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time is sat let's do this thing shall we
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alright let's do this time is running
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got a ton of time tracking follow-up
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yeah we did it seems like things like
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from the reddit and from various other
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sources of feedback that time tracking
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is a topic a lot of people were
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interested in and a lot of people had a
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bunch of questions about yeah it's not
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surprising because it is it's an
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interesting idea and it's one of the
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things that i think yes we were kind of
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pushing towards that everyone can do Who
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land but it's just depending on how you
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want to do it right and we got a bunch
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of questions
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one of them was students should students
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track that time and I wonder what you
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think about this because i have no idea
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exciting never been more I mean you've
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got to school at some point like yeah
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but it was like it was important you
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know like I I quit when the school that
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important
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IC stopped right after they they talk to
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you how to read and how to tie your
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shoes i was out there which i think is
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what is where the marginal utility of
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school starts to rapidly decline is
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after those two points
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yeah i went to sweep chimneys man was
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I was straight out of a down the coal
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mine their number of students were
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actually asking about about this and i
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would say that if i was in college or
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university now with the level of
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technology that we have now versus when
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I was actually in college university I i
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would totally do some kind of time
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tracking around at the bare minimum
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study hours in the same way that before
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i started barking down this goal of
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trying to time track all of my waking
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hours I used to just keep track of the
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most core important things which was
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primarily writing and podcast recording
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i think the equivalent to that of being
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a student is studying like that is the
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core prime activity that you want to
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record and i would suspect for any
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students who are listening to
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the podcast if they do that they would
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probably have a similar reaction that
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you did last time where you were
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describing on the previous episode if I
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can summarize it like if a feeling of
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relief at realizing that you are not
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actually working all day like every
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waking moment of your life that you just
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have these times that are are punctuated
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and get your brain kind of tricks you
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into feeling like you've been doing a
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thing all day I definitely know that in
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when i was in university there were days
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that I almost certainly felt like oh god
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I've been studying all day but what
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really happened that was probably in the
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library all day which is a very
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different thing from studying all day
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and so I i think that there would
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definitely be real value to be gained
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around a better understanding of how
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much time are you really actually
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studying and if i was a student I would
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I would totally track at least that I
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mean what was the utility either like
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him because I guess with the way that
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we're doing it so we can maximize our
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efficiency for our work would you say
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it's a similar kind of ideas like to
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maximize your study time my my view on
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this is the time tracking is is
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beneficial because it increases my
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awareness of what am i doing with my
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time and I think that is a thing that I
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find valuable in and of itself and it's
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a thing that that seems to me to be much
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more valuable the more time that I'm
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tracking is just simply an awareness of
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exactly how am I really spending my time
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and we only have a limited amount of
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time you know grains of sand passing
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through an hourglass toward the end i
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get is a non-renewable resource and I
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think that this is really helpful in all
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directions of achieving anything and so
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for example a total non-monetary thing
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with them
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I'm doing but I've been working over the
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last couple months to try to increase
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the number of books that i read i like
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I'm not entirely happy looking over my
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books for the last couple years of how
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many books are on there and this is this
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is a case like is that a monetary value
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i mean like sort of related to my work
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but not really not in a directly
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effective way and the time tracking is
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just a case of being mindful of how much
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time i actually spending on that and you
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know i can say like oh here's a bunch of
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time or i was reading here's a bunch
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time when I wasn't reading like we're
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there other other activities that we're
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taking up the time that could have been
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better spent and particularly if you're
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being really honest with the time
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tracking and putting in like wasted time
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in some sense I feel like it's helpful
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in constraining wasted time because it's
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like well if I want all of the days to
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be as full as they can be of time
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tracking like I'm gonna have to put this
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on here of like what am i doing or what
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am I not doing so I feel like it is a
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generally useful mindfulness and like
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self-direction tool in addition to just
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being about like the bottom line and
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trying to increase efficiency
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here's my concern with that like with
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the tracking of everything
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if you are very aware of the worth of
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your time because of the calculations
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that you've done by tracking everything
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don't you run the risk of not spending
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enough time doing things that are
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working don't you just look at those
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reports and be like I spent three hours
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playing video games because you actually
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see what it is and then you like could
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not have been three hours spent trying
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to write a script it isn't there a risk
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in that like I see the number of hours
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on a work every day I don't know how
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many hours i'm awake really so maybe
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it's like the rest of the time like
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sitting and binging on parks and
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recreation isn't a problem for me
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because I don't see it in hard numbers
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this sort of gets the thing that i
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mentioned last time briefly which is I
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have these two categories of like for
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recreation and kind of like intentional
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recreation and like an unintentional
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recreation i'm working on refining a
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bunch of these
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categories over time and what I feel
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like those two categories really are is
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recreation and entertainment time that I
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can purely unadulterated Lee feel good
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about and recreation time where I feel
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like maybe there's something else I
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should be doing and so my view on it is
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like okay this is a this is a helpful
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thing for me to try to move as as much
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of my non-working time into like a
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higher state of enjoyment vs non
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enjoyment and then like that's that's
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what this is but there's if you're doing
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calculations of how much is your time
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worth like well there's there's no way
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that you can possibly be working all day
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every day in a sustainable way and if
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you if you if you think that you are
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mistaken or if you are able to do that
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you are a totally lucky genetic freak
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that you are different from the rest of
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us and like that's that's not what a
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normal person's life is like how do you
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decide how much recreation time you get
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well I mean at the moment I'm i'm still
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in the early phases of this i am not
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making any real intentional decisions
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about how much work versus non-working
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time is is occurring i'm still mostly in
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the recording and just trying to see
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what like is naturally happening over
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time but at least for me and and i would
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suspect for other people who are
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self-employed in extreme ways like you
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are in control over your own schedule
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what I'm more keeping in mind is a
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diminishing returns on the working time
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so that if I'm if I'm working on a thing
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like that let's let's say Mike let's say
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you and I we wanted to record like 10
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podcasts in a single day like okay we
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could do one we could maybe do too but
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probably by the time we get to podcast
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three there's a severe diminishing
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returns in there like you just done
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thank you just you just can't keep going
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at a certain point and
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and I feel like lots of high-intensity
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work if you if you pay attention to your
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mind has a kind of natural point that is
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a diminishing return again in my winter
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review when I was doing a lot a lot of
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like metalwork sort of working on the
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work in thinking through systems and
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setting up the time tracking and doing
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all these other things it wasn't it
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wasn't a question of like how many hours
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of recreation do I get it was coming
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from entirely the opposite perspective
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of i'm doing some high intensity work
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when do I feel like I have kind of run
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out of steam for this and I need to
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shift to a different activity might be
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that going to the gym right or be that
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goofing off and playing video games like
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it's that I feel like it it's coming
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from an opposite question like i would i
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would like to have the work hours in my
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life be maximally effective and and I
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feel like that's the thing that I'm I'm
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trying to pay attention for not
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necessarily aiming for like oh boy into
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my billing rate is X dollars per hour
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let me try to maximize in every possible
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way the sheer number of hours per day
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that work is occurring and and so I
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think with anybody who's doing the time
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tracking like if you're a student
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tracking your time or anything i feel
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like this is one of the big benefits to
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get is like is not just not just a
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record of hours but his sense of the
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effectiveness of those hours and I feel
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like tracking the time forces you to pay
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attention to what were you really doing
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and and that's why I think like the
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studying is a great place to start
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because if I think it forces you to be
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honest if you're running a little timer
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like what I really studying for the last
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15 minutes or was a kind of dancing
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around studying for the last 15 minutes
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and if the latter then it's like okay
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well that doesn't count and sort of
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start again and and try to get in like a
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real solid block of actually doing like
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high-quality work on the thing that
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you're attempting to do
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how's it going for you Mike so I have
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been recording for about I'm in my
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fourth week now so my data is becoming
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more stable i have logged about 84 hours
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of work so far into toggle and I'm
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feeling pretty good about it a lot of
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the assumptions that i made last time
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are holding true about where my time is
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being spent who I'm finding that i could
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probably have maybe four to five hours
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of my time taken away i'm on just the
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basic things that we would want to give
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to an assistant who which I feel like
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lines up with the kind of around 10
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hours a week we wanted to give because
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that person coming initially it would
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take longer to do the stuff that I do
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then me because they will be learning
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ready for coming up with that this makes
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talk to about these things that's good
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this wall will be a good entry in the
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journal who
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video like this is not this I don't
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a while with a bunch of videos some
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of videos for you i would call it out of
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character number of videos but we're
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about what we just over two months which
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year you've had a video every month or
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two months and then when it's been two
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just wondering what's going on is it
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like is you still got a hangover from
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of the things it is not the longest gap
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between real videos but it is it is
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rapidly gaining on the longest gap
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between i consider to be real videos do
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you think it's going to pass it
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yes okay at this point if i had to put
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definitely could not make this back it
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that my next video would come out it's
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like man I would just I would clean
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exists it will be super up saying if you
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be missing out on all of that but you
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know that it has it has been a very long
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this or even like how how much I want to
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very close along this this fine edge of
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hospitalizations that were as serious as
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these things can can possibly be
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she's fine now she's flying just people
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it ended up taking up a blowhard portion
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situation when you're self-employed it's
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it's great on one hand that you can drop
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everything and and focus on what is the
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most important thing at the moment but
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it does also mean that it there's nobody
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yourself are are not working and so this
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this has has definitely been a thing
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which caused some delays there is no
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such thing as compassionately when you
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have no employer yeah that that is true
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way user you can get time off you know
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you know everything's running when
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you're not there and you know you come
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definitely a case of everything kind of
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stops if you are the one person who is
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situation and then not
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horrific Lee sick after the
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this for a while and it's not something
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definitely picked up on a couple of
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those podcasts that we're going out in
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december i did see people saying like he
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in great shape think we had to stop one
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don't even actually really remember but
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it was blank
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there was just the whole it wasn't a big
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ask that's one of these things that's
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really like to talk about this stuff
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private person yet so people don't need
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yeah exactly you feel sometimes not
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always you feel an obligation to be open
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yeah its people care about you
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right well now you got it back up there
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my can disagree with you there
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for anybody who does any work in the
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public space to understand that the
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audience actually doesn't care about you
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there's this big difference between like
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you the person who lives your life and
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the the you that exists in the
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audience's mind through the media that
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you create that was the you I meant
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though it is
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cgpgrey that they care about that's what
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i mean is is the version of yourself
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that they interact with which is not the
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whole person right it's not it's not the
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whole person and it's it's a thing
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that's like if that I've had some
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conversations with some people I try to
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convince the very hard about this works
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like you have to you have to understand
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as a public person that's like like I am
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very aware that when people listen to
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the podcasts they're not listening to
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the podcast because it's me
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people listen to podcast because they
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get some kind of enjoyment or some sort
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of entertainment out of it or some value
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out of it right that's the reason that
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people listen to podcasts and
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it's the same it's the same thing with
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the videos like what why do people
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subscribe to my youtube channel to watch
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my videos is because they derive some
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sort of enjoyment and entertainment out
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of the videos that I produce like and
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cares about comes from and if I feel
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like sometimes talking about personal
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stuff is like blurring the line that
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often the audience doesn't even
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necessarily want to have blurred down
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yeah and and so and so that's why it's
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like while all of this stuff was going
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on I just didn't really want to talk
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about it at all because it's like a much
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more comfortable just like mentioning
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that like a thing has occurred and then
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opposed to saying oh I'm in the middle
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of a terrible thing right now
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alright cuz you know what it's not fun
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to listen to on a podcast but don't need
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to know
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yeah and people don't need to know
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there's nothing they can do school now
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yeah that's why I didn't feel like I
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really want to talk about these things
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but we are mentioning it now ignore
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normally i'm very happy just having
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their be like a big gap between the
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videos like I have I have intentionally
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set up my career in such a way so that
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big gaps between videos are normal
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things like nobody super surprised when
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there's a big gap between cgpgrey videos
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the expectation is there will be a gap
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exactly which is the inverse to most
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exactly yeah always playing with fire
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with that YouTube algorithm with these
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big gaps which i think one day will come
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to bite me in the ass
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hopefully not not today but I do just
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because I feel like there have been some
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times because we are having this like
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meeting and discussing our work where
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in a way that doesn't make it helpful or
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clear to the listener and so I think
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that was one of the things that was also
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happening on the last show about like
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about and so I think that's why we're
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just mentioning it now to to generalize
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that there's there's something to be
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aware of and and to just just really
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which is the guy had this really rough
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time but as as far as these things go i
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it because this is the kind of thing
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this and to be ready for the possibility
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of you having to step away from stuff
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videos come up somewhat randomly because
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them is is not building widgets and
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before one at one of one of by far and
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away the best decisions and probably
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costly as decisions I have ever made was
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to switch the patronage on my youtube
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channel from building monthly to
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building when a video goes out and even
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then not every video only the videos
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that i select I cannot tell you what a
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huge mental relief that was like
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especially during this time and like
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that is a decision that has has paid
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paid if not actual monetary dividends
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like working life dividends because then
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i feel like i am NOT I am NOT taxing the
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people upon which my living depends
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needlessly yeah right because there
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would have been what like two or three
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payments come out right exactly there
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process there's nobody in the script
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definitely an advantage but if you're
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biggest bottleneck and until I bring on
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totally burned out
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schedule that I have set for myself this
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is this is too much and then things i
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mentioned before happened and so that
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the combination of those two things have
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this essentially meant that like I have
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ideas but you just don't have the desire
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like a top five list of like here's the
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next videos that I want to do tons of
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notes on them and and stuff to work on
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them but the difference is like what
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what i think is an interesting
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phenomenon is what what i have come to
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call over my working life a bounce rate
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get up going in like I'm going to go
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write something this is the first thing
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mornings I just I kind of bounced off
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the work
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this is the this is the best word i have
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come up with to describe this phenomenon
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people always talk about something like
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procrastinate
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procrastination of the things i'm doing
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i'm in the office and I want to write
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there like I'm all like I'm all set like
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the routine has gone and just nothing
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happens and for the entirety of of my
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writing life this has always been a
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thing that occurs sometimes and so I
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think of it as like a bounce rate that
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work there is going to be some portion
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of bouncing off of that work like how
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you wanted to do the thing but nothing
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happened was like why because creativity
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is mysterious eh what's going on here
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oh yeah what's going on here it's like
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you're applying your logic to these
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situations little logic
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situations little logic
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of it but what you are calling bounce
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rate people call writers block like you
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are sitting to produce a script and on
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that day maybe that week
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nothing is coming and you're just
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talking it down to this is fine this is
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normal this is how it goes
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people categorize it as writers block I
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think when they feel like the situation
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is dire and are out of their hands but
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you consider it as something which is
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part of the creation process and you're
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fine with it
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that's how i'm reading this situation
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yeah i guess i guess because i think it
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it's out of my hands but not dire at all
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like it's just part of the things like
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it's just part of the process this is
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just maybe the way that you are good at
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detaching emotion from situations like
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that is a a good skill that you have
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mean that you're able to just be like
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this one where other people would maybe
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worry about it more
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maybe you're right maybe you're right
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about that I guess it's also it's also
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think that i am aware of always liked
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comes and goes in various waves
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yeah but a lot of people worry that one
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at one point it's never gonna go right
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that the the block comes and that's it
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right i think that is a fear that people
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have about their work
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yeah but that's why they should
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diversify their business into podcasting
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right this is what if you see what I
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mean no it's like you you see things you
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see things the way that you see things
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and that the exact same thing that
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somebody else sees but they they react
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to it differently
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about this is correct and superior your
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way is rational and not everybody is as
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rational as here
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from other people who do any kind of
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creative work like what like what
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they're like how they internalize it is
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very interesting that I happen to be
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like because of
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because of my line of work I happen to
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be in a position where i can have
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conversations with other successful
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people who do creative work in various
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fields again and you find it interesting
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that almost everybody who does this kind
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of thing has their own way of describing
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what is it that they're doing that's
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like specific to them and I feel like Oh
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even even that must be part of the
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process like it's that it's such a
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strange thing to try to produce any kind
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of creative output that is going to be
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consumed by a large number of people
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that it i think it ends up becoming a
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very internalized process for anybody
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who's doing it and they're like
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everybody has their own like weird
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language or description of how they do
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these things and like I feel like this
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using this word bounce like this is this
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just feels like i was the word in my
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brain that feels like the right thing
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that is like go into the office but sort
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of like bounce out of the office and I
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got nothing occurred
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okay well it's it's like it's like a
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batting average
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you know it's just like well you're
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expecting to do perfect things every
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well you're crazy nobody does that
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nobody you ever have spoken to does that
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it is it's like bizarre beyond
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rationality to expect some kind of
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perfect hit rate every single time
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alright here's the thing right there are
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there are people that work differently
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to you and have different schedules and
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who have i would say maybe luxuries in
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the way that they work which means that
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they have to be creative of but can't
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treat it like this is fine
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the work will come so used two examples
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general person who works and creative
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field for their jobs and in a company
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who so i'll start with me there is off
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joke like an often told joke on the show
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that i love shared Jules who I don't
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necessarily love shows
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but I choose that my business will run
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on one I make the choice because that
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makes more sense to me it's easier to
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plan my shows run on Churchill's all of
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my podcasts they run on charges and that
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makes it easier for me to book
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advertising in a way that uncomfortable
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with it's not necessary but I figure it
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to be for me a more realistic way of
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getting my work done there are times
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when a show is looming and i have no
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idea I have no inspiration who I have no
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topics some weeks there is no news
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who what do you do so I work in a couple
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of different ways sometimes I despair
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because there is nothing and I have
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nothing planned
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sometimes I work in advance in that if I
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am feeling particularly inspired i will
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make notes and I have this for all of my
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shows lots of notes of ideas and planned
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out topics like I have topics that i
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have had planned out for this show in
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outline form for over a year when they
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sit there waiting to even be pulled in a
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time when one of us is inspired to talk
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about that thing or a time when we have
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no other inspiration of any kind of
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drawing us towards something so I have
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these planned out things that are ready
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so for someone like me who goes through
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these problems and but is able to work
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in in the way that i work i will have
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things kind of in the chamber ready to
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be pulled in malaria definitely times
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when i don't and there are times when I
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am lucky in the type of work that I do
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though I can ask our audience what do
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you want to hear me talk about and that
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is a very valuable thing so like that is
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a thing for me or it's like I have
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decided i want to be my work to be on a
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schedule that there is a an expectation
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set by a calendar as to when the work
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will be completed
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tried to use my experience to build the
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business the way that I want right so
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that is that is a difference to you but
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a solution but there is another option
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so like the the third root of this which
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is a person who is creative but for
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somebody else like they they work that
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in a job and they are employed and they
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have to be creative
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what was that person do and then that is
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tricky because i'm very aware of that
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not everybody has the luxuries to choose
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the things that I want to do in the way
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that we do so somebody is burnout they
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haven't taken a vacation in awhile and
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they're being given a thing that they're
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not very passionate about that is a real
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problem right that they have
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expectations put on them and they have
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timelines and they have deadlines and
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they have people that want things in
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some way and they are able to just be
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like now I'm going to wait until it
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comes to me because maybe it's due in a
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week that's tricky right i think it's
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it's terrible the way many professions
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treat creative employees like it's just
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a faucet
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yeah exactly like they're like they're
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in there in the you know they're in a
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factory cranking out widgets all day and
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widgets are a beautiful ideas right that
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are new in the world
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it's like okay well but that's not how
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it works and what well i think is is so
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interesting is how many creative fields
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have a very natural ebb and flow to them
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in TV and movie writing it that is a
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prime example like why do like why do TV
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seasons exist one of the huge reasons is
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you can't have a script writing team
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just working all year right that it is
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like they just can't do it and if you if
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you make them do it you get terrible TV
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at the end of it because it's like
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you're gonna burn out your writers if
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you ask them to write every day for the
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whole rest of the year i think it's i
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find it interesting that like lots of
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creative areas have this kind of ebb and
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flow like it's a very it's a very
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natural thing and
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it is something that i am aware can i am
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the most fortunate person in the world
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in this position but but let's say like
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I am aware that let's just say like a
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lot of people who work on youtube that
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YouTube does not have any kind of ebb
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and flow to it
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everything about the way you tube is
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setup is almost like an employer who
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constantly wants new things produced all
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asking them to just work all of the time
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creators will have to put up a video of
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that I'm like I'm totally trying to
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avoid is like I never want to do that I
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want to do stuff at a sustainable pace
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but that means i can't possibly treat it
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exact right time every time I get it
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treating it very much like all of my
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other work then that I would have a
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schedule that I would here too and it
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you and i am i'm treating this as a
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project but I don't want to just be
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pumping out content i want to make
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things when I have an inspiration to do
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so that's what I'm doing now with my
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with my youtube channel so like I've as
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i have seen that and I something that
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because I'm not comfortable with it just
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because of my working routines let me
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tell us on the mic even if you are very
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different working routines see you're
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working routines are much more like mine
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it is still a deeply uncomfortable thing
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to not have regular output that is that
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is one of the trade-offs for this is you
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aware that there is an audience there
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that wants a thing
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yep it's always it's always going to be
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uncomfortable but obviously I think it's
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a I think it's a very good decision to
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not build in the regular schedule don't
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need another one
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yeah you you don't need another one and
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I mean just in general for anybody who's
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doing the YouTube stuff like this is
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this is one case where I like a deeply
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disagree with YouTube standard advice to
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new creators were like make sure you
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have a schedule and teacher audience
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that you uploaded every tuesday at five
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o'clock right as like I so I say who
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strongly disagree with that as as a
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piece of advice like I don't think it's
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a good idea to upload a video just
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because this is the time where you're
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supposed to upload a video i i i really
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really deeply disagree with that and I'm
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glad to hear that you are also going to
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go down the path of not feeling like
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every sunday at eight is going to be a
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new episode of my curly show i also want
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to offer a couple of pieces of advice
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for people who work in a creative filled
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as part of an organization if you are
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feeling like this level of burnout
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there's one thing you should could try
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you are delivering your work too and try
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and notice from them what they consider
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sometimes try and work just to that like
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have have a real sense for what you know
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if you're turning in something you don't
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think is very good and they seemed okay
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with it
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just pay attention to what that looks
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because later when you need to just turn
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something out who you there might have a
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better understanding for what might fly
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who because a lot of times people that
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are creative are turning in work to
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people that are not created by nature
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blue so you might find depending on
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where you work that people are impressed
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by something you don't find impressive
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that is great advice
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that's great advice if your boss is a
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creative person you might be fucked
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I think this or you might be more
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creative than them huh that is possible
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yeah definitely talk about that is great
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advice for any kind of job anyways like
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be aware of what the acceptable level is
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like that that's your actual target i
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would say that maybe if you're if you
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are creative and you work for creative
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person they may understand more
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that they're more likely to get it and
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then that you might be able to have some
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open conversations with them when you're
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in this type of situation
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another thing that i would just
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recommend is that one of the ways to
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break out a burnout is to change things
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up is to like refocus your mind and if
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you have a project work you can just
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turn something different but that's not
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how it works but what you could do is
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maybe start a new side project or hobby
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that helps get your creative juices
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flowing into something that's less high
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stakes then the work that you supposed
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to be working on and that you can work
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at a time when you're not supposed to be
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working and it might help you kind of
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get back into the creative mode again
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for some lessons
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there's some things that I learned from
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trying to be creative inside of an
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organization that didn't care for
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creativity
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specifically to help you kind of
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breakthrough into making videos again or
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is it now i don't know like we done but
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but what I what I have what I have done
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the break glass in case of emergency
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paper and a pen my favorite I thought
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you might like that
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BSO in in the past week or so I feel
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like okay I'm going into the office I've
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been trying to do work but the bounce
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rate is just unacceptably high and
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trying to do a bunch of different things
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blah blah blah but the thing that works
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for me in the end is essentially giving
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my brain no options in the world except
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to do the thing that I wanted to do I
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productivity and think trying to
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accomplish anything
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it's not about motivation it's not about
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knuckling down working hard
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it's about tricking your brain and
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constraining options and so what I have
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been doing is I have been going to a a
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different and new cafe with just a just
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a pad of a legal paper and a pen and
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literally nothing else except headphones
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connected to a song i can loop on my
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ok brain-e with me we're going to sit
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here and we're going to sit here and we
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cannot leave until you have done two
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hours of writing like I don't care what
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you right brain
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I don't care at all but we're not
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leaving until this happens as I guess
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under these circumstances where there's
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literally nothing else in the world to
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do eventually something will come out
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and say okay I'm just gonna start
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writing a stream-of-consciousness here
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and like this is this all we need to do
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we're just gonna get the hand moving and
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that's it
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resort trick into trying to boot myself
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back into having a a better actually
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writing rate so this is the thing I've
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just this is my ultimate kind of last
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trick is to give the brain no options
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you have to do the thing brain but
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that's all there is
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however there's a thing that like the
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listener might ask which is why don't
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you just do this right from the start
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creative work is being aware like when
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do you need to step back for a little
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while and when i was first to wear like
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my my bounce rate was just way too high
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and i wasn't getting any quality writing
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work done at all
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ok this this is a time not to push it
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like don't don't push it too hard when
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you're not going to get anything out
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like it feels like you can break
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something here when it's just not going
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to happen and so what I did and when I
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this thing where i have spent a very
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work what are my systems around work how
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do i use task management how do i
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organized notes breaking down absolutely
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everything to nothing and starting over
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and spending a lot of the the time that
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I would normally be writing thinking
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very intentionally about how do i work
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what am i working towards doing a very
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intense seasonal review and trying to
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think of how to structure a 20-17 that
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is a great 2017 and also sustainable so
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that's what I've been that's what i've
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been doing and I would love to talk
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about that more but we've been talking
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for a very long time like that we can
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is that what this is i think it might be
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next time on cortex
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