0:00:0077 was a hell of a wait but my
0:00:02withdrawal it sure did say eight in the
0:00:04position fetal I saw bunnies bipedal if
0:00:07you like this limerick please rate do
0:00:12you want to know what the winning
0:00:13limericks were from our limerick
0:00:15submission it wasn't really a
0:00:16competition that was just like a thing
0:00:18if there's a winner
0:00:20it's a competition Brady well there is a
0:00:22winner I sort of cobbled together a
0:00:24judging voting system which I'm sure
0:00:27will fail on several levels in the gray
0:00:30scale of appropriate voting systems but
0:00:32it's what we've got and it involves a
0:00:34combination of my votes your votes and a
0:00:37little public vote Iran on the side
0:00:40mmm we had a tie for second so
0:00:41appropriately I think we have two
0:00:43runners-up and a winner you start with
0:00:45the runners-up and then tell me who the
0:00:46winner is
0:00:46okay well you can read one of the
0:00:48runners-up really takes this ridiculous
0:00:50show two places it never should go from
0:00:53swamp and rice rants two cricketers nice
0:00:55bats grades always the last one to know
0:00:57that's our first runner-up the other
0:00:59runner-up is
0:01:00I have a message for gray I want him to
0:01:03see what I say but I know he won't read
0:01:06it will simply delete it but Brady might
0:01:08send his way but the overwhelming winner
0:01:11overwhelming the overwhelming with yeah
0:01:13yeah it was comfortable it was
0:01:15comfortably the winner
0:01:16I'll let you read it because you read
0:01:18originally my day has been fairly
0:01:20mundane when H i started up in my brain
0:01:22so I jumped to my feet but i must and
0:01:25tweet at Brady Haran i'm not on a plane
0:01:28kk that are overwhelming number one
0:01:30winner from the Limerick contest which
0:01:32is not a contest but it totally is a
0:01:33contest because if something to win now
0:01:35the other kind of vote or ballot Iran
0:01:38after the last episode was you and I
0:01:40discussed the is morphology the right
0:01:43word of the easter bunny what's the word
0:01:45for what the Easter Bunny looks like and
0:01:47how it moves and things like that the
0:01:49cryptozoology of the Easter Bunny maybe
0:01:52yeah I don't know anyway
0:01:54you and I both believe that the easter
0:01:56bunny was sort of like a standing up
0:01:58human-like bipedal character right now I
0:02:01put out there
0:02:01hmm and you weren't completely on board
0:02:03with this that a lot of people believe
0:02:05the Easter Bunny is like and on all
0:02:07fours rabbit sized rabbit
0:02:09so I did a vote like a poll on Twitter
0:02:13and ask people you know told bipedal or
0:02:16rabbit and a lot of people voted so I'm
0:02:20quite happy with the sample size m and
0:02:22the numbers were pretty consistent
0:02:24almost from the start
0:02:25that's a good sign sixty percent of
0:02:27people think the Easter Bunny is a
0:02:29standing up man in a rabbit so type
0:02:32thing and forty percent
0:02:34however as an actual bunny rabbit forty
0:02:38percent and I i was really surprised
0:02:40that's crazy
0:02:41yeah I feel like I don't understand how
0:02:43half the world thinks that makes no
0:02:46sense i know my whole belief system is
0:02:48being pulled out from underneath me with
0:02:50this information i would have assumed
0:02:51man-sized Easter Bunny 95% easy that not
0:02:57at all i just having a quick browse
0:02:59through some of the reddit comments that
0:03:00will put in someone here poo clue says
0:03:04the four-legged Easter Bunny carries the
0:03:06basket in her mouth her
0:03:08interestingly it's a little basket
0:03:10that's like the TARDIS and can hold a
0:03:12great many eggs does sound kind of
0:03:16adorable
0:03:16we have someone with the username that i
0:03:18can trade because it has a swear word in
0:03:19it but they say I used to believe that
0:03:22the bunny laid chocolate eggs
0:03:25I'm still not comfortable with the bunny
0:03:26laying the eggs that's so wrong to me
0:03:28and said lion says Easter Bunny is a
0:03:31white angora rabbit regular animal
0:03:34inform world moves around bipedally
0:03:36think March Hare huh thats of any help
0:03:40to that is ok so like Peter Rabbit ok
0:03:43who don't be so mama if that's a is that
0:03:46on the Easter rabbit front
0:03:48hey this time he is obviously a brown
0:03:51brown this time
0:03:52normal rabbit sized bunny with an
0:03:54egg-shaped backpack and he has special
0:03:57Easter hands laying the eggs for him
0:03:59okay well I'm Santa Claus ourselves
0:04:01we've got around the egg brother there
0:04:03by introducing special hands to the
0:04:05equation easter hands now
0:04:07no this isn't it is this why peeps exist
0:04:10either supposed to be chickens at Easter
0:04:12well I mean you have chickens and expose
0:04:13about new life and stuff isn't it
0:04:15although I have to say this person does
0:04:16lose credibility with the next sentence
0:04:18because they then claimed the Tooth
0:04:19Fairy is a small ferry sized being in
0:04:23green clothing obviously and there's no
0:04:25way the tooth fairy dresses in grain
0:04:27yeah the 23 is not tinkerbell let's go
0:04:29back to the hands though because i feel
0:04:31i feel immediately sold on this idea
0:04:33like oh the Easter hands are like this
0:04:35watch Pete of easter i can totally get
0:04:38behind this now you're introducing an
0:04:40unnecessary complication to the magic
0:04:42here now I think if the Easter Bunny is
0:04:44a bunny sighs bunny the hens that makes
0:04:47sense in my mind I think I can get
0:04:49behind this
0:04:49I mean obviously I'm still saying that
0:04:51the Easter Bunny's a huge person he can
0:04:53just handle it all on his own
0:04:55I don't know about the hands because
0:04:56that implies that for the rest of the
0:04:58year the Easter Bunny is like hanging
0:05:00out with a bunch of hands in like a
0:05:02house or a hotshot something like I
0:05:04don't know I just don't see records and
0:05:05hence mixing it up like that and why
0:05:08does the backpack have to be egg-shaped
0:05:10i don't know i think i think this person
0:05:13just making it up if they are making it
0:05:15up i feel like this should be the start
0:05:16of a new tradition for the people who
0:05:17think that the Easter Bunny is actually
0:05:19bunny sighs you have a whole little
0:05:20parade of animals wandering to your
0:05:22house depositing eggs i think it makes
0:05:23perfect sense i don't think it was
0:05:25implied that the hands do the trip with
0:05:28the Easter Bunny to everyone's houses I
0:05:30imagine they're back home like Santa's
0:05:32elves having done their hard work during
0:05:33the uh ok that's less adorable i was
0:05:37imagining a small parade that mr. tony
0:05:40is leading through the homes then the
0:05:42hands dispersed throughout the house to
0:05:43hide all the eggs if they're just
0:05:45staying back home in the hatchery or
0:05:47whatever that's not as interesting i
0:05:48don't like that as much obviously when I
0:05:50posed the question is the Easter Bunny
0:05:51like a standing up person or a rabbit
0:05:54special shout-out to all those people on
0:05:56the internet who replied neither that
0:05:58used to burn using real it made up your
0:06:02awesome thanks man
0:06:05that's what we were looking for that's
0:06:07exactly the answer is lookin for ya meet
0:06:12security Brady I'm sorry I got you a
0:06:14little bit excited by writing meet
0:06:16security in our show notes and you like
0:06:18text means it may security that there's
0:06:19also i haven't actually got much to say
0:06:22other then make security is like a much
0:06:26bigger thing than I realized who like I
0:06:28really brought up how amazed i was that
0:06:30when I was buying a stake at the
0:06:31supermarket it had level the security
0:06:33labels on it and you couldn't just walk
0:06:35out with that
0:06:35not that I was trying to work out with
0:06:37it but you know what I mean of course
0:06:38not i don't know i must have sounded
0:06:40genuinely interested in the topic when
0:06:43we discussed it in the last episode
0:06:44because a lot of people wrote me quite
0:06:48detailed emails about it and sent me
0:06:50links and it's like the stealing of mate
0:06:52is like a huge issue and i just want to
0:06:54say that all those people thank you for
0:06:56sending that and you know you've opened
0:06:58my eyes to the problem i also wanted to
0:07:01a special shout out at the person who
0:07:02wrote an email to me and said that they
0:07:04work in kind of the make butcher
0:07:06industry Lou and it's a really big issue
0:07:08and if i want to know a lot more detail
0:07:10about it he was willing to like send me
0:07:12another email and that person was really
0:07:15smart because I haven't replied and I
0:07:17don't want to know a whole lot more
0:07:19about it but they save themselves the
0:07:21time of writing the really long email by
0:07:24sending this preliminary email basically
0:07:27saying if i write your balls of texts
0:07:29will you read it and the answer is no
0:07:31but they were smart enough to realize
0:07:33that yeah we're throw an idea out there
0:07:36into the void Brady but i suspect that
0:07:39the people who write big walls of text
0:07:41on the internet they're not short on
0:07:44time I think they have a lot of time
0:07:47yeah there you go make security there's
0:07:50like a vise video about it and
0:07:52everything so just go get that paper you
0:07:54find out loads of interesting stuff much
0:07:56more actual information than you ever
0:07:58get on an episode of Hello internet here
0:07:59because it sounds like you actually know
0:08:01nothing except that this just exist like
0:08:02I keep waiting for some interesting
0:08:03facts about me security but i think it's
0:08:05not going to happen i'm going to have to
0:08:07look at myself maybe we have like a
0:08:08special mix security episode at some
0:08:10stage I think we won't i think that is
0:08:12extraordinarily unlikely i had a knock
0:08:14on the door today like a delivery person
0:08:17was there with each three big boxes i
0:08:20had no idea what it was because i hadn't
0:08:22ordered anything and it didn't look like
0:08:24sort of the shape of clothes that my
0:08:27wife would have ordered yeah so I
0:08:29thought what if this and it was actually
0:08:31the boxes were quite similar size to the
0:08:33boxes all the vinyl records were sent in
0:08:36so i thought why am i receiving a whole
0:08:38stack of Records like a something gone
0:08:39wrong or and it wasn't until I opened
0:08:42them that I realized what they were they
0:08:45were silver buttons and among them was a
0:08:48hello internet so
0:08:49the button more silver play button for
0:08:52Brady yeah whatever buttons have changed
0:08:55the box so the Box doesn't match my
0:08:56other pile of boxes i have with the
0:08:58other words haha which does sort of do
0:09:01my head in a little bit but i think the
0:09:03buttons are pretty similar
0:09:04so anyway I've now got I think of now
0:09:06got nine here I've got one more coming
0:09:09my objectivity ones in the post when i
0:09:11get that one I'll have them all together
0:09:13and i'll get them together like a family
0:09:15photo or something and then i'm going to
0:09:17distribute them to various homes so the
0:09:20boxes are different but is the case that
0:09:22they come in different or have you not
0:09:23even open to look I had a look
0:09:25ok it looks similar i haven't compared
0:09:27with the previous ones i tell you
0:09:29another interesting thing i noticed
0:09:30today I mean it sounds like a humble
0:09:31brag but it's not you know I've already
0:09:33done the bragg of the buttons this is
0:09:34just me talking there but when I opened
0:09:36all three to check that were right
0:09:38each one on top has like a proform a
0:09:42letter with like a facsimile signature
0:09:44of the chief executive of YouTube
0:09:47writing this big gushing isn't everybody
0:09:50or some email telling me how awesome I
0:09:52am forgetting to a hundred thousand
0:09:53subscribers em and like I can see how he
0:09:56opened the box that would seem quite
0:09:58nice you but when you open three boxes
0:10:00in a row and look at the exact same
0:10:02photocopy later in them like it really
0:10:04loses the personal touch and you realize
0:10:06this is a little bit mass-produced and
0:10:08you don't feel so special right when you
0:10:11have to empty your shredder because it's
0:10:13full of these documents just being
0:10:15shredded one after another from all of
0:10:17your play button like oh here's another
0:10:19one congratulating shred shred now i
0:10:22have to take all of this out of the bin
0:10:23with nico she's written me nine letters
0:10:26now but I don't think she even knows who
0:10:27i am i'm sure she knows who you are
0:10:29ready now it's like mr. parents isn't
0:10:31that she's like heroin hey
0:10:33mmm perhaps although in all seriousness
0:10:37that because this becomes a little bit
0:10:38of question of measurement but you have
0:10:42to be the individual on youtube with the
0:10:46largest number of you to play buttons
0:10:50this has to be true right there can't be
0:10:52someone else who beat you on this now
0:10:53the grains must tell their bathroom with
0:10:56you to play buttons
0:10:58ok but this is what I mean it gets into
0:11:00a difficult thing of measurement because
0:11:02the green
0:11:02things are an empire they have like
0:11:04dozens of people working across many
0:11:06channels you have a lot of channels
0:11:08where it is
0:11:10you working on the videos obviously
0:11:11you're interviewing people so it's
0:11:13somewhat of a team effort
0:11:14yeah but maybe the way to do it is to
0:11:16take silver buttons / staff member and
0:11:21we want a ratio we want a ratio number i
0:11:23suspect you might be number one on that
0:11:25metric on youtube know it'd be really
0:11:27hard-pressed to think of anybody else
0:11:28who would beat you on that I find hard
0:11:30to believe paradise
0:11:31so you don't have many at all but i will
0:11:33kick the hello internet when I guess
0:11:34because where else is that going to go
0:11:36in till we open the museum in the black
0:11:38stump ya not going to be unknown in my
0:11:40house that's for sure
0:11:41now have you got a hello it's Nev and
0:11:45episode in your house i do have a helmet
0:11:47and final episode of my house hidden or
0:11:49in a place where a person would say it
0:11:51it is not in a place that a person would
0:11:53see it right is not in a vault i'm not
0:11:56quite sure what you're getting at here
0:11:57well I just wanted because i know that
0:11:59you had one framed like as a gift for
0:12:01someone else
0:12:02yeah and it looks really awesome and it
0:12:03did look really awesome by the way it
0:12:05really did yeah and I know your wife
0:12:07arrangement she obviously had it really
0:12:09well designed and she was so excited she
0:12:11was thinking this could even the good in
0:12:12their house and I got really excited by
0:12:15the idea of an HIV or hanging in your
0:12:17house but she obviously didn't win that
0:12:18better
0:12:19it was a battle that you tried to fight
0:12:20and it was a battle that she lost
0:12:22okay here's the thing I don't understand
0:12:24why would you get excited by the idea of
0:12:27it hanging up in my house like what does
0:12:29that matter to you why does that make
0:12:30you excited I don't understand because
0:12:32you know we created like a lovely thing
0:12:34and to think that it was worthy of you
0:12:37looking at it every day would like warm
0:12:39my heart it would make me think it has
0:12:41actually moved you and made you happy
0:12:43it would be like proof and not just lip
0:12:45service know Brady I'm not like maybe
0:12:49I'm not like you know so tell me you
0:12:51love me i'm just saying can you not see
0:12:53why that would make me happy like it
0:12:55would be like a tangible sign of you
0:12:56know you tell me you like it all the
0:12:58time and that you know and I believe you
0:12:59but this would be like something more
0:13:01especially your house that you hate
0:13:03stuff in that would be like getting
0:13:04access to the Pope was nothing I just
0:13:06think it's funny the way you always
0:13:08manage to frame a question in a way that
0:13:11it just never even occurs to me to think
0:13:13about as though what is on the walls and
0:13:16Patrick of the worthiness of the thing I
0:13:18find that so strange like what a strange
0:13:20way to think about things cause that's
0:13:22the case since all time humans have put
0:13:24things they value most on the walls have
0:13:26you ever been to a museum that's kind of
0:13:28in a way what we do i'm not saying that
0:13:31if something is not on your wall
0:13:32you don't value it what I'm saying is if
0:13:35you put something on your wall
0:13:36you're giving it like extra value i feel
0:13:38like i just can't agree with us because
0:13:40i mentioned before in our current flat
0:13:42we don't but I could see in a future
0:13:44flat having photographs up on the wall
0:13:47and it doesn't necessarily mean that
0:13:49that is the most worthy item that I own
0:13:52to put up on the wall here it's imbuing
0:13:54it with the degree of specialness let me
0:13:56put it this way great right now I'm just
0:13:58looking at my phone
0:13:59hmm i have a photo of you in my phone
0:14:02you're okay without you I'm fine with
0:14:05you having a photograph of me
0:14:06yeah what would you do if you came to my
0:14:08house and I had a 10 x 8 photo of you on
0:14:11my office wall i would be supremely
0:14:14weirded out why why there is the answer
0:14:19to the question i guess i can see what
0:14:21you're getting at here because it would
0:14:22be an extremely bizarre placement of
0:14:26importance of the photograph of me
0:14:29yes all right I guess I can see what
0:14:31you're saying their co i'm climbing as a
0:14:35half victory
0:14:36I think you can legitimately claim that
0:14:37as a half victory not all things fall
0:14:39into this category but some things fall
0:14:41into this category so I can see what you
0:14:43mean like a random picture might not
0:14:44mean anything but a picture of a
0:14:45particular person does mean something I
0:14:48can get that I can see which wasn't
0:14:49there
0:14:50alright you can put that in the Brady
0:14:52column you and I talked a lot about
0:14:56freebooting em and we have often talked
0:14:59about sort of the subset of freebooting
0:15:02that we sometimes called gift booting
0:15:04voting yeah give booting is the only
0:15:07thing we call it
0:15:07yeah you're right i was just preparing
0:15:09for that person who says the easter
0:15:10bunny doesn't really exist whoo-hoo
0:15:13so i found an interesting example of
0:15:16gift booting a day or two ago that I
0:15:19condemn and I think it's wrong but it
0:15:23did also bring a like a small flicker of
0:15:27something respect
0:15:29cleverness now I need to know what this
0:15:31thing is where you know how they're all
0:15:32these sources of gifts because people
0:15:34send them all the time in text messages
0:15:36now and they tweak them all the time so
0:15:38you can actually go to these light
0:15:40repositories of gifts and look up the
0:15:42one that just fits exactly what you're
0:15:44wanting you know I want someone with
0:15:45brown hair and a red t-shirt linking
0:15:47with their left eye
0:15:48yeah i could find one yeah let's build
0:15:50into by message analysis you just search
0:15:52for things like who knows where it even
0:15:54comes from
0:15:55yep i built into I message built into
0:15:56twitter so the other day i was messaging
0:15:59my wife and to let you know cheer up and
0:16:02joke around
0:16:03I wanted to send her a picture of a two
0:16:06hour so i searched for two hour and they
0:16:09were plenty gifts of Audrey stolen from
0:16:12my youtube videos where she bursting
0:16:15bubbles breathing
0:16:16yes he was chasing bubbles in slow
0:16:17motion well I can see how you might feel
0:16:21slightly peeved but also like a proud
0:16:24papa
0:16:25in that moment a little bit but I still
0:16:27condemning I'm not excusing yet but I
0:16:30did feel a little bit proud they are
0:16:32gifts of the world's cutest to our when
0:16:35she was a puppy at the absolute apex of
0:16:38her cuteness those gives might be the
0:16:40cutest a trauma has ever been or will
0:16:43ever be represented in human history
0:16:45that moment of her bursting those
0:16:46bubbles for people who don't know which
0:16:48is everyone in the world except grey I
0:16:50went out to dinner recently with gray
0:16:52and we were just having a chat and like
0:16:54in a moment of weakness I did say to him
0:16:56is Audrey good-looking because I i had a
0:17:03little crisis of confidence because I
0:17:05know chiwawas tread a fine line between
0:17:07being good looking and going a little
0:17:09bit wrong and also I know like proud
0:17:11parents think their kids are beautiful
0:17:14yeah and i thinkúit is gorgeous but the
0:17:17other day I was talking again i was
0:17:18talking with my wife and she was saying
0:17:20you realize that we some people who
0:17:21don't think poetry is gorgeous and I was
0:17:24like now he can't be writin so I sort of
0:17:27said to you I said tell me straight gray
0:17:29what do you think about Audrey for the
0:17:31listener just imagine for a moment that
0:17:33you are out you're having a nice dinner
0:17:35with a friend and they say tell me
0:17:40something
0:17:41they look into your eyes perhaps they
0:17:43reach across the table and put their
0:17:45hand on your hand and say give it to me
0:17:48straight
0:17:49is my child smart are they good at what
0:17:51they do and they're looking and I might
0:17:54add eyes glistening a little bit perhaps
0:17:57on the verge of some kind of emotional
0:18:00problem perhaps the answer that you're
0:18:02about to give is the sort of thing that
0:18:03might destroy your very friendship
0:18:05forever imagine finding yourself in that
0:18:08social situation and what would you say
0:18:10of course listener you would tell the
0:18:13truth
0:18:14Audrey is the most beautiful to all I
0:18:15have ever seen she is adorable and i
0:18:18really mean upgrading gave me a
0:18:19convincing outside like you even pulled
0:18:21an addict churches another wife and I
0:18:23were just talking the other day about
0:18:24ordering you didn't just say yes you
0:18:27called on evidence and like extra
0:18:29witness is the thing Brady I really do
0:18:33I'm telling it to you straight i'm
0:18:34looking into your eyes right Audrey is
0:18:37genuinely the accused you i have ever
0:18:39seen it is mostly because most of what
0:18:43you feel sorry for them that they've
0:18:44even been born it's like oh you are some
0:18:46kind of genetic abnormality that should
0:18:48never have existed but like we have
0:18:50wrought you out of the wolf and this is
0:18:53what we have made like gaze upon the
0:18:54horror of it sort of like somebody the
0:18:56Bulldogs like all you poor bulldog like
0:18:58I'm so sorry for you but that's not all
0:19:01tree like she is genuinely super cute
0:19:03but i just think it's funny because i
0:19:06know that i am telling the truth but I
0:19:08don't understand how you could ever
0:19:11possibly genuinely trust me
0:19:14100-percent when you ask a friend a
0:19:16question like that like that's why i was
0:19:18pulling an antidote so why did have
0:19:20witnesses like we call people on the
0:19:22phone to confirm that yes i have told
0:19:24their party got is this definitely
0:19:26happens next
0:19:27it really did there was a big thing
0:19:29because he wanted the proof like and I
0:19:31busted out all the proof that I possibly
0:19:32could but i still think in asking that
0:19:35question you can't trust a friend like
0:19:38this this is what the internet is for
0:19:40the internet tells you the truth and you
0:19:44know you can trust what the internet
0:19:47thinks about things because the internet
0:19:48it will tell you
0:19:50and so when you search the Chihuahua and
0:19:52you find Audrey breaking bubbles
0:19:54in the gift Ron 5,000 or whatever it was
0:19:57I think that is the answer to your
0:19:59question
0:19:59well first of all you can't trust the
0:20:02internet because everyone brings like
0:20:03lots of baggage but also they haven't
0:20:06met Audrey in person but also if I've
0:20:09got one friend who is not going to obey
0:20:11the social norms because he doesn't know
0:20:14what social norms are and and just tell
0:20:16the truth when he shouldn't know it's
0:20:18you
0:20:19yeah I will agree with that i am
0:20:20definitely the friend to ask there's no
0:20:22doubt about that
0:20:23I'm the person to ask i'm just still
0:20:25saying if I were you I feel like you can
0:20:27never fully trust your friends on a
0:20:29question like that asking about your
0:20:31child
0:20:33you just can't that's why you have to
0:20:34ask the internet if you didn't like orgy
0:20:36that mean you're always picking her up
0:20:37and hold her and she falls asleep on
0:20:39your arm while you're stroking her and
0:20:40stuff like you're a softie for the tree
0:20:43i totally am every time i go over it's
0:20:45like can't wait to see her
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0:22:43the show vinyl is on the up more than 3
0:22:48million people bought vinyl albums last
0:22:50year was the highest number of vinyl
0:22:52album sold in the UK 25 years and
0:22:55although to be fair it's still only some
0:22:59tiny percentage of music sales I found
0:23:02it really interesting to note that it's
0:23:03having this real resurgence while see
0:23:06days and downloads are both plummeting
0:23:09blue because streaming is obviously
0:23:11becoming the go-to thinks trainings like
0:23:13you know going gangbusters so
0:23:15everything's folding except streaming
0:23:17but vinyl is holding out and for all
0:23:20those people who've asked sales of the
0:23:22hello Internet vinyl edition i do not
0:23:25believe have been incorporated into
0:23:26those statistics and because i certainly
0:23:29get to supply them so you can add a few
0:23:31extra onto that 3.2 million thanks to
0:23:36the Thames any thoughts on this
0:23:38I'm just looking at this article and say
0:23:41yes while the numbers are somewhat
0:23:44impressive here it is 3.2 million
0:23:46records were sold last year which is a
0:23:49fifty three percent rise on the previous
0:23:51year which is quite impressive
0:23:53I just feel like this has to hit a cap
0:23:55pretty fast and it is a tiny portion of
0:23:58the overall business like I just quickly
0:24:00google to see and as of last year Apple
0:24:04music alone in the streaming world has
0:24:0620 million subscribers and I think Apple
0:24:10music is probably smaller than Spotify
0:24:13don't know but I'm gonna guess it is so
0:24:15I'm not seeing a real vinyl resurgence i
0:24:18would also be
0:24:20very curious to know what the breakdown
0:24:23is of the actual usage of those vinyl
0:24:25records how many of them are being
0:24:27bought to be displayed like posters in
0:24:30the way that you talked about a while
0:24:32back there beautiful pieces of artwork
0:24:34you can put them up on your wall
0:24:35how many of them are being bought like
0:24:36that versus being actually played I'm
0:24:39betting this is becoming like the
0:24:40collectors market thing as opposed to an
0:24:43actual utility thing does that matter
0:24:47so what I don't think it matters but i
0:24:49do think it changes what is this thing
0:24:53and collectors markets are just totally
0:24:57strange markets i think i mentioned
0:25:00before I only recently just discovered
0:25:01this whole phenomenon of collector
0:25:03edition sneakers sneakers that shoe
0:25:07companies manufacture with no intention
0:25:09of them ever being worn by anyone as I
0:25:11ok this is a totally weird strange
0:25:13market
0:25:14I feel like I bet the vinyl market is a
0:25:16lot closer to something like that then
0:25:18it is to an actual utility object on
0:25:21what you put the idea of limited-edition
0:25:24hello Internet sneakers into my head for
0:25:27hitting 100 can feel it you know it's
0:25:30gonna take me like a bug
0:25:32okay buddy i feel like part of my job
0:25:33sometimes is to save you from yourself
0:25:35up my dad took me down i gotta talk you
0:25:37off the ledge buddy because they're okay
0:25:39first of all think back to all of the
0:25:41returns that you've already had to deal
0:25:43with for the final episode of Hello
0:25:45incident and now keep in mind sneakers
0:25:48they're not a single consistent item
0:25:50they have to be manufactured different
0:25:52sizes
0:25:53you'd have to deal with returns people
0:25:55having different sizes now I know if
0:25:56they're not being worn
0:25:58not if they're not for wearing you could
0:25:59just do them all in one size mm no no
0:26:02Brady is not possible you have to
0:26:03manufacture them a different sizes that
0:26:04people would demand it
0:26:06it's too much of a logistic trouble you
0:26:08don't want to do this
0:26:09think of all the different materials
0:26:10there's no sneaker machine that can just
0:26:12press it out and record a quick youtube
0:26:15video of the manufacturing process
0:26:16I don't think you want to do this this
0:26:18is not a good idea man i'm already
0:26:19thinking of ways I can do here is we
0:26:21have to do here's my plan
0:26:22I can tell you the plan because even if
0:26:25i tell you it might still work we've got
0:26:28to just move on to the next topic
0:26:29because by the end of the show you might
0:26:31just forget
0:26:32and it will be over era but then I'll
0:26:34here in this episode and it will remind
0:26:36me like a parent ramon de if future
0:26:38Brady is listening to this episode we
0:26:40can also hope that by the time you get
0:26:42to the end of the episode he also
0:26:44forgets that's our only hear that future
0:26:47Brady keep listening to the show I get
0:26:48what I can't even what we're talking
0:26:49about
0:26:50there you go perfect i also saw today
0:26:54and obviously I knew this was gonna
0:26:55happen but I hadn't read about it before
0:26:57about the opening of Star Wars land by
0:27:01disney the Star Wars theme park which
0:27:03was obviously one of the first things
0:27:05that are gonna do when disney bought the
0:27:07rights to Star Wars food but uh it looks
0:27:10like it's upon us and i was wondering
0:27:11what you thought about this
0:27:12according to this article 14 acres at
0:27:15disneyland and walt Disney World in
0:27:17Florida so it looks like Star Wars land
0:27:20is going to be part of disneyland
0:27:21they're hoping to open it may be by
0:27:23around the time the episode 9 comes out
0:27:26so couple years time wondering how you
0:27:28felt about this i don't know Brady
0:27:31effort this do things here the first is
0:27:33it never really crossed my mind that
0:27:36when disney bought Star Wars they'd be
0:27:38making theme parks which of course seems
0:27:40really obvious in retrospect it's just
0:27:42like in my mind star wars are you still
0:27:43this precious thing but no now it's
0:27:45gonna be forever which leads to the
0:27:47second thing which is I'm really feeling
0:27:50some star wars burnout that's where i'm
0:27:52headed about this although i do anything
0:27:54even just looking at some conceptual
0:27:55drawings like I'm sure would be cool to
0:27:56walk around and some of those
0:27:57environments
0:27:59I don't know it feels like the Marvel
0:28:02Universe ification of Star Wars and it's
0:28:05going to be around forever and there's
0:28:07always going to be more things i think
0:28:09im just gonna have to step back a little
0:28:11bit are you gonna head down to disney as
0:28:13soon as it's open
0:28:14I don't think i'll be an early adopter
0:28:16where do you stand on theme parks and
0:28:19amusement parks like how do you feel
0:28:21about them I couldn't get if you are
0:28:22someone who hates them or likes them
0:28:25because in some ways like you know I
0:28:27know you don't like crowds and people
0:28:29moving and tackiness but on the other
0:28:31hand you do like kind of you know mass
0:28:34appeal entertainment is that what's on
0:28:36the other side of the scale massive
0:28:37field entertainment that's interesting
0:28:38you know you play computer games and
0:28:40watch movies and stuff so you do some
0:28:42normal stuff i do some normal stuff that
0:28:44is true we like Las Vegas
0:28:45I do like Las Vegas well this one's
0:28:47anybody when you say like I don't like
0:28:48tacky things
0:28:49yes but there is a Maryland point for
0:28:51tackiness which once you cross it it
0:28:53becomes awesome and I think a lot of Las
0:28:56Vegas does fall into this category of
0:28:59its past the Maryland point but you
0:29:01don't like queuing I don't like doing
0:29:03I don't like rides that involve
0:29:06acceleration in any way which is a
0:29:08pretty broad category of rides so those
0:29:11sort of things are not pleasant for me
0:29:13even little baby rides that have the
0:29:15tiniest amount of acceleration that find
0:29:17deeply physically uncomfortable so I
0:29:18don't do any of those things is that
0:29:19because you don't like the feeling of
0:29:21course you're scared you're gonna die
0:29:22it's just the physical sensation right
0:29:25there's something in my body which is
0:29:28overly tuned to acceleration and reacts
0:29:30extremely poorly and every once in a
0:29:34while by which i mean maybe every five
0:29:35or six years some part of me forgets
0:29:38this and thinks maybe I can try and i'll
0:29:41do some like baby ride and then this is
0:29:43like oh god get me off this thing
0:29:44immediately this is just physically
0:29:46uncomfortable the carnies running those
0:29:48rides don't exactly instill faith in how
0:29:52reliable they always are but it's mostly
0:29:54the actual physical uncomfortable this
0:29:56is the problem what's economy is that
0:29:58someone he runs accountable
0:29:59yeah they're like traveling people who
0:30:01run carnivals that sort of carne is that
0:30:03like an offensive term it sounds like
0:30:04would be an offensive way I think it is
0:30:06slightly offensive but it's occurring to
0:30:08me that maybe this is a very American
0:30:09term right I feel like you would say
0:30:11Carney to anybody and they would have an
0:30:13image of a teenager who's not really
0:30:15paying full attention to the teacup ride
0:30:18at the local carnival like that's why
0:30:20would happen your mind if you say a
0:30:21carny ok so it's a world where led to
0:30:24say unlikely in today it's not
0:30:25yeah obviously is as you said it news
0:30:27starts now Brady you're allowed to say
0:30:31all the words on the internet there are
0:30:32no forbidden words on the industry
0:30:35yeah but i mean i guess to answer your
0:30:37question when I was a kid my parents
0:30:39took me to Disney very regularly for a
0:30:42period of time like every other year we
0:30:44went down to Disney and what I do really
0:30:48like about those kinds of environments
0:30:51is just the experience of walking around
0:30:55a place that has been set up in an
0:30:57interesting way
0:30:58I don't necessarily feel the need to go
0:31:02on lots of rides but to me that was
0:31:04never really the experience that I just
0:31:06always like walking around i just got
0:31:08his picture in my head of parents taking
0:31:10this little tiny ctp greater Disney
0:31:12World for the fifth time in 10 years and
0:31:14you're just so excited because you know
0:31:15once again get to see how they work in
0:31:17the rubbish collection
0:31:18I mean that is part of it but I think I
0:31:22like a well-designed theme park just
0:31:25sets up visually interesting places to
0:31:28walk around i have this real theory
0:31:30about like when you're walking into
0:31:31place curved paths make a place much
0:31:34more interesting to walk around
0:31:36particularly curves pads were you can't
0:31:39necessarily see what's too far ahead of
0:31:41you
0:31:42I feel like a lot of the theme parks do
0:31:43a really good job of that kind of
0:31:45feeling like you're walking around and
0:31:46moving between different areas you're
0:31:48not just standing in the center of a
0:31:51really big open space that extends in
0:31:53all directions and you can see
0:31:55everything I think that's kind of boring
0:31:57a few of the very old markets in London
0:32:00have that kind of feeling to where
0:32:02you're walking into space and because
0:32:04you can't see everything in all
0:32:06directions like in a modern mall
0:32:08it's just a more interesting environment
0:32:09to walk around so i really like all of
0:32:11that kind of stuff that said as an adult
0:32:14I haven't been to a theme park in a very
0:32:17very long time and I think it's because
0:32:19my patience and tolerance for crowds and
0:32:22lines and children would be at an
0:32:24all-time low and whenever my family and
0:32:27I went because they are the best parents
0:32:30in the world always took me out of
0:32:33school to go to Disneyland in the
0:32:36offseason so it was like we had the
0:32:37whole place to ourselves and I like I
0:32:39don't even know what they told the
0:32:40school we were up to but it was always
0:32:42like whatever the least busy time was
0:32:44they would take me out of school and we
0:32:46would go and it was awesome
0:32:48co haven't been to Disneyland once and i
0:32:51went in 2002 normally I can't tell you
0:32:55the years I did things but i do remember
0:32:56that year was a long time ago and my
0:32:58camera still was a film camera while two
0:33:00loads of pictures and had the time of my
0:33:02life and as we were leaving I realized
0:33:04there was no film in my camera and I was
0:33:06like are no
0:33:08I wondered why didn't have to change my
0:33:09film another taking some photos so then
0:33:12we spent 20 minutes running around
0:33:14disneyland a breakneck speed re creating
0:33:16all the photos and reposing in front of
0:33:18all the Roberts to take the photos again
0:33:20so when I look through all those
0:33:21pictures it's like I do we did all that
0:33:23in 10 minutes the end of the day but a
0:33:26good time but you have the memories so
0:33:31great i want to try bringing this up but
0:33:33I don't want to like lead you down a
0:33:35rabbit hole because I'm scared you might
0:33:36go off on one and that bore me
0:33:38wow that hurts that hurts really deep
0:33:41breathing I'm why you're going to want
0:33:42to take in a different direction but
0:33:44anyway that's your podcast know you can
0:33:45do you want but i want to talk about
0:33:48people dying
0:33:49no because there was this thing right in
0:33:512016 wherever saying all this is like
0:33:55the worst year ever and like everyone
0:33:56keeps dying and all these celebrities
0:33:58kept I and part of me thought it was
0:34:01interesting part of me thought it was
0:34:02ridiculous but the thing that I thought
0:34:05was interesting was I've said like in an
0:34:07episode of Hello internet in the early
0:34:10days
0:34:10mmm i basically predicted this and just
0:34:12came through earlier than i thought the
0:34:14fact that as the years go by we're
0:34:16getting a bigger and bigger density
0:34:17famous people it's gonna seem every year
0:34:21like more famous people are dying
0:34:23because they're just our more famous
0:34:25people because of the way the media's
0:34:27evolved and fame and celebrity has a
0:34:29mouth and I think every year is going to
0:34:32be worse than the year before in terms
0:34:33of its seeming like celebrities are
0:34:35falling off the perch and I think 2017
0:34:39has very much started in this way as
0:34:41well like I feel like the number of
0:34:43famous people dying in january and
0:34:46februari of 2017 has been even higher
0:34:49than it was all through 2016 and you can
0:34:52send me all the links to old like the
0:34:54boring articles and podcasts that show
0:34:56that it doesn't change
0:34:57I'm not that interested in facts I'm
0:34:59just say this is what it feels like when
0:35:02I don't know what you think
0:35:03ok so i am trying to think about any
0:35:07celebrity deaths that i will have heard
0:35:09of and I can only come up with one that
0:35:13I've heard of for this year but i think
0:35:17the only example i can think of it
0:35:19perfectly goes into exactly what you're
0:35:21saying
0:35:21which is a guy called Hans Rosling who's
0:35:25a Swedish doctor and statistician and
0:35:30ran a website called Gapminder if
0:35:32anybody knew of him it was because he
0:35:35did a couple of ted talks on population
0:35:37growth that were very popular and very
0:35:40interesting and he's a guy whose career
0:35:42I've followed a little bit since he came
0:35:43across my radar but he's a perfect
0:35:45example of someone who in an earlier
0:35:49time would not have had any level of
0:35:52internet fame for me to even be aware of
0:35:55when he died in the first place
0:35:58he's the only person I can think of that
0:35:59I've heard of who's died this year but
0:36:01he's exactly this example like a person
0:36:03with a certain amount of internet fame
0:36:06who makes it feel like
0:36:08all right here is a celebrity who has
0:36:11died but is probably unknown to a
0:36:14reasonably large portion of the
0:36:16population and I think more and more
0:36:18celebrity deaths are going to be like
0:36:21that just as you say what do you think
0:36:23about 2016 and then was there like a
0:36:25clustering there were some big ones
0:36:27obviously but yeah there were some big
0:36:29ones but my frustration with is also is
0:36:31that I think it just becomes a meme I
0:36:35think there are a couple of people you
0:36:36can point to with kind of starting this
0:36:39idea in people's minds of 2016 being a
0:36:43terrible year and also then combining it
0:36:45with the celebrity deaths and I think
0:36:47that very naturally it just becomes a
0:36:49thing that gets into people's minds and
0:36:52once you start thinking about all of
0:36:54these celebrities are dying then you are
0:36:56more aware of all the celebrities who
0:36:59died i think it's also just a thing that
0:37:02feeds itself out of proportion to what
0:37:06is actually occurring even if the actual
0:37:08number of quotes celebrity deaths is
0:37:11also increasing at the same time but
0:37:12there's something machinist about this
0:37:15that annoys me I can't quite articulate
0:37:17why but it does that really bothers make
0:37:19I mean wikipedia is not the best example
0:37:21because we kept it hasn't really defined
0:37:23fine i'm just looking through the deaths
0:37:25of 2017 and for every day they list 20
0:37:30people at least dying a lot of them
0:37:34wouldn't count famous or even
0:37:35make the news but it shows how many
0:37:37people we consider noteworthy in such a
0:37:39age of information so it's probably not
0:37:42surprising if you followed newspapers
0:37:44and TV and things like that where they
0:37:46just have to feel space they can quite
0:37:47easily fill it with stories of famous
0:37:49people dying they want anyway I did
0:37:52think it was interesting and we didn't
0:37:53mention the 2016 thing but we had talked
0:37:56about on how internet and I felt like
0:37:57maybe it was starting to come to
0:37:58fruition already i didn't realize that
0:38:00wikipedia of course they would have it
0:38:02wikipedia does maintain list of
0:38:04celebrity deaths for it looks like very
0:38:07many years
0:38:08yeah i just randomly jump back to
0:38:10nineteen ninety in january and like not
0:38:13sure have a long list of famous people
0:38:15who died in nineteen ninety in January
0:38:17yeah it might be more now but the idea
0:38:21of the death is ten times bigger than
0:38:25that maybe fifteen percent increase that
0:38:28is real if you see what I mean like
0:38:29that's the disparity that's occurring
0:38:31here I must have spent two hours last
0:38:35night
0:38:36this is chemical it's called Brady's
0:38:38reagent funnily enough but it's been in
0:38:41the news a bit lately
0:38:42Lucas there's some schools were having
0:38:43problems with exploding so we've done a
0:38:45video about it for periodic videos which
0:38:47I was doing last not so it's called
0:38:49Brady's reagent and after not too much
0:38:50research i was able to figure out why
0:38:52it's called Brady's reagent but it's got
0:38:54a secondary name that some people call
0:38:56it which is borchers reagent and I must
0:38:59have spent two hours figuring out who
0:39:00bore schwoz and then double checking and
0:39:02confirming i had the right person in the
0:39:05end I was unlike Google Books going
0:39:07through ancient text books written in
0:39:09German trying to find clothes and I was
0:39:13crazy
0:39:14the rabbit holes you can go down for
0:39:15like trivial facts that i didn't even
0:39:18need for the video it's just like
0:39:19something i put on screen for three
0:39:21seconds but god I some time into it it
0:39:24is very easy to do that sort of thing
0:39:26back in the day when you just at the
0:39:28library like well the trail runs cold
0:39:29real fast but now now there is always
0:39:32one further thing that you can try to
0:39:34chase it that fact really nail down
0:39:36there's always another page of results
0:39:38on google right no matter what you're
0:39:40typing in you can keep going and going
0:39:41if you like the answer is out there
0:39:43somewhere but also you start to like
0:39:46find yourself having to fight against
0:39:48sort of
0:39:48certain biases as well like i thought
0:39:51i'd figured out who he was it was this
0:39:52water waterboard you so everywhere I
0:39:56looked I was basically just looking for
0:39:57information that would confirm right
0:39:59right it was what abortion and then I
0:40:01was suddenly thinking hang on if I just
0:40:03got in my head that's who it is and I'm
0:40:04just looking for his name and maybe
0:40:06there's another borscht out there who's
0:40:07the actual guy and what am I doing with
0:40:10my life great i totally understand this
0:40:12yeah there's a very easy trap that
0:40:13everybody falls into of confirming a
0:40:16thing versus trying to find out if you
0:40:18are wrong about the thing and when do
0:40:21you stop looking
0:40:22you have my sympathies with this because
0:40:23i am trying to track down the reason why
0:40:26a government bureaucracy essentially a
0:40:29hundred years ago decided to do with
0:40:32things the way they did
0:40:33it's the exact same thing like where do
0:40:35we stop trying to find out the answer to
0:40:37this question this question which
0:40:39doesn't really matter doesn't really
0:40:41affect anything in a video i can
0:40:43trivially right around the reason for
0:40:46this thing it doesn't really matter
0:40:47because like it's got to be on the
0:40:48internet somewhere and I want to try to
0:40:50find it but it's also the problem with
0:40:53the confirmation of when I finally find
0:40:56something
0:40:57how do you know if that is true it can
0:41:00never end like have you found the answer
0:41:02or have you just found the first thing
0:41:05that provides an answer and you decide
0:41:08to go with you occasionally get smoking
0:41:09guns that you feel pretty confident
0:41:11about that
0:41:12oh yeah oh yeah but it's these kind of
0:41:14rabbit holes of trying to chase down
0:41:17information they do reveal something
0:41:19about how all knowledge is not exactly
0:41:22knowledge but it's a tower of
0:41:24probabilities that there's information
0:41:26that you are more and less certain about
0:41:28is real or is not real
0:41:31you don't want to spend most of your day
0:41:33looking at that to directly it's too
0:41:35much to think about but that really is
0:41:37how just all of the knowledge in
0:41:38anybody's head is essentially just a
0:41:40summation of probabilities of how likely
0:41:42do you think this is to be true and how
0:41:44likely is it to be untrue i promise i'm
0:41:49not going to make sports poke corner
0:41:51original operating I'm not gonna do but
0:41:55this is where I can't believe you now
0:41:56two episodes in a row we've just had the
0:41:58superbowl you've got to let me have
0:41:59sports ball corner for the superbowl
0:42:01if it's not the superbowl it's the world
0:42:03cup if it's not the world cup it's the
0:42:06price i can't think of another one but
0:42:08it's like there's always there's any two
0:42:09then the ashes there we go
0:42:12not i look at ya are a little bit proud
0:42:15of you that if it's not the ashes it's
0:42:17the Thunderdome
0:42:18I got you know it's like the guys on
0:42:21things here
0:42:22oh you have to make an exception for the
0:42:24superbowl as though that's the only
0:42:27sport that we participate in when you're
0:42:29always telling me stories about all
0:42:30kinds of things in one season ends and
0:42:32another season starts up as a different
0:42:34number of these things Brady what are
0:42:36you saying you saying I can't have
0:42:39sports bonuses like now I'm not saying
0:42:41you can't have sports ball corner and
0:42:43just it's again is the way you frame the
0:42:45thing like oh just this once just this
0:42:48once twice in a row like just you pretty
0:42:50well not everybody exactly like I know
0:42:53what you doing buddy right because once
0:42:56its twice now it's a tradition
0:42:57practically right think it's gonna have
0:42:59to happen all the time it's been like
0:43:01the dominant story of my wake this has
0:43:03been the thing that has consumed most of
0:43:06my headspace this week
0:43:07how can I not talk to my good buddy
0:43:09about it because i didn't know that
0:43:11there was a superbowl you didn't know
0:43:13the superbawl was on why would I know
0:43:15the superbowl was on because it's a
0:43:17major world event is it a major world
0:43:19events I feel like after I moved out of
0:43:21america i don't hear that much about the
0:43:22superbowl anymore
0:43:23how would i have come across this piece
0:43:25of information read it well I didn't see
0:43:28it on any of the reddit sections that I
0:43:29want it wasn't on reddit much to be
0:43:31honest I wasn't on my radar the to be
0:43:32honest but anyway go fail at the first
0:43:35hurdle liberating yeah anyway I don't
0:43:38tell you about my softball experience
0:43:40okay tell me about the super bowl but to
0:43:42tell you about myself bugs i have to be
0:43:44a bit of background this is important
0:43:48background is its yeah alright
0:43:52interesting do you know what my english
0:43:55soccer team is that I follow that might
0:43:58favor
0:43:58now we don't do Arsenal no setups pull
0:44:03the name out of a hat man
0:44:05my team is little poorer okay right I'm
0:44:07going to keep the story short it will be
0:44:08shorter if you stop groaning
0:44:10interrupting haha ok alright
0:44:12smile developers my father too long in
0:44:152005 Liverpool made it to the final of a
0:44:18very important soccer tournament the
0:44:20Champions League the european cup final
0:44:22and now playing against a big famous
0:44:24italian club called AC Milan and and it
0:44:26was in Istanbul that's where the fire
0:44:28was being held ok and i happen to be on
0:44:32holiday the night the fire was on i was
0:44:34in Prague with an ex-girlfriend from a
0:44:37long time ago who really really hated
0:44:39soccer like you and we went to a bar to
0:44:42watch this game because i wanted to
0:44:43watch my beloved live a pole and a half
0:44:46time they were being absolutely pasted
0:44:49they were 3-nil down which in soccer
0:44:52terms against a really good team in a
0:44:54final is like game over
0:44:56yeah I totally understand that because
0:44:58once again you're terrible at estimating
0:44:59things and soccer is probably the sport
0:45:01that I have watched the most ever on TV
0:45:04but ok we continue para so anyway and
0:45:06the pub's full of like English louts so
0:45:09the girlfriend at the time says can we
0:45:11leave now but I don't want to watch the
0:45:13second half is a really unpleasant
0:45:15environment move and you're unhappy
0:45:17because your team has lost the game
0:45:19so what are we doing here and I said
0:45:21good point and we left and we walked
0:45:24around the city and we went back to the
0:45:26hotel and I was sitting in bed reading a
0:45:29book and suddenly i get a text message
0:45:31from my friend back in England going
0:45:33isn't this unbelievable you must be like
0:45:34having the night of your life and I'm
0:45:36what are you talking about
0:45:38and it turns out in the second half
0:45:40liverpool stage this incredible recovery
0:45:42and scores were level and it went to
0:45:46like extra time and then luckily i turn
0:45:48the TV on in my room and I caught the
0:45:50last couple of seconds and liverpool won
0:45:51the game in one of these penalty
0:45:53shootouts the old livable fans talk
0:45:55about as this famous night when it's
0:45:57called the miracle of this tambo and
0:45:59difficult fans always talk about what
0:46:01were you doing when it happened where
0:46:02were you watching it wasn't the greatest
0:46:03night of your life and i'm always well i
0:46:06was reading a novel in bed because I
0:46:07thought we'd lost to move so that was my
0:46:10stories my ex-girlfriend we leave the
0:46:12above yeah so anyway it was super bowl
0:46:15this week and it was the New England
0:46:18Patriots and the Atlanta Falcons and for
0:46:21various boring reasons I'm not like a
0:46:23property
0:46:24and for various reasons i'm a fan of the
0:46:26new england patriots the reason is
0:46:28actually dates all the way back to 2002
0:46:30when i first went to Boston and they had
0:46:33this new player called Tom Brady and I
0:46:36went into a shop and I saw these new
0:46:38england patriots shirts and I had Brady
0:46:40written on the back of them and I was
0:46:41like oh well I've never seen a show with
0:46:43Brady written that that's amazing so I
0:46:46bought one and so he became my player
0:46:49right of course and that became my team
0:46:50and just by sheer luck
0:46:53this was the start of this guy's career
0:46:55he's gone on to become perhaps the
0:46:57greatest player ever
0:46:58it's quarterback for the New England
0:46:59Patriots and he's won all these super
0:47:01bowls and he's like a big superstar so I
0:47:03look like I've jump on a bandwagon
0:47:05mmm i haven't jumped on the bandwagon no
0:47:08I jumped on a wagon for an equally
0:47:09shallow and superficial reason and that
0:47:11is the player has the same name as me
0:47:13anyway so that's my team are playing in
0:47:16this game it was on Sunday night i had
0:47:19to get up early on Monday morning
0:47:20because i had to drive across the
0:47:22country and to drive to Nottingham so i
0:47:24said i'm only gonna watch the first half
0:47:25of the game and atlanta falcons they
0:47:29smashed the new england patriots and tom
0:47:32brady was having a terrible game and I
0:47:34think like at halftime the score was 21
0:47:3823 Atlanta 18 points ahead and friendly
0:47:42enough the NFL account for the UK did a
0:47:45tweet saying did you know that no team
0:47:47has ever come back from 10 points behind
0:47:49to win super bowl and the Patriots were
0:47:5218 points behind em I made a funny
0:47:55comment like I reply to that to a lot of
0:47:57lines of well i guess i go to bed now
0:47:58and they actually replied to me and said
0:48:00be careful you never know what might
0:48:02happen and then i replied without got
0:48:05experience with this night tweeted a
0:48:06picture of Liverpool winning that
0:48:08tournament back in 2005 and everyone who
0:48:10knew what was going on was that laughing
0:48:11saying haha yes whatever and i went to
0:48:14bed but I was so scared it was gonna be
0:48:16a comeback that I kept my phone with me
0:48:19in bed and at the start of the second
0:48:22half i looked and the Atlanta Falcons
0:48:25got the first score of the second half
0:48:27as well so they went 25 points ahead and
0:48:30then I thought okay now I can go to
0:48:32sleep because there's no comeback now
0:48:35the Falcons are still scoring
0:48:37I went to sleep do you know what
0:48:39happened i'm guessing the Patriots one
0:48:41is the most incredible comeback in the
0:48:44history of the super bowl and everyone's
0:48:46talking about it everyone's saying it's
0:48:48the greatest super bowl in history isn't
0:48:51it amazing that we so lucky to have
0:48:53witnessed this game all this hype and
0:48:56yet again i have slept through my team
0:48:59doing this amazing thing and like I can
0:49:02watch it the next day but it's not the
0:49:03same when you know what's going to
0:49:05happen and even if I didn't know what's
0:49:06gonna happen it's not the same if you're
0:49:08not watching it live so I've yet again
0:49:10slip through my team doing a really
0:49:13really amazing thing
0:49:14how does that make you feel Brady in
0:49:16some ways I'm glad I didn't have to go
0:49:19through watching it because i watch the
0:49:22second half the next day online and i
0:49:25would have been so nervous watching that
0:49:27game as they were coming back are they
0:49:29going to come back so close either can I
0:49:31do it I'm gonna do i would have been so
0:49:32sick with nerves
0:49:34I'm almost glad I didn't have to say it
0:49:36mhm it just all happened without me
0:49:38knowing who I almost feel good about and
0:49:42I always feel good that I've now got
0:49:43this like track record of sleeping
0:49:45through amazing things like it's not my
0:49:48thing now isn't it almost feeling good
0:49:50is not the same as actually feeling good
0:49:53yeah i mean i have stayed awake through
0:49:55some amazing sports things and they are
0:49:57some of my best memories
0:49:58mhm but i've also been awake through
0:50:00some terrible losses necessarily the
0:50:01most terrible things so I'm thinking the
0:50:04next time there's a sports game where it
0:50:07looks like there's can't possibly be a
0:50:09turnaround and you're going to go to bed
0:50:11I think you should let me know before
0:50:13you go to bed so that i can place a bet
0:50:16at that moment on the losing team
0:50:18because it seems like you have a good
0:50:19track record with this
0:50:20it was good though it was pretty amazing
0:50:22and the other thing it made me realize
0:50:24it's because a few of the things that
0:50:26allowed the Patriots to win
0:50:28we're like touchdowns and plays and
0:50:30things that were literally decided by a
0:50:33few centimeters like you know the ball
0:50:35was over the line by a few centimeters
0:50:37off the ground by a few centimeters me
0:50:38and it is amazing to me in spore how
0:50:42small the margins can be that have such
0:50:45massive impact because no matter how
0:50:47much you hate football
0:50:49you do realize you know winning the
0:50:51superbowl was a big deal and there he
0:50:52vast amounts of money and sponsorships
0:50:54and things at stake so there's a lot at
0:50:56stake and just the smallest little
0:50:59bounces of a bowl and a centimeter here
0:51:02in a centimeter there in all sport make
0:51:04such massive differences I guess we'd
0:51:06like that about sport but I always
0:51:08really need to jump in here because you
0:51:10always upgrade my indifference toward a
0:51:12thing to hatred which is a hell of a
0:51:15leap like okay it's like a lack of
0:51:17interest does not equate to hatred of a
0:51:20thing like these are two totally
0:51:22different emotions like an indifference
0:51:24is an underappreciated emotion like it's
0:51:25just really likes watching these games
0:51:27and it's only good i think would you are
0:51:30sensing it sometimes my frustration at
0:51:33your desire to tell me shaggy dog
0:51:36stories about what happened in a game
0:51:38for which I have no context it's a very
0:51:42different thing where you've got to tell
0:51:44me that a team won but we have to start
0:51:46back in 1978 when you found a shirt with
0:51:49your name on it and operated scoreboard
0:51:51and I've always feel the same thing like
0:51:52I'm trying to hold together all these
0:51:54threads in my head I'm like okay where
0:51:57does this connect where does that
0:51:58connect it's like a murder mystery and
0:52:00then look at the end they all come
0:52:02together and form this amazing finale
0:52:04and you're like while that was awesome
0:52:06break don't think they do it's not that
0:52:08they come together an amazing finale
0:52:09it's more than it just sort of n so
0:52:12here's the thing is it like unnecessary
0:52:14data I feel like that too but I blame
0:52:17you for what's mine because I don't know
0:52:19if you engaged more with the story and
0:52:22helped me along and we're like saying
0:52:23are really will happen next and I hadn't
0:52:25happened like if you asked any questions
0:52:28and had any level of engagement I
0:52:30wouldn't always be left hanging at the
0:52:31end of the time like and then the
0:52:33teamwork but I can feel it too i'm like
0:52:36sinking in my grave ask me a question
0:52:38like to interact just missing the
0:52:40direction i just need a little bit i
0:52:43continued on that but you're like nuff
0:52:46i'm giving you nothing right you're
0:52:48drowning on your own but it's always the
0:52:50same thing you're always talking about
0:52:51the people or like something like I have
0:52:53I have no question that you could say
0:52:54are really tom brady hoke hey what does
0:52:56he look like but what position is my way
0:52:58who cares where was the superbowl play
0:53:00my position does he play
0:53:02you could tell me he plays quarter
0:53:03chicken and I would just believe you
0:53:04like I don't know what the players play
0:53:06like I have no idea what these things
0:53:07are wise Tom Brady so good how much
0:53:10Stephanie one really likes you just ask
0:53:13me anything because you're working with
0:53:14that you're continuing to go down a path
0:53:16of meaningless answers like all I'm
0:53:19gonna do is extend the shaggy dog story
0:53:21further about like like oh oh you know
0:53:23his mother is from Germany right she
0:53:26emigrated like our guy
0:53:27it's like you're just go on and on and
0:53:29applications work I do that all the time
0:53:31when I meet people who do things that I
0:53:33know nothing about and I just ask some
0:53:35questions about it and like if I made
0:53:37the world expert on ants I just ask them
0:53:40all sorts of questions and eventually
0:53:41just stumble over interesting totally
0:53:43different thing I can conceptualize that
0:53:45like these things to ask about the thing
0:53:47with sports it's very hard i do have one
0:53:49question that which we did blow hand
0:53:51which is you saying that the sport is
0:53:52one by centimeters and what I want to
0:53:55know is does football have actual
0:53:58cameras that they used to do replays so
0:54:00that they can see
0:54:02yes this was in or yes this without as
0:54:04opposed to some sports that still rely
0:54:05on a human to make a call at the ladder
0:54:07again which seems stupid to me
0:54:09well there you go you asked a question
0:54:11and bless you great there's an
0:54:14interesting answer for me to share with
0:54:15you about it right because this is the
0:54:17only question of any interest there
0:54:18can't possibly be that was like and I
0:54:20found it I valid you like a diamond
0:54:23right that no I rentals pile of rubble
0:54:26what's more likely that you found all
0:54:27that all questions are interesting that
0:54:29i found it but i think it in this is
0:54:31applying it
0:54:32yes American football does use video
0:54:35replays extensively I think even though
0:54:37it doesn't always settle things it does
0:54:40help considerably but what was
0:54:41interesting was this game went to
0:54:43overtime and it was a situation where
0:54:45like first touchdown wins
0:54:48there's a few more subtleties to it than
0:54:50that but I'm not gonna bore you anymore
0:54:51first touchdown wins new england got
0:54:54this touchdown but what happened was the
0:54:56guy like reached out to do the touchdown
0:54:58over the line and he had to have not
0:55:01like you know grounded his new whatever
0:55:02and being on the ground before he did it
0:55:04so it was a really fine cut did he make
0:55:06or not so the referee on the field cold
0:55:09as a touchdown to his eye he said it was
0:55:11a touchdown
0:55:12but we're going up to the TV hmm but
0:55:15before the TV people had decided the New
0:55:18England players were running around
0:55:19celebrating everyone ran on the field
0:55:22and celebrated so the guy that was in
0:55:24charge of confetti obviously press the
0:55:26button and add tons and tons and tons of
0:55:31confetti started raining down on the
0:55:33stadium and all over the field and the
0:55:34players so if the guy watching the final
0:55:37TV replay headlight looked at that and
0:55:39decided actually you know what I think
0:55:41that's not a touchdown
0:55:42I have no idea what they would have done
0:55:44because they had completely trashed the
0:55:47stadium
0:55:48I don't know what they've had to sweep
0:55:49it all off the field and spend an hour
0:55:51and then start playing again so in the
0:55:53end I think the TV guy must have just
0:55:55said no matter what I have to do that is
0:55:56attached to him because we can't play on
0:55:58the field anymore
0:55:59that's not the way that works you have
0:56:00to have an hour of watching the team
0:56:02sadly pack their own confetti back in
0:56:04the confetti cannons right that's what
0:56:05you mean I would like no no right you
0:56:09guys celebrated too soon this is not how
0:56:11this works and now but now you're goin
0:56:14to pack all of that confetti back in
0:56:16those confetti cannons buddy this is
0:56:18what you're gonna have to do you don't
0:56:19get to celebrate before we made it
0:56:20official
0:56:21you know you have to call it you have to
0:56:22take it back you know what more stories
0:56:24are popping into my head that's what i
0:56:25could tell you now but I won't let me
0:56:27ask you one more thing about super bowl
0:56:28in general though
0:56:29ok this was super bowl 51 and as you
0:56:32might know when they named the Super
0:56:34Bowls and they make the official logo
0:56:35for each one teach one has its own they
0:56:37go they use Roman numerals
0:56:39ok this is an interesting thing about
0:56:40this yes so you know this so this is
0:56:43used with the ball
0:56:44li 451 but what they did was for Super
0:56:48Bowl 50 they broke with that so when you
0:56:50go through and look at all the logos
0:56:51it's like 50 but the one before
0:56:55is Roman newrose it's like xlix and the
0:56:58one after is Li and that must really
0:57:01really annoy you know anal people when
0:57:03they look at the list of Super Bowls and
0:57:04just one of them is not in roman
0:57:06numerals this did cross my radar as a
0:57:09thing some point so this crosses your
0:57:10radar
0:57:11yeah because this is interesting and
0:57:13again it's like oh it's not some like
0:57:14person with his thing it's like oh it's
0:57:17a question about the system and a
0:57:18question about are they going to change
0:57:20the way they do the numbering from the
0:57:22roman numeral system to regular numbers
0:57:25it is interesting
0:57:26right it is interesting it's also it's
0:57:28not obvious time to do it because
0:57:29there's no way to make it not look dumb
0:57:32if you just say Super Bowl L I think
0:57:35sleep about Li looks dumb if it hasn't
0:57:38got xn it's not cool in my opinion
0:57:40yeah that's sure everybody knows x is
0:57:41the coolest letter there's no doubt
0:57:42about that right just like nobody can be
0:57:44as cool as X are great i just had a
0:57:47really good idea what let's number this
0:57:49episode with Roman numerals Brady I
0:57:51would never do that kind of thing I take
0:57:53the consistency of the metadata and the
0:57:56filenames I take it very seriously that
0:57:59would never do such a thing you know if
0:58:01it happened by some kind of madness it
0:58:03must have been a bug in the system or
0:58:05something fairies person renamed it I
0:58:08would never do that you know me Brady
0:58:10right obviously i am i am an OCD kind of
0:58:13guy and so I have to make sure that
0:58:14everything is the same all the time
0:58:16right that's what people know about me
0:58:18so now I'm not going to name this
0:58:19episode or whatever it is i can tell you
0:58:23it's LX ex VII a really good-looking one
0:58:27and it's really big
0:58:28I would never do that Brady it's not
0:58:29gonna happen thank you for not doing
0:58:31that yes I know how much that would
0:58:32annoy people
0:58:33yeah glad you didn't look that was just
0:58:35number for you again great LOL XX VII
0:58:38interesting piece of trivia but not i
0:58:41don't need to write that down looking at
0:58:42relevant do you think they should have
0:58:44abandoned Roman numerals from 50 and 51
0:58:4752 what you'd like they've gone back to
0:58:49it i like consistency in the thing i
0:58:50think if we go with the Roman numerals
0:58:52you should own Super Bowl L even though
0:58:55it looks down i think if you're not
0:58:56gonna do that is totally fine to change
0:58:5850 is a reasonable time to change to use
0:59:00regular numbers but going to the number
0:59:035450 and then back to roman numerals
0:59:05that's the worst of everything so big
0:59:07thumbs down to the Super Bowl committee
0:59:11or whoever's in charge of these things I
0:59:13mentions the NFL but yeah I'm sorry at
0:59:16the NFL
0:59:17what's your vote on everything do you
0:59:18think they should have stuck with Roman
0:59:20numerals they should have had the
0:59:21courage of their convictions to go over
0:59:22Super Bowl L who I can see why the
0:59:25marketing people didn't allow and
0:59:26insisted on 50 little thing I don't
0:59:28understand is why they then accepted li
0:59:30which looks just as lame if not more
0:59:33lame superbowl league
0:59:35I don't know how fouls work
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1:02:33hello internet you know how newspapers
1:02:36like that everybody get youtube today
1:02:38no and the online world so whenever they
1:02:40do report some things happening in
1:02:42youtube I feel a bit like they've just
1:02:43like your grandpa who's just learning
1:02:46about YouTube for the first time and
1:02:47that there's lots of subtleties they
1:02:48don't understand
1:02:50so there's all these stories that i saw
1:02:52in the newspaper today I think it must
1:02:53have been the times because that's the
1:02:551i have sitting down on the kitchen
1:02:57table
1:02:58it is an interesting story but i just
1:03:01think they getting a little bit the
1:03:02wrong end of the stick or they're being
1:03:04a bit unfair basically the story is
1:03:06about how British companies or companies
1:03:09in general as supporting extremist
1:03:13organizations like terrorists and all
1:03:15that sort of stuff and Isis or even the
1:03:18production of like pornographic material
1:03:20oh my by advertising on their videos and
1:03:23in a nutshell what's happened is
1:03:26obviously you know allowed to put like
1:03:29terrorism and extremist stuff on YouTube
1:03:31but some stuff does get through em and
1:03:33some of that stuff is magnetized and
1:03:35then automatic adsense ads appear on
1:03:38those videos so they've got all these
1:03:40screen grabs of like Isis terrorists
1:03:42video people with like mercedes-benz add
1:03:46popping up down the bottom so all of a
1:03:48sudden mercedes-benz is like pouring
1:03:50money into supporting extremists and
1:03:53terrorists and they do point out like
1:03:55you know it's like inadvertent but the
1:03:57thrust of the story is that advertising
1:04:00money is going to support all these
1:04:01extremists videos and that and i was
1:04:03looking at the article and I was
1:04:04thinking
1:04:05this is a bit unfair and they're not
1:04:08really understanding what's going on and
1:04:10what the problem is and what needs
1:04:11fixing and also that it's not that big a
1:04:13problem
1:04:13yea even a word like pouring money into
1:04:16it's like have you seen Adsense ad rates
1:04:18yeah newspaper her yeah yeah unless that
1:04:22is channel has two million subscribers
1:04:24800 million views and integrate with
1:04:27audible little bit better money like
1:04:31they're not getting plane tickets to
1:04:32America
1:04:32this message was not a happy for think
1:04:34like I don't think you understand this
1:04:36is not a super bowl commercial that
1:04:38mercedes-benz has purchased on a
1:04:40terrorist youtube channel it seemed like
1:04:43an easy story and low-hanging fruit and
1:04:46if you're telling the story to someone
1:04:47who doesn't understand
1:04:49youtube and it's being told by people
1:04:51who don't understand youtube I can see
1:04:52how they're getting themselves into a
1:04:54great tease about it was the front page
1:04:55of the newspaper and stuff you know
1:04:57company money supporting extremist
1:04:59organizations but i think it was rather
1:05:03misleading you always trying to get me
1:05:04to pay more attention to the news Brady
1:05:06but every time you bring up a new story
1:05:08just sounds dumber and dumber
1:05:10it's like this nothing thing was the
1:05:12front page story in the newspaper it's
1:05:15just like wow okay that seems like an
1:05:17excellent thing to pay time and
1:05:19attention to its good to know what other
1:05:21people are talking about what other
1:05:22people oh okay so it's not that the news
1:05:25is intrinsically beneficial is just
1:05:27important to know what other people
1:05:29might be hearing about a thing to both
1:05:32anyway I thought it was interesting you
1:05:34know I think anybody who's even slightly
1:05:36internet-savvy understand that the ads
1:05:38just appear before stuff they have
1:05:41nothing at all to do with the thing
1:05:45itself it's like I don't even have the
1:05:46slightest idea that what ads people see
1:05:48on my youtube videos it's like okay like
1:05:50if you could control it would you take
1:05:52those range which you'd like to have
1:05:53more control over who is allowed to
1:05:56advertise on your videos
1:05:57oh god no please no I would actively
1:05:59reject that kind of feel like I don't
1:06:01want anything to do with this
1:06:02let this be somebody else's problem I
1:06:04don't have to decide like with this kind
1:06:06of added easier is not appropriate on
1:06:07the YouTube channel there was a box that
1:06:09said at election time the political
1:06:11parties can or cannot advertise at the
1:06:13start of my videos you don't want that
1:06:15option i mean i would definitely have
1:06:17that option our pictures taken
1:06:19they notice above in revenue when there
1:06:20are elections on my youtube okay and
1:06:23that is no joke like I can point out
1:06:26when the UK election occurred and when
1:06:28the brakes vote occurred by my adsense
1:06:30charts inconsistent this it is quite
1:06:33remarkable so i would definitely leave
1:06:35those on
1:06:36I actually do think somewhere in the
1:06:39bowels of YouTube there is an option to
1:06:42specify do not have certain kinds of ads
1:06:44show I think that once existed but i'm
1:06:46not sure if it still does
1:06:48if it does it's buried because I once
1:06:50used it i mean have you got any
1:06:51principles like if of course I'm not
1:06:54saying you're an unprincipled person but
1:06:55when it comes to like the advert I don't
1:06:57think that's clearly what you're saying
1:06:58like can you envisage any kind of
1:07:01organization that could conceivably
1:07:04advertise on youtube you not wanting
1:07:08them are to be on your videos that you
1:07:10not wanting them to benefit from the
1:07:12exposure your video has created i'm
1:07:14trying to think of an example but it's
1:07:16really hard
1:07:17here's the reason why i think it's hard
1:07:18especially because of the details that
1:07:21matter it's a news story about how the
1:07:22advertising is done on youtube which is
1:07:25that it's an auction if you can imagine
1:07:27a scenario where say some terrorist
1:07:29recruiting network is putting up
1:07:30recruitment ads on YouTube
1:07:32I just can't conceive of any scenario
1:07:35where they could possibly win the
1:07:38instantaneous auction that takes place
1:07:40for which ad is going to be the ad that
1:07:43shows on a YouTube video they're just
1:07:45economics working against the worst of
1:07:48the worst advertisers because it's not
1:07:50going to be roi positive i'm talking
1:07:52about like a big rich lucky I like arms
1:07:54dealers or something about that people
1:07:56that do you have money but they have
1:07:58their money through means that you might
1:08:00not think appropriate but what are the
1:08:02arms dealers trying to sell on youtube
1:08:04this is the problem right it's a mass
1:08:05audience kind of thing and so I just
1:08:08feel like okay some arms dealer who were
1:08:11they selling to
1:08:12I wonder in America are their gun
1:08:13commercials on youtube if you're if
1:08:15you're watching a YouTube video in Texas
1:08:17will be advertisements for guns I don't
1:08:19know I don't know how that works i've
1:08:20never seen one in the UK but I think
1:08:23someone who is trying to sell weapons in
1:08:25the united kingdom is not going to have
1:08:27an roi positive campaign on their
1:08:29YouTube spending money there is one good
1:08:32thing that
1:08:32could come of the times article and i'm
1:08:36not saying this justifies them having a
1:08:38half-baked article or whatever
1:08:39I'm not passing judgment but this is a
1:08:42side effect which I think could come
1:08:43about and that is when these companies
1:08:46mercedes-benz is the one I can remember
1:08:48but there were some other ones named as
1:08:50suddenly on the front page of the times
1:08:52being associated with advertising on
1:08:54Isis videos right in a deeply unfair way
1:08:57got it in a deeply unfair way but also
1:08:59accurate you know their point zero zero
1:09:01zero zero one of the Senate did go to
1:09:03the person who uploaded that video it's
1:09:05technically correct yeah but what I'm
1:09:08saying is what that does do is it
1:09:09creates incredible pressure on YouTube
1:09:13itself to get us back together with the
1:09:16way they're filtering content that
1:09:18shouldn't be on the platform so suddenly
1:09:20the people who are in charge of making
1:09:22sure you know terrorism videos don't
1:09:25sneak through the gaps suddenly have a
1:09:27lot more pressure leaning on them
1:09:29because if you and I complain about it
1:09:30they don't care but if the big companies
1:09:33with their advertising budgets start
1:09:34saying what the hell's going on
1:09:36we're gonna pull all our ads from
1:09:38YouTube until you sort this out because
1:09:40we don't wanna be on the front page of
1:09:41the times again it does bring great
1:09:43pressure to bear
1:09:45nothing puts pressure on youtube more
1:09:47than the advertisers being upset we
1:09:50creators can complain until the cows
1:09:52come home but if the person who spends
1:09:54mercedes-benz advertising budget picks
1:09:56up the phone and says what are you gonna
1:09:58do about these terrorism videos that
1:10:00keep popping up suddenly it's like all
1:10:02hands to the pump
1:10:03yeah it's a nice theoretical story that
1:10:06you have there I would wonder if
1:10:09Mercedes does call it seems like YouTube
1:10:11is pretty serious about doing the best
1:10:12they can to keep the really horrible
1:10:15content off of youtube like that the one
1:10:17actual use of the report button and of
1:10:20course the army of YouTube heroes who I
1:10:22presume are working for YouTube now I
1:10:24don't know how that programs working out
1:10:25haven't heard much about that since it
1:10:28originally was launched the advertisers
1:10:31are the actual customer and source of
1:10:35money for YouTube is it's not a bad
1:10:37thing like as an institution that has to
1:10:40be one of their primary concerns is
1:10:43making sure that the advertisers are
1:10:45happy
1:10:45I would love to know but i'm not exactly
1:10:48sure that a newspaper article in The
1:10:50Times is going to one have a company
1:10:54called YouTube to exert pressure and to
1:10:57result in an actual real internal change
1:11:01in YouTube wasn't going to occur any way
1:11:04or that isn't already being done i don't
1:11:06agree with you
1:11:06ok one article may be but the general
1:11:10principle is that once like traditional
1:11:13media like you know that politicians and
1:11:15vulnerable read they do create pressures
1:11:17that people like you and making planning
1:11:19on youtube don't create but i think it
1:11:22does work i mean there's a practical
1:11:24example and again this wasn't one
1:11:25article it was a series of articles but
1:11:28you look at the I'm sorry to talk about
1:11:30sport but I promise it'll be quick
1:11:32the guy who is in charge of favor of the
1:11:34people that run soccer was really
1:11:37corrupt but no one could get rid of him
1:11:39like he wasn't moving no matter what was
1:11:41said know what was done like he had
1:11:43support from all the people who need
1:11:44support from he couldn't be removed from
1:11:46the presidency and as soon as two or
1:11:49three of the big companies that
1:11:51advertise with feel like they're big
1:11:53corporate sponsors worth you know
1:11:55billions and billions of dollars started
1:11:57saying we just can't be associated with
1:11:59four anymore all of this bad publicity
1:12:01is just so bad for our brand
1:12:03we're pulling a sponsorship the
1:12:05president was gone within a few weeks
1:12:06when advertisers start feeling like
1:12:10their brand is being damaged and they
1:12:13pull away from something that's when
1:12:15action happens and even though
1:12:17mercedes-benz have done nothing wrong
1:12:19their brand is being damaged by being
1:12:22seen on like a terrorism video on the
1:12:24front page of the newspaper that does
1:12:27create change i made this one article
1:12:29you know it's one article and we might
1:12:31shake it off but this sort of thing is
1:12:34what does create change
1:12:35I know what you're saying here but i
1:12:36just think these are done comparing
1:12:38below situations because YouTube already
1:12:42has an incredible motivation to do
1:12:44everything that it can to keep
1:12:46extremists content off of its Channel
1:12:48right whereas the fifa as an
1:12:51organization does not have an incredible
1:12:54desire to keep itself squeaky clean all
1:12:57the time
1:12:58in fact it has the reverse I think
1:13:00there's a different scenario i think
1:13:02you're wrong i think you're wrong i
1:13:03think YouTube's incentive to keep bad
1:13:06material off the platform only extends
1:13:09as far as how they can handle the bad
1:13:11publicity and the flak and the loss of
1:13:14advertising and the criticism
1:13:15other than that why would they care and
1:13:18of course they can put mechanisms in
1:13:19place but it's like the tombstone
1:13:21imperative with planes you know how much
1:13:22to aircraft company spent on safety of
1:13:24planes you know they measure that
1:13:26against how much they can get sued by
1:13:28people dying in a crash course it's the
1:13:30same with YouTube how much are they
1:13:31going to invest in keeping the platform
1:13:34clear of bad content is directly
1:13:36proportional to how their relationship
1:13:38is going to be affected with advertisers
1:13:41and bad publicity and things like that
1:13:42and the more bad publicity and attracts
1:13:45and the more pushback they get from
1:13:47advertisers the more they're going to
1:13:49invest in keeping the platform claim
1:13:51don't want my argument here is not like
1:13:53YouTube the people are better and they
1:13:55care about a thing i'm just looking at
1:13:57the incentives and I think YouTube has a
1:14:00real incentive to keep this stuff off
1:14:02the platform because every video has the
1:14:05potential to be a viral video right
1:14:08instantly they want to shut that down as
1:14:11much and as fast as possible because it
1:14:13damages the YouTube brand if there's
1:14:14some like horrible terrorist video on
1:14:16the channel
1:14:17I'm just saying like I think they
1:14:19probably already have as big of an
1:14:21incentive as they possibly can to try to
1:14:24keep that stuff off not as big as they
1:14:26possibly can because you know at the
1:14:28moment they're using these volunteer
1:14:30heroes instead of employing people to do
1:14:32certain things yeah I'm not criticizing
1:14:34youtube for a flood of extremists videos
1:14:37I've never seen the streams video that
1:14:38you this is all like a theoretical
1:14:40discussion because I've never seen
1:14:41anything like this on youtube but you
1:14:42know I don't think YouTube is pouring
1:14:45all the resources it could pour into
1:14:47certain things to improve the platform
1:14:49and what I'm saying is it will only
1:14:51improve things on the platform
1:14:53freebooting is another example of the
1:14:55other that the Creator is complaining
1:14:56about what they care about much less
1:14:58yeah and that's my point
1:15:00they won't fix anything until it has an
1:15:03advertising implication i think the best
1:15:05action you can take against freebooting
1:15:07and I've said this before but I sort of
1:15:09SAT quietly when you have a video free
1:15:11be too
1:15:12and then there's an advertisement on it
1:15:13for a toothpaste company on the
1:15:15freebooters version the best thing you
1:15:17should do is make a whole bunch of new
1:15:20ways to the toothpaste company and say
1:15:22hey toothpaste company you just
1:15:24advertised on a stolen video that was my
1:15:26video can i have the advertising place
1:15:28you should be compensating may not the
1:15:30person who you know and get up in the
1:15:32face of the toothpaste company and the
1:15:34toothpaste companies like what the hell
1:15:36what's going on we got no idea what
1:15:37you're talking about
1:15:38they contact YouTube and so what's this
1:15:40person making all this noise about like
1:15:42i just bought some advertising off you
1:15:43have no idea what you put on someone's
1:15:45complaining that i owe the money because
1:15:48i've advertised on their video and that
1:15:50is what's gonna make a youtube say
1:15:52bloody hell we need to sort out this
1:15:54copyright situation it's not going to be
1:15:56creators complaining it's going to be
1:15:58advertised as saying we're getting flack
1:16:00about this now what are we supposed to
1:16:02do and then you choose gonna say are we
1:16:04gonna shut this up now
1:16:05ok let's get serious about freebooting
1:16:08i'm curious it have you actually done
1:16:09that at any point i think i have once or
1:16:12twice I have trivially done
1:16:13don't talk yourself up too much they're
1:16:15really i haven't done that like as a
1:16:17campaign and like you know
1:16:18systematically done it but i have
1:16:20discussed it with some of my friends so
1:16:21I just don't want to get involved in
1:16:22like that big a mess but i think that's
1:16:24the mess that would fix rebooting I
1:16:27think the thing that will fix for able
1:16:28to use it every time we see a free beta
1:16:30video we make a note of whose advertised
1:16:32on it and contact those companies and
1:16:34say your money has gone to this person
1:16:37for a video they didn't create I created
1:16:39that I think I should have that money
1:16:41and see what they say and of course
1:16:44you're never gonna get that money but it
1:16:45is gonna make them go indirectly through
1:16:47their advertising companies to youtube
1:16:49and say what the hell's going on man
1:16:51we're getting all this flak on twitter
1:16:53we get all this noise is being made
1:16:55we're being made to look bad because
1:16:56apparently we're advertising on stolen
1:16:58videos we don't even know what this is
1:17:00about
1:17:00I've never even heard the word
1:17:01freebooting can you just make this
1:17:03problem go away please we're going to
1:17:04stop advertising on youtube then you too
1:17:07will say oh god all right
1:17:09yep guys let's fix very building well I
1:17:13look forward to a front-page times
1:17:15article about it's easy company's
1:17:18advertising on evil freebooting channels
1:17:20it's kind of the same thing isn't it
1:17:23just replace extremists content with
1:17:24rebooted gone
1:17:25yeah it's just not quite sexy for the
1:17:27newspaper yeah but instead of the times
1:17:32making the noise it has to be maybe yes
1:17:33but can we make enough noise
1:17:36probably not yeah real fatalistic in the
1:17:39end there Brady here all rah-rah and
1:17:43then sad deflated balloon
1:17:46well I did I have ideas but i don't want
1:17:49to execute them because I just don't
1:17:50want to get involved in the mess
1:17:51sometimes yeah it's a good thing to keep
1:17:53in mind sometimes some ideas are very
1:17:56messy to execute and you you're better
1:17:59off just forgetting about them
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1:20:00the mode please go ahead breathing now
1:20:03this is a funny one
1:20:05this stick with me this came from
1:20:07someone whose name I don't know and they
1:20:09were going for like a job interview at a
1:20:11graduate recruitment type thing
1:20:14here we go you seem to like team stories
1:20:17so I have one from today I went to an
1:20:20interview and for whatever reason we had
1:20:22to choose someone famous that we liked
1:20:24and I chose gray for various reasons
1:20:27brackets I bet he'd hate that is true
1:20:30but i had to speak a bit about him and
1:20:32as I did someone at the interview asked
1:20:35me if I was a tim i was shocked to find
1:20:39a team in the most unlikely of settings
1:20:41and we spoke a bit about the podcast and
1:20:42stuff and it was nice confirmed we're on
1:20:45the same side of the flag debate as a
1:20:47top priority course
1:20:48ok so this is a nice start he's chosen
1:20:52you as his famous person in the
1:20:53interview and he's made up the snap but
1:20:55then it continues what I didn't know in
1:20:58picking cgpgrey though is that we were
1:21:01then given a task we had to pretend to
1:21:04be that person and imagine that you and
1:21:07for others in your group these other
1:21:09people who are doing the interview were
1:21:10on a boat the boat is going to sink
1:21:13unless two people get off and we had to
1:21:16decide who to kick out of the boat
1:21:18everybody for their corner but when it
1:21:21came to my turn I thought the most great
1:21:24thing to do would be to respond by
1:21:26saying let's just leave it to chance
1:21:27since we can't rank human life so easily
1:21:30ultimately nobody else agreed and cgp
1:21:35was kicked off the boat along with
1:21:36another sportsman while Michelle Obama
1:21:38and someone i can't recall another
1:21:40sportsman was saved so by trying to
1:21:43channel you gray he got himself kicked
1:21:46off the boat and died
1:21:47what kind of interview was this i don't
1:21:49know it sounds like you know that's the
1:21:50kind of stuff people do these days is
1:21:52this
1:21:52standard operating procedure a job
1:21:54interviews it does happen sometimes
1:21:55that's how they can assess how you work
1:21:57in teams and groups i had a funny story
1:21:59like this I'll come to that in a minute
1:22:00but first of all the things that this
1:22:02team wants to know after he failed in
1:22:04this he didn't get the job by the way
1:22:06either but that's another thing what he
1:22:08wants to know is did he act correctly by
1:22:10gray how would gra react to this
1:22:13did he do the right thing when he was
1:22:14asked to fight his corner on the boat
1:22:16when they were deciding whether these
1:22:18two sports players michelle obama
1:22:20cgpgrey you know what two should be
1:22:22kicked off did he play it right
1:22:24I know this is very hard to ask you
1:22:25because you have the actual cgpgrey but
1:22:28what do you think
1:22:30well when you're laying out the scenario
1:22:32of your boat right it's sinking
1:22:34instantly many many details matter in
1:22:38this hypothetical no no no okay don't
1:22:42know don't get exact your big mr. Easter
1:22:43Bunny isn't real now no I'm not saying
1:22:45that these are easy running isn't real
1:22:46but it does matter because what i want
1:22:50to know is essentially how close is this
1:22:53to like the zombie apocalypse scenario
1:22:56are we in the middle of the ocean is no
1:22:59one ever going to know what happened on
1:23:01this boat because if we are then he's
1:23:05totally right that i would propose like
1:23:07let's draw straws
1:23:08let's do this the fairway and see who
1:23:10gets kicked off the boat but if i draw
1:23:12the short straw i am going to literally
1:23:14try to murder everybody else on that
1:23:16boat before getting picked up because
1:23:17what do I have to lose
1:23:19what about honor what about just being
1:23:20honorable and like dying with dignity
1:23:22dying with dignity is for suckers right
1:23:24I'm not doing ok
1:23:25however however there's a medical
1:23:27question here which is you're on a job
1:23:30interview and somebody is asking you
1:23:32this question about like what would this
1:23:33person do it is like don't give that
1:23:35answer
1:23:36don't say oh I would murder everybody if
1:23:38i draw the short straw is not a good
1:23:40answer to get a job interview
1:23:41well let me tell you what happened to my
1:23:42job interview I had this job interview
1:23:44for a baby same position I can you know
1:23:47seconded for a year or so and they put
1:23:50four of us all going for the same job
1:23:52which is interesting in itself because
1:23:53it already you're kind of like you're
1:23:55with your rivals they put four of us in
1:23:57a circle and the people interviewing us
1:23:59like we're in the corners like just
1:24:01watching and like taking notes
1:24:03what happened was we were assigned like
1:24:05big story we had to cover we had to do a
1:24:07report on will give him the rough
1:24:09outline of what the story was and we had
1:24:11to like I don't know what the word is
1:24:13but you know workshop the ideas and
1:24:14decide how we're gonna tackle the story
1:24:16and like as a team and everyone was
1:24:20saying a few ideas and i stayed pretty
1:24:21quiet and then I had what I thought was
1:24:24a really good idea and like most of my
1:24:25day is it was a bit out of left field
1:24:26and i said okay everyone here's my idea
1:24:29and I told them all like this crazy plan
1:24:32that would cover it like this and we
1:24:33doing this different way and would be
1:24:34really creative and clever and they all
1:24:37kind of is not a window yeah it's a
1:24:40really good idea you know thanks for
1:24:41your contribution em and then that is
1:24:43completely ignored me and went back to
1:24:45discussing all the old-fashioned boring
1:24:47ways of doing that I didn't like Lou and
1:24:50I basically just spat the dummy and I
1:24:52was like fine i'm just a around a bunch
1:24:55of non-creative people I can't win and I
1:24:57just SAT there in the corner and like
1:24:59apparently I was I learned later from
1:25:01the people who are observing me I
1:25:03started like fiddling my foot up and
1:25:05down and looking irritable and I can i
1:25:07do with quiet and stopped contributing
1:25:09and stuff like that
1:25:11mhm and afterwards I got the job and I
1:25:15sort of said to the person who gave me
1:25:17the job like uh huh and I'd like this
1:25:19was you know a long time later when
1:25:20talking about the interview and I said
1:25:21why did I get the job but you know
1:25:23because they're all much nicer than me
1:25:25and and he said your idea was so
1:25:28ridiculously good
1:25:29mmm that the minute you said and all the
1:25:32other people like ignored and didn't
1:25:33realize it was a good idea
1:25:34they just wrote themselves all out
1:25:36instantly and then we just thought it
1:25:38was funny that you set there like so
1:25:40obviously infuriated that no one could
1:25:42see your good idea and we just wanted to
1:25:44employ someone had good ideas say like
1:25:48it was to like observe at teamwork and
1:25:50see how well we work in a team like I
1:25:52clearly don't work well in a team and
1:25:54showed that related care because they
1:25:55were like no well I guess we don't
1:25:57really want a team player just want
1:25:59someone who's gonna have a few ideas
1:26:00teamwork is overrated I gray light gray
1:26:03we all know teamwork really means
1:26:05there's one or two horses pulling eighty
1:26:08percent of the wait
1:26:09yeah and everybody else is in the cart
1:26:11that's what teamwork means no
1:26:14I want to quickly mention another
1:26:16listener who I've ignored for too long
1:26:20I've been meaning to bring this up for a
1:26:21few episodes and having this person has
1:26:23gone above and beyond the call of duty
1:26:25so i think should get a quick mention
1:26:26someone called nick nick says hello
1:26:30internet was the first podcast I ever
1:26:31listen to this started me on a journey
1:26:33to discover my love for the medium to
1:26:36commemorate and thank you both i decided
1:26:38to show my true loyalty and I've gotten
1:26:41a nail and gear tattoo I've attached the
1:26:44image below thank you both for some
1:26:47wonderful hours so let me show you
1:26:50Nick's Nile and gear tattoo it's not the
1:26:55only tattoo next on his arms you can say
1:26:57that is a that is quite a decision it is
1:27:01it is i feel like i don't quite want the
1:27:04burden of that decision
1:27:06well you didn't make its alright this
1:27:07was done before either of us knew about
1:27:09it yes no that's true you did make the
1:27:11image publicly available though so i
1:27:13think you have got some responsibility i
1:27:15know that's not how that works at all
1:27:18by giving the image to the people to do
1:27:19with what they want i think is the exact
1:27:22reverse of claiming responsibility for
1:27:24how the images used 10 you did you not
1:27:26responsible you enabled enabling yeah
1:27:28yeah and I got a neighborhood that's
1:27:29true yeah in fact that you're not gonna
1:27:33give me to argue against that one there
1:27:34are no maximum enabling so we've had an
1:27:37explanation will put a picture in the
1:27:38show notes for anyone who wants to see
1:27:40the Nile and ghetto and maybe will also
1:27:43link to the image in case you two want
1:27:45to get a nail in Kyoto I wouldn't be
1:27:50doing my job if I didn't ask you if you
1:27:52have a tattoo
1:27:53I mean do you need to ask good diet
1:27:55makes it sound like I've seen you naked
1:27:57yes I don't need to ask because i have
1:27:59not seen you make it but yeah we were
1:28:03real too much okay
1:28:04of course I don't have a tattoo Brady
1:28:06now there's no way I would ever get a
1:28:08tattoo actually do you have a tattoo you
1:28:10seem like a guy who would get a tattoo
1:28:11what tattoo what I have I don't know
1:28:13you'd have something that mattered in
1:28:17the moment I can totally see you getting
1:28:20a tattoo yeah it just because you walked
1:28:23past a tattoo parlor and there was a
1:28:25thought on your head
1:28:26some like comic book can
1:28:28director you liked when you were 18 and
1:28:30we're legally old enough to get a tattoo
1:28:31i gots something that has the life span
1:28:33of a gnat it is the kind of thing that
1:28:36you would have as a tattoo yeah I've got
1:28:38one here that says the Phantom Menace is
1:28:39gonna be awesome right yeah I love
1:28:42beating videocassettes yeah
1:28:45honest-to-god Brady I wouldn't be the
1:28:48least bit surprised if you had something
1:28:49like that on your lower back really
1:28:51right now it's just I really wouldn't I
1:28:53could totally see you having a tattoo
1:28:54easily do you know i do not i'm actually
1:28:57mildly surprised that there isn't a
1:28:58secret pretty tattoo somewhere I'd say
1:29:01I'm antigua really why don't i don't
1:29:04mind other people getting it like I
1:29:05don't think less of them yes its
1:29:07people's bodies to do with what they
1:29:08want
1:29:09yeah but I just you know I'm bit of a
1:29:11fence-sitter i'm not one to be permanent
1:29:13and they're not to my taste
1:29:16they're not to my aesthetic taste
1:29:18sometimes but you know teach there i
1:29:21mean the nail and gears a beautiful
1:29:23design that is beautiful design
1:29:25democratically chosen I tell you what
1:29:29flag flag would not be a good tattoo
1:29:31it's true and very hot very good flag
1:29:33flag tattoo no I wouldn't like it that
1:29:36way to someone gets a flag flag tattoo
1:29:37i'll tell you what that's dedication to
1:29:40the cause for the rebel scum
1:29:42if you really love flag flag so much
1:29:44let's see your flag flag ghettos people
1:29:47yeah yeah go on you're playing with fire
1:29:50here played you you're playing with
1:29:53people live yeah that's what you're
1:29:55doing do this era don't listen to the
1:29:59brady people don't listen don't get a
1:30:00flag flag tattoo artist branding
1:30:02yourself as a loser then literally the
1:30:05thing that I'm worried about is I can
1:30:06imagine some Brady like person who is
1:30:08listening to the podcast was walking
1:30:09past a tattoo parlor right now who like
1:30:11you could just be influenced for a
1:30:13moment to do with things so now hang on
1:30:15a second grade just because you came up
1:30:17with this fantasy that I get whimsical
1:30:19tattoos like for no apparent reason i
1:30:22thought we'd established you were wrong
1:30:24and i have not done this so don't say
1:30:25that that's a brady like thing to do
1:30:28I've never done it you haven't done it
1:30:30I'm just simply saying that if if we
1:30:32wait long enough and you walk past
1:30:34enough tattoo parlors I feel like it's
1:30:36inevitable that at some point you would
1:30:38think it was a good enough idea to do I
1:30:40really do
1:30:41now next time you visit London I'm gonna
1:30:43going to keep walking past a two-party
1:30:44that natural gray you don't know you
1:30:46made like go look at that look at that
1:30:48butterfly
1:30:49isn't it pretty that I'm a total square
1:30:51bear how does nails you know I wouldn't
1:30:54make a noise when it was big daddy of
1:30:55course I'd be tough for haha now i don't
1:30:57think it's for me but hey you know
1:30:59tomorrow's another day