The Talk Show

00:00:00 ◼   ► we had a very fun interaction earlier [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► today I i find one of the ways I mean [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► clearly overall i'm rocking at light [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► speed towards crotchety old man status [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► I mean there's no doubt about it i mean [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► you know I i can't remember i watch [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► saturday night live every week I don't [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► remember the last time I've ever heard [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► of the musical guest musical guest [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► I mean I who was the music who is [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► already forgotten he's already another [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► sign right but you sure [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► short-term memory but there are a [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► handful of ways where I feel like hey [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► see I've still got it i'm with the kids [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► and one of them is is I keep using emoji [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► more and more and ice [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► I don't know yeah there's anything i [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► went to iOS add the feature where where [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► the auto suggestions above the keyboard [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► include emoji I think that's iOS 10 like [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► it just came out like five months ago [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► right but i've been using in the summer [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► on beta so I i've been using it for [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► seven or eight months at least I have to [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► say I never really noticed that and I [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► think part of it is I never used those [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► auto suggestion I should just close that [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► and take the space back it's like I'm [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► looking at the keyboard while i type and [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► me looking at the keyboard light means i [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► don't see anything above the keyboard so [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► I never use those and I'll men people [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► who do do type faster you know like and [TS]

00:01:23 ◼   ► it does seem when I when I do pay [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► attention to it seems like the [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► suggestions are sometimes amazing where [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► you can type a fairly long word and it [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► guesses you know you type like a or you [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► have a few words and I guess is when [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► right right like you type a you and [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► somehow it guesses that you wanted to [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► type the word authorized because of you [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► know like the context of where it is [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► it's like wow you can really save a lot [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► of thumbtacks by just a you and then [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► Auto considered anyway I noticed I've [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► your your to have that I'm starting to [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► notice those emoji that pop up as a [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► suggestion and so I sent one to you as [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► to [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► and I said the word think and when you [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► type the word think there's like a [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► little like thought cloud with a thing [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► and you said you said it looks more like [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► a fart than a than a thought and I [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► thought well I've got to use that [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► immediately and within like 10 seconds [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► of paging through what can i connect the [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► fart emoji to i found a the poodle the [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► dog a dog emoji and it's even pointing [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► the right way where the little the [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► little dot of the puffy cloud is coming [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► from the doc you should I Hannah you [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► should get that into the show notes i [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► have been the number that you you have a [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► big white book little i do yeah i know [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► that's the great thing about that is [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► like I mean he's not he's night [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► thank God you know this is an argument [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► early on we got the time with my wife [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► was like you know we're getting a poodle [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► I wanted to be cut like a regular dog [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► and I want to have a cut like first I [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► wanted to be a big I wanted to be a big [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► pool I didn't want some tiny little like [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► he kept you know think that's like [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► shaking all the time so that was number [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► one number two is like I can't have him [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► cut like fancy show cool so he's mostly [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► cut like a regular dog he's got he's got [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► kind of like a poofy head and and and [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► usually as tails a little bushy but for [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► the rest the rest this is a is usually [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► is usually fairly straightforward dog [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► cut so so he doesn't look exactly like [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► that but he is he is white and and yeah [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► so it's kind of it's kind of perfect it [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► is actually the emoji is actually named [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► poodle it's i don't know why i don't [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► know why the poodles among all dogs [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► deserve their own emoji like like what [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► gets an emoji and what doesn't [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► is sometimes so bizarrely mhm requires [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► pool yeah its own thing it how many [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► other there must be other dogs there i'm [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► looking i typed dog and there's one that [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► there's one that's just dog it's just a [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► generic dog and then there's poodle and [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► i think that's it [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► oh and then there's also dogs case [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► there's also dog face of the others the [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► others asses [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► poodles are great dogs I i do not have a [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► dog [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► uh this is a conversation that [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► occasionally comes up in and the grouper [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► household of whether or not we should [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► get a dog [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► my belief is that we travel too much and [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► that that that and we don't have any [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► kind of friends or family we live who [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► live in here is by design and so you [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► know it would be like a candle situation [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► several times a year and I just feel [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► like I don't feel like that's good for [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► the dog and I mean I know that like that [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► candles are a little different than they [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► used to be i think that there's Wi-Fi a [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► little bit more like camp [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► yeah applause yeah so that that's good [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► you know like when we were kids I mean [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► like when people had to put the dogs in [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► a kennel they just put a mic in a cage [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► like a look [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► yeah let's little yeah you buy for cage [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► that's that's that's terrible [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► yeah yeah I know he and you for a while [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► he was going to make everyone like when [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► we got done swimming get desperate he's [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► gone to this place that has like they [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► sleep in cages but then during the day [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► it's a doggy daycare thing so he's out [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► running around with a whole bunch of [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► other dogs and like up in a big room [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► which is I think kind of fun for him [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► although he doesn't I don't think he [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► likes staying outside the house [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► I think he gets anxiety about that so he [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► now we have this is a big daughter of [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► someone that carries to work with and [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► her boyfriend come and stay and I don't [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► think the daughter likes grant very much [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► put the boyfriend loves great so they [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► take they have it they apparently have a [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► great time together and they're they're [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► coming back to the next time ago and so [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► they've only done that once before but [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► we were gone for like two weeks so you [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► know I think so there's I think this is [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► a shiba inu as if i'm not mistaken [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► so there's there's poodle and then [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► they're Sheba you have it but when you [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► hover over it just says dog so they [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► might have that might be safe okay well [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► yeah but I mean it's the Japanese yam so [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► so it makes sense that would [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► that would be the look what's your dog's [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► name again we shouldn't just program [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► grants like like ulysses s like you [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► lousy am I love a poodle [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► it was one of everything we were to get [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► a dog that people would be on the short [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► list you know you never hear about [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► people when you're somebody has a pulley [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► you never hear well that's a miserable [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► angry dog that's true that's true he's [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► pretty good nature [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► I mean he barks like crazy it you know [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► anything that goes down the street but [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► he's he's good with us like I mean that [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► you know and the the kid the kids not [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► bad now but when he was a younger you [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► know upp rough and and he's never he's [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► never bitten maybe had a poodle with [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► growing up named andy he was a good [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► he was a really good dog and he lived a [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► very light so among the things that I [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► like about poodles they have good [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► dispositions they do not shed [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► ahh bra in there they're hypoallergenic [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► that's that's the real really needed to [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► get a poodle's cameras yeah and even but [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► even if you're not allergic [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► it's like that's the stuff that people [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► are allergic to it you know kind of [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► smell my minute [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► yeah I and you know the hair thing is [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► the drive me nuts so good disposition [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► and they live a long time [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► there there a long living breed i have a [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► friend a friend from college who has a [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► well I actually guess at this point has [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► been so long has had a series of Great [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► Danes with his wife and family [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► oh yeah and they have great danes [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► they're beautiful dogs I mean they're [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► magnificent I mean but you know they're [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► also to me terrifying because if they [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► stood up they'd be like a treat hall but [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► but they're apparently so yeah sure [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► there's absolutely that's what he says [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► when we've talked about it that they are [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► you know they you know where they really [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► are like Marmaduke [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► yeah they only have like six years it's [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► it's like heartbreaking signing up for [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► like a series of us to constant series [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► Family heartbreak where ya workin right [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► where the dog is magnificent as a great [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► disposition is truly part of the family [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► and then he's gone [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► karen was at the at the vet with Grant [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► one time and there was a woman there [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► with a great dane and the the dog was [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► just you know was completely a wreck [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► because he wasn't even knew it was at [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► the veteran like you know it was totally [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► nervous and so he was [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► hey he was sitting on her lap but [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► because because his front legs were so [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► long he had his front legs on the floor [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► was butter but what if you could just [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► like you know he was shivering because [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► he was terror I maybe had a pool and he [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► live and candy was i I swear to God I [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► think he might have been like 18 when he [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► died which is yeah i mean at least 17 it [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► was really a long time and he was like [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► stone called death for the last few [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► years and but but it wasn't as though he [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► could still imagine sounds and so like [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► you'd be sleeping and there was this [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► service is so it was just great it was [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► great dog it all life and it was great [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► and old age but you know II there was a [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► vent near the the family like imac to [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► the side I event in the floor and that [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► was like his spot because he just get [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► that soak up the heat and everyone you [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► know you just snap out of his sleep [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► because he liked dreams out and go [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► roaring toward the door like a young dog [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► barking up a storm [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► you know like maybe he imagined the [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► mailman was there you know but there was [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► no longer any correlation between the [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► mailman actually coming in when he would [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► not have no idea man i had a dog growing [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► up it was a we got from we just saw like [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► an ad in the paper and just took like [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► not really a rescue dog but just some [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► and I no woman had literally like a [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► trailer park [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► Chester i love the son-of-a-bitch [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► but he was he was really nasty he was it [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► was it was a supposedly about [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► three-quarters poodle and one-quarter [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► Pekinese I think the nasty part came [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► from the kinds you get it does get Karen [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► Karen Pekinese growing up and she would [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► get she said you got better all the time [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► they were just buy a condo Chester [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► Chester would you sort of built more [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► like a poodle [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► I did not shed but he didn't his hair [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► was curly ish but not you know like [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► poodle tight curls black-and-white and [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► he had a terrible underbite I was is not [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► for mode not from good breeding but i [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► love this son-of-a-bitch when he was in [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► a good mood here is the greatest dog and [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► he was kind of smart and then winter [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► ways to put t-shirts on him we would [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► just buy like like a like a a you know [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► Scott Sizemore's a toddler cut out a [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► little bit for the PN at the belly and [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► then put it on backwards so that the [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► logo would be on his back and he used to [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► love wearing shirts and you could just [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► say Chandi go get your shirt and he [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► would he it was as though you said [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► chetty i'm going to give you a hamburger [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► you know like he would he would like [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► light up and he'd go tearing to where we [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► kept his shirt get it and then bring it [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► to you [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► well he could be so smart but then [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► another thing he would like to do is he [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► would like to crawl under any of our [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► sofas and just stay there for hours at a [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► time and if your feet got near meet snap [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► at him I swear to god swear to god he'd [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► stay under for three or four hours [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► Danny and sometimes when he was down [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► there he would just go it would just be [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► like like a low growl non-stop [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean little [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► dogs like that the evidences to love [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► being in because we had we had a little [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► westie and Scotty when I was growing up [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► and the scottie actually study was half [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► Westie to and the scottie that which are [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► to do those two dogs did not get along [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► but the people who live next door had a [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► westie and our Scotty got along really [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► well with their west and so that dog [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► would come in and out of our house all [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► the time and I remember one time we had [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► to go someplace [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► and they're like you to get the other [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► guy camera that dog's name you gotta get [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► em out get em out [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► that's why go up by go upstairs in the [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► two of them are just like they're under [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► my parents bed just like under there [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► like making a fort and you know and I [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► try to reach under their dick gravity [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► that was like I loved I loved chatting [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► like reaching into a dinner i love that [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► dog for his his effectively you know [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► bipolar nature loved the other thing [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► about gesture was Eva's a complete idiot [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► I he when every man a strange dog he [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► would want to attack it and you know it [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► was only like and i dont les the [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► knee-high it wasn't like a tiny little [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► dog but you know it was like a regular [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► people not the big standard poodle [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► sighs and he would he would go after [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► like you know like if you sound like [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► somebody walking a Doberman or whatever [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► you want to get a fight it's like what [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► he what he thinking you have no chickens [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► like he was left to his own in nature [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► he'd be dead he would even find a big [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► dog and go get killed but yeah no [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► they're not they're not bright [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► he did have had the same thing where he [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► knew when he was going to the vet and [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► and he would be there and he was to take [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► them in a car lots of places including [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► places that were in the general vicinity [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► of where that was and somehow he always [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► know always yeah well he and grant was [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► always like that with them we take the [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► doggie daycare won't take very much [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► anymore because we both work out of the [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► house now but um when we get close to [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► the black or the doggie daycare was it [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► starred let's get super excited because [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► you know that he was going to just run [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► around like an idiot for four hours with [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► some other dogs [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► aah good stuff so yeah you should get a [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► dog [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► here let me take a break what better [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► what better time is there to talk about [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► a new sponsor here we go this is great [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► today's episode is brought to you by set [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► appt scta PP it's a revolutionary new [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► service for discovering using the best [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► apps for your mac what it is that's [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► effectively I mean this isn't their [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► words but I it's mine it's netflix [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► for mac apps you pay ten bucks a month [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► it's 999 10 bucks a month subscription [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► and you get access to all of the apps [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► that are participating in our program [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► developers obviously opt into this and [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► they've worked out some kind of deal [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► where they all get a share i don't know [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► how they're doing it doesn't you know [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► not our business how there's dividing [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► the money but max it [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► the service is brought to you by Mac [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► Paul and their company that's been [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► around for a long time they do programs [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► like cleanmymac and a few others there [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► they've been indie developers for a long [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► time great company I've known for a [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► while and they've sponsored daring [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► fireball many times set appt they've [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► been working on this for a while they [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► briefed me on this all the way back at [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► WTC and it is it's truly i mean i'm not [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► i'm not saying this is because they're [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► sponsoring it is a very ambitious idea [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► the idea is they're going to collect ten [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► bucks a month from tens of thousands [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► hundreds of thousands you know who knows [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► at some point a million users whatever [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► this is going to grow and that these [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► people will have this access to all of [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► these apps right now they just launched [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► last month just a few weeks ago someone [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► just I can't name all the apps but these [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► are really good apps apps in there like [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► Ulysses which is a writing tool sort of [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► like a like ex-con for writing like that [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► thing where you can get build-up big [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► writing projects rapidweaver seven [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► cleanmymac from Mac call themselves [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► ultimate player and many many more [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► just go to set up calm and you can and [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► you could see the whole list of software [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► there's no ads they don't show you ads [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► there's no paid upgrades when one of the [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► absent program comes up with an update [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► you'll just get the software update [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► it's a just a huge collection and the [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► more successful it gets the more apps [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► might join in the future i right now [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► already i have no hesitation in saying [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► that with the the library of apps that [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► they have right now as you listen to me [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► say this [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► easily worth ten dollars a month easily [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► it's a value at ten dollars a month if [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► it grows even more it's going to get [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► even better [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► and here's the other thing you can try [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► it for 30 days for free so you don't [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► even have to pay them the first ten [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► dollars up front to get it you can just [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► go there [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► signup see how it works see how easy it [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► is see how many apps are and at the end [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► of the month when it even if it's just [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► like one or two of the apps that you [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► like you're already getting a pretty [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► good deal you just pay ten dollars a [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► month so go to set app.com uh it's [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► really i I've never has never been [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► anybody they've been bundles before many [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► times there still are on the Mac where [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► you can pay a low fee like you pay fifty [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► bucks one time and you get a bundle of [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► three or four our five hundred dollars [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► worth of apps and there you go there [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► have been bundles before Apple several [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► years ago introduce the app store which [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► is a new thing but there's never been [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► anything like this like a subscription [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► service where you get apps from entire a [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► wide range of indymac developers so I [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► really hope this thing takes off i think [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► it's already a great value go to set up [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► calm and find out more [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► no special URL no code they just they [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► just want setup com don't know that [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► they're doing [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► yeah her I'd heard about this and i [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► couldn't i didn't know how exactly how [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► it works it is as simple as it sounds [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► there is no catch [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► there is no catch there's no ads there's [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► no hook there's no thing we have to pay [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► more there's no they're not junior [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► versions of the program's it is exactly [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► what you need if you're thinking it's [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► too good to be true [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► it's it's not there is no catch [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► if they're the thing I was fine with [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► those bundles is they often like [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► developers seem to like put they'll put [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► their previous version right into the [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► bundle because they know the new version [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► is coming out soon so they want to get [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► you to pay the upgrade price when the [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► new version comes out but it's not it's [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► you know it when I when I first pitch me [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► on it at WWDC that you know they wanted [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► a couple minutes with me just to you [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► know see what I thought my ideas I i was [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► very I got very defensive in the meaning [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► not you I like them they're nice people [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► but I did because I will tell me what [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► the caches and I really my gut feeling [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► was you know they were talking like we [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► think we know will sponsor daring [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► fireball when we come out and and maybe [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► the talk show etc and my thought at the [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► first moment was I don't know if I'm [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► gonna be able to accept this because if [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► there's going to be some kind of onerous [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► catch that's going to trick people I [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► don't you know that you know and there [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► is no catch i wouldn't take the [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► sponsorship it where it's that simple [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► and it's a great deal to go check them [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► setup setup com we could parlay that [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► into one of the topics i wanted to talk [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► about this week was the ipad now with [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► this setup is obviously because of the [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► nature of iOS it's matt only one of the [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► things I've written about this week and [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► and was the difference between the ipad [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► as a seven-year-old platform and the mac [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► as a seven-year-old platform back in [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► 1991 and just how much more powerful the [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► mac was a platform after seven years [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► than the ipad is in terms of what I [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► struggled to find a term for the self i [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► called it self-sufficiency in other [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► words can you just use this platform to [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► do everything like and two examples of [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► things that you can't do on an ipad [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► would be you can't make ipad apps on an [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► iPad because there's no there's no xcode [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► for ipad or anything like you know even [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► similar any other example at which i [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► think is a little bit more like like a [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► head-scratcher is that you can't make [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► you can't there's no ibooks author for [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► ipad like it's clearer than I iBooks [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► Author the the that that format is best [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► on ipad you get works on your phone and [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► you can read it on your Mac to into the [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► iBooks app but when somebody makes one [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► of these rich interactive ibooks it is [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► no doubt in my mind that it is best on [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► an ipad with touch and with the it this [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► sort of viewing intimacy of the ipad [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► that when you read a book you know it's [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► no surprises literally from like the [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► 2010 ipad announcement with steve jobs [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► you know why he had that chair there [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► it's a device for like sitting back in a [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► chair and reading which is what you do [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► with a book but you can't make an ipad [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► book on an iPad because there's no ipad [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► author or what is I was caught iBooks [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► Author i bought the other no no I was [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► only a mac up [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► and I think that's a little weird i [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► think you know like it would have been [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► weird if seven years into the mac you [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► still couldn't create mac apps on a mac [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► and even weirder if you couldn't create [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► like the documents you have you want to [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► read on the mac on the Mac yeah it seems [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► like an easy way I mean it seems like an [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► easy one to do I mean like it and not [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► necessarily easy like it from a program [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► programming perspective but it doesn't [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► really ruin their philosophy right to do [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► I mean it works with the philosophy and [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► rather than against it [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► I i think yeah yeah and i think that the [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► xcode the idea of xcode on ipad sort of [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► works against that philosophy i think i [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► think it would happen eventually I think [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► and I i'm pretty sure Apple is working [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► on a pretty sure there is an Xcode for [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► ipad that's been several years in the [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► works in cupertino but it's a lower [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► priority but I sort of yeah I don't have [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► any information on how it works i just [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► know that there's a team working on [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► something like that but shocker there's [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► teams working on just about anything [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► that makes sense like that but I kind of [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► think though that it might be a [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► different way of making apps like I [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► don't like the way the xcode works now [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► on the mac is a very very unique see [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► behind-the-scenes is a very very unique [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► see the thing is yes a visual front end [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► for a lot of things that run at the [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► command line level which isn't really [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► there is a unix you know obviously with [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► the core OS being the same that's their [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► on ipad but i'm not quite sure that that [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► works that that work the same way i [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► think it might be like a more simplified [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► way to make apps they would be relapse [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► but more I don't know less less fiddly [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► yeah yeah my flash sort of maybe you [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► know like like I'm really surprised if i [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► would guess that it would work like this [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► like that they'd come out with ICANN a [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► new way to make apps that's a little [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► simpler little bit higher level more [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► abstract [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► and you could share that same project [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► with xcode on the mac so that the one [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► you're developing on the ipad you could [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► develop on the mac but if you have a [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► more complex app or a legacy app that [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► was already started on xcode on the mac [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► that not every not everything you do on [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► the Mac you could do on the ipad version [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► but everything you do in your head you [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► could do in the app does that make sense [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► I could see ya yeah but i think that the [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► the iBooks Author thing is more telling [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► about Apple's priorities and and where [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► they see the ipad i just it because i [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► think it in theory it should be there [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► and I think one of the reasons it's not [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► is sort of proof on this whole like a [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► art our people worried about Apple's [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► commitment to the future of the mac i [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► think it's one of those things that that [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► makes my case which I've been arguing on [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► the show with the last few guests in [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► favor of I don't think Apple has I don't [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► think apple is any less committed to the [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► mac than at any point in the past i [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► think the mac has a bright future and I [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► think the fact that they don't have I'd [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► you know they see it as fine that I [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► books authors mac only is is evidence [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► that it was the last time the updated if [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► there was a minor update in I looked I [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► thought it was like forever ago [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► like maybe the bigger problem by books [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► authors that they're just not committed [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► ibooks period that they sort of lost [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► their corporate i don't know i was going [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► to say stiffy stiffy write books ever [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► since you know since they gets I mean [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► thankyou it came out of the gate I mean [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► even had a special event just for ibooks [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► it was that weird it one off event at [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► the yeah what the heck's the name of [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► that Museum in New York terrible with [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► that stuff like that anyway that the one [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► from men in black [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► I know it was men in black [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► they had a big wasn't media that like in [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► the first men in black [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► where oh where ya at the beginning [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► reactants or he's is the grand [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► Guggenheim that tip yeah yeah [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► will smith chases an alien at up there [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► and that's how you kind of draws the [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► attention of the men in black you know [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► just as a quick aside computer Peter [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► Cohen mentioned this day and Twitter [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► which blew my mind [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► did you know that you know the guy you [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► know better and that the movie the guy [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► that they the bug that puts the skin on [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► the guy skin on [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► oh the this am the alien like I mean [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► he's like he's the gaming is like the [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► main bad guy right I need you know but [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► he skins that he eats the guy enzyme and [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► put the skin on the that's Vincent [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► D'Onofrio I knew that I didn't know idea [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► that blew my mind I was like oh my god [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► that's incredible [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► yeah anyway I didn't know that he [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► doesn't really i think it's easy if it [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► doesn't really look like them for more [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► than 30 second [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► yeah that's right everybody listen to [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► him though it's you can definitely hear [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► the attempt [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► baby i love that movie I maybe I i see [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► it as evidence that Apple is committed [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► to the mac that they're willing to do it [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► i would be frustrated though what I [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► would be frustrated and it's fine by me [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► because i love the mac i would rather I [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► would gladly if somebody said to me you [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► can only use out of iphone ipad and mac [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► you can only use two of the three for [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► the next year and you can't touch the [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► other 1i would instantly would take me [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► it would take me less time than to say [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► it i would just get rid of the ipad i [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► was a mac and iphone are all I need ipad [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► is totally secondary thing for me [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► I in fact I sometimes go like a week and [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► I don't even know where the hell my ipad [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► is I do like it i use it mostly valued [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► I'd swear my most frequent uses in [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► baseball season using it as a TV to [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► watch yankees games [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► yeah yeah that's probably I think [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► entertainment is now I used to take it [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► when a community of tests yet all it [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► would take it to write with the keyboard [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► but now it's basically it is to [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► basically games in and watching netflix [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► anything so for me as somebody who from [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► my work wants the mac to remain a [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► thriving platform it's music to my ears [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► like I would actually be slightly more [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► worried if the ipad were more capable [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► because it would at least lend some [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► credence to the idea that Apple thinks [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► the ipad is the future personal [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► computing the fact that it isn't even [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► after seven years it's actually just [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► gives me confidence in their commitment [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► to the mac but i'd be frustrated and it [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► would be angering to me if I were one of [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► the people who is really trying to make [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► a go of of using the ipad is there [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► full-time platform you know the been [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► Brooks's and and veteran goes of the [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► world I would find that very frustrating [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► because it's the last seven years it [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► really makes me think about you know [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► this comparison to and if for some [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► reason 77 seems like an arbitrary number [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► but it's funny because 1991 was when I [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► got my first mac i mean i used one [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► school before but I didn't own one and [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► that's when system 7 came out which I've [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► you know it was a big big landmark in i [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► mean i think was the landmark yeah the [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► early days I would say system 7 was the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► division between the early days of mac [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► OS and the later days of mac OS I mean [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► and maybe that's a little arbitrary but [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► i don't think so I mean it was when they [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► changed the whole bunch of things like [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► remember when it control panels i forget [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► how you used to install and system 6 [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► they were sort of more like like [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► suitcase type things where ends well [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► yeah that's right handed it and yeah [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► third party ones were weird and then in [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► system 700 panels became a lot more like [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► apps where they were just self-contained [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► things and you just put them in a folder [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► in your stairs you know your system [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► folder at the root level and yes I was a [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► folder called control panels and you [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► just put them in there and you wanted on [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► install one you just took it out and [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► restarted [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► it was a beautiful system that it was it [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► yeah but it was your specific or just [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► crashed [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► oh I disagree I i disagree i really do I [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► don't like it when people say that the [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► system set from air max crashed all the [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► time I think the Ark of the art of being [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► a power user on one system 7 aeromax was [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► you would start running the basic system [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► and you would be let you fall in love [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► with the mac and then you'd get into the [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► nerd community and you start finding out [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► about Annette's yeah and extensions and [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► these extensions could sometimes do like [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► just change like a little slight thing [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► but it's like oh I like that like now [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► your mouse cursor is a dog you know and [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► right brain and that's kind of easy like [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► all that in it would do is just sort of [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► swap out the system's cursor and point [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► to this other cursor instead and okay [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► there you go now your cursor is a smurf [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► and you know you'd get more and more you [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► know and then all the all the time when [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► you go empty trash Oscar papa oscar the [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► grouch pops out of your trashcan and [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► sings a song which was a door of it like [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► if you didn't have the Grouch extension [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► installed on your mac for at least a [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► month or two then you've got no soul and [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► but the broader yeah but the problem is [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► it leads to such yeah i mean i think [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► what happened was like it in those early [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► days we didn't have enough stuff that [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► would you know really cause a lot of [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► trouble and then as more things came out [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► it became worse and worse and worse and [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► then you know by the time system it came [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► out they had to have other basically put [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► a thing in there to manage all your [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► wrong with star remember and [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► specifically the one that everybody knew [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► I mean at least anybody did design work [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► had to have an extension called Adobe [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► type manager ATM did you have did you [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► have ATM or no because you did I don't [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► think I did but I didn't do so that I [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► think that ATM did was natively the [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► system wanted truetype funds [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► four vector fonts but almost all of the [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► professional fonts that you could buy [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► were in postscript format and to get [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► them to look wysiwyg on-screen you [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► needed adobe type manager apple/system [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► didn't natively render PostScript fonts [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► and you needed post-grad plans to do [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► serious work so you'd have to have ATM [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► installed but ATM would load first [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► because it starts with an AI mean it [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► almost certainly loaded first and if not [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► it loaded certainly loaded early but you [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► can you had the load at last because it [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► it would it conflicted with so much [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► stuff you had to load it last so [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► everybody i think it even shipped i [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► think about when you installed it from [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► adobe if you bought it straight up legit [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► i forget everything we had to buy maybe [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► they gave it away but the way adobe gave [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► it to you [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► the file was named like tilde 80s and [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► our quickfire forget what character was [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► before it but it was some kind of [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► punctuation character that in Apple's [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► sorting algorithm of the time would load [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► last and that was a little bit anyway [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► in my opinion the curve of being a mac [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► power user and note in the nineties was [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► you'd start getting more and more [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► extensions and remember when you boot [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► and you'd see that every time an [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► extension loaded you see the icon during [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► the boot sequence and then you get a [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► second line of them at third line so it [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► was like a bell curve you start getting [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► a little bomb [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► no don't know then they would just stop [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► you did it was like one of them was [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► loaded and it would just stop and you'd [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► be like uh-oh that shit and then you do [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► it at you I me everybody remembers you [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► gotta remember how did you how did you [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► start up and not load extensions of [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► course right you didn't have to you [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► probably have to think more about it to [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► say your hand probably already went to [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► the shift key right [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► it was just you just had muscle memory [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► of how to restart your Mac with the [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► shift key down now but then what would [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► happen is you max out and you'd be so [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► proud of how many extensions you have [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► but your Mac would be unstable and then [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► all of a sudden you do you would that [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► you delight with China and you'd say [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► more extensions is not a good thing [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► fewer extensions and you should run it [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► closer and closer as close as you can to [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► the configuration that ships with like [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► its a Mac out-of-the-box from app [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► all without any other extensions was [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► always an extremely stable device now it [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► i'm not saying it never crashed I mean [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► but usually it was completely in [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► applications fault the system itself was [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► stable and so by the end of it you know [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► by the end of the classic here i added a [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► few system extensions as possible [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► everyone was one that i felt like i [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► could not do without and from a [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► reputable vendor yeah and you eat [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► development sense right with conflict [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► catcher because like yeah if I'm going [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► to do like publishing today and then [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► i'll do it with my publishing set and [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► i'm going to play like a game and I need [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► some sort of 3ds and a minimal and any [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► other things sometimes if you wanted to [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► play a game as you did you reboot with a [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► minimal step just to free up as much ram [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► is one of all keep it keep it as light [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► as possible [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► ram don't haha man i love the mag I [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► thought I love the classic Mac I i think [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► it still is overall a simpler conceptual [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► design than Mac os10 I think that was [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► tennis way too fiddly and exposes way [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► too many goofy bits [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► I you know iOS clearly takes the cake [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► and and and yeah I become comfortable [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► with the goofy because at this point but [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► there is a there is a min let the fact [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► that you can you can just drag a system [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► folder from Mac the Mac and reboot it [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► was pretty cool but they're there were [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► definitely some parts of the classic Mac [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► system that you can cannot defend as [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► elegant design like yeah for example by [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► the nineties this is just an expert in [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► the eighties when it came out it made [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► perfect sense but in the nineties by the [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► by night it should have been fixed with [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► system 7 but I know why it wasn't [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► because the legacy reasons that they [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► were carrying all this baggage but the [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► fact that you had to allocate memory to [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► programs with get info [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► oh my god for people who are in a [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► classic mac OS users what you would do [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► is you'd find any application and you go [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► get info and in the info it would have a [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► text field where it would say how much [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► ram was allocated and so developers when [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► they ship their apps would buy you know [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► typically they would have a basic I'd [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► never believed would have you know they [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► would ship it with a a pre-configured [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► you when you first downloaded the app [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► and all that [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► it would have a default that was defined [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► by the developer so photoshop by default [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► would take a lot more ram then you know [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► a simple a very simple lightweight app [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► that just I don't know capitalizes law [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► letters for you or something like that [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► but you could as the user it was just a [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► text field and get info you could give a [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► nap more or less as needed [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► it does not seem like something that the [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► computer for the rest of us you should [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► force you to do you have really you know [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► I can't defend them [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► yeah I i can remember like it you know [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► not that windows 95 was greater and but [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► you know at least like some some level [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► protected memory was was that the one [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► thing that I was like man that would be [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► nice to prepare the very not everything [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► but I really worried is mac apps had [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► programmers who were clever enough to [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► get around it so photoshop at a certain [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► point used to use a ramdisk its own [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► ramdisk and so you didn't have to you [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► could open big files in Photoshop and [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► not have to really worry about having [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► given it enough rent it would do it on [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► its own and BB and famously was able to [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► operate with a very small it was like [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► that that the instructions for BB Edward [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► do not screw with the default amount of [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► ram it doesn't need much and bbedit had [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► a a a brilliant scheme where you can [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► open files you know it as big as the [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► text file is how much ram PB and it [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► needs to to display it but it could be [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► way more than what the app had because [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► it would allocate the memory outside of [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► that allocation that you got from get [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► info it managed so memory separately [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► which was fantastic but neither here nor [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► I don't know what do I would be [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► frustrated if I were at ipad first user [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► I guess it really depends on what your [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► means just depends what you're doing I [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► think there's there's definitely there [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► are definitely things that i do that [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► would be I would find frustrating but I [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► don't do them that often i think I'm [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► somebody who probably could do most of [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► my work on and I I there's no way I'm [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► because it's mostly mostly i'm writing [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► and then I'm taking it and i use Ulysses [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► which is one of those apps and Santana [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► and that's in setup and I i write it up [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► and then I taken i'd put it someplace [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► you know i usually either either take [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► the file and send it to somebody or a [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► posted into some sort of web-based and [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► CMS so how would you get recordings [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► jihad cast [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► well that's it that's it that's one [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► thing right [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► you can't mean you can report record [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► podcasts on iOS devices i have not done [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► it yet it's but it's jumping through a [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► whole bunch of Hoops whereas there's [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► like 10 different there's ten different [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► easy ways to record a podcast on a mac [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► at least right you just open i'm using [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► two separate ones right now I ya know i [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► guess i'm just using one but that's [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► you're probably smarter than me [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► well it's because it's becoming a [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► problem with it like you can record you [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► just have these other apps running and [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► you know or i use call recorder which is [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► an extension for skype and there's no [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► way that you can install an extension [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► for an app on ipad yeah and it's just [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► know it [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► I don't know it's just another example [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► of the type of thing and I know that [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► I've listened to a couple of podcasts [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► where there's like a web-based thing [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► that somebody's working i forget the [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► name of it i heard smell talking about [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► it recently [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► ok edit yeah you can like record too [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► it's like a way that they could kind of [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► people can get on and you just use I [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► think it's ridiculous that the answer to [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► getting people to record podcasts on an [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► ipad is to use a web app instead of a [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► native app because it the gist of it is [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► that all you need is the microphone then [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► and the server side does the recording [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► you know like it records that the webapp [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► records little bit and as you go keep [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► sending it to the server so like if the [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► connection breaks or whatever [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► it's not you know you don't lose the [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► whole the only lose like a couple [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► seconds at a time I think it's [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► ridiculous that it's not a local thing [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► that the solution is to do it all on the [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► web [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► anyway at the gist of it is that in in [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► the midst of all of this months-long [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► storm and drunk / i think apple is I [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► think apples you know abandoning the mac [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► i think they're trying to force all to [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► use iPads and in the midst of all this [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► I've been more or less on the side of i [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► don't think so i really think the max [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► fine but I think lost in this is the [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► opposite which is at the ipad is nowhere [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► near as powerful as it should be at this [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► point in time you should be able to [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► record a video you know have that record [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► a podcast you know three native apps [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► there should be a way to have two apps [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► at a time using the microphone so that [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► one could be skype sending the [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► communication over the Internet and the [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► other one can be a call recorder type [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► there's no way there's no reason you [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► shouldn't be able to do that I yeah I [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► add I don't know I'd be frustrated i [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► think that that is it different is it [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► still just the thing of like walking [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► into agreements and maybe I don't do we [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► keep coming back to that right but [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► particular i don't know i don't know you [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► know maybe I think the other thing to [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► have been thinking about this a lot [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► lately too is where does this idea that [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► the that the ipad is that Apple is going [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► to push the sweeping up Mac aside in [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► favor of the ipad i think a large part [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► comes down to what Tim Cook said when [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► they debuted in the ipad pro where tim [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► cook right ahead i don't have it in [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► front of me but it's something to the [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► effect of these it means that he doesn't [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► somehow he never said that he's never [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► said that he has said that he took I [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► think he said that he's travelled only [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► with an ipad but it like like when he [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► went to find out when he went to when he [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► invited ABC News into is his office in [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► cupertino to do an interview about the [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► FBI sanburne Bernardino case there's a [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► big imac on his desk is not a 5k imac on [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► his desk so I mean he's got one on his [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► desk like it if he didn't use it i can't [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► imagine why you have it on his desk [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► I find it very hard to believe that team [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► coaches not using Mac I would be shocked [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► if he actually said that he has said [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► that he travels only with an ipad has [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► said that he thinks there's many people [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► many users who can get by with only an [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► ipad but i think it was his words that [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► this is are the best like example of our [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► vision for the future of personal [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► computing you know said something to the [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► effect of that and I think that it was I [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► i if you take it literally it sort of [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► sounds like yeah he's saying that this [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► is going to be the future and and [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► everything else like the men you know [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► which would include the mac is is by the [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► way so I think he was just selling the [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► ipad pro I I don't really think he meant [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► it that way i think that you know i [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► think that the better i mean the press [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► the problem is that you know you have [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► that you have that statement you have [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► some release you know I think there's a [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► there's a cat least a couple statements [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► that he's made about stuff like that and [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► then and then the early every year like [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► 2016 where they don't really update the [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► matter much and they have the desktop [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► ones are just surrender [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► I think that so the convergence of those [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► two things and make them think but I [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► don't think that it was an example you [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► know not right they didn't update the [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► ipad they haven't updated the ipad and [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► over a year either right well didn't [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► that the 12 what the the pro the smaller [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► pro came out and April right now could [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► ya last April so it will be if they have [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► our march i guess you'll be it'll be a [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► year [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah they didn't write it in [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► the fall which they live right and yeah [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► like sand so the 12-inch 13 inch iPad [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► pro hasn't been updated now in over a [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► year [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► it came out alongside the the iphone [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► last year or at least it was debuted [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► alongside the iphone came out in October [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► whatever but that's been unchanged for [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► over a year so I don't think I i think [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► that lack of updates to hardware should [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► not are not necessarily indicative of [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► their commitment to to the platform [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► I think that the annual update to the OS [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► is a better sign of their commitment to [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► the platform [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► yeah I don't know what the explanation [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► is but i'd be frustrated I i would the [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► Ulysses was my description of it's sort [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► of like an ide for writing is that is [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► that a good description [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► wake up yeah yeah yeah I mean it's uh to [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► me it and I used to write in bbedit all [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► the time and mostly right mark down and [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► so what I wanted something that was [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► better at arranging the files so Ulysses [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► is like that it gives you know you can [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► create folders and projects and stuff [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► like that you know it's it's somewhere [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► in between [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► you know it's like between bbedit and [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► the Scrivener you know it's not as fancy [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► Scrivener it doesn't have you know [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► things for writing scripts and things [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► like that it you can't put mean you can [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► we can't put pictures in and like you [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► know scrapbook stuff that when you're [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► building characters and things that you [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► know things to write books you're [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► reading of like a full book you probably [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► want to use Scrivener but you could [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► write a full book and universities to [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► and it has an ipad version in the end [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► they sink right yeah [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► yep yep and that's the nice thing I me [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► and iso it works on iphone ipad and and [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► the map it's always in been one of those [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► apps that peach sort of appeals to me [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► but never never pushes me over the edge [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► it took me awhile it really took me a [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► while to get used to that i've been [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► using bb-8 for years and I couldn't get [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► used to it but then finally I think it [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► was like one of the recent update so [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► i've been using it for cat two years a [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► year and a half something like that and [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► very happy with i still use bbedit for [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► certain things but and you know I know [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► Apple has done apple has some of their [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► apps that work great [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► cross-platform i think that the i have [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► complaints about the mac version of [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► photos being not mac like enough and [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► sort of it just feels like an app [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► written by iOS just programmers not mad [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► programmers by in terms of actually [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► sinking and having photos that i take my [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► iphone just magically appear on my mac [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► and changes you know I edited by [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► straightening you know I one of the [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► things I mean I take thousands of photos [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► year and [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► like not serious but like semi-serious [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► you know I don't like a four thousand [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► dollar canon SLR you know with counting [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► the lenses i cannot take a straight [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► picture I mean 20 years into avid [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► amateur photography hobby i stopped [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► every almost every photo i take the [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► horizon is coming is crooked [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► so like straightening images is just I [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► do it all the time and i love these [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► straighten it on it doesn't matter which [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► device you straighten it on there it is [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► it's synced up to your iCloud I love it [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► and I works suite now that they've you [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► know they had hit the reset button [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► you know four years there was like the [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► iOS versions which had a certain file [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► format and the mac versions which had [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► file formats that couldn't round trip [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► because it used features and hit the [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► reset button and the the only way to do [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► it is to sort of set the mac back but [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► they've gotten them to the point now [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► where most of what did the mac apps [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► could always do they can do everywhere [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► now you know so that I work sounds very [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► good example but Ulysses just shows that [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► third-party developers and I think a lot [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► of ways are better are doing a better [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► job of making the ipad appear to the mac [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► of a peer not appear [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► Yeah Yeah right a sibling a full-fledged [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► sibling to the man whose annapolis you [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► know and with ibooks author yeah as [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► Exhibit A [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► yeah it's a fairly I mean it's a [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► relatively simple a podium and I'm not [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► trying to that's proud that came out [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► wrong [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► I mean that's one of the things I like [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► about it it's not there are there aren't [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► like a huge number of bells and whistles [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► and and it you know it lets you get into [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► the writing which is what i want to do [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► but it gives me enough flexibility in [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► terms of arranging things that it's it's [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► got exactly what i want so it it you [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► know it doesn't have to do anything [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► super freaky like me and stuff that's [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► not allowed on I know what else is doing [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► it all [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► I'm amazing job on on treating the ipad [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► as it as a first-class platform for [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► creative people is on the group [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► yeah I it then again I I think better [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► than apple III really do OS yeah well i [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► think the I mean they're like they're [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► that the forefront and they made that [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► decision and I mean I assuming that is [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► working out well enough with my dad my [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► whole job but my understanding is you [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► always look at rapid I thought but it [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► they really it and i think that they did [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► it in a way where the mac versions of [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► their apps never suffered like they the [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► mac versions of Omnius never had like an [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► 18-month period where they were like one [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► step forward two steps back to get iOS [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► compatibility so it really i mean i [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► would hold them up as a better example [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► than apple of of how to get you know [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► ipad version of mac versions that just [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► work together [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► yeah and they did you see that can case [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► founder co-founder of of the Army Group [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► CEO he had his annual you know here's [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► what you know here's what 2016 was for [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► us and here's what we're looking at in [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► did you see that post um I'll put it in [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► the show notes I I swear to god I'm [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► typing it in right now [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► here we go the one of the i won't go [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► into details on the app I basis but one [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► of the things that was fascinating about [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► it is that they have hired salsaria hand [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► who was formerly a long time Apple [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► evangelist need for not automation [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► technologies i believe was what his [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► group was called which was Apple script [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► and automator and you know stuff in that [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► area and Sal left Apple visit to the [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► early December somewhere around there [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► and [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► seemingly you know the details are not [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► public but it's you know the gist of it [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► and and sell had a piece that he wrote [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► for mac stories you know it's suggesting [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► that Apple seems to think that [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► extensions are the future of automation [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► meaning like this little sharing sheet [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► things that you have now where you can [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► like if you have the you know I'd like a [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► but I i use a bookmarking service called [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► pinboard and I have an app called pinner [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► on my iPhone and when I have a URL and [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► go to share it I get a little extension [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► up there that says add add to pin board [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► and i can just tap that anything that [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► goes that that sort of thing is the [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► future of automation and it's not like [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► scripting or something like that which [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► is it extensions are great but it's a [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► totally separate thing it's like saying [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► it really is like saying the future of [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► citrus is Apple's you know it's like [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► that's not citrus you know you know mean [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► apples are great but we need oranges and [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► lemons limes something you can't you [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► know what you're gonna do what you gonna [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► do if you make a martini you can put a [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► goddamn apple peel in it you need lemon [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► peel and that's a terrible analogy [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► because this but anyway anyway in case i [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► revealed in is your interview thing that [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► the army group has been consulting with [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► Sal since he left Apple like and they're [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► smart it's just one of those ways where [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► the only group is so smart where it's [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► like Sal says well after 20 years i'm [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► leaving Apple and the army group was [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► like perfect let's get him [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► yeah right yeah well around here right [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► now be theirs yeah we had a bunch of [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► other companies like oh sure we should [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► we should get a lot now that mean that [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► you mentioned that remember that [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► remember that I'm hearing about right at [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► any rate and I don't think I mean they [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► don't they don't really like him yet [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► right but they have a day revealed a [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► demo anyway they've got engineers [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► working on Harleys an engineer and [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► working on a a cross-platform scripting [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► system for the omni group apps [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► uh it but it's now how's that gonna work [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► you know there's like on the Mac there's [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► the the Apple script is there it's part [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► of the system [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► I mean it's really the osa but it's [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► apple events are part of the system and [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► there's a standard way for developers to [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► add scripting support to their apps and [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► that the same way that you know the same [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► things that you do as a developer to [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► make your appt scriptable by Apple [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► script or JavaScript which is in our [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► first class officially supported [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► language for scripting apps on mac also [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► it is along the lines of doing this it's [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► the same work that you have to do to get [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► automator support for your app so you [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► can make your appt part of an automator [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► process [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► you can't do it there's no apple events [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► on iOS so if in and there's no real [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► alternative to it so the army group is [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► doing her own thing [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► forget what they're calling it but it's [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► based on JavaScript because part of the [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► reason that you know developers is that [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► it's tricky for developers to do [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► something like this is that of the rules [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► for the app store on iOS or that you [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► can't add an interpreter to your app in [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► other words you can't have an app that [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► makes apps even if it runs within its [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► something but what you can do is use the [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► system version of java script that comes [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► with WebKit and so you can use [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► javascript javascript that comes with [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► the system and it presumably that's what [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► Apple's origami is doing because they're [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► saying that they're there they're [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► scripting technology is based on on [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► JavaScript but the gist of it is in and [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► there's an example script that they show [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► an animation of that I guess Sal wrote [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► we make a rectangle and then you make a [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► circle out of the rectangle and color it [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► green and in position at a certain point [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► it's it's his scripting there they're [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► drawing up on the gravel and that the [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► same scripts are going to be [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► cross-platform mac and iOS which is [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► really we haven't had that it's great [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► but it to me i read this and I think [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► this is great and it makes you know it [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► helps establish on the is like the [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► leading indeed apple developer apple [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► platform developer today but this is the [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► sort of thing that should be coming from [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► Apple not from a third-party developer [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► it should be the same thing for it for [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► all apps [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► I mean that's one of the reasons [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► applescript nice everyone about the [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► language but one of the reason [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► it's a great technology was before Apple [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► script in the early days of the Mack [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► there were any app that wanted to have [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► like an automation and we used to call [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► macros nobody uses the word macro [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► anymore but it's the same idea right but [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► any app that had macros or something [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► like that had their own thing [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► it was all at you know it that's how I [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► since I got into that's like what i [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► started my career in IIT was basically [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► doing macros so high with the a guy came [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► to work in the financial department and [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► they had all these spreadsheets that [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► they were doing you know all this stuff [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► manually and so I started out just by [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► taking taking it excel and just in doing [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► like arrowing of having an arrow over [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► arrow through cells instead of like [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► really learning anything before I [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► learned how to do any kind of [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► programming it was just like down [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► oneself down one cell types filter / / / [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► copy but you know like that kind of [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► thing just like very deliberately [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► telling it exactly what i would do by [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► hand and then slowly working into like [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► learning [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► yeah visual basic for applications like [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► that's my that's my nightmare background [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► but I i forget the name that there was a [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► prior to about it was a competitor for [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► years with bbedit i think was called [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► alpha there was a programming text [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► editor for the mac and it used tickle [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► TCL as a scripting language which was it [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► wasn't like its own invention of the [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► language but what they did it was an [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► open-source scripting language that i [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► think is largely fallen out of favor and [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► andrew recent decades but you know it's [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► a sort of scripting language for anybody [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► could look at it and sort of get the [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► gist of oh yeah and I mean it wasn't [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► like a weird language it was like I kind [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► of see what's going on here [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► mhm but they embedded the interpreter in [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► their app and no but no other mac app is [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► tickle so anything you did that you are [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► scripting it was only within the text [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► editor itself there was no way to to do [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► something with text and then send it to [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► excel or whatever Apple you know having [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► it as the system level technology is [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► what made that possible and and the fact [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► that iOS doesn't have it and the fact [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► that it doesn't you know if reading [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► between the lines of what Sal as [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► has said publicly since he left doesn't [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► seem like it's in the plans either so I [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► think that's kind of worrisome [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► yeah and we'd meet again another sign [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► that it would make me angry if I were an [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► iOS user would all right let's take a [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► break and and tell you about our good [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► friends at Squarespace next time you [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► need a website just go to squarespace [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► and and and give it like an hour and [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► just start making a website there click [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► a template find find the basic template [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► of the type of site you need and they [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► just they have things to pick from so [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► like let's say you're making a blog he [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► would tell you here's here's you know [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► start with a blog or let's say you want [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► to sell stuff like somebody you know is [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► making it a go [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► you know a bunch of crafts or something [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► like that and they want to sell you just [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► say I want to build a store and taste it [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► just starts with that as the sort of and [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► then you pick styles like what type of [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► font and colors and stuff like that they [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► have a slew of professionally designed [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► templates i mean i don't know how many [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► but so many so many that you don't have [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► to worry about the fact that like oh if [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► I go to squarespace it's gonna look like [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► a square space it-it's like they have so [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► many templates you don't have to worry [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► about that it's you can make something [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► that looks totally original it and you [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► just click and drag you just drag which [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► components you want it's very visual [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► you don't have to do any coding what so [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► ever it is a completely drag-and-drop [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► visual tool very much as we talk about [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► these retro things like in a way that [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► illustrator never ever ever in made you [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► write postscript to get vector art [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► Squarespace never makes you see HTML or [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► CSS or JavaScript to make a totally [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► dynamic modern website that it has [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► everything you'd want on a modern [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► website including scalability from [TS]

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00:58:31 ◼   ► it and handle everything they handle [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► everything you can register your domain [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► with them to get your domain name they [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► host it all [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► you don't need to separate hosting [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► account it's not like you build a [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► website with squarespace and you get a [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► folder full of files that you have to [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► upload and install on a hosting account [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► they host it they host it's just all [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► self-contained from getting a domain to [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► hosting it to showing you traffic and [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► dats and great analytics way better its [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► Squarespace analytics are so much better [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► than anything I have a daring fireball [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► it's absolutely embarrassing you can [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► lock down your next move with unique [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► domain your own website that they will [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► host and any second any type of site you [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► need to make so go to squarespace.com [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► and just go to squarespace.com / talk [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► show [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► that's the code and just remember that [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► code talk show and when you pay you can [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► start for free but when you do pay [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► because it's going to build a site near [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► like I want to keep it i want to cite to [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► keep going to use that code talk show [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► and you get ten percent off you can pay [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► for a year at a time and save a ton of [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► dough by using that code so remember [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► that are good friends [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► Squarespace love them that's what you [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► should go to build your next website uh [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► watch the superbowl know i wish i hadn't [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► but I now I expect the head quipped that [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► I was the guy was the real winner [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► because i did not watch this [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► I wish I had Wow as a somebody of people [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► scratch on the atlanta falcons that's [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► heartbreaking [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► heartbreaking [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► ya know it's just it's really two teams [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► that I just don't I didn't care about it [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► also i'm just saying i thought i can [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► watch the you know they can watch the [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► commercial here [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► ah i wrote a little bit well you're [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► something here's a story that came out [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► it they're not new but two stories came [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► out in the last two days there's a fast [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► company story by gonna get his name Mark [TS]

01:00:28 ◼   ► Sullivan it came out yesterday and [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► headline why apple's 10th anniversary [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► iphone will likely cost more than a [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► thousand dollars and the gist of it is [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► that according to this guy says he has [TS]

01:00:40 ◼   ► he has a source with knowledge of apples [TS]

01:00:42 ◼   ► plans that's how he attributed doesn't [TS]

01:00:44 ◼   ► say where the sources from is it from [TS]

01:00:46 ◼   ► apple is it from the supply chain is it [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► a bartender at bjs in cupertino I don't [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► know but this guy has source and he says [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► that what Apple is going to do next year [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► is coming out with the iphone 7s and the [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► iphone 7s plus which would be exactly in [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► line with the past couple of years where [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► they just take the new number version [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► and then add an ass [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► I mean it doesn't say it's going to call [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► this but they're gonna look exactly like [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► the seven and seven plus not like sort [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► of like it like the way that the seven [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► sort of looks like the iphone 6 and 6s [TS]

01:01:21 ◼   ► but they are also going to introduce a [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► new even though they're going to come [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► out with a 77 s plus with new stuff [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► they're also going to come out with an [TS]

01:01:31 ◼   ► all-new industrial design with that [TS]

01:01:35 ◼   ► that's and then we'll have an oled [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► display and it's going to go edge and [TS]

01:01:39 ◼   ► it's going to be five point eight inches [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► instead of five and it's gonna cost more [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► so even though they're going to [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► introduce 7 s and 70 s plus they're [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► going to it instead of having them debut [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► at the top of the line there's going to [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► be this new iphone that's going to debut [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► at the top of the line at an even higher [TS]

01:01:55 ◼   ► price starting it more than a thousand [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► dollars that's not really the [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► thousand-dollar thing isn't ridiculous [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► because if you buy the high-end iphone 7 [TS]

01:02:04 ◼   ► plus it is like 900 $69 so it's already [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► they've already the top-of-the-line most [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► expensive iphone is already roughly a [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► thousand dollars so it's not [TS]

01:02:14 ◼   ► preposterous that the starting point of [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► a new high-end mission 1 would be a [TS]

01:02:20 ◼   ► thousand dollars uh-huh [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► so this is a five-point in this is the [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► eighth well they're saying they don't [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► know the name and he they're saying Evan [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► says which would which is what we've [TS]