Roderick on the Line

Ep. 235: "Where the Wind Lives"


00:00:00   [Music] [TS]

00:00:03   hello hi John how's it going oh Maury [TS]

00:00:09   rather things are good [TS]

00:00:12   Oh smashing to hear pip-pip gallery as [TS]

00:00:16   how does enjoy one skype calls with [TS]

00:00:19   one's friends and swarming house [TS]

00:00:22   yes lottery dollars corset membership [TS]

00:00:27   has its privileges [TS]

00:00:29   mm-hmm [TS]

00:00:32   so you say mm oh I got some really [TS]

00:00:38   really tiny espresso Boateng is Russell [TS]

00:00:41   tank i love their first three records [TS]

00:00:43   mm-hmm tanki yep yep yep everything's [TS]

00:00:48   going pretty good pretty you pick up [TS]

00:00:50   your books yet little gonna be one of [TS]

00:00:55   those episodes I who knows what it is [TS]

00:00:58   and you know what handling as you say [TS]

00:01:00   what good my shows and everything that's [TS]

00:01:04   in the show is in the show it's [TS]

00:01:06   happening in the show that's how you [TS]

00:01:08   know it's in the show that's precisely [TS]

00:01:11   right receives the moment [TS]

00:01:14   merly murderer man John right three keys [TS]

00:01:21   watching you [TS]

00:01:22   that's in the show that's in the show [TS]

00:01:24   everything in the show it's part of the [TS]

00:01:26   show [TS]

00:01:26   that's how you pointed out the other day [TS]

00:01:28   that every time you look at a picture of [TS]

00:01:30   Halla notes [TS]

00:01:31   Paul is on the left notes on the right [TS]

00:01:35   ah this is true I've chinesse i have [TS]

00:01:38   found a couple candid shots but pretty [TS]

00:01:41   much every this goes all the way back to [TS]

00:01:44   like 73 maybe Paul's going to told me [TS]

00:01:47   this might be it might be a total lot of [TS]

00:01:50   people about this [TS]

00:01:50   yeah but yeah I know it's a it's always [TS]

00:01:53   hall on our left [TS]

00:01:55   yeah hall on our left to call on our [TS]

00:02:00   left but is watching you [TS]

00:02:03   man your Android they're really [TS]

00:02:06   underrated we've gone over this heavily [TS]

00:02:08   oh and you know what we can talk about [TS]

00:02:09   holidays it's like time travel around [TS]

00:02:12   like talking on [TS]

00:02:13   what's going on in your world maritime [TS]

00:02:16   in the woods [TS]

00:02:18   it's been awhile now it's good it's good [TS]

00:02:21   I yeah I got strong feelings [TS]

00:02:26   yeah like a strong feelings about the [TS]

00:02:28   walking dead but I also strong feelings [TS]

00:02:30   about rei let's start with rei because I [TS]

00:02:34   don't know anything about the walking [TS]

00:02:36   dead so no I don't talk about let's not [TS]

00:02:37   talk about time travel [TS]

00:02:39   no no but I want to talk about re I've [TS]

00:02:41   got to see I've got a history with rei [TS]

00:02:43   and it all comes back to this basic [TS]

00:02:45   point i go into that store for article [TS]

00:02:48   of clothing or gear is going to have [TS]

00:02:52   some kind of a fairly specific non [TS]

00:02:55   adventure role in my life he wanted to [TS]

00:03:00   wick away sweat [TS]

00:03:01   well i mean i wouldn't mind that mhm [TS]

00:03:05   they wanted to be lightweight but still [TS]

00:03:07   durable yeah that would be nice [TS]

00:03:10   I i would like it to be a modern [TS]

00:03:12   technical a lot of cases but I think I [TS]

00:03:15   told you the story the first time I [TS]

00:03:16   remember ever buying something at rei I [TS]

00:03:19   went in and it was buying a pair of what [TS]

00:03:21   was then you remember in the late [TS]

00:03:22   nineties there was a vogue for kind of [TS]

00:03:25   like high-tech cargo pants like urban [TS]

00:03:28   outfitter pants that were like a hundred [TS]

00:03:29   fifty dollars and also we were still [TS]

00:03:31   wearing we in the dot com biz we're [TS]

00:03:33   still wearing like a hiking boot toward [TS]

00:03:35   yeah I was kind of a look it's an [TS]

00:03:37   evergreen look and was it that was a [TS]

00:03:40   royal robbins brand paints I've had I [TS]

00:03:43   have a royal robbins shirt from around [TS]

00:03:46   that time that I still where it's been [TS]

00:03:48   very durable and it works and [TS]

00:03:50   lightweight durable lightweight for my [TS]

00:03:53   active lifestyle right works with what [TS]

00:03:55   so anyway anyway I mean this is just as [TS]

00:03:57   she set the tone from rei problem which [TS]

00:03:59   is I must say my problem not yours is [TS]

00:04:01   problem but you never know [TS]

00:04:03   well here's the thing i went in there [TS]

00:04:05   and shop like a dude you know I tend to [TS]

00:04:09   just kinda like I barely stopped moving [TS]

00:04:10   the entire time i'm in the place i put [TS]

00:04:12   on these shoes and then they offer me [TS]

00:04:14   this device that they prefer a role it [TS]

00:04:17   has this little device where you can [TS]

00:04:19   like it emulates rock and what is so it [TS]

00:04:23   looks kind of like an organic [TS]

00:04:26   hasook like almost like the world's [TS]

00:04:28   worst ottoman like if you have the lag [TS]

00:04:30   might that was an ottoman an organic [TS]

00:04:32   have shower organic cast cassocks [TS]

00:04:36   cassock ass off half the Catholic is a [TS]

00:04:39   dancer a Catholic as well as a kind of [TS]

00:04:42   Russian in rhythm is a dancer is that [TS]

00:04:44   right rhythm is gonna move you okay what [TS]

00:04:48   about you can see there's a part of the [TS]

00:04:50   rhythm nation [TS]

00:04:51   I thought I was okay i was until miss [TS]

00:04:54   Jackson said I was nasty [TS]

00:04:55   wow that's right it all comes back to [TS]

00:04:57   early man so they had this I tried them [TS]

00:04:59   on and they're like the guys talking [TS]

00:05:01   about things like torsion control so you [TS]

00:05:03   got to have that and all this in the [TS]

00:05:05   wide foot base and he offered me the [TS]

00:05:09   organic asslick to try to tread upon the [TS]

00:05:12   whole test performance characteristics [TS]

00:05:14   of my new footwear and he said yeah what [TS]

00:05:18   are you gonna wear you be doing this [TS]

00:05:19   I'll never forget i said i was on a long [TS]

00:05:21   lunch break from a dot-com job and I [TS]

00:05:23   said I said we're gonna do it be said [TS]

00:05:25   these are webpage making shoes i was he [TS]

00:05:29   was not mad i mean i think he was maybe [TS]

00:05:33   not exactly disappointed but like I let [TS]

00:05:35   him down because I'm even then I was a [TS]

00:05:39   middle-aged white guy had nothing much [TS]

00:05:40   has changed but I don't think you're [TS]

00:05:41   supposed to tear away the veil as [TS]

00:05:44   abruptly as i did know you're supposed [TS]

00:05:47   to say well you know I do like hiking a [TS]

00:05:49   lot of weekends stop and get out there [TS]

00:05:51   trying to get out and get my tool a box [TS]

00:05:54   and clear my Subaru and I go to the [TS]

00:05:56   front face of the mountain climb and you [TS]

00:06:01   know gets no tell you the dogs drag it [TS]

00:06:04   out there are you know I always try to [TS]

00:06:06   get out there that's why I got super you [TS]

00:06:08   know love is what makes a Subaru a [TS]

00:06:09   Subaru well-loved and yeah Rockets love [TS]

00:06:14   love and and you know what coexist all [TS]

00:06:17   coexist [TS]

00:06:19   yeah Mr exist oh I'm also yeah [TS]

00:06:22   wagging less than barking 10 waiting on [TS]

00:06:25   you like I'm part of the elizabeth [TS]

00:06:28   warren wing of the bumper sticker [TS]

00:06:30   community so so now fast-forward to [TS]

00:06:34   today so we don't go to the mall [TS]

00:06:36   very much but I want to visit some [TS]

00:06:37   friends in corte madera and corte madera [TS]

00:06:39   is where they have to really nice malls [TS]

00:06:42   when we go to court in madera or pass by [TS]

00:06:44   corte madera I make a point of saying to [TS]

00:06:46   my to my ladies I say let's go to the [TS]

00:06:48   mall because one thing they got a [TS]

00:06:49   bookstore got a barnes and noble single [TS]

00:06:51   book start by some books they also know [TS]

00:06:54   what I'm started running on please today [TS]

00:06:56   when you say let's go to the mall you [TS]

00:06:59   already stipulated to really nice malls [TS]

00:07:01   and pull the Madeira yeah look these up [TS]

00:07:04   about you did everyone know which mall [TS]

00:07:07   you're referring to or is everything [TS]

00:07:09   we've got stonestown we've been to [TS]

00:07:11   stonestown you and me that's near us [TS]

00:07:13   that's that's kind of a sad mall and [TS]

00:07:15   it's it's kind of on its way out but [TS]

00:07:17   corte madera so there's two malls [TS]

00:07:19   there's the village at corte madera and [TS]

00:07:24   there is the town's there's the village [TS]

00:07:28   at corte madera and then there's the [TS]

00:07:29   town centre corte madera concern for [TS]

00:07:32   having me a PM no it's not a sentra it's [TS]

00:07:35   not at the atra it's a so in there [TS]

00:07:38   across the highway from each other now [TS]

00:07:41   my friends live like a stone's throw [TS]

00:07:43   from this mall so we go to the mall [TS]

00:07:44   because the barnes and noble and we go i [TS]

00:07:47   go to the rei because i said to my wife [TS]

00:07:49   I says I said I I'm very happy that is [TS]

00:07:52   why I says Wi-Fi I'm very happy with my [TS]

00:07:56   rain jacket that they got me for my [TS]

00:07:57   birthday [TS]

00:07:58   your two ago I love it love it i think [TS]

00:08:01   it's a marmot it's got a liner it's [TS]

00:08:03   really nice it's blue it's everything I [TS]

00:08:05   could want in a jack and i think let's [TS]

00:08:06   be honest I think we bought it at rei [TS]

00:08:08   right it should it sheds rain but it was [TS]

00:08:11   a waste what it's got performance [TS]

00:08:13   characteristics and torsion control so [TS]

00:08:15   now you know flash for this is some 16 [TS]

00:08:17   17 years since my first re-experience [TS]

00:08:20   and I still feel like an utter fucking [TS]

00:08:23   poser because here's me me is I want to [TS]

00:08:26   go in there and I want to get some kind [TS]

00:08:28   of a jacket that's not quite a rain [TS]

00:08:30   jacket I want to be not quite a [TS]

00:08:32   Pendleton shirt I want something that's [TS]

00:08:34   like a jacket that a man would wear and [TS]

00:08:37   not look like he's caused playing some [TS]

00:08:40   role right now I'm not gonna make a big [TS]

00:08:43   deal about this people should do the [TS]

00:08:44   things that they like to do and have [TS]

00:08:45   nothing against cosplay or large [TS]

00:08:47   for fronting the face of the extreme [TS]

00:08:50   mountain sure [TS]

00:08:51   with that said I went in there and I [TS]

00:08:53   looked at every single item they had in [TS]

00:08:55   their jackets section I almost made us [TS]

00:08:57   late for dinner because i was determined [TS]

00:08:58   to find something and we're here [TS]

00:09:01   it wasn't even a money thing it was [TS]

00:09:03   because they're all kind of costly I was [TS]

00:09:04   ready for that but there's gotta be [TS]

00:09:05   something here I could wear where I [TS]

00:09:09   don't look like I take yoga right where [TS]

00:09:11   I don't look like a nothing again I [TS]

00:09:13   think that's the yoga community co-exist [TS]

00:09:15   but I want something that like looks [TS]

00:09:17   like something I would wear and my [TS]

00:09:19   cosplay my default cosplay is to look [TS]

00:09:23   kind of like a lesbian janitor right [TS]

00:09:26   kind of a carhartt Dickie look a lot of [TS]

00:09:28   the time my sanity lesbians have the [TS]

00:09:31   best haircuts ing or less i would cue [TS]

00:09:34   ball pretty good here yet but you don't [TS]

00:09:37   struggling i'm struggling that's a whole [TS]

00:09:39   different issue i'm thinking about my [TS]

00:09:40   friend Alex who is part of the tribe she [TS]

00:09:43   goes to supercuts I'm thinking ago she [TS]

00:09:45   has a great haircut i'm thinking of [TS]

00:09:46   going to supercuts i don't know i don't [TS]

00:09:48   know if i don't know how it's done [TS]

00:09:50   apparently grass you just grows back but [TS]

00:09:53   I've been following I've been following [TS]

00:09:54   this phenomenon the lesbian haircut for [TS]

00:09:56   27 years [TS]

00:09:58   how do i do it what is like a house for [TS]

00:10:00   it what is it up but anyway so there you [TS]

00:10:04   are in your car hardened dickies looking [TS]

00:10:06   for the perfect coat to communicate that [TS]

00:10:09   you are you well to communicate honestly [TS]

00:10:12   it's or the I don't see the opposite of [TS]

00:10:14   what you do but i want to communicate as [TS]

00:10:15   little as possible [TS]

00:10:16   I at this point I want to just not be [TS]

00:10:19   noticed and what I want to do it in a [TS]

00:10:22   way that's comfortable here some of my [TS]

00:10:23   points I would like it to be something [TS]

00:10:24   that doesn't look too much like a rain [TS]

00:10:26   jacket because I got a good rain jacket [TS]

00:10:28   I need something for when it's maybe [TS]

00:10:30   gonna rain but probably not i want to be [TS]

00:10:32   warm but not polar i would like pockets [TS]

00:10:35   i was i would like some pockets on it [TS]

00:10:37   and one velcro closure i like a Velcro [TS]

00:10:41   sleeve dingus [TS]

00:10:43   I don't mind snaps in their little class [TS]

00:10:45   here and i looked at one by a company i [TS]

00:10:47   think it's called i want to say cool [TS]

00:10:49   k uhl I'm not sure he had some nice [TS]

00:10:52   things but they had kind of a yoga [TS]

00:10:54   construction worker vibe [TS]

00:10:56   and a little bit of a of they had a snap [TS]

00:11:00   clasp which ones i say i'm not against [TS]

00:11:01   they also have their own apparently rei [TS]

00:11:04   has their own bespoke brand of super [TS]

00:11:07   fancy it's called after its or something [TS]

00:11:09   like that [TS]

00:11:09   oh yeah and and those jackets are seven [TS]

00:11:12   hundred fifty dollars which is a little [TS]

00:11:13   bit out of my price range plus again [TS]

00:11:17   we're back to the dot-com shoes I feel [TS]

00:11:18   like I cannot live up to this clothing [TS]

00:11:20   so anyway I walked out of there feeling [TS]

00:11:21   kind of sad i went and looked at shirts [TS]

00:11:23   because I can always use another long [TS]

00:11:25   sleeve shirt i ended up buying nothing [TS]

00:11:26   which is ok but but I you know I'm [TS]

00:11:29   frustrated with myself I don't want to [TS]

00:11:30   say I'm frustrated with rei because i'm [TS]

00:11:32   pretty sure everybody goes in there is [TS]

00:11:33   pretty extreme but I feel I feel I have [TS]

00:11:39   trouble finding the clothes that are for [TS]

00:11:41   me and now series you know they're not [TS]

00:11:43   going to carry the Trump stuff anymore [TS]

00:11:45   macy's they're not doing great honey I [TS]

00:11:47   don't know where to turn and I'm trying [TS]

00:11:49   not to just buy things on the internet [TS]

00:11:50   because it seems weird [TS]

00:11:52   well yes that's why am I frustrated with [TS]

00:11:55   the walking dead a little bit and I do [TS]

00:11:56   not find a jacket that's saying to me [TS]

00:11:59   you have you've hit on the thing I'm [TS]

00:12:03   afraid [TS]

00:12:03   Merlin who you did on the real thing and [TS]

00:12:08   this thing is the what I would describe [TS]

00:12:11   as the decline and fall of a outdoor [TS]

00:12:15   gear haha [TS]

00:12:19   we've talked about is fine i think you [TS]

00:12:23   had a part of decline with was there a [TS]

00:12:25   time when you would you bet your life on [TS]

00:12:29   this equipment there was a time when you [TS]

00:12:30   can be hanging from MH we became there [TS]

00:12:34   with your with your with your user [TS]

00:12:36   jagermeister in your pocket dangling off [TS]

00:12:38   a rock somewhere in Germany not even [TS]

00:12:40   sure where we're feel like you're [TS]

00:12:41   wearing borrowed feet and you're hanging [TS]

00:12:43   on by a zipper there was a time hanging [TS]

00:12:46   on by a zipper there was a there was a [TS]

00:12:50   sweet spot right I feel like there's a [TS]

00:12:52   sweet spot when things had things have [TS]

00:12:55   progressed from wool and and wax cotton [TS]

00:13:00   yeah there were new fabrics there were [TS]

00:13:03   knew there was this new kind of science [TS]

00:13:07   that we [TS]

00:13:08   saying like oh we don't have to wear [TS]

00:13:10   keeley hands and rubber every time we go [TS]

00:13:13   out into the rain we can start to wear [TS]

00:13:15   these lighter fabrics that breathe that [TS]

00:13:17   wick away the sweat that have technology [TS]

00:13:20   but those items were still built at the [TS]

00:13:27   built in the fashion and of you know [TS]

00:13:30   like it with the accoutrements of [TS]

00:13:33   earlier coats so what what what it was I [TS]

00:13:38   guess was years and years of time tested [TS]

00:13:41   a apparel design by which i mean like [TS]

00:13:46   the the actual shape of the garment and [TS]

00:13:48   the situation of the pockets the shape [TS]

00:13:51   of the hood who did the use of certain [TS]

00:13:54   kinds of clasp zip heavy zippers you [TS]

00:13:58   know huh [TS]

00:13:59   but we have these new fabrics and it was [TS]

00:14:00   and now you can have a jacket that was [TS]

00:14:02   read holy cow [TS]

00:14:03   yeah and the and the the wicking of [TS]

00:14:06   course being a big thing I keep [TS]

00:14:07   mentioning looking is important [TS]

00:14:09   oh my god Wiccans important then someone [TS]

00:14:12   you want those things like a like a [TS]

00:14:13   microwave where you don't really realize [TS]

00:14:15   how much you need it until you have it [TS]

00:14:16   then you're going how did I ever do [TS]

00:14:17   without waking how did I do [TS]

00:14:19   although i know people that don't have a [TS]

00:14:20   microwave if you can believe that so i [TS]

00:14:22   made my first pee in a cup [TS]

00:14:23   we should come back to that oh you did [TS]

00:14:25   in fact that I'm but now i'm with you [TS]

00:14:28   i'm thinking hear about also and you see [TS]

00:14:31   no i'm not a ski person but I'm thinking [TS]

00:14:33   about when ski gear changed at some [TS]

00:14:36   point i'm guessing the seventies whereas [TS]

00:14:38   like when I was a kid you get bundled up [TS]

00:14:39   to go as we would say play in the snow [TS]

00:14:41   you had all these layers and you look [TS]

00:14:44   like Ralphie's brother and you know [TS]

00:14:45   Christmas story and then they came out [TS]

00:14:47   with these a-z colors in these more [TS]

00:14:49   lightweight garments and but then things [TS]

00:14:54   got very the to use a phrase I learned [TS]

00:14:56   from my wife she refers to her clothes [TS]

00:14:58   she wears to exercise what she does [TS]

00:15:00   every day she calls it technical gear [TS]

00:15:02   yeah that's right technical gear yeah [TS]

00:15:04   there's where that that's where we got [TS]

00:15:06   off the rails think so yeah because [TS]

00:15:08   because as you say it's not just you [TS]

00:15:11   you're not alone in sitting on your [TS]

00:15:13   technical gear and more than writing [TS]

00:15:14   software codes know [TS]

00:15:16   no like one in a thousand people that [TS]

00:15:21   buys a that buys this stuff that's [TS]

00:15:24   advertised with a photograph of someone [TS]

00:15:26   summiting machu picchu there is good to [TS]

00:15:34   say somebody machu picchu yeah they've [TS]

00:15:36   never summit much would be too nope and [TS]

00:15:39   I and never will write what they but [TS]

00:15:42   they but the gear you know it's like it [TS]

00:15:44   like you say because you're you live in [TS]

00:15:46   a climate you're gonna go outside is it [TS]

00:15:48   gonna rain [TS]

00:15:49   I don't know is it gonna you know like [TS]

00:15:51   it could be 60 degrees when i walk out [TS]

00:15:53   the door and by the time i get where I'm [TS]

00:15:55   going to be 40 degrees and like hailing [TS]

00:15:58   and I want something that doesn't that I [TS]

00:16:01   don't like it I don't like it doe mhm [TS]

00:16:04   partly they don't want to look like a [TS]

00:16:05   dope like I get there and I'm not [TS]

00:16:07   prepared you want to be prepared for [TS]

00:16:09   anything even if you're not leaving that [TS]

00:16:10   and it's just everything else in your [TS]

00:16:12   house and they could totally happen this [TS]

00:16:14   is climate is a very complicated she got [TS]

00:16:16   butterfly wings i I'm with you on the [TS]

00:16:18   seattle thing though in the sense that [TS]

00:16:21   what while I think it's sweet that my [TS]

00:16:23   daughter likes an umbrella i do not do [TS]

00:16:24   an umbrella [TS]

00:16:25   no no I'm gonna love above umbrellas I [TS]

00:16:28   got it I got a hood and I got my [TS]

00:16:30   personal will my willpower [TS]

00:16:32   that's right what if you let's say you [TS]

00:16:34   are let's say it's a walking dead [TS]

00:16:35   scenario and all of a sudden your [TS]

00:16:37   zombies everywhere and you've got it [TS]

00:16:39   like I don't know what go walking [TS]

00:16:41   amongst the top walking amongst the dead [TS]

00:16:44   and presumably like hitting them with [TS]

00:16:45   machetes sometimes and you got a [TS]

00:16:47   souped-up truck i'm i'm just i'm [TS]

00:16:49   guessing about this from seeing [TS]

00:16:52   billboards in the New York subway [TS]

00:16:53   yeah you're not you know how far off but [TS]

00:16:55   so you're out there and it's a you're on [TS]

00:16:58   this death trail and I gum guessing [TS]

00:17:00   you've heard rumors that somewhere [TS]

00:17:03   there's a community of people that have [TS]

00:17:05   survived and I want way to present this [TS]

00:17:07   you're headed there right [TS]

00:17:10   meet up with the band it may just be a [TS]

00:17:12   myth this is gonna be the one [TS]

00:17:14   this is going to be the place may just [TS]

00:17:16   be the myth that they're there but then [TS]

00:17:18   you keep you have to keep going because [TS]

00:17:19   what else [TS]

00:17:20   why else can turn back mhm you can't [TS]

00:17:23   just surrender you have to keep fighting [TS]

00:17:25   are you gonna be carrying a fucking [TS]

00:17:26   umbrella [TS]

00:17:28   not unless it's a poison-tipped umbrella [TS]

00:17:30   unless you replace your hands chopped [TS]

00:17:32   off by the guy at the last immunity to [TS]

00:17:34   save your life [TS]

00:17:35   alright so you got your hand chopped off [TS]

00:17:37   but somehow the poison blood of the [TS]

00:17:39   zombies did not infect you yeah you [TS]

00:17:41   haven't turned and now you can now you [TS]

00:17:43   can take the umbrella to your hand and [TS]

00:17:45   you become umbrella man's just like the [TS]

00:17:49   guy the kennedy assassination [TS]

00:17:51   why is he there you may be the zombie is [TS]

00:17:54   coming anyway forget to bring an [TS]

00:17:55   umbrella with a pretty sunny day to me [TS]

00:17:57   haha maybe it's a situation where if you [TS]

00:18:00   get infected with a cold the zombie gets [TS]

00:18:03   right in your face but he can't smell [TS]

00:18:05   you because they only want two kills [TS]

00:18:07   well people em right now that's one just [TS]

00:18:10   you know not to spoil anything but one [TS]

00:18:12   common way to disguise yourself is to [TS]

00:18:14   cover yourself with guts like zombie [TS]

00:18:16   guts and then they have to one of them [TS]

00:18:17   and you can you give some a poncho and [TS]

00:18:19   you put zombie guts on you can walk [TS]

00:18:21   around now you know again that poncho [TS]

00:18:23   you would want something with wicking [TS]

00:18:24   when performance characteristics you [TS]

00:18:27   want machu picchu well and arc'teryx [TS]

00:18:29   actually makes a zombie guts [TS]

00:18:31   terex you know the name of course i do [TS]

00:18:34   so arc'teryx is an rei grand they are a [TS]

00:18:36   comedian super adventure tech brand em [TS]

00:18:39   and they're getting Seattle like John [TS]

00:18:41   Sherlock mm no no flu bug is longtime [TS]

00:18:45   Seattle company arc'teryx eventually [TS]

00:18:47   Canadian people things I know they are [TS]

00:18:49   Jesus Christ check that out [TS]

00:18:51   arc'teryx i think is made in bangladesh [TS]

00:18:54   play and that was utilized for [TS]

00:18:57   Bangladesh's you're gonna want some [TS]

00:18:59   performance characteristics right and [TS]

00:19:01   arc'teryx if you pick up one of those [TS]

00:19:03   jackets that cost seven to 17 hundred [TS]

00:19:05   dollars [TS]

00:19:06   yeah it's like you become lighter the [TS]

00:19:09   jacket is so light that that there's now [TS]

00:19:12   like there's like a bounce in your step [TS]

00:19:14   the the jacket is lifting you up off the [TS]

00:19:16   earth it takes 20 pounds away but i [TS]

00:19:19   cannot i cannot personally paid hundred [TS]

00:19:22   dollars for a technical jacket so I have [TS]

00:19:26   to go I have to longingly paw through [TS]

00:19:28   those things i can't even justify the [TS]

00:19:31   customer patagonia jacket which is only [TS]

00:19:33   four hundred and fifty dollars [TS]

00:19:35   yes to me it's like expensive wine where [TS]

00:19:38   it's lost on me like you know it'sit's [TS]

00:19:41   dropped bits like if i were to spend I [TS]

00:19:43   mean you know you know it's a common [TS]

00:19:44   thing people idiots like me say it's [TS]

00:19:46   like you never seen a twenty dollar [TS]

00:19:47   bottle of wine and a thousand-dollar [TS]

00:19:48   bottle of wine a lot of money but like [TS]

00:19:50   I'm not sure I would appreciate it that [TS]

00:19:53   much more than say a forty dollar bottle [TS]

00:19:54   of wine with my gender dollar jacket I [TS]

00:19:56   go hey this is pretty nice like that [TS]

00:19:57   since two-hundred-dollar jackets that [TS]

00:19:58   are pretty nice right right but but you [TS]

00:20:01   know 7702 seventeen hundred dollars is a [TS]

00:20:04   lot for a particular it is and it's a [TS]

00:20:08   lot for the thing about so i do not [TS]

00:20:10   remember the first time I went to rei [TS]

00:20:12   because i was going to rei when I was a [TS]

00:20:17   little kit because my dad was like a [TS]

00:20:20   very early member of rei and he knew all [TS]

00:20:24   those people personally and like Jim [TS]

00:20:28   Whittaker was I don't they weren't like [TS]

00:20:31   pals but they were high five and white [TS]

00:20:33   guys for sure like we would see jim [TS]

00:20:36   whittaker and there'd be a lot of like [TS]

00:20:37   high-five and joshan and so we were that [TS]

00:20:43   was just they grew up in the rei kind of [TS]

00:20:45   and then in Anchorage the rei was like [TS]

00:20:48   it was almost a social place if you went [TS]

00:20:51   there you were absolutely certain to run [TS]

00:20:54   into one or seven people that you knew [TS]

00:20:56   and you'd stand around to them and [TS]

00:20:59   somebody was there for cross-country ski [TS]

00:21:01   wax and somebody was there because they [TS]

00:21:03   needed you know five new pairs of wool [TS]

00:21:06   socks and somebody was there you know [TS]

00:21:08   and i was there because i needed some [TS]

00:21:10   kind of shoelaces or you know it was [TS]

00:21:12   like where you went to sort of the [TS]

00:21:14   general store and I and all my friends [TS]

00:21:19   that was you know like keep it oh and [TS]

00:21:22   they also have the they also had what [TS]

00:21:24   was at one point called the Attic then [TS]

00:21:26   it was the basement was the Attic again [TS]

00:21:28   and re i had one of those nordstrom [TS]

00:21:31   policies where you could return anything [TS]

00:21:33   tho single-a Stefan clear-cut yeah you [TS]

00:21:37   by somebody would buy a pair of [TS]

00:21:39   rollerblades use them once break their [TS]

00:21:41   arm bringing back was a pair of [TS]

00:21:43   rollerblades that have been used once [TS]

00:21:45   but it was like [TS]

00:21:46   18 that cost so i mean in fact i got my [TS]

00:21:50   first pair of rollerblades there is also [TS]

00:21:54   my life [TS]

00:21:55   ok alright alright it was the one pair [TS]

00:21:57   of rollerblades I brand alright but I [TS]

00:21:59   thought I was an early adopter i got [TS]

00:22:01   these rollerblades pretty early on nice [TS]

00:22:03   and and i enjoyed them but it was but it [TS]

00:22:06   was very definitely a thing where it's [TS]

00:22:08   like oh I am I going to use rollerplate [TS]

00:22:12   yeah no I'm not is what it turned out [TS]

00:22:15   but so anyway but there was absolutely [TS]

00:22:18   was a moment where I started to feel [TS]

00:22:19   alien in an rei and I and it was a [TS]

00:22:23   devastating time because it's been such [TS]

00:22:25   a like it was like I felt like such a [TS]

00:22:28   family operation to a general store [TS]

00:22:30   cooperative it is a co-op at heart right [TS]

00:22:33   yeah [TS]

00:22:34   oh it out and still is you know they [TS]

00:22:35   still send me a check at the end of the [TS]

00:22:37   year around for my small portion of the [TS]

00:22:42   profits and then you take check down to [TS]

00:22:46   rei and spend it on stuff you know you [TS]

00:22:48   get yourself a new headlamp like I have [TS]

00:22:51   40 headlamps in this house because they [TS]

00:22:53   never die and it's a it's like an easy [TS]

00:22:56   christmas present back in back in the [TS]

00:22:58   day like there'd be a bin by the can be [TS]

00:23:01   a bit of them by the cash register and [TS]

00:23:02   you go you don't like a headlamp for [TS]

00:23:04   Christmas John Roderick that's where [TS]

00:23:07   they be in the stockings and I never the [TS]

00:23:09   thing is I never said I've already got a [TS]

00:23:11   headlamp I was always thrilled to get a [TS]

00:23:13   headlamp I should get a headlamp I'm [TS]

00:23:14   like that with flashlights I've spent [TS]

00:23:16   more on flashlights then I should every [TS]

00:23:17   time I see a flashlight that's nicer [TS]

00:23:19   brighter better made the 1i already have [TS]

00:23:22   i'll pick it up and it sits in the did [TS]

00:23:24   the two digit range it's not a always a [TS]

00:23:27   cheap thing but last year for example [TS]

00:23:29   we're trying to find a cat fight back [TS]

00:23:31   behind our house without going shot for [TS]

00:23:33   nothing just it bae that they it's [TS]

00:23:36   called it's called the glide it's got [TS]

00:23:38   its got a nice lumen heavy heavy lumens [TS]

00:23:40   light plus you can slide it open and [TS]

00:23:43   then you get a get a little lamp [TS]

00:23:45   oh sure you and then you can hang it on [TS]

00:23:47   a tree [TS]

00:23:48   sure but your campus they're badass [TS]

00:23:50   magnet on the end so you stick on the [TS]

00:23:51   refrigerator which my wife loves let me [TS]

00:23:53   ask you this cazombi see light at night [TS]

00:23:56   is that a threat or do they go to sleep [TS]

00:23:58   at night or what are the only awaken [TS]

00:24:00   right well no they are awake that there [TS]

00:24:04   are some problems with science without [TS]

00:24:06   you guys here to your townhouse at any [TS]

00:24:09   point and close all the windows like [TS]

00:24:11   yeah the the problem with the walkers is [TS]

00:24:14   that especially when there's large [TS]

00:24:16   numbers of them like they nuttin not [TS]

00:24:19   there's not one of them that's going to [TS]

00:24:20   figure out how to open your fence but [TS]

00:24:22   when there's 1500 of them and they lean [TS]

00:24:24   forward your fence goes down it's not [TS]

00:24:26   that kind of situation will do they here [TS]

00:24:28   and do here dancing and noise and use [TS]

00:24:31   one another's bodies to climb up over [TS]

00:24:32   big walls [TS]

00:24:33   well as far as the dancing they [TS]

00:24:36   definitely respond to sound they have [TS]

00:24:38   used sound as a way to attract or dis [TS]

00:24:41   distract Walker's at various times and [TS]

00:24:45   that's what we can really you can screw [TS]

00:24:46   somebody to play some live music there [TS]

00:24:48   somebody want to get watered pro who [TS]

00:24:51   yeah in your face [TS]

00:24:53   I just walk toward you rules have [TS]

00:24:55   changed my friend the rules have changed [TS]

00:24:56   and you in the great in the in the [TS]

00:25:00   Native American fashion from a herd of [TS]

00:25:03   Walker's off a cliff [TS]

00:25:04   oh let me style well that's that's that [TS]

00:25:08   ends when I don't spoil it for you [TS]

00:25:10   because you're saving these for prison [TS]

00:25:11   and then Shakespeare chicken else after [TS]

00:25:14   i presume i'll be in prison long enough [TS]

00:25:16   to call for water please [TS]

00:25:17   they tried that and you know it seems [TS]

00:25:21   like there's always some smart talk that [TS]

00:25:22   end up screwing things up at one point [TS]

00:25:24   they were trying to like run mall into a [TS]

00:25:25   pit that was you at one point but I took [TS]

00:25:29   your topic be so sorry I for you and [TS]

00:25:32   your family was a person if increasingly [TS]

00:25:34   you felt you felt out of place there I [TS]

00:25:38   felt this strange i would go in at [TS]

00:25:39   wander around and what happened was all [TS]

00:25:42   the all the technical fabrics I think [TS]

00:25:45   aloud al1 also the the pressure to have [TS]

00:25:49   new stuff every season it turned [TS]

00:25:54   adventure gear into this thing that [TS]

00:25:57   wasn't it was no longer in will exploit [TS]

00:26:03   for I best I like what is a novel [TS]

00:26:08   solution [TS]

00:26:09   what's an inexpensive way to manufacture [TS]

00:26:11   this while still maintaining [TS]

00:26:13   the the sort of fun like false front [TS]

00:26:16   that is super durable right its [TS]

00:26:19   technical without being durable it's [TS]

00:26:23   called they want i wanted to blow up on [TS]

00:26:26   you they wanted to be they wanted to [TS]

00:26:28   look like five years ago so you have to [TS]

00:26:31   get a new one and i'm not saying this is [TS]

00:26:33   this is rei generating this from within [TS]

00:26:36   their cooperative heart I think it's [TS]

00:26:38   just the it's just a pandemic of outdoor [TS]

00:26:41   gear and and I'll tell you something I [TS]

00:26:44   heard now this is third hand but i [TS]

00:26:46   remember i had a friend of a friend and [TS]

00:26:49   I heard from a friend of a friend who [TS]

00:26:51   worked at the limited limited the the [TS]

00:26:53   younger girls clothing store that was so [TS]

00:26:55   popular community all things interesting [TS]

00:26:58   yeah interesting uh that you know [TS]

00:27:01   limited at the time anyway famously had [TS]

00:27:03   a very permissive return policy which [TS]

00:27:07   would allow you to bring in pretty much [TS]

00:27:09   anything and exchange it I don't think [TS]

00:27:12   they would give you cash but he would do [TS]

00:27:14   an exchange now there's several [TS]

00:27:15   interesting points here interesting [TS]

00:27:17   point is I mean maybe setting aside the [TS]

00:27:19   esprit stuff stuff that was very [TS]

00:27:20   inexpensive to make and they charge [TS]

00:27:23   quite a markup on it so they there was [TS]

00:27:25   some wiggle room to be able to afford [TS]

00:27:26   exchanges probably good to the wiggle [TS]

00:27:29   that's how they get you but then here [TS]

00:27:31   the other thing is what they discovered [TS]

00:27:32   was turns out people who come in to do [TS]

00:27:34   their free exchange haha put it to the [TS]

00:27:36   man and a bunch of stuff along with it [TS]

00:27:38   haha to the music goes around pretty [TS]

00:27:41   soon everybody's wearing nothing but [TS]

00:27:42   limited you're basically turning limited [TS]

00:27:44   or wearing limited all the time right [TS]

00:27:46   because they can't because yeah right [TS]

00:27:48   there in there in the whole tell your [TS]

00:27:50   underwater as they say I used to take my [TS]

00:27:52   shoes back to the north from and get a [TS]

00:27:57   new pair of shoes and then wear them out [TS]

00:27:58   and then taken back to nordstrom because [TS]

00:27:59   that I was poor and I was you know and I [TS]

00:28:02   still there i was poor but I still felt [TS]

00:28:04   like I shop at nordstrom yeah and I [TS]

00:28:07   brought I finally brought a parent to a [TS]

00:28:09   guy and he was a shoe salesman whose [TS]

00:28:11   about my age and I was like yeah these [TS]

00:28:14   shoes i just feel like my time to take [TS]

00:28:17   him back you know what I'm saying and he [TS]

00:28:19   looked at me was like I think you've [TS]

00:28:21   gotten a lot [TS]

00:28:22   you sound of these shoes don't you [TS]

00:28:23   interested and he shamed me into taking [TS]

00:28:27   those shoes and walk me out the door on [TS]

00:28:30   and I was like oh my god that the the [TS]

00:28:33   salad days are over [TS]

00:28:35   uh-huh he didn't say no he just employed [TS]

00:28:39   something much more effective than no [TS]

00:28:41   yeah you can get you thinking [TS]

00:28:43   yeah he knowed me in a way that I never [TS]

00:28:45   did it again like I don't take anything [TS]

00:28:48   back now if i buy something and it [TS]

00:28:50   doesn't work for me I take it to the [TS]

00:28:52   thrift store [TS]

00:28:53   I let me ask you this if you're going to [TS]

00:28:57   buy a house will have I wonder why I've [TS]

00:28:59   never heard of this before but yeah if I [TS]

00:29:01   were building a giant a McMansion right [TS]

00:29:04   now where i was designing it instead of [TS]

00:29:06   a panic room I would build a wiggle room [TS]

00:29:09   why has nobody done this what has never [TS]

00:29:11   even heard of the idea for a little room [TS]

00:29:13   and I'm fascinated by a build a pumping [TS]

00:29:15   wiggle room and then it first of all it [TS]

00:29:18   gives you wiggle room says it says it [TS]

00:29:20   right there on the 10 right and then who [TS]

00:29:22   doesn't want a room where thats [TS]

00:29:23   expressly the point of it right going [TS]

00:29:26   there wiggle i love this idea [TS]

00:29:29   yeah you got kids like God you kids [TS]

00:29:31   going to wiggle wiggle wiggle room and [TS]

00:29:33   wouldn't have to be that big just has [TS]

00:29:34   been big enough to wiggle in well yeah [TS]

00:29:36   but you want to be you'd want to be big [TS]

00:29:38   enough for four you know if you needed [TS]

00:29:40   wiggle room but also write on friday [TS]

00:29:42   night you and the lady looking for [TS]

00:29:44   something you know looking for a little [TS]

00:29:45   bit of a strange go down to the wiggle [TS]

00:29:47   room [TS]

00:29:47   oh man get your will put the tarp on the [TS]

00:29:50   floor so what I'm saying is why is that [TS]

00:29:53   not why why are people not just in every [TS]

00:29:56   month here but why are you on boards you [TS]

00:29:59   should get more boards you can help so [TS]

00:30:00   many people with these ideas [TS]

00:30:02   I mean you're pioneering this idea you [TS]

00:30:03   want you want to get the monk holes in [TS]

00:30:05   their you want to escape valves get [TS]

00:30:07   secret walls of wiggle room [TS]

00:30:08   I mean this is you this is just money on [TS]

00:30:11   the table [TS]

00:30:12   mommy on the day all so we suggest let [TS]

00:30:18   me suggest a thing to you which is that [TS]

00:30:20   within the sailing community [TS]

00:30:24   which is it so sorry i didn't thing [TS]

00:30:26   where they went from just sort of [TS]

00:30:28   mountain alpine they expanded at 1.2 [TS]

00:30:32   prosumer goods right and this happened [TS]

00:30:36   Eddie Bauer to eddie bauer became more [TS]

00:30:39   and more prosumer until they just [TS]

00:30:41   presumed that way right out of the pro [TS]

00:30:42   and they just became Sumer rei still has [TS]

00:30:47   enough pro you call him prosumer but [TS]

00:30:50   there's a lot of sooner we get in there [TS]

00:30:52   pro but within the sailing community [TS]

00:30:55   which is you know a forgotten side of [TS]

00:30:59   the adventure sport community you know [TS]

00:31:01   that they go on some gnarly adventures [TS]

00:31:03   one might say even getting on a sailboat [TS]

00:31:06   begins an adventure because the cell [TS]

00:31:10   could sink in anytime and then where are [TS]

00:31:11   you [TS]

00:31:12   that's true but if you had a shipping [TS]

00:31:14   container in the middle of the South [TS]

00:31:16   Indian and motion putting idea what are [TS]

00:31:19   you gonna do you're gonna you're gonna [TS]

00:31:20   try and build your boat back but that's [TS]

00:31:22   not gonna work on my ladies from sailing [TS]

00:31:24   people ya say we are very very nautical [TS]

00:31:27   my mom or my brothers-in-law installs [TS]

00:31:31   high-end electronics into high-end [TS]

00:31:33   seacraft so that could be your [TS]

00:31:36   navigation system you know communication [TS]

00:31:38   system often enough let's be honest it's [TS]

00:31:40   an entertainment system but that's what [TS]

00:31:42   he does and he's doing quite well with [TS]

00:31:43   it is very nautical now when I met my [TS]

00:31:45   wife she had was a helly hansen was at [TS]

00:31:47   the name of it [TS]

00:31:48   ya better pronounced helium civilians [TS]

00:31:51   all ok larger see but that's that's also [TS]

00:31:53   how they get you is a secret [TS]

00:31:54   annunciation but she said she had a [TS]

00:31:57   sailing jacket that she had inherited [TS]

00:31:59   from her much-loved not inherited well [TS]

00:32:02   as before he passed away but anyway she [TS]

00:32:03   got her dad's old jacket which is in [TS]

00:32:05   beautiful condition and that was really [TS]

00:32:07   cool as ever let go to giant rain jacket [TS]

00:32:10   and had a little thing we could like [TS]

00:32:11   string a rope through it how cool is [TS]

00:32:13   that [TS]

00:32:14   yep get that you have really learned [TS]

00:32:16   shirt on Mariner is a spoon tailored [TS]

00:32:20   shirt [TS]

00:32:21   yes it is spoon good grab good grab sits [TS]

00:32:24   in that shirt red shirt it was fitted [TS]

00:32:27   fitted shirt fitted shirt they don't [TS]

00:32:30   make them like my dad's old furniture [TS]

00:32:31   nope but so within so sailing is the [TS]

00:32:35   place where I have found [TS]

00:32:37   there is still just take you away it [TS]

00:32:39   takes me but it does sailing takes me [TS]

00:32:44   away [TS]

00:32:44   that's not a firearm paradise at least [TS]

00:32:46   it's not for me and the wind it's listen [TS]

00:32:49   when you see the Southern Cross Merlin [TS]

00:32:51   yeah that's when you know [TS]

00:32:53   yeah about how many times i have right [TS]

00:32:56   yeah how have surprised the roads must a [TS]

00:33:00   man walk down before he is a before he's [TS]

00:33:04   a bad man behind blue yeah before he's [TS]

00:33:08   reluctant to travel because it is a [TS]

00:33:09   violation [TS]

00:33:10   anyway I think about riding fences [TS]

00:33:13   alcohol yeah so you go to you so you put [TS]

00:33:18   in you put into the googs just something [TS]

00:33:22   simple [TS]

00:33:23   ok i'm out like sailing clothes sailing [TS]

00:33:27   ok and you get this you get websites [TS]

00:33:32   like apps limited VIP absolute [TS]

00:33:35   absolutely west coast sailing sailing [TS]

00:33:38   pro shop and then you go in then you [TS]

00:33:41   start looking at jackets in there and [TS]

00:33:43   almost some they're all these brands you [TS]

00:33:44   never heard of you can and you go [TS]

00:33:47   there's other brands that I never heard [TS]

00:33:50   of in what I would consider to be the [TS]

00:33:52   Outdoor Adventure Gear world [TS]

00:33:54   wow there's this this this is these are [TS]

00:33:56   some unusual designs because you're out [TS]

00:33:59   there sailing and you're trying to you [TS]

00:34:01   know when you come into the harbor [TS]

00:34:03   you've got a whole different group of [TS]

00:34:05   people that you're trying to communicate [TS]

00:34:06   with bilo you're gonna rep different [TS]

00:34:10   you're going to wrap a very different [TS]

00:34:11   thing and if you're if you i'm sure [TS]

00:34:13   there are people coming into Harbor in a [TS]

00:34:15   in an arc teryx mhm but the sailors no [TS]

00:34:19   oh you're trying to get trying to get [TS]

00:34:22   away with the double duty here writing [TS]

00:34:24   your work or you recently skiing like I [TS]

00:34:28   wasn't skiing i was just sailing and [TS]

00:34:30   that's why I'm wearing this Gil or Zeke [TS]

00:34:34   or henri lloyd outfit is it a little bit [TS]

00:34:38   like wearing a football jersey to a [TS]

00:34:40   baseball game [TS]

00:34:40   well it depends like how much do you [TS]

00:34:44   want to [TS]

00:34:44   how much do you want to culture jam how [TS]

00:34:46   much are you see if you're not actually [TS]

00:34:48   playing the game [TS]

00:34:49   professionally and kisses that's enough [TS]

00:34:51   that much but in San Francisco you show [TS]

00:34:54   up in a in a jacket that that it is like [TS]

00:34:58   sailing identifying them if you sailing [TS]

00:35:01   identify yeah [TS]

00:35:03   ninety-nine percent of the people out in [TS]

00:35:05   there who are just two are just the [TS]

00:35:07   cotan just writing code yes for [TS]

00:35:10   computers and they're not gonna know the [TS]

00:35:12   difference [TS]

00:35:12   I gotta be honest with you I i said i [TS]

00:35:14   don't recognize I don't read a lot of [TS]

00:35:16   these as nautical where this is cool [TS]

00:35:19   this is one here the Gilo as to ceiling [TS]

00:35:21   jacket looks kinda like the colorful [TS]

00:35:22   character Deadpool there's a lot of you [TS]

00:35:25   get Nantucket shorts i guess that gives [TS]

00:35:27   you like waterproof but but now honestly [TS]

00:35:29   if I saw a lot of this would not [TS]

00:35:31   necessarily read as a sailing gear to me [TS]

00:35:33   right and there's looking just at the [TS]

00:35:36   first pulldown menu [TS]

00:35:38   hmmm you see you see things like shirts [TS]

00:35:41   and rash guards rashguards now I don't [TS]

00:35:44   think I don't think Aria Aria has a [TS]

00:35:46   separate category for rash guards so and [TS]

00:35:49   then over here this is an interesting [TS]

00:35:51   combination sunglasses hats and me pads [TS]

00:35:55   hmm like those are grouped together [TS]

00:35:57   through the sunglasses have to me pants [TS]

00:36:00   just keep the sleepwalking get to wear [TS]

00:36:01   knee pads just FYI wilshire because [TS]

00:36:04   you're in combat mode right and can hang [TS]

00:36:07   on tires [TS]

00:36:08   well you put yeah right you put together [TS]

00:36:10   your own this is one of the great things [TS]

00:36:11   about a post-apocalypse environment you [TS]

00:36:14   get to build your own armor rightly [TS]

00:36:17   that's true you get to build your own [TS]

00:36:19   armor and it's a very it's a very sort [TS]

00:36:21   of mad Mac see armor you're thrown [TS]

00:36:23   together some some bits and bobs yeah it [TS]

00:36:27   could be it could be made out of like [TS]

00:36:28   old cans using a helmet made of a water [TS]

00:36:32   bottle there's things hockey helmet is a [TS]

00:36:35   good one oh my god John [TS]

00:36:37   oh my god john i'm on apps ups lifted [TS]

00:36:39   and it's got a pop-up will live chat [TS]

00:36:41   from mike mike wants to say hello thank [TS]

00:36:43   you for visiting can I help you in any [TS]

00:36:45   way [TS]

00:36:45   oh my kids like he's like paper [TS]

00:36:47   clippings oh my God he's like i fear [TS]

00:36:50   writing a document would you like some [TS]

00:36:51   help [TS]

00:36:52   I see you don't know whether to shit or [TS]

00:36:54   go silent i seed yeah you're writing a [TS]

00:36:57   letter of resignation [TS]

00:36:58   hello i am closing out here because I [TS]

00:37:03   want to talk to Mike and I don't like [TS]

00:37:04   might be in there but no one's gonna [TS]

00:37:08   close the window i'm still find me [TS]

00:37:10   well he's there and he's like well gee [TS]

00:37:12   all I wanted to do was help [TS]

00:37:14   yeah that wasn't me that was kind of [TS]

00:37:16   rude of me well it depends to Bailey did [TS]

00:37:18   you did you allow them to leave cookies [TS]

00:37:20   is my other problems i don't like [TS]

00:37:22   talking about coupons I i had to deal [TS]

00:37:25   with that the mall to but the whole [TS]

00:37:26   separate issue and I just don't want to [TS]

00:37:28   talk to people i don't want to know I [TS]

00:37:29   don't want to know that this coupon is [TS]

00:37:31   good today I don't want I don't want the [TS]

00:37:33   coupon and then we're going to use the [TS]

00:37:34   coupon I don't you talk to me about the [TS]

00:37:36   coupon which you tell me you're gonna [TS]

00:37:37   give me the coupon hang onto because I [TS]

00:37:39   can still use it until februari 14 now [TS]

00:37:41   do you have a barnes and noble [TS]

00:37:42   membership card no I don't I don't [TS]

00:37:43   well you know if we can sign up today [TS]

00:37:45   and you can get a MasterCard oh yeah you [TS]

00:37:47   know I just really what I want to do is [TS]

00:37:48   be anywhere but talking about my coupon [TS]

00:37:50   also a member of any loyalty [TS]

00:37:54   organization [TS]

00:37:55   yes which ones i technically i mean i [TS]

00:37:59   have a safeway number but I don't use it [TS]

00:38:05   much the only 1i use much is walgreens [TS]

00:38:07   because it's on my watch which makes it [TS]

00:38:11   easy to there twice a day there twice a [TS]

00:38:14   day and it and it does sometimes it did [TS]

00:38:17   I frequently when i'm buying something [TS]

00:38:18   there will be something I am purchasing [TS]

00:38:19   at walgreens that is at the rock bottom [TS]

00:38:21   prices but i only get the discount if i [TS]

00:38:23   use my watch [TS]

00:38:24   yep yep and you is it a is it a is a [TS]

00:38:27   bigger is a fob or is it to type in your [TS]

00:38:29   number [TS]

00:38:30   well you can also enter your phone [TS]

00:38:31   number which I'm not don't love doing [TS]

00:38:33   but no you hold your watch up in the [TS]

00:38:35   scan it [TS]

00:38:36   yeah I don't know this game you want to [TS]

00:38:37   John so you'll be anything you want to [TS]

00:38:38   do that you think you want to have a [TS]

00:38:39   watch people scan when you go to [TS]

00:38:41   walgreens if you'd like that some kind [TS]

00:38:42   of bob baum so but you don't have an rei [TS]

00:38:45   number i do I just don't I don't have it [TS]

00:38:48   with me and I'm not gonna make them my [TS]

00:38:50   phone somewhere i think even a fob [TS]

00:38:51   basically okay i can tell you i can take [TS]

00:38:53   a look at my wallet i can tell you i got [TS]

00:38:54   i got us not to be creepy [TS]

00:38:56   I got a San Francisco Zoo card good i [TS]

00:38:59   belong to the zoo you upgrade that every [TS]

00:39:01   year [TS]

00:39:02   yes are we used to belong to the academy [TS]

00:39:05   of sciences but that's super expensive [TS]

00:39:08   how many there you and me yeah we have [TS]

00:39:10   and I've been there now several times [TS]

00:39:11   they have a shark [TS]

00:39:13   they also all have a great aquarium they [TS]

00:39:14   have a an albino alligator they're not [TS]

00:39:17   allowed to take pictures up [TS]

00:39:18   oh uh let's see we used to block that [TS]

00:39:20   will degrade the paint on it over time [TS]

00:39:23   absolutely that's how they get you i've [TS]

00:39:25   also got I've got a library card that i [TS]

00:39:27   use very very frequently good but also [TS]

00:39:30   all i got several I've got several [TS]

00:39:32   sandwich cards [TS]

00:39:34   oh so you get punch cards for some [TS]

00:39:36   calories in one place there's a place in [TS]

00:39:38   my neighborhood where my daughter and I [TS]

00:39:39   go couple three times a week and I've [TS]

00:39:42   got five full cards at this point so I'm [TS]

00:39:44   going to put the place out of business [TS]

00:39:45   at some point [TS]

00:39:46   yeah here you go I'm a party then I [TS]

00:39:50   strongly sandwich with that with crab [TS]

00:39:52   salad on it so there's not a single [TS]

00:39:54   fucking I've this i'm just going to say [TS]

00:39:56   this and that only we don't need to talk [TS]

00:39:57   about it no it's not a single goddamn [TS]

00:39:59   delhi in seattle model not a one [TS]

00:40:03   there are places it is a diaspora John [TS]

00:40:05   have they left wider Delhi's there are [TS]

00:40:07   places that purport to be down as a god [TS]

00:40:10   but whatever the study cute is like [TS]

00:40:12   using mechanic is like a cute like [TS]

00:40:14   DeLeon in like Eric where quotes kind of [TS]

00:40:16   thing and now it's like it's like [TS]

00:40:17   articles it's not cute at all it's like [TS]

00:40:21   real authentic New York City delhi [TS]

00:40:24   telling you walk angry angry tattoos [TS]

00:40:27   guys with the sink stoppers in their [TS]

00:40:29   ears [TS]

00:40:29   yeah we're like this Kelly would do it [TS]

00:40:31   new york-style you go there and you're [TS]

00:40:34   like oh no one here has ever been to New [TS]

00:40:35   York yeah because there is a new york [TS]

00:40:37   style deli it is a wonderful thing and [TS]

00:40:39   this is not it and loving it it's not in [TS]

00:40:42   some simple ways that you could rectify [TS]

00:40:44   in afternoon if you had ever been to New [TS]

00:40:46   York or New at all but your whole foods [TS]

00:40:49   pound-for-pound whole foods probably [TS]

00:40:51   closer to New York Daily than a lot of [TS]

00:40:52   that bullshit [TS]

00:40:53   well I think it's true and you know [TS]

00:40:55   Seattle you have a vibrant jewish [TS]

00:40:56   community lived right in the center of [TS]

00:40:58   town and now the the Orthodox community [TS]

00:41:03   has moved south of town and they but [TS]

00:41:06   somehow inexplicably they have not built [TS]

00:41:09   any Delhi's down there and I think it's [TS]

00:41:12   because Orthodox does something else [TS]

00:41:14   they don't need they don't need to get a [TS]

00:41:17   matzo soup in a neighborhood they just [TS]

00:41:20   do I don't know where they're doing it [TS]

00:41:21   out there his lungs there used to be a [TS]

00:41:24   grocery store qfc ar-ar-ar premier brand [TS]

00:41:28   Ryan I don't qfc with you there was a [TS]

00:41:31   qfc that had a very large kosher section [TS]

00:41:34   but then that qfc closed and the safeway [TS]

00:41:37   picked up the slack and so the safeway [TS]

00:41:40   if there's a safeway that has the that [TS]

00:41:44   has a kosher section but it's also the [TS]

00:41:46   safeway that is that that is the main [TS]

00:41:49   safeway of the hood for lack of a better [TS]

00:41:52   way of putting it and by that I mean [TS]

00:41:54   everyone in the south end which is as [TS]

00:41:57   you know America's most diverse ZIP code [TS]

00:42:00   you live in the most no no don't be [TS]

00:42:02   creepy about it but you live in the most [TS]

00:42:03   diverse ZIP code in understates the [TS]

00:42:06   americas most diverse ZIP codes so this [TS]

00:42:09   seat is trying to be everything it's [TS]

00:42:12   trying to be all things to all right and [TS]

00:42:14   so you walk in and there's like 100 over [TS]

00:42:16   here you got a Jewish deli over here [TS]

00:42:18   they are no soup [TS]

00:42:19   there's like a big I'll me not me [TS]

00:42:22   there's a big pile that appear to just [TS]

00:42:24   be menudo there's a bit like I don't [TS]

00:42:27   know how you can have as many minutos as [TS]

00:42:29   can be in a whole island at our safeway [TS]

00:42:32   there is there's something like a deli [TS]

00:42:36   which is mainly it's basically a step [TS]

00:42:37   above a 7-eleven hot bar it's just [TS]

00:42:39   basically uniformly golden brown food [TS]

00:42:41   you know foods and like and like salads [TS]

00:42:43   from a 5-gallon drum and frozen seafood [TS]

00:42:46   fuck that are I'll we've been out here i [TS]

00:42:48   believe it's called international oh [TS]

00:42:50   really so there's there's everything you [TS]

00:42:53   need to know about America today but [TS]

00:42:55   they didn't say foreign but the internet [TS]

00:42:58   if you want something if you like if you [TS]

00:43:00   are from anywhere in the continent of [TS]

00:43:03   asia here 11 feet that might interest [TS]

00:43:06   yeah or with a world where your pace [TS]

00:43:11   picante sauce [TS]

00:43:12   Oh international sit with the rideau [TS]

00:43:16   yeah I do not be so I have a I have a [TS]

00:43:22   couple of so I have a little bit of a [TS]

00:43:24   advantage here because I'm joins every [TS]

00:43:27   program [TS]

00:43:28   every loyalty program oh ok [TS]

00:43:31   there they are all coded into her phone [TS]

00:43:34   number which i happen to know [TS]

00:43:36   Oh beep boop right so if somebody's like [TS]

00:43:38   oh you want to buy cupcakes these are [TS]

00:43:40   ninety-nine percent off but only if you [TS]

00:43:44   have a loyalty card I bee-boop her [TS]

00:43:46   you're also doing a little bit of [TS]

00:43:47   culture jamming I like this bandage if [TS]

00:43:49   there's any benefit to a crew she can [TS]

00:43:52   accrue it right you can use those points [TS]

00:43:54   i was i'm i'm paying in I mean you know [TS]

00:43:57   like I'm giving back but I don't have to [TS]

00:44:00   deal with it now i don't know if you [TS]

00:44:03   know i don't know if you know the great [TS]

00:44:05   Dan Savage [TS]

00:44:06   dan Savage has a you know we all try to [TS]

00:44:10   compensate for our our lifestyles on the [TS]

00:44:13   road we all try to do we all have habits [TS]

00:44:14   will have little quirks dan Savage a [TS]

00:44:17   very interesting thing which is he keeps [TS]

00:44:20   every single key card from every hotel [TS]

00:44:23   he station and because damn tours [TS]

00:44:26   extensively doing his savage love shows [TS]

00:44:29   and various you know he's a he does [TS]

00:44:33   speaking he goes out with the it gets [TS]

00:44:36   better' campaign he's been all over the [TS]

00:44:38   world and he has collected a week's [TS]

00:44:41   collected not just a stack of key cards [TS]

00:44:43   but he had to then move over and and go [TS]

00:44:46   to a second stack i approve this hobby [TS]

00:44:48   this is an interesting hobby [TS]

00:44:49   yeah it's a so he keeps a very small [TS]

00:44:51   group of things that right on his mantle [TS]

00:44:53   and it's just too enormous stacks of key [TS]

00:44:56   cards and as you know from living at [TS]

00:44:59   some point in your life in a keycard [TS]

00:45:00   economy as soon as you leave the hotel [TS]

00:45:03   you no longer you can no longer look at [TS]

00:45:05   the keycard and and know anything about [TS]

00:45:08   when you stayed there what it was about [TS]

00:45:10   like today is just another marriott it [TS]

00:45:13   yeah exactly it's just like it this is [TS]

00:45:15   meaningless it has no dates on its it [TS]

00:45:17   tells me not them now maybe if I had a [TS]

00:45:19   key card reader i could put it in and it [TS]

00:45:21   would say something about me know all [TS]

00:45:23   that it does but as far as i know and a [TS]

00:45:26   lot of our just blank it but he's kept [TS]

00:45:29   them all and I think that it's admirable [TS]

00:45:31   and it's just an exhibit just it's up on [TS]

00:45:33   the the mantle and it's like that i love [TS]

00:45:35   that it's like my grandpa was used to [TS]

00:45:37   grab a a book of matches and then put [TS]

00:45:39   the big brandy snifter on top of the TV [TS]

00:45:40   you [TS]

00:45:41   like my dad had that exact collection [TS]

00:45:43   and I inherited it [TS]

00:45:45   oh now i have a giant urn of of nineteen [TS]

00:45:48   seventies and sixties matchbooks which I [TS]

00:45:50   cannot use because of course I chair you [TS]

00:45:53   know like I treasure them [TS]

00:45:54   yeah and so something like you got a [TS]

00:45:55   match and I'm like nope sorry yeah [TS]

00:45:57   you're amazing my ass [TS]

00:45:58   yeah I have missed 11 and look at justin [TS]

00:46:02   gets me from it's just mad when you've [TS]

00:46:05   done all the time and now it never [TS]

00:46:06   happened you're embracing my collapse [TS]

00:46:09   you have a point particularly by a [TS]

00:46:13   20,000 matters but yeah I got a match [TS]

00:46:16   i also have a swivel dick you know [TS]

00:46:19   remember your hearts cards are [TS]

00:46:21   interesting because i'll bet you up that [TS]

00:46:22   should they are [TS]

00:46:24   I would be surprised if large hotel [TS]

00:46:27   companies were not using that data for [TS]

00:46:29   reasons [TS]

00:46:31   oh yeah not that there's all kinds of [TS]

00:46:33   interesting stuff that they could get [TS]

00:46:34   out of that data I mean at the very [TS]

00:46:37   least you can understand stuff I traffic [TS]

00:46:38   patterns right you can understand that [TS]

00:46:40   like oh you know this this person goes [TS]

00:46:42   like this place where you gotta like run [TS]

00:46:44   the card to get to the ice or whatever [TS]

00:46:45   right [TS]

00:46:46   just basic traffic patterns because that [TS]

00:46:48   affects their margins are so fucking [TS]

00:46:50   thin on those hotels and they're cutting [TS]

00:46:51   corners all the time and just just think [TS]

00:46:54   about the basic optimization that seems [TS]

00:46:56   to me that the most basic optimization [TS]

00:46:58   and probably one of the biggest cost [TS]

00:47:00   centers is turning rooms over with [TS]

00:47:02   housekeeping etc right right so like [TS]

00:47:05   that i'm only checkout guy every time [TS]

00:47:07   late check-out i always ask but you know [TS]

00:47:09   i mean for example you know you know [TS]

00:47:11   they recently a lot of the places have [TS]

00:47:13   taken many bars out of the rooms do you [TS]

00:47:16   know why I'm grateful because i hate [TS]

00:47:19   those things [TS]

00:47:19   well here's why they do it because turns [TS]

00:47:22   out it was more costly to maintain them [TS]

00:47:25   in the aggregate the money that they [TS]

00:47:27   were making so good it wasn't even [TS]

00:47:29   apparently was even worth the labor of [TS]

00:47:31   that guy coming knocking on your door [TS]

00:47:32   1045 why the fuck are you check anymore [TS]

00:47:35   but they're still here still there buddy [TS]

00:47:39   so good all good what makes sense but [TS]

00:47:43   you know there's a lot of data to clean [TS]

00:47:45   now tell you another thing if you live [TS]

00:47:46   in san francisco and you're like me get [TS]

00:47:48   what's called a clipper card your [TS]

00:47:49   clipper card clipper card is the thing [TS]

00:47:51   that lets you basically put money on [TS]

00:47:54   it and use it on all the different [TS]

00:47:55   bahria transit things what a lot of [TS]

00:47:58   people don't know is that you can go in [TS]

00:48:00   and you're here history of like where [TS]

00:48:02   you've traveled where you ran your card [TS]

00:48:04   it's all in awe dog really i've done [TS]

00:48:08   i've got to look at it because we have [TS]

00:48:10   orca cards up here now because the work [TS]

00:48:12   of course is the symbol of the Northwest [TS]

00:48:14   yes and the orca card allows you to [TS]

00:48:17   travel everywhere but there's a system [TS]

00:48:18   apparently where you blew up your card [TS]

00:48:21   and then i get i haven't read up on it [TS]

00:48:24   but I guess when you get to where you're [TS]

00:48:26   going you one blew up your card and I [TS]

00:48:28   like on bart for example Bart's weird [TS]

00:48:31   because I'd I still don't understand how [TS]

00:48:32   this works or why this works i guess it [TS]

00:48:34   makes sense because the nature of part [TS]

00:48:35   is you pay for how many like how far you [TS]

00:48:38   want how many fractions so you run bar [TS]

00:48:40   you use part you with this is different [TS]

00:48:42   from uni for people who don't know or [TS]

00:48:44   care unit is the San Francisco one where [TS]

00:48:46   if you're an honest citizen you run your [TS]

00:48:47   card charges you two dollars and [TS]

00:48:49   twenty-five cents and you can ride as [TS]

00:48:51   much as you want for 90 minutes with [TS]

00:48:53   with Bart you run your card and it [TS]

00:48:55   doesn't charge it but then when you get [TS]

00:48:56   off to get out of bart you have to run [TS]

00:48:58   it again and that's when it takes the [TS]

00:49:00   credit off your account right well sew [TS]

00:49:02   up the way Seattle has decided their [TS]

00:49:04   thing works is it's sort of like [TS]

00:49:06   Amsterdam you get on and there's no [TS]

00:49:09   turnstile you just go down and get on da [TS]

00:49:12   touch and yeah if you if you are an [TS]

00:49:16   honest person you blew up your car if [TS]

00:49:17   you're not you just are a scofflaw and [TS]

00:49:20   you ride it until some a security [TS]

00:49:24   officer comes on and starts walking down [TS]

00:49:26   the thing asking to see everybody's [TS]

00:49:27   think and then he has a little handheld [TS]

00:49:30   thing he blew up your car if it's if you [TS]

00:49:32   haven't looped it then you're I don't [TS]

00:49:34   know what you're in big trouble you [TS]

00:49:35   gotta get somebody takes to get your [TS]

00:49:39   Shakespeare but the thing about that [TS]

00:49:41   this is true and amsterdam and it's true [TS]

00:49:43   I'm i guess in the seattle thing is if [TS]

00:49:45   you're watching and the train pulls in [TS]

00:49:47   and you see because i think in Amsterdam [TS]

00:49:50   at least a different they have their [TS]

00:49:52   p.m. [TS]

00:49:53   they have five enforcement officers if [TS]

00:49:55   the trains that day have five doors and [TS]

00:49:59   so the train pulls up in there and a [TS]

00:50:00   person gets on each door oh IC but they [TS]

00:50:04   don't check the people who are getting [TS]

00:50:06   off at that stop [TS]

00:50:08   also you just you just wait it out yeah [TS]

00:50:11   youyou look for him and if you pull up [TS]

00:50:13   to a train in there they're like all the [TS]

00:50:15   all the scofflaws all like this is my [TS]

00:50:18   stop and then they're free and so it's [TS]

00:50:21   only grabbing the scofflaws who are [TS]

00:50:23   paying attention i don't know how it [TS]

00:50:25   works in Seattle because I've never seen [TS]

00:50:26   one of these guys get on but I'll I'm a [TS]

00:50:29   law-abiding citizen I want to do the [TS]

00:50:30   thing I brought my card I feel terrible [TS]

00:50:32   I feel terrible if for some reason like [TS]

00:50:34   I so dumb the two things I sweat are the [TS]

00:50:37   library and muni I feel so guilty [TS]

00:50:39   because I have a car for me in a car for [TS]

00:50:40   my daughter I pay full adult fare for my [TS]

00:50:42   daughter because I can't be bothered to [TS]

00:50:43   go and buy a kid's card downtown and so [TS]

00:50:46   it's cost us five dollars each time we [TS]

00:50:47   ride the train no big but sometimes you [TS]

00:50:49   just know how kind and I did you wrong [TS]

00:50:51   with you wrong well it's that means like [TS]

00:50:54   we ran out of credit and I didn't [TS]

00:50:55   realize it and i forgot to add more to [TS]

00:50:57   it and I'm like God's I'm scurrying to [TS]

00:50:59   the front of the train to go pay cash [TS]

00:51:01   just like I feel so guilty when i do it [TS]

00:51:03   no you don't want to be that guy but so [TS]

00:51:06   I never on boob and I guess what that [TS]

00:51:08   means is i pay full fare to go [TS]

00:51:10   everywhere interesting it's like parking [TS]

00:51:13   it's like you know if you leave your car [TS]

00:51:15   there they just assume that yeah exactly [TS]

00:51:16   yeah to assume you've been there the [TS]

00:51:18   whole time you know i mean right to [TS]

00:51:19   judge the whole month or pay the maximum [TS]

00:51:21   charge yeah so so I haven't quite [TS]

00:51:25   figured out the orca card and i'm [TS]

00:51:26   guessing that if I went and looked at my [TS]

00:51:29   history it would just say every time you [TS]

00:51:31   get on the train you go all with the end [TS]

00:51:32   interesting well there was a movement [TS]

00:51:34   while back to go back to your membership [TS]

00:51:36   cards there was a movement a while back [TS]

00:51:38   people saying hey look you really have [TS]

00:51:40   safeway parties where people would go [TS]

00:51:42   and it's just an excuse for you might [TS]

00:51:44   just be everybody a table at a bar but [TS]

00:51:46   everybody would swap safeway cards [TS]

00:51:48   why'd ya every time you meet a friend [TS]

00:51:51   you swap safely cards [TS]

00:51:53   why because the discount is identical it [TS]

00:51:56   screws with their chronic graphics and [TS]

00:51:59   data gather and I right culture jamming [TS]

00:52:02   culture jam because the thing is you go [TS]

00:52:04   all you know this is this [TS]

00:52:06   this 22 year old woman is suddenly [TS]

00:52:10   buying a lot more organic products and [TS]

00:52:13   vitamins right uh-huh sure thing and so [TS]

00:52:18   this is that means she's gonna have a [TS]

00:52:20   baby and like so now you're into what's [TS]

00:52:22   called chronic graphics which is once [TS]

00:52:23   you're able to figure out how old [TS]

00:52:24   somebody isn't what they do you can [TS]

00:52:26   tailor many things to them and then at [TS]

00:52:28   walgreens that give you a goddamn coupon [TS]

00:52:30   coupons i get the coupons i get i buy i [TS]

00:52:33   buy claritin and they gave me a coupon [TS]

00:52:34   for claritin yeah sure people who bought [TS]

00:52:38   this also bought Claire people who [TS]

00:52:40   bought a clock also bought three clocks [TS]

00:52:43   but here's what I'm worried about [TS]

00:52:45   why would I want to start getting [TS]

00:52:46   special offers for being pregnant [TS]

00:52:48   here's the thing it's a lot like tour [TS]

00:52:51   you gotta ask yourself I don't know what [TS]

00:52:52   or is but if I did I would say the [TS]

00:52:54   problem is the onion right towards the [TS]

00:52:56   tour is the onion that's right Joe Biden [TS]

00:52:58   and so the the thing is though you gotta [TS]

00:53:01   ask yourself well you know yeah maybe [TS]

00:53:03   it's going to cover up you know whatever [TS]

00:53:05   it is that I'm doing but remember your [TS]

00:53:07   IP is also being used for whatever [TS]

00:53:08   somebody else is doing [TS]

00:53:09   yeah exactly you get your hands right [TS]

00:53:12   and you don't get that also you going to [TS]

00:53:14   dance his guards it is my beautiful [TS]

00:53:16   house [TS]

00:53:16   that's right how did I get here ok so i [TS]

00:53:20   get the culture jamming yes aspect of it [TS]

00:53:23   I so basically culture jam jam style who [TS]

00:53:28   the when i go to the supermarket [TS]

00:53:30   basically the supermarket is receiving [TS]

00:53:32   two pieces of information one is coming [TS]

00:53:35   from an 82 year old woman who goes to [TS]

00:53:37   the grocery store or the or the [TS]

00:53:40   drugstore every single bank and buys [TS]

00:53:43   like a completely random old lady set of [TS]

00:53:47   things because my mom is a you know [TS]

00:53:49   she's not not a normal old lady right [TS]

00:53:52   she's buying like like I who knows what [TS]

00:53:54   she box frankly and then I go go in [TS]

00:53:58   there and typically the only things i [TS]

00:53:59   buy anywhere are a chocolate cake edible [TS]

00:54:04   and cream for my coffee right again half [TS]

00:54:08   and half a piece of chocolate cake and [TS]

00:54:10   so they've got to be like this little [TS]

00:54:13   old lady first of all she's up at five [TS]

00:54:16   yep because she's at the store of the [TS]

00:54:18   day it opened the moment it opens to buy [TS]

00:54:20   itouch Brett's I don't know what she's [TS]

00:54:23   buying sure little little thing she [TS]

00:54:26   likes to go [TS]

00:54:27   she's like old-school she likes to go to [TS]

00:54:28   the store every day kinda like you and [TS]

00:54:30   then generally at eleven-forty-five 15 [TS]

00:54:33   minutes before the store closes she [TS]

00:54:36   comes back and bi's chocolate cake and [TS]

00:54:38   half-and-half yeah like what are we to [TS]

00:54:41   make of this how do we tailor how do we [TS]

00:54:43   tailor the circular you gotta yeah how [TS]

00:54:46   to shape the algorithm right you think [TS]

00:54:50   everyone just like pull the tape on that [TS]

00:54:51   and go look and see what's going on [TS]

00:54:54   it's all you know oh oh my god you're [TS]

00:54:57   gonna love this [TS]

00:54:58   my mom called a phone tree the other day [TS]

00:55:01   she called the place [TS]

00:55:02   oh you know what it was it was a the [TS]

00:55:04   printer printer stop work ok and so she [TS]

00:55:06   called the helpline and she made it [TS]

00:55:08   through the phone tree and she put in [TS]

00:55:11   her you know her home address or social [TS]

00:55:14   security number [TS]

00:55:15   not really she didn't put in your social [TS]

00:55:16   security number I've told her not to do [TS]

00:55:18   that but she put in the number on the [TS]

00:55:20   printer and all this stuff and then [TS]

00:55:22   finally she got somebody who had never [TS]

00:55:23   heard of her and need her to tell them [TS]

00:55:25   all that information has and then she [TS]

00:55:29   talk to that person for 20 minutes [TS]

00:55:31   person was like struggling to solve the [TS]

00:55:33   problem and then they got cut off [TS]

00:55:35   Oh God back right it's all the thing [TS]

00:55:39   back and the first voice came on hello [TS]

00:55:42   welcome to epson and she yelled into the [TS]

00:55:45   phone i just spent 70 minutes talking to [TS]

00:55:49   your person and I did you know and it [TS]

00:55:52   according to her clicked immediately to [TS]

00:55:54   an operator well and so she was we were [TS]

00:55:59   driving in the car and she was she was [TS]

00:56:01   thinking about what had happened because [TS]

00:56:04   she felt like she had discovered a hack [TS]

00:56:07   if you if you yell at the phone it will [TS]

00:56:12   understand and it will take you [TS]

00:56:15   immediately to an operator what she [TS]

00:56:17   couldn't die either i've i've done this [TS]

00:56:19   house on right now yeah because it used [TS]

00:56:22   to be time so i cut off your story [TS]

00:56:23   please go ahead [TS]

00:56:24   well she couldn't decide she was toying [TS]

00:56:28   with two options did the did the [TS]

00:56:31   algorithm understand her words did the [TS]

00:56:36   algorithm understand her tone I think [TS]

00:56:39   it's purely volume try this next time [TS]

00:56:42   this happens to you so used to be in the [TS]

00:56:43   nineties if you're a smart cookie new [TS]

00:56:45   knew a thing which is in an early days [TS]

00:56:48   of phone trees everybody eventually [TS]

00:56:49   learned if you just keep your kids 0 [TS]

00:56:52   over and over and over and eventually [TS]

00:56:53   we'll go through well now remember your [TS]

00:56:55   options have recently changed something [TS]

00:56:58   I haven't done this in a while because I [TS]

00:56:59   don't call that I can't be helped i [TS]

00:57:00   won't call places anymore but now I [TS]

00:57:02   don't say the word but if you just [TS]

00:57:04   scream the f-word repeatedly whoa i [TS]

00:57:08   don't know i'm suddenly so careful about [TS]

00:57:09   this no way real green the f word over [TS]

00:57:12   and over in your but it'll cut over to a [TS]

00:57:15   operator justjust fun try it [TS]

00:57:16   collapse and collapse and see if it [TS]

00:57:18   works just for fun now you probably [TS]

00:57:20   could be yelling tom bombadil and it [TS]

00:57:23   would take you any way I don't know [TS]

00:57:24   right well the door tom bombadil would [TS]

00:57:27   show up which will be cool [TS]

00:57:30   troublemaker John it's hard to know [TS]

00:57:34   ok he may be the oldest living thing [TS]

00:57:37   maybe the personification of of of [TS]

00:57:41   nature [TS]

00:57:42   oh my goodness but there is some [TS]

00:57:43   suggestion that he's older than the [TS]

00:57:46   Rings older than the oldest elves [TS]

00:57:50   Wow and that he has chosen be pretty [TS]

00:57:54   precedes the ring he precedes the be [TS]

00:57:57   precedes at all room and he's chosen to [TS]

00:57:59   live you know self constrained on this [TS]

00:58:02   little plot on the town the oldest of [TS]

00:58:05   the old the most ancient and so if i [TS]

00:58:10   could conjure him and he'd show up here [TS]

00:58:12   at my house and I do like Tom I'm god I [TS]

00:58:15   can't find my computer [TS]

00:58:17   and and tom bombadil he never seems to [TS]

00:58:21   get bored right tom bombadil never see [TS]

00:58:23   all the photos of him he looks like he's [TS]

00:58:25   doing a little dance looks very jolly [TS]

00:58:27   yeah he's you know what he's bored by [TS]

00:58:28   the ring which has no effect on it [TS]

00:58:31   oh interesting idea takes the ring BB is [TS]

00:58:35   messes with it for a while you fools [TS]

00:58:37   with it and he's like board gives it [TS]

00:58:40   value the one thing that everybody else [TS]

00:58:43   is obsessed with the he's bored by the [TS]

00:58:45   register so i feel so here's my question [TS]

00:58:50   dan Savage style do you think there is [TS]

00:58:52   anyone listening to our program that has [TS]

00:58:54   kept every fob like I'm other room keys [TS]

00:58:59   know not everyone will like the room [TS]

00:59:02   keys but it's not room keys it's fobs so [TS]

00:59:04   like donkeys like when you go to a [TS]

00:59:05   library in your library card you get a [TS]

00:59:07   normal-sized like whatever that is for [TS]

00:59:09   by to whatever standard credit [TS]

00:59:11   card-sized goes into the wall trying to [TS]

00:59:13   get that and then you get a little thing [TS]

00:59:14   like your gym membership thing that's [TS]

00:59:16   running a farm like the little guy yeah [TS]

00:59:18   the little one that's supposed to go on [TS]

00:59:19   your keychain [TS]

00:59:20   yeah is there someone out there who just [TS]

00:59:23   their own little peccadilloes they carry [TS]

00:59:27   around the keyring with all of the [TS]

00:59:29   little oh IC ok so you're saying is [TS]

00:59:32   there anybody in our audience who gets [TS]

00:59:35   the fob uses the fob keeps using the fob [TS]

00:59:38   and they just get a big-ass keychain [TS]

00:59:39   full of fobs keychain fob now that's one [TS]

00:59:42   spin doctors record because you see [TS]

00:59:46   right people that and I don't remember [TS]

00:59:48   you know I've seen there's a key culture [TS]

00:59:50   we've talked about this there's a table [TS]

00:59:51   filter the the 900 keys on their key [TS]

00:59:54   ring who um but there's got him now be a [TS]

00:59:58   of pop [TS]

00:59:58   of pop [TS]

01:00:00   culture mhm right because i keep getting [TS]

01:00:02   at and i'm not even talking about [TS]

01:00:04   let's leave aside the ones that you get [TS]

01:00:06   from walgreens that are a little paper [TS]

01:00:07   thing on your keychain people keep [TS]

01:00:09   giving me fobs that actually are the [TS]

01:00:12   size and shape of a cookie like an [TS]

01:00:14   actual like keyboards cookie-like [TS]

01:00:18   keebler elf who are still younger than [TS]

01:00:22   tom bombadil and they are they [TS]

01:00:26   because they're elves not dwarves right [TS]

01:00:27   are the dwarves little people don't want [TS]

01:00:31   to talk about the ones that live in a [TS]

01:00:32   tree when they come and they called an [TS]

01:00:34   elves but they don't look like what [TS]

01:00:36   we've come to believe elves look like [TS]

01:00:38   no they're not like we're closer to what [TS]

01:00:40   we would think i think is a tour right [TS]

01:00:43   with the hat they have the Hat [TS]

01:00:45   yeah LOL jobs i think of as being those [TS]

01:00:48   elegant creatures that look like the guy [TS]

01:00:49   from the matrix sure you know exactly [TS]

01:00:52   where that outrageous that actress with [TS]

01:00:55   the father and Aerosmith like isn't she [TS]

01:00:57   an elf [TS]

01:00:58   I think she's an elf yeah what about [TS]

01:01:00   Claire Danes you know she had wings in [TS]

01:01:03   that soul asylum video on Homeland [TS]

01:01:07   I don't know that's a really good [TS]

01:01:08   question remember she can't angel wings [TS]

01:01:10   in that time that video [TS]

01:01:12   oh no I stopped watching your errand [TS]

01:01:14   arrow a Smith was after a while you know [TS]

01:01:17   what's the one the one the be not Claire [TS]

01:01:20   Danes but the but the one chance [TS]

01:01:24   keep pushing yeah keep winching yeah I [TS]

01:01:26   think she's an elf and then you get the [TS]

01:01:28   name is Hugo Weaving he's the guy who is [TS]

01:01:29   V for Vendetta [TS]

01:01:31   there's also the agent the sunglasses in [TS]

01:01:33   the jello movie do you know what he you [TS]

01:01:35   know what I learned he was the v for [TS]

01:01:37   vendetta i was i was very I was that it [TS]

01:01:41   could have been a better guy because boy [TS]

01:01:42   what an emotive performance you know [TS]

01:01:45   what I heard I heard that was actually I [TS]

01:01:47   heard that they attempted very briefly [TS]

01:01:49   I'm just repeating something her on a [TS]

01:01:51   podcast but I heard the attempted very [TS]

01:01:52   briefly to have a stand him for him and [TS]

01:01:54   having just do the voice but I've heard [TS]

01:01:56   pretty much that whole movie is that [TS]

01:01:58   actor in a mask [TS]

01:01:59   yes and it's his performance is amazing [TS]

01:02:02   i really like that movie [TS]

01:02:03   yeah it would have to it would have to [TS]

01:02:04   be him because you couldn't duplicate [TS]

01:02:06   that kind of body [TS]

01:02:07   language yeah that amount of sensitivity [TS]

01:02:10   to to the physicality of that role of [TS]

01:02:13   guys on the internet I i really think [TS]

01:02:15   that's how they look [TS]

01:02:16   Orson a white lady a lot of lot of the [TS]

01:02:20   glove gracious gestures words [TS]

01:02:23   yeah jukebox swords and sorcery these [TS]

01:02:26   big sorcery who could be i've been to [TS]

01:02:30   actual in oregon i know how much sorcery [TS]

01:02:32   there is i thought what about that place [TS]

01:02:33   in Arizona was called fredonia was no [TS]

01:02:36   that place that's got like crystal [TS]

01:02:37   energy what's called sits in sedona so [TS]

01:02:40   that we don't you [TS]

01:02:41   babilona Arizona public persona got to [TS]

01:02:43   meet a stoner but this [TS]

01:02:46   well there's that place north joshua [TS]

01:02:50   tree with be a giant pyramid made out of [TS]

01:02:53   copper tubing know what yeah I've been [TS]

01:02:56   to Twentynine Palms well on your Marines [TS]

01:02:59   we were talking about this which I [TS]

01:03:00   talked about this with your family [TS]

01:03:02   twentynine palms together nice [TS]

01:03:03   aspiration gonna stay there now it's [TS]

01:03:05   very interesting it's got a lot of [TS]

01:03:07   military training and hippies [TS]

01:03:09   yeah yeah um I how the trip go by the [TS]

01:03:13   way they have fun at Joshua Tree [TS]

01:03:15   I think everyone had fun i don't think [TS]

01:03:18   they went to joshua tree that's partly [TS]

01:03:20   why they had fun i think they stayed in [TS]

01:03:22   Palm Springs the entire tunnel [TS]

01:03:25   interesting and but I recently was [TS]

01:03:32   looking at real estate in Joshua Tree [TS]

01:03:34   okay and here's what's confusing [TS]

01:03:38   here's what's confusing about buying a [TS]

01:03:39   vacation home in joshua tree but they're [TS]

01:03:44   there so you go you go on you go on your [TS]

01:03:47   whatever your real estate your favorite [TS]

01:03:49   real estate any interest in or an [TS]

01:03:52   Anglophile yeah SAR has better worker [TS]

01:03:56   stands yep and you go on there and you [TS]

01:04:00   put in Joshua Tree a vacation home or [TS]

01:04:03   joshua tree home real estate and up pops [TS]

01:04:07   a lot of things and you can buy 50 acres [TS]

01:04:10   in joshua tree for five thousand dollars [TS]

01:04:12   or you can buy 50 acres in joshua tree [TS]

01:04:16   for a million-dollar [TS]

01:04:17   and location location location right i'm [TS]

01:04:20   looking at 24 pictures of both plots of [TS]

01:04:23   land bearing indistinguishable as far as [TS]

01:04:25   I can see there's no water on either one [TS]

01:04:28   of them there is nothing green on either [TS]

01:04:30   one of them they look like the surface [TS]

01:04:32   of Mars and as far as i can tell both of [TS]

01:04:35   them have manufactured homes situated on [TS]

01:04:38   them with enough parking for 40 vehicles [TS]

01:04:40   and you go [TS]

01:04:42   he helped I five-thousand-dollar ones [TS]

01:04:45   that sound right but i don't know like I [TS]

01:04:49   guess you who unlike almost every other [TS]

01:04:52   place you really would need to go to [TS]

01:04:54   Joshua Tree forget a local by the short [TS]

01:04:57   hairs and walking out there and say why [TS]

01:04:59   is this 15 thousand that one is a [TS]

01:05:01   million and then they are going to say [TS]

01:05:04   oh the five-thousand-dollar one is [TS]

01:05:06   haunted by the ghosts of our ancestors [TS]

01:05:07   and the million-dollar one is where its [TS]

01:05:11   lower the ancestors had wriggled is good [TS]

01:05:13   AT&T coverage there [TS]

01:05:14   sure that might be a to write to get [TS]

01:05:17   length if you're going to build a house [TS]

01:05:19   in joshua tree like here in Seattle you [TS]

01:05:21   buy a lot you get a bulldozer in there [TS]

01:05:23   you flatten out the dirt [TS]

01:05:25   maybe you dig a hole bill that yeah [TS]

01:05:28   there you would have to use dynamite [TS]

01:05:31   okay Ronnie yeah just like lobby right [TS]

01:05:34   you would have to use dynamite just to [TS]

01:05:35   clear a space for the bulldozer work so [TS]

01:05:39   so I I got pretty close to abandoning [TS]

01:05:42   the whole idea of a vacation home in [TS]

01:05:44   joshua tree in one session one session i [TS]

01:05:48   was confused in one session of looking i [TS]

01:05:51   was confused enough that I felt like if [TS]

01:05:54   i'm going to go to joshua tree for [TS]

01:05:55   vacation i'm just going to Aaron BB a [TS]

01:05:57   place you know you could learn more but [TS]

01:06:00   I think you're talking about something [TS]

01:06:01   that's just smart in general you know [TS]

01:06:02   that old line about like if you don't [TS]

01:06:04   know who that the asshole is it to you [TS]

01:06:06   you don't have a customer is it to you [TS]

01:06:08   if you don't know who the product is its [TS]

01:06:09   you through is same here like you know [TS]

01:06:12   in a case like that we like wait a [TS]

01:06:14   minute will be aware of situations where [TS]

01:06:16   you know less than any other person [TS]

01:06:18   involved that can be a very costly [TS]

01:06:20   decision [TS]

01:06:21   yep oh sure right you don't want to be [TS]

01:06:24   the one that's like you know what I got [TS]

01:06:26   this all this seems this seems nice [TS]

01:06:28   where bird nearest [TS]

01:06:29   I mean there's a there's a grocery store [TS]

01:06:32   and you like huh [TS]

01:06:33   but you don't know about the haunting [TS]

01:06:34   yeah what about the haunting you didn't [TS]

01:06:36   think about the haunting could be like [TS]

01:06:38   that place that the FBI keeps busting [TS]

01:06:40   because they think all the terrorist [TS]

01:06:41   cell phones are there to hear about well [TS]

01:06:44   is that out in eastern oregon there was [TS]

01:06:46   a place i forget where but there was [TS]

01:06:47   this big mystery about this one location [TS]

01:06:50   nobody can figure out why this this nice [TS]

01:06:53   little normal hipster couple lived in [TS]

01:06:54   this house and like all they kept [TS]

01:06:56   getting raided by different places where [TS]

01:06:59   they getting docked by fortran I don't [TS]

01:07:02   know because bad feels like a good docs [TS]

01:07:04   yeah this house this hipster house is [TS]

01:07:07   full of terrors [TS]

01:07:08   I'm just saying beware of real estate [TS]

01:07:10   agents bearing gifts on saying well sure [TS]

01:07:14   because you know there's another rule of [TS]

01:07:16   thumb least him at least in these rainy [TS]

01:07:18   con yeah don't buy the lowest house boy [TS]

01:07:22   right do not buy the geographically [TS]

01:07:25   lowest this is the joke John and it's [TS]

01:07:27   not even that funny once you understand [TS]

01:07:28   why it's a joke better because all you [TS]

01:07:30   know what is it what is it tornadoes [TS]

01:07:32   have against mobile home [TS]

01:07:33   haha well what tornadoes having its [TS]

01:07:35   mobile homes is they're built in the [TS]

01:07:37   cheapest lowest-lying place in the [TS]

01:07:39   entire community which is always wiped [TS]

01:07:40   out by tornadoes hahaha whether hates [TS]

01:07:45   poor people do people keep their [TS]

01:07:49   stupidness near the stupid tornado I we [TS]

01:07:54   had a similar thing in in Anchorage [TS]

01:07:56   which is there's a there's a gap in the [TS]

01:07:58   mountains outside of Anchorage that is [TS]

01:08:02   basically a giant wind tunnel that [TS]

01:08:04   funnels all wind tunnels the entire wind [TS]

01:08:08   all the wind every bit of the wind it [TS]

01:08:11   funnels down through this valley and the [TS]

01:08:13   valley is pointed like a blunderbuss at [TS]

01:08:18   a certain neighborhood of Seattle called [TS]

01:08:20   Muldoon and Muldoon is a place where a [TS]

01:08:26   where their trailer home parks and what [TS]

01:08:29   the wind really gets cooking which it [TS]

01:08:31   does every you know it's like a hundred [TS]

01:08:33   years storm that happens every eight [TS]

01:08:35   years [TS]

01:08:37   the wind comes down that blunderbuss and [TS]

01:08:40   the thing about it is it's the gap in [TS]

01:08:43   the mountains is not straight on like if [TS]

01:08:45   you're standing in Anchorage you look up [TS]

01:08:46   the mountains you don't see a valley [TS]

01:08:49   pointed at you [TS]

01:08:50   okay it's coming at you at an angle so [TS]

01:08:53   the mountains just looked like a kind of [TS]

01:08:55   contiguous mountain range with lots of [TS]

01:08:59   interesting sort of depth to it but [TS]

01:09:02   somewhere up there there's a spot that [TS]

01:09:03   if you look at it from the side [TS]

01:09:05   wow you can see all the way up to where [TS]

01:09:07   the wind limbs em this thing sheets that [TS]

01:09:10   wind down there and we'll pick up a [TS]

01:09:12   mobile home and just take it just take [TS]

01:09:15   them or you'll never see it again as it [TS]

01:09:17   tested negative things that come out of [TS]

01:09:19   nowhere [TS]

01:09:20   uh well they there so there are what [TS]

01:09:22   they call sustained gusts and for me [TS]

01:09:25   that seems to be like contradiction in [TS]

01:09:29   terms of her a gust is like by [TS]

01:09:33   definition not sustained sustained gusts [TS]

01:09:37   which is like at a certain point you get [TS]

01:09:40   these hurricane-force winds and they're [TS]

01:09:42   just picking up trailer homes and they [TS]

01:09:44   are destroying them like flapping them [TS]

01:09:46   like matchsticks and also taking them up [TS]

01:09:49   to the sky where you never to be seen [TS]

01:09:51   again taking them up and the yapping [TS]

01:09:53   dogs inside and gone forever [TS]

01:09:55   yeah and it's the same thing like why do [TS]

01:09:57   they keep why does the wind hate the [TS]

01:09:59   trailer home like well those are the [TS]

01:10:01   only things that get built in that area [TS]

01:10:03   probably be for this very same reason [TS]

01:10:05   huh [TS]

01:10:06   tornado alley huh wind wind killer zone [TS]

01:10:12   when he doesn't just persistent guess I [TS]

01:10:15   was sharing some of your wisdom with my [TS]

01:10:16   daughter just last week this thing you [TS]

01:10:19   taught me about learning to look at the [TS]

01:10:21   look at the land like where people [TS]

01:10:23   decided to settle in like why they [TS]

01:10:24   settled there and like notice how often [TS]

01:10:26   it's like near a body of water that [TS]

01:10:28   could be used for shipping or it's not [TS]

01:10:30   on the top of a mountain because it [TS]

01:10:31   would be hard to build a house there and [TS]

01:10:33   this is a good place for a railroad I [TS]

01:10:35   still think about that all the time [TS]

01:10:36   yeah right to get you wired why why is [TS]

01:10:39   it there on the river well because [TS]

01:10:40   that's the place that you could cross [TS]

01:10:42   the river and everywhere else on that [TS]

01:10:44   River it would be much harder to cross [TS]

01:10:46   it and also that's the place where the [TS]

01:10:49   waters running fastest where we can [TS]

01:10:51   the wheel and use it for power must have [TS]

01:10:53   tried to teach me this in school you [TS]

01:10:56   know [TS]

01:10:56   no i don't i don't think so i don't [TS]

01:10:58   think this is the type of business and [TS]

01:11:00   friendship thing I feel like some some [TS]

01:11:02   bleeding-heart liberal in the seventies [TS]

01:11:04   must have occurred to them to go [TS]

01:11:06   you ever wonder why Cincinnati's built [TS]

01:11:07   on what we call the Ohio River hmm i [TS]

01:11:10   don't think so i think they were so busy [TS]

01:11:12   saying now what what year was the war of [TS]

01:11:16   yeah right that they didn't you know [TS]

01:11:18   they're just trying to take off boxes [TS]

01:11:20   and they're not sitting there saying [TS]

01:11:21   let's think about this let's go and take [TS]

01:11:24   a look and see and and dream [TS]

01:11:27   let's dream mm-hmm the hippie teachers [TS]

01:11:30   didn't have the kind of the the [TS]

01:11:33   wherewithal that's a set just didn't [TS]

01:11:35   have permission to dream they didn't [TS]

01:11:37   have permission to dream in fact their [TS]

01:11:39   dreams their dreams did not become [TS]

01:11:41   reality their dreams were thwarted and [TS]

01:11:43   capped and I don't think I think what [TS]

01:11:45   we've lost now is even the knowledge [TS]

01:11:47   that there once were dream [TS]

01:11:48   oh my goodness right nobody's going into [TS]

01:11:50   the schools and say why is Cincinnati [TS]

01:11:52   built on the Ohio River [TS]

01:11:54   mar you know it wasn't called Cincinnati [TS]

01:11:57   or the Ohio River at one point nope nope [TS]

01:11:59   nope nope we what we got three naming [TS]

01:12:01   rights agency park 4a state but you know [TS]

01:12:04   when people are coming into a turf we're [TS]

01:12:06   coming in and taking a territory away [TS]

01:12:08   from somebody that might have been [TS]

01:12:09   already there huh [TS]

01:12:11   they're not taking away that you're not [TS]

01:12:12   bouncing them off of their territory [TS]

01:12:14   that they spent 900 years figuring out [TS]

01:12:16   was the best and then building something [TS]

01:12:19   a mile and a half away just to be [TS]

01:12:21   different [TS]

01:12:21   huh they're bouncing off the best land [TS]

01:12:24   and then they're building their thing [TS]

01:12:25   they're very nice [TS]

01:12:28   well you know that's not they weren't [TS]

01:12:30   thinking in terms of nice [TS]

01:12:31   no but what's the big here let me [TS]

01:12:34   quickly let me query yes it does matter [TS]

01:12:36   yes what's the big diagonal street in [TS]

01:12:39   Cincinnati that is a major thoroughfare [TS]

01:12:41   but appears to not conform to the grid [TS]

01:12:44   hell cheese I don't know I wasn't there [TS]

01:12:47   when i was driving age we live in a [TS]

01:12:49   northwest part of town mostly so I mean [TS]

01:12:52   I've been downtown a lot we drive by [TS]

01:12:54   downtown a lot but i'm not sure i don't [TS]

01:12:59   think i know the answer to that any [TS]

01:13:00   their version of market street basically [TS]

01:13:02   yeah [TS]

01:13:02   typically in a city there [TS]

01:13:04   is a generally going to be 1 and this is [TS]

01:13:07   you know starts in the old part of [TS]

01:13:09   terror and one street that doesn't does [TS]

01:13:11   not conform to the grid that's a major [TS]

01:13:13   that's like--that's at the ER road [TS]

01:13:16   yeah that's the indian trail ok right [TS]

01:13:18   that's the one that that they built the [TS]

01:13:21   road right along the indian trail [TS]

01:13:22   because that was obviously the best [TS]

01:13:24   route is likewise a drive right it's [TS]

01:13:27   like Chief lacquer probably done right [TS]

01:13:29   wacker drive here and then they build [TS]

01:13:32   the town up around it and somebody comes [TS]

01:13:33   along like we need to put this town into [TS]

01:13:35   a grid but we can't do that to wacker [TS]

01:13:37   road because hair hair wacker the [TS]

01:13:40   original chief of this area [TS]

01:13:43   yeah really original illinoisians yeah [TS]

01:13:45   like all the buildings are on that road [TS]

01:13:48   already but we're going to build a grid [TS]

01:13:49   around it and then this roads going to [TS]

01:13:50   be either the shortcut or the confounded [TS]

01:13:53   inconsiderate road that would be market [TS]

01:13:56   street for us [TS]

01:13:57   yeah yeah yeah what is that what is that [TS]

01:13:59   in Seattle you have one of those [TS]

01:14:02   well so there's so Seattle is very [TS]

01:14:05   confusingly built the following way one [TS]

01:14:10   of the early so the early settlers came [TS]

01:14:13   and they all they all claimed a sort of [TS]

01:14:17   well a claim of a certain portion of [TS]

01:14:21   what became downtown seattle and one [TS]

01:14:23   person thought that the roads should be [TS]

01:14:25   parallel to the water [TS]

01:14:27   uh-huh which made sense right first [TS]

01:14:30   avenue second Avenue third Avenue as [TS]

01:14:32   they come up from the water because the [TS]

01:14:34   water there was a a assure that was [TS]

01:14:36   fairly even that short does not point [TS]

01:14:39   north-south it is sort of northwest by [TS]

01:14:43   southeast but this the streets downtown [TS]

01:14:45   are parallel to that Coast that was one [TS]

01:14:48   guy's idea and then another person [TS]

01:14:51   thought that the street should be [TS]

01:14:52   oriented true north south so he started [TS]

01:14:56   building on his claim [TS]

01:14:58   north south and then a third person [TS]

01:15:02   thought that their roads should just be [TS]

01:15:05   built according to their own with half [TS]

01:15:08   way and there might even have been a [TS]

01:15:12   fourth person that thought that the road [TS]

01:15:14   should go according to the the ridgeline [TS]

01:15:17   of the of the hill one he'll back and so [TS]

01:15:21   when they finally get through [TS]

01:15:23   everybody's got their own program here [TS]

01:15:24   right [TS]

01:15:25   and so when the city grew up enough that [TS]

01:15:28   these areas needed to be connected [TS]

01:15:30   nobody said alright we're going to tear [TS]

01:15:32   down your whole neighborhood and rebuild [TS]

01:15:33   it because this is dumb [TS]

01:15:35   they just connected at all and so if you [TS]

01:15:38   look at an overhead map of Seattle you [TS]

01:15:40   will see that the streets go every which [TS]

01:15:44   way it's like a it's like a broken [TS]

01:15:46   window or if you gave LSD to a spider [TS]

01:15:50   and I don't know if you've ever given [TS]

01:15:53   alicito spider-boy i think i remember [TS]

01:15:56   seeing photos of LSD spider webs in [TS]

01:16:00   health class [TS]

01:16:01   yeah well they were basically every one [TS]

01:16:02   of them at Seattle em but the main so [TS]

01:16:07   the main thoroughfares are a demi which [TS]

01:16:10   goes all the way up and over and down [TS]

01:16:12   and that of course is named after mr. [TS]

01:16:15   Demi is area that was and then there's [TS]

01:16:18   born which goes the other way [TS]

01:16:21   cattywampus canoodle over this way and [TS]

01:16:25   that's named after mr. Bourne and uh you [TS]

01:16:29   know then you had James which is named [TS]

01:16:32   after mr. James and yesler named after [TS]

01:16:35   mr. yesler and there are consistent in [TS]

01:16:38   the naming if not on the implementation [TS]

01:16:40   right they're all going their own way [TS]

01:16:43   they can go their own way hm [TS]

01:16:46   good call there all day that's right and [TS]

01:16:49   it makes it if you know what you're [TS]

01:16:51   doing in seattle you can go from a demi [TS]

01:16:55   to born to yesler and you get there get [TS]

01:17:00   there a lot faster take Danny to born [TS]

01:17:02   born to us left over [TS]

01:17:04   you don't know what you're doing and you [TS]

01:17:05   think that you just will drive down this [TS]

01:17:07   one street that has a number and it will [TS]

01:17:09   take you to somewhere else [TS]

01:17:11   you're a fool because you will not get [TS]

01:17:14   there get there right you'll end up [TS]

01:17:16   going [TS]

01:17:18   until somebody until somehow you get [TS]

01:17:21   funneled down to born meant yesler but [TS]

01:17:24   when I sort incurred averaged a chance [TS]

01:17:25   right but i think you know like it in [TS]

01:17:29   the New York City you're gonna get your [TS]

01:17:30   Broadway that goes from together to from [TS]

01:17:33   heather to do that either right [TS]

01:17:35   Broadway's out batteries down [TS]

01:17:37   that's right well yet the idea [TS]

01:17:41   well it wasn't what I know from New York [TS]

01:17:43   I've learned from musicals yeah the [TS]

01:17:44   Bronx is up in the battery's down okay [TS]

01:17:46   which one of my the year the bronx ok [TS]

01:17:49   you know I went I went finally on a tour [TS]

01:17:52   a self-guided tour of of the bronx [TS]

01:17:56   proper oh nice trick just a couple [TS]

01:17:58   months ago i was there i was given a [TS]

01:18:01   tour of New York to my lady friend my [TS]

01:18:04   millennial girlfriend down driving [TS]

01:18:05   around and we were coming back from [TS]

01:18:07   somewhere up north coming back from [TS]

01:18:10   Poughkeepsie or something and i was like [TS]

01:18:12   even down here over here off the freeway [TS]

01:18:15   here you'll see the bronx and i started [TS]

01:18:17   giving Korea a description of the [TS]

01:18:19   history of the Bronx Bronx has gotta a [TS]

01:18:21   long and storied history and fort apache [TS]

01:18:26   there in the bronx fort apache the bronx [TS]

01:18:28   and she said well I want to see the [TS]

01:18:32   bronx and i was like oh well generally [TS]

01:18:34   you don't see the bronx generally just [TS]

01:18:36   refer to the bronx you point to the [TS]

01:18:38   bronx on a map or you look at the Bronx [TS]

01:18:41   as you go over it on the freeway and she [TS]

01:18:42   said why I would prefer to get off the [TS]

01:18:45   freeway and see the bronx i said i said [TS]

01:18:48   this will be fun and we got down on the [TS]

01:18:50   freeway and we drove around the bronx [TS]

01:18:52   all night long and it was extraordinary [TS]

01:18:53   really a lot going on in the bronx and [TS]

01:18:57   you wouldn't know it by looking at it on [TS]

01:18:59   a map [TS]

01:19:00   you have to be down there on the streets [TS]

01:19:02   of the Bronx looking at it and yeah so I [TS]

01:19:05   learned a new thing [TS]

01:19:06   well I learned two things listen to what [TS]

01:19:08   my little girlfriend sense [TS]

01:19:10   yeah and also then go to the Bronx [TS]

01:19:12   definitely changing the way that wine is [TS]

01:19:14   sold [TS]

01:19:15   they also changing their also changing [TS]

01:19:17   our idea of how we interact with the [TS]

01:19:19   bronx right right then we have a lot to [TS]

01:19:21   thank the Millennials social for [TS]

01:19:23   millenniums yeah and and I'm learning [TS]

01:19:26   every day every single day [TS]

01:19:28   did you you look at it that way you look [TS]

01:19:29   at it as a learning experience well you [TS]

01:19:32   gotta look at it somehow and you know [TS]

01:19:36   after four after 40 different people [TS]

01:19:38   wrote me emails telling me not to use [TS]

01:19:39   the term Bernie bro because it's racist [TS]

01:19:41   20 bases against him Bernie bros tony [TS]

01:19:46   hill by the way BTW they don't do not [TS]

01:19:49   exist btdubs so it's it's a racist white [TS]

01:19:52   people [TS]

01:19:52   yeah Bernie bros who are who don't exist [TS]

01:19:54   but its equivalent to races are all its [TS]

01:19:57   equivalent to radio so that's everything [TS]

01:19:59   now that hurts your feelings is [TS]

01:20:01   equivalent to racism this is another [TS]

01:20:02   thing that I learned from millenniums we [TS]

01:20:04   switch this generations racism with [TS]

01:20:07   soldiers crystals tonight [TS]

01:20:09   hey never asks for another cup of my [TS]

01:20:12   racism for Bernie Americans [TS]