Ep. 233: "Babies are Boring"
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hello hi John hi Merlin how's it going
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whoa whoa well that complicated
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uh-huh really is going complicated at
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hmm i am online shopping
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oh really what ya doing some online did
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some online shopping
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what do you give you see what I'm
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getting the system uh you know what
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we're good for right now my order a
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dingus for our plant that will tell us
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if it wants water or needs different
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light will tell you that video your
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phone does it have a nap
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mmm I don't think so i got the cheap
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model can you can you connect it to your
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nest so that it again i don't have a
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nest but if I did I probably could you
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know this is a wonderful time I a night
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out I gotta clock now I'm getting this
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is a pilot project i'm gonna try because
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as you know we we can have the kind of
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clock i would like where I would like it
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not going to get into that but i did
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find a very cool-looking clock it's an
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analog clock meeting it's got hands and
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it's got the radio signals so it sets
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oh it's a it's a is it is atomic is an
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atomic dog is an atomic it's an atomic
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technically an outdoor clock so you can
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put it in the bathtub is an atomic Punx
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atomic Punx yep atomic how that's a van
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Halen song Boing and it's got that
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temperature and humidity also analog on
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it's got a little hands likely our
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president and we're like a Tyrannosaurus
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Rex very much like the Tyrannosaurus Rex
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and and in so doing and I want to hear
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about your complication just give me
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some time to think about it I I know you
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love this phenomenon i discussed this
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with some friends on another show
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recently i love the thing when you go to
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amazon and you
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it has the section near the top of the
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page it's got a section called
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frequently bought together
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oh yes where you know it it lets you
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know you know if people bought this
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thing also also button so they sure did
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yeah in this case it suggests that
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people like to buy three clocks so 33
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different clock 333 different clocks
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yeah yeah this is this is a funny
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phenomenon to me and that sometimes when
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you want to get a clock that says your
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people but this clock also about these
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other two clocks
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yes they did and i think--not maybe it's
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time to tune the algorithm a little bit
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when that happens
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yeah I see that to a lot where where you
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are where the frequently bought things
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frequently brought together could not at
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no one ever would have bought those
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things together right i mean it seems
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like something you would catch like
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where you go like people who bought this
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washer dryer set also bought these other
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two washer/dryer secondly no I icic why
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you think that but that's not that's a
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thing honey honey I'm gonna buy three of
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these and we'll just send back the ones
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we don't like no so there-there
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algorithm must be saying people were
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shopping for these three things
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yeah I I've noticed a lot of emails now
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from companies that i have gone to look
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at something and then yeah right there
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very panicky about it looks like you
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left something in your cart
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yeah oh my goodness you know if you
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don't get that uh oh you won't have it
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you said you were interested in this
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hard drive but someone is everything
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okay is it me do we need to talk
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yeah yeah a lot of needy very needy very
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needy and and I am I feel you know how I
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so I'm in a minute situation now where
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every part of every part of my existence
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both in california and here in Seattle
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is starting to be governed by looking at
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real estate what everybody's looking at
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real estate
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yeah alright real estate real estate
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real estate ok and and I long lived in a
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culture where I would periodically go on
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zillow and kind of search around the the
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area see what's up see what's going on
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ya see some houses that are for sale
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what the what the what the going rate is
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have a good friend like my good friend
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Chadwick that's not really his name but
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sounds like a made-up name
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chadwick ya fella named an AI Chadwick
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said with
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haha ok quick Chadwick place cinnamon by
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the long winters down now
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down down down down down now no no what
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is inexplicable I make each a quick
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Chadwick Chadli let's go on chatter
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chatterley alright chatter ssin hmm no
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he here in Seattle he likes to go look
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at property and periodically hill by how
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so just fucking go up straight up and
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buy a house he owns a flight for houses
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people get money for these things
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well it's you know you've got BCI be
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savvy he buys these houses that are
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better that he can't because he looks at
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him all the time he's like this house is
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underpriced for the value but he also
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has a strong aesthetic right so he
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doesn't buy houses that he doesn't like
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he's never bought a house where he was
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he didn't have a personal smart let me
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tell you by if your personal buy stocks
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it by stocking products that you believe
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in using enjoy exactly but don't buy
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stock in things that you think are
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terrible things about Warren Buffett
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says that I think oh boy I bet he does
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hmm i bet Warren Buffett says the shit
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out of that Warren Buffett says you
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should buy things when they're not
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costly and then sell them when they're
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more costly stop the presses
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yeah he's got a whole book about it Shh
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little dog she's nasty
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this is what I've been doing wrong i
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haven't been savvy mhm you know so
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chatter 7chad workmen denson he said
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workman's and he went with the thing he
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likes to do is get in his truck and
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drive around and look at stuff that's
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like number one thing he likes to do and
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the things he likes to look at our
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properties and it's not just that he's
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scoping them to buy them
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he just like to look at other people's
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properties to you know he just look at
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all the time that's one of the things he
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likes to look at I admire frankly it's
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like a real estate stalker
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well just like yeah just wants to see
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other people's compounds you want to see
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what's going on ok IC xagliv enthusiast
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yeah there's no I he astonishes me
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because there's no Road in all of King
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County that I by I would doubt for a
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second that chad has been up you know
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we'll get you drive somewhere way out in
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the country with me like you know what's
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up that road egos are there's a little
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and you're like you've been up that road
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yeah yes but so II be periodically as
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he's driving around you'll see a house
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like I liked that house and he's not a
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rich guy but he's just savvy enough that
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he knows how to put together a
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downpayment me knows how to figure out
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this matt and he puts it and he's you
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know he's handy enough that he can kind
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of get the house in shape it's not like
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he is not you put a new roof on it but
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nearly goes in there and he fixes it up
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and coat of paint on it but because he
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likes it that work doesn't seem not so
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owners it's not like he's he's going
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around flipping like garbage houses who
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and he's just now is this blaze this guy
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my age has got this strange little
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portfolio of four cute little shingled
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bungalows around the city you go
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ok but what have I been doing with my
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life yeah I could see that you know i'm
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sitting around i got like 14 guitars
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what the hell do they do i mean i like
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them but yeah they don't generate and
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make you healthy gonna pull a thread on
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that sweater too hard
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mm you know heard a lot of what you do
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right was yeah anyway I was at an open
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house the other day and it was one of
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those open houses i don't know how many
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open houses you go to but there are some
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open houses where the realtor res really
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dressed the place up all there's a thing
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called staging la stage-by-stage okay
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you make chocolate chip cookie so it
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smells like cookies mmm what house
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wouldn't you if you made in the morning
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you make cookies and then right before
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you open the house up you make fried
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chicken
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oh that's such a good idea yeah and then
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everybody's like aha whatever it costs
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they might bring like a fried chicken
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candle just just because it would be
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funny you know we all suffer from this
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thing where like we like this solve the
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problem that we understand everybody is
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like your real estate agent wasn't very
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good but you like to cook it and you're
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open houses just turn the place
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upside-down it was like Thanksgiving
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dessert so tell me more about the guest
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bath hang on hang on man I don't end up
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sometime if you're there with your apron
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on yes wiping your beer sweated brow
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erotic I've been to back in the day I
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went to a lot of open houses because my
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mother was a real estate agent oh of
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wars and so I did this release the
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pre-staging days now
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my understanding is today if you're
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doing this and I want to get back to
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your story and your complication
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my understanding is you can have
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services that will come in they'll even
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bring in furniture but it needs to look
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like a place that somebody would want to
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live you can get some throw pillows
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right you can get some fried chicken and
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you could have a you know you might have
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a make it look like a child who's happy
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lives there
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yes this is all true a with the caveat
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that apparently and I've been we've been
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over this many times and I sit still
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astonishes me because I meet a lot of
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nice people you know you know what I
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mean yes like I got into a I got into a
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cab this morning because my truck blew
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mm that's kind of the complication oh
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well it's just one of many complications
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Merlin every every day you know
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am i right yeah you are right so i get
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into the cab and that and I start
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talking to the driver as you do and he's
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from Senegal and I said what time to
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start this morning at 4am I said for
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a.m. that's early and he said yeah but i
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have to get you know I live in everett
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which is a completely different town
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from here to a no and a fairly long
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drive and an unpleasant one and he said
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yeah I gotta get back to the house by
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noon because my wife starts working at
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her job at one and i have to care for
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our five month old
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the uber for the cab driving i'm not
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complicated and I said you know not to
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get all up in your business but that
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seems unsustainable and he said it
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really is i said 'what's you what you
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what's your long-term plan here you
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can't keep doing this can't live like
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this and he said I think i'm gonna go
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back to Center call you know how I was a
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civil engineer in Senegal and and I just
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you know I got knows my folks are here I
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got a support network and frankly babies
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are boring i don't want to surround the
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baby all day and I was like you are
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talking my language now babies are
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that's candid and we're driving along
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and baba d'you know HIPAA grip and and
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I'm like like this guy like there's no
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the number of people i meet in a typical
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day which is you know between five and
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fifty for the most part I like them all
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they're all you know so this guy that
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normally in a situation like that I it
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in a conversation like that where
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somebody tells me to this happens to me
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all the time i'm going back to Senegal
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and I'm like really you're going back to
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Senegal because I you know I i believe
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in America
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yes and I believe it i'm leaving us
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you raised your daughter that's right i
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believe in America as a place where
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someone from Senegal can come and with a
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little hard work and ingenuity and
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American stick to it we can plant a flag
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gear and then look what happens season
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ended a sentence suspended sentence you
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believe in America I do and so typically
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in a situation like that i am always I
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immediately go and this is you know this
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is why I'm spy I a lot of cab drivers
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will take me home for dinner with their
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family because we get into a
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conversation and they're like listen I
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don't want to drop you off clean we come
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back and talk to my wife and tell her
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about this America that you keep telling
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me about yes and so I would always I'd
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always be like well hey you know like
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let's strategize for a second here
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before this cab ride is over and see
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like what we can do to to do to make
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your life more sustainable and and and
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get you to double-down whatever I need
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to do to put you in this country today
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yeah how do i how do i get you into the
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driver's seat of America
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mm-hmm but talking to him and listening
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to him i was like he and I see where
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you're at
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I see where you're coming from and he
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said I'm at and I you know I made a
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little reference to the yeah the whole
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thing the current situation he was like
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you know my wife was born here she
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senegalese but she was born here I'm a
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US citizen like I'm none of this
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hullabaloo that's happening really
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affects me at all
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hmm it's just and also i'm from Senegal
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i'm not from
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you know some other random country that
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country like Syria have another bad
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country
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yeah but he said I just you know I i'm
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working all the time and he said that's
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what I mean you know like II and and
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we're having one of those conversations
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there's a lot of like yeah yeah he's
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like I'm a man and I'm like yeah he said
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I'm you know I should be a work i should
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be doing hard work and I was like oh
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yeah he said I'm an engineer civil
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engineer
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yes god damn yes and and so he's even
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though he's like I don't want to
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surround the baby if i go back to
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Senegal got my family I got everybody
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there and I was like listen you know I I
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just met you but seems to me going back
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to senegal is not the worst plan you
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ever had
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mhm and and he's like yeah you know I
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mean it's nice here I've been here 10
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years and I said what about France to
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direct the Senegalese and France have a
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like a reciprocal you guys are like
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friend countries or Senate call was I
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mean I guess when you talk about a
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post-colonial relationship I guess you
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don't say friend country public
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complicated it's a little complicated
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yeah it's not exactly like it's not like
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friend cities or whatever like swapping
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t-shirts in eighth grade it yeah right
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it's like oh I mean I happen to know
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that in Senegal like in Morocco like in
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some countries with a former colonial
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relationship with France that the
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language of business there is friend
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mean you know if you're going to do
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you're going down to a government office
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you're going to be speaking French I
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said wouldn't you
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what about pair what about Paris what
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about what about the front would you go
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to brunch and he did that what i have
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come to find is the typical african
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answer to that question which is no ID
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no i do not want to go to France was
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like mm tip of the hat to you it sounds
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like senegal maybe in your future again
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he seems very focused
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it sounds like he knows what he wants in
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life well this is the thing you know
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this is the American dream this is why
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I'm always when I meet somebody like
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that I'm like double down on America
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come on like you're the you are the
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exact the the whole fact that you're
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here and not in Senegal
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is what makes you like that type of
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American that they know that makes
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America great once once and future
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yeah but but yeah in this way to lose
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weight to lose a fella you know we're at
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some point we have the rapper and will
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close the deal with the Senegalese man
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and you hate the idea that for whatever
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reason it's not working out you'd like
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to think we can save this relationships
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like that's exactly right Mike listen
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you're living in everett you're driving
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a cab from five over four o'clock in the
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morning every day you got a
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five-month-old baby I know that babies
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are boring don't want to be there
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what I had a baby I had a I had my mom
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there and he was like ahhhhh see I was
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like I know right
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you get your mom there and you're like
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hey this baby's born I'm gonna go wash
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the car was this ride
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well you know I mean we got a lot done
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in a in a cab ride because I'm not
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somebody that I don't sit in the back of
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the cabin look at my phone
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you know you know you get a chance to
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talk to somebody
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this is that this is the reason that
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people don't believe that i'm an
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introvert is that if i get in the back
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of a cab is the reason
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yeah if I can i get into the back of the
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cab and I've got someone you know who's
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basically trapped there with me and they
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have a story they can tell me about
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themselves
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it's the perfect it's the perfect
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climate right because this cab ride is
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going to last 15 to 20 minutes and so
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there's nothing we're never going to get
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into a situation where I they're never
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unless they're crazy person they're not
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going to start talking to me about what
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they're feeling about a flat taxes
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well you know there's an intuit yeah you
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know it's guys got a finite it's got a
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beginning is kinda and that's a nice
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feeling and I know how to interview a
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guy right mean I know how to say where
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you from and then not drop the ball
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because I know where places are so he
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said senator and I go oh you ever go to
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Burkina Faso and he's like I went to
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college there and then you know we're
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off to the races and I learned something
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I learned learn about a guy learn about
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his problem i learn about is his
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five-month-old his wife so there's the
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his wife was home with the baby and he
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was working two jobs before and he was
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like that was fine i like working two
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jobs but then after the baby's a few
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months old my wife comes to me and says
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I can't stand this
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I'm drug going crazy i want to go back
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to work this baby is driving me crazy
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and this baby is not a bad baby they're
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just normal maybe speaker boring babies
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are crazy making if you have to just sit
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there and stare at it all day
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you can't even go wash the car got a lot
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to say about this and so you know
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there's a lot of pressure on women to
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not even show a crack right you're
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supposed to take care of all this stuff
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i don't want to make this political by
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actually care about women and let's get
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is pretty crazy that like they're
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expected to take care of all of that to
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not be bored and to not be frustrated
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that they can't just have a glass of
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wine like a person anymore
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yeah and that whole business of that
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whole business gets put on them up like
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well you're a woman this is what you're
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made to do you you love love this love
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this little baby so his wife obviously
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is a like to get going kind of gal and
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she's like I can't stand stay home all
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day staring at this baby i'm going to go
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back to work at my job and he's like oh
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ok yeah I guess I'm the baby was on the
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other foot now i guess i'm working from
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for a.m. to noon and then I'm sitting
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here staring at this baby to that's Mike
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that's the game like me up so yeah by
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the time I got out of the car i think we
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had agreed that it was at least a good
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tentative plan to go back to Senegal for
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a year or two and my sense is that if he
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goes back to Senegal for a year to he's
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going to want to stay his wife for
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unclear unclear whether she can keep I
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think you'll go back there and he'll
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feel like he's he's hit he can find a
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valid existence for himself
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I'm not sure how she's going to get a
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sense of the country of origin of the
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boring baby was the baby born in the US
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yes now that's an interesting wrinkle
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right there yes but so was his wife
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hmm oh wait she's America's American
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well but she senegalese but she was born
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in America interesting how did they meet
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well she was born in America but then
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they went back to her family went back
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to Senegal when she was a little kid so
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she grew up in central huh
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but a so and that's where they met but
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she had the option of going back to
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America for college which she wanted to
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do and she said listen I want to go to
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college for a couple years in America
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and he was like i'll go with you
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mhm and then fast forward 10 long years
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later and he's still here in diesel and
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he says you know as you do he says time
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flies and I was like yeah time does fly
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my there's anything that time does its
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flying it flies and flies and flies and
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flies so uh so yeah what can you say I
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mean yeah it's a you know the thing
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about senegal it's nice there
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smell to always be here
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Roderick on the line and all the great
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shows so I was at this house opening
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this a little bit house in the open
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house inning and two interesting things
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happened what they were there was a
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partnership of two real estate agents
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and I was trying to decide if they were
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a romantic partnerships who would have
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to always wonder ya doing real estate
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together whether this was just
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completely a partnership but i think a
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lot of those relationships start with a
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professional partnership and pretty soon
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it's a fucking key party that's my guess
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they were working pretty closely
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together one of them was a man my age or
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liberals we are my age or a little older
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who from India em who was very you know
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very like suave and he kept saying
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things like you know one of the one of
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the ways that we conduct our business
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like one of our fundamental tenants of
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our business relationship is that we are
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very low pressure no pressure at all
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so if you'll just sign into this ipad
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app that we have and and you know and
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here's my business card and take also
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here's like my wallet I want you to hold
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it for me for a while yes I'll come find
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you later when i need it and I was like
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hey I'm just walking through here I'm
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not gonna I'm not looking to buy a house
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that's not gonna touch and ipad I'm just
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yeah I'm not good not only am I not
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touching an ipad like i'm not even
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putting my fingerprints on the doorknob
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so just to keep myself you know what my
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daughter and my office I'm not here I'm
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never here I'm not here right now
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that's what I'd say to the Indian man i
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would say with all due respect i would
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say i'm not here
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listen you're not seeing me I'm not here
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I'm not holding your wallet I don't even
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know what's going on I don't know I
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don't know what's happening but I'm
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definitely gonna touch and ipad and I'm
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so not here
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yeah so that's what was happening with
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him the other guy had a sort of the
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other guy the other guy was sort of a
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pale stocky shaved head
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mmm sort of like a job he looked well he
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wasn't like that
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stocky but he was like a fraternity guy
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also not quite my age but you know a
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little bit younger somebody in his late
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thirties early forties booth and so I so
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and not miss the second guy not really
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in possession of any suavity whatsoever
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and I was so i was trying to put them
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together and I know that like opposites
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attract but this was this was very they
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were very far apart on the on the swab
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scale so I'm talking saw the one the one
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guy is is given me the hard sell about
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how he never give somebody the hard sell
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the other guys super nice the the friday
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one super nice super chill and as we're
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leaving their actually walking down this
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the front steps of the house with me
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that I'm trying to shake him off a
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little bit like okay well this was great
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really great to meet you i love the way
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you guys like set up a house and I'm got
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here now I'm not like already down the
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block and they're just kind of coming
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with me
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I don't know how far we're going no no I
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don't know where they're getting in the
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car with me or not and the and the frat
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guy says yeah well ever since I was shot
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in Afghanistan it's always a little bit
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harder for me to get down this
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and I was like so I stopped at that
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point and took about three steps back
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toward him like I wasn't leaving now and
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I was like really know you that didn't
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read as a bit
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oh well I didn't care if you if you I
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mean it doesn't always pulling out the
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Afghanistan car he sure is and but if
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somebody's gonna pull out the shot in
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Afghanistan card
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I'm yeah they're right so i went off in
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that stack sure did I got back up to
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where the touch the toe of my shoe was
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within a shoe length of the toe of his
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uh-huh and I said tell me we're not
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getting shot in Afghanistan and he was
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like well it
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yeah it really so we it was a long rehab
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and I said it affected your balance like
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did you get shot in the spine and he
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turns around he said no the bullet went
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in here and he points to behind his ear
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yeah oh god and it came out here any
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points to the other side of his head up
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his temple
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what and I was like I'm what so he's a
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medical anomaly
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yeah how did that how could that not
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just had to put her and I said it so it
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went through your abdominal oh yeah blah
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blah blahblah yeah and he said you know
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just just missed it and I said uh-uh
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what kind of rehab was did you lose
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cognitive ability and he said a little
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bit of memory issues but I had to learn
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to walk again and i'm still a little bit
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you know unstable and he's very you know
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he if if you got a bullet all the way
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through you like that huh yeah i would
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talk about it to you know I would find a
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way to prepare to bring that into
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conversation because that's pretty and
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so and you can see the wounds in his
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head which have healed on God and he's
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like you know and I grew up in this
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neighborhood and I lived three blocks
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away and now i'm selling real estate
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here and it and the you know the indian
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guy is like yep and I'm uh you know I've
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been a real estate agent for 30 years so
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are our expertise really combines and I
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said listen I didn't want to buy a house
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before but now I do
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hmm i want to buy a house from you
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because you seem like a good guy to keep
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yeah like holy cannolis you know and so
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then you know then it's like I might as
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well have been in a cab with him because
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all I wanted to do was stand there and
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talk to him about this experience
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meaning how do you mean that feels when
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he pulls out that story I think he
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thinks it's great because hmm i was so
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close to sign into that ipad if he had
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said listen if you want to keep talking
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to him you gotta sign in the ipad i
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would kind of tough choice to make
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yeah they didn't you know he didn't like
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but but he this was the reason that I
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thought maybe they're in a relationship
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because he was you know he seemed kinda
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proud of his partner proud of the story
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like he hadn't heard it enough times it
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was it wasn't that that's lovely
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yeah every time was new again because
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you don't there's no way you could
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contemplate that enough times like I
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believe by his by his main by his
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general main that that this man was an
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officer in the in what I had to assume
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that was the military and I was so
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focused on his injury that I did not do
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the normal thing which is what branch of
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service where you what rank were you
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what was your job what was your you know
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I didn't get into that because it seemed
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to me he's not stealing valor
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well I knew that I unless this was a
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wound that he received working on the
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railroad and I feel like that's a hard
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one to two just like drum up like you
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sitting in the bar like I was a Navy
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SEAL really yeah actually you with I got
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shot in the back of the head
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yeah show me your challenge coin figure
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but it seemed at that moment it seemed
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even small to ask what branch of the
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service he was in you know like someone
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somebody starts telling a story like
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that you either gotta leave the
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situation if you're going to stay you
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gotta just get out of the way
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sure right because you're not going to
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say it like backtrack and say okay
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alright let's set the scene like where
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did you
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go to college which is normally how if
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somebody jumps into a thing I'm iri hold
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on hold on hold on let me get situated
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yeah there's a couple of things I need
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to know where did you grow up and how
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did you get where
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how did you get to the beginning of the
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story but I didn't care you know this
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was just a thing where the recovery from
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this injury given i knew that i will I
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wasn't gonna spend all day here the
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recovery from the injury was what was
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interesting about this story and how he
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got how you got shot in the back of the
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head seems like it but we'll get to that
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in the course of our friendship as yet
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in your capacity as my new real estate
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agents because i'm buying a house in
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this neighborhood i don't know how i
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don't i don't know how to find the money
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I don't even want to live here
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yeah but I just wanted I want to have
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you over for breakfast so I never I
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didn't find out enough about that story
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that i can see that i can retell it as a
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as a like a like a good thing where
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where I have where I have the whole
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story altogether but I'm gonna I think
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I'm gonna I'm gonna go track him down
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because there's just there's no you're
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gonna go you're gonna give another throw
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like you could take a meeting that feels
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that feels user eous to go because all
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he wants to do is sell a house right i
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mean he and and to go like pretend that
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i want to look at houses just to hear
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this but through the head story
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mmm i actually don't intend to buy a
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house there
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ok but in the course of life who I will
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recognize i will recognize those too if
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I see them I would recognize them each
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individually and if I get into if I get
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into a situation because it because it
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also might be interesting to sequester
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his partner and say so give me a little
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background here at what point did you
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guys meet was he already back up on his
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did you know it before yeah that's just
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so much to this story but that's that's
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certainly put a complication more
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complications into the I mean it all
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feels very complicated right now
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yeah feels very very exciting your truck
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blew up a truck blew up
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plural and the following sentence
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escaped my lips yesterday as my as my
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dear mother about rolled her eyes at me
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for the 10,000 time I said you know what
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I'm just going to sell everything will
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sell everything i'ma buy a subaru oh and
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she lit up she was like great idea I
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think that's a great idea subaru you
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know new Subaru it will never talking to
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break down it's not gonna I'm never
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going to get a call where you suddenly
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need me to something you're just going
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to be not gonna have to sleep in it
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overnight with a child without heat
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that's right this is just behind the
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benefits can be Joe mr. man John mr.man
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there was this big with the lesbians are
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instead of going
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yeah they were like let's embrace this
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lets the answer but what do I need you
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to put this lesbian in a Subaru you know
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popular car because they were a
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four-wheel-drive it's almost like the
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opposite of an SUV or like people go out
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and buy SUV so they can rep that there's
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somebody with an SUV is the super seem
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like something people because they
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genuinely use the features of its like
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go places in camp and stuff like that
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subaru like a that remember that iconic
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blue color of a Subaru kind of a light
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blue subaru
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the light brute blue subaru like came
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with cross country skis already on it
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are already over
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you know like it was the car in Alaska
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that that you drove if you were if you
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yeah and then it was the first kind of
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with heated seats interesting i love
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heated seats fold all the Volvo's were
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always sold to us as like you could
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survive any accident because people in
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Alaska dial the time getting t-boned on
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icy roads and then I had a good friend
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whose mom got just creamed by a massive
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transfusion her
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straight on tee shot who on a on a major
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thoroughfare where a guy in a in a ford
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bronco didn't even see the light and
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just hit are going 55 miles an hour
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oh my god and she she had to use the
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other door to get out of the car was
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basically the injury that she received
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like it it was a car where it was a
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crook collision where the Bronco was
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wrecked and the vulva was just a twisted
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hunk of metal and she just got over into
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the passenger seat got out and was like
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huh well that wasn't very fun like no
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damage to her at all because the volvo
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was some kind of miracle car Yeah right
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right they named it was wasn't like one
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of the original cars that we thought the
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idea of how you put the boxes together
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and all the right parts of crumpled and
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if you're using a Volvo head on this is
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get it to the extent possible doesn't
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get to where the cabin that you're in
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but also liked it transfers it's like
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just basically make the engine dropout
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like it takes all that is it something
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like that i think what happens is it
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gets trance that gets transferred into
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solar energy that you know what that's
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that'sthat's good it's clean its
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renewable take away and then it gets
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transferred through some kind of volvo
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proprietor
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process into a hydroponic farm and put
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some drm probably yeah oh yeah
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absolutely right so but the subaru is
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now the National Car of Seattle which is
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increasingly becoming its own nation and
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so everywhere you go there's a Subaru
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that either and they all have bumper
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stickers and most common ones are
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coexist with each letter represented by
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the symbol of a different religion so
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high so many problems with that from
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graphic design standpoint coexist very
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troubling to me totally unreadable
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unless you've looked at a thousand of
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them which everyone of us has coexist
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and also coexist i think has some
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association with Bono
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oh isn't that Miss even worse yeah so
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that every time I see that bumper
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sticker also somehow now bono is in my
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head a little bit it's just sort of
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rebel song he's just peeking around the
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corner down the hall like this i'm also
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here the glasses yellow don't mean to
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book your mr. I and then the other one
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that goes on every subaru everyone that
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doesn't have to co-exist has a wag more
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bark less no realize world plants were
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visualized or cheese and then there's
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one and he just here in the northwest
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visualized tacoma which is which dates
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back to that era where it was like wha
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wackadoodle and that's gone right from
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the culture mostly that kind of
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wackadoodle is gone
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yeah wouldn't you say there's nobody
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putting out like visualize to come up or
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stickers weird
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yeah we squeeze two we used to have more
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joy does anybody remember laughter it
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I don't know did you know I don't know
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if we've talked about this but yet
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somebody asked somebody asked Robert
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all the years you know you've done a lot
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of crazy things i'm sure you've been in
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a jet airplane with a bunch of people
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that all died and you were the only one
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to walk off i mean like like any regrets
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and he was like he said the one thing I
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regret is that does anybody remember
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laughs are you kidding no and i was like
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i would that would be what I regretted
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to you i know i know just one like at
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nowhere and like that's your that's your
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thing now that's your thing right and I
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were mixing that and when they were
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putting that out
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they said to him you know hey you want
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to come by and check out the mix and
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just make sure that it all sounds good
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often do which is like I'm sure it
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sounds fine yeah and we find and then it
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came out and and I subsequent to that
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for 35 years people have been walking
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out really good left my god
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and yeah that's the one thing Robert
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Plant regrets it's the one thing he
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could think up
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yeah you know I got feelings about
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robert plant is very sad what happened
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with his son and you think about that i
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know i really i genuinely feel sorry for
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Robert Plant and didn't see that coming
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this morning
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mhm so you're looking at Subarus you're
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looking at land
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no I I definitely do not I on one hand I
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feel like a Subaru is an unimpeachable
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decision like if I went and bought a
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Subaru it would be the kind of indignity
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that I could like what would happen is i
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would fall in everyone's esteem a little
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really I if you can picture this picture
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this scenario i come on our podcast and
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you say i was going today and i go i was
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pretty good i just bought a Subaru now
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think about that tweet something again
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there's gonna be a lot of Subaru owners
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that tweet me positively like welcome
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have you checked out the subaru have you
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read your owner's manual yet I see but
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they're going to be a little respect
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today expect to be in the subaru
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community you thinking about or at least
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I'd be welcome there but there i think
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are a lot of listeners to our program
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that imagine that my next car will be
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some kind of anti tank vehicle it stands
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to reason you know my next car will be a
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three-man submarine you get a deep
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decommission how much are slimmer
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submarine ya there
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and put a massage chair in a nice and so
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to to reveal myself to be a like a real
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human being who's like a super was the
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best value or like our it seems you know
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I've got a kid and it seems like exactly
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find out the wizard of oz eating Arby's
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yeah precisely why would I can't because
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it's not just people listen to our
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program like I've gotta wraps around
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this town
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yeah i'll start your brand John it
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absolutely is not show up and Superbad
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something that people will be like did
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you did you like steel that recently and
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I'm like now I bought it and it was just
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no one would know what's stopping my
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friend no one would think that I was any
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oh but i would fall just that three
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percent in their steam
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yeah thats 3% could be a lot of percent
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it can and so so as soon as my mom
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walked away I was like heck no i'm
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buying an experimental helicopter and
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she turned around and was like what did
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you say I was like nothing subaru
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probably but maybe i'll get one of those
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super is with a big like with what
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appears to be like a blower on the front
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I know it's not a blower but it's some
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kind of turbo-charged juror it's like a
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piper charger they have a lot there are
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super is with a lot of works on them
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because they're used in rally drifting
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drift rallies but I feel like that's
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just that sort of that's that bolt on
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accessorizing that again i could i I
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just I can't I can't quite stand up with
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pride with a Subaru patch on my jacket
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and say like yeah I bolted onto make
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well I don't think you're as houses
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check your text i sent you something on
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I I don't think you are a watcher of the
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TV show Project Runway but I'm gonna
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tell you something I learned from
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project runway which is there's a weekly
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challenge
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ok and you to really listen to what the
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spirit of the challenges because here's
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what they don't want you to do no matter
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what the challenge is what they don't
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want you to do is take some Muslim make
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a basic tank dress and then put a bunch
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of shit on it
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don't fucking make a basic tank dress
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out of Muslim
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and what is a Muslim I met Muslim and
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then dress it up with a bunch of God
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don't ya don't don't sparkle tron it
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don't don't what size whether it be
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Julie like you know you have to go your
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design is the design like make a thing
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don't make a thing and then just put a
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bunch of fucking candy on it like that's
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not it that's not a design and I I feel
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like there's something similar going on
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John is not going to be a guy that goes
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and buys a stock subaru and then put
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bedazzle zit no war is not the answer
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piece also takes courage company
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elizabeth warren wing of the Democratic
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Party so what I'm saying it's time to
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use our outside voices it really is
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little behavior women seldom make
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history
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they sure do they sure don't see you
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know everybody's John wild women don't
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get the Blues Merlin that's right i'm
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known a lot of wild women and I've known
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a lot of women with the blues and the
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those band diagrams do not overlap me
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you show me and in my blues and she will
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not be wild and conversely when I mean a
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wild women I know she does not have the
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Blues snapping three times like and in
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column a than one from column B so the
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photo i sent you of this car that is
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frequently near our house parking this
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handicap space now this is a photo that
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you took this isn't a thing from the
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internet knows about my house and now
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the first of all see ivory mixed
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feelings about this because first of all
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this person is there a lot
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is that a playstation oh the person is
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this car is there a lot and it always
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makes me laugh every time I walk by
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discovered in that way that only hippies
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with no taste can do has slapped bumper
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stickers on to the painted part of this
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car and on top of one another
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oh and its really it's I i realized it's
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supposed to be maybe a little bit what
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situation is punk rock to do it this way
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but they did mostly bother to try and
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get them horizontally aligned right it
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isn't it doesn't totally crazy is my
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cover your laptop with band stickers in
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like a haphazard way like this
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it started out with a little bit of like
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and also notice for example ok so i
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won't get one thing out of the way they
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are parked in a handicapped space we do
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have do you have
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hang tag but i also want to stipulate
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for the record that San Francisco has a
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read on carelessly high rate of abuse a
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king because guess what you get to do
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when you get a hang tag you don't have
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to pay parking meters
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yeah she's gonna walk down terrible
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street buddy we're doing
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thank you all it's just solid solid
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anything it's just it anyway out about
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finding articles and you but there's two
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things you thinking ahead and hang tag
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because they also had a like a fake
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comfort horse thing i don't know i don't
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know you know I'm coming around on that
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but I also want to point out some of
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these they have bubbles like where they
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didn't really put much care into putting
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it on here
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corporations are not people corporations
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are not for money out Bernie in boerne
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but also look at that back fender buddy
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save our be like don't just look at the
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design of the stickers
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notice how many dents and dings and
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scuffs this person is hitting a lot of
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oh they are you saying it's a it's a
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hybrid car
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yeah but it's so it doesn't
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fundamentally sound way but you know the
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specific it's not like a civic hybrid
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yeah yeah yeahs lotus-like on that top
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level like across the word advocate you
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see how torn up that sticker is that's
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because they just keep hitting things
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yeah we are citizens united my love the
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little yellow one which seems very new
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which is a system in broken it's fixed
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it's fixed true what is that strong will
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get money skimming money out of politics
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where / strong sharps money out wrong
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Stanley out of some not money climate
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voter my voice my values my vote but the
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the system isn't broken thing which is
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new is slapped over the top of the save
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the Arctic auntie shell and the the
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shits himself on top of save our bees
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yes but the shell symbol is half shell
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oil simple with the devil horn half
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polar bear face have cartoon polar
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that's this so much confused messaging
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on here and then when you your when you
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zoom in that far to look at that then
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you see how damaged that bumper is low
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its super damage to bumper is trashed
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this person this president is here is
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like they had one
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oopsie while they were like parallel
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parking no this is a serial car header
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and they seem like an awful person was
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the tag was expired wasn't really well
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they don't let me that because they have
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a handicap know they're handy can handle
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yeah I feel like those are the people
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that yell at me on the internet a lot
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and there are people that are ostensibly
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I share this like the tabs people who
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have like really a very bad bumper
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sticker aesthetic ow ok so I'm really
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glad you went in that direction thank
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yes I totally agree i told this is
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aesthetically uh and you know if this
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was on the back of like a minibus I
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don't want I don't want to sound I don't
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want to be
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that's racist against box where anything
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is but but you know on this particular
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like late model and Little John I mean
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how old is this car naming 34 years old
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mm-hmm look at this it's a new car new
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ish car and they just been banging the
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shit out of other cars missing on that
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left side and think it's actually just
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as I'm not gonna put the socks and shame
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this person but the but there are the
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defender is published under the
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bumper-to-bumper is stuffed everywhere
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it is broken in parts and they shredded
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their own stickers from hitting things
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so often discarded it's car maybe the
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left thank you ever city
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it reminds me exactly of my old guitar
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case which I you know I constantly
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slapped other band stickers and stuff
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you know you're out there in the world
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and you play with the band and here's
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our sticker and slap it on your guitar
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case and it's the lives you do it right
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in front of them so you're like yeah
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love playing the show with you and then
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you you put your fiber sticker on your
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on your guitar
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yep but the way that the sticker or the
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way the guitars fit into the van
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required that Eric course and our chief
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he was he was gifted that wasn't yeah he
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was chief jigsaw operator he always my
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guitar was always the last thing to go
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in the in the truck and and as a
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consequence it got crammed in to a space
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that was just slightly too small for it
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and so the stickers on my guitar case
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were both compressed into the case and
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also like ground kind of shredded and as
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time went on i just put more stickers on
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top of the shredded stickers and it's
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just it's it's just chaos looking and it
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looks kinda like the back bumper of that
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garbage car this year rickenbacker yeah
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the rickenbacker and boy loved that
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yeah yeah but i still get such a feeling
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when I see a Rickenbacker it gives you
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that rickenbacker feeling I have when I
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told you this i want to sell it for rent
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yeah that's a 12-string oh so what you
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don't want to have to sell things for
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red but college man that's what you do
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it's a tablet everything it's
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complicated to be or not it's not you're
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not always able to go back to Center
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call sometimes you have to play feet say
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so on my guitar don't go back to
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Rockville so wasted another year
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no no pero now
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well that was a great you know if you
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need a campfire song buddy looking for
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spaghetti party in Romania campfire
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spaghetti party that's going to pull out
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and go back to Rockville I
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and go back to Rockville I
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so Peter bucket here but famously said
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you know every time I play and I I don't
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remember what he said this in an
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interview or whether he's I think he
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actually said this to me
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yeah he's always saying things to me I
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well you know we were somewhere and I
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said peter is very literal a person LOL
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yeah he's interested in in my experience
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oh I I know a few people in rem yes
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let's say everybody except for a single
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no I have but know him well enough that
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that I mean he doesn't walk up and say
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John but you know he has he has said
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John to me and say he has no your name
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at some point yes that's nice
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the only one of everyone in the band
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that was an original member and even
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some of the later members that is at all
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what you would call figure to his mills
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connecting those little cat no kin is
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extremely figured but he's a late
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addition I guess I take your point and
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he's not in the band anymore so I
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saucony kind of in rem at some point
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he's he's been are inferred years and he
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is still in the band and Scott is scott
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is also figurative but like Michael and
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and Peter both seem very pretty literal
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even given this very surprising to me
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even given stripes like I think one of
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the one of the things about his original
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lyrics was that they were so figurative
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as to be meaningless and as he got as
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his lyrics got more and more mixed
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forward and he felt more empowered to
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make them make sense
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we saw that they that the litter ality
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of them was a little bit of a problem
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right like I needed to to my leg off the
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type of type of lyrics
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mm-hmm notice not as much but anyway
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peter said but now i'm picking he
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absolutely said he literally had his
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finances Orange Crush well i mean that's
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that's the question
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he's got my eyes that I've got my spine
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I've got my orange crush
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I don't think he says I got my spine in
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my orange crush
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ok and i think he does have his spawn
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and he does have his orange crush
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ok this is the thing right you can like
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Oh does that mean something
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maybe or maybe he's just saying some
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things that he has you cigarette out
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yeah but Peter said every 44 years and
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years and and still to this day there is
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always a group of dudes standing right
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in front of me watching me play guitar
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trying to figure out the secret and he
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said here's the secret d g e-- see em
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yeah and he's like I every time I get on
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stage I'm like sorry group of dudes who
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think that there's a secret it's just
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these chords played into a guitar that's
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plug straight into the amp and maybe
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there's a tube screamer and it's true
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right when you really watch what he does
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I mean he's got that fast pickin and is
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an arpeggiator he's an arpeggiator but
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that's all it is that the whole trick
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arpeggiation epochs like Pixar i think
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one of the ways I'm are a lot of a pixar
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one of the things that i love about
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pixar is that in addition to having kind
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of the most baller technology and in any
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given time with animation they're also
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canny about always as a truism that I'm
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not creating this is just a truism that
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was really good at saying well we can't
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really make people look anything but
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creepy so let's make toys like we can do
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the surfaces of toys and all the way
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like you know we can do hair and water
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now there's all these things were like
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at the stories change as they were able
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to do more things and you even though
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you didn't watch the movie oh I get it
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now they can do hair to the monsters inc
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and I feel a little bit about people
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where he's he's very forthcoming about
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saying hey I i barely i was working at a
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record store like I
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barely knew how to play anything on a
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guitar in the early days
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yeah and I always liked the fact that
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like he kind of went with his strength
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and one thing he got pretty good at was
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having a pretty good rhythm and and your
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pickiness for playing like open chords
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many made it work and then be sure to a
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little bit of piano you get a camera out
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of that like it's not Liberace but
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cameras pretty fucking great song and he
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liked you didn't pick up the mandolin
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and all of a sudden it's a best sonic
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boom yeah I don't know III mini Mitchie
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sir said because I played a show with me
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she's really yeah 11 time I Mitch easter
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and his band which included his wife
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let's act let's active played she's not
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open for REM oh you did back in the day
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yep let's active opened for ken
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stringfellow on the tour that he and I
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did together in and this was the same
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tour where you and I met
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yep oakland let's active opened for us
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in some kind of Georgia town somewhere
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the larger Georgia old wall then they
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came out and and you know ken loved to
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introduce me to those you know two
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people like that
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yeah and so we're all sitting around in
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and mr. said REM was the only band i
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ever worked with where every single
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person in the band when they were
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listening to the mixes asked if I could
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turn their part down that's that's
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amazing
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isn't that something yeah that makes me
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so happy to hear each one of them was
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like could you put me which makes me in
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a little bit and he's like that is just
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not as he said I was like that's not our
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people are still very gets his props
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because I think he's astonishing I throw
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props at him all the time because
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because all you have to know is he left
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the band and then the records working
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anymore
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those first few albums man like he's
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coming up with such that mean is I'm
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sorry we're talking about RM again but
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like those three musicians have such
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different styles but you kinda can't
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imagine
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there's no other way there's no like
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chaos theory that would ever arrive at
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the chaos theory of REM because it's so
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crazy like the beats the bilberry comes
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up with are so weird and when you watch
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and play them they don't sound you don't
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hear them go that's strange
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you don't think like oh my god Mike
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Mills is based on this is really really
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odd i think that his bass parts are
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weird i love them i love them from me
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too me too i mean looking out for me you
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know me on the first the the first three
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records are my go-to but like you know
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i'm especially on a say on reckoning
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like some of that stuff is bananas
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mhm i am you know where we're such big
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fans and you know I talk about them in
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ways that I'm never sure if if if they
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happen to tune into one of these
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podcasts which I'm not saying they don't
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yeah they want whether they would be
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whether they would say like mm I don't
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like the way he's talking about us but I
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I couldn't love them more but it's just
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you know when you get to when you get
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close to get you get proximate because I
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would never say i was close but I'm
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proximate to them
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yeah well you and your in where people
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would compare the long winters two other
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bands much to mine I think your
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frustration REM was a frequent
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comparison although I never heard it
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uh I never heard it but I you know
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anybody that compared us to REM I was
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like thank you that's so much better
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than being compared to the guy that did
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pastor jones comparison Oh for a little
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while some record some one person made a
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review in the salt lake city services
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never read any of like if we need was to
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cover van morrison still down the
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westing like this but he hit man what is
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that man called it's a doctor
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funkenstein or whatever what what are
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they called those and the phone starters
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mr. mr. Jones mr. Jones that's I know
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this is a counting crows mm no no
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ok and it's not Jim blossoms that was
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magic lessons is a counting crows it
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might be counting the county cross does
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a song that I like this diet is governed
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counting crows song that I like no it
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was years after came out I heard on the
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radio I was like what the fuck is this
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and it was believable
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it was really good yeah it is counting
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crows county boroughs and I think
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counting crows houses on who is not
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hitting the Blowfish that's a different
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band counting crows have some very
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redeeming features i am think I think
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that they are imaginative than I think
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that they have good song good songs
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angels angels of the silences is that a
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song that you have ever heard
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angel of the morning angels angels
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angels of the silences i know i don't
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mean if I heard it I might know it 1996
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know is that the year that that year is
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that the one that existed or didn't
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no that's the one right before the one
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that didn't exist and what exactly six
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was pretty seriously it count on the
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bubble almost not existing at 96 I think
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I mean some stuff happened but it is not
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quite as like null as 97 but now when do
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you get when you get the the the color
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and the shape that's an ear that didn't
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exist right color in the shade that's a
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good album it's pretty existed
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yeah that's a job with the other night I
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don't know why this happened
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ok I went down an Internet rabbit hole
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as you do and I came out I came out all
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the way across my lawn
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I went down like a rabbit hole that was
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next to my fireplace and all of a sudden
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inexplicable amount of my lawn and it's
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not clear how I got there
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you got him uncle but where I was was in
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in joy division
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mm and then of course as you do when you
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when you're enjoy Division I know he's
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already know this rabbit hole
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yeah you end up in new order yep and
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then I want a certain point you stop and
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then I watched every new order video
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don't-don't-don't couldn't and didn't
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gotta love yours
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new order has always been a very
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complicated listen for me some one
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because the singing is bad it's just
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it's just an arguably battle thin it's
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not into which is a thing that is fine
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in the context of an order because it
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works somehow you know what I mean like
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yeah that wasn't in tune but it's so new
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order that it doesn't matter you kind of
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went with that kind of a mopey vocal it
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kind of works that kind of works it's
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like oh yeah he doesn't need to be in
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tune I mean Morsi only uses three notes
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but it was never like that say you
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always think the third always think the
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third yeah
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who is that was at chads just check ins
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check the country gentleman we call it
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yeah that's right morsi's the only
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everything is the third time we were all
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sitting around in Bakersfield but ladies
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and gentlemen mr. buck owens I 10 total
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now you're gonna buck owens whole you
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ever get into that you ever go down the
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buckaroos i watch so we have this kind
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of song is repeating fucking
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conversations from years ago yet you
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must have gone down the Don rabbit hole
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example here yeah
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holy shit that guy what what you know
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you know buckle and his heart was broken
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for years after yeah after he died i'll
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tell you what
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so was mine mhm i have ever gone to have
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you ever gone down a Barrett Martin
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rabbit hole Carol Barrett Martin ram so
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barren Martin is actually i'm gonna i'm
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gonna go i'm gonna step way out and I
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know that people sometimes roll their
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eyes and just like my mom does at the at
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the sort of celebrities like not
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celebrity but like grunge rock era
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celebrity name dropping that I sometimes
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doing this program
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yeah but bear Martin I'm gonna jump all
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the way out there and say he's actually
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a friend of mine he's not somebody that
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I'm Erin Martin eric martin and very
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Martin has played in the following band
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is otherwise known as green Barrett
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creating barret barret barret Martin
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parent Martin was screaming trees
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Oh in this screen i made in our I
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already know them very well looking at
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me to have some time he was in Queens of
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the Stone Edge oh no
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I like that band he was the drummer mad
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season he was in skin yours is the girl
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drummer in that band
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no no but he so he's a guy that is such
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a good drummer that every one of these
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bands at a certain point I mean he you
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know like every one of these bands at a
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certain point was like we need a good
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drummer let's get not not like to but
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sometimes he's just playing like the
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other getting that Chamberlain you get a
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bear Martin and he's like he was the he
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was the drummer of Mad Season times and
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he was in skin yard but you know Jason
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was in skin yard is that right detective
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of it he only has the one tattoo as far
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as i know
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ok he you know he played screaming trees
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walking papers to atara without Scott
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McCoy in that Peter Buck and Scott McCoy
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I think dammit these guys are confusing
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yeah they're all together they're all
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moms crisis like I was like a rat King
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yeah uh-huh and actually talking some of
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that was maybe section work
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he's a very good driver and the minus 5
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is that is that the thing that robyn
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Hitchcock and Bob Pollard did you know
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technically i'm in the minus 5 is that
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right yeah because uh because Scott
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McCoy always said if you've ever played
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if you ever been in the minus 5 that you
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are still in the minus five which I
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thought was a 2nd marine yeah that's
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right just saying is as a retired as I'm
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yeah so he said you know he says that
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pretty regularly which is bits of
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typical Scott because generosity
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oh and so that enables me because there
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are a lot of people who have been on
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stage with the minus 5
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do you like they're like discounts and
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stuff like that the places you can you
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show your card
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no because it's a thing where it's one
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thing for me to be in a bar in Brooklyn
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and say I'm in 2-5 mhm and it's another
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thing for me to walk up to Peter Buck
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and say well as you know i'm in a band
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of you as you know I'm you know that
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that's a little bit that's what you know
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there are a lot a lot of people that
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have been played at minus-5 and you
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don't want to
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you don't want to just you don't play
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that card too often you know what I'm
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saying you want to underplay that in
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that car okay because you know I was
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like the Afghanistan card you don't pull
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it out all the time
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yeah right i mean it if i if I'm sitting
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in a hotel lobby with mark i tol em I'll
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say oh yeah you and I are both in the
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minus 5 and markets all have to deal
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just got to sit with that yeah but I've
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never met Jeff Tweety which seems
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surprising but I never have but it's not
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a good sport
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yeah he does but if I rolled up on Jeff
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Tweety I you know that actually might be
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my intro with him to like know you look
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at minus-5 challenge coin i might be
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like you and I earned a band together
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and he's like uh huh but i'd say we
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wrote the minus 5 and he seems like the
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type of guy that would get that yeah
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yeah he's on he's I he's made
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appearances on on on TV shows i like and
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he seems like a very good sport
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yeah he does one is when I saw that
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movie I that was available time will
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come movie
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yeah that was a bad time in my life and
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I walked out of that theater with the
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with the Swift they liked it the taste
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of batteries in my mouth
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who here but since then i feel like i
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have i've come back around and everybody
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i know you know hodgman's close with
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those guys somehow and and everybody
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says he saw these pieces astonishing so
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what can I say I agree
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oh you're in a band together Yeah right
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sure I mean you can't hate anybody
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that's been in the minus 5 except for
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colin Meloy and I don't come on I'm
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kidding there's a native of parks and
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recreation
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all you really need to know about it is
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that it features a concert and a concert
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in include appearances by yo tengo while
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they're in disguise as a different band
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but yo tengo and the decemberists and a
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band featuring Jeff Tweety how do you
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know anybody in yo tengo no I met them
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outside an elevator at south by
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southwest and they were very gracious
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where you at South by Southwest doing a
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tech talk all you're so mad at me i
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didn't really I didn't mean to make you
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no wait mad at you ok I think Matt just
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play a fine manager i just got a issue
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and I was why was i there
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I've done two things at South by
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Southwest I think and they're only
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nominally tech related but I was it does
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in my hotel and I mean you know here's
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the thing above all I am a fan
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unlike you i am a fan I I am I know you
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might develop very very strong almost
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creepy feelings about certain bands and
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one of those is yo tengo en you ready
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for this my instruction yo tengo is fake
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book weird first record a guy that I was
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in a band with gave me a cassette you
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should check this out i was like oh my
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god this man's incredible sound
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absolutely nothing like what ya tengo
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actually it was it covers acoustic
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covers anyway doesn't matter but IRA in
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Georgia were waiting for the same
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elevator and I was like a day are now
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and I do my usual i think i think i said
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it's really enjoy your work thank you
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for doing what you do
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yeah I did you want to say that didn't
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you make sure not to get in the elevator
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with them
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yeah then you put your wallet out and
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say hello hello I literally can't think
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you're safe can you hear me now
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that's not my line yeah no yeah that was
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uh I remember you mean you are one of a
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small handful of people who have put yo
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la tengo in front of me you i've sat
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down at the dinner table I've tucked
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into the table i put my burn it's not
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it's not it's not a same-day enterprise
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to get into yellow tengo yeah that you
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put the plate down and there's yo la
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tengo on and I go and design is another
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one with the yo la tengo and vegetables
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job I have never had a bad experience
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with you'll attend canal but as you know
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i just sort of like big maps in that it
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i have consumed them quite a bit and I
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have enjoyed them quite a bit to have
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been there if you're there when it
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happened it's different I mean like you
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and all the screaming trees Taipans like
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when you were there like that's a
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different kind of thing and I never
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that's the thing i never played with
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them I never stood on the side of the
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stage and it and absorbed it from that
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standpoint and that's usually how I get
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to be close with the ball they do the
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musician into a very good live show
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I something with the city with lamb chop
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one of those terrible little great
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American where you have to sit at a
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table I've spent a lot of time with lamb
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job it's a hell of a band
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yeah we played a lot of shows zoo again
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adjacent is there anybody else that
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you'd like to mention that you've met a
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boy so many people let me think
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I mean you know really mean it doesn't
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have to be a headliner who nothing but
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Jeffrey Jones is that the guy that
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killed all those people with the TV
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party tonight
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that's right you are you tea party
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compact TV party all right yeah yeah
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yeahs institutionalized I'm not crazy
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yeah I met a lot of people mr. Roderick
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yeah i remember i was there
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yeah I read scott miller book is a book
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about Scott Miller read that I'm afraid
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that I you know I used to be i used to
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be a lot more reticent about just
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sitting on this program and just
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throwing names around really but I feel
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like you've always been pretty
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comfortable it feels like the one about
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that John Wesley Harding ever met him
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it feels like lately we've been doing it
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more and I don't I feel like it's coming
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from me and I don't know what you're
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doing that's in the show is in the show
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that's always been my can't people just
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understand that stuff comes up you know
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what it comes up it comes up and then
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it's in the show that's how you know
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it's in the show is it's part of the
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yeah nobody ever called pablo picasso
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and also that's right
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not mine no I think that John captain
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john cale song right John Cale John
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Kelly doesn't sign up but um apparently
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thinking you know that song
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yeah the one that goes come on come on
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come on now touch me baby about the bar
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how'd you see that I'm not afraid
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no is eric ray manzarek he he produced
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he produced acts and iÃve met John Doe
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I spend a little time with job isn't he
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a nice man what's really missing anybody
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else have we met John a very handsome
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very very handsome and he's always very
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nice to my daughter when we see him he's
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a sweet sweet sweet nopales we also was
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a jonathan richman song i think the
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cover of a john cale song it was
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produced by john cale pop out of her go
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back to jonathan richman you ever go
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back to the modern lovers i do because i
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keep thinking it was the next time I
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listen to it is going to be the time not
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that into it but I'm frequently
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surprised by how much I i still really
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enjoy is not as I'm just like his jokey
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stuff but something hospital like that's
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still really good song so many good
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songs and so many good like tones
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mhm um like the towns are never what you
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expect and I always thought i was a guy
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was listening to the other day where the
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thing that always astonishes me about
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tones is when a clean guitar fulfills
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the function of a distorted guitar it's
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not just a neutered rock and roll guitar
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know it's like a hot cool rebel kick and
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move but still thats up to it without
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needing to be distorted and it comes the
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ends in a track and goes like meringue
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but it pumps the song up just as it's
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like let me just get this thing
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straightened out and just comes right
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something straight down the center of
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the room
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exactly yeah I know exactly what you
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mean my instinct would always to be to
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be and I think it's an incorrect
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instinct would be to put a bunch of like
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on it a bunch of sort of overdrive
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distort oh you can have a loud guitar
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that is not distorted and people i think
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either don't know that or they forget
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that and they think that that you've
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gotta have the distortion you can have a
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very loud very clear guitar sound that
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could just knock somebody right in the
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chest and it's very compelling
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so you get to the end
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I'm straight mhm I'm straight wing
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Kingdom that guitar is just clean a shit
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hit the Johnny but who
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it lifts the tune so much and you're
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like a and every tone on it
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I just I every tone just feels so good
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it just feels so good real-time
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follow-up you are correct according to
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wikipedia which is never wrong Pablo
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Picasso is a song written by jonathan
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richman DD you're right produced by John
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canada here's the thing this is the trip
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me up or is what trips me up so that was
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recorded in 72 released in 76 john cale
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did cover the jonathan richman song
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public Casso and really fun as hell of a
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tryout 1975 turns hello
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so the original recording was by kale
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because it didn't come out by richmond
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until much later
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yeah right i've never met John kill no
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me either i've never met jonathan
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richman but he played at bumbershoot not
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very long ago and I've seen him a couple
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of times now and I don't have introduced
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myself to him many times and he's a very
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very interesting person he loves talking
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about buses
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oh I love talking about buses you should
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talk to him look at him he looks great
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65 looks terrific
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he's terrific looking guy thinks i still
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he's still wearing the striped shirt sky
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love this guy
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the famous story about him making his
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drummer play with rolled-up newspapers
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an old folks home is one that ice that I
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cannot ever i cannot forget that story
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because it makes me feel like maybe I
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should have been more crazy with my
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bandmates instead of instead of always
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wondering whether i should have been
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less crazy your you've made a lot of
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irrational demands of the people in your
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life but they're all irrational within
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normal parameters
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yeah have you ever thought about maybe
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getting out beyond that you might wanna
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get the band back together just to see
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how you can fuck with them
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well that's what I'm saying like 190
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play any apps time I remember you have
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no symbols which was like another like
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great like no symbols says PS as a peter
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gabriel and there and is that right no
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symbols no symbols there's one of those
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Peter Gabriel albums that has no
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symbols but that put that into your
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thought machine for a second
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hmm he's he said you know about Solsbury
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Hill he says I'll show that show that
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Phil Collins yeah there are several
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allowed there at all
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no no jacket required I fucked it up now
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general the last throat let's go through
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it again more like no symbols required
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am i right no symbols funk on back
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no symbolism rainbow I've never met
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rainbow I feel like know he was dead
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before we came along but I feel like
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there was there's enough problems you
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14 but for Peter Gabriel there that one
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of the problems was too many symbols and
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his answer was no symbols which has 16
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during that's extreme I could do with
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your symbols i think i would like here's
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what i'd like to do I'm going to Donald
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Trump here from now on every time you
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are you about this i want twice as much
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floor tom and half as much symbol that's
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wonderful i'm going to get even harder
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i'm gonna give you an algebra problem
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yeah I like you a lot more floor tom
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here's what I'm going to say take the
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floor tom and the symbols away here's
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what you got kick drum snare okay that's
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the end allowed to sit down
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yeah we can get it kick drum snare class
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our own go for it go for it Phil Collins
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he did kill it
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no he lied he would you know I've come
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around a little bit on him
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I don't think there's a I don't think
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you can hate on Phil Collins even though
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you absolutely can hate on some of his
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choices
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well i think also my god is that like
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jeff tweedy I think he's probably a
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stand-up dude
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yeah i heard in my wait wait don't tell
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me what we don't tell me I heard him on
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some NPR show any sound a sound totally
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charming
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yeah he might be a bastard yeah in
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addition to being totally charming but
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that's never stopped us from liking some
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life is hard on people John it's
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complicated
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he never should have covered you can't
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hurry love don't don't don't don't don't
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I just wish he hadn't done that I wish
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they could get a little alien I mean
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that definitely falls into the category
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of problematic my attic but that little
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yeah sure it was all so awful but
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but there it was you know like I don't
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that the whole here's the here's a
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question for you
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here's the thing about Phil Collins how
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is it that Peter Gabriel for all of his
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eccentricity never made a novelty song
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but like Phil Collins made a half a
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dozen novelty song all interesting and
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like the the biggest dire straits hit
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clearly a novelty song yeah right like a
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lot in the eighties a lot of novelty
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music was right up there on the charts
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but Peter Gabriel for all of his like
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why the purple / hammer Wang with like
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it's not a novelty song somehow right
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like everybody introduced a topical song
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like something about the Ayatollah or
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something yeah like on the evening news
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he never said bubbles bloomin on the
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evening news
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yeah he can't believe what I'm seeing
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Tom leather leggings and a spy support
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our True Jackson Hole I mean even
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shocked them i mean shock the monkey is
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one of the darkest fucking songs that
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ever was
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mm um some games without frontiers he's
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got a lot of issues but uh you know it's
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not like Roy Wood doing christmas songs
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know and it's not like all confused John
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probable ball that's what the world is
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hey no no well no that's not you can't
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do that
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music novelty songs to go i don't know i
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guess i think more of like you know and
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check out the draw or something like
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that i think i think that being like a
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like a bit like snooping the red baron
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or something that that's not a great
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uh right around Snoopy and the Red Baron
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is a great song it was it was right up
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there on the charts but what would you
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say came and tried a diamond on what
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that's right would you say
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that sugar sugar was a novelty song oh
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boy it was right up against it doesn't
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em but it was such a green song that's
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the question like like when when bands
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do a like an idiomatic song when Billy
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Joel does like like doo wop it's not
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novelty I'm gonna bring you around i'm
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gonna bring around Billy Joel so are in
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the sunset grill know what god man and
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woman when Billy Joel those doo-wop it's
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not novelty because I'm so in Billy Joel
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like it's it's more novelty when Billy
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Joel isn't doing doo-wop what about how
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about this one now without Heidi
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princess maker don't know count on oh I
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had a novelty song they change it enough
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and but I mean the name the name is bad
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that's a pond but they change it yeah
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you should never name a song with a punk
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also as I i often council my kids until
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you really know what you're doing
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never make more than one joke at a time
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mhm right so your maker and the joke is
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that it's kind of like a slightly reggae
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well what how will people know this song
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oh yeah lets up and around
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oh but I read the news and it told me
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and that's a look at you that's so good
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but I never heard what I feel like
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locate let me let me ask you this when
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the hollies did long cool woman in a
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black travel oh yeah is then because
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that's not their normal sound absolutely
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i'll all bossy and raise you what about
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a hand heavy he's my brother
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that's not what I mean that's that's
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fine but like to me the stuff that
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nobody knows anymore today I mean you
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get stuff like what the obvious like bus
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stop carrie Ann like any of the like
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truly classic like Holly stuff and but
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also how do you do long cool woman in a
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black dress and the air that i breathe
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the air that is meeting
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the and I mean that's into your cocaine
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rock that's so cocaine e but long cool
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woman it's like such a great rock song
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but you want it to be should be selling
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it should be like a ccr songs yeah
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exactly it's like in a style that that
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is that should be some way somebody else
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right it's like yeah the air that I
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breathe should be a song by uh what was
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the promisee bread bread that's how are
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you thinking of
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no America mm I'm everything is America
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or bread you know how I feel about
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America don't I don't I I feel like
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America's so like if you took the lyrics
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of America
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hmm let's say well here we are we're
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back in the day plants and birds and
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rocks and things a bearing hub America
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are still in Europe there the two
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friends that met it that the American
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School in Paris or whatever however this
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whatever their foundation stories which
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is something like that right they met in
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there were two Americans who were with a
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rich kids they were still they were they
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met in Europe ok and they were it was
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some kind of thing where they were in
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prep school or some there are some
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reason they were both in Europe and they
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met there and then but they were
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Americans and they wrote these songs
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that sounded like Los Angeles
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mhm anyway if I special yeah especially
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a certain canadian that was living in
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which is correct if you could go back if
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you could take me back to them and say
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let uh you guys hey a song sound great
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let me let me take a look at those
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spiral-bound notebooks let me just go
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over these lyrics with you for a second
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right right right anything else just you
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let's just do a quick second pass on his
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lip if you could just give you put me
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there and give me those notebooks and
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just let me comb through them and just
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take out the alligator lizards in the
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they're in the air just let me just
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change that same melody same like in the
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air hook but just let me take alligator
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lizards out and replace it with
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something else that has other words you
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know I mean like I don't want to change
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anything except put other words and and
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every one of their songs has a moment
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like that where you're like I'm
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listening this I'm going through the
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desert on a horse with no name
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yeah it's so good to get out of the
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first thing I met was a fly with a buzz
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and the sky with no clouds the heat was
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hot and the ground was dry but the air
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was full of sound
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mm-hmm let me just take one pass at that
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yeah all right just give me one pass
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you'll get a coffee and come back and
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I'm just gonna work Smith this a little
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bit you know what you're not even gonna
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notice who enter highway and it doesn't
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fucking chance but it's gonna make it is
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going to make no sense in a way that's
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more amusing
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yeah when the days are longer and the
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nights are stronger than moonshine
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mm let me just I just we can just get in
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there just one time just comb through it
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really walk through the metaphors the
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analogy I mean if you really walk
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through it what do you come up with it
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because you don't really go anywhere
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with these right there just think it's
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like saying oh she was as beautiful as a
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pile of paper will be like okay that's I
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guess that's a metaphor but like what
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like it just doesn't go anywhere
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yeah she was as beautiful as a pile of
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paper haha it's exactly yeah thatthat
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you know America you can use that and I
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am I feel like they really I their songs
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are really good i I'll fight anybody
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I'll fight anybody that says sister
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golden hair is a degree that's a good
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tune but you can't give me a bunch of
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a.e I will not stand there and defend
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the lyrics of sister golden hair at all
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i would i would agree with you I if it
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was just if it was just the lyrics I
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would I would I would say out i'm
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definitely i'm not going to fight
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against them in this forget to remember
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come back remember you can do magic you
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can do magic equipment that's America I
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think it's a big comeback circa 283 what
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yeah you know darn well oh I know the
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tune I just didn't realize it was
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America that's America when you cast
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your spell you will get your way when
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you hypnotized with your eyes a heart of
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stone can turn to clay doot-doot-doot of
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stone can turn to clay and if that
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happened metaphorically what would that
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mean it means you're gonna need to see a
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fucking cardiologist really soon
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mmm heart so sister golden hair the
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reason I reference it is it is Oksana
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get so close em right like first the i
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just looked it up here so i can quote ok
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i tried to make it sunday but I got so
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damn depressed that i set my sights on
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monday and i got myself undressed
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I think that's pretty good that's pretty
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good c plus Dylan right there as a
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lyricist honestly like I would like that
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absolutely go it's got a nice structure
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to its gotten in right he got so damn
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president aside somebody I ready for the
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altar but I do agree there's times when
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a woman sure can be a friend of mine
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let's roll that back alright oh and i
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would take another I take another slice
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at it but it's not a Windsor right it's
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a lyric right there
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they're always gonna be lyrics that are
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like but it's not to win see here we go
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into the course well I keep on thinking
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about you sister golden hair surprise
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surprise it's got flow though it does
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but i would just surprised could be a
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lot of things there because he's setting
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it up to say the surprise is only there
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to set up and I just can't live without
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you can't you see it in my eyes that
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rhymes and that's not so bad but
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surprise you gotta wiggle it a little
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that doesn't golden hair surprise that
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isn't good enough
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yeah and here's a this is a great lyric
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i love this layer I've been one poor
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correspondent and I've been to too hard
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to find Lana sounds
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but it doesn't mean you ain't been
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brought my mind line and now all the
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sudden Carl Wilson comes flying in a
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jetpack the shitty shitty chorus will
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you may be in the middle
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will you meet me in the air no we got in
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the middle Whitney in the air will you
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love me just a little just enough to
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show you care
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that's how much you want to be loved
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yeah just like meeting you in the air
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yeah and so that's where the that's
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where the record scratches and you say I
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let you get away with golden hair
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surprise
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yeah but you're that was your Mulligan
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America
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yeah you're not hearing you're not
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meeting her in the air that's not where
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you meet people
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I'm going to co-opt I i look at that
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don't I go I bet the original lyric was
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will you meet me in the middle will you
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meet me in the end I bet that was the
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original because that's what it wants to
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be it was that he will you meet me in
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the middle even God Merlin you're
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absolutely right that's what it should
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we will be just a little just enough to
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help me bend or just enough to not
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pretend oh god you're saving careers can
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be in the middle
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will you meet me me and will you love me
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a little but we're just doing a poor job
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just enough to not pretend we have a
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skype jam in awhile and so so there it
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is you know and that is the song of
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their catalog that has the best lyrics
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it's the it's the best jumping-off point
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and we just saw said this is their
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lonesome death of Hattie Carroll really
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just really just just line after line of
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magnifique well you know you know the
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great story of the new young song what
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we all we all think it says we don't
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think it says the long enough to repay
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it but old enough to sell whatever looks
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cool see I'm always about the yeah yeah
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hmmm I'm not going now man you forgot
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the to repay but young enough to sell
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yeah that's right that's the lyric yeah
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and what it turns out that song
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yeah but it turns out the actual lyric
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is not old enough to repaint which is
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the greatest lyric but old enough to
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repay I always heard repay oh you did
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repaint it would be better it's such a
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good line old enough to repaint and
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young enough to sell boom you just wrote
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the greatest miracle of all time
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haha but he wrote are old enough to
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repay and young enough to sell which is
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like okay alright it's complicated but
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maybe unnecessarily so but that's not
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what you just not just so much not as
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good and you almost wish that the first
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time somebody said oh that's nice old
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enough to repaint that he just then this
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isn't something Neil Young whatever do
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but if he just SAT there for a second
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and nodded and said yeah thanks
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and then immediately set about really
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like crossing off repay and writing
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repaid on everything and just hope
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nobody ever notices got the resources
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you can put out a high bitrate he cannot
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but I feel like he probably heard that
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he probably heard that within a week of
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writing it and I i think that i think
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i've read a thing where he said you're
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right that is a better lyric ice type is
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done this type has famously change
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lyrics because you like other people's
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versions better and that's what I'm
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saying like he heard it he agreed it was
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better but then he did that Neil Young
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like he just chuckled and said oh well
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anyway no moving on to the next song
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gave an African know and and yeah he
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probably said like our kids are boring
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i'm not going to Paris stupid babies
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Heidi to send ago to fucking when we get
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in this know
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