00:00:00 ◼ ► I just kind of feel like like I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► discovered fills in San Francisco once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► last year and I'm probably never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► go there again I guess what I looked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► the map and there is a philsie within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/12">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► few blocks of the san jose convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/14">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► oh yeah alright yeah ok hydrogen-ion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► there a lot it's like not like across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/21">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► the street but it's probably about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/23">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► close as the one the just couple blocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/25">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► as we go to get place that's AII do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► wonder how different the culture of sand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/31">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► I've never been to San Jose like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/34">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► been only and only a handful of times in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► Silicon Valley at all and and so San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► Jose is is even less familiar to me than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► the rest of it and but you've got to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/44">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► couple events here in there right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/47">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► including the only time I ever set foot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► October event so isn't the one a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/55">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► after the big iphone event they did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► iPads and I think that was when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► current form factor of the imac debuted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► with the inside not yet retina of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/66">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► yeah and was the last public event Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► held while Scott Forstall was was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► executive yeah I was that was I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/76">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► so I still remember like the day that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► that he was officially announced as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► being out we were actually Tiffany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/85">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► vacation seattle i was like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► weird clothing store with her like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► killing time my phone I'm trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► catch up on what the heck just happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/92">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► everyone was exploding about it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► yeah I don't know it so speaking of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► of our imax though I have a bone to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/97">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► with you about that I believe that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/100">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► you and I have the same 2014 first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► 5k imac correct does yours have problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/106">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► the image retention know you're lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► well either that or rarely I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► it it's possible that maybe I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► maybe if my eyes were what they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► be i would see it but it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/121">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► like yours here's why here's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► would see in particular because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► most commonplace I see it this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► started happening over the last few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► and and it's I know you're gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► yeah exactly just happened over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► few months and it's getting worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► quickly and so what happens is I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► talking about burning like I'm plasma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/141">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► TVs right you have a something burning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► retention where basically you you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► of see like the ghost image of what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► there before for a few minutes and i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► get like fades over like a minute or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► so if you have something high-contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► up for five or ten minutes say so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► instance when your podcasting and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/161">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► have a couple windows up there might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/162">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► have like text no to skype window or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/164">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► whatever else and then you go to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► web browser and you load a dark grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► website then you will see the shadows of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/170">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► black-and-white windows you will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/177">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► those very clearly against the gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► background of the website you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► yeah it's ok for avi almost always gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► I on my previous display and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► ancient I I used to talk about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/193">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► podcast but before getting this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/195">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► this 5k imac what was that like two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/197">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► a half years ago now i guess yeah i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► using a 20 inch apple cinema display not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► 24-inch 20-inch from Cochise must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/208">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► like 2000-2002 or something I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/212">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► don't know it was really maybe it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► quite that old but it was really pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/217">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► old and I was sort of in a Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/218">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► situation where I it was long past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/223">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► point where I could have easily afforded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/228">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► to replace it and they're all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/229">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► good options i could have bought but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/232">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► was sort of hoping for something ratna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► for ever and ever and ever and so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/236">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► kept putting it off it's like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► way I'm spending a thousand dollars on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/240">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► an Apple even no matter how you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► guess they were 30 inch for a while then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► they went to 27 inch but I just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► feel like buying it got to have retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► knowing that retinol would come out any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► year now for Morrison years and years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/251">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► my i was using and that display after it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/254">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► must have been over had to be at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/257">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► 10 years old and I used it every day had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► terrible image retention and i know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► exactly where you're going because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/262">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► open it really is like most if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► dealing with other black-and-white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► windows you don't really see it as often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► but when you when you've had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► black and white up for a while and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/273">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► you switch to a large expanse of grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► you see it very clearly and you and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► initial thought is always I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► realize that Safari was translucent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► exactly like I I always I always think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► it's like window translucency and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► like oh that's that's a weird design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/287">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► oh wait that isn't a design is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/289">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► when i first encountered it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► exactly what I thought is I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► maybe at some point I did hit some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► of weird i died i diddled something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► the terminal with defaults write write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► trying to let you know calm calm down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► apple start safari / you know their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/302">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► something like that right exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► because that's exactly what I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/309">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► sorry about that but now now that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/311">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► I don't want to send this thing in for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/316">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► repair not using my main computer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/317">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► like two weeks or however long it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► two-and-a-half years under even daily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► honestly yeah I I don't like and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► like Oh am I gonna get one that has used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/329">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► I'm always worried that not even gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/332">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► believe me or that or that i can replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► it because they don't think they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► think it's bad enough you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► though i don't mean there's not i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/338">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► have a lot of basis for those feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► it's just like it's such a it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► hassle to send away my main computer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► especially the larger get a laptop i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► could bring into a genius bar maybe have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► something faster maybe but like because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► it's such an ordeal haul this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/354">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► anywhere and ship it anywhere and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► don't know i don't like my current plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► is to just hope that they do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► with like an imac pro or a mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► sometime this year before my applecare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► runs out in october and then i can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/369">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► send this in for repair and then when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/374">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► get back from repair sell it if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/376">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► got application should definitely do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/378">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► although you have to be without it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► it's a pain yeah it's like I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► to switch to my new crappy keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► touch bar you know I haven't I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► bought applecare since 1991 the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► reason I bought it on this and and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/390">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► with you most of the time you learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/392">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► the bottom this is that apple care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► the pricing is based on these tears of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► the product they apply to a fourteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► hundred dollar imac has the same apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► care costs as a 4500 are fully loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► one right and so I was buying the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/406">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► first generation of a new thing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/410">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► 5k and so I thought you know what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/412">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► only like 200 bucks or something was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/414">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► was not a lot of money for what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► something like a 4400 all configurations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► because i got like really maxed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/421">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► because my main computer and I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► you know at the ratio their pay so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► don't really get it for anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/426">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► but in in cases where like you're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/427">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► early maxed-out configure something it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/430">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► often does pay off because it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/432">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► low relative cost i think we might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► literally the same machine i know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► actually do you know I max out the ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/438">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► 32 gigs and i would if i could you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/439">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► a terabyte right i think i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/442">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► terabyte drive because I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/445">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► wouldn't you want it because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► only drive i keep attachments to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/448">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► time actually don't even know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► that's something but wow it's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/453">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► a terabyte I don't see how i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/456">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► able to function if it wasn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/458">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► terabyte and then what I get the 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/460">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► ya think ya enjoy enjoy a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/465">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► screen you will know quickly if it ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/467">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► yes iiiir my dr 999 point three eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/471">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► gigabytes just bullshit i ripped off you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► get the full terabyte yeah I boy I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► hope i get i hope i can fix this easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► I don't know ATP tipster said that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► was a problem with that with the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/486">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► that we have the 2014 but they fixed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► for the 2015 model and just still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/490">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► current model but i guess i can have new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/492">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► ones like in marks or whatever who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► with yeah we can get to march and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/497">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► have to have to get to that to Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/499">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► kind of sounds like apples gonna release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► like 15 things in marks like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► that's kind of what like all the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/506">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► are pointing to like for ipads new imacs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/507">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► new 12-inch MacBook one you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► like and new watch bands and who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/514">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► what on the software side you know new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/517">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► ipad stuff maybe I mean there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► that there is such a giant list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► things that rumor people expect to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► you see this i don't have been into link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► to it and I haven't because I forget why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/529">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► i think it might be because i can't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/532">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► the guys name and I keep you and I ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► into the same thing with somebody on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► omd or something like that or yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/539">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► didn't he like didn't have his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/542">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► anywhere in any of the stuff we both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/544">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► want to link to a man named you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► they like nice and right like i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► say i think he didn't he responded sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► like he didn't want to be named Lucy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/552">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► evenly first name was the hardest and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/554">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► said something like he's building this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/556">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► brand on AMD or something like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/557">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► it's it's harder for me to link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/559">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► somebody who is anonymous and idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/561">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► really gets me and I had to say it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/563">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► you but it it's true is it was often it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► seems like I link a lot less frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► anymore to people who have tumblr blogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► just anecdotally but back when tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► was sort of at its peak as a blogging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► platform like I'm not saying that tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► is is in decline but i think it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► decline for the sort of blogging that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► tend to link to return fireball an awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► lot of of tumblr sites don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► the person's real name on it it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► their their tumblr handle and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/591">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► always a big hassle for me and have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/594">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► like figure out what their twitter name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/596">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► was and go to their twitter page and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► find a real name from there like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/599">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► didn't even seem like it was people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/600">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► are trying to hide their name it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/602">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► sort of idiomatic for tumblr but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/603">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► there's this site here that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► actually was actually designed that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/608">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► like we we meant it to be like as in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/609">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► they like the same way that like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/612">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► account could have multiple blogs right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► and that the there would be no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/616">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► tell unless you put it there which blogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/617">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► belong to which account arrives like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/621">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► know if it was very easy to create an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► anonymous things that weren't tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/625">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► your main identity and that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/627">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► much intentional because like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/629">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► else the time like to keep my like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► made tumblr as kind of a response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► myspace and Facebook and and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/635">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► big social networks that work that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► big when we started in 2006 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► Twitter wasn't really and Twitter exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► if it wasn't big so that was really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/644">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► response to those that were all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/645">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► getting your real name and putting all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► your stuff out in public under your real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/649">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► name and you know it a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/650">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► can't or won't give their real name for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► a lot of stuff they want to do online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► and so you you enable a lot more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► creativity and different types of uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► anonymous so that was kind of that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/665">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► kinda like the ethos from the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/667">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► of like you can make a different blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/668">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► it's no risk it's not gonna like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/670">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► know look bad upon you this is before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► all the hate crap that we have today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/674">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► think it might be a little bit different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► calculation their way back then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/678">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► most of the haight was confined to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/680">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► French forms and stuff and they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► I don't even know they are now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/684">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► think they are but regardless of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► idea of getting like anonymous identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► out there very very easily was quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/691">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► positive thing in 2006 anyway I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► saying that like it's to a guy named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► Thomas for Shirin at very short dot-com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► here's a Twitter link so i got his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► interesting speculation hear that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/705">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► it's purely his guess it doesn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► he's not claiming any sort of sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► but what he's saying is that when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/712">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► made standalone displays they tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/713">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► sell them for a long time the 27th LED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/716">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► display was on sale for three years the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/718">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► 27-inch Thunderbolt Display was on sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► for five years I guess they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► selling it for today today they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/724">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► I don't even know no no no they just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/727">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► know like a year and a half ago so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► can't even buy an outdated apple display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► at this point no like that mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► might go to find somebody left in stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/735">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► but happy to have someone new for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/737">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► while so here's his gas is his gas is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► the that Apple didn't want to release a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► 5k standalone cinema display back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► October when they did all the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/748">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► macbooks that could use them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/750">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► they weren't yet ready to sell one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► true tone because they don't have true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► tone in the imac either none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/757">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► desktop max2 and so is he says here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/758">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► conclusion if you were Apple what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/762">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► you choose to do release and I an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► 5k cinema display in 2016 and then sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/765">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► it for a few years unchanged without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► true tone or push the LG display in 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/770">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► as a stopgap and release an apple 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► true tone display some time in 2017 so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/778">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► that is anybody who's still holding on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/781">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► to a thread of hope that Apple hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/784">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► abandoned the standalone display game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/785">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► of suspect that they are done but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► there's this there's a wee bit of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► here in my opinion I mean so the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► about like you know they they tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/798">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► have these displays the last for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► certain amount of time throw that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/801">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► out doesn't matter right doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/802">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► doesn't matter how long things have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/803">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► out like five years they did this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► very small sample size Apple does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/806">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► artificially hold things back simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► because the last one is only three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► old instead of four years old I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► that's that's it's this is too small the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/814">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► correlation to matter and that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► I think the only question here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/819">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► whether whether we believe that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/821">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► would hold back this display and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► through the kind of a assume the LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► Display was perfect which it isn't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/829">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► they still took a big PR hit in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► push that as this as the solution and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/835">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► unchallenged for months that and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► so far that they are out of this display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/841">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► yeah but what if they had no choice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/844">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► more but it is that is that more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/845">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► then them wanting to save true tone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/848">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► the imac they don't sell them anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/852">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► access whole lot more laptops it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► not surprise me if when the Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/855">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► Display that they just read that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► they discontinued recently that one when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► it was new it wouldn't surprise me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► that outsold the imac when it was new it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► but it might not but they sell a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► laptops and cell a lot of these displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► for laptops for their laptops and so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/872">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► don't see them holding back something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/876">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► that their customers very clearly want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/879">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► replacing a product that was incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► out of date only for the purpose of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► of its really minor features like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► jumping ahead of the imac getting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► same feature is that it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/892">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► like that would be important enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/893">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► them to justify the downside of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/894">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► strategy but if the original plan was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/896">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► like a year in advance or well over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/898">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► year ago if they had hoped to also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/900">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► 5k imax at the end of 2016 2 with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► tone and all things just maybe if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/905">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► plausible buy homes i'm not saying how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/910">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► likely it is but the whole thing seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► plausible to me that it's some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► screw up or you know maybe screw-up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► too harsh of award but something didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► go according to plan and and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/924">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► where they are i don't know i still love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/926">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► it I brought it up the other week on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/927">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► this show and then there must be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► awful lot of people who listen to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► show who don't listen to ATP because its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/932">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► highest you might expect the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/934">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► feedback I got was that the observation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/935">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► we got so I got so much email about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► ripping off Syracuse's observation from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/940">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► ATP which I did credit him with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/943">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► what is a plan to do in your beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/945">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► new campus stuff all arrays and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► supposedly has a more open floor plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/950">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► where you'll see more of the your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► colleagues desks are they good i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► to put one of these ugly LG monitors on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► every single one of these Johnny I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/959">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► designed desks like Johnny I've is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► bottoming like often the woods you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/963">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► nailing desks together out of like wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► that comes from one special brand of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/968">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► tree that grows in northern Italy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/970">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► something and they're gonna put ugly LG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► monitors on all these desks i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/974">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► that's that's also a good counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/978">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► argument but i think it's it's just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/980">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► likely that you could just say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► there are there solutions just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/983">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► gonna give most engineers and stuff Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/984">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► like I'm actually get it it really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► seem like a and again this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/988">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► blown into the water and apple releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/992">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► a brand new mac pro I'm a pro whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/993">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► it is in in july but i think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/996">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► unlikely i think that was gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/997">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► we would have a lot more than casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► speculation about it by now the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► that there's nothing in the pipeline to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► make me believe it's definitely had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► and so I really do think it's very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► that we all have wishful thinking that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► goes in a different direction but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► reality is it's most likely that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► really is out of the display business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► and the protest business and the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► mini business and is really just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► to make the imac and macbook pro they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► I've heard that I think I figure if I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► talked about this i've heard that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► is a new mac pro in the pipeline but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► that it is it sounds ridiculous but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► it's effectively like in a slot where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► there's so many other machines whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► their macs are other things that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► are getting testing and like validation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► no resources ahead of it there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► it's gonna ship by WTC with sequins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► ridiculous but well yeah okay even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► they I mean here's the thing most most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► people who feel bad about Apple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► of the lack of mac pro updates at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► they don't necessarily need to ship at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► WTC I think what would what would come a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► lot of fears my own included would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► confirmation that something else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► coming like just confirmation even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► you want to like one of their like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► of BSE replies to the press like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► know keep an eye out of this based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► whatever else like something and Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► Cook's like little Q&A response to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► internal Baltimore think of few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► back that wasn't enough that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► actually in fact making things worse i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► think my kind of implying that the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► was going to be going to get going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► forward I that's all we really want here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► but again i I just I it's what i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► be true i want there to be a new mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► of some sort and if it's if it's shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► like an imac and it has a built-in 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► screen and it just has a xeon processor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► in it with like a thicker back for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► bigger heatsink that's fine i'll take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► that actually sounds kind of nice to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► it wouldn't be as ideal standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► because then i have the same problem i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► have now and get some attention after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► send the whole thing in but I take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► it's better than nothing that'd be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► yeah it leads to a nice matter leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► with the weird situation that's again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► better than nothing if they made an imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► pro and put is somehow put his Dion in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► there and solve the heat problems that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► would you know I say that technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► possible the big guy i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► it's possible although I talking to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► tipster about this a little bit in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► chat few weeks ago he pointed out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► the logic board in the imac faces the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► wrong way to really make that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► like I think the cpu faces towards you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► when you're sitting at it and 222 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► drastically improve the heat capacity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► be able to cool like a high-powered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► on-chip to make it more Mac Pro Class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► processing power you need to flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► whole logic board around we should kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► of be like a redesign on level of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► whole new imac generation the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► is like what Apple really do that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► you know relatively low volume i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► guess they design all case before but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► like it sure does seem like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► couldn't possibly care less about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► keeping the mac pro updated in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► reasonable fashion and so it really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► is a pretty big question whether they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► would basically redesign the entire imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► enclosure and a whole new computer just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► for this line that they haven't given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► two craps about 43 years it's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► I think it's probably the imac prose is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► possible or that they'll sell it as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► pro somehow i don't know but I i hope i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► wish for to be true but i just don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► it right but I there's gotta be a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► why they don't just stop selling the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► pro's there's some contingent within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► company that's clearly hoping for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► mac pro's otherwise that it would be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► would be easier it would be easier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► they did look less foolish if they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► cancelled the mac pro like it lasts WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► if they just said hey these midterms are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► so great it's you know it's all that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► know the time for the standalone is gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► whatever it would even people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► disagree obviously and there'd be people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► who would be heartbroken in there be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► people who are furious but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► alright like yeah because they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► looks bad now I get really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:54 ◼ ► situation now is is kind of egregiously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1254">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► it's it's kind of a bear thing it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► to believe it's really kind of hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► believe how old it is it really is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► still my biggest regret is that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► ask Schiller about it on stage last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► and I had the card I had it I had it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► a card and I did not something you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► people understand but I it it's so hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► to keep that thing going live and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► it was my one and only regret from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► whole show that the year before when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► shoulder was on the first time I had way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► more regrets afterwards and I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► my myself criticism really helped and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► did a better job last year but my one my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► right my 1r can't believe it and now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► look at this we're already at the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► where WWE has been announced again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► and like the one reason why i put it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► a lower priority at first and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► towards the end when I was wrapping up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► was like flipping through the cards i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► had left and it just didn't i didn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► that one which I'm you know I might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► is like a last question but the reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► originally had it lower in the stack was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► I thought well they gotta do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► hey but that like yeah and get them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► the record now but it's only for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► next you know two to three months so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► oh and it's you know it's hard like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► you're in a situation like what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► doing with the with these you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► executive interviews like it's hard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► know we got a little bit a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► this for me when ATP i interviewed liner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► few weeks ago which was grand like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► we had a couple people ask us afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► like on Twitter and email and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► why did you ask him about the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► oh you can ok that's yeah it's like a it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► even if he knew about macros stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► can you know you're not going to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► that and be the guy who writes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► compiler probably has no clue about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► the mac pro hardware team is doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► what might or might not be released in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► the department like it's a big company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► like the dancerly anyway your contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► like interviewing chiller onstage like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► it's tough to know whether you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► bust out a question like that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► slightly antagonizing and really put him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► on the spot it because like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► very good chance that you would just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► like a non-answer you know just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► nice PR friendly non-answer kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► you know kind of tempo stubborn you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► we really love desktop great desktops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► coming in the future and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► and that's that's not very helpful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► then you just like shifted the tone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► the interview in a way that now they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► on edge or yeah that's likely to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► you in the future so it's it's a tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► balance and so I don't I don't blame you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► front for asking that it wasn't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► I thought it was known you for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► asking if this yeah I this year it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► guys did you ask the first question yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► well have a watch on the end of the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► you know I don't know somebody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► something when i get this latter right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► like all of a sudden shoulder doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► return my calls you know it's there now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► I i would have because there's ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► ask and I feel like that's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1438">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► that I you know maybe why I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► gotten to this position where I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► this is where i can ask the question but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► confrontational you know I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► framing I would have used his look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► audience in particular it is largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► comprised of people who use xcode which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► is one of the apps where it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► extra see every better cpu power can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► really help at times you know and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► yeah and you know we're wearing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► objective-c the Swift and Swift I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► think it's fair to say is more taxing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► the comp on the cpu and objective-c it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► seems like the Swift compilers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► you can you can write swift code that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► takes a lot longer to compile but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► whatever it certainly is an easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► compile and there's a just a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► sentiment that apples apples priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► for pro hardware in general are lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► than they used to be you know the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► pro is I don't whatever I want 900 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► old at this time after an incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► splashy debut you know what the heck is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► I don't think that Woods is like making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► you know something i'm putting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► spot and it's easy can easily say and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► maybe that's all we would have said is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► hey you know we we love you guys we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► you but you know I could you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► know I can't talk about future stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► didn't say that and then that's the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► of its you know so it's possible but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► least I would have asked ya anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► there's always there's always future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► executive podcast interviews live at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► everybody I love the liner interview by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► the way I don't hide it was really an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► especially for a show that almost never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► does interviews I mean that you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► have never at that there was one a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► time ago or no I guess you guys swapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► you guys swapped with another show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► yeah we had John trade spots with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► christina warren right for one episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► which actually turned out really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► but it wasn't really an interview show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► just like she just brings another host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► and I thought that for a show that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► an established rhythm between the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► of you in which really none of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► really interview style and there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► incredible comfort level between your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► personalities to have somebody new on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► and do a three-way interview where each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► all three of you asked good questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► that was really impressive because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► hard to do because it was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► yeah that's like office instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► driving a car you're here riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► bicycles or something but yeah it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► lot of fun and Chris was he made it easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► on us like he wasn't like a prima donna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► about anything and you know just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► easy to work with and no super nice guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► it's you know it it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► obviously not true from top to bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► but it is generally true that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► tends to attract very nice people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► yeah you know I mean federer is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► example where you know I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► he's like in real personal life but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► know like backstage and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► and when you see him at WTC and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► people come up and and you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► random attendees are like hey can I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► a selfie or whatever he stops and talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► for you know five minutes with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► asks what they're doing heat he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► across like talking to a group of five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► you know first time at WWDC at WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► attendees wearing the WWDC jacket he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► comes across exactly the same demeanor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► that he has on stage so like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► affection that people seem to have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► him it's true that seems to be his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► personality and Latin is exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► type of personalities is you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► yeah whatever they tell you about last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► year WC when i visited apples and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► Facebook's campuses in the same day yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► it's all sort of blurs together i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► remember you doing it but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► remember what the details really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► interesting like so you know you and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► in both cases like what you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► mean and Casey a couple of their friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► we just had like but we had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► French company that wanted like just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► know give us like quick tour let us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► that was around stopped at an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► I only saw like you know the the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► know center courtyard and the and caffe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► macs because you know you can't bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► people into the building's really Becker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► from yeah exactly so I didn't see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► didn't see any actual offices but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► was able to see like the courtyard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► hang out and have lunch everybody there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► and and we had lunch with something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► 15 people this giant table and so I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► to meet a lot of people there and hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► out for a game at a time and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► pretty coffee and apple even affymax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► gotta say and and you know kind of get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► feel for the vibe of the campus even I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► didn't see any offices and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► couple hours later we went to facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► and I'd never been to either of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► campuses before i had been to the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► retail store but I've never gone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► through the doors into the courtyard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► I'm actually not sure I was allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► they have some kind of weird rules about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► bloggers but i think im just under like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► I'm I'm not really officially apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► press any capacity i never have been and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► so I think that's why it wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► problem that i was there like I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► friend who tried to go who was apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► press and was not allowed in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1736">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► was interesting but anyway so seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► apple and then seeing Facebook could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► have been to more different company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► culture and environments at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► visibly from these brief as I did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► the whole time I was there like I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► kind of creeped out and intimidated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► just how bizarre and kind of intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► high energy but not high positive energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► it seemed to be like just really like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► don't know it's hard to explain i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► really did I really got a very bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► feeling from facebook a combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► like how does anybody get any work done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► here and where are the adults and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► and it just didn't feel good it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► like a dysfunctional workaholic culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► that was hard to get any real work done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:52 ◼ ► in an environment that's kind of weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1792">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► like we like trapped in youth forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► bizarre bizarro college fantasy world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► and then Apple was so like calm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► adult and just like nicely like low-key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► the people there were just like nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► comedy it kind of felt like oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► where the adults work like this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► like where people come to actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► serious work and it was a much it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► whatever the environment actually is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► you know again because I've never worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► at these companies and didn't even go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► inside the office at Apple it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► me to really say this but it just felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► like the little tiny windows into these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► cultures I saw really just seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► Apple was the place where like the nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► mature adults go to work I i could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► that I I don't know if you'd get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► definitely seems like people who go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► apple and I mean it's you know company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► cultures attract like-minded people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► know but it does seem to me like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► general like when I've been there people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► know how to turn it off and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► that when you're going to lunch and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► going to have lunch with a friend there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:01 ◼ ► their they're just having lunch with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1861">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► friend you know right yeah get back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► to speed when they get back to work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► whatever and that's all you want thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► like I I don't hear a lot of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► about Facebook and Apple stealing talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► from each other and maybe because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► don't really pay attention but I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► you one thing seems like both those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► places i can't imagine that anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► works for one would want to work for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► other in either direction like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► think they're competing for the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► yeah I thought I've never really heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► that either I mean obviously at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► certain level there's probably some like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► maybe it like a sysadmin or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► like that but and you know what there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► was that one team at Facebook that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► largely poached from apple but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► they're all dispersed right they're gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► the mic designer the EAA bought a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► of designer for a while and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► slowly eroded their sanity until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► all quit right and they built a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► apple-like beautiful system and custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► tools to support it with facebook paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► the weather was just paper facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► what are the names they stole it I fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► well but you know I mean that it's if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► that's a tough call because the paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► app was the other paper at the one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► you drawn was their first but it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► yeah regular and a plain words your apt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► name you know it seemed like for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► they're like Facebook was just gobbling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► up as much design talent is there food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► at about the same time that Google was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► gobbling up as much email town as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► could and it seems like both of those of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► your kind of fizzled and faded over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► last year so I haven't heard anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► about them recently i think in broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► terms what happened was that there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► period where Zuckerberg I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► coincides with because you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► there's one thing i don't i don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► facebook I've never signed up for it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► so i'm not i get it does feel foreign to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► me feel like studying a foreign country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► but from my observations it is clear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► did I don't think too many questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► that Zuckerberg has a tremendous gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► people often said that about Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► Tim Cook is often money talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► working with steve jobs like usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► just talks about him on a personal level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► but if you can get i'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► working his you know tim cook it tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► stories about is absolutely amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► ability to change his mind and but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► you know the Steve Jobs style is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► when he comes in with his mind change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► the axis who is this is opinion online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► and I think Bill Gates had some of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► too right like what Bill Gates famously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► that like Microsoft was building this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► early nineties strategy to sort of do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► their own custom stuff for connecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► computers to each other and then all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► a sudden you know gates writes like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► 10-page manifester that we've got to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► on this internet thing and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► sudden you know I mean how long did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► take for for explorer2 to decimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► yeah but at the same time to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► active desktop so i don't think i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► never noticed I'm not saying that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► seamlessly executed I'm just saying he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► yeah it it's you know the and the broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► strokes facebook was a website it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► website you went to he did all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► and an awful lot of products that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► popular websites in 2007 in the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► era just were nowhere did weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► getting the engagement that things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► could be done as a native app got and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► yeah i mean not to go too far off into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► the weeds but one reason is that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► awful lot of web sites were built I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► don't think this is true anymore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► mobile is don't think anybody overlooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► it but that the back end of the website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► was inextricably tied to the front end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► of the website and instead of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► everything go through nice API is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► the front end of the website so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► could make clients for other devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► like a native mac client or and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► people say i forgot i only native mac or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► windows client will just go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► web browser and for a lot of things for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► a lot of years that was fine but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► with the phone that wasn't good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2098">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► and facebook had an app that was largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► just front end for HTML and JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► and then they seem to get it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► uniform Zuckerberg on down that no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► should do this is with as much negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► stuff as we can we should this app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► this is more important than our website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► and that's around when he hired all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► those designers and I think there's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► of a I think there was sort of a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► Apple's you know apples the company to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► look at they they value a + design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► and then I think in the intervening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► years the facebook realized that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► wasn't really that important to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► that the native part was ya design and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► caliber wasn't or rather I think it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► seemed like there was a lot of trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► like they were able to get the talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► but just you know by applying sheer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► force of will and lots of money they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► want to get the town but then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► question is what do you have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► great all these incredibly talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► people do at Facebook and that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► seemed like they had a hard time having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► a good answer to that question and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► maintaining that over time but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► now it's hard to keep good people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► interested in working for a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► established product you know the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► has this problem to its really like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► you have something that's big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► successful and boring like Facebook or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► the iphone it's hard to get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► interested in working on that who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► same kind of people who would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► something like that because they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► I know Mike Maddux a little bit but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► haven't spoken to him much since he left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► facebook so I you know and I'm just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► of speculating here but i know from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► couple of people on the team that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► were used to being the a-team at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► company you know like Maddox was what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► think I know he designed a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► of stuff in the original iphone but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► I think he literally did like the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► pixels for the slide to unlock you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► like that's you know that that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► and if you're like the person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► designs both the visuals and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► interaction for a thing doing slide to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► unlock is pretty pretty big because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► mean I remember Steve Jobs actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2217">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► demoed it like three times he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► that's what I'm going to do it again he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► like lock the phone and did it yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► like that when you designing the feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► that Steve Jobs decides I'm just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► to do this three or four times on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► because it's that I just love it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► and then to go to at Facebook and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► not designing you're not designing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► app that's in front of a billion users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► you're designing the app that's in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► of like one-tenth of 1% of the users who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► care more about how things look than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► the regular facebook experience and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► just think it's hard to get excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► yeah I'll take a break let's take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► break and thank our first sponsor good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► friends at audible you guys no audible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► articles where you go to get just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► audio related i used to think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► place to go to get audio books and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► true they have more audio books then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► anybody but they have so much more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► audiobooks now you go there you sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► for an account and you can get all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► of stuff they have news daily news shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► they have comedy shows all of this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► and a lot of this stuff is original to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► audible if you want to listen to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► listen to audiobooks from virtually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► they have a great listen guarantee so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► listening to it and it's like putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2298">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► you to sleep you could just like get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► different book like that's how confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► they are you just you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► get bored you're just going to fill up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► your every minute where you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► listen to something to not be bored you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► audible and I've always said i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► this is one of the greatest advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► opportunities ever why do they sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► podcast because they know that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► who's listening to me tell you about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► audible is somebody who listens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► spoken word content by definition so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► you're listening to this and you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► like you've got gaps in your your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► life where you need more podcasts or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► things like podcast go to audible sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► up go to audible.com / talk show know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2338">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► that just talk show and no no you came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► here and you get a 3 30 day trial 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► days we can just listen to whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► audible.com / talk show i think i wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► that script and maybe I was telling i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► forget i was talking to did I forgot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► was on air or not but bill simmons i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► I've been listening to him over to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► football season I was listening he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► doesn't sports thing it doesn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► thank you very popular you probably see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► it's probably pretty high up in overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► i'll be interesting to see if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► actually all that high up in overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► because maybe overcast excuse towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► non-sports stuff maybe like sports stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► I don't know maybe in our simulated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► does go into it does pretty well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► overcast it is not as high as text shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► and like they're really popular you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► npr-style storytelling shows like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► american life though I think it's ben [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2398">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► thompson who were talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► forget it was on the show off but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► gist of it is that when on Bill Simmons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► first started doing sponsors reads on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► his show he was awful at it as was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► like when I first split off and started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► doing this show on my own just brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► I mean like maybe the show's over who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► maybe they were ok but the the sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► you just don't know why it's hard it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► hard thing to do you get the hang of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► eventually took you eight maybe a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► yeah but it's but Simmons is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► Simmons is actually taking it to a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► level he was i think i would venture to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► beginning and now he's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► he's he's like in howard stern territory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► of being able to do it because sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► when i was in the stern anymore almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► seems like Western does one that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► he does the reed he's he's phoning it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► whereas Simmons does it and he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► real tight script and it seems like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► trying to literally stick it to 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► seconds get in and out and he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► starts talking faster and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► alleviate it does just like completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► eliminate any urge I have to skip it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► I tend not to sting I tend not to skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► ahead on sponsor reads on podcast simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► because I you know I know some people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► and if you do you know that that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► the features there it's okay to my job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► to try to make it as interesting we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► you and I have talked about this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► it's my job to try to make it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► interesting that you don't want to skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► but when i listen to podcast i tend not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► to skip because i want to listen I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► curious edit at a professional level how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► yeah I often will listen to other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► who are doing research for the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► sponsors that i have just to keep me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► here like how are you doing this read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► and then like maybe maybe something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► can learn do better in my reach for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► same people from the way you're doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► read yeah so what else we got a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► talk about we gotta hurry up we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► really good at that is so we got to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► at WWDC moving its the school I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► don't know anyone san jose so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2517">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► really talked a little bit about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► I was so completely surprised by this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► I really is this just wasn't even on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► radar but I kind of ever you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► happened it was an initial shock and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► thought oh shit when we gonna do about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► my live show you know of course my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► thoughts turned myself immediately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► everyone else did you ever else is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► oh how can I fly there is our hotels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► expensive everyone's thinking the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► general stuff you know that most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► aren't thinking where can i push my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► podcast but it just never occurred to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► that they would do this though like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► it s the rough thinking was and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► all had this you know people who go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► san Francisco's not great the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► particular I mean our parts of San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► Francisco that are absolutely gorgeous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► but South of Market where moscone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► it's not great I don't hate it some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► people really hated some people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► it is what it is but it is sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► touristy hoteli and maybe towards these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► wrong but it'sit's kind of the worst of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► but the area that we see when we go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► everybody see is that is a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► now and then it's not too far from union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► square though in union square is nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► but union square is just high end retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► it's not you know i mean like what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► supposed to do go shopping for jewelry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► and stuff like that in its it's ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► it is what it is but the fact is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► Apple we know we table what could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► do different well there's no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► facility with 5,000 people and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► you know we would just say well used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► be in san jose but they moved out of san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► jose for a reason and there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► else and they're not going to go further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► away because it's already a major stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► on Apple to get a thousand engineers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► know from the south bay area to san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► francisco for labs and to just hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► and do stuff and still get work done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► I for one had just completely but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► overlooked to the well they could move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► back to San Jose angle for years it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► never really i never even really gave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► serious thought but then once they set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► I could totally see the logic of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► it seems like a very apple-like move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► I mean really it makes a ton of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► logistically to me not only as a closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► to them but like San Francisco is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► dense competitive very expensive city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► there's a reason why you don't see a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► of tech conferences in manhattan right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:24 ◼ ► it's because if you put on a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2664">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► conference in manhattan the space that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► extraordinarily expensive all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► logistics getting the food and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► getting it love all the equipment that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► all going to be shortened expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► then for the attendees they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► have to pay ridiculous hotel prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► because they're going to this major city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► that is itself a massive tourist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► destination and so it's very unappealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► to hold a major conference in new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► city unless it really needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► specifically in new york city for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► yeah so everybody see could be anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► like for the attend as far as far as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► attendees are concerned it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► matter where it is you're going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► talks and labs and stuff and that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► be in any conference center any city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► America it doesn't have to eat you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► the extreme premium and dealing with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► the all the logistical challenges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► downsides of being in a massive tourist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► expensive dense City yeah just to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► watch some some talks and go to laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► and either you already have friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► colleagues who you will also be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► and you'll see right and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► matter where you are or even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► don't even if you're like a first-timer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► if you're you're new you're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► surrounded by like-minded individuals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► and it's not hard to make friends or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► even even just temporary friends while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► while sitting at a bar or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► that you're very you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► they're talking about Xcode and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► sudden you know you're not bored right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► mean like if anything the city's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► wasted on you because if you're if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► you're attending the conference you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► don't really have time to go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► explore much of the city like you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► the most part you're getting your waking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► up you're trying to get to the 9am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► session in the morning you're you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► sessions and stuff all day you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► have a little hour for lunch but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► and then you back and then like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► o'clock rolls around you want to like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► to the hotel bar with your friends have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► a couple of drinks and like that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► you know we go to dinner and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► night like you can do that anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► you're not seeing the whole city again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► it doesn't really make sense i mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► like one of my favorite conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► venues I've ever been to is is where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► has been held the last couple years in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► Killarney Ireland in this hotel called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► the europe and it's like it's this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► very remote location and the hotel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► itself you been you know that have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► been there actually I don't think so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► don't because you missed the yeah anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► it's awesome contemporary know they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► been at the same 1i was at one was at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► remote location but i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► they've switched to a different remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► location the I this this is I i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► this is the third one they're about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► do next month I'm going i recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► anyway so it's you know it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► this one giant hotel venue kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► middle of nowhere it's beautiful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► like you're all kind of self and close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► they're either either is I mean there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► a nearby city of Killarney but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► don't really because you totally have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► go there like you're all on premises and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► you're surrounded by all the people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► are there for your event and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► there is there is no time to go out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► other city like that's what you're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► for you're there you're there to hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► out with those people and see those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:31 ◼ ► talks and do those events so to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2851">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► conference in a massive see that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► paying a big premium to be in doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► I love Ireland I remembered with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► last time i was there are and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► a band member and their lead singer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► there this year and there's a lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► singer named patty PA di I've never been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► there but it on on the same time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► you were there i don't think so either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► so patty was there and he was the lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► singer of this band and he had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► interesting and I had no connection to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► like Apple related stuff but he came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► to the pub in you know in the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► without leaving the building is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► like a compound he came up and was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► to have a drink or two and he just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► know he's gregarious you know showbiz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► performer but you know but very nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:17 ◼ ► it quickly struck up conversations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2897">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► all sorts of people and he was having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► good time and and and never laughed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► then it like midnight that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► doing last call and everybody's like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► and we're going to do everybody want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► stay up a little bit later and Patty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► went up to the bartender and just hit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► off you know wasn't like whisper in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► ear but he just like spend about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► minutes talking to him and the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► thing you know the bartenders like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► slapping on the back and the bartender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► that's awesome I've never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► anything like that in my life like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► the staff of the place i can he got you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► know it like called / you know he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► like make it unilaterally called of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► another bartender was just like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:55 ◼ ► you know these guys want to keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2935">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► to do you know how about we do two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► why do you think WBC moved from san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► josé de San Francisco when I did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► think it was 2003 or 2000 for me i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► i was before my time III think some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► I think Jason had had was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► an upgrade about how like you know back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► then Apple really wanted to be like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► more the media spotlight with this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► that you know it's more prestigious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► go there it's like you know really only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► like yeah we're big were awesome kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► attracts more media attention being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► there but now the attention comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► them they don't they don't need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► that as much yeah I think that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► it was Steve Jobs i think steve jobs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► on all cylinders the ipod was slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► turning into a massive hit the retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► stores were slowly turning into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:49 ◼ ► success story they were it was that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2989">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► know the lat famously I know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:56 ◼ ► think Jason and and mikey went over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2996">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► that and the last one at San Jose was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/2998">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► the one where they had a funeral for mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► OS 9 which was actually kind of force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► like the reason they had its kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► think that's kind of you think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► weird thing to do is have a funeral on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► stage for your product but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► actually because it wasn't dead it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► because so many people were still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► mac OS 9 but it was at the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► they felt like they were in the clear it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► was three or four years into the guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► at least three years into the mac OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► the hero but they were at the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► where I think they could see the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► at the end of the tunnel that yes what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► we're going to make this transition all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► max will be running Mac os10 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► this isn't going to sink us the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► two years of mac OS 10 was kind of iffy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► really in terms of how big the uptake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► was so I think that after that one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► know the mac was clearly had a bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► retail is great i think steve jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► wanted a bigger spotlight and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► doing it already having like a hopeful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► funeral like we really hope this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► mature mature begging you please make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► this dead i remember that and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► before my time attending WWE sees but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► still had 22 max at my desk i had a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► i have added power mac 9600 that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► still running mac OS 9 as my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► machine and then I had a an ibook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► running OS 10 I'll see now I have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► with the keyboard i can use and one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► well so is what I think I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► moved to San Francisco for the publicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► I think that's exactly right that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► wanted more attention they felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► they need you know they could use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► they had stuff to say that stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► deserve more attention and now they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► don't and I don't think San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► was ever a good fit for Apple culturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► they're not a san francisco city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:46 ◼ ► yeah they're they're really they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3106">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► very different vibe about them than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► I mean again I've never ever worked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► apple and I live in San Francisco so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► it's hard for me to say this but just my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► my my kind of bird's eye view of it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► seem like they didn't really fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► there like there's no you in the travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► aside like because they're there when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► they moved to the new apple can open a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► new Apple their agency move because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► that's exactly my point but when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► opened a new apple campus to they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► leaving the apple campus the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► infinite loop campus they need what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► need all the space they can get and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► mean there might be some empty offices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► for a while but that you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► going to be back and forth between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► original apple campus and apple campus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► to on a daily basis so having them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► in cupertino is a big deal you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► they have new office space in san jose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► they have space a few other places in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► the south bay area but the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► getting between anywhere in the south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► bay is easier than getting from anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► in the south bay to San Francisco is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► big deal like there's no universe where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► Apple Campus to is a skyscraper with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► same square footage in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► it's not absolutely and and travel aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► even if part of it was like a tunnel dug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► by elon musk that could get you between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► even if you get between them in 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► minutes there's just no way they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► San Francisco is not an apple town in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► way that san jose i think is I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► forward to it because it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► really is like going to a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► conference now and you know WC i've i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► gone now for something like seven years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► something like that and I've enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► but i'm looking forward to something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► something fresh and you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► kind of more exciting now because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► it's going to be something a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► different i forget if I went 2006 so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► either want ten years in a row or nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► yeah it's one of my favorite things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► about covering apple is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► very predictable so if you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► approach them and analyze them in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► logical standpoint you can have success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► complacency right so they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► to like ping-pong around and move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► wcd random cities every year but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► they're not going to keep it in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3237">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► Francisco just because that's where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► been for ten years which will get one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► will get to when we talk about a iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► and ipad for form factors in the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► thing too is we you've heard and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► heard everybody's gone in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► has heard that from the long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► attendees who remember the San Jose or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► there's a reputation that downtown San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► Jose was kind of sleepy that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► restaurants and bars close early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► there's the quote-unquote nothing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► two things on that is one back then WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► didn't even sell out i don't i forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► when the first sellout was but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► think it was in san jose and the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► thing is that talking to a couple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► WWE are downtown San Jose has improved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► lot in the last 10 years that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► been a lot of oh I i just looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► first wwc the sellout was 2008 gee I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► wonder what happened 2008 that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► cause the first cell so up until two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► thousand eight even the first few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3298">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► at moscone you could like buy a ticket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► the day before deputy see I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► fact that this is obviously going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► sell out in that they're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► people in San Jose who don't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► tickets you know it's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► different five and the end a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► downtown San Jose is really improved a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► lot i was just talking to friends like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► friends really hard winter like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► don't really need much like it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► conference like you need a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► you eat good hotels that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► hopefully get for a reasonable price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► you need a hat you need a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► restaurants will get food at and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► need you know it's just a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► decent bars and bars motels and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► about it like you don't need tons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► tons of nightlife for a tech conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► it's actually better the bars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► generally empty but are willing to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► open late so you can ya take over down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► Rumple I was talking to about it now he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► needs familiar with the area now he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► to hockey games at the San Jose forget I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► don't know what the name of it is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► over the Sharks play which is only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► mile away from the convention center so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► it's you know by by city standards not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► far walk like that's the thing about san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► jose is all in one area it's not spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► out and he said like after hockey games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► you know 1030-11 there's all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► stuff to do bars to get beers and places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► to eat late and stuff like that so I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► yeah you're gonna go no matter what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► going yeah I actually it last year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► told myself you know what I'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► to get tickets anymore like I'm because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► i'm going to like fewer sessions I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► like you know it's I feel now that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► wasting a ticket because I i keep trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► to do more and more other things like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► keep getting double booked for time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► slots with meetings and social events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► and podcast event that everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► like you know i just i'm just going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► questioning that now it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► different like well maybe I should get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► ticket this yeah I don't know why but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► yeah i mean i'll go just to cover the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► keynote and then I have nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► announce but hopefully to do my live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► show again but the could always do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► and try to always do it on tuesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► evenings my question is how long to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► like I don't know if I'm gonna stay all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► yeah I I don't know it's a bit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► the thing is we don't know it is a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► new conference effectively so we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► know if you know if you if you say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► you plan to like you know going sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► and leave wednesday or so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► are you gonna regret that you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► stay until the cool things that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► going to happen on thursday night like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► you you don't know and that's why I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► kind of thinking like I just do my usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► like you know sunday through friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► afternoon things that you know it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► the worst that can happen to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► oh no no that's there are worse things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► in the world the Hat Yai don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► what a surprise us that came out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► what the day after ATP last week's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► guys didn't get you haven't talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3477">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► I think the gist of it and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► think everybody started wrapping their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► heads around it is i think Apple Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► can spend the money on surrounding stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► around the Convention Center and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► number of people that will be there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► attendance is not going up but it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► if it's just 5,000 plus a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► thousand of people who you know come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► or out of a couple thousand combat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► 4,000 people come just to be there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► simultaneous with it and then cut the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► other factor is combined with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► south bay companies whose employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► might come after work when they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► Francisco i think it's i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► going to feel like apples taken over san [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:38 ◼ ► yeah my main concern is if I don't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3518">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► conference ticket will I not be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► get into major events that i will then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► ya know like that that's that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► like my one my one concern of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► know it should i go anyway or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► because I in San Francisco there was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► much to do everywhere that whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► had a WTC badge but didn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► for anything except for the beer bash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► that was the only thing where were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► really mattered whether you have it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► not but all the other events that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► conference were for anybody and I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► that's gonna keep being the case but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► don't know yet and I think it'll be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► I do i do think here's my theory might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3559">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► one of my theories is that they'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► the bash on campus at apple campus too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► because i think that would be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► I maybe by junior will be on and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► yeah I don't know or maybe they'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► it back at infinite loop I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► that's what they used to do is it big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► enough because the care of their big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► enough to hold today's everybody see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► yeah i don't know i mean the new the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► courtyard certainly is like your buena [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► felt crowded and that that's a big yard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► yeah but if you speak you know it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► crowded by the stage but yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► no it was empty by the stage setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3597">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► no it was empty by the stage setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► I guess you're right it was very crowded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► as for the further back you got from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► stage the craft more crack about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► because none of the dirt none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► Nerds the conference ever wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► near the band I want to talk to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► other you can hear I can't hear let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► it's the worst gig for a band of ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► play some of them that success its iight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► so bad for them every year just take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► godlike he thought your plane to a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► of nerds backs you were like plugging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► their ears with their don't want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► oh it's terrible alright let's just uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► that's shift gears to there's supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► a march apple event and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► do iPads new ipads possibly a a 128 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► gigabyte upgrade to the iphone SE and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► what else a new red color for the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► SE or maybe a new red color for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► iphones I think the rumor was a new red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► color for the main iphone 7 lino maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► which is kind of odd to do halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► through a cycle but I mean who knows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► know it again like this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► thing where like if we look back and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► well Apple never does that you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► have the iphone makes a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► apples and evolving company that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► can do whatever they want and they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► you know if they think there's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► reason to do something like those they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:14 ◼ ► would do it so i think one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3674">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► interesting things is that just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► everything we know about or have heard I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► should say we know but every just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► all the rumors we have about upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► apple products all come from ming-chi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► kuo the analyst at KGI securities but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► you certainly seems like he has the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► info the earliest right like gurman has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► had some stories at Bloomberg but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► hasn't really been a lot like an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► TV thing recently but it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► just for k coming to apple TV in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► of like iPads and iPhones he hasn't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► a lot recently it seems like it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► coming from being chi kuo also it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► like German sources or maybe more in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► mac area maybe because he seems to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► more mac info and makes you quote seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► to have more iOS supply chain info [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► it's all supply chain info I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► she quite as any to any sources at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► cupertino I really don't and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► what he gets wrong is from not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► those sources but that he has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► seemingly like drinking buddy status was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► some foxconn executive it's but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► interesting because it just yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► i'm looking at the date Mack kodikara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► the Japanese rumor site who has a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► good track record to ya didn't I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► i'll put a link in the show notes to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► one but i'll put the macrumors version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► because it's an English what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:37 ◼ ► saying is a much like KGI ming-chi kuo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3757">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► the new 9.7 and 12.9 inch iPad pros so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► take the ipad pros we already have new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► ones a bizarre to me rumor of a 10.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► inch iPad which basically has the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► footprint as the 9.7 inch as we know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► but with an edge-to-edge display so get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:04 ◼ ► rid of the bezels at the top and bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3784">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► so it has a 10.5 inch diagonal display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► because it gets rid of the bezels now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► the reason i call that bizarre getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► rid of bezel sounds like something Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► would do but the reason that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► bizarre to me is that all these rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► say that it's going to come alongside a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► new 9.7 inch iPad pro like to me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► would make the it what both makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► and fits the historical pattern is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► they're going to do that introduced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► as the new high-end model at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► footprint and put the ipad the 9.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► iPad pro at a- hundred-dollar minus two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► hundred dollar price point lower down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► the chain but there's an awful lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► all these rumors say that are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► do both and now Mac a car yesterday says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► there's also going to be a 7.9 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► pro so in other words an ipad pro mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► yeah what should be the first place too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► yeah but i think that they've done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► before I've i think if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► updates to the money that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► yeah i mean so you know lets you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► easy things first the 7.9 inch iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► many that makes a lot of sense and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► not because last year specs right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► what I would think is gonna have its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► probably probably has the specs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:21 ◼ ► current 9.7 pro which is now a year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3861">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► you know it apple doesn't need to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► you know save the pro name only for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► higher-end products because pro means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► they can sell a hundred our pencil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► artificial our keyboard yeah with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► things so they they love spreading pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► I wonder what it and I mean a keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► that would fit i have an ipad mini in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► front of me right now that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► cramped keyboard I i use like a logitech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► one once a long time ago and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► was nearly impossible to use it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► tough like the 9.7 size allows for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► just barely usable keyboard case on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► but the point is that stuff they mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► they do exist and I guess somebody buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► them but that's that's certainly not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► good keyboard but anyway so that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► sense so between 9.7 10.5 you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► there's there are these kind of similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► rumors that will probably get too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► although with the whole iphone 7 7's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► eighth-inning also simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► released in the fall and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► basically being like the iphone quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► eight would be this similar bezel list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► you know larger screen smaller case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► higher-priced model so that's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► know if they're gonna do that for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► iphone line whatever their reasons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► for doing it there they had maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► you know they finally got their edge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► edge design and technology lineup they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:42 ◼ ► can finally do this whatever excited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3942">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► do this but it costs more to do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:45 ◼ ► various reasons or whatever else or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3945">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► just wanted you know they want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► premium product as they want to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► you know if if people are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► treating their phones and their iPads as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► computers both in what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► with them and in their replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► cycles then Apple probably wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► boost those prices up a little bit well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► you're only going to buy a new phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:06 ◼ ► every three years ago I had every five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3966">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► and you're treated like used to treat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► your 2000 our laptop well if we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► you paid a lot of hundred bucks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:14 ◼ ► that's that's better for us and we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3974">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► give you higher and specs and higher and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► you know more storage and fancier screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► technology and also stuff so it makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► lot of sense why they would have higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► price ones at all and it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► possible with modern apple that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► would also keep making lower end ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► that you know rather because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► apple releases new things like this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► iOS devices new form factors one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► ways that they can release these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4002">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► they have in the past is you release the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► new thing at the old price point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► push everything down a hundred bucks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► other way you do it is you leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► everything at the same price point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► that's a hundred bucks more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► homeless because the new ones higher-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► so that's what I see them probably doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► that's probably what the 10.5 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► and the quote iphone 8 with this weird a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► display both of those are probably that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► ladder kind of product where they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:09 ◼ ► probably coming to an existing lineup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4029">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► that itself doesn't really change or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:12 ◼ ► changes only a minor ways and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► command a higher price points with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► premium stuff now so i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► it's almost like you have to because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► pattern is the same that there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► to be new models in the old form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► and this amazing edge-to-edge you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► blow away design without the bezels it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:31 ◼ ► the same story for the ipad in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4051">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► iphone so we might as well talk just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► forestall the blow away thing as a verb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► i might have allergies or it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► it was an agitated to do I might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► big-league that's a big league design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► that was bigley know your type know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► everybody says that they were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► Trump uses big league as an adjective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► and he's it doesn't make any sense to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► say typically it wouldn't eat has big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► leak and but having comes out I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► think not making sense is necessarily a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► pourrait yea big league big lead do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► for ya but big league is what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► saying trust me today to get your gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► have these blowing designs forced all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► right you've got you can even see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► when the White House transcribes remarks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► it's it's big-league it's gonna be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► league design ensures auto correcting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► for the update I you know I mean what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► it's the same story but to me it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► more sense with the iphone than the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► and so the story with the iphone is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► there would be what a presumably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► called or at least described i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► again we can't marketing names of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► hardest thing to know for sure because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► they're the tightest held secrets but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► sounds like they're going to do the 7s & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► 7 S Plus exactly like you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► where it's the same form factor close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► enough like down to like the tenth of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► millimeter where you can probably use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► presumably like an better camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► maybe like a next-generation a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► cpu you know everything you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► exactly what you think in the 707s would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► be and then also this new iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► I don't know I i if this is anything if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► I don't think there's any chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► they call this new iphone the iphone 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► there's just no way I think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► would call it the iphone pro because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► think that's the only way that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► have a reasonable amount of excitement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► for the new 7 s and 70 s plus and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► this new phone like it doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► sense to me to have an iphone 8 and 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► 7's in the same year like why not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► because who wouldn't just by the eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:54 ◼ ► but well it's gonna be expensive right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4194">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► it's the part of making are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► rumors that seems like a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► dollars which like if you actually look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► at like the the full price of iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► that is not that ridiculous it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► hundred fifty bucks more than just then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► a similar respect plus model would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► right life in a suit if you assume that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► it probably starts at 128 or 256 right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► likely probably does a the 256 no rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► came out today that is going to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► two models 64 and 256 really so god i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► would guess like it might be like toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► 1049 464 and 1149 first 256 at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► it's only you but the idea would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► slaughtered in at a new higher price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► point that the 7s & 7 S Plus would take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► the existing price points and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► they're actually instead of going lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► they're actually going more upscale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► and that was a very apple-like thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► do yeah it makes sense on a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► levels i mean you know the cynical take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► is of course they're gonna make a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► more money because the ASP is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► go up on their most profitable products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4256">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► and I like that's like that's a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► performance on Wall Street center ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► also there there's good reasons for also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► like you know one of them is they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► afford to put higher price parts in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► one so you could you could have like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► know something that maybe maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► couldn't afford you know parts price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► wise to put in all the iphones for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► year because that's a lot of phones then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► they can have it in this model for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► people who want to pay another couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► hundred bucks and then also it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► if the rumors are true that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► doing this crazy edge screen thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► I I think it's pretty clearly going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► be oled colloids are at this scale like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► possibly they're having production yield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► problems with the type and quality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► and whatever they're making and so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► they can't make like 80 million of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► a quarter whatever the number is so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► have to have like a mainstream iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► for this coming year that isn't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► crazy new screen but they also want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► have this creation screen in whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► quantity they could make for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► are going to pay for it and it lets them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► innovation crown going it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► because it's it's okay it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► wonderful like showpiece at the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► the line even if like sixty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► no I i think though if they do this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► has to be in sufficient quantity that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► they can meet demand as well as they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► met it in recent years with whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► new top-of-the-line is because I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► ton of people are going to want this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► this crate if this exact rumor comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► I don't know if it's forty percent but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► it's going to be some it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► be like just a sliver like there's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► be an awful lot of people who for extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► hundred or two hundred dollars or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► three hundred dollars are going to say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► want the new hotness and yeah if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► like if I i could see this really i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► think it's a risk if they if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► really going to do this and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► idea you know if you're if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► complaining about apples they don't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► here's your story because of the risk i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► see happening is if they make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► announcement and forty percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► everybody who wants to buy a new iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► in September wants this one and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► instantly backordered three months or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► instantly it will be none of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► people are then going to say oh cancel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► my order i'll get the 7s nobody's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► do that there are going to say alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► i'll wait i could so I could what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► could see happening if they can't meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► demand at least as well as they've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► in recent years like with this to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► like in the quarter they just reported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► if they can't meet demand for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► iphone pro as well as they did for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► seven and seven plus three months ago in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► what turned out to be the best selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► iphone quarter ever then I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► in real trouble because nobody everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► is waiting for it is not going to settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► year-over-year it's going to look bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:52 ◼ ► because they're going to take a big hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4432">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► it'll even out eventually because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► eventually it's not just people waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► for the iphone pro going to switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► android they'll wait till January [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► February or march or however long it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► takes to get it but it's going to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► quarter-over-quarter demand so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► that the idea i've seen people say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► they'll do this and it's sort of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► like a like the 20th anniversary Mac you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► know it's like a it's like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► thing at the at the fringe for just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► handful of you know people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► willing to spend a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► I don't think that's the case at all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► think this would be this might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► best selling phone they come out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► next year and i happen to know I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► anecdotally I see lots of people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► Twitter the people who really care and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► we dive gone on this long you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► that that the iphone 7 looking so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► like an iphone 6 and success that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► can't see why people are so obsessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► with the exterior of the phone but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► true that an awful lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► that they're not even getting into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► know what the camera does how good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► screen looks how good the touch sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4498">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► is how good the virtual the new virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:02 ◼ ► and all the other things that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4502">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► about it there's an awful lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► and you see it and all the tech reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► you certainly see it most of the gadget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► reviews that it's a guy looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► old iphone math there's an awful lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► people who think like that who have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► waiting for years for you know screwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► us i'll hold on to my old phone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► another year because I know Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► going to come out with a new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► eventually yeah i mean it matters it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► matters a lot and I think you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► again i think a lot of people are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► to want this new thing I mean I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► think we've shown that as customers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► no matter what the new iphone is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► matter how happy we are or aren't with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► it it you know in our social media posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► and tech reviews and everything we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► want it and we're all gonna buy it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► we're all gonna pay whatever it costs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► yeah but they're gonna know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► thing is real it unless it unless it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► some obscene downside which it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:54 ◼ ► won't and again an extra hundred fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4554">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► bucks is probably not enough of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4556">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► downside for enough people then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► gonna sell this thing like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► just gonna sell as many as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► possibly make it really i really wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► how why people would buy the 7s and 7's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4568">TS</a>]
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01:16:14 ◼ ► keep selling the seven and seven plus at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4574">TS</a>]
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01:16:28 ◼ ► get the 7s yeah that's a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4588">TS</a>]
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01:18:02 ◼ ► all of a sudden you're playing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4682">TS</a>]
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01:18:05 ◼ ► work to have like a second device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► connects to the first device and somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► extends the same network so that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:13 ◼ ► you're just open your device it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4693">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► like the same network whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► upstairs or downstairs or whatever hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4697">TS</a>]
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01:18:45 ◼ ► design you can put them anywhere in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► house i can't if you have a Wi-Fi router [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4727">TS</a>]
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01:18:53 ◼ ► looking in smaller device they recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4733">TS</a>]
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01:19:01 ◼ ► give you a recommendation on that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► buy for and you really only need three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4742">TS</a>]
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01:19:07 ◼ ► whole thing through a nice really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4747">TS</a>]
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01:19:11 ◼ ► some weird website on the router at at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4751">TS</a>]
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01:19:23 ◼ ► you know setting up the way you want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► to be you want to have a guest network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► you'd say give me a guest network then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► your network as a guest network that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► it you're done really really great I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► got one here i've set it up i replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4772">TS</a>]
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01:19:46 ◼ ► speeds are getting from your cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4786">TS</a>]
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01:20:01 ◼ ► 30 seconds you're talking to an expert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► where do you go to find out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► ez-go 20 calm / the talkshow go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4805">TS</a>]
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01:20:14 ◼ ► something nice I think you get expedited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► yeah that's pretty sure that's it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► we expedited shipping and hero.com so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► use that code the talk show what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► talking with your code party ATP I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4824">TS</a>]
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01:20:38 ◼ ► think that this middle ipad that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► have a bezel I don't think that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► the same cachet that that this rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4843">TS</a>]
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01:20:54 ◼ ► cool-looking ipad no I don't think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4854">TS</a>]
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01:21:01 ◼ ► approach that Apple has taken in recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4861">TS</a>]
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01:21:08 ◼ ► it's not performing as well as you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► to or needed to so let's try a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4872">TS</a>]
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01:21:53 ◼ ► it's much easier to just let's try some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► new screen sizes and some new hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► abilities like that's actually easier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► do then like let's figure out file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► management iOS or Windows or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► like those are way harder and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► know and never lets fix the appstore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4926">TS</a>]
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01:22:15 ◼ ► more screen size or making you know one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4935">TS</a>]
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01:22:22 ◼ ► industrial design product except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► maybe the first one the first one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► quote-unquote they're making a tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► nobody knows it's gonna be thick is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► nobody knew you know what it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► to be like and then we saw it and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4960">TS</a>]
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01:22:44 ◼ ► wow this is really kind of cool to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► something with the touch latency of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► iphone on a big screen it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:51 ◼ ► was impressive but then every iteration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4971">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► since then has been very iterative to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► mind like there's never been one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► generation where you're like whoa it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► with the possible exception of the move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► from non-retina retina but even then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► it's not really the the way it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► you know like but the rumors about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► iphone pro or iphone 8 or everyone call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► it or that it's going to look like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► what is that before you even turn it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► it doesn't seem you know that was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► really the case with with iPads I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► that current iPads looking off a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► like the original 1i mean the backs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► flat now and the bezel on the side is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:33 ◼ ► our but like the top and bottom bezel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5013">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► almost exactly the same i think what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► it you know it's a combination of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► like trying to figure like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► else can we try here to to turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► the sales curve and 22 let this product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► and then also just like the ipad I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► don't think it's about flashing I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► think this is actually just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► utility the ipad it really struggles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► between how much screen size you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:01 ◼ ► versus how nice it is to use it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5041">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► really this incredibly you know polar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► opposite relationship where like it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► you want to get anything more done on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:12 ◼ ► browsing the web and watching video you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5052">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► really want more screen space like it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► you try multitasking at all the 9.7 can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► do it but it's it's you know it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► tight and it and the people who look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► community who are big Pro ipad users who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► do get a lot of their work on ipads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► almost always prefer the 12.9 now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► getting like quote work done because has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► more screen space but you know anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► who's ever used to use 12.9 and can can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► tell you like it's pretty big too like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► for an ipad like for a laptop it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► nice and small but for an ipad the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► you use and hold an ipad it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► quite large and so it adding that screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► space to get the 12.9 it and its ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► to have multitasking be better and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► get more work done more effectively has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► come at a great cost of this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► unwieldy size for hand-holding and ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► use that's why I think a lot of typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► on users use like you know keyboards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► stuff for its kind of more like a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► properly on the table more of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► because if you actually like using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► like one-handed like you know one hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► to hold it in the other hand to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► touch it or use the pencil like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► pretty big ipad to do that with its kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► of awkward it's kind of unwieldy so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► this 10-point whatever I think is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► attempt to cram that screen resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► into the smaller body which for ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► power users and I guess we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► any of those there are but for ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► power users that sounds incredible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► sounds like exactly what so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► I want an ipad that is that is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► small enough to feel and handle like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:56 ◼ ► iPad and that means 9.7 roughly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5156">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► green space so i could better multitask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► and get more of my work done on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► efficiently on this device and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► speculation i think is that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► pixel resolution is set up being it 266 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► pixels-per-inch it's going to be 3 26 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► which is the pixel resolution of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► retina mini and the iphone and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► iphone that seems really small to me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► a device that you would hold at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► further away distance but maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► just my aging vision speaking I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► it's just it's just like the ipad mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► you know it's like it like if the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► you know that many just has like a 9.7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► resolution shrunk down it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:39 ◼ ► that same relationship so if the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5199">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► mini looks acceptable to you and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► use it without eyestrain then this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► it's just I'm so it's yeah it just seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► like a confusing decision though which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► you know like just probably gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► more expensive than the equivalent 9.7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► but it's probably like a hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5216">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► more at least so you know it's and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► like slightly cheaper than the 12.9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► version of it you know so who knows i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► mean it it will see what they do and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► think at this point it's very clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:09 ◼ ► Apple strategy with the ipad against kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5229">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► scattershot it's like let's just try a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► bunch of stuff and see what works and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► just give people tons and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► options you know the date will now sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► you an ipad at pretty much every hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► dollar price point from 250 on up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► like 1,100 and it's like that any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► these price points pick your price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► whatever you're going to pay for an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► we got one to sell you at exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► price point but a little bit more after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► accessories like the end and I think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► for what they're trying to do with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► ipad like I think it's very clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► again I I think they're they maybe don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► really know what will work and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► won't to boost sales or to carry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► platform forward so they are just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► a bunch of random stuff at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:53 ◼ ► and I'm sure I'm sure there's more that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5273">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► goes into it than that but it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► seems like they're taking a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► hardware risks here in order to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► cover more of the market in hopes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► people will want what they're now making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► without having to really dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► change iOS to be more pc like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► just seems really it just seems really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► curious to me that it would that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► bezel design would a debut alongside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► ipad pro want to you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:20 ◼ ► I'm glad I mean myself would understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5300">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► Eve but i think this is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► hallmark of team hooks Apple is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► know just it isn't it is not not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► different options out there I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► think that's Tim Cook I really don't I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► don't know I I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► thinking I think there's something we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► missing if this is true i just don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► it I don't know I do think have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► played around with the math there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► mac rumors had a report from each equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► on this new the iphone as i'm calling it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► the iphone pro as others are saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► iphone 8 which supposedly has a five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5335">TS</a>]
01:28:58 ◼ ► point eight inch oled display but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5338">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► the whole device and only 5.15 inches of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► it are really the sort of I've what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► think of as the iphone display now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► the rest is like the chin and presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► they'll be new features in the OS that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:16 ◼ ► ah but basically if you do the math and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5356">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► it's a device that's a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► aspect ratio than the iphone as we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► yeah it's too tall and skinny yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► basically a device that are the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► is as narrow as an iPhone se because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:38 ◼ ► it's an edge-to-edge display and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5378">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► actually put like an iPhone se or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► iphone 5 on top of a 4.7 inch iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► turn the screen on and then put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► like an iphone SE on top of it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► pretty much exactly the same with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► yeah i got this in here so it's a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:58 ◼ ► yeah it's device that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5398">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► narrower in hand than an iphone 7 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► know that a 4.7 inch it's more like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► SE in hand but it's as tall as an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► 7 in other words it's just almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► exactly the height and it's a device of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► the iphone with a 4.7 inch screen so as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:17 ◼ ► a piece of hardware in your hand not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5417">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► even turning it on it would be smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► than an iphone 7 about the same height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► but that the aspect ratio that kg is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► saying it instead of being 16 29 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► more like to point just like 2.15 21 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► it's more like a widescreen movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► anamorphic movie it's a lot wider it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► not just a little bit wider than 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► tonight it's it's a lot wider yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► mean that that's why i think the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► most likely explanation for this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► like there's some other key piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► information that we don't know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► about about how the screen is used how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► it shaped around the device you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► maybe like there's this like function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► area at the bottom where presumably some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► kind of like home button area will go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► maybe there's one of the top also which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► would slice off that other party aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► ratio and therefore make it look right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► who knows but these that this is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► into really nitty-gritty specifics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► I think we probably don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► information to really gauge you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► what's real here and what's not i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► it's it's so early and there's no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► there's no other information back this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► up besides KGI stuff which again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► KJ stuff has been good about a lot of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► lot of details about stuff especially I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► don't think on component type stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:42 ◼ ► right right but all this you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5502">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► this is saying is the panel resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► and there's lots of things that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► you know effect that being correct or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► not and and that being like how we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► of the screen shape on the phone or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► flexibility it allows you know not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► different shape things that allows like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► holes to be cut in panels and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► that in the you can do all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► crazy stuff with the letter so it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► be something weird that we don't that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► we can explain this yet with what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► know but it could be a much less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► interesting story then then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► oh it's going to be a new shape phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► you know it might just be it might look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► like what we have now in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► proportions and aspect ratios and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► have this weird implementation detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► about why the screen happens to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► certain resolution would you want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► be that tall do you think like what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► it but if it really is just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► as wide as a iphone 7 but tall no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► taller so like you see more messages in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► a list and mail if you're reading an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► article and seal more the article on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► screen at once but it is the exact same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► width as the designer of an app that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► to lay out a giant square in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► of its Now Playing screen that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► awesome but as a user of the phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► don't think I need that really i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► that's it i think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► advantages to the to the phone display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► being sixteen by nine one of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► when he turned sideways and shoot video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► you have the whole screen that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► right right I'm so there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► advantage to that a 60-mile allows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► to lay out a lot of different shapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► you know squares for my three mrs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► so-and-so it's i don't i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► really want the screen to be taller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► skinnier but who knows i mean i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► actually see it and use it well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► screen wouldn't be any skinnier and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► the numbers add up so he's saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► that this is his numbers for the pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► resolution 2436 hi this is for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► display area not the whole panel but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► part that would be used as a display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► area by 1125 wyd now 1125 wide is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► interesting because an iphone 7 and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► dive on 6's and the six the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► were 4.7 inches have a 375 point and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► 2x in its and pixels it's what is 375 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► it's 750 yeah and so if you take 375 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► guess what you get 1125 so basically its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► name is gonna have 3x it's exactly 3 X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► so it would be the exact same point for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► point size as the iphone 4.7 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► screens that we know except instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► being a 2x resolution it would be 3x and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► unlike the plus phones it would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► real 3x with no downsample what should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► mean that would look great as the plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► phones with their like you know render [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:39 ◼ ► 3x scale down to 1080p that already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5679">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► looks really nice like it isn't it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► a massive difference over 2x but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► don't look back look nicer and III can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► explain why i don't think i can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► see like the pixels for making it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► so you know to have it be true 3x and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► not even have two down sampling compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:03 ◼ ► to what we have now in the 4.7 inch line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5703">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► yeah i think that like 10 years ago or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► or prior the down sampling technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► even if it was technically a higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► resolution screen but if you downsampled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► it might look bad i think it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► would have but I think at this point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► pixels are so small that downsampling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► actually makes it look better so long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► the actual pictures of smaller but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► anyway this rumored phone would actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:26 ◼ ► be true 3x resolution which and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5726">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► that the numbers really add up makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:31 ◼ ► gives me makes me think that he's onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5731">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► yeah i think because like if these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► these are weird numbers to just make up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:40 ◼ ► or two like to misinterpret you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5740">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► like so that there is probably something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► here I think again the only question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► comes down to like how are these pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► actually allocated to the various screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► elements right and what does the app get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:54 ◼ ► what does the system get so many right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5754">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► exact the other last aspect of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:59 ◼ ► that it seems like nobody knows what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5759">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► hell is going on with touch ID seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► like some of this stuff is like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► touch ID must go away because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► display goes all the way to the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► so there's nowhere to put the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► sapphire button right or wrong I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► so too i don't think i and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► there's a way to integrate it into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► screen just put in the middle you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► and you know clearly the move away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► the physical button last year to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:26 ◼ ► virtual button that has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5786">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► feedback would play right into this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► then there's all these rumors also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► rumors that they're going to use a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► fancy new camera to face recognition or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► something like that I would be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► if they do that but I would be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► surprised if they did it in place of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► touch ID because I feel like touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► it's it seems like it's like a habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► people already have I don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► well I mean they again they could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► could try whatever they want especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► with all this weird high-end one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► already kind of like selecting for fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► buyers but but I I'm i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► unlikely i'm with you on that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► again we'll see what happens i mean we I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► think we all thought the headphone jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► okay yeah that's right he didn't I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► wait for him to get rid of my headphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► anyway that's the but I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► energy for that 280 yeah I had the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► whole face recognition thing I i I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► sure they wouldn't do it if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► couldn't do it really well right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► the same time fingerprint where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► first fingerprint sensor was was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► yeah and like when you compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► previous fingerprint sensors at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:36 ◼ ► they were all really awkward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5856">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► garbagey and Apple came out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► really good one and now they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► pretty you know they're all apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► yeah I you know people saying now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► they're like face recognition on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► samsung whatever whatever it was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► I think again like I don't see Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:53 ◼ ► doing this unless they could do really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5873">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► well so I wouldn't worry too much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► what these things have been like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5877">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► past other people but I still despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► saying that I still think it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► unlikely that this is what they have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5883">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► mind just because it it doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► like it would be better it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► yeah i guess the other thing too is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► when i first heard these rumors a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► months ago I was really really skeptical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► because it again same thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► ipad for it so on a typical for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:22 ◼ ► introduce two generations of new stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5902">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► at the same time write like that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► do this the 7s and sevens plus are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► totally going to get lost because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► are they're debuting his mid-range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► phones and that just hasn't happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► before and the other aspect is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► Apple has had so much success since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► iphone 6 by selling to size phones it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► really three sighs so if you count the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► SC which is obviously a support price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► hit I mean they've admitted yet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► underestimated demand for that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► multiple sizes of proven so popular why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► in the world would they come out with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► brand-new design at only one size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► but when you do all the math and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:03 ◼ ► it's actually a pretty good-sized to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5943">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► a one-size-fits-all because it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► know the usable display area is four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► point five point four or five inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:15 ◼ ► more than the 4.7 inch phone diagonally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5955">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► 8.35 inches less than 5.5 inch phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► yes it was right in the middle right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:25 ◼ ► the middle and the end errors a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5965">TS</a>]
01:39:28 ◼ ► yeah but physically in hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5968">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► narrower than the 4.7 inch phone which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► is to me the biggest factor of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► makes the iphone SE so so nice to hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► is that exam narrow so in terms of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► well you like something that fits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► your hand really securely and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► can go from side to side with your thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► and you like the fit more information on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► screen at once like an iphone 7 plus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► the last aspect to all these rumors is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► that it's supposedly going to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► iphone 7 plus caliber at least in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► general range battery as opposed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► 4.7 because that's the other factor i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► mean i know it i mean there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► people who just love the big phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► you and I both know people who have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► seven plus and they don't even like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► size but they do everything I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► you're even talking about it where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► battery life Allah is sometimes a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► enough to get it like I yeah it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► fit my pocket just too big to hold but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► could use it all day and still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► battery life at the end of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► although to be fair that was a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► true of the six versus six plus it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► been of the of the success or seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► generations like the gap is now smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► yeah and to the point where now like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► battery life on the seven is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► pretty decent and on the seven plus it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► is better but it's not better by as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► as it used to be in the previous ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► yeah it'sit's gotta say it's for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► the seven has the best battery life for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► me I think of any iphone I've ever had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► yeah me too the only time i ever get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► down in a red is on days when I somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► had been a circumstance where I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► even start the day with a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► which is rare because usually I sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► alright let me take another break here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► and thank our third and final sponsor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► the day do you think it's a guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► hmm Casper Squarespace however we gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► become I guess 1m going to squarespace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► up Casper ah Casper you guys know Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► the obsessively engineered mattress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► they sell it and shockingly fair price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► go to Casper com /d talk show and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► that code the talk show and you'll save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► 50 bucks towards any mattress insert x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► asterisk right there there's a footnote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► here's the different conditions to apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► Casper to me is it's it's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► design is making decisions and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► designed one perfect mattress you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► go to casper and select from like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► different types of mattress and then get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► the size you want now you just pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► size you want that's it and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► send it to you and it's one perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► mattress they've engineered they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► mattress engineers that's a real thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► they spent a lot of money in time to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► one mattress that's just is the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► combination of support of memory foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► and all sorts of other technology ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► to you in a little box it's about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► the size of like a little like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► little dorm room refrigerator or maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:32 ◼ ► little bigger than that but remarkably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6152">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► small for a big mattress you put in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► bedroom you open a box following their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► instructions it sucks all the air out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► the room to fill the mattress so you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► you get lightheaded when you do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► you'll get kind of get dizzy but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► fun to be in a room and it happens it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► makes a very cool sound and then boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► I say it all the time it's going to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► mattress store is gross because what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► want to do you want to sit on a bed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► all sorts of other people have come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► and sat on and later on and whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► laying honored mattress with bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► fluorescent lights and a mattress store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► doesn't stimulate sleep so the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► you can actually sit on a mattress in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► retail store it doesn't really give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► any better hint of whether you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► like the mattress you buy anyway so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► he just trusts Casper buy it but next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► time you need a mattress they give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► hundred knight home trial if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► love it they'll just give me a ring or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► go to the web site they'll pick it up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► your house and give you a full refund no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► questions asked no hard sell this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► like it's not like sending your cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► box back and cord-cutting where they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► seem like a Gestapo after you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► really keep you now they're just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► sorry you know here's your money back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► here's the asterisk they also sell a dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► matters and i keep hearing from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► who bought it for the daughter dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► yeah they have a dog mattress and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► very very popular people who've got if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► listeners are the show have gotten it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► love it but here's the deal you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► save the 50 bucks on it because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6236">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► like a lower-cost mattress and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:00 ◼ ► the gist of it is I got a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6240">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► emails from people who bought the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► mattress and then they said hey I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:04 ◼ ► wanted to say i love the mattress my dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6244">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► loves it but the 50 bucks code didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► i botched the first time they had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► dog matters so anyway go to Casper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► constantly talk show remember that code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► the talkshow state 50 bucks toward your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► mattress unless it's a dog mattress but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► you'll get 50 bucks the love from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► dog that will that will make up for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:21 ◼ ► oh yeah alright when we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6261">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► overcast overcast three point out just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► shipped yesterday and the update i knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► you were working on this but I somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► had no idea that it was that close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► shipping i think i was even on the beta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► was I on the patient yeah you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► definitely on the list I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► you actually ever installed it but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► were on the list i think i did i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► remember my overcast having the orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► I'd I never remember Denny I I'd I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► remember the switch the cards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► talking to you about it and i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► playing with the slide on the car this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:58 ◼ ► and.and you had it really when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6298">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► when i was in philly i showed you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► prototype and override you play without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► my phone what you thought hops in right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► we're in ops and yeah i was playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► my head and it was already did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► prototype was very very good i had very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► minor feedback but it was I could even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► I forget what i wrote today that i write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► this today i know i wrote a bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► the business model but then I write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► about how if you do casual user not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:23 ◼ ► paying attention isn't going to be even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6323">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► that's my two points is that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► great update because it all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► every single thing you documented on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:32 ◼ ► your blog about the changes i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6332">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► every single one of them it's like yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► totally agree this is better this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► better this is better but i think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► casual person who just wants to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► to podcast they they been if they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► like auto updates on they may not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► notice that but it's a new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► yeah it's it's odd because here I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► like you know really blessed in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► button and just changing all that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► lot of work going into these changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► overcast three and then at the end when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► it comes time to like you know right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6360">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► release notes and start like promoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► it to people and all right well what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► the list of new features and 31 out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► it's like uh i redesigned a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► there's like there's like a couple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► you features here and there but it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► there's a new watch app that's which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:21 ◼ ► actually does less the old one but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6381">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► way faster and that's about it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► the bullet point list of what is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► this update is incredibly short unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► you want to go through like itemized all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► the UI changes but nobody wants to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► that because nobody cares what you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:37 ◼ ► about is the whole thing like how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6397">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► the whole thing feels works for you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► everything else and there were tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► changes and tons of of time that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► into this that most of which is fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► subtle or hidden or is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► change that you notice the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► day use it and then it just becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► normal and you you immediately stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6417">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► noticing it exits that's how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► happens now and and you know and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► like you know the whole the card you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:06 ◼ ► took forever to get work at six so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6426">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► and and so much work and there and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► considerations with it like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:21 ◼ ► three-point appoint one update because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6441">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► i moved all of the like secondary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► screens in the app into these cards I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► the reusable controller that i can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:31 ◼ ► for anything now to put in one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6451">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► cards and the problem is that when a run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► iOS standard table view is in one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► these cards in certain modes the reorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► controls like the drag handles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► you're gonna tables and reordering mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► just don't work like it moves like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:50 ◼ ► know two pixels and stops and it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6470">TS</a>]
01:47:52 ◼ ► because it's in this card environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6472">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► and a few a few of the implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6474">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► details of that and so I had to asian or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:59 ◼ ► another day today that just moved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6479">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► playlist editor out of out of the cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:04 ◼ ► because I otherwise you can reorder the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6484">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► priority podcast setting it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► like and when I was developed there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► so many weird cases like this where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:12 ◼ ► some some part of the you i would fail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6492">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► in a weird way if it was moved to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:19 ◼ ► card thing and and so I had to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6499">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► try to figure out why it seemed like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► work around it or we implemented in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► different way so it wouldn't fail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► that's just that's just what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► this that car thing is just one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► changes and they were just so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► mean just so many so much time going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► into seemingly minor things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:39 ◼ ► even other things like the full-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6519">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► drag handles now on the playlist that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► not easy to do in uitableview know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► it's not a collection of you it is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► a table view and the way I did it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:54 ◼ ► such an incredible hack and that took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6534">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► long time to similarly like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► having like the teapot style where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► tap on the episode and a little row of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► buttons expands out from the bottom of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:07 ◼ ► it that you can then select actions from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6547">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► Oh a seemingly small thing in the UI but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:13 ◼ ► that takes a long time to implement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6553">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► to figure out how you have to abuse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► system frameworks to let them let you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► this like it's all like and you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► know from vesper stuff like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► implementation details of these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► tiny interactions are you I affordances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► that they make all the difference in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► world when you're using the app in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► how nice it is to use or how easy this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:36 ◼ ► team knows but like one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► little-little behaviors are little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► limitations might take you weeks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► develop that one little thing its it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► my opinion that the modern touch screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► you I that was that started with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► iphone is trickier and inherently more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► limited interaction model then the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► pointer interface that we've had since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► you know the mac and be you know go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► to the Xerox thing that was before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:18 ◼ ► mac in a lot of ways so just and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6618">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► that most people don't think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:24 ◼ ► you don't have to that you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6624">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► have to if you're not a designer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► when you are designer you suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► realize that you're you're limited in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:30 ◼ ► certain way and so for example like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6630">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► to say a list of things you have a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► of rows and you can drag them to reorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► it just all sorts of apps that do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:39 ◼ ► like this on a Mac you would think well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6639">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► I could just click on the row i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► move up and hold the mouse button down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► and drag up and that's exactly how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► do it you click on it and drag and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► don't have to click and wait you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► you could click and wait and then drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► immediately and it just works but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► can't do that on a touchscreen because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► if you're in a list and you just touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► and immediately move down or move up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► your scrolling the list because touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► on the list and move and moving your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► finger is how you do it so how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► take an item and move it up if you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► just touch on it and move up so it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:19 ◼ ► can have like a modifier he'll just hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6679">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► down command the end the truth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► there's a perfect solution with a mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► pointer which is just allow the user to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► click and drag on on touchscreens i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► could think that there's three ways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► Apple's usual way is to have an edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► button in the top-right that you tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► this edit button and then it switches it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► to a mode where there's like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► grippy strip over there and you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► that grip nice trip to drag things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:47 ◼ ► and down and if you touch on the grippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6707">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► strip and drag it won't scroll the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► the way Vesper did it and a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► apps to do is you tap and hold and after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► a brief and you know again this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6717">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► sort of thing where you sit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► you play with little fractions of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:02 ◼ ► second to see how long is too short how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6722">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► long is too long but you know your drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► you know you're moving it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:08 ◼ ► visually pops up off the screen and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6728">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► can see that it's sort of like raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► and then you're you're moving the item [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► up and down i like the solution you came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► with we just put the grips trips there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► all the time and so you can't scroll the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► list from over at the edge of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► yeah and most people don't scroll that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► far the edge anyway so it's fine because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► you know what I found like I i made this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► whole blog post about like and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► looking at this this blog post was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► release of overcast through and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► the announcement of overcast three but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► titled it design walkthrough because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► this really like this release really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► effectively a redesign you know not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► not like a hundred percent redesign a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► lot of things look kind of similar or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► redesigning than anything else in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:55 ◼ ► release and and it's because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6775">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► over the last couple years since I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► one point out like I've gotten literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► thousands of emails and tweets from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► people with feedback and some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► support questions this badly i've seen i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► basically had a lot of feedback to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► me all the ways in which the old design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► failed and by that but I mean like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► know people weren't able to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► features that they wanted to find they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► couldn't understand the way something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► worked or something caused errors two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► and people due to air honestly invoke it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► or things like that and so they were one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:33 ◼ ► of them one of the major themes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6813">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► learned over the last couple years is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► these built-in iOS standards things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► tapping edit in the top right corner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► then having a tableview switch its mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► where you can delete or reorder or batch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► operate on on things in a list or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► just swiping a table cell to delete it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► these things that you know we like power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► users have known literally since iOS 1.0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► introduced most of them most people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► use iphones these days don't know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► they'll never find that they don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► you can swipe on the table for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► reveal delete button right they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► they don't they never tap the edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:13 ◼ ► button in the corner and if they if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6853">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► do they quickly undo it because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6854">TS</a>]
01:54:16 ◼ ► don't really understand what it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6856">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► care so there's lots of like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:22 ◼ ► assumed knowledge of platform standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6862">TS</a>]
01:54:26 ◼ ► that i went into with this that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6866">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► a lot of iOS developer still do that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► reality is the customers don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► yeah i think that you can only really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► count on them finding what they can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► exactly right and if you can't if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► only way to do it is is a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► don't see you have to do something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► see it like slide the row they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:50 ◼ ► that's why you know if you look at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6890">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► app like I think it's super successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► app is an app like apples mail for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► iphone that's why there's a trash can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► when you're in a message for you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► also why why you can swipe on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► message in the list of messages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► yeah but that trashcan has to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► because asked me would be shocked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► find out that you can delete a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► any other way because like even you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► don't even like the edit button in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► corner that is visible but it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► obvious enough like what it does or why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► you like if you're in a list like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► does that even mean to edit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:25 ◼ ► corner of this entire last episode like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6925">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► what like a lot of people just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► think that way they don't they don't try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► to to poke everything and CEO what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► what is this weird word do that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► doesn't seem to specify anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► particular I hate to spring this on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:40 ◼ ► but alright i'm in all episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6940">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► there is an edit button up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► understand what it does i had it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► then it says done and it just toggles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► between edit and done but what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► do you actually have the latest version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► i think so because normal what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6957">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► supposed to happen is if you hit it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► you're supposed to get a little head on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► top that says edit play less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► one-half and delete playlist on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► other half and then all the rows turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► into the multi-select toggle dots on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► right maybe I don't have the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► I don't know I thought I updated to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► abstract version let me see if I make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► I mean you might have found a bug but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► might have our not supposed to work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► what about the so the other factor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► we talked about it and and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► things that let you do this and you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► I have had discussions about this over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► the years you know that going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► Vesper and and overcast and that ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► let's just give up the end of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:47 ◼ ► model for indeed software developers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7007">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► you free apps for you sell a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► let's say it's thirty dollars and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► you do version to point out and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► still sell it for thirty dollars but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7016">TS</a>]
01:56:58 ◼ ► give your existing users and upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7018">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► price maybe they get it for half off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► maybe they get the new version for 1499 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► maybe you sell it the upgrade for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► 999 but then the idea is you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► building users and the ones who stood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► keep using the app will every year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► however often you come out with a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► upgrade keep giving you upgrade money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► and that's what funds did continued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► eventually you stop getting it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► you you max out on new users and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► need to monetize your existing user base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:32 ◼ ► well there's no upgrades in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7052">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► store and so new models are called for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:43 ◼ ► interesting one because that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7063">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► downside to the old model and as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► everybody you know I still kind of wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► the appstore supported and allowed users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► the other developers the option of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► the downside to it is that everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► seems to agree that the way you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7075">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► most cases people would decide whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7078">TS</a>]
01:58:00 ◼ ► to buy the upgrade to the new app or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7080">TS</a>]
01:58:02 ◼ ► based on what are the new features and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7082">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► overcast three like when you say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► it's hard to say like here's all the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► features it may not sell as a paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► upgrade because we're just what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► just a modernized you know version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:22 ◼ ► to me this is the sort of thing I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7102">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► I'm glad to pay for because it's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:27 ◼ ► what i want a nap because like if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7107">TS</a>]
01:58:30 ◼ ► you do it the other way like wherewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7110">TS</a>]
01:58:32 ◼ ► you're dependent on that upgrade revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7112">TS</a>]
01:58:33 ◼ ► for new features ever release then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7113">TS</a>]
01:58:36 ◼ ► get microsoft office where you have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7116">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► there's there's all this pressure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:40 ◼ ► just add more and more and more features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7120">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► even if it kind of makes the app worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:45 ◼ ► to have more features added to it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7125">TS</a>]
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01:58:48 ◼ ► structure kind of forces you to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7128">TS</a>]
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01:58:53 ◼ ► you see these major apps like office and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7133">TS</a>]
01:58:56 ◼ ► adobe creative suite trying to get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7136">TS</a>]
01:58:59 ◼ ► descriptions so aggressively over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7139">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► last few years and I think they've both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:03 ◼ ► yeah we're like you know now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7143">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► kind of free to do things better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► yeah supposed to like the old model of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:11 ◼ ► like having having to try to justify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7151">TS</a>]
01:59:13 ◼ ► your revenue every single year with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7153">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► eight bullet list of features that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► added right it just it eventually even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► however much it was ever in dispute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► within those companies it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► obvious to everybody that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:28 ◼ ► you can't just keep adding more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7168">TS</a>]
01:59:30 ◼ ► consistent and and assume that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7170">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► means better when you can for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:35 ◼ ► like you know if it and it's generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7175">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► when things are young so when when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:40 ◼ ► applications are young or like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7180">TS</a>]
01:59:43 ◼ ► in the case of like you know Adobe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7183">TS</a>]
01:59:45 ◼ ► Microsoft a lot of their revenue came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7185">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► from people like you know os's were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:51 ◼ ► still young right and as os's would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7191">TS</a>]
01:59:53 ◼ ► change you have to get the new versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7193">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► of the app students work on the new OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7195">TS</a>]
01:59:56 ◼ ► computers were still young you be buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7196">TS</a>]
02:00:00 ◼ ► enter every three to five years or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7200">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► whatever it was that would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:03 ◼ ► different from your old one and so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7203">TS</a>]
02:00:05 ◼ ► better that you would buy new software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7205">TS</a>]
02:00:07 ◼ ► to take advantage of it or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7207">TS</a>]
02:00:09 ◼ ► like now everything is a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7209">TS</a>]
02:00:11 ◼ ► industries and it's true mobile as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7211">TS</a>]
02:00:13 ◼ ► like you know the upgrade cycle getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7213">TS</a>]
02:00:14 ◼ ► longer for these things and and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7214">TS</a>]
02:00:17 ◼ ► OS is our kind of settling down and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7217">TS</a>]
02:00:19 ◼ ► maturing and so the end and all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7219">TS</a>]
02:00:22 ◼ ► and if you if you've had any kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7222">TS</a>]
02:00:25 ◼ ► know long-standing problem in hell my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7225">TS</a>]
02:00:27 ◼ ► podcast app is only like two and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7227">TS</a>]
02:00:30 ◼ ► years old and I'm already running out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7230">TS</a>]
02:00:32 ◼ ► features i think i want to add to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7232">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► like there's that a certain point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:37 ◼ ► you add pretty much everything that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7237">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► think it needs and its kind of done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:43 ◼ ► feature wise but that doesn't mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7243">TS</a>]
02:00:45 ◼ ► can't be improved right so what you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7245">TS</a>]
02:00:47 ◼ ► arrived at after like you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:51 ◼ ► you've you've changed it suddenly with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7251">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► each major release but where you are now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7254">TS</a>]
02:00:55 ◼ ► is it's a free download so anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7255">TS</a>]
02:00:59 ◼ ► get it try the overcast for free which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7259">TS</a>]
02:01:02 ◼ ► think is a essential in today's world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7262">TS</a>]
02:01:04 ◼ ► been free since day 1i I'm I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7264">TS</a>]
02:01:06 ◼ ► regret that format right well i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7266">TS</a>]
02:01:07 ◼ ► you and i think it did proven right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7267">TS</a>]
02:01:10 ◼ ► because it's it's it's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7270">TS</a>]
02:01:13 ◼ ► I've said this before but I'd really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7273">TS</a>]
02:01:15 ◼ ► think it's true that when people there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7275">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► just too many people who with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► looking for a podcast app or they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► looking for a note app or whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:25 ◼ ► app is they'll start looking and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7285">TS</a>]
02:01:33 ◼ ► well I guess this is good enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7293">TS</a>]
02:01:35 ◼ ► that I'd never get past that they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7295">TS</a>]
02:01:40 ◼ ► there's just too many people who never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7300">TS</a>]
02:01:41 ◼ ► ever say I'm gonna try I'm gonna I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7301">TS</a>]
02:01:43 ◼ ► gonna cough up a dollar before I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7303">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► try it just because the screenshots look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7305">TS</a>]
02:01:48 ◼ ► I mean some people will but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7308">TS</a>]
02:01:49 ◼ ► enough and you know there's too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7309">TS</a>]
02:01:51 ◼ ► free ones and there's too many free ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:54 ◼ ► yeah well anyway there's that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7314">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► that saying like you're always fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7316">TS</a>]
02:01:57 ◼ ► the last war like right I I apologize to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7317">TS</a>]
02:02:00 ◼ ► John Syracuse for butchering that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7320">TS</a>]
02:02:03 ◼ ► went out when i was running into paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7323">TS</a>]
02:02:04 ◼ ► it was never free during the time i ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7324">TS</a>]
02:02:07 ◼ ► i was paid upfront the whole time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7327">TS</a>]
02:02:09 ◼ ► i was really adamant about that had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7329">TS</a>]
02:02:11 ◼ ► had to be paid upfront that's how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7331">TS</a>]
02:02:13 ◼ ► and that was okay for the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7333">TS</a>]
02:02:16 ◼ ► years of the app store but then every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7336">TS</a>]
02:02:20 ◼ ► competitor i got from that point forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7340">TS</a>]
02:02:22 ◼ ► what they were all free right like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7342">TS</a>]
02:02:24 ◼ ► every major competitor was free and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7344">TS</a>]
02:02:27 ◼ ► would and then Apple made reading list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7347">TS</a>]
02:02:29 ◼ ► which was free of course because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7349">TS</a>]
02:02:30 ◼ ► built-in and it's just like I really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7350">TS</a>]
02:02:34 ◼ ► marginalized by to a large degree by all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7354">TS</a>]
02:02:39 ◼ ► of my competitors being free and and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7359">TS</a>]
02:02:42 ◼ ► the platform having this thing for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7362">TS</a>]
02:02:43 ◼ ► and by my appt having a big pay wall in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7363">TS</a>]
02:02:46 ◼ ► front of it before anybody could even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7366">TS</a>]
02:02:48 ◼ ► and so that's one of the reasons why and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7368">TS</a>]
02:02:55 ◼ ► competitor would come out that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7375">TS</a>]
02:02:56 ◼ ► awesome and free because I i didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7376">TS</a>]
02:03:00 ◼ ► that for a long time and and so like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7380">TS</a>]
02:03:04 ◼ ► was like every morning I would wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7384">TS</a>]
02:03:06 ◼ ► afraid to look at the news on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7386">TS</a>]
02:03:08 ◼ ► because what if today was the day of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7388">TS</a>]
02:03:10 ◼ ► business was crushed by a new awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7390">TS</a>]
02:03:12 ◼ ► free competitor and so with overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7392">TS</a>]
02:03:14 ◼ ► longs to free bit in part out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7394">TS</a>]
02:03:17 ◼ ► because I was just like you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:19 ◼ ► I don't want to leave that gap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7399">TS</a>]
02:03:20 ◼ ► anybody like I don't want to I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7400">TS</a>]
02:03:22 ◼ ► wanna wake up every morning with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7402">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► well you also have the advantage though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:25 ◼ ► and I i mean it that it's an advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7405">TS</a>]
02:03:28 ◼ ► that Apple already had the podcast app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7408">TS</a>]
02:03:30 ◼ ► exactly i was pretty sure locked and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7410">TS</a>]
02:03:33 ◼ ► like I en so it was it and that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7413">TS</a>]
02:03:36 ◼ ► big reason why I was free because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7416">TS</a>]
02:03:38 ◼ ► know AI didn't want to leave you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7418">TS</a>]
02:03:39 ◼ ► what Apple calls a price umbrella have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7419">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► 44 you know competitors to to beat me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:44 ◼ ► only on pricing if you want to beat me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7424">TS</a>]
02:03:46 ◼ ► on quality fine i doubt play that game i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7426">TS</a>]
02:03:48 ◼ ► will happily fight on that on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:51 ◼ ► battlefront but I didn't want price to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7431">TS</a>]
02:03:54 ◼ ► be the only thing people could compete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7434">TS</a>]
02:03:56 ◼ ► with me or I'd rather I didn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7436">TS</a>]
02:03:58 ◼ ► be losing a lot of customers to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7438">TS</a>]
02:04:01 ◼ ► else because of price i think you and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7441">TS</a>]
02:04:02 ◼ ► always was in the paper and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7442">TS</a>]
02:04:04 ◼ ► killed me and so and i was at the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7444">TS</a>]
02:04:07 ◼ ► was not a good enough business person in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7447">TS</a>]
02:04:10 ◼ ► this regard to recognize at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7450">TS</a>]
02:04:12 ◼ ► that I should have gone free and figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7452">TS</a>]
02:04:13 ◼ ► out something else back then but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7453">TS</a>]
02:04:15 ◼ ► meantime I kind of figured that out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:17 ◼ ► that's why i launched because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7457">TS</a>]
02:04:18 ◼ ► you had an advantage that podcast apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7458">TS</a>]
02:04:21 ◼ ► podcast app isn't all it always has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7461">TS</a>]
02:04:24 ◼ ► and it's free and it's there and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7464">TS</a>]
02:04:26 ◼ ► got the itunes store backing it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7466">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► fact that it's apple's app does it come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► with the phones or do you have to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:32 ◼ ► from the app store i forget heights they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7472">TS</a>]
02:04:33 ◼ ► go back and forth like every few really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7473">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► systematically I forget what it is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:37 ◼ ► at the fact that separate the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7477">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► it's pretty good and very popular is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:41 ◼ ► much better situation I I feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7481">TS</a>]
02:04:44 ◼ ► had Vesper we added it was a disservice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7484">TS</a>]
02:04:46 ◼ ► to us that at that time Apple notes was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7486">TS</a>]
02:04:50 ◼ ► it was right it was a really bad app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7490">TS</a>]
02:04:52 ◼ ► with really bad sink the only way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7492">TS</a>]
02:04:54 ◼ ► sink was through imap how is a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7494">TS</a>]
02:04:57 ◼ ► god bless him for having made it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7497">TS</a>]
02:04:59 ◼ ► but it just didn't work well and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7499">TS</a>]
02:05:03 ◼ ► terrible if your email was gmail because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7503">TS</a>]
02:05:05 ◼ ► Jim it you get copies of messages over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7505">TS</a>]
02:05:07 ◼ ► and over again that was terrible that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7507">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► think i'm starting with iOS 9 it was two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:12 ◼ ► years ago where they haven't read notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7512">TS</a>]
02:05:14 ◼ ► and they build it on cloudkit and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7514">TS</a>]
02:05:16 ◼ ► it's super good it's a really great it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7516">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► a great note app and its really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:20 ◼ ► sync the sink is terrific would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7520">TS</a>]
02:05:23 ◼ ► been better if that was already out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7523">TS</a>]
02:05:24 ◼ ► because it would have calibrated our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7524">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► expectations like it wasn't like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:27 ◼ ► assumed apple will never improve notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7527">TS</a>]
02:05:29 ◼ ► but we didn't know what it would be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7529">TS</a>]
02:05:31 ◼ ► know and it yeah exactly so right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7531">TS</a>]
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02:12:27 ◼ ► list of articles and if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7947">TS</a>]
02:12:29 ◼ ► read one you get like a two-sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7949">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► summary and then you double click it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:32 ◼ ► go to the website and then you'd see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7952">TS</a>]
02:12:34 ◼ ► website at all that work you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7954">TS</a>]
02:12:37 ◼ ► works in terms of not giving away your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7957">TS</a>]
02:12:39 ◼ ► content for free but it wasn't what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7959">TS</a>]
02:12:41 ◼ ► people who use RSS readers want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7961">TS</a>]
02:12:43 ◼ ► they they they were using RSS readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7963">TS</a>]
02:12:45 ◼ ► because they wanted to read your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7965">TS</a>]
02:12:47 ◼ ► in the RSS reader yesterday only ruin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7967">TS</a>]
02:12:49 ◼ ► the feet right so the next thing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7969">TS</a>]
02:12:50 ◼ ► would try to do is they would put banner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7970">TS</a>]
02:12:52 ◼ ► ads in the each article which made them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7972">TS</a>]
02:12:55 ◼ ► like little web pages and they paid like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7975">TS</a>]
02:12:57 ◼ ► pennies and everybody just skipped over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7977">TS</a>]
02:12:59 ◼ ► and so my idea was why not just have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7979">TS</a>]
02:13:03 ◼ ► paid entry in the feet like once a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7983">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► make given the whole entry don't put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:07 ◼ ► something in the entries just sell an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7987">TS</a>]
02:13:11 ◼ ► and has worked out very very well and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7991">TS</a>]
02:13:14 ◼ ► think selling a podcast i think if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7994">TS</a>]
02:13:16 ◼ ► your idea works i think actually having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7996">TS</a>]
02:13:18 ◼ ► the podcast sell at by other podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/7998">TS</a>]
02:13:22 ◼ ► buying the ads is going to work and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8002">TS</a>]
02:13:25 ◼ ► of the things that it occurred to me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8005">TS</a>]
02:13:27 ◼ ► what do you see a lot when you watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8007">TS</a>]
02:13:28 ◼ ► regular commercial TV what do you see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8008">TS</a>]
02:13:30 ◼ ► lot of commercials for TV show TV shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8010">TS</a>]
02:13:33 ◼ ► yeah but I hate and it's not because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8013">TS</a>]
02:13:36 ◼ ► network couldn't sell the spot and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8016">TS</a>]
02:13:39 ◼ ► well we'll put an ad for modern family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8019">TS</a>]
02:13:42 ◼ ► during a you know the the football game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8022">TS</a>]
02:13:46 ◼ ► because we don't we didn't sell the spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8026">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► they do it because they know it's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:50 ◼ ► valuable to get people to watch the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8030">TS</a>]
02:13:53 ◼ ► like I can't even tell you how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8033">TS</a>]
02:13:55 ◼ ► times during the Superbowl they told you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8035">TS</a>]
02:13:56 ◼ ► how many forget what the show was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8036">TS</a>]
02:13:59 ◼ ► and it shows that while the ads work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8039">TS</a>]
02:14:01 ◼ ► but they kept telling you what you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8041">TS</a>]
02:14:03 ◼ ► show is going to be on right after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8043">TS</a>]
02:14:05 ◼ ► superbowl yeah it was like the new 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8045">TS</a>]
02:14:07 ◼ ► reboot or something like that over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8047">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► over and over again because it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:12 ◼ ► because you're already watching TV right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8052">TS</a>]
02:14:14 ◼ ► exactly and listening to a podcast yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8054">TS</a>]
02:14:18 ◼ ► and so like that's like I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8058">TS</a>]
02:14:21 ◼ ► the only question my mind basically is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8061">TS</a>]
02:14:23 ◼ ► like do enough podcasters have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8063">TS</a>]
02:14:27 ◼ ► money to want to pay for ads right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8067">TS</a>]
02:14:30 ◼ ► and that's a big question mark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8070">TS</a>]
02:14:32 ◼ ► that's why I'm like this isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8072">TS</a>]
02:14:33 ◼ ► podcast like I also have like a hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8073">TS</a>]
02:14:35 ◼ ► add a Squarespace add a little added my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8075">TS</a>]
02:14:37 ◼ ► like AI can advertise for i put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8077">TS</a>]
02:14:40 ◼ ► whole thing to be fairly generic so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8080">TS</a>]
02:14:42 ◼ ► can advertise for podcast or just any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8082">TS</a>]
02:14:44 ◼ ► websites or apps in the App Store I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8084">TS</a>]
02:14:47 ◼ ► any of those things can be advertised it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8087">TS</a>]
02:14:50 ◼ ► with these with these ad units and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8090">TS</a>]
02:14:52 ◼ ► control server side so I can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8092">TS</a>]
02:14:54 ◼ ► finally answered them as necessary I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8094">TS</a>]
02:14:57 ◼ ► just ate ever means to be seen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8097">TS</a>]
02:15:00 ◼ ► whether podcasters actually will buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8100">TS</a>]
02:15:02 ◼ ► these at the prices they end up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8102">TS</a>]
02:15:06 ◼ ► well what i don't--that's I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8106">TS</a>]
02:15:08 ◼ ► what percentage i mean right now you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8108">TS</a>]
02:15:10 ◼ ► your revenue is overwhelmingly from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8110">TS</a>]
02:15:12 ◼ ► premium subscribers correct yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8112">TS</a>]
02:15:14 ◼ ► basically what what allowed me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8114">TS</a>]
02:15:18 ◼ ► is that what i found in September since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8118">TS</a>]
02:15:22 ◼ ► the the google ads in apps and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8122">TS</a>]
02:15:25 ◼ ► means this is true of have any you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8125">TS</a>]
02:15:27 ◼ ► and advertising basically in how much it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8127">TS</a>]
02:15:30 ◼ ► works for you is extremely dependent on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8130">TS</a>]
02:15:34 ◼ ► your click-through rate you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8134">TS</a>]
02:15:36 ◼ ► basically how many clicks do you get per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8136">TS</a>]
02:15:38 ◼ ► thousand impressions of the ad as its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8138">TS</a>]
02:15:40 ◼ ► shown and my click-through rate in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8140">TS</a>]
02:15:44 ◼ ► google ads was awful it was it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8144">TS</a>]
02:15:47 ◼ ► far below like industry averages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8147">TS</a>]
02:15:49 ◼ ► everything it was terrible and who wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8149">TS</a>]
02:15:50 ◼ ► to jump out to a web browser and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8150">TS</a>]
02:15:53 ◼ ► certainly part of it i mean and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8153">TS</a>]
02:15:54 ◼ ► part of it and how many people how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8154">TS</a>]
02:15:56 ◼ ► people think if they tap it and it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8156">TS</a>]
02:15:57 ◼ ► to web browser that the podcast is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8157">TS</a>]
02:15:59 ◼ ► to stop playing it didn't because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8159">TS</a>]
02:16:01 ◼ ► gonna run in the background but how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8161">TS</a>]
02:16:03 ◼ ► people wouldn't even would maybe even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8163">TS</a>]
02:16:05 ◼ ► vaguely interested but wouldn't tap it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8165">TS</a>]
02:16:07 ◼ ► be out of fear that the podcast would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8167">TS</a>]
02:16:08 ◼ ► stop playing which would be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8168">TS</a>]
02:16:09 ◼ ► worst thing ever and ever thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8169">TS</a>]
02:16:11 ◼ ► that but so basically like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8171">TS</a>]
02:16:13 ◼ ► there was that big problem of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8173">TS</a>]
02:16:16 ◼ ► know I'm i tap travay was terrible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8176">TS</a>]
02:16:18 ◼ ► ends and also just you know things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8178">TS</a>]
02:16:21 ◼ ► advertise in these kind of like bulk ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8181">TS</a>]
02:16:24 ◼ ► networks on mobile they weren't often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8184">TS</a>]
02:16:27 ◼ ► very high quality and it's alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8187">TS</a>]
02:16:29 ◼ ► it's the result of this was was both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8189">TS</a>]
02:16:32 ◼ ► that they look kind of junkie and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8192">TS</a>]
02:16:35 ◼ ► they made very little money and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8195">TS</a>]
02:16:38 ◼ ► and the the only reason that this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8198">TS</a>]
02:16:41 ◼ ► succeeded as a business model at all is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8201">TS</a>]
02:16:44 ◼ ► because having the ads they're made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8204">TS</a>]
02:16:47 ◼ ► lot more people subscribers premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8207">TS</a>]
02:16:49 ◼ ► members than the previous system which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8209">TS</a>]
02:16:52 ◼ ► is basically like subscribe if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8212">TS</a>]
02:16:53 ◼ ► me it was like kind of like a voluntary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8213">TS</a>]
02:16:55 ◼ ► patronage things right that got very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8215">TS</a>]
02:16:57 ◼ ► people to subscribe and so having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8217">TS</a>]
02:17:00 ◼ ► ads there you know I thought it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8220">TS</a>]
02:17:02 ◼ ► a nice balance of my car i'll make a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8222">TS</a>]
02:17:04 ◼ ► of money from ads and some money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8224">TS</a>]
02:17:05 ◼ ► subscription ends I made more money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8225">TS</a>]
02:17:08 ◼ ► subscriptions and I thought and way less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8228">TS</a>]
02:17:10 ◼ ► money from ads I expected so there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8230">TS</a>]
02:17:12 ◼ ► there the advantage they have the hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8232">TS</a>]
02:17:13 ◼ ► of surviving there is that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8233">TS</a>]
02:17:16 ◼ ► replace the ads with basically any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8236">TS</a>]
02:17:19 ◼ ► ads like it doesn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8239">TS</a>]
02:17:21 ◼ ► whatever i replace them with as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8241">TS</a>]
02:17:24 ◼ ► it brings in some money it can I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8244">TS</a>]
02:17:28 ◼ ► come out basically you know that at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8248">TS</a>]
02:17:30 ◼ ► same or ahead at from the little bit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8250">TS</a>]
02:17:33 ◼ ► was making from google just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8253">TS</a>]
02:17:36 ◼ ► terrible from those ads and doesn't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8256">TS</a>]
02:17:38 ◼ ► doesn't make you hang your head in shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8258">TS</a>]
02:17:39 ◼ ► but the quality that is long exactly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8259">TS</a>]
02:17:43 ◼ ► haven't wanted and i only have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8263">TS</a>]
02:17:44 ◼ ► about 24 hours worth of numbers so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8264">TS</a>]
02:17:48 ◼ ► but might a parade on the new ads is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8268">TS</a>]
02:17:51 ◼ ► something like I think it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8271">TS</a>]
02:17:53 ◼ ► hundred times better than it is but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8273">TS</a>]
02:17:55 ◼ ► it's some obscene multiplier I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8275">TS</a>]
02:17:58 ◼ ► again i only have 24 hours to data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8278">TS</a>]
02:18:00 ◼ ► everyone's trying to map to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8280">TS</a>]
02:18:01 ◼ ► they are so you know this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8281">TS</a>]
02:18:03 ◼ ► representative of long-term trends but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8283">TS</a>]
02:18:05 ◼ ► i'm confident so far that I I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8285">TS</a>]
02:18:11 ◼ ► i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i think it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8291">TS</a>]
02:18:16 ◼ ► to work i think it's a good idea but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8296">TS</a>]
02:18:17 ◼ ► it's it's definitely better than the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8297">TS</a>]
02:18:20 ◼ ► no I mean my only question really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8300">TS</a>]
02:18:22 ◼ ► like you know in six months are most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8302">TS</a>]
02:18:25 ◼ ► the ads that you see an overcast going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8305">TS</a>]
02:18:27 ◼ ► to be for websites like hovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8307">TS</a>]
02:18:29 ◼ ► Squarespace are they going to be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8309">TS</a>]
02:18:30 ◼ ► podcasts yeah and I have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8310">TS</a>]
02:18:32 ◼ ► yeah but it's good to keep an open mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8312">TS</a>]
02:18:33 ◼ ► and let it sort out exactly as it falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8313">TS</a>]
02:18:36 ◼ ► water seeks its own level I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8316">TS</a>]
02:18:38 ◼ ► is one of those things to where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8318">TS</a>]
02:18:39 ◼ ► underestimate your personal skill set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8319">TS</a>]
02:18:42 ◼ ► terms of your I mean it you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8322">TS</a>]
02:18:46 ◼ ► main part of overcast is that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8326">TS</a>]
02:18:48 ◼ ► it's an iOS app and its programming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8328">TS</a>]
02:18:51 ◼ ► know and you've done we talked you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8331">TS</a>]
02:18:53 ◼ ► extensively already about the all the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8333">TS</a>]
02:18:55 ◼ ► stuff that you've done and changed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8335">TS</a>]
02:18:57 ◼ ► customized and and to customizing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8337">TS</a>]
02:19:00 ◼ ► table view and all this stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8340">TS</a>]
02:19:01 ◼ ► just pure this is what iOS developers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8341">TS</a>]
02:19:04 ◼ ► of good apps do but your background as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8344">TS</a>]
02:19:07 ◼ ► CMS developer let's gives you like such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8347">TS</a>]
02:19:11 ◼ ► a leg up in terms of I'll just build my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8351">TS</a>]
02:19:13 ◼ ► own ad network and you are it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8353">TS</a>]
02:19:17 ◼ ► because you did this before you built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8357">TS</a>]
02:19:19 ◼ ► the system that we we use I use it.you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8359">TS</a>]
02:19:22 ◼ ► ATP's it just to just set up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8362">TS</a>]
02:19:26 ◼ ► schedule of podcast ads you know which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8366">TS</a>]
02:19:29 ◼ ► adds her in which episode what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8369">TS</a>]
02:19:31 ◼ ► say it was just something you built out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8371">TS</a>]
02:19:35 ◼ ► of the frustration of like whatever jury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8375">TS</a>]
02:19:38 ◼ ► rigged system i don't remember what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8378">TS</a>]
02:19:40 ◼ ► did before but I i use a terrible excel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8380">TS</a>]
02:19:42 ◼ ► spreadsheet before and that's what most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8382">TS</a>]
02:19:44 ◼ ► people have some kind of like awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8384">TS</a>]
02:19:46 ◼ ► combination of what actually tied oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8386">TS</a>]
02:19:47 ◼ ► yeah I was a number spreadsheet yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8387">TS</a>]
02:19:49 ◼ ► it was just awful and it it you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8389">TS</a>]
02:19:55 ◼ ► like your ability to to have this second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8395">TS</a>]
02:19:57 ◼ ► skill set where you can build the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8397">TS</a>]
02:20:00 ◼ ► end of a dynamic on-the-fly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8400">TS</a>]
02:20:04 ◼ ► up-to-the-minute add thing is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8404">TS</a>]
02:20:07 ◼ ► advantage of being able to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8407">TS</a>]
02:20:08 ◼ ► something like this because I can see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8408">TS</a>]
02:20:09 ◼ ► lot of people might come up with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8409">TS</a>]
02:20:11 ◼ ► idea but then like they will wait how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8411">TS</a>]
02:20:13 ◼ ► would I actually how I actually managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8413">TS</a>]
02:20:15 ◼ ► the ads on the back end so that they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8415">TS</a>]
02:20:17 ◼ ► served and maybe that would would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8417">TS</a>]
02:20:20 ◼ ► percolate up to the level where they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8420">TS</a>]
02:20:21 ◼ ► it because they don't have that skill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8421">TS</a>]
02:20:26 ◼ ► necessarily say they don't that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8426">TS</a>]
02:20:27 ◼ ► it's much of a skillset honestly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8427">TS</a>]
02:20:30 ◼ ► more of like a a willing / it's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8430">TS</a>]
02:20:33 ◼ ► a confidence to do it because like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8433">TS</a>]
02:20:35 ◼ ► many so many app developers don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8435">TS</a>]
02:20:38 ◼ ► lot of server-side experience and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8438">TS</a>]
02:20:40 ◼ ► like you know that they have experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8440">TS</a>]
02:20:41 ◼ ► developing the local native app but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8441">TS</a>]
02:20:43 ◼ ► maybe not necessarily the server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8443">TS</a>]
02:20:44 ◼ ► shops or they don't want to run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8444">TS</a>]
02:20:47 ◼ ► server themselves or have to depend on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8447">TS</a>]
02:20:48 ◼ ► server and and I just whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8448">TS</a>]
02:20:51 ◼ ► whatever it is that intimidate people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8451">TS</a>]
02:20:54 ◼ ► are turns people off about running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8454">TS</a>]
02:20:56 ◼ ► I don't have that is my job you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8456">TS</a>]
02:20:59 ◼ ► before making apps my job was all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8459">TS</a>]
02:21:01 ◼ ► running servers and running application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8461">TS</a>]
02:21:02 ◼ ► servers and so I just became comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8462">TS</a>]
02:21:04 ◼ ► with that running servers are running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8464">TS</a>]
02:21:07 ◼ ► apps on servers and writing back end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8467">TS</a>]
02:21:08 ◼ ► code is actually way easier than writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8468">TS</a>]
02:21:10 ◼ ► app code in so many ways it's it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8470">TS</a>]
02:21:14 ◼ ► know sorry back and developers i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8474">TS</a>]
02:21:15 ◼ ► i'm i'm one of you sometimes but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8475">TS</a>]
02:21:19 ◼ ► most of the time that i'm writing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8479">TS</a>]
02:21:21 ◼ ► most app code that you have to do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8481">TS</a>]
02:21:23 ◼ ► make a reasonable quality app and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8483">TS</a>]
02:21:26 ◼ ► isn't the most developers can't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8486">TS</a>]
02:21:27 ◼ ► it's that most of them think they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8487">TS</a>]
02:21:29 ◼ ► do it so don't even try it the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8489">TS</a>]
02:21:33 ◼ ► challenge for me trying to always add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8493">TS</a>]
02:21:36 ◼ ► stuff is that I just find it incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8496">TS</a>]
02:21:38 ◼ ► interesting like the the ID like i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8498">TS</a>]
02:21:41 ◼ ► actually really got a lot of enjoyment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8501">TS</a>]
02:21:43 ◼ ► out of designing the ad format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8503">TS</a>]
02:21:45 ◼ ► integrating into the app and making that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8505">TS</a>]
02:21:47 ◼ ► work flow nicely but doing the backend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8507">TS</a>]
02:21:49 ◼ ► of like putting in the ads and tracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8509">TS</a>]
02:21:52 ◼ ► how many clicks they get like that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8512">TS</a>]
02:21:54 ◼ ► could not be less interested in doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8514">TS</a>]
02:22:01 ◼ ► well you did it i don't know we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8521">TS</a>]
02:22:05 ◼ ► I literally did it like three days ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8525">TS</a>]
02:22:07 ◼ ► yeah the other little details i have are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8527">TS</a>]
02:22:11 ◼ ► some of the the changes that you call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8531">TS</a>]
02:22:13 ◼ ► a diosss seven vacation so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8533">TS</a>]
02:22:16 ◼ ► good things about the timing of over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8536">TS</a>]
02:22:19 ◼ ► casas it debuted with ios7 so it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8539">TS</a>]
02:22:21 ◼ ► had to go through that shift from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8541">TS</a>]
02:22:24 ◼ ► old world of iOS 6 to iOS 7 visually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8544">TS</a>]
02:22:27 ◼ ► and you know in terms of the the way the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8547">TS</a>]
02:22:32 ◼ ► stop it went through the shift just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8552">TS</a>]
02:22:34 ◼ ► really thought accept me right and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8554">TS</a>]
02:22:39 ◼ ► interesting like it's but it's I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8559">TS</a>]
02:22:42 ◼ ► never an iOS 7 hater but I was seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8562">TS</a>]
02:22:45 ◼ ► definitely debuted at the extreme end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8565">TS</a>]
02:22:48 ◼ ► the direction that it went which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8568">TS</a>]
02:22:50 ◼ ► is the way that you go I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8570">TS</a>]
02:22:52 ◼ ► right way to it was right for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8572">TS</a>]
02:22:54 ◼ ► go push it as far as they could with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8574">TS</a>]
02:22:59 ◼ ► everywhere but they've dialed a back a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8579">TS</a>]
02:23:06 ◼ ► iOS 8 to 9 to 10 and a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8586">TS</a>]
02:23:11 ◼ ► changes you made an overcast three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8591">TS</a>]
02:23:13 ◼ ► really bring them to the forefront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8593">TS</a>]
02:23:15 ◼ ► because there were some things that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8595">TS</a>]
02:23:17 ◼ ► been there and overcast since one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8597">TS</a>]
02:23:18 ◼ ► out that are now gone but that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8598">TS</a>]
02:23:20 ◼ ► disappear until now like the popover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8600">TS</a>]
02:23:23 ◼ ► that you would get for the info on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8603">TS</a>]
02:23:25 ◼ ► podcast which you said you hated from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8605">TS</a>]
02:23:27 ◼ ► the beginning I did I i hated popovers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8607">TS</a>]
02:23:30 ◼ ► and included in the user popovers was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8610">TS</a>]
02:23:34 ◼ ► translucency like iOS 7 introduce an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8614">TS</a>]
02:23:37 ◼ ► awful lot of things that were like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8617">TS</a>]
02:23:39 ◼ ► semi-translucent piece of glass or like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8619">TS</a>]
02:23:43 ◼ ► it's like the popover that i'm talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8623">TS</a>]
02:23:44 ◼ ► about look like it was printed on like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8624">TS</a>]
02:23:46 ◼ ► frosted glass so you could like see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8626">TS</a>]
02:23:49 ◼ ► like a shower you can see that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8629">TS</a>]
02:23:51 ◼ ► somebody in the shower but you can't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8631">TS</a>]
02:23:53 ◼ ► what they look like you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8633">TS</a>]
02:23:55 ◼ ► use of blur because what happened was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8635">TS</a>]
02:23:57 ◼ ► like at the time that iOS 7 came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8637">TS</a>]
02:23:59 ◼ ► whatever combination of hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8639">TS</a>]
02:24:02 ◼ ► software tricks blur is computationally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8642">TS</a>]
02:24:05 ◼ ► intensive and so they basically couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8645">TS</a>]
02:24:07 ◼ ► do it before and on on that years i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8647">TS</a>]
02:24:10 ◼ ► think it was 2013 the camp came out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8650">TS</a>]
02:24:14 ◼ ► of iphones they were finally powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8654">TS</a>]
02:24:17 ◼ ► enough to really do it in the NHL with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8657">TS</a>]
02:24:19 ◼ ► couple of nice offer tricks to to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8659">TS</a>]
02:24:20 ◼ ► little bit faster and so it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8660">TS</a>]
02:24:23 ◼ ► they had this new technical ability that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8663">TS</a>]
02:24:25 ◼ ► that was pretty rare before especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8665">TS</a>]
02:24:27 ◼ ► and was not seen it all mobiles it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8667">TS</a>]
02:24:29 ◼ ► too complex to do on mobile hardware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8669">TS</a>]
02:24:32 ◼ ► so they went nuts with it was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8672">TS</a>]
02:24:33 ◼ ► know typical you know when you get a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8673">TS</a>]
02:24:35 ◼ ► tech ability you first go to the energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8675">TS</a>]
02:24:37 ◼ ► dialogue back and then they certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8677">TS</a>]
02:24:38 ◼ ► did but i think what if what this update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8678">TS</a>]
02:24:42 ◼ ► really focuses is where we we still use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8682">TS</a>]
02:24:45 ◼ ► blur apple still uses blur extensively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8685">TS</a>]
02:24:47 ◼ ► in iOS 10 but instead of being like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8687">TS</a>]
02:24:50 ◼ ► foreground panel that's in the front and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8690">TS</a>]
02:24:53 ◼ ► that you see through its the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8693">TS</a>]
02:24:56 ◼ ► so for example when you get to the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8696">TS</a>]
02:24:58 ◼ ► touch on a on an episode to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8698">TS</a>]
02:25:03 ◼ ► the panel is not translucent but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8703">TS</a>]
02:25:05 ◼ ► background around it is which is in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8705">TS</a>]
02:25:09 ◼ ► a subtle difference but i think it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8709">TS</a>]
02:25:11 ◼ ► much better because that yeah it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8711">TS</a>]
02:25:14 ◼ ► make the thing you're looking at hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8714">TS</a>]
02:25:15 ◼ ► read but it gives you this in immediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8715">TS</a>]
02:25:21 ◼ ► this is just a little you know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8721">TS</a>]
02:25:22 ◼ ► it's all blurry in the background I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8722">TS</a>]
02:25:23 ◼ ► pop this thing up because I you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8723">TS</a>]
02:25:26 ◼ ► thing about blur is like it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8726">TS</a>]
02:25:28 ◼ ► it's it besides being computationally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8728">TS</a>]
02:25:30 ◼ ► difficult it's also very hard to design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8730">TS</a>]
02:25:33 ◼ ► around ya like it like when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8733">TS</a>]
02:25:35 ◼ ► have these flurry foreground pains and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8735">TS</a>]
02:25:38 ◼ ► these large blurry expanses and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8738">TS</a>]
02:25:41 ◼ ► have like you know behind me I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8741">TS</a>]
02:25:43 ◼ ► some like bright pink icon shining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8743">TS</a>]
02:25:45 ◼ ► through any of this black pink blob in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8745">TS</a>]
02:25:47 ◼ ► the in the blur area it's very hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8747">TS</a>]
02:25:50 ◼ ► design around that to make that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8750">TS</a>]
02:25:52 ◼ ► legible and attractive in all situations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8752">TS</a>]
02:25:55 ◼ ► it's nearly impossible and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8755">TS</a>]
02:26:00 ◼ ► other difference that's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8760">TS</a>]
02:26:02 ◼ ► moving directly away from iOS 7 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8762">TS</a>]
02:26:04 ◼ ► slightly thicker lines you know like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8764">TS</a>]
02:26:07 ◼ ► constant stuff like that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8767">TS</a>]
02:26:11 ◼ ► everything isn't so wispy anymore it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8771">TS</a>]
02:26:13 ◼ ► little you know I wouldn't say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8773">TS</a>]
02:26:15 ◼ ► thick lines but they're they're much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8775">TS</a>]
02:26:19 ◼ ► oh you should have seen the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8779">TS</a>]
02:26:22 ◼ ► Lou mantia that i designed the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8782">TS</a>]
02:26:25 ◼ ► entire rest of the app myself and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8785">TS</a>]
02:26:27 ◼ ► went to him see he made the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8787">TS</a>]
02:26:28 ◼ ► icon so I went to him to to refresh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8788">TS</a>]
02:26:31 ◼ ► icon and and I showed him the screenshot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8791">TS</a>]
02:26:36 ◼ ► of of the toolbar the main screen as for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8796">TS</a>]
02:26:39 ◼ ► comes across the toppings like what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8799">TS</a>]
02:26:40 ◼ ► you doing with the stroke with because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8800">TS</a>]
02:26:43 ◼ ► the you know the the lines in all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8803">TS</a>]
02:26:47 ◼ ► icons and everything and in all previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8807">TS</a>]
02:26:49 ◼ ► versions were one point wide which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8809">TS</a>]
02:26:51 ◼ ► you know two pixels on the on the 2x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8811">TS</a>]
02:26:54 ◼ ► phones and then three pixels or six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8814">TS</a>]
02:26:56 ◼ ► death and three pixels on anyway so one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8816">TS</a>]
02:27:00 ◼ ► point we had before I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8820">TS</a>]
02:27:02 ◼ ► everything a little bit thicker two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8822">TS</a>]
02:27:04 ◼ ► points in most things look too thick so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8824">TS</a>]
02:27:08 ◼ ► the actual stroke width of most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8828">TS</a>]
02:27:11 ◼ ► icons and overcast is 1.5 points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8831">TS</a>]
02:27:15 ◼ ► this makes everything suck this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8835">TS</a>]
02:27:18 ◼ ► makes everything about icon design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8838">TS</a>]
02:27:20 ◼ ► harder because you can either have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8840">TS</a>]
02:27:24 ◼ ► blurry on all devices or you can align [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8844">TS</a>]
02:27:27 ◼ ► things to quarter-point boundaries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8847">TS</a>]
02:27:31 ◼ ► have it work so that's what I did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8851">TS</a>]
02:27:35 ◼ ► when i try to make another designer do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8855">TS</a>]
02:27:36 ◼ ► that I got some pushback eventually we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8856">TS</a>]
02:27:41 ◼ ► work to help you putt that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8861">TS</a>]
02:27:44 ◼ ► result is that almost all the icons in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8864">TS</a>]
02:27:47 ◼ ► overcast three have a 1.5 points stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8867">TS</a>]
02:27:50 ◼ ► width and it works so it looks sharp and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8870">TS</a>]
02:27:53 ◼ ► so it's not gonna work out well I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8873">TS</a>]
02:27:55 ◼ ► 3x iphone 10 so that's wrong that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8875">TS</a>]
02:27:58 ◼ ► question so basically the way it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8878">TS</a>]
02:28:01 ◼ ► the way of aligning them on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8881">TS</a>]
02:28:03 ◼ ► it was it is sharp on 2x on 3x it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8883">TS</a>]
02:28:08 ◼ ► little bit less sharp but there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8888">TS</a>]
02:28:10 ◼ ► many pixels and kind of thinking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8890">TS</a>]
02:28:11 ◼ ► might notice yeah get on i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8891">TS</a>]
02:28:13 ◼ ► don't notice on the plus phones now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8893">TS</a>]
02:28:19 ◼ ► have to see anyway I think it's here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8899">TS</a>]
02:28:20 ◼ ► that makes anything else you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8900">TS</a>]
02:28:23 ◼ ► talk about I don't think so I mean we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8903">TS</a>]
02:28:27 ◼ ► only been going for two and a half hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8907">TS</a>]
02:28:28 ◼ ► I mean we we still have three more to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8908">TS</a>]
02:28:30 ◼ ► right that's short for us we gotta write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8910">TS</a>]
02:28:32 ◼ ► it really is really short for us i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8912">TS</a>]
02:28:35 ◼ ► the release know you had that one bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8915">TS</a>]
02:28:36 ◼ ► had to fix you have one emergency bug in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8916">TS</a>]
02:28:39 ◼ ► it but it seems like that got through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8919">TS</a>]
02:28:40 ◼ ► do have to do an expedited review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8920">TS</a>]
02:28:42 ◼ ► no I say it was just fast yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8922">TS</a>]
02:28:47 ◼ ► so yeah I actually actually fixed help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8927">TS</a>]
02:28:50 ◼ ► me pull up i have affixed 13like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8930">TS</a>]
02:28:53 ◼ ► important day one bugs one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8933">TS</a>]
02:28:56 ◼ ► you know people had a couple understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8936">TS</a>]
02:28:58 ◼ ► like why did you beat it is this more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8938">TS</a>]
02:29:00 ◼ ► with a bigger group your beta group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8940">TS</a>]
02:29:01 ◼ ► stuck and and the the reason why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8941">TS</a>]
02:29:04 ◼ ► literally is secrecy like that's it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8944">TS</a>]
02:29:07 ◼ ► a boring reason and but that's true like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8947">TS</a>]
02:29:08 ◼ ► I have done bigger base before I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8948">TS</a>]
02:29:10 ◼ ► basis where I've tried to feel like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8950">TS</a>]
02:29:12 ◼ ► 1000 my test flights lots and I came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8952">TS</a>]
02:29:15 ◼ ► pretty close they had like eight hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8955">TS</a>]
02:29:16 ◼ ► people on one of them and and I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8956">TS</a>]
02:29:19 ◼ ► like a medium-sized works like a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8959">TS</a>]
02:29:20 ◼ ► and fifty people and and this one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8960">TS</a>]
02:29:22 ◼ ► something like 40 or 50 people and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8962">TS</a>]
02:29:25 ◼ ► reason why I kept it small is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8965">TS</a>]
02:29:27 ◼ ► every previous beta I've done I've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8967">TS</a>]
02:29:30 ◼ ► the instructions please don't share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8970">TS</a>]
02:29:32 ◼ ► screenshot to this with anybody please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8972">TS</a>]
02:29:34 ◼ ► don't show those people who aren't on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8974">TS</a>]
02:29:35 ◼ ► the baby like please try to keep this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8975">TS</a>]
02:29:36 ◼ ► under wraps and every single time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8976">TS</a>]
02:29:39 ◼ ► been bigger than my group of people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8979">TS</a>]
02:29:40 ◼ ► like friends i did this baby with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8980">TS</a>]
02:29:42 ◼ ► like it because it and it's not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8982">TS</a>]
02:29:44 ◼ ► trying to be devious things don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8984">TS</a>]
02:29:45 ◼ ► the directions and they think it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8985">TS</a>]
02:29:48 ◼ ► i want to show it off whatever else so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8988">TS</a>]
02:29:50 ◼ ► just didn't want that like there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8990">TS</a>]
02:29:51 ◼ ► there was enough new stuff in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8991">TS</a>]
02:29:54 ◼ ► visually that I did not want anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8994">TS</a>]
02:29:56 ◼ ► sharing a screenshot before I am able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8996">TS</a>]
02:29:58 ◼ ► the world and you know did it whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/8998">TS</a>]
02:30:01 ◼ ► you think it's a valid excuse for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9001">TS</a>]
02:30:02 ◼ ► that was the reason and and I knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9002">TS</a>]
02:30:05 ◼ ► could trust this group of people to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9005">TS</a>]
02:30:07 ◼ ► be attentive to that to be trustworthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9007">TS</a>]
02:30:09 ◼ ► of that so I tested it just with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9009">TS</a>]
02:30:11 ◼ ► trusted friends and I found the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9011">TS</a>]
02:30:14 ◼ ► number of bugs that you find with larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9014">TS</a>]
02:30:17 ◼ ► groups of people actually isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9017">TS</a>]
02:30:19 ◼ ► I don't think likely there that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9019">TS</a>]
02:30:21 ◼ ► really experience I think the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9021">TS</a>]
02:30:22 ◼ ► you can do it is to a public beta and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9022">TS</a>]
02:30:25 ◼ ► then you'll you will shake out more bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9025">TS</a>]
02:30:27 ◼ ► in the aggregate but then you completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9027">TS</a>]
02:30:29 ◼ ► blowing any kind of secrecy because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9029">TS</a>]
02:30:32 ◼ ► yeah exactly and you kinda can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9032">TS</a>]
02:30:34 ◼ ► in iOS like that is kind of what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9034">TS</a>]
02:30:36 ◼ ► simulated with my like test flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9036">TS</a>]
02:30:38 ◼ ► invitation for me with that with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9038">TS</a>]
02:30:39 ◼ ► previous tests but but it's yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9039">TS</a>]
02:30:43 ◼ ► it's a basically is like now I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9043">TS</a>]
02:30:46 ◼ ► it for a bug fix update because now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9046">TS</a>]
02:30:48 ◼ ► there's nothing secret for the next few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9048">TS</a>]
02:30:50 ◼ ► releases next release gonna be bug fixes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9050">TS</a>]
02:30:52 ◼ ► and minor feature edition so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9052">TS</a>]
02:30:53 ◼ ► would consider doing it now but now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9053">TS</a>]
02:30:55 ◼ ► not necessary anymore and I really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9055">TS</a>]
02:30:57 ◼ ► found that keeping the beta small is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9057">TS</a>]
02:30:58 ◼ ► way to go so anyway we're about a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9058">TS</a>]
02:31:00 ◼ ► of bugs you about 60 with Vesper and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9060">TS</a>]
02:31:02 ◼ ► rule was i'm looking at the list right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9062">TS</a>]
02:31:04 ◼ ► now because we put me at credit i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9064">TS</a>]
02:31:06 ◼ ► say out of the 60 at least 40 of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9066">TS</a>]
02:31:08 ◼ ► are people who I would give my wallet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9068">TS</a>]
02:31:09 ◼ ► too and I general but that was like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9069">TS</a>]
02:31:12 ◼ ► general rule and then the other 20 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9072">TS</a>]
02:31:14 ◼ ► ones that either printer or Dave would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9074">TS</a>]
02:31:16 ◼ ► vouch for you know but the rule was if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9076">TS</a>]
02:31:18 ◼ ► you wanted somebody on the beta you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9078">TS</a>]
02:31:19 ◼ ► have to be someone that you would verify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9079">TS</a>]
02:31:22 ◼ ► yeah exactly and the end area at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9082">TS</a>]
02:31:26 ◼ ► of the benefit of having a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9086">TS</a>]
02:31:28 ◼ ► people on that then that only beta is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9088">TS</a>]
02:31:30 ◼ ► fairly small it's a really dimension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9090">TS</a>]
02:31:32 ◼ ► returns so yeah it's fine so anyway I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9092">TS</a>]
02:31:35 ◼ ► fix all the bugs in a release that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9095">TS</a>]
02:31:37 ◼ ► through today i created one also major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9097">TS</a>]
02:31:40 ◼ ► bug during that release which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9100">TS</a>]
02:31:42 ◼ ► now you can't create a new playlist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9102">TS</a>]
02:31:44 ◼ ► anymore so I have to fix that but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9104">TS</a>]
02:31:48 ◼ ► is besides those things that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9108">TS</a>]
02:31:51 ◼ ► been great and you know the server's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9111">TS</a>]
02:31:52 ◼ ► haven't collapsed or anything you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9112">TS</a>]
02:31:54 ◼ ► everything's pretty stable there so I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9114">TS</a>]
02:31:57 ◼ ► so far so good i uncovered that bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9117">TS</a>]
02:31:59 ◼ ► while we were talking about this earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9119">TS</a>]
02:32:00 ◼ ► and I didn't want to tell you i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9120">TS</a>]
02:32:02 ◼ ► create playlists bug yeah yeah yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9122">TS</a>]
02:32:05 ◼ ► there's no there's no save button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9125">TS</a>]
02:32:07 ◼ ► yeah that's that's a tough one yes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9127">TS</a>]
02:32:09 ◼ ► right I think you're right off probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9129">TS</a>]
02:32:11 ◼ ► I I probably the time that you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9131">TS</a>]
02:32:14 ◼ ► it might even be fixed this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9134">TS</a>]
02:32:15 ◼ ► probably gonna have to issue an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9135">TS</a>]
02:32:17 ◼ ► tomorrow to fix that one and hope it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9137">TS</a>]
02:32:19 ◼ ► gets the purview somewhat quickly i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9139">TS</a>]
02:32:20 ◼ ► kind of I feel kinda guilty putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9140">TS</a>]
02:32:22 ◼ ► through like something in a preview two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9142">TS</a>]
02:32:25 ◼ ► days in a row but I'm then I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9145">TS</a>]
02:32:28 ◼ ► they've got the wheels to turn it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9148">TS</a>]
02:32:29 ◼ ► there where that's not you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9149">TS</a>]
02:32:30 ◼ ► feel guilty it seems like they've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9150">TS</a>]
02:32:32 ◼ ► got you know they've really up up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9152">TS</a>]
02:32:35 ◼ ► I mean everything was like like I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9155">TS</a>]
02:32:37 ◼ ► requesting fast reviews like they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9157">TS</a>]
02:32:39 ◼ ► happen to be going through quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9159">TS</a>]
02:32:40 ◼ ► yeah yeah i think especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9160">TS</a>]
02:32:42 ◼ ► don't request an expedited review just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9162">TS</a>]
02:32:44 ◼ ► just fix it however often you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9164">TS</a>]
02:32:47 ◼ ► yeah and I feel like I i I'd be like put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9167">TS</a>]
02:32:50 ◼ ► on some like bad list you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9170">TS</a>]
02:32:52 ◼ ► like everyday for a while and maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9172">TS</a>]
02:32:54 ◼ ► it kept up for a very long time but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9174">TS</a>]
02:32:57 ◼ ► then it might be more like let's make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9177">TS</a>]
02:32:58 ◼ ► sure this guy isn't doing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9178">TS</a>]
02:33:00 ◼ ► yeah that's true well Marco thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9180">TS</a>]
02:33:03 ◼ ► for your time thank you everybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9183">TS</a>]
02:33:06 ◼ ► listen to your the dulcet tones of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9186">TS</a>]
02:33:08 ◼ ► voice on a very regular weekly basis at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9188">TS</a>]
02:33:11 ◼ ► ATP dot FM which is literally my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9191">TS</a>]
02:33:15 ◼ ► favorite podcast and thank you i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9195">TS</a>]
02:33:18 ◼ ► do notice that you cheat and it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9198">TS</a>]
02:33:20 ◼ ► to the top of the list in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9200">TS</a>]
02:33:22 ◼ ► overcast you would not believe how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9202">TS</a>]
02:33:26 ◼ ► people think that I mean it's not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9206">TS</a>]
02:33:31 ◼ ► of people with the night ideas because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9211">TS</a>]
02:33:34 ◼ ► the sears ide I do get the occasional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9214">TS</a>]
02:33:37 ◼ ► angry email or one star app store review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9217">TS</a>]
02:33:40 ◼ ► from people who think that the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9220">TS</a>]
02:33:44 ◼ ► reason I made overcast was to promote my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9224">TS</a>]
02:33:46 ◼ ► own podcast and that that's why it shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9226">TS</a>]
02:33:51 ◼ ► sometimes that I have hard-coded it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9231">TS</a>]
02:33:55 ◼ ► appear there was a time change the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9235">TS</a>]
02:33:57 ◼ ► of my show and triple-a talk show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9237">TS</a>]
02:34:00 ◼ ► except that I've yellowpages triple-a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9240">TS</a>]
02:34:03 ◼ ► deflection a talk show you exactly how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9243">TS</a>]
02:34:06 ◼ ► wanted to add that reminds me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9246">TS</a>]
02:34:08 ◼ ► amazing that you said that i wanted i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9248">TS</a>]
02:34:09 ◼ ► have i have some follow-up from like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9249">TS</a>]
02:34:11 ◼ ► episode 10 weeks ago on ATP you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9251">TS</a>]
02:34:13 ◼ ► haha course you work and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9253">TS</a>]
02:34:15 ◼ ► confused about a minor league baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9255">TS</a>]
02:34:19 ◼ ► and why single A&W yes triple-a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9259">TS</a>]
02:34:24 ◼ ► just mores or better and so why are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9264">TS</a>]
02:34:27 ◼ ► major leagues quadruple a if they are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9267">TS</a>]
02:34:31 ◼ ► concept it's you could think of them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9271">TS</a>]
02:34:34 ◼ ► if my whole question was like why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9274">TS</a>]
02:34:37 ◼ ► Tripoli like the top tier in videogame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9277">TS</a>]
02:34:39 ◼ ► budget terms right but like this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9279">TS</a>]
02:34:44 ◼ ► yeah i think that it's different i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9284">TS</a>]
02:34:47 ◼ ► that I don't know that's actually a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9287">TS</a>]
02:34:48 ◼ ► question on the video games i suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9288">TS</a>]
02:34:50 ◼ ► that the triple-a for video games has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9290">TS</a>]
02:34:51 ◼ ► absolutely nothing to do with baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9291">TS</a>]
02:34:53 ◼ ► that it doesn't come from baseball that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9293">TS</a>]
02:34:56 ◼ ► some other route so are their single a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9296">TS</a>]
02:35:01 ◼ ► yes they're single a which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9301">TS</a>]
02:35:04 ◼ ► regional and then double-a is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9304">TS</a>]
02:35:06 ◼ ► bit bigger triple-a is elite its people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9306">TS</a>]
02:35:09 ◼ ► most of the people on a triple-a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9309">TS</a>]
02:35:11 ◼ ► are the expected or at least have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9311">TS</a>]
02:35:15 ◼ ► potential to play Major League Baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9315">TS</a>]
02:35:17 ◼ ► and then you can think of Major League [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9317">TS</a>]
02:35:19 ◼ ► Baseball is quadruple a baseball but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9319">TS</a>]
02:35:21 ◼ ► they nobody calls it then nobody ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9321">TS</a>]
02:35:25 ◼ ► what are the Columbus Clippers I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9325">TS</a>]
02:35:27 ◼ ► idea and there's also has triple-a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9327">TS</a>]
02:35:30 ◼ ► there's all certainly affiliate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9330">TS</a>]
02:35:32 ◼ ► independent leaks which are so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9332">TS</a>]
02:35:37 ◼ ► believe it's the case i could be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9337">TS</a>]
02:35:39 ◼ ► but I believe it's the case that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9339">TS</a>]
02:35:40 ◼ ► single a double-a and triple-a team is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9340">TS</a>]
02:35:43 ◼ ► affiliated with a major league team like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9343">TS</a>]
02:35:46 ◼ ► the Yankees grown a triple-a team and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9346">TS</a>]
02:35:51 ◼ ► but then there's independent leagues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9351">TS</a>]
02:35:52 ◼ ► which aren't affiliated with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9352">TS</a>]
02:35:55 ◼ ► majorly team I think right over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9355">TS</a>]
02:35:58 ◼ ► river here in philly the Trenton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9358">TS</a>]
02:35:59 ◼ ► whatever they're called land sharks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9359">TS</a>]
02:36:01 ◼ ► rat sharks or whatever the hell they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9361">TS</a>]
02:36:03 ◼ ► called are on a on a filler and shocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9363">TS</a>]
02:36:08 ◼ ► independent team and so they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9368">TS</a>]
02:36:09 ◼ ► affiliated with a major league team so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9369">TS</a>]
02:36:12 ◼ ► but they they some of them are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9372">TS</a>]
02:36:16 ◼ ► don't single-a and some of them are even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9376">TS</a>]
02:36:18 ◼ ► like double-a they say but for the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9378">TS</a>]
02:36:20 ◼ ► part they're they're just players who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9380">TS</a>]
02:36:22 ◼ ► are having trouble getting picked up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9382">TS</a>]
02:36:23 ◼ ► a major league team anyway I figured I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9383">TS</a>]
02:36:26 ◼ ► thanks I actually I didn't realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9386">TS</a>]
02:36:28 ◼ ► that like they weren't just all triple-a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9388">TS</a>]
02:36:30 ◼ ► know like I'm seeing a like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9390">TS</a>]
02:36:33 ◼ ► are the Columbus Clippers because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9393">TS</a>]
02:36:34 ◼ ► that was my team growing up in Columbus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9394">TS</a>]
02:36:36 ◼ ► like we go there like on school field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9396">TS</a>]
02:36:38 ◼ ► trip because it costs nothing and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9398">TS</a>]
02:36:40 ◼ ► actually are triple-a apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9400">TS</a>]
02:36:42 ◼ ► associated with the Indians and then now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9402">TS</a>]
02:36:45 ◼ ► that I'm in New York the nearest team I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9405">TS</a>]
02:36:47 ◼ ► think of this car of this caliber is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9407">TS</a>]
02:36:50 ◼ ► long island ducks which are apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9410">TS</a>]
02:36:52 ◼ ► independent there in the the Liberty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9412">TS</a>]
02:36:55 ◼ ► division of the Atlantic League a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9415">TS</a>]
02:36:57 ◼ ► professional baseball which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9417">TS</a>]
02:36:58 ◼ ► affiliated with the lb acts as a parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9418">TS</a>]
02:37:01 ◼ ► I have no aa's don't have any days no a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9421">TS</a>]
02:37:05 ◼ ► it's not trend that's Camden it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9425">TS</a>]
02:37:08 ◼ ► and they were closed yeah at restaurants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9428">TS</a>]
02:37:11 ◼ ► close enough yeah yeah but that wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9431">TS</a>]
02:37:13 ◼ ► what i love about these games like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9433">TS</a>]
02:37:15 ◼ ► don't you know I I wish I cared about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9435">TS</a>]
02:37:16 ◼ ► support i really do because i like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9436">TS</a>]
02:37:19 ◼ ► know the rules all the games i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9439">TS</a>]
02:37:20 ◼ ► care what the teams and so I don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9440">TS</a>]
02:37:23 ◼ ► into it but like I i like the experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9443">TS</a>]
02:37:26 ◼ ► of seeing game in person with friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9446">TS</a>]
02:37:29 ◼ ► who care about like that so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9449">TS</a>]
02:37:30 ◼ ► nice thing to do and so I love triple-a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9450">TS</a>]
02:37:32 ◼ ► baseball because you can go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9452">TS</a>]
02:37:34 ◼ ► stadiums with basically no advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9454">TS</a>]
02:37:36 ◼ ► notice whatsoever you can get amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9456">TS</a>]
02:37:38 ◼ ► seats for almost no money and you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9458">TS</a>]
02:37:41 ◼ ► have a really good time and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9461">TS</a>]
02:37:42 ◼ ► watch a game with great seats and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9462">TS</a>]
02:37:44 ◼ ► everything and you know the food is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9464">TS</a>]
02:37:46 ◼ ► absorbent and were relatively speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9466">TS</a>]
02:37:49 ◼ ► and you know you can just have a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9469">TS</a>]
02:37:50 ◼ ► nice time and it's much less of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9470">TS</a>]
02:37:53 ◼ ► ordeal and much less expensive and much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9473">TS</a>]
02:37:54 ◼ ► better quality of like you know your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9474">TS</a>]
02:37:57 ◼ ► compared to a major league game as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9477">TS</a>]
02:38:00 ◼ ► as you don't care about teams which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9480">TS</a>]
02:38:06 ◼ ► riversharks I've got to see them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9486">TS</a>]
02:38:07 ◼ ► couple times with jonas and you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9487">TS</a>]
02:38:08 ◼ ► in for like three bucks and keeps the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9488">TS</a>]
02:38:10 ◼ ► front row and then you can it's even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9490">TS</a>]
02:38:12 ◼ ► cooler if the kids are you know like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9492">TS</a>]
02:38:14 ◼ ► younger age you know like when Jonas was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9494">TS</a>]
02:38:16 ◼ ► playing Little League when he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9496">TS</a>]
02:38:17 ◼ ► little younger because then you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9497">TS</a>]
02:38:19 ◼ ► after the game and get autographs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9499">TS</a>]
02:38:22 ◼ ► yeah seems super cool it's like holy cow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9502">TS</a>]
02:38:25 ◼ ► professional baseball at 15 minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9505">TS</a>]
02:38:28 ◼ ► you can't get that a major here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9508">TS</a>]
02:38:31 ◼ ► quarry answer wire big-budget games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9511">TS</a>]
02:38:32 ◼ ► called triple-a this seems this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9512">TS</a>]
02:38:35 ◼ ► pretty credible I mean although i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9515">TS</a>]
02:38:36 ◼ ► always the best way back in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9516">TS</a>]
02:38:39 ◼ ► games games it all days studios had a B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9519">TS</a>]
02:38:42 ◼ ► and C titles in the catalog a games were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9522">TS</a>]
02:38:44 ◼ ► made in house with your developers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9524">TS</a>]
02:38:46 ◼ ► they were your main products the be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9526">TS</a>]
02:38:48 ◼ ► titles were either add-on content for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9528">TS</a>]
02:38:50 ◼ ► your A titles or new but slightly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9530">TS</a>]
02:38:53 ◼ ► humble games created by third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9533">TS</a>]
02:38:54 ◼ ► developers that you would specify and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9534">TS</a>]
02:38:57 ◼ ► then see titles were the older classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9537">TS</a>]
02:38:59 ◼ ► sku is now reduced to a value price or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9539">TS</a>]
02:39:02 ◼ ► small games people brought in a nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9542">TS</a>]
02:39:04 ◼ ► finished state to be published even non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9544">TS</a>]
02:39:07 ◼ ► game add-ons like screensavers and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9547">TS</a>]
02:39:10 ◼ ► like that and of course the industry is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9550">TS</a>]
02:39:12 ◼ ► full of hyperbole and bluster so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9552">TS</a>]
02:39:13 ◼ ► everything was new was bigger and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9553">TS</a>]
02:39:17 ◼ ► eventually began to be described as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9557">TS</a>]
02:39:19 ◼ ► double-a to emphasize or a plus to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9559">TS</a>]
02:39:22 ◼ ► emphasize that they were even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9562">TS</a>]
02:39:24 ◼ ► than a games and it wasn't long until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9564">TS</a>]
02:39:28 ◼ ► Jan just like the number of blades in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9568">TS</a>]
02:39:30 ◼ ► disposable razors watch for 58 games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9570">TS</a>]
02:39:35 ◼ ► Andrea dancer and I find that to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9575">TS</a>]
02:39:37 ◼ ► good answer a B and C and then it went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9577">TS</a>]
02:39:40 ◼ ► to double-a just 22 plus it up a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9580">TS</a>]
02:39:43 ◼ ► bit that's probably how minor league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9583">TS</a>]
02:39:46 ◼ ► baseball got it to probably used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9586">TS</a>]
02:39:48 ◼ ► the same thing and then they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9588">TS</a>]
02:39:50 ◼ ► have like a better team and it's a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9590">TS</a>]
02:39:51 ◼ ► i will leave that as your homework this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+BtuzZ7Hag/9591">TS</a>]