Ep. 235: "Where the Wind Lives"
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hello hi John how's it going oh Maury
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rather things are good
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Oh smashing to hear pip-pip gallery as
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how does enjoy one skype calls with
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one's friends and swarming house
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yes lottery dollars corset membership
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has its privileges
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so you say mm oh I got some really
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really tiny espresso Boateng is Russell
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tank i love their first three records
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mm-hmm tanki yep yep yep everything's
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going pretty good pretty you pick up
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your books yet little gonna be one of
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those episodes I who knows what it is
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and you know what handling as you say
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what good my shows and everything that's
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in the show is in the show it's
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happening in the show that's how you
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know it's in the show that's precisely
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right receives the moment
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merly murderer man John right three keys
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watching you
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that's in the show that's in the show
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everything in the show it's part of the
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that's how you pointed out the other day
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that every time you look at a picture of
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Halla notes
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Paul is on the left notes on the right
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ah this is true I've chinesse i have
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found a couple candid shots but pretty
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much every this goes all the way back to
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like 73 maybe Paul's going to told me
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this might be it might be a total lot of
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people about this
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yeah but yeah I know it's a it's always
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hall on our left
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yeah hall on our left to call on our
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left but is watching you
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man your Android they're really
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underrated we've gone over this heavily
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oh and you know what we can talk about
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holidays it's like time travel around
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like talking on
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what's going on in your world maritime
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in the woods
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it's been awhile now it's good it's good
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I yeah I got strong feelings
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yeah like a strong feelings about the
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walking dead but I also strong feelings
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about rei let's start with rei because I
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don't know anything about the walking
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dead so no I don't talk about let's not
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talk about time travel
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no no but I want to talk about re I've
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got to see I've got a history with rei
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and it all comes back to this basic
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point i go into that store for article
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of clothing or gear is going to have
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some kind of a fairly specific non
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adventure role in my life he wanted to
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wick away sweat
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well i mean i wouldn't mind that mhm
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they wanted to be lightweight but still
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durable yeah that would be nice
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I i would like it to be a modern
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technical a lot of cases but I think I
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told you the story the first time I
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remember ever buying something at rei I
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went in and it was buying a pair of what
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was then you remember in the late
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nineties there was a vogue for kind of
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like high-tech cargo pants like urban
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outfitter pants that were like a hundred
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fifty dollars and also we were still
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wearing we in the dot com biz we're
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still wearing like a hiking boot toward
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yeah I was kind of a look it's an
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evergreen look and was it that was a
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royal robbins brand paints I've had I
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have a royal robbins shirt from around
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that time that I still where it's been
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very durable and it works and
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lightweight durable lightweight for my
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active lifestyle right works with what
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so anyway anyway I mean this is just as
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she set the tone from rei problem which
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is I must say my problem not yours is
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problem but you never know
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well here's the thing i went in there
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and shop like a dude you know I tend to
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just kinda like I barely stopped moving
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the entire time i'm in the place i put
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on these shoes and then they offer me
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this device that they prefer a role it
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has this little device where you can
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like it emulates rock and what is so it
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looks kind of like an organic
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hasook like almost like the world's
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worst ottoman like if you have the lag
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might that was an ottoman an organic
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have shower organic cast cassocks
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cassock ass off half the Catholic is a
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dancer a Catholic as well as a kind of
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Russian in rhythm is a dancer is that
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right rhythm is gonna move you okay what
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about you can see there's a part of the
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rhythm nation
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I thought I was okay i was until miss
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Jackson said I was nasty
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wow that's right it all comes back to
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early man so they had this I tried them
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on and they're like the guys talking
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about things like torsion control so you
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got to have that and all this in the
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wide foot base and he offered me the
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organic asslick to try to tread upon the
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whole test performance characteristics
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of my new footwear and he said yeah what
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are you gonna wear you be doing this
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I'll never forget i said i was on a long
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lunch break from a dot-com job and I
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said I said we're gonna do it be said
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these are webpage making shoes i was he
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was not mad i mean i think he was maybe
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not exactly disappointed but like I let
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him down because I'm even then I was a
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middle-aged white guy had nothing much
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has changed but I don't think you're
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supposed to tear away the veil as
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abruptly as i did know you're supposed
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to say well you know I do like hiking a
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lot of weekends stop and get out there
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trying to get out and get my tool a box
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and clear my Subaru and I go to the
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front face of the mountain climb and you
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know gets no tell you the dogs drag it
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out there are you know I always try to
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get out there that's why I got super you
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know love is what makes a Subaru a
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Subaru well-loved and yeah Rockets love
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love and and you know what coexist all
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coexist
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yeah Mr exist oh I'm also yeah
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wagging less than barking 10 waiting on
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you like I'm part of the elizabeth
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warren wing of the bumper sticker
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community so so now fast-forward to
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today so we don't go to the mall
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very much but I want to visit some
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friends in corte madera and corte madera
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is where they have to really nice malls
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when we go to court in madera or pass by
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corte madera I make a point of saying to
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my to my ladies I say let's go to the
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mall because one thing they got a
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bookstore got a barnes and noble single
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book start by some books they also know
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what I'm started running on please today
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when you say let's go to the mall you
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already stipulated to really nice malls
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and pull the Madeira yeah look these up
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about you did everyone know which mall
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you're referring to or is everything
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we've got stonestown we've been to
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stonestown you and me that's near us
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that's that's kind of a sad mall and
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it's it's kind of on its way out but
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corte madera so there's two malls
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there's the village at corte madera and
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there is the town's there's the village
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at corte madera and then there's the
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town centre corte madera concern for
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having me a PM no it's not a sentra it's
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not at the atra it's a so in there
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across the highway from each other now
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my friends live like a stone's throw
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from this mall so we go to the mall
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because the barnes and noble and we go i
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go to the rei because i said to my wife
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I says I said I I'm very happy that is
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why I says Wi-Fi I'm very happy with my
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rain jacket that they got me for my
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birthday
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your two ago I love it love it i think
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it's a marmot it's got a liner it's
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really nice it's blue it's everything I
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could want in a jack and i think let's
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be honest I think we bought it at rei
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right it should it sheds rain but it was
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a waste what it's got performance
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characteristics and torsion control so
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now you know flash for this is some 16
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17 years since my first re-experience
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and I still feel like an utter fucking
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poser because here's me me is I want to
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go in there and I want to get some kind
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of a jacket that's not quite a rain
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jacket I want to be not quite a
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Pendleton shirt I want something that's
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like a jacket that a man would wear and
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not look like he's caused playing some
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role right now I'm not gonna make a big
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deal about this people should do the
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things that they like to do and have
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nothing against cosplay or large
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for fronting the face of the extreme
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mountain sure
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with that said I went in there and I
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looked at every single item they had in
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their jackets section I almost made us
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late for dinner because i was determined
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to find something and we're here
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it wasn't even a money thing it was
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because they're all kind of costly I was
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ready for that but there's gotta be
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something here I could wear where I
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don't look like I take yoga right where
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I don't look like a nothing again I
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think that's the yoga community co-exist
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but I want something that like looks
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like something I would wear and my
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cosplay my default cosplay is to look
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kind of like a lesbian janitor right
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kind of a carhartt Dickie look a lot of
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the time my sanity lesbians have the
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best haircuts ing or less i would cue
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ball pretty good here yet but you don't
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struggling i'm struggling that's a whole
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different issue i'm thinking about my
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friend Alex who is part of the tribe she
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goes to supercuts I'm thinking ago she
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has a great haircut i'm thinking of
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going to supercuts i don't know i don't
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know if i don't know how it's done
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apparently grass you just grows back but
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I've been following I've been following
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this phenomenon the lesbian haircut for
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27 years
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how do i do it what is like a house for
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it what is it up but anyway so there you
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are in your car hardened dickies looking
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for the perfect coat to communicate that
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you are you well to communicate honestly
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it's or the I don't see the opposite of
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what you do but i want to communicate as
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little as possible
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I at this point I want to just not be
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noticed and what I want to do it in a
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way that's comfortable here some of my
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points I would like it to be something
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that doesn't look too much like a rain
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jacket because I got a good rain jacket
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I need something for when it's maybe
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gonna rain but probably not i want to be
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warm but not polar i would like pockets
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i was i would like some pockets on it
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and one velcro closure i like a Velcro
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sleeve dingus
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I don't mind snaps in their little class
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here and i looked at one by a company i
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think it's called i want to say cool
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k uhl I'm not sure he had some nice
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things but they had kind of a yoga
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construction worker vibe
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and a little bit of a of they had a snap
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clasp which ones i say i'm not against
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they also have their own apparently rei
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fancy it's called after its or something
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like that
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oh yeah and and those jackets are seven
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hundred fifty dollars which is a little
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bit out of my price range plus again
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we're back to the dot-com shoes I feel
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like I cannot live up to this clothing
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so anyway I walked out of there feeling
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kind of sad i went and looked at shirts
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because I can always use another long
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sleeve shirt i ended up buying nothing
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which is ok but but I you know I'm
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frustrated with myself I don't want to
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say I'm frustrated with rei because i'm
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pretty sure everybody goes in there is
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pretty extreme but I feel I feel I have
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trouble finding the clothes that are for
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me and now series you know they're not
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going to carry the Trump stuff anymore
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macy's they're not doing great honey I
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don't know where to turn and I'm trying
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not to just buy things on the internet
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because it seems weird
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well yes that's why am I frustrated with
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the walking dead a little bit and I do
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not find a jacket that's saying to me
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you have you've hit on the thing I'm
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Merlin who you did on the real thing and
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this thing is the what I would describe
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as the decline and fall of a outdoor
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gear haha
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we've talked about is fine i think you
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had a part of decline with was there a
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time when you would you bet your life on
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this equipment there was a time when you
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can be hanging from MH we became there
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with your with your with your user
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jagermeister in your pocket dangling off
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a rock somewhere in Germany not even
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sure where we're feel like you're
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wearing borrowed feet and you're hanging
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on by a zipper there was a time hanging
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on by a zipper there was a there was a
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sweet spot right I feel like there's a
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sweet spot when things had things have
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progressed from wool and and wax cotton
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yeah there were new fabrics there were
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knew there was this new kind of science
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that we
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saying like oh we don't have to wear
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keeley hands and rubber every time we go
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out into the rain we can start to wear
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these lighter fabrics that breathe that
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wick away the sweat that have technology
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but those items were still built at the
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built in the fashion and of you know
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like it with the accoutrements of
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earlier coats so what what what it was I
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guess was years and years of time tested
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a apparel design by which i mean like
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the the actual shape of the garment and
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the situation of the pockets the shape
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of the hood who did the use of certain
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kinds of clasp zip heavy zippers you
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know huh
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but we have these new fabrics and it was
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and now you can have a jacket that was
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read holy cow
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yeah and the and the the wicking of
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course being a big thing I keep
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mentioning looking is important
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oh my god Wiccans important then someone
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you want those things like a like a
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microwave where you don't really realize
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how much you need it until you have it
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then you're going how did I ever do
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without waking how did I do
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although i know people that don't have a
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microwave if you can believe that so i
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made my first pee in a cup
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we should come back to that oh you did
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in fact that I'm but now i'm with you
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i'm thinking hear about also and you see
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no i'm not a ski person but I'm thinking
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about when ski gear changed at some
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point i'm guessing the seventies whereas
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like when I was a kid you get bundled up
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to go as we would say play in the snow
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you had all these layers and you look
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like Ralphie's brother and you know
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Christmas story and then they came out
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with these a-z colors in these more
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lightweight garments and but then things
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got very the to use a phrase I learned
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from my wife she refers to her clothes
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she wears to exercise what she does
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every day she calls it technical gear
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yeah that's right technical gear yeah
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there's where that that's where we got
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off the rails think so yeah because
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because as you say it's not just you
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you're not alone in sitting on your
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technical gear and more than writing
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software codes know
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no like one in a thousand people that
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buys a that buys this stuff that's
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advertised with a photograph of someone
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summiting machu picchu there is good to
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say somebody machu picchu yeah they've
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never summit much would be too nope and
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I and never will write what they but
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they but the gear you know it's like it
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like you say because you're you live in
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a climate you're gonna go outside is it
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gonna rain
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I don't know is it gonna you know like
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it could be 60 degrees when i walk out
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the door and by the time i get where I'm
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going to be 40 degrees and like hailing
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and I want something that doesn't that I
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don't like it I don't like it doe mhm
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partly they don't want to look like a
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dope like I get there and I'm not
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prepared you want to be prepared for
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anything even if you're not leaving that
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and it's just everything else in your
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house and they could totally happen this
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is climate is a very complicated she got
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butterfly wings i I'm with you on the
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seattle thing though in the sense that
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what while I think it's sweet that my
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daughter likes an umbrella i do not do
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an umbrella
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no no I'm gonna love above umbrellas I
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got it I got a hood and I got my
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personal will my willpower
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that's right what if you let's say you
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are let's say it's a walking dead
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scenario and all of a sudden your
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zombies everywhere and you've got it
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like I don't know what go walking
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amongst the top walking amongst the dead
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and presumably like hitting them with
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machetes sometimes and you got a
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souped-up truck i'm i'm just i'm
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guessing about this from seeing
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billboards in the New York subway
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yeah you're not you know how far off but
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so you're out there and it's a you're on
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this death trail and I gum guessing
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you've heard rumors that somewhere
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there's a community of people that have
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survived and I want way to present this
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you're headed there right
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meet up with the band it may just be a
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myth this is gonna be the one
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this is going to be the place may just
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be the myth that they're there but then
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you keep you have to keep going because
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what else
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why else can turn back mhm you can't
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just surrender you have to keep fighting
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are you gonna be carrying a fucking
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umbrella
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not unless it's a poison-tipped umbrella
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unless you replace your hands chopped
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off by the guy at the last immunity to
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save your life
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alright so you got your hand chopped off
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but somehow the poison blood of the
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zombies did not infect you yeah you
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haven't turned and now you can now you
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can take the umbrella to your hand and
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you become umbrella man's just like the
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guy the kennedy assassination
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why is he there you may be the zombie is
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coming anyway forget to bring an
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umbrella with a pretty sunny day to me
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haha maybe it's a situation where if you
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get infected with a cold the zombie gets
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right in your face but he can't smell
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you because they only want two kills
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well people em right now that's one just
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you know not to spoil anything but one
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common way to disguise yourself is to
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cover yourself with guts like zombie
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guts and then they have to one of them
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and you can you give some a poncho and
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you put zombie guts on you can walk
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around now you know again that poncho
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you would want something with wicking
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when performance characteristics you
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want machu picchu well and arc'teryx
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actually makes a zombie guts
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terex you know the name of course i do
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so arc'teryx is an rei grand they are a
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comedian super adventure tech brand em
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and they're getting Seattle like John
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Sherlock mm no no flu bug is longtime
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Seattle company arc'teryx eventually
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Canadian people things I know they are
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Jesus Christ check that out
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arc'teryx i think is made in bangladesh
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play and that was utilized for
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Bangladesh's you're gonna want some
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performance characteristics right and
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arc'teryx if you pick up one of those
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jackets that cost seven to 17 hundred
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dollars
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yeah it's like you become lighter the
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jacket is so light that that there's now
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like there's like a bounce in your step
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the the jacket is lifting you up off the
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earth it takes 20 pounds away but i
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cannot i cannot personally paid hundred
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dollars for a technical jacket so I have
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to go I have to longingly paw through
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those things i can't even justify the
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customer patagonia jacket which is only
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four hundred and fifty dollars
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yes to me it's like expensive wine where
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it's lost on me like you know it'sit's
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dropped bits like if i were to spend I
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mean you know you know it's a common
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thing people idiots like me say it's
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like you never seen a twenty dollar
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bottle of wine and a thousand-dollar
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bottle of wine a lot of money but like
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I'm not sure I would appreciate it that
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much more than say a forty dollar bottle
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of wine with my gender dollar jacket I
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go hey this is pretty nice like that
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since two-hundred-dollar jackets that
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are pretty nice right right but but you
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know 7702 seventeen hundred dollars is a
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lot for a particular it is and it's a
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lot for the thing about so i do not
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remember the first time I went to rei
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because i was going to rei when I was a
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little kit because my dad was like a
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very early member of rei and he knew all
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those people personally and like Jim
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Whittaker was I don't they weren't like
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pals but they were high five and white
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guys for sure like we would see jim
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whittaker and there'd be a lot of like
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high-five and joshan and so we were that
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was just they grew up in the rei kind of
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and then in Anchorage the rei was like
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it was almost a social place if you went
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there you were absolutely certain to run
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into one or seven people that you knew
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and you'd stand around to them and
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somebody was there for cross-country ski
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wax and somebody was there because they
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needed you know five new pairs of wool
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socks and somebody was there you know
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and i was there because i needed some
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kind of shoelaces or you know it was
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like where you went to sort of the
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general store and I and all my friends
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that was you know like keep it oh and
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they also have the they also had what
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was at one point called the Attic then
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it was the basement was the Attic again
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and re i had one of those nordstrom
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policies where you could return anything
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tho single-a Stefan clear-cut yeah you
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by somebody would buy a pair of
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rollerblades use them once break their
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arm bringing back was a pair of
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rollerblades that have been used once
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but it was like
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18 that cost so i mean in fact i got my
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first pair of rollerblades there is also
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my life
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ok alright alright it was the one pair
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of rollerblades I brand alright but I
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thought I was an early adopter i got
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these rollerblades pretty early on nice
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and and i enjoyed them but it was but it
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was very definitely a thing where it's
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like oh I am I going to use rollerplate
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yeah no I'm not is what it turned out
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but so anyway but there was absolutely
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was a moment where I started to feel
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alien in an rei and I and it was a
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devastating time because it's been such
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a like it was like I felt like such a
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family operation to a general store
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cooperative it is a co-op at heart right
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oh it out and still is you know they
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still send me a check at the end of the
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year around for my small portion of the
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profits and then you take check down to
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rei and spend it on stuff you know you
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get yourself a new headlamp like I have
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40 headlamps in this house because they
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never die and it's a it's like an easy
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christmas present back in back in the
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day like there'd be a bin by the can be
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a bit of them by the cash register and
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you go you don't like a headlamp for
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Christmas John Roderick that's where
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they be in the stockings and I never the
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thing is I never said I've already got a
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headlamp I was always thrilled to get a
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headlamp I should get a headlamp I'm
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like that with flashlights I've spent
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more on flashlights then I should every
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time I see a flashlight that's nicer
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brighter better made the 1i already have
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i'll pick it up and it sits in the did
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the two digit range it's not a always a
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cheap thing but last year for example
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we're trying to find a cat fight back
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behind our house without going shot for
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nothing just it bae that they it's
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called it's called the glide it's got
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its got a nice lumen heavy heavy lumens
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light plus you can slide it open and
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then you get a get a little lamp
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oh sure you and then you can hang it on
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sure but your campus they're badass
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magnet on the end so you stick on the
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refrigerator which my wife loves let me
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ask you this cazombi see light at night
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is that a threat or do they go to sleep
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at night or what are the only awaken
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right well no they are awake that there
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are some problems with science without
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you guys here to your townhouse at any
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point and close all the windows like
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yeah the the problem with the walkers is
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that especially when there's large
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numbers of them like they nuttin not
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there's not one of them that's going to
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figure out how to open your fence but
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when there's 1500 of them and they lean
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forward your fence goes down it's not
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that kind of situation will do they here
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and do here dancing and noise and use
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one another's bodies to climb up over
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big walls
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well as far as the dancing they
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definitely respond to sound they have
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used sound as a way to attract or dis
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distract Walker's at various times and
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that's what we can really you can screw
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somebody to play some live music there
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somebody want to get watered pro who
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yeah in your face
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I just walk toward you rules have
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changed my friend the rules have changed
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and you in the great in the in the
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Native American fashion from a herd of
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Walker's off a cliff
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oh let me style well that's that's that
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ends when I don't spoil it for you
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because you're saving these for prison
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and then Shakespeare chicken else after
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i presume i'll be in prison long enough
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to call for water please
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they tried that and you know it seems
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like there's always some smart talk that
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end up screwing things up at one point
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they were trying to like run mall into a
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pit that was you at one point but I took
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your topic be so sorry I for you and
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your family was a person if increasingly
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you felt you felt out of place there I
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felt this strange i would go in at
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wander around and what happened was all
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the all the technical fabrics I think
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aloud al1 also the the pressure to have
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new stuff every season it turned
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adventure gear into this thing that
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wasn't it was no longer in will exploit
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for I best I like what is a novel
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solution
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what's an inexpensive way to manufacture
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this while still maintaining
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the the sort of fun like false front
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that is super durable right its
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technical without being durable it's
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called they want i wanted to blow up on
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you they wanted to be they wanted to
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look like five years ago so you have to
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get a new one and i'm not saying this is
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this is rei generating this from within
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their cooperative heart I think it's
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just the it's just a pandemic of outdoor
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gear and and I'll tell you something I
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heard now this is third hand but i
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remember i had a friend of a friend and
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I heard from a friend of a friend who
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worked at the limited limited the the
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younger girls clothing store that was so
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popular community all things interesting
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yeah interesting uh that you know
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limited at the time anyway famously had
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a very permissive return policy which
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would allow you to bring in pretty much
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anything and exchange it I don't think
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they would give you cash but he would do
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an exchange now there's several
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interesting points here interesting
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point is I mean maybe setting aside the
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esprit stuff stuff that was very
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inexpensive to make and they charge
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quite a markup on it so they there was
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some wiggle room to be able to afford
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exchanges probably good to the wiggle
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that's how they get you but then here
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the other thing is what they discovered
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was turns out people who come in to do
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their free exchange haha put it to the
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man and a bunch of stuff along with it
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haha to the music goes around pretty
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soon everybody's wearing nothing but
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limited you're basically turning limited
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or wearing limited all the time right
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because they can't because yeah right
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there in there in the whole tell your
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underwater as they say I used to take my
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shoes back to the north from and get a
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new pair of shoes and then wear them out
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and then taken back to nordstrom because
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that I was poor and I was you know and I
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still there i was poor but I still felt
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like I shop at nordstrom yeah and I
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brought I finally brought a parent to a
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guy and he was a shoe salesman whose
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about my age and I was like yeah these
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shoes i just feel like my time to take
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him back you know what I'm saying and he
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looked at me was like I think you've
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gotten a lot
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you sound of these shoes don't you
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interested and he shamed me into taking
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those shoes and walk me out the door on
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and I was like oh my god that the the
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salad days are over
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uh-huh he didn't say no he just employed
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something much more effective than no
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yeah you can get you thinking
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yeah he knowed me in a way that I never
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did it again like I don't take anything
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back now if i buy something and it
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doesn't work for me I take it to the
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thrift store
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I let me ask you this if you're going to
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buy a house will have I wonder why I've
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never heard of this before but yeah if I
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were building a giant a McMansion right
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now where i was designing it instead of
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a panic room I would build a wiggle room
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why has nobody done this what has never
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even heard of the idea for a little room
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and I'm fascinated by a build a pumping
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wiggle room and then it first of all it
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gives you wiggle room says it says it
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right there on the 10 right and then who
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doesn't want a room where thats
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expressly the point of it right going
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there wiggle i love this idea
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yeah you got kids like God you kids
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going to wiggle wiggle wiggle room and
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wouldn't have to be that big just has
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been big enough to wiggle in well yeah
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but you want to be you'd want to be big
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enough for four you know if you needed
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wiggle room but also write on friday
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night you and the lady looking for
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something you know looking for a little
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bit of a strange go down to the wiggle
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oh man get your will put the tarp on the
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floor so what I'm saying is why is that
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not why why are people not just in every
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month here but why are you on boards you
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should get more boards you can help so
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many people with these ideas
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I mean you're pioneering this idea you
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want you want to get the monk holes in
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their you want to escape valves get
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secret walls of wiggle room
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I mean this is you this is just money on
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the table
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mommy on the day all so we suggest let
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me suggest a thing to you which is that
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within the sailing community
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which is it so sorry i didn't thing
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where they went from just sort of
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mountain alpine they expanded at 1.2
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prosumer goods right and this happened
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Eddie Bauer to eddie bauer became more
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and more prosumer until they just
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presumed that way right out of the pro
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and they just became Sumer rei still has
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enough pro you call him prosumer but
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there's a lot of sooner we get in there
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pro but within the sailing community
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which is you know a forgotten side of
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the adventure sport community you know
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that they go on some gnarly adventures
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one might say even getting on a sailboat
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begins an adventure because the cell
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could sink in anytime and then where are
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that's true but if you had a shipping
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container in the middle of the South
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Indian and motion putting idea what are
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you gonna do you're gonna you're gonna
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try and build your boat back but that's
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not gonna work on my ladies from sailing
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people ya say we are very very nautical
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my mom or my brothers-in-law installs
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high-end electronics into high-end
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seacraft so that could be your
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navigation system you know communication
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system often enough let's be honest it's
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an entertainment system but that's what
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he does and he's doing quite well with
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it is very nautical now when I met my
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wife she had was a helly hansen was at
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the name of it
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ya better pronounced helium civilians
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all ok larger see but that's that's also
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how they get you is a secret
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annunciation but she said she had a
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sailing jacket that she had inherited
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from her much-loved not inherited well
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as before he passed away but anyway she
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got her dad's old jacket which is in
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beautiful condition and that was really
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cool as ever let go to giant rain jacket
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and had a little thing we could like
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string a rope through it how cool is
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yep get that you have really learned
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yes it is spoon good grab good grab sits
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in that shirt red shirt it was fitted
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fitted shirt fitted shirt they don't
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make them like my dad's old furniture
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nope but so within so sailing is the
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place where I have found
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there is still just take you away it
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takes me but it does sailing takes me
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that's not a firearm paradise at least
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it's not for me and the wind it's listen
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when you see the Southern Cross Merlin
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yeah that's when you know
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yeah about how many times i have right
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yeah how have surprised the roads must a
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man walk down before he is a before he's
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a bad man behind blue yeah before he's
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reluctant to travel because it is a
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violation
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anyway I think about riding fences
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alcohol yeah so you go to you so you put
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in you put into the googs just something
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ok i'm out like sailing clothes sailing
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ok and you get this you get websites
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like apps limited VIP absolute
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absolutely west coast sailing sailing
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pro shop and then you go in then you
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start looking at jackets in there and
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almost some they're all these brands you
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never heard of you can and you go
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there's other brands that I never heard
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of in what I would consider to be the
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Outdoor Adventure Gear world
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wow there's this this this is these are
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some unusual designs because you're out
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there sailing and you're trying to you
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know when you come into the harbor
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you've got a whole different group of
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people that you're trying to communicate
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with bilo you're gonna rep different
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you're going to wrap a very different
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thing and if you're if you i'm sure
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there are people coming into Harbor in a
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in an arc teryx mhm but the sailors no
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oh you're trying to get trying to get
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away with the double duty here writing
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your work or you recently skiing like I
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wasn't skiing i was just sailing and
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that's why I'm wearing this Gil or Zeke
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or henri lloyd outfit is it a little bit
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like wearing a football jersey to a
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baseball game
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well it depends like how much do you
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want to
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how much do you want to culture jam how
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much are you see if you're not actually
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playing the game
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professionally and kisses that's enough
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that much but in San Francisco you show
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up in a in a jacket that that it is like
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sailing identifying them if you sailing
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identify yeah
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ninety-nine percent of the people out in
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there who are just two are just the
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cotan just writing code yes for
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computers and they're not gonna know the
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difference
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I gotta be honest with you I i said i
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don't recognize I don't read a lot of
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these as nautical where this is cool
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this is one here the Gilo as to ceiling
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jacket looks kinda like the colorful
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character Deadpool there's a lot of you
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get Nantucket shorts i guess that gives
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you like waterproof but but now honestly
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if I saw a lot of this would not
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necessarily read as a sailing gear to me
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right and there's looking just at the
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first pulldown menu
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hmmm you see you see things like shirts
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and rash guards rashguards now I don't
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think I don't think Aria Aria has a
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separate category for rash guards so and
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then over here this is an interesting
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combination sunglasses hats and me pads
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hmm like those are grouped together
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through the sunglasses have to me pants
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just keep the sleepwalking get to wear
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knee pads just FYI wilshire because
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you're in combat mode right and can hang
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on tires
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well you put yeah right you put together
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your own this is one of the great things
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about a post-apocalypse environment you
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get to build your own armor rightly
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that's true you get to build your own
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armor and it's a very it's a very sort
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of mad Mac see armor you're thrown
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together some some bits and bobs yeah it
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could be it could be made out of like
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old cans using a helmet made of a water
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bottle there's things hockey helmet is a
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good one oh my god John
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oh my god john i'm on apps ups lifted
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and it's got a pop-up will live chat
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from mike mike wants to say hello thank
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you for visiting can I help you in any
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oh my kids like he's like paper
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clippings oh my God he's like i fear
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writing a document would you like some
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I see you don't know whether to shit or
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go silent i seed yeah you're writing a
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letter of resignation
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hello i am closing out here because I
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want to talk to Mike and I don't like
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might be in there but no one's gonna
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close the window i'm still find me
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well he's there and he's like well gee
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all I wanted to do was help
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yeah that wasn't me that was kind of
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rude of me well it depends to Bailey did
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you did you allow them to leave cookies
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is my other problems i don't like
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talking about coupons I i had to deal
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with that the mall to but the whole
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separate issue and I just don't want to
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talk to people i don't want to know I
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don't want to know that this coupon is
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good today I don't want I don't want the
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coupon and then we're going to use the
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coupon I don't you talk to me about the
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coupon which you tell me you're gonna
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give me the coupon hang onto because I
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can still use it until februari 14 now
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do you have a barnes and noble
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membership card no I don't I don't
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well you know if we can sign up today
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and you can get a MasterCard oh yeah you
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know I just really what I want to do is
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be anywhere but talking about my coupon
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also a member of any loyalty
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organization
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yes which ones i technically i mean i
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have a safeway number but I don't use it
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much the only 1i use much is walgreens
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because it's on my watch which makes it
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easy to there twice a day there twice a
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day and it and it does sometimes it did
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I frequently when i'm buying something
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there will be something I am purchasing
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at walgreens that is at the rock bottom
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prices but i only get the discount if i
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use my watch
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yep yep and you is it a is it a is a
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bigger is a fob or is it to type in your
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well you can also enter your phone
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number which I'm not don't love doing
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but no you hold your watch up in the
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scan it
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yeah I don't know this game you want to
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John so you'll be anything you want to
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do that you think you want to have a
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watch people scan when you go to
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walgreens if you'd like that some kind
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of bob baum so but you don't have an rei
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number i do I just don't I don't have it
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with me and I'm not gonna make them my
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phone somewhere i think even a fob
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basically okay i can tell you i can take
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a look at my wallet i can tell you i got
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i got us not to be creepy
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I got a San Francisco Zoo card good i
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belong to the zoo you upgrade that every
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yes are we used to belong to the academy
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of sciences but that's super expensive
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how many there you and me yeah we have
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and I've been there now several times
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they have a shark
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they also all have a great aquarium they
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have a an albino alligator they're not
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allowed to take pictures up
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oh uh let's see we used to block that
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will degrade the paint on it over time
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absolutely that's how they get you i've
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also got I've got a library card that i
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use very very frequently good but also
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all i got several I've got several
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sandwich cards
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oh so you get punch cards for some
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calories in one place there's a place in
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my neighborhood where my daughter and I
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go couple three times a week and I've
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got five full cards at this point so I'm
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going to put the place out of business
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at some point
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yeah here you go I'm a party then I
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strongly sandwich with that with crab
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salad on it so there's not a single
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fucking I've this i'm just going to say
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this and that only we don't need to talk
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about it no it's not a single goddamn
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delhi in seattle model not a one
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there are places it is a diaspora John
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have they left wider Delhi's there are
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places that purport to be down as a god
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but whatever the study cute is like
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using mechanic is like a cute like
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DeLeon in like Eric where quotes kind of
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thing and now it's like it's like
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articles it's not cute at all it's like
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real authentic New York City delhi
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telling you walk angry angry tattoos
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guys with the sink stoppers in their
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yeah we're like this Kelly would do it
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new york-style you go there and you're
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like oh no one here has ever been to New
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York yeah because there is a new york
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style deli it is a wonderful thing and
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this is not it and loving it it's not in
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some simple ways that you could rectify
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in afternoon if you had ever been to New
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York or New at all but your whole foods
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pound-for-pound whole foods probably
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closer to New York Daily than a lot of
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that bullshit
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well I think it's true and you know
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Seattle you have a vibrant jewish
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community lived right in the center of
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town and now the the Orthodox community
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has moved south of town and they but
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somehow inexplicably they have not built
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any Delhi's down there and I think it's
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because Orthodox does something else
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they don't need they don't need to get a
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matzo soup in a neighborhood they just
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do I don't know where they're doing it
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out there his lungs there used to be a
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grocery store qfc ar-ar-ar premier brand
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Ryan I don't qfc with you there was a
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qfc that had a very large kosher section
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but then that qfc closed and the safeway
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picked up the slack and so the safeway
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if there's a safeway that has the that
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has a kosher section but it's also the
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safeway that is that that is the main
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safeway of the hood for lack of a better
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way of putting it and by that I mean
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everyone in the south end which is as
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you know America's most diverse ZIP code
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you live in the most no no don't be
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creepy about it but you live in the most
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diverse ZIP code in understates the
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americas most diverse ZIP codes so this
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seat is trying to be everything it's
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trying to be all things to all right and
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so you walk in and there's like 100 over
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here you got a Jewish deli over here
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they are no soup
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there's like a big I'll me not me
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there's a big pile that appear to just
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be menudo there's a bit like I don't
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know how you can have as many minutos as
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can be in a whole island at our safeway
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there is there's something like a deli
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which is mainly it's basically a step
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above a 7-eleven hot bar it's just
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basically uniformly golden brown food
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you know foods and like and like salads
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fuck that are I'll we've been out here i
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believe it's called international oh
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really so there's there's everything you
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need to know about America today but
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they didn't say foreign but the internet
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if you want something if you like if you
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are from anywhere in the continent of
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asia here 11 feet that might interest
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yeah or with a world where your pace
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picante sauce
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Oh international sit with the rideau
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yeah I do not be so I have a I have a
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couple of so I have a little bit of a
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advantage here because I'm joins every
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program
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every loyalty program oh ok
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there they are all coded into her phone
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number which i happen to know
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Oh beep boop right so if somebody's like
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oh you want to buy cupcakes these are
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ninety-nine percent off but only if you
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have a loyalty card I bee-boop her
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you're also doing a little bit of
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culture jamming I like this bandage if
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there's any benefit to a crew she can
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accrue it right you can use those points
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i was i'm i'm paying in I mean you know
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like I'm giving back but I don't have to
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deal with it now i don't know if you
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know i don't know if you know the great
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Dan Savage
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dan Savage has a you know we all try to
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compensate for our our lifestyles on the
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road we all try to do we all have habits
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will have little quirks dan Savage a
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very interesting thing which is he keeps
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every single key card from every hotel
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he station and because damn tours
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extensively doing his savage love shows
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and various you know he's a he does
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speaking he goes out with the it gets
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better' campaign he's been all over the
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world and he has collected a week's
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collected not just a stack of key cards
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but he had to then move over and and go
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to a second stack i approve this hobby
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this is an interesting hobby
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yeah it's a so he keeps a very small
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group of things that right on his mantle
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and it's just too enormous stacks of key
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cards and as you know from living at
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some point in your life in a keycard
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economy as soon as you leave the hotel
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you no longer you can no longer look at
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the keycard and and know anything about
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when you stayed there what it was about
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like today is just another marriott it
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yeah exactly it's just like it this is
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meaningless it has no dates on its it
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tells me not them now maybe if I had a
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key card reader i could put it in and it
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would say something about me know all
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that it does but as far as i know and a
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lot of our just blank it but he's kept
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them all and I think that it's admirable
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and it's just an exhibit just it's up on
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the the mantle and it's like that i love
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that it's like my grandpa was used to
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grab a a book of matches and then put
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the big brandy snifter on top of the TV
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like my dad had that exact collection
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and I inherited it
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oh now i have a giant urn of of nineteen
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seventies and sixties matchbooks which I
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cannot use because of course I chair you
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know like I treasure them
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yeah and so something like you got a
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match and I'm like nope sorry yeah
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you're amazing my ass
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yeah I have missed 11 and look at justin
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gets me from it's just mad when you've
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done all the time and now it never
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happened you're embracing my collapse
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you have a point particularly by a
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20,000 matters but yeah I got a match
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i also have a swivel dick you know
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remember your hearts cards are
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interesting because i'll bet you up that
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should they are
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I would be surprised if large hotel
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companies were not using that data for
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reasons
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oh yeah not that there's all kinds of
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interesting stuff that they could get
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out of that data I mean at the very
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least you can understand stuff I traffic
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patterns right you can understand that
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like oh you know this this person goes
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like this place where you gotta like run
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the card to get to the ice or whatever
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just basic traffic patterns because that
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affects their margins are so fucking
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thin on those hotels and they're cutting
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corners all the time and just just think
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about the basic optimization that seems
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to me that the most basic optimization
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and probably one of the biggest cost
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centers is turning rooms over with
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housekeeping etc right right so like
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that i'm only checkout guy every time
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late check-out i always ask but you know
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i mean for example you know you know
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they recently a lot of the places have
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taken many bars out of the rooms do you
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know why I'm grateful because i hate
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those things
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well here's why they do it because turns
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out it was more costly to maintain them
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in the aggregate the money that they
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were making so good it wasn't even
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apparently was even worth the labor of
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that guy coming knocking on your door
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1045 why the fuck are you check anymore
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but they're still here still there buddy
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so good all good what makes sense but
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you know there's a lot of data to clean
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now tell you another thing if you live
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in san francisco and you're like me get
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what's called a clipper card your
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clipper card clipper card is the thing
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that lets you basically put money on
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it and use it on all the different
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bahria transit things what a lot of
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people don't know is that you can go in
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and you're here history of like where
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you've traveled where you ran your card
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it's all in awe dog really i've done
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i've got to look at it because we have
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orca cards up here now because the work
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of course is the symbol of the Northwest
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yes and the orca card allows you to
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travel everywhere but there's a system
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apparently where you blew up your card
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and then i get i haven't read up on it
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but I guess when you get to where you're
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going you one blew up your card and I
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like on bart for example Bart's weird
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because I'd I still don't understand how
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this works or why this works i guess it
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makes sense because the nature of part
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is you pay for how many like how far you
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want how many fractions so you run bar
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you use part you with this is different
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from uni for people who don't know or
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care unit is the San Francisco one where
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if you're an honest citizen you run your
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card charges you two dollars and
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twenty-five cents and you can ride as
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much as you want for 90 minutes with
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with Bart you run your card and it
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doesn't charge it but then when you get
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off to get out of bart you have to run
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it again and that's when it takes the
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credit off your account right well sew
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up the way Seattle has decided their
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thing works is it's sort of like
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Amsterdam you get on and there's no
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turnstile you just go down and get on da
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touch and yeah if you if you are an
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honest person you blew up your car if
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you're not you just are a scofflaw and
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you ride it until some a security
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officer comes on and starts walking down
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the thing asking to see everybody's
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think and then he has a little handheld
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thing he blew up your car if it's if you
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haven't looped it then you're I don't
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know what you're in big trouble you
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gotta get somebody takes to get your
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Shakespeare but the thing about that
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this is true and amsterdam and it's true
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I'm i guess in the seattle thing is if
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you're watching and the train pulls in
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and you see because i think in Amsterdam
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at least a different they have their
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they have five enforcement officers if
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the trains that day have five doors and
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so the train pulls up in there and a
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person gets on each door oh IC but they
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don't check the people who are getting
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off at that stop
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also you just you just wait it out yeah
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youyou look for him and if you pull up
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to a train in there they're like all the
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all the scofflaws all like this is my
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stop and then they're free and so it's
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only grabbing the scofflaws who are
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paying attention i don't know how it
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works in Seattle because I've never seen
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one of these guys get on but I'll I'm a
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law-abiding citizen I want to do the
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thing I brought my card I feel terrible
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I feel terrible if for some reason like
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I so dumb the two things I sweat are the
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library and muni I feel so guilty
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because I have a car for me in a car for
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my daughter I pay full adult fare for my
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daughter because I can't be bothered to
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go and buy a kid's card downtown and so
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it's cost us five dollars each time we
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ride the train no big but sometimes you
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just know how kind and I did you wrong
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with you wrong well it's that means like
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we ran out of credit and I didn't
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realize it and i forgot to add more to
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it and I'm like God's I'm scurrying to
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the front of the train to go pay cash
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just like I feel so guilty when i do it
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no you don't want to be that guy but so
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I never on boob and I guess what that
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means is i pay full fare to go
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everywhere interesting it's like parking
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it's like you know if you leave your car
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there they just assume that yeah exactly
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yeah to assume you've been there the
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whole time you know i mean right to
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judge the whole month or pay the maximum
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charge yeah so so I haven't quite
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figured out the orca card and i'm
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guessing that if I went and looked at my
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history it would just say every time you
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get on the train you go all with the end
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interesting well there was a movement
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while back to go back to your membership
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cards there was a movement a while back
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people saying hey look you really have
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safeway parties where people would go
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and it's just an excuse for you might
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just be everybody a table at a bar but
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everybody would swap safeway cards
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why'd ya every time you meet a friend
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you swap safely cards
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why because the discount is identical it
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screws with their chronic graphics and
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data gather and I right culture jamming
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culture jam because the thing is you go
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all you know this is this
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this 22 year old woman is suddenly
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buying a lot more organic products and
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vitamins right uh-huh sure thing and so
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this is that means she's gonna have a
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baby and like so now you're into what's
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called chronic graphics which is once
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you're able to figure out how old
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somebody isn't what they do you can
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tailor many things to them and then at
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walgreens that give you a goddamn coupon
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coupons i get the coupons i get i buy i
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buy claritin and they gave me a coupon
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for claritin yeah sure people who bought
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this also bought Claire people who
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bought a clock also bought three clocks
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but here's what I'm worried about
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why would I want to start getting
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special offers for being pregnant
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here's the thing it's a lot like tour
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you gotta ask yourself I don't know what
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or is but if I did I would say the
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tour is the onion that's right Joe Biden
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and so the the thing is though you gotta
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ask yourself well you know yeah maybe
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it's going to cover up you know whatever
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it is that I'm doing but remember your
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IP is also being used for whatever
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somebody else is doing
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yeah exactly you get your hands right
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dance his guards it is my beautiful
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that's right how did I get here ok so i
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get the culture jamming yes aspect of it
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I so basically culture jam jam style who
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the when i go to the supermarket
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basically the supermarket is receiving
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from an 82 year old woman who goes to
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the grocery store or the or the
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drugstore every single bank and buys
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things because my mom is a you know
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she's not not a normal old lady right
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she's buying like like I who knows what
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she box frankly and then I go go in
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there and typically the only things i
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buy anywhere are a chocolate cake edible
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and cream for my coffee right again half
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and half a piece of chocolate cake and
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so they've got to be like this little
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old lady first of all she's up at five
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yep because she's at the store of the
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day it opened the moment it opens to buy
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itouch Brett's I don't know what she's
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buying sure little little thing she
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likes to go
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she's like old-school she likes to go to
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the store every day kinda like you and
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then generally at eleven-forty-five 15
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minutes before the store closes she
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comes back and bi's chocolate cake and
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half-and-half yeah like what are we to
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make of this how do we tailor how do we
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tailor the circular you gotta yeah how
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to shape the algorithm right you think
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everyone just like pull the tape on that
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and go look and see what's going on
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it's all you know oh oh my god you're
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gonna love this
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my mom called a phone tree the other day
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she called the place
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oh you know what it was it was a the
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printer printer stop work ok and so she
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called the helpline and she made it
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through the phone tree and she put in
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her you know her home address or social
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security number
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not really she didn't put in your social
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security number I've told her not to do
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that but she put in the number on the
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printer and all this stuff and then
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finally she got somebody who had never
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heard of her and need her to tell them
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all that information has and then she
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talk to that person for 20 minutes
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person was like struggling to solve the
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problem and then they got cut off
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Oh God back right it's all the thing
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back and the first voice came on hello
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welcome to epson and she yelled into the
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phone i just spent 70 minutes talking to
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your person and I did you know and it
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according to her clicked immediately to
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an operator well and so she was we were
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driving in the car and she was she was
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thinking about what had happened because
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she felt like she had discovered a hack
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if you if you yell at the phone it will
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understand and it will take you
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immediately to an operator what she
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couldn't die either i've i've done this
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house on right now yeah because it used
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to be time so i cut off your story
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please go ahead
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well she couldn't decide she was toying
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with two options did the did the
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algorithm understand her words did the
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algorithm understand her tone I think
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it's purely volume try this next time
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this happens to you so used to be in the
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nineties if you're a smart cookie new
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knew a thing which is in an early days
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of phone trees everybody eventually
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learned if you just keep your kids 0
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over and over and over and eventually
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we'll go through well now remember your
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options have recently changed something
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I haven't done this in a while because I
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don't call that I can't be helped i
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won't call places anymore but now I
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don't say the word but if you just
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scream the f-word repeatedly whoa i
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don't know i'm suddenly so careful about
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this no way real green the f word over
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and over in your but it'll cut over to a
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operator justjust fun try it
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collapse and collapse and see if it
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works just for fun now you probably
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could be yelling tom bombadil and it
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would take you any way I don't know
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right well the door tom bombadil would
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show up which will be cool
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troublemaker John it's hard to know
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ok he may be the oldest living thing
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maybe the personification of of of
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oh my goodness but there is some
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suggestion that he's older than the
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Rings older than the oldest elves
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Wow and that he has chosen be pretty
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precedes the ring he precedes the be
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precedes at all room and he's chosen to
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live you know self constrained on this
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little plot on the town the oldest of
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the old the most ancient and so if i
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could conjure him and he'd show up here
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at my house and I do like Tom I'm god I
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can't find my computer
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and and tom bombadil he never seems to
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get bored right tom bombadil never see
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all the photos of him he looks like he's
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doing a little dance looks very jolly
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yeah he's you know what he's bored by
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the ring which has no effect on it
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oh interesting idea takes the ring BB is
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messes with it for a while you fools
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with it and he's like board gives it
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value the one thing that everybody else
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is obsessed with the he's bored by the
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register so i feel so here's my question
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dan Savage style do you think there is
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anyone listening to our program that has
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kept every fob like I'm other room keys
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know not everyone will like the room
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keys but it's not room keys it's fobs so
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like donkeys like when you go to a
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library in your library card you get a
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normal-sized like whatever that is for
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by to whatever standard credit
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card-sized goes into the wall trying to
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get that and then you get a little thing
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like your gym membership thing that's
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running a farm like the little guy yeah
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the little one that's supposed to go on
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your keychain
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yeah is there someone out there who just
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their own little peccadilloes they carry
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around the keyring with all of the
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little oh IC ok so you're saying is
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there anybody in our audience who gets
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the fob uses the fob keeps using the fob
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and they just get a big-ass keychain
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full of fobs keychain fob now that's one
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spin doctors record because you see
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right people that and I don't remember
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you know I've seen there's a key culture
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we've talked about this there's a table
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filter the the 900 keys on their key
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ring who um but there's got him now be a
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culture mhm right because i keep getting
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at and i'm not even talking about
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let's leave aside the ones that you get
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from walgreens that are a little paper
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thing on your keychain people keep
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giving me fobs that actually are the
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size and shape of a cookie like an
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actual like keyboards cookie-like
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keebler elf who are still younger than
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tom bombadil and they are they
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because they're elves not dwarves right
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are the dwarves little people don't want
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to talk about the ones that live in a
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tree when they come and they called an
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elves but they don't look like what
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we've come to believe elves look like
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no they're not like we're closer to what
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we would think i think is a tour right
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with the hat they have the Hat
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yeah LOL jobs i think of as being those
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elegant creatures that look like the guy
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from the matrix sure you know exactly
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where that outrageous that actress with
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the father and Aerosmith like isn't she
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I think she's an elf yeah what about
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Claire Danes you know she had wings in
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that soul asylum video on Homeland
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I don't know that's a really good
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question remember she can't angel wings
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in that time that video
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oh no I stopped watching your errand
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arrow a Smith was after a while you know
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what's the one the one the be not Claire
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Danes but the but the one chance
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keep pushing yeah keep winching yeah I
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think she's an elf and then you get the
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name is Hugo Weaving he's the guy who is
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V for Vendetta
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there's also the agent the sunglasses in
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the jello movie do you know what he you
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know what I learned he was the v for
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vendetta i was i was very I was that it
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could have been a better guy because boy
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what an emotive performance you know
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what I heard I heard that was actually I
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heard that they attempted very briefly
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I'm just repeating something her on a
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podcast but I heard the attempted very
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briefly to have a stand him for him and
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having just do the voice but I've heard
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pretty much that whole movie is that
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actor in a mask
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yes and it's his performance is amazing
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i really like that movie
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yeah it would have to it would have to
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be him because you couldn't duplicate
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that kind of body
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language yeah that amount of sensitivity
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to to the physicality of that role of
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guys on the internet I i really think
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that's how they look
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Orson a white lady a lot of lot of the
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glove gracious gestures words
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yeah jukebox swords and sorcery these
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big sorcery who could be i've been to
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actual in oregon i know how much sorcery
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there is i thought what about that place
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in Arizona was called fredonia was no
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that place that's got like crystal
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energy what's called sits in sedona so
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that we don't you
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babilona Arizona public persona got to
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meet a stoner but this
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well there's that place north joshua
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tree with be a giant pyramid made out of
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copper tubing know what yeah I've been
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to Twentynine Palms well on your Marines
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we were talking about this which I
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talked about this with your family
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twentynine palms together nice
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aspiration gonna stay there now it's
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very interesting it's got a lot of
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military training and hippies
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yeah yeah um I how the trip go by the
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way they have fun at Joshua Tree
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I think everyone had fun i don't think
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they went to joshua tree that's partly
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why they had fun i think they stayed in
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Palm Springs the entire tunnel
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interesting and but I recently was
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looking at real estate in Joshua Tree
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okay and here's what's confusing
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here's what's confusing about buying a
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vacation home in joshua tree but they're
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there so you go you go on you go on your
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whatever your real estate your favorite
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real estate any interest in or an
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Anglophile yeah SAR has better worker
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stands yep and you go on there and you
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put in Joshua Tree a vacation home or
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joshua tree home real estate and up pops
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a lot of things and you can buy 50 acres
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in joshua tree for five thousand dollars
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or you can buy 50 acres in joshua tree
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for a million-dollar
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and location location location right i'm
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looking at 24 pictures of both plots of
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land bearing indistinguishable as far as
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I can see there's no water on either one
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of them there is nothing green on either
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one of them they look like the surface
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of Mars and as far as i can tell both of
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them have manufactured homes situated on
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them with enough parking for 40 vehicles
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and you go
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he helped I five-thousand-dollar ones
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that sound right but i don't know like I
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guess you who unlike almost every other
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place you really would need to go to
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Joshua Tree forget a local by the short
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hairs and walking out there and say why
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is this 15 thousand that one is a
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million and then they are going to say
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oh the five-thousand-dollar one is
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haunted by the ghosts of our ancestors
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and the million-dollar one is where its
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lower the ancestors had wriggled is good
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AT&T coverage there
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sure that might be a to write to get
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length if you're going to build a house
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in joshua tree like here in Seattle you
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buy a lot you get a bulldozer in there
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you flatten out the dirt
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maybe you dig a hole bill that yeah
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there you would have to use dynamite
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okay Ronnie yeah just like lobby right
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you would have to use dynamite just to
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clear a space for the bulldozer work so
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so I I got pretty close to abandoning
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the whole idea of a vacation home in
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joshua tree in one session one session i
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was confused in one session of looking i
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was confused enough that I felt like if
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i'm going to go to joshua tree for
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vacation i'm just going to Aaron BB a
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place you know you could learn more but
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I think you're talking about something
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that's just smart in general you know
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that old line about like if you don't
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know who that the asshole is it to you
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you don't have a customer is it to you
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if you don't know who the product is its
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you through is same here like you know
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in a case like that we like wait a
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minute will be aware of situations where
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you know less than any other person
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involved that can be a very costly
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decision
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yep oh sure right you don't want to be
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the one that's like you know what I got
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this all this seems this seems nice
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where bird nearest
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I mean there's a there's a grocery store
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and you like huh
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but you don't know about the haunting
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yeah what about the haunting you didn't
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think about the haunting could be like
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that place that the FBI keeps busting
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because they think all the terrorist
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cell phones are there to hear about well
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is that out in eastern oregon there was
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a place i forget where but there was
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this big mystery about this one location
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nobody can figure out why this this nice
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little normal hipster couple lived in
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this house and like all they kept
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getting raided by different places where
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they getting docked by fortran I don't
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know because bad feels like a good docs
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yeah this house this hipster house is
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full of terrors
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I'm just saying beware of real estate
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agents bearing gifts on saying well sure
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because you know there's another rule of
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thumb least him at least in these rainy
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con yeah don't buy the lowest house boy
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right do not buy the geographically
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lowest this is the joke John and it's
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not even that funny once you understand
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why it's a joke better because all you
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know what is it what is it tornadoes
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have against mobile home
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haha well what tornadoes having its
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mobile homes is they're built in the
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cheapest lowest-lying place in the
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entire community which is always wiped
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out by tornadoes hahaha whether hates
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poor people do people keep their
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stupidness near the stupid tornado I we
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had a similar thing in in Anchorage
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which is there's a there's a gap in the
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mountains outside of Anchorage that is
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basically a giant wind tunnel that
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funnels all wind tunnels the entire wind
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all the wind every bit of the wind it
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funnels down through this valley and the
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valley is pointed like a blunderbuss at
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a certain neighborhood of Seattle called
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Muldoon and Muldoon is a place where a
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where their trailer home parks and what
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the wind really gets cooking which it
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does every you know it's like a hundred
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years storm that happens every eight
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the wind comes down that blunderbuss and
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the thing about it is it's the gap in
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the mountains is not straight on like if
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you're standing in Anchorage you look up
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the mountains you don't see a valley
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pointed at you
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okay it's coming at you at an angle so
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the mountains just looked like a kind of
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contiguous mountain range with lots of
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interesting sort of depth to it but
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somewhere up there there's a spot that
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if you look at it from the side
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wow you can see all the way up to where
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the wind limbs em this thing sheets that
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wind down there and we'll pick up a
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mobile home and just take it just take
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them or you'll never see it again as it
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tested negative things that come out of
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nowhere
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uh well they there so there are what
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they call sustained gusts and for me
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that seems to be like contradiction in
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terms of her a gust is like by
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definition not sustained sustained gusts
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which is like at a certain point you get
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these hurricane-force winds and they're
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just picking up trailer homes and they
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are destroying them like flapping them
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like matchsticks and also taking them up
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to the sky where you never to be seen
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again taking them up and the yapping
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dogs inside and gone forever
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yeah and it's the same thing like why do
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they keep why does the wind hate the
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trailer home like well those are the
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only things that get built in that area
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probably be for this very same reason
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tornado alley huh wind wind killer zone
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when he doesn't just persistent guess I
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was sharing some of your wisdom with my
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daughter just last week this thing you
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taught me about learning to look at the
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look at the land like where people
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decided to settle in like why they
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settled there and like notice how often
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it's like near a body of water that
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could be used for shipping or it's not
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on the top of a mountain because it
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would be hard to build a house there and
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this is a good place for a railroad I
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still think about that all the time
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yeah right to get you wired why why is
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it there on the river well because
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that's the place that you could cross
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the river and everywhere else on that
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River it would be much harder to cross
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it and also that's the place where the
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waters running fastest where we can
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the wheel and use it for power must have
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tried to teach me this in school you
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no i don't i don't think so i don't
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think this is the type of business and
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friendship thing I feel like some some
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bleeding-heart liberal in the seventies
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must have occurred to them to go
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you ever wonder why Cincinnati's built
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on what we call the Ohio River hmm i
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don't think so i think they were so busy
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saying now what what year was the war of
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yeah right that they didn't you know
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they're just trying to take off boxes
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and they're not sitting there saying
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let's think about this let's go and take
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a look and see and and dream
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let's dream mm-hmm the hippie teachers
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didn't have the kind of the the
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wherewithal that's a set just didn't
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have permission to dream they didn't
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have permission to dream in fact their
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dreams their dreams did not become
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reality their dreams were thwarted and
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capped and I don't think I think what
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we've lost now is even the knowledge
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that there once were dream
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oh my goodness right nobody's going into
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the schools and say why is Cincinnati
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built on the Ohio River
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mar you know it wasn't called Cincinnati
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or the Ohio River at one point nope nope
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nope nope we what we got three naming
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rights agency park 4a state but you know
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when people are coming into a turf we're
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coming in and taking a territory away
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from somebody that might have been
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already there huh
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they're not taking away that you're not
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bouncing them off of their territory
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that they spent 900 years figuring out
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was the best and then building something
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a mile and a half away just to be
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different
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huh they're bouncing off the best land
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and then they're building their thing
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they're very nice
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well you know that's not they weren't
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thinking in terms of nice
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no but what's the big here let me
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quickly let me query yes it does matter
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yes what's the big diagonal street in
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Cincinnati that is a major thoroughfare
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but appears to not conform to the grid
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hell cheese I don't know I wasn't there
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when i was driving age we live in a
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northwest part of town mostly so I mean
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I've been downtown a lot we drive by
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downtown a lot but i'm not sure i don't
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think i know the answer to that any
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their version of market street basically
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typically in a city there
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is a generally going to be 1 and this is
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you know starts in the old part of
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terror and one street that doesn't does
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not conform to the grid that's a major
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that's like--that's at the ER road
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yeah that's the indian trail ok right
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that's the one that that they built the
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road right along the indian trail
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because that was obviously the best
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route is likewise a drive right it's
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like Chief lacquer probably done right
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wacker drive here and then they build
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the town up around it and somebody comes
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along like we need to put this town into
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a grid but we can't do that to wacker
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road because hair hair wacker the
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original chief of this area
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yeah really original illinoisians yeah
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like all the buildings are on that road
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already but we're going to build a grid
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around it and then this roads going to
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be either the shortcut or the confounded
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inconsiderate road that would be market
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street for us
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yeah yeah yeah what is that what is that
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in Seattle you have one of those
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well so there's so Seattle is very
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confusingly built the following way one
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of the early so the early settlers came
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and they all they all claimed a sort of
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well a claim of a certain portion of
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what became downtown seattle and one
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person thought that the roads should be
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parallel to the water
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uh-huh which made sense right first
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avenue second Avenue third Avenue as
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they come up from the water because the
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water there was a a assure that was
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fairly even that short does not point
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north-south it is sort of northwest by
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southeast but this the streets downtown
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are parallel to that Coast that was one
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guy's idea and then another person
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thought that the street should be
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oriented true north south so he started
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building on his claim
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north south and then a third person
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thought that their roads should just be
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built according to their own with half
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way and there might even have been a
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fourth person that thought that the road
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should go according to the the ridgeline
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of the of the hill one he'll back and so
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when they finally get through
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everybody's got their own program here
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and so when the city grew up enough that
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these areas needed to be connected
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nobody said alright we're going to tear
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down your whole neighborhood and rebuild
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it because this is dumb
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they just connected at all and so if you
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look at an overhead map of Seattle you
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will see that the streets go every which
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way it's like a it's like a broken
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window or if you gave LSD to a spider
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and I don't know if you've ever given
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alicito spider-boy i think i remember
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seeing photos of LSD spider webs in
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health class
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yeah well they were basically every one
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of them at Seattle em but the main so
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the main thoroughfares are a demi which
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goes all the way up and over and down
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and that of course is named after mr.
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Demi is area that was and then there's
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born which goes the other way
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cattywampus canoodle over this way and
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that's named after mr. Bourne and uh you
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know then you had James which is named
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after mr. James and yesler named after
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mr. yesler and there are consistent in
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the naming if not on the implementation
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right they're all going their own way
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they can go their own way hm
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good call there all day that's right and
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it makes it if you know what you're
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doing in seattle you can go from a demi
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to born to yesler and you get there get
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there a lot faster take Danny to born
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born to us left over
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you don't know what you're doing and you
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think that you just will drive down this
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one street that has a number and it will
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take you to somewhere else
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you're a fool because you will not get
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there get there right you'll end up
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until somebody until somehow you get
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funneled down to born meant yesler but
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when I sort incurred averaged a chance
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right but i think you know like it in
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the New York City you're gonna get your
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Broadway that goes from together to from
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heather to do that either right
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Broadway's out batteries down
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that's right well yet the idea
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well it wasn't what I know from New York
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I've learned from musicals yeah the
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Bronx is up in the battery's down okay
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which one of my the year the bronx ok
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you know I went I went finally on a tour
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a self-guided tour of of the bronx
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proper oh nice trick just a couple
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months ago i was there i was given a
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tour of New York to my lady friend my
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millennial girlfriend down driving
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around and we were coming back from
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somewhere up north coming back from
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Poughkeepsie or something and i was like
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even down here over here off the freeway
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here you'll see the bronx and i started
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giving Korea a description of the
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history of the Bronx Bronx has gotta a
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long and storied history and fort apache
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there in the bronx fort apache the bronx
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and she said well I want to see the
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bronx and i was like oh well generally
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you don't see the bronx generally just
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refer to the bronx you point to the
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bronx on a map or you look at the Bronx
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as you go over it on the freeway and she
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said why I would prefer to get off the
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freeway and see the bronx i said i said
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this will be fun and we got down on the
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freeway and we drove around the bronx
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all night long and it was extraordinary
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really a lot going on in the bronx and
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you wouldn't know it by looking at it on
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you have to be down there on the streets
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of the Bronx looking at it and yeah so I
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learned a new thing
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well I learned two things listen to what
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my little girlfriend sense
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yeah and also then go to the Bronx
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definitely changing the way that wine is
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they also changing their also changing
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our idea of how we interact with the
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bronx right right then we have a lot to
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thank the Millennials social for
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millenniums yeah and and I'm learning
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every day every single day
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did you you look at it that way you look
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at it as a learning experience well you
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gotta look at it somehow and you know
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after four after 40 different people
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wrote me emails telling me not to use
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the term Bernie bro because it's racist
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20 bases against him Bernie bros tony
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hill by the way BTW they don't do not
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exist btdubs so it's it's a racist white
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yeah Bernie bros who are who don't exist
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but its equivalent to races are all its
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equivalent to radio so that's everything
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now that hurts your feelings is
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equivalent to racism this is another
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thing that I learned from millenniums we
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switch this generations racism with
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soldiers crystals tonight
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hey never asks for another cup of my
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racism for Bernie Americans
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