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the incomparable number 342 March 2017
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welcome back everybody to the
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incomparable i am your host Jason Snell
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we're here this time to talk about a
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film from the year 2000 it is M night
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Shyamalan that's right he's made a lot
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of movies that people do not like he's
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got quite a reputation he made the sixth
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sense that was a kind of a phenomenon
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his next film was a a sort of a secret
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code to superheroes I suppose although
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looking back it's hard to even believe
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that it's secret but I guess that's the
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position you have after you've seen the
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movie a few times it's unbreakable and
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joining joining us to talk about
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unbreakable on this episode are the
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following superheroes of podcasting
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moises chui yan hello excelsior hi Jason
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how are you it's good to have you here
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dan Morin is also here hi they call me
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mr. class oh do they nope nope no one
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ever has called me that all right
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someday maybe right Erica and sign is
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here hi hi I have a little bit of a cold
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so i'm pretty sure i'm not a superhero
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oh that's true and he wasn't gonna be on
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this episode but I stood in the middle
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of a bus station until he bumped into me
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it's justin michael hi tell me something
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Jason when you woke up this morning was
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it still there the sadness yep cuz he
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knew he was doing this by gazmin want
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want so where to begin should we should
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we start when Jason Jason I have an
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opening statement oh my god you beat me
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to it Jason just just for historical
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purposes and not to not to steal John
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syracuse's most signature signature
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lines but I think we do need a little
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bit of historical context which a lot of
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people for this film would like to would
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like to make all about oh how the movie
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was marketed how the movie was marketed
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does that in the other I don't really
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care about that what I care about is in
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the context of comic book movies there
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are a few historical signposts that
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people should just adjust their
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chronometer 'he's in their minds to not
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only was this pre nine
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11 this was also just after Batman and
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Robin and blade those are the most
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recent comic book movies to have come
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out and it was a full two years before
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Sam Raimi's spider-man the this this was
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a completely different world of
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quote-unquote comic book movie than what
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we face today it was kind of a desert of
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comic book movies in many ways and and
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and i think it's it's fascinating to
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look at it back now 17 years later as
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someone deciding to make a movie of this
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type with certain genre tropes that were
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very very familiar with one might say
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too familiar well at this point and and
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look at the notion of grounding gritty
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real-life superheroes in ways that
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doesn't require them to hit each other
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over the head with toilets interesting
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reference their reference acknowledged
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yeah i think you make some very good
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points it's it's i was going to say
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later on but i'll just say it now you
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know when you've seen 80 different
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origin story movies you get a little
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tired of an origin story and then I was
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watching this saying you know this is an
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origin story too but I not told in the
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same way and it's not a familiar origin
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and it isn't like the third time we've
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seen spider-man's origin and like 10
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years and so it's a little bit different
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dan did you have a opening statement
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quick comment just setting my own
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context for seeing this I i frequently
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allude to this i think you know to to
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pick up Moises is through a thread about
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marketing I figured Leah Lutz this as I
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think the my favorite and possibly one
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of the best movie trailer zephyr because
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there's a movie trailer for this movie
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that's probably all of a minute and a
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half long or something like that and it
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gives away absolutely nothing about this
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movie I mean basically it's that scene
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from the beginning where he's in the
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hospital and that's it and so I was not
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a pro I did not see the sixth sense
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because I was not really like sort of a
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creepy movie aficionado at that point
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and so I knew basically nothing about
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this going in and to me it remains one
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of the great surprises of that era of
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movies where I went into a movie really
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having zero
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idea what it was about and found myself
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completely blown away and there are some
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choices in here that are not a hundred
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percent but i think you know overall it
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was the fact that it it took me
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completely by surprise and so too often
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i think we all agree that movie trailers
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seem to give up all too much of these
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movies and like you can watch it two and
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a half minute trailer and it basically
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it's like I I don't need to see that now
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and so it was the refreshing even at
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that point to see a movie trailer that
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indeed lived up to the name of a teaser
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where it gave you just enough to want to
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go see the movie and that was about it
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you're gonna grab on my thread I'm going
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to grab on yours I completely agree and
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and people would argue that the plots
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narrative twist or turn toward the end
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of the movie is the twist and it's part
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of his whole gimmick but I feel like his
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subversion of expectation is is
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something that yeah there's that at the
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end of the movie that you can point to
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from a structural perspective but i
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think that the bigger twist is is
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specifically that in setting it up as
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this is something that you want to see
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and not explaining every last little bit
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of what this movie is going to be what
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it is about and leaving that a mystery
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is the most effective twists in in this
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in this movie and in this era of his
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filmmaking this is a movie about a
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superhero's origin story that was not
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marketed as being even in the superhero
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genre for people who don't remember the
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sixth sense was a huge hit unexpected it
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has a huge twist at the end it's one of
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those famous movie twists you're not
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supposed to spoil
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Bruce Willis is dead the entire time by
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the way cuz look what I did there I've
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been dead for this last five years of
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these podcasts but nobody talks about
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that well we all knew that damn not a
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twist so Shyamalan came from nowhere had
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this huge hit so there was there was a
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lot of pressure on him a lot of like
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what's the what's the follow-up gonna be
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worried about the sophomore slump how is
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he going to top himself all of these
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things and this is a funny movie for
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that because then after this you know we
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can we can debate the various films that
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he made after this I think he made you
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know I yeah we could debate it but he
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certainly doesn't go to a justly
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maligned you can hear defenses of many
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of them yeah exactly but he's definitely
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got my reputation and and although i
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will say in the last few years he's kind
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of worked his way back to sort of
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rebuilding his uh his credibility a
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little bit at the box office keep in
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mind it and this is this is a man who
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engendered so much let's just say man I
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I hesitate to call hatred but I've never
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I have never been in a movie theater and
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seeing someone's name get booed before
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and I trailer I mean is realer oh it was
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it was crazy like that is just a like a
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phenomenon that I have never seen since
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or before and that like shows you just
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how much strong feelings people have
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about this guy love them or hate him you
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know it's better especially hatem it
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seems but it's fascinating and and it's
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weird for me coming from perspective of
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and I'll put my cards on the table here
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I love this movie I don't think it's
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perfect but I really love it I love it
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because it was so unexpected I love it
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because I do love this exploration of of
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comic book superhero ideas without you
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know without it being explicit at least
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at first and and in a grounded way that
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you know you're Batman and Robin's were
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not at the time and it's actually kind
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of hard to express love of any movie by
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mem night Shyamalan because people do
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roll their eyes because he really has
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got this uh you know reputation in in
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some circles but I I would for I would
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argue that this is a legitimate
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good movie and that's why I decided we
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were gonna talk about it so thanks for
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coming on the podcast everybody I think
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Shyamalan over overall you know despite
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the bad rap in the in the flawed movies
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he's made he still stands out in my mind
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as a director who makes choices there's
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something very deliberate about his
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filmmaking and I think that that that
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shows through in a way that if you watch
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you know a ton of different films that
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come out these days or in the last
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decade or two there's a lot of stuff
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that won't leave an impact on you one
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way or the other because it feels very
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bland it feels as though there have not
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been any risks taken it feels as though
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everything is sort of cookie cutter and
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I feel like again once despite all the
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other things you can say about Shyamalan
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he makes distinct choices he does things
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for purpose and reason I think you know
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he every shot is intended to have a
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meaning behind it and he comes across as
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Hitchcockian to me in his best moments
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it's not all of his moments but like
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that to me is you know I think he's one
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of a very few number of directors
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especially working in sort of these
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pulpy genre films who really seems to
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know what he's about and what he's doing
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making choices is is one of the things
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that that I was really noticing when I
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rewatched this for the podcast and that
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but I respect this movie and I respect
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him as a director because it was so
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clear that he was taking care with with
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all of the shots with all the choices
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that he made some of them were not
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choices that led me to enjoy the movie
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anymore but I thought they were good
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solid choices so it's it's kind of this
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thing where I really respect it and
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think it is a good film but don't
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necessarily want to jump into rewatching
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it again any time super soon yeah
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deliberate is exactly the word to
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describe his filmmaking and he's very
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deliberate in his pacing he's very
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deliberate in his choices his framing
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his cement cinematography and he's very
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deliberate when it comes to crafting the
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story that he wants to craft regardless
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of what else is going on in the
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cinematic world you know like his films
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are different and I don't think they're
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different because he tries to make them
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I think they're different just because
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he tells the story the way he wants to
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tell it without much regard to what else
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is going on and that really shines
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through and that's where a lot of the
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the hatred comes from and the the
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unhappiness from the audience because
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people go to the movies and they expect
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certain things and he's not afraid to
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subvert those expectations and some
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someone else as far as like you need to
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comic book you know what shevlin is
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books like and then it's almost like he
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gonna leave this here pay no attention
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what to do with it but you're laying it
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all out there and likewise when we see
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giving birth to this baby who's crying
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broken bones and that's why it's crying
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what is happening and I didn't realize
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doctor for him right right call for
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the baby like you know is it's there's a
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charged bit of it there and then the
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mirror shot that you point out which
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this character he's always in reflection
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n-nice use the mirror and then after
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intentional right like oh yeah yeah it's
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an inflectional glass again he's making
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the very first thing I wrote down in my
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notes after the first couple of scenes
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was very unsettling in the beginning and
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you know it going back to those title
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cards with with the the text about the
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comics it's like okay we're talking
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about comic books that's fairly light
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bone since like wow and like like you
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that room and it's like we went from
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comic books to this and like by the time
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the that scene ends I forgot the the
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comic text like it's gone like and then
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sitting there and you know this very
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intentional and I think it helps to
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sweep you off of wherever you are coming
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like whatever he's going to throw at you
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nets because it almost puts you on the
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defensive in a good way I agree and I
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consider i mean the cinematography
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choices that are made are oh this is
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weird this is strange oh why are we
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doing the the bobbing back and forth
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perspective of a little girl the thing i
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the most comics inspired panel layout
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design that I've son cinematically to
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dollar comic book movies that have been
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made that don't have the kind of really
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arresting visuals that this does in the
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first two micro scenes and that the big
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thing about comic storytelling that you
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know you you read any of the different
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books that have been made by people who
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really know their stuff when it comes to
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comic story telling is that each page
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ends on a cliffhanger and that's the way
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that he structures the scenes where we
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get a little bit of information but
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we're left just off kilter enough
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and wanting to propel forward just
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relentlessly throughout the movie you
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know they're people who have issues the
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pacing I think they can go jump off a
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bridge because that that might be a more
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useful I've it might be superheroes oh
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it could be they could be because this
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movie told me that everybody should be a
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superhero they could be just got to
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think about it a certain way but there
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that that particular bit of I guess you
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artificially done to to a frustrating
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level but it's enough that you you don't
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by somebody else and you're being fooled
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dynamics that you that you see in
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suspense or thriller movies that end up
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making a go out come on or the stuff
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that a lot of people came to associate a
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lot of his later work with which is all
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twice but on the third time I'm done
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with you there are a lot of things in
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talk about how they are uncommon book
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movie like in in the way in the choices
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that are made in the things we don't see
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are special effects that you don't see
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but there are basically no special
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effects in this movie that's an
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interesting choice some choices for
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spectacular action or you know least
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spectacle scenes aren't are avoided
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they're not shown like the train crash
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lots of interesting decisions that are
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made that make this feel like a very
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different kind of movie and the
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deliberate the slow build like here we
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get we get a flashback and if we get the
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title card we got a flashback and then
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we get the train scene which is Bruce
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out the window and you know and a woman
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sits down next to him and they have a
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conference he takes off his wedding ring
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which is a you gotta be gotta be paying
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attention but he takes off his wedding
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ring slides it off we don't know that
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we're immediately put on the the wrong
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foot with him like but will Bruce Willis
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is the star of this movie and the first
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thing he does you know is implying happy
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that he's dead he's cheating on his wife
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and he he tries to have a conversation
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with him then pick up the young sports
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agent who sits down next to him and that
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gets really painful and awkward and then
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she leaves and also he's being kind of
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watched from the row in front of him by
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a kid sort of upside down at one point
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and not for the last time upside down
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that's also a trope that gets rehabbed
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several times but we get to see the
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whole awkward conversation that he has
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with the sports agent and and then he
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puts his wedding ring back on and the
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you know then the scene ends with him
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looking at the window and the train
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starts honking its horn uh you know and
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and the the noise we will watch this and
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I've got the 5.1 audio system and
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there's a lot of really great surround
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and subwoofer in this movie again with
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care it builds and is loud and the train
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gets louder and louder and louder as
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we're getting to that moment where it's
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going to crash and then hard cut silence
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and it's a it's pretty spectacular yeah
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there's there's two things that I wanted
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to call out with the scene and one of
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them is right in the beginning right
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when it opens with Bruce Bruce was like
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putting his head against the window
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watching the world go by where it just
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opens the look on his face tells you so
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much about his character just just
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looking out that window and that is like
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the the first of many little moments
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throughout the movie that just have like
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a wealth of character building in a
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single scene or a single sequence and
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it's just it's wonderful and then the
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second thing was was again that that kid
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in the front like they show the kid you
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know initially and then we we go to her
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and his conversation with what the lady
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that he's trying to pick up and then we
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go back to the kid and I thought that
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was a wonderful way to bookend that
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sequence this is almost a short movie in
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and of itself but I got fail yeah pick
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up a lady and there's so much good thing
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packed in here from the body language I
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just the scene where she were the bit
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where she says I'm married and sort of
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like she crosses her arms across her
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chest everything gets super aqua
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heard all of a sudden there's
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foreshadowing when she talks about the
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quarterback at the college right he's
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gonna be a god and as we later realize
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this is you know sort of evidence of his
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own his own road not taken right plus we
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see that guy later which is a rare yes
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sad nice touch twice twice actually i
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believe ya sees him playing football and
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then he sees him with the kids rom and
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the fear of water is brought up very
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early when he talked about not being
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able to be a synchronized swimmer right
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like all of this is just all packed in
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and like you know like Justin said like
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it's so economical and yet accomplishes
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so many things in such a short little
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time and it's very very realistic I mean
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if you have ever if a guy has ever sat
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down next to you and tried to pick you
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up not sure if that's happened but it
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has to me and yeah that is that is
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exactly the kind of awkward that it
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feels like yeah and another thing about
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this scene is the you know the sequence
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from the camera moving left and right
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from the seat in front right we're for
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yours here we are we're watching the
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Apple happen between the crits the crack
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between the two seats if the r of the
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row ahead is how we see the whole thing
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the other thing that the the camera work
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here accomplishes you know in in
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addition to the sense of voyeurism is
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the fact that you only see one character
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at a time you either see Bruce or you
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see her and through that you know
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through that framing he's able to direct
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the audience the audience's focus
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exactly where he wants it like if he
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wants you to see her body language when
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he's saying something he does that but
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it's not forced and it's not something
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you notice when you're watching the
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scene it's just it's so well done from
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top to bottom like dan like you said
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it's like a movie in a scene right here
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and I just I love it to do like like
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Justin I had not watched this movie in
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years although I've seen it several
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times and what amazed me about it was
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how much shots stuck with me there are
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just images and scenes and like
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composition shots that have stuck that I
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immediately recognized immediately
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remembered that even though I haven't
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seen this movie
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decade probably like it was amazing how
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much of that stuck with the ants it's a
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testament to the cinematography in the
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direction here is just like these again
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the choices made they stick with you
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because they are deliberate and they are
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they are very measured in the way that
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they accomplish you know like try to
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accomplish a specific message through
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not only what's being done on screen but
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how it's being shown he uses a bunch of
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old cinema technique stuff that you
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would see in Hitchcock that are things
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that things things people try to emulate
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these days from those you know old
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masters as it were tend to be the more
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gimmicky stuff and not the direct
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directed attention filmmaking is Justin
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alluded to so the train crash happens
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off-screen because our our next scene is
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actually a boy upside down watching a TV
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watching the TV and this is this is we
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learn this is Bruce Willis who is david
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dunn this is his son he's watching TV he
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flips around we get a little Powerpuff
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Girls happen in the middle there and
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then we end up with the scene of a
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terrible train derailment and then he
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turns back around right side up and
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looks at this and and goes over to the
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calendar in the other room to see this
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the sticky note that says that that's
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his dad's train and then the next scene
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after that is a scene in the hospital
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where Bruce Willis is he sits up and in
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the foreground they're working on a
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patient and if you're focused on Bruce
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Willis in the background by the way you
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will you will miss the blood begin to
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read across that bridge occasion shot so
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there's a lot house a lot happening at
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the beginning of this movie and and in
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the background the conversation is
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happening between Bruce Willis and a
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doctor about the fact that he's trying
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to figure out like were you sitting in a
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special place you know that this
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happened and Bruce Willis doesn't really
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understand what's going on i get i get
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the sense from this that he's been
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unconscious until this point but then
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you know he's about to be after this guy
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dies basically he's about to be the last
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survivor between crash
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he doesn't have a scratch on him this
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scene is framed perfectly it's shot
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perfectly that's slow zoom plus the
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blood plus like the the audio work like
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it's it's all just spot-on and lets I
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mean let's couple this scene with the
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immediate following scene which is also
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amazing which is it's all the people all
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the people waiting at the hospital for
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word about their loved ones we know and
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we I think we may be are hearing the
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last words of the doctor as that scene
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begins which is we know everybody else
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on the train died which means everybody
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waiting at the hospital is waiting in
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vain their loved ones are dead and he is
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walking out of there with his kind of
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messed up clothes but he's just walking
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out without the the the scratch on him
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and then you know his his son sees him
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and runs to him and was a nice pan shot
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like sort of a dolly shot around him and
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just the looks on everyone's faces in
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that scene are almost chillin I think
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and what are they thinking or looking at
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him one of these think what are they
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thinking are they thinking well if this
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guy survived maybe somebody else did are
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they are they angry at him because he's
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revived during grade him to me it always
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looks like that no mm-hmm the thing that
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I like about this scene is as they're
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walking out of the hospital first you
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get the kid putting his parents hands
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and in each other and like you you see
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immediately what's going on and then as
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they're walking they they drop the hand
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so like all this you know the context of
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the first scene of him taking his his
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wedding ring off and putting in his
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pocket it makes so much more sense now
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like okay he's not necessarily the
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complete slimeball that I maybe thought
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he was in that earlier scene they are
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having trouble maybe they're even
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separated like I wasn't exactly sure
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what was what was going on with that
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it's just economy at once again economy
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and deliberateness of the framing of the
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shots you know so much more about what
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is going on now the the information
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that's been given in such a tight amount
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of time is pretty fantastic yeah we're
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what like five minutes into the movie
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yeah yeah like we have all of this
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information and we're just barely into
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it it's very much like an issue of a
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comic book and you get a gigantic amount
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of information thrown in
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you're mine in six frames so i could see
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one of the criticisms of this film being
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that it that it does it is deliberate
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and you could say that the pacing is is
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slow in some ways I think what shemal n
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is doing here is downloading us enough
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that we are willing to take it slow as
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there as the discovery happens I think
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that's what at least what he's trying to
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do because we have just spent a lot of
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time talking about the first maybe five
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minutes the first three or four scenes
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of this film but I think that's what
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he's doing right he's saying okay I'm
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gonna give you everything you need to
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know I'm gonna be economical about it
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and then you're gonna be you're gonna be
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interested enough to follow me from here
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yeah and it almost worked I was I was
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just I think and actually i might as
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well talk here about another one of the
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deliberate choices which which you have
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seen at this point and that is the the
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color palette of this film and the
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writing is very very deliberately just
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sort of dull and and the pacing also
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sort of feels deliberate and I don't
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want a dull on the on the pacing because
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that's that's not quite right but it is
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it is it is showing you that this is
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this is an ordinary guy this is a schlub
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he is he's just a dude and and I feel
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like these first few scenes have really
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have really built that very well and I
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was interested but as we go on it's like
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yep he continues to be just an ordinary
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guy for quite a long time and I just
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don't care about him that much that's
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what I agree I I think I think yeah you
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I I think you could argue that the that
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it goes a little too long in that
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interim where he is sort of unclear and
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that they do a couple of things you know
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he has a couple of conversations with
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Samuel Jackson it's like I don't know if
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you really needed them but but I think
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it is interesting here you mentioned the
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color palette and I want to get back to
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that but the color palette is dull
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except when it's not and that's an
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interesting choice that he makes it's
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like the color palette is is faded so
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that he can have certain bursts of color
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to represent beside things well and and
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in Samuel Jackson's purple area things
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yeah yeah the ball the people that he
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bumps into and exactly accentuates the
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red in their coat or the green in there
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should everything else is cream and
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white and gray and
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well this is color in general too i mean
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because not only Samuel Jackson's use of
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purple but the fact that David mostly
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wears green in both in his sort of dirty
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uniform as well see wearing a green
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shirt at the beginning you know
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obviously everything is chosen and those
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again superhero tropes right like even
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when you have those superheroes wear
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even when they're in their cities
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they're always wearing the color sure of
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their superhero outfit right like it's a
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little key a little cheat sheet for you
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so you get that let's not forget that
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his initials are are you know he's david
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dunn he's a TT he's a superhero doubled
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initial person Tim and also I want to
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draw attention here although it said you
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know sort of throughout the music James
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Newton Howard score for this is
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fantastic i love this score really great
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good for me I mean people people have
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issues of the pacing and I think that's
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perfectly fine but something that that
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at the time I liked was that it wasn't
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trying to tell the pace of somebody
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else's version one of these types of
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stories I really dug hanging out with
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sad Superman long without a bunch of
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special effects or building's exploding
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I'm a fan of movies that are kind of a
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slow burn like this and I think it
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really because it takes to heart that
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idea of like what if there really was a
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superhero in our world how would that go
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and the answer is it would take you a
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long time to be willing to accept that
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you might be a Sierra right like you
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would not believe that you would think
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that dude is crazy and so I you know
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going down that route and not just being
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like having it turn into a superhero
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movie and I feel like there are movies
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the movie that comes to mind which my
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most frustration with this was a
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kick-ass which is a movie that is like
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hey what if you a like what if you were
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superheroes in real life and then it
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just buys into its own hype which I feel
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like this movie never quite does it sort
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of keeps it at a distance because it's
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trying to ground it in our world even if
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parts of it are unbelievable while the
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slow-burn here doesn't work for me so
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much I still applaud it because I
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actually I do like a slow burn it's just
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I tend to be a very character centric
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viewer so if there are characters that
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stood in during a slow burn I am on
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board and i love it in this case just
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that the sheer ordinariness of this
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person is integral to the story and
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because he's so ordinary I didn't really
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like him much so so that's that's the
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only reason I wasn't on board so this is
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one of those choices that he made to to
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pace it and color it this way that I
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think is fantastic from a moviemaking
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standpoint I think it makes it a very
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good film it just makes it a film that
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I'm less interested in in watching like
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I I am having more fun talking about it
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with you guys then I was watching this
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part of the film well well this part I
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mean it's not it's it is yeah it's hey I
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only watch I love this movie and I only
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watch it every five years or so it's not
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one of those ones i'll hop on any rainy
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day that that comes along so i wanted to
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mention the next scene and and and this
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is where the story really i mean well
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the plot summary really starts to move
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erica because there's not a lot that
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happens but but if you couple the scene
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where there is the the memorial service
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for the victims of the crash with the
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scene as he's walking out in the
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hospital what I thought about during all
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of that and the memorial seen you know
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it serves a purpose at the end because
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he finds a note stuck under his
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windshield but I I think in terms of
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superhero origins you know how Peter
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Parker didn't save didn't stop the
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robber and he killed his uncle band and
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great power comes great responsibility
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part of what's going on here I feel like
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in these two scenes is a classic
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superhero thing which is why were you
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the only one to survive what's what
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makes you special are you meant to do
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something more do you need to prove that
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it was you know that that you being
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saved was right and that you need to you
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need to be worth worthy of that and then
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it is hammered home again by the fact
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that you know he goes to this I mean he
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goes to this thing and he's the only
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survivor and they're in the memorial
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service for all the people who died and
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then he comes although I did wonder
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where he parked he must park in weird
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locations because there's like the whole
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city is mourning the people with that of
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the train wreck and there's a whole
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memorial service and yet his truck is
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parked in a completely empty parking lot
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so I guess maybe he was avoiding the
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media I don't know okay the memorial
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service is interesting too is it because
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I was paying more attention to it this
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time and pay attention to the
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he what they say about the people who
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died you've got like a leukemia
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researcher a third grade teacher yes
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social worker who are you sir all good
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people right like that's that's
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fascinating to me and right who are you
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why or why did you get saved in all
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these good people notice they don't
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mention like oh the sports agent who is
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kinetic money up the quarterback yeah
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she does not get a mention yeah but it
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sure distances all of them from well
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rent a cop you're not exactly gonna cure
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cancer or yeah yeah seriously so I like
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I like that because it just it feels in
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hindsight especially knowing what this
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movie is actually doing here it feels
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very much like this is one of his
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motivators is Who am I going to be you
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know I survive this and nobody else did
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what what am I going to do to live up to
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that just in the back it doesn't movie
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doesn't say that but that's how that's
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the feeling I get from these two scenes
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he gets though a note under his
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windshield from Elijah price we find out
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that is asking him the question of if
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he's ever been sick in his life and so
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it's like prompting him even more like
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oh is this not were you not just lucky
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maybe this is a bigger issue here two
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things I love about the note are that
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one this is the first like really purple
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thing like what the inside of that in
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mobile vibrant yeah it's like this
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vibrant purple and it's like it stands
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out you know cuz you know Erica like you
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said that the rest of the movie is so
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muted when it comes to colors and it's
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like wow that's that's purple in there
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and then the other thing is that the
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content of the note asks about being
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sick it doesn't ask about being injured
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ask about being sick so it starts to
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hint at the dimension of his powers and
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his abilities and his differences and
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it's like it's not just that he can't
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get hurt it's like there's more to it
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than this and i love that the only thing
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that I don't like about the note is it's
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it's where the movie breaks a little bit
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for me I mean I get that he's an
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ordinary guy but the idea that he didn't
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know if you'd ever been sick that's that
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strains my credulity a little bit i mean
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guess he must have been an only child
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because he didn't have his parrots
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comparing you know his number of sick
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days with with anybody else's but you
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know not knowing if you've ever taken a
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sick day in the however many years he's
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he's worked there and and it in your
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entire life to a little too far I i I'm
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kind of okay with it because i think it
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is that idea of like you don't notice
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these things sometimes if you're not
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really paying attention to it like if I
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you know and I think it really depends
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like there are definitely people I know
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who can give you the chronicle of like
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every time they've been ill over the
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last couple years and then I know people
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and and I fall in this category mostly
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is like yeah I can think of incidence
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where I was legitimately sick but you
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know I don't I certainly don't think
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about all the days when I wasn't sick
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and so I feel like I know a lot of
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people who are the other way around like
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oh I never heard Sam yeah I don't know
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but I it works for me because I feel
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like it is this idea as he starts to
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explore that and he's realizing like
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yeah do I really not like if you're just
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sort of out of it and like kind of
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occupied with other things and we know
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he's had this sort of malaise right like
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almost that's true that him just being
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like they're somewhat depressed if
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anything okay you've made it better yeah
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all right at some point in here we see
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our other flashback with Elijah which is
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when he's a little boy and he's looking
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out the window and his mom basically
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coaxes him outside by saying I put a
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present on the bench across the street
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and it's a comic book and I bought a lot
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of these comic books and every time you
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go outside you can have a comic book so
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we see the route of Elijah's interest in
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comics which is tied with his mother
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trying to get him out of the house cuz
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he just doesn't want to go outside
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because he's afraid of the world because
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he's afraid the world is gonna hurt him
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my suspense please wait wait who puts a
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present on a bench across I can for this
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too they also address it immediately
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which is that she put it there on
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purpose right like you know you and he
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says what it someone's gonna take it and
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she says well you better get out there
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right like so I think she gave somebody
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a heads up out there saying watch this
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make sure nobody takes it until my kid
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comes and gets it it's like it doesn't
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really bother me because she says
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immediately liked you better go get it
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right like it's not just the this is a
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weird scene this is also a movie where a
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guy who looks like Bruce Willis bench
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rs500 nice well my thing about it is
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that she is the mother of a kid who is
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is hurt a lot and and I have friends who
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have who have children who are our
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fragile in some ways and those moms get
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tough so my thought is that when she put
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it out there like she looked at all
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those other kids and like just gave them
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the law yeah and they were like or word
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or gave them a mission of nobody touches
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this do you understand air yeah exactly
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it once again this is an intro with a
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mirror shot right he's looking at the TV
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which is both a call back to the birth
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scene at the very beginning and to Bruce
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Willis's son watching the TV in the
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first shot that we get of him and so
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it's really again once again it's glass
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in the scene with the mom give him the
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comic book she has the line they say
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this one has a soprano yes that is too
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important and it's also a one another
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reversal shot where it the comic book is
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upside down yes and it follows him
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around as he turns it around and then
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continues around until it's red Sun he's
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the villain so it's upside down and
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inverted right like that makes perfect
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sense that I think that shot is a little
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bit too showing a little myself yes yeah
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no I'm a sucker for that because like
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that is a perfect metaphor for the point
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at which his life turns around yeah and
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it's like all right yes I mean that the
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the surprise ending thing is a little on
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the nose when you're watching this and
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have already seen it but layout again
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yeah yeah and there is a surprise to us
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to the end it is the thing that kicks me
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because like I've like how did I watch
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this movie before it's coming well we've
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got a 80 @ mi so then we do see they do
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meet the present day Elijah runs this
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art gallery there's a funny scene where
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a guy is going to buy this fine piece of
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art that's been described by Elijah
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about all the reasons the way that the
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the way the hero is depicted the way the
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villain is depicted and the guy says oh
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my four-year-old kid is going to love it
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he's like nope nope out of the store
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somebody's wasting somebody else's time
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out which is a great scene actually and
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then Bruce Willis arrives so Bruce
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Willis and his son come in and they have
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a conversation with Samuel Jackson where
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he has a long bit of dialogue about the
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history of kind of comic art he is
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explaining what again a little bit on
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the nose he's got hieroglyphics
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behind him as he's explaining that that
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illustrations go back to the days of the
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Egyptian hieroglyphics I'm like okay I
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got it I got it moving well I'm glad
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they didn't have him stroking a cat yeah
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another back chair there is a there at
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and he says you know that people and and
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he begins to get his thesis about how
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like people are extraordinary and maybe
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maybe you were extraordinary and and
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I've been looking for people like you
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and and he gets to do who do his whole
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download and Bruce Willis's responses
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don't don't drink anymore that water son
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you might want to throw that water out
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because he's like oh this is a crazy
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person that's his first take on Elijah
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is this is a crazy person we need to get
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out of here yeah this is the single the
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single clumsiest scene for me in the
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whole movie for two reasons one is like
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the whole like comic book as history of
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people who have powers being marketed
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and stuff like comics aren't that
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ancient you know like like comic books
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are just they're not that old you know
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and they have like well documented
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origins and it's like that's not what
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this is but he has a key is potentially
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crazy person so yep that kind of gets a
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pass but then like the way Bruce Willis
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reacts with the don't drink the water
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and then they get up to leave and he's
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like it's very clear at this point that
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that his character David feels that
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Elijah is a crazy person and then the
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scene ends with Elijah asking what kind
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of work do you do and then David tells
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Elijah that the person he thinks is
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completely crazy oh here's my job at the
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place where I work it's like what are
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you what he's weirdly polite to a lot of
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people yeah I think he realizes whoa
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whoa whoa I went I went way too fast I
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almost tipped my hand a bit too far you
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know I just about scared this guy off
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and he visibly in the next interaction
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that he has with David dials it back a
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bit where he goes a bit more open ended
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with him
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let's let's David do more of the mental
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answering of the questions that he's
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that he's asking then answering his own
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questions as he's asking them which is
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kind of what he does on down-south calm
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down you blew at that time come down I
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mess it up with the sky almost visit up
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with this guy and I don't want him to
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run away so i should mention a couple
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things happen that i skipped over he
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does find out that he's never taken two
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sick Danny gets a raise which i think is
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really nice we also see him at his place
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of work and there is a fantastic shot i
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just want to mention which is he's
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wearing his poncho standing in the
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tunnel watching the football team
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practice and could not look more like
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Batman in that job it is an amazing shot
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he is just like hood in a cape you know
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yo you put that you put the ears on me
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looks like Batman and if you look at him
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face forward and see the green in the
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cloak he looks like the spectre but
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nobody knows the spectre is nobody cares
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that that's true also there are a couple
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scenes including one that happens right
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after the scene of the in the gallery
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where he's at where Bruce Willis is at
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home with Robin Wright who is his
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estranged wife he goes through some old
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clippings including his football career
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and the crash but then we get this is
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where we get the scene where she
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basically which we're still figuring out
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exactly what state their relationship is
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in and this is the scene where she asks
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since we've been separated have you been
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with anybody else and he says no and she
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kind of breaks down at that point so you
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can see now you're getting more of the
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outline here of of the fragile nature of
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this relationship and you know are you
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know they're they're not in the same
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room but they're under the same roof and
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and are that is it over or is it not
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over and they're they're not clear and
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we get another scene of that we a couple
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of scenes where we're slowly putting
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together kind of some we never get all
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but some of the details of their
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estrangement that's an interesting shot
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because Bruce Willis is entirely from
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behind and the entire cameras on Robin
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right for that entire scene which is
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powerful because it's like an
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unflinching Glick gaze right and that's
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it's weird because we don't see him his
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reaction to that and this is all sort of
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ties into his character who is just kind
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of sleepwalking through life right like
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that's the whole thing we're getting
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from him and this fur
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half of the movie is that he is just not
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he is not in it he is not engaged he is
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not awake for whatever reason he is just
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not in this and then the other thing
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that I want to note was like almost a
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very literal Chekhov's gun scene wait
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well gun out of the closet and it's like
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yep my guns still there and do I have
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Chekhov's gun I do all right I do away
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thanks check out I mean I assume it's
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because he's just had this really weird
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interaction with a crazy dude who seems
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to be too into him but it is a little
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it's a little tan odd scene but it is
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clearly there to set up something will
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ya later yeah the other thing about the
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closet seen that struck me as like
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that's another like blatant example of
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comic book framing you know with the top
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down angle like yeah most movies would
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have shot that just through the through
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the open closet door you know as a
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simple side angle but we are above the
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ceiling in that show yeah we are about
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the ceiling he's he's literally boxed in
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by the closet like you can imagine
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reading the comic that's in and the the
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frame is the closet itself and it's just
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like for anyone who reads comics they
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notice that but for anyone else who
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doesn't read comics watching the movie
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it's like oh that's an interesting
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choice of framing it's not it's not like
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just thrown in your face and over the
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top it's just so well done and so like
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interlaced throughout the movie so well
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that's just like oh that's so nice next
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up also we are at the stadium and Elijah
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comes to talk to to talk to David again
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and we get to see David at work and one
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of the things we see here is our first
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hint that perhaps he's not just
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unbreakable but has other abilities
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which I I watching this movie it's one
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of those things like whoa like wait a
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second there's a whole other dimension
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happening here where he gets the sense
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first off it's very it's it's very
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subtly done here where he basically
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shows off that he thinks that that guy
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in the lion might have a gun and so he
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says start the pat downs and they start
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the pat downs and he tells Elijah yeah
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he'll just get out of the line if he's
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got something and he totally does get
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out of the line and so it's like I shot
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that holds on him and you're like is he
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gonna get out of line is he gonna get
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out of line yeah he finally does and
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there's this conversation about like he
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got did
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get an image of of it and it's a silver
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gun with a with a black grip right and
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and and Elijah ends up pursuing him down
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into the subway falling breaking many
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bones but seeing as he's laying upside
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down at the bottom of the steps he sees
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the guy jumped the turnstiles cuz this
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guy also was a fair cheat damn this guy
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he's even uh and sees that he has the
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same gun that David thought he saw
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flashed on basically without actually
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ever seeing which is a confirmation that
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David has even more powers than we
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thought and that's this block in the in
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the in the stadium love the creepy
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Cadillac which like once again is like a
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super villain card all the padding on
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really got me was that the call back in
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a certain way he goes to follow this guy
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across the street and down the subway
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across the street he is like same thing
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with him chasing down this you know like
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whatever this means to him right he has
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to go he has to thwart the stairs and of
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course when he falls to the bottom of
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the stairs and sees the guy jumped the
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turnstile he's upside down yeah each
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time he's chasing the next chapter of
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his life also by the way in our
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continuing story of one of the themes of
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this movie being easy parking uh he's
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next to a stadium in a football game and
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his cars just with handicaps using any
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gifts I suppose that's true I just he
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it's not a problem to park Nick's
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parking next to a football stadium
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during a football game is not easy to do
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but Elijah manages I I wondered the one
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thing they need is seen that strikes me
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as maybe a little over the top is the
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cane shattering oh I love the cane
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chatter it's no wait in which it is an
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awesome image but I also wonder why do
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you have a glass game unless you're a
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supervillain mr. well yeah cuz he's
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named mr. glass and this is a comic book
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movie and Bruce Willis bench presses
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thank you much as you brought me back
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down to reality that's ok thank you i
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needed or whatever this is it only takes
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500 pounds the other thing is when he's
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crossing the street they're like the win
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and like makes that flap of his coat oh
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yeah girls and you see that line again
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that vibrant purple yeah so good next up
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we have the scene where Bruce Willis
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does benchpress 500 pounds and we
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learned yet another dimension of his
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character not only is he not only does
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he have sort of a spidey sense and is
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unbreakable but he is super strong but
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before that scene starts we get a scene
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outside where he sees his son and his
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plate he's playing football which his
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mom is going to be upset about so we're
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laying the groundwork there about the
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fact that that she Robin Wright had a
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problem with football and perhaps that
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went into his car crash there but we do
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see the cornerback who is going to be a
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god down on the field playing with the
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kids which is a callback and it's sort
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of a sad moment of like oh yeah that
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agent who died and and also I love this
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scene because at the very end of it what
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the kid says is all right guys I can't
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play anymore I gotta go work out with my
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dad it's just adorable and then he puts
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his hand on his back as they walk away
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just oh it's uh it's there's something
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about that that is so just hits you
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right in the feels he's just showing off
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that is and loves his dad the thing the
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thing I love about the the bench
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pressing 500 pounds is one of the
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complaints that you could make about
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this movie if it was handled more poorly
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is that how would this guy not know that
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he couldn't lift so much like he that
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he's that strong but it's very clear
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that he has to struggle pretty much just
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the same amount before exactly for a
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reasonable amount of weight and and as
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they keep adding like he doesn't even
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realize that his kid added weight
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instead of took it off so it's it it
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doesn't have that same sort of like you
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know kid discovers he's super strong by
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lifting a car at the age of 2 or
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anything so I appreciated the actually
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the performance from Bruce Willis
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because it really did look like he was
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straining and struggling and the way
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that that was slowly built as Elijah
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says have you did have you two ever
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tried to develop it and the answer is no
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right and this is a good example of that
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is he knows he can lift this it was
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really hard he probably can't lift
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anymore so he'll stop and he never tests
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himself that's his life yeah that was
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self the self imposed limitation of
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I live in the real world in the real
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world you know people with superhuman
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strength don't exist so when you've
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reached the top end of what somebody on
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the football team bench presses well
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guess what you lift the most on the
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football team and nobody else can match
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you so there's nobody else to compete
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with and you stop the shooting of this
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entire scene is fantastic that love the
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kid walking back and forth I love the
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lines you think you could have beaten up
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Bruce Lee like he knew karate like that
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is such a thing like that you know
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you're thinking who doesn't want to
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think their dad can beat up Bruce Lee
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right like and then the scene where he's
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like you know how much did you take off
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and they cut back to them I just love
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his delivery on I'll I'd like it like
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it's just so good and he keeps moving
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the kid keeps moving further back as the
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scene goes and he puts more weight on
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and i love this is the scene that sold
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me on this movie when i was watching it
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for the first time and they sort of you
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know they're sitting there and there's
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this brief pause the kids has let's put
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more on every suppose just thinks about
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it goes okay okay like it was just that
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i just love that because it's the
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starting he's starting to realize
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something is weird right and it's just
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the buy-in is there a and he's letting
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his son into his into his world here he
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trusts his son to like help him figure
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this out which is kind of cool and his
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son was obviously with with them when
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they met with elijah the other thing and
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lauren brought this up she said she
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talked about the framing to and again
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not a subject she spends a lot of time
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talking about when she sees a movie but
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she said very specifically the shot that
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got her was the weight lifting shot
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we're in camera the camera keeps coming
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in and out as they as the weights keep
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going up and down it just it's a shock
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it's really good there's there's some we
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keep talking about Hitchcock there's
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some Spielberg flourishes in here too
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but but but yeah this is I really like
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this scene and how his son is like
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collaborating with him on it you should
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never do anything like this you know
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that i love how the kid keeps standing
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further back he's like staying power
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therefore i'm not quite sure what would
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happen about this is dangerous you
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should stand for the back like like in
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case awaits y or something and then and
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then you cut back to him and he's
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further back he just keeps going back
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air it's amazing but I I like that I
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like that Spielberg in touch and it's
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something that you know again I think
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maligned shyamalan his people were like
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oh he's just a crib artist so he just
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cribs from Spielberg oh he just cribs
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from Hitchcock now he cribs from all of
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them and the combination of it is
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entirely centered around his personality
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and it's why you know I feel like this
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movie worked and and is really one of
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his best is is because they're there is
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that kind of authentic feel to the
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relationship between father and son
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which oh yeah you know just getting a
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kid to perform well is one thing but
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building a decent narrative around a kid
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actor and their relationship with
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parents is entirely another and the fact
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that he accomplishes both of those is is
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utterly fantastic I just will always
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remember the paint cans for some reason
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now yeah with me for so long you just
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the those image of the paint cans
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attached to the dumbbells yep just so so
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neatly attached it with duct tape and
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that line too how much how much weight
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did you put on all of it all of it
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Elijah needs physical therapy because he
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fell down all the steps and he goes hut
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2 from right like he's in contrast yeah
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you know David's lifting 350 pounds and
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he's in a hospital and so and then he is
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in physical therapy and he chooses the
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place where Rob and right works because
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he's a crazy stalker and says oh did
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David never tell you about that whoops I
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revealed that I know who your husband is
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so she doesn't walk away at that point
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which is the part that freaks me out a
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little bit like they keep going she's a
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carer yes she is and she's also
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protective of David himself you know not
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not just her wanting to try to find a
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way to make a relationship work but she
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she knows that he is hurt and hurting
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and damaged and you know he can't just
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be taped back together again emotionally
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but I think part of it might honestly
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the character motivation at least be
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that she she wants to get as much
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information out of this guy who I mean
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what's he gonna do jump out of the chair
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and and get her a you know she she
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suddenly goes on an immediate quest of
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weight I'm gonna find out what's going
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on here and then we're going to put you
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in handcuffs and send you away yeah and
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then she realizes oh maybe this is not
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as bad of a thing or a bad thing I know
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well okay we'll figure it out this is
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also the scene where we find out more
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about why she doesn't like football
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where she's yeah um you know she's like
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you know it's the opposite of what I do
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and and isn't that a little on the nose
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because if you look in the newspaper
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clipping about the car accident her
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maiden name is inverse oh yeah is it
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really oh yeah look it up it's there and
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I was like that's easily I'll take it
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I'm okay with it Bruce Willis is bench
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pressing how many pounds boys at
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pressing how many pounds boys at
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500 less than pecans in there what a pay
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cans way but yeah what do paint cans way
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indeed like that the cotton the constant
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reference to inversions and reversals
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and and symmetry and that sort of thing
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like throughout it would it would get to
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a point where it would get to the upper
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level of my tolerance for it but by the
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end of the movie everything balanced out
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and I kind of hate him for that because
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I ended up working out so well that I
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you know I you know I really wanted it
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to bother me enough but but he earned
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enough by the end of the movie that I
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kind of was like all right all right ms
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inverso fine so our next set of scenes
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are involved Joseph the son first off
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getting in a fight at school because
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he's trying to protect somebody because
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he wants to be a hero like his dad and
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and they have a whole conversation about
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it and then yeah it's really sweet and
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so the next thing that happens is he
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gets the gun out and try and threatens
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is dead to shoot him to prove that he's
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uh that it to prove that he's a
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superhero love that scene so much also
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also david david has learned here from
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the lady at the school that he almost
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drowned and so he tells his son you know
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I didn't I'm not invulnerable we got it
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all wrong and the Sun doesn't believe it
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which is why he gets but you absolutely
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love the scene with the the Sun not only
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that one of those like armchair gripping
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means in the theater because you're like
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oh my god is he gonna shoot him what
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will happen yeah I layup and and because
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it is so well diffused with humor where
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they try all these different things to
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get him to put the gun down including
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like I thought we were becoming friends
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friends don't shoot friends do they
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Audrey no no no she don't know shooting
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shooting friends the wider
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laughing out loud about in the theater
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yeah even as I'm like sort of shaking
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and like to have my hands on the armrest
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it's a hell of a way to play out the you
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know the the archetypical son finding
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out his father is not invincible and
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immortal sort of sort of trap of you
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know coming of age and growing up is is
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you know the Sun the Sun has to learn
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that his father is not immortal and
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invulnerable by effectively threatening
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him with a gun or about to be in big
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trouble that kid is is really smart
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right i mean it is it is perfectly
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logical how do i prove that my dad is
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invulnerable because i believe it the
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answer is I'll just shoot him and it'll
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bounce off but he said and Bruce Willis
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is like keen to bet he's like it okay
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you shoot me bullet bounces off and then
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I'm out of here I'm gonna lie you
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leaving because we don't shoot people in
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this house which is just might not shoot
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friends dads are for hugging not
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shooting no my kids and I my whole
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family watch this movie last night and
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the kids I was worried that the slow
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pace was going to get them although i
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think it was ok they were they were it
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was a little slow but they were a little
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bit intrigued to and uh this scene they
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were on edge and you know and then
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there's the laughter of the release of
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tension with that friends don't you know
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shoot other friends all of that but it
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really it is an incredibly effective
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scene because what's he gonna do like a
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kid wouldn't you know normally this kid
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loves his dad why would he shoot his dad
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is because he thinks his dad is a
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superhero that's why and uh it's great
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it's a great thing and another thing
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that i love is that we we never actually
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get any kind of resolution to this we
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don't know what would happen if he got
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shot and jumping forward just a little
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bit when you get him telling mr. glass
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that this kid threatened to shoot him i
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love how samuel l jackson is so emphatic
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about I didn't say you could be you know
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could be killed like that was like he's
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you can see him it's flashing before his
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eyes oh my god this person who is is
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about to make my life have meaning
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almost perhaps got killed by his own kid
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because i overstepped a little bit it's
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the same thing I almost screw things up
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with this guy again just in a different
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way I should have made him sign a waiver
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just engaged like releasing me from
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liability like I I
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of the the connection between these two
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because you are you're you're just like
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what if he does get shot you know and
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it's like what what happened and then I
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feel like the scene where he's looking
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at the wreckage wraps that up and it's
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like it probably would have bounced off
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because that is just mangled to hell we
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get here there's two scenes where it's a
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bruce willis and Robin Wright they have
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their date she come she comes in earlier
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and and says you know can we could we
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you know i'd like to try again which is
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a big you know big moment in there
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trying to fix their their marriage and
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they have the date here which starts out
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with sort of dating things and then very
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quickly breaks apart into more details
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about their their marriage and and when
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it fell apart i I'm sorry whose favorite
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colors are rust and brown yeah yeah
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favorite color is brown I left it's the
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muted color palette just I go put on a
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plate in front of you I know beautiful
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painting behind them though so honey
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honey what's your favorite color dark
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gritty yeah yeah yeah he should have
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said right I like bright green like my
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poncho that's when I liked Pancho color
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green poncho there is a beautiful a
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beautiful picture behind them on the
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wall and a nice slow zoom yes I did take
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a take note of this particular scene
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simply because I felt like this was the
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first time that I noticed any real color
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that didn't have to do with mr. glass
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right um because it's a their first date
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he's things something is changing in his
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life even though it doesn't necessarily
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go the way he's expecting but we get
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that great mural and they're talking
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about colors just you know yes they're
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they're muted colors we haven't gotten
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that far yet but this for me was kind of
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a turning point in the movie because I
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finally saw something that visually
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stimulated me in a way that the film had
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not too much at this point so they go
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home and uh the babysitter and I want to
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just call out again I love but the
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babysitter has this one scene the
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babysitter could be completely generic
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or not in the movie but instead the
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babysitter is a funny little character
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we thanks thank me thank you telling
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she's actually she's actually my
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favorite character in no lie I swear you
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get so much from her and the best part
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is is that that she goes out in it's
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pouring rain outside when she's like oh
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great yes sir last geez but she she got
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the job in New York so there's suddenly
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extra tension in their relationship
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because what does that mean he thought
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he wouldn't get it but he got it and I
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started to think about like did they
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realize that the guy who was the sole
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survivor of the train crash was the guy
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they interviewed know like hey let's go
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that guy I guys great i security I
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started to wonder about that so and then
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the other call is on the machine and it
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is a and it's elijah right so two things
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that strike me about this one when we
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find out that david has gotten the job
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and they're talking about it Bruce
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Willis is out of focus again and it's as
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if he is once again hit like you know
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Erika just mentioned how he's something
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is changing in his life and it's as if
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that almost slips away for a moment here
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as the possibility of him leaving comes
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up again so he's kind of gone blurry
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again and then a thing that I again I
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watched this scene twice because I want
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to make sure I was hearing it correctly
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do you notice that Elijah's voice on the
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answering machine changes it goes yeah
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yes daddy key and modulated doing a
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voiceover and it does it's yes Lee and
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gradually but it's really well done then
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David goes to the train yard this is the
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this is where that happens which is he
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breaks into where the wrecked cars are
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and looks at the smashed up cars and and
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you just know it's giving him the
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realization that you know something
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there's no way he should have survived
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this thing and he flashes back to the
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car crash and in the car too much little
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too much slow-mo oh the 90s yeah so in
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look in the car crash what we see is
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that he's he has been ejected from the
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car but is fine of course and and she is
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still in the car and so he has to get
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her out so we also see an example that
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not only does he as a teenager he had
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proof that he was unbreakable but he
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rips the door off the car in order to
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get her out so there's his
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super-strength although yeah adrenaline
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makes you do things but you know we know
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now it's his super strength that is
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happening here and then we get that
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moment where the car pulls up and asked
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if he's okay and he's like thinking over
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what he's going to say
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and this is presumably the moment where
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he decides that he's going to feign an
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injury so that he never has to play
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football again and I was thinking about
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this too because you I'm a lot of times
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there are a superhero like characters
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who are teenagers and they usually come
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up with a reason why they can't be
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because like spider-man would be the
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best basketball player or football
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player or whatever at his high school
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team right because he's got powers and
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he doesn't do it what I like about what
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david dunn has in his bat past is he is
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famous for being this amazing football
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player and then the injury is what stops
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him from from you know going on and and
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maybe becoming a professional football
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player or whatever but through the now
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that we know what we know about him it's
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like well that's why he was a great
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football player is that he has he is
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strong and can't be hurt so no wonder he
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is a great football player and maybe he
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also has like you know great agility
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which we never get to see a movie
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because we he hasn't doesn't go that far
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because when Robin Wright is talking to
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him later on saying you know I never
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would have wished for that accident to
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stop you from playing football something
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to the effect of the things you could do
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were like nobody else that makes me
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think that there's more than just super
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strength like the actual abilities
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beyond that and some of it with him
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feigning the injury is also about in
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some ways not quite protecting her but
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it has obviously as we talk about later
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you know when he when Elijah mentions
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that he gave this up for a woman you
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know there is there's love there right
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like there's something he realizes that
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he can't have that and and be with her
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and there is a choice about that even
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though it doesn't go exactly as he's
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planned he talks to Elijah and Elisha
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says go where people are like this is
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where all the way in and so here we go
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we got the big big scene in with the
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pillars in the end there's some fog and
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the lights are coming down and there's a
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big clock and it we're in the train
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station and there's people buzzing
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around everywhere and this is that
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moment where he's going to use his
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powers and this is also the moment where
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the pat color palette is very clear you
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know essentially we're seeing through
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his eyes because the idea here is
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everybody's gray and washed out but the
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people who are special he bumps against
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and gets a flash of some crime they've
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committed they're all wearing distinctly
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clothing so it's it's an it's a nice you
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know it I wouldn't I wouldn't call it
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subtle but I really like it that that
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the people that he bumps into the lady
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with a red jacket and then we see her in
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a shiny red outfit stealing a was
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healing jewelry and then he bumps into
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the what he bumps into the the Gaius
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assaulting people in battle you have a
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guy wearing bright yellow yeah the
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bright yellow guy who hits hits people
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on the street and says to go back at
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this yeah and then there's the the
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rapist we see and then there's finally
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our person who were going to be
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following back to his place where he's
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committed all the murders the music in
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this scene is is I mean I got chills
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I'll oh yeah I get chills this whole
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scene is fantastic this is just the this
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is the crème de la creta siz like they
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the apex of this movie right where he's
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like he's bought in now right he is
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believing it and he stretchy he's got
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that nice shot where he he stretches out
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his hands as he's standing there yeah
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and lets the crowd wander over him and
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you're like oh he's in he's totally in
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now and Elijah has warned him that
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things are going to be messy real life
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is messy right which is important for
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later the two things I noted about the
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scene were number one the music which
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you know I'm right there with you with
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the chills the second thing it goes back
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to what we were talking about earlier
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about how this is this is a very
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realistic superhero movie we crimes that
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he sees these people committing these
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are like crimes these aren't like oh
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like we got the black masks and we're
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robbing a bank or you know like the
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typical comic book type crimes these are
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like like rape and assault and like
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major crime crime in the real world it's
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not I 5,000 pounds of whipped cream yeah
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like look it's it's exactly like elisha
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says on the phone like this this is not
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going to be like the comics my says
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david dunn could benchpress that 5,000
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pounds of whipped cream just do bake two
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big buckets how much does 5,000 pounds
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of whipped cream way 5,000 pounds Dan
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5,000 pounds nothin manly size buckets
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yeah exactly right is tape them on there
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I I have to say the whole thing this
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again I don't really like scary movies
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per se and the home invasion stuff free
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to me it's to hell super scary God these
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movies turns into a horror movie
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veritable times the flash on the guy is
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pre-war right terrifying it's so
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terrifying because again it's like it's
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your home you're supposed to be safe
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there right and this is the whole
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sequence with this as we get there is
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just eerie as hell and terrifying and
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it's so effective is so effective and
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the fact that that as he's seeing all of
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these flashes like somebody said before
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they're getting worse and worse and
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bigger and bigger yeah and the last one
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that we see actually like on the face of
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it what we see not that bad so you know
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that what happened after that had to
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have been so much worse and then as he
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gets there you find that out it's just
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yeah I felt the same way you see it's
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the not showing the explicit thing and
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letting your mind make it a thousand
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times were there is a flash of the
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father dead on the stairs right yeah
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right after that it's but yeah yeah i
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still had like i still had an inkling
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that it was it was going to be even and
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it was and it was yeah you don't get you
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don't see that exact act and so you
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still have that gap in terms of visual
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information they give you so you get to
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build that out for yourself and while
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that's happening you're also getting
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visual information as 20 but there are
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more people and we're going to take you
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on a tour of absolute abject horror
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movie sadness for a minute yeah and then
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we're gonna see what he does
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conveniently he is already wearing
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orange for a prison jumpsuit yes so
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first well as follows him with his hat
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in his poncho green poncho man is on the
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case and we follow him following the man
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so there's a Steadicam shot we go around
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a pillar and he's taken his trash can
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back to the employees only and any walks
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conveniently this is not the beginning
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of his shift and Bruce Willis doesn't
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have to stay on there for eight hours it
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is the end of his shift he's got it puts
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his messenger bag on and then and
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through this driving rainstorm on
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another shot I remembered so well just
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like him walking back and forth behind
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the glass and like again now I haven't
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seen this in 10 years I
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knew exactly how that scene plays out
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and any follow some you know in his
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poncho and that this guy is just walking
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in his in his coveralls through the rain
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Bruce Wallace follows him seize him go
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up to the front door of the house and
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then go around the side and there's this
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is the moment of okay I got to do this
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and Bruce Willis edits in the mail yep
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and Bruce Willis enters the house and
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discovers very you know very quietly he
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finds the the body of the father well
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even even before the body like he opens
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the door and it's immediately like
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there's the pile of mail yeah there's
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this garbage like the mess that there's
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like signs of a struggle it's like like
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the instant he opens the door it's
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confirmed that yep this is exactly what
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it said on the 10 yeah and and there's
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something I think what sets me most on
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edge and makes me the most anxious about
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this entire sequence is there is
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something even though this this house
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has already been invaded there is
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something transgressive about being in
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someone else's house out their
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permission up and it just it makes me
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deeply uncomfortable and anxious because
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the whole feeling is even though it's
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you feel like you're worried about
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getting caught like the whole thing even
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like though the person in this house is
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a bad guy and that's a whole extra level
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of being worried about being caught the
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fact that it said in someone else's
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house just like each of the stakes are
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so up there and it puts me on the edge
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of my seat the whole time so he goes
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upstairs and goes into the bedroom and
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then goes into the bathroom and finds
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the two girls tied up and that door
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swings open and you see again you see
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the silhouette with the hood and the
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poncho hanging down and what strikes me
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about this every time is the silence
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like they don't talk they never say
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anything they don't they don't scream
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they don't cry they say nothing and he
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he you know it's he unties them and we
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see the whole thing it's one continuous
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shot of him untying both of them and
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then he tells them to shush to be quiet
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and that and the thing about untying
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them is like up until this point he's
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very deliberate he's like walking
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through the house slowly he's taking it
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all in but when he sees them tied up and
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he starts to untie them
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it's like it's rushed and it's frantic
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and it's panic yeah and he fumbles with
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that first you know that first not
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forever like he's taking forever ala
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because because he's just like those
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fingers are going left and right and
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he's like like you you can feel the
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panic overflowing in his mind and then
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he starts to slowly take control over it
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like once he gets that first not out
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he's like okay I'm here I'm doing this
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I'm helping these people and then he
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starts to slowly get control of it again
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but just again so much is conveyed
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without a word so much is conveyed just
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by what we see and just so much subtlety
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and it's just it's wonderful yeah the
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the emotional fear that gets transferred
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to us as the audience is just absolutely
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a incalculable it it sets me on edge
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each time I've seen it and we're
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discovering all the stuff along with him
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as he's making his way through the house
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and that sense that there was there was
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just mentioned of being in someone
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else's house and how just objectively
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wrong it feels you know there is there
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is an intrusion happening even if in the
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case of our audience surrogate here
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we're doing it for the right reason and
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to do a good thing but that level of of
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it feeling wrong and then on top of that
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not knowing what's going to be through
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the next doorway or you know whether
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something's going to come through
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another doorway is like having all of
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the most tense parts of a really good
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well made slasher film thrown into one
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climactic sequence of the movie yep so
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he goes to the next room and in this is
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the master bedroom and we see this scene
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through flapping mertens curtains such a
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good shot its back to the back to the
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train seats at the very beginning
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because its frame we see one we see the
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other and I don't know I'm never sure is
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she dead in this scene already yeah
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because he motions at her to be quiet
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but she never moved she never moves i
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agree but it's creepy that he does that
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like you know there's something off
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putting an eerie about that but it's so
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beautifully shot yeah and he goes out
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onto the onto the porch but mr. orange
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jumpsuit
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comes up behind him scare shoves him
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over yeah we see him we cut back and we
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can see him through the translucent
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curtains and he comes back and pushes
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him over dropping him into the center of
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the swimming pool cover oh no water it's
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your kryptonite no and / and mr. green
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poncho man begins to fall sink into the
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it's a call back to Elijah falling down
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the stairs and the shot of him getting
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involved by the tarp is just wonderful
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even without the water factor I i found
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this so the idea of falling onto a tarp
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and then slowly like knowing that you
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are about yet go underwater and
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basically does the edges just keep
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pulling away slowly yeah that was so
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effective the the pool cover strikes me
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on so many levels as such a masterful
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choice because you know like you've got
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this you've got this person who's
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supposedly unearthed you've established
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that their weakness is water something
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that to most people and and certainly
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almost everyone in the audience is just
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like like water is fun water is like
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you'd go swimming in the pool and it's
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great you know like so how do you how do
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you convey to the audience that this
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thing that so many people you know enjoy
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and take for granted and do not see as
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any kind of real threat like how do you
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convey that that sense of dread and
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danger and destruction for this
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character in the movie and the tarp just
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does it so well because like you said
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you know he falls on that tarp and then
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he twists and it wraps around him and
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like it just Rams all of those feelings
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home that that crushing smothering
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feeling like a shroud it's like a shroud
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yeah it's like the shroud of death is
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literally being wrapped around him and
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it's like whoever like I don't know who
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thought of that like the the I'm sure it
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was M night Shyamalan who thought of it
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but like whoever thought of like the
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pool cover and the wrapping around and
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like it's such a fantastic metaphor it's
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such a fantastic visual it
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works on so many levels and it turns
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what could have been such a huge misstep
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for like water waters his his nemesis
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like know it sells it completely and
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it's like you never at one point was I
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like oh it's just water he should be
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fine right no it's like oh my god
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they've earned it yeah he is saved by
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the two girls that he saved earlier they
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pull him they give put stick like a pool
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net or something in there you'd like the
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stick of a of a pool sweep the skimmer
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skimmer exactly and yeah and and and
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that is what gets him out so they save
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him and again silently they say we've
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got to exact inverse here again right
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the reversal he saved them they save him
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he now comes up behind the orange killer
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suit guy right just as that guy came up
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before him and whereas he threw him into
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his secret weakness of water he puts him
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in his secret weakness of a headlock
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that cuts off all the oxygen yep was
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that a secret secret weakness that is
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also my secret weakens don't tell
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everybody yeah yeah I love the scene it
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is Erica will not be surprised cuz she
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knows that I I talked about this a lot I
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like the fact that it's dark and ugly
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and painful because I feel like you know
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what if you're gonna have the climax of
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your movie be that you stop a guy who
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has killed a husband and wife and
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chained and and tied up their daughters
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and is just a monster the way you do
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that is you know you should probably
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depict it as as awful as it is and not
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make it sort of easy and simple and this
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is this movie I am I am nervous the
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whole time he's in that house you're
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absolutely right it feels transgressive
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I'm worried about him when he's on that
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swimming pool cover and and in this
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moment to it's like this is his
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confrontation with the bad guy and it's
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and all he really has is his his
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invulnerability and his perseverance
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because he just has to ride it out as
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that guy is trying to not be stopped and
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and I like it because of that it's not
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easy it's not fun really but it's so
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good that it's like yes this is this is
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what you have to do to solve this
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terrible thing that happened and so we
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through it another call out to the music
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in this scene which is the other
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fantastic musical cue in this entire
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movie as it just comes up and there's
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this beautiful beautiful work by James
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Newton Howard here and the last the
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Lakota here of course is that we didn't
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know for sure about the woman strapped
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to the radiator but he unties her and
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she just flops over and we learned in
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the newspaper clipping next day that she
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is dead and so you know that that's the
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last thing we see of this great victory
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of his does it feel like a victory two
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people died who knows what happened to
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the two girls who were chained up it's
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awful right and so that the last feeling
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we'd get left with is not entirely you
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know there will be some glee in the
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morning that he's the hero but in the
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aftermath of this it's not like they're
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high fives stuff right it's just awful
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it's an awful thing he hangs the poncho
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up at home yeah I love that carries
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Robin right up the stairs in the end he
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lays down next to her and he is he is
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looking for solace he's seen some
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terrible stuff tonight right and he says
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I had a nightmare which is the thing
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that he didn't tell her before that he
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said was the point where he thought that
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they were not going to make it and and
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so he says it here so we could come some
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kind of closure of him needing that
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support and we know what he's what
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nightmare he saw he did have a nightmare
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tonight the nightmare line works on so
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many levels like it could be the
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nightmare of that night it could be the
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nightmare of the problems they've been
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having their marriage it could be the
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nightmare of the train wreck like it
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works on so many levels i'm such a
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sucker for that line yeah it could be
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the nightmare of not of his entire life
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not realizing what he was and what he
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was splitting right on yep yeah the next
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scene is the next morning this scene
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brought to you by tropicana orange juice
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by the way yeah very clear prominently
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displayed my son actually said Tropicana
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I said yep yep yep I love the sea no
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because of the you know we very
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deliberately he's drinking as an
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institution like what is happening here
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and you hear the newspaper being slid
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across the table and you see the edge of
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it and then he says you should look at
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it and he very carefully looks at it
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it's the it's the an artist a police
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sketch of pancho man
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and the hero in quotes rescues to
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children parents found dead in house so
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it's not entirely a win and his son with
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tears in his eyes looks at up up him and
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he just just a little nod the slight nod
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kills me and then it's just you were
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right up the finger silently he says you
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were right and then puts up the finger
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to be like don't know quiet cuz he's now
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got a secret identity now and that's
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like his son is the only one who's in on
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it it's just it's just a great that
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whole thing the word list things with
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the Son and the father and his son is
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crying and the tears are coming down and
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Bruce Willis do you know that credit to
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briar that is amazing piece of work with
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so very little last seen and most
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controversial uh Bruce Willis he talks
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talks we see finally again we see
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Elijah's mom I love the fact that she's
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wearing purple eyeshadow yep and there's
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purple trim on her on her clothing yeah
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it's like it's very clear at that point
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that like regardless of what has
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happened or what will happen like she is
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firmly on his side like she's complicit
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she is part of his super villain team
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and I just love that that like hammered
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home tie in with the with with that
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color choice in the same way that she
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told us that there was a surprise ending
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she now tells us you know this my son
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always told me there are two types of
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villain the soldier yes villain who
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fights with his is you know his muscles
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his muscles and the real threat the
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brilliant and evil archenemy who fights
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him with his brain yep and like there it
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is and if you know again it's laid out
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for you if you're ready for it so last
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seen it continues with in the back they
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Elijah talks to him you know sees the
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newspaper and then says we should shake
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hands which is Elijah saying I know what
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you can do so you're going to touch my
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hand now and you're going to see what I
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did and then we it is revealed in the in
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the flashes that Bruce Willis gets that
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these these horrible things that have
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happened that Elijah has cited
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previously in the movie of
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of terrible things happen looking to see
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if there was one survivor the airplane
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crashed the hotel fire are things that
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and the and the train crash that that
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starts the movie these are these are
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things that Elijah caused to happen in
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his quest to find his counterpart at the
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other end of the bell curve the
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unbreakable person to be his his nemesis
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of the breakable person and that all
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happens in the in handshake he's he's
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he's outing himself to Bruce Willis and
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saying yes now you know we are opposites
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and I am your arch nemesis but to set it
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up as though it's a congratulations are
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in order you've become a hero shake
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hands we've done this together and then
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the rug gets pulled out from under you
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it is uh I just heartbreaking and yet it
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is it is perfect and amazing because of
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course he is he has turned himself into
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a villain just to become the you know
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find the thing that he was looking for
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and find his opposite and and it is
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always perfect is for me it is the
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perfect bow tied on top of this movie I
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love this scene I love this scene so
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much and everything he says about like
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it's usually like these plaintive cries
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as Bruce Willis is walking away coming
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to terms with what he's done and the
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line that always sticks with me is like
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most of the time they're friends like
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you and me your friend and I just oh it
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gets me well it'd be good yeah classy
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like classing it in man with a thousand
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faces here a thousand faces kind of
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terminology I love the notion of
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shifting the conflict from man against
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self to man against man and flipping the
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guide into into the the opposing force
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that that dynamic is something that
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still to me works and people complained
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oh well isn't a coincidental that he's
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the one who caused the train wreck and
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that's the thing well yeah it shows that
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he mass killed a bunch of other people
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doing other stuff that's why that's in
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there that's why it's there he was just
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going to keep playing the odds until he
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came up with somebody who ended up being
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his inverse and he's just so happy about
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this and yes he is criminally insane and
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that is why he would do something like
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that well and I what I like about this
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ending is
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is that Elijah you know I think some
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people don't like this because they view
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it as a first off as a night Shyamalan
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twist where it's like well you know it
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is pretty clear where we're we're we're
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going here the details of him committing
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all these crimes are a little bit
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surprising because you kind of want to
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be on samuel l jackson side but the way
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I read it is he's he's he's a crazy
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person and he's so deep down in this
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mythology that he will do anything
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because he's committed to finding his
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opposite so it's not like the movie
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saying surprise he was a super villain
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all along from another level up if you
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look down at it he has turned himself
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into a monster because he's become so
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obsessed with this idea of the
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diametrically opposed force so I like I
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read it at that level and that's why I'm
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totally okay with it is but like it's
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not just like a comic book thing where
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there's a villain and a and a hero it's
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like Elijah's desperation to find a
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purpose in life and why he is the way he
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is leads him down this sad path and
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commits these horrible crimes because he
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believes the only way he can define
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himself is by finding his opposite
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number and so yeah he is the super
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villain in this story but he's not the
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super villain because of course there's
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a super villain he makes himself the
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super villain and he is kind of the hero
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of his own story in a villainous way but
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it's also not a surprise because as
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we've talked about since most of us
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watch this before it's earned all the
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stuff that they talked about with when
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you're watching it a second time and you
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know what's happening at the end it's
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not it's not subtle right like there's a
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lot there's nothing in there that makes
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you go like oh this comes out of left
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field no it is earned it is laid out it
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makes sense and even if it feels like
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the rug has been pulled under it for out
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from under you I think that's okay
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feeling but it works because it's earned
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solid you know like if you think about
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what Elijah's been thrown his life and
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quest and his desire to fit in to know
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what his places like it all like you can
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you can see why he did what he did and
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you can it's totally believable as
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motivation and again it goes back to the
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realism it goes back to the it's it's so
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close you can reach out and touch it
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because you can see someone going down
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with that reading of it because from the
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beginning from the first time that we
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you know we see him as an adult he's
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petulant child in a way you know just
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the way that he deals with the the guy
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who's turned it by the art and then he
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really comes off as it's just this sort
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of hopeful lost puppy kind of guy he is
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he is so grasping towards this I they
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had this idea that Bruce Willis could
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could possibly be this kind of person
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that as we said before he almost screws
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it up because he's too eager like on a
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first date and and all the way through
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he has that sort of just it's not
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overplayed so that it's obnoxious or
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annoying but it is there in his
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performance so at the end when we get
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that really plaintiff and their friends
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just like we are it is it's a perfect
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culmination to the entire performance
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that he's put together throughout this
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whole film yep he's so happy at the end
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yes like this is the end of his journey
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as he is find he is found meaning and we
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we see that big smile and it freeze
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frames and we get the text Elijah prices
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now in an institution for the criminally
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insane yeah horses yet where are you
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sensing that's where you said
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supervillains but I love that moment of
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like the juxtaposition there like he is
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finally happy because I mean and this is
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the we mentioned this earlier like the
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whole question of like Bruce Willis and
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feeling like waking up sad and feeling
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like his life is wrong and there's
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something wrong with it and he's found a
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place and a role this same day he has
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found that and Elijah's found his place
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too so he has taken that journey but in
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the end he's a crazy person who killed a
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lot of people and got convicted of three
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acts of terrorism and is in the
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institution for the criminally insane
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now but at the fact is he's smart
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there's a smile on his face at the end
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of the movie so for years now
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m night shyamalan his talking about is
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unbreakable you know it was not the big
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hit that the Sixth Sense was and then
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like signs was a big hit so I think it
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was generally thought like well that one
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was kind of a misfire I would like to
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believe that over the years it has
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become more appreciated especially you
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know as just as time has gone by and
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maybe it's become kind of a cult classic
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but shaolin's always kept thinking of it
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and has threatened from time to time and
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there's always the stories about where
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Bruce Willis's yeah I talked to him
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about it every few years and we maybe
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we'll do it some day and and that's all
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there may be some news on that but we're
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gonna say that for the very end before
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we do that I wanted to go around one
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last time and ask for overall final
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impressions of unbreakable how how did
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it how did it hold up and did you like
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it did you love it Erica you use can you
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summarize sort of where you fall on this
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I have really mixed feelings about it
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because when I think about the idea of
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this film when I think about the
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direction of it the performance is all
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of the pieces are things that I really
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like and I've enjoyed talking about it
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and breaking it down and I do think that
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this is a really good movie I just
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wasn't as entertained by it as I wanted
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to be so I think I think this is for me
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as a movie that is better sort of
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remembered that i can remember the good
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parts but but the actual sitting through
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it was not a particularly entertaining
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or pleasurable experience i mean at the
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end my very last note is it's fine like
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that's exactly what i wrote when i
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finished when i finished watching it but
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then talking about it here i can i can
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point to all of these things that I
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thought were really well done so I think
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I just won't watch it again if I'm if I
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if I feel like I need to re-experience
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this movie I'm just going to come back
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and listen to this podcast haha fair
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enough Moises in a world where we've got
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so much superhero content out there from
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TV to the movies and I consume so so
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much of that stuff re watching this
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movie 17 years later is this massive
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massive breath of fresh air as if i have
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not had this kind of fresh air in 17
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years this movie you've got him ripping
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the door off of a car in a practical
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effect that has weight
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feeling to it and doesn't doesn't feel
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silly yes it's bruce willis can
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benchpress 500 pounds and that's the
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last time I'm using the joke it has that
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level of a suspension of disbelief to it
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but it works and we've seen so many
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attempts to do grounded gritty
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street-level superheroes but honestly 17
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years ago it was m9 Shyamalan doing
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white Luke Cage and managing to pull it
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off I think it's not necessarily going
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to be the thing that people even people
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who love the movie like Jason are going
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to come back to it more than once every
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five years but it it definitely deserves
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critical reappraisal and popular
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reappraisal i love this universe I love
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this world you know I I think that um
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you know without saying anything about
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about the movie itself if people go back
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and like this movie his new movie split
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is very very good and if you have found
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yourself disenchanted with a bunch of
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his stuff of late I would urge you to
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urge you to go watch split and not talk
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to anybody about it in advance just know
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the James McAvoy is in it and it's very
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well done Justin final thoughts about
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unbreakable I adore this movie uh you
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know leg moyes has said it's a breath of
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fresh air compared to what else is out
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there right now as far as comic books
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comic book movies comic book TV shows
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the pacing the deliberateness like and
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it's just it's such a masterful piece of
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work from a technical standpoint from
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the cinematography to the fraying to the
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music to to the audio to the character
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development you know like like there are
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so many scenes in this movie that should
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be required viewing for people who are
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writing characters or people who are
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making films you know like the secretary
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and the babysitter like you you want to
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talk about character development just
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watch those two scenes like you don't
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even need the context of the movie just
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those scenes in isolation are so
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powerful and so well done and and the
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shot you know him in the hospital like I
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could go on we just talked about it all
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but it's wonderful and
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you know it's by no means flawless like
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there are parts of it that you know
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could be done better or you know could
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be edited a little bit you know
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differently but overall it's such a
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wonderful wonderful piece of work that
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it just makes me long for more variety
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and more deliberateness and more you
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know very pacing in what we have to
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choose from today that it actually
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watching it you know kind of makes me
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sad that we don't have more variety as
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far as you know everything that the film
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has to offer is just like there's
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nothing else out there like I haven't
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seen split yet but you know I'm gonna go
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watch that and I hope that you know it's
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a little it's another breath of fresh
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air or 17 years later Dan maybe I'm on
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the exact opposite end of the spectrum
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from Erica you're exactly the same
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except on the other end expect but I
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there is something deep and visceral in
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me that I love about this movie and it
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just the fact that it can evoke feelings
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in me that are are you know unconscious
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reactions like the goosebumps I think we
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all talked about in that scene in the
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train station like that's not easy that
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is not a thing that most movies can pull
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off it is exceptionally hard and it's
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something that even you know good
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filmmakers who make otherwise technical
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solid films sometimes it just doesn't
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hit you that way and it doesn't hit that
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way for everybody as we've seen but for
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me for whatever reason this movie just
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hits me right in the sweet spot and I
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and you know again I don't like you
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Jason I I have I don't watch it
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regularly I hadn't seen it a long time
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you know I I love this movie and it is
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just so well done and I think so much of
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that I guess I can lay at the feet of
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going in totally unknowing of what I was
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in for and and it is is increasingly
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hard to do that and I love a lot of the
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movies that we get today and I watched
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so many of the superhero movies that we
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get today and I enjoy many of them you
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know and this movie is not flawless as
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some spots that the needle tweaking
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there are things that are a little bit
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awkward
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but overall it is something that is so
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well done and so totally consistent
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throughout that you forgive it you
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forgive it its flaws it's so hard to
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pull that off it is so very hard to pull
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that off and and everything you know
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like Justin said from the music to every
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you know the technical aspects are well
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done you know I think Moyes had some
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great points about how this was a brush
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of breath of fresh air in terms of so
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much of what we had seen then and what
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we're seeing now but I guess it just
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comes down to me for me being something
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that I totally buy into I'm in this
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moment of the movie from almost from the
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get-go and and that is just is so hard
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to accomplish it's a rare thing and I
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agree that this deserves another look
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for people who are not didn't see it
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when it came out or don't really know
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much about it beyond m night shyamalan
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but is the movie that convinced me that
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he is a he is a very talented director
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even if he is not always making movies
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that that work for all these reasons
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this this shows the heights of what he
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could accomplish and you know any
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director should feel lucky if they
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manage to pull this off once or twice in
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their career much less anything more
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than that all right well I love it too I
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it and again every every few years I
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will watch it again and I'm reminded of
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all the reasons that I love it and
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thinking about it in terms of today's
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modern superhero movies which I would
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say you know it's I I think that that
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gap between as moist as pointed out
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diamond and Robin and the Sam Raimi's
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spider-man you could really see that as
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the gap between not really knowing what
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the hell to do with superhero movies and
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figuring it out again and I like a lot
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of those superhero movies today but they
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are all summer action tentpole movies
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with big special effects and explosions
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and things and although those are fun
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unbreakable is that it's deal it's it's
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dealing in the same ideas but from a
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very different place and without as much
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as fun as those explosions and people
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flying around our it's also fun to see
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it so grounded as it is here and and so
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you know for for many reasons it's worth
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if you haven't if you listen to this you
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haven't seen in a long time you should
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go back and watch it because I think it
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is a little hidden classic that that
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got lost because it was not the success
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that the big twist ending six cents
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movie was which was a phenomenon and
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this was not all right well that's we're
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gonna wrap it up here thank you to my
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panel dan moore and Erica ensign justin
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michael voices chui yan thank you to you
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the listener for listening to this
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episode it was fun I've been meaning to
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do this since we started the podcast
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quite frankly and we finally got to it
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it only took three hundred and forty
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some episodes but we did it and we'll be
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back next week with another one about
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some other topic who knows what until
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then thank you and goodbye
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one last note and I'm going to blow off
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the little minor spoiler horn here for
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something that is a tag at the end of
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the new movie split if you would if you
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want to go in completely blank as moist
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as I believe recommends you do yes I
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promise you you'll be so much happier
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don't listen to this last part but we
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will just say this which is split it
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turns out is related to unbreakable and
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has a cameo at the very very end by a
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character from unbreakable and split
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which has gotten good reviews and good
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box office that success suggests that
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maybe the time is ripe for M night
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Shyamalan to make that proper follow-up
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of unbreakable at last he has said that
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the the fact that split an unbreakable
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being with two different Studios is not
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an impediment to going forward with a
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full proper sequel to unbreak I believe
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he says he's writing something now so
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that's cool yeah that's good good I'm
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angry cuz I don't want to watch split
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but now i got i saw this and have got to
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I've seen this a few weeks ago I saw
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this story and I was like well what do
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they tell you I it was in a headline on
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some site and it was kind of a guy was
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like all right well check this out now
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is there reading it was like wait what
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what yeah what is happening right now I
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I don't even want I don't even want to
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spoil you dant like even though you know
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the main spoiler itself I don't want to
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spoil you on on how that is introduced
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because it's a particular aspect of
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unbreakable that I know you in
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particular love da Polly and and we'll
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even though you know the spoiler you
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will go in there you will watch split
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and this thing will happen and Dan morn
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will be sitting in a movie theater
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laughing cackling with delight so now so
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we'll just we'll just leave it at that
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we could go into more detail I don't
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think it's worth it just to say that
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there is a there is a reference that is
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made in some fashion and you see
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somebody who you might find familiar and
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that's the realization she's alicious
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tell them it's it's the secretary from
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school yeah
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babysitter the baby's all grown up
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babysitter all grown up everybody's the
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other Bader yeah she'sshe's come back uh
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you know she was off earth fighting the
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aliens from signs yeah that's right but
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not as whoa what yeah
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