Cortex

00:00:00 ◼   ► we have a secret we have a secret that [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► we've kept from our listeners gray we do [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► it's not a big scandal I should be [TS]

00:00:07 ◼   ► should we'd make it out to be a scandal [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► no that's no that's no that's asking for [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► trouble okay no scam that's asking for [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► trouble no but we do have a secret the [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► last two episodes of cortex were [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► recorded back to bank mmm they were we [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► are optimizing we were trying to [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► optimize right trying to improve our [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► work clothes all about were clear [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► improvement on this show hmm so we [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► recorded two episodes back to back now [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► why did we do this you should be great I [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► feel like you are trying to blame this [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► all on me Mike I know I really looking [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► for your insight into why we would [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► undertake an experiment of this of this [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► nature let's just say this is part of [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► gray industries attempts at doing some [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► experiments in time reorganization over [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► 2017 perhaps one could say redirecting [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► how time is spent in ways big and in [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► ways small so this this was a thing that [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► we decided to try and what I was very [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► curious to see is if anybody would [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► notice if there was any suspicion not [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► one person and he comes in the reddit [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► nothing and i have to say i was i was [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► pleased because to me listening to that [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► show the second show that we recorded [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► immediately after recording the first [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► one I just kept thinking oh it's so [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► obvious it's so obvious that this is [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► recorded immediately after we make no [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► reference to anything that's happened in [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► time there were a few sections in there [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► that I thought were a little weird we [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► didn't follow up at all on the previous [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► show and the previous show I think was a [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► show that kind of begged for some [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► follow-up like more than maybe any other [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► show that we have ever done I'm really [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► really begged for some kind of [TS]

00:01:56 ◼   ► acknowledgment of like kind words from [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► people but like no there was nothing [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► because we immediately recorded it after [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► the very first one and I have to say I [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► was pretty pleased that nobody nobody [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► caught us in the act of a double [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► recording now I'll say this all the [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► people that are gonna pop up in the [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► reddit thread and be [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► like oh I knew it I don't believe any of [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► you not wanna be ya now feller leave you [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► don't believe me cuz why didn't you say [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► it don't believe you okay III don't [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► believe it either it's one it's like a [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► cognitive bias that is occurring that [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► you're now going to remember that you [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► thought it was obviously recorded at the [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► same time but you didn't say anything [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► it's like if you change bit rates on [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► podcasts and people like oh I could [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► totally tell but they don't say anything [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► until after you've done it yeah I've [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► been in that situation yeah he you up [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► the bitrate no one complains no one [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► notices but if you tell them in advance [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► you'll hear howls of protest over there [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► download limits on their cellular plans [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► or whatever howdy yeah exactly how dare [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► you uh but yeah so I think it was an [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► interesting experiment the fact that [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► nobody noticed I think makes it [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► essentially a success yeah and I felt [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► that it came out well as well I think we [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► were above concerned that the episode [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► wouldn't be very good because obviously [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► it's like a mammoth recording session [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► mm-hmm but I was I was pleased with with [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► the output it did come out much better [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► than I expected and i also think we were [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► doing it under the worst of all possible [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► circumstances that we were recording a [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► relatively serious first episode and [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► then transitioning into a much more [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► normal second episode and i did really [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► feel in that second recording like I was [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► not quite on the ball and looking [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► looking back on it when i was doing one [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► of the pass-through edits on it i could [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► hear myself not explaining things as [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► well as i might imagine that a fresh me [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► would have explained those things but i [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► could be wrong about that because i'm [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► always amazed by when i listened back to [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► myself on a podcast how poorly i think [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► previous me explained the ideas in his [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► head this is a regular occurrence for [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► you you always feel like you never do a [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► good enough job but just pushes you to [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► be better and better every time you know [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► do you not have that Mike when you [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► listen back to the show you don't have [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► this experience of feeling like who is [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► this idiot trying to explain things [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► doesn't bother me okay but do you feel [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► it at all are you aware that you do a [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► poor job of explaining your idea I don't [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► have as many ideas to explain you know [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► so I don't really worry about it too [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► much it doesn't bother me it doesn't [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► bother me because I'm very aware of the [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► constraints that we're in I prepare as [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► much as I prepare but I know that every [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► now and then we're just gonna talk [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► instantaneously for a while not try not [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► to be too hot myself your perfectionist [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► this your problem I I disagree with that [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► I'm not a perfectionist I would just [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► prefer that I explain things much better [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► than I actually do I'm not a [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► perfectionist I just wish it was perfect [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► that's all I care about well I mean if [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► we're getting into wishing territory yes [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► of course if I have a if I have a bucket [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► full of wishes over here that I can use [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► then yes let's make things perfect but [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► actual perfection requires infinite [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► effort which I'm not willing to expend [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► but anyway put in putting all of that [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► aside I think even under non ideal [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► circumstances I think it came out pretty [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► well and so I would regard this [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► experiment as a win so we're not talking [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► about this purely so we can have like a [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► gotcha moment over the audience there is [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► a there's a solid reason for this which [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► is that it takes us a long time to [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► record these episodes we have currently [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► been on the phone for 90 minutes have we [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► yeah because it takes us a long time to [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► get ourselves ready to actually record [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► this is true by the time we have [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► completed our boot up sequence and [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► pre-flight check lists so if we record [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► two episodes back to back in theory it [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► is less time spent overall in recording [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► the episodes so that's kind of like the [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► idea of why are we doing this we're not [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► going to record every episode like this [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► but it's what the reason that we're [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► doing this is it gives us more [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► flexibility to put episodes out more [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► consistently especially as you are [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► looking at the way that you spend your [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► time more analytically and more closely [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► this year so it is a way for us to see [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► if like if we're under a time constraint [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► can we still get episodes out with [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► frequency in a way we could do that is [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► by banking them more often yeah that's [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► that's what we're looking at is there [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► are some points in the year where it's [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► going to be more difficult to record on [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► a bi-weekly schedule and so we wanted to [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► see if this was even possible to do or [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► if it turned out just to be too [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► exhausting to try to do two episodes [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► back to back and it's interesting to [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► think about this in terms of any other [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► kind of work late I am really aware that [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► any day that I'm recording a podcast is [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► a is a very different day in my mind [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► there's there's a meeting essentially [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► that's taking place later in the day and [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► so I'm always aware in the morning like [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► there's there's this sort of constraint [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► that whatever I'm doing it means to wrap [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► up by a certain time because there's [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► this meeting that's taking place that [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► that there needs to be recording for and [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► so that always kind of limits the [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► potential activities that can be done on [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► that day and then there are always [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► things like like you said we have this [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► whole process of getting ready to record [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► the podcast sort of chatting about stuff [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► ahead of time go running through the [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► show notes doing all of this other kinds [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► of things and so doing to it once is a [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► bit like any other batch processing of [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► work that occurs then that I feel like [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► like batch processing is maybe one of [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► the very first things about being [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► productive that I really learned a long [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► time ago and like the pre getting things [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► done world which is like do similar [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► tasks together at the same time don't [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► don't switch between lots of different [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► tasks do similar things together and so [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► this idea of recording two shows at once [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► feels like that and you get all of these [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► little savings of on a single day where [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► you have a meeting you get two shows [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► instead of one or like even just today [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► for some reason like my audio equipment [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► wasn't working quite right and have to [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► fuss with it for a little bit it's like [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► great one futzing with audio equipment [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► gets you two shows out the other end so [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► I think there's a big win in being able [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► to do something like this again because [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► it was very exhausting it's not a thing [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► that I plan to do every single time with [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► no but it is great to know that we have [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► it when we need it as an option yeah [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► that it's that it is there in lieu of a [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► time when there wouldn't be a show that [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► this is a thing that we can possibly do [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► when I was working in marketing [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► there was like an eye-opening moment for [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► me like went well and part of my job was [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► dealing with getting things printed [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► something getting things printed to [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► Center people Lou and the surprise for [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► me was in the fact that the amount of [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► things that you need printed didn't [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► change the cost equally right you could [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► have a hundred thousand things printed [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► and maybe that cost ten thousand pounds [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► but if you wanted two hundred thousand [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► it might be twelve thousand pounds right [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► right and it was always very confusing [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► to me it's like what there's more of [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► them and it's because I quickly found [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► out that so much of the cost is in [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► turning the machines on right right once [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► the machines are on and the plates are [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► printed for the likes of the things can [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► be stamped out or things can be inked [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► that's where a lot of the cost is going [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► so it is in the startup costs and [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► everything else from there is cheaper so [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► it's like a similar way for us it's like [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► by the time we get everything out the [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► way that is a big chunk of the time and [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► then the rest is just what ends up [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► getting put out but we only need to do [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► that once if we record two episodes so [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► that you know so that that was part of [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► like a realization for me which I've [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► kind of carried over into this work and [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► something that's important to me is that [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► there is there is an opportunity for the [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► for the show quality to decrease if we [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► do this right so there's a lot of work [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► that we're doing on the other end to [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► make it work you know and like there's [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► one thing that I've been thinking about [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► more like themed episodes and these [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► little standalone units that we can [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► release that will still be very [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► interesting but can live on their own a [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► little bit more than some other ever [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► episodes like we have done a couple of [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► episodes out of time now right like but [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► it was like an out of time and out of [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► time two out of time out time out they [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► were they were consciously made like [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► that and I'm kind of running some ideas [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► through my head that if we want to do [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► this a couple of times this year how can [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► those episodes be a little bit more [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► interesting and special than just a [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► regular episode so there is definitely [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► thought into it and really this is about [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► us ensuring that we can make sure it's [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► more often or at least not more often [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► but more often than we'd be able to do [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► if we didn't do this right yes really [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► they'll probably be less episodes this [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► year but if you didn't do it this way [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► there be even less so listeners [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► listeners to pull back the curtain just [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► a little bit here right this is this is [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► also part of a negotiation about how [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► many episodes are there go [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► to be over the course of the year where [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► I don't want no episodes and Grey's like [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► please please can we do some and I'm [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► like no and so that that's kind of how [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► it's been going you know yeah it is true [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► as you would imagine it's that's the way [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► it's going yeah I was I was attempting [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► to make the show bi-weekly in the sense [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► of twice a week but Mike was simply [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► unwilling to commit to that I'm like can [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► we do to a year right yeah that's so [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► we've had to come to some kind of [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► agreement between the two of us it's [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► been really tough has been really all we [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► got there you know yeah we had a bunch [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► of CEO to CEO conversations and we got [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► there like grown-ups today's episode of [TS]

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00:12:56 ◼   ► savings directly to you the consumer and [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► that's why they can offer great prices [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► because they don't have to deal with all [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► the infrastructure that is used to [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► dealing with this type of product buying [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► a cash-flow mattress is completely [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► risk-free they offer free delivery and [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► free returns to the US Canada and now [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► the UK to with a 100 night home trial if [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► you don't love it [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► get up a refund you everything buying [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► something like mattress online seems [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► like a peculiar thing based on how we've [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► been used to buying mattresses but you [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► shouldn't have to worry about this [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► Casper understands the importance of [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► sleeping on a mattress before you commit [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► so consider you going to be found in [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► such a long time of your life on it they [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► want you to have it at home have it in [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► your bed have it with your duvet and [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► your sheets in your pillows and they [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► want you to feel comfortable in it spend [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► some time on it make sure that your [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► partner's happy with it as well they [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► want to know that this is a perfect [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► product for you so they give you 100 [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► nights so you could try for yourself you [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► can get fifty dollars or fifty pounds [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► towards any mattress purchase by [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► visiting Casper calm / cortex and using [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► the code cortex terms like addition to [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► ply please see the site for details [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► thank you so much to Casper for their [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► support of this show many people have [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► asked me to share more about to doest we [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► made reference to it last time about me [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► moving to todoist as part of our burning [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► down the tasks before I get to that I [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► will ask you for for an update on your [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► task management situation is there a [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► task management although there is one [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► yet ya know I am I am a leaf on the wind [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► ah just taking life as it comes right [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► now huh yeah yeah oh it's actually no no [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► it's not nice oh well no system I don't [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► have a system wells a long time ago now [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► we spoke about this yeah i'm i am still [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► I'm still doing this thing where I'm a [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► bit playing around with and and just [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► being very informal and it's an [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► interesting thing because talking to [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► people in my life again everybody else [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► is coming from the perspective of oh [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► this is how this is how normal people [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► live that you just sort of know the [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► things that you need to do maybe you [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► write a few of them down but you don't [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► have a real system for keeping track of [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► absolutely everything that is watertight [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► under all circumstances and I I simply [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► don't understand how people can possibly [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► live like that because I'm trying to [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► figure out how to work [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► in the future which is just turning into [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► a much bigger project than I initially [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► expected but not having a current system [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► in place that is what I want it to be I [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► i find it somewhat somewhat [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► anxiety-inducing i am very aware of my [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► brain burning calories thinking about [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► stuff that i know it like this is the [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► whole thing that my previous system got [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► rid of is the like I don't have to worry [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► about anything because I just know where [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► everything is going to be and that that [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► is no longer the case so I'm aware that [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► my brain wants to be more anxious than [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► it normally than it normally would be [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► but I'm viewing this as an investment [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► that is worth making in trying to [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► refigure out what it is that I want to [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► do but so no I don't have a like Oh F [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► I've come down from the mountain with [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► some answers and and I may I may never [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► well do that i may just end up creating [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► some squirrely thing that is is just for [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► me the way i want it to work but i can [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► say it's been kind of interesting living [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► like a Normie i guess for the past few [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► months uh yeah it's been interesting [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► it's been an interesting thing not [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► completely no more though I mean you [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► didn't fire your assistant or anything [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► you know you're not a Normie gray [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► someone's picking up the bread crumbs [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► that you're dropping yes that is that is [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► definitely true that someone is picking [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► up the bread comes that I'm dropping and [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► related to that the one the one change [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► that I have made which I can report on [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► which it relates to this very section is [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► that I have moved from Wunderlist with [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► my assistant to todoist oh so I do have [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► some todoist experience in this [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► conversation but we have we have [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► switched our collaboration tool and I'll [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► just say for vastly better it's a big [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► it's a big improvement and so that is [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► that is one thing that has definitely [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► happened that is interesting so what are [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► your experiences with Steaua Smike so I [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► want to talk about a few a few aspects [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► of it so some of them are the things [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► that make to do a superior and some of [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► them the more tricky for me as a [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► previous OmniFocus user so the key [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► reason that I decided I wanted to make [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► this move which I have spoken about [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► spoke about it on the last episode is [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► the integrations but now I have more [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► time to play with them what makes [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► todoist interesting to me is that [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► todoist has a fundamental understanding [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► of the web there is an API there is a [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► web version of todoist and it is the [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► fact that it has this understanding of [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► kind of modern automation conventions [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► and stuff like that that is appealing to [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► me omnifocus is very shut off from the [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► rest of the world we spent a lot of time [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► talking about it in the past like how [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► excited we were when we could finally [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► have templates and that they could be [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► code for OmniFocus so we could do things [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► with it from other applications but it's [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► still on device everything is happening [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► on device and you have to ask OmniFocus [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► to do something or plug something into [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► it but to do 'used things can happen in [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► the background you can have tasks added [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► by services where you've never even [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► opened todoist only I have a workflow [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► which I'll put in the show notes which i [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► can run from anywhere on iOS i can add [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► links to it i can add i can at times i [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► can add notes and to do it is never [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► opened everything is just done in the [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► workflow app from wherever i want to do [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► it on the system and the task is added [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► in the background because it's added [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► wired to do is say P I hmm there are [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► other things that I have hooked up so [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► some web automation tools like zapier [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► and IFTTT they're able to add things so [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► I'm still digging around with zappia and [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► I want to spend more time talking about [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► this service specifically in the future [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► because it is like Charlie and the [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► Chocolate Factory this service is just [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► incredible like I've built some some [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► zaps as they call them which are doing [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► things that I've wanted for so long like [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► new we use fresh books for our invoicing [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► at relay FM and I now have the ability [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► in our in a slack channel to see every [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► time one of those people that we invoice [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► when the responses that we work of every [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► time they they log in [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► and do something in freshbooks [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► FreshBooks knows this we're now using [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► zappia that information is piped into [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► our slack so we're able to see every [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► time somebody logs in and looks at an [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► invoice without ever being in freshbooks [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► zapier is allowing that for us yeah [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► really allows you to connect a whole [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► bunch of stuff like if you ever used if [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► this then that and then you look at [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► zapier like I've been trying to slowly [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► transition all the stuff that i have in [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► if this then that to over to zapier [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► because it's so much more powerful and [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► when using zapier it makes you know as [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► apiaries is like like a constructor set [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► where you can build all kinds of things [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► and it makes if this then that look like [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► it's duplo yeah like what does those [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► lego blocks that are for real babies [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► like a gigantic Lego blocks that's what [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► it is okay that's what it feels like [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► you've got like the Lego stuff [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► mindstorms right like the stuff that you [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► can actually build robots with us [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► overruns a beer and then you've got your [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► little little fisher-price I have TTP [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► over there in the corner IFTTT is great [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► for for getting your feet wet with this [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► stuff but like the great thing about [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► zappia is like you can have one action [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► trigger things in multiple other web [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► services right there are multiple stages [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► you can build is really very powerful [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► yeah and what I also like is that you [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► can you can do the thing which I've [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► wanted if this and that to do for [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► forever which is have a some very basic [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► logic operators like if this occurs and [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► also these filtering conditions match [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► then do the thing I think that's you [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► know just even just the tiniest amount [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► of that makes it makes it so much more [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► powerful so I've got to recommend that [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► people try out say p ER and just as a [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► little as a little sidebar here i feel [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► like in my past couple months of [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► exploring with stuff really ever since i [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► started with using toggle and their api [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► for doing the time tracking i feel like [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► i've had my eyes open to this whole [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► world that i have been intentionally [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► avoiding yep me too buddy yeah which is [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► like this this whole world of web AP is [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► and I had a real moment of realizing I [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► need to learn a new skill here I [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► mentioned on two shows ago or whatever [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► was last show an amount of shows in the [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► past and amount of shows ago because of [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► because of the recording that I was that [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► I was playing around with Trello as as a [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► way to just visually move around work [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► and i'm really liking Trello like it's [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► it's an interesting way to just look at [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► some stuff and Trello is like zapier [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► like like slack like toggle like all [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► these things it has a Web API l yeah and [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► so I was playing around with the NS as [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► inevitably would happen anytime i'm [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► working with the tool eventually I [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► realize oh there are some things that I [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► would want to enter the same way all the [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► time if i was using this looks like here [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► we go like you're starting to build up [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► some kind of template right and i was [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► playing around and with workflow and [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► looking and seeing oh how can i get the [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► workflow app to automatically add a [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► bunch of cards to Trello if I want to [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► trigger a thing all right and I was [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► disappointed because in the workflow app [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► there's only a few options for what [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► kinds of information you can add to a [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► Trello card where it can go it's [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► relatively limited and it was this [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► moment it dawned on me I thought wait a [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► minute but what is the workflow app [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► doing it must be talking to some kind of [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► toggle API that exists out there on the [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► web and so I googled around and [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► eventually found it and I realized oh [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► okay Trello has an API where you can [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► affect everything about the cards like [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► literally everything is available there [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► and then I suddenly realized ah ok all [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► of these apps are doing the same thing [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► they're using web URLs and the public [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► API is to talk to each other and this is [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► a thing that I need to seriously sit [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► down and learn as a skill because if I [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► learn this skill then I'm not dependent [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► on the workflow app guys making a little [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► premade template that's easy for me to [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► use it's like no no I can just program [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► the thing directly to talk to the web [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► api's and I feel like that was the [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► moment I realize like this is what a lot [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► of [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► modern automation particularly on a [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► device like an iPad is going to look [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► like and I think that that was just a [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► real realization that I feel like I've [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► had in the past couple months like okay [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► this Web API world like this is way more [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► powerful than I ever gave it credit for [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► and I always used to be prioritizing [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► apps that could work on an airplane that [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► would work in offline mode where I [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► wouldn't have to connect to any kind of [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► web service but I think something has [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► shifted in my mind to finally really [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► understanding the value of these things [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► yep like if I am using a tool that has [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► an impact on my work my feeling now is [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► it has to have an API because I am fed [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► up of giving this data to a system which [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► keeps it mmm because there is no reason [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► for that to happen anymore I should be [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► able to tidy things together and I am [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► not close to what you're doing in the [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► level that which I'm doing this but I'm [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► getting interested and so that's and [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► I've started doing things where like [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► I've had a problem that I wanted to [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► solve and i am now like in the mindset [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► of like why don't I try and build a [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► thing hmm and I've been doing that with [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► some with some work flows like their [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► I've I've been able to build some [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► workflows now which I would have [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► previously just continued doing things [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► the same way and these services are [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► becoming more and more important for me [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► as I continue to do my work due to [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► optimize and with something we're gonna [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► talk about later on the show with hiring [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► an assistant is only going to become [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► more important because I will have [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► things now that will be entered by [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► somebody else into a system mmm right [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► and there could be a case where I'm like [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► why doesn't this stuff just come to me [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► instead of me going to get it and web [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► automation and web integrations will be [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► the API is will be what allows all that [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► stuff to be pulled together in an [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► interesting way so this is where I want [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► to go now like I have all of this data [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► that I give two systems I want these [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► systems to be able to talk to each other [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► if I want them to and I do I said what [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► you're doing here i think is [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► it's such a valuable skill to understand [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► like just it's not programming like [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► you're not a programmer here no way but [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► this this kind of thing where you you [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► learn and you realize how to make the [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► machine do something on its own or how [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► to make the different machines talk to [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► each other this this kind of very very [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► basic you know programming ultralight [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► kind of thing that an app like workflow [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► allows or something like JP er allows [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► you to do by visually rearranging [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► objects I think this is such an [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► incredibly valuable skill if you have [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► never messed around with one of these [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► kind of systems I think it's hugely [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► valuable to just just try and just play [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► around with a little bit just to get it [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► into your mind that there may be [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► something you're doing that with a [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► little bit of effort you can make [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► automatic or vastly vastly simpler and [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► once you get that hook in your brain you [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► can you can really improve a lot of the [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► way use you do things on computing [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► devices of all kinds but I just happen [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► to think like the workflow app in [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► particular is a great example of [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► visually rearranging stuff and there [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► seems to be a bunch more tools like like [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► zapier that are doing this kind of thing [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► of allowing you to visually rearrange [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► stuff even if you don't want to do the [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► thing that I'm trying to do which is [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► like dig into like how is this JSON [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► object structure like you don't need to [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► go that far just just knowing the basics [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► already makes a huge difference it is [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► these visual services that's helping me [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► understand it right like I've tweaked [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► things in some of my work flows which [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► are like real API stuff like I've messed [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► around in the code but it's because the [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► wrapper around it is helping me [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► understand the context of the thing yeah [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► so like I'm able to kind of work it out [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► in my brain with little knowledge was I [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► be like oh it's this step which is got [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► this code in it and this step isn't [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► working the way I want it to so let me [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► look at this and if this stuff written [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► well enough someone like me can can have [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► an idea of understanding it and also [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► playing with it and whilst we're in this [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► engine I've been thinking about this a [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► lot recently well like you spend hours [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► building this stuff right does it pay [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► off in the long run right this is a [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► question that I think a lot of people [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► have is like you've just spent four [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► hours building this workflow with trial [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► and error and all it's doing is saving [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► you 30 seconds every single time how [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► long is it going to take to for that to [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► pay off and the realization that I've [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► come to is it's not about the time it's [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► about the frustration yes yes it is [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► about me pressing one button to do a [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► thing rather than opening two apps and [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► then doing two things and type in this [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► thing in here and pressing send here [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► it's about pressing a button and just [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► having it done and it is the the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► combination of the fun of building thing [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► and having the sense of accomplishment [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► of doing it and then every subsequent [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► time benefiting from that work that you [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► paid in and just making it feel like [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► your work is happening more smoothly it [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► doesn't matter to me if I'm saving time [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► that's not a thing it's about the [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► comfort of my work yeah there's also [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► another aspect to this which i think is [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► underappreciated but when you when you [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► automate something you end up making it [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► much easier to do that thing and so like [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► for example with the time tracking but [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► like the whole reason that I'm able to [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► do this seasonal experiment that I'm [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► doing of trying to track absolutely [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► everything is entirely because [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► automation allows the tracking to be as [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► simple as possible yep if I wasn't able [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► to use workflow from the notification [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► center from my watch to trigger the [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► toggle stuff if I was having to open the [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► toggle app or go to the toggle website [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► every time I wouldn't be doing this [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► wouldn't be doing exactly wouldn't what [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► exactly this would never had I'm still [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► using this for every task I do I'm still [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► finding it very useful like this feels [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► like just part of my work now but if I [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► had the friction of needing to open a [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► specific thing every time as opposed to [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► just like pulling down and pressing two [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► buttons it wouldn't be doing it yeah [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► it's that's one of the things that [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► automation gets you is it's a bit like I [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► forget the name of it but in a like in [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► economics when the price of a resource [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► dramatically [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► drops you end up using so much more of [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► it and it allows you to do more things [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► and it's not like oh the price of copper [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► is dropped like are you like yes we're [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► going to use more copper that's the [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► whole point right like we can now do [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► more things than we could do before [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► again it's funny you mentioned on the [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► watch like I'm so where there's a couple [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► of instances where being able to use the [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► workflow app from the watch in a couple [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► of situations means I'm able to very [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► easily track some time than I wouldn't [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► otherwise like in particular when I'm [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► reading at night like I'm reading the [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► book and my phone is charging in the [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► other room it's not in the same room [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► that I sleep and I can just very quickly [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► like press a button and then as i'm [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► going to bed just say like i'm done [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► reading stop the clock like the days [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► over and the little workflow app just [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► automatically does that thing whereas [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► otherwise I wouldn't be tracking my [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► reading time at night if it meant that I [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► had to get up and go use another device [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► that I don't want around me while I'm [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► reading at night like it's just it's [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► it's really great to be able to do that [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► kind of stuff like I wish I always kind [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► of feel like when people dismiss [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► automation it's it's been like I don't [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► think you understand what's actually [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► happening I think there's an idea in [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► your head of people spending hours and [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► hours automating some system for no [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► benefits but you're you're only looking [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► at the benefit in a very very narrow way [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► plus there's also just the skill of [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► learning how to do this kind of thing [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► and then being able to apply it to other [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► stuff I'm honestly considering this is [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► like a hobby mmm and one of my hobbies [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► now is tinkering of automation because I [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► find it fun I just guess I love the [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► feeling of like yes I did it like I did [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► it you know and that's that's that feels [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► good so going back to todoist right so [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► this this is like the biggest reason [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► that I made this move and there are a [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► couple of things and take advantage of [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► right now which I really like one of [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► them is having zapier or ifttt they can [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► both do this watch a google calendar and [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► add tasks based on events that trigger [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► so a practical application of this for [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► me is every time it sees a podcast [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► recording on my calendar it adds a task [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► to edit that show [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► hmm very simple right but it can do all [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► of that stuff for me and I think to [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► myself in the future of like the ways [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► that I could do this of like having this [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► stuff then going to toggle and like how [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► can all that work together and these all [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► these things can just trigger on their [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► own right so because I I still press [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► some buttons every time I sit down to [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► record I don't need to do that toggle [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► could just start at the same time right [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► because their calendar events I'm gonna [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► be here two o'clock right Friday or [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► whatever so toggle ways more just may as [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► well to start on its own it's like there [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► are little things that I know how I want [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► to build from them another one is an [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► integration which to do is build for [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► slack so I can be in slack and I can [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► type forward slash todoist and I can [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► just type in a task i can type in a due [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► date labels and projects and it just [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► gets added nobody sees it I just type it [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► i press enter it says yep the tasks in [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► there so this is like somebody's asking [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► me and slack to do something and I never [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► even leave slack oh so you can you don't [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► have to talk to the slack pot to do this [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► you can just like if you're in a general [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► chat room you can just do this yep oh [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► that's very interesting yep it's an [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► integration that to do is built so i can [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► be talking to stephen and he's like Oh [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► could you take a look at that invoice [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► for me later on and I could just type in [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► take a look at the invoice at two [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► o'clock and press ENTER and then just [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► added beautiful that's very nice [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► beautiful that's pretty nice so these [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► this is the main the biggest reason i [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► made this shift because as much as i [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► have loved using OmniFocus i think it's [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► very clear they're never gonna add this [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► but even if they're going to add it it's [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► gonna take longer for them to add this [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► then I'm willing to wait I'm at the [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► point now where I'm starting the value [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► this stuff a little bit more than losing [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► some of the features and there are [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► features not I'm losing there are things [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► that annoy me about to do is there are [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► things I wish it did better and there [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► are things that I wish it more like [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► OmniFocus which is kind of not fair but [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► I have those wishes and yeah that's [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► totally not fair because that's you know [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► that so like the things that annoy me [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► about it things I think aren't being [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► done right is one thing and then there [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► are just things i think they wish they [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► did more like OmniFocus which is like [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► you know that's not fair to wish I [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► humbly so one thing that I mrs. [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► OmniFocus is forecast view because it [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► became so important for me so it was [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► just his view in OmniFocus which gave me [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► a can [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► under and on the calendar days it showed [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► me how many tasks during each day and [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► that just gave me at a glance how busy [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► my week was mm-hmm to do is doesn't [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► really have this at all like they have a [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► next seven days which i'm using but all [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► it does is just shows a list of all of [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► the tasks for the next seven days you [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► get no counters choose a base on counter [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► right like I'd see like 7 12 on monday [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► nine times on Tuesday two tasks and went [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► de great i can move stuff to wednesday [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► because wednesday is not busy but now I [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► kind of just have to look at this list [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► and that's it doesn't really work for me [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► so well something to do is has which I [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► do kind of think is interesting and is [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► working for me more is when you got to [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► reschedule something it uses machine [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► learning to tell you when your busiest [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► that your least busy days will be so you [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► can move stuff too so it makes [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► recommendations and that's really cool [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► writes another thing about the data is [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► like it's it knows that like either by [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► trends or just by like what my average [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► task usage is a day like how many tasks [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► I'm check enough it can recommend days [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► in the future where I'm not so busy to [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► move stuff so I think that's really cool [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► yeah I think that's an interesting an [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► interesting example of again having the [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► dated done differently like the machine [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► can recommend things to you yeah in in [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► an open way and I've ever say like I was [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► curious when I saw that with to do us [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► now the way that i am using it which is [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► primarily as a communication tool [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► between my assistant i like that's [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► that's not really a practical thing but [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► i think it shows that an interesting [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► direction yeah we're how can this stuff [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► go like and I know that that's going to [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► get better for me over time the more [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► data i'm plugging into this the better [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► that suggestions gonna get right and it [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► so that's like a long game that I'm [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► playing with it but I do miss just not [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► just because my system had kind of been [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► built around this idea of looking at the [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► numbers mm-hmm but now now that I don't [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► have that like I'm starting to think to [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► myself like was this actually really a [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► good system mm-hmm I don't think it was [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► that thought that you're having right [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► there this is the this is exactly the [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► kind of thing that I'm trying to think [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► through with everything that I've done [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► is like there there are many tools that [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► i may have relied upon but if you step [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► away from them for a while you can view [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► it with more clarity and say [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► was this or was this not actually a [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► beneficial thing and I could see like [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► you always it's interesting is when we [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► would discuss using OmniFocus that you [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► always brought up the forecast tool as [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► such a primary thing for you whereas I [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► had a different feature which is my [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► primary thing but I never looked at that [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► forecast so that was one of the things [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► that to me just I filed under totally [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► useless let seeing that I have more or [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► fewer tasks represented as a single [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► number on a day like I just never found [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► that to be a useful tool to actually [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► guide any decision-making process at all [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► it's I mean simply because like tasks [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► are of vastly varying sizes yeah so [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► seven verses three verses 20 doesn't [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► actually convey the information that you [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► think it conveys so like yeah I'm just [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► realizing that those numbers they're not [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► that hopeful um I do wish i had the [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► forecast view just because it was a nice [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► way to see where there were maybe gaps [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► right so like days and there were less [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► busy but the idea that i live to it was [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► like plus seven tasks means super busy [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► day i don't think that that is as useful [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► as i thought it was right because we'll [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► come back to the to this in a moment but [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► to doest has quite some interesting [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► reporting features and let looking at my [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► last seven days every single day i was [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► doing i'm done over seven tasks so far [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► this week but previously that meant [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► super busy day to me so right i also [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► think that what i'm doing what to do [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► 'used is I'm entering more tasks into [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► the system of OmniFocus I was [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► restricting the amount of tasks that I [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► would enter into the system because of [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► going over that number so now I'm adding [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► more stuff into the system which i think [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► is making me more productive as you [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► would assume because there are more [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► things that going in the more that goes [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► in the more that will get done or less [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► things that will get missed but now I'm [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► not in so much fear of like or can't [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► send it over seven so I think that's [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► been a is actually while I miss the [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► feature it has helped I think break a [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► bad habit what you're talking about here [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► like oh this arbitrary number of seven [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► this is I mentioned last time that I can [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► looking into scrum a little bit and I've [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► been playing around with some [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► ideas about how the system works for [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► organizing stuff and there's a couple of [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► things that I think are really valuable [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► in this and and one of them is is really [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► this this focus on trying to get an [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► estimate for how big your tasks actually [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► are and then trying to through measuring [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► your previous activities get a sense of [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► how much can I do in a day not based on [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► my feelings but based on previous data [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► and I think that that's a really [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► interesting idea and you can just see [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► how there are very many ways let like [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► this plus seven that you were running [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► into where you you can be getting a very [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► false sense of how much is on my plate [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► for the day and how much can I possibly [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► do so it's good I mean I mean I don't [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► know how to recommend to people because [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► obviously everybody systems different [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► but there is some real value in changing [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► things even if you plan to go back but [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► just as a way to help you reassess to [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► see if you've got any may be unhealthy [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► habits in your system mmm I do there was [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► a there was a problem in the system that [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► I didn't know was there this episode of [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► cortex is brought to you in part by [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► hover when you have a great idea for [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► your new startup or business or blog or [TS]

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00:41:15 ◼   ► domain name and finding that perfect [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► domain name is ridiculously easy with [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► hover when all you want to do is buy a [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► domain name or email address you [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► shouldn't have to opt out of page after [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► page of add-ons that you don't want and [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► you don't need that's why hover offers [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► only domains in email so you can focus [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► on getting a great domain name and [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► getting back to working on your idea [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► they believe you shouldn't have to pay [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► for things that should already be [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► included with your domain like who is [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► privacy which keeps all of your private [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► details safe on the internet many other [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► registrar's require that you pay for [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► such a service but not hover they think [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► that's just part of what buying a domain [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► name is however is where I always go to [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► register my domain names and it's where [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► you should too they're fantastic service [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► with a nice clean simple easy-to-use [TS]

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00:42:09 ◼   ► name for your idea goat [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► hover com / cortex and get ten percent [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► off your first purchase once again [TS]

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00:42:22 ◼   ► purchase thank you so much to hover for [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► their support of this show and all a [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► real AFM relate it to this number thing [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► there is something that's frustrating to [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► me that the the badge that to do is [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► shows on the application on iOS is just [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► a straight how many tasks you have jus [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► for the day I've really want that to be [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► over to you honestly because it kind of [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► is just a weird thing to me to be like [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► just shows the number ten like that's [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► the total amount of tasks not like total [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► amount i'll sell overdue i'm getting [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► used to this because now this is kind of [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► just giving me a rundown of how many [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► things i have left for the day which is [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► so like it's I'm again it's like a [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► change of the system but I do still [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► think that that's weird not even to have [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► that setting of being able to say like [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► how many talks are overdue as to how [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► many tasks are just do for the day I do [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► you think it's a weird choice that [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► they've made to make that just ate you [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► can't adjust this this is what it is [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► here's okay so while we have been seeing [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► the praises of AP eyes and open data my [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► my biggest complaint with using a bunch [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► of these services like to do 'used slack [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► and Trello is that they never feel like [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► they're native citizens on the operating [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► system that you're using no because they [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► try and build applications that can work [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► across systems exactly that consistent [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► that shows itself in obvious ways and [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► not obvious ways like obvious ways for [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► like for example if I'm scrolling in [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► Trello it's clearly like a web page is [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► being rendered on the screen and the [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► framerate drops like hell if I'm [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► scrolling back forth in a way that a [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► native app never would because it's [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► doing something funny or like it's so [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► hard to pin down what it is but even [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► just the way in todoist when you're [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► completing tasks or adding things like [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► it just doesn't feel like iOS because it [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► because it isn't but it also shows up [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► and I think exactly what you're talking [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► about here where there are a surprising [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► lack of options very often when you're [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► using these kinds of apps when they are [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► apps to feel they should have [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► yeah and and this is this is a perfect [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► example of it feels like what you want [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► that app badge icon to represent it [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► feels like you should have a huge array [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► of selections in here but you don't and [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► I think that is a side effect of the [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► company I think smartly trying to build [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► an app that works universally across a [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► whole bunch of platforms and so to them [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► almost any time spent on customization [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► on a particular platform is almost [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► wasted time I'm aware like what I would [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► love is a way to have that badge show [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► the number of tasks that are currently [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► assigned to me in the system up again [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► this is because i'm using it in a very [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► different way you are as a collaboration [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► between two people and that's one of [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► these cases where's like I don't have a [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► good way for that that for the app to [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► communicate to me through a little icon [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► that oh my assistant needs me to get [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► back on something related to tax [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► documentation or whatever it is today [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► like it feels like that should be an [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► option but it isn't it's not in there [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► and I will just add since you missed the [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► forecasts from OmniFocus my biggest [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► missing feature that I have to say [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► omnifocus does so well and I don't see [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► any other to-do app at all handle this [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► is the concept of start dates and I feel [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► like start dates are so integrated into [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► my mind that I like I don't understand [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► how any of these apps work with like I'm [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► een here's all I'm asking for like this [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► let's let's say I wanted to add a task [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► let's do like the simplest task in the [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► world which is like buy flowers for [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► Mother's Day right let's say something [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► like this you know and it's do you know [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► the day before Mother's Day I don't want [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► to see that task as open and uncompleted [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► for the whole year running up to mothers [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► like I want to say set the start date a [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► week before Mother's Day like don't show [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► me this task until it actually starts [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► coming up right or if there's a thing [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► that I can only do later in the day but [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► I can't do now like set the start time [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► to be later in the day and [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► omnifocus like nails this with the [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► ability to only show you tasks that you [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► can do right now and no other [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► application seems to do this very well [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► and it is the one thing that is driving [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► me kind of crazy into doest is there's [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► always a bunch of stuff that looks like [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► it's open and available but very often [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► like I can't actually make any progress [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► on this until a later point in time and [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► I wish there was a way to hide it until [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► I actually can do something about it [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► yeah I've seen people complain about [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► with other systems as well Phyllis is [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► one of those things that I don't think a [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► lot of people are thinking about now [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► like it was maybe like a pot as part of [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► a system which people don't consider I [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► don't know why but it's like I never [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► even thought oh this is like it will [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► just come up when it comes up by due [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► date like even when you want to explain [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► it to me I'm just like it's just they're [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► just you just don't see it what do you [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► mean he just don't you but you do see it [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► like you see it in the system when [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► you're looking at like the list of open [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► tasks just don't look that like hey you [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► know like I know what you're seeing is [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► that you go to the project or whatever [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► but you don't need to be in the project [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► just just do what what's jus my notice [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► is there's a difference in the system [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► right but but I know I know this is like [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► yeah this is like a this is like a [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► philosophical distance and this is also [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► a case where I know that I am in the [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► minority because essentially no other [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► to-do app makes this no like it's like [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► I've never seen anybody do this [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► implementation as well the same was like [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► deferring yeah like I see people say [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► they want deferred eight so just like [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► just move the Jew day like what's wrong [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► with you that's this is in my mind it's [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► like just just move the date I do i do [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► think this is also a little bit of a a [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► holdover from a certain kind of getting [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► things done thinking which I still I'm [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► still maintaining that I really like [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► this which is a due date should be a [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► real hard due date are you like you [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► shouldn't be using due dates for I'd [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► like to do this thing on this day yeah [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► right that's that's the distinction here [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► and so a start date allows you to have a [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► distinction about like due dates are [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► really due dates right there they're not [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► these other kind of things but but I am [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► totally aware of like if I'm wanting to [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► use any other system I totally have to [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► hack my way around this like I did [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► mention before I still use to do to [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► track certain kinds of tasks like little [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► routine tasks and I just hack that whole [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► thing or it's like everything only shows [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► up in my system when it's overdue right [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► so sighs look just the due date means [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► nothing right it's just this is what I [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► want the thing to show up not when it's [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► actually do so I think I think that's [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► where this disagreement comes in is like [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► a philosophical conflict over what is [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► the meaning of the due date yeah I feel [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► like this is an old school thinking [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► rather as you mentioned because I feel [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► like everybody that I know that uses [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► those functions like differ and start [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► and stuff like that there's people that [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► that seem to have been doing this stuff [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► for longer yeah I I think that is the [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► case whereas it seems like most people [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► are much happier with using the due date [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► as a goal almost like oh this is the day [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► that I want to do the thing and it feels [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► like it might be like if you're at the [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► school of David Allen or not that that's [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► what I do think this is probably a [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► holdover from that but this is this is [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► one habit that I just I cannot let go [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► because I like it's like due dates [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► should mean something right likes it [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► like sometimes you get into an argument [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► with the person and they're using words [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► like in a really sloppy way and it's [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► like no words need to mean something [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► like if we're having a conversation and [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► words mean nothing like well I don't [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► even understand how we can have a [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► conversation and I feel that way about [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► due dates and system like the day due [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► date needs to mean something otherwise I [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► don't understand how to organize [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► anything okay grandpa I know I know [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► that's where I am you kids with your [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► with your due dates that mean nothing [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► and your words that can mean whatever [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► you want them to mean it's just like [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► okay whatever just gonna yell at you [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► from my porch that's what I'm gonna do [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► one of a problem of my switch to do is [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► is one hundred percent on me errors with [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► the manual data transfer okay human [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► error oh my god oh this is completely on [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► me so like I added some things [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► incorrectly so there was like some tasks [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► that I had to complete and they were [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► just like they were on the wrong [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► repeating cycle or something [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► and so now I live in fear of like what [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► else is wrong right something in here is [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► wrong and I don't know what it is and [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► I'll only know when it's too late you [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► know but there's nothing you can do [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► about that I just freaking wish there [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► was a system so i could move around [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► easily but no doesn't do like that ship [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► has sailed but i just wished that there [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► was something you know we spoke about [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► this last time like i just wished it was [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► like a system like Heather's calendars [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► or system how there is email right that [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► these things are just there and you can [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► move from app to app because they're [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► pulling from a database that everyone [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► can share you know like how r SS is you [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► know like I just wish there was a thing [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► like that for tasks but there isn't and [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► there never will be because it's too [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► late now there never will be and I think [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► the the three protocols that we have [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► like RSS email and HTML that are these [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► universal protocols that are used by [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► everybody I think all three of those are [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► are almost like a historical accident [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► that we even got them in the first place [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► I let not even long for this world [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► anymore lot of this stuff right yeah but [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► it'sit's they're really valuable because [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► of that but it's this is one of these [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► cases where I feel like you run the [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► simulation of the world over again and [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► we could end up in a world where there [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► aren't these common communication [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► protocols and I do think that when you [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► say they're not long for the world I [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► think on the user end in very many cases [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► they're not long for the world but [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► they're they're a kind of foundation [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► that will probably never go away and [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► they are super useful like HTML and be [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► able to do the this API stuff like this [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► is all dependent on the very notion of [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► loading and sending information to a web [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► page yeah great I'm so happy this is [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► here I said but the ones we have that's [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► as many as we're gonna have exactly [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► that's kind of I mean like the idea of [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► it is not long for this world in that [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► their war no one's gonna make another [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► one of these because this isn't how [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► companies get rich anymore its [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► proprietary exactly yeah I think we're [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► never going to end up with another one [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► of these like how you do if your [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► Evernote database over there buddy [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► doing good ya doing just great let me [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► tell you a story about how I wanted to [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► rearrange some tags on my iPhone and [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► every now and then like oh oh great all [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► the hierarchical information that I've [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► put together on my Mac with the tags Oh [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► none of that carries over to Evernote [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► great thanks thanks Evernote that's that [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► week this story for another time you're [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► gonna hate this but my suggestion to you [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► now is start over somewhere else and [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► like everything new you add to the [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► system goes in that place and everything [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► old is in the legacy app and then over [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► time you can let go ever know we can't [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► have we can't have this conversation now [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► like Mike you'd like you do not [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► understand you do not understand the [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► kind of legacy costs that I'm dealing [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► with here right this is this is just now [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► you've explained it to me I know I I [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► have an idea right like I can i can [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► understand but like it's not it's just [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► not gonna work for you man like it's [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► gonna die no no do you know what the gym [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► what the problem is the problem is [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► despite all of my frustrations it does [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► still work for me right like when i'm [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► trying to search for something this just [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► just just happened the other day like [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► i'm working on a video and i'm going to [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► do a quick search for a thing as like oh [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► great some notes I saved from like seven [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► years ago turned up as a thing that was [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► relevant to something that I'm doing now [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► so is it that's the problems problems [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► it's actually still useful to keep [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► working like there is still like a [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► system that can work right which is like [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► RSS like emails plain text you know [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► there are so many apps that build on [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► plain text man I know that you have [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► images right but you can also save [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► folders of images and it's it's sloppy [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► you know how many OCR bootleg [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► screenshots of God about that I have [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► right like I i have i have thousands of [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► ocr'd pages from books that i have found [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► interesting like it i cannot like that's [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► the problem anyway this is your fault [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► for bringing up Evernote I don't know [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► how it got down another Evercore tangent [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► here but what I was going to say [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► originally is that while something like [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► I [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► map for tasks will never exist with all [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► of these public API s and with your [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► growing skills and web automation there [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► is at least in theory the possibility [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► that a future Mike when moving from [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► todoist to some other program in the [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► future he'll be able to write something [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► that can at least do a basic transfer [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► right that can that can comb through the [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► database and then add tasks on the other [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► end to be double-checked I did look into [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► this a little bit like they're always to [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► move from OmniFocus todoist mmm but it [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► will still it still requires you to go [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► through and tweak some stuff because [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► they just don't talk to each other very [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► well like at all even if you take the [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► data out like the data OmniFocus gives [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► is not really comfortable for to doest [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► to accept so I still I know for my own [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► pups I still would have gone through [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► every task and made sure they were [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► correct oh yeah yeah again this is this [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► is not for now Mike I'm simply saying [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► like there's the possibility for future [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► Mike Mike four point oh yeah to API [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► enabled to do apps could have a much [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► easier transfer between them yeah then [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► one app that has an API and another app [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► that doesn't ah yes of course I see what [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► you mean it's not only focus was never [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► going to do any good but like yeah [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► future application like both [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► understanding the web right could yeah [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► you're totally right no one the very [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► best thing about to do list also houses [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► I think it's very worst floor so to do [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► its natural language entry is incredible [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► like I press control in and I just start [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► typing and then I press ENTER and the [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► task is done and it has the due date it [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► has the project it's all attached to it [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► I love it it's like how fantastical [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► change calendars to do is change task [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► entry because you just you type to it [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► you have to learn the language of the [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► application a little bit right leg [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► mm-hmm what is it that you need to do to [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► add something to a project what do you [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► need to do to add a label to it that [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► kind of [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► thing you know but it's brilliant but [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► where it falls down is the way that you [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► especially with repeating tasks like [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► there is a specific language they have a [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► website that will web page even in the [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► application you can get a link which [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► kind of tells you how do you say every [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► second Tuesday or how do you say every [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► first of the month right there are ways [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► in which you say this stuff into the [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► natural language and that's pretty [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► normal of this stuff right where there [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► is a language that it understands [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► because then it's going to get it right [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► and I totally understand that and you [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► have to learn the language to be able to [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► speak to it in that way it's like the [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► same with like the Amazon echo right you [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► speak to it in the ways that it [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► understands and then you are good right [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► right but the problem with to doest is [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► with all of the repeating tasks stuff [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► there's no UI yeah I've run into this as [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► well so you can't change a thing unless [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► you speak to it and that is crazy making [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► to me like i have spent like 20 minutes [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► trying to get a task to repeat in the [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► right way because i keep telling it in [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► the way that I think it should [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► understand but it's still getting it [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► wrong and I can't just click and then [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► just just press a button like I could do [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► in OmniFocus to get it to do that now [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► omnifocus I could set it that way but I [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► also couldn't speak to it right so [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► there's like a give-and-take with it and [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► everyone that I know that uses to do us [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► is also frustrated about this but over [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► time it becomes less of a problem as you [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► learn more and more how to talk to it [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► but they should also have the UI to be [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► like repeat every second Tuesday yeah [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► this this kind of stuff is really funny [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► because the natural language processing [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► is always oh it's fantastic when it [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► works but when it doesn't work suddenly [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► it's like you're in the 1970s talking to [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► the terminal right you just you need to [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► learn the magic incantations to say to [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► make up do the thing and it's [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► infuriating the problems lie and when [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► there isn't a defined language when it's [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► trying to infer your meaning right this [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► is why a lot of people i think get [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► frustrated it's eerie is that oh my god [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► Siri I think tries to take more broad in [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► put ya where the echo [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► put ya where the echo [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► you have to say things in a specific way [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► so once you learn those things is more [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► reliable so like I understand why it [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► needs the specific language because then [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► we're talking to each other in a way [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► that we understand it's like I'm talking [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► to you right now I'm not half of my [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► words aren't French right right I have [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► to speak to you in the language I know [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► you're going to understand I get that [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► but not having a you I fall back it's [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► just just stupid I think I can't [TS]

01:00:26 ◼   ► understand why you wouldn't have that [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► yeah it is frustrating again I've I'm [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► using it in a very different way but I [TS]

01:00:32 ◼   ► was aware of that really fast that the [TS]

01:00:35 ◼   ► lack of you I for certain aspects of the [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► task is frustrating and it it also seems [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► like you need this here so that I can [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► learn when the language typing works and [TS]

01:00:47 ◼   ► when it doesn't are so there can be a [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► little feedback loop but like what do [TS]

01:00:49 ◼   ► you think I said like how are you [TS]

01:00:52 ◼   ► populating all of these fields based on [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► what I'm typing into this box very very [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► weird I mentioned statistics to do is [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► has statistics which are kind of cool [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► kind of pointless at the same time the [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► pointless thing is something called [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► Karma you are points over time and then [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► you become like mega expert like I don't [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► really know why they have this system [TS]

01:01:17 ◼   ► doing why they have this system [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► ramification I know that's the reason [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► but it's like gamification is just like [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► machine learning right it's magic that [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► you sprinkle on to every product but [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► thing about it is is the gamification [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► does work because you know there's a [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► part of me and it's like oh like I've [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► just gone up a comma level like I am a [TS]

01:01:37 ◼   ► master now you know like I am currently [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► an expert to next is master than [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► Grandmaster and then enlightened you [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► know like it wasn't gonna get to the [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► enlightened phase and an only to work [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► anymore I think that's what that's what [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► it's telling me they give you a big [TS]

01:01:51 ◼   ► payout when you're done and then you've [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► won you've won the game of productivity [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► I think that's how it works but what I [TS]

01:01:57 ◼   ► do like is that the statistics that they [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► give you about like you can kind of tell [TS]

01:02:01 ◼   ► it how many tasks you want to complete [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► on an average day and then it has like a [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► baseline and you can see when you breach [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► over the baseline you get streaks going [TS]

01:02:08 ◼   ► and stuff like that which i think is [TS]

01:02:10 ◼   ► kind of interesting I can see how many [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► tasks are completed in the last seven [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► is an hour weekly basis the last four [TS]

01:02:15 ◼   ► weeks and like I like seeing that [TS]

01:02:17 ◼   ► because it's given me some trends but [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► i'm using project snail gray something [TS]

01:02:21 ◼   ► I've never done before but i'm using [TS]

01:02:24 ◼   ► project since but one of the reasons is [TS]

01:02:26 ◼   ► because it's easier for me to do this i [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► don't i can just type it in and it takes [TS]