me
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angrier and angrier i will post this is
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shown it's it's him bending over
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he was some kind of fucking german Steve
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Jobs these goofy glasses and he's
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looking at this little model I even hate
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looking at the model of the Seattle
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library its it without daily basis in
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with the kids Loescher doing
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mm he's very sensitive and that makes
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the mud do we probably a dewy mm I think
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if you've been doing the kind of the
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children moisture that people like you
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and I have you noticed a Richard Hugo
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big Loesch super-low see him do it a lot
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of cello moisture
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40-44 here where there's the problem
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with losses though who don't know how to
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stand up for ourselves you know there
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was decided that that campus and i'm
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sure some Tweety some tweety tweety
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fucking te guy came in some twenty do he
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came in and said well I'm actually I i
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think we would like some windows in the
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music department and they're like sounds
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name all you're saying is he was too
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little too moist of a lush they're all
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too moist he didn't do we up to do is
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it's just like the Republicans right
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this is the conservative not to go
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political but the thing is does those
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guys stick together right
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well there was a time here not to go
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back to my dad again I'm always talking
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about my but you cannot talk too much
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about your dad as far as I'm concerned
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but my dad was a was part of an era
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where where he was a vigorous liberal
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democrat you know what I mean he was a
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Democrat and a liberal and heat and he
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defended those principles with a kind of
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with a kind of vigor that is utterly
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absent from that wing of the political
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spectrum now you know my dad would get
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into fights in bars on the waterfront
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over liberal politics you know
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liberalism was was a thing that was that
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that that it was muscular is very
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muscular Union see
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you had rankings you have you had you
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had the sort of people who but who if if
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they didn't believe in communism exactly
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they did believe that social justice was
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sweeping the world and it was an active
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and and muscular political philosophy
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and that now is completely gone her or
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anyone who has anyone who has a modicum
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of liberal thought in their mind has
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been so so a cultured to thinking that
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they need to apologize for themselves
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for existing first and foremost you know
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I'm sorry pardon me I i know that this
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is just my opinion but here
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here are some ideas that i that i had
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and i am sorry if they offend you
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this this kind of like constant
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reflexive apology
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it is so panty wasted was very
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undignified it's undignified and end it
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and it presumes that your ideas aren't
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strong it presumes that you're that
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you're that you're the tenants of your
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philosophy are worth our were standing
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and and and actually you know putting
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your hand up about but yeah you get to
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be like a creepy kid in junior high is
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always getting his ass kicked and so
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then he becomes very you know receding
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around people but he's fine
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you know like fucking a cat and killing
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it becomes things right so I all the
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muscularity his personality goes into
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cat fucking and cat homicide think I
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think that's a capital cat offense that
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leads to harder crimes heart you can get
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a seeking a super-hard crimes out of a
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cat i think that's that's where it
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starts that you start to look for the
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people who are killing the cats you're
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going to find a seriously failed Loesch
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you know where you find those fortune
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all sure they make a picture of it
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yeah I I i actually agree with you and
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if I as I don't you know I'm not a
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physician but I think right now have you
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considered the fact that you are so ill
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right now that you get 60 hard could be
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somewhat related to to tell the boys
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jure maybe you've been in too many maybe
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you got sick building syndrome
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you got the same problem is the people
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in the random awesome massey humanity
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oh my god is writing the name moss sea
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moss but it's spelled with an e on its
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it says it right on there could you
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fucking only a do
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would name a humanities building massey
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oh it's literally a thumb in the eye of
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the liberal on Paul Massey it's so wet
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that has a moss
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so you're saying i have some kind of
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congenital black mold syndrome from
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spending all those years in the basement
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of humanity's buildings i'm saying you
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start out and think of it as a
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concentric circle at the mill you got
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all the duties you agree that
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everything's okey-dokey and let's talk
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about chemistry whatever that means you
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start moving on concentric circles you
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go further and further way right get
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somebody teaching Conrad and that people
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put up with that you go a little further
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you got the people intelligent bad word
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said about Conrad see that everybody
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agrees with that but you go a little bit
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further out i think you get to the
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poetry department where everything is
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made out of feathers and memories of
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chicken soup and let you go a little bit
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further out and hearing the comparative
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idea section
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yeah everything's wet you're chained to
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a bike rack is not a fucking ram cool
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house and seitan mm you know I'm saying
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you're looking across the campus at the
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glittering towers of the the new physics
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building right and you've got then
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you've got constant junk divide us to
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bring the assumptions like Brigadoon and
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you keep all your box right next to you
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because you don't want to have to go up
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six stories fucking REM koolhaas put in
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an elevator
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thanks for a cool house with a gram he
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absolutely okay and what do they speak
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is it looked and finally speak Dutch
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no they don't speak Dutch and
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Liechtenstein which was that was at
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Luxembourg but well you know in
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Luxembourg there's just a tiny tiny tiny
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little bit of dutch ish German you know
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that there's a there's a there's a
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there's a there's such a thing is there
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such a thing John really as duchess
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German there is there's a continuum from
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Netherlands you're not even trying at
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this point and you're speaking Dutch
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with such a German accent in inventors
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bike that you more intelligible to the
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Germans across the border than you are
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to the to the Dutch say in 10 hog
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the language is very it's a bit its I'm
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gonna find him I'm gonna find a place
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that sells maps and I'm gonna buy one
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mhm and all yes I think you're thinking
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of the valley near farfegnugen know how
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i look at this time let's design design
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61.7 a square miles luxembourg a bulky
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998 square miles Luxembourg's got farms
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I mean Luxembourg's a proper country
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more than one it's a dookie let's be
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honest right it's a teaching but but say
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it back in the old days right yet a
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bishop had a bishop in monster which is
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in Germany but that Bishop was
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responsible for for ministering to his
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flock throughout all of what they called
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moon stir lond which is this area that
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encompass Germany but also part of the
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netherlands and part of luxembourg
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little bit of what's now belgium so this
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Bishop was the head ecclesiastical
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Authority but also sort of the because
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the Big Cheese government she's doing do
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your lush the bishop and while there
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were several bishops of monster but you
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could be either one
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it was my camera mmm i'm gonna say that
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they were all i'm going to say they were
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oh yeah i think you could be either huh
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IC yeah i see a political I see a
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political religious person is frequently
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being a dewy well sure but some of them
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some of them were were total OSHA's I
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mean you know you get you yet you had to
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be a bean counter
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mmm minutes it's like it's like the
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Pope's write some of the popes were poor
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total lotions the board Gia's or
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whatever they were they were it was date
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raped from head to toe and then I
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appreciate the Borgias where the people
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and analyse and now i'm pretty sure make
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it up I think you're talking about the
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people in the in Florence isn't the
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Borgias you don't think there were bored
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you Pope's who's the guy to play piano
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that's Victor Victor uh structure port
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or and has nothing he has nothing to do
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with senor wences is that right
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I don't think he does know that's a
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difference
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seemed like they should have worked
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together at some point I think they were
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both on the Dean Martin program if it's
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Sullivan they're both mine and sultan
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episode 15 plus they're both amusing in
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a way that made a lot more sense to our
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grandparents i love senor wences still
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picture board he was a great piano
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player he was a comedian that was that
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was very amusing very amusing you you
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could you be very easy a funny guy and
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then you say oh look at piano and you
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sit down and you dazzle your guests no
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coward noel coward right Steve and I owe
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yok and maybe you know quarter before
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the horse fell on him Cole Porter's
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yours no more than 180 I like that man
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horse right now he said he was stuck
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under a horse he wrote a song with a
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horse on it
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did you know that no I didn't know that
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but I didn't know that his house in in
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connecticut was for sale
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Cole Porter's house you could buy it huh
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it's like a regular house is like a cool
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house no it's a cool very cool house but
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now i'm sorry the house right that
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generally cool house
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yeah you know there's just so much see
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this is this is what george orwell
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talked about in that essay i'm just
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saying cool house he put school in his
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name and house in his name and now you
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can't help but thinking of him when you
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see an actual cool house was bullshit
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you can I just say it's funny enough to
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me that the people who are so obsessed
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with these three digit numbers are the
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duties when it's our cellos that truly
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have the dew on them aren't playing
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cello III III think I i I'm not sure I
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could I couldn't Pepsi challenge even a
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violin or viola you know but I'm just
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saying this is partly ok this is this is
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what the lake I talks about right this
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is this is it all gets very confusing
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because those guys stick together we're
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confused in moist right this is what
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happened to Gore because of Florida you
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know we don't stick to our guns and I
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just think it's a shame to have to walk
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so far to think about ideas that's not
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you're paying tuition like anybody else
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right well but this this goes back to
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all the complaining all the liberal
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complaining which is that at the at the
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at the core of it if you have you
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support capitalism if you believe that
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capitalism is the highest form of of
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economic evolution
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you believe the capitalism is ultimately
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value neutral or good even even better
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than value-neutral good if you believe
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capitalism trends toward good then all
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this stuff just follows from it you
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can't you can't argue against the
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comparative history of ideas being put
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into a wet mop bucket at the bottom of a
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well without without ultimately having
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to say what have the comparative history
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of ideas graduates ever produced in
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terms of money that would enable us to
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keep the lights on at this university
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and the answer is nothing and so here's
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your wet mop bucket
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mhm have a peanut butter and jelly
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sandwich and trying to get over your
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cold if you if you believe in capitalism
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and you believe that all things are
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being gradually sucked into the to the
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orbit of the black hole of capital
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capitalist thought then you have to have
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you have to prove have to prove with
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some kind of bottom line what did this
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urn us what it does make for us
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what did this create any wealth for
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metrics metrics and you cannot and and
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that's the problem with us pantywaists
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we stand and say but what about the
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wealth of ideas and there's somebody
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special in that voice there's someone
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with the best classic classic lotion
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voice yeah what about the wealth of
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ideas and the guy with the aluminum
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baseball bat who started a company to
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manufacture aluminum baseball bats wax
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you on the back of the head your back in
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the mop bucket and life goes merrily
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along with something something in the
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center of campus is very fine with the
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Erlenmeyer flask which literally have
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numbers right on them they can count
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they know how much is in this titration
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whatever the fuck that means you come to
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us we're sitting with a big free ebook
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you go on 30 pages and they say what
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does that literally even mean right does
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it literally what does it literally mean
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you know and they want to look at thirty
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percent of pie graph and you know i'm
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looking at this book it's a pretty big
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book and they say they say that well
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what is the value that please get back
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in your mop bucket getting your mop
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bucket boy that i have this experience
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every time I go to a professional sports
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game witches instead it's a wednesday
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afternoon
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I'm sitting them in the Mariners stadium
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watching a baseball game and I look
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around and if the team is doing well if
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the team's even doing it passably well I
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mean the Mariners never really do well
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but if they're doing passably well I
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look around it's three o'clock in the
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afternoon on Wednesday and there's
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40,000 people in the stadium and I think
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what was the last time there was a rock
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concert in this town that had 40,000
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people at it in the middle of the day in
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the middle of the day on a wednesday and
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the answer is well Kenny Chesney is the
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last time that that happened and then I
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ask it again
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Kenny Chesney not a rock artist was the
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last rock concert that had 40,000 people
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in the middle of Seattle and in all
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honesty i think the last time that
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happened was well maybe you too but
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before that it was the rolling stones of
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the kingdom in 1975 I was gonna say
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pearl jam i can see Pearl Jam or seven
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minutes sound is the Pearl Jam drawing a
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bunch of people in the middle of the day
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at the height of their powers perhaps
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business program station on satellite
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did you know that i'm sure there is a
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priest ringing I'll bring Bruce
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Springsteen Elvis Grateful Dead Pearl
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Jam has their own station on a satellite
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think the program's put out 10 10
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think the program's put out 10 10
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albums or something I mean you could you
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could play you can have a pearl jam
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radio station that never played the same
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song to thank you think they're out in
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1000 was at their second album the
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second i was ten worst album the first
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up was 10
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yeah let me down hits the bull bear bear
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breathe i don't know i don't like saying
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that but just sometimes we'll just be
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driving around go
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I mean yo son I don't not happy doing
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that but it just comes out i think they
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could probably do it
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the other question Jon I know you don't
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have a job you I mean you have a job of
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a kind that you're an extremely busy
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rock artist
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what do you think most people do for a
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living do you think they're playing
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hooky from something else to come and
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watch sports other sports people because
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many costs money to go to the the King
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down the mirror dome
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I know but they're all down there all
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down at those offices and their boss
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also wants to go to the game
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it's like they're to go to a mariners
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game in the afternoon is not to be
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skipping work it is to be it is to say i
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am and i am someone who i am a
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Renaissance man
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kaalia kaalia de yeah not only my work
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but I'm also us i'm also going to the
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sports i am like a Greek god I i do the
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work and I do the sports and then I do
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that I go to the movies and I have all
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of the I have everything I need I am all
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the culture that I need I have a wife
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we eat food we are complete
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mhm and it's it's it's we who are not at
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the sports game
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who are the the faulty ones we are the
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broken ones who are not living according
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to a platonic ideal because we shun the
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sports and we shun the well in my case
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the wife
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mhm mhm and we shun the work and so what
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are we but a but a a sick sick sick and
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under hail one hearty denizen of mop
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buckets
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