00:00:00 ◼ ► Matthew pans arena welcome welcome back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► thank you sir thanks for having me Wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► to tough week to have a show there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► yeah we was all just is headed there go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► on vacation man yeah it's been like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/14">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► every day so we are recording on tuesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► the 31st so we are literally talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/23">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► quarterly results so we can actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► like a new show it's like we're like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/30">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► breaking news it right at this week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/35">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► yesterday summarizing the quarterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/40">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► I think it's time I my summary is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/46">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► or less iphone went back to growth which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/50">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► was contrary to some predictions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► that that last year's dip was was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/57">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► sign that that we reached pic pki phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► people say he's got more iphones last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/63">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► quarter than they've ever sold in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/65">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► quarter including the two year ago1 when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/67">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► their sales went bananas because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► iphone 6 and 6 plus my ipad sales are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/71">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► down a little bit year-over-year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► they're reasonably saying well last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/80">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► they came out with the brand new iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/82">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► pro this year there were no new ipads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/83">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► respectable 13 million mac sales were up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► rebounding I think showing such good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► signs of probably the the new macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► pro sales being pretty good who Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► watch they don't break those out but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► the conference call it sounded to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► reading the summary that they said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► was a record-breaking quarter and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/107">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► makes sense because it's a holiday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/110">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► quarter and I think that it's if if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► did break those watch sales out i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► the holiday quarter is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► huge spike just like in the old days the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► way ipod tour and then last but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► least services apples favorite word of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/123">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► the last two years is up at a fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/126">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► yeah I think so I mean I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► about that other category in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/133">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► overall other category there was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► was a dipping growth but right that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► like the general consensus is the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► did find in the quarter right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► it's pretty much the only watch doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► anywhere near decent right now so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/148">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► yeah it seems to me like I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► a lot of I mean this is a little off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► topic of apples quarter but it that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/158">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► point with the watch that i'm starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/160">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► to see some serious repeated pessimism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► about Fitbit that fit i think might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/166">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► in today as a company might be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/170">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► yes yeah I think that's pretty clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► from what we've been hearing so far I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► think that there's a significant change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► in direction how you refer to here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► Silicon Valley as a pivot we're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► for them by gathers they they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/186">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► definitely and I don't think anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► really thinks that it's completely about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► the products and i think there's plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/193">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► of quality issues they've had over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► years and they've never been you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► super highly rated as far as durability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► and longevity and quality and they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► couple of like actual real problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► quality but i think it's just a tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► category and they just didn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/208">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► they recruited you know they stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► they stand alone as the only independent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► company that's making fitness trackers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► that that is worth even talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► but it doesn't seem like they got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► over the hump and it's i think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/227">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► particular Apple watch is is doing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/229">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► yeah I mean there's a heavy market in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► this casual market of people who want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/235">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► spend like let's say somewhere around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► two three hundred dollars to track their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► fitness it seems to me like Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► is starting to get real attraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► outside the early adopters you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► market and I i think it's that fits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► yeah aiden is sort of the you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► bought a phone they used to be I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► maybe what 45 years ago you bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► phone make phone calls and maybe write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/261">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► text messages and you got all these apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► with it you know you also the stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► and pretty soon you're not making phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► calls at all your texting everybody with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/269">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► you know messenger or whatever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► think it's the same kind of concept you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► know so people are saying hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/275">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► now the price is getting to where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► don't mind spending tuner box getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► this thing and getting all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/281">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► things with it but it's a great you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► so solid fitness tracker that you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► all these things so yeah have category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► and yes you mentioned a fit you know was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► traveling alone on the backs of that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/292">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► pnl right right so if you break out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► Apple watches a business especially that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► first launched quarter when it launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► I mean that stuff takes ramp time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► know and when it's you're relying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► yourself in your own revenues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► whatever you know venture capital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► obviously you have you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/308">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► yeah you know yeah and i think i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/312">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► come back to this it on another topic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► a bit but I i I'm as guilty of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► well maybe not has anybody but I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► I'm guilty of it and I think others who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► write about technology are seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► guilty of being to show too focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/330">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► the short term and not realizing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/334">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► long some things need to really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/336">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► mainstream acceptance you know like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► smartphones period you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► remember that the what was the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/345">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► goal it was like 10 million iphones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► the first year of sales something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/350">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► that and and there would you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/352">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► made it but it's like if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► that now they sold 78 million phones in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► this last one order and whereas that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► know back when it first came out 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► years ago it was you know we're hoping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► for 10 million in 12 months it it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► a long time you know and a part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► just the simple common sense and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/375">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► other people have written about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/377">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► just there are people like me who will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/378">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► go and buy an iphone on the day it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► out but most people even if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► curious and i still remember it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/386">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► original iphone where like people on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/387">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► street would see me using it and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/389">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► would say right without knowing who I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/391">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► they would just say that iphone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► and they were obviously aware of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► they probably have one now but the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► took years for them to be comfortable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/400">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► say okay i'll get one because I've you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/402">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► know it there's like a comfort factor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► Noah and I think the watches on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► mmm yeah i think so I mean I think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► definitely had it right now it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/413">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► exited that phase for me it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► people see it on my wrist and go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► know like oh my god is an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► what the dude say is oh you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/422">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► thinking like it are used to using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/426">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► tonight which is an interesting way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/427">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► phrase it right and i think that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► partially from the narrative you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► guess you could call it media narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► hmm that the watch isn't all that useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/437">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► long-term that there's initial the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► initial wave of like oh hey a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/443">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► around and then eventually get tired of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/445">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► it and put it away and I definitely know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/447">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► that there are plenty of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► don't wear those anymore whatever right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/449">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► there's gonna be that with any gadget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► doesn't fit either what the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► tried to sell you it was or what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► know whatever their success or failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► and communicating what it was was or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/461">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► your own vision of what how it would fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/463">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► into your life didn't quite match up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/465">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► with how it actually did right and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► think that we've exited that phase and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► now we're in a phase where the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/472">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► that are still wearing it are advocating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/473">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► they're like yes i love it because x y [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/478">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► know right it's not like oh yes i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► it and then like what do you like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► it wow look at all these things and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► thing and that they don't think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► out of that you were into these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/487">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► oh yeah I have all my calendar stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► there like that's enough for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/493">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► or I have you know it's a great fitness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/494">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► tracker you know I go to the gym every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► day all right I cycle or swim or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► know etc etc people are figuring out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► things that work for them and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► it's more about the precise benefits on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/506">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► an individual basis versus the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/509">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► you know bolus of benefits that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► theoretically apply to you you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► i think that that that could be where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► the sustained growth is coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/520">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► versus the initial wave of who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/522">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► I mean we knew this this isn't something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► we needed that to hear from tim cook on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► the conference call today with you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► tell just by going to the apple store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► and trying to buy an Apple watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/533">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► they were backordered foremost last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► square or still are i think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/537">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► know they could make them fast enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► yeah i mean i think initially you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► you never know whether they just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/549">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► know how many to make or what or whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► they didn't know what the right mix was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► additionally there was a lot more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/556">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► buying steel then maybe they thought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► so there was no sin credibly hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► steel ones for a long time but now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► think they're getting the mix figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► out so if they have that makes figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► out that eliminates that and now you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/567">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► yeah they're just having a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► keeping up with in which theoretically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► on the flip side they're keeping up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► it so there are selling as many as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► which is you know not great for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► shareholders or whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/581">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► call it now with iphone sales rebounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/582">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► and actually growing and breaking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► record it did even with that even saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► it to record it's clear it's it's a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/593">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► fractions of a percentage you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► think I think it's 78 million they sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► in 12 years ago that was the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► record was like 74 million phones or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► something like that so the e the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/605">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► year-over-year are over and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► you know common sense would tell you why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► it's because the smartphone is sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► at a saturated product I mean not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► there's no room for growth and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/620">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► certain markets but for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► over the last 10 years we've reached the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► point where almost everybody who might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► get a smartphone has a smartphone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/629">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► well i mean i think it looks like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► was a decline in China but every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► market grew yeah which is that's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/640">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► I mean China is its own Beast you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► it's incredibly difficult to do business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/647">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► there as Apple has found over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/648">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► you know and we only know the public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/650">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► stuff we don't know that many challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/652">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► they come up against with the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/655">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► and everything else that don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► but outside of that every other region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► was growing and I think that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/663">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► think of saturation and replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► cycles and things like that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► that do you think of those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► not eat they're not communicating it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/673">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► communicated fine in there in their vain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► but it's hard to characterize those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/679">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► things and turn them into very human you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► know sentences or or ideas or concepts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/686">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► for people that can help them understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► where the growth is coming from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/692">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► whether sustained growth will come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► because it's like you could say hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► know ever every ex years people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► going to replace their iphone and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► changes based on you know major design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/701">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► changes right sort of major design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► change here the replacement cycle may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► lowered by thirty percent and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► can also go to like you know there's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► people being born so people are turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/712">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► what 12 13 or 14 now that were you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► just born when the iphone came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/719">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► they're getting phone so we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/722">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► into like the first wave of like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► new iphone consumers first-generation my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► phone consumers so there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/730">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► factors it's a very like liquid thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/732">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► and everybody treats it like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► everybody has a phone one at you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/736">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► has won once once that's it but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► apple is looking at growth in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► all of these variables and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/742">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► projections show you know revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► projection guidance wise you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/746">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► like 51 I guess 253 billion something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/748">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► projecting which is not crazy high but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/752">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► not like by any means and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/756">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► that you know I think that they feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► that they've got the growth out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► yeah in those pockets and I think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/761">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► i think a lot of people thought you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► long story short last year for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► iphone sales were down year-over-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/773">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► the success seemingly didn't sell as or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/775">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► didn't sell as well as the six and i say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► that my only hesitation in saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/783">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► is is my presumption that most iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/785">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► sold our the the new you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► top-of-the-line new model and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► you don't know that they don't break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/792">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► down for competitive reasons so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► theory right you know they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/795">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► sold you know the iphone SE could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► secretly be the best selling iphone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► anecdotally it certainly seems that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► doesn't seem the way most people by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► the best 1i think some people saw last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/806">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► year's slight dip and thought you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► whether it was just to be dramatic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► you know make clickbait predictions but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► you know so does the beginning of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► trend as opposed to the counter-argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► was just that it looks like a dip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► because the six was such an outlier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/826">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► terms of their having been so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► pent-up demand for a quote unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/832">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► bigger iphone who and I think this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/834">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► know the numbers they just announced for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► the iphone 7 certainly back that up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/841">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► yeah i think so i think the plus I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/845">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► Tim said on the call that the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/849">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► plus was the highest portion in was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/852">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► higher portion of the mix that fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► yeah so that you know people are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► acclimated to the larger phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► increases their profit margins obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► because the larger phones don't cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► them you know whatever percent learn her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/865">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► increases their asp their average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► selling price which is always a guidance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► point that like analysts love to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/874">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► because it means that for every every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► amount of ounce of effort they put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/879">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► marketing or whatever the case may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/880">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► you know because you get the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► unit that's a higher higher price and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► really cost you roughly the same amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► to sell that as it does anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► you know it's like growing a tall tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► versus a short tree and they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► trees right now so there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► definite like positivity around that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► think I've been seeing that the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► phones are people love them they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► taking them up and they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/906">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► buying more than ever it is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► and you know i think apple is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► good at this stuff but it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/914">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► interesting to see them admit that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► don't that their their estimates were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/918">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► off and it's you know like you said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/920">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► they've admitted that the the mix of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► plus to the non plus 7 even know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► regular iphone 7 they said was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/927">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► best-selling model the plus sold better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/929">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► this year than it has a guest in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► previous two years and write that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/934">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► mix of them you know then versus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/937">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► I makes me wonder in particular if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/940">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► the the camera in particular I it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/944">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► it's got me right i mean yeah sure part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► of it is just getting used to bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/951">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► size for the camera has to drive like X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► percent of it like I'm not I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► pulling out a number let's say thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► percent of the decisions to buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► we're always got the better camera so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► yeah and it seems like something that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► you can see it when you're in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/967">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► like if you go into store and you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► the fence over whether to get an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/972">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► you can tell just by looking without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► different right it's it's double the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► size it looks like it you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/982">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► see that it has like optic that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► previous years that's the plus models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► had the optical image stabilization with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► the starting with the six it was forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► stills only in a success added it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/992">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► video that's a great feature especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/996">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► for video I mean it's it i add it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► almost unbelievable how good some of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► little home family videos come out now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► uh yeah because of image stabilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► on video but you can't see it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► store so it's just a bullet point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► everybody is I think it it you build up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► an immunity to bullet points because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► every time you buy anything whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► you know it everything has bullet point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► yeah here's the features that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► coffee maker has 12 cups you know it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► a large coffee right makes coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► whereas you just look at the back of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► seven plus and you could get the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► that the camera is better on this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► it seems visceral because you just look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► at it I can't help but think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► actually successfully bumped sales of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► this which in turn makes me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► it they may not be done we this might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► just be the start of the bigger more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► expensive iPhone having tangibly better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► camera technology just because it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► seems like it's proof that it can drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► I think you're you're right at there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► two things I think are really driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► this i have a hundred percent agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► the difference could actually you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► the physical difference the way it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► could definitely make a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► but you're right on there in it i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► there will people be people listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► this and they'll laugh and be like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► yeah I do you know people just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► the back of it and going oh yeah this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► one's bigger got a bigger camera thingy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► on and i'm gonna buy that but he I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► people would be shocked especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► people that listen to this show which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► you know this subset of people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► in the world that listen to the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► know how much higher technical savvy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► than average probably do a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► research on products and average you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► know if you were doing a demographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► survey i think that none of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► would be surprising right but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► people underestimate very heavily how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► little research people do when they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► to buy stuff in a store like they'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► to the store to get a phone and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► having looked at a single thing online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► or asked anybody or whatever and they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► just go and they'll just like I want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► best along X or Y personal axis you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► best camera or most storage or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► honestly whatever most recent problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► they had is probably how they pick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► I've seen this myself I used to work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► big-box retail and you know have sold a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► lot of different things over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► but the one of the times i was selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► like digital cameras especially this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► like early in the early digital camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► is very early and you know somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► comes in is looking like a magic against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► sony mavica which one of the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► yeah you would throw those in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► you know they honestly nine times outta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► ten all they want is which one has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► biggest number on the box they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► literally look at the boxes and they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► all this one has 10 that one has eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► and you know well yes but the one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► I mean if you're an honest person you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► know the one that's eight that slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► less is actually better for you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► I don't know it has this swivel thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► and you really need that for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► you're doing but if you don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► that decision is getting made based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► hey that's ten this was aight i'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► the 10 right i have the money that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► fine we'll go and that i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► people make those decisions that way a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► lot more than most people think and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► though apple store employees are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► theoretically better informed than your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► average big-box retailer they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► the time Apple stores are more crowded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► than ever people are making decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► without intervention by an employee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► just asking the employee to set it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► for them and hopefully the employee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► maybe intervenes at some point if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► feel it's the wrong product for them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► tries to switch the something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► so I think that literally the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► difference in the camera could have make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► a real big difference for people because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► of those reasons and it's it seems silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► or obvious or whatever but people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► silly and obvious when they buy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► that's just remove them and vast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► majority of consumers that way and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► think it's also telling how long Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► has stuck with the shot shot on iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► ad campaign you know and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► shelter said it when he was on my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► forget it was last year that the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► time two years ago where I I think name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► drop by the I asked him like dude I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► think it was two years ago because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► think last year would have it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► obvious it would it wasn't too late to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► ask but I just said like it do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► consider apple one of the leading camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► companies in the world and his answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► was the leading camera company in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► world i mean threats totally how he sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► you know it the importance of the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► on the on the phone and I really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► there's no other explanation I can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► of for why this the mix of plus 2 non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► plus would grow up this year because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► of the big complaints about that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► iphone 7 is that it quote unquote looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► just like the iphone 6 and success that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► it's otherwise who cares i just it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► yeah and it's it's a it's a great lever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► to get people to buy that bigger phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► even though they don't want the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► screen you know because people are often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► physically when they hold it you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► I had somebody if I have a7 now but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► use the seven plus special traveling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► so if i had to somebody there homey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► this is big you know if they've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► used one real one but it's a testament [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► to how how driven by camera people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► so to speak and knowing how hard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► camera team at apple had to push to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► this thing even work right that dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► camera thing up which is a fairly it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► really significant technical you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► achievement and it's another company had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► done this I mean Apple you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► took their own horn a lot right but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► another company had done this they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► have to 10 times as much as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► actually a very very very very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► technical problem what they achieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► here and it out of everything in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1372">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► the camera is really the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► that's pushing the processor to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► limits into its absolute peak limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► right now you know I mean you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► game or whatever the case maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► know what the limits are they work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► within those but most games that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► average that people play are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► pushing that hard games is probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► number to category but above that and up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► far above anything else that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► do on their phones or most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► capabilities of the phone which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► pretty well known by now that the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► in that net seven-plus with its dual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► lens and in twin capture and blending of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► the pair of photos and all of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► that it does it really is pushing very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► very hard that a series chip so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► like a leading driver of the power the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► chip power that's in the phone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► that chip does and has done everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► it needs to do for most people for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► very long time you know for several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► yeah and so it's it's driving forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► the processing capability and power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► the phone and I think it's not driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► sales along with it and it's it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► clearly instrumental in the poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► treatment or is you know at like why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► know why did portrait mode and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► dual-mode thing ship this year I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► part of it was I think that the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► engineering just the camera itself took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► a long time I think it's complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► just the the the algorithm of how are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► you going to use these two lenses for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► zooming and and etc etc but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► another part of it too was that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► coincident with the a-series chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► getting fast enough that you can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► on the fly from what I know about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► long it took them to build this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► obviously everybody knows that it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► it shipped the ships of a week later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► right I don't think that was true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► yeah it was it was absolutely necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► for them to actually make it work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► finish it and get it to work and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► doesn't happen if you've been able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► it for a processor generation right let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► you use it you know literally Matthew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► bands are you know where the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► person I knew who had access to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► because you got a pre-release version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► it at least a couple of days ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► the beta coming out and you had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► nice little exclusive on on techcrunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► with with adorable pictures of your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► daughter but they were really want a pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► they chose well because you're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► you've got a background in photography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► so you're not just sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► shooting pictures of here you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► don't know your desk or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► yeah but I think you could I even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► it first came out and they let us use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► the beta there were performance problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► with it that that happens been ironed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► out and now it's just there is a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► it just works you put in portrait mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► the preview is live the phone doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► yeah that stuff is being iterated on as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► we speak like you and I are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► you know I'm sure the camera team is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► still working on updates to that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► right because it's it's a living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► document you know in terms of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► that it performs the edge detection gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► better every iteration and the the blur [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► effect gets more organic and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► natural you know that they're able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► push that processor via optimization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► because obviously the hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► changed right so they are able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► optimize the process is further so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► they're able to do more and more complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► calculations on that but it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► bleeding edge stuff like there no nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► else is pushing this hard and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► were very quick they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► eventually when when we did that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► the review the phone and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► we were very quick to say all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► what this model or that model from some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► other brand has been doing the years at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► yada it's true that other brands have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► done this show blur thing but not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► this way and not to this level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► sophistication and to be honest even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► though some of the results were kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► hinky up front you know what's gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► better because they're dedicated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► making it better and they have they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► this is a primary driver of purchases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► whereas a lot of these other phones it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► was a one-off gimmick to try and sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► phones that quarter and really is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► to get no significant updates in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► future you know and it's it's a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► but nobody else is really driving like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► that Samsung works sort of backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► right from like oh you know what did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► what do we think the market wants this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► let's try to produce that and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► know they're i'm not saying that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► their products are not you know solid or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► you know decent or whatever if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► don't explode but there isn't there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► drive there to get that kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► right because they know that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► thing that people want it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► what they say they want which is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► megapixels or you know sharper images or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► were these crude terms that they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► describe it it's actually they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► their pictures look more like pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1677">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► and that's a really nebulous thing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► you you know you sort of figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► to define that I think there's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► lot of time trying to define that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► yeah I also think it is the clearest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► path that I can think of because I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► imagination of how can the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► continue to get better and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► some little things you know like a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► the true tone color that the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► has that would be great to eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► have it on the iphone to there's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► know but that I can't see the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► quality quality wise getting radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► better so much so that it would that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► everybody's Reuters rumors are rampant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► that the industrial design is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► change and they're going to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► forehead and just sort of go from top to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► bottom left to right edge-to-edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► display and visually that would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► striking if it looks super cool then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► could see that driving sales but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► many do you know after you do that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► whereas the camera can continue to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► better every 12 months maybe not in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► radical way because you run up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► limits of physics but you know and lens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► optics but in a tangible way and that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► you're only if you're on like a two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► three-year upgrade cycle you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► radically better camera every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► upgrade to a new phone back to me could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► continue to drive sales about where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► are right now for the iphone four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► yeah yeah there's there's not much else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► for them to chip away at and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► there will be new opportunities in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► categories that may even involve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► camera you know they are augmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► reality or VR whatever the case but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► far as like the on-device components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► there they're pretty well along towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► a you know diminishing returns right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► yeah i agree Cameras Cameras a primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► driver they're all right let me take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► break here and thank our first sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► a new sponsor very excited about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► company company ministry of supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► ministry of supply makes performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► what does that mean well it was launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► by a bunch of a group of it former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► engineers engineering students from MIT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► and they make fabrics performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► fabrics the type of things that are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► like gym clothes but they use them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► make a dress clothes like stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► they are breathable they are flexible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► they are way more comfortable totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► feel different and even less resist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► they're even more resistant to wrinkles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► should say less resistant more resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► they sent me some samples they sent me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► jacket very nice jacket and a very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► dress shirt the dress shirt is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► really really nice feels great looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► great and even when i took out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► shirt she was like well what is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► know because it just looks a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► different not like in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► weird but just sort of like he's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► nice Sheen to it was very very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► they also sent me some socks just socks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► and they're very comfortable socks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► here's what a is one of the examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► men's future forward dress shirt I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► that's the one they sent me it regulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► your body temperature based on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► surroundings keeps you warmer when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► cold keeps you cooler when it's warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► there dress shots are made out of coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► fibers that whisks wet and absorb odor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► they provide extreme question and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► shockingly comfortable i can vouch for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► that the socks are super comfortable no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► risk they offer free shipping free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► returns and a wonder day no questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► asked return policy so you can buy your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► clothes get your shirt find out it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► slightly wrong sighs maybe you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► have got no one little smaller little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► totally free of 200 days couldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► better go to their website is Ministry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► of supply.com / the talkshow Ministry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► supply.com / the talk show and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► they'll do if you go there is they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► send you a free pair of their moisture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► fifteen dollar value with your first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► purchase and they also have seven retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► stores including bethesda maryland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► Chicago and Atlanta and you can go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► the retail stores if there's one near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► you and just mention the talk show when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► you checkout and you'll get that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► free pair of socks so my thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► Ministry of supply great great sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► love it really really cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► what next on the on a the results front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► ipad maybe ipad sales were 16 million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► last year the same quarter and third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► I don't know what to make it up i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► know i mean i think that i think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► still we're still trying to find the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► replacement cycle and they and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► the what we call it the bottom the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► yeah but where it starts to swing back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► up and people repurchase or steady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► stabilizes anyway yeah i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► mean i think there's two schools of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► thought on this I think you could argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► that you know iPads are built really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► well and they handle you know single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► tasks and it's sort of like you got up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► apple sold a framing hammer to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► to hang pictures right mm so like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► video you go to the hardware store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► there's five kinds of hammer there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► there's a you know picture hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► hammer which comes in a little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► plastic piano bubble pack in its got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► like a few finish nails and the Hammers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► like if you have anything bigger than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► teeny-tiny nail into a plaster or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► whatever it just hit the head falls off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► right and you go all the way up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► scale through all the different hammers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► to a framing hammer framing hammer is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► hammer that like slams in 10 penny nails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► to two-by-fours a two by sixes on a on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► construction lot right the framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► hammer is reinforced its got like a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► Tang thats thats you know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► thoroughly embedded in the head and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► you swing that thing paying you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► goes it's gonna waffle head to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► know the nail got nice and and trunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► down and you can see that you got your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► imprint on that board so you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► nails driven only home and you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► just whale away on that for ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► need that hammer will last year eight so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► apple sold people framing hammers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► they're they're having and picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► frames so you've got you know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► ten-year-old or five year old or heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► even a teenager or adult who uses it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► browse the web and and for a variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► different apps that don't really push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► the capabilities of the ipad in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► significant way and they're like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► why can't i just keep using this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► that framing hammer is nowhere near its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► limits right and i think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► that's one school of thought that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► you doing the ipad significantly over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► built for the tasks that most people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► it for and then the other school i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► is Apple has not done as good a job as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► it could explain to people how much they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► can do with that framing hammer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► they haven't sold as a framing hammer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► and so I think that there's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► some interesting debate to be had there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► i don't even know where I fall you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► on that scale yet i am of two minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► about it but I think those are the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► of arguments that people are having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► about where the ipad is currently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► then on top of that you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► hey we don't know how long it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► before people need to or want to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► an ipad that they don't break right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► know ever since the ipad 2 or three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► whatever you know better i guess you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► yeah so why replace it yeah i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► I feel like up until then it was still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► improving rapidly I mean the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► is the first one that mean you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► Wow to tablet that people might actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► buy but it was super thick it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► have right now and then it got thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► and then it got retina but the ipad 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► that had retina actually got thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► than the ipad 2 that was before it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► it was replaced by apple six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► after it came out which is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► ridiculous in hindsight just shows shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► how far they were pushing themselves to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► get that retina ipad 3 out and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► really feel like it found itself with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► the ipad air where they strike the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► on the sides and it that the a-series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► chips had gotten I'm sorry about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► that that launched Syria again on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► I'm sorry I apologise anybody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► was a theory dingus was activated by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► but at it and I just feel like my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► trajectory of ipad sales weird meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► it you know at one point was like 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► million a quarter and it was sky it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► it was never above the iphone but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► above the iphone at that date since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► launch like the first ipad outsold the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► first iphone the second ipad ipad 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► and you know and then it came down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► earth and my working theory on this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► simply like pretty much what you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► that it's there was this great unfilled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► need Steve Jobs right that there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► this middle territory for something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► an iPad in people's lives and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► nothing like it right the phones were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► too small and laptops are you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► are great for certain things but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► there's their impersonal enough and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► form factor is such that it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► creates this void that the ipad actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► does Phil but then once people got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► especially of the air vintage or later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► there that's it they don't need another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► one until they you know break the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► yeah i mean if you look at it from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► terms of like a ADD Steve introduces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► ipad and says we think people are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► to love this people need this and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► was if you if you subscribe to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► histories of it the ipad was a goal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► the iphone was and everything that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► hit on but if you go to go back to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► and you say you have him walk onstage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► and say we think that this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► be you know in 10 years or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► would what is an out doesn't end so 77 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► this is going to be at that total of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► three hundred million dollar business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► for apple which is about what i pads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► maybe a little more now right people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► would have been like overjoyed great 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► million dollars uh you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► there's really a million units excuse my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► heart three times significantly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► dollars but you know II you you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► the amount total years old and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► these billions of dollars of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► business that the ipad created you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► go hey that's an entire company more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► than an entire company's worth of value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► that you're going to create for apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► and shareholders and whatever else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► that's more than great and it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► because the iphone has been so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► outsized popular and now we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► continues to grow that the ipad looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► poultry in comparison like it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► a real ramp up right now fastest-selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► computer for fastest selling consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► I think maybe they connect beat it for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► time and then it will pass that around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► don't quote me but you know one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► electronics devices of all time and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► just yeah the you can look at those boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► years and you go home and you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► now it's going down or whatever but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► know I ipad still be still sold 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► million of those you know in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► quarter which is crazy and if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► still an enormous business and it it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► Apple's answer to the sub heusen dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► computer market right like let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► admit that the phone is a phone and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► Apple you know its smartphone is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► most important device in the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► industry has ever come up with any even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► Apple I think even as much as Apple new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► with the 10 year ago introduction of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► iphone that they had something special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► I don't think they even Apple itself was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► surprised at just how how useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► smartphone could be and how much we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► would depend on it as are all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► primary device if you just think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► ipad if they called it the mac pad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► instead of ipad and you just counted it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► with mac sales as pc i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► think that's a ridiculous comparison to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► make you know that there are people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► are going to you know to gonna go drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► five hundred dollars on a portable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► computer we're not going to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► macbook because there is no system is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► five-hundred-dollar macbook but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► might get an ipad pro or you know it an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► ipad air or whatever it if you add up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► you know those 13 million ipad sales to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► the max five million sales that's 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► million personal computers that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► whatever price range from ipad 2 to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► know most expensive Mac it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► impressive but i do think that it's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► of goodness i think it's already settled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► into sort of a mac like static number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► how many million they can sell a quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► you know so did the analogy the cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► trucks analogy where the cars a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► lightweight computer and a truck is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► desktop or wherever many people off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► then view the ipad is the car and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► know that's then set the iphone aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► but i think it's interesting to read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► get a little bit and view the iphone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► um you know the iphones your daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► driver right that you name me a day you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► don't touch your iphone possible right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► you lost it you broke it you don't touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► it other than that you touch it every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► that's your car the desktop stays the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► truck right so the question then is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► is the ipad your your utility vehicle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► is it your sports car in other words do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► you like take it out on the weekends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► get work done or do you take it out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► the weekends for fun and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► there's there's whatever the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► whatever side of that he come down on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► think there's definitely a case to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► purpose-driven device that mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► their whole companies built up around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► revel systems and other things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► built up around using the iPads to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► serve functions in the aid large portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► institutional sales right like schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► and other things that use the iPads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► in very specific ways and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► there's did the netbook arena whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► when you remember the netbook error in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► schools when everybody's like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► this by netbooks for the kids and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► things are just so bad whatever so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► garbage yeah garbage garbage it was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► the office it was very funny to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► because I mean my son is now in seventh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► grade but as a thirteen-year-old he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► technology wise because you know when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► first started going to school it was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► I wasn't quite 10 years ago but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► 2008-9 whatever school had a lot of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► don't know if they were called netbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► but you know effectively they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► that's what a lot of the devices they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► had and all the key all kids knew they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► were junk like that because it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► so funny to me because I remember when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► was a kid getting access to any computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► in school was it was it would if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► to just pumped full of dopamine and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► on you know you're right and yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► were ones that were better than others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► and newer than others and there are even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► that some of them some of the classes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► mean it's okay ad-hoc at the school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► elementary school I went to there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► you know some teachers had like a TI 99 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► for a or whatever it was called which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► a total piece of junk I mean it ran on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► the little cassette tape drive but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► loved it it was just so funny to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► see like first graders who thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► you know didn't even want to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► netbooks because they were such piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► jump who write and they can it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► they can tell anybody could tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► everybody could tell and I if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► at the ipad that way when you look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► like hey you know no matter what your I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► mean you know there are some people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► can't afford any computer at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► that's that's you know to be that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► different problem a different discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► to be had right but if you can afford a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► computer the almost nearly the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► computer you could afford either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► subsidized iphone or an unsubsidized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► ipad right and i think that if you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► could look at like chromebox and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► of other things as sort of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► companies efforts to do that to lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► the barrier to get somebody to using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► their computer / using the web in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► Google's case using their services and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► using their connected you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► connected services that that carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► advertising and whatever the case may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► in Apple's kc it's the same thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► like we want people to be into the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► ecosystem so we can teach them about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► good Apple could be for them and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► what you know what an apple computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► feels like versus another computer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► think the kinds a good ambassador that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► way and so if it always exist if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► levels out at some point is we're not we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► haven't seen any leveling out i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► that's the big question marks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► everybody is saying right now as once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► the this the true replacement cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► start to kick in and or you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► finds a way to revitalize it in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► significant way where you know we can a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► new spike that resets the bar and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► it's you know slopes downwards from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► there as everybody adopted the new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► whatever the case may be I think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► will be a point where it eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► levels out and we see what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► business actually is and will be long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► term I think that business will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► be characterized by its ability to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► know give people expanded computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► capabilities at far less price than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► macbook now and that's that's what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► will always be for apple and an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► could preach about you know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► could be for artists and what it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► be for creatives and all this other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► and hopefully the continued to serve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► those people by pushing the capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► of the device but the vast majority of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► sales in the category or not that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► you know there's not 13 million draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► artists buying it for pencils you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► it's just not that's not the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► the the number i pointed out one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► numbers i pointed out it was that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► looking at revenue last year ipad was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► above mac and services by like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► bit for mac and about a billion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► in revenue for the same quarter last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► year and as of this year and announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► the numbers announced today the mac did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► 7.2 billion in revenue and ipad was down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► to 5.5 and services were up from six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► billion to 7.2 billion and again i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► a doom and gloom on ipad but I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► just goes to show how the mix of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► price points that are selling at ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► are Arlo i think that that you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► I think ipad pro is a successful product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► but i think it's going to be most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► successful in years to come as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► trickles down you know the original iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► pro trickle down to the lower price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► points and I think it's clear since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► max like unit sales are just about dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► but the revenue was up quite a bit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► the macbook pros the new ones sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► pretty well for the first quarter and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► don't even think that that would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► weren't even out for the whole quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► right yeah they were in when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► that trickle-down effect I mean look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► the ipad pro especially the larger one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► and how much capability i mean it easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► at on par utility wise at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► week you know computers from wacom that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► were several thousand dollars more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► and frankly worse you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► missile tracking was not nearly what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► is on the ipad and the screen does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► have the color rendition and accuracy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► the ipad pro and you look at all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► and you look as that trickles down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► you're going to see those pro devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► being in giving people access artists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► and other Creators access to those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► capabilities in ways that just were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► even heard of and I think apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:22 ◼ ► get credit for that stuff because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2962">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► want to see you know in the business in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► tech writing world people want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► those results in the new numbers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► it's like Oh every everybody must buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► that ipad pro and really drive up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► sales and price and stuff every quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► whereas if you look at it in the Ark of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► the game where it's like hey worshipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► miss now in in a year it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► really affordable and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► sell a lot more of them or a lot more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► devices that have their capability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► whatever they're going to call them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► yeah and that that arc i think is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► interesting one and it's hard to message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► right because people don't want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► were we're putting this thing out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► not a lot of people are gonna buy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► more people will buy later when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► affordable they want to hear or putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► this thing out the people must buy now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► yeah yeah you know right it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► anything short of an ipad that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► everybody just throw their old ipad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► that garbage and go get in line to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► the new one is somehow failure but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► the only other thing I have from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► results and from the the notes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► conference call that I read was that tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► cook pointed out that Apple pay users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► are up 33 x year-over-year so that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► really gives that's that's a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► year for Apple pay especially since it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► two-and-a-half years old who uh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► again that's the other thing I had in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► notes that is sort of like hey let's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► remember that that getting people to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► something with it 22 like twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► thirteen years hey you're going to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► putting your fingerprint on a phone at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► the register on your cell phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► sounds weird right it's like different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► and it's like I don't know i mean at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► I i know enough about how it works i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► understand it that it's I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► understand that it's actually more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► secure than using a credit card a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► more secure it you know if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► a magnetic swipe but you know people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► always have the the heebie-jeebies about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► putting your credit card into the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► or something like that i mean there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► lot of an awful lot of people who spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► years not buying anything at all on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► web because they didn't feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► can trust it because it was new and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► different and that's just the way humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► are hooked up for the most part that new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► and different is scary and therefore you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► wait so 3x growth in apple-pie guess I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► didn't see the details on where exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► that is like how much of that is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► US how much of it is worldwide expansion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► but i feel it's one of those stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► that in terms of hey Apple hasn't done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► goddamn thing under tim cook that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► that crowd it conveniently overlooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► that it's a really solid Tim Cook Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► yeah BTW user behavior and something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► that has to do with their wallet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► know their bank account for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► it's insanely hard and so it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► encouraging to see things like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► theoretically you know could be big bets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► I mean you know when people had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► inkling that they were going to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► payments you know people saw that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► as a very big business for them and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► think it's still you know it already is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► so somewhat of a business another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► Services category and could be a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► larger business in the future especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► if you know apples able to sell apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► pay through and keep up this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► growth but I mean it's the hurdles you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► have to overcome when you're switching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► over to something like Apple pay are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► crazy you know i mean you got you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► to the counter and you're gonna pay with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► your phone and you're not quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3177">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► where to put it and you're not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► how far away and what part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► credit card so i put it where the credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► card goes to put it over the keypad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► put it over some weird symbol that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► not familiar with to put on this clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► and people are embarrassed didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► to do that if the smaller people behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► them yeah it's still so early ways it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► it's still so early days that usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► like when I go to like a place that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► like I noticed that they've upgraded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► their point-of-sales systems and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► either see the Apple pay logo or I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► that little wifie looking logo that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► means it usually works apple pie usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► works even if they're not officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► Apple pay yet you know that it just has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► contactless you know a NFC payments the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► Clark usually has no idea and I'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► like there will be like how you going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► pay out so I'm gonna try Apple pay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► I mean I've had that happen and it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► not afraid to do it because i know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► know i am NOT embarrassed even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► doesn't work and be you know I am NOT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► embarrassed that I might know more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► how this works than that Clark but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► somebody has to go first and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► here's a funny thing this is true ok i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► forget if I've mentioned something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► show before now but one of the places I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► go that just added a new point of sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► system that that supports Apple pay our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► the the state-run liquor stores here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► in Pennsylvania and there's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► consistently it doesn't work on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► first try every single time I put my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► phone there have my thumb on the sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► and it says card not valid or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► something's not valid used card instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► but if I just sit there and pull lift my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► thumb and press it again it goes ding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► and then I get the payment but how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► people would even think to try that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► did and every time every single time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► you right i just looked at the error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► message and I thought well that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► error message makes no sense so I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► going to try again and I'd you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3298">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► didn't ask the clerk for help or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► anything I just SAT I just move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► phone away moved back and now every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► I do it gets it's the same thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► anything else on your penis penis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► doesn't doesn't translate well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► and others on earnings before my nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► all right I let me take a break then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3316">TS</a>]
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00:56:09 ◼ ► their stuff works on just about any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3369">TS</a>]
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00:56:13 ◼ ► you can play audible stuff so even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► you have like an old ipod that used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► use like to workout at the gym or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► something like that it doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► be like a smartphone you don't need like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► a special app you can just download the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► stuff to your by mac and think it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► to an old ipad or ipod or kindle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► anything like that that can play audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3390">TS</a>]
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00:57:09 ◼ ► it's follow-up from last week's show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► had been Thompson on and I mentioned an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► anecdote from a reader of the show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► was a little nervous bringing it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► because i was like one reader who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► me this email but he convinced me it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► it really seemed like he knew what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► was talking about like it wasn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► like he wasn't just spitting in the wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► but he bought the new LG ultra fine 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► display the one that that Apple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► sort of code developed and it's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► retina standalone display you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► from apple right now is this is LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► models and he was having all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► problems with it and for some reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► occurred to him to try moving it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► did and it turns out that moving it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► from his Wi-Fi router solve the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► and I dimension this on the show with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► well it seems like this is an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► thing Zack hall wrote a story at 9to5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► mac person firsthand story where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► exact same thing happened with him where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► he and in the problem was so bad it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► like actually crashing his macbook he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► has his macbook hooked up to the 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► display and it was like freezing is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► macbook he googled a little bit saw some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► met people other people speculating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► about this hey it's near a Wi-Fi router [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► his was near his Wi-Fi router so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► moved it to a different moved away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► from his desk and in the problems all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► went away and any contacted LG and LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► said yet just don't use an air Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► I mean why would a computer ever be near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► hey it's okay i can't help but think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► especially in a home office it's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► be a frequent a common scenario you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3531">TS</a>]
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00:58:56 ◼ ► anybody who's like lives in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► studio apartment or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► I mean you may not even be able to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► it that far away you know it's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► yeah i mean the just gonna be fine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► guess we know how exactly how closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► the the gist of this display i do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► have 1i have a imac here so I'm not a 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► imax I'm not in the market for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► standalone display but I saw I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► the mini apple stores i saw them at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► apple event that you and I are at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► couple months ago and my impression my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► first-hand impression of just looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3575">TS</a>]
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00:59:38 ◼ ► perspective was too gorgeous display in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► plain-looking case it doesn't it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► an ugly i don't think they're ugly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3588">TS</a>]
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00:59:57 ◼ ► that that is gorgeous you move crazy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► all these excellent and that convenience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► of just being able to plug in USB see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3603">TS</a>]
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01:00:07 ◼ ► really great and but like you said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► collaboration with apple is not on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► enclosure so the chimpanzee the chin 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► yeah and none of the shielding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► tenancy feeling and looking enclosure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► I've also gently shielded and and no i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► not an expert on shielding but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:30 ◼ ► to me like this is this just emblematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3630">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► of why there's a practical reason beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► just wanting to spend more money that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► that a lot of us wish Apple were making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► its own apple-branded 5k displays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► yeah i mean the answers that I got with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► this stuff when I poked around you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► you know you know is it's it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► much as hard as designing an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3657">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► system so why do it and it's late you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► know we're not white doing is it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► not that attitude that I got like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► cares it was more we have so many hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► in the day and this is like designing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► new imac so maybe we shouldn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► this time you know and maybe we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► put our efforts elsewhere and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► you could disagree or agree i'm not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► not a scrap i'm not saying yay or nay to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► their POV but that's the that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► input that i got and that's not through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► official channels or anything so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► not like a PR message is just a matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► of like it's really hard to build that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► especially because of the the throughput [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► you know that you have to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► connect to external displays and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► wanted to do with the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► wanted to do it normally which probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► would have worked close to a Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► router it would have taken them a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► time and money and manpower to achieve I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► guess the money money is not really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► problem it's more the time and manpower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► yeah you know taking something off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► mac's or another department to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► on that or hiring people in training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► them up through apple university and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► blah blah blah to get you know to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► point where they are able to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► those hardware products just they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► felt he couldn't devote the time to it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► it's you know it's hard 1i you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► whether you want to fault them or not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► I don't know and obviously some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► do but for this for which is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► have so much money how can this how can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► they possibly be stretched thin on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► resources and now whether that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► actual emblematic of a problem in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► mindset that they're still at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► executive-level think too much like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► small company smaller company they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► to be free iPhone or whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► I don't know but it's obvious though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► that they are whether they whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► that's reasonable and that's a sign that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► they you know that for Apple to be Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► that you know like maybe the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► argument would be for Apple to be Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► they have to continue to be like a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► company that focuses on a few things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► because that's just how that's how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► the con argument would be you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► just ridiculous that they can't afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► to put an engineering team together to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► do a display but it's it the proof you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► know that whether it should be this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► or not they are there stretch then and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► think that the decision not to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► it is exactly along those lines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► would we do if it's going to take us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► that much effort to do this we we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► that effort somewhere else right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:33 ◼ ► yes and you you could hammer all day on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3813">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► the argument that well they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► able to afford the man hours or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► the case but yeah that's the way came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► down and that's why these decisions were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► made the way they are as far as i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► don't know maybe I'm wrong but hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► think you you reach a point where saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► no becomes less about all we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► going to pursue this new fun thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► we're not going to splinter ourselves in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► ways that make a lot of logical sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► like it's much harder to say no to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► things that makes make a ton of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► than it is to say no to the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► have very obvious faults and flaws and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► and whatever you know i'm in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► unload unknowns in a project can lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► you to say no so many things that say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► where were down this pathway we've spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► a lot of money and whatever those could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► but the ones that make total sense i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► wouldn't have to make an external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► display those are the ones that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► going to take the most heat over those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► are the ones that you're gonna hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► come-to-jesus moment on and say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► not making them for these reasons that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► make a lot of sense to us and that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► can even message or or you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► want to message externally for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► reason if it is simply that they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► they don't have enough people to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► it man you know it's it's hard it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► that's a hard thing to defend but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► they don't have they don't happen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► what are you gonna do like you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► just hire all the random team full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► random people to work on a high-profile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► hardware release because you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► have the same problem as the LG think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► it's gonna have some weird um issue i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► mean this is hard apple works on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► stuff there's always some weird um issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► when they launched something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► because this stuff is difficult and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► so if you're not going to own that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► owned whatever problems you come you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► can't say oh we put our BTW mom it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► right or we put the noobs on it you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► gotta say no I wouldn't be surprised if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► apple doesn't do a standalone display or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► two you know 4k and 5k I i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► don't have any kind of like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► birdie info that yes they're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► I have had little birdie info and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► people have to that that there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:02 ◼ ► apple-branded displays in the works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3962">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► within Apple whether they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► moving forward I have not heard anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► I don't know so I don't have that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► even whisper secret on the show and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► I've heard it but I know that there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► and I i wouldn't be surprised if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► story is I mean what everybody seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► believe right now as Apple is out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► standalone display game period and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► never going to have another one possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► i would not be surprised if the network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► is another standalone display other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► you know treating the imac buying an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► imac just to use as a standalone display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► target display mode which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► ridiculous the idea that you'd buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► computer wouldn't use but it does work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► was also make the question how expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► components of the device so if your 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► display had to be sixty percent as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:59 ◼ ► expensive as a regular imac that's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4019">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► the bubble that seventy percent is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► who the hell's gonna buy it right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► know so I if there's also that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► component costs angle the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► about I wouldn't be surprised though if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► the story is simply and and again on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► this theme of Apple can only do so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► at a time and there's only so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► resources for testing and for even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► stuff like sales and training the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► entire retail staff on and product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► design and stuff like that I wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► surprised if there are still in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► works but it was so clear that it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► gonna be done in time for october twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► sixteen when they needed to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4058">TS</a>]
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01:15:18 ◼ ► look to us for whatever reactions or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► whatever context that they they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4521">TS</a>]
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01:15:53 ◼ ► that you know people accusing us of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► being partisan in one direction or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4555">TS</a>]
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01:15:58 ◼ ► what articles published on the stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4558">TS</a>]
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01:16:23 ◼ ► are not doing it they're not writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4583">TS</a>]
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01:16:55 ◼ ► uses an enormous amount of h-1b workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4615">TS</a>]
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01:17:06 ◼ ► wide variety of other countries that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► don't that aren't here because our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► education system has a lot of loss so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► it's a incredibly remain issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4632">TS</a>]
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01:17:18 ◼ ► of arms depending on how closely they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4638">TS</a>]
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01:18:53 ◼ ► could have been a little bit stronger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4733">TS</a>]
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01:19:35 ◼ ► couple of people that went on the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4775">TS</a>]
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01:19:44 ◼ ► even Tim Cook's was not a public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► statement it was a quote-unquote leaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► publications got it we ended up getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► it you know that of origin of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► then you know debated among various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► journalist age you get this where did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► you get this and we were like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4801">TS</a>]
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01:20:05 ◼ ► it where that where those come from is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► an interesting thing because elite memo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► is essentially we want to say this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► we don't want to make a public statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4812">TS</a>]
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01:20:29 ◼ ► feel and eventually a lot of the CEOs a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4829">TS</a>]
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01:20:37 ◼ ► personal statement about it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4837">TS</a>]
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01:21:26 ◼ ► versus the people who were in it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4886">TS</a>]
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01:21:46 ◼ ► really feel that it is a lot of here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4906">TS</a>]
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01:22:01 ◼ ► these are all things that he feels very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► strongly personally about how much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4923">TS</a>]
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01:22:12 ◼ ► know how closely their views are aligned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4932">TS</a>]
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01:22:18 ◼ ► forth his views and make them transfuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► but it seems very clear that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► attitudes towards immigration and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► towards a variety of other government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► institutions very strongly held by band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► and this rapid application of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► executive order which Republicans were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► so angry that Obama utilized even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► utilize them for less than say Reagan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► someone else you know he it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► ramifications of this very fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► loose application of this these orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► that obviously had far less let's put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► this way weights very clear they had far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► less vetting from the appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► agencies than previous executive orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► right you know from the agents affected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► agencies are agencies responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► their execution so I'm this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► politics thing this is like a logistics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► thing or if you're looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► government as a business which trumpet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► said he does is very interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► this kind of business being conducted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► and what the ramifications of it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► given that we are a weekend and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► it is definitely going to be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► to see how people maintain their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► vigilance that these things are handled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► according to the rule of law and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► according to appropriate procedure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► process because few gives a real thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► you know I mean are fatigued that a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► thing you know he just simply can't keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► mispronounced it i thought one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► was telling you we're in Nunda and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► there's so much good writing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:56 ◼ ► going on it's hard to keep up with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5036">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► of it but one of the most telling things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► i did I actually noted this back in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► campaign i remember this but there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► a couple of you know when it was clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► that the Steve band was going to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► or was so influential his campaign and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► then after the election when he when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► found out that the sky one that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► going to be a top adviser Trump had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► a guest on bannon's radio show to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► this on a podcast and get some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► but band had a show and one of the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► that Trump was on they talked about they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► were talking about immigration and Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► was this is where they differed where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► Trump was arguing more or less that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► wanted to make it easier for when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► universities and become experts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► science or whatever other fields they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► are that it would be better for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:48 ◼ ► country to figure out a way to keep them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5088">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► here with their newly found us educate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► you know expertise than to have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► leave again and band you know you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► you agree with that right abandoned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5097">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► argument was that there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► something to do if it didn't quite say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► was a probability you could tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► where he was going that when two-thirds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► or three-fourths of the CEOs in Silicon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► Valley or from Asia or South Asia you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:11 ◼ ► know that's a problem and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5111">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► I there's no way to avoid it i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► either you think either you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► something and you see like a sundar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► Pichai who was born in India is the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► of one of the most successful companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► in the history of the United States you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► either see that as a great success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:31 ◼ ► I I mean I just there's no common ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5131">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► i see this is that sundar Pichai is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► proof that the system works and that our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► country can be great and the sieve and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► hold it up as a you know like a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► to be so that needs a solution and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► don't know i don't see how ya think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► referred to it as a cultural right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► you know what it refers to our culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► that we have to maintain a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► culture and then the question then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► becomes you mean white culture right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► right like do you mean you mean that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► European people who came over and killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► off the natives like those are the folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► those are the folks that are the best in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► those that's the culture we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:09 ◼ ► maintain and you know i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5169">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► that you have to take that stuff at face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► value and I think that was you you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► read something about this but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► everybody that was saying in any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► Peter teal said this and nobody really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► believed him at the time but it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► in retrospect you know it is in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► a gross miscalculation or gross decembe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► of the truth in that is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► you don't take it literally grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► right did don't take Trump literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► take him at his his intent not his word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► or whatever they you know saying was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► it's become very clear that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► take this stuff literally so if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► at statements like that you go okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► you know if this person's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► policies or whatever are enacted then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► you know the their goal is to create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► safe space for white people in America [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► and then to you know a destroy as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► of the current government establishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► as possible because they view it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► corrupt or unnecessary because these he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► Lannister whatever you'd like to disturb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► his band like to tear down as much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► the gov existing government as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► so you look at things like that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► look at them hey you know I'm I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► intellectually curious about what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► person's views are and you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► this gentleman is coming from and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► you can look at the stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► happened in the last week and you go oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► maybe I should take this as a statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► yeah and I think that that is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► scary proposition I have a theory on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► that from you that and you know it is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► much hope as as a while can't prove it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► but it's certainly what I hope in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► according to polls these is the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► popular incoming president in modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► history meaning in the history of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► the gallup poll and modern polling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► technology and with just about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► previous are in fact not just about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► every previous elected new president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► there is this grace period after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► election where the soon as the elections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► congratulations and the campaigning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► stops there is a groundswell of support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► and their popularity grows they enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► office with an approval rating that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► is higher this was true for Reagan this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► was true for Carter Bill Clinton George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► W Bush George HW Bush it's always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► true and it's not true with Trump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► Trump's popularity and approvals went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5338">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► down between the election and starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► and amazingly this gal approval rating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► went down eight points in his first week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► as president which just doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► I don't know but probably lost everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► who's anybody who's listening it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► trump supporter but I don't I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► lost him a while ago but here's the help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► for someone who's supposed to trump is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► my theory is that Trump had a coalition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► let's say roughly loved every little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► word he said they wanted to lock her up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► they wanted to build a wall they wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► to make Mexico pay for the wall that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► they didn't want they wanted to ban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► Muslims from the country and any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► half where the like the peter thiel type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► and which is why i wrote about it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► is the you can take this guy literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:54 ◼ ► he did he says these things because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5394">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► sound good he's a showman that he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► going to do any of this stuff you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5397">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► it's just think of the vague intent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► know it's you know Till's description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► and it's so funny that he picked up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► the the band the Muslims was that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► yeah he just says that but what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► really means is they're going to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► they're just gonna have a saner smarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► immigration policy well this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► immigration policy is insane and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► not smarter it's poorly written it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► hard to execute I think what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► with Trump's approval is that the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► the only people he's going to be left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► with are the group that wanted him to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► taken literally and that the group who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► didn't want to take it literally and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► just assumed that he wouldn't are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► jumping ship because now they see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► he actually is doing these these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► I mean there's this like a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► there's a couple of accounts on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► can sort of collating regretful truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► hmm who we are expressing their then one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► today that you know hundreds of tweets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► long sort of before-and-after tweets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► first it's like clipping the i'm afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► i don't remember the account right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► but they're clipping the before to meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► you know when they're like all the trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► is going to x and y and you know trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► him and then the before the afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► like he's not gonna do this at all i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► not now i'm not going to healthcare or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► whatever and i think that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► there's a shot in front and that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► there's also like it when people say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► have to see the other side and or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► know cross borders to to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► always seems like it's always one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► having to cross those borders but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► opportunity there to not be like Nelson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► haha and be like look you were fooled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► now let's fix it right and unfortunately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► unfortunately for especially for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► who are very solidly were very slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► Hillary Clinton Clinton supporters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► whatever fixing it is going to end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► with penson power and the worst-case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► scenario is that you know for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► folks is definitely bandhan stays in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► power and implements his true strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► which he laid out very explicitly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► you have to believe he wants those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► things because he's you know in Britain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► and influenced all of the other stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► far that's matched up 141 right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► that's worst-case scenario that buddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► your best-case scenario is pence which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► you know pence does not share liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► values that all right i mean very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► far-right you would consider him one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► the farthest right if it wasn't for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► band Trump conglomerate right so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► it's gonna be a rough for years i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► for anybody well ruff to it maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► this groundswell of of disapproval and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► or you know activity or our activism is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► you get into the midterm elections and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► maybe you know the checks and balances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► are back in place where it's some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► of middle ground is found between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► two halves of the country literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► almost two halves of the voting public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► right now uh you know so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► definitely it at set times like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► where you realize just how important to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► the balance of the force so to speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► those checks and balances are when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► they're not there anymore it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► yep and you know I don't think we're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► the end of it and and in terms of issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► unexpectedly that draw uh you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► industry that we cover into it directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► I mean it's going to be something I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► for example I mean I mean trumpets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► harping about it a year ago with the San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► Bernardino case and apples studied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:54 ◼ ► refusal to to give the FBI you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5634">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► to go down that whole story again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5637">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► you know they didn't want to give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► an OS to unlock the phone in and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► going to be a little different when and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► Trump is the presidents that have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► the candidate and the heats fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► back against it so I'm sure what will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► down that path again but yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► cybersecurity is the next big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► so we'll see alright briefly because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:17 ◼ ► know we've gone over only on he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5657">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► charge so outline one last thing I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► wanted to touch on is that you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► many years now you've been going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► last week you were at sundance in Utah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► so tell me about it tell me what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:33 ◼ ► know you do seems like you really have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5673">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► yes I'm gonna have been going as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► some folks I mean obviously it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► going on for decades but um I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► 13 2012 2013 somewhere in there so for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► few years now I've been going over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► in I like it a lot I mean it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► I like everything about it there's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► go to this town in utah park city which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► is this Sundance's cover salt lake city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► park city and a couple of other small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► venues like Robert Redford's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► students personal screening room and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► some other things had bases and he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► the dude basically just owns this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► town that's really funny but it's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► it's in this snow there's nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► to do but watch movies and eat your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► know your kind of locked in i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► could ski and said I'd never do I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:33 ◼ ► tell myself all over that you know take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5733">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► an afternoon or whatever but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► always seems to be something to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► something to do but you go in there snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► locked in this little town everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► there's is there to see movies there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► like 60 70 movies that play every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► across all the venues you can only see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► three or four of them a day I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► that's if you pack them in and how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► you decide how do you mean what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► do to get like a loser just like I hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5757">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► you get lucky you you get like a pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► and here's a list of all the movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► you just go through and and pick them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► yeah it's different for passholders so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► if your pass holder you buy a package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► which gives you access to certain kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► of tickets and so many tickets a day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► whatever the case right near those past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► holders get some nice perks like to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► to go in and see get seeded first to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► theater and whatnot but I goes press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► because i do cover variety things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► documentary on on the internet you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► the kind of impact of the internet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► showing there so get to interview him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► and and wrote about that for TechCrunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► and so I went in there more stuff there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► is interactive vraa are versus just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► films so when i go i always find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► something to write about for TechCrunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► and it's it's fun to go is pressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► because you get you sign up you get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► press pass your press pass allows you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► see any press screening they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► essentially 14 theater multiplex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► where it runs press P&I screenings all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► day so pressing industry you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► any of those just get in line and go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► and watch those and then you can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► wait list for any movie throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► day and weightlifting is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► they have a little app in you you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► the waitlist thing turns on you hit go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► and it says your number and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► overflow seating which they have between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► 40 and a hundred to two hundred seats on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► every theater assigned to the waitlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► you could possibly get in if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► have a ticket you buy your ticket for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► twenty dollars that each movie ticket is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► twenty dollars and me go and see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► movie that nobody's ever seen so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► kind of a good deal for like local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► residents and folks that don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► ticket packages but for the press you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► sign up you get your app where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5859">TS</a>]
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01:37:48 ◼ ► tickets every day that the press office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5868">TS</a>]
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01:38:00 ◼ ► don't have my stubs in front of me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► count but i think i saw i got there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5882">TS</a>]
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01:38:06 ◼ ► short trip for me and I saw that big 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► well and then a bunch of VR exhibits so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► when you pack it in you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5893">TS</a>]
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01:38:20 ◼ ► journalists usually stay there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► week or even to because it's the runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► two weeks and that second week is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5905">TS</a>]
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01:38:36 ◼ ► movies like the stars of all left to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5916">TS</a>]
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01:38:41 ◼ ► first week every show you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► director or the actors or everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► involved is there you get to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► essentially what the people that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► the movie including down to the grips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► and camera guys or wherever else came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5933">TS</a>]
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01:39:15 ◼ ► mean there's a couple that are non tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► related that I saw was there the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► sick which is Camille Nanjiani he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5959">TS</a>]
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01:39:30 ◼ ► plays one of the programmers very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5970">TS</a>]
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01:39:34 ◼ ► netflix bottom actually so you should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► able to watch it on netflix i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► if they're gonna release it theatrically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► are directly on the fly but netflix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► amazon were big enormous presence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► there they bought a ton of movies from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► there is just like rumblings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:54 ◼ ► netflix is like poking around like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5994">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► are people here and then year after year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► they got to be a more and more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5998">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► presence until this year it was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► know they were there were some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► biggest purchasers at the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► everyone everybody's lips and many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► the movies that premiered there had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► already been pre-purchased by netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► and things like that so it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► are my world was colliding with so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► with Sunday's world at a rapid pace over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► the last several years and it's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► be it has to be from their perspective a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:21 ◼ ► lower-risk way because these are movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6021">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► that are already made you know that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► it you know I don't that you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► look I did you know and and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► subjective miss to it we're obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► whoever it is from netflix is watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► the movie into yeah this is good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► know making a subjective judgment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► this this is a good good movie or a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► enough that we should think about buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► it but then once they do that the risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:41 ◼ ► is so much lower than backing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6041">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► but you know when it's just a screenplay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► and there's so much uncertainty and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► know who are you going to get who can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► you cast is it going to come together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► you know so I got a surprise me at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► price right right and like last every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► time I go to one of them my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6058">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► things to do is when i'm in line I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► talked to people because in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► these are film industry people that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► there i mean their bands to write just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:07 ◼ ► folks that want to see movies but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6067">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► talk to you know academy award-winning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► producers that are just standing in line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► and we just have a discussion right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► because they're waiting to see some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► things and they're like oh yeah here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► it's great or whatever and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► talked with them about their next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► project and about the industry in blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► blah and like I talk to buyers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► and producers and they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► netflix and amazon they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► Cassidy is this a challenge to you is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► like do you view it as like an invasion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:36 ◼ ► or whatever there-there you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6096">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► general the response has been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► positive when they're like hell no for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► us it's like a way to tell a filmmaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► look you can use these people to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► your next movie in other words sell this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► you're not going to bet you know be rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► off of it or whatever you're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► a decent deal because neither whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► amazon amazon netflix are overpaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► right now for movies simply because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► they have the money and be there sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► trying to build momentum but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► also enabling filmmakers to just boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► like sell that and then make another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► movie right like it move on to your next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► project and then allows them to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► body of work and it's just like a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► plug-and-play distributor that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► able to just can't go it's a netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► comes with our corpus of data that says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6142">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► amazon comes with their deep pockets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► says hey we're going to really shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► theatrically like they're different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► playbooks there's not they're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► like bland entities the handle things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► the same way you know they definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► distribute them very differently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► logic new opportunities you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► filmmakers any other movies you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► give a shout out to other than the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6161">TS</a>]
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01:42:45 ◼ ► liked it and Marjorie prime is a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► that stars Jon Hamm geena davis who else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6168">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► a tim robbins isn't it as well so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6180">TS</a>]
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01:43:07 ◼ ► it's directed by this guy named mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► Michael I'm radio I think I'm raida I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► meet my mispronounced aid he directed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6194">TS</a>]
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01:43:18 ◼ ► ethan hawke yesterday back but yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► movie stars lowest smith and louis smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6201">TS</a>]
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01:43:26 ◼ ► seen her you know it you listeners out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6206">TS</a>]
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01:43:37 ◼ ► like she's been in in the biz a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6217">TS</a>]
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01:43:50 ◼ ► blood and all kinds of stuff right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► she played that she plays a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► who is losing her memory either via [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► dementia or Alzheimer's or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► her family and she played this same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► character in a stage play written by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6241">TS</a>]
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01:44:05 ◼ ► screenplay off of and she's played that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► character twice in two runs of that play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► and then he directed this director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► director her in this movie version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6252">TS</a>]
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01:44:16 ◼ ► losing her cognitive ability and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► family purchases her and a i called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► Prime and that prime is there to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► with her and to help her to keep those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► memory pathways active right the helper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuyT7maE/6269">TS</a>]
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