00:00:00 ◼ ► comfortable number 349 februari 2017 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/0">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► uncomfortable i'm your host Jason still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► and this episode is going to be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► two books you may have been assigned in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/15">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► and they have become more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► and relevant lately and I believe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/26">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► fact copies of one are reportedly sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/28">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► bookstore still remain in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/33">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► States so we're going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► george orwell's 1984 and Ray Bradbury's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► Fahrenheit 451 two things you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/39">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► clearly so join me i mentioned reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► discussed these commonly assigned works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► then the hook very host of sophomore lit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/54">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► John McCoy hello hello I want you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/57">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► mcnulty that's double plus good to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► here Jason David jail or we have always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/68">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► been at war with Eastasia that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/72">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► true I i guess a it was kind of grim in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/74">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► high school because we had our english [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/77">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► class in room 101 ouch that's brutal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► Erica and sign is here you might as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► wait a second now that haha i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/85">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► will just go ahead and johanna down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► no don'tdon't you got memory hole after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► reading these books Jason you felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► you didn't need to just jump down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/99">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► memory hole well yeah man we are on fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► no it's uh let's erase that and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/105">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► yeah yeah that was undergoing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/110">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► wasn't good good so let's start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/113">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► we start there before we move on to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► well these were both published a 44-41 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► published in nineteen fifty three ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/125">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► four was published in 1949 so both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/126">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► dystopian visions often assigned in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/132">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► school like I said along with the may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► brave new world you can tune him to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► an hour and a half of John and I talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► about brave new world a sophomore lid we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► covered that one who is a weird one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► um about regrets a lot of credit mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► he's written so many different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► works and he always gets credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/155">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► beautiful writer it is prose style is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/158">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► remarkable and i was struck I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► fahrenheit 451 at some point but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► like I probably retained none of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► revisiting it now was kind of fun but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► was also struck by the fact that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► not it was not at all what I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/175">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► and although i did at several points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► stop and appreciate how how much effort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/181">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► pro-style when it would where everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► else is kind of impressions with her of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► fahrenheit 451 John did you read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► yes this was actually I think maybe my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► third or fourth episode so I read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/196">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► about a year ago I I have to say I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/199">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► fan of bradbery's pro-style but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► this seems like kind of early days to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► like he's he's finding his way along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/207">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► this he famously wrote this book at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/210">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► night on a typewriter in a college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► university because he didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► typewriter of his own and it really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► feel kind of like a guy out to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► himself to me and I think there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/226">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► there's a lot of stuff in here that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/229">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► seems to me like he's approaching with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► bit of a chip on his shoulder because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/234">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► he likes to kind of yeah i'll get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/237">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► this later but Bradbury strikes me as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► someone who wants to kind of show off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► little bit of what he knows you know by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► cicero and pulling out matthew arnold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/248">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► and stuff i think but i but I i like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► i thought that there were passages that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/253">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► were just beautiful and strange III this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► time reading through i really loved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► depiction of the Hound which doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► really pay off in in any major way in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/266">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► just how does this ever-present threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► but just the idea this crazy biomorphic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/272">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► Bradbury doesn't even try to make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/281">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► well I read this book many years ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► of course remember nothing about it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/289">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► especially if i had read it last year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/291">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► wouldn't remember anything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► let's be honest except of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► whole lido with a bird books he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► firebender and they burn books that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► remembered so I didn't remember that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► was broken up into three sections i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/304">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► didn't i didn't remember the Hound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/306">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► though that would stick out in my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► as well but i really like it I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► thought that it was striking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/313">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► the chat the part that struck me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► most is when what's-his-name on tog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► explains or or his boss explains baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/322">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► explains to to Montague why they burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► the books and you know it wasn't a law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/331">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► it was just that you know people we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► just looking for faster entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► and filling up their minds with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/339">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► thinking about Twitter and then I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► stop reading and you can burn Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/346">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► unfortunately can't do that i've i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► tried many times to set your computer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/351">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► that's right it's not that right erica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► was your experience with fahrenheit 451 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► I had never read either one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► books before actually I didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► read them in school and I thought maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/363">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► didn't get through it because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/370">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► didn't like it but if that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/371">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► then I really forgot everything about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/373">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► because I didn't remember anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► reading this I mean the only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/378">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► burning books like that was that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/382">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► I didn't even know the fireman thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► that was that was all new to me and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► agree with John that the the pros is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► beautiful but honestly book really kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► of angered me because it very much seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/397">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► like oh he's coming from a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/400">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► oh you know people people who like pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/403">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► culture and people who like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► literature but looks you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► going to be the downfall of us all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► I'm like that's rich coming from a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/413">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► who's known for science fiction which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► mean my favorite genre in the world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► has been you know throughout history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/419">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► kind of looked and looked down upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► so I was just like where do you get off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/422">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► dude and that sort of colored the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► well I know speed slight spoiler here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/428">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► for my view of it I had a very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/430">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► David what are your initial sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/435">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► yeah that this was another one that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► had you know that hundreds of copies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► sitting around in high school and you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/445">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► classes because we had the big open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► space classrooms with like three classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/450">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► once it was like you tons of storage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► it was one that i wanted to read and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► our english classes never read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► it was really weird i never got to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/459">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► either one of these in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► except by choice and so I did I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► did them senior year just for kicks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► coming back to it now I i remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► time I had read a lot of Bradbury and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► this really stood out as very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► from a lot of what he was writing at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► time and but it's the only thing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► those early like you know early fifties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► Bradbury that that's stuck in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► and I don't know why cause I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► come back to the other Bradbury which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► that might be part of it to the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► Bradbury I had to read in school was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► oh nice not quite the same thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► that was a long time ago the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► that we got for street with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► wicked this way comes partly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► they just wanted to show us the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/508">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► yeah there's a lot of what we got movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► but yeah I i really had this made an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/513">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► impression on me twenties so many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/518">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► ago and so I had forgotten a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/521">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► but there were bits and pieces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► images that as soon as i got them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► could be no almost recite the next page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► with it which was kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► yeah I my memory of this is is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► said zero i know i read it and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► remember this is what it's like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/539">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► Scott all the time I realize it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/540">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► always like that for me but condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/543">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► yes I i know i I'm I'm walk i walked a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► mile i read a book in your shoes I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► no that's why i usually comfortable put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/550">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► on choose to read a book but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/553">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► case I did and a yeah i think the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► opening is especially lyrical and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/559">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► that moment you know it was a two-stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► thing with the first stages so here is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/564">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► writer who is going to show off right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/565">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► mean i guess you could see it and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/567">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► was like he's pretty good at it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► now is the next step was like like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► the way that this book starts it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► very much like I'm just gonna I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► impress you with my prose a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► and he does yeah but and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/579">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► moments throughout that I i would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► at it and be like okay you know I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/584">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► his skill at this but I was struck by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► the same thing erica was and if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► at Bradbury statements about Fahrenheit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► this is really interesting so we lumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/596">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► the this these two books together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► there is this mid-twentieth-century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► books that are against totalitarianism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► and censorship and other other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/606">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► similarly terrible things and they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► lumped together and i find it funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► because having read fahrenheit 451 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► then seeing that bread for himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► admits this I feel like they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► don't fit because fahrenheit 451 to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/621">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► feels very much like it's about it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► satire about how if people don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/626">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► governments will come and keep people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► from reading in order to have them beam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► you know how in order to exert their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► power over them here it's very much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/642">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► snobbish turning you know it's an attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/648">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► on television and popular culture in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► general and people don't read like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► used to and leads the the society in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► fahrenheit 451 into these terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/659">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► places it's almost like the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► the the censorship is a just comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/663">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► anymore it's not because of the state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/668">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► and so I was kind of taken aback by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/671">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► expecting and I guess I also didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► particularly appreciate that message the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► underlying conflict me that's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► about this book is a Bradbury is warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► against political correctness raisuli in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► a time before they had that language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► because he says the danger that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► contradictory that they confuse people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► you know they hurt people's feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/699">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► marginalized people felt excluded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/703">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► great works of literature there weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► written to them or that said truths that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► they didn't agree with so culture had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► be dumbed down and made polite and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► good for everybody and it's kinda spooky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/715">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► when you have to see how that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► played out in the actual arena of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► political correctness gets used as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► the other thing I would say is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/726">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► a very romantic book about the power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► words and it strikes strikes me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/731">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► that comes from the place that bribery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► autodidact he's a guy who never went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► college but he wanted to show the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► he was an educated person and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/745">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► thing that I think is so funny is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/749">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► scene where he starts reading poetry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► his wife milled at Mildred and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► friends to try and show them what has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► been lost the unplug their screen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► right and the poem he chooses is matthew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► arnold Dover Beach now this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/764">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► this is I'm a great fan of people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► reading literature and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► to hell with whether you know where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► comes from go ahead and read it and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► if you can connect with it but matthew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/776">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► arnold is not something you just pick up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/777">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► and have got a reaction to you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► like I keep that in my wallet come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► and if you've never experienced anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/787">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► remotely like that before why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► those words in that order make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► suddenly break down and cry i just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► not buy head for a second yet maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► there if there were a poem that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► make me break down and cry it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/799">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► no you're right and your age on it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► me feel icky to when I got to that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/804">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► because I mean basically what he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► specifically I can't I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► something to quote here directly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► it's basically like well you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► the problem was that you'd write a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/814">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and the women would complain or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► write a book and the Negroes would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► complain and so they had to make these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► dumb books that nobody complained about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/820">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► in that ruined everything i'm like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► no no no I mean if it's just for being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/825">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► the the idea that that the solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/831">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► that is to write books that are more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/833">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► more you know bland is ridiculous I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► I think it's become clear in this day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/840">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► and age of the the answer to that is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► more books by all kinds of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► I love the idea why i hate i'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/848">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► loving quotes that the idea that his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► thought is that yes it's it's the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/854">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► know it's the white men that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► producing all of these books and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/857">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► of that we need to think about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/860">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► minorities that was that just kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/862">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► coming up over and over again we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/864">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► think about it already is right and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► basically he's saying we need to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► them things that are not going to upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► there's never any thought that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► perhaps these quote-unquote minorities I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► mean women not exactly minority could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► producing things from their own point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► view that's that's just not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► that ever enters into his head as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/886">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► narrator of this book even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► walls and by the way these are both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► essentially television large television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/894">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► which is kind of fun in fahrenheit 451 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► there are just walls that our television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► screens and a guy Montag's wife is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► getting on him about how she wants the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► fourth wall to be a screen to so they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► be it's kind of like virtual reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/912">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► that basically will be inside a box of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/914">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► television and so the characters on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► shows are watching will be all around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/919">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► them and so as a as a satire of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/920">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► almost like reality TV and all that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► can see it i'm not sure if I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► totally behind it but i was i was struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► by the fact that it what it's not it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► it's politics are very different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► something like 1984 it's politics are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/938">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► decrying about of a kind of a coarsening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► culture that does not appreciate great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► art which is not at all the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► story is something that you get in 94 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► something like brave new world and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► it's also bad government overreach to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► mean this he was writing this after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/959">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► whole house of unemployed american path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/961">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► house on American Activities Committee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► was going on and you know this was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/966">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► anti-intellectualism of that and so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/972">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► yeah it's it's about the power of words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/976">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► where 1984 a lot of your other dystopian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/979">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► novels are about the crushing power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/982">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► words maybe or the the destruction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► the words whereas this is literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► destroying the books but the words will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/990">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► save you on in both emotions these books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/993">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► there are there are no illicit materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► that are found in and and red and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/998">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► you know there are there are acts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► rebellion and things like that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► have they do definitely have things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► common and of course in this case in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► representative it's a functionary in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► this totalitarian society who it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► disaffected and partakes of the band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► material i mean they do have things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► common even though they're coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► pretty different sorts of places i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► Bradbury is still hopeful where Orwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► is absolutely not no it's debatable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► there might be a little help there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► we'll get we'll get to that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► thing that's funny about this book for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► me and it struck me reading through both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► times is there's there's a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► that's just kind of tacked on a because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► Bradbury I don't think kind of could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► figure out what he wanted to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► whole into this book is if focuses on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► the fact that there's been rumors of war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► going on throughout the entire book they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► they just keep handing a war happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► war happening and then suddenly the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► that he's in has just blown up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► they're like oh well we guess we better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► go back and rebuild everything of a kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► of trash back into the civilian it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► sort of like where did that come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► if the end is really weird like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► becomes a chase scene sort of and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► there's the he finds the like the hobo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► camp of college professors and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► yeah it's like that's the happy ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► yeah the the happy ending is the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► that civilization has just been doomed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► and now we can rebuild it in and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► internet in a new way in the old way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► that's right well the stupid people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► in the city and there's I so that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► burned like books exactly as they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► be and you know Orwell was writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► straight novel where is Bradbury's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► reading pulp stories in the fellas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► then threading them together and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► part of why this is in parts and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► why it's a little disjointed and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► away just start suddenly becomes a chase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► and then suddenly ends it's like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► hit I hit my number where the editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► said it was good and that's it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► just kind of left to reach my workout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► i'm just thinking of the parallels now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► which I didn't really think before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► because in addition to him being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► functionary you've got his his a boss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► who basically kind of like lets him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► on the secrets and says it's okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► you know in this case Montague boss says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► you know everything happens every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► fireman you just bring the book back you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► get 24 hours it's not a big deal you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► know we'll we'll make it work and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► that's similar to a point to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► happens in 1984 the idea that there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► mean it is a clever like elevator pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► which is in the future there are firemen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► that's right that's right that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► clever and he's and he's troubled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► the Hound is an interesting character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► there's a lot of there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► interesting stuff here the big screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► and the the the the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► essentially although they're in Eric I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► sure that you have similar feelings to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► me it's like it is a very gendered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► oh the women with their soap operas are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► nattering on and they're so annoying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► it's it you know it's not it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► the women who are seen as as kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► throwing away their time on the on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► yeah every single woman in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► story is is that basically and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► men are either the firemen or the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:05 ◼ ► guy who invents this magical machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1205">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► and loves books or a whole bunch of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► hobo college professors I don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► any women being in that group yeah other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► than Clarice is the only exception right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► who who is the young woman who you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► to him in both novels though it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► woman who's going to save you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► or or at least lift the spirits of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► main character Clarice and Julia are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► parallel rhesus is really i mean i hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► to use the word you know Matt Pixie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► dream girl but please is ambiguous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► exactly she asleep yeah prototype which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► is why I didn't quit her with women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► because she's a girl for sure Julia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► kinda is too will get there but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► they're both kinda like that but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► mean they're not Katniss or anything if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► you see the movie day is Truffaut makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► a couple of really good choices and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► of them is he makes Clarice like 20 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► schoolteacher and so that takes away a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► lot of kind of goofiness of Montag's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► the other thing that did Truffaut does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► is at the end of the book when montage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► makes it to the society of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► memorized the books the people they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► actually sit there and memorize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► books there's a wonderful sequence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► the end of the movie where you see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► people repeating the words of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► literature out loud and they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► to commit this to memory and it-it-it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► seen as an arduous and a very precarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► task you can you feel like oh any second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► you know Hamlet is going to suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► become hamblett or something and it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► but in the book it's all kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► waved away like they say we've we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► discovered a magical way to make people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► yeah I guess he's trying to get to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► all tradition and connect that to books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► and say that this is all part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► long chain in human society but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► the irony here is if you go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► ancient sources the ancient Greeks were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► very distrustful of people starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► learn to write because they said now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► you're gonna lose your memory and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► terrible you know we're going like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► idea of people writing down Homer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► because before then people memorize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► Homer I am kinda down on this but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► are some moments in here that are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► spectacular and the one that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► attempted suicide because it's told so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► matter-of-factly and and and she just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► she swallowed all the pills again and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► called someone and they basically said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► like plumbers to the house to pump her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► stomach and layer down she doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► taken away and then the next day she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► doesn't even remember or think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► and you get the sense that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► something that she just she does and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:44 ◼ ► what I like about that is not only is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1364">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► undercurrent that like these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► miserable but won't let themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► believe they're miserable and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► society is very helpful in not letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► them die so they're just sort of stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► yeah like the plumber guys are like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► know we've got three more calls like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► this we gotta go buddy it's not just her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► and then when he says what happens if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► she doesn't get any better and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► there i will just call us again will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► yeah yeah so weird thats that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► stuck with me that was a that was a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► nice creepy moment of light because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► know on the surface it is this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► Sonny gave Sonny scene and then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► beneath the surface it's just like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► yeah she tried to kill herself again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► will you know just call the guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► we'll fix it up until next time to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► credit that was that was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► moments that I enjoyed the most pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► wise because that is one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► times that we experience the jets flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► overhead as well right you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► realizes when his wife is done at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► same time like you know the sky is split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► by this the scream of a jacket or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► it was it was it was a beautiful moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► in a lot of ways and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► immediately went right back to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► completely matter of fact and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► these guys with their weird snake to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► the thing I like the best was when favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1437">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► spent like three pages explaining to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► Montague this exciting little earpiece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► he was going to give him because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► because Montague was so blown away by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► the idea that there was this radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► receiver that was going to stick into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► his ear and he lives in a world where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► they have freaking the hounds running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► around the place but this is what blows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► yeah it's weird it's a weird book there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► there there are things that i like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► um well it's not sort of what i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► expecting and I i don't think i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► say that I i like the name on tagged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► isn't even like he's barely a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► I mean we did we get his inner life but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► it didn't feel very lively which I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► is kind of part of the point because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► know he's been downtrodden by his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► society but I feel like instead of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► as his awakening into understanding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► no books are important instead of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► making him more interesting what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► actually was the opposite i got more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► more annoyed with him as his thinks when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► I was just like I don't care about you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► don't care about the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► think I'd I was more interested in favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► like I wanted to see what he was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► do but right now is just off to st. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► Louis or whatever and we didn't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► watch it is i mean it is a weird I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► it goes hand-in-hand with bribery's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► take on this being a cultural kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► degradation that happens when society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► becomes disconnected from you know art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► and other things that are the roots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► society and so it just becomes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► materialistic you know it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► just fast cars and everybody's violent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► and that's all that that's all that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► in the society is cars and and talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► to your TV's in every single bribery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► I don't know what he's complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► I mean he's the guy everyone who writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► who's really running violator every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► yeah finances inside us all the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► sort of the actual structure that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► get about society is is the fireman like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► you don't hear a whole lot more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► about other stuff you know you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► hound and the other police sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► chasing him but it it's implied that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► it's not a big deal to just run somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► over with a car because if somebody in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► car turns around and to try to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► second run and Montague's he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► get away because they missing the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► time so like they in and being shot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► it's not a big deal because that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► to a bunch of people in the high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► so it seems like there's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► consequences for that sort of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► then somewhere toward the end you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► him or still one of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► talking about how how this must be why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► other countries like outside of of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► country hate them so much and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► one of the things that really made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► think about the United States of today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► because I having since i moved to Canada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► I've realized that the sort of i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► say anti-american but just like home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► OMG America sentiment is but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► stronger than I thought it was living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► well I I still maintain that it is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► book i liked it mostly because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► it appeals to my inner elitism and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► think that more people should read books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► about has bad it is surely this out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► it looks like you're gonna let your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► shiny gold flag shine don't hide your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► elitism under a bushel I I won't but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► know either there was a study that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► came out a little while ago that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► ridiculous number have not read one book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► in the last year and that just blows my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► we have got to get political but we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► a president who just does not like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► read books which is struggling to meet I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► just feel like it's important and Ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► Bradbury is writing to someone like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► who feels like you know for every decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► societies crumbling because not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► people read it's a perennial problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► which I guess means it's not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► but I don't like it the incomparable is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► brought to you in part by Casper Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1676">TS</a>]
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00:28:05 ◼ ► sleeping on a Casper mattress for I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► gonna say a couple of years now and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► mattress i had before supportive memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1691">TS</a>]
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00:28:17 ◼ ► the right balance time magazine named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► one of the best inventions of 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1699">TS</a>]
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00:28:28 ◼ ► Casper it comes to shrink wrapped in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► box you order it on the internet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1710">TS</a>]
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00:28:33 ◼ ► expands to fill the space and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► try it out and if you don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► guess what you are at no risk from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1717">TS</a>]
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00:28:44 ◼ ► three months and if you don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► they will pick it up and refund you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► Casper really understands this you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► to sleep on a mattress for a few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► maybe even for a few weeks before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► can really be sure that it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► right for you because you are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► spend a third of your life sleeping on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► mattress so it better be good and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► don't like it you send it back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► love mine so I didn't send it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► there's free shipping and returns in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1750">TS</a>]
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00:29:19 ◼ ► on a 5-point scale so it's quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► mattress even the internet needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1764">TS</a>]
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00:29:45 ◼ ► Casper for sponsoring the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► alright let's let's talk let's go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► airstrip one and talk about nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► eighty-four George Orwell is classic I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1794">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► was telling my wife managed to never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► read this book i guess like Erica and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► said to her in the past i said to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► again I i think it's worth a read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► I think it is one of the great books of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► the 20th century and I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► I had no memory of it either other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► little flashes i read this too young i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► would say I read this in 1984 but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► in eighth grade then and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► that I could not understand a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► stuff i think i could have used another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► three or four years honestly and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► have appreciated a much more but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► really appreciated going back as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► dystopian future that is now past I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► that Star Trek does that a lot to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► great the eighties oh my god it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► far future where uh where there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► totality is it the eighties we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► know he doesn't even know it probably is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► actually even know what year it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► super-state one of three in the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► Virginia and airstrip one is the former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► great britain and he's in London winston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► smith and he works for the the party the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► English socialist party in stock and ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► he works for uh hehe is a redactor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► essentially he revises old newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► articles to reflect whatever the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► political winds are and so if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► is made to disappear or if if they cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► the chocolate ration he might have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► rewrite articles to make them seem like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► the chocolate ration was always that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► it wasn't cut or perhaps was so low that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► that that the cut seems like a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► increase and that's his job and he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► dissident and and doesn't really believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► in all of this and has carved out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► little hole in his apartment where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► cannot be seen by the ever-present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► telescreens which our TV screens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► cannot be shut off and can look at you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► two and which is very max headroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► actually uh yeah so that that's a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► did I enjoy reading it isn't 1984 meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► I suspect not but I appreciated the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► work of it overall whatever whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► else is history with this thing Erica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► never read it before no i didnt the ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► this book was not one that was required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► in for any of the classes that I like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► my school so it wasn't even around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► other classes were reading it I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► kind of knew of it because you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► been part of the part of society for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► long kind of slipped the phrase big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► brother is watching is something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► churn even I I knew even before Big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► Brother the reality TV show ya where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► Bradbury shakes his fist somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► John reality baby thank you thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► are well for for that show you know ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► but yeah so it was it was interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► watch you know I think if watch read huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► watch the pages was just why right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► the thing is i did watch the the John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► Hurt version of the movie as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► let's let's not talk about no yeah I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► do agree that it is a good book it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► not I I didn't enjoy it either but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► laughs enjoy still weird word to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► because i think that it if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► something out of it that sort of counts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► as enjoyment on on some level and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► not even sure I got that out of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► think it's a very well done book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► doing what it try it was trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► fairly solidly but it's not a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► I'm like I'm I guess I'm kind of glad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► read it once but but i don't know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► this point in history it was much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► difficult to read than i expected it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► me and I expected it to be difficult i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► feel like there's a basic cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► literacy though about it but there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► much refers to it that knowing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► details of it i think is helpful in just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► how people refer to it because it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► is such a part of me has such a currency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► and in so many different terms that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► use now I feel like it's got gain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► cultural status that like of the Mona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► Lisa where you don't even you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► experience the Mona Lisa you are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► experience the experience of CM the mona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► lisa station so it's kind of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► know you don't really need to read 1984 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► to reference 1984 understand i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► whatever that means right you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► understand the full importance but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► sure that you should read the books you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► should be doing that is my bold step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► looks best when red is what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► got it did you remember this book uh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► remember reading it I remember account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► that I knew nothing of what happened i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► remember the telescreens and big brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► always watching but that was about all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► read i remembered i remember too happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► ending and there's not a happy ending in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► this book so I don't know where I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► from with that but I don't know he seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► pretty happy at the end he looked big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► it's a love story John what's your from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► oh I I read this in high school I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► it was assigned to me we had animal farm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► assigned to us by red 1984 i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► a bunch of the air air how you mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► they vote in the early eighties for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► these really grungy dystopias i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► was something about the Reagan years era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► that did that but i read this i read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► clockwork orange or red all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► and at the time it seemed funnier to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► is it as a high school student i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► here yeah I thought I was too cool for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► school and kind of cynical as i read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► now it's just kind of unrelentingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► oppressive and/or will makes this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► very early on and i think the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► thing that has happened in the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► Orwell's essays and I think that he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► better a serious than he is a novelist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► and certainly a lot of the ideas that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► covers in 1984 are covered in his essay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► politics in the English language which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► is one of the greatest asset is written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► in English the other greatest SI being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► shooting an elephant which is also by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► george orwell and-and-and there he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► allowed to be a little bit more direct a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► he's not playing with irony the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► he is in this book and so it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► he's a little more decent to the reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► you can't judge a book on whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► you it brings you enjoyment in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► there are certainly points to this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► where you feel chills or you profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► disturbed and there are profoundly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► starkly beautiful images but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► also a lot of that xserve expositional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► writing where people spend a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► saying as you know this this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► but let me explain it to you anyway let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► me read you this book that explains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► see that that's something that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► tell that he is an SAS and this actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► reminded me to of brave new world which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► which john i read for sophomore lid on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► 74 you haven't done an episode about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► that for sophomore let ya know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► pretty striking while the iron is hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► you just read it you don't have to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► together on the both of those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► basically stopped for you to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► another work that is going to be quoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► at length and I always felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► was kind of a a cheap trick that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► it's basically like here's this book by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► Manuel goldsteins you should read it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► then like we proceeded to read large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► passenger but yes I was gonna say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► know I that Johnny I believe you that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► is a better SAS know but you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► never read any of his essays oh wait yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► I have this right it looks like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► you know yeah and that was that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► when he's like okay as a novelist she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► like throwing up his hands like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► right I'm gonna have a marine SI and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► here it is that was kind of the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► that I sort of just jumped off in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► now i really like the topic I ain't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► enjoyed the beginning because i was sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► of you know feeling out the edges of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► this world from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► main character and I think thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► was very skillfully done it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► interesting to discover the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► world worked piece by piece as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► being revealed to us through the eyes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► this Porsche lobby character but as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► went on this Porsche lobby character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► that kind of same as in Fahrenheit 451 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► I didn't really care that much about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► character and yes again i'm sure it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► it is a part of that world you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► have all that much in her life because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► you've been so stamped down from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► nothing once I've kind of gotten an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► of the world he inhabited nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► sort of drew me to him and then we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► this female character who I'm excited by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► it first and then realize oh no she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► not really treated hell that well either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► from the point of view of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► writer she doesn't she doesn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► about anything she wants to get laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► okay well so I just and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► essay and at that point I was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► I don't care anymore excusing the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► of this sucker i can see both sides of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► it right because yes on one level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► she's just having sex with people but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► another level i would say this is her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► act of rebellion against the state she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► forced to be in the anti-sex League you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► know all these things and this is her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► act of rebellion which was good i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► thought that was cool and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► it but then and then she falls in love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► with him which I have mixed feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► about you know love love can be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► but then that becomes her only defining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► character characteristic for the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► the book she doesn't really care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► rebelling against Big Brother she's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► so that she can be close to the man that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► she has fallen in love with after all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► that sexy show so sharp edged up to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► up to that point and then she just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► of recedes into the background right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► yeah David I didn't give you a chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► yeah I i actually had the commemorative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► 1984 edition right when the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► blocky chunky letter up lettering on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► cover when i read in 8th grade and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► but i but i never got through it until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► 1988-89 in senior year and yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► it reads really differently when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► teen because you know at that point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► know I'd been reading a lot of science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► fiction but so I appreciate the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► building and you're kinda like all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► combination of words no doublethink ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► whoo that's great and and then you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► getting into the the characters and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► story you're like okay that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► yeah and now it's the you know the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► building is still very good but now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► you see the the combinations of words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► and the double think the inn in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► life and you're going oh that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► really clever with world-building that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► Oh God and it's much darker and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► depressing so I mean it i would say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► is a great book i can't say i like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► but it's a great book you have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► should read it one of the nice things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► sophomore lid which is good i recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► it to people it's a it's a really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► although John you and Elliot sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► spent a lot of time like not talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► about the book before perfect talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► about the book but the point that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► think Elliot made in that episode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► george orwell eric blair was a socialist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► but he was also waste a pretty strident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► anti Stalinist and that a lot of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► work is commentary on you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► just about like future peril it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► the Soviet Union and about the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► information is controlled in the Soviet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► Union and so great you know that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► you know some of what he's doing here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► not is not a warning about the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► it's a warning about his present and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► think that's kind of one interesting way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► of looking at it also getting back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► him being an SAS yeah you can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► read this whole book as being somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► who is really interested in the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► a new language that suppresses nuanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► and that you can control your society by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► coming up with a new language and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► he kind of built a whole story around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► sometimes the Newspeak is what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► kind of about and the fact that it ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► with a lengthy essay about Newspeak that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► is interestingly enough and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► glimmer of hope it is written kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► from an in world perspective word is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► referred to as something that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► in the past but it's written standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► English so the suggestion is that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► end this regime did fall and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► English standard English returned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► because of that sa but I but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► that aside it sort of feels to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► the essay was really wanted to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► andrea was a way to explore those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► concepts about what if we had you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► double plus good and I'm good and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► know I and and boiling the language down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► to this tiny controlled set of words one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► that was kind of thing at the time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► taking a thought experiment and building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► it out and then turning it into a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► and say okay what would we do in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► situation and and so it's not written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► like like a prose craftsman like coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► everything it's it's how can we tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► this lesson through fiction and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► the Inklings doodle did it a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► there's I mean there's literally like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► hundred and fifty page segment of Atlas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► Shrugged that is a radio speech that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► supposedly takes an hour and like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► that's about five days I i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► it's worth reading this book simply for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► this very reason because today we're so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► steeped in server a post Raymond Carver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► world where in the literary world at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► least the the pinnacle of literature is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► writing convincing characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► writing convincing dialogue and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► this and run these moments that feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► real and we've got we've gotten kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► so into that and we forgot that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► are other ways to write books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► certainly I think the mid-century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► ideabooks I mean with brave new world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► was ideabook this is an idea but yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► lot of science fiction around this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► are ideabooks but a lot of major works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► of literature are were ideabooks too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► think what's interesting when you when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► you mentioned that Jason that the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► essay they're being written serve in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► World the about the Newspeak it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► reminded me why I was reading it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► handmaid's tale which is also lets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► was sort of this ostensibly scholarly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► look back on the book you've just read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► and it kind of it has very strict a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► strange effect where your kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► invited to look at this whole book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► you've wrapped in now as well we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► know whether this was true or not or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► whether this was a work of propaganda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► or what it was and up till now you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► been very deeply invested in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► characters and and that's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► people point to that ending of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► is though it's something kind of a Miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► misstep almost i don't know i don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► to read that book but it had that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► effect at the end of 94 of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► popping me out of this world and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► me look at everything as you know ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► and stand-ins for you know Stalinism or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► whatever it's funny you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► margaret atwood right because one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► pieces that i read in prepping for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► podcast isn't is an essay by margaret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► atwood about that final essay in 1984 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► handmaid's tale and she she's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► those people who believes that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► you need to read it as a not just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► know it's not written as hey it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► george orwell let me talk about Newspeak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► it's like scholarly work in world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► you know science fiction readers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► more used to that conceit maybe then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► mainstream stuff but it's an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► distinction that it's it's sort of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► breaking the the the wall in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► talk about how the book was done it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► been it's instead this retrospective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► thing but I mean you also see that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► is what drives him this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► stuff he's most interested in we've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► it in something like politics in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► English language this is the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► george orwell was fascinated by and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► the story itself i do think the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► suffers in from modernize in the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► that we have seen a lot of dystopias now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► and and so perhaps it in 1949 this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► have been a lot fresher but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► people have done this kind of dystopian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► since then so there's there's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► shocked in in in what you see in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► although they're funny moments I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► you you know that the the it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► like a comedy gag where he keeps taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► out of cigarettes and the tobacco flies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► that's money and make and and they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► about the victory gin which I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► don't even want to know what's in it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► it's he describes in detail and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► second and it sounds terrible oily yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► that's good in the end the coffee that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► not any good and the chocolate rations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► which when he finally have some real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► chocolate he describes what the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► chocolate tastes like after complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► about them cutting the rations and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► like something that was from like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► it's like the Ash left over after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► something burned is what the chocolate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► tastes like so there's i do think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► there's some funny things in there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► or when O'Brien uh gives him a drink and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► something i was i was gonna ask erica to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► how much of knowing the tropes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► knowing the details you know coming at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► this fresh it's it's you know you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► know those things and like even my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► children no big brother than a Winston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► Smith they know we have always they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► jokes we have always been at war with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► brother right now see I didn't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► that they haven't read the book right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► but they've seen references to it online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► they've seen references and TV shows or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► other things and so we were talking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► over like the other day the 15 year olds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► like when he reading is 1984 and the int [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► war is peace and you know and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► commercial for whose adaptation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► handmade and the handmaid's tale comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► on and he's riveted he's like what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► so it's based on a book by margaret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► atwood what's going on well here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► basic story and he got more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► upset as i was telling him just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► blurb from the book right and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► even you know that's like the tiniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► amount of detail of the thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► think i'm curious to see what happens if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► and when he reads that without any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► the preamble that he had four 1984 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► yeah he's hurt at all yeah well I've I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► felt like I really only had the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► broadest broad strokes I I knew even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► less than your kids did I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► the characters name you know if I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► the phrase Ministry of Truth didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► actually know what it referred to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► they knew that long five uses the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:52 ◼ ► terms and that's a 94 reference you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2992">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► that actually probably is where i doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► and it's another 30 number huh and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► yes I used Italian totalitarian society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► and he and I knew the big brother you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► know they were they were being watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► all the time and i think i heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► police that really that was it I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► for me it was it was sort of like I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► these tentpole phrases and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► was just sort of coloring in and filling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► it in but I certainly as difficult as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► was to read in part because of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► the world is today but it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► nothing compared to what I experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► when i read The Handmaid's Tale which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► many years ago because that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► felt like a personal story told right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► this was the outline of a character who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► was you know sort of swooping his way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► yeah I will say also that not to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► trivialize this but I mean when you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► to the point where star trek the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► generation does an entire hour about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► breaking a character in a bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► torture chamber in order to get them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► say two plus two is five essentially i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► think that we've you know as a society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► we have as a as a pop culture we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► processed what happens in the last act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► 1984 and kind of spat it out the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► side now so as effective as it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► think that at the same time like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► all processed it now and that that is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► feel bad because that you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► this is what happens to works that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► this influential is that it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► judge them as being as influential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► unites deserving as they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► because all of it has you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► seriously you read that and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► oh yeah there are there are four lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► right i mean it's like it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► thing and it's like yeah okay but almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► every 1960 spy TV show did a variation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► on the Asher sequence right was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► let's play the entire here in our room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► and break him and the entirety of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► prisoners especially and and when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► so young adult novels and held today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► exactly right so that you see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► influence influential nature of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► that makes it hard to kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► it's hard to hard to judge it there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► wanted the the thing decor this we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► talked about it a little bit but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► thing that really i think has the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► controlling information and and yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► language and how people talk and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► idea of getting people to believe things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► it in the in a way like fahrenheit 451 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► some of the people don't care but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► its this complete control like if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:26 ◼ ► tell you something that is false and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3146">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► say it's true then you will believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► and if you if you try to check up on us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► information its kind of gas lighting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► a grand scale like then all of your all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► of your all of your reference material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► will agree with the lie and at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► Smith and when he's being tortured says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► to himself well everything in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► happens in our minds as interpreted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► our minds and every mind believes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► thing to be true then is it not true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► I thought I found that fascinating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► idea that that its core this is a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► about complete control of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► and that if you can control information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► you control reality because that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► yeah I i used to work at a biotech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► company that in was interested the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► is interested in research into the brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► and some really kind of out-there stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► and we would have conferences from time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► to time and some of the presentations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► the conference's talking about brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► chemistry and the way the human brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► processes its input and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► what the nature of reality is and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► themselves to the idea that that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► that everybody just choosing to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► something different and in that this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► character is the guy who's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► crazy and it's everybody else that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► saying isn't that far off from some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► theories that I had learned about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► path so that was that was uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► in an entirely different level like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► my god what what if he did flowed out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► the room but that could be a thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► yeah it was trippy it's also i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► talking about the earpiece in fahrenheit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► 451 and there's some there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► interesting tech and brave new world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► that John and I talked about an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► that episode of sophomore lit in 1984 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► it is in a totalitarian state with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► complete surveillance like Winston Smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► got his little cubbyhole where he cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► make noise but he can write in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► notebook without being seen by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► telescreen but I'm struck by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► that there's no I mean other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► location surveillance so it nor is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► a it seems like a like a data trail kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► of concept so he's able to get on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► train out into the country and walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► around and end up in the woods and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► meet Julia and he's able to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► maybe they go by different means in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► they're followed but I did think oh haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► yeah you can do that today right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► you would have to explain why your cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► phone wasn't on or leave it behind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► you'd be you have to pay for the ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► with a code that is tied to you and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► these things that I kept thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► technology has created plenty more ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► to exert control over population than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► yeah and actually in in that case it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► almost a little more fahrenheit 451 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► esque in that you know the population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► has voluntarily given up information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► about where they are i mean how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► people have their GPS just turned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► their cell phone all the time whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► you know if they if they did have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► technology right it would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► difficult for them to to sneak away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► interesting world in that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► actually very little high technology in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► this world it's it's all just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► reconfiguring things that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► existed in 1948 when he was writing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► book but the the and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► that's interesting to me is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► it seems to be kind of left to their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► devices they seem to be they seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► have more of a connection to the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► and what's interesting is that being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► member of the upper class seems to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► trap as far as as Winston is concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► but it it it's remarkable in a way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► book you know I was talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► Bradbury as a kind of an autodidact was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► and making a case for elitism or well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► gentility he is like his grandfather had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► a noble title i don't think it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► persisted to is his day but he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► through you know all the education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► everything but but he let his life like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► living amongst the slums and he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► wrote a book about like living rough in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► the streets of Paris and London and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► he has this kind of a romantic view of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► what it means to be poor and it's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► like you know the pulp song common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► people i always feel it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► condescending I i'm struck the polls are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► very interesting in this because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► they have their they have the bars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► they they get to drink beer and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► be those of they can read things I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► it the the whatever they said seventeen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► percent of the population who can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► and they have their lottery that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► talk about I mean you you get it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► little bit of like the preparations for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► like they have sport they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► football and beer and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► and they're there in some ways they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► happier than the miserable people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► party in the outer party like winston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► smith that's interesting also a unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► something like like brave new world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► which is is weird and creepy but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► also super shiny and futuristic one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► the things that Orwell doesn't do here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► is have 1984b futuristic anyway there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► are the telescreens and they provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► this this complete viewing of everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► they can see you but like the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► everything is rationed and they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► buildings everything is run down and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► can get this grimy you get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► that the whole world yeah there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► neighbors the pipe in the neighbors sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► and he looks at her and says she looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► almost like she has dust in the cracks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► you know in the increases in her face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► and then she stands in better light was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► like oh she does she does have dust on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► her face because everything is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► and battered and falling apart and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► kinda like that about it that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► Aidan you know it's not a futuristic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► world where we've traded our freedom for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3533">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► government where nobody has anything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► tries to find out find an old pro who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► could tell him like was it better in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► old days who cannot answer his question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► but I I like that about it yeah and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► ties into what John was saying earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► about the technology really just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► you know somewhat being a rehash of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► technology that they had him and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► makes a point in one of the sah parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► i'm talking about why that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► because you're quashing so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► the creativity in the free thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► mean the one person the guy who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► helping make the Newspeak dictionary the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► 11th version i had actually had such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► quick mind and with was an intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► fellow my mind of course Winston Winston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► yes once knew he was going to disappear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► and then and then he did because anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► who is it is smart and creative enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► to come up with a new technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► would be helpful for everyone gets gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:49 ◼ ► disappeared and vaporize pretty quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3589">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► engineers are set to just improving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3593">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► when they already have the the nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► bomb that can kill most effectively but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► they spend all their time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► fortresses that are slightly better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► others just to use up the resources so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► yes I'm story is really great because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► that is a that is a wonderful bit piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► of I think satire as well which is which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► is Simon is a true believer right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► believes in the party and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► that's going on but he's still a threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► because he's too smart and he he don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► want they don't want people who are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► intelligent and can think that far ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► because that is dangerous to the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► the party doesn't want outliers even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► they're on the parties side and so sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► even though he's totally on the side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► the party because he's just he's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► bright and to creative and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► that is a very cutting thing about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► like this is not this is not a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► designed to bring out the best in people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► and to advance the best people it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► is meant to crush everybody even at its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► own death into its own detriment which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► yeah and the character of persons who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► kind of the opposite is he's he's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► idiot but he's totally into the party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► he he does the activities he raises the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► money for the bunting he's teaching his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► kids to be good and of course they spy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► on him and his supposedly in his sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► he was talking about death big brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► and so he ends up in prison and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► assumes killed sure you're wanted on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► core 101 right yeah yeah it's a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► person's Parsons rides rises high in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► party because he is he is he's dumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► and a true believer right and so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► he's not threatening in any way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► actually I mean if you back it out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► in brave new world there are a lot of we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► see into the inner workings of the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► of titans who control that society and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► in 1984 we don't like we see a Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3717">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► who's in the inner party and he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► wine to prove it right but like big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► brother is strongly and prot implied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► that big brother does not exist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► perhaps never did exist and you do one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► of the things i kinda like also about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► it's like an empty machine like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► society is running itself at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► interesting because if there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► in positions of power then they can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► corrupt and they can be taken advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► of or they can overthrow the system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► in 1984 i think one of the chilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► things about it is there are no leaders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► big brother is as far as we can tell not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► everybody's just cogs man yeah even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► though Brian right although I i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► from a plot perspective ask i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► quite sure why O'Brien invest all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► time he does into inviting Winston at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► and Julia over and talking to them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► giving them the book and then they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► him and then they spend all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► deconstructing again is are they doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► it you know he's doing it for fun is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► this to keep O'Brien busy it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:10 ◼ ► a lot of work to just screw around with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3790">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► this one guy who's just rewriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► newspaper articles it it may just be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► yeah well i think i've read it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► O'Brien is a zealot and this is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► passion is making minds perfect before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► yeah and you know here's here's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► the heat he sees an opportunity because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► I mean it seems like he planted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► seed himself seven years ago because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► mean unless unless we're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:38 ◼ ► believe that Winston is psychic somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3818">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► which I doubt O'Brien that's somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► spoke to him probably through the Big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► Brother screen saying we will be no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► beat in the place where never any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► whatever it be exact scripters so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► so so really he has it you know he this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► is this is past time he gets off on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► you know he's not a serial killer he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► serial reshape ER killer the cereal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► grain washer and I think I imagine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► his job to to root out these kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► troublesome because it seems clear at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► the end that they knew everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► Winston was doing yeah along every step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► you know real free freedom to do what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3862">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► was doing he thought it was getting away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► with everything he wasn't getting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► anything and so I think it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► self-perpetuating and then you create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► resistance I mean that the the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► creating enemies and creating and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► showing them being dispatched I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► could argue that that's also what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► going on here is one way to prevent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► their from being a real resistance is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► having a lot of thought police acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► like they're the resistance and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► snagging those interesting people and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:57 ◼ ► that point one you either get caught by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3897">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► the thought police or to you become so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► petrified that anybody could be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► thought police that you do nothing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:04 ◼ ► which point you know either way there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3904">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► no resistance and then the acts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► resistance are meaningless anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► like having sex you you're not supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► to enjoy sex but it doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► matter if you do or not but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► think you're getting away with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► that you're not you're just doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► the party wants to do anything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► Winston I think Winston feels that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► to right i mean he he says that he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► knows he's going to be killed for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► he knows he's going to be caught and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► he also believes that the one thing they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► is that what he thinks he's turned his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► hatred of Big Brother and at the end he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► yep yep although he does I mean he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► say I he's doing he's doing double think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► at that point right he is he is holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► within his heart the knowledge that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► has this other set of thoughts but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► not you know but he's also also loving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► big brother i think i found that ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► a little less concrete than i did when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► read it as a teenager about about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► it Winston Smith really leaves off in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► that he loved big brother I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► entirely believe that he truly loves big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► brother big brother and that's all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► that moment I mean maybe it's enough but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► I i don't i don't believe it as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► I used to I feel like butt but even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► he's capable of doing doublethink which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:22 ◼ ► is what the whole party was your party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► has one anyway yes oh yeah no doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► although there is an earlier you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► when it ends he has you know he's fallen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► in love with big brother but he hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► earlier on you here have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► thinking to himself about how if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► just keep one tiny little corner of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► himself and you know let that corner but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► let that hatred hatred flag fly at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► moment before he was shot right back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► the head then then he will have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► right so it's it is ambiguous and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4014">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► does he manage to to unleash that hatred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► in that fury before he is actually dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► we don't know yet what it what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► doesn't do is the book does not end with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► that moment of it doesn't like The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► Sopranos right where it's like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► guy coming to kill me or is this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► another day but that is the position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► that he's in right which is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► he's been given this cushy job where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► people that was kind of funny too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► he's on like a subcommittee of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► subcommittee where people show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► sometimes the show up and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► leave because there's nothing to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► there they were given this pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► task but it's all a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► people like Winston and they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► taken care of and being paid and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► rehabilitated and then at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► they'll be shot but that's what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► that seems like a long way to go but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► that's what any other good way to use up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► resources we gotta say is an adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► of 1984 that ended with don't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► believin yeah would be amazing could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► ministry of love in the narrow wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► corridors there is just as journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► playing on a loop on the telescreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► described my room 101 and see i'd say go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:12 ◼ ► back and read shooting an elephant it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4092">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► got everything that this book doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► have it's got its got jokes it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► it's makes you think it makes you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4097">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► ultimately i think is the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► problem for me with 94 is I die I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► happy for what happened to Winston Smith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► but I really didn't like him either the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► elephant getting my dystopian future a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► little town he's kind of a blank he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► you know he's he's there like Erica said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► he's there to kind of switch you through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► the world and so that you can see it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► gonna do yeah i think i think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► right John I think I think this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► important book and I think it's good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► people to read it and be conversing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► it because it is important but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► just those two essays who are way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► well I i think sometimes you just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► to read the foundational texts the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► I agree this is clearly one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► important books of the 20th century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► completely grad it should be read either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► that's why we force people high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► career was probably not the best time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► no i agree i think i think people should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► read it because i think it's i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► you're a better person after having read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► it in terms of being conversant with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► people's references to it and also to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► think about some of these issues of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► language and how we treat information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► and facts and how in the dangers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► society gone wrong and directions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► society has gone in the past and may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► extend to see some of these techniques [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► at work in the present day or or in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► things like Max Headroom I mean max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► headroom has a lot of this DNA and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► yeah absolutely when they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► there's a reason why it's if people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► buying this book now right is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► the idea that facts are not facts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► can be changed at any time and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► have your facts and I can have my facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► and the past doesn't really exist we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► change it to what we need is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► resonant at this moment it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► reading this book is it's very chilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► when you think about now even with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► technology we have now that this could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► you know facts can change you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► hyper-vigilant and went today Winston [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► Smith would just be editing the x is CMS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► wikipedia right or already which BB n92 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► wikipedia to be in The Times a CMS that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► you know the times is what he's editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► here but yeah he's going to be in a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► page editing the web pages they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► even need to print there's a passage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► about like how they print new copies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► the old issues and put them out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► I'm like well we've got that solved now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► at my old job we have that discussion i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► remember our good pal phillip michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► said at one point we're not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► you know Soviet revisionism on articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► if we if we added an article we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► to put a big note at the bottom saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► we added this article and you see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► but one of the reasons you do that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► because otherwise you end up in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► Winston Smith situation where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► article doesn't say what it used to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► and that is not that is not good so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► much easier to do that these days than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► it was in winston smith stay back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► nineteen eighty-four track changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► technical track changes technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► advanced least wikipedia has a has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► added trail that you can see does it huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► hey brother is reminding you that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► well yeah I i do agree Scott I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► that's what I that's what my wife is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► think you should read it because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► people should read it I i think it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► is foundational and important and today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► important and it is as a communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► major from you know back in the day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► like the thoughts about how the way we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYaTA74/4328">TS</a>]
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