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315: Show Some Respect for the Chimp

 

00:00:00   come see the Cassidy and comfortable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   many other podcasts at the now hear this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2">TS</a>]

00:00:04   festival in anaheim california October [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4">TS</a>]

00:00:07   28 through 30th go to now hear this vest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/7">TS</a>]

00:00:11   dot-com for more information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/11">TS</a>]

00:00:15   the incomparable number 315 artists 2060 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/15">TS</a>]

00:00:23   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   incomparable it's another edition of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   what we like to call old movie club our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   movie grab and in this edition we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/30">TS</a>]

00:00:33   going to be talking about sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/33">TS</a>]

00:00:36   boulevard from 1950 and stat like 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   from 1953 now Philip Michael's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   picks the movies and I wanted to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   Phil right up front here it is the theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   so these movies directed by billy wilder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   he had a hand in the script they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   William Holden and is that what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   theme you're looking for here or is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/54">TS</a>]

00:00:55   movies that strangely have famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   directors in bit parts is that also was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   thinking that movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   yes Bavarian Bavarian adjacent film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   directors again supporting roles this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   was the theme it's a very important part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   of cinema later tonight we'll little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   later tonight we'll be watching grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   illusion and talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   alright it was just it was good to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   erich von stroheim have auto premature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/76">TS</a>]

00:01:20   as he was meant to be seen and cecil b [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   demand accessibility mill absolute last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   Turkey and also a director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   yes it's true alright let me introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/86">TS</a>]

00:01:27   the the panel you already heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   Philip Michaels and you heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   buster keaton and erich von stroke and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   referring to is here to everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   buster keaton had to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/95">TS</a>]

00:01:36   also joining us Monty Ashley hello hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   Steve Lutz is here hello hooray it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/100">TS</a>]

00:01:44   yay india echo is also here hi Andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   adding I damn more'n sign in signing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/107">TS</a>]

00:01:53   here I excellent Erica enzyme hi present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/113">TS</a>]

00:01:58   and shannon sudderth hello hello I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/118">TS</a>]

00:02:02   big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03   it's the podcast that got small you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/123">TS</a>]

00:02:06   you're telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/126">TS</a>]

00:02:07   yeah alright uh Phil where should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/127">TS</a>]

00:02:11   start to restore chronologically with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   some simple over and start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   chronologically with sunset boulevard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   because i think it frames the William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/135">TS</a>]

00:02:19   Holden we run into a few years later in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   a in a little bit better light but I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   sunset boulevard the most recently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   it's committed to memory now so um yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/145">TS</a>]

00:02:28   so the the movie opens up and William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   holding his dead whoops not affected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   yeah he's able to boil errs through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/154">TS</a>]

00:02:38   voiceover which I'm sure that we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   discuss the effectiveness of it later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   yeah so William Paul it will be million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   polden William Holden is floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50   facedown William Lordan yes that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   folks floating facedown in the pool shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/173">TS</a>]

00:02:57   shot to pieces and telling us hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00   want to know how I got here will let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   tell ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/182">TS</a>]

00:03:03   let's go to a flashback where he is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   screen writer in Hollywood who is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   doing up terribly well for himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   people are coming to repossess his car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   he can't sell a movie to save his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15   not to up not to faint character actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   Frank 4i i always get Fred Clark I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/198">TS</a>]

00:03:22   always forget him confused with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   yes guy whose name is Frank count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   something else other right Frank Nelson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   thank you Frank Nelson and fred clark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   they're very similar to mustachioed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33   balding men who were famous in their day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   anyhow fred clark doesn't want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   any of William Holden movies uh he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42   driving back the car repo men see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   he's his car wasn't loaned out like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   said it was and they they we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   chase sequence which is unusual for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   Billy Wilder movie but there you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/231">TS</a>]

00:03:54   William Holden ends up taking shelter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   a mansion on the titular Sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00   Boulevard which is owned by fading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03   silent movie star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04   Norma Desmond as played by fading silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/244">TS</a>]

00:04:07   movie star Gloria Swanson and it is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/247">TS</a>]

00:04:12   this point that we learned that Gloria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   Swanson is or at least as Norma Desmond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/253">TS</a>]

00:04:17   is well checked out from reality still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/257">TS</a>]

00:04:21   thinks that the next big part is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   to be just a just a phone call away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   in fact she is in writing a script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28   herself that will launch her her great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   comeback in which he finds out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   William Holden is himself a scriptwriter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   she insisted he reads it which is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   William Holden who we should mention is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   is is a pretty scuzzy little fella hits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/278">TS</a>]

00:04:42   upon the theory that well all dr. her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/282">TS</a>]

00:04:46   script and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   I doubt here from my creditors and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   make some some cash to pay them off arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   and thus begins the the plot where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56   gets here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57   clutching her clutches deeper and deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   into him he becomes are the kept man uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/299">TS</a>]

00:05:03   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   she falls for him and he wants nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/305">TS</a>]

00:05:09   to do with her because she's 50 gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   haha he was on like in real life he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/312">TS</a>]

00:05:17   12 years younger than her when they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   this movie so it was like it's like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   about it guys it's in his defense she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/321">TS</a>]

00:05:25   not well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   no no they just look old she just looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   crazy great yeah they they make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   deliberate choices on how to present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   Gloria Swanson this movie which I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   we'll talk about later as well on a we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/336">TS</a>]

00:05:41   should mention that uh William Holden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   keeps having run-ins with a script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   reader at the studio of Betty shapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   the character's name the actresses nancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   olson and no she's dating a surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/351">TS</a>]

00:05:55   Pepe Jack Webb the peppiest Jack weapon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   you ever see Ronnie too i did not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01   to double take when i looked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   yeah um the they begin working on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/363">TS</a>]

00:06:07   script together and they began quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/367">TS</a>]

00:06:10   clearly falling for each other this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   which is complicated because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14   William Holden is a kept man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   Gloria Swanson's a jealous woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   William Holden finally has enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   decides to leave and we can get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   details of that later i'm just trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   some of the plot quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   ah and that's when Gloria Swanson plugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/387">TS</a>]

00:06:30   and full of holes and has her final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/390">TS</a>]

00:06:31   psychic break with reality leading to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/391">TS</a>]

00:06:35   the famous scene where the police come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   together come to get her and the a4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   mentioned erich von stroheim who was who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   is both her butler and the first husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   was happens and a and a former director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/405">TS</a>]

00:06:49   of connives the way to get her out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   the house is to pretend that she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   again in a movie and she descends down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   the stairs well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   erich von stroheim is yelling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/417">TS</a>]

00:06:58   direction and it's very haunting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   horrifying and that's when she delivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   that besides get the middle is ready for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   my close-up mr. DeMille I'm ready for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   close-up that is probably the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   most famous line in the movie besides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   I'm still bigots the pictures that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   small and and movie and but eventually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/434">TS</a>]

00:07:18   guess they fish William Holden out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/438">TS</a>]

00:07:21   the pool center later they sure let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   float for a long time no see he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   he's gonna he's gonna pickle in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   right Lu so I'm Matt that's the movie in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/447">TS</a>]

00:07:30   a nutshell and down didn't take us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   onto something up moving on to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   like seven no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   wow you really blasted through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   field AI wanted to wanted to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   plot out of the way so that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   have time to interrupt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   yeah well I that was my goal to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   bottom that would ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   so let's go back to the beginning yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   okay I yield the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/469">TS</a>]

00:07:53   well my first know was that I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/473">TS</a>]

00:07:54   was really cool that we could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55   started zoomed in on the street sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   that says Sunset Boulevard but we start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   facedown in the gutter Enzo yeah looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   at on Sunset Boulevard painted on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   curb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/484">TS</a>]

00:08:04   yep which kind of tells you where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   story's gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   I like how it screams film two are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   you exactly like double identity where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13   you have all of the hallmarks of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   voiceover you have the derringer saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   so I'm already dead when this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   stars don't expect a happy ending now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/499">TS</a>]

00:08:23   see that threw me for a loop because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   looks different enough floating in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   pool and and film from underneath that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   wasn't certain that it was him in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   for a long time I didn't think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   him and I kept waiting for than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   this new character to arrive that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   gonna get shot and end up floating in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37   the pool and in fact he starts off as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   the narrator calling himself a poor dope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   at which point i wrote down you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   pretty rough when even the narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   cause you poured oh but it turns out it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   was him so that makes a lot more sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   but yeah that I I was kind of thrown off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/530">TS</a>]

00:08:53   by that I think that was a byproduct of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   how they had to shoot the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   underwaters in the because i had to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/538">TS</a>]

00:09:01   mirrors because they couldn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/541">TS</a>]

00:09:02   clear shot with the camera underwater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   and protected in any way and also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   police you the police detectives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/547">TS</a>]

00:09:11   wouldn't have shown up clearly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   shot either so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13   I think that's why William Holden kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   of looks odd and not himself when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   on he's floating upside bill just hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   your breath for another 5 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   we've got the shadow set up the can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25   start with just the question of Weiss i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   have a dead guy narrate the story as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31   opposed to simply start off with ok he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   on the run from creditors and we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   know how this story is going to end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   why was the why do you think that choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   was made well like I said it's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   a film our staple really its to tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   audience this does not have a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/586">TS</a>]

00:09:46   so that the whole time you're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   it even the brief moments of completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/588">TS</a>]

00:09:52   under dr visit my I think the moment he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   decides that moving in with Gloria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57   Swanson instead of running in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   direction other than that way including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   prism is not as a way to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   I think that's when we know that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   things are not going to work on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   will not end well i like i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   whole movie in retrospect though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   wonder if that was just kind of flashy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   if you if they started it straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   I don't know if we would've been better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/614">TS</a>]

00:10:15   better known for any worse I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   as a movie viewer I i'm always sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   counting on the happy ending so I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   like my experience watching this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   would have been very very different if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26   they had just gone instead I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   expected the happy ending with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   because you know they really built up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   his relationship with the little script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   writer lady and you know be it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/633">TS</a>]

00:10:37   like looks like things could work out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38   for him and the only reason that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   only reason that I'm not you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   rooting for that is because I know and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   appreciate a pet now it adds to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   emotional punch towards the end it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   that he himself has become a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   person but he's at least sort of trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   to do the right thing he guides Betty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/654">TS</a>]

00:10:57   back to her fiance and breaks it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   with her pretty cruelly but he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   look you know this is the only way she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   gonna believe me and he sets her back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   out of his life and then he's working to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   take himself out of Norma's life hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   that you know she'll get over him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   then she'll go back to her happy fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   and things will be okay and he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   go back home to Ohio so in his own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   he's trying to do the right thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   yet you know what's coming in that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   of makes it a little more wrenching I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   found out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/686">TS</a>]

00:11:27   good move on his part and and I i took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   from that William Holden this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   full of self-loathing and also load is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   everything about Hollywood at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   because i think it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/696">TS</a>]

00:11:36   moment where you sort of it I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   anyway that he's either going to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   Betty away and stay or he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   leave with Betty and instead he pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/705">TS</a>]

00:11:49   her away and makes to leave like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   know you need to go do something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53   that's not with me and I need to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   of here and I I thought that was a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   was a moment of surprise for me even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   though knowing that he's gonna get shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   that he's so you know he's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   even try to make it work with Betty he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   knows that it's no good she needs to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   to her boyfriend and go back to him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   and and just get him get William Holden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/729">TS</a>]

00:12:13   out of her life I always said I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   surprised by that he does he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   knocks down the whole house of cards you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   know kinda on the way out i see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   suckers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   yeah he's the one who pushes her into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   madness finally by well short trips yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   it wasn't it was a gentle push but look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   at the butler whose name i cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   remember what matters right max that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   it after starting our letters by writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   the better make fan letters and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   her still think that she's wanted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   then yeah it's really William Holden who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   cares down that sort of the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45   desired madhouses our old car yeah it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/765">TS</a>]

00:12:49   currently strange to me that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   narration never makes a note of the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   when it gets to the point where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   been shot that oh yeah that's me I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   floating in the pool i'm dead and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   just kind of goes on and and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   talking about stuff that he can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   possibly have known about places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   hovering over as a ghost that's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   bothered me i feel like the narration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   should stop once your character is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   accepting we start with the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   that one anymore he could be dying else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   then this is all covered in Sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   Boulevard to okay i love i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   about the narration that first thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   hear is hey I'm dead that's me floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   there let me tell you how I got to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   point is you're like but you're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   did it's like yeah but I'm the narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   too so I got another job to wait before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/810">TS</a>]

00:13:34   i descend into hell I got a few more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/814">TS</a>]

00:13:35   things to tell you about a mutual friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   and I of Jason and minds i used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   describe the open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   the movie as I can't believe that crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   broad shot i don't have the whole movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   is like his last thoughts like ya light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   flashing before I doesn't hold up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   because you that only the dragon his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   corpse out of the pool and he still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   yammering along in the dryer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   no he's now in the afterlife as a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   narrator that's his name rigor mortis is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   that it that's as hell he's gonna not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   participate in the worst possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   narrative conventions of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   voice-over the alcohol left me my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/845">TS</a>]

00:14:08   puffy as it was I don't know where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   water's gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/850">TS</a>]

00:14:11   closed casket closed casket I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/851">TS</a>]

00:14:14   lay out all my cards out on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   I don't like the narration yeah it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/856">TS</a>]

00:14:19   really necessary i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   overdoing I like it but again just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   because it makes it such a film noir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   movie it is into our that yeah i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   agree it's sort of plays up to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   narration in film noir I think works out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   you need to have someone specific point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   of view you can have an armistice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   Commission point of view in this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   have to have here is what i'm seeing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   the time remember that in this into any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   entire mansion has been its itself as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42   fantasy land that's built up so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   this one woman thinks that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   makes sense and everybody who's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   that fantasy has been building into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   for so long and with such conviction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   that they don't believe it but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   don't question it anymore so you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56   have a narrator who says oh my god I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   the first one to walk into this monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   house who's telling everybody you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   realize how bad it smells in here even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   love your soul you don't smell exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   it's literally a monkey yeah that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/907">TS</a>]

00:15:12   that smell is the dead chimps oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   the character can't really express that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   because if he does then his little ruse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   about you know ghost writing your script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   is ruined so i guess it makes sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   has to be done via narrow my God he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   literally ghostwriting it lady your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   house reeks is not gonna work is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   also a little bed I detected a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/928">TS</a>]

00:15:31   bit from the very beginning that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   knows that the script is not going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   anywhere but there's some part from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   same wait a minute and i know that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   basically a basically gigolo for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   for this woman but I'm now for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   time actually being paid to work on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   script for a big star who can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   get on the lot now that he thinks gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   go it's gonna go anywhere but maybe at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   some point he's instead of being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   person who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/954">TS</a>]

00:15:54   get anything going anywhere at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   even himself when he got with somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   gets into the orbit of this this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   crazy house can say well now i'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   actual working screenwriter met the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   bottom of the wrong but at least i'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   the ladder right now but by that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   he's already kind of given up on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   right like he goes in he's like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   I've given up on writing i basically I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   just a kept man like he starts I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   starts out there down that path but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/974">TS</a>]

00:16:17   you wear his he could have pursued that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   further and try to you know push it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   eventually sort of gives up and resigns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   himself to the life of being a kept man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   there's a key scene that I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   which is like the last little bit of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   soul getting sold away he tries to exert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   some professionalism and editorial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   authority over her terrible screenplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   and says this whole scene needs to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   out we don't need to see you do this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   she said you don't need to be in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   scene and she said yes I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   he's like all right back in I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   I feel like the last straw is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   when the car which is his ostensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:51   reason for being there is dragged away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   registration spite of his efforts iin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   yet i was thinking the the scene at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   New Year's party where he rushes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   because she's tried to kill herself you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   know because he's almost out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:04   he's a lot of bad there's a lot of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   happened but he goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   yeah I like um i want to mention I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   like a lot of the Hollywood wraparound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   stuff here that is not like the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   plot but it's just that this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   trappings of this film or so glorious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19   his a pitch to try and get his scripts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:22   old which is where he meets Betty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:26   she doesn't like his script there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   the producer throws off the horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   baseball movie that yes you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   making a girl's softball team that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   killed me that was just so great and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   later what you know what later we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   some more of the Hollywood stuff when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   she goes and meets this will be the mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   and they're there at the studio and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:44   put the spotlight on on her and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   that it's like I really liked that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   of the end waxworks poker game where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   has the famous silent movie stars over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   to play poker at her house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   relax when they never say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   that's also such a sweet moment to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   he goes back to the set they the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   there are excited to see here the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   she worked with love her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   really want to see her and even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   person even the people who have not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   part of this fantasy for the past 10 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   years ago I cannot break this woman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   heart and tell her why she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   mistakenly but that she's under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   impression that we wanted back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   set because we love her too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   literally only when the spotlight is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   her which I thought was such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:25   mind a second they pull it off everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   dissolves and walks away and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   boom mike comes down she spots like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   a fly this is hovering down i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   scene because they had the sense not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:38   make a whole new set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   Cecil B DeMille working director have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42   said he was shooting on just went over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   there and use that I love everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   like that in every movie like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   especially especially knowing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   had to they still had a rent and book a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   huge movie crane and huge lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   system just to be in front of the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   camera the actual lighting system they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   rented I love every scene like that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   enjoy the biliousness of of billy wilder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:05   towards hollywood because they're when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   they're doing that the pitch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   softball movie they're naming these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   actors that could play the right card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   and a greater William Demarest yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15   there's a throwaway line about you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16   have rejected gone with the wind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   that was many was no that was me here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:23   who wants to see a civil war picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26   yeah I think that's probably the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   for me the most fascinating thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   the movie is the fact that it got made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   at all given that you know Hollywood has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   to be projecting this view of the Dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   Factory and you know I these workers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   all they love each other and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   this wondrous rainbow land where nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   bad ever happens and I'm sure the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   that all of these silent actors were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   basically sidelined and and a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   percentage of them probably were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   silently nuts in there the laminated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   mansions you know thinking of the glory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   days is not something that they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:58   to get out there but it's funny how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   movies i feel like use that whole trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   to of like well talking talkies didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   agree with the segment pictures when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:06   yeah that's true but there were what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   like 20 years of of silent pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   before there were there were like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   know now been like a year to the talkies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   we're still very focused on that and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:16   other joke that I want to mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   that I thought was a nice securing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19   Hollywood is where he describes some a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:22   screenplay that he did work on that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   might have seen and he said I wrote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   was about okies in the dust bowl by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   time i got may be played out on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28   torpedo boat it's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   it's just i love i love to just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   the whole citizens of Hollywood and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   I mean these are the same jokes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   people make today about Hollywood is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37   isn't it is not different but i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   that there is that moment like wow this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   is pretty lacerating for a movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   you know obviously got made with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   budget and became a became famous I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   not surprised about that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   Hollywood loves movies about itself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   it is pretty lacerating the factor get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   it but it also wound up like playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   well in the bigger cities and not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58   very well in like small towns and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   wasn't up for several years as it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:04   released it ended by then become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   something of a classic that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   solidified that's not surprising right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   at me as so many sort of Insider E [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   things they they play well to the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13   who actually are are on the insides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   weird that well Wilder was so given to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19   those jokes given that you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   that at that point in his career if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   wrote a script he could be pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   that's what's going to show up in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   movie right now and then we'll get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:31   this later installments 17 but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   apparently the studio suggested maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:37   not making it a German prison camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38   because they want to tell you are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   wanted to sell it show it in Germany and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   the and that was polish prison guards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   yeah and that was the light and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   ended up being the last movie he made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   for that studio so so he he had is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:53   opinions and they were generally write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   about things I i guess i gave him short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   shrift during the during the summary but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   the erich von stroheim i really like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   performance and he's very good yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   really here it's all the notes of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   of being just heartbroken for throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:10   yeah even for his part in that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   what he gave up he could have been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   a lot of directors that made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   transition very very well and he was as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   big as they say he was he could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   have made it big but he was bit his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   career was this person and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   another case where you see again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   this bubble of delusion inside this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   house I i love when the things i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   about that ending is that he's when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   a pretending to be directing her she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40   coming down the staircase and pretending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   that the press photographers are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   like movie cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45   he's doing he's doing things that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   are taking him back to when he was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   a powerful director you see him glancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   up the lights glancing at this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   making sure that this person is ready a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   lot more than he needs to sell this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   this crazy delusional women's I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   completely disconnected break he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01   just say you okay little puppy and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   to yap yap yap for your doggy treat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   it's there i think this part of him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   actually kind of like being back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10   control of a film set again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11   well there's that earlier scene when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   they're when they're at the studio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   he points out it with this used to be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   office it took up this entire space so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   yeah yeah that his performance is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   of like a revelation on the first time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:25   became aware of this story was god help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:29   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:29   The Carol Burnett Show her spoofs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:32   Norma Desmond and feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   yes it yeah Harvey Korman doing max and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   you know to go from that and then to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   finally see the movie it's based on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   see you know just how much more is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46   in their performances and in the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49   um it's a i love it i actually I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   one of the things that I have throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   this movie is this sympathy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   people who are making it because i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   that in many cases they lived this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   i mean these were people who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   you know Gloria Swanson was a silent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05   movie star who didn't work a lot after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   that Erich von Stroheim you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   tried to greed just legendary movie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   he didn't direct movie after the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   thirties so you know I think that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   some ways when I look at erich von [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   stroheim as Max and he he doesn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   know he's just a butler and he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   direct anymore it's like there's gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   be some residents in that too so but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   is a but you know regardless it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   really fun performance and i like i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   that character a lot and you feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   sadness and and the loyalty to her like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   I could I could not believe her i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   not be away from her he says that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   a it was the first test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   and I don't remember that was I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   that reveals is so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   yeah there's a scene as a as she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   descending the stairs and he's directing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   her when I was just take a quick close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   up of him and you just see him swallow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   and it says so much in that just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   one moment and from there i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   cut over to hedge hopper bawling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   that that just kind of had but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02   take a lot of guts now do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   about you talk about it about two if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:07   worry that people in the real world have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   this perception that your career is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   with your know where you're nobody til [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   your carrier is completely finished 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   years ago this no transfer come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   nobody cares about you and someone says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   we'd like you to play the part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   someone who used to be big 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   used to do the job you did 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   was as big as you artwork 20 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   but right now it's nothing nobody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   where he is and no one cares about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   that takes a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   confidence that it's fat it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   fascinating if you read the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37   trivia for this and I i'm sure it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:40   this is actually true I mdp IMDb trivia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   as opposed to made-up IMDb trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   jessica anderson it but they billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:50   wilder and Charles bracket went to a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   of um silent movie film actresses to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:56   and convince them Mary Pickford and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1556">TS</a>]

00:26:00   bunch of people maybe I'm a West and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   believe is Mary Pickford when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   pitched it to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   they could see her growing visibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   disgusting state they are telling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   story and they just sort of like stop no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   pal we are sorry for taking your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   we're going to go now please don't give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   us that wasn't justice toughest Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   actually we came we we contact you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   because we wanted your car like all your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   pardon her about want to be back again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   to be a big big star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   yeah we have at this place role of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28   pathetic crazy old woman hysterically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   think she still has a career and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   first person we thought it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   missed it again that got some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   it's got to be like Oh a role again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   yeah we worry i mean for Norma Desmond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   that reacts to the same thing right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:42   like is some proper was perfectly happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   to keep working in these the sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   sloppy movies to be a look at Acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   murderous to be paralyzing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   characters i was going to say that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   scene where she does her bathing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   beauties number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:56   you can draw a direct line from that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   whatever happened to Baby Jane mm-hmm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   those are very similar performances but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   I don't know that I would consider this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   a pathetic like the character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   pathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:10   yeah but the performance you get to act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   as much as you possibly can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   uh-huh right you're guaranteed to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   anything water yeah Gloria Swanson is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20   terrific in this video she has and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   think a lot of that is because she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   was a silent actress and I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   whole point of being a silent actress is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   to overact as much as humanly possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   right you can't get it done with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   your with your voice and boy does she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   yeah and I think she was able to throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   her throw herself into the role very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   well the fact is that unlike some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   actresses that they approached she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   transitioned to radio and television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   stage she was still working she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   wasn't working in the movies and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   know when they approached her you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:53   she wasn't necessarily looking to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   back to the movies but she's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:56   like this is an interesting role like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   can see myself doing this and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   not she was very good friends with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   Michael kurties the director of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04   Casablanca he he said if you don't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   this rule you're you're you're dumb you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   take the role not not every active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   reactor could have taken this real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   leader it really does require you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   that kind of professional that can bury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   your own ego and then in the interest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   making this character work because if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   if someone who is who is more self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   invested in their own image would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   well i'm going to say that she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   sort of wrong by these other people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   the reason why she turns out the way she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   does because everybody's been bullying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   her even though she's awesome and great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   and she just sort of broke because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   all this often pressured know she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   okay with saying that she was she's had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   continuous problems in the 1990s or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:45   2,000 we might say that she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   exhibiting behaviors that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48   diagnostically helpful by a trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   medical observer but she's willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   basically stripped herself of all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   dignity to become this person that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   she's living in this glass dome but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   soon as you put a crack in that dome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   she's gonna do everything she has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   repair that and prevent a real air from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   coming in I mean any talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   present day i mean the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10   this is a story also about fame and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   insulating of fame right because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   just she is insulated even though she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   lost it and you know she's got a pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   chimp she's cut max there sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:24   well I peach and all those pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   her and do some respect for the cheat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   she is insulated entirely from reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:31   here which famous people to this day our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   are that the whole time I was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   this I just couldn't stop thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   michael jackson and john over here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   got the end of his life I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   not just because of the chimp but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   know how did by the fact that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:44   she had nobody in his life who was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   to tell him no this is ridiculous what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   you're doing he just had so much power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   and he was insulated from the real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   and and yeah i mean he's certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55   the only one that was just you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   monkey made me think of that i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   mention a counterpoint to Norma Desmond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:01   there's a really nice scene very late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   without Betty where Joe is talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:07   Betty about her background and she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10   that she was going to be an actor but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   didn't work out she got her nose fixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14   and because they said well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   you've got a problem he knows she got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   her nose fixed and then she came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   and said yeah also you're not a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21   good actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   sorry about the nose thing she says she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   doesn't miss the spotlight and i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   love that because who do we know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   really really loves the spotlight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   and and she is happy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   behind-the-scenes she wants to work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35   the pictures she comes from a picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   family she's a script supervisor she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   wants to be a screenwriter she's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   know she's interested in Joe so she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   not entirely on the right track she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   got some things about her that I met you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   it's just it she is kind of a healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   counterpart counterpoint to Norma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   Desmond and I really like that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   where she's she says that she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   mean i'm gonna i'm going to counterpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   your counterpoint ok ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   wow yeah QED i think actually Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:06   Wilder kind of stacks the deck against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   poor Norma in this movie and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   that whole the montage where they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   are getting ready for the part doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   these horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   beauty things and fitness things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20   was actually a a very bitter argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   broke out between billy wilder and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:26   Charles bracket the screenwriter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   coast screenwriter e over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   bracket thought it was too cruel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   Billy well this says I you're stupid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   they your parents like that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   they apparently came to to blows almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   over it and Billy Wilder got his way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   cause he's the director and as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   the movie was over Billy Wilder inform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   Charles bracket they would never work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47   together again and that was that Bow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   then Charles bracket with slowly in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   that he went mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:53   shampa got shot by greta garbo I I tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:58   to agree with Charles bracket i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1918">TS</a>]

00:31:59   they they lay it on a little bit my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   grave a little a little bit thick on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   poor Norma although although at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   time it is kind of a you know it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   critique of the the idea that continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   into this day and age of a woman of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   certain age being unable to get roles in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   Hollywood because you know they've sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   of aged out of that demographic sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   it's it's a fine line to walk and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   think occasionally the movie trips over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   the line yeah I I think you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   that about a lot of thing I mean it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   very over inflated and very the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   movie is kind of a not quite a pastiche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   but right it is it is a grotesque it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   it's above and beyond sort of all think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38   it's funny how when he first drives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   and he sees the house my immediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   thought was that it was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   expectations which he then calls out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   like 30 seconds after i bought it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   mentioned that was like oh okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   we've hit the nail on the head there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52   it is that sort of you know it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   over-the-top movie as we in her acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   in the plot in in all that and it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00   because it's in service of of the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   yeah I don't think the beauty routine at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   the end is any any worse than anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   that we've seen going up to that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   to be honest with you in particular like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   the the bathing beauty thing and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   her little chaplain routine which is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   of the most terrifying things ever see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   here that discordant music by that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   just super super creepy i'm actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   scared of Charlie Chaplin now because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:25   Buster Keaton probably appreciated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28   watch him and I think all god you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   be CI told the chaplain was bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   obviously the the scene with with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   the beauty stuff that she does to me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   didn't it didn't seem like it was laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   on that thick because you guys it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   that far removed from some of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   i have done myself justice i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   the signal just about just now that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   they had really made this movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   right now that seems there's been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   many knives or be so many needles it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   would be like hammers and chisels that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57   was like mellow was anyone else impress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   the Betty got her nose fixed for 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   bucks when you think of me that was even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   if I think in 1950 yeah my first thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   was why would a bargain but how much our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   costs so mean i would have thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   plastic surgery to get say like a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   knows imperfection fixed you know was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   something that came several decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   later and and she mentions it in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   matter-of-fact way that it must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   been at least in Hollywood relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   normal even then I don't mention just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   one more thing which is how great the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   atmosphere is put in that dilapidated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   house with the a.m pool and the tennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   world is yours well done and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   particular the the little bit the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   small detail of the wind that causes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   pipe organ Tom so yeah it is i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   best thing in the movie for me as usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   anyone who plays a pipe organ is crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   that's just so perfect because it always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47   the wind always seems to blow at exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   the moment when a creepy organ note is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   called for and I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   fascinating to even think about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   going in I knew some of this stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   the movie I knew that he was dead-- [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   going in because i actually got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   like a trivia question a few years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   well it's it's a very well parody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   absolutely absolutely and and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   but for me like sort of getting a handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   on a the movie was much funnier at parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   not expected though Billy Wilder of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   course and b it is kind of a horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   movie right like oh she's playing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   Phantom of the Opera points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   well yeah and it made me think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   psycho to you know just in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   there are some similarities just in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   of the shots and some of the some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   treatment and the story structure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27   it's an interesting it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   movie because that's more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   than I initially thought it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   it's so malleable you're right in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   you can you really could make it into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:37   maybe you could be interpreted as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   horror film kind of a black comedy yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   black black comedy is what i think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   he said you could almost view it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   tragedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   no not almost that is exactly how i view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   and that's that's actually why I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48   fan of this movie because I'm don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   generally like tragedies all that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   add I thought well I thought I had seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   this before and I didn't mean that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   hadn't liked it and i watched it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   realized actually I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   anything about this but I still don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   like it because for me I just can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   Norma Desmond as this character that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   was just watching it descend farther and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   farther into the depths of a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   uncomfortable mental health issue and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   I i know that there's dark humor to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   and I absolutely understand people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   seeing it from those other perspectives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   but for me it was just nothing but sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   sad sad all the way through and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   just running out by the end and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   glad it was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   yeah it's more tragedy to me than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   anything else as well is it and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   particular because everyone around her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   as such sympathy for but had they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   no means of of changing anything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:38   they certainly can't fix her and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39   attempts to do so just drive for further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   down the path but I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   certainly William Holden character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   certainly has sympathy for as he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   rushing back you know even though he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   disgusted with the way that he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   around her you know it comes rushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51   back after he hears that she's committed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   or attempted suicide and the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   husband also is doing hanging around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   traffic we can obviously Cecily to mill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   you know is is is saddened and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:04   sure what to do and and kind of box on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07   actually telling her that she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:08   supposed to be in the picture and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   just the whole thing is very very sad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   me and that to me was that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   overarching emotion that I took away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:17   from it more than any of the comedy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   horror elements I don't think has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   form of a tragedy like like a lucha de [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   la more which is kind of similar in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   which it ends with the the major female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:28   character having this total disassociate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:31   of break only the Opera ends with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   dying actually and but the thing is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   that's a proper that that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   i consider to be a more traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   tragedy and that we really don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:43   you we were following this woman luchia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   and we're trying to work every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47   something bad happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48   we're really not seeing it there anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   else's eyes were really hoping all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   is terrible hope she makes her way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   of this but we're pretty sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   because of the format of this opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   that's not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   the only thing that makes me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   primarily think of this movie is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   tragedy is that I think that she is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   figure Norma Desmond is the figure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   does things other people you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:09   she's manipulating other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10   constantly so that we don't feel badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   for her but we're more concerned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   what she's done to this poor director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   who's throwing away his career when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   might go into the ok but its individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   its internal visual perception and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   your money says very very good too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   that will talk about this when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   about stall 17 but it's interesting when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   used look at events that were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   common and throw away and maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   clichéd scenes that now but when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:38   look at when we have a scene in which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   see the men peeping at women showering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:43   through a telescope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44   that's the law go huh wacky barracks hi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:47   Jace is like know that that's a crime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48   that's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49   you shouldn't be doing that horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   you're you're all horrible people for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   doing that when i was an english class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   in tenth grade I remember you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   we were learning about what tragedies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58   are you know the real basics are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   tragic events an unhappy ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   you know that the main character falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   at the end and I think we do have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   those pieces but the one thing that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   teacher said that I always remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   is that that for him the true hallmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:12   of the tragedy is that you can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   see it coming all the way through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   the fillmore the story and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   this I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18   we start with the main main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   the POV character dead at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:22   beginning of it all that's the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:23   tragic thing about it really i know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   then the other main character ends up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   jail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:28   I just yeah I think there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   truer definition for from from my broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33   heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   at this point I feel for max to watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   his replacement move into the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   yeah I thought about that like he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   watch finally got rid of that monkey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43   I'm another haha so what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:47   suggesting is that sunset boulevard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   about a director who murders of monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   to get ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52   crap well no my prequel is about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   all ok that's the wide sargasso sea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   sucks it that's a sunrise Boulevard nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   but i was reminded a lot strangely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   enough of of let the right one in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   you know features the companion to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   oh yeah Empire the old companion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   yeah and and the the new fellow comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   the old one has to stand by and help her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   out and watches the new guy sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   takes over his position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   it's a very sad many sad things in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   movie will you hold it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   we haven't given a whole lot of props [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   we've talked about a Joe Gillis is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   character building there buddy but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   about William Holden great float about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:32   wonderful floater when you haven't got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   William Holden I like William Holden not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   afraid to be unsympathetic know yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   mostly I mean there's flashes here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   their sympathy I think there's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42   brought a lot of nuances to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   character um I wound up seeing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   again after several years after Stalag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   17 so it was really interesting to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   him inhabit a totally different type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:56   cynicism um you know yes he's still sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   of looking out for himself but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00   case you know he cares enough about Nora [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:03   at least you know 20 fears that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   tries to kill herself he goes back he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   doesn't have to but he does he tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   do the right thing at the end getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   Betty you know trying to remove himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   from the lives of these two women that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   he feels that he needs to confess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20   said he needs to get Betty back on track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   to where she should be in his opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   and and try to shake Nora out of Norma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:29   Desmond out of her delusions even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   he's getting himself out but I liked how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   holding himself intended to carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   himself he created so many tix for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   character there was constantly anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   he had a bit of paper in his hand he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:42   would start folding and rolling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   playing with it as he's talking on while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   he's writing always having the pencil in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:50   his mouth and his ear things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   he just really brought the character to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   life for me I like he has a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   physicality to him too i mean it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:57   that scene where he goes in to see Betty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00   in her office and he sort of strikes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   pose like leaning against the door frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05   but like it's staged right and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   he's trying to present a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   atmosphere this the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   devil-may-care and he's playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   character even then with her it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   different from the you know how he acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   when he's around Norma and I i really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   like holding a lot and I think he's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   in this movie so the end interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   just bit of backstory is he was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   down and out at this point in his career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   he he had a big splash in 1939 with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:30   golden boy and then he spent most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   forties making garbage and not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   very good and garbage either and so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   this this was kind of his his lifeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   in a way in a way he was sort of a male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44   Norma Desmond um getting back into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   the big swing of things and yeah it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   it's a very uh nuanced performance I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:54   think now he's a little wooden to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:57   must be why you float so LOL relations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:01   hired him he's handsome enough fella and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:04   and there's something sort of innately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   likable about him i think and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   that's just because he is a handsome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   fella and he carries himself well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   also there are points in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   where I feel like he's expected to emote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   a bit more than he gives hmm there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:20   a lot of there's not a lot of emotion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   that comes out of him anything in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   or star like 7-8 well I would disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   with install like 17 on there Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:29   alright let's move on to start like 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   which we're gonna brighten things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   with a story about a not be present a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   prison camp so Steve was saying just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38   moments ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39   it's interesting that he should bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   William Holden so performance because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   it's three years three years after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   sunset boulevard was made and here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:50   Alex 17 which I feel is a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   different kind of William Holden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   performance a little bit more assured we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   will have this discussion later but yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   it's set in a prison camp where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   prisoners are apparently sergeants yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05   and therefore and as the again voiceover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:08   narration from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   he was a sergeant explains yeah you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   all the sergeant's in the camp and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   one in everyone's uh getting in each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:18   other spaces so you open saying how come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   no one ever makes movies about prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   camps you know we're pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   watching us and we're doing is out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   should open with Dunbar floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   facedown in the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   I can't believe those crazy Nazi shot me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:34   so yes so we are introduced to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:39   members of the prison camp William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   Holden is sergeant Septon he is the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:45   guess you would call them the prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   camp cad the the scrounger he has how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:50   get things he knows how to get things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   and he Parsons them out for her for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   money in the form of cigarettes another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   other Red Cross goods for anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   seen shawshank redemption this is red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   yes very good thank you very helpful uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   we meet some other people who are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   that in the barracks there's Robert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:14   strauss who plays animal was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:18   yeah we'll look at reading about animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:21   great hat role you don't want to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24   here that's five officers look at his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   Lord harvey went back who plays sir I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:29   guess you're right Garrett has aged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:30   really thick guy eddie's at ease at ease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:37   i shave every 20 minutes and digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   ferret you always get as sergeant second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   is to read and shawshank redemption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   so is a animal to everything Brad gear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   ever done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   there's Harvey one back sergeant Shapiro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   he's he's the sidekick 22 animal he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   just as contemptible there's Duke uh who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:59   I I realized in this I hate more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   happy that he's that he's basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04   jerk of the barriers the greaser once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   can you have that all you got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   there's gonna be a jerk their surgeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   prices played by Peter Graves who was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   clean-cut nothing could be wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   look at that fine Teutonic posture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   then there's the the forgettable bag of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21   bones who plays the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   the head of the the chief of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   barracks who I I can't be bothered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   anyhow the movie opens his Manfredi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   Johnson are trying to escape from Stalag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   17 it does not go very well because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   we quickly learned from all the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   escapes and plots going on in the prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   camp the Nazis have a mole in Stalag 17 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:44   in the in that particular barracks so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:47   naturally the suspicion turns 27 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   he is not a team player yeah he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   clearly he clearly has ends with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   guards because he's always doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   trainings and getting to sneak over into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   the the the Russian camp where they hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   the Russian women prisoners and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   plot point that I've never really cared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   for but we establish all this and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:12   lieutenant is dropped into the prison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:16   campus part of a prison transfer is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   his way to another camp and we find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   that he has a basically sabotage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   train because he and his a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:26   searching buddy who is apparently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:27   rich little of the of the US Army in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:31   1940s yeah we can add him to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   animated around animal with this animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   and just one hell of an audition now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   that this there's a lot of characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42   that I don't particularly care for in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   this movie for a movie I generally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   um yeah so they apparently talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   the the sabotage and again the Nazis are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   wise to it and little attendant is taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   away and oh it was probably Septon who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57   who ratted them out except it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   because as as he says just as the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:02   guys beat the living crap out of william [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:06   holden 2nd has the great line that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   there are two guys that know I didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11   me and the guy who did and so he spends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:15   the last third of the movie trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   figure out who the mole is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   meanwhile the barracks help the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23   lieutenant escape worries he end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   hiding in a water tank while they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   and figure a way to get them out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   Camp this is when a septum finally puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:33   two and two together and realize it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   that night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   nice sergeant price has been tipping off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   the Nazis because he's really secretly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:40   German I and he's a champ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   yes he could not look more German it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:48   either him or that kid with the blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   pompadour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   no I'm from Cleveland this is the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:55   Snyder version of watchmen Ozymandias of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:58   style like seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59   there's no doubt it anytime yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   dude is is the spy why you want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05   area in golden boy here now I'm not hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   to believe I was a little thrown when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   asked if you had seen a grown man naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   but beyond yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   also he's the head of security for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   barracks section but yeah sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   while the rest of that barracks really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18   suck selecting people they they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   they really vetted people out well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   before they hide the lieutenant there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:26   a previous scene where they get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   that the way it works is that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   the guy who's in charge of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   prisoners gets them out into the yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:33   and then they do it little transfer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   involving a chest piece and and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   happens is Septon basically hires in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:41   Bering yes and seniors behind ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   sees peter graves talking to him about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:48   the situation room in this sergeant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51   schultz yeah i got all ripped off by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54   Hogan's Heroes yeah and they're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57   German and then setting goes on and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   he has to figure out window when to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:01   his hand in his hand is forced by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   fact that they that they reveal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   location of lieutenant Dunbar to peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   graves and peter graves volunteers to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   the one to break them out of years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   I'm gonna get about a prison and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   septum has to move right then or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   whole thing is up I'm gonna get him out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   of prison and right into a nice firing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:19   squad yeah and uh second makes a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:23   compelling case given the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   everyone in the barracks apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   hates him that uh this nice clean-cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29   young Aryan boy is in fact a Nazi double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:33   agent and does have physical proof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   there's the the if he didn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   chest piece in his jacket yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:40   I don't think I don't think I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   played for me well there's the Pearl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   Harbor thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:43   yes yeah yeah also he slaps him which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:47   seems to be what really causes everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48   take all right yeah an American wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   take a slap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   well then Peter Graves makes a bold for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   it to which kind of cement yeah yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   Peter Peter Graves so it really does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   play his hand very well done well under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   no it ain't just like a Nazi so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:05   good burn your Nazi's take that guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:09   were defeated 6070 years ago so it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:14   up being second who's going to sneak the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   lieutenant out of the camp and he uses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   section price as the decoy where they at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:22   the appointed hour thrown out of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   the barracks the naughty prison guard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   shoot poorer poor stupid peter graves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30   and William Holden escapes with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:34   lieutenant and able to dominate her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37   after here for big boy job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   yes just lie down to no one can hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   over the gunfire all Death with Dignity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   for Peter gray is really although I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:48   wonder how was his house his his attempt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   to get dunbar and turn him over going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   work because all the same things still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   apply when he leaves the building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   get them out of the tank they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:59   all going to open fire on and I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   was going to sneak over to the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   sergeant schultz and say hey is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06   water tank and then they would have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07   gone to the water tank yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   nope just for the rest of the quicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   choose another day for sergeant schultz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   because i keep just I can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:16   seriously sick room and seeing ceremony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:20   and public you Sigmund sacrum and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23   start a previous old movie club entry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:26   mad at the Opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   oh that's right so this movie took me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   little by surprise because i looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32   the category was in i didn't i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   know anything about the plot or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   but I saw the category as a war drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   and so I had my expectations set always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:42   turns out this is where mash and Hogan's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   Heroes and meatballs stole all the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   seriously this is absolutely a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   call and else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51   right you know yeah it's a straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:52   comedy yeah I was not expecting comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   and i'm watching it develop and at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57   it's like okay yeah they're setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58   things up and then the two strauss & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   limbeck start and I'm just like no time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   I i wrote down my note is this movie has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   tone problems and i liked it i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   liked it a lot but it is a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   movie in spite of a lot but one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   things about it is it you know you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   say it's just a comedy because honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   the last 25 minutes is really tense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   dramatic and interesting that's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   funny in a lot of ways the first act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   features of features two murders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   I don't think it is a not unlike Sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   Boulevard say I think there are elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   of dark comedy I mean it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   definitely darkened are definitely tense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   moments but it's still overall I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   it's not like it's not it's not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   the great escape right like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   it's not just a like straight-up action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   right yours in victory with sylvester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   stallone okay Leigh I wind up here or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   Bridge on the River Kwai with William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   Holden to talk about the term problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:51   though I mean mobile my problem with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   is like it and and you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   right mash I i had a lot of mesh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   feelings in this especially when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   showed off the still ready to play yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   okay so William Holden looks a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   too much like Frank Burns for company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   that's true that's true as a weasel but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   the beginning of the movie is the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   that I had the biggest problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   because its broad and a nes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:13   problem i have with it is they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   prisoners of war in Nazi Germany and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:19   honestly it took me a while to get over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   the fact that they are joshing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:26   sig ruman and it's all just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   wacky and zany and yeah things are tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   but we're all just getting on and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   things work and I don't know it it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:37   like it needed to feel a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   grimmer than that for me to really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   of buy into the movie and I got there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   eventually because the tone actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:45   does turn about half an hour in but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   last half hour slider Vicki and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   there's that scene where the the rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   little of the third uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   God put some that they'll wear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   Hitler mustaches and are doing writable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   the Hitler thing that's a weird at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   must have played great in 1953 but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   not so kind of kind of disturbing yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   take off your moustaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   I don't know why I laughed my ass off at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   the head one here I think it's funny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   think it's funny but a lot of this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:14   is contextual right i mean it is a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   that's much much closer to world war two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   and we don't have the you know 70 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   of hindsight when they're when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   making this but I think it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   funny I my favorite scene for humorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   to see where they convince the german [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   car to play volleyball to distract him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   from the radio antenna LOL i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   delighted that German that is beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:35   oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   here's a wire leading from the from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37   volleyballs in that into the barracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   I've got all but yes I that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   nothing to me a lot of things probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   distracted by yeah these are not you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   imagine it places the stereotype that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   you could if you're really good at being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   brave and shooting at people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51   wouldn't keep you a member of war camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   party people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   this is everything I could not be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   delighted with that German guard he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   always been saying included in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   volleyball team even though he has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:01   idea how to clap ya hands over his gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   over this is pretty serious team that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:09   hilarious and then when he gets caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   then he sort of a whoever whoever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   that he handed his gun to just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   sheepishly hands it over to the the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17   with it guard that caught my eye i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   agree that that it has a bit of a tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   problem that you know i would think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   like this movie but i think i would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24   it if they would have taken out every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   single animal seen ya been able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   that you know when you talk about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   the the guard with the volleyball which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:31   is ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   um and those types of things I mean yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:36   it's comical but the Germans for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   most part are the butt of the jokes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   especially at that time I can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   the the idea of humor and especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   the humor that's directly pointed at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   Germans as look at them you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   lost the war and this is why because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   they're dumb enough to hand their gun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   wanted to some guy playing volleyball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   and forget about what he's supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   be doing just remember that just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   they're dumb doesn't mean they're stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   that's right before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:01   wanna go good point i really wish that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   was trying to find a copy of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   actual stage play was wondering if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   stage play was all of the serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09   dramatic stuff inside the barracks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   all the funny stuff that's outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   barracks estar stuff they added open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   the world little bit and make it more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16   a movie the exact opposite robert stroud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:19   strauss-kahn Lembeck we're both in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   play i believe that shows that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   their timing down perfectly so they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27   do their comedy bits and animal can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   make a face and that's all they need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   do and I would like to propose that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   is the opposite of a regular movie where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   you have a drama and then these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38   idiots as comic relief i think this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:41   comedy with moments of dramatic really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   and it was a relief it's actually one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:47   the things that I want to mention was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48   that this definitely feels stage ii and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   in fact i think that the contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:52   between the drama and comedy is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   the things that made it feel really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   stage you to me because I can corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   sort of imagine how after you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   scene of of kind of with dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   tension you also want to have some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   comedy bits happening in the foreground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   on the side of the stage and it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   like that like what like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   ok and this scene is over and now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   going to go back to over here we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   some more weight wacky prison antics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14   it keeps going back and forth the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   thing is that there is a sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17   premise happening here even within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   movie right like they're putting up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:20   front about hey we're just here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   relaxing is where prisoners of war what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   can we do will be no here for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   inspections when they come through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   then when the Germans are out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   room you know a lot of times they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:29   doing our Kayla's can be in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30   committee let's talk about escapes let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   talk about all this writing in the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:33   easy there is a premise yes Eric there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   a fiction they're presenting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   guards and like this whole relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   even with Schultz to is you know him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43   like a that dropping the dead right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   that they have kind of this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   relationship it's almost not quite it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   like a fiction of Stockholm Syndrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   almost and so I i'm ok with the tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54   exercise i saw this movie the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   I don't know 10 15 years ago and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   really i remember being startled by then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   as I think many of you were now not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   going into it and not really knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03   what it was about especially cuz i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:06   he's shortly around this time i also saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   Bridge on the River Kwai is it is Erica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:11   saying another William old movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   you that's about a prison camp on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   other side of the world but you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   I do appreciate you that he makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   comment at some point about like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:19   get out you just end up flying and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   end up in Japanese prison camp like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   only I love hard all William Holden that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:26   I don't know what's comin one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   favorite books is actually the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   escape the non-fiction book from which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:32   the heavily fictionalized movie was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   at least the book says it's nonfiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   there was no the one where the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   prisoners are British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   yes and from that book and from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   POWs escaped books I've read they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   playing pranks on the Germans an awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   lot maybe not to this degree but and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:52   mean the guy who wrote this and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   wrote the play who is actually in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:55   movie i believe it i believe it he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59   was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   instead like 17 I'm ever in a German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   prison camp i can remember that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   name i believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:04   Adam driver looks great in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06   yeah he was my favorite of all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:10   well because he underplays it unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   animal and exactly and shapiro hot the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15   people in cold it's actually had time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   build an entire glider in the Attic of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:20   prison didn't launch but and also keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   in mind that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:23   keep in mind that they're the version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   the war experience by a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   people is different from the version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   the war that we've seen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   presented after the fact is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   them didn't know just quite how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   quite the level of atrocity going on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:38   an excellent catalog of that obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40   band of brothers that seems Bilderberg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   series you know there's a lot of war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43   being fought with these guys are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:44   prison camps they don't really know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:45   what's going on other than their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   prisoner so I i think you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:48   trying to make the best of a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   situation to a certain extent which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52   think is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:52   up to a point i like the the I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:55   it i like some of the probably like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   the pranks that working plane of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58   guards I just I didn't like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   stage ii humor bits that were clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   just for the audience how did you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   about the wild amount of sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   harassment when the new Russian honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   I didn't make I'm not gonna say I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   it but I didn't really have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   with it because it really seemed fitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   for this the time it was really works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:17   and russian women didn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   particularly put off by it either so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   well there's my purse those women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:21   awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:22   now you're talking about anytime I do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   do enjoy the scene where they paint the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   line down the record if you just let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28   throw to throws the video light through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:31   that's that's the one seen it there's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:32   know I didn't have an issue with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   the tone frankly either but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   definitely agree with you Jason as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   as it's sort of feeling like having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   sort of stage feeling to it particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   like midway through the second act I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   certain it in a stage play something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   horrible with certainly happen and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   would like cast a pall on all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   community that came before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:52   everything else would be sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   resolution or or moving on and now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   and i would probably win intermission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:57   happen there's literally a moment here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   without oh that's where the intermission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:00   was not sure I can see you thinking it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03   coming something terrible is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:04   happen someone is going to be horribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   murdered or you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07   completely gonna cast a pall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:08   everything and never came which I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   glad of but the whole way through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   movie I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   like oh it's coming it's coming this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:14   war drama i saw it on IMDb yeah actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:17   I have been saying I unlike unlike the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   previous movie we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   I didn't think that I had seen style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   like 17 and i didn't think i would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   it because i don't like war movies when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   we started watching it and like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   seconds and I was like I seen this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   not only had I had actually seen it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   not remembered i really i quite liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   this movie so I but I've come to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   conclusion that i don't like war movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   but i do like prisoner of war movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   especially starring lee holder only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:44   welder must really be thrilled with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   comments tonight erica i said well i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49   not remember anything about your movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   but ok girl okay i don't know i like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   mean mentioning match i love mash it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   one of my all-time favorites i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   it mixes comedy and drama and it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:02   sort of zany high jinks and then rapid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   shifts into other tones and I got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   of that vibe from from stalling 17 and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   liked that I got that it's it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   like I said you know there's stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   I think was maybe a little bit too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   for me but i did i did like that aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:16   of it that they are you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   making the best of a terrible situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20   and that there's some sort of darkness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   of like well you gotta laugh but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   also terrible things that happened i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   really like the guy that goes Enys don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:30   have voices like that in movies anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   guys know career anymore he's just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   his dilapidated mansion waiting for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   to call him back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   so why is animal so horrible you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:41   somebody explain to me because I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:42   he was great i thought he was great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   thought he absolutely nailed a try like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   animal i think if you didn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   it was a who was the stage actor and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:51   was the movie actor you could pinpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   accurate that guy's acting on stage is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:56   little broad is what you're saying but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   really I i love some of the physicality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   of both him and shapiro like the c-more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   holder this cooking the egg and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   sort of do the slow rock over there so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:07   mean there's some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:08   there are some great aspects to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:09   performance i can understand people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   makes you brought by personally I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   really enjoyed the two of them as a is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:15   comedy bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16   that's because the two of them were sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:17   of separate from everything else going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   on and yeah that's that I guess it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   I guess that's my main problem with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:24   they're very broad and I forget who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:28   mentioned the the subtle things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:29   William Holden does the state business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32   he doesn't Sunset Boulevard but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34   really does it here where it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   not of he doesn't do a big broad acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:40   performance and he's he's playing scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   with those guys in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   speaking of the total problems you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:45   gotten like on the waterfront with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   marlon brando and that said I rip I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:51   really hate duke i think most of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   ok.thank he's a jerk I like i was able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   to keep start starting matches on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   face mask about the animated movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01   when he was at the end when he realizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03   that we were all wet on you and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   forget it and lights a match on myspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   oh yeah I don't really see where Dukas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:10   humiliated is great and has a signboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:13   this is not a very the the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:16   movie version of DOA is not a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:19   movie but he he plays the heavy in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   and our spot alert he dies it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:25   glorious girl yeah take that Duke but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:29   that Duke in this picture don't care i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:32   love that William Holden never stops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   being a jerk oh yes that's right way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:38   even just see the skin knows that neck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   with all you got ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:41   the one time you see him break is when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   he first realized that okay if I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46   to live in the next 48 hours I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   have to find out who the u.s. weasel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   and just duck here take my cigarette so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   how about a hundred cigarettes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   know that he was you can see in his eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55   if he had not been interrupted that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   that Schultz was going to absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   tell them with what was going down he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:02   just the one place he loses his cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   you see the desperation before he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   back again and probably just through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09   happenstance rather than him find his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   own space center again but still at its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:14   I if we had not seen that desperation I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   think it would have been a lot harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   root for him as we could continue go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21   anybody do like his attitude of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:22   caring but you're right he does he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24   crack at that moment and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:25   thing where he realizes i guess i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   to solve this myself right that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:28   my old trading is not going to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   here so many subtle things that have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   happen like that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   and at the very very beginning where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35   work port is pointing at pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   that he's not just a weasel who will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:40   just take advantage of everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   every situation he has one maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   just two lines he says well the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:45   night I was here I've got my left shoe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   was stolen my students respond all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   stuff was no that's when I learned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:50   you've got to take care of yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   because no one's gonna take care of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53   in this place yeah and that you still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   don't think that he's a wonderful human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:56   being but you don't think he's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   flat-out ass one more thing that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   it sort of did that made getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   this movie sort of disjointed for me arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   was Gil Stratton is character is cookie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   doing voiceover yeah yeah oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:12   because he has such a at first I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:14   it was holding because I'd seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16   movie first I had didn't remember what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   holds voice sounded like immediately and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   I'm going like he sounds way too folksy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   and come and and gee whiz to to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:26   character that i read about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:27   synopsis and it took me the longest time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:30   to sort out I I needed that scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:33   they had everybody in the line and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:34   start naming this one this one this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   I'm like thank you now i can sort them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   all out but that was another point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:43   the voice-over irritated me more than it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   did in Sunset Boulevard because it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   just ended and but so much of it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   just the fact that we we never get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   from just what a and just want an Archie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:57   character who feels like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   why we need a voiceover in this one at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   all either it's really just like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03   folks we're making a movie and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   gonna watch it i hope you enjoy it i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:06   be back later to tell you you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:07   watching a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   traditional hey contribute anything just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:13   ask for cookie I felt like that was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   putty over the lack of actual narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   for most of it yeah like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   trying to protect it as there was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:20   one thing that happened then there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   another thing that happened was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   vignettes whack the zone student the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   scenes do not flow one into the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   now that is very clear the stage as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:30   feel like that was part of the staging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:31   this of the two is like and seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   lights down lights come back up and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:37   there was some of that I want to kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:38   can i mentioned um well first of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40   share box auto privileges are wanna you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:44   gotta favorite scene in the movie so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   is at the scene where he puts on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:47   boots just so we happen to get was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   talking on the phone to Berlin and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   takes them right back off he's the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   of man who puts on his boots so we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   salute properly on a phone call and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:58   not just that he has his servant put his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   boots on for him and then take them back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   off i like when they lay down some links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   for him yeah across the mud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:05   not only that but remember that he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:08   that he's got the The Saboteur in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   office only to make sure now here's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:11   name is vol make sure they tell you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:14   please talk to the SS you tell him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   it was me who got you to confess my name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:18   is gone i like it down for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   I got the Mukhabarat for you as my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:22   my tumblr invite also amazing jodhpurs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:26   that I think premature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   yeah oh yeah I don't he dressed himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   yes rolls around and he's got the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:32   story about his family and how we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   like well then we're not to go you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   the soldiers of the world will always in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   the back but its best very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   thing it's just it's great it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:41   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42   well it's an important part because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:43   otherwise that the Nazis in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:46   are all goofballs and Batman play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49   volleyball women and their guns two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   prisoners and he he actually lends an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   air of menace to the the movie where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   SS guys who come at the very end are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   like Oh finally somebody competent is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:58   here it's like the when they bring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   SS guys in those guys are not yokels but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03   you do get a sense of the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   Germans of other than sure box ar-ar-ar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08   guar not their best material sergeant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   schultz is way more competent than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:13   whole conception Schultz he's friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   but he gets the job just get the jump he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   and he has a degree of sinister this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   him because he has those dark look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21   city that he gives when he's on he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   pulling out the chest piece to give this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   internal stitches by the way Phil if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   you enjoyed seeing Neville brand get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:29   plugged in DOA you might also appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:32   the terrible 1976 horror movie eaten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:35   alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:35   don't go haha obviously what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   student and this movie here adding to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:42   netflix queue some other things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45   enjoyed about this movie um I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48   Washington Sox and the potato soup that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   made me laugh where everybody hated done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:54   eating anybody else need breakfast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   ok ok you know the socks just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   watching any rat race literally AAS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:01   horse race with rats where the rat spins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:04   around and around and around as all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   other rats blow past it may God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   Seabiscuit they got all the great course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   names on these rats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   it's best not to think too hard about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:11   how they got that rat to spin around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   like that don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   mmm i love the bit about how they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   the ping-pong only because sometimes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   ping-pong wolf that doesn't come into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   play nearly as much as i would hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22   would but they have their strong up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   decorations yeah the Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   decorations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:27   ok and used for making smoke yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:30   exactly but those are just like funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   bits and again that's sort of like camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:33   I jinx mash kind of jokes but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:37   enjoyed all of that and I liked how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:38   that interlaced with the the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   part plot of who the mole is that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:43   all that was all good i like this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:44   i thought this movie i I've complained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   about animal i complained about the tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   but the fact is i thought this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:49   really good movie i thought this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50   lot of fun it was not what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51   expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:52   and I thought it was a nice mixture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:55   all those things as we said that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   know it's a little bit of Hogan's Heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:58   and mash and meatballs and stripes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:01   you know all sorts of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:03   obviously now I realized we're totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   ripped off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   it's the hairs versus the square is yup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   the Nazis are the squares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   yeah let's be clear it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:12   Hogan's Heroes well yeah when I watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   again knowing what's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   i think i will enjoy it more now you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   look at that Peter Graves from the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:20   beginning and be like I don't trust that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   guy i forgot to the spy was yeah having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:26   seen this movie a long time ago I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:28   I was actively trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:29   get out again so it's cool yeah i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   convinced for a while it was quiet Joey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:32   I had never seen either of these movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   before and and I i looked at the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   on them and I went oh our 5000 two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:41   because there have been times on old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   movie club where that have sort of drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   maybe just then I'll speak to management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   about that absolutely both of these time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:51   just flew by i didn't find myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   checking to see how much was left on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:54   either of these movies they just blasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   through they were entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:57   throughout I love them both but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   were great good job film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:00   yeah thank you for both great I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03   this movie rises and falls on William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   Holden and i happen to really dig his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   performance in that no matter how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   for me here either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:10   well to be honest really very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   interesting well there goes my theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   thanks Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14   well I don't like about his performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   I'm not he did win the Oscar for Best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:18   Actor for this by the way I just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21   there for me he thinks he won at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   as a consolation for sunset boulevard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:26   yeah that some people say it i think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:29   does a very good job of getting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:32   line there there's a line of anger that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:35   is uncommon for a performance in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   movie like this that really motivates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:41   that characters actions and it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   comes across well i think with William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   Holden aye i also think he does a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:48   showing uh you see just in the way his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:54   hands actively he carries himself I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   think he tells a lot about the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   I just think it's a really confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   really uh a solid performance which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:03   funny because he didn't want to do it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   Billy Wilder made him go to the sea the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   stage play walked out at intermission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   because he thought that the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   character was terrible he said I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:13   waiting for that horrible thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:14   happen it just didn't happen when I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:18   anything that's those are good points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:19   villain and i have to agree that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   thing that I did see in his performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   that I really liked was the scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:24   he comes back from the Russian womens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:27   barracks and everybody's lined up ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   to beat on him and the body language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:32   that he has in that scene as he's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:34   of he realizes he's gonna get clobbered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   there's a major transition that goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   and in how he carries himself in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   seat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:41   is very good and perhaps it stands out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43   for me just because it can you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:45   Robert Strauss and her feet left PEC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47   doing doing something so that people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   the back road cleveland and ceiling are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:52   definitely playing wingman for William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53   this movie up so that that's why i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:57   though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:57   well William Holden drags this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   kicking and screaming to to where it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:03   in my estimation and the and the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   he didn't want to didn't want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   this character is he just thought he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:08   all like a very unlikable a very likable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:11   person so I mean I feel like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:12   there must have been a lot of temptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14   for him as an actor to try to play this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:16   character softer and sort of make him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   more likeable and you know a good on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:21   for not doing that he didn't he kept he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23   kept him very sort of you know harsh in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   just not not a good guy and he I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:28   part of that was wilder insisting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   yeah and it's all because i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   is the most William Holden that William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   Holden forbid i really like that he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:38   was the clean-cut guy in the tidy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   uniform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:41   there's that good guys or the slot yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:44   for the rain burns peril so the skis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:47   braised bribing the guards for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   fresh clothes and laundry service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   yeah yeah I think I hit the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   who I I like holding in this I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   septons really interesting character I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   there's a structural problem that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:58   probably comes from the from the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   plan from this from the script from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:03   stage play is Septon feels to me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:08   character part that not the lead and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:12   feel like the camp needs a lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:15   Antonia its animal and shapiro yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   lead well I yeah well yeah so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   there you my theory back to back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   something that isn't animal whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:23   terrible the I feel like that is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:27   what's the missing piece here is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:28   almost want Holden to be more clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:31   like not holding this up on his own that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   having that other kind of like main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   mover in the in the cast of the American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:39   sergeants and there isn't anybody so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   he's just sort of it so I when I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   judging realizing like oh I guess he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   the guy i guess there is nobody else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   like the character a lot better a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51   but it'd be my initial read on him was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53   like oh I get it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   one of the bit you know he's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:56   bits he's the grifter in the corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:59   it's like nope there's nobody else he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:00   it and i think that i think that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   serve him well but I think it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   good performance i like it a lot i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:05   i think structurally would have made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:07   more sense if he had somebody like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:09   like a straight edge to really play off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   of and clash with and there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   anybody if only Charles bracket was here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   to work on the script with me well there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17   you think price learn how to play the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:20   washboard during his time in cleveland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:21   or the benefit tonight and he's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:27   just part of his super-secret spy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   training of o got ya it's like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:32   doing the laundry but you just take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   the laundry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   well clearly you've never seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   washboard sequence and swing kids where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   they just break out the washboard sure a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:42   yeah they may have left the potato soup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:43   at the bottom of the barrel who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45   you know every single episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   incomparable these me hungry now I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   eggs and potatoes the data services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   yeah you get it quick before they start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   watching the sox in here and maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:56   soccer too high i just didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   put in a word for a i recently think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   year ago so saw another Billy Wilder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   movie set in Germany which is 123 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:05   I'm range I I actually enjoyed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:07   movie that was really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   it's just plod it is a lot but it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   but it's funny and a little it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:15   sort of over-the-top somewhat satirical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:18   it's a good it's worth watching them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   young horse poo colts that's all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   need yeah yeah he's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:24   what is Wilders like percentage hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:27   movie right before this ace in the hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   is amazing yeah you know I i wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:32   say the billy wilder's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:33   director but boy you mean movies that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:36   makes and I've clean joy watching them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38   is that these aren't even my two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   favorite Billy Wilder movie and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   be some like about that and the fortune [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   the fortune cookie is actually I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:47   really hurtin too and there's witness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:50   for the process yeah with this week we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   could just we could watch Billy Wilder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:54   movies in this thing and and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   fill up a year of program actually billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   wilder and Charles Brett bracket wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   the screenplay for one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:02   movies of all time which is a midnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   starring Claudette Colbert autonomy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   so I know ya always happy to see his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:09   name even if he's not directing I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:11   ready to go check all of his movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:12   see just how many of them have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   voiceovers because I've seen that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:17   always gonna I've seen some like it hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   i don't remember if there's voiceover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:20   and that no but no house / voiceover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:23   free that that's why it is best but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   does have really intrusive Cary Grant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:28   imitation trip I'll you know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:31   doin just what you wanted the other yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   you know the imitations guy was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34   really irritating oh yeah I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   totally see him being like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   everybody's favorite guy in the present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:41   moment where the lieutenant very clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   as exasperated by his wacky impressions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:46   it's like can we just get on with it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   long as the people in the movie know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:49   he's annoying and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51   deliberate that his impressions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52   thereabouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:53   I think would make some hateful is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:54   the camp just eats it up so this guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:57   great girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:58   no he's now do Grable Betty Grable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   you're missing the conversation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   background this take a look at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   point we're gonna have an escape we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:05   going to need to send some guy the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   direction to get shot at least I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:10   you think laughs laughs and keep asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11   for the first get Jimmy tagging Jimmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   Durante he'll be dead very soon he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   accepted first choice for decoy before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   priced heard that they don't have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   own televisions ok the bar is low i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4819">TS</a>]

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01:20:25   there's a scene right after they hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:26   the radio with the Nazis come in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4826">TS</a>]

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01:20:39   all the cartoons in which we understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4839">TS</a>]

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01:20:43   we're done with the with these two billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4843">TS</a>]

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01:20:49   not yeah there's something else I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:53   how we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4853">TS</a>]

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01:21:21   alright well i would like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   everybody Phil Michaels of course as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   always thank you for picking the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   yeah thank you and also thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   joining me Monty Ashley Jason check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4889">TS</a>]

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01:22:15   you thank you Jason and if you need any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:17   help with the coffin call me thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:21   everybody out there for listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:23   this episode of old movie club or booby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:26   khlo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:27   goodbye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:42   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMb1MB5E/4962">TS</a>]